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001 Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au] WA STA still Current.
002 Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au] Perth Storms ? and WA STA
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] SE QLD Storm Chase Report
004 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] TC Kirrily map animation updated
005 "Mac Hill" [mac_hill at hotmail.com] SE QLD Storm Chase Report
006 "Dr David Jones" [d.jones at bom.gov.au] paid to be wrong.
007 "James Harris" [jimbohar at hotmail.com] Perth Storms ? and WA STA
008 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] paid to be wrong.
009 Kevin Phyland [kjphyland at techemail.com] Archives (again...)
010 Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au] Very hot in SE Australia later in week
011 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Very hot in SE Australia later in week
012 Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au] An interesting weekend!
013 Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au] USA Winter?
014 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Re Summer Snow on Cent. Tablelands
015 Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au] USA Winter?
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Very hot in SE Australia later in week
017 "James Pickett" [juxie_69 at hotmail.com] Very hot in SE Australia later in week
018 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Clarification on the Alice Springs radar problem as reported
019 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Severe TS at Berrimah
020 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Kilsyth obs January 2000
021 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] January Maximum temp obs for Adelaide
022 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Severe TS at Berrimah
023 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Severe TS at Berrimah
024 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Severe TS at Berrimah
025 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Severe TS at Berrimah
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001
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:01:31 +0800
From: Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au]
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 8:00 pm WST on Sunday, 30 January 2000
People in the Lower West, Central West, Central Wheatbelt and Great
Southern
Districts, are advised that there is a risk of severe thunderstorms
this
evening.
Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that
could
result in damage to property.
The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout
for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vechicles
under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving
conditions may be
hazardous.
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:57:19 +0800
From: Mark Dwyer [mjd at wantree.com.au]
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James,
It was totally Awesome the way this thing devloped right behind the WACA
ground we were watching it allday, with the cricket aswell, Just before
the Rain hit the Waca, it was just Alto Cu to the N-NW starting to go up then,
30-40 min's later totally different story, got real nice pic's of it will post
them when the Film is developed. Btw we had a temp at 1Pm ( ABC radio
Comentery ) 36.6C 43% Relative Humidity. Btw the cricket was a good game bring
on the finals, lol.
MJ.
James Harris wrote:
> And also Channel 10 has the Golf live from Perth on also. Just showed a
> beutiful shot of the storm with a nice looking gust front and two CGs
> shooting out of it. Looking very nice and very very dark
>
> >From: "James Harris"
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> >Subject: aus-wx: Perth Storms ? and WA STA
> >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:54 EST
> >
> >Hey All,
> >
> >Been watching the cricket this afternoon when they cut to a shot of what
> >appeared to be a very nice looking cell to the North of Perth. Certainly
> >looked very clear and well defined. A nice looking updraught at the back
> >also.
> >Looking at radar it is in the green and heading south towards the ground.
> >Not too sure if it will hit , but I wouldnt mind it so Channel 9 can show
> >some more footage of it !!!
> >
> >Also there is a STA for WA out that includes the perth hills area .
> >
> >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> >WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> >
> >PRIORITY
> >FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
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> >SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> >Issued at 2:05 pm WST on Sunday, 30 January 2000
> >
> >People in the Lower West, Central West and Central Wheatbelt Districts,
> >including the hills area of Perth, are advised that there is a risk of
> >severe
> >thunderstorms this afternoon.
> >
> >Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that
> >could
> >result in damage to property.
> >
> >
> >Later,
> >
> >James
> >
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003
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:45:13 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
While there are a plethora of other things that were probably more
important for me to do - I decided to get this chase report put together
(excuse any mistakes, I'm rather tired!)
Hopefully get some photos ASAP, but I think you'll be able to gather by
the report that there won't be many!
I had been keeping my eye on Sunday the 30th of January for a few days,
noticing that a surface trough just west of SE QLD and an upper level
trough could possibly make things interesting. Unfortunately, on
Saturday due to hardware failure, I was unable to make a final opinion
on the situation! Fortunately, I was able to repair the problem late on
Sunday morning thanks to a computer store actually being open!
The sky had appeared somewhat "junky" most of the morning, with a lot of
large Cu and weak congestus about. A fairly strong looking cell caught
my eye out in Moreton Bay, but this did not do much and soon weakened.
