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001 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
002 Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Merry Christmas and Victorian Storms
003 Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Vic Storms
004 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu] Vic Storms (fwd)
005 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
006 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] Dec 10 Supercell Photos..
007 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
008 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
009 Pjcorlett at aol.com Merry Christmas.
010 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Merry Christmas.
011 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] cool summer
012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] forecast loop
013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
014 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Santa Update
015 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Merry Christmas.
016 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] New to aussie weather.
017 "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au] Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:12:16 +1100
018 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Fwd: A curly one ?
019 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
020 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
021 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Low off Innisfail.
022 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Merry Christmas
023 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] forecast loop
024 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Fwd: A curly one ?
025 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Low off Innisfail.
026 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Weak monsoonal trough
027 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] New to aussie weather.
028 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Low off Innisfail.
029 "Desley, Brian" [Mystyle at bigpond.com.au] Tropical low in Coral Sea.
030 "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au] Fwd: A curly one ?
031 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Tropical low in Coral Sea.
032 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
033 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] cool summer
034 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Plot ASWA members locations on map
035 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
036 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] cool summer
037 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] hristmas day chase
038 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
039 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
040 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Heatwave expected in Perth
041 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Christmas wishes
042 "Halden Boyd" [haldenboyd at hotmail.com] Hey Desley....and Merry Xmas Weatherites
043 "Halden Boyd" [haldenboyd at hotmail.com] New to aussie weather.
044 "James Pickett" [juxie_69 at hotmail.com] Plot ASWA members locations on map
045 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] ASWA cracks another milestone
046 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
047 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Best Wishes From the Mayo family
048 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] hristmas day chase
049 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Todays Sydney Situation...
050 "weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] Heavy Rain in Penrith
051 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] BOM Models
052 "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au] Mery Christmas
053 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Location Map
054 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Heavy Rain in Blaxland
055 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Merry Christmas
056 Jonty Hall [jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au] Merry x-mas
057 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] This and that, and a bit more :)
058 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Overshooting the EL
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001
From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:07:25 +1000
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Hi Harald,
Something like this perhaps...
http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/STM2211.jpg
John.
>snip
In terms of updraughts getting sheared apart, a
healthy updraught is "stiff" enough to withstand even
strong shear. The jet might just think that it is
flowing around a weird, tall, slim mountain that wasn't there
the day before.
Cheers, Harald
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:40:28 +1100
From: Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]
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Nick,
The storms were north of Broadford. I was heading to Melbourne, and took
pics hanging out the car window!!!!!!!!!! Please give me more info, as the
storms looked excellent! My email is pmatters at eck.net.au
Cheers, Peter (Didjman)
Nick Sykes wrote:
> I would firstly like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New
> Year. Let's hope everyone gets there wish of a sweet supercell :) I know
> it's my wish!!!!
>
> Looking mighty fine for the coming days for Victoria. Some ripper storms
> developed on the ranges this afternoon after the low cloud clear. I was
> kicking myself for not having a camera, one of my new years resolutions, to
> buy a camera. Theses storms went red on the Melbourne local radar.
>
> Moisture is continuing to be feed in from the east as the trough deepens
> from inland Australia. Humidity levels are already high for this part of the
> world and are expected to get higher. And with the trough deepening and
> plenty of daytime heating I'm expecting some beauty storms. My only fear is
> a rain situation may develop, but I wont think that, it's Christmas after
> all. If it does rain the Boxing day test is looking dodgy with not a fine
> day forecast for Melbourne in the outlook period ):
>
> Well, I'll be in Kerang over Chrissie therefore Melbourne will get great
> storms, it happened last year.
>
> Good Storms all
>
> Nick Sykes
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:48:55 +1100
From: Peter Matters [pmatters at eck.net.au]
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Hi all,
Peter here! The storms on the afternoon of the 23/12 built up in a
line running nw-se. I took pics hanging out the car window as we were driving
to Melb (my wife was driving). I said to my wife that I would be surprised if
golf ball hail was reported! When I get the pics developed, I will post them
to Jane for the MSC site.
If anyone saved radar loops, please let me know!
Thanks, and compliments of the season to all!
Cheers, Peter(Didjman)
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From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: aus-wx: Vic Storms (fwd)
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 15:23:00 +0000 (GMT)
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Hi Peter and all,
The 23 Dec. 11pm LT Melbourne sounding looks ... different.
Very deep easterly shear, but also very weak easterly shear.
There is a modest and shallow (~ 100mb) moisture supply
of about 8 g/kg in the lowest level. With the above-BL
profile frozen surface temps below 30 C should kick off
convection of the deeper moist persuasion.
The lapse rates up to mid-levels are a fair bit steeper than moist adiabatic -
that's nice. However, the shear at 11pm is horrible and
should lead to pulsing cells that might grow quickly, but
have little chance of organisation.
The +12 Meso Laps produces no precip. in Victoria
by midday on the 24th, and only some minor precip. by
night time in northern Vic.
Larger-scale support for lifting
might be limited to regions further north, it seems, as
the trough hangs out up there.
Good Luck, Harald
----- Forwarded message from Peter Matters -----
Hi all,
Peter here! The storms on the afternoon of the 23/12 built up in a
line running nw-se. I took pics hanging out the car window as we were driving
to Melb (my wife was driving). I said to my wife that I would be surprised if
golf ball hail was reported! When I get the pics developed, I will post them
to Jane for the MSC site.
If anyone saved radar loops, please let me know!
Thanks, and compliments of the season to all!
Cheers, Peter(Didjman)
----- End of forwarded message from Peter Matters -----
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:35:27 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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John, Harald, and all:
> Something like this perhaps...
>
> http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/STM2211.jpg
>
> John.
> >snip
> In terms of updraughts getting sheared apart, a
> healthy updraught is "stiff" enough to withstand even
> strong shear. The jet might just think that it is
> flowing around a weird, tall, slim mountain that wasn't there
> the day before.
