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001 Greg Spencer [hawk at iinet.net.au] Photo Comp - FINALLY!!
002 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com] Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up! (fwd)
003 "Dr David Jones" [d.jones at bom.gov.au] Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up! (fwd)
004 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Submissions for the ASWA Calender
005 "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net] Submissions for the ASWA Calender
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Submissions for the ASWA Calender
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up!
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Heat in Sydney
009 "David Croan" [wxbustchase at hotmail.com] Submissions for the ASWA Calender
010 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Heat in Sydney
011 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up!
012 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] More storms, South of Adelaide
013 "Craig Geddes" [CRAIG.GEDDES at Warringah.nsw.go Total Fire Bans for info
014 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Submissions for the ASWA Calender
015 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] ASWA Calendar
016 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] ASWA NSW meeting final reminder
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001
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 21:42:56 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at iinet.net.au]
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Hi Everyone
After all the hastles I've had with emails not redirecting to me, my 2
jobs and TAFE, I finally have the latest photo comp up and running.
Please direct your browsers to the photo comp page and place your votes
:-)
Regards
Greg Spencer
Assistant Webmaster
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:57:23 -0500
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up! (fwd)
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Paul wrote:
> Isnt whoever (whatever you believe in) grand!!
How do I answer this? I am sorry, I don't understand your response.
Les
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From: "Dr David Jones" [d.jones at bom.gov.au]
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:20:02 +1000
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Michael Scollay wrote
>I must be extremely confused:-) Just what is the correct
>term that describes the evaporative potential of a given
>air mass in given conditions?
The term(s) you are looking for are "potential evaporation" or "potential
evapotransporation". Interestingly, the calculation of this quantity in
atmospheric models is typically based on transfer coefficient based on
windiness and convective stability multiplied by the difference between the
near surface specific humidity and its saturated equivalent.
Cheers,
DAJ
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 06:43:19 +0800
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From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Submissions for the ASWA Calender
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Hi everyone, well the time is nearly on hand to make selections for the
ASWA calender, to read the rules and stuff please go to
http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/aswacalender.html
I would like to encourage you all to enter as we need many different types
of pics. It is open to anyone including non- members. Initial submissions
are open untill the 29th of Febuary so please hurry.
Ira Fehlberg
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From: "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:37:18 -0000
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ira Fehlberg
> http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/aswacalender.html
Ira and list:
Please sent me the URL of your website - i've lost it in the changeover to
IE5!!!!
BTW for anyone who is interested - there's a rearward sloping anafront (cold
front) with upper level trough / high helicity passing across the UK
tomorrow - severe weather warnings are already being issued - I'll be
chasing it for a distance of several hundred miles, it's funnel / prong /
inches per hr / tornado time!!!
The mounting excitement can be read on uk.sci.weather (:
Les
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Les Crossan
Wallsend, Tyne & Wear, UK 54-59N 01-30W
UK Storm Chaser / Severe Weather Enthusiast
Melbourne Storm Chasers (MSC) - Victoria, AUS
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Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) - AUS
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Tornado and Storm Research Organisation (TORRO) - UK
Thunderstorm Census Organisation (TCO) - UK
http://www.torro.org.uk/
Email: les.NOSPAMcrossan at virgin.net (remove NOSPAM)
ICQ: 17296776
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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:23:40 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Ira and all,
Without trying to sound finicky, I don't think you can say lighting is
allowed, while saying "severe weather only" - because by definition,
lightning is not severe - or all thunderstorms would be severe. Yet on
the other hand, not allow snow/rainbows/sunsets etc. I believe you're
missing out on quite a few potential photos - basically, if the sunset
is that good, it'll beat the other storm photos anyway.
Ira Fehlberg wrote:
>
> Hi everyone, well the time is nearly on hand to make selections for the
> ASWA calender, to read the rules and stuff please go to
> http://www.upnaway.com/~jra/aswacalender.html
>
> I would like to encourage you all to enter as we need many different types
> of pics. It is open to anyone including non- members. Initial submissions
> are open untill the 29th of Febuary so please hurry.
