Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Monday, 20 December 1999

From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Great Britian Minima 002 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Digital Camera ( was: was Explain please...now info for Les 003 "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au] Fw: Merry Christmas 004 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] strong winds in Adelaide this morning 005 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] Cool morning in Canberra 006 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] strong winds in Adelaide this morning 007 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] New pictures added and Merry Xmas 008 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] New pictures added and Merry Xmas 009 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Merry Christmas (already) 010 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Absent 011 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Cold morning in outer Melbourne 012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Cold morning in outer Melbourne 013 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Cold morning in outer Melbourne 014 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) strong winds in Adelaide this morning 015 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Great Britian Minima 016 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Powder snow 017 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Massive Storm 018 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Merry Christmas (already) 019 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Massive Storm 020 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au Low DP's 021 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Low DP's 022 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Low DP's 023 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Cyclone Tracy (was: Low DP's) 024 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Cold morning in outer Melbourne 025 "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au] Live weather details - Gold Coast / Noosa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:21:43 +0000 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Great Britian Minima Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Lindsay wrote: > Thanks Blair and to all others for the UK info. some of us would sooner have red on radar rather than powder snow - from a very cold Wallsend (55N 1-30W) - called that 'coz a certain roman guy called Mr. Hadrian built a wall here to keep the scots out - Les(UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:24:55 +0000 002 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Digital Camera ( was: was Explain please...now info for Les etc....) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ben Quinn wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Les Crossan wrote: > > > Anthony Cornelius wrote: > > > > > Les Crossan wrote: > > > > > > > My brain isn't working, of course it is. It's all this snow here numbing my > > <<<>>>> > > > not too large else you'll have holes in the roof! Get that supercell with that > > new digital video??? > > Funny you should say that! My family are planning on buying me a digital > camera for Christmas/my birthday (which are only a week or so apart).. > and i am wondering if anyone has any advice on what sort/which one to > buy? I will probably have $300 to spend. Don't buy a non - megapixel one - the market (here in uk) is flooded with loadsa digital cameras that do 640x480, get one that can do at least 800x600 or better 1024x768. These babies eat batteries so get some rechargeable ones, don't buy a camera which has non - standard batteries! Les +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au] To: "IRDX Mailing List" [irdx at MailingList.net] "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: Merry Christmas Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 01:14:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I know this isn't related to the mailing lists I'm on, but what the hell......it's Christmas!!!! John > > SANTA -- AN ENGINEER'S VIEW > > > > > > There are approximately two billion children (persons under 18) in the > > > world. However, since Santa does not visit children of Muslim, Hindu, > > > Jewish or Buddhist (except maybe in Japan) religions, this reduces the > > > workload for Christmas night to 15% of the total, or 378 million > according > > > to the population reference bureau). At an average (census) rate of 3.5 > > > children per household, that comes to 108 million homes, presuming > there > > > is at least one good child in each. Santa has about 31 hours of > Christmas > > > to work with, thanks to the different time zones and the rotation of > the > > > earth, assuming east to west (which seems logical). > > > > > > This works out to 967.7 visits per second. This is to say that for each > > > Christian household with a good child, Santa has around 1/1000 th of a > > > second to park the sleigh, hop out, jump down the chimney, fill the > > > stocking, distribute the remaining presents under the tree, eat > whatever > > > snacks have been left for him, get back up the chimney, jump into the > > > sleigh and get onto the next house. > > > > > > Assuming that each of these 108 million stops is evenly distributed > around > > > the earth (which, of course, we know to be false, but will accept for > the > > > purposes of our calculations), we are now talking about 0.78 miles per > > > household; a total trip of 75.5 million miles, not counting bathroom > stops > > > or breaks. This means Santa's sleigh is moving at 650 miles per second- > > > 3,000 times the speed of sound. > > > > > > For purposes of comparison, the fastest man-made vehicle, the Ulysses > > > space probe, moves at a pokey 27.4 miles per second, and a conventional > > > reindeer can run (at best) 15 miles per hour. > > > > > > The payload of the sleigh adds another interesting element. Assuming > that > > > each child gets nothing more than a medium sized LEGO set (two pounds), > > > the sleigh is carrying over 500 thousands tons, not counting Santa > > > himself. On land, a conventional reindeer can pull no more than 300 > > > pounds. > > > > > > Even granting that the "flying" reindeer can pull 10 times that normal > > > amount, the job can't be done with eight or even NINE of them-Santa > would > > > need 360,000 of them. This increases the payload, not counting the > weight > > > of the sleigh, another 54,000 tons, or roughly seven times the weight > of > > > the Queen Elizabeth (the ship, not the monarch). 600,000 > > > tons travelling at 650 miles per second creates enormous air resistance > - > > > this would heat up the reindeer in the same fashion as a spacecraft > > > re-entering the earth's atmosphere. > > > > > > The lead pair of reindeer would adsorb 14.3 quintillion joules of > energy > > > per second each. In short, they would burst into flames almost > > > instantaneously, exposing the reindeer behind them and creating > deafening > > > sonic booms in their wake. The entire reindeer team would be vaporised > > > within 4.26 thousandths of a second, or right about the time Santa > reached > > > the fifth house on his trip. Not that it matters, however, since Santa, > as > > > a result of accelerating from a dead stop to 650 m.p.s. in .001 > seconds, > > > would be subjected to acceleration forces of 17,000 g's. A 250 pound > Santa > > > (which seems ludicrously slim) would be pinned to the back of the > sleigh > > > by 4,315,015 pounds of force, instantly > > > crushing his bones and organs and reducing him to a quivering blob of > pink > > > goo. > > > > > > Therefore, if Santa did exist, he's dead now. > > > > > > MERRY CHRISTMAS. > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 X-Sender: astroman at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:42:33 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: strong winds in Adelaide this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I was woken up this morning at 4:00am with the sound of very strong winds, after hearing a few bits of sheet metal banging away, I decided to have a look, all seemed okay. I checked the Obs at 5:12am and the winds were 44Km/h (23.758 Knots) at Parafield Is there any way that someone on the list was able to get a maximum wind gust reading from Parafield this morning, I have a feeling that 44km/h was not the strongest. Thanks in advance. Andrew Wall State representative for S.A. and N.T. Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage. SASW - http://sastorms.virtualave.net ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Cool morning in Canberra Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:26:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

