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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 4th November 1998

From: "Jane ONeill" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:24:13 +1100
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>Melbourne weather forecast and current conditions.
>OVERVIEW:
>COLD FRONT NEAR KANGAROO ISLAND AT 19Z MOVING EAST AT 10/15 KNOTS AND
>IS FORECAST NEAR MT GAMBIER AT23Z, LAMEROO/WARRNAMBOOL 05Z AND
>WARRACKNABEAL/CAMUS 11Z. OCNL SEV TURB LOW LEVELS IN WEST LEE OF RANGES.
>
>SUBDIVISIONS
>A: E OF ORBOST/NARRANDERA
>B: W OF ORBOST/NARRANDERA
>WIND:               2000    5000    7000    10000    14000        18500
>A:                     360/15  360/15  350/15  340/15 PS03  340/15
>B:                     350/35  350/30  350/30  350/30 PS03  340/35
>
>REMARKS: 1..STRONGER WINDS GRADUALLY EXTENDING OVER EASTERN HALF OF STATE.
>2..2000/5000 FT WINDS TURNING 250/30 WEST OF FRONT.
>CLOUD:       SCT ST 1000/2000 IN TS/SH. ISOL CB 4000/20000 WITHIN 100NM OF
>FRONT. SCT CU 4000/12000 WEST OF FRONT. BKN ACAS 10000/20000 WITHIN 200NM
OF
>FRONT.
>WEATHER:       ISOL TS WITHIN 100NM OF FRONT. SCT SH ON AND WEST OF FRONT.
>
>                                                Temp    DP
>MELBOURNE AIRPORT             22.3    5.4
>MELBOURNE CITY                   22.7    4.7
>FRANKSTON                            20.7    8.7
>PT WILSON                             23.5    5.4
>MOORABBIN                            23.5    5.9
>LAVERTON                               24.1    8.6
>MT DANDENONG                     17.5    7.5
>Northerly wind, gusting, Ci thickening.
>
>Jane
>Melbourne
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From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:56:00 +1100
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Ok heres the deal everyone!!
Two options:

Fly

Cost is $624 with 3 nights accom. Other 6 nights stay in backpackers motel.
Hire care from airport. Leave Friday morning the 4.12.1998 and return Sunday
13.12.1998. Flights will be with Qantas holidays.

Drive.

Hire ? use car and drive. Stay in Tents/Caravan parks/pubs on the way.
Leave Friday 4.12.98 and return to Sydney by the 13.12.1998.

Option 1 is the preferred plan. Airfares will have to be paid by Friday next
week  (21 days in advance.) We have 2 guys going, Matt from Sydney & Paul
from Taree. we need at least 2 -3 more, and then costs of petrol & accom  &
food will be dramatically reduced!!

Cmon, lest chase!! We need to know ASAP so we can start booking!! Hurry
Hurry Offer runs out next Friday!!

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:57:36 +1100
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From: Ben Munro 
Subject: aussie-weather: Rainbows in cirrus
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I saw a cool sight today. There is a fair amount of cirrus about today, and
one of the bands of cirrus was in the right position to produce a lovely
rainbow of colours. Instead of being white, it was bright red, orange,
yellow, green, blue and purple. I saw it about 1pm est, and it lasted for
quite a while after that, but was at it's brightest at that time

It probably occurs pretty often, but i've never seen it before.

Ben from Sydney

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From: "McDonald" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:08:12 +1100
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Jane or anyone, 
		Please tell me if i have read this bit right.  ISOL CB 4000/20000 WITHIN
100NM OF
FRONT.  Does this mean that there is isolated cumulonimbus with height's of
between 4000m and 20000m within 100 nanometres (what are they??) of the
front?