It was now midday, and the day was progressively looking more promising,
with patches of castellatus also throwing some promise. Large congestus
showers were both visible on radar and visually. By 2pm, it was too
much for me - I decided to go down to the park and get a better view of
things. While driving to the park, I decided I'd be better off going to
the Sunnybank Shopping Plaza car park as I'd be able to see if there was
anything worth chasing near the Beaudesert area (50km south of Brisbane
- situated just north of the foothills of the border ranges). I noticed
several lines of congestus, with some promising congestus to my SSW. I
also noticed some development to m west, which eventually formed a small
anvil.
It was now 2:30pm, and it wasn't looking too promising for Brisbane! I
decided that if I was to get any storms at all today, I'd have to travel
out west along the Warrego Highway, or take the Mt. Lindsey Highway to
Beaudesert. I phoned Andrew McDonald, who confirmed my suspicions -
quite a good scattering of showers/cells near the border ranges. It was
this point I decided that I would want to avoid the border ranges, and
head west for sunnier skies with some weaker congestus progressively
getting stronger, and the one small Cb. The reason I decided on this
was because it appeared as if it was going to get very cluttered around
the ranges, with many convective cells fighting for the same 'food' -
even if a nice cell did form, photo opportunities would have been few
and far between given the amount of low level cloud and congestus
around.
I took Kessels Rd onto the Ipswich Motorway which eventually became the
Warrego Highway - I had a good view of two cells that were starting to
do quite nicely to my west. The original cell I saw appeared stronger,
and larger - but I wasn't sure if it was because I was getting closer to
it! But the anvil started to take on a more defined shape to it, rather
than a diffuse glaciated appearance. The other cell to my WNW looked
like it was continuing to pulse, with a weak anvil but strong updrafts
temporarily making the anvil look quite nice. This cell was quite
photogenic, but there wasn't much of an opportunity to stop and take
photos! Static on radio by now was starting to get noticeably more
frequent, with only a couple of seconds maximum between discharges. One
cell near Beaudesert caught my eye - it appeared to possibly be a severe
hailstorm from my view of it, but it only showed a large degree of
strength for about fifteen minutes.
I continued west, this cell that I originally saw from Sunnybank was
still strengthening (but slowly!) Soon it was quite well organised,
with a well defined RFB. A small rain foot that would soon become a
semi-permanent feature of this storm was also present. I was near
Plainland, and decided to continue west along the Warrego. While
getting back onto the Warrego I noticed a nice lowering under the RFB, I
sped off towards this and watched it continually grow. It soon became a
prominent lowered base, quite nice! The storm was still evolving, I
noticed the outflow region was beginning to become more structured - and
the lowering took on a nice round shape... I took the Gatton Bypass
(bad mistake!), much of the road was now covered with trees! The
lowering had grabbed my attention, it was looking rather suspicious!
Just when I was about to get my video camera out and attempt filming
through the trees, what should happen? I got stuck behind a police
car!!! I decided it would not be a very intelligent move to try and
video tape while driving behind a police car, nor to overtake a police
car doing 108km/h! I was stuck...and I was stuck for a long time with
the bypass not having an exits for 20km! I was kicking myself - but
there was nothing I could except enjoy the show...I noticed inflow
coming in from the SE, what I would liken to a beaver tail, the entire
base (not just the lowered base) had taken on a very well rounded
structure. It was rotating!!!!! Not for long, or at least - not very
strong for long. It soon became shrouded in rain! Soon after, I found
a clear patch and I was able to quickly pull off the road and try and
get some video footage, this of course did not do it justice. I decided
to continue heading west - at this stage I was getting a few spits on my
windscreen. I wanted to head north as soon as possible, but I wasn't
sure if it was possible because of a limited road network.
I was now on a non-stop, one way ticket into core punching! Another
thing I would soon end up kicking myself for, I'm not keen on core
punching storms that are well organised and have some fairly reasonable
structure. There was no way out of it though - I encountered some light
rain at first, this wasn't too bad, but there was a lot of water on the
side of the road that grabbed my attention. I continued on and very
soon came to moderate rain, but the highway was nearly covered with a
'glaze' of water!!! The sides of the highway were completely full of
water, and it was streaming out onto the highways, before I knew it -
myself, and many others cars began to commence aqua-planing over
areas!!! I slowed down as quickly as I could without adding to the
situation, I was soon down to 40km/h - just in time! The rain had now
become torrential, even rain-ex and the wipers on maximum couldn't help
visibility! What made it worse, was the drops were huge! Hail was a
possibility, fortunately I didn't encounter any hail. Before I knew it,
I was out of the heaviest rain (thankfully!), I saw a road that went
north, I quickly took it, and very soon found debris across the road!
