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From Subject -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au] Updating SE Sat Pic Animation 002 peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] Bom hourly satpic 003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Another article - 9th March wall cloud event 004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Video Footage of QLD Storms Wanted 005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Thargomindah......with apologies to the locals. 006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] 9th March Pics - Wall Cloud????? 007 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] 9th March Pics - Wall Cloud????? 008 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Thunderstorm Animations 009 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] #Weather Footy Tips 010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance? 011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance? 012 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Bom hourly satpic 013 steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au] Bom hourly satpic 014 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] MJ Absent 015 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] MJ Absent 016 "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au] MJ Absent 017 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Another article - 9th March wall cloud event 018 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] NSW Storms Tomorrow? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 001 From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Updating SE Sat Pic Animation Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:54:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All Well last night was the big test to see if all my automation scripts etc work for my sat pic animation site, and I am please to write that so far everything is going well. Every hour (there abouts, sometimes more regular, I will put update times up in the next e-mail) the next sat pic for the loop is added :) check it out at http://members.xoom.com/nsykes/ It uses the NPMOC gms 5 sat pic. remember to refresh your browser Nick Sykes +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 002 Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:46:58 +1000 From: peter matters [pmatters at eck.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Bom hourly satpic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, does anyone have the new url for the boms hourly satpic from the ssu? It seems to have changed from what I had bookmarked. Thanks Peter (Didjman) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 003 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:14:52 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another article - 9th March wall cloud event Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, Very good report! But a suggestion with the model date - especially the winds. ARL has a much nicer and smoother archive dataset then the raw data site has. You can choose vectors, wind flags, or you can use speed + streamlines. Using streamines + winds makes it a little easier to see areas of confluence/convergence/difluence/divergence, and the wind strengths are much smoother than that on raw data. For example, the data looks very rough - and while it's most probably just as accurate as ARL, it certainly looks a lot nicer and more presentable on ARL. ARL also keeps a 6-8 month archive of information on the Southern Hemisphere too! That includes skew-ts and Theta-E diagrams etc. Simply goto: http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/amet.html And flick on FNL for data based maps, or your desired category, and then choose a dataset (sh stands for Southern Hemisphere), and 001 and 002 stand for which half of the month it's available in. Or, you can goto the current 15 days. FNL is simply archived AVN analysis data.-- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 004 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:17:04 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Video Footage of QLD Storms Wanted Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Malcolm, Hmm, thanks for pointing out a hole in my 'safety net.' Fortunately, the docoumentary should be after you visit QLD, so I'm safe :-) But I might have to add something into me 'safety net' about any of the NE NSW guys coming up here Ben was informing you that you'll be coming to Brisbane? It'll be great if a few of the guys (and gals too!) meet up somewhere! Malcolm Ninnes wrote: > > Excellent, sounds great Anthony! > > However, I'll be coming up to QLD from April 3rd-9th, and you said the death > penalty would apply to anyone 'sending' the segment over the border...you > neglected to specify that it would apply if someone came up to collect a > copy and then returned to NSW with it :) > > Malcolm Ninnes > Unix Systems Admin / Operations Support > National Technical Services - Franklins Ltd > Ph. (02) 9722-1862 > ninnesm at franklins.com.au > > > ---------- > > From: Anthony Cornelius[SMTP:cyclone at flatrate.net.au] > > Sent: Thursday, 23 March 2000 10:33 > > To: Australian Weather Mailing List > > Subject: aus-wx: Video Footage of QLD Storms Wanted > > > > Hi all, > > > > As some of you know, I was interviewed (as a storm chaser) by a Channel > > 9 crew last week. This was for a documentary on QLD storms/TC's in the > > pre 1976 era, the 1976-present era, and the future to come and what we > > can expect. They approached James first, who then suggested I should do > > it. The entire interview took about 5 and a half hours, by the time > > they setup my study with lightning, took lots of different shots of me > > doing