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001 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
002 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Model Gurus
003 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Model Gurus
004 "James Pickett" [juxie_69 at hotmail.com] Coral Sea -Cyclone Outlook
005 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
006 "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net] UK Severe Weather
007 "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net] UK website...
008 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] A last present from Steve?
009 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] March 5 Storm chase Photos and Report.
010 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au] A last present from Steve?
011 "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au] A last present from Steve?
012 "Adam Mayo" [oyam at bigpond.com] March 9th chase - some nice pics
013 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) A last present from Steve?
014 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au maybe?
015 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
016 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Model Gurus
017 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Model Gurus
018 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
019 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
020 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics Sydney view
021 "Weatherhead" [weatherhead at ozemail.com.au] March 9th chase - some nice pics
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001
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:33:40 +1000
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I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This isolated
storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
have missed the best.
http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
Michael Thompson
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 22:54:09 +0930
Subject: aus-wx: Model Gurus
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Hi Laurier, Blair or anyone who calls themselves a models expert.
Please put me out of my misery. 72hr AVN MRF shows a possible
Tropical Low / Possible TC right near us. Unisys MRF model also
shows that Low combined with a upper high.
BOM forecast shows the monsoonal trough located in the area.
NOGAPS as usual shows a Cyclone over Sydney...........
(kiddin....but you know what I mean).
The precipitation forecast has been showing for days now the
250mm plus shading over us for the next forcast periods (2 weeks).
Is there a chance of a Tropical Low / Cyclone forming? Certainly
hot & humid here today - temp was 30 with DP's of 25 (yeah it was
bloody humid with a moist SW'erly blowing as well.
Please give your opinions.......and give me some hope or put me
out of my misery.
As usual the BOM "wont comment" ............
Paul in Darwin.
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Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 23:05:30 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Model Gurus
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In addition to that COLA & Tim Humes WAFS shows the same
Low central presuure of about 999 or so.
Help..............
On 11 Mar 00, at 22:54, paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
> Hi Laurier, Blair or anyone who calls themselves a models expert.
>
> Please put me out of my misery. 72hr AVN MRF shows a possible
> Tropical Low / Possible TC right near us. Unisys MRF model also
> shows that Low combined with a upper high.
>
> BOM forecast shows the monsoonal trough located in the area.
> NOGAPS as usual shows a Cyclone over Sydney...........
> (kiddin....but you know what I mean).
>
> The precipitation forecast has been showing for days now the
> 250mm plus shading over us for the next forcast periods (2 weeks).
>
> Is there a chance of a Tropical Low / Cyclone forming? Certainly hot &
> humid here today - temp was 30 with DP's of 25 (yeah it was bloody
> humid with a moist SW'erly blowing as well.
>
> Please give your opinions.......and give me some hope or put me
> out of my misery.
>
> As usual the BOM "wont comment" ............
>
> Paul in Darwin.
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Subject: aus-wx: Coral Sea -Cyclone Outlook
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 16:55:21 GMT
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Hi to all, (North Queenslanders especially).
It seems like the Bureau are fairly confident about this one!!!
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TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK
for the Coral Sea West of Longitude 160 East
Issued at 2:30pm on Saturday the 11th of March 2000
There is a weak 1003 hPa low near 13S165E. The low is expected to remain
slow
moving and shows moderate to good potential for developing into a tropical
cyclone during the next 2 to 3 days.
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Weather By Fax 190 293 5278 at a cost of 60cents/minute and can
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
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Hi Michael,
I forwarded an e-mail to Matt Smith with the whole sequence of images of
the radar. I would suggest you ask him to pass this on to you as it has the
radar going red before it.
Did you notice any rotation with the lowering say 5:30pm onwards. The
lowering looked from here very suspicious. I have the outside view of the
storm and it looks very interesting. At 6pm the storm was in collapse mode.
Jimmy Deguara
At 23:33 11/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
>I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This isolated
>storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
>have missed the best.
>
>http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
>
>
>Michael Thompson
>http://thunder.simplenet.com
>
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From: "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: UK Severe Weather
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:53:40 -0000
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List,
I'm setting up my own website!
Anyone who wants their Australian website
linked please let me know!
Les (UK)
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007
From: "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net]
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Subject: aus-wx: UK website...
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 01:04:49 -0000
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Whoops!
Try this, folks...
