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001 Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net] Melbourne Webcam Chase
002 Harald Richter [hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa USA Winter? (fwd)
003 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] TC Kirrily Map Animation.
004 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Hail at Mulgoa & nothing in Illawarra
005 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] Hail at Mulgoa & nothing in Illawarra
006 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] CAPE
007 Soapy [soapyb at tig.com.au] USA Winter?
008 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Trough System
009 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] Trough System
010 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] TC Kirrily, Low Banda Sea, Low N Coral Sea
011 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Waterspout ..... !!!!!!!!
012 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Waterspout ..... !!!!!!!!
013 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] TC Kirrily map animation updated
014 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Waterspout ..... !!!!!!!!
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001
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:40:49 +0000
From: Les Crossan [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Ok everyone....
If I get asked where the prongs are once more I'll bl**dy scream (:
Frame 1: scuddy lowering top right, *not* a funnel AFAIK but suspicious
IMHO.
Frame 2: Prong on horizon below "11:27:02" - three minutes later this
was a funnel 500 metres of the ground at St. Kilda.
Frame 3: Prong on horizon below and just to right of "-2000" -
threee minutes later this was another funnel!
Frame 4: Nice little lowering to the top right.
Les (UK)
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002
From: Harald Richter [hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter? (fwd)
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Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:49:45 -0600 (CST)
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Hi all,
> "Leslie R. Lemon" wrote:
> >
> > Snow has been seen at Miami, Fl. Temps in mid FL have been in the low
> > teens and singel digets in the panhandel.
>
> Wow!! I never knew this! I've always considered Miami warmer than
> Brisbane, generally because most of it is surrounded by ocean. But
> Brisbane has never seen snow.
Snow is being seen in Norman (Oklahoma) (35 degrees N). "They" say 6+9=15 inches
of real snow fell over the past 2 days. Using envelope technology
(on the way back from my mailbox) I measured ~8 inches (20 cm) last
night. Further south there was a prediction for
"Thundersnow" yesterday (Thursday). Even further south they
might have had rotating storms + a tornado watch.
The setup is: Oklahoma sits under a blob (technical term) of
cold air courtesy of the Canadian landmass. The Gulf of Mexico
is refusing to freeze over and thus set up a strong temperature
gradient allowing a developing low to feed of it.
The circulation of the aforementioned low steered warm humid air
(coutesy GOM, NOT BOM) over the cold blob ... the rest is real weather.
The relevance of all this for ASWA: - none -; except
a recommendation: extend the Gulf of Carpenteria further
south (source of warm moist air and warm moist crocs),
and use the soil so obtained to connect Tasmania with
Antarctica (source of cold 'blobs').
Ciao for now, Harald
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Subject: aus-wx: TC Kirrily Map Animation.
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Hi All.
I have started a TC Kirrily (09S) map animation using JTWC information.
I would prefer to use BoM information, but I know from the experience of
animating TC's Ilsa and John that the wind distribution information in BoM
shipping warnings is sometimes inconsistant, wheras JTWC uses a consistant
set of wind distribution zones, thus ensuring consistancy in the animation
(and saves me a lot of guesswork filling in the missing bits).
This in no way detracts from the quality of the BoM shipping warnings,
which are adequate for their stated purpose, it would simply be more
convenient for me if they adopted a standardised set of wind distribution
zones in their format.
You can find it on my website at
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/KirrilyAnim.htm.
Also, I have removed the TC John and TC Ilsa map animations to free up
server space, however you can still find them via links to other servers on
my website at http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/current.htm below the
current cyclone warning links.
Regards,
Carl.
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail at Mulgoa & nothing in Illawarra
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 09:18:56 +1100
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...and I hardly have to tell you that everything over the last week has
missed my area. In fact I would say <2mm. Don't just take my word for it,
the BOM weekly rainfall map even has the sad picture.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/weekc.shtml
Michael
> Yes great stuff Daniel!!
>
> It seems that the cold air we had observed dumping hail in areas near
> Goulbourn yesterday has moved over Sydney and further north today. Today
> was a classic example of a spring or autumn situation with cold air aloft.
> The cumulus developed fairly widespread. Then the odd larger isolated
> cumulus began to break through. These were quite shallow but with the
> temperatures of around -16 or lower at 500 hPa, hail is still possible.