Some branches had fallen across the road, and water was streaming across
the road at several sections. I believe it was much higher initially,
as a lot of the grass was leaning over quite significantly. A few trees
were also down, one had fallen onto the road! Lots of leaves/twigs were
strewn over the road. One of the bridges had gone underwater, only just
though! The storms were moving slowly, so flash flooding was going to
be possibly hazard to the public. I phoned the BoM reporting the
flooding and damage, but was rather dismayed to find that not even an
advice warning of possible flash flooding could be expected by the slow
moving thunderstorms!
There was no point in traveling further north with the cell, as there
was no way I would ever be able to go around it to get in front of it,
only through it! With some useful information from both Andrew McDonald
and Jane ONeill (both ASWA Victoria), I decided that I'd wait and see
what the cells to my south that were coming off the border ranges would
do. Apparently, a few had 'strayed' out into more favorable chasing
territory, and I was curious to see what they would do as they
encountered sunny skies (the storms had passed to the north of the
Warrego Highway by now), and fed on the steamy ground. There was some
fairly spectacular Cb go up just to my south, very hard updrafts!!! I
got quite excited, but they were just not moving fast enough, and could
not maintain themselves properly. The next hour or so (it was now about
5pm), was generally taken up by watching the Cb's shoot up, and then
weaken before dissipating. I was wondering if a new 'generation' of
Cb's would go up - ie, normally development occurs in stages, and often
quite a few Cb's will go up first before more sustaining Cb's occurred.
I was very interested to see that this is what appeared to have
happened! For about half an hour, development was going up, and then
weakening out. And then a few more sustained cells developed. It was
now near 6pm, and I was rather hungry given I had not even had lunch
yet! I had McDonald's near Gatton, and then parked myself on the road
between Gatton and Laidley watching a very slow moving cell give some
fairly impressive structure. I'm not sure what people thought of me
though - I pulled out the portable chair, had my SLR and video camera to
my left, I had a McDonald's take-away bag on my right, while eating a
cheeseburger - all beside my car with the doors open and the AM radio on
loudly to hear the static. I had one couple pull up and ask if I was
OK!
After watching a glorious sunset, I decided to call it a day as the last
cell appeared to begin to weaken. Quite a nice storm chase given the
relatively cool surface temperature and DP's (DP's in the high teens,
temps in the high 20's). Possibly the best two lessons from this chase
was:
1) Check the map thoroughly! Ensure that you can get off the road
you're currently on if you need to.
2) I will seriously investigate getting a camera mount on my car - this
way it'll be much easier to take video footage while driving - which
appears to be the times when you get the best pictures!!!
Thanks very much to Andrew McDonald and Jane ONeill for their extremely
helpful updates! It was very much appreciated :-)
--
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:54:15 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: TC Kirrily map animation updated
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Hi All.
The TC Kirrily map animation at
http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/KirrilyAnim.htm has been updated with JTWC
warning #07.
Regards,
Carl.
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Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia.
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 02:17:05 EST
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Hi all,
I am new to this aussie-weather. My name is Wilson. I like storms/hails
activities and I usually take pictures of some storms pics (unfortunately, I
haven't got a scanner at home) :(
Refer. to Anthony's report--- Well I wish I was there with you today, coz I
was dying to see some supercells, storms or hails and take pics of them..
what I did to my car is ... I fixed my V-cam in front of my car (inside of
course) and I can capture all the weather view wiile I am driving.
>From WILSON =^o^=
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From: "Dr David Jones" [d.jones at bom.gov.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: paid to be wrong.
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:22:52 +1000
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>The NWS is being raked over the coals!! Believe me! LOL... There is open
>season on weather folks year around! After all, what other profession is
>there where they pay you to be wrong!! [S]
>
>Les
Try politician or economic forecaster! it seems the more wrong they are, the
more powerful and respected they become... sorry couldn't help it.
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Hey Mark, and all
Well all I can say is that I wish I was there !!! I mean what more could you
ask for......Great game of cricket followed by a spectaculour CB. Sounds
like the perfect day.
Lets hope we go well on Wednesday nights 1st final.
Cant wait to see your pics when they are up Mark. Certainly from what I saw
on TV theyre will be some impressive shots !!!
