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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Monday, 3 January 2000

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001 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Yesterday's Supercell(s?) in SE QLD
002 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Holidays
003 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           NASA site & MSC updates
004 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]            Armidale hailstorm 1/1/2000 images
005 astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]             Adelaide radar strange
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Adelaide radar strange
007 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Looking good for Sydney tomorrow
008 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Vantage Points Database
009 "Pearce" [r_pearce at Dingoblue.net.au]           Adelaide radar strange
010 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]            Adelaide radar strange
011 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Looking good for Sydney tomorrow
012 Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]            Armidale hailstorm 1/1/2000 images
013 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Vantage Points Database

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001
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:20:18 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,

I've finally been able to have a brief look at radar for the New Year
Day storms in SE QLD.  It appears the thunderstorm I believed was a
supercell, split from a cell near Kingaroy, this then moves to the right
of all the cells nearby.  This is how a cell that splits from the south
should move (ie, to the right of the other thunderstorms). 
Unfortunately, the vital image is just outisde the reach of local radar,
so there is a chance it may have been a very very close new cell spawned
by the other cell...but I'm fairly confident it split.  I'll upload some
radar when I get a chance to.

Thanks to Jimmy Degaura who sent me some of the missing radar images!

And a big thanks to Jimmy Deguara (again!), Michael Bath and Matt Smith
for phoning me giving me updates - it was much appreciated!  

Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Well...I saw a magnificant thunderstorm while showing relatives about
> yesterday in the Brisbane valley.  I told Jimmy that I'm fairly
> confident that it was definately a supercell, as it definately appeared
> to be rotating (although we never got that close to it).  There was at
> one stage, a "collar cloud" that had banded itself around in the
> midlevel(ish) area of the main updraft, underneath a RFB.  This was not
> captured on video tape, but there is a short glimpse at an inflow band
> into the base, and a suspicious lowering underneath.  But the footage is
> very brief, and it's difficult to discern whether it was a shallow WC or
> not...but we'll see.
> 
> While going through the footage, there appears to be a long, thin,
> bended tornado - again, footage was only brief (thanks to
> forests/hills), but a little later, I have footage of the same scene,
> but it appears to be a long, thin and very well bended hail shaft (?
> focus kept going out because there was sometimes more foreground than
> background...should have put it on manual override, so it may just be a
> different intensity rain shaft).  I have to go through the tape more
> closely, but I'm fairly sure it was just a hail shaft..mind you if it
> was, there was very strong outflow winds.
> 
> The updraft was very strong and impressive, going up into a backshearing
> anvil.  At times, there appears to be an overshoot...but you can't tell
> very well due to the other cloud.
> 
> Because the terrain is so horrible, there's lots of brief 2-3second
> shots of the storm.
> 
> Maybe I'll be able to go over to James' and use his video capture card
> and people can judge for thsmselves, but we'll see.
> 
> After such an RS season, I was just ecstatic to see something that I
> thought was spectacular.  I suspect this wasn't the only supercell
> yesterday either.
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
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> QLD, 4153
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:39:07 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Monday 6am

Well, the time has finally come. We are off to the south coast for our
holidays, for a week. We are taking the road through Oberon\Taralga.
Andrew, if we get a chance  we might pop in for a bite at your mum's
cafe' although come to think of it, we might be driving past too early.
What a gorgeous day to drive on after so many overcast days up here. 


Happy Weather events and chasing to you all, I'll keep an eye on things
in the Burrill Lakes area.


Lindsay Pearce

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003
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: NASA site & MSC updates
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 10:07:30 +1100
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After 3 months of being down, one of my favourite sites is up & running
again.....
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5wv.html



I've got back to the world  & done a bit of updating -
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/wotznu.htm
will give you the details - there's a bit more Xmas humour courtesy of Les
Crossan in the UK, Peter Matters photography of the Victorian Central
District storm on 23/12/99...........

also I've put the 2 pics of the ?funnel? up at
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/funnel.htm

and.....

What does it mean when you walk through the front door and the first 3
things you do are
a) check 130 emails
b) check the JCU image, msl & unisys sites
c) write and upload a web page....
and then you unpack the car......

I know I'm meant to be mowing the lawn & vacumming,  but there's Ac out
there.........

Jane
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 15:22:51 +1100
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Armidale hailstorm 1/1/2000 images
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Hi All,

I have uploaded a Grafton local scale radar animation:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/radar/
4.40 to 8.30pm local time.

A weaker cell seems to be moving south just prior to the stronger storm
moving towards the NE.

and IR satellite image animation:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/satpics/
11.00am to midnight.

Armidale is at approx 30.5 South 151.7 East.

regards, Michael

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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 18:56:08 +1030
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From: astroman [astroman at chariot.net.au]
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Hi all,

Just noticed on Adelaide Broad a couple of bands of rain ranging from blues 
to yellow, but when I switch to local scale nothing is there hmmmmm, you 
think something is wrong :) btw there is only a small amount of Cu above 
the hill line, but clear as a bell everywhere else including the region 
where the rain is meant to be. Time index of these images are both 08:10UTC.

