Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Tuesday, 25 January 2000

From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au] WA Record Rains over the Weekend 002 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Possible Australian January record low 003 "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] Battle of Relative Humidty 004 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Possible Australian January record low 005 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Battle of Relative Humidty 006 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] Battle of Relative Humidty 007 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Battle of Relative Humidty 008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Its almost cold in Blackheath 009 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Change of address for web pages on my server 010 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Interesting Alice Radar 011 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Alice Springs radar 012 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Looking wet for NSW/Vic Wed and Thurs 013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] USA Winter? 014 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] USA Winter? 015 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] Alice Springs radar -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:34:13 +0800 From: Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: WA Record Rains over the Weekend Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well WA is still having reports of flood damage coming in as ppl, can get out and about, With most farmers in the Effected Area's though the Wheatbelt & Great Southern Area's the Worst hit. The Ground is that wet in places that even 4WD's are out of the Question for most farmers. Stock loses are exspected to be reasonably high in most area's as most of the Sheep in the region have just been Shawn in the last week or so, hence there dieing of exsposure mainly or lack of feed. The Swan River is flooding at Caversham near (Midland) already, the question is how much more will it flood, that will depend on how much was water is to come from the catchment area of the Swan. a few articals from the ABC web site... Interstate repair teams flown-in to restore WA phone services Telstra repair teams from Queensland and South Australia have been flown to WA to help restore services to thousands of customers, cut off by the weekend's unseasonal storms. Four thousand faults have been reported throughout the State with Kalamunda and Roleystone the worst-affected areas. Flooding in the Wheatbelt is preventing repair crews from gaining access to damaged cables in many areas. Spokesman for Telstra Richard O'Connel says it is expected the number of reported faults will increase. "Across the weekend we had in excess of 200 staff out fixing faults with additional staff flying in from Queensland and South Australia," he said. "We've got enough [people] on the ground but it's difficult to access a lot of these flood-ridden areas, we anticipate some services may not be back on until Monday-week unfortunately." Govt assessing storm damage assistance The Western Australian Government will decide what assistance is to be given to farmers affected by the weekend's unseasonal storms, when the full extent of damage is known. WA Farmers Federation president Kevin McMenemy has described the situation as similar to last year's Moora floods, but on a much wider scale. There has been significant losses of newly shorn sheep from the cold, wet conditions and some country road networks have been badly damaged by floodwaters. Premier Richard Court says the extent of damage should become apparent in the coming days. Farmers in the Lake Grace area report losing up to 700 sheep each as a result of the cold and wet conditions. At Lake Grace township, 135 millimetres of rain fell between Friday afternoon and yesterday afternoon. Agriculture Western Australia regional manager Amanda Miller says although the rain has eased, cold easterly winds are continuing to make conditions difficult for stock. Meanwhile, the only detour between Ravensthorpe and Jerramungup, has been closed to light traffic. Due to major flooding, only heavy vehicles and 4WDs are able to take the detour through Lake Grace and Lake King. Authorities hope to reopen the Lake King to Ravensthorpe Road to light traffic later this morning. The South Coast Highway, between the two Great Southern towns remains closed, and repairs at the Phillips River Bridge are expected to take at least a week to complete. The wet conditions forced the closure of the Fitzgerald River national park at the weekend, but the park is expected to be reopened later today. The Department of Conservation and Land Management says roads inside the park were closed because they are more prone to damage from vehicles when they are wet and because dieback tends to spread more easily in the damp conditions. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:51:27 -0800 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible Australian January record low Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com All interesting stuff Blair, love all this record stuff. Maybe its from my running days (records/statistics etc), I dunno. Any more thoughts on the ECMWF cold outbreak predictions? How cold do you think it might get and how far reaching (Cent. Tablelands?) might such an outbreak be, if ECMWF is right? Lindsay P. Blair Trewin wrote: > > An update on my post this morning. > > The Thredbo Village -8.0 from yesterday is definitely wrong - it > appears that the observer read the wrong end of the index (suggesting > a true minimum of around -1, which seems more like it). > > The Crackenback -6 is fine - but with a twist. Many automatic stations > can only transmit maximum and minimum temperature in whole degrees > (because of a limitation in the coding), so the value appears in > our database as -6.0. However, the Thredbo resort has access to a > console giving observations from the instrument, and informed us that > the value on that was -5.6. We'll need to make a decision here on > which of these two values should be the official observation - the > instinctive answer would seem to be the more precise value, but then > that raises the question of inconsistency with other situations when > the station had no manual input (it's not an issue in this case, but > could be if the manual observation was close to a previously observed > autmoatic one). > > -5.6 would only equal the Australian January record; -6.0 would break > it. Will keep you posted. (If the weekend sees as spectacular a cold > outbreak as the one the ECMWF is predicting, it might be a moot point > by next Sunday anyway). > > Blair Trewin > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 From: "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] To: "aussieweather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:37:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hey all!