Yes!! Great example!! I love that.........this was such a good example I
had to comment! I wish we would have had this photo when I was writing
papers that dealt with obstacle flow!
Les
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell Photos..
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:40:21 +1000
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Hi All,
A couple of photos and some explanation at below URL:
http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/Dec10Supercell.htm
Enjoy. (Might be a bit slow to load the pics, but worth the wait)
John.
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 02:03:38 +1000
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Hi Les,
Kind words, Tx. Actually on the Dec 10 Supercell photo 2, you can just see
a wisp of S/SW jet stream cloud curving around the anvil. I have another
photo which appears to show that this massive storm actually caused the jet
to bend around it.
Regards,
John.
>snip
Yes!! Great example!! I love that.........this was such a good example I
had to comment! I wish we would have had this photo when I was writing
papers that dealt with obstacle flow!
Les
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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Nice pick John. Reminded me of the following.
Or perhaps this one, supercell??? No person from the BoM tells you in Sydney
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121
9jd20.jpg
Unfortunately, I am guessing that the high cloud in this one lead me to
believe there was a good jet aloft. A squall line and severe storms had
moved through earlier. I think there was large hail reported in the squall
line and also an advice was put for large hailstones and the works for this
one.
Note that this is not back shearing but just a cloud band as in the next
photo taken right next to it.
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121
9jd21.jpg
and while I am at it, what do people think of this one...
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121
9jd20.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121
9jd19.jpg
Sorry about that. I just love the storms and John started me with his great
pick. John, chainsaw that tree.
Jimmy Deguara
At 23:07 23/12/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Harald,
>
>Something like this perhaps...
>
>http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/STM2211.jpg
>
>John.
> >snip
> In terms of updraughts getting sheared apart, a
>healthy updraught is "stiff" enough to withstand even
>strong shear. The jet might just think that it is
>flowing around a weird, tall, slim mountain that wasn't there
>the day before.
>
>Cheers, Harald
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From: Pjcorlett at aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:02:06 EST
Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas.
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Hi all,
My best wishes to everyone on the list for a happy and safe
Christmas. Reading your contributions has been a pleasure as much as it has
improved my understanding of the weather. I'm honoured to be part of such a
multi-talented group of people as you guys, so keep safe and I hope to see
you all under a storm in the very near future.
Cheers,
Pete Corlett.
Melbourne.
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:22:58 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,
I too would like to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Stormy New
Year!!
Pjcorlett at aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> My best wishes to everyone on the list for a happy and safe
> Christmas. Reading your contributions has been a pleasure as much as it has
> improved my understanding of the weather. I'm honoured to be part of such a
> multi-talented group of people as you guys, so keep safe and I hope to see
> you all under a storm in the very near future.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete Corlett.
> Melbourne.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:03:49 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Yeah, up here too, we've been basically around the 13-18 most days.
Makes it hard to do my laps.
Lindsay P.
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> Well actually it has been a very cool summer here in the Illawarra ( South
> Coast , NSW ), we are struggling to reach 23C on most days, and at night a
> blanket is still nice.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
> > Here in Missouri the temp is down to -11 C and still dropping. Still have
> > some snow on the ground. But with the wind it is bitter! Enjoy your
> > warmth! [S]
> >
> > Les
> >
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:01:06 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Sounds good to me Leslie, currently around 13 c here in the mountains,
got to 15 or so today (thursday).
Lindsay Pearce.
Leslie R. Lemon wrote:
>
> Here in Missouri the temp is down to -11 C and still dropping. Still have
> some snow on the ground. But with the wind it is bitter! Enjoy your
> warmth! [S]
>
> Les
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:20:15 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
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Thats amazing Blair, keep as posted.
Lindsay Pearce
Blair Trewin wrote:
>
> As a change from Australian weather, there has been an extraordinary
> burst of warmth, for mid-winter, in much of Alaska, thanks to a
> depression tracking over southern Alaska (well north of its usual track
> for this time of year) and very mild air of tropical origin being
> advected north on its eastern flank.
>
> Temperatures as high as 16 C have been reported in the interior (and
> in the middle of the night at that - not that the time makes a lot
> of difference, as this region only has a few hours of daylight at
> this time of year). Fairbanks has been a typical example; after
> reaching -15 for the first time since November 21 yesterday (a spell
> which included a low of -39 on Sunday), it rose further to +7 today.
> This is not a record for Fairbanks, which has reached +12 in December
> before, but it's still an impressive departure from normal (which at
> this time of year means maxima around -18 and minima around -28).
>
> Also spectacular have been the rates of snowmelt, with reports of
> snow cover of 30cm melting totally in the space of 6 hours.
> In some places snow has been melting so rapidly that it has been
> flooding buildings.
>
> Blair Trewin
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Hi All.
This came off another list.
Regards,
Carl.
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> NOUS42 KWNO 231647
> SPECIAL NCEP DISCUSSION
> CENTRAL OPERATIONS/NCEP/NWS/WASHINGTON DC
> 1620Z UTC THU DEC 23 1999
>
> 231620Z...THE NCEP 12Z CYCLE ETA HAS COMPLETED. THE NGM HAS
> COMPLETED HOUR 48 ANF MOS FOUS JOBS ARE RUNNING. THE AVN IS
> COMPLETING HOUR 84 PRODUCTION. NCEP 12Z CYCLE RUC2S HAVE
> COMPLETED THROUGH 15Z AND 16Z WILL SOON BEGIN. THE FIRST
> WAVE MODEL IOS RUNNING. THE SECOND WILL START WHEN AVN
> PRODUCTION COMPLETES. REINDEER WARMUPS AND TIME TRIALS HAVE
> BEEN VERY PROMISING THIS MORNING AND EVERY REINDEER..
> FROM RUDOLPH THROUGH BLITZEN..SWEARS HE IS Y2K COMPLIANT.
> SANTA PLANS TO BACKUP THIS DELIVERY SYSTEM WITH ONLINE E-TAIL
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> QUITE CAPABLE OF BOTH HIGH AND LOW LEVEL BOMBING GUIDED BY THE
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas.
