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001 Michael Powell [s371200 at student.uq.edu.au]     GSM Mobiles and SMS text msg's
002 "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at bigpond.net.au]     Off Topic - Greenhouse Warming 
003 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   First  ground frost in Upper Blue Mountains
004 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Ulludulla pics taken from Schofields plus more
005 MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]                     2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!
006 paulmoss at tpgi.com.au                           Wet or Dry?
007 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Off Topic - Greenhouse Warming 
008 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Ulludulla pics taken from Schofields plus more
009 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!
010 MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]                     2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!
011 MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]                     TD2K

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001
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:54:55 +1000
From: Michael Powell [s371200 at student.uq.edu.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: GSM Mobiles and SMS text msg's
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Another one you might like to try is http://www.mobilealert.com.au
Although slow sometimes, it is better than the other services on the web
and worth a look at.

Michael


Hi all,

 Just came across an interesting website, Blueskyfrog.com
 http://www3.smsmebaby.com/login/default.asp and they have a couple of
 services that may be of interest to you all, esp when chasing (as long
 as you're in phone coverage). I haven't had a good look thru it all
yet,
 but the email to sms message on your mobile might come in handy for
 chasers wanting radar info etc. Cheaper than a whole phone conversation

 which can drag on an on. :-)

 I've had a quick look for other free internet to sms message sites, but

 the few I found all suck. :-(

 Cheers,
 Rosco.

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From: "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at bigpond.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic - Greenhouse Warming 
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:15:40 +1000
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Hello List,

To disclose a potential conflict of interest, I work for an electricity
utility.  So I have a passing interest in the subject of greenhouse gasses.
While electricity itself does not cause global warming, the generation of it
does - when fossil fuel is used.  I am not worried about by my employment
prospects, short or long term.  If all the old power stations are shut down
I will be out installing solar power cells, or building a fusion plant (Warp
3 please, Mr Sulu) :).

What worries me is that we (individuals) have plenty of words but not much
action (from individuals).  If one is concerned about greenhouse warming how
about putting some money where the mouth is.  Nearly every electricity
retailer will sell you "clean energy" if you so desire.  The incremental
cost is small.  (ENERGEX's earth choice will limit the incremental cost to a
maximum of $3 per week.)  And you will become an active participant in the
reduction of greenhouse gasses.

Below are some links to various electricity utility's web pages on the
subject.  I was going to do a few more, but they are so easy to find - why
bother.

http://www.energex.com.au/athome/ASP/earthschoice_save.asp
http://www.ergon.com.au/resident/green/greenfr.htm
http://www.energy.com.au/environment/pureenergy.html
http://www.integral.com.au/level1/envenergy/index.html


Regards,

Anthony Spierings


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003
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 06:57:50 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: First  ground frost in Upper Blue Mountains
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Sunday 8am:

Screen temp was 1.5 degrees at around 6:30am. 

Nice light frost in Upper Blue Mountains, at my place. Ice on roofs,
cars and some of the lawns. Bird bath frozen over.

Thought it might have gotten a bit colder than that as it was 4 degrees
at 9pm last night with still conditions and clear skies.

I imagine the suspended swamp areas (Frogs Hollow/Centennial Glen etc)
could be considerably cooler. Our place, being one of the highest spots
in town (Just east of Whitely Park at close to 1100 metres) gets a mild
Katabatic effect. You can see this kick in (as Laurier has pointed out)
during late evening whilst observing coal smoke from chimneys etc.

Lindsay Pearce

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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 08:52:41 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Ulludulla pics taken from Schofields plus more
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Go to the page link:

australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index04.html
towards the bottom   from the 5/4/00

australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index05.html

all   the Ulludulla pics are towards the bottom.

The last photo is not the best but I put it on as it represents the tops of 
the storms developing north of Bega but over land I suppose. A fair 
distance away.

Now here is the first chance that I will start directing you to our new URL 
domain name. The domain name is different to what one may expect:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com           or 
simply  http://australiasevereweather.com

Please note that it is not "australian"   any more but "australia"   ie has 
no "n"   and no more simplenet. The story about the "n"   is the word was 
too long by one letter for a domain name.... you learn something new every 
day. Oh well the good thing is that this means less confusion with ASWA....

Jimmy Deguara


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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:24:55 +1000
From: MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: 2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!
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Melbourne Storm Chasers have managed 2 storm chases in 3 days - and in
autumn!!!!

Go to the following pages:

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/14_4_00.htm

http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/16_4_00.htm

and there are more reports of the activity on this day to be found at
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/apr2000.htm

...if you have any problems with viewing these pages, please email me
off list (my proofreaders seem to have gone away for the Easter break
)

Jane

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Jane ONeill
cadence at rubix.net.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

"..thinking outside the square"

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006
From: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:01:50 +0930
Subject: aus-wx: Wet or Dry?
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Hi all.

