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001 "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net] Savage Planet
002 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
003 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
004 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
005 David Carroll [davidkc at nia.net.au] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
006 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
007 Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
008 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Another article - 9th March wall cloud event
009 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] New WX section...
010 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] BSCH Picture Update
011 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au A Date for your diary
012 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Savage Planet
013 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] BSCH Picture Update
014 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au] Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
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001
From: "Les Crossan" [les.crossan at virgin.net]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
"Jane ONeill"
Subject: aus-wx: Savage Planet
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:02:46 +0100
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List:
Been lurking 4 a while due to lack of
action and website construction.
I've just seen the trailer for "Savage
Planet", to be broadcast at 2230BST / 2130z in my part of the UK next week. The
trailer showed a HUGE IC / CC with the Sydney Harbour Bridge niceley lit up in
the foreground. Wow, hope I'm not away...
The programme's about lightning... i'll be
recording it and possibly MPEGging it so i can send it off to my state
rep.
I'll tell you more next week.
Les (UK)
PS the microguster is back on the
indexpage.
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01-30W
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Enthusiast
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Melbourne
Storm Chasers (MSC) - Victoria, AUS
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Email:
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:02:21 +1000
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From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
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I just signed up with bigpond advance, getting it installed next wednesday,
although they have run out of modems believe it or not... and they will get
the modem to me ASAP when they get them from wherever they get them from :)
Matt Smith
>[snip...]
>
>Nick Sykes wrote:
>>
>> One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
>> unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
>> probably start investigating when a user reaches
>> 15gb/month"...
>[snip...]
>
>That's great to know, Nick and many thanks. Any response
>from BigPond Advance users on this issue?
>
>Michael Scollay mailto:mscollay at telstra.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:06:02 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Matt Smith wrote:
>
> I just signed up with bigpond advance, getting it installed
> next wednesday, although they have run out of modems believe
> it or not... and they will get the modem to me ASAP when they
> get them from wherever they get them from :)
Thanks Matt,
Let me know how it goes (eventually). Also, it would sound
better from you rather than me if you asked BigPond Advance
people to clarify what they mean by a "high volume of data".
A figure like "15 gigabytes / month" from Optus (via Nick
Sykes) would be an ideal benchmark.
[snip Nick Syke's message]
Michael Scollay mailto:mscollay at telstra.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:22:16 +1000
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From: Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]
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At 15:35 28-03-00 +1000, you wrote:
>[snip...]
>
>Nick Sykes wrote:
>>
>> One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
>> unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
>> probably start investigating when a user reaches
>> 15gb/month"...
>[snip...]
>
>That's great to know, Nick and many thanks. Any response
>from BigPond Advance users on this issue?
The Bigpond Advance Freedom plan ( which is the unlimited download one) has
a 400 kbit/s (50kbyte/s) download limit. Optus at home has no speed restrictions.
Both have a 128kbit/s (16 kbyte/s) upload speed restriction. So if you plan
to run a server, for weather data, images or whatever, 16 kilobytes/sec is
the maximum speed that you can send files out. And of course, running
servers is against the terms of the acceptable usage policy.
Ben Munro
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 18:14:17 +1000
From: David Carroll [davidkc at nia.net.au]
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Hey,
Im in Bathurst,, so I think it might be awhile before we get this Direct
Access,, the speed sounds fantastic.. I get unlimited downloads now for $45 a
month,, but GB..
This all sounds too good to be true..
Optus pls intall here in Bx..
Dave
Nick Sykes wrote:
> Hey All
>
> I have been using Optus cable internet for about a
> month, and so far I have to say the service is great.
>
> Only had one real problem when their DNS server went
> down and I had to manually configure my IP address, 5
> min later all was fine.
>
> Re: the download limit
>
> I can easily say I have downloaded gigabytes worth of
> data this month.
>
> When online I often listen to streamed CD quality
> radio stations at 90kb/s while surfing. This will
> certainly add to my download. As well as this I am
> saving huge amounts of mp3's, software, game demos,
> weather data, sat pics and alike.