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:30:49 +0930
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Merry Christmas to everyone out there. I hope you have a prosperous New Year
and that 2000 is a year of dreams coming true for you.
Also you may take a minute for those who have suffered devastation at the hands
of weather lately - Venezuela, Sth Africa, Vietnam and the Anniversary of
Cyclone Tracey. May we strive in ourselves and as part of ASWA to advance the
science of weather so that less lives will be lost - and more able to
appreciate the beauty of what is one of the most complex and entertaining of
earths events.
Paul.
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: New to aussie weather.
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:04:13 +1100
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Welcome James,
you've come to the right place, but you've already guessed that
Airlie Beach - we just have to do a 'field trip' up your way
sometime!!!!!
BTW, would anyone (with some spare time) like to plot the locations of all
of the ASWA members / aussie-weather members on a map - that could be
really, really interesting!!!!
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
----- Original Message -----
From: James Pickett [juxie_69 at hotmail.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Thursday, 23 December 1999 11:02
Subject: aus-wx: New to aussie weather.
> Sorry guys,
> I figured that it would be a much better idea if i introduced myself
> first.
> Well, Originally from Sydney, and a member of Amos and soon to be
ASWA,
> i had my sights set on Queenslands Whitsundays. It just so happens that i
am
> there now, Airlie Beach infact. Work reasons of course, not weather
> related(yeah right!).
> Anyway, I have a very strong interest in the weather and have done so
> for many years. Although only 20 i can recall quite a few weather events,
> particularly in the Sydney region and could sit at a computer for hours
> monitoring anything with the word weather written on it. A weathernut?
> "yes", and having only joined the list today i am thrilled to see that i
am
> not the only one and that there is just so much we can all talk about.
> I hope to get to know you all and once again wish each and everyone of
> you a Merry Christmas and exciting new century in weather.
> Cheers.
> James Pickett.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:21:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:12:16 +1100
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Greetings List,
Just want to wish everyone a verry merry Christmas
and a happy and safe New Year.
Hope Santa Claus is good to everyone
:))
Max
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: A curly one ?
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Can anyone especially the guys take this one on.
Jimmy Deguara
>Delivered-To: jdeguara at j.pop.ihug.com.au
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>To:
>Subject: A curly one ?
>Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:56:19 +1000
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>
>Hello Jimmy ,
> I notice someone else had posted this question on
> your site some time ago - but I still can't find an answer anywhere (
> and it's starting to mess with my mind !! ). Do you know ; or have any
> idea how I can find out ; what the weather indicating lights on top of
> the MLC building in Brisbane mean ?? I've asked numerous people in
> Briz-Vegas , but have been given conflicting stories !
> Any help at all would be appreciated ! ( A conclusive statement
> detailing exactly what they mean would be even better ! ).
>
> Thanks for your time ,
> Chris Roylance
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:37:38 +1100 (EST)
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>
> Thats amazing Blair, keep as posted.
>
> Lindsay Pearce
>
Over as quickly as it started as the cold front moved through, turning
winds back around to the west. Fairbanks is currently reporting
blowing snow and -16, although Whitehorse in the Yukon is still at +7.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:40:10 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: An extraordinary burst of warmth in Alaska
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There has been a high amplitude ridge up into the gulf of Alaska and the
west coasts of the US and Canada. Short waves go up over the ridge and
pull warm air northward into Alaska. They then dive southeastward and are
helping to carve out a vigorous trough over the US which brings Arctic air
southward. Nice pattern. But for this week it is beginning to abate for a
short period as the trough shifts eastward and the ridge flattens. The
trough is forecast to once again retrograde and the ridge will once again
amplify.
Les
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Subject: aus-wx: Low off Innisfail.
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Hi All.
Queensland BoM TC Outlook yesterday flagged moderate possibility of the
first Qld TC developing over the next 3-4 days off Nth Qld.
BoM on the ABC Bris. radio just now - a weak low has developed off
Innisfail in a burst of monsoonal activity over the last 24 hrs - so
Christmas Day and beyond may be a bit damp along the Queensland coast.
Regards,
Carl.
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Carl Smith.
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
carls at ace-net.com.au
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Hi All.
Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
I also echo Paul Mossman:
>Also you may take a minute for those who have suffered devastation at the
>hands
>of weather lately - Venezuela, Sth Africa, Vietnam and the Anniversary of
>Cyclone Tracey. May we strive in ourselves and as part of ASWA to advance the
>science of weather so that less lives will be lost - and more able to
>appreciate the beauty of what is one of the most complex and entertaining of
>earths events.
Regards,
Carl.
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Carl Smith.
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
carls at ace-net.com.au
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:47:45 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: forecast loop
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Temp has stayed on the order of -4 and colder here. Still below freezing.
Les
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:59:11 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Chris and aussie-weather list
Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> Can anyone especially the guys take this one on.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
The lights indicate as follows:
Top 5 lights = temperature
Bottom 5 lights = weather forecast
If - the top 5 lights are:
Steady = no change
Falling = cooler
Rising = warmer
If the bottom 5 lights are:
White and steady = Fine
White and 1/2 second flashes = windy
White and 2 second flashes = clearing
Red and steady = rain
Red and 1/2 second flashes = strong winds and rain
Red and 2 second flashes = showers
The forecasts are changed by remote control by the BoM in their office,
they're updated at 6am, midday, 4:30pm and 10pm.
Hope this helps you Chris.
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low off Innisfail.
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:30:35 +0930
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Yes I noticed that - also have a look at the rainfall figures for there
yesterday - Innisfail had 124mm between 9am - 3pm - and probably alot more over
night.
Paul.
carls at ace-net.com.au at world.std.com on 24/12/99 09:28:40 AM
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Hi All.
Queensland BoM TC Outlook yesterday flagged moderate possibility of the
first Qld TC developing over the next 3-4 days off Nth Qld.