James H
>From: Mark Dwyer
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Perth Storms ? and WA STA
>Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:57:19 +0800
>
>James,
> It was totally Awesome the way this thing devloped right behind the
>WACA
>ground we were watching it allday, with the cricket aswell, Just before
>the Rain hit the Waca, it was just Alto Cu to the N-NW starting to go up
>then,
>30-40 min's later totally different story, got real nice pic's of it will
>post
>them when the Film is developed. Btw we had a temp at 1Pm ( ABC radio
>Comentery ) 36.6C 43% Relative Humidity. Btw the cricket was a good game
>bring
>on the finals, lol.
>
>MJ.
>
>James Harris wrote:
>
> > And also Channel 10 has the Golf live from Perth on also. Just showed a
> > beutiful shot of the storm with a nice looking gust front and two CGs
> > shooting out of it. Looking very nice and very very dark
> >
> > >From: "James Harris"
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Perth Storms ? and WA STA
> > >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:56:54 EST
> > >
> > >Hey All,
> > >
> > >Been watching the cricket this afternoon when they cut to a shot of
>what
> > >appeared to be a very nice looking cell to the North of Perth.
>Certainly
> > >looked very clear and well defined. A nice looking updraught at the
>back
> > >also.
> > >Looking at radar it is in the green and heading south towards the
>ground.
> > >Not too sure if it will hit , but I wouldnt mind it so Channel 9 can
>show
> > >some more footage of it !!!
> > >
> > >Also there is a STA for WA out that includes the perth hills area .
> > >
> > >BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> > >WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> > >
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> > >
> > >SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
> > >Issued at 2:05 pm WST on Sunday, 30 January 2000
> > >
> > >People in the Lower West, Central West and Central Wheatbelt Districts,
> > >including the hills area of Perth, are advised that there is a risk of
> > >severe
> > >thunderstorms this afternoon.
> > >
> > >Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that
> > >could
> > >result in damage to property.
> > >
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >
> > >James
> > >
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:57:30 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: aus-wx: paid to be wrong.
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David:
> Try politician or economic forecaster! it seems the more wrong they are,
the
> more powerful and respected they become... sorry couldn't help it.
Or try the politician that is paid to lie!!!........such a Clinton!! Never
trust a word the man says!
Les
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After having a serious attack of HTML I think I've made my archive site more user-friendly.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Very hot in SE Australia later in week
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Both ECMWF and GASP models have some very hot weather in store for
south-eastern Australia later in the week; the EC has a thickness of
581 for Melbourne on Friday night, and GASP isn't too far behind.
Unless there is significant cloud cover I'd be quite surprised if we
didn't see 40 on Friday, and 42-43 is not out of the question.
With the present timing of the change the seriously high temperatures
might well end up being in Gippsland on Saturday.
(Melbourne's February record of 43.2 - set on the day of the 1983
duststorm - is quite soft, especially when compared with 45.6 in
January).
Inland looks hot right through the week from tomorrow onwards -
Canberra's relatively cool summer should come to a screaming halt,
with several successive days of mid-upper 30s likely.
Blair Trewin
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Fantastic Blair !! Im sick of these mild mid 20 days here in sydney.. bring
on summer!!!
>Both ECMWF and GASP models have some very hot weather in store for
>south-eastern Australia later in the week; the EC has a thickness of
>581 for Melbourne on Friday night, and GASP isn't too far behind.
>Unless there is significant cloud cover I'd be quite surprised if we
>didn't see 40 on Friday, and 42-43 is not out of the question.
>With the present timing of the change the seriously high temperatures
>might well end up being in Gippsland on Saturday.
>
>(Melbourne's February record of 43.2 - set on the day of the 1983
>duststorm - is quite soft, especially when compared with 45.6 in
>January).
>
>Inland looks hot right through the week from tomorrow onwards -
>Canberra's relatively cool summer should come to a screaming halt,
>with several successive days of mid-upper 30s likely.
>
>Blair Trewin
>
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>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: An interesting weekend!
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> Blair Trewin wrote on Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:43:42 +1100 (EST):
> >
> > A very interesting weekend for Australian meteorological devotees!
> >
> > It looks as if a new Australian record low has been established for
> > January. Thredbo Village reported -8.0 yesterday, and Crackenback
> > -6.0 today. The Village report I regard with some scepticism, as it
> > is somewhat lower than others in favoured locations in the region
> > (-3.1 at Charlottes Pass - which got -5.4 today), but not enough to
> > dismiss it out of hand, especially as it is more sheltered from the
> > wind in that situation than Charlottes Pass is. The Crackenback
> > obs looks legitimate. Both readings would be below the existing
> > record of -5.6.
