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a friend of mine on IRC who lives 20 minutes north or perth is recieving
pea size hail right now, so looks like the chasers over there are having a
field  day!!!!
Hope its going well :)
Matt in sydney.

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:15:54 +0800
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Ira wrote:
> 
> who is your friend and what irc are you on? Im also from Perth
> 
> Ira Fehlberg

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:24:47 +0800
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wow guys i just had an unreal storm go through!!!! It just came up, I
started to get hail so i went for a drive, then it just started peeing
down. Got some lightning shots ( i hope ) and some shots of the water
flowing down hte roads. Couldnt get shots of the rain as it was really
peeing and i was in my car.The road on riverside drv is underwater. I
can hear sirens and that. michael Fewings should get some good lighting
shot as hes gone for a drive. Will keep you posted

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Well what a day and evening, at the lunch time forecast, BoM was saying the
chance of an afternoon thunderstorm for Perth, so I was looking out for any
signs of development, some clouds develop to the north-west which then
started to break up again by about 4pm. Then as I gathered for the late
afternoon forecast, BoM did take out the chance of a thunderstorm and just
put Fine, Partly cloudy, that was at about 4:30pm.

I left for work at about 5pm, thinking there was no chance of any storms,
not much clouds in they sky. I arrived at work just before 6pm and then I
noticed some quite good development to the west and north-west but I didnt
give it to much thought.

At about 6:30pm, I saw from my window at work that it started to rain, so
there was maybe some hope after all.

Then the action started at around 8:20pm when I saw some lightning, about
8:40pm light but very large drops started to fall, and then about a minute
later it started to hail, I got hail up to 2cm from what I could see, and
it lasted about 10 minutes, I've never seen a hailstorm last that long
before. After the hail we had heavy rain for about 30 mins with some very
nice CG lightning.

Lightning then stayed for the rest of the evening, and I had to be at work,
of all the luck!

There was still lightning around on the way home from work at about 1am and
a Severe thunderstorm advice is still current for Perth.

IDW10W00
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PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
ISSUED AT  11:50PM TUESDAY 17/11/1998

PEOPLE IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE LOWER WEST DISTRICT , INCLUDING
THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA, ARE ADVISED THAT THERE IS A RISK OF
SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS DURING THE NIGHT.

STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY HAIL AND STRONG WINDS THAT COULD RESULT
IN DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.


PEOPLE ARE ADVISED TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND, IF
STORMS APPROACH SECURE LOOSE ITEMS, MOVE VEHICLES UNDER COVER, THEN
STAY INDOORS UNTIL THE STORMS HAVE PASSED.
 DRIVING CONDITIONS WILL BE HAZARDOUS

THIS THUNDERSTORM ADVICE WILL BE UPDATED AT 4AM WEDNESDAY.

Jacob

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:12:38 -0500
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2cm? Wow, that's damn near an inch! ;-)

-Netdave-

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Severe T'storms!!!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:25:22 +1000
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICEBUREAU OF METEOROLOGYNEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL
OFFICE
Issued at 0328 on Wednesday the 18th of November 1998
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
North West Slopes and PlainsCentral West Slopes andCentral Tablelands.
Thunderstorms around the Orange and Coonabarabran areas forecast  to
continue within the advice area from 3am until 9am.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones and
destructive winds..
Hail large enough to damage cars and roofing has been reported from Orange.
The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
 * put vehicles under cover or cover them with blankets
 * move indoors away from windowsDuring and after storms people should:
 * take extreme care when driving  * beware of fallen trees and power lines
 * shelter in the strongest part of a building [eg. bathroom or basement]
If your house is damaged contact your local State Emergency Service unit,
listed under "S" in the White Pages, for emergency assistance. Don't use the
telephone during storms.
TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for the North West Slopes and
Plains, Central West Slopes and Central Tablelands districts.
NOT FOR BROADCAST: This advice message is valid until 8am. The Bureau and
SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this time.
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James Chambers
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:20:53 +1100
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Hi all!!

