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001 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Lightning and digital cameras
002 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Brilliant Rainbow over Brisbane this Morning
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Brilliant Rainbow over
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Blackheath Rain
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Re: La Nina Phase
006 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Equinoxal gales!
007 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Early morning Cb
008 "hub25" [hub25 at wimmeranet.vic.edu.au] Videos??
009 "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au] Re: La Nina Phase
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Re: La Nina Phase
011 "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au] Brilliant Rainbow over Brisbane this Morning
012 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au] S.E Australia Sat Pics
013 David Carroll [davidkc at nia.net.au] Central Coast Weather
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001
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:11:17 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Greg, everyone..
Correct me if i'm wrong - but i think you're going to need an SLR camera
to be able to take decent lightning pictures? I can take night pictures
with my digi cam - but the shots are VERY speckly, and not much good for
anything..
I guess the best way to go is to consult a photography shop/expert about
it.. but i have seen digi cams advertised on the internet that take
several shots per second.. whether they're good for night time shooting
or not i don't know..
> Greg Curtis wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> Has anyone had any experience taking lightning photos with a digital
> camera? If so any tips. What features should I look for in a digital
> camera to take these photos. Obviously with a 35mm camera it is a
> matter of opening the shutter and wait, but how is it done with a
> digital?
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg Curtis
> Brisbane
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 00:10:59 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Anthony, Everyone..
Yes i vaguely remember a phone call early on Monday morning - i didn't
make it to my lookout though.. i woke up on the lounge an hour later
with my digi cam by my side.. if Anthony had of said 'storm' i would
have been at my lookout by the end of the phonecall :P
I did get a few snaps of a nice sunset on Sunday though..
Probably the best one..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/19-03-2000/19-03-200004.jpg
And a few more..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/19-03-2000/
Notice how the horizon is on an angle in most of the shots? That's the
result of a buggered digi cam .. lucky it's still under warranty! They
want a couple of weeks to fix it too, but they're not getting it until
winter
*end of dribble*
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Cornelius
> To: Australian Weather Mailing List
> Date: Monday, 20 March 2000 10:37
> Subject: aus-wx: Brilliant Rainbow over Brisbane this Morning
>
> >Hi all!
> >
> >Just home briefly from uni before I goto work...
> >
> >Did anyone see the brilliant rainbow over the Brisbane CBD this
> >morning??? And did anyone get photos!?!? I know rainbows look
> >different from different angles, and perhaps I was just lucky to be
> >caught in peak hour traffic on Stanley St to see it. It was one of the
> >brightest I've ever seen, and descended over the Brisbane CBD, and made
> >a brilliant arc to the south of that. I even phoned (and woke up) Ben
> >(much to his disgust), to see if he could see it from where he was - but
> >he may have been at the wrong angle.
> >--
> >Anthony Cornelius
> >Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> >(ASWA)
> >(07) 3390 4812
> >14 Kinsella St
> >Belmont, Brisbane
> >QLD, 4153
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003
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 06:57:28 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Ben and all,
Ben Quinn wrote:
> Notice how the horizon is on an angle in most of the shots? That's the
> result of a buggered digi cam .. lucky it's still under warranty! They
> want a couple of weeks to fix it too, but they're not getting it until
> winter
Could you please make sure you tell me when you put your digicam in to
get fixed so that I can put aside some time for the massive cold pool &
130kn jet that will sit over SE QLD for a week? The most convenient
time for me would be during my June/July uni holidays - however the
effect of me being on holidays might cancel out the effect that you not
having your digicam creates.
Forecasting on Murphy's Law can be remarkably accurate! For example,
during December I informed them that the first 2 weeks of March would be
amongst the most active weeks of our thunderstorm season. Well, due to
our dismal season, I believe we had more storm days in the first 2 weeks
in March, than the previous two months of Jan and Feb!! The reason why
I said the first 2 weeks of March would be so active was because I went
back to uni then.
Other days for Murphy's Law are Jan 01, 2000 - when there were numerous
supercells in SE QLD, it was a classic setup for right movers (somewhat
rare). Of course, we had relatives from overseas who were in Sydney and
originally unable to make it up here, call us on Dec 30 informing us
that they'll arrive on Jan 01 and spend just 23 hours with us before
going back home.
We have other relatives coming from overseas and staying with us for a
week during the week after Easter. So I suggest Brisbanites have plenty
of film for then! :)
--
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 03:33:41 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Wednesday 12pm
31.5mm for the 24 hours to 9am today
10mm in the 3 hours to 12pm since then.
Total for this month so far, 271mm
Not bad.
Lindsay P.
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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 13:35:09 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Do those more in the know than me on the list have some thoughts on the
La Nina phase we are in and how long it might potentially last for?
Is it reasonable to suggest a moderately (or less or more so? )positive
SOI will persist into early winter and further?
Would this positive SOI/La Nina event encourage more snowfalls this
season, considering the amount of moisture around?
Last winter we seemed to have more onshore (S/E) winds over the Central
Tablelands and not as many colder south westerlies. Remember those
gigantic, blocking highs?
