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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Heavy rain in central Australia 002 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au Heavy rain in central Australia 003 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Heavy rain in central Australia 004 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Pictures 005 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Cloud Links... 006 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. 4kg Blocks of Ice... 007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Submissions for the ASWA Calender 008 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. "Fast tilt" - the 84 million year old question... 009 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net] 4kg Blocks of Ice... 010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. 4kg Blocks of Ice... 011 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au Pre-frontal storm line? 012 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Chilling Reminder... 013 Robert Goler [robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu 4kg Blocks of Ice... 014 Robert Goler [robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu 4kg Blocks of Ice... 015 "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] Sydney's Hot Temperatures 016 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] SA Page update 017 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Funnel cloud observation? 018 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Funnel cloud observation? 019 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Funnel cloud observation? 020 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Sydney Hailstorm April 14 '99 - total costs 021 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Torrential Rain falling.......... 022 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Torrential Rain falling.......... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain in central Australia To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:49:06 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There have been widespread heavy falls of rain across central Australia. The southern NT got most of it in the 24 hours to 0900 yesterday (96mm at Yulara and several other reports in the 80-90 range); today the action seems to have been in northern SA (although the NT obs aren't in yet). Glendambo (a truckstop on the Stuart Highway halfway between Woomera and Coober Pedy) got 151mm, Mt. Dare (on the northern border) 130, and two other northern sites topped 70, Marla (74) and Mintabie (72). Plenty of 30s and 40s. Both Glendambo and Mt. Dare got more rain in the last 24 hours than they received in all of 1999 (their 1999 totals being 112.7 and 126.6 respectively). I wouldn't be surprised if the Birdsville Track site of Mungerannie (62.6 in 1999) joins them today. GASP suggests that the moisture will move very slowly eastward - and also has a trough with large precipitation totals anchored over Victoria through the middle of next week - time for the chasing fraternity to start their engines? Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 From: Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au To: " - *aussie-weather at world.std.com" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy rain in central Australia Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:47:50 +0930 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id TAA11492 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow - the models got it right. I think there will be some major flooding in those areas soon - the likes of which was seen in 1995? when the outback was green! blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU at SMTP at world.std.com on 11/02/2000 09:43:37 AM Please respond to aussie-weather at world.std.com at SMTP Sent by: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com at SMTP cc: Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain in central Australia There have been widespread heavy falls of rain across central Australia. The southern NT got most of it in the 24 hours to 0900 yesterday (96mm at Yulara and several other reports in the 80-90 range); today the action seems to have been in northern SA (although the NT obs aren't in yet). Glendambo (a truckstop on the Stuart Highway halfway between Woomera and Coober Pedy) got 151mm, Mt. Dare (on the northern border) 130, and two other northern sites topped 70, Marla (74) and Mintabie (72). Plenty of 30s and 40s. Both Glendambo and Mt. Dare got more rain in the last 24 hours than they received in all of 1999 (their 1999 totals being 112.7 and 126.6 respectively). I wouldn't be surprised if the Birdsville Track site of Mungerannie (62.6 in 1999) joins them today. GASP suggests that the moisture will move very slowly eastward - and also has a trough with large precipitation totals anchored over Victoria through the middle of next week - time for the chasing fraternity to start their engines? Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy rain in central Australia To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:34:06 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > There have been widespread heavy falls of rain across central > Australia. The southern NT got most of it in the 24 hours to 0900 > yesterday (96mm at Yulara and several other reports in the 80-90 > range); today the action seems to have been in northern SA (although > the NT obs aren't in yet). > NT obs are now in and there are a couple of whoppers - 190mm at Erldunda (where the Uluru road leaves the Stuart Highway - no wonder it's closed!) and 151mm at New Crown. Also a few others in the 80-100 range, although they are more isolated than yesterday. 