Well - after being up to 4:30am, being eaten by mozzies, freezing my you
know what off and geting a cramped neck and then being woken up at
9:30am, I didn't have a very good past few hours!  But lightning tracker
is showing about ~ 50strikes every 5mins on lightning tracker!  Can't
see much at the moment since there's a fair bit of Cu around, but I can
see some Cirrus around coming from the west.  Certainly not looking too
bad at the moment!

Will keep you informed.
Anthony from Brisbane

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:35:15 +1100
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PRIORITY
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
At 1030 EST on Wednesday the 18th of November 1998

For the Southeast Coast.

The Bureau of Meteorology advises people of the possibility of severe
thunderstorms with damaging 
winds and large hail in the Southeast Coast district. Thunderstorms are
currently observed on radar over the Darling Downs moving towards the
NE; none
are severe at present. 

If severe thunderstorms develop then severe thunderstorm warnings will
be
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:19:23 +1100
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1213 on Wednesday the 18th of November 1998

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Northern Tablelands 
Northern Rivers
Mid North Coast
North West Slopes and Plains

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing very heavy rainfall,
destructive winds and large hailstones.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:18:19 +1100
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     Wouldn't mind being up there today.
     

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1213 on Wednesday the 18th of November 1998

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Northern Tablelands 
Northern Rivers
Mid North Coast
North West Slopes and Plains

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon.
Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing very heavy rainfall,
destructive winds and large hailstones.
    
    ______________________________ Reply Separator 
    _________________________________
    Subject: aussie-weather: My Photos!!!
    Author:  "Kevin Phyland"  at agal-email
    Date:    17/11/98 4:30 AM
    
    
    Hi every1,
    
    I've finally got a web site where I can post some photos.
    I've accessed myself it a few times (and they seem a bit big) but at least 
    until I figure out how to do "thumbnails" they'll have to do. Until I figure 
    it out however,
    the first is a lightning shot (cc) at Briagolong (Vic) courtesy 
George Boyd.
    the second is my only shot of a rotating Cb, in Wycheproof (1991) 
    and the third is just a beaut front rolling in in 1988!
     
URL is http://greenfield.fortunecity.com//manchester/4/index.html
     
Yours, Kevin Phyland.
P.S. Thanx, (for ALL the crap) Michael Bath and David Hardy.
     
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:28:14 +1100
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Hi all!!  

Well - we just had a thunderstorm go through about 40mins ago.  It
lasted for about 25mins.  Unfortunately, since it was cloudy with Cu, I
couldn't take any picture of it approaching.  However it was a dark
grey/blue colour for a few minutes.  I myself  see an CG's, in fact I
didn't hear any cracks of thunder, only rumbles and claps.  But it was
still a nice little storm!!  There was thunder about every 5-10
seconds.  We also received small, rice grain hail!  It was ever so
small, most of the larger drops of rain were really melted hail.  I
could only just hear a little on the patio roof, and by also putting my
hand out I was able to see that there was a little!  We had a total of
7.2mm of rain overall.  So not too much, but the rain was quite heavy
for about 5mins.  The winds were about 30-40km/h at the most...so not
severe by any standards.  But still nice to get a 'proper' storm since
October 13!

The flanking line of the storm was very nice though!  At the moment,
there is some patchy blue sky to the west.  Lightning tracker is picking
up new storms forming out along the NSW/QLD border.  I'm keeping an eye
on these deents, as it is rare that a t'storm would form in the morning,
which therefore means the atmosphere is very t'storm friendly!

Will keep you posted if anything else arises this afternoon.

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Anthony,
	  Just checked the latest lightning (energex) - there seems to be a good
storm on (not near) Gympie (i think that's the abbrev.) and another in the
SW corner of the map ( not sure where it would be)?  How's it looking for
you and anyone else?  Melbourne is rather boring with strong SE wind and no
prosepects of storms for a while.

Andrew McDonald.

P.S.  I got up at 3am this morning to see 2 yes two shooting
stars/meteorites.  Mmmmmm.....

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:01:30 +1100
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Looking great to our SW here, powerful updraughts!! Again, will continue
to keep you posted.  It's feast or famine here in SE QLD, hardly
anything, and then you get a few days with everything!!  If us
Brisbanites are not online for the weather meeting tonight, then you
know something very interesting happened here!