BoM on the ABC Bris. radio just now - a weak low has developed off
Innisfail in a burst of monsoonal activity over the last 24 hrs - so
Christmas Day and beyond may be a bit damp along the Queensland coast.
Regards,
Carl.
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Weak monsoonal trough
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:34:40 +0930
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Howdy all.
Weak monsoonal trough setting in here - heavy showers on & off this morning as
a gusty line swept through leaving me soaked as I was getting to work :-(
More predicted for tomorrow - seems its gunna be a wet xmas!
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:09:12 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
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Great idea, Jane!!
> BTW, would anyone (with some spare time) like to plot the locations of
all
> of the ASWA members / aussie-weather members on a map - that could be
> really, really interesting!!!!
Les (US)
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low off Innisfail.
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>
> Hi All.
>
> Queensland BoM TC Outlook yesterday flagged moderate possibility of the
> first Qld TC developing over the next 3-4 days off Nth Qld.
>
> BoM on the ABC Bris. radio just now - a weak low has developed off
> Innisfail in a burst of monsoonal activity over the last 24 hrs - so
> Christmas Day and beyond may be a bit damp along the Queensland coast.
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
298mm at Innisfail and 275 at South Johnstone in the 24 hours to 0900,
plus a smattering of other reports in the 100s along the tropical
coast.
Also some activity right through tropical inland Queensland (103 at
Croydon, 70 at Urandangie, 62 at Longreach).
Unfortunately Bellenden Ker doesn't report in real time - I wouldn't
be surprised if it's close to 500.
There are flood warnings in effect for the Johnstone and Tully Rivers.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:39:37 +1000
From: "Desley, Brian" [Mystyle at bigpond.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical low in Coral Sea.
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Hi Everyone,
I am also very new to this mailing list!!...my thoroughly 'amateur' status re
weather phenomenon becomes more and more evident with each day...most demoralising
really!! lol......
Update on the Coral Sea low - we too are most interested in anything in TC
development anywhere in the top end - a couple of good storms like you guys
experience 'regularly' in the Deep South would also be really
cool....however.....Innisfail and Babinda each recorded in excess of 300mm
overnight last night!! Cairns is humid and overcast but only around 25mm overnight
in our area - flood warnings have been issued in the Tully area with possible road
closures on high tide today and tomorrow...more heavy rain expected in the general
area tonight...and maybe a storm .... with much luck....
Merry Xmas to all....and I look forward to learning heaps in the new year...my
family have actually conceded that I am not some isolated weather freak and that
there are more 'wacky weather' people around - now that I actually have proof!!
lol
Desley
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> It's interesting that some of the computer models are picking this up -
> but I personally don't hold high hopes for good TC development - not too
> far south anyway :-(
>
> The jetstream (although only 50-70kn), will sit over QLD early next
> week, and gradually edging into the southern and central Coral Sea.
> However, in the northern area of the Coral Sea - shear should be weak
> enough to support TC development - it just depends on where it'll
> form/want to form - and where it moves. Unfortunately, most TC's want
> to move poleward.
>
> James Pickett wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all,
> > Only new to this freaky weather mailing list! At current i am extremely
> > interested in any further developments with the small disturbance in the
> > coral sea. As i am sure you are all aware, weather patterns up here in
> > central Queensland have been extremely boring, i have almost forgotten what
> > a cumulonimbus cloud looks like.
> > At present some models are predicting a tropical low in the north
> > western coral sea within 72 hours, they say that there is a low to moderate
> > chance of it developing further. It would be of great interest if anyone
> > could shed some light on this matter.
> > Thanks and Merry Xmas.
> > James (Whitsundays).
> >
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> (ASWA)
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> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
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From: "Greg Curtis" [curtisg at ecn.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: A curly one ?
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:29:10 +1000
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I have these details re the MLC Lights in Brisbane
Top half of the beacon refers to temperature forecast
Bottom half refers to weather forecast
Lights steady = no change
Lights falling = cooler
Lights rising = warmer
Steady = fine
1/2 sec flash = windy
2 sec flash = clearing
Red lights
Steady = rain
1/2 sec flash strong wind and rain
2 sec flash = showers
As I write this the top white lights are steady while the bottom red lights
are 2 sec flashing red. Showers with no change!
Hope this sheds some light on the matter (pun intended)
Merry Xmas
Greg Curtis
Brisbane
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Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: A curly one ?
> Can anyone especially the guys take this one on.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> >Delivered-To: jdeguara at j.pop.ihug.com.au
> >From: "Sherpa Boy"
> >To:
> >Subject: A curly one ?
> >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:56:19 +1000
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> >
> >Hello Jimmy ,
> > I notice someone else had posted this question on
> > your site some time ago - but I still can't find an answer anywhere
> > and it's starting to mess with my mind !! ). Do you know ; or have any
> > idea how I can find out ; what the weather indicating lights on top of
> > the MLC building in Brisbane mean ?? I've asked numerous people in
> > Briz-Vegas , but have been given conflicting stories !
> > Any help at all would be appreciated ! ( A conclusive statement
> > detailing exactly what they mean would be even better ! ).
> >
> > Thanks for your time ,
> > Chris Roylance
> >
>
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tropical low in Coral Sea.
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Eelcome Densley!! & Welcome James!! Yes you will find more wacky people here in
the nest of weather compulsives!!
:-)
Paul at Darwin.
Mystyle at bigpond.com.au at world.std.com on 24/12/99 10:07:53 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I am also very new to this mailing list!!...my thoroughly 'amateur' status re
weather phenomenon becomes more and more evident with each day...most
demoralising really!! lol......
Update on the Coral Sea low - we too are most interested in anything in TC
development anywhere in the top end - a couple of good storms like you guys
experience 'regularly' in the Deep South would also be really
cool....however.....Innisfail and Babinda each recorded in excess of 300mm
overnight last night!! Cairns is humid and overcast but only around 25mm
overnight in our area - flood warnings have been issued in the Tully area with
possible road closures on high tide today and tomorrow...more heavy rain
expected in the general area tonight...and maybe a storm .... with much
luck....