008
From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: A last present from Steve?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:58:03 +1100
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I notice from the satellite observations that some of the remnants of ex TC
Steve have arrived over SE Australia. Fortunately, the cloud is in patches
with breaks in between.
In combination with the cloud from Steve, high levels of moisture from the
NE, the Canberra and SE NSW seems to have a very unstable atmosphere.
I am happy to report that towers are going up all over.
Unlike the other day when there was potential which was killed off by
thickening high and middle level cloud, today we have had strong heating for
the last couple of hours. In fact the sky looks the best that I have seen
all summer here (not that the benchmark is all that high...).
I think there will soon be a few good red blobs to see on the radar.
Patrick
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 5 Storm chase Photos and Report.
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:57:47 +1100
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Les,
Thanks for your response to this.
Others may correct me but I do not believe that the processes at work in the
inland summer troughs of Australia have been the subject of too much
detailed work. This is no doubt due to the low population densities in the
areas where these troughs play a major role. This means that - especially
compared to the US - surface observations are geographically sparse and
detailed upper soundings are even more sparse. It also means that the impact
of severe weather in these areas is also less likely to impact on many
people (again unlike the US) thus reducing the imperative for sparse
research funding to be spent on studying these troughs.
By contrast, I understand that there has been a lot more work done on
southern cold fronts and their intereaction with the Australian landmass
particularly near the coast-line. Cold fronts have a much greater impact on
probably 80% of the Australian population - with their impacts ranging from
the benign end to a spell of extreme heat, through to the severe storms
(wind, hail, tornadoes etc) as well as impacts on bushfires (varied and
complex depending on the part of the country and local topography).
My personal impression is that the BOM is not consistent in placing the
locations of trough lines (and dry lines - if indeed Australia does have
anything like a similar phenomenon to that which occurs on the US plains) on
MSL analyses that are made available to the public. This may be because the
line is less well defined and harder to place than a temperature
discontinuity or it may be that other types of discontinuities have not been
regarded to be sufficiently significant to include on a MSL analysis.
I think it would be quite interesting to see some Skew T's from either side
of an active Australian inland summer trough.
Patrick
>The dry line nor the trough line (if it was not the cold front) were
>neither one included in the 5 March analysis. That is really surprising
>knowing how important atmospheric boundaries are to convection and
>convective initiation. All this is the reason that here in the states, the
>offices that are located in regions subjected to thunderstorms and severe
>thunderstorms more frequently, do detailed mesoscale analyses rather than
>taking the NMC (National Meteorological Center) NWS synoptic analysis. In
>fact, it has only been in recent years that the NMC NWS national synoptic
>analyses started to include the dryline that we, here in the plains, know
>so well. Maybe for this reason it is not surprising after all!
>
>
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:24:31 +1000
From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]
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Susan from Balmain
Had to laugh when my daughter in all seriousness on Friday night told me that
the reason for all the rain was TC Steve which was now in Sydney and dumping
all this rain we'd been having - asked her where she heard that and she told
me it was the TV station presenter called Monty or something - she claims he is
very good. She told me he had a weather chart showing Steve centred over
Sydney. I immediately showed her TC Steve's position near Monkey Mia. She
was very unimpressed with Monty and wanted to know how they (the presenters)
could do that.
Lets hear it for TV weather presenters (not!)
Susan
Patrick Tobin wrote:
> I notice from the satellite observations that some of the remnants of ex TC
> Steve have arrived over SE Australia. Fortunately, the cloud is in patches
> with breaks in between.
>
> In combination with the cloud from Steve, high levels of moisture from the
> NE, the Canberra and SE NSW seems to have a very unstable atmosphere.
>
> I am happy to report that towers are going up all over.
>
> Unlike the other day when there was potential which was killed off by
> thickening high and middle level cloud, today we have had strong heating for
> the last couple of hours. In fact the sky looks the best that I have seen
> all summer here (not that the benchmark is all that high...).
>
> I think there will soon be a few good red blobs to see on the radar.
>
> Patrick
>
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [patricktobin at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: A last present from Steve?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:59:04 +1100
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Susan,
If you follow one of the satellite animations, you can get a good idea of
where the moisture has come from. For Sydney last Friday try either
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/shemi/images/images.html
(probably getting a bit late for Friday but shows the origins of the current
cloud over SE Aust quite well or
http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/data/comp/ and select cmoll.mpg (you get a week's
global animation)
>From memory the cloud band over Sydney on Friday at one stage a couple of
days earlier interacted with cloud emanating from TC Steve. So it is
probably technically true to say that some moisture that was included in
Sydney's rain came from Steve; a lot more came from the Coral Sea however.
