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001 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]             bye for now
002 Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au]                Perth Heat Wave
003 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              1989 Christmas Eve Storm
004 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]     Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
005 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au]              Off Topic
006 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]     Overshooting the EL
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Telegraph article RE: Hobart Yacth race weather
008 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Perth Heat Wave
009 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]    Overshooting the EL]
010 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Santa's presents...
011 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
012 Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com]                 Nick from Kerang - Looking good
013 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Nick from Kerang - Looking good
014 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]  STA -  A Happy Christmas Present
015 Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com]                 Kerang - Noon Update
016 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Back for Christmas
017 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             SA/VIC storms
018 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Melbourne Storm
019 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Melbourne severe storm warning
020 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]            Melbourne severe storm warning
021 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]            delaide's Christmas day
022 "Steve" [sselka at ozemail.com.au]                Darwin Storm Cam
023 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]           Darwin Storm Cam

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From: steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au]
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well guys, i must depart for my vacation to grafton, then canberra. am unsubscriging for i won't be back til the 17th or so!i will have internet access in canberra, so i might write if something interesting happens!!!
a big MERRY CHRISTMAS to all! and a safe new year which is shaping to be a big one for us!!:)

and a present to leave yous with, yes you guessedit, a  loop...hahawhwhe!

http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/satloop.gif

taatataa!
steve

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:58:49 +0800
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Hi All Perth is have a small (minor) Heat wave this following week, the
exspected top is about 37 C till at least Thursday. With the west coast
trough not moving any were for the next 5 - 7 Days. We just might have
our hottest Christmas day in 20 Years, Yes 20 Years..lol. The record for
christmas day is 42 C , cant recall the actuall year this ourred, it was
in the 60's i think ( any one care to comment )... only time will tell
if we make it or not.

And to all on the list Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

MJday

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:13:19 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,

I have put up my account of the 1989 SE QLD Christmas eve Tornadic
Thunderstorm on BSCH in the recent events section:

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/recentevents.htm

This storm caused a huge amount of damage in Redcliffe City, with 500
houses unroofed, 1000 damaged and 17 or so declared structurally
unsafe.. 2 people were also killed, and several more badly injured.. 

The storm also produced multiple tornadoes during it's lifetime (which
could possibly have been up to 6 hours).. this is also the storm which
reached 23.1 km's in height (!!!!!!!!!)

There is even a picture of the gust front in the report!
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:35:28 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Dec 10 Supercell 3D Radar (jet flow)
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Jimmy and all:

Storms producing all that severe and damaging weather are almost certainly
supercells.  As I said, hail of that size can not be produced without a
mesocyclone.  In my experience, hail greater than about 5 cm can only be
produced by supercells.  The enhanced vertical accelerations created by the
turning of the flow aloft appears to be necessary to create the broad and
sustained updrafts that are needed for hail growth to those sizes..

Les

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Hi All.

This came off another list.

Regards,
Carl.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>Greetings all,
>
>Wishing everyone the very best for the season.
>
>
>A Christmas Poem
>
>  Twas the night before Christmas and Santa's a wreck...
>  How to live in a world that's politically correct?
>  His workers no longer would answer to "Elves".
>  "Vertically Challenged" they were calling themselves.
>  And labor conditions at the north pole
>  Were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.
>  Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
>  Released to the wilds by the Humane Society.
>  And equal employment had made it quite clear
>  That Santa had better not use just reindeer.
>  So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid,
>  Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!
>  The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
>  The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.
>  And people had started to call for the cops
>  When they heard sled noises on their roof-tops.
>  Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite
>          frightened.
>  His fur trimmed red suit was called "Unenlightened."
>  And to show you the strangeness of life's ebbs and flows,
>  Rudolph was suing over unauthorized use of his nose
>  And had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation,
>  Demanding millions in over-due compensation.
>  So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
>  Who suddenly said she'd enough of this life,
>  Joined a self-help group, packed, and left in a whiz,
>  Demanding from now on her title was Ms.
>  And as for the gifts, why, he'd ne'er had a notion
>  That making a choice could cause so much commotion.
>  Nothing of leather, nothing of fur,
>  Which meant nothing for him.  And nothing for her.
>  Nothing that might be construed to pollute.
>  Nothing to aim.  Nothing to shoot.
>  Nothing that clamored or made lots of noise.
>  Nothing for just girls. Or just for the boys.
>  Nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
>  Nothing that's warlike or non-pacific.
>  No candy or sweets...they were bad for the tooth.
>  Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.
>  And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
>  Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.
>  For they raised the hackles of those psychological
>  Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.
>  No baseball, no football...someone could get hurt;
>  Besides, playing sports exposed kids to dirt.
>  Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
>  And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.
>  So Santa just stood there, disheveled, perplexed;
>  He just could not figure out what to do next.
>  He tried to be merry, tried to be gay,
>  But you've got to be careful with that word today.
>  His sack was quite empty, limp to the ground;
>  Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.
>  Something special was needed, a gift that he might
>  Give to all without angering the left or the right.
>  A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
>  Each group of people, every religion;
>  Every ethnicity, every hue,
>  Everyone, everywhere...even you.
>  So here is that gift, it's price beyond worth...
>  "May you and your loved ones enjoy peace on earth."
>
>
>
>God bless us, every one!
>
>Aranka
>Oz

