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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 7th December 1998

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001 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        ASWS
002 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Poll of Storm Society Name
003 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Poll of Society Name
004 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     TC Thelma
005 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               society name
006 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Vicorian Fire Alerts
007 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          Name for Storm Society...
008 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)          New Society Name
009 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       TC names
010 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       name of new association: ASWA
011 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               ASWA
012 "Paul Britton Jr." [webmaster at weatherguide.co  Hello
013 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Risk of strong storms in Perth?
014 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Hello
015 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  MRF storm hopeful's this week...
016 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               Thelma
017 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]            Possible new cyclone
018 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    NE NSW Severe T'storm Advice
019 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Cyclone Thelma SatPic.
020 david.croan at agal.gov.au (David Croan)          NE NSW Severe T'storm Advice
021 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        name of new association: ASWA
022 vortex at wwdg.com                                name of new association: ASWA
023 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    TC Warning inc Darwin!
024 "Paul Britton Jr." [webmaster at weatherguide.co  TC Warning inc Darwin!
025 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Storms
026 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            New Society Name
027 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Admin: slow mail...
028 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       TCs affecting Darwin
029 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Mail service
030 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Mail service
031 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]           Mail service
032 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Monster Brewing North of Darwin?
033 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Society name...
034 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Name for Storm Society...
035 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Another Cyclone?
036 Jacob [jacob at iinet.net.au]                     Another Cyclone?
037 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Sunshine Coast Storm Chase
038 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       chasers in Darwin: TC Thelma
039 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        chasers in Darwin: TC Thelma
040 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Cyclone Thelma SatPic.
041 "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]            Cyclone Thelma is looking to be a Category 5 by tomorrow eve

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001

Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:52:26 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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Hi all,

I have been educated and converted.
"The Australian Severe Weather Society"  (ASWS)
I will definitely vote 1 to this.
It does say the most without the pre judgement of chasing.
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au

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From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Poll of Storm Society Name
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 98 05:53:31 PST
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Morning Matthew.  Not being a "chaser", but still really interested in weather, I'd go for No 1 or No 4. Chasing   really is not appropriate for overage, overweight, underfit ladies such as myself.  I do hope the Society is successful and will watch with interest.

Nan

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Hi All,
>
> I was asked on behalf of all those who attended last nights inaugural meeting
> to find out which of the following names would be preferred.
>
> 1. Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW
> 2. Australian Storm Chasers (Society) ASC
> 3. Storm Chasers Australia SCA
> 4. Severe Weather Action Group SWAG
>
> Could everyone on this mailing list please respond your preference ASAP so
> that a decision can be made.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matthew Piper

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003

From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Poll of Society Name
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:52:37 +1100
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I still like Australian Severe Weather (Society) ASW, and agree with
everyone else's comments about concerns re public perception of the group.
We may choose to call ourselves 'Storm Charser' in private, but I agree that
the public perception is of utmost importance if we are to have credibility

Jane.

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004

Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 08:36:53 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: TC Thelma
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Hi all,

I've been looking at the satellite loops, and it appears that TC Thelma
does seem to be growing, and intensifying rather rapidly - however
recent sat pics aren't quite as good as last nights.  Another
interesting note is that one of the TC models have it going to 110kts by
1800UTC Tuesday!!!

Anthony

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hey all
well, after reading all the mails over the weekend, my mind has changed.
although the name "Storm Chasers Australia" had a nice ring to it, it
really doesn't cover all that we do. someone suggested "the Australian
Severe Weather Association" ASWA!!:) whats the difference between society
and association????
steve from gold coast

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006

From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Vicorian Fire Alerts
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:27:19 GMT
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On Sun, 06 Dec 1998 01:33:47 +1100, Gavin Wilson 
wrote:

>Can anyone tell me what is in place for this seasons fires, is there some
>type of watch or notification giving details of dryest areas along with
>alerts?,
>
Gavin, for a briefing on the current fire situation, go to
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/show_prod.cgi?IDF30V05.

Detailed forecast temperatures, wind, etc, of relevance to
firefighters are at
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/show_prod.cgi?IDF30V01,
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/show_prod.cgi?IDF30V02 and
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/show_prod.cgi?IDF30V03 for today,
tomorrow and days 2/3.