Last nite, while participating in a weekly trivia contest at the mean fiddler in Sydney's North west, a question was asked about relative humidity. The question was which two capital cities have the highest average annual humidity?

I answered Darwin, and Brisbane, thinking that my weather knowledge had once again came thru with the goods, but i was surprised to see, that it is actually Sydney, and Darwin. Stagged with this wrong answer i confronted the trivia master, who promptly pulled out a BOM weather stats book and showed me my failings.

Talking about this on IRC with Ben Quinn, he then expanded my brain, by telling me that warmer air hold more moisture, and that Brisbane has a higher average maximum temperature than Sydney, and therefore would actually be more humid. Some of the figures Ben got from Climate of Australia book, that at 3pm Darwin has a average RH of 54%, Brisbane 53%, and Sydney 57%, and at 9am Darwin has 73%, Brisbane has 66% and Sydney has 68%(these are average annual figures).

So what is everyone's thoughts, should temps be brought into calculation? do these figures falsely represent the true nature of humidity? what is the true nature of humidity?, and does this sound like a promo for a Unsolved Mysteries show?

Discussion please.

Daniel Weatherhead
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weatherhead at ozemail.com.au
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004 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Possible Australian January record low To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:49:01 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > All interesting stuff Blair, love all this record stuff. Maybe its from > my running days (records/statistics etc), I dunno. Any more thoughts on > the ECMWF cold outbreak predictions? How cold do you think it might get > and how far reaching > (Cent. Tablelands?) might such an outbreak be, if ECMWF is right? > The most recent ECMWF run has fallen into line with other models, suggesting that the major northward thrust of cold air will take place over the Tasman. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:04:01 +1000 From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This all stems from the fact that we use relative humidity as a measure of comfort rather than a comfort index or dew point. Sure, Sydney has the highest annaul relative humidity but Melbourne does pretty well in Winter especially mornings. But that is boosted by the fact that on a cold and foggy morning the RH is close to 100% and might stay that way for many hours - but its hardly sticky wetaher. Sure the most uncomfortable Capital city in Australia is Darwin (if we take the liberty of calling Darwin a capital) - for at least 6-7 months per year and Brisbane would follow - especoially in Summer and Autumn but as long as the term relative humidty is used - then its another achievement for Sydney. Don W > Weatherhead wrote: > > Hey all! > Last nite, while participating in a weekly trivia contest at the mean > fiddler in Sydney's North west, a question was asked about relative > humidity. The question was which two capital cities have the highest > average annual humidity? > I answered Darwin, and Brisbane, thinking that my weather knowledge > had once again came thru with the goods, but i was surprised to see, > that it is actually Sydney, and Darwin. Stagged with this wrong answer > i confronted the trivia master, who promptly pulled out a BOM weather > stats book and showed me my failings. > > Talking about this on IRC with Ben Quinn, he then expanded my brain, > by telling me that warmer air hold more moisture, and that Brisbane > has a higher average maximum temperature than Sydney, and therefore > would actually be more humid. Some of the figures Ben got from Climate > of Australia book, that at 3pm Darwin has a average RH of 54%, > Brisbane 53%, and Sydney 57%, and at 9am Darwin has 73%, Brisbane has > 66% and Sydney has 68%(these are average annual figures). > > So what is everyone's thoughts, should temps be brought into > calculation? do these figures falsely represent the true nature of > humidity? what is the true nature of humidity?, and does this sound > like a promo for a Unsolved Mysteries show? > Discussion please. > =) > > Daniel Weatherhead > ========================= > weatherhead at ozemail.com.au > ========================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:54:46 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty Dan
Relative humidity is not an absolute measure of humidity. It is a measure of moisture in the air relative to the maximum amount air of that temperature can hold. To compare humidity between places you need to use a measure of absolute humidity. There are several of these, (vapour pressure, dew point etc.). Once you understand this it comes as less of a surprise to learn that Hobart actually scores the highest annual relative humidity in the country.

