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001 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Blocking Highs
002 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] More Adelaide action?
003 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
004 "Paul Yole" [raptor at megasat.net.au] Victoria looks possible too
005 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
006 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] More Adelaide action?
007 MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au] Updates to MSC & Vic news
008 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] #Weather Footy Tips
009 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au] Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
010 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] More Adelaide action?
011 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Flogging down in Darwin
012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Flogging down in Darwin
013 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Flogging down in Darwin
014 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au Flogging down in Darwin
015 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
016 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au] Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
017 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Flogging down in Darwin
018 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] More photos
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001
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 06:41:56 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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I've been thinking about these blocking highs and in particular their
impact on our late autumn/winter weather. I just re-read Dr David Jones
excellent post from last winter on the anomalous southward placement of
high pressure systems and how it has
become an almost normal part of Australian weather in the recent decade.
(Re-read David's post from last year for a much more detailed
explanation, I have it if anyone wants it)
Oh well, maybe we will get some lows squeezing in between these blocking
highs. And maybe some of those "Football Highs" might sometimes show a
more North to South orientation in their elongation (awful poetry) to
perhaps
feed some more cold air our way? Well, that's my fantasy, and I'm
sticking to it for now.
Seriously, I am just thinking about ways in which such blocking highs
could assist cold fronts under certain conditions? Just trying to keep
my hopes up for this year, 'tis all.
Thoughts anyone?
Lindsay P.
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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Hi all,
More storms forecast on the ranges this afternoon. After yesterday's
action I'd suggest anybody with some time should get up there! I doubt
I'll be able to chase today :(
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:11:45 GMT
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I find that the colourisation gives a lot more discrimination at the
top end of the scale. Much easier to pick between green shading to
dark brown than fairly white shading to really white.
Laurier
On Sun, 09 Apr 2000 19:46:46 +1000, Anthony Cornelius
wrote:
>Hi Laurier,
>
>I saw the change a few days ago and didn't like it at all :( Certainly
>it's personal preference, but is there a comparable site to this that
>still has the WV done the old fashioned way? (Eg, black and white). I
>know the interactive GMS-5 site does, but I'm looking for a site that is
>archivable.
>
>Laurier Williams wrote:
>>
>> The Yokohama NPMOC series of Australian satpix began colourising their
>> hourly wv images a few days ago, and they are really useful --
>> especially for spotting Cb development which shows up as brown specks
>> in the moisture field. The latest image is at
>> http://207.133.112.37/gms5/austwv.jpg and there's an archive at
>> http://207.133.112.37/nsds-e20shots/austwv/. Details of the full range
>> of satpix they have are on my Satellite Images --> Cloud Images page,
>> off the index at http://ausweather.simplenet.com/. Whilst they don't
>> have the resolution of the gmsc and gmsd quadrant pix from NPMOC at
>> http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/satimages/gmsd.jpg etc, they seem to be the
>> most reliable, they have an archive, and the IR, WV and vis images are
>> hourly and in the same map projection.
>>
>> --
>> Laurier Williams
>> Australian Weather News & Links
>> http://ausweather.simplenet.com
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From: "Paul Yole" [raptor at megasat.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria looks possible too
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:06:03 +1000
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Hey all,
Well, no storms up here yesterday. Mind you though, watching some of the
congestus breaking through the lower cap was reminiscant of the TDU. Noticed
one cell to the South of Murtoa, but nothing really happened from this
except light rain. Most of the activity died out once it hit the mid-level
cap.
Some rain in Murtoa, but not enough to even measure.
Paul.
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Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 9:54 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Victoria looks possible too
AREA FORECAST 082300 TO 091100 AREAS 30/32
OVERVIEW:
PATCHY RAIN DEVELOPING N OF LAMEROO/BALRANALD WITH ISOLATED
THUNDERSTORMS IN THIS AREA AFTER 05Z. ISOLATED SHOWERS DEVELOPING W
BORDER AND EXTENDING E TO 144E BY 05Z. TROUGH TO W EXPECTED NEAR
MILLICENT/WEBS 23Z, BORDERTOWN/COLAC/HUNTER ISLAND 05Z, BORDERTOWN/
WATSONIA/YARRAM 11Z. LOW CLOUD PATCHES SEA/COAST W OF TROUGH.