Very weird :)

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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:27:57 +1000
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Looks like a huge flock of Y2K bugs heading for Adelaide :-)

On a more serious note...that's a huge rainband (yellow/green), and not
a cloud nearby on sat pics!!!

astroman wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just noticed on Adelaide Broad a couple of bands of rain ranging from blues
> to yellow, but when I switch to local scale nothing is there hmmmmm, you
> think something is wrong :) btw there is only a small amount of Cu above
> the hill line, but clear as a bell everywhere else including the region
> where the rain is meant to be. Time index of these images are both 08:10UTC.
> 
> Very weird :)
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Looking good for Sydney tomorrow
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 21:04:11 +1100
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Typical as I will be back at work !

LI's are -4 for a large area of the Illawarra - Central coast by
afternoon, -8 early in afternoon on south coast.

Also the first time this season I have seen CAPE over 1000 predicted for PM
in the Illawarra.

The worry will be the timing of the SE change, too early and the show will
move north.


Michael Thompson
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Another couple or three vantage points for you if you're ever travelling
down this Victorian way.....

1. Spring Road - just north of Coldstream ( on a good dry weather gravel
road)
    Turn right off Maroondah Highway 5kms NE of the Melba & Maroondah
Highway intersection - travel over 1 crest,       through a valley & up to
the next crest - stop outside No. 18-20 gate.
    Phone reception: Optus & Vodaphone - both full service
    Viewing: pretty much 360deg (if you duck & weave around a couple of
trees)

2.    Corner of MacDonalds & McGraths Tracks just off the Yallourn North
exit off Princes Freeway east of Moe.
    Turn right at end of exit road, then right up MacDonalds Track, continue
up hill till you get to the corner of MacDonalds & McGraths Tracks (sealed).
    Phone reception: Optus & Vodaphone - both full service
    Viewing: 360deg as above (but those trees!!!)

3.    Portarlington Tank (south east of Geelong) - turn into Tower Road.
There are a couple of vantage points at the top of the hill (gravel).
    Phone service: Optus & Vodaphone - OK
    Viewing: a couple of different spots will give you almost total 360deg -
be prepared to be extremely frustrated if you   see a supercell across the
Bay - cos there ain't no way you're going to be able to get anything but a
picture of it  - but the view is stunning all the same

Jane

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On this note, the same thing has happened to Sydney before - both local and
broad. The radar has indicated bands of rain(mostly coastal showers) ranging
from dark blue right up to pink at times when it is obvious that there is no
rain around - especially as it passes over your house and you see clear blue
sky outside!

Interesting

Matthew Pearce
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Date: Monday, 3 January 2000 8:44
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide radar strange


>Looks like a huge flock of Y2K bugs heading for Adelaide :-)
>
>On a more serious note...that's a huge rainband (yellow/green), and not
>a cloud nearby on sat pics!!!
>
>astroman wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just noticed on Adelaide Broad a couple of bands of rain ranging from
blues
>> to yellow, but when I switch to local scale nothing is there hmmmmm, you
>> think something is wrong :) btw there is only a small amount of Cu above
>> the hill line, but clear as a bell everywhere else including the region
>> where the rain is meant to be. Time index of these images are both
08:10UTC.
>>
>> Very weird :)
>>
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:22:29 +0930
From: Paul Mossman [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
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Howdy all.

Same happenin to Darwin radar - Broad Scale is fine - Local Scale is
warped. 

On another note: nothing happenin here with the weather - other then
hot!

Paul.
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I agree Michael. I still can't believe that the values have not changed 
based on what happened last season. I will be watching very closely. I 
think a squall line well head through Sydney. If this is the case, I am 
staying to the N of Sydney and seeing what happens.

Jimmy Deguara


At 21:04 3/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Typical as I will be back at work !
>
>LI's are -4 for a large area of the Illawarra - Central coast by
>afternoon, -8 early in afternoon on south coast.
>
>Also the first time this season I have seen CAPE over 1000 predicted for PM
>in the Illawarra.
>
>The worry will be the timing of the SE change, too early and the show will
>move north.
>
>
>Michael Thompson
>http://thunder.simplenet.com
>
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 20:39:18 +0930
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Excellent Stuff Michael.

Paul.

Michael Bath wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I have uploaded a Grafton local scale radar animation:
> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/radar/
> 4.40 to 8.30pm local time.
> 
> A weaker cell seems to be moving south just prior to the stronger storm
> moving towards the NE.
> 
> and IR satellite image animation:
> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/satpics/
> 11.00am to midnight.
> 
> Armidale is at approx 30.5 South 151.7 East.
> 
> regards, Michael
> 
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Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 22:00:05 +1000
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Hi All,

Talking about advantage points...I found an excellent advantage point
for Brisbane yesterday, but it might be somewhat inconvienient and
expensive for most.  That is, the departure level (4th floor), of the
Brisbane International Airport (Yes wiz, we do have an international
AP!!! :P  )  From the ramp at the deperature level, you
get a clear view to the ENE - to the N, to the W, from the cafe on the
western wing of the departure waiting lounge (not the immigration
area!), if you go outside, you have an excellent view to the S to the
NW.

You might be able to get away with stopping for 2mins on the departure
level to view north...but any longer and you'll have to pay for parking!

Jane ONeill wrote:

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