>
> O.K enough crapping on, but I would have to say that I
> would be approaching 5gig.
>
> I have subscribed to the optus newsgroups and chatted
> with fellow users that have downloaded gigabytes per
> day and haven't heard a word from Optus.
>
> One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
> unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
> probably start investigating when a user reaches
> 15gb/month"
>
> 15gb, 500mb per day, now thats a lot.
>
> For heavy internet use I believe cable is certainly an
> option to look at.
>
> Speed leaves dial-up for dead, it's a permanent
> connection, no need for a second phone line or phone
> calls and so far, they seem to be holding true on the
> no download limit.
> You can also share the connection on a second computer
> by simply adding a network card to the other computer
> and connecting them with a bit of coaxial)
>
> (There are now some crazy uses of the Optus service
> "testing ", the download limit, by downloading
> unbelievable amounts of data (I think they have to
> much spare time))
>
> I do not know a lot about the Bigbond Advance
> services, but do know they have some sort of download
> cap on the speed.
>
> I might look into the download issue a little further
> by asking around.
>
> If anyone needs further info or examples of speed etc,
> yell out.
>
> Nick Sykes
>
> P.S
>
> Had a problem with my SE Australia Sat Pic site, will
> be busy the next few nights, so will fix it in a few
> days.
>
> --- Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> > Hi Michael and all,
> >
> > I was actually planning on sending a similar email
> > this evening MS - but
> > you beat me too it :-)
> >
> > I too have been scanning through the Optus at Home or
> > BigPuddle-Advance
> > (apologies to Telstra workers and other Telstra
> > employees/friends
> > on this list), and became rather suspect of the
> > little star above the
> > "unlimitted downloads" and the "acceptable usage
> > policy." Certainly,
> > Optus' AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) is less strict,
> > and isn't quite as
> > explicit as Telstra's. I believe Telstra
> > BidPuddle-Advance is available
> > in my area at the moment (but please correct me if
> > I'm wrong!) But I
> > have decided to wait for Optus at Home due to the less
> > restrictions on the
> > "Acceptable Usage Policy." No doubt they'll crack
> > down on heavy
> > downloaders, in fact - I wouldn't be surprised to
> > see restrictions put
> > on downloads in the near future. If anyone is
> > thinking of archiving,
> > I'd certainly advise people to pay the higher
> > upfront installation fee,
> > rather than be forced into a 12-18 month contract.
> > My experience of 12
> > month contracts with ISP's has not been pleasant.
> > They've already got
> > your money for now, and that's what they care about.
> > Since then, I've
> > only ever paid my ISP account monthly (even though
> > it costs more, you've
> > always got the opportunity to change).
> >
> > My ISP Flatrate tried to crack down on heavy
> > downloaders (like myself),
> > who downloaded in excess of what they believed was
> > reasonable for a home
> > user. Yet, I'm supposedly on an "unlimitted hours,
> > and unlimitted
> > downloads" connection plan. I was averaging about
> > 400-450 hours (I
> > wasn't actually always at the computer though!), but
> > their main gripe
> > was my ~800mb/month download usage. I phoned and
> > complained, and had a
> > guy try to tell me that "It's unlimitted to the
> > extent of a reasonable
> > limit" of which I replied "So there's a limit on my
> > connection, so it's
> > not really unlimiitted then?" To which he replied
> > "No, it's unlimitted,
> > but to a reasonable amount, your download usage is
> > not what we'd
> > consider a normal user to use." To which I replied
> > (defencively), "So
> > my connection is not unlimitted, and you consider me
> > abnormal?" Which
> > got him rather tongue twisted :-) He tried to
> > convince me to move to a
> > business plan, of which I refused. A few days
> > later, they added a
> > $80/month business plan that had no cutoffs. The no
> > cutoffs lit up my
> > eyes, and I thought I'd go on it - only to be
> > refused to allowed to go
> > on it, as 1 week later they were going to remove it.
