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001 "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]     What's with the bureau?
002 Andrew Miskelly [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]     Damn High
003 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Damn High
004 "John Woodbridge" [jrw at pixelcom.net]           Drought looms
005 Andrew Miskelly [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]     Damn High
006 "Paul Graham" [v_notch at hotmail.com]            BoM to be privatised?
007 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        BoM to be privatised?
008 Matthew Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]          SW WA having some interesting weather!
009 "David Croan" [wxbustchase at hotmail.com]        Bangladesh looking good?
010 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Photos
011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Drought looms
012 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             Photos
013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Damn High
014 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Storm season starting early
015 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Photos
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   BoM to be privatised?

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001
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:35:22 -0400
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" [lrlemon at compuserve.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: What's with the bureau?
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Jonty Hall wrote:

> Hi Garry,
> 
> Despite at least 30 years of intense (and intensifying) research, there
is
> no current closed theory of tropical cyclogenesis, and it remains a bit
of
> an educated guessing game at the present time. So consistency of policy
> between agencies (e.g. BoM and JTWC) cannot always be expected. Plenty of
> necessary conditions for a TC to form have been identified - like low
> level cyclonic relative vorticity of the environment, weak vertical wind
> shear etc etc - but even these are very subjective and open to
> interpretation. At present, this small low that you mention is running

                        

Thanks, Jonty, a great post!

Les
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Hi all,

That high that is forecast to be over the contenent on Monday has
deadset got to be the worst looking thing I've ever seen. Hopefully it's
just an Autumn thing but the charts are all looking alot like last
winter at the moment and I haven't see much of a north-ward movement of
the ridge yet!

Bloody hell, it's not football shaped, it's cricket bat shaped!

Andrew.

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A low or trough or SOMETHING should develope in the bite near SA, or over
VIC, or even SE NSW in the next few days...crunched between the 2 highs,
even if most models/charts disagree with me...im taking a gamble and saying
something will develope. Just hope Andy!!

Matt Smith



>Hi all,
>
>That high that is forecast to be over the contenent on Monday has
>deadset got to be the worst looking thing I've ever seen. Hopefully it's
>just an Autumn thing but the charts are all looking alot like last
>winter at the moment and I haven't see much of a north-ward movement of
>the ridge yet!
>
>Bloody hell, it's not football shaped, it's cricket bat shaped!
>
>Andrew.
>
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>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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Hi Anthony,

Well the good news is that the last 48 hours have averted the immediate
drought
threat at Mt. Crosby, with 18.5mm to midnight last night and a similar
amount in
the guage (from a distance) this morning.  So, it is now mud city!!

Rain at this time of year is more beneficial than Nov/Dec as the decrease in
air temps and solar radiation means much less evaporation, so it soaks in
better and has a much longer lasting influence.

Amazing how quickly the trees respond.  20 yr brush box and red ash, which
last
weekend looked very sick have already perked right up.  Will take a few more
days for
the dead look to the grass and undergrowth to change however.

I don't have the Mt. Crosby comparisons at hand to match your figures below,
but
I think we are still around 10% of last year (which was extraodinarily wet,
e.g.,
333mm in Feb compared to Brisbane 229mm).  We are 26km from the city and
40km
from the airport (as the crow flies), which I guess i where these obs come
from,
but it still is amazing how large a difference a relatively small distance
can make.

John.
>snip

Hi John and all,

Brisbane itself has also been dry, as well as west of Brisbane.  It
wasn't until i was having a discussion with James last night that I
really realised how dry it was, even in Brisbane.  There's a large
contrast in totals from 2000, and 1999.  Here are the four month totals
so far:

    1999               2000

January:  211.3mm    36.9mm
February: 229.2mm    88.2mm
March:    108.5mm    35.2mm
April:    82.1mm     42.0mm (to date)

Total:    631.1mm    202.3mm (to date)