Excited Anthony from Brisbane

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
Queensland Region
Brisbane Office 

*** For immediate broadcast ****

TOP PRIORITY
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
At 2.40 EST on Wednesday the 18th of November 1998

For the Southeast Coast

Thunderstorms with severe wind squalls and small hail were observed on a
line
from near Toowoomba to Boonah 80 km SW of Brisbane at 2.30pm moving  NE
at 80
km/hr.

The storms are expected to reach the western suburbs within the hour.

People are advised to secure outside items, move cars under cover and
seek
shelter.

The next warning will be issued at 3.15pm.

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Major storm band from about 100km east of Grafton to about 100km NW of
Ipswich moving fairly quickly ENE. Major centre west of Brisbane with
rain rates widely 40>100mm/h and spots of >100mm (hail?). The area NW
of Ipswich is intensifying, and there's an area of substantial echoes
approaching Cape Byron, too. Separate big storms also on Fraser
Island, Bundaberg and Gladstone. 


-- 
Laurier Williams
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:38:20 +0800
From: Michael Fewings 
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Hi all,

Well as you are probably aware there was some excellent weather finally
in Perth last night.
But I ended up 120 km SSE of Perth and sat just away to the East of the
middle level disturbance. Constant lightning for a while and as you have
heard big hail. I would have guessed that I went through 1 to 1.5 cm
hail and really heavy rain. In the later part of the evening, the storms
started showing lots of really long crawlers. And one strike looked
exactly like Michael Baths photo at
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/0124mb06.jpg

but I missed it!
Jacob has gone into the development side to the storms that really
caught the bom out.
Had 7 hours of beautiful lightning displays last night. I am relieved
that I can set my "days since last storm" counter back into single
digits again. The way it should always be.
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au

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Laurier,
They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A very visual piece of writing
but wouldn't it be great if we could all view the actual image.
Mark
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>From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aussie-weather: Radar report 4.20pm EDST
>Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 4:33 PM
>

>Major storm band from about 100km east of Grafton to about 100km NW of
>Ipswich moving fairly quickly ENE. Major centre west of Brisbane with
>rain rates widely 40>100mm/h and spots of >100mm (hail?). The area NW
>of Ipswich is intensifying, and there's an area of substantial echoes
>approaching Cape Byron, too. Separate big storms also on Fraser
>Island, Bundaberg and Gladstone. 

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Just a reminder about the irc weather meeting tonight at 9pm EDT.

Lots of things to talk about tonight with all the storms around parts of
nation today and last night and also we could discuss the Australian Storm
Society.

If you haven't already tried it you can download the IRC client, mIRC at
www.mirc.co.uk and use one of the undernet servers and then type /join
#weather

Or you can chat via the web at http://www.iinet.net.au/~jacob/chat.html

Jacob

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:23:36 +1100
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5.30pm Wednesday

We are certainly well out of the storm action, but light rain started here
about 30 mins. It has increased to moderately heavy now.

Radar indicates it is isolated to southern Illawarra, but my own experience
say it will slowly set-in for 1-2 hours, and perhaps move north.

Michael Thompson
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Looks like the northern suburbs got the best hail, my dad told me that he
had larger hail and that it lasted about 20 mins, which occured about 20
mins after it started to hail at work which is about 30km away.

I got a big surprise when I went in the pool area today, we had cleaned the
pool out recently and was just waiting a few more weeks for the hot weather
to start before filling it up, but when I had a look today the lino of the
pool was full of holes, some holes were 4cm large due to the hail.

Jacob

At 01:38 PM 18-11-98 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Well as you are probably aware there was some excellent weather finally
>in Perth last night.
>But I ended up 120 km SSE of Perth and sat just away to the East of the
>middle level disturbance. Constant lightning for a while and as you have
>heard big hail. I would have guessed that I went through 1 to 1.5 cm
>hail and really heavy rain. In the later part of the evening, the storms
>started showing lots of really long crawlers. And one strike looked
>exactly like Michael Baths photo at
>http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/photography/photos/1993/0124mb
06.jpg
>
>but I missed it!
>Jacob has gone into the development side to the storms that really
>caught the bom out.
>Had 7 hours of beautiful lightning displays last night. I am relieved
>that I can set my "days since last storm" counter back into single
>digits again. The way it should always be.
>--
>Michael Fewings

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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:41:25 +1100, "Mark Hardy" 
wrote:

>Laurier,
>They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A very visual piece of writing
>but wouldn't it be great if we could all view the actual image.
>Mark

Those were exactly my thoughts as I sent off the email, Mark. I toyed
with the idea of attaching the 18k gif for Brisbane, but decided not
to as (a) attachments aren't always appreciated (though I thought the
list would cope with that), and (b) the Bureau's Bloody Copyright
Restrictions. 