different things, and then went to Mt Cootha to shoot some 'action > > footage.' They brought in a helicopter and got me looking out into the > > sky and they taped me looking out into the sky. It got quite > > embarrassing actually as people were stopping and pulling off the road > > to watch :( The worse part was me having to stand there with my hands > > up in the sky, looking up as the helicopter flew over - very > > embarrassing! But a good cure for SDS is to have a helicopter fly just > > over you, it gets quite windy :-) > > > > Anyway, they're after some video footage of QLD t'storms. James and I > > have given them some, but they'd like some more. If anyone has any > > video footage, then please contact me and I'll contact Elizabeth, or > > contact Elizabeth Egan on the following details: > > > > Work Details: > > Office Ph Number: 3214 9999 > > Office Email: eegan at ninenet.com.au > > > > Mobile Number: 0408 457 096 (you can ring this number any time, > > including > > weekends) > > Home email: lizzie at gil.com.au > > > > The documentary will be on air soon, the tentative date is Sunday, April > > 16, 6:30-7:30pm - but that might change. > > > > Queenslanders Please Note: The death penalty shall be passed on to > > ANYONE who is involved in sending a copy of the segment I'm in past the > > Queensland border!!!!! :-) > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > 14 Kinsella St > > Belmont, Brisbane > > QLD, 4153 > > Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm > > reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 005 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:38:10 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thargomindah......with apologies to the locals. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You poor thing Rhett! I bet you were a changed man after this. Perhaps we should construct a list of things to do when the Quidge (Queensland Ridge), gets uncharecteristically active during storm season! (Or sub tropical ridge that pokes its head up too far north every 10-12 years). The result of an active Quidge is it pushes the storms (and storm chasers) inland. So we should construct a list of towns and things that you can do for entertainment. We can start the least exciting towns first: (Please note, I'm not trying to offend any country/towns people here!!! Just some humour from city vs country) Roma: 1) Get a group of 8 or 9 and all walk to the pizza place in the main street at 8:45pm at night, 15 mins before it closes, and watch the girl at the counter panic as she calls the cook to come back in. 2) Stay at the caravan park, and stay in a caravan and work out the "un-openable latch." And then trying and work out how to get back into the caravan without breaking anything. It's now 12:30am, and you're not allowed to wake the owner up. (This was fun James ). Charleville: 1) Visit the Warrego Wizzard! 2) Work out which tap has cold water, and which has hot water. Then work out why they bother with hot water, as the supposedly cold water is hotter than the 'hot water'! 3) Stay in motels with mottos of "Why lock the door when there are no windows anyway?" Cunnamulla: 1) Play cricket in the 'ready made cricket field' 60km west of the town. 2) Play 'flood water brandy' after 10mm of rain. 3) Wait until the teachers get drunk at local restaurant (near some good accomodation), and watch table dancing. Bourke: 1) Goto the bowls club and visit the Chinese Restaurant to see the 'tripod.' 2) Play 'pop that button!' Of course, the town with the most excitement was Thargomindah! Thargomindah: 1) Share a few drinks with the locals to get a few people to talk to. 2) Share a few rounds with the locals to get some entertainment out in the carpark after 12:30am. 3) Share many rounds with the locals to get them to kill each other 4) Walk into the restaurant with a group of about 13 and ask for dinner. Watch the daughter run into the backroom, and her mother running back out telling you to all get out of her restaurant as you should have given them 4-5hours notice that you were going to eat there. (Serious note, the pub has a $6 BBQ which wasn't bad). 5) Play roulette with the showers, and see if you smell worse or better after you have a shower. I could go on, but I don't want to sound totally crazy It's amazing what we take for granted in the city though. If you do think I've lost it - blame it on studying for a maths exam later this evening and trying to keep my sanity about that! -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 006 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:50:37 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 9th March Pics - Wall Cloud????? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, In regards to non-precipitating convective clouds giving wall clouds, wouldn't the presence of the cloud over a parcel of air be enough to cool the air parcel underneath? This would then lower the LCL. I'm only speculating here, but an example would be: A large CJ (Congestus) would form, and the updraft would continue to retain its intensity. The updraft then causes an area of lower pressure under the base (which as Leslie Lemon said is not quite significant enough to lower the LCL with any significant height). This will then assist in allowing more air underneath the CJ to rise. But if the air has been cooled a few degrees, then it's going to condense at a lower temperature. For example, 30/24 will condense at a lower level than 33/24 would. Could this have at least a part to play in the assistance of a wall cloud developing underneath a non-precipitating convective cloud? -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 007 From: "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: 9th March Pics - Wall Cloud????? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:59:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, With regard to the drop in pressure not being enough to lower the LCL, surely this is entirely dependent upon how close the air is to the dew point. If it is very close for a substantial depth beneath the cloud, then only a small drop in pressure may have a large effect. Presumably though, a more likely cause is condensation in air, subject to localised lifting from ground level, which is more saturated than air otherwise occurring in the layer immediately below the cloud. (I am assuming that a wall cloud marks a zone of horizontal convergence beneath the cloud which will cause lifting of air from the surface, assisted by the updraft which propagates vertical motion downward). This explanation is confirmed by the shelf cloud formation, which is caused by surface air being lifted by storm outflow, which condenses significantly lower than the cloud base and not infrequently at 50% the distance between cloud base and ground for summertime Brisbane storms (ha, in those that we used to have) when ground level humidity is high. Regards, John. >snip Hi all, In regards to non-precipitating convective clouds giving wall clouds, wouldn't the presence of the cloud over a parcel of air be enough to cool the air parcel underneath? This would then lower the LCL. I'm only speculating here, but an example would be: A large CJ (Congestus) would form, and the updraft would continue to retain its intensity. The updraft then causes an area of lower pressure under the base (which as Leslie Lemon said is not quite significant enough to lower the LCL with any significant height). This will then assist in allowing more air underneath the CJ to rise. But if the air has been cooled a few degrees, then it's going to condense at a lower temperature. For example, 30/24 will condense at a lower level than 33/24 would. Could this have at least a part to play in the assistance of a wall cloud developing underneath a non-precipitating convective cloud? -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 008 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:04:50 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorm Animations Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, A new 'Animations' section has been added to BSCH - this of course contains animation's or video footage of storms - mostly from SE Queensland.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/animations.htm There are only 3 animation's there at the moment - but more will be added over the next month or so.. -- Ben Quinn The Brisbane Storm Chasers Homepage (BSCH) http://www.bsch.simplenet.com The Australian Weather Pages Webring http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/webring/index.htm NEMAS (North East Media of Atmospheric Science) Weather Education Pages http://www.nemas.net/edu/index.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 009 X-Sender: astroman at mail.chariot.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:40:01 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: #Weather Footy Tips Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Tipsters, It is that time again. To put your tips in for the #Weather Footy Tipping comp. I am very happy no one tipped that draw between the Eagles and the Saints. If you had that would have earnt you 5 points. As it was newcomer to the tipping comp Weatherhead did well getting 12.5 points in his very first round. This takes him 3rd on the overall ladder as since he joined late he was given the average score minus 1 point which put him on 17 before he even got going. Some people have all the luck. Speaking of the overall ladder Gorzzz is now in the number 1 spot on 32.5 points, followed by Cosborn on 30.5, and Weatherhead on 29.5 Astrolady, Ira, Virga and Werty all have equal last on 20.5 (Virga never did his tips last week) So that is all from me, dont forget to vote all tips must be in by FRIDAY 31 MARCH at 6PM EST Till next week Kathryn Jolly & Jacob Aufdemkampe +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 010 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:53:45 +1000 From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au] Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've been looking closely at alternative means of running the ASWA archive including setting up the archive using either Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance broadband cable internet services. At first glance, these services seem attractive...large download bandwidth, offers of "unlimited" MB download etc. Sure, if you hit a big file, it'll be downloaded more quickly, so these services are designed to appeal toward the frustrated, but somewhat richer personal internet user. But there's a catch...it lies within what both providers term the "Acceptable User Policy" that applies under the contract. Firstly, these policies can be altered without notice while your contract is in force. That's really nasty because if there is a vague aspect, then later on, you can expect that vague aspect to be covered with the result that you might find your- self in breach of the policy. As I was looking at running an archive, then my access would be automated and result in the download of about 50MB/day. Thats about $9.50 per day ($3467.50 PA) at BigPond Direct rates (ouch!). But that's where the fun begins because with these so-called "unlimited" or "flat-rate" download options, you'll find arbitrary, change at any time "limits" imposed... With the Optus at Home policy found at; http://www.optushome.com.au/aup.html the words chosen in particular say about this that "...Users must ensure that their activity does not improperly restrict, inhibit, or