> This is the reason that the Mid - North Coast has had a severe advice put
> out: more available moisture and surface heating with the trough line now
> marked in on the synoptic chart providing the trigger. Still, the storms
> there did not reach massive heights - well it seems like that based on the
> satpics. Perhaps the odd cells went higher.
>
> By the way, yesterday was a bit frustrating. We could see the storms the
> south and some were quite spectacular and due to the cold air producing
> hail. But the road network and the time made it unfeasible to chase these
> storms. We have some photos and brief video of the cells that developed to
> the south and some over the mountains.
> What Mario and I found quite interesting was that you could see based on
> the scud at the cumulus bases that the wind was changing and gradually
> penetrating inland. It reached Bathurst during the evening whilst the wind
> change had reached the coastal and Sydney suburbs many hours earlier!!
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 20:45 28/01/00 +1100, you wrote:
> >Daniel Weatherhead just rang me to report 1cm hail, possible larger at
> >Mulgoa (foot of the blue mountains in Sydney), he was in the area and saw
a
> >nice dark base and went for it, and it opened up on him.. gotta love that
:D
> >
> >Matt Smith
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail at Mulgoa & nothing in Illawarra
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:50:05 +1100
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Oh well there is always February??
Looking at the rainfall map confirmed my impression that Wednesday's event
was an E-W shaped tongue rather than a blanket event across NSW. Canberra is
now up to around 70% of our monthly average (where it is likely to stay).
Looking at the % rainfall to date for January across the country shows that
most of the eastern two-thirds of the country has received well below
average rainfall.
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/pmontha.shtml
The massive exception is the the southern half of WA.
Patrick
From: Michael Thompson [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Saturday, 29 January 2000 9:24
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail at Mulgoa & nothing in Illawarra
>...and I hardly have to tell you that everything over the last week has
>missed my area. In fact I would say <2mm. Don't just take my word for it,
>the BOM weekly rainfall map even has the sad picture.
>
>http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/rainmaps/weekc.shtml
>
>Michael
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: CAPE
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:06:34 +1100
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Hi Dean
I like to make corny analogies, I liken CAPE to petrol in your cars tank.
The more of you have the more you do with it. However your car still needs a
motor and inigition ( lifting mechanism ) to do anything. Quite often
however somebody has the garage door well and truly locked ( CAP ), to get
out you need to rev harder ( more Li and CAPE ) and explode out in a voilent
way.
Michael
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Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 11:02:09 +1100
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It would've been December 1993 (ie 2 weeks before Sydney Bushfires of Jan
1994). Bendigo on Boxing Day was rainy all day with Gale Force SW from deep low
in Bass Strait. Afternoon max temp was 10 deg C to 3 pm, but I think it cleared
and got a few degrees warmer that evening. I was in Lithgow a day or so later
and I can recall the local TV news showing snow falling on Mt Canobolas.
Victoria had SW wind for the next 2 weeks (NSW had WNW winds which explains the
bushfires).
Richard
Lyle Pakula wrote:
> Hey Lindsay,
>
> I know last year, it snowed on Chirstmas Day, not to such low levels but it
> was a significant fall (>10cm). I can't remember the previous day's temps
> but, from memory, they were in the 30's around Mansfield, Vic. Someone could
> probably give you more precise details on this event.
>
> Cheers,
> Lyle
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lindsay [mailto:writer at lisp.com.au]
> > Sent: Friday, 28 January 2000 2:25
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter?
> >
> >
> > Great post Blair. What an amazing contrast, a max of 34 C then snow! I
> > was talking to a bloke at Oberon (stopped there on our trip south for
> > holidays, I often try and dig out a weather story from a
> > local) and this
> > guy at the supermarket said that they had snow on Christmas day/Boxing
> > day and it had been very mild just before hand. Don't know the exact
> > year (in the nineties, but he couldn't remember the year) or
> > indeed the
> > temp contrasts at the time.
> >
> > Do you have any records of a cold snap in the nineties around
> > Christmas
> > for Oberon? Or indeed other decades?