"its not over til its over...." - well seems that the dreaded forecast 
has arrived. The monster High building is going to usher in the SE 
trade winds for us and bring on the dry.......................... at least 
this Wet has been in the Top 10 ever and has been the longest wet 
since records began - dont know what it is attributed too - as there 
was only a moderate monsoonal active phase - maybe the 
climatologists amongst us would like to have a go? 

At least one good thing will be this blasted humidity will be gone - 
damm its been like they say the build up is like! Damm Damm hot.

All I can say is - keep up the frequent updates on the Southern 
weather ........ and those who dont like them can delete them for 
goodness sake! Some who dont have weather would like to hear 
about some who do!

Those chasing in the next 6 months - take care! And who is 
organising the end of year chase ?

Paul in Darwin
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic - Greenhouse Warming 
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:12:23 +1000
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Or if you are like me you will get a redundancy. I used to work in a coal
fired station on Lake Illawarra. Old 30 and 100 MW units, they were manual
everything. Nothing like running up a turbine through the critical speeds by
hand.

We use to notice when lightning struck transmission lines many Km's away as
you get a spike on the some of the charts.

Michael


> To disclose a potential conflict of interest, I work for an electricity
> utility.  So I have a passing interest in the subject of greenhouse
gasses.
> While electricity itself does not cause global warming, the generation of
it
> does - when fossil fuel is used.  I am not worried about by my employment
> prospects, short or long term.  If all the old power stations are shut
down
> I will be out installing solar power cells, or building a fusion plant
(Warp
> 3 please, Mr Sulu) :).



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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ulludulla pics taken from Schofields plus more
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:53:23 +1000
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The new site works for me, well at least the few pages I checked. I can't
wait for my Ulladulla pics, but I have several pics to shoot yet. I got
within an estimated 30 km of the storm.

Michael



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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2000 18:59
Subject: aus-wx: Ulludulla pics taken from Schofields plus more


> Go to the page link:
>
> australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index04.html
> towards the bottom   from the 5/4/00
>
> australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/2000/index05.html
>
> all   the Ulludulla pics are towards the bottom.
>
> The last photo is not the best but I put it on as it represents the tops
of
> the storms developing north of Bega but over land I suppose. A fair
> distance away.
>
> Please enjoy
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: 2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:56:00 +1000
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Hi Jane

How many 'snaps' did it take to get the lightning frame. It is really hard.

Michael

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From: MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2000 17:24
Subject: aus-wx: 2 Melbourne Storm Chases in 3 days!!!


> Melbourne Storm Chasers have managed 2 storm chases in 3 days - and in
> autumn!!!!
>
> Go to the following pages:
>
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/14_4_00.htm
>
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/16_4_00.htm
>
> and there are more reports of the activity on this day to be found at
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/apr2000.htm
>
> ...if you have any problems with viewing these pages, please email me
> off list (my proofreaders seem to have gone away for the Easter break
> )
>
> Jane
>
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill
> cadence at rubix.net.au
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
> "..thinking outside the square"
>
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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:12:06 +1000
From: MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
> Hi Jane
> 
> How many 'snaps' did it take to get the lightning frame. It is really hard.
> 
> Michael


I was lucky - I got it within 10 goes (with 25 frames per second I was
really surprised that I did!!)  Wish me luck for tomorrow!! - I've
subsequently found 6 leaders coming down from the cloud and one up from
the ground in the previous 25 images ie: 18:08:19 - now all I have to do
is get that snapped too  and put it up on the site.

Jane


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Jane ONeill
cadence at rubix.net.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence

ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

"..thinking outside the square"

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Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:35:00 +1000
From: MSC [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Snip>
> 
> And who is organising the end of year chase ?
> 
> Paul in Darwin

Paul,

With regard to TD2K, it seems this year that smaller chase teams
organised on a state-by-state basis are more the go.  

The suggestion was made by a number of people who went last year, that
'state teams' should consist of 3-4 cars with 1-2 people in each, with
each pair of cars 'buddying up' with regards to carrying requirements,
camera gear and luggage.  This will also allow us as a larger group to
cover more ground rather than creating a 'moving traffic jam' as we did
last year and only covering a minute part of the country.  

It also appears that the 'chase' will be strung out from early November
to sometime in January with people coming and going right the way
through.

My individual opinion......

Jane  

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cadence at rubix.net.au

Melbourne Storm Chasers
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"..thinking outside the square"

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