Thanks.  Andrew McDonald.
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> From: Jane ONeill 
> To: Aussie Weather 
> Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
> Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 11:24
> 
> >Melbourne weather forecast and current conditions.
> >OVERVIEW:
> >COLD FRONT NEAR KANGAROO ISLAND AT 19Z MOVING EAST AT 10/15 KNOTS AND
> >IS FORECAST NEAR MT GAMBIER AT23Z, LAMEROO/WARRNAMBOOL 05Z AND
> >WARRACKNABEAL/CAMUS 11Z. OCNL SEV TURB LOW LEVELS IN WEST LEE OF RANGES.
> >
> >SUBDIVISIONS
> >A: E OF ORBOST/NARRANDERA
> >B: W OF ORBOST/NARRANDERA
> >WIND:               2000    5000    7000    10000    14000        18500
> >A:                     360/15  360/15  350/15  340/15 PS03  340/15
> >B:                     350/35  350/30  350/30  350/30 PS03  340/35
> >
> >REMARKS: 1..STRONGER WINDS GRADUALLY EXTENDING OVER EASTERN HALF OF
STATE.
> >2..2000/5000 FT WINDS TURNING 250/30 WEST OF FRONT.
> >CLOUD:       SCT ST 1000/2000 IN TS/SH. ISOL CB 4000/20000 WITHIN 100NM
OF
> >FRONT. SCT CU 4000/12000 WEST OF FRONT. BKN ACAS 10000/20000 WITHIN
200NM
> OF
> >FRONT.
> >WEATHER:       ISOL TS WITHIN 100NM OF FRONT. SCT SH ON AND WEST OF
FRONT.
> >
> >                                                Temp    DP
> >MELBOURNE AIRPORT             22.3    5.4
> >MELBOURNE CITY                   22.7    4.7
> >FRANKSTON                            20.7    8.7
> >PT WILSON                             23.5    5.4
> >MOORABBIN                            23.5    5.9
> >LAVERTON                               24.1    8.6
> >MT DANDENONG                     17.5    7.5
> >Northerly wind, gusting, Ci thickening.
> >
> >Jane
> >Melbourne
> PS: sorry - you'll get this twice - sent it using the wrong account

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From: "McDonald" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:16:09 +1100
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I'm not sure how much you guy's know about me but I haven't had a job for
over a year and i am totally broke (I'm only 18 so I am allowed to be).  I
would love to come along and see some real storms (considering I'm from
melbourne) but I just can't afford it right now (unless I win tattslotto in
the next few days).  I will definitely have a job within two months (or
else my parents will kill me) so I would be happy to go next year.  If you
do go enjoy yourselves and take lots of photo's that you can show us all
when you get back.

Thanks 

Andrew McDonald.

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> From: paulmoss 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
> Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 12:56
> 
> Ok heres the deal everyone!!
> Two options:
> 
> Fly
> 
> Cost is $624 with 3 nights accom. Other 6 nights stay in backpackers
motel.
> Hire care from airport. Leave Friday morning the 4.12.1998 and return
Sunday
> 13.12.1998. Flights will be with Qantas holidays.
> 
> Drive.
> 
> Hire ? use car and drive. Stay in Tents/Caravan parks/pubs on the way.
> Leave Friday 4.12.98 and return to Sydney by the 13.12.1998.
> 
> Option 1 is the preferred plan. Airfares will have to be paid by Friday
next
> week  (21 days in advance.) We have 2 guys going, Matt from Sydney & Paul
> from Taree. we need at least 2 -3 more, and then costs of petrol & accom 
&
> food will be dramatically reduced!!
> 
> Cmon, lest chase!! We need to know ASAP so we can start booking!! Hurry
> Hurry Offer runs out next Friday!!

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From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:17:33 +1100
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100 NM is nautical miles , and I think that the rest is correct!

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:21:13 +1100
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From: Ben Munro 
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
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At 02:08 PM 4/11/98 +1100, you wrote:
>Jane or anyone, 
>		Please tell me if i have read this bit right.  ISOL CB 4000/20000 WITHIN
>100NM OF
>FRONT.  Does this mean that there is isolated cumulonimbus with height's of
>between 4000m and 20000m within 100 nanometres (what are they??) of the
>front?
>
>Thanks.  Andrew McDonald.

That would be 100 Nautical Miles (roughly 200km i think). a nanometre is a
billionth of a metre. I don't think the BoM's measurements are that
accurate :)

Ben Munro

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From: "McDonald" 
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:29:52 +1100
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Thanks Ben and Paul,
			I realised just after I sent it that nanometres were pretty small  :-).

Thanks.

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> From: Ben Munro 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
> Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 14:21
> 
> At 02:08 PM 4/11/98 +1100, you wrote:
> >Jane or anyone, 
> >		Please tell me if i have read this bit right.  ISOL CB 4000/20000
WITHIN
> >100NM OF
> >FRONT.  Does this mean that there is isolated cumulonimbus with height's
of
> >between 4000m and 20000m within 100 nanometres (what are they??) of the
> >front?
> >
> >Thanks.  Andrew McDonald.
> 
> That would be 100 Nautical Miles (roughly 200km i think). a nanometre is
a
> billionth of a metre. I don't think the BoM's measurements are that
> accurate :)
> 
> Ben Munro

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:38:18 +1100
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From: Ben Munro 
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
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I'll be at the opposite end of the country for the 2nd-13th - hiking in the
western arthur ranges, in Tasmania. So, count me out.
I won't be expecting any severe thunderstorms, just rain and cold

Ben Munro

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Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:43:44 +1100
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
From: "Mark Hardy" 
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Not quite

100NM is 100 nautical miles, correct
ISOL CB 4000/20000 indicates isolated cumulonimbus with bases at 4000 feet
and tops to 20,000 feet. The aviation industry still lives in the imperial
world (god bless 'em).