As with all rain events, however, moisture is only part of the story. There
has to some trigger to get the moisture to lift and produce rain - in this
case there was an upper level disturbance over NSW. Very local to Eastern
Australia and not associated with Steve.
Weather is certainly very complex - this often doesn't make for good 2
minute grabs which the Montys of the world have to make do with. This
doesn't absolve them of the requirement to be more careful with the truth!!
I have also noticed over recent months that the ABC has been guilty of
repeating the day before's synoptic chart or satellite images. This has
happened on a number of occasions. In some cases Mike Bailey (the presenter)
has obviously noticed this and rapidly moved on. Or if it happens on a
weekend the news presenter has no idea at all. Either way there is no owning
up to the error which I think is very unprofessional.
Little wonder that the general public in Australia has a fairly poor
understanding of the weather.
Patrick
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From: Susan Puddifer [susanpud at healey.com.au]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Sunday, 12 March 2000 13:31
Subject: Re: aus-wx: A last present from Steve?
>Susan from Balmain
>
>Had to laugh when my daughter in all seriousness on Friday night told me
that
>the reason for all the rain was TC Steve which was now in Sydney and
dumping
>all this rain we'd been having - asked her where she heard that and she
told
>me it was the TV station presenter called Monty or something - she claims
he is
>very good. She told me he had a weather chart showing Steve centred over
>Sydney. I immediately showed her TC Steve's position near Monkey Mia.
She
>was very unimpressed with Monty and wanted to know how they (the
presenters)
>could do that.
>
>Lets hear it for TV weather presenters (not!)
>
>Susan
>
>Patrick Tobin wrote:
>
>> I notice from the satellite observations that some of the remnants of ex
TC
>> Steve have arrived over SE Australia. Fortunately, the cloud is in
patches
>> with breaks in between.
>>
>> In combination with the cloud from Steve, high levels of moisture from
the
>> NE, the Canberra and SE NSW seems to have a very unstable atmosphere.
>>
>> I am happy to report that towers are going up all over.
>>
>> Unlike the other day when there was potential which was killed off by
>> thickening high and middle level cloud, today we have had strong heating
for
>> the last couple of hours. In fact the sky looks the best that I have seen
>> all summer here (not that the benchmark is all that high...).
>>
>> I think there will soon be a few good red blobs to see on the radar.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
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From: "Adam Mayo" [oyam at bigpond.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 12:28:46 +1100
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Hi Jimmy,
Adam and I were watching that storm from North Head [near Manly] about 5.30
pm and we also noticed something different about it. I would tend to agree
with you, it looked very promising for a little while. It was also rather
wide spread, reaching a long way out past the coast but we could see that,
that part of the storm wasn't going to do anything. It was also hardly
moving at all and stayed practically in the same position the whole time
that we were there.
Judy.
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2000 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
> Hi Michael,
>
> I forwarded an e-mail to Matt Smith with the whole sequence of images of
> the radar. I would suggest you ask him to pass this on to you as it has
the
> radar going red before it.
>
> Did you notice any rotation with the lowering say 5:30pm onwards. The
> lowering looked from here very suspicious. I have the outside view of the
> storm and it looks very interesting. At 6pm the storm was in collapse
mode.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 23:33 11/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This
isolated
> >storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
> >have missed the best.
> >
> >http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
> >
> >
> >Michael Thompson
> >http://thunder.simplenet.com
> >
> >
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: A last present from Steve?
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 06:00:54 GMT
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:59:04 +1100, "Patrick Tobin"
wrote:
>Susan,
>
snip
>As with all rain events, however, moisture is only part of the story. There
>has to some trigger to get the moisture to lift and produce rain - in this
>case there was an upper level disturbance over NSW. Very local to Eastern
>Australia and not associated with Steve.