Merry Xmas to all....and I look forward to learning heaps in the new year...my
family have actually conceded that I am not some isolated weather freak and that
there are more 'wacky weather' people around - now that I actually have proof!!
lol
Desley
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> It's interesting that some of the computer models are picking this up -
> but I personally don't hold high hopes for good TC development - not too
> far south anyway :-(
>
> The jetstream (although only 50-70kn), will sit over QLD early next
> week, and gradually edging into the southern and central Coral Sea.
> However, in the northern area of the Coral Sea - shear should be weak
> enough to support TC development - it just depends on where it'll
> form/want to form - and where it moves. Unfortunately, most TC's want
> to move poleward.
>
> James Pickett wrote:
> >
> > Hi to all,
> > Only new to this freaky weather mailing list! At current i am extremely
> > interested in any further developments with the small disturbance in the
> > coral sea. As i am sure you are all aware, weather patterns up here in
> > central Queensland have been extremely boring, i have almost forgotten what
> > a cumulonimbus cloud looks like.
> > At present some models are predicting a tropical low in the north
> > western coral sea within 72 hours, they say that there is a low to moderate
> > chance of it developing further. It would be of great interest if anyone
> > could shed some light on this matter.
> > Thanks and Merry Xmas.
> > James (Whitsundays).
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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Hi Jimmy,
Yes I would say that your 1997/1219jd20.jpg is much more conventionally
supercellular in structure than our Dec 10 event. STM2211 was a relatively
small storm which occurred on a weak SE change that pushed up from the Gold
Coast late in the day. I have an entire sequence of photos of the system
over a 2 hour period, not all obscured by trees. At some stage I will put
the whole sequence up on a web page.
The trees are a problem, but what do yo do when you have two conflicting
passions (i.e., weather & rainforests). sigh.
John.
>snip
Or perhaps this one, supercell??? No person from the BoM tells you in Sydney
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Yes and it continues to be cool here in Brisbane. For the last week now,
mins have been sitting around the mid teens, and max's struggling to get to
mid-twenties ( at Mt. Crosby). Very untypical for December in Brisbane. The
comparison with last December is stark, where there were only a handful of
days under 30C. Will be interesting to compare the averages at the end of
the month.
John.
>snip
Yeah, up here too, we've been basically around the 13-18 most days.
Makes it hard to do my laps.
Lindsay P.
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> Well actually it has been a very cool summer here in the Illawarra ( South
> Coast , NSW ), we are struggling to reach 23C on most days, and at night a
> blanket is still nice.
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Plot ASWA members locations on map
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Date: Friday, 24 December 1999 9:21 AM
>
>BTW, would anyone (with some spare time) like to plot the locations of all
>of the ASWA members / aussie-weather members on a map - that could be
>really, really interesting!!!!
>
Can do Jane and All
Just send me your co-ordinates - privately preferably, so as not to clutter
up the list !
Bill,
Proserpine - next door to James at Airlie.
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 21:20:19 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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All:
Was this a supercell? Not much here that is very indicative to me, at
least. By the appearance of the anvil edge......sharp and well
defined...it at least does suggest that it might have been. But that is a
very weak indication.
> Or perhaps this one, supercell??? No person from the BoM tells you in
Sydney
>
>
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/12
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> 9jd20.jpg
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: cool summer
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> Yes and it continues to be cool here in Brisbane. For the last week now,
> mins have been sitting around the mid teens, and max's struggling to get to
> mid-twenties ( at Mt. Crosby). Very untypical for December in Brisbane. The
> comparison with last December is stark, where there were only a handful of
> days under 30C. Will be interesting to compare the averages at the end of
> the month.
>
> John.
>
The Brisbane mean max for December is currently running at 26.2. The
current record for Brisbane Airport is 27.3, which should be broken
with a bit to spare (with maxima forecast to stay in the 26-27 range
for the next four days). The record for any Brisbane site is 26.4 at
the old Regional Office site in 1942.
The largest anomalies, barring a significant change in the next few
days, are likely to be in interior Queensland (Longreach, for example
, is currently running 4.5 degrees below normal for the month), and
perhaps Giles again. (Giles has not yet reached 40 this spring/summer).
By the eyeball method on the Australia-wide maps I'd estimate the
Australian mean maximum temperature for December is running 1.5 +/-
0.3 degrees below normal for the month so far, with minima near normal
(thanks to a warm first week). The Australian mean temperature for
the year will still come in above the 1961-90 average, probably by
about 0.2-0.3 degrees, but will be nowhere near as warm as it was
looking like it might be two months ago, and will struggle to make the
top ten warmest years on record.
Blair Trewin
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Upper level cold pool moving over tomorrow. Things are already looking
good in Adelaide with lots of big Cu pooping off to the north and east.
That means I dispense with my Chrissie day/rellies responsibilities by
2.00pm and hit ze road.
Hell - I know where my priorities lie!
Good luck to anyone else who makes a similar 'lame excuse' to get out of a
second helping of pudding!
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Hi Leslie, I don't know if it is or not. All I can say that it exploded
after the squall line had gone through. It is located around 50km south of
my point of the photo. You cannot see the base even though there is no
hills in the way but can see the lower clouds which are smaller cumulus
probably around the storm or within kilometres of it.
I don't have radar scans or anything else you can use to determine from it
but it developed rather rapidly. For interests sake it was not to far from
the area where the Sydney supercell hailstorm hit but came from the W-SW.
What do you think it is then. It did not seem to be creating more cells on
its side. Perhaps more development on its rear flank??
You may notice it went straight through the higher level cloud which I
would take to be a thick cirrostratus layer
What are your thoughts or others on the list? I ask these questions as I
have already determined that some I had suspected may be supercells were
supercells.