Comparing a more absolute measure such as dew point sees Darwin win hands down. This also more accurately reflects the body's response to humidity as well. The cooling effect of evaporation is more tied to the vapour pressure of water in the air - and much less by the relative humidity. This is because the body is a constant temperature.

MH
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From: "Weatherhead" <weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>[BR] To: "aussieweather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>[BR] Subject: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:37

Hey all!
Last nite, while participating in a weekly trivia contest at the mean fiddler in Sydney's North west, a question was asked about relative humidity. The question was which two capital cities have the highest average annual humidity?
I answered Darwin, and Brisbane, thinking that my weather knowledge had once again came thru with the goods, but i was surprised to see, that it is actually Sydney, and Darwin. Stagged with this wrong answer i confronted the trivia master, who promptly pulled out a BOM weather stats book and showed me my failings.

Talking about this on IRC with Ben Quinn, he then expanded my brain, by telling me that warmer air hold more moisture, and that Brisbane has a higher average maximum temperature than Sydney, and therefore would actually be more humid. Some of the figures Ben got from Climate of Australia book, that at 3pm Darwin has a average RH of 54%, Brisbane 53%, and Sydney 57%, and at 9am Darwin has 73%, Brisbane has 66% and Sydney has 68%(these are average annual figures).

So what is everyone's thoughts, should temps be brought into calculation? do these figures falsely represent the true nature of humidity? what is the true nature of humidity?, and does this sound like a promo for a Unsolved Mysteries show?
Discussion please.
=)