The Vic BoM used to have a page giving Byram-Keetch indexed, which
were useful for working out which parts of the country were dry, but I
can't find it listed in the current products listing at
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/cosb/stcm/idcodes/tables/current/vic_products.shtml


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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007

From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Name for Storm Society...
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:47:53 GMT
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On Sun, 6 Dec 1998 18:05:43 +1100 (EST), Paul Graham
 wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>Here are some of my thoughts on the new society and what might be named.
>Although I came along to the meeting when the issue of the societys name
>was being discussed and agreed to what most people seemed to want, I have
>had a careful think about some of the implications of calling ourselves
>"The Australian Storm Chasers Society" or possibly,"Storm Chasers
>Australia"..I think our organisation should be called "The Australian
>Severe Weather Society" not just because our goals should be to better
>understand all forms of severe weather, but also because of the potential
>stigma that a title containing "storm chasing" is likely to produce.

snip

My gut reaction was to vote for SCA, but I too have been having second
thoughts for all the reasons Paul so well sets out. Australian Severe
Weather concisely states what the society/association is about; storm
chasing is really only one part of the whole in which we are
interested. I have a preference for "association" over "society",
simply because you can say ASWA, but ASWS is a bit of a mouthful!

-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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008

From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: New Society Name
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 00:48:05 GMT
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On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:47:06 +1100, "Jimmy Deguara"
 wrote:

>Don, would you be interested in being part of the society? Just wondering as
>you and Laurier can offer so much to its credibility. Please tell others
>about its existence. We are planning to be as flexible as possible with
>meeting venues on occasions to inlude others in the country wherever
>possible.
>
Jimmy, I'm ready to sign up as soon as you're signing up.


-- 
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: TC names
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For a list of names to be issued by BoM TC warning centres in Perth, Darwin
and Brisbane have a look here:

http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/cyclones/1999/summ9810.htm

regards, Michael

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:58:58 +1100
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: name of new association: ASWA
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Hi All,

I like the name Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA).

I've held off listing my preference due to this name being very much
aligned with Jimmy and my web site, but the name has come back to this
after careful consideration by others. I agree with the concerns raised
over the use of Storm Chaser in the name. Some of us do chase storms and
will call ourselves Storm Chasers when we do, however our association will
be dealing with far more than storm chasing. 

Storm News will be the newsletter of ASWA. I am just finishing off issue 14
(Spring 1998) and it will be mailed to current subscribers as per usual,
and as the first issue to all who subscribe to ASWA. Those that have part
subscriptions owing will receive a credit towards their first years
membership.
As always, contributions to the newsletter are most welcome and encouraged!

Given the name of the group, I feel that any initial web presence should be
maintained on http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
Once we have ASWA registered and have some income, we can persue setting up
a separate web site with a domain name of say http://www.severeweather.org.au/

regards, Michael

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: ASWA
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ok,
that is my final preference, i promise not to change my mind again. i
really think we should be ASWA, easy to say:)
steve from goldy

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012

From: "Paul Britton Jr." [webmaster at weatherguide.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Hello
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 19:35:34 -0800
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Good Day,
    I am new to the list so I would like to introduce myself.  My name is
Paul Britton Jr, my nickname on #weather is wxguide.  I live near Los
Angeles, California USA.  One would ask why would I subscribe to a
Australian weather mailing list.  The main reason is that I am obsessed,
truly obsessed with any weather of the tropical nature. ;-)  Our Tropical
Cyclone season is over, and I need my fix.  I tend to track southern
hemisphere cyclones during our winter.  I look forward to reading what you
all are experiencing down under!!  Go TC Thelma!

--------------------------------------------------
Paul Britton Jr.
Weatherguide Productions
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"The most committed wins" -The Siege
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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:53:28 +0800
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Subject: aussie-weather: Risk of strong storms in Perth?
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looks interesting here in Perth for this afternoon, right now at 11:50am
WST its 31.6C, we have ESE winds, the dew point is 15.3C, which is quite
high for easterlies here, this is due to all the rain that fell to the east
of Perth over the weekend.