Jimmy Deguara
At 21:20 23/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>All:
>
>Was this a supercell? Not much here that is very indicative to me, at
>least. By the appearance of the anvil edge......sharp and well
>defined...it at least does suggest that it might have been. But that is a
>very weak indication.
>
> > Or perhaps this one, supercell??? No person from the BoM tells you in
>Sydney
> >
> >
>http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/12
>1
> > 9jd20.jpg
>
>Les (US)
>
>
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Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:54:28 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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Jimmy:
Was the storm severe? Did it produce hail? If so, how large was the hail?
How long was the swath or swathes of hail?
Visually it does show (to me, at least) distinctive multicellular traits.
That does not necessarily eliminate the storm as supercellular. Supercell
storms can be and often do have smaller cells within the storm "complex".
But the canopy of cloud the storm is penetrating is an anvil from this
storm itself or another nearby. If I was out from under the cloud canopy
it would be far easier to tell. Either that or near the cloud base. At
this point in time I would call it an organized ordinary (multicellular)
storm. If the storm was associated with hail equal to or greater than 5
cm, it would almost certainly be a supercellular storm. About the largest
hail an ordinary multicellular severe storm produces is about 4 cm.
Just my take on the storm.
Les
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Most models I have seen forecast a long heatwave for Perth and the lower
west coast for at least the next week. The west coast trough has been
pretty much sitting near the coast for about a week already, giving us
temps over 32C for the past week except for 2 days when the trough was
slightly inland.
Perth City maximum temperatures:
17/12 32.2C
18/12 34.5C
19/12 32.2C
20/12 29.7C
21/12 36.0C
22/12 39.6C
23/12 27.7C
Currently today (24/12) its 35.7C at 12:35pm WST.
With the trough expected to stay off the coast for the next week, heatwave
conditions, with temps in the mid to high 30s are forecast.
FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 11:20am WST on Friday the 24th of December 1999 for the remainder of
today and Saturday
FORECAST:
Fine and hot. Easterly winds, fresh in the morning and an afternoon seabreezes.
TODAY'S TEMPERATURE: Maximum: 36
TOMORROW'S TEMPERATURES: Minimum: 19 Maximum: 35
TODAY'S UV INDEX: 14 [EXTREME]
TODAY'S FIRE DANGER: Coastal Plain: HIGH
Hills: HIGH
The overnight minimum was 18.7 at 03:03 hours
With a high pressure ridge persisting south of the state and a trough lying
near
the west coast fine and hot weather is expected for the next week. Maxima
should
be in the mid to high 30's.
MEDIUM RANGE FORECAST FOR PERTH FOR:
Sunday : Fine. Min: 20 Max: 36
Monday : Fine. Min: 20 Max: 36
Tuesday : Fine. Min: 20 Max: 37
TREND FOR WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY and FRIDAY:
Fine and hot. Max temps: high 30's.
Jacob
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Christmas wishes
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As the (non-operational) bits of the Bureau empty out, best wishes
for the season to everyone on the list. I'd always suspected, coming
from that sort of background myself, that there were a lot of
enthusiasts out there, and the last 18 months have more than
confirmed it.
Those of us in Victoria are likely to see a fair bit of interest in
the next couple of days - hopefully not too much interest, as I want
to see some cricket! (I've just been in touch with the senior
forecaster on duty in the Victorian regional office - who had just
finished a conversation with a subcontinental bookmaker - I didn't
ask him whether he'd asked for $5000 for the advice!).
Blair Trewin
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Welcome on board Desley!!
To all of my aus-wx buddies a very merry xmas ho ho
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Welcome James!!
Halden Boyd Evans Head
>From: "James Pickett"
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>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:02:30 GMT
>
>Sorry guys,
> I figured that it would be a much better idea if i introduced myself
>first.
> Well, Originally from Sydney, and a member of Amos and soon to be
>ASWA,
>i had my sights set on Queenslands Whitsundays. It just so happens that i
>am
>there now, Airlie Beach infact. Work reasons of course, not weather
>related(yeah right!).
> Anyway, I have a very strong interest in the weather and have done so
>for many years. Although only 20 i can recall quite a few weather events,
>particularly in the Sydney region and could sit at a computer for hours
>monitoring anything with the word weather written on it. A weathernut?
>"yes", and having only joined the list today i am thrilled to see that i am
>not the only one and that there is just so much we can all talk about.
> I hope to get to know you all and once again wish each and everyone of
>you a Merry Christmas and exciting new century in weather.
> Cheers.
> James Pickett.
>
>
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Hi Bill,
Thank God i am not alone up here. Nice weather at the moment aeh! Quite
cool too, hard to believe in fact. I was speaking to a well respected local
this week and he reckons this is the coolest summer the Whitsunday region
has had since 83-84, maybe you might have a better idea. Anyway, a
different story last weekend, if i am correct it was Proserpine that nearly
topped the state with 35degrees on Sunday. Amazing, given the type of
stagnate weather patterns lately.... Cheers,
Merry Xmas.
James in Airlie.
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>Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:01:15 +1000
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane ONeill
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Friday, 24 December 1999 9:21 AM
> >
> >BTW, would anyone (with some spare time) like to plot the locations of
>all
> >of the ASWA members / aussie-weather members on a map - that could be
> >really, really interesting!!!!
> >
>
>
>Can do Jane and All
>
>Just send me your co-ordinates - privately preferably, so as not to clutter
>up the list !
>
>Bill,
>Proserpine - next door to James at Airlie.
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Jimmy here. I have just joined up Nick Moir to ASWA and we have had cracked
the 150 mark. And I told someone yesterday that we had 130 or so... Great
stuff. Anyone on the list want to join, you are most welcome. Get in
contact with me or your state reps.
Been raining here and then stopped for a while. I am quite curious about
the area SW of Sydney in the Warragamba catchment. I would expect there to
have been some heavy falls as the radar has worked overtime for basically
most of the day and it is still raining buckets it has on quite a few
occasions today gone into the pink green and large areas of yellow. I will
be interested in the falls we get for the area. I used to have a rain gauge
situated out that way but now the observers have moved.