>
> Blair,
>
> I would be very reluctant to dismiss the Thredbo Village Obs
> though the dewpoint officially recorded does seem too high.
> I monitored the weather very closely while I was in Perisher
> Valley. There was a light wind aloft that would keep those
> "frost hollows" at higher elevations warmer than expected.
> If it was dead calm, then places like Charlottes Pass and
> Perisher Valley chill down more. A light wind aloft keeps
> Thredbo Village dead calm and much colder from my experience
> of the area. You'll notice this also occurs on occasion
> during the winter, particularly in the early and later
> parts of the season while limited or no snow lies on the
> ground.
The Thredbo Village site doesn't seem as cold as one might expect,
given the topography - perhaps because the screen is on quite steeply
sloping ground just up from the base of one of the chairlifts (looks
like Snowgums from the photos I've seen, but could be Crackenack).
I suspect a site right on the floor of the valley would give somewhat
lower values.
> For interests sake, Technology Lodge (1805m) recorded the
> following obs;
>
> ==========================================================
> Day/date/1500 Min Max Average Obs (to 3pm)
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> FRI 21/01/2000 +4.8 +10.4 W/NW at 15KT,3CLD,0MM
> SAT 22/01/2000 +1.5 +8.2 NW/W/SW at 15KT,4CLD,0MM
> SUN 23/01/2000 -3.5 +7.5 W/SW at 5-10KT,6CLD,0MM
> MON 24/01/2000 -5.0 +12.0 SW at 15KT,7CLD,0MM
> TUE 25/01/2000 +1.8 +11.5 SW/S/E/NE at 5KT,7CLD,0.5MM
> ==========================================================
>
> Temps are recorded by the air-condition intake duct that
> keeps records for a period as desired. It needs to do this
> in order to reduce or increase the number of heating
> elements operating. Outlet temperature cannot exceed 40C,
> so it is important to ensure that this is never exceded.
> Other obs are my own done manually and estimated by
> watching the clouds.
>
> My only challenge is that on SUN 23/01/2000, official
> obs for Perisher quote a max of 12.8 which could only
> have occured due to localise heating during a calmer
> period. There were large trucks going up and down the
> road less than 7m from the screen repairing water pipes
> just below Technology. We found this out after our
> water was cut off without warning. One can imagine
> that the hot air and exhaust from these trucks so
> close could have a localised adverse affect on the
> maximum temperature recorded.
Perisher didn't report on the Saturday or Sunday, so the max of 12.8
attributed to Sunday is probably a 72-hour maximum for the Friday-
Sunday period (which wouldn't be too far out of line with your
Friday observation).
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter?
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>
> [snip heaps]
>
> If you want the world's most stable weather with possible
> snow any time of year in the higher parts, just head off
> to Macquarie Island! Blair can correct me with a more
> precise quote but I've seen the range +2C to +7C in any
> season of the year. Rarely does it go below freezing,
> though I have seen a -4C and rarely does it go above +10C.
> Basically, it rains, drizzles or snows lightly almost
> every day of the year...Great weather for seals, sea birds
> and penguins, no doubt:-) Oh, I forgot, it's also windy...
>
Definitely a place with little seasonal variation!
Mean January max/min 8.7/5.3
Mean July max/min 4.9/1.6
Highest max on record 14.4
Lowest min on record -8.9
Number of days with min < 0 47.4/year
Mean annual precip 937mm
Mean annual number of days with precip 310(!)
Highest monthly rainfall 181mm
Highest daily rainfall 41mm
Lowest monthly rainfall 16mm
Mean annual number of clear days 2.6
The 23.3 degree extreme range isn't the lowest in the world (15 or so
is characteristic of near-equatorial island sites, and I believe there
is a site with an extreme range of about 12), but it's very low for
non-tropical latitudes. The only similar sites would be other
sub-Antarctic islands (e.g. off the coast of Chile, the Kerguelens
etc.) - sites at comparable latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere
have mostly recorded maxima in the low-mid 20s (e.g. 23.3 at
Lerwick (Shetland Islands)) and similar minima to Macquarie.
Blair Trewin
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Thanks Richard,
Here's hoping we get some decent cold weather this winter.
Lindsay P.