FORECAST FOR METROPOLITAN AREA
Issued at 1135 hours on   Monday , 07/12/98
ISSUED BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW.

The temperature at 11.30am was 31.4 degrees Celsius.

PERTH AND METROPOLITAN:
A shower or two later today and at first tomorrow.
The risk of a heavy thunderstorm this afternoon, with strong squalls.
Humid E'ly winds tending S'ly tomorrow.

 TODAY'S MAX: 32
 TOMORROW'S  MIN: 17  MAX: 29.

Jacob

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At 07:35 PM 06-12-98 -0800, you wrote:
>Good Day,
>    I am new to the list so I would like to introduce myself.  My name is
>Paul Britton Jr, my nickname on #weather is wxguide.  I live near Los
>Angeles, California USA.  One would ask why would I subscribe to a
>Australian weather mailing list.  The main reason is that I am obsessed,
>truly obsessed with any weather of the tropical nature. ;-)  Our Tropical
>Cyclone season is over, and I need my fix.  I tend to track southern
>hemisphere cyclones during our winter.  I look forward to reading what you
>all are experiencing down under!!  Go TC Thelma!
>

Great to see you on the list on the Paul, Cyclone Thelma is starting to
look good.

FORECAST

At 1200UTC 7 December
  9.4 South 131.0 East 980 hPa. Winds to 55 knots near centre.
At 0000UTC 8 December
  9.8 South 130.0 East 970 hPa. Winds to 65 knots near centre.

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015

Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:10:13 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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The IGES/COLA MRF maps for this week show the phenomena of TC-THELMA
going literally "off-the graph" when looking at most parameters. Best
to stay well clear of this TC. It is forecast to track toward E-Timor,
with developing destructive winds along its coast, then swing south
and head toward the WA Coast by this weekend. Something tells me that
some bad news from this TC is imminent:-(

Closer to Sydney, the Central Tablelands and Blue Mountains are my
pick for mid-week thunderstorms as a low pressure ridge takes effect
acting on some moist on-shore winds at the lower levels.

On a mail admin issue, mail to me from the internet has been very slow
today. Hopefully, this is just starting to clear now as my mail icon
has just gone berserk!

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:03:43 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Thelma
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hey,
what does Thelma look like on radar?? 
steve from goldy

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From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Possible new cyclone
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:59:57 +0800
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Hi all

have a look at this satellite image and let me know your thoughts on the
tropical depression located roughly 15� S 90� E

http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsc/gmsc.jpg

Greg

hawk at aisnet.net.au

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: NE NSW Severe T'storm Advice
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:12:46 +1000
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Hi all...some nice anvils developing over inland parts of SE Qld and can see
them over the Northern NSW Tablelands from here...I'm not expecting much if
anything, but we'll see what happens.
(I know quite a lot of SS Advices are put out for this area which don't
eventuate into warnings, but here it is anyway)

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1427 on Monday the 7th of December 1998

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:
Northern Tablelands east of a line Armidale to Tenterfield,Northern Rivers,
Mid-North Coast north of Kempsey

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon and
evening.Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing very heavy
rainfall,
destructive winds and large hail.
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Cyclone Thelma SatPic.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:43:21 +1100
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Hi All,

Firstly I have just read 130 messages and I agree with ASWA as a name for
the assoc.

Secondly, the best view of Cyclone Thelma on Sat. Pics. would probably be
at the following address.

	wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes

And if this doesn't work (which it probably won't - hehe) try this one.

	wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5vis.html

When you get to this address, change the single image to animation and then
click on the cyclone which is on the globe in the middle (pretty much).

This is a pretty good animation and the eye is quite pronounced.

Looking at a hot one for us melbournians on Thursday with forcast top of
37.

See Y'all Later.

Andrew McDonald.

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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:51:39 +1100
From: david.croan at agal.gov.au (David Croan)
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NE NSW Severe T'storm Advice
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     > (I know quite a lot of SS Advices are put out for this area which
     > don't eventuate into warnings,)
     
     James, I dont think the Sydney BoM has a severe ts warning product for 
     this area - apparently last season a record number or advisories were 
     issued for this area and looks like this year might go close. 