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carl Smith.
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
carls at ace-net.com.au
Cyclone Tracking Maps Website:
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/index.htm
Current Cyclone Information Page:
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 12:46:16 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Overshooting the EL
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Clyve and Anthony and All:

> With the recent discussion over overshooting tops overshooting the EL -
> Jane phoned Clyve Herbert to inform him of a few of the discussions. 
> Clyve then phoned me and we talked about a few things.
> 
> We were wondering how supercooled water droplets could actually come
> into play with the main updraft, and overshooting top.
                snip bunches

This was a very good discussion.  Good reasoning.  Updrafts are very
definitely the location for large amounts of supercooled water.  In fact,
it is these drops of supercooled water that become the source of most of
the mass of hailstones.  They grow very rapidly in the updraft and in the
presence of this liquid water which freezes rapidly on contact with the
stones.  However, the water does not freeze immediately due to the heat
exchange and heat budget of the stones.  The largest stones often have a
10% to 15% liquid water mass that both coat the stone and that forms
trapped liquid within.  Sometimes these stones reach the surface rather
"mushy" and can break up on impact with the surface.

It has been found that by the time the updraft temperatures reach -40 all
the supercooled liquid has frozen.  Even here there is hail growth but it
takes place in a dry fashion (vapor to solid) and much more slowly.  It is
in the wet growth that the lion's share of mass is accumulated.  By the
time most of the updrafts reach the trop, the EL for most thunderstorms,
the updraft is much colder than this.  So, at the tropopause and above, the
updraft finds itself colder, the higher it rises the colder, much colder,
it is than the environment.  Note that on the IR satellite photos the
storms show up as being very cold......-70 to -100 or even colder.  (It is
for this reason that the IR temperatures can not be used to estimate cloud
top heights.  Thus, the glaciation (cloud water turning to ice) usually
occurs well below the overshooting dome level.  However, during the phase
transition from liquid to ice lower down in the updraft, there are very
large quantities of latent heat released sustaining and augmenting the
updraft.  BTW, most hailstones have as their cores, what is called graupel
(hope the spelling is correct but probably not [S]) or what can be called
pellet snow.  However, sometimes you can even find insects that were lofted
by the updraft and become the condensation nuclei for hail growth.

Remember the discussions of CAPE?  Also remember that CAPE is largely due
to the addition of latent heat.  So, it is the initial conversion of gas to
liquid where some latent heat is released and then the additional heat
release when the phase changes once again from liquid to ice, that so much
of the potential energy of CAPE .....the P stands for "potential", is
released.  That explains why so much of the CAPE is wrapped up in the water
vapor....humidity of the air.

Environmental shear and the fact that storms move more slowly than the wind
creates storm-relative, sr, flow.  It is this sr flow as well as the storm
summit divergence that helps remove mass from the upper reaches of the
updraft and helps maintain the updraft.

Les

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 08:59:42 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Hi Blair and others,

Sadly, having worked in the newspaper industry (not in Sydney) I know
how much crap editors and subbies CAN (to be balanced, they also produce
good work) come up with. As a junior back in those days it was awful
just walking the streets after certain silly articles.