degrade any other user's use of the Services, nor represent (in the sole judgement of Optus) an unusually large burden on the network itself..." Now that's pretty vague in legal terms. Optus also prohibit the operation of "servers" but they only cite some types as examples. Given a potential ASWA archive first test case, I'm sure that an "archive server" will become one of those types eventually:-) With the Telstra-Advance policy found at; http://www.bigpond.com/advance/announcement/aup.htm the words are more explicit "...5.7 You must not use automated programs to continually send or receive high volumes of data via the service...". Bullseye, that stuffs the archive up:-( But that "high volumes of data" term needs to be tested. BigPond also prohibit the operation of "servers" and also "LANs". There are less "grey areas" in the Telstra policy than Optus's. Perhaps that's a direct function of lessons learned through dealings with the ACCC and media:-) The content of these policies and the right that the providers have in terms of varying the conditions of the policy without notice are a major concern to anyone considering their use. Then there's the whole gammet of both vague and sometimes explicit conditions stated which one can't put any reasonable bounds around like "what is degradation of any other user's use of the services?" or "what is a high volume of data?" Any further reader's comments or experiences? Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 011 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:39:24 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael and all, I was actually planning on sending a similar email this evening MS - but you beat me too it :-) I too have been scanning through the Optus at Home or BigPuddle-Advance (apologies to Telstra workers and other Telstra employees/friends on this list), and became rather suspect of the little star above the "unlimitted downloads" and the "acceptable usage policy." Certainly, Optus' AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) is less strict, and isn't quite as explicit as Telstra's. I believe Telstra BidPuddle-Advance is available in my area at the moment (but please correct me if I'm wrong!) But I have decided to wait for Optus at Home due to the less restrictions on the "Acceptable Usage Policy." No doubt they'll crack down on heavy downloaders, in fact - I wouldn't be surprised to see restrictions put on downloads in the near future. If anyone is thinking of archiving, I'd certainly advise people to pay the higher upfront installation fee, rather than be forced into a 12-18 month contract. My experience of 12 month contracts with ISP's has not been pleasant. They've already got your money for now, and that's what they care about. Since then, I've only ever paid my ISP account monthly (even though it costs more, you've always got the opportunity to change). My ISP Flatrate tried to crack down on heavy downloaders (like myself), who downloaded in excess of what they believed was reasonable for a home user. Yet, I'm supposedly on an "unlimitted hours, and unlimitted downloads" connection plan. I was averaging about 400-450 hours (I wasn't actually always at the computer though!), but their main gripe was my ~800mb/month download usage. I phoned and complained, and had a guy try to tell me that "It's unlimitted to the extent of a reasonable limit" of which I replied "So there's a limit on my connection, so it's not really unlimiitted then?" To which he replied "No, it's unlimitted, but to a reasonable amount, your download usage is not what we'd consider a normal user to use." To which I replied (defencively), "So my connection is not unlimitted, and you consider me abnormal?" Which got him rather tongue twisted :-) He tried to convince me to move to a business plan, of which I refused. A few days later, they added a $80/month business plan that had no cutoffs. The no cutoffs lit up my eyes, and I thought I'd go on it - only to be refused to allowed to go on it, as 1 week later they were going to remove it. Again in January, they were planning to trial the $80/plan no cutoff plan, and then got denied to switch to it because quote "I don't believe you need to switch to that connection plan sir." Which got me rather confused :-) Recently - I've been experimenting with a download utiliy Nick has been using, and I have been able to keep a fairly good archive of sat pics, and eastern Australia radars for the past 9 days. I've even (sort of), gotten around my 15min disconnect wait time at the end of 4hrs when I et cutoff (by scheduling myself to be cutoff at 3hrs and 55mins, and having it reconnect immediately). This month, I have used 425 hours (although one day, apparently I used 24.78 hours :-) and I have downloaded 1.26gig. This will be the third month in a row I've downloaded in excess of 1gig. I'll actually probably end up downloading around 1.4-1.5gig this month given the extra data (~50-60mb a day), I use in my archives. Next month, this will possibly approach 2gig! I'm going to be interested to see what my ISP says about this, even after offering to go on a higher-connection plan and being rejected to do so. Certainly, I'd be extremely warey of the so called "unlimitted downloads" on a 12-18 month contract on Optus at Home and BigPuddle-Advance, as I would not be surprised to see these capped unfortunately :-( Michael Scollay wrote: > -- Anthony Cornelius Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 14 Kinsella St Belmont, Brisbane QLD, 4153 Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 012 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:46:07 -0800 From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bom hourly satpic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, Peter, I've had the same problem. The new url would be appreciated. Lindsay P. peter matters wrote: > > Hi all, > does anyone have the new url for the boms hourly satpic from the > ssu? It seems to have changed from what I had bookmarked. > Thanks Peter (Didjman) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 013 X-Sender: bayns at mail.broad.