> > Again in January,
> > they were planning to trial the $80/plan no cutoff
> > plan, and then got
> > denied to switch to it because quote "I don't
> > believe you need to switch
> > to that connection plan sir." Which got me rather
> > confused :-)
> >
> > Recently - I've been experimenting with a download
> > utiliy Nick has been
> > using, and I have been able to keep a fairly good
> > archive of sat pics,
> > and eastern Australia radars for the past 9 days.
> > I've even (sort of),
> > gotten around my 15min disconnect wait time at the
> > end of 4hrs when I et
> > cutoff (by scheduling myself to be cutoff at 3hrs
> > and 55mins, and having
> > it reconnect immediately). This month, I have used
> > 425 hours (although
> > one day, apparently I used 24.78 hours :-) and I
> > have downloaded
> > 1.26gig. This will be the third month in a row I've
> > downloaded in
> > excess of 1gig. I'll actually probably end up
> > downloading around
> > 1.4-1.5gig this month given the extra data (~50-60mb
> > a day), I use in my
> > archives. Next month, this will possibly approach
> > 2gig! I'm going to
> > be interested to see what my ISP says about this,
> > even after offering to
> > go on a higher-connection plan and being rejected to
> > do so.
> >
> > Certainly, I'd be extremely warey of the so called
> > "unlimitted
> > downloads" on a 12-18 month contract on Optus at Home
> > and
> > BigPuddle-Advance, as I would not be surprised to
> > see these capped
> > unfortunately :-(
> >
> > Michael Scollay wrote:
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Anthony Cornelius
> > Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe
> > Weather Association
> > (ASWA)
> > (07) 3390 4812
> > 14 Kinsella St
> > Belmont, Brisbane
> > QLD, 4153
> > Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland
> > severe thunderstorm
> > reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our
> > homepage at
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:35:41 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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[snip...]
Nick Sykes wrote:
>
> One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
> unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
> probably start investigating when a user reaches
> 15gb/month"...
[snip...]
That's great to know, Nick and many thanks. Any response
from BigPond Advance users on this issue?
Michael Scollay mailto:mscollay at telstra.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:59:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Nick Sykes [njsykes at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
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Hey All
I have been using Optus cable internet for about a
month, and so far I have to say the service is great.
Only had one real problem when their DNS server went
down and I had to manually configure my IP address, 5
min later all was fine.
Re: the download limit
I can easily say I have downloaded gigabytes worth of
data this month.
When online I often listen to streamed CD quality
radio stations at 90kb/s while surfing. This will
certainly add to my download. As well as this I am
saving huge amounts of mp3's, software, game demos,
weather data, sat pics and alike.
O.K enough crapping on, but I would have to say that I
would be approaching 5gig.
I have subscribed to the optus newsgroups and chatted
with fellow users that have downloaded gigabytes per
day and haven't heard a word from Optus.
One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
probably start investigating when a user reaches
15gb/month"
15gb, 500mb per day, now thats a lot.
For heavy internet use I believe cable is certainly an
option to look at.
Speed leaves dial-up for dead, it's a permanent
connection, no need for a second phone line or phone
calls and so far, they seem to be holding true on the
no download limit.
You can also share the connection on a second computer
by simply adding a network card to the other computer
and connecting them with a bit of coaxial)
(There are now some crazy uses of the Optus service
"testing ", the download limit, by downloading
unbelievable amounts of data (I think they have to
much spare time))
I do not know a lot about the Bigbond Advance
services, but do know they have some sort of download
cap on the speed.
I might look into the download issue a little further
by asking around.
If anyone needs further info or examples of speed etc,
yell out.
Nick Sykes
P.S
Had a problem with my SE Australia Sat Pic site, will
be busy the next few nights, so will fix it in a few
days.
--- Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi Michael and all,
>
> I was actually planning on sending a similar email
> this evening MS - but
> you beat me too it :-)
>
> I too have been scanning through the Optus at Home or
> BigPuddle-Advance
> (apologies to Telstra workers and other Telstra
> employees/friends
> on this list), and became rather suspect of the
> little star above the
> "unlimitted downloads" and the "acceptable usage
> policy." Certainly,
> Optus' AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) is less strict,
> and isn't quite as
> explicit as Telstra's. I believe Telstra
> BidPuddle-Advance is available
> in my area at the moment (but please correct me if
> I'm wrong!) But I
> have decided to wait for Optus at Home due to the less
> restrictions on the
> "Acceptable Usage Policy." No doubt they'll crack
> down on heavy
> downloaders, in fact - I wouldn't be surprised to
> see restrictions put
> on downloads in the near future. If anyone is
> thinking of archiving,
> I'd certainly advise people to pay the higher
> upfront installation fee,
> rather than be forced into a 12-18 month contract.
> My experience of 12
> month contracts with ISP's has not been pleasant.
> They've already got
> your money for now, and that's what they care about.
> Since then, I've
> only ever paid my ISP account monthly (even though
> it costs more, you've
> always got the opportunity to change).
>
> My ISP Flatrate tried to crack down on heavy
> downloaders (like myself),
> who downloaded in excess of what they believed was
> reasonable for a home
> user. Yet, I'm supposedly on an "unlimitted hours,
> and unlimitted
> downloads" connection plan. I was averaging about
> 400-450 hours (I
> wasn't actually always at the computer though!), but
> their main gripe
> was my ~800mb/month download usage. I phoned and
> complained, and had a
> guy try to tell me that "It's unlimitted to the
> extent of a reasonable
> limit" of which I replied "So there's a limit on my
> connection, so it's
> not really unlimiitted then?" To which he replied
> "No, it's unlimitted,
> but to a reasonable amount, your download usage is
> not what we'd
> consider a normal user to use." To which I replied
> (defencively), "So
> my connection is not unlimitted, and you consider me
> abnormal?" Which
> got him rather tongue twisted :-) He tried to
> convince me to move to a
> business plan, of which I refused. A few days
> later, they added a
> $80/month business plan that had no cutoffs. The no
> cutoffs lit up my
> eyes, and I thought I'd go on it - only to be
> refused to allowed to go
> on it, as 1 week later they were going to remove it.
> Again in January,
> they were planning to trial the $80/plan no cutoff
> plan, and then got
> denied to switch to it because quote "I don't
> believe you need to switch
> to that connection plan sir." Which got me rather
> confused :-)
>
> Recently - I've been experimenting with a download
> utiliy Nick has been
> using, and I have been able to keep a fairly good
> archive of sat pics,
> and eastern Australia radars for the past 9 days.
> I've even (sort of),
> gotten around my 15min disconnect wait time at the
> end of 4hrs when I et
> cutoff (by scheduling myself to be cutoff at 3hrs
> and 55mins, and having
> it reconnect immediately). This month, I have used
> 425 hours (although
> one day, apparently I used 24.78 hours :-) and I
> have downloaded
> 1.26gig. This will be the third month in a row I've
> downloaded in
> excess of 1gig. I'll actually probably end up
> downloading around
> 1.4-1.5gig this month given the extra data (~50-60mb
> a day), I use in my
> archives. Next month, this will possibly approach
> 2gig! I'm going to
> be interested to see what my ISP says about this,
> even after offering to
> go on a higher-connection plan and being rejected to
> do so.
>
> Certainly, I'd be extremely warey of the so called
> "unlimitted
> downloads" on a 12-18 month contract on Optus at Home
> and
> BigPuddle-Advance, as I would not be surprised to
> see these capped
> unfortunately :-(
>
> Michael Scollay wrote:
> >
>
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe
> Weather Association
> (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
> 14 Kinsella St
> Belmont, Brisbane
> QLD, 4153
> Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland
> severe thunderstorm
> reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our
> homepage at
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another article - 9th March wall cloud event
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 19:22:59 +1000
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The last two charts tell it all, the dry air in the middle layers and small
tongue of cooler air.
Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Monday, 27 March 2000 22:07
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Another article - 9th March wall cloud event
> Thanks for the advice. I have made changes and additions. Actually now you
> can make some important observations in the report based on the model
data,
> particularly with the upper level jet information.