> >
> >
> > Lindsay P.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> > > did!). Denver is also famous for late- and early-season snowfalls
> > > (I was there to see one on 12 September 1993, the day after a max of
> > > 34 C), but even there July and August are snow-free.
> > >
> > > Blair Trewin
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:48:54 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,
I have done a report on the trough system that has swept through
Australia over the past week or so, you can find it at:
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/recentevents.htm
This system caused flooding in 3 different states, and also produced
some lumpy falls in both Queensland and New South Wales.. there are 3
different 7 day loops there (Sat pic loop, MSLP Loop and a rainfall
loop) - plus much more information..
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Trough System
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:20:36 +1100
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Thanks Ben - interesting report and nice loops.
Patrick
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From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Date: Saturday, 29 January 2000 11:55
Subject: aus-wx: Trough System
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I have done a report on the trough system that has swept through
>Australia over the past week or so, you can find it at:
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/recentevents.htm
>
>This system caused flooding in 3 different states, and also produced
>some lumpy falls in both Queensland and New South Wales.. there are 3
>different 7 day loops there (Sat pic loop, MSLP Loop and a rainfall
>loop) - plus much more information..
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Subject: aus-wx: TC Kirrily, Low Banda Sea, Low N Coral Sea
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Hi All.
The Kirrily map animation at
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/KirrilyAnim.htm has been updated with this
mornings JTWC info, and will be updated again later tonight.
According to the BoM, TC Kirrily has intensified a little, there is a
Tropical Low in the Banda Sea NNW of Darwin, and another in the N Coral Sea
- links to latest BoM information on my website at
http://www.ace-net.com.au/!carls/current.htm.
Regards,
Carl.
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:21:48 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: Waterspout ..... !!!!!!!!
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Hi Everyone,
I have put up a report on a waterspout that i photographed today in
Deception Bay, north of Brisbane..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/reports/2000/january/waterspout/index.htm
It wasn't the most spectacular Waterspout! But a waterspout none the
less.. pity i don't have a zoom on my digi cam - i could have zoomed
right in and got much much better pictures..
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Waterspout ..... !!!!!!!!
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:58:11 +1100
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>I have put up a report on a waterspout that i photographed today in
>Deception Bay, north of Brisbane.. It wasn't the most spectacular
Waterspout! But a waterspout none the
>less..
Now this you must admit is getting pretty significant - November 22 in
Queensland, December 4 in NSW, January 9 in Victoria & now January 29 in
Queensland - funnels, F0's or waterspouts - I get the feeling that ASWA &
aussie-weather mail list members' sightings might create a significant
upward glitch in the historical records!!!
Jane
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
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Subject: aus-wx: TC Kirrily map animation updated
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Hi All.
The Kirrily map animation at
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/KirrilyAnim.htm has been updated with JTWC
warning #05.
I have added the 13 NM eye feature mentioned in the JTWC warning.
Next update will be tommorow.
Regards,
Carl.
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Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:50:11 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Jane, everyone..
Yep! - plus the November 8 Cedar Pocker nader (in QLD) - that would
never have been dubbed a Tornado unless Anthony Cornelius and myself
surveyed the damaged on behalf of ASWA for the Damage Assessment
Program, and concluded that it was a Tornado that caused the damage!!
We also have a Brisbane ASWA member that travels north to central and
northern QLD quite often (it seems) - i have had 2 emails from him in as
many weeks describing HUGE storms - on one day he even reported several
wall clouds and protrusions.. i don't think he has a camera though! I
think i might have to give him one of mine :P
Now all we need is a few more members through inland QLD (not sure how
many we have?) to photograph and report on those huge storms we always
see on the sat pics!
Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> >I have put up a report on a waterspout that i photographed today in
> >Deception Bay, north of Brisbane.. It wasn't the most spectacular
> Waterspout! But a waterspout none the
> >less..
>
> Now this you must admit is getting pretty significant - November 22 in
> Queensland, December 4 in NSW, January 9 in Victoria & now January 29 in
> Queensland - funnels, F0's or waterspouts - I get the feeling that ASWA &
> aussie-weather mail list members' sightings might create a significant
> upward glitch in the historical records!!!
>
> Jane
>
> Jane ONeill
> ASWA - Victoria
> Email: cadence at rubix.net.au
> Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
> Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA Inc.)
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
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