We had a minimum of 4 last night. Currently 7.7 at 7.30 with a very brisk easterly wind.

Patrick

006 X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:51:37 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: strong winds in Adelaide this morning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi all, > >I was woken up this morning at 4:00am with the sound of very strong winds, >after hearing a few bits of sheet metal banging away, I decided to have a >look, all seemed okay. > >I checked the Obs at 5:12am and the winds were 44Km/h (23.758 Knots) at >Parafield >Is there any way that someone on the list was able to get a maximum wind >gust reading from Parafield this morning, I have a feeling that 44km/h was >not the strongest. > >Thanks in advance. > > >Andrew Wall It was pretty windy here at St Peters too Andrew. A classic SE gully breeze methinks. Do these things reach Parafield with full force? Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 007 X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 07:57:26 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: New pictures added and Merry Xmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi all, > >I have added 10 more pictures to the Gallery area, you can find them >through the Gallery area (funnily enough) then click on Andrew Wall's >Gallery and your there :) I'm really glad you got pictures of that storm Andrew, I thought it was a particularly beautiful, classic pulse cell (and it was nice to stand under too :) And a Merry Christmas too all on the list. It's been a pleasure all this year. The discussion in the last week has been particulalry interesting, what with the input from Les and Leslie. So here's to huge CAPES, cold pools aloft, great shear, and the forcing mechanism from hell in Jan 2000! Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:11:29 +0000 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New pictures added and Merry Xmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Les and Leslie. > erm, which one is which? Les(UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:30:47 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas (already) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear Folks, I would also like to take the opportunity to wish all those on the list a happy and safe Christmas. I have enjoyed the various topics of discussion on the list and meetings this year. Hopefully the New Year (Millenium) will provide more opportunity to study severe weather. Best wishes Jimmy Deguara President (ASWA) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 22:56:10 +0000 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aus-wx [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Absent Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com list - Les wishes everyone on aus-wx a very merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous millenium, I'm not going 2 b here the next week, mixing it with the Irish. btw don't burn the chook on the barbie Christmas avro! Les(UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Cold morning in outer Melbourne Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:27:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all, chilly morning in Melbourne's outer eastern and Northern suburbs. Down to 4.5c here in Kilsyth, in Coldstream just out of Lilydale in the Yarra Valley it was 1c. Other cool spots, Scoresby 4c and Viewbank 5c. Currently (10.30am) it is 15c Dew Point is 6c. We are having a storm drought here in Melbourne, out last thunder day was on November 6 and that was only a few rumbles. Looking a little more promising later this week (I hope) Dane (Kilsyth) Melbourne.