190 must be getting within striking distance of the largest one-day falls in this region. Alice Springs has had 204.8, Ringwood 243.3, Barrow Creek 233.7, among the longer-term stations, but there may well be shorter-term stations (especially in the March 1988 event) or rainfall-only stations that I've missed (and the structure of our database is such that it's an absolute bugger to search it for that). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:17:34 +1100 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Pictures Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I have uploaded some pictures taken in Brisbane yesterday - a nice beefy looking shower early in the morning, and a really 'gothic' looking sunset.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-2000span.jpg http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-200002.jpg http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-200003.jpg This congestus looked really nice - looks fairly soft in the picture though.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-200006.jpg I really liked this sunset.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-200012.jpg http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/10-02-2000/10-02-200013.jpg Looking at the latest model runs - it looks like i'll be photographing sunsets and showers forming in a SE air stream for quite some time!!! Hopefully the second half of February will be better storms (decent storms) wise.. -- Ben Quinn The Brisbane Storm Chasers Homepage (BSCH) http://www.bsch.simplenet.com The Australian Weather Pages Webring http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/webring/index.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:38:07 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Cloud Links... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Trolling through the January 29 Issue of New Scientist during one of my rare lunch-breaks, I came across some "Cloud Links" links that may be of interest to you. I havn't checked them out yet, so I don't know if they work or not. Here goes... (1) John Day's ethereal website at http://www.cloudman.com (2) Plymouth State College's "Cloud Boutique" at http://vortex.plymouth.edu/cloud.html (3) Gordon Richardson's at http://gordonr.simplenet.com/index.htm (4) Weird clouds at http://www.consciousness.com/1thumbnail.html (5) Animal clouds at http://homepages.enterprise.net/alans (6) NASA's International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project at http://isccp.giss.nasa.gov (7) NASA's Space shuttle pics taken from space at http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/solar/portug/cloud1.htm Enjoy! Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:47:09 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: 4kg Blocks of Ice... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In January 29's issue of New Scientist was little artical about 4kg blocks of ice falling out of the sky in Spain somewhere. Perhaps someone has more info about this. Quoted verbatim from page 5, "Newswire"... ---Begin Included Text--- Fortean ice Chunks if ice that fell in Spain over the last few weeks came from the upper atmosphere, according to scientists called in to investigate. Some of the blocks weighed up to 4 kilograms. The blocks' composition rules out comets and aeroplanes as the source. But scientists are still puzzled. "We know that hail can sometimes grow up to the size of a baseball, but not a 4-kilogram mass," says Fernando Lopez Vera, a geophysicist at the Independent University of Madrid. ---Ends--- Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 007 Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 15:32:06 -0800 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Submissions for the ASWA Calender Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keep us posted Les. Lindsay p. Les Crossan wrote: > > > > BTW for anyone who is interested - there's a rearward sloping anafront (cold > front) with upper level trough / high helicity passing across the UK > tomorrow - severe weather warnings are already being issued - I'll be > chasing it for a distance of several hundred miles, it's funnel / prong / > inches per hr / tornado time!!! > > The mounting excitement can be read on uk.sci.weather (: > > Les > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:15:20 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: "Fast tilt" - the 84 million year old question... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Final January 29 New Scientist Artical on pg. 29 (I hope)... ---Begin Included Text--- Fast tilt IT SEEMS that the Earth suddenly tilted on its axis by up to 20 degrees about 84 million years ago, tipping continent -loads of dinosaurs into new climate zones. Geologists have traced the slow wander of the Earth's magnetic poles across its surface by examining the magnetic record laid down in lava. And generally, the movement of poles - which is thought to reflect the crust and mantel slipping over the metallic core - is slow. But a new study of undersea volcanoes in the Pacific shows that the movement was more than 10 times as fast for around 2 million years. "Most of the plate motions around the globe seem to have been changing," says Will Sager if the University of Texas in Austin. Sager says data collected by Michel Prevot of the University of Montpelier in France confirm the movement. ---Ends--- Makes me wonder that the poor dinosaurs had to cope with some impressive climate change, not to mention lots of volcanoes with stacks of dust and poisonous gases etc. Pretty hideous place until their final demise 65 million years ago. Their numbers were probably in decline for some time and being egg-laying beasts unable to move long distances to find better accommodation quickly as the Earth broke up around them, unlike birds (that survived), dinosaurs would have to abandon their nests and young. Also, dinosaur egg-shells and embryos would have suffered some considerable mutation from a poisonous environment. This would have given placental mammals, birds, marine reptiles and other beasts that could better protect their eggs/young from the environment, the edge in ultimate survival stakes. Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 X-Sender: m3150396 at hardy.ocs.mq.edu.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:44:03 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net] Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4kg Blocks of Ice... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A sphere of 20cm diameter would weigh roughly 4kg. That's a pretty big hailstone! My calculation might be incorrect though. The volume of a spehere is 4/3 x pi x r^3 isn't it? Ben Munro At 13:47 11-02-00 +1100, you wrote: >In January 29's issue of New Scientist was little artical about >4kg blocks of ice falling out of the sky in Spain somewhere. >Perhaps someone has more info about this. Quoted verbatim from >page 5, "Newswire"... > >---Begin Included Text--- >Fortean ice > >Chunks if ice that fell in Spain over the last few weeks came >from the upper atmosphere, according to scientists called in >to investigate. Some of the blocks weighed up to 4 kilograms. >The blocks' composition rules out comets and aeroplanes as >the source. But scientists are still puzzled. "We know that >hail can sometimes grow up to the size of a baseball, but not >a 4-kilogram mass," says Fernando Lopez Vera, a geophysicist >at the Independent University of Madrid. >---Ends--- > >Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:44:17 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4kg Blocks of Ice... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robert Goler wrote: > > Hi Michael > > You can find the original news report (with pictures!) here at: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_608000/608903.stm > > The latest information I heard about this (apart from the New Scientist > article that you mention) is that the analysis of the composition of these > ice chunks revealed that they were made out of ordinary tap water. That > is, they were not waste ejected from planes etc, and were definitely not > cometary in origin. Thanks for that link, Robert...I also have that book "Weird Weather" which prompted me to add this more modern account...The fact that this ice is tap water raises the distinct possibility of a hoax:-) [snip "Weird Weather" quotes] Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 From: Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMA at TNPN To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:01:07 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: Pre-frontal storm line? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 2.45pm a line of (hopefully) storms aligned from NNW-SSE seems to be developing ahead of the main cloud band. Currently located just west of a line West Wyalong to Cooma. Could be an interesting afternoon later on for Canberra? (Current conditions are: temp 32, Dp 07 - somewhat below optimum for a decent storm!!) with gusty NW winds and visibly increasing dust haze. Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:08:03 +1100 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Chilling Reminder... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Honest, this is my last quote from January 29's New Scientist. Beginning on page 40 is an interview with Jean-Robert Petit, "The Ice Man" who has probably spent the most time of any human at Vostok, 4km up on the Central Antartic ice plateau. How I'd love to get my hands on the scientific reports that pertain to the analysis of drilled ice cores at Vostok or any other reasonable site. At Vostok, the climate record in the ice "now stretches back 400 000 years and it covers the past four natural climate cycles". Jean-Robert revealed during 1987 "we found that the Antartic temperature rose by 10C from glacial to interglacial periods. Changes in CO2 levels account for about 50% of that change. For the first time we had a nice correlation between temperature change and CO2 levels stretching back 150 000 years. Only ice can tell you about this important relationship." The depth at this point was around 2200 metres but it is not quoted directly in the artical. At 3600 metres, this is the deepest ice-core drilled, and the longest climate record..."However far back you look in the Vostok core CO2 levels have never been as high as today. If you plot levels over the past 400 000 years you have a gentle oscillation up and down. But the present value shoots off the graph. The highest level in the past occurred 300 000 years ago and was 300 ppm. The present level is around 360 parts per million. So it's clear we're doing something different to the climate." I'd say it's a "Chilling Reminder"... As backgound, the CO2 level is measured directly by melting the ice to release trapped atmospheric gases. The temperature is derived from the ratio of oxygen-18 to oxygen-16 in the gases and ice formed at that time. Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:16:16 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler [robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au] To: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] cc: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 4kg Blocks of Ice... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I have uncovered some more information regarding a similar event that occurred in Italy about a day or so after the Spain event. I don't have the actual articles, but these were taken from the meteorobs mailing list. "Also here in Italy two days ago [~22 Jan] it happened the same phenomenon. An ice "ball", weight about 5 kg. fall down in a courtyard of a school. The site was around Padua. The TV News suddenly report the fact with the reference to the Spain accidents." "Yesterday [~23 Jan] other three ice balls one about 12 and the other two about 5 kg. fall down in other italian city, close to Como." I mentioned earlier about the composition being ordinary tap water. Upon looking back at the email that this came from, it was actually _distilled_ water. However, I do not know where the emailer got this from, as this was the only account I heard regarding the composition of the object. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3168 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:19:24 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler [robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au] To: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] cc: Aussie WeatherSubject: Re: aus-wx: 4kg Blocks of Ice... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael You can find the original news report (with pictures!) here at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_608000/608903.stm The latest information I heard about this (apart from the New Scientist article that you mention) is that the analysis of the composition of these ice chunks revealed that they were made out of ordinary tap water. That is, they were not waste ejected from planes etc, and were definitely not cometary in origin. If you check out a book entitled "Weird Weather" by Paul Simons, he mentions some similar accounts that have occurred. Here are some passages from the aforementioned book: "Another peculiar event occurred in Timberville, Virginia, USA on 7 March 1976. The sky was clear and Wilbert Cullers and his family were watching television when at 8.45pm there was a loud crash which shook the house. A block of ice about the size of a basketball smashed through the plasterboard ceiling of the living room and fell onto the floor. Deputies from the Rockingham County Sheriff's Department arrived about an hour later and collected some of the ice samples. A neighbour saw the ice and another ice ball fall about 50 yards (46 metres) away, but when he looked up at the sky for any sign of aircraft he saw nothing unusual. Later chemical and physical analysis of the ice at a local college found it was fairly unremarkable; it appeared to be made of tap water." "Sometimes the ice falls out of a clear sky, such as at Long Beach, California on 4 June 1953 when about fifty ice lumps fell, some weighing 165 pounds (75 kilograms), and the total weighing about 2200 pounds (1 tonne)." "The greatest ever natural ice chunk recorded fell at Ord in Rosshire on the evening of 13 August 1849 on the estate of Mr Moffat of Balvullich. The monstrous block was some 20 feet (6 metres) across, and The Times reported that it had a beautiful crstalline structure, almost transparent appearance, formed of diamond-shaped ice coalesced together. 'Immediately after one of the loudest peals of thunder heard there, a large and irregular-shaped mass of ice, reckoned to be nearly 20 feet in circumference, and of a proportionate thickness, fell near the farmhouse.' And of course, no aircraft could have been responsible for it." The book is very readable and gives similar accounts of other freak weather phenomenon. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3168 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 From: "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] To: "aussieweather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Sydney's Hot Temperatures Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:34:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 016 X-Sender: astroman at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:45:32 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: SA Page update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello everyone, I have added some more stuff to the South Australian Severe Weather page. 1. I have added some photographs that Phil Bagust has taken, they can be found at, http://sastorms.virtualave.net/pbagustnew.html 2. I have added a temperature records table for Adelaide, which can be found at, http://sastorms.virtualave.net/temprecord.html 