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: name of new association: ASWA
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:08:59 +1100
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Yes the name of the association is better being ASWA if people are concerned
with the image and so on. However, one must consider that once the public
find out that we have chasers, it won't matter. I suppose the name will
help, but from my experiences so far, I have not had any problems with
various sorts of people even since Twister. I certainly do not hide because
of what someone may think. This is because I am careful in the way I
communicate ideas with different people and am careful in seeking
information. I think the Americanised vision of surveying damage affected
areas is a little far fetched and most probably mostly out of our spectrum.
It will be very RARE where we will have the opportunity to survey areas
devasted such as Turramurra in 1991. In some cases, we will have to keep
well away from damage affected areas regardless.

I think regardless of the name, we have to be careful but on the other hand
just keep focused regardless of any criticsm we may be faced with. For
instance, boxing has been hit hard lately around the world. However, they
have to keep focused with their task at hand. The Bureau of Meteorology also
faces public criticsm but must continue regardless. Please do not feel at
any time hesitant in what you believe in. This is one of the aims of setting
up this group. For years I had pretended I did not want or like storms. I
lived in isolation thinking I was different. But now, I just say it isn't my
fault. My job is to use my skills in warning and educating the public rather
than hope it will not happen. Because it will happen...

Jimmy Deguara
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Bath 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 1:00 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: name of new association: ASWA
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I like the name Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA).
>
>I've held off listing my preference due to this name being very much
>aligned with Jimmy and my web site, but the name has come back to this
>after careful consideration by others. I agree with the concerns raised
>over the use of Storm Chaser in the name. Some of us do chase storms and
>will call ourselves Storm Chasers when we do, however our association will
>be dealing with far more than storm chasing.
>
>Storm News will be the newsletter of ASWA. I am just finishing off issue 14
>(Spring 1998) and it will be mailed to current subscribers as per usual,
>and as the first issue to all who subscribe to ASWA. Those that have part
>subscriptions owing will receive a credit towards their first years
>membership.
>As always, contributions to the newsletter are most welcome and encouraged!
>
>Given the name of the group, I feel that any initial web presence should be
>maintained on http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
>Once we have ASWA registered and have some income, we can persue setting up
>a separate web site with a domain name of say
http://www.severeweather.org.au/
>
>regards, Michael

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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 00:16:37 -0700
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: name of new association: ASWA 
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I agree with the name Australian Severe Weather Association. Hy, it's only one of many opinions, but I think it gives a good representation of all that we do.

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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: TC Warning inc Darwin!
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:32:28 +1000
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TOP PRIORITY
FLASH TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 6
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN at 3.30pm CST  Monday 7/12/1998.

A CYCLONE WARNING has been declared for coastal and island
communities between Golburn Island and Cape Fourcroy, includingDarwin.

A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Daly Mouth.

At 3.30pm CST  TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma
CATEGORY 2 was centred about 300 kilometres north of Darwin and 190
kilometres north northwest of Cape Don.

The cyclone has been moving slowly south and is expected to move
closer to the Tiwi Islands before the track changes towards the
southwest tomorrow.  Darwin is expected to experience the outer edge
of the circulation of Thelma tomorrow afternoon..

GALES with gusts to 100 kilometres per hour are expected to develop
across the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular later today, and may
extend across to Darwin tomorrow, and south to Daly Mouth latetomorrow.

DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 160 kilometres per hour are expected
to develop over the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular during
tomorrow as the core of the cyclone moves closer.

Details of TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 3.30pm CST :
 . Location of centre....... within 30 kilometres of 9.8 degrees South 131.1
degrees East
 . Recent movement.......... towards the south slowly
 . Wind gusts near centre... 160 kilometres per hour and intensifying
 . Intensity................ CATEGORY 2
 . Central pressure......... 980 hectopascals

REPEATING:   A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
areas between Golburn Island and Cape Fourcroy including Darwin.