Its probably been discussed but has anyone thought of approaching the
papers about the said articles etc? Again, because its a "Weather"
article, somehow papers seem to get away with it, ie: few seem to think
its important, compared to other "Important" stories. 


Lindsay P.
PS: Even if we emailed them individually, it could help.

Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> >
> > To the contrary. I found it very uninteresting or perhaps I should say
> > dissapointing. All it showed was how dangerous it is for those without the
> > expertise to interpret computer models. They claimed the models from last
> > year are very similar to this year. Perhaps to the public who merely see
> > squiggles on a page that may be true. But any experienced meteorologist
> > could have pointed out enough differences to throw cold water on their
> > story. It was irresponsible of them to print such garbage and for the editor
> > to see it worthy of a comment was pretty laughable.
> >
> > It's great for the media to create interesting weather stories but this was
> > classic fearmongering at it's best.
> >
> Hear, hear.
> 
> Another interesting angle I've seen in a newspaper today - in an
> article on Y2K panic (or lack thereof) in the general population, a
> Coles-Myer spokesperson was quoted as attributing increased sales of
> candles in Queensland, WA and SA to the arrival of the cyclone season.
> Entirely reasonable for the first two, but South Australia?
> 
> (I guess it's just about plausible that a fast-moving SE-tracking
> cyclone of the Vance or Bobby type might one day retain its TC status
> into the far west of SA, but it's not something I'm holding my breath
> waiting for).
> 
> (and I won't get started on the Sydney Morning Herald's angle on
> the Audit Office report. The ANAO report (or to be more precise, the
> summary and recommendations - any more is for the masochist) is well
> worth reading, but I wouldn't wrap my fish and chips in the 'Herald's
> effort).
> 
> Blair Trewin
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 06:57:37 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Perth's hottest Xmas Day was 42.0 in 1968 just behind Adelaide's 42.1
way back in 1888 as the hottest for any Aussie Capital
Let's hope we all "weather"the New Year in peace and contentment.

Cheers,

Don White

Mark Dwyer wrote:
> 
> Hi All Perth is have a small (minor) Heat wave this following week, the
> exspected top is about 37 C till at least Thursday. With the west coast
> trough not moving any were for the next 5 - 7 Days. We just might have
> our hottest Christmas day in 20 Years, Yes 20 Years..lol. The record for
> christmas day is 42 C , cant recall the actuall year this ourred, it was
> in the 60's i think ( any one care to comment )... only time will tell
> if we make it or not.
> 
> And to all on the list Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
> 
> MJday
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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 09:21:52 +1100
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> I believe it is thought that supercooled water droplets cannot remain
> supercooled under temperatures of -20C and below.

This reminds me of several aircraft accidents in Western Australia involving
the MU2 (This is a high speed twin turboprop that uses spoilers instead of
ailerons for roll control).
Both of these aircraft where believed to be flying through what a friend
described to me as super saturated air originating from decayed cyclones.
The aircraft skin is very cold, as it flys in cold air, it hits a area of
super saturated air with unstable super cooled water droplets that instantly
turn to ice on impact. Ice has several effects it adds weight and changes
airflow  both have a negative effect on the aircraft's performance. Ice in
large quantities can also jam flight controls.
Both aircraft had autopilot on and accrued ice so fast that control was lost
and basically fell like a stone (large block of ice). At the accident site
there was no evidence of why these aircraft fell out of the sky because ice
melts.

Christmas morning is going  to plan, the food colouring and chocolate has
kicked in, the dog has run for cover and you know who likes you by the noise
coming out of toys they gave.

Chas
Strahan Tasmania




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Hi every1,
Just thought I'd wish everyone the compliments of the season and also to 
tell you that Santa's delivering some presents my way atm...

Large towers to my NNW shooting up at phenomenal speed! Capped at present 
but if the temperature gets up a bit more...WHOOOHH!!!

Welcome to all the list neophytes - you'll have gangs'o'fun on this list...I 
know I have!