Sure, Jan/Feb were above average in rainfall, and 2000 months have been
below average, so it makes the contrast stand out further, but it really
has been quite dry.  Despite the recent 7-10 days of "wet & cloudy
weather," which has basically consisted of light rain and drizzle.
However, in the past 2 days, some large coastal showers (and today, a
couple of storms formed...I heard one rumble of thunder at around
12:30pm at work, and I got caught in another storm with a 40-60 precip
rate, and winds 30-35kn, enough for small branches/twigs to fly across
the road at about 2:45pm).  But it's been hit and miss - and the inland
areas really haven't been getting much at all.  My parents still haven't
broken the tripple figures yet (100mm), at their property WSW of
Brisbane.  Although it was quite wet last year, it's now very dry, and a
lot of the region around the Lockyer Valley is dry, and lots of brown
grass!

While much of QLD has been experiencing very heavy rains..the SE corner
has been left out - which goes hand in hand with our season so far...

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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:03:51 +1000
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As I speak, the BoM's 00z forecast chart has come out and it looks a
little more promising. The ridge spilling over the fronts doesn't look
nearly as pronounced as it does on the (GASP is the most recent) model.

The high in the tasman is still strong though, and noone likes SE moving
fronts...

See what the policy says in half an hour...

Andrew.

Matt Smith wrote:
> 
> A low or trough or SOMETHING should develope in the bite near SA, or over
> VIC, or even SE NSW in the next few days...crunched between the 2 highs,
> even if most models/charts disagree with me...im taking a gamble and saying
> something will develope. Just hope Andy!!
> 
> Matt Smith
> 
> >Hi all,
> >
> >That high that is forecast to be over the contenent on Monday has
> >deadset got to be the worst looking thing I've ever seen. Hopefully it's
> >just an Autumn thing but the charts are all looking alot like last
> >winter at the moment and I haven't see much of a north-ward movement of
> >the ridge yet!
> >
> >Bloody hell, it's not football shaped, it's cricket bat shaped!
> >
> >Andrew.
> >
> >--
> >Andrew Miskelly
> >Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
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Can anyone confirm this?  I heard the BoM and some other government 
deparments such as the CSIRO are to be privatised - as was the case for the 
NZ Met Office...
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> 
> Can anyone confirm this?  I heard the BoM and some other government 
> deparments such as the CSIRO are to be privatised - as was the case for the 
> NZ Met Office...
> - Paul G.

I've heard nothing along these lines. 

What this might have been caught up in could be either (a) the
government was trying to get CSIRO to sell and lease-back its real
estate (which wouldn't affect the Bureau, who already do this) or (b)
the outsourcing of IT functions (got fought off last time but wouldn't
be surprised if someone has another go).

I'd be very surprised if a wholesale privatisation occurred as long
as either the Nationals or Labor had a role in government (which in
effect means permanently under the present system), much as I'm
sure the more hairy-chested ideologues in the Liberal Party would
like to try it (as I recall, something along those lines was part
of the late and unlamented Fightback in 1993).

By the way, it's more accurate to describe the NZ situation as
'commercialised' rather than privatised - it operates on a fully
commercial basis but is still 100% government owned. The previous
NZ government was looking at selling it (rumour has it that a US
company was interested at a fire-sale price), but that was stopped
with the change in government late last year.

Blair Trewin
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Some very strong wind gusts already recorded with this front..


BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY 
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE WIND WARNING
Issued at 9:35 am WST on Friday, 28 April 2000

For the area south of a line Bunbury to Esperance including the towns of
Margaret River, Augusta and Albany.

The SW of WA is under the influence of an intense low centred south of Cape
Leeuwin and a series of fronts will affect the area today. 

 Thunderstorms are likely with hail and possible damaging wind gusts today.

Gusts to 95 kilometers per hour have been reported from Cape Leeuwin and Cape
Naturaliste this morning.

The State Emergency Service advises people to stay indoors when very strong
winds develop. Boat owners should ensure that small craft are securely moored.