Daniel Weatherhead
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weatherhead at ozemail.com.au <mailto:weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>
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007 From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au To: " - *aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:44:10 +0930 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Daniel & anors. Relative Humidity is just that - % of water in the air relative to the temperature of that air parcel - so realistically Temperature is already involved in that equation ( I hope thats the way I remember it :) It doesnt surprise me that Sydney is higher then Brisbane - although Sydneys mean temp would be lower, it has a more all year round rainfall and more abundant moisture supply from frontal activity etc etc then Brisbane. However qhat oftens confuses people about humidity is the comfort factor - Sydneys higher humidity is often less noticeable because of the lower temps that is assoc. with. Sydney often can have temps of early 20's with humidity of 80% or higher - esp with a nice moist SE'er - Southerly blowing - yet it can go unnoticed due to relative comfortability. Also those figures - are they year avergaes? I can tell you that humidity levels here are alot higher then those figures during the wet - eg at 9am temp was 28 with DP of 24 is about 85%. Hope this helps? Paul. weatherhead at ozemail.com.au at SMTP at world.std.com on 25/01/2000 10:13:06 AM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com at SMTP Sent by: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at SMTP cc: Subject: aus-wx: Battle of Relative Humidty Hey all! Last nite, while participating in a weekly trivia contest at the mean fiddler in Sydney's North west, a question was asked about relative humidity. The question was which two capital cities have the highest average annual humidity? I answered Darwin, and Brisbane, thinking that my weather knowledge had once again came thru with the goods, but i was surprised to see, that it is actually Sydney, and Darwin. Stagged with this wrong answer i confronted the trivia master, who promptly pulled out a BOM weather stats book and showed me my failings. Talking about this on IRC with Ben Quinn, he then expanded my brain, by telling me that warmer air hold more moisture, and that Brisbane has a higher average maximum temperature than Sydney, and therefore would actually be more humid. Some of the figures Ben got from Climate of Australia book, that at 3pm Darwin has a average RH of 54%, Brisbane 53%, and Sydney 57%, and at 9am Darwin has 73%, Brisbane has 66% and Sydney has 68%(these are average annual figures). So what is everyone's thoughts, should temps be brought into calculation? do these figures falsely represent the true nature of humidity? what is the true nature of humidity?, and does this sound like a promo for a Unsolved Mysteries show? Discussion please. =) Daniel Weatherhead ========================= weatherhead at ozemail.com.au ========================= 008 Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\FILE0001" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:29:30 -0800 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Its almost cold in Blackheath Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tuesday 25/1/00 We only reached 11.5 degrees at my place today. Now that's pretty chilly, even for here, in January. Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Change of address for web pages on my server To: orienteering at graphics.cornell.edu (O-net), aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:43:41 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Due to some major changes on our system, my web pages will be changing address over the next couple of days. It will probably take until Friday before the changeover is complete. I do not expect the old addresses to work for long after Thursday, but there will be a message redirecting users to the new site. All existing addresses of the form: http://mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au:8080/home/blair/..... will now have the form: http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair/.... Specific new addresses: Extreme temperature events in Australia: http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair/extremes/extpage.html Orienteering pages: http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair/orienteering/opage.html Victorian orienteering page: http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair/orienteering/vicopage.html Australian elections pages: http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~blair/elections/elections.html My e-mail address will also change (see below) but the old address should continue to work for some time yet. Please update your links and bookmarks accordingly. (Depending on how many of my lists you are on, you may get multiple copies of this message). Blair Trewin blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au b.trewin at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 X-Sender: astroman at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:53:21 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Alice Radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Anyone had a look at Alice Springs Radar???? Local looks awesome!! to put it one way "mini-supercells" To me looks like there is a fair amount of dust being blown up that way at the moment, Could be the reason for the strange looks on Radar? oh BTW time stamp on Radar image is 7:10UTC on the 25/1/00 regards Andrew Wall South Australia. State representative for S.A. and N.T. Division of the Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage. South Australian Severe Weather page - http://sastorms.virtualave.net ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Alice Springs radar Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:20:13 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id DAA05815 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I suspect the many dark red blobs on the Alice Springs local radar image are dust storms rather than huge shafts of hail. (Sorry Jimmy) There's been comment on the list previously about similar images from Giles radar. The 03z and 06z satpix show a rapidly developing area of storms around Giles and eastwards to the Alice along the trough and in the cloudfree but very humid air north of the cloudmass covering most of southern Australia. Dewpoints in the area are around 18 to 20C, and CAPE at Giles this morning was ~2000. -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather News & Links http://ausweather.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Looking wet for NSW/Vic Wed and Thurs Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:41:23 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id DAA07232 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Recent model runs seem to be increasing the amount of rain expected from the trough system moving through NSW and Vic tomorrow and into Thursday. All are in fair agreement, bringing the trough through Sydney late Thurs morning, but vary considerably in where and when surface lows develop in the trough, and where the main focus of rain will be. The latest (00z) GASP develops the surface low over NE SA and brings it SE through central NSW, deepening to around 1000hPa as it gets to the coast, with 50 to 100mm over much of the eastern half of the state. LAPS takes it SE through W Vic, with the heavier rain in S NSW and E Vic. The 00z AVN and NOGAPS don't develop much of a surface low until the trough arrives in eastern Bass Strait. All agree on the main low developing east of Bass Strait Thursday morning. -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather News & Links http://ausweather.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:17:56 -0800 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: USA Winter? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey, anyone got more info on the USA weather, particularly their apparent cold snap (according to the news) that reached the more southern states? Heard they had some unusual snow/ice storms down south. Leslie R. Lemon? Others? Hope I haven't gone too far off the Aussie-wx track with this USA enquiry... Lindsay Pearce +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:03:12 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter? From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Lindsay Try www.weather.com MH _____________________________________________________ Mark Hardy. Weather 21 Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060 Ph (02) 9955 7704. Fax (02) 9955 1536. email: markh at weather21.com.au _____________________________________________________ ---------- >From: Lindsay >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: USA Winter? >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:17 > > Hey, anyone got more info on the USA weather, particularly their > apparent cold snap (according to the news) that reached the more > southern states? Heard they had some unusual snow/ice storms down south. > > Leslie R. Lemon? Others? > > > Hope I haven't gone too far off the Aussie-wx track with this USA > enquiry... > > > Lindsay Pearce > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:13:21 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Alice Springs radar From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Winds in the area have not really been strong enough to raise enough dust to cause such significant echoes. Also, the pattern was not really consistent with dust storms, too many and too small. Dust storms tend to line up along a major wind shift. The cells do match up well with the satellite imagery so I can only suspect that it is picking up the storms but perhaps there is a problem mapping the colour scale to the dBZ levels. Mark Hardy, TWC ---------- >From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Alice Springs radar >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:20 > > I suspect the many dark red blobs on the Alice Springs local radar > image are dust storms rather than huge shafts of hail. (Sorry Jimmy) > There's been comment on the list previously about similar images from > Giles radar. The 03z and 06z satpix show a rapidly developing area of > storms around Giles and eastwards to the Alice along the trough and in > the cloudfree but very humid air north of the cloudmass covering most > of southern Australia. Dewpoints in the area are around 18 to 20C, and > CAPE at Giles this morning was ~2000. > > > -- > Laurier Williams > Australian Weather News & Links > http://ausweather.simplenet.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------