>
> www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 10:14 27/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi Jimmy,
> >
> >Very good report! But a suggestion with the model date - especially the
> >winds.
> >
> >ARL has a much nicer and smoother archive dataset then the raw data site
> >has. You can choose vectors, wind flags, or you can use speed +
> >streamlines. Using streamines + winds makes it a little easier to see
> >areas of confluence/convergence/difluence/divergence, and the wind
> >strengths are much smoother than that on raw data. For example, the
> >data looks very rough - and while it's most probably just as accurate as
> >ARL, it certainly looks a lot nicer and more presentable on ARL. ARL
> >also keeps a 6-8 month archive of information on the Southern Hemisphere
> >too! That includes skew-ts and Theta-E diagrams etc.
> >
> >Simply goto:
> >
> >http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready/amet.html
> >
> >And flick on FNL for data based maps, or your desired category, and then
> >choose a dataset (sh stands for Southern Hemisphere), and 001 and 002
> >stand for which half of the month it's available in. Or, you can goto
> >the current 15 days. FNL is simply archived AVN analysis data.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Anthony Cornelius
> >Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> >(ASWA)
> >(07) 3390 4812
> >14 Kinsella St
> >Belmont, Brisbane
> >QLD, 4153
> >Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
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Hi every1,
I've introduced a new section on my website devoted to satellite loops and
visible satellite pictures from all over the world. It is nowhere near
completed as I have stuff going back to 1998 to upload yet..
Go to:
http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/manchester/4/
and have a squiz at SECTION G:
Happy viewing,
Kevin from Wycheproof.
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Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 20:13:39 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Everyone,
32 new pictures added to BSCH
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/picturegallerynew.htm
These include a great wall cloud from January 5, some beafy storms from
November 7 and a spectacular sunset Cb with glorious updrafts on
November 23 (all 1999)..
--
Ben Quinn
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http://www.bsch.simplenet.com
The Australian Weather Pages Webring
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/webring/index.htm
NEMAS (North East Media of Atmospheric Science) Weather Education Pages
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From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: A Date for your diary
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Hi all.
Have a look at this - and those interested book your tickets.
Anyone really interested - give me a mail and you can stay at my
place.
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/nt/inside/workshop/
Rgds, Paul.
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Hi Les.
> List: Been lurking 4 a while due to lack of action and website
>construction. I've just seen the trailer for "Savage Planet", to be
>broadcast at 2230BST / 2130z in my part of the UK next week. The trailer
>showed a HUGE IC / CC with the Sydney Harbour Bridge niceley lit up in
>the foreground. Wow, hope I'm not away... The programme's about
>lightning... i'll be recording it and possibly MPEGging it so i can send
>it off to my state rep. I'll tell you more next week. Les (UK) PS
>the microguster is back on the indexpage.
Yes, that one was on here in SE Qld last Monday night. Well worth the look
if you are into lightning and thunderstorms. Some very good footage. You
will probably enjoy it.
Last nights one was "The Storm of the Century", about a very severe storm
that brewed very quickly in the Gulf of Mexico and travelled up the Eastern
US, leaving a path of destruction. Apparently, it was the most severe and
largest storm in US history, generating very large storm surges, some 50
tornadoes in Florida, and severe springtime blizards across parts of the US.
It was followed by a shorter one about a very severe storm that brewed in
the N Atlantic generating the most severe storm surge recorded in parts of
England and Holland around 1953.
Looks like a good series.
Regards,
Carl.
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Great pics Damien Howes. That to me looks definite a wall cloud .... Would
be great to have been there - some unusual structure with the sun setting.
Excellent!!
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:13 28/03/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Everyone,
>
>32 new pictures added to BSCH
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/picturegallerynew.htm
>
>These include a great wall cloud from January 5, some beafy storms from
>November 7 and a spectacular sunset Cb with glorious updrafts on
>November 23 (all 1999)..
>
>
>--
>
>Ben Quinn
>
>The Brisbane Storm Chasers Homepage (BSCH)
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com
>The Australian Weather Pages Webring
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/webring/index.htm
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From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes22 at optushome.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Archives: Using Optus at Home or BigPond-Advance?