A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Daly Mouth.
The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 5pm CST
END.
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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From: "Paul Britton Jr." [webmaster at weatherguide.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aussie-weather: TC Warning inc Darwin!
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 22:50:41 -0800
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>>TOP PRIORITY
>>FLASH TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 6
>>Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN at 3.30pm CST  Monday
>>7/12/1998.
>>
>>A CYCLONE WARNING has been declared for coastal and island
>>communities between Golburn Island and Cape Fourcroy, includingDarwin.


	Wow, how often is Darwin threatened from a Tropical Cyclone..not all that
often, right?

Paul
wxguide

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Storms
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:11:27 +1100
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The Lifted Index is showing some possible stormy weather in Thursday. Will
keep you posted.

And yes I agree, cyclones occur less frequently in Darwin.

I am excited to see more and more people joining the list. Please note that
we are ina  process of forming a group for severe weather enthusiasts. Those
new to the list, please express their interest..
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 06:19:52 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Jimmy...
So am I.
Don

Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 5 Dec 1998 19:47:06 +1100, "Jimmy Deguara"
>  wrote:
> 
> >Don, would you be interested in being part of the society? Just wondering as
> >you and Laurier can offer so much to its credibility. Please tell others
> >about its existence. We are planning to be as flexible as possible with
> >meeting venues on occasions to inlude others in the country wherever
> >possible.
> >
> Jimmy, I'm ready to sign up as soon as you're signing up.
> 
> --
> Laurier Williams
> Australian Weather Links and News

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 18:29:10 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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I've been analysing the headers of some mail that has taken up to 6
days to get delivered. Expect that many mail messages posted in the
last few days will take several days to be delivered or may never be
delivered at all. There seems to be mail problems in the greater
internet.

What happens is that any initial delivery problems will cause the mail
gateway to "back-off" and queue the mail. Each successive failed
delivery attempt may cause a further back-off until the mail is
declared undeliverable. A notice is then sent to the sender. Even this
notice may be undeliverable! The amount of time that this may take is
configured by the mail gateway administrator subject largely to how
much capacity is available on the mail server to queue undeliverable
mail.

When the problems have been resolved, subsequent rapid successful new
mail delivery may confuse senders and recipients. What happens is that
most mail gateways will attempt to deliver new mail ASAP. This ensures
that the undeliverable queue grows no larger by virtue of new,
potentially deliverable mail joining old mail on such a
"first-in-first-out" undeliverable queue.

So mail choas happens:-( To reduce the extent of this problem, we need
to find a majordomo or ezmlm server that is further removed from
general internet chaos which seems to cause these problems. This means
that mail to aussie-weather should pass through fewer gateways hence
reducing the risk of delayed mail delivery.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:25:03 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: TCs affecting Darwin
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The Darwin area experiences a TC most seasons, typically December or
January, though it is quite rare for one to directly affect Darwin city -
the notable one being Tracy on 25/12/1974 when a small category 4 came
ashore along the NW coastal suburbs devastating the city. For tracks and
other TC info check out my cyclone pages:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/cyclones/

regards, Michael


At 22:50 6/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>	Wow, how often is Darwin threatened from a Tropical Cyclone..not all that
>often, right?
>
>Paul
>wxguide

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Mail service
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:43:24 +1100
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I've had a look at most of the mail for the past 7 days and have noticed
that Ben, Anthony & David appear to have either slow outgoing mail servers
or the mail setting is possibly set to "Send later". Mail from the rest of
us seems to be getting through in a timely fashion ie: 2 - 10 minutes,
whereas the aforementioned can be taking an hour to an hour and a half.

Could we all check the dates and times on computers and relook at this a
little later before we uproot ourselves.
ahem, for example I receive mail from this list 1-2 minutes before I send
it! 

Jane

>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael
>Scollay
>Sent: Monday, 7 December 1998 6:29
>To: Aussie Weather
>Subject: aussie-weather: Admin: slow mail...
>
>>I've been analysing the headers of some mail that has taken up to 6
>days to get delivered. Expect that many mail messages posted in the
>last few days will take several days to be delivered or may never be
>delivered at all. There seems to be mail problems in the greater
>internet.