Mark
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>From: "paulmoss" 
>To: 
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne weather
>Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 2:17 PM
>

>100 NM is nautical miles , and I think that the rest is correct!

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Photos of cold air - 27th October
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:36:24 +1100
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A couple of photos of Cu glaciating and snow virga from the 27th October
1998 are at

http://thunder.simplenet.com/diary/s98.htm

This was the day that the waterspouts were sighted off Illawarra and Sydney,
unfortunately I missed these, but I was looking !

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: "Nick Sykes" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: NT Storm Chase- count me in
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:25:52 +1100
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You can count me in Paul

Nick

Weather is all around you, feel it's force.

ICQ-19704370

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From: "Nick Sykes" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Flying Interstate - NT Chase
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:51 +1100
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Hi All

Just a query, I have never flown interstate before and was wondering what I.D you need to fly, if any, Visa, Passport etc.

Nick

Weather is all around you, feel it's force.

ICQ-19704370

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From: "paulmoss" To: Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NT Storm Chase- count me in Date: From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NT Storm Chase- count me in
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Sykes 
To: aussie-weather 
Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 4:29 PM
Subject: aussie-weather: NT Storm Chase- count me in
You can count me in Paul

Nick

Weather is all around you, feel it's force.

ICQ-19704370


EXCELLENT!!! Now we only need 1 0r 2 more people.....then we are on!!! Wooohhhoooooooooooo!!

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Storm SA
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:22:30 +1100
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Take a look at the latest satpics in SA. There is a very large thunderstorm.
I will check out the nasa satpic

http://www.npmocw.navy.mil/npmocw/prods/products/wpac/Satellites/aust_IR.jpg

Jimmy Deguara

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: storms  at  NT/WA/SA border
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:29:35 +1000
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Hi all

Some very nice storms have developed at the nt/sa/wa tri-state border.  The
Giles 00z soundings only had a CAPE at 285 and lifted index of -1.06 but
that was 9 or so hours ago.  You would expect more storm-friendly stats now.

James from brissie
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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: storms  at  NT/WA/SA border
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:31:46 +1000
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You got there first Jimmy!

Oh yeah I said over 9 hours - meant 7!  Hmm...

(i'm replying to my own email here)
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From: James Chambers 
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Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 17:30
Subject: aussie-weather: storms  at  NT/WA/SA border


>Hi all
>
>Some very nice storms have developed at the nt/sa/wa tri-state border.  The
>Giles 00z soundings only had a CAPE at 285 and lifted index of -1.06 but
>that was 9 or so hours ago.  You would expect more storm-friendly stats
now.
>
>James from brissie

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: SA/WA storms
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ftp://ftp.ece.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/ausvlast.gif

This line of storm acticity guys is what we need in NSW/ Qld and so on in a
few days time. I hope it does...

Jimmy Deguara
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 07:48:56 GMT
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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:38:18 +1100, you wrote:

>I'll be at the opposite end of the country for the 2nd-13th - hiking in the
>western arthur ranges, in Tasmania. So, count me out.
>I won't be expecting any severe thunderstorms, just rain and cold


.....and fog, and gales, and snow, and fog, and blizzards, and frost,
and fog, and sleet, and hail, and fog...

Lucky devil. I did that walk a few years ago in December. We had about
8 sunny hours in a week and a bit, but it was one of the best walks
I've ever done.

Laurier Williams

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Flying Interstate 
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 98 19:09:43 +1000
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>Just a query, I have never flown interstate before and was wondering what 
>I.D you need to fly, if any, Visa, Passport etc.
>
Hi Nick,

All you'll need is a plane ticket, a camera, and some waders as I'm sure 
it will be pretty wet in the top end (for travel, a passport is only for 
leaving/entering Australia and a visa is required for entry into some 
countries).

ENJOY your chase guys, from the Malcolm Douglas adventures I've seen in 
top end during the wet season you'll be in for some awesome lightning 
displays.

David C

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From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Flying Interstate 
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:35:24 +1100
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Hi Guys!! We only need one more now to make the trip! We have 3 and we have
a group booking, What we can offer is:

$ 653.40 for return airfares, and 3 nights accommodation in a 2 bedroom
apartment.