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 21:17:29 +1000
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Hey again
A new thread has just started up in the optus newsgroup, re download
There is a rumour one subscriber had their service cancelled once they hit
35GB/month
While others, who have downloaded the same, say that optus has said nothing
to them.
If you download 35 GB a month, your doing well
That's 1.16 gig a day, 48.61MB an hour, 810.18K a minute or 13.5k/s.
Yes I'm bored and needed a break from study
Weather related
it was a fairly dodgy gloomy day in melbourne, just a few spits of rain.
Doesn't look like a lot is going to happen. Stratocumulus chase season is
approaching, will fill the tank up ready to roll.
Nick Sykes
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From: "David Carroll" [davidkc at nia.net.au]
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> Hey,
>
> Im in Bathurst,, so I think it might be awhile before we get this Direct
> Access,, the speed sounds fantastic.. I get unlimited downloads now for
$45 a
> month,, but GB..
>
> This all sounds too good to be true..
>
> Optus pls intall here in Bx..
>
> Dave
>
>
> Nick Sykes wrote:
>
> > Hey All
> >
> > I have been using Optus cable internet for about a
> > month, and so far I have to say the service is great.
> >
> > Only had one real problem when their DNS server went
> > down and I had to manually configure my IP address, 5
> > min later all was fine.
> >
> > Re: the download limit
> >
> > I can easily say I have downloaded gigabytes worth of
> > data this month.
> >
> > When online I often listen to streamed CD quality
> > radio stations at 90kb/s while surfing. This will
> > certainly add to my download. As well as this I am
> > saving huge amounts of mp3's, software, game demos,
> > weather data, sat pics and alike.
> >
> > O.K enough crapping on, but I would have to say that I
> > would be approaching 5gig.
> >
> > I have subscribed to the optus newsgroups and chatted
> > with fellow users that have downloaded gigabytes per
> > day and haven't heard a word from Optus.
> >
> > One of the subscribers rang Optus and asked "what is
> > unlimited download" He got the response, "WE would
> > probably start investigating when a user reaches
> > 15gb/month"
> >
> > 15gb, 500mb per day, now thats a lot.
> >
> > For heavy internet use I believe cable is certainly an
> > option to look at.
> >
> > Speed leaves dial-up for dead, it's a permanent
> > connection, no need for a second phone line or phone
> > calls and so far, they seem to be holding true on the
> > no download limit.
> > You can also share the connection on a second computer
> > by simply adding a network card to the other computer
> > and connecting them with a bit of coaxial)
> >
> > (There are now some crazy uses of the Optus service
> > "testing ", the download limit, by downloading
> > unbelievable amounts of data (I think they have to
> > much spare time))
> >
> > I do not know a lot about the Bigbond Advance
> > services, but do know they have some sort of download
> > cap on the speed.
> >
> > I might look into the download issue a little further
> > by asking around.
> >
> > If anyone needs further info or examples of speed etc,
> > yell out.
> >
> > Nick Sykes
> >
> > P.S
> >
> > Had a problem with my SE Australia Sat Pic site, will
> > be busy the next few nights, so will fix it in a few
> > days.
> >
> > --- Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> > > Hi Michael and all,
> > >
> > > I was actually planning on sending a similar email
> > > this evening MS - but
> > > you beat me too it :-)
> > >
> > > I too have been scanning through the Optus at Home or
> > > BigPuddle-Advance
> > > (apologies to Telstra workers and other Telstra
> > > employees/friends
> > > on this list), and became rather suspect of the
> > > little star above the
> > > "unlimitted downloads" and the "acceptable usage
> > > policy." Certainly,
> > > Optus' AUP (Acceptable Usage Policy) is less strict,
> > > and isn't quite as
> > > explicit as Telstra's. I believe Telstra
> > > BidPuddle-Advance is available
> > > in my area at the moment (but please correct me if
> > > I'm wrong!) But I
> > > have decided to wait for Optus at Home due to the less
> > > restrictions on the
> > > "Acceptable Usage Policy." No doubt they'll crack
> > > down on heavy
> > > downloaders, in fact - I wouldn't be surprised to
> > > see restrictions put
> > > on downloads in the near future. If anyone is
> > > thinking of archiving,
> > > I'd certainly advise people to pay the higher
> > > upfront installation fee,
> > > rather than be forced into a 12-18 month contract.