>
> Ira Fehlberg
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(ASWA)
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Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:01:50 -0800
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In 1984, (I was a teenager on my P-plates) I drove across The Hay Plains
in my old HR Holden (Wish I still had it, would make a great chase car)
and encountered a decent dust devil. It was a typically hot and dry Feb.
day. For some silly reason (probably a mixture of adrenain and
testosterone) I decided to power through this devil. Well, I hit it at
around 70mph (old speedo) and it almost threw me off the road! I got the
fright of my life!
Never again.
As I mentioned last year, my partner and I experienced one (I guess it
was one) out near Wisemans Ferry (St Albans) in around 1990 and it had
little, if any, visible dust in it. We pulled over to pat a horse and
then soon after another horse started running around, looking
distressed, then this devil hit us really hard, I'd guess maybe 40 knot
winds or more, although I find such things hard to estimate. Come to
think of it, we did see some decent disturbance on a hill top about 500
metres away just before this thing hit us. We got sand blasted (dirt
roads) and received small cuts etc and it absolutely covered the car in
dust and fine scratches. It was quite frightening at the time as it
packed more of a punch than we expected.
Great experience though :-)
Lindsay P.
> I often get worried when I hear people driving through dust devils -
> essentially, you're driving through something that has the velocity of a
> weak tornado, and occassionally a strong tornado. I have heard many
> stories of people nearly being pushed off the road from dust devils. A
> dust devil IMO, is as deceiving as a tornado - while 95% of the time,
> you can approximate its strength from visual observations, you can't do
> it all the time, and as it is easy to underestimate the strength of a
> tornado from visual observations, it is just as easy to underestimate
> the strength of a seemingly weak dust devil.
>
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
> Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:11:21 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Yeah, I second this enquiry. Can anyone help us?
Lindsay P.
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> A question on UV readings...
>
> I was under the impression that UV was related to cloud? Well - while I
> normally do my own forecasts at home, when I'm at my dad's farm, I rely
> on the BoM forecasts via 1196. Anyway - we had a couple of days of rain
> (this was just after Christmas I *think*), and all the forecasts were
> for a UV-rating of 14 - extreme, during rain. But then when it
> decreased to "mostly fine, just the chance of an isolated shower about"
> - the UV forecast dropped to "8 - high." This confused me - perhaps I
> have misinterpretted the scale? Anyone with information on this?
>
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Hey Anthony, Ira and all,
AC wrote:
>Without trying to sound finicky
I tend to think that Ira has been appropriately pedantic in the entry
criteria. In line with ASWA's 'mission statement', I think we should forget
pics of rainbows, sunsets etc - that is unless they are in captured in a
foul weather pic (in which case they might very well enhance the artistic
angle). I guess the usage of 'severe weather' was not in a technical sense,
but directed to the lay person; a nice CG is probably the epitome of bad (ie
severe:-) weather to that audience.
Also on a slightly different note, lets not be naive and think this calendar
will only sell to weather people. The quality of some of the pics of I have
seen from members of this list and others suggest that it will appeal to a
quite wide range of people.
My thoughts...........
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: UV Readings - was: Re: aus-wx: Heat in Sydney
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> Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> >
> > A question on UV readings...
> >
> > I was under the impression that UV was related to cloud? Well - while I
> > normally do my own forecasts at home, when I'm at my dad's farm, I rely
> > on the BoM forecasts via 1196. Anyway - we had a couple of days of rain
> > (this was just after Christmas I *think*), and all the forecasts were
> > for a UV-rating of 14 - extreme, during rain. But then when it
> > decreased to "mostly fine, just the chance of an isolated shower about"
> > - the UV forecast dropped to "8 - high." This confused me - perhaps I
> > have misinterpretted the scale? Anyone with information on this?
> >
It's possible the forecast might have been abbreviated. Normally
if cloud is a possibility, the UV forecast will say something along
the lines of 'UV index 14, decreasing to 8 under cloud'. The Bureau
itself doesn't issue cloudy-sky values without a clear-sky value
(because 15 minutes of exposure during a clear break on an otherwise
cloudy day is just as damaging as 15 minutes of exposure on a clear
day), but maybe the cloudy-sky value dropped out of the forecast
somewhere en route?