>
There was in fact a quite remarkable coincidence of good conditions
for rain production. I've written them up (with diagrams!) at
http://ausweather.simplenet.com/news/news.html then click the link for
11 March.
--
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather News & Links
http://ausweather.simplenet.com
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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOKFOR THE AREA BETWEEN
LONGITUDES 125 EAST - 142 EAST Issued by the BUREAU OF
METEOROLOGY, DARWINat 1:21 pm CST Sunday 12 MARCH
2000A weak low 1006 hPa in the Arafura Sea; Location..........near 11.2S
136.0E ..........about 80 nautical miles, 150km NW of Nhulunbuy Central
pressure: 1006 hPa Recent movement : near stationaryDEVELOPMENT
POTENTIAL: NEXT 24H: LOW 24-48H: LOW 48-72H: LOW Note:
Development Potential is an estimate of the probability of tropicalcyclone
development within each 24 hour periodLOW = 10% or less MODERATE
= 20%-40% HIGH = 50% or moreRemarks: The low is expected to
assume WSW movement and accelerate. It is expected to cross northwest
Top End and move into the Timor Sea early on Tuesday maintaining WNW
movement. The low is not expected to develop into a tropical cyclone within
the outlook period.
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:26:29 +1000
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Hi Michael,
Those pictures are unreal! That storm has nasty plastered all over it!!
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This isolated
> storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
> have missed the best.
>
> http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
>
> Michael Thompson
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:31:16 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Paul, everyone..
Just wanted to point out that the AVN and MRF models will basically be
exactly the same under 72 hours.. from what i've been told, they are
basically the same models, but the MRF forecast go out to 144 hours and
the AVN forecasts out to 72 hours.. if you compare the forecasts side to
side you will be able to pick this up..
The WAFS model is also basically exactly the same as the AVN model..
once again if you compare the two model forecasts you will pick this up
instantly..
Another eventless weekend in SE QLD weather wise - but i'm hoping a
trough forecast for SE Australia over the next few days will do
something for us later in the week..
paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
>
> In addition to that COLA & Tim Humes WAFS shows the same
> Low central presuure of about 999 or so.
>
> Help..............
>
> On 11 Mar 00, at 22:54, paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
>
> > Hi Laurier, Blair or anyone who calls themselves a models expert.
> >
> > Please put me out of my misery. 72hr AVN MRF shows a possible
> > Tropical Low / Possible TC right near us. Unisys MRF model also
> > shows that Low combined with a upper high.
> >
> > BOM forecast shows the monsoonal trough located in the area.
> > NOGAPS as usual shows a Cyclone over Sydney...........
> > (kiddin....but you know what I mean).
> >
> > The precipitation forecast has been showing for days now the
> > 250mm plus shading over us for the next forcast periods (2 weeks).
> >
> > Is there a chance of a Tropical Low / Cyclone forming? Certainly hot &
> > humid here today - temp was 30 with DP's of 25 (yeah it was bloody
> > humid with a moist SW'erly blowing as well.
> >
> > Please give your opinions.......and give me some hope or put me
> > out of my misery.
> >
> > As usual the BOM "wont comment" ............
> >
> > Paul in Darwin.
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Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:32:42 +1000
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Paul
Forget it
don W
paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
>
> Hi Laurier, Blair or anyone who calls themselves a models expert.
>
> Please put me out of my misery. 72hr AVN MRF shows a possible
> Tropical Low / Possible TC right near us. Unisys MRF model also
> shows that Low combined with a upper high.
>
> BOM forecast shows the monsoonal trough located in the area.
> NOGAPS as usual shows a Cyclone over Sydney...........
> (kiddin....but you know what I mean).
>
> The precipitation forecast has been showing for days now the
> 250mm plus shading over us for the next forcast periods (2 weeks).
>
> Is there a chance of a Tropical Low / Cyclone forming? Certainly
> hot & humid here today - temp was 30 with DP's of 25 (yeah it was
> bloody humid with a moist SW'erly blowing as well.
>
> Please give your opinions.......and give me some hope or put me
> out of my misery.
>
> As usual the BOM "wont comment" ............
>
> Paul in Darwin.
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:27:07 +1000
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Thanks Ben, I wish there were more this season, still waiting on a humugus
supercell. Actually the point at which the pics were taken has been the area
in which two damaging Sydney supercells started life. That's why I often
head there.
Michael
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> Hi Michael,
>
> Those pictures are unreal! That storm has nasty plastered all over it!!
>
>
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
> >
> > I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This
isolated
> > storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
> > have missed the best.
> >
> > http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
> >
> > Michael Thompson
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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No rotation evident at all, the photo down the page taken from pheasants
nest shows the storm at approx 5.30pm, and indeed there where lowerings a
plenty, but the storm was moving extremely quick.