The next advice will be issued at 4:00 pm. 
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Hi all,

Not exactly aussie-weather but, given the current exchange rate of the $A 
with the US dollar, a more suitable destination for storm starved Australian 
chasers perhaps ;-)

Seriously though the AVN prog for Bangladesh-northeast India, in particular 
the northern parts over the 29th/30th is looking interesting (12Z would be 
most representative of the afternoon conditions I would guess). CAPE values 
up to 6000, LIs to -14 on the 29th; pretty much the same on the 30th. The 
product of very high surface temps, a deep layer of mositure and cool mid 
level temps. Although it is less clear whether the wind profile will favour 
supercells, the 200mb winds are in the 50-70 knot range so certainly you 
would expect explosive development of severe thunderstorms across the 
region. I suppose we will see if all this is reflected in the Dhaka 
soundings both on Friday and Saturday mornings.

Certainly, with the Himalayas to the north and the Bay of Bengal to the 
south, Bangladesh is spectacularly positioned for severe thunderstorms. For 
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:01:13 +1000
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Hi Matt,

Excellent photos!!!  Did you check for damage after the storm?  I know
in your report it says you didn't see debris, but just wondering if you
checked it out to make sure.  What was the BoM's reaction when you rang
up and reported it?

Matthew Smith wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone!

> 
> Anyway besides that misshap, I got my photos back from April 5, the day
> severe storms with large hail were expected to go beserk through NSW. Not
> much happened but on the back end of one cell I was on near Camden, a
> funnel came out. I didnt want to go beserk about it without having the
> proof to show everyone :) Its the main feature on the front page :
> 
> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com
> 
> Enjoy!

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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:58:17 +1000
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Hi John,

Just to clarify something (and apologies for being misleading and/or
ambigious) - those rainfall amounts were my personal rainfall amounts. 
Another 10.0mm in the guage to 9am this morning, bringing April to
52mm.  Atmosphere has stabilised a fair bit...300mb temperature rose 10C
between 00z and 12z yesterday - I've been out pottering around in the
Wynnum/Manly area, and while there is some healthy Cu, it generally
appears to be heavily capped - although a shower appeared to the west
about 5mins ago.  Looking at the 00z sounding that has just come
out...300mb is still rising!  Now -27C  at  300mb!!!!  It hasn't been that
high all summer!  And of course, we have an autumn suface...500mb temp
dropping too, -11C.  Oh well...

John Woodbridge wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> 
> Well the good news is that the last 48 hours have averted the immediate
> drought
> threat at Mt. Crosby, with 18.5mm to midnight last night and a similar
> amount in
> the guage (from a distance) this morning.  So, it is now mud city!!
> 
> Rain at this time of year is more beneficial than Nov/Dec as the decrease in
> air temps and solar radiation means much less evaporation, so it soaks in
> better and has a much longer lasting influence.
> 
> Amazing how quickly the trees respond.  20 yr brush box and red ash, which
> last
> weekend looked very sick have already perked right up.  Will take a few more
> days for
> the dead look to the grass and undergrowth to change however.
> 
> I don't have the Mt. Crosby comparisons at hand to match your figures below,
> but
> I think we are still around 10% of last year (which was extraodinarily wet,
> e.g.,
> 333mm in Feb compared to Brisbane 229mm).  We are 26km from the city and
> 40km
> from the airport (as the crow flies), which I guess i where these obs come
> from,
> but it still is amazing how large a difference a relatively small distance
> can make.
> 
> John.
> >snip
> 
> Hi John and all,
> 
> Brisbane itself has also been dry, as well as west of Brisbane.  It
> wasn't until i was having a discussion with James last night that I
> really realised how dry it was, even in Brisbane.  There's a large
> contrast in totals from 2000, and 1999.  Here are the four month totals
> so far:
> 
>     1999               2000
> 
> January:  211.3mm    36.9mm
> February: 229.2mm    88.2mm
> March:    108.5mm    35.2mm
> April:    82.1mm     42.0mm (to date)
> 
> Total:    631.1mm    202.3mm (to date)
> 
> Sure, Jan/Feb were above average in rainfall, and 2000 months have been
> below average, so it makes the contrast stand out further, but it really
> has been quite dry.  Despite the recent 7-10 days of "wet & cloudy
> weather," which has basically consisted of light rain and drizzle.
> However, in the past 2 days, some large coastal showers (and today, a
> couple of storms formed...I heard one rumble of thunder at around
> 12:30pm at work, and I got caught in another storm with a 40-60 precip
> rate, and winds 30-35kn, enough for small branches/twigs to fly across
> the road at about 2:45pm).  But it's been hit and miss - and the inland
> areas really haven't been getting much at all.  My parents still haven't
> broken the tripple figures yet (100mm), at their property WSW of
> Brisbane.  Although it was quite wet last year, it's now very dry, and a
> lot of the region around the Lockyer Valley is dry, and lots of brown
> grass!
> 
> While much of QLD has been experiencing very heavy rains..the SE corner
> has been left out - which goes hand in hand with our season so far...
> 
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I Didn't phone it in, I was pretty sure it didnt hit the ground.. no
debris, i couldnt see any raised dust etc. I have a couple of spotter
cards here I have to send off, and one of them was for that, (just saying
I saw a funnel cloud)