Soapy wrote:
>
> It would've been December 1993 (ie 2 weeks before Sydney Bushfires of Jan
> 1994). Bendigo on Boxing Day was rainy all day with Gale Force SW from deep low
> in Bass Strait. Afternoon max temp was 10 deg C to 3 pm, but I think it cleared
> and got a few degrees warmer that evening. I was in Lithgow a day or so later
> and I can recall the local TV news showing snow falling on Mt Canobolas.
> Victoria had SW wind for the next 2 weeks (NSW had WNW winds which explains the
> bushfires).
>
> Richard
>
> Lyle Pakula wrote:
>
> > Hey Lindsay,
> >
> > I know last year, it snowed on Chirstmas Day, not to such low levels but it
> > was a significant fall (>10cm). I can't remember the previous day's temps
> > but, from memory, they were in the 30's around Mansfield, Vic. Someone could
> > probably give you more precise details on this event.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Lyle
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lindsay [mailto:writer at lisp.com.au]
> > > Sent: Friday, 28 January 2000 2:25
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter?
> > >
> > >
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: USA Winter?
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>
> How far south has America (The USA) actually experienced snow at sea
> level or close to to it at least?
>
> Has Florida ever had snow? Into its southern parts?
>
>
> I've read a little about the Outbreaks of 09/1/76 and 23/12/89 and
> noticed that Florida reached 31 (F) during the '89 Outbreak. I wonder if
> that was on a cold, clear morning though?
>
>
1989 was the year I was in North America in late December and decided
to go to Winnipeg to make sure I got a white Christmas. This is known
as 'overkill' (although for a few brief hours on Christmas Eve it
was actually warmer in Winnipeg (+1 C) than it was in Miami (-1 C)).
I believe there was a little snow with the 1989 event, and also in
January 1977 - nothing settled, though. I don't know the exact
southern boundary of lying snow in Florida - at a guess, probably
near Orlando.
Miami has recorded -1 C, Orlando -7 (I think). The Florida state
record is -19 at Tallahassee (but northern Florida is really part
of the mainland south climatologically speaking - it's the fact that
Florida is a peninsula that keeps it warmer than it might otherwise
be most of the time - in most cold outbreaks (the present one included)
there isn't the precise trajectory needed for the flow to be over land
throughout).
Miami's January mean is something like max 24, min 18 - certainly
significantly warmer than Brisbane, or even Rockhampton.
Key West (lowest min +5) is the only station in the 48 states that
has never recorded a frost (of course, numerous Hawaiian stations
have extreme minima well above freezing).
Blair Trewin
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Very hot in SE Australia later in week
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 17:36:57 +1100
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I agree, but I hope the humidity does not plummet. Watching the golf and
cricket yesterday and it's not hard to work out why the Illawarra has had
only 3 storms since September. Perth's 36C vs Illawarra's 22-23C most days
this summer.
Michael
> Fantastic Blair !! Im sick of these mild mid 20 days here in sydney..
bring
> on summer!!!
>
>
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Please, Please. Although i am sure the Seabreeze will kill it, for Sydney
that is.
>From: Blair Trewin
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>Subject: aus-wx: Very hot in SE Australia later in week
>Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:59:46 +1100 (EST)
>
>Both ECMWF and GASP models have some very hot weather in store for
>south-eastern Australia later in the week; the EC has a thickness of
>581 for Melbourne on Friday night, and GASP isn't too far behind.
>Unless there is significant cloud cover I'd be quite surprised if we
>didn't see 40 on Friday, and 42-43 is not out of the question.
>With the present timing of the change the seriously high temperatures
>might well end up being in Gippsland on Saturday.
>
>(Melbourne's February record of 43.2 - set on the day of the 1983
>duststorm - is quite soft, especially when compared with 45.6 in
>January).
>
>Inland looks hot right through the week from tomorrow onwards -
>Canberra's relatively cool summer should come to a screaming halt,
>with several successive days of mid-upper 30s likely.
>
>Blair Trewin
>
>P.S. If you've been having trouble getting through to me, try
>resending to either:
>
>blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au
>
>or
>
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>
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Clarification on the Alice Springs radar problem as reported
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:34:03 +0930
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This is from Ian Shepherd of darwin BOM - head of the severe weather section.
"2. The Alice Springs radar image files that you included were 'unusual'
because the radar calibration was incorrectly set. For a period of about 1
week, the Alice Springs radar display system was overly sensitive so that
normally weak rain echoes (blue and yellow colours corresponding to rain
rates of less than 10 mm/h) were displayed as strong echoes more typical of
very heavy rain or hail (pink and red colours usually correspond to rain
rates greater than 40 mm/h).