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Hi Les,
Yes you are correct the high cloud is the back sheared remaining cloud from
the squall line out of the picture to the east and northeast of the storm.
This is an extract from the weather that day - unfortunately this storm may
have gone south of the Sydney suburbs over the national park and perhaps
moved off the coast (therefore perhaps underreported). It has no mention in
the Bureau's records but I am almost certain that this storm was given a
severe weather advice even after the severe storms had cleared with the
squall line. The first part involves Sydney
---------------------
On the 19th, 93km/hr wind gusts, hail up to 5cm and 40mm of rainfall in 40
minutes was reported from a number of
northwestern and northeastern Sydney suburbs causing damage to roofs,
trees, cars and other property. At Tamworth (North
West Slopes), winds gusted to 89km/hr and hail which was jagged, layered
and measured at 12.7cm caused tree damage.
Wee Waa (North West Plains) had 2cm hail with many trees blown down. At
Gloucester (Mid-North Coast) 102km/hr winds
blew down trees and caused structural damage to sheds.
-------------------- from the Bureau of Meteorology
I hope that helps Leslie. I would say Cape was high given we had the squall
line coming though with such severity.
Jimmy Deguara
At 22:54 23/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Jimmy:
>
>Was the storm severe? Did it produce hail? If so, how large was the hail?
> How long was the swath or swathes of hail?
>
>Visually it does show (to me, at least) distinctive multicellular traits.
>That does not necessarily eliminate the storm as supercellular. Supercell
>storms can be and often do have smaller cells within the storm "complex".
>But the canopy of cloud the storm is penetrating is an anvil from this
>storm itself or another nearby. If I was out from under the cloud canopy
>it would be far easier to tell. Either that or near the cloud base. At
>this point in time I would call it an organized ordinary (multicellular)
>storm. If the storm was associated with hail equal to or greater than 5
>cm, it would almost certainly be a supercellular storm. About the largest
>hail an ordinary multicellular severe storm produces is about 4 cm.
>
>Just my take on the storm.
>
>Les
>************************
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>Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist
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The Mayo family have asked me to wish all those in ASWA and on the list a
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. They are having a few problems with the
modem at present so hopefully they will be online sooner than later.
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx:Christmas day chase
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:05:28 +1100
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Hehe - I may just have to take the pudding with me depending on whether I am
driving to Canberra tomorrow or staying in Victoria (and I still don't
know)...........we've had late congesting Cu to the NE, N & NW this
evening.........Christmas may just have to be postponed
To everyone on the list, those I have met & those I have yet to meet, many
thanks for your friendship & acceptance of what everyone else has always
considered to be 'strange behaviour" ....but then you all know what I mean -
that 'drive' which causes us to be found on top of mountains when we should
be inside having dinner, driving 600kms on a Sunday, or 200kms of an evening
to chase a sunset because the 'supper cells' went home early, sitting in
front of a 2m swell on Port Phillip Bay & then being pelted with hail in St
Kilda, or for that matter driving 5,000kms in a week with a bunch of like
minded 'weather-nuts'.
To all of you enthusiasts out there, it's been a fantastic year - and there
will be many more to come!!!!! Now if someone could tell me the winning
numbers in Lotto please - so I can chase, not work......
Have a wonderful Christmas & a safe & happy new year & may there be
supercells for all of us.
Jane
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>Subject: Re: aus-wx:Christmas day chase
>
>
>Upper level cold pool moving over tomorrow. Things are already looking
>good in Adelaide with lots of big Cu pooping off to the north and east.
>That means I dispense with my Chrissie day/rellies responsibilities by
>2.00pm and hit ze road.
>
>Hell - I know where my priorities lie!
>
>Good luck to anyone else who makes a similar 'lame excuse' to get out of a
>second helping of pudding!
>
>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>paisley at cobweb.com.au
>http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2
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Subject: aus-wx: Todays Sydney Situation...
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I looked back at the day that I thought reflected today's weather and check
out the following and it is almost identical..
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/012
6jd01.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/012
6jd02.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/012
6jd03.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/012
6jd04.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/012
6jd05.jpg
I am amazed at the remarkable similarities. If there was any evidence of
the influence of land on the weather, this is one good piece of evidence.
What I mean is, you can get weather repeating itself to a certain extent
with a similar look and also clouds behaving similarly.
This evening the weather did decide to break up and you could see the large
cumulus to the SW as it is displayed in the pictures.
Jimmy Deguara
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From: "weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Heavy Rain in Penrith
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:53:03 +1100
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Merry Christmas
Between 6pm and 7pm tonite very heavy falls dumped on western Sydney. At
where i am at the moment, in Cranebrook (approx 10km north of penrith),
recieved 35mm in about 20 minutes. This is a sort of semi rural part of
Western Sydney, much like Dural, or Richmond/Windsor. Many of the roads were
cut around here, including Cranebrook Rd, adjacent to the Lakes, which was
'under 2 foot of water' according to an SES guys on the local radio. Power
was cut for about 15 minutes also.
This is the second major rainfall that western sydney has seen in as many
days. A total of 47mm recorded here since 8am this morning.
The rain seemed to follow a NE to SW flow, coming on shore at Wyong and
really dumping in between Richmond and Penrith, over the catchment area at
Warragamba Dam, and over the Macarthur region (Camden/Liverpool) ., There
were dense patches of yellow and green all day. Yet it was a dry day inner
city. It is usually the other way around.
BTW--Sunset was definately a Columbia-Tristar moment.
Daniel Weatherhead
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
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Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
> Hi Les,
>
> Yes you are correct the high cloud is the back sheared remaining cloud
from
> the squall line out of the picture to the east and northeast of the storm.