We really do have to do something about this. 

-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:41:25 +1100, "Mark Hardy" 
wrote:

>Laurier,
>They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A very visual piece of writing
>but wouldn't it be great if we could all view the actual image.
>Mark
>----------
Ah...what the heck.  Go to
http://www.lisp.com.au/~laurier/aussie-weather/ and have a look.


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:39:12 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Hi everyone,
I think you could comfortably get away without radar imagery if you:

a) had use of the lightning detection system that I mentioned a week or
two ago.

b) had up to date (I mean the very latest), animated GMS-5, hi-res, WV,
IR, and VIS imagery - especially the water vapour imagery since it isn't
affected by low level moisture.

Though, I have to say that I am tempted to pay the Bureau for the images.  

- Paul G.

PS.  Thank you Michael T. for the townsville image.

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Paul Graham
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Laurier Williams wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:41:25 +1100, "Mark Hardy" 
> wrote:
> 
> >Laurier,
> >They say a picture is worth a thousand words. A very visual piece of writing
> >but wouldn't it be great if we could all view the actual image.
> >Mark
> 
> Those were exactly my thoughts as I sent off the email, Mark. I toyed
> with the idea of attaching the 18k gif for Brisbane, but decided not
> to as (a) attachments aren't always appreciated (though I thought the
> list would cope with that), and (b) the Bureau's Bloody Copyright
> Restrictions. 
> 
> We really do have to do something about this. 
> 
> -- 
> Laurier Williams

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From: "James Chambers" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: seq t'storm report
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:55:31 +1000
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Hi all....not a bad day

What a gust front!!  Beautiful laminar bands and green, brown colours.  Its
a pity the line has weakened a little.  Right now we have steady rain
falling with thunder.  But anyway I took good pics and video.  I was in the
front yard filming but I had to go to the back verandah because of the
direction of the winds soaking me.  As the storm eased a bit, I went back to
the front yard and there was a large tree branch of the driveway - I didn't
film that of course.

No hail.  Not severe.  Winds up to about 60km/h - that branch must have been
very weak.  Probably rainfall of 15mm in 10 mins.  37 000 premises blacked
out and more over the Sunshine Coast losing power as we speak.  Some areas
blacked out after the midday storms to regain power lost it again!!  eg.
Acacia Ridge area.

Damage reported at Laidley area in the Lockyer Valley and some other areas
to the WSW and SW of Brisbane.  Consists of trees and powerlines down.
Almost makes up for the meteor storm - really light meteor drizzle!  I saw 6
in 3.5 hours!  I'll get back to you all.

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James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "paulmoss" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: East Coast Low & Severe TS Advice 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:23:34 +1100
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The Mid North Coast today from 3am til about 12pm was thrashed by a cold
centred cyclone or a east coast low. Winds of up to 120km/h were reported,
and rainfall figures of 100mm fro 12 hours are not uncommon. Here at my
house, we have had 71.4mm, now doubling our November average. This takes our
yearly figure up to 1527mm. Further rain is predicted tonight, and a severe
TS warning has been issued!! Stay tuned for more info!

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From: "Michael Thompson" 
To: "Roger Edwards" ,
        "Gilbert L. Sebenste" ,
        "Tim Vasquez" <71611.2267 at compuserve.com>,
        "Andrew Treloar" , "Ira" ,
        "Paul Graham" ,
        "\"Michael Bath\" ,
        "Jimmy.Deguara" ,
        " at ozemail.com.au
Subject: aussie-weather: Severe Storms - 13th November 1998
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:43:25 +1100
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Report with photos of Friday the 13th's severe storms are at

http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase8.htm

there is also a link to Australian Severe Weather at the bottom of the page,
that report has more photos of the severe storm.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com