The Alice Springs radar calibration has now been reset to a standard
setting and any future rain echoes should appear in the usual format.
3. There were no damage reports during the weekend, however, there have
been two severe thunderstorms recorded at the Yulara Airport automatic
weather station (AWS) - about 330 km west southwest of Alice Springs radar
- during January 2000:
On 15 January a wind gust of 68 knots (126 km/h) was recorded at the
Yulara
Airport AWS in a brief afternoon thunderstorm. The wet microburst caused
superficial damage to parked aircraft, felled trees and covered the runway
with sand, necessitating the use of mechanised sweepers. Power supplies and
security systems at the airport were damaged by lightning.
On 26 January an early evening multicell thunderstorm produced a
30-minute
period of strong to gale force winds with storm force gusts at Yulara
Airport. The maximum gust recorded at the AWS was 56 knots (104 km/h). 19
mm of rain fell in the storm but no damage was reported. Pea-sized hail was
reported on the same day in Alice Springs town."
Paul.
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From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au
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Subject: aus-wx: Severe TS at Berrimah
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:51:31 +0930
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Howdy all. On my way for my 1st damage assessment for the BOm re: severe storm
at berrimah this arvo.
Reports of large trees down and a huge mess out there - the Gardener rang the
BOM and asked why there was no warning!! hehehe. Might tell him about ASWA if
hes into weather!
Post more soon.
Paul.
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From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Kilsyth obs January 2000
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:01:55 +1100
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- Here are my observations for Kilsyth (outer eastern suburbs
Melbourne) for January.
- Ave Max 25.1c (25.6c)
- Ave Min 13.0c (13.8c)
- Rain 73.2mm (67.1mm)
- Rain days 12 (10)
- Highest Max 33.8c (18th)
- Lowest Max 17.0c (4th)
- Lowest Min 5.5c (24th)
- Days of Fog 0 (0.1)
- Days of Hail 0 (0.2)
- Days of Thunder 3 (3.1)
- long tem averages in Brackets
- Dane Newman
-
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Hey all,
I have completed one month of Maximum Temperature Observations for January,
including graph.
http://sastorms.virtualave.net/summary2000.html
Comeback for more Maximum temps for Feb.
By the way here are the expected temps for Adelaide in the next few days,
Next three days for Adelaide City :
Wednesday : Min 22 Max 35 Mostly sunny day.
Thursday : Min 20 Max 37 Mostly sunny day.
Friday : Min 27 Max 42 Partly cloudy.
regards..
Andrew Wall
South Australia.
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:19:23 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe TS at Berrimah
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Ok - just got back from the damage assessment.
All I can say is wowsers - heres the report.
2 20m approx trees snapped at bases.
2 10 - 15m trees blown over (roots exposed).
About 25 small - medium trees either snapped at bases or blown
over
About 100 medium branches everywhere (but interestingly not in
same locations...)
One arm size - baseball bat sized branch about 2 - 2.5 m long
branch impaled in a caravan!
Massive Localised flooding (water still flowing now - 3 hours later).
7 caravan annexes riped off.
One aluminium window awning 1/2 ripped off (that was observed -
though a worker says more).
Thing that interests me is - damage is not confined to a normal line
wind pattern. Damage occurred in places all over - in a narrow
corridor about 10 wide in like 3 places and about 500m long in
each BUT not all in a line - some trees faced north - south, others
opposite. And the caravan WASNT in the main damage area. The
branch was 2/3rds embedded in the caravan - and the occupants
had posted a nude girlie on it already! hehehe :)
The main person interview described normal microburst type winds
BUT the caravan occupants described different - they said it was
more "swirly and not happening everywhere" . I dunno about this
one. from looking at damage - Id say Force 10 / F0 - F1??
I have pics - they will be developed tomorrow. Hopefully I will get
them on the web.....
Paul.
On 31 Jan 00, at 16:51,
Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au wrote:
> Howdy all. On my way for my 1st damage assessment for the BOm re:
> severe storm at berrimah this arvo.
>
> Reports of large trees down and a huge mess out there - the Gardener
> rang the BOM and asked why there was no warning!! hehehe. Might tell
> him about ASWA if hes into weather!
>
> Post more soon.
>
> Paul.
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Thats great to hear Paul, did you ask around to see if anyone got some pics
of the event, maybe someone around there may have taken some snaps or
video???? I hope we can see a write up on the event, unfortunately, I
missed seeing it on radar :( I bet it looked awesome. :)
Look forward to the pics!!!!
regards
At 07:19 PM 31/01/00 +0930, you wrote:
>Ok - just got back from the damage assessment.