ATM, Mildura is a forecast probability with 50% chance of storms between
3 & 6pm, and there are already CJ's in the NW of the state - worth
keeping an eye on (or ring Paul or Kevin for updates). Swan Hill webcam
at http://www.murraytel.com.au/ is showing sizeable cumulus for this
time of day (and year).
Temps over Melbourne last night were:
850 9.8
500 -14.7
300 -42.5
Fairly dry through its depth over us last night, but we have an infeed
from the north of moisture at the moment which should improve the
outlook as the day progresses.
and in Adelaide:-
850 12.2
500 -16.9
300 -43.3
Keep your eyes to the ranges around Melbourne.
Jane ONeill
ASWA - Victoria
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Hi All.
>I find that the colourisation gives a lot more discrimination at the
>top end of the scale. Much easier to pick between green shading to
>dark brown than fairly white shading to really white.
>
>Laurier
>
I agree that the colourisation improves visibility of the top end tonal
range, but I find it a little difficult to call them "Nice colourised water
vapour imagery from NPMOC". The choice of urine yellow and turd brown for
water vapour flows is rather offputting. I wonder if the person choosing
the colours had a dose of the runs recently?
I hope they do not go on to do the same with the IR and VIS images!
Regards,
Carl.
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Hey Phil,
Kathryn here ...... Yesterday was pretty eventfull for us as well. We
spent a good 5 hrs at the RAAF base and watched all the towers go up
through-out the day. Left the RAAF base at approx 2.30pm and headed for
home, we knew there was some action around, and 20 mins after being home we
heard our first rumble of thunder. Andrew and I had just all the camera's
out of the car, so we picked them all up and put them back in
again. Unfortunately for us (and our usual story so it seems) we were
lacking in the fuel and money for fuel department, so we only managed to
head to our local lookout. Saw some nice CG's and CC's over the hills,
city and Salisbury-Elizabeth areas (one of these Andrew and his sister saw
hit the ground), and we managed to capture a few on the Video Cam (few and
far between). A nice base caught our attention looked a bit rough, and as
we were watching it, we noticed it was slowly rotating. We set the cam so
it was pointing at it so we have footage of it. The rotation probably
lasted around half and hour, then the base just became scraggly again.
We managed to get a few more CG's on cam before the batteries died on
us. So we headed for home to re-charge the batteries and get some
food. We went out again about 6.30pm to the same lookout, and there was
only infrequent lightning over the hills (1 every 10-15 mins). So after an
hour we came back home to check out the rotation of the base on video. The
video image is dark to start off with, till Andrew moved the cam, then if
you look at it long enough you can see rotation. or if you don't wish to
stare at it FAST FORWARD works well.
Maybe we can organising a future meeting at our place, and you can judge
for yourself. I hope your pics come out ok, just spewing now we couldn't
go any further.
Kathryn
At 09:06 AM 10/04/00 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>More storms forecast on the ranges this afternoon. After yesterday's
>action I'd suggest anybody with some time should get up there! I doubt
>I'll be able to chase today :(
>
>Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
>paisley at cobweb.com.au
>http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:25:53 +1000
From: MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Have put a link from the MSC front page to Tony Middleton's Wonthaggi to
Glen Alvie chase of the 13th March - the pics are phenomenal!!!!
To go directly to the report:-
http://www.angelfire.com/journal/anvilindustries/chase13.3.2000.htm
Check it out when you next suffer from SDS (which for many of us was
today!!!.....)
--------------------------------
The April Forecast Outlook, Discussion & Report page is suddenly very
active again at
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/apr2000.htm
Enjoy!!