Unexpected things happen when you least expect it though.. i'll say that
much about seeing that thing hanging out the back of the cloud!


Matthew Smith

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>Hi Matt,

>

>Excellent photos!!!  Did you check for damage after the storm?  I know

>in your report it says you didn't see debris, but just wondering if 
you

>checked it out to make sure.  What was the BoM's reaction when you 
rang

>up and reported it?

>

>Matthew Smith wrote:

>> 

>> Hi Everyone!

>

>> 

>> Anyway besides that misshap, I got my photos back from April 5, the
day

>> severe storms with large hail were expected to go beserk through NSW.
Not

>> much happened but on the back end of one cell I was on near Camden, 
a

>> funnel came out. I didnt want to go beserk about it without having
the

>> proof to show everyone :) Its the main feature on the front page :

>> 

>> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com

>> 

>> Enjoy!

>

>-- 

>Anthony Cornelius

>Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association

>(ASWA)

>(07) 3390 4812

>14 Kinsella St

>Belmont, Brisbane

>QLD, 4153

>Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe
thunderstorm

>reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at

>http://www.severeweather.asn.au

>
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:28:44 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Yeah, it looks to be a beast of a thing, that damn high. Oh well Andrew,
its been a fairly typical event over the last few years, even longer
than that, I think. And we can still get some good, albeit short-lived,
"cold outbreak" conditions when the highs are still quite southward. 

Even in a lean year last year, we had that great fall out Oberon way,
and a number of nice little falls, so here's hoping. It does seem that
the marginal snow areas are suffering more over the last decade. The
exciting part is waiting each year for the event that will usher in
colder weather and invariably, it does. 

Almost convinced myself of a better season with those comments...

Lindsay Pearce 


Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> That high that is forecast to be over the contenent on Monday has
> deadset got to be the worst looking thing I've ever seen. Hopefully it's
> just an Autumn thing but the charts are all looking alot like last
> winter at the moment and I haven't see much of a north-ward movement of
> the ridge yet!
> 
> Bloody hell, it's not football shaped, it's cricket bat shaped!
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> --
> Andrew Miskelly
> Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
> amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:42:33 +0800
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Subject: aus-wx: Storm season starting early
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The winter storm season has started early here in Perth and the SW of WA
this year.

We've already had 3 decent cold fronts in the matter of a few days, its
been a long time since we've had a strong cold front this early in the season.

Towns on the SW coast had gusts up to 95km/h this morning. Here in Perth
its also has been quite gusty, with heavy showers moving through every now
and then. Also the coldest day of the year so far, currently at 3:35pm WST,
its 14.6C

IDW11W00
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY 
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE WIND WARNING
Issued at 3:35 pm WST on Friday, 28 April 2000

For the area south of a line Bunbury to Esperance including the towns of
Margaret River, Augusta and Albany.

The SW of WA is under the influence of an intense low centred south of Albany. 

 Thunderstorms are likely with hail and possible damaging wind gusts tonight.

Gusts to 95 kilometers per hour have been reported from various coastal
centres.