One thing I did notice is that from 50km away the line tended to look like a
single unit, but there were several cells. Although a 6pm as you note it was
falling apart I still managed to get that one good base.
Matt tells me Daniel Weatherhead has the sequence, I will ask him.
Regards
Michael
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
> Hi Michael,
>
> I forwarded an e-mail to Matt Smith with the whole sequence of images of
> the radar. I would suggest you ask him to pass this on to you as it has
the
> radar going red before it.
>
> Did you notice any rotation with the lowering say 5:30pm onwards. The
> lowering looked from here very suspicious. I have the outside view of the
> storm and it looks very interesting. At 6pm the storm was in collapse
mode.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 23:33 11/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This
isolated
> >storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
> >have missed the best.
> >
> >http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
> >
> >
> >Michael Thompson
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Michael,
I suppose you had a better view. The view I got was from the rear. If you
saw it from the side you are in a better situation to see it. It will be
good to compare the video footage and photos and make a decision from that
as to what it really was. I only really began to take notice say from just
before 5pm and then went across the road after 5pm when I saw the red on
radar and the other cell had collapsed.
We will see the footage on Saturday. As Dann Weatherhead noticed and I
noticed, the rising updraught of the last major cell lasted quite a while
and also had a leaning tower to it straight up from the lowerings.
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:24 12/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
>No rotation evident at all, the photo down the page taken from pheasants
>nest shows the storm at approx 5.30pm, and indeed there where lowerings a
>plenty, but the storm was moving extremely quick.
>
>One thing I did notice is that from 50km away the line tended to look like a
>single unit, but there were several cells. Although a 6pm as you note it was
>falling apart I still managed to get that one good base.
>
>Matt tells me Daniel Weatherhead has the sequence, I will ask him.
>
>Regards
>Michael
>
>
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>To:
>Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2000 8:31
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > I forwarded an e-mail to Matt Smith with the whole sequence of images of
> > the radar. I would suggest you ask him to pass this on to you as it has
>the
> > radar going red before it.
> >
> > Did you notice any rotation with the lowering say 5:30pm onwards. The
> > lowering looked from here very suspicious. I have the outside view of the
> > storm and it looks very interesting. At 6pm the storm was in collapse
>mode.
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 23:33 11/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
> > >I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This
>isolated
> > >storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I may
> > >have missed the best.
> > >
> > >http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >Michael Thompson
> > >http://thunder.simplenet.com
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I saw the cell ahead (north) of it more clearly because it was..well closer.
What struck me was that both of these storms from what i could see were very
similar in structure. They formed quickly, had successive updrafts which
were stronger each time and seemed to organise themselves very quickly from
initial CJ--congestus (..still sounds weird Anthony =/... ), to Cb stage.
However, the more northern storm seemed to die, when the other southern
storm really built up more. From my position, the rear end of the storm had
a great flanking line, there was even another CB further north-west of the
storm, however i believe this ended up feeding into the main updraft.
I have photos that should be up tommorrow evening or tuesday sometime.
Dann Weatherhead
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> No rotation evident at all, the photo down the page taken from pheasants
> nest shows the storm at approx 5.30pm, and indeed there where lowerings a
> plenty, but the storm was moving extremely quick.
>
> One thing I did notice is that from 50km away the line tended to look like
a
> single unit, but there were several cells. Although a 6pm as you note it
was
> falling apart I still managed to get that one good base.
>
> Matt tells me Daniel Weatherhead has the sequence, I will ask him.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jimmy Deguara
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, 12 March 2000 8:31
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9th chase - some nice pics
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > I forwarded an e-mail to Matt Smith with the whole sequence of images of
> > the radar. I would suggest you ask him to pass this on to you as it has
> the
> > radar going red before it.
> >
> > Did you notice any rotation with the lowering say 5:30pm onwards. The
> > lowering looked from here very suspicious. I have the outside view of
the
> > storm and it looks very interesting. At 6pm the storm was in collapse
> mode.
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 23:33 11/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
> > >I have the report for my chase to Mittagong on March 9th up. This
> isolated
> > >storm gave hail to about 1.5cm, not quite severe size, but I think I
may
> > >have missed the best.
> > >
> > >http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase17.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >Michael Thompson
> > >http://thunder.simplenet.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
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