Lindsay P.
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 13:11:53 +1100
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
A Gale warning current for all Tasmanian Coastal waters. It looks like
the equinoctial gales have set in.
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
1pm coastal stations
CAPE SORELL
WIND NNE 33KT
Wave rider significant wave height: 2.1m
Maximum height over the past 3 hours: 3.9m
Average period: 7 secs
MARRAWAH
NO REPORT
CAPE GRIM
WIND NNE 29KT
MAATSUYKER IS
WIND N 18KT
SEA SMOOTH HEIGHT <0.5M
SWELL SW LOW HEIGHT 2M
LOW ROCKY PT
WIND N 23KT
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:00:53 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,
Got a bit of a surprise when i woke up this morning - looked out my
window to see a ragged shelf cloud heading towards me! Sure - this is
basically a coastal shower - but it definitely has that 'i'm a try hard
storm' look to it..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/22-03-2000/22-03-200001.jpg
Unfortunately my car broke down at the servo (*sigh*) and i couldn't get
in a position to take decent pictures (ie. without power lines and
houses in the pictures).. but i did manage to borrow a bike (eeeek) for
a few minutes to grab these pictures..
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/22-03-2000/22-03-200002.jpg
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/22-03-2000/22-03-200003.jpg
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/assor/22-03-2000/22-03-200004.jpg
I ended up with 6mm in under 5 mins.. which works out to be a rain rate
in excess of 70mm/h - radar showed light blue over me (2-10mm/h rain
rate)..
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Videos??
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 12:16:57 +1100
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Jimmy,
I'd like to get a copy of the tape. Cost is no worry for me, so just let me
know and I'll send the money.
Paul Yole
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
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Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 9:21 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Videos??
> Hi everyone,
>
> Some may recall the End of Year chase with brief tornadic circulation on
> day 3 of the chase. Some people may have asked me to produce the video for
> them but I have tried to get out of it because of the work involved
getting
> it dubbed from the 8mm tape to the VHS tape. But there is good news now.
>
> I have been in contact with Tim Pascoe. He says if I can get the order of
> those who would like to purchase a copy of the footage on tape, he could
> get it mass produced based on the number of copies wanted. I felt this
> could be a money raiser for ASWA as well. By charging $15, which is what I
> charged Anthony, then we could raise say approximately $5 per tape (or
> perhaps more) for ASWA (I will see what the overall costs are).
>
> Now what I need to see is a show of interest from those who are interested
> to purchase a copy to e-mail me jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> If the cost doesn't work out, then the deal falls through. However, it
> should be ok. So if you are interested, please e-mail me in the next few
> days. The footage I showed last night was clear.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" [billwebb at tpgi.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: La Nina Phase
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:58:43 +1000
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Hi Lindsay and all,
Some of your questions may be answered by going to
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/ENSO-summary.shtml
and following links further.
Also, and you may have it, go to
http://www.dnr.qld.gov.au/longpdk/
I have e-mailed your request to a friend of mine who is a senior scientist
(climatology) with the Qld Center for Climate Applications in Toowoomba.
Expect a response sometime.
Regards,
Bill in Proserpine NQ.
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From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 7:35 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Re: La Nina Phase
> Do those more in the know than me on the list have some thoughts on the
> La Nina phase we are in and how long it might potentially last for?
>
> Is it reasonable to suggest a moderately (or less or more so? )positive
> SOI will persist into early winter and further?
>
> Would this positive SOI/La Nina event encourage more snowfalls this
> season, considering the amount of moisture around?
>
> Last winter we seemed to have more onshore (S/E) winds over the Central
> Tablelands and not as many colder south westerlies. Remember those
> gigantic, blocking highs?
>
> Lindsay P.
>
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:25:27 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Hi Bill, Lindsay & all,
Dr. David Jones might also have something to add if he
gets to read this...Good links, Bill...I've also posted
some stuff about what Lindsay raises in the past.
Basically, I took a long, hard look at SOI v/s snowfall
and concluded that the correllation wasn't that good in
the region of the best seasons but that the worst seasons
certainly came along with drought periods typical of a
very -ve SOI (El Nino). Very strong La Nina's were also
not that good for snow since it seems that more rain fell
than snow, particularly in later seasons as the mean
global and regional temperatures have risen. Best seasons
came with average, but slightly La Nina conditions.
When you delve more deeply, what happens in our winter
is very much a function of SST's in the Indian and Pacific
oceans near to Australia and the pattern of the Antartic
Circumpolar Current. (ACC) that affects the Southern Ocean.
This creates, if you like, a "wave" that tends to direct
the formation, intensification and movement of weather
systems - the blocking high effect. Moving that wave west
or east of its "norm" means the difference between lots
of snowy cold fronts over the Snowy Mountains or very few
at all. More important is a sustained moist-cold air flow
from the SW that brings large amounts of orographic
snowfall over many days. So if the conditions are right
to have the fronts build up and dump in the right place
with the SW air-flow remaining a few days, then we'll
get a good snow season.