>
> This is an extract from the weather that day - unfortunately this storm
may
> have gone south of the Sydney suburbs over the national park and perhaps
> moved off the coast (therefore perhaps underreported). It has no mention
in
> the Bureau's records but I am almost certain that this storm was given a
> severe weather advice even after the severe storms had cleared with the
> squall line. The first part involves Sydney
> ---------------------
> On the 19th, 93km/hr wind gusts, hail up to 5cm and 40mm of rainfall in 40
> minutes was reported from a number of
> northwestern and northeastern Sydney suburbs causing damage to roofs,
> trees, cars and other property. At Tamworth (North
> West Slopes), winds gusted to 89km/hr and hail which was jagged, layered
> and measured at 12.7cm caused tree damage.
> Wee Waa (North West Plains) had 2cm hail with many trees blown down. At
> Gloucester (Mid-North Coast) 102km/hr winds
> blew down trees and caused structural damage to sheds.
> -------------------- from the Bureau of Meteorology
>
> I hope that helps Leslie. I would say Cape was high given we had the
squall
> line coming though with such severity.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> At 22:54 23/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Jimmy:
> >
> >Was the storm severe? Did it produce hail? If so, how large was the
hail?
> > How long was the swath or swathes of hail?
> >
> >Visually it does show (to me, at least) distinctive multicellular traits.
> >That does not necessarily eliminate the storm as supercellular.
Supercell
> >storms can be and often do have smaller cells within the storm "complex".
> >But the canopy of cloud the storm is penetrating is an anvil from this
> >storm itself or another nearby. If I was out from under the cloud canopy
> >it would be far easier to tell. Either that or near the cloud base. At
> >this point in time I would call it an organized ordinary (multicellular)
> >storm. If the storm was associated with hail equal to or greater than 5
> >cm, it would almost certainly be a supercellular storm. About the
largest
> >hail an ordinary multicellular severe storm produces is about 4 cm.
> >
> >Just my take on the storm.
> >
> >Les
> >************************
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:24:03 +0930
From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Hi All.
Just a reminder that BOM models that are normally locked away in the
"pay for service" dept. are now free due to Sydney to Hobart race.
heres the url: http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/sp_ev/sydhob.shtml/
This gives you access to more stuff then normally avail inc.SST & Gasp 7
day outlooks.
Paul.
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at optusnet.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Mery Christmas
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:12:17 +1100
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Hi Everybody,
Just a small email to wish everyone on the list a very Merry Christmas & a
Happy New Year.....pity I've got to work though....grrrr
John from Ballina
_________________________________________________________
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ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
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Ballina 2478 N.S.W
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Location Map
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:19:07 +1100
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Bill,
I'm actually sending my details to you via the list so that I can include
the URL if people want to find out where they really are....
http://www.auslig.gov.au/mapping/names/names.htm
allows you to search for your town or locality.
eg: my location details are:
Bayswater, Victoria
Latitude 37º 51' S
Longitude 145º 16' E
Bill's address for those who'd like to email him off the list with their
location is:
billwebb at tpgi.com.au
Bill, thanks for this - will be interesting to see how much of Australia we
really do cover (with apologies to the international members)
Jane
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Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
Melbourne Storm Chasers
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Heavy Rain in Blaxland
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:35:41 +1100
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Hi Everyone,
A very heavy fall of rain occurred this evening
between 6:30 and 7:00. I received 22.6mm today of which 8mm fell between 6:40
and 6:45. The gutters on my house were overflowing everywhere and the street
gutter looked like a set of rapids. There was no thunder heard during this
downpour which was different to the case yesterday.
Matthew Piper
P.S. I hope everyone has a Great Christmas tomorrow
both weatherwise and partywise.
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:39:46 +1100
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on the list.
>From all us here in sunny Strahan (21C today).
Chas
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:40:15 -1100 (DST)
From: Jonty Hall [jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Merry x-mas
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Hello to everyone,
I am pretty new to this list, but I must say that there are always some
very interesting ideas flying around on it, so wading through piles
of e-mails can be fun after all. I don't think I ever really introduced
myself properly, so I think I better do just that. AFTER CHristmas when
I've got a bit of time!
Hope you all have really great Chrissies and New Years anyhow.
Oh, and to anyone else who was in Darwin for the big blow 25 years ago -
well, here's to the Old Darwin (even though I was too young to remember
it!).
Cheers,
Jonty.
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Hi Everyone
For those wishing to get in contact with me, please email me over the
weekend, i cannot be found on ICQ/IRC because i think there is a problem at
my ISP's end, and my guess is they wont be back in the office until monday
at the earliest to fix it.
In response to Jimmys email, i totally agree and it is what i thought had
been happening all day, that the ranges/mountians around Sydney had alot to
do with the repeated formation of rain area's, not a drop was felt at my
place, and i doubt a drop was felt east of bankstown, yet it was dark to my
west/south to towards the illawarra, and north over the northern beaches
most of the day (for obvious reasons)
Hope you melbournites make the most of the stormy weather headed your way :)
Merry xmas and all that everyone
Matt Smith.
PS-> I will have a new website for the new millenium, I'll post when its up.
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:17:26 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
With the recent discussion over overshooting tops overshooting the EL -
Jane phoned Clyve Herbert to inform him of a few of the discussions.
Clyve then phoned me and we talked about a few things.
We were wondering how supercooled water droplets could actually come
into play with the main updraft, and overshooting top.
Supercooled water droplets, are droplets of water that are below 0C, and
still have not frozen. When they do freeze however, they release heat -
this is due to the latent heat of fusion/melting - to change ice to
water, you have to add heat to the system. However, to change water to
ice, you have to extract heat from the system. Water doesn't instantly
convert into ice at the moment it reaches 0C, it has to overcome the
latent heat of fusion to do that - ie, have enough heat extracted from
it to change the bonds between the molecules.
Interestingly, when supercooled water droplets do convert to ice, their
temperature *rises* to ~0C. (That's an approximate sign, not a negative
sign). This is because of the heat being released from the conversion
of water to ice - it's analogous to the process of vapour converting to
liquid, adding to the temperature of the parcel of air (ie, the
difference between the DALR and SALR