So cmon if ya like!!

Seats are fading fast!! So Cmon on for a once in a year trip!!

Paul...........

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From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Current Obs. 
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:41:06 +1100
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Heres Taree's current obs.

METARAWS YTRE 0800Z 07009G12KT //// 17.4/10.8 Q1020.3 RMK      RF00.0/000.0

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Just a reminder the Australian weather chat is on irc tonight at 9pm EDT
(8pm EST in Brisbane), don't forget you can chat on the web at:

http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

or if you havent yet you can download the irc client mIRC at:

www.mirc.co.uk

We had a quite a few people last week and we had some good Australian
weather discussion, I'll only be there for the first 30 mins or so tonight,
because I have to attend my older brother's birthday dinner.

Hope to see ya there!

Also, I was looking at the NGP earlier, NGP shows an interesting low
developing over inland parts of eastern Australia at the 144hr NGP on
Tuesday. The new MRF isn't out yet, so not sure if it agrees with the NGP
or not.

http://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/wxmap/web/ngp/archive/1998110400/ngp.prp.144.ausnz
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Jacob

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From: "Jane ONeill" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:08:34 +1100
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Looking pretty boring tonight - As and the wind has dropped - fortunate
actually as our clutch of 4 baby blackbirds left the nest tonight and I
don't want too much wind for the next day or so till they start to grow
tails(ok - call me a woos!!).  They nested in a treefern 2' from the bedroom
window 3' off the ground with a GSP to guard them while they were in the
nest.

Other than that - oh yes, Melbourne weather -

Melbourne airport 22.9/03.2 Barometer 1023.6 17kt NNE breeze
Bayswater(50km east of the airport) - 25.2

Jane

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: SA
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 98 19:42:48 +1000
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>This line of storm acticity guys is what we need in NSW/ Qld and so on in a
>few days time. I hope it does...

With plenty of moisture and instability (tot-tots around 50-55) looks 
like that northern pastoral ditrict of SA will get another dose on 
Thursday.

I'm hoping that we east-coasters will get something out of it on the 
weekend - we must be pushing the 95% percentile band for lack of October 
storm activity here in Sydney (Spring/Summer 1996 revisited).

David C

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:01:39 +1100
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Nothing !

Seriously, but it would be best to take some ID just in case of other problems, like on the road.

Have fun guys,

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Sykes 
To: aussie-weather 
Date: Wednesday, 4 November 1998 16:30
Subject: aussie-weather: Flying Interstate - NT Chase
Hi All

Just a query, I have never flown interstate before and was wondering what I.D you need to fly, if any, Visa, Passport etc.

Nick

Weather is all around you, feel it's force.

ICQ-19704370

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From: Ben Munro 
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase in the NT!!
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At 07:48 AM 4/11/98 GMT, you wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:38:18 +1100, you wrote:
>
>>I'll be at the opposite end of the country for the 2nd-13th - hiking in the
>>western arthur ranges, in Tasmania. So, count me out.
>>I won't be expecting any severe thunderstorms, just rain and cold
>
>
>.....and fog, and gales, and snow, and fog, and blizzards, and frost,
>and fog, and sleet, and hail, and fog...
>
>Lucky devil. I did that walk a few years ago in December. We had about
>8 sunny hours in a week and a bit, but it was one of the best walks
>I've ever done.
>
>Laurier Williams

Hehe, yeah, it should be great. I've never been to tassie before.

Ben Munro

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From: "Nick Sykes" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Current Obs. 
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:39:59 +1100
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Here's my Details Paul

Nicholas Sykes
1/1420 Centre Road, Clayton, 3168, VIC
ph 03 9544 1415

If you want to know anything else ask me

P.S

Can you get me some ifo on the others coming

Thanks

Nick

Weather is all around you, feel it's force.

ICQ-19704370
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From: paulmoss 
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Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:01 PM
Subject: aussie-weather: Current Obs.


>Heres Taree's current obs.
>
>METARAWS YTRE 0800Z 07009G12KT //// 17.4/10.8 Q1020.3 RMK      RF00.0/000.0

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Ok will do...ps its better to use my address then the lists!! hehehe now
everyone knows where u live!! :-)

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Sydney Outlook:
Friday   
Fine. NE/NW winds.     City Max:     25
Saturday 
Chance of late shower or storm. NE/N winds.    City Max:     27
Sunday   
Few showers or a storm. S change.    City Max:     25


yeah it all sounds promising, hope it  comes true!!!!
Matt

Document: 981104.htm
Updated: 5th November, 1998

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