> > > My experience of 12
> > > month contracts with ISP's has not been pleasant.
> > > They've already got
> > > your money for now, and that's what they care about.
> > > Since then, I've
> > > only ever paid my ISP account monthly (even though
> > > it costs more, you've
> > > always got the opportunity to change).
> > >
> > > My ISP Flatrate tried to crack down on heavy
> > > downloaders (like myself),
> > > who downloaded in excess of what they believed was
> > > reasonable for a home
> > > user. Yet, I'm supposedly on an "unlimitted hours,
> > > and unlimitted
> > > downloads" connection plan. I was averaging about
> > > 400-450 hours (I
> > > wasn't actually always at the computer though!), but
> > > their main gripe
> > > was my ~800mb/month download usage. I phoned and
> > > complained, and had a
> > > guy try to tell me that "It's unlimitted to the
> > > extent of a reasonable
> > > limit" of which I replied "So there's a limit on my
> > > connection, so it's
> > > not really unlimiitted then?" To which he replied
> > > "No, it's unlimitted,
> > > but to a reasonable amount, your download usage is
> > > not what we'd
> > > consider a normal user to use." To which I replied
> > > (defencively), "So
> > > my connection is not unlimitted, and you consider me
> > > abnormal?" Which
> > > got him rather tongue twisted :-) He tried to
> > > convince me to move to a
> > > business plan, of which I refused. A few days
> > > later, they added a
> > > $80/month business plan that had no cutoffs. The no
> > > cutoffs lit up my
> > > eyes, and I thought I'd go on it - only to be
> > > refused to allowed to go
> > > on it, as 1 week later they were going to remove it.
> > > Again in January,
> > > they were planning to trial the $80/plan no cutoff
> > > plan, and then got
> > > denied to switch to it because quote "I don't
> > > believe you need to switch
> > > to that connection plan sir." Which got me rather
> > > confused :-)
> > >
> > > Recently - I've been experimenting with a download
> > > utiliy Nick has been
> > > using, and I have been able to keep a fairly good
> > > archive of sat pics,
> > > and eastern Australia radars for the past 9 days.
> > > I've even (sort of),
> > > gotten around my 15min disconnect wait time at the
> > > end of 4hrs when I et
> > > cutoff (by scheduling myself to be cutoff at 3hrs
> > > and 55mins, and having
> > > it reconnect immediately). This month, I have used
> > > 425 hours (although
> > > one day, apparently I used 24.78 hours :-) and I
> > > have downloaded
> > > 1.26gig. This will be the third month in a row I've
> > > downloaded in
> > > excess of 1gig. I'll actually probably end up
> > > downloading around
> > > 1.4-1.5gig this month given the extra data (~50-60mb
> > > a day), I use in my
> > > archives. Next month, this will possibly approach
> > > 2gig! I'm going to
> > > be interested to see what my ISP says about this,
> > > even after offering to
> > > go on a higher-connection plan and being rejected to
> > > do so.
> > >
> > > Certainly, I'd be extremely warey of the so called
> > > "unlimitted
> > > downloads" on a 12-18 month contract on Optus at Home
> > > and
> > > BigPuddle-Advance, as I would not be surprised to
> > > see these capped
> > > unfortunately :-(
> > >
> > > Michael Scollay wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Anthony Cornelius
> > > Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe
> > > Weather Association
> > > (ASWA)
> > > (07) 3390 4812
> > > 14 Kinsella St
> > > Belmont, Brisbane
> > > QLD, 4153
> > > Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland
> > > severe thunderstorm
> > > reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our
> > > homepage at
> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > >
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