When you examine SST anomally against MSLP anomally, it's
very easy to spot that a cold anomally encourages highs
and a warm anomally encourages lows. What's important for
our snow is where these lows come from i.e warm or cold
cored. Too much warm water in the Indian Ocean is bad
news for cold-cored lows. Same goes for the Pacific and
down south. Look for average to slightly colder conditions
in both the Indian, Pacific and Southern Oceans where our
winter lows come from. This is just about optimal for the
best seasons. As for the coming season, I'm yet to stick
my neck out and shoot for a prediction, but looking at
the SST's is encouraging. About May is a better time.
Other SOI/El Nino/La Nina links that are worthwhile
examining can be found at;
http://www.ogp.noaa.gov/enso/
The one at COLA is pretty good also;
http://grads.iges.org/nino/
The current La Nina phase is predicted to strengthen
during our winter and return to average by the end
of our summmer in 2001. This is historically good for
rain and not snow, but there have been some exceptions
provided the SST's stay lower.
SST anomalies are slightly warmer in the immediate
regions of Indian and Pacific Oceans. There are pockets
remaining of a cold anomaly east of QLD, but that seems
to be weakening. Immediately south is slightly warmer
also as the very warm Indian Ocean Anomaly is breaking
up and dissipating in the W to E current under Australia.
Further south than this is more cold anomaly, so the
outlook is for basically near average SST's all around.
This is good for snow. My only fear is a body of very
warm water near East Africa that might make it's way
east and warm up our winter water to the south. Watch
this space...Otherwise, it looks like being colder than
average temperature-wise. Combine that with average
SST's and lots of moisture in my mind adds up to a
good snow season coming up. But then, I'm not making
a prediction, are I?
But at the end of the day, much of our winter weather
originates and is affected by the Indian & Southern
Oceans which I think only the BoM has any state-of-
the-art models derived from. I just wish they had the
funding to make them as flashy and open as some of the
others...
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
"W.A. (Bill) Webb" wrote on Wed, 22 Mar 2000 14:58:43 +1000:
>
> Hi Lindsay and all,
>
> Some of your questions may be answered by going to
> http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/ENSO-summary.shtml
> and following links further.
>
> Also, and you may have it, go to
> http://www.dnr.qld.gov.au/longpdk/
>
> I have e-mailed your request to a friend of mine who is a
> senior scientist (climatology) with the Qld Center for
> Climate Applications in Toowoomba. Expect a response
> sometime.
>
> Regards,
> Bill in Proserpine NQ.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lindsay
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 7:35 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Re: La Nina Phase
>
> > Do those more in the know than me on the list have some
> > thoughts on the La Nina phase we are in and how long it
> > might potentially last for?
> >
> > Is it reasonable to suggest a moderately (or less or
> > more so? )positive SOI will persist into early winter
> > and further?
> >
> > Would this positive SOI/La Nina event encourage more
> > snowfalls this season, considering the amount of
> > moisture around?
> >
> > Last winter we seemed to have more onshore (S/E) winds
> > over the Central Tablelands and not as many colder
> > south westerlies. Remember those gigantic, blocking
> > highs?
> >
> > Lindsay P.
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From: "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brilliant Rainbow over Brisbane this Morning
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:04:20 +1000
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Hi Anthony,
Yes I did notice the rainbow, and it was over the CBD. I was on the train.
The train had just left Albion station (approx 7:50 am) and we where
travelling throught the Mayne goods yard. I did not notice that it was
particularly bright.
A few months ago a rainbow "travelled" with the train from Bald Hills all
the way to Northgate. It appear to be only a few 100 meters away too.
Regards,
Anthony Spierings
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> Cornelius
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> Subject: aus-wx: Brilliant Rainbow over Brisbane this Morning
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> Just home briefly from uni before I goto work...
>
> Did anyone see the brilliant rainbow over the Brisbane CBD this
> morning??? And did anyone get photos!?!? I know rainbows look
> different from different angles, and perhaps I was just lucky to be
> caught in peak hour traffic on Stanley St to see it. It was one of the
> brightest I've ever seen, and descended over the Brisbane CBD, and made
> a brilliant arc to the south of that. I even phoned (and woke up) Ben
> (much to his disgust), to see if he could see it from where he was - but
> he may have been at the wrong angle.
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: S.E Australia Sat Pics
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 21:37:20 +1100
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Hey All
With the help of Ben Quinn, thanks again Ben, I have added a java viewer for
my sat pic animations
This has made it a lot easier to update the site.
Test it out here
http://members.xoom.com/nsykes/sesatpics/javasatpic.html
Updates will be whenever I can until I have worked out a way of automating
the cropping of the pics and uploading them to my site.
Basically if I am on icq, the animation will be updated hourly.
Today's Animation shows the beautiful frontal passage over SE Australia
Nick Sykes
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 22:29:20 +1100
From: David Carroll [davidkc at nia.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Central Coast Weather
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HI ,
Could anyone pls let me know how the weather is and will be for this
weekend around Gosford area,, does not look real promising now..
Thanks
Dave
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