The State Emergency Service advises people to stay indoors when very strong
winds develop. Boat owners should ensure that small craft are securely moored.

The next advice will be issued at 10:00 pm. 

Jacob
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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:47:58 +1000
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Photos
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Hi Matt,

With that spotter card, perhaps include a link to the photo(s) on your site 
as long as you know the link is permanent. This helps in them verifying the 
situation Also include a time the photo(s) were taken as this helps with 
the Doppler radar check.

As to the photographs of the funnels, yes excellent job. I would like to 
know the scale of the funnel. No doubt it was a funnel though.

Perhaps this could be something that we could all do as spotters if we do 
have photographs. I visited the Bureau this morning and it was maintained 
that spotter reports in real time are essential for verifying weather 
situations and the post severe weather event spotter cards are also 
important. More information will be forthcoming from the Bureau of 
Meteorology on future proposals.

And in the case of the mobile phones to storm spotter number: they are 
seriously looking at it. I won't go further at this stage on the reasons 
behind this so we will wait on the outcomes of their investigation.

Jimmy Deguara

At 12:26 28/04/00 +1000, you wrote:

>I Didn't phone it in, I was pretty sure it didnt hit the ground.. no 
>debris, i couldnt see any raised dust etc. I have a couple of spotter 
>cards here I have to send off, and one of them was for that, (just saying 
>I saw a funnel cloud)
>
>Unexpected things happen when you least expect it though.. i'll say that 
>much about seeing that thing hanging out the back of the cloud!
>
>Matthew Smith
>                   -----Sydney Storm Chasers-----
> 
>http://www.sydneystormchasers.com
>          ----Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)----
> 
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>
> >Hi Matt,
> >
> >Excellent photos!!!  Did you check for damage after the storm?  I know
> >in your report it says you didn't see debris, but just wondering if you
> >checked it out to make sure.  What was the BoM's reaction when you rang
> >up and reported it?
> >
> >Matthew Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone!
> >
> >>
> >> Anyway besides that misshap, I got my photos back from April 5, the day
> >> severe storms with large hail were expected to go beserk through NSW. Not
> >> much happened but on the back end of one cell I was on near Camden, a
> >> funnel came out. I didnt want to go beserk about it without having the
> >> proof to show everyone :) Its the main feature on the front page :
> >>
> >> http://www.sydneystormchasers.com
> >>
> >> Enjoy!
> >
> >--
> >Anthony Cornelius
> >Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> >(ASWA)
> >(07) 3390 4812
> >14 Kinsella St
> >Belmont, Brisbane
> >QLD, 4153
> >Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
> >reporting line on (07) 3390 4218 or by going to our homepage at
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: BoM to be privatised?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:58:03 +1000
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The outsourcing of IT is something the government is dead keen on. With
scientific departments like BOM and CSIRO I do not think the government has
any idea what that means. Do you outsource say the development and support
of scientific models ?

Michael




----- Original Message -----
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: BoM to be privatised?


> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?  I heard the BoM and some other government
> > deparments such as the CSIRO are to be privatised - as was the case for
the
> > NZ Met Office...
> > - Paul G.
>
> I've heard nothing along these lines.
>
> What this might have been caught up in could be either (a) the
> government was trying to get CSIRO to sell and lease-back its real
> estate (which wouldn't affect the Bureau, who already do this) or (b)
> the outsourcing of IT functions (got fought off last time but wouldn't
> be surprised if someone has another go).
>
> I'd be very surprised if a wholesale privatisation occurred as long
> as either the Nationals or Labor had a role in government (which in
> effect means permanently under the present system), much as I'm
> sure the more hairy-chested ideologues in the Liberal Party would
> like to try it (as I recall, something along those lines was part
> of the late and unlamented Fightback in 1993).
>
> By the way, it's more accurate to describe the NZ situation as
> 'commercialised' rather than privatised - it operates on a fully
> commercial basis but is still 100% government owned. The previous
> NZ government was looking at selling it (rumour has it that a US
> company was interested at a fire-sale price), but that was stopped
> with the change in government late last year.
>
> Blair Trewin
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