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill
cadence at rubix.net.au
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Hey Everyone.
That time of week again, apologies for not sending a reminder last week,
but the week just flew by.
Well this weekend saw dear old me (Astrolady) get 1 which now places me on
the bottom of the ladder. Weatherhead is still sitting on top with 51.5
points, 2nd place has Disco-wx on 50.5 points, and 3rd is Debp on 49.5
points. I hope at least Deb can make her way to the top and show you guys
how it is done :-) I am showing everyone how not to do it.
Anyway tips have to be in by 6.00pm EST on April 14th......... So don't forget.
GOOD LUCK to everyone, and I really hope someone visits me on the bottom.
Kathryn (Astrolady)
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From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:11:59 +1000
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From: Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au]
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Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
> Hi All.
>
> >I find that the colourisation gives a lot more discrimination at the
> >top end of the scale. Much easier to pick between green shading to
> >dark brown than fairly white shading to really white.
> >
> >Laurier
> >
>
> I agree that the colourisation improves visibility of the top end tonal
> range, but I find it a little difficult to call them "Nice colourised
water
> vapour imagery from NPMOC". The choice of urine yellow and turd brown for
> water vapour flows is rather offputting. I wonder if the person choosing
> the colours had a dose of the runs recently?
>
> I hope they do not go on to do the same with the IR and VIS images!
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
>
Probably colour blind!
Peter
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
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>A nice base caught our attention looked a bit rough, and as
>we were watching it, we noticed it was slowly rotating. We set the cam so
>it was pointing at it so we have footage of it. The rotation probably
>lasted around half and hour, then the base just became scraggly again.
>We managed to get a few more CG's on cam before the batteries died on
>us. So we headed for home to re-charge the batteries and get some
>food. We went out again about 6.30pm to the same lookout, and there was
>only infrequent lightning over the hills (1 every 10-15 mins). So after an
>hour we came back home to check out the rotation of the base on video. The
>video image is dark to start off with, till Andrew moved the cam, then if
>you look at it long enough you can see rotation. or if you don't wish to
>stare at it FAST FORWARD works well.
Excellent! Can you take some frame grabs and put them up on your page,
maybe as an animated GIF???? I'm sure we saw the same thing, just from
different angles.
My photos should be back Wednesday ;)
And more storms tomorrow! [maybe]
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:02:34 +0930
Subject: aus-wx: Flogging down in Darwin
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Hi all.
Its flogging down here - and cant access radar! dammit..................
the airport has had 71.6mm in about 1.5 hrs
inc. 14.6 mm in 10mm.
Yep - this is VERY unsual in April - we are heading for a record wet
season if we have only 150mm more rain during the last 20 days.
Paul in Darwin
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14.6mm in 10mm ? :P
Radar is working fine there at the moment... i can load it anyway.
Enjoy it while it lasts.. here comes the dry season ! :P
Matt
>Hi all.
>
>Its flogging down here - and cant access radar! dammit..................
>the airport has had 71.6mm in about 1.5 hrs
>
>inc. 14.6 mm in 10mm.
>
>Yep - this is VERY unsual in April - we are heading for a record wet
>season if we have only 150mm more rain during the last 20 days.
>
>Paul in Darwin
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:18:02 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Flogging down in Darwin
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Darwin AP has now recorded over 100mm - the first time all wet
season! Now that is an amazing fact about this wet season.
On 10 Apr 00, at 22:02, paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Its flogging down here - and cant access radar!
> dammit.................. the airport has had 71.6mm in about 1.5 hrs
>
> inc. 14.6 mm in 10mm.
>
> Yep - this is VERY unsual in April - we are heading for a record wet
> season if we have only 150mm more rain during the last 20 days.
>
> Paul in Darwin
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:31:34 +0930
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Flogging down in Darwin
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Ohh Matt - I thought your mathematics was better then that -
that equates to rain rates of 72mm per hour or more - umm last
time I looked that classifies it as severe doesnt it?