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof (36.08 S 143.23 E)
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I am finding this discussion interesting Leslie. And your comments lead to 
two two discussions the first still on this storm event

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd20.jpg

First, just to clarify, the hailstones of 5cm were reported from the 
northern part of the so called squall line structure. The photos of the 
base is given as the following sets of photos and all are related to the 
same storm but intensifying somewhat as it approached the coast from about 
50-60km west in the first photos. The storm is situated to our west and 
then gradually to our northwest and north later in these images

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd06.jpg

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd08.jpg

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd09.jpg

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd10.jpg

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1997/121 
9jd12.jpg   photos 12 to 17

This is the storm that gets the mention in the database of 5cm hail and 
damaging wind report mentioned in the previous e-mail. Again, we have no 
clarification of what type of storm it was. I assumed that it was part of a 
squall line system but you may be right - perhaps this particular storm was 
a mesocyclone (supercell). From the studies, it is well known that a 
supercell can develop ahead of the squall line system and perhaps gradually 
become part of the system. You and others may like to shed light on that. I 
only tread on areas which I am sure about - I don't like to say things I am 
not sure about.

By the way, this is my account of the day

Mild. Humid. Early altocumulus and altocumulus castellanus with rain - 
heavy rain and thunder. This moved to E.\\\ More cumulus congestus 
developed with a thunderstorm around 11:30am to the S. The cumulus 
congestus developed rain and thunder was heard around 1pm. At 1:30pm, I 
headed for Oakhurst and waited for Michael taking 1 photo of a smaller 
storm moving E. I then headed for Rooty Hill for more photographs. At 
2:50pm, I went to get Michael from Mt Druitt Station and then headed back 
to Rooty Hill. We took video and photographs of the storms moving E with a 
light green tinge. Two roll clouds moved S and overhead as a result of 
outflow from the storms. We then headed home. The back anvil gradually 
cleared. A thunderstorm developed to the S during the evening. Hail damage, 
strong winds, and locally heavy rain was reported in these storms.

Unfortunately, my description doesn't help as it is ambiguous to suggest 
that the "storms" could have included or not included this particular major 
cell. Oh well, I will try and ask the Bureau in Sydney and see if they take 
an interest or not.

The second point I would like to raise is that you probably meant that 
supercells are the most common cause of giant hail events ie hail larger 
than 5cm. Please not that it is not so uncommon (no percentage or numbers 
can be provided here) to have non supercell storms sending down giant 
hailstones. A couple of recent good examples of pulse events were

The Dec 16, '98 storm was a pulse storm in Brisbane area - it gave 10cm 
hail, two people reported it after measuring it with a ruler!
from Anthony Cornelius

And also a storm which Michael Bath and I have documented in the following 
report

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/1996/docs/9602-0 
1.htm   please note there are also radar images of the storm (one of the 
few times we could get hold of them)

For interests sake (when you get time) you may want to read the report on 
the supercell on the same day

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/1996/docs/9602-0 
3.htm

There are several articles you or others may want to read from the past inn 
the Storm News archives section - namely

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/index.html 
current

http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/news.htm   archives

That is for those who don't know already and enjoy reading the Storm News 
letter - now the official newsletter of ASWA.

Sorry for rambling on but I can't help it when things take my interest.

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:35 24/12/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Jimmy and all:
>
>Storms producing all that severe and damaging weather are almost certainly
>supercells.  As I said, hail of that size can not be produced without a
>mesocyclone.  In my experience, hail greater than about 5 cm can only be
>produced by supercells.  The enhanced vertical accelerations created by the
>turning of the flow aloft appears to be necessary to create the broad and
>sustained updrafts that are needed for hail growth to those sizes..
>
>Les
>
>************************
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 15:53:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Nick from Kerang - Looking good
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Hey All

Happy Christmas

Woke this morning to the banging blinds, the light ENE
of last night has now freshened considerably. 

Took a look out the window and saw what every severe
weather watching hates "a full sky of cloud"

So after a few mutterings to myself I went back to
bed.

Got up at 9.30 and it was starting to look a lot more
promosing, the cloud had become scattered and some
sweet sun was breaking through.

And now at 10.50 good breaks of blue are evident, the
temp has risen to 25. There is a line of congestous to
the south and a nice looking Cb is to the NNW.
Atomosphere appears primed for storm development.