012 X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:07:45 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold morning in outer Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dane Its all this talk of snow, winter and cold weather that has bought along this cold snap!, if we talk about summer we should get the storms back < Matt Smith >>>> Hi all, chilly morning in Melbourne's outer eastern and Northern suburbs. Down to 4.5c here in Kilsyth, in Coldstream just out of Lilydale in the Yarra Valley it was 1c. Other cool spots, Scoresby 4c and Viewbank 5c. Currently (10.30am) it is 15c Dew Point is 6c. We are having a storm drought here in Melbourne, out last thunder day was on November 6 and that was only a few rumbles. Looking a little more promising later this week (I hope) Dane (Kilsyth) Melbourne. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold morning in outer Melbourne To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 10:57:25 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF4AD4.D98111E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi all, chilly morning in Melbourne's outer eastern and Northern = > suburbs. Down to 4.5c here in Kilsyth, in Coldstream just out of = > Lilydale in the Yarra Valley it was 1c. Other cool spots, Scoresby 4c = > and Viewbank 5c. Currently (10.30am) it is 15c Dew Point is 6c. We are = > having a storm drought here in Melbourne, out last thunder day was on = > November 6 and that was only a few rumbles. Looking a little more = > promising later this week (I hope) Dane (Kilsyth) Melbourne.=20 A possible Australian December record has been set with -7 (rounded) at Charlottes Pass. Will confirm (or otherwise) when I get the chance. Current record is -6.7 (Kiandra, 12/12/64). Interesting pattern of temps in Melbourne - very cool in the east (as Dane mentioned - and I don't think the new Viewbank AWS is in an especially cool site - it may well have been down to 2-3 over the Yarra flats) but not in the west. Central Melbourne had 11, but Laverton had 13 and Geelong 12 - neither of which have any significant urban effects (the Geelong site is out of town). Heaps of 2s around Victoria (e.g. Horsham, Nhill, Hamilton, Latrobe Valley) and 0 at Omeo. -3 at Cooma Airport. 3 at Canberra, possibly the lowest so far into summer since 1970. Nothing below -1 in Tasmania, which surprises me a little. (Both Omeo and Cooma have been below 0 in all 12 months of the year). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: strong winds in Adelaide this morning Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:50:09 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id TAA03416 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 05:42:33 +1030, astroman wrote: >Hi all, > >I was woken up this morning at 4:00am with the sound of very strong winds, >after hearing a few bits of sheet metal banging away, I decided to have a >look, all seemed okay. > >I checked the Obs at 5:12am and the winds were 44Km/h (23.758 Knots) at >Parafield >Is there any way that someone on the list was able to get a maximum wind >gust reading from Parafield this morning, I have a feeling that 44km/h was >not the strongest. > Hi Andrew. None of the reports met the criteria for listing on my noteworthy AWS obs (i.e. wind gusts >=45 knots or 10 min average wind >=34 knots), but for the record here are the obs that met aviation SPECI criteria for Kent Town and Parafield this morning, and the preceding METAR in each case. Top wind gust for Parafield appears to have been 32 knots (59 km/h) at 4.32am CDST. >23 METAR ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0030 13015G23KT 15.2/08.0 Q1020.3 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0050 12015G26KT 15.3/08.1 Q1020.2 RF00.0/000.0 >23 METAR ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0230 12013G23KT 15.6/04.2 Q1019.6 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0246 11016G27KT 15.5/03.4 Q1019.5 RF00.0/000.0 >23 METAR ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0300 11014G21KT 15.4/03.0 Q1019.4 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0319 11015G25KT 15.2/02.7 Q1019.4 RF00.0/000.0 >23 METAR ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0330 11015G23KT 15.0/02.7 Q1019.3 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI ADRO Adelaidero 1220 0332 11015G25KT 15.0/02.4 Q1019.3 RF00.0/000.0 >23 METAR YPPF Parafield 1220 0430 11021G27KT 15.2/03.7 Q1019.0 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI YPPF Parafield 1220 0433 11021G32KT 15.1/03.9 Q1018.9 RF00.0/000.0 >23 METAR YPPF Parafield 1220 0500 11022G28KT 14.6/03.7 Q1019.2 RF00.0/000.0 >23 SPECI YPPF Parafield 1220 0502 10022G32KT 14.6/03.7 Q1019.1 RF00.0/000.0 > Info above is: Rainfall district METAR or SPECI BoM/ICAO indicator and location name Month, Day, Time (EDST) Wind dir, 10 min average and gust Dry bulb/Dew Point QNH pressure Rain (past 10 mins and since 9am local) -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather Links and News http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:11:36 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Great Britian Minima Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Les Crossan wrote: > > Lindsay wrote: > > > Thanks Blair and to all others for the UK info. > > some of us would sooner have red on radar rather than powder > snow - from a very cold Wallsend (55N 1-30W) - called that > 'coz a certain roman guy called Mr. Hadrian built a wall here > to keep the scots out - I saw an artical from CLIVAR recently that basically said "if you want to plunge Europe back into an ice-age, simply cut-off the gulf stream". It's times like these that remind people just how close the UK is to the North Pole. Better still, move the UK into the Southern Hemisphere then work out the weather. Something like Macquarie Island year-round wouldn't sustain the UK in much shape or form like the present...I'd enjoy the powder snow while it lasts and hope that it doesn't last for too long... Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 016 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Powder snow To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 12:21:11 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Feel free to describe more Michael. God I'm talking about snow in the > first month of summer! But hey, we can get some form of snow here over > most months, well not Dec/Jan/Feb I guess. The snow at Oberon last June > was definately good enough for skiing. I haven't seen snow like that > outside of the Aussie Alps before. Any body got records of snow falls at > Oberon? > Based on the phenomena reports, Oberon has an average of 15 days of snow falling per year, and has reported snow in all months except January, February and March (the most recent December fall being in 1993). No records of depth that I'm aware of. I expect Oberon would have had at least 50cm, and possibly considerably more, in the 1900 blizzard (given press reports of 120cm in the Rydal area). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au To: " - *aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Massive Storm Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 13:55:24 +0930 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id XAA29034 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. After this mornings great storm which dumped close to 20mm with heaps of lightning & thunder, we are currently getting another great storm - heaps of lightning & thunder, power is on & off.............. and it is pissin down!! This is more like it............... Paul at Darwin. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 23:43:25 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas (already) To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id XAA01431 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All: I too would like to take the opportunity to wish all those on the list a happy and safe Christmas and a great new year! This is a terrific list and I have and am enjoying getting to know all of you. Thank you all for your kindness and willingness to accept me! Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Phone: 816-373-3533 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au To: " - *aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Massive Storm Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:33:03 +0930 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id AAA04212 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. Just got a phone call re: storm - 50mm in 20 mins at my place! Not bad!! Thats after the 20mm from last night. I hope it keeps like this all wet season! Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 From: Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMA at TNPN To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:48:07 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Low DP's Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul M raised the subject of low DP's recently. After yesterday's "cold outbreak" (or should that be "mini cold outbreak"???!!!) I noticed this afternoon that there are quite a few NSW and Vic stations with DP's below 0 at the moment. A selection include (based on BOM 3pm obs): Wagga AP -4 Tibooburra AP - 7 Broken Hill AWS -6 Condoblin AWS -5 Cooma AP AWS -2 Swan Hill -3 Wangaratta -2 Surprisingly Canberra AP is plus 4 - although this is explained by the fact that we have a "moist" easterly bringing moisture in from the Tasman sea. I was surprised Canberra's DP was so high because this morning's Wagga sounding shows the DP at 1748m was -22. A westerly in Canberra today would have mixed some of that dry air down to the surface and likely given us some dew points into the minus double figures. With the coastal stations to our east showing only single figure dewpoints this afternoon, I think it will be a slow climb back before respectable moisture levels are regained sufficiently to allow the mid/end week trough to produce some nice Christmas presents.... Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 021 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low DP's To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:00:09 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > Paul M raised the subject of low DP's recently. > > After yesterday's "cold outbreak" (or should that be "mini cold outbreak"???!!!) > I noticed this afternoon that there are quite a few NSW and Vic stations with > DP's below 0 at the moment. > > A selection include (based on BOM 3pm obs): > > Wagga AP -4 > Tibooburra AP - 7 > Broken Hill AWS -6 > Condoblin AWS -5 > Cooma AP AWS -2 > Swan Hill -3 > Wangaratta -2 > > Surprisingly Canberra AP is plus 4 - although this is explained by the fact that > we have a "moist" easterly bringing moisture in from the Tasman sea. > > I was surprised Canberra's DP was so high because this morning's > Wagga sounding shows the DP at 1748m was -22. A westerly in > Canberra today would have mixed some of that dry air down to the > surface and likely given us some dew points into the minus double figures. I've never actually seen this happen - as mentioned in the previous thread, dewpoints below -20 are relatively common at the 850 hPa level (~1700m), in both radiosonde and alpine station data, but I have not seen such a dewpoint at any station below 1200m in SE Australia. > With the coastal stations to our east showing only single figure > dewpoints this afternoon, I think it will be a slow climb back before > respectable moisture levels are regained sufficiently to allow the > mid/end week trough to produce some nice Christmas presents.... This weekend looks like it has the potential to be highly interesting, particularly in Victoria. Blair Trewin > Patrick > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 022 From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au To: " - *aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low DP's Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:48:11 +0930 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id BAA11868 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >This weekend looks like it has the potential to be highly interesting, >particularly in Victoria. >Blair Trewin Please tell!!! paul. Ps - they are expecting a Tropical Low to develop near Timor within 3 days - no news yet on cyclonic development but it will be interesting.... esp with Xmas around the Corner - I can see the NT News headlines now......... "TC Tracey raised from the dead............" +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 023 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:55:48 +1100 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Tracy (was: Low DP's) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au wrote: > > > >This weekend looks like it has the potential to be highly interesting, <> > Ps - they are expecting a Tropical Low to develop near Timor within 3 days - > no news yet on cyclonic development but it will be interesting.... esp > with Xmas around the Corner - I can see the NT News headlines now......... > > "TC Tracey raised from the dead............" Speaking of Cyclone Tracy! If anyone has Optus Vision (cable TV), they are showing the movie "Cyclone Tracy" this week (from Wednesday onwards).. I love this movie! Shockingly boring weather here in SE QLD at the moment.. and it doesn't really look like it's going to get a whole lot better in the next 5 - 7 days either! There is an upper level trough forecast for us and SE Australia this week, but at the moment it looks possible that it could produce more cloud than interesting weather (in SE QLD anyway).. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 024 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:36:11 +1000 From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold morning in outer Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blair... On 24 -12-1995, Charlotte Pass was also -7 (to nearest. could you check this one out as well? Thanks Don W Blair Trewin wrote: > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF4AD4.D98111E0 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hi all, chilly morning in Melbourne's outer eastern and Northern = > > suburbs. Down to 4.5c here in Kilsyth, in Coldstream just out of = > > Lilydale in the Yarra Valley it was 1c. Other cool spots, Scoresby 4c = > > and Viewbank 5c. Currently (10.30am) it is 15c Dew Point is 6c. We are = > > having a storm drought here in Melbourne, out last thunder day was on = > > November 6 and that was only a few rumbles. Looking a little more = > > promising later this week (I hope) Dane (Kilsyth) Melbourne.=20 > A possible Australian December record has been set with -7 (rounded) > at Charlottes Pass. Will confirm (or otherwise) when I get the chance. > Current record is -6.7 (Kiandra, 12/12/64). > > Interesting pattern of temps in Melbourne - very cool in the east > (as Dane mentioned - and I don't think the new Viewbank AWS is in an > especially cool site - it may well have been down to 2-3 over the > Yarra flats) but not in the west. Central Melbourne had 11, but > Laverton had 13 and Geelong 12 - neither of which have any significant > urban effects (the Geelong site is out of town). > > Heaps of 2s around Victoria (e.g. Horsham, Nhill, Hamilton, Latrobe > Valley) and 0 at Omeo. -3 at Cooma Airport. 3 at Canberra, possibly > the lowest so far into summer since 1970. Nothing below -1 in > Tasmania, which surprises me a little. (Both Omeo and Cooma have > been below 0 in all 12 months of the year). > > Blair Trewin > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 025 From: "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Live weather details - Gold Coast / Noosa Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:13:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all,

Found this site which displays live weather details every 15 minutes from 2 sites on the Gold Coast as well as Noosa. I don't know how accurate the info is but might be better than nothing. The site is currently down due to an update with the website.

http://www.coastalwatch.com/weather/weather.htm

Regards

Greg Curtis

Brisbane