I'd also be surprised if a clear-sky value as low as 8 was forecast for a
Queensland site in summer - perhaps this was issued as the 'under
cloud' value?
Blair Trewin
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From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Re: Awesome new dust devil pics are up!
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 14:49:03 +1000
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I also have almost lost it driving through a DD at around 65kph, this one
was on the side of the highway near Bunbury W.A. Really yanked the car
around and I also got one hell of a fright.
>snip
In 1984, (I was a teenager on my P-plates) I drove across The Hay Plains
in my old HR Holden (Wish I still had it, would make a great chase car)
and encountered a decent dust devil. It was a typically hot and dry Feb.
day. For some silly reason (probably a mixture of adrenain and
testosterone) I decided to power through this devil. Well, I hit it at
around 70mph (old speedo) and it almost threw me off the road! I got the
fright of my life!
Never again.
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From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au]
Subject: aus-wx: More storms, South of Adelaide
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Looks like this change has brought with it some small storms, too far to
chase and in a very hard area to navigate :(
Last night I went out alone up to Mallala and a few other places around
there, and noticed lightning out of about 3 cells, but I was unable to
catch them, plus they had dissipated into mere showers by the time I got to
Nuriootpa :( So no photos of this event.
Tonights forcast:
ADELAIDE METROPOLITAN AREA
Thursday (until midnight) : A few showers developing with possible thunder.
Becoming milder with fresh southwest to south winds.
It's a chance, but I will do anything for a good look at lightning :(
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Friday, February 11, 2000 - TOTAL FIRE BAN
The Commissioner of the NSW Rural Fire Service has declared a Total Fire Ban in the following Weather Forecast Districts --- Metropolitan, Central West Slopes, Central West Plains, Hunter, Illawarra, South Coast and Southern Tablelands
The Total Fire Ban will become effective for 24 hours from midnight tonight (Thursday, February 10, 2000) and will cease at midnight tomorrow (Friday, February 11, 2000).
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From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Submissions for the ASWA Calender
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If the picture is of say a storm at sunset, or mammatus or a rainbow at the
rear of a storm etc then it will be considered. What wont be accepted is
straight out sunset or rainbow, snow, frost type pictures. Whilst these
make great pictures they dont come under what i believe ASWA should cover.
I want this calender to go some way to showing the public that we do get
supercells/tornadoes etc in Australia.
Ira Fehlberg
At 15:07 10/02/00 EST, you wrote:
>Hey Anthony, Ira and all,
>
>AC wrote:
>>Without trying to sound finicky
>
>I tend to think that Ira has been appropriately pedantic in the entry
>criteria. In line with ASWA's 'mission statement', I think we should forget
>pics of rainbows, sunsets etc - that is unless they are in captured in a
>foul weather pic (in which case they might very well enhance the artistic
>angle). I guess the usage of 'severe weather' was not in a technical sense,
>but directed to the lay person; a nice CG is probably the epitome of bad (ie
>severe:-) weather to that audience.
>
>Also on a slightly different note, lets not be naive and think this calendar
>will only sell to weather people. The quality of some of the pics of I have
>seen from members of this list and others suggest that it will appeal to a
>quite wide range of people.
>
>My thoughts...........
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Calendar
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Hi ASWA members and those on the list,
Ok before we get a lot of posts on the list, please just wait a while as
nothing is going ahead as yet. There were a few assumptions and therefore
message was posted.
For those that don't know, an ASWA Calendar has been proposed and agreed
upon by the committee. But we need to finalise the details regards the cost
and this obviously has to be passed onto the members. So be patient and you
will hear in due course. Please if you feel you really need to comment on
this issue, please e-mail me jdeguara at ihug.com.au .
Thankyou
Jimmy Deguara
President ASWA
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA NSW meeting final reminder
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Hi folks yes me again...
Please note that the NSW ASWA meeting will be held at Mario's place 90
Station Street Arncliffe this Saturday 12th February 2000. Bring money for
pizza, some snacks and drink if you can please. Oh and bring a chair if you
hate lying down. Be there around 5:30pm or so onwards.
Cya there.
Jimmy Deguara
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