>
>All I can say is wowsers - heres the report.
>2 20m approx trees snapped at bases.
>2 10 - 15m trees blown over (roots exposed).
>About 25 small - medium trees either snapped at bases or blown
>over
>About 100 medium branches everywhere (but interestingly not in
>same locations...)
>One arm size - baseball bat sized branch about 2 - 2.5 m long
>branch impaled in a caravan!
>Massive Localised flooding (water still flowing now - 3 hours later).
>7 caravan annexes riped off.
>One aluminium window awning 1/2 ripped off (that was observed -
>though a worker says more).
>
>Thing that interests me is - damage is not confined to a normal line
>wind pattern. Damage occurred in places all over - in a narrow
>corridor about 10 wide in like 3 places and about 500m long in
>each BUT not all in a line - some trees faced north - south, others
>opposite. And the caravan WASNT in the main damage area. The
>branch was 2/3rds embedded in the caravan - and the occupants
>had posted a nude girlie on it already! hehehe :)
>
>The main person interview described normal microburst type winds
>BUT the caravan occupants described different - they said it was
>more "swirly and not happening everywhere" . I dunno about this
>one. from looking at damage - Id say Force 10 / F0 - F1??
>
>I have pics - they will be developed tomorrow. Hopefully I will get
>them on the web.....
>
>Paul.
>
>On 31 Jan 00, at 16:51,
>Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au wrote:
>
> > Howdy all. On my way for my 1st damage assessment for the BOm re:
> > severe storm at berrimah this arvo.
> >
> > Reports of large trees down and a huge mess out there - the Gardener
> > rang the BOM and asked why there was no warning!! hehehe. Might tell
> > him about ASWA if hes into weather!
> >
> > Post more soon.
> >
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South Australia.
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Weather Association Inc.
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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:08:55 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe TS at Berrimah
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Hi Andrew & others.
I asked about video, pics etc - they all said that they were either
too afraid or just awestruck!
Must have been a little ripper!
I will be writing a report up soon as I can get some further stuff from
the BOm - maybe even some Doppler radar images hopefully!
Rgds, Paul.
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe TS at Berrimah
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Great report Paul. Can't wait for the pics. In terms of the report from the
person, "swirly and not happening everywhere", one must be very careful as
I had some reports from people who observed the massive microburst in
Grafton a couple of years ago (200km/hr winds). They talked about tenticles
and swirling as well. Your judgement may well be correct of microburst damage.
Jimmy Deguara
At 19:19 31/01/00 +0930, you wrote:
>Ok - just got back from the damage assessment.
>
>All I can say is wowsers - heres the report.
>2 20m approx trees snapped at bases.
>2 10 - 15m trees blown over (roots exposed).
>About 25 small - medium trees either snapped at bases or blown
>over
>About 100 medium branches everywhere (but interestingly not in
>same locations...)
>One arm size - baseball bat sized branch about 2 - 2.5 m long
>branch impaled in a caravan!
>Massive Localised flooding (water still flowing now - 3 hours later).
>7 caravan annexes riped off.
>One aluminium window awning 1/2 ripped off (that was observed -
>though a worker says more).
>
>Thing that interests me is - damage is not confined to a normal line
>wind pattern. Damage occurred in places all over - in a narrow
>corridor about 10 wide in like 3 places and about 500m long in
>each BUT not all in a line - some trees faced north - south, others
>opposite. And the caravan WASNT in the main damage area. The
>branch was 2/3rds embedded in the caravan - and the occupants
>had posted a nude girlie on it already! hehehe :)
>
>The main person interview described normal microburst type winds
>BUT the caravan occupants described different - they said it was
>more "swirly and not happening everywhere" . I dunno about this
>one. from looking at damage - Id say Force 10 / F0 - F1??
>
>I have pics - they will be developed tomorrow. Hopefully I will get
>them on the web.....
>
>Paul.
>
>On 31 Jan 00, at 16:51,
>Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au wrote:
>
> > Howdy all. On my way for my 1st damage assessment for the BOm re:
> > severe storm at berrimah this arvo.
> >
> > Reports of large trees down and a huge mess out there - the Gardener
> > rang the BOM and asked why there was no warning!! hehehe. Might tell
> > him about ASWA if hes into weather!
> >
> > Post more soon.
> >
> > Paul.
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