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:10:08 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: steve baynham [bayns at broad.net.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bom hourly satpic Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi guys, i don't know where its gone, but it is still available, as these guys still manage http://www.myweather.com.au/img/sat-img/ausloop.gif but i still tried looking for it, but no luck! steve +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 014 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:08:36 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au] Subject: aus-wx: MJ Absent Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mark Dwyer (MJ) phoned me to say that he will be in hospital for the next few days or so because he has pneumonia. So if you've been trying to contact him and havent had a response yet, that is the reason. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 015 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:16:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: MJ Absent Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jacob, I hope he gets better soon. My brother had that last year and I can tell you it is not pleasant. Send my "get better" wishes and those from ASWA. Jimmy Deguara At 14:08 27/03/00 +0800, you wrote: >Mark Dwyer (MJ) phoned me to say that he will be in hospital for the next >few days or so because he has pneumonia. > >So if you've been trying to contact him and havent had a response yet, that >is the reason. > >Jacob > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 016 From: "Max King" [mnk at Dingoblue.net.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: MJ Absent Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 04:45:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Jacob, If ya see Mark give him all my regards and and best wishes and tell him I hope he feels better really soon. Max ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: MJ Absent > Jacob, > > I hope he gets better soon. My brother had that last year and I can tell > you it is not pleasant. Send my "get better" wishes and those from ASWA. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 14:08 27/03/00 +0800, you wrote: > > >Mark Dwyer (MJ) phoned me to say that he will be in hospital for the next > >few days or so because he has pneumonia. > > > >So if you've been trying to contact him and havent had a response yet, that > >is the reason. > > > >Jacob > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 017 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:07:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another article - 9th March wall cloud event Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the advice. I have made changes and additions. Actually now you can make some important observations in the report based on the model data, particularly with the upper level jet information. www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm Jimmy Deguara At 10:14 27/03/00 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Jimmy, > >Very good report! But a suggestion with the model date - especially the >winds. > >ARL has a much nicer and smoother archive dataset then the raw data site >has. You can choose vectors, wind flags, or you can use speed + >streamlines. Using streamines + winds makes it a little easier to see >areas of confluence/convergence/difluence/divergence, and the wind >strengths are much smoother than that on raw data. For example, the >data looks very rough - and while it's most probably just as accurate as >ARL, it certainly looks a lot nicer and more presentable on ARL. ARL >also keeps a 6-8 month archive of information on the Southern Hemisphere >too! That includes skew-ts and Theta-E diagrams etc. > >Simply goto: > >http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/amet.html > >And flick on FNL for data based maps, or your desired category, and then >choose a dataset (sh stands for Southern Hemisphere), and 001 and 002 >stand for which half of the month it's available in. Or, you can goto >the current 15 days. FNL is simply archived AVN analysis data. > > >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association >(ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >14 Kinsella St >Belmont, Brisbane >QLD, 4153 >Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm >reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 X-Originating-IP: [210.84.12.25] From: "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: NSW Storms Tomorrow? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:35:10 PST Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, The latest NGP has a very dynamic upper level trough approaching the SE of NSW tomorrow evening, resulting in a 130 kt jetstream at the 300mb height. Presently, very dry air sits over most of the SE but moist air is beginning to intrude at the mid=levels from the NW of the continent resulting in a rainband to the S. Only a thin tongue of low level moisture about 1500m deep sits over E NSW from the onshore flow with the very dry air immdetiately above. Although it looks like it may be a little on the dry side for storms, I think this one is worth watching out for and keeping a camera on the ready. - Paul G. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------
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