3. I have also added a rainfall totals table which can be found at, http://sastorms.virtualave.net/rainfalltotals.html Dont forget to keep an eye on how many days left until our next meeting at, http://sastorms.virtualave.net/meetings.html Also, check out our weather for each month at, http://sastorms.virtualave.net/summary2000.html And for those interested in some past radar images, goto, http://sastorms.virtualave.net.au/miscradar.html I will be adding a storm report page, when I get a chance to chase a real storm, or when I receive some chase reports from other members. this will be located at http://sastorms.virtualave.net/reports.html Okay have fun, catch yas later, Andrew Wall ph (08) 828 545 90 South Australia. State representative for S.A. and N.T. Division of the Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. Webmaster of The official South Australian Severe Weather watch homepage. South Australian Severe Weather page - http://sastorms.virtualave.net ASWA Inc. - http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:58:26 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: Funnel cloud observation? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Havent seen this on any of the obs before, this was on the 3pm obs in WA today: ! Balgo Hills ! Funnel cloud ! 8!WNW 7 ! 29 68! 30 ! ! Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 X-Sender: jra at upnaway.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:17:52 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Funnel cloud observation? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Where is balgo hills dude? At 15:58 11/02/00 +0800, you wrote: > >Havent seen this on any of the obs before, this was on the 3pm obs in WA today: > >! Balgo Hills ! Funnel cloud ! 8!WNW 7 ! 29 68! 30 ! ! > >Jacob > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Funnel cloud observation? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 22:37:19 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Havent seen this on any of the obs before, this was on the 3pm obs in WA today: > > ! Balgo Hills ! Funnel cloud ! 8!WNW 7 ! 29 68! 30 ! ! > > Jacob Most probably a coding error. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 X-Sender: disarm at braenet.com.au (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:06:14 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Hailstorm April 14 '99 - total costs Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tele newspaper article today in Sydney said that insurance loss was $1.63 Billion, and the total estimated cost was 2.2 billion $. wow. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 021 From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 21:54:03 +0930 Subject: aus-wx: Torrential Rain falling.......... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12a) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. It is and was absolutely pissin down here - have had 93mm til now. 75mm falling in 1 hour from 6.45 - 7.45pm. Rest falling from 7.45pm - 9.15pm. Still raining quite heavy now. All started with a monsoonal storm line coming in off the ocean - very gusty heavy rain falling for the 1st hour - then steady moderate type rain with heavier bursts intermingled. Radar still shows a bank of rain to come - with the chance also of further propagation out to sea enhancing any further rain. Went for a drive - plenty of localised flooding - including approaches to Stokes Hill Wharf, Tiger Brennen Drive and Dick Ward Drive. Keep it up I reckon! Paul in Darwin. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 022 X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 23:47:00 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Torrential Rain falling.......... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Tell me you have photos of all these lovely storms your getting up there paul.. and if so, chuch em on the web so we can all see them ! :) Matt Smith >Howdy all. It is and was absolutely pissin down here - have had >93mm til now. > >75mm falling in 1 hour from 6.45 - 7.45pm. >Rest falling from 7.45pm - 9.15pm. > >Still raining quite heavy now. > >All started with a monsoonal storm line coming in off the ocean - >very gusty heavy rain falling for the 1st hour - then steady moderate >type rain with heavier bursts intermingled. > >Radar still shows a bank of rain to come - with the chance also of >further propagation out to sea enhancing any further rain. > >Went for a drive - plenty of localised flooding - including approaches >to Stokes Hill Wharf, Tiger Brennen Drive and Dick Ward Drive. >Keep it up I reckon! > >Paul in Darwin. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Hey Everyone,It has been a warm one again here in Sydney. Cumulus and Cirrus have been visible since about 10am. Some of the temperatures have been a little weird. At Penrith the temps shot up to 38 at 1:30 then have fluctuated up and down all afternoon.1700 37.2 24 360 32 43 31.0
1630 37.8 26 360 26 35 32.1
1600 37.1 26 350 22 33 31.4
1530 38.1 22 340 28 39 31.3
1500 37.8 23 010 26 44 31.3
1430 36.8 25 010 24 37 30.9
1400 38.5 22 350 22 41 31.7
1330 38.0 23 010 22 35 31.5
1300 37.1 24 360 22 32 30.9
1230 36.8 24 350 17 30 30.7It has been similar around Sydney also.After this hot dry spell, hopefully we can get some rain over the weekend and into next week to soften the ground up again.
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