The fire weather briefing is a work of art, have a
read

"A high pressure system south of Tasmania will move to
the Tasman Sea on Boxing
day while a low pressure trough deepens over Western
Victoria. The trough will
then move gradually eastwards across the state on
Monday. The passage of cold
front across southern Victoria and Tasmania on Tuesday
will reinforce a cool
fresh southwest to southerly airflow across the state.
  
Today will be generally warm and humid with easterly
winds persisting, fresh
along the coast.  Showers and thunderstorms are
expected today and are currently
occurring in the Mallee and northern Wimmera. Humidity
levels are generally
high. Estimates issued this morning look ok although
the LAL's in the Mallee
should be 2 instead of 1. A significant weather chart
will be issued shortly and
indicates thunderstortms possible in all parts of the
state and a severe
thunderstorm watch area is indicated in the northwest.
Sunday will be humid and warm with showers and
thunderstorms becoming more
widespread from the west and some locally heavy falls
are likely. Winds will be
mainly moderate to fresh east to northeasterly."

Chrissie dinner is going to be a quick affair this
year :)

Got the SLR and 6 rolls of film ready, will keep
everyone posted.

Nick from Kerang (near swan hill)
                                   




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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:54:12 +1100
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nick from Kerang - Looking good
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Heya Nick

About time you got a camera!!! congratz :), just make sure you read up on
how to use it thismorning, so your tornado/supercell shots turn out this
arvo! ;)

Matt Smith

>Hey All
>
>Happy Christmas
>
>Woke this morning to the banging blinds, the light ENE
>of last night has now freshened considerably. 
>
>Took a look out the window and saw what every severe
>weather watching hates "a full sky of cloud"
>
>So after a few mutterings to myself I went back to
>bed.
>
>Got up at 9.30 and it was starting to look a lot more
>promosing, the cloud had become scattered and some
>sweet sun was breaking through.
>
>And now at 10.50 good breaks of blue are evident, the
>temp has risen to 25. There is a line of congestous to
>the south and a nice looking Cb is to the NNW.
>Atomosphere appears primed for storm development.
>
>The fire weather briefing is a work of art, have a
>read
>
>"A high pressure system south of Tasmania will move to
>the Tasman Sea on Boxing
>day while a low pressure trough deepens over Western
>Victoria. The trough will
>then move gradually eastwards across the state on
>Monday. The passage of cold
>front across southern Victoria and Tasmania on Tuesday
>will reinforce a cool
>fresh southwest to southerly airflow across the state.
>  
>Today will be generally warm and humid with easterly
>winds persisting, fresh
>along the coast.  Showers and thunderstorms are
>expected today and are currently
>occurring in the Mallee and northern Wimmera. Humidity
>levels are generally
>high. Estimates issued this morning look ok although
>the LAL's in the Mallee
>should be 2 instead of 1. A significant weather chart
>will be issued shortly and
>indicates thunderstortms possible in all parts of the
>state and a severe
>thunderstorm watch area is indicated in the northwest.
>Sunday will be humid and warm with showers and
>thunderstorms becoming more
>widespread from the west and some locally heavy falls
>are likely. Winds will be
>mainly moderate to fresh east to northeasterly."
>
>Chrissie dinner is going to be a quick affair this
>year :)
>
>Got the SLR and 6 rolls of film ready, will keep
>everyone posted.
>
>Nick from Kerang (near swan hill)
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: STA -  A Happy Christmas Present
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 11:57:45 +1100
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Happy Christmas to those of you who might get some action today.
 
All very quiet and overcast (sc) in Canberra temp of 18 - with no sign of storms, rain, showers or anything else. Mind you with Christmas Day family obligations, one doesn't want it to get too interensting too soon,
 
Patrick
 
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
 
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1121 on Saturday the 25th of December 1999
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
 
Upper and Lower WesternCentral West Plains, west of around Walgett, Warren, Condobolin
and Wyalong
Riverina, north of about Balranald, Hay and Griffith
 