Paul.
On 10 Apr 00, at 22:49, Matt Smith wrote:
>
> 14.6mm in 10mm ? :P
>
> Radar is working fine there at the moment... i can load it anyway.
>
> Enjoy it while it lasts.. here comes the dry season ! :P
>
> Matt
>
> >Hi all.
> >
> >Its flogging down here - and cant access radar!
> >dammit.................. the airport has had 71.6mm in about 1.5 hrs
> >
> >inc. 14.6 mm in 10mm.
> >
> >Yep - this is VERY unsual in April - we are heading for a record wet
> >season if we have only 150mm more rain during the last 20 days.
> >
> >Paul in Darwin
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:52:38 +1000, Carl Smith
wrote:
>Hi All.
>
>>I find that the colourisation gives a lot more discrimination at the
>>top end of the scale. Much easier to pick between green shading to
>>dark brown than fairly white shading to really white.
>>
>>Laurier
>>
>
>I agree that the colourisation improves visibility of the top end tonal
>range, but I find it a little difficult to call them "Nice colourised water
>vapour imagery from NPMOC". The choice of urine yellow and turd brown for
>water vapour flows is rather offputting. I wonder if the person choosing
>the colours had a dose of the runs recently?
>
>I hope they do not go on to do the same with the IR and VIS images!
>
>Regards,
>Carl.
>
Splendid imagery, Carl. They clearly have picked well the colours
where the shittiest weather is occurring.
Laurier
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From: Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nice colourised water vapour imagery from NPMOC
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>On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:52:38 +1000, Carl Smith
>wrote:
>
>>Hi All.
>>
>>>I find that the colourisation gives a lot more discrimination at the
>>>top end of the scale. Much easier to pick between green shading to
>>>dark brown than fairly white shading to really white.
>>>
>>>Laurier
>>>
>>
>>I agree that the colourisation improves visibility of the top end tonal
>>range, but I find it a little difficult to call them "Nice colourised water
>>vapour imagery from NPMOC". The choice of urine yellow and turd brown for
>>water vapour flows is rather offputting. I wonder if the person choosing
>>the colours had a dose of the runs recently?
>>
>>I hope they do not go on to do the same with the IR and VIS images!
>>
>>Regards,
>>Carl.
>>
>Splendid imagery, Carl. They clearly have picked well the colours
>where the shittiest weather is occurring.
>
>Laurier
>
LOL ... You can also see where it is pissing down!
Carl.
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:50:13 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi all,
Before I go on, I'd like to echo the very true words of Dr David Jones a
week ago - that no one should take things personally on the list!
paulmoss at tpgi.com.au wrote:
>
> Ohh Matt - I thought your mathematics was better then that -
>
> that equates to rain rates of 72mm per hour or more - umm last
> time I looked that classifies it as severe doesnt it?
I believe Matthew Smith was referring to a small typo you made Paul!
Which is:
> >inc. 14.6 mm in 10mm.
mm in mm
Hopefully this will clear up a few things!
Enjoy your flogging :-)
--
Anthony Cornelius
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: More photos
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I have finally had time to add more photographs to our site. Check out
www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index04.html
www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index03.html
They are not the best pics at all namely due tot he fact a fair few of them
were taken during high moisture haze (high CAPE) conditions. Oh well..
Nevertheless, the events include the following dates :
14th March 2000 SE change and some storms in Sydney
19th March 2000 high CAPE day with a lot of activity west, southwest and
then northwest of Sydney particularly near Mudgee
1st April 2000 Muswellbrook severe storm observed from a distance 2nd and
3rd photo of that day as well as some later
2nd April 2000 My Birthday and a bust
3rd April 2000 Storms to the west, southwest and northwest of Sydney some
hail reported the next day in Parkes from the same system which then moved
east as a dry line situation
4th April low level stratus and altocumulus castellanus - the type of day
you wished was a weekend day not week day...
Jimmy Deguara
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