Thunderstorms are already occurring across parts of the Advice area, and more storms are forecast
to develop during today. Some of these storms areexpected to bring very heavy
rainfall and localised flash flooding.
015 Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:04:51 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com] Subject: aus-wx: Kerang - Noon Update To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mostly cloudy here now, Cu towers going up everywhere with the odd sunny break. Temp 24. Cb to the north with a rain curtain, very humid. Radar is showing cells popping up all over the SA border. Chrissie dinner will be served soon then off. Hoping for that sweet supercell Matt!!!! :) Nick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free at yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 016 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 01:27:43 +0000 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aus-wx [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Back for Christmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Les from UK here, have I missed anything whilst I've been away???? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:36:52 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: SA/VIC storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Storm in melbourne local radar in the red, near a place called "Warburton", certainly interesting watching these storms in Vic/SA move in a westerly/south westerly direction, i dont really think ive seen it before. Whoever goes out chasing, have a great one! BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY SOUTH AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE Issued at 12:15 pm on Saturday, 25 December 1999 For people in the Riverland, Murraylands, Upper and Lower South East, Mid North and Greater Adelaide and Mount Lofty Ranges districts. Scattered thunderstorms may cause localised very heavy rain in these districts during this afternoon. Very isolated severe wind gusts and small hail are also possible. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 16:44:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Storm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone Storms are currently visable on the melbourne web cam, http://webcam.omni.net.au/ should be some interesting rainfall totals in SA, particularly near the Vic border/Adelaide suburbs from the storms. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 17:01:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne severe storm warning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry about the flood of emails, but im sure people would like to be kept up to date on these things.. :) BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST Severe Thunderstorm Warning for the western suburbs of Melbourne . Issued at 1624 on Saturday the 25th of December 1999 A severe thunderstorm has been observed west of Melbourne airport and is expected to move slowly southwest over the western suburbs during the next hour or so. Flash flooding is expected. This warning will be reviewed at 6pm and should not be issued after that time. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 17:11:38 +0930 From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win98; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne severe storm warning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great stuff for those poor storm starved Vics. Here - a very merry wet xmas - Thundery monsoonal showers rolling in off the ocean - rainfall as follows: > 9am 24.12 - 28mm 9am - 9am 25.12 - 37mm 9am - 3pm 25.12 - 5 mm 3pm - present - 17mm at present more thunder and a heavy shower rolling in - seems like the monsoonal trough is getting inot gear & strengthening. Also Low that they are watching here - in the NE Gulf - only Low chance at this stage. Hope you had a great day. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 021 X-Sender: paisley at mail.cobweb.com.au Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 18:59:17 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx:Adelaide's Christmas day Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, it was always going to be a storm day here, with Cu popping up all over the place from very early in the morning. After Christmas dinner, I checked the radar at 2.00pm CST and it was obvious that east of the Mt Lofties was the place to be, but there was also activity on the Northern Adelaide plains. Because of the shorter distance and the flat terrain, I opted to chase to the latter hoping to be on the northern flank if any severe stuff caught up with me. So I drove north to the west of Gawler. Lovely H-bomb and flanking line to the NW. Didn't take a pic as it was right in the sun unfortunately. To the SE was very black. I got my reward with a lovely guster passing overhead. After that it was just light rain so I headed east over the Mt Lofties hoping to intercept the next cell head on. As it was the idea was right but the timing was wrong as I emerged on the Lofties eastern scarp just to the south and behind a gorgeous looking cell that ended up bringing quite bad flooding to the town of Eudunda. Nice base structure, inflow bands and a beautiful leticular cloud were my rewards - but there was no hope of chasing it from so far behind. All in all, not a bad day, no real severe weather, but some nice shots snapped, and it could have been so much better. What I really needed for Christmas was a laptop and mobile phone connection! Santa???? Godd chasing to all, especially in western Victoria! Cheers Phil 'Paisley' Bagust paisley at cobweb.com.au http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 022 From: "Steve" [sselka at ozemail.com.au] To: "severeweather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Storm Cam Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 21:21:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
http://www.qantmnt.com/webcam/
 
I don't know if it is fair dinkum,
 
Steve Ellangowan
023 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 12:51:04 +0000 From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Organization: Cosmic EuroCon - note all times in GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Storm Cam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com  

Steve wrote:

http://www.qantmnt.com/webcam/
A bit dark, isn't it - did the webcam capture a CG or something????

Les(UK)


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Updated: 28 December 1999

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