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I find that nearly all the time the mail arrives almost staight away,
remember that Ben and Anthony may seem to arrive an hour late, because of
the 1 hour time difference between Queensland and Victoria/New South Wales,
and there is 16 hour time difference between Victoria and Boston where Dave
is during summer.

If you send an email out on the list and you find that you get your email
back under a minute (most of the time its under 10 seconds), it means that
the list if working well, but sometimes a particular ISP for someone on the
list may be slow in responding to it, in which case mail would arrive later
for them, but not for the others.

Jacob


At 07:43 PM 07-12-98 +1100, you wrote:
>I've had a look at most of the mail for the past 7 days and have noticed
>that Ben, Anthony & David appear to have either slow outgoing mail servers
>or the mail setting is possibly set to "Send later". Mail from the rest of
>us seems to be getting through in a timely fashion ie: 2 - 10 minutes,
>whereas the aforementioned can be taking an hour to an hour and a half.
>
>Could we all check the dates and times on computers and relook at this a
>little later before we uproot ourselves.
>ahem, for example I receive mail from this list 1-2 minutes before I send
>it! 
>
>Jane

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aussie-weather: Mail service
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:56:33 +1100
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duh, um good point Jacob.  Apologies to Queenslanders for forgetting about
daylight savings!!

an apologetic Jane....

>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jacob
>Sent: Monday, 7 December 1998 7:52
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Mail service
>
>
>
>I find that nearly all the time the mail arrives almost staight away,
>remember that Ben and Anthony may seem to arrive an hour late, because of
>the 1 hour time difference between Queensland and Victoria/New South Wales,
>and there is 16 hour time difference between Victoria and Boston where Dave
>is during summer.
>
>If you send an email out on the list and you find that you get your email
>back under a minute (most of the time its under 10 seconds), it means that
>the list if working well, but sometimes a particular ISP for someone on the
>list may be slow in responding to it, in which case mail would arrive later
>for them, but not for the others.
>
>Jacob

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 19:19:51 +1100
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,

I was just looking at the new models for TC Thelma - it's forecasted to
go to 150kts in 48hrs!!!  Which would be absolutely devasting if it were
to hit land!  At the moment it's a Cat 3 with winds up to 170km/h,
fortunately for Darwin it has it moving slowly SW, lets hope it doesn't
do a Tracy...

Anthony

1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 06S (THELMA) WARNING NR 005    
   02 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
    ---
   WARNING POSITION:
   070600Z3 --- NEAR 10.0S1 131.0E5
     MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 205 DEGREES AT 02 KTS
     POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 030 NM
     POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY SATELLITE
   PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 090 KT, GUSTS 110 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM 
   RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 095 NM OVER WATER
   REPEAT POSIT: NEAR 10.0S1 131.0E5
    ---
   FORECASTS:
   12 HRS, VALID AT:
   071800Z6 --- 10.2S3 130.9E3
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 100 KT, GUSTS 125 KT
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM 
   RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 100 NM OVER WATER
   VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 225 DEG/ 01 KTS
    ---
   24 HRS, VALID AT:
   080600Z4 --- 10.4S5 130.7E1
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 115 KT, GUSTS 140 KT
   RADIUS OF 100 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM OVER WATER
   RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 110 NM OVER WATER
   VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 245 DEG/ 02 KTS
    ---
   36 HRS, VALID AT:
   081800Z7 --- 10.6S7 130.3E7
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 120 KT, GUSTS 145 KT
   RADIUS OF 100 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM OVER WATER
   RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 120 NM OVER WATER
   VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 245 DEG/ 03 KTS
    ---
   EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
   48 HRS, VALID AT:
   090600Z5 --- 10.9S0 129.7E9
   MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 125 KT, GUSTS 150 KT
   RADIUS OF 100 KT WINDS - 020 NM 
   RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM OVER WATER
   RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 130 NM OVER WATER

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:31:03 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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In trolling through todays mail with people's comments about the
society name, I thought about "what's in a name" v/s the activities
such a society (with that name) would carry out...

1) We monitor and analyse weather: In particular severe weather, for
the purposes of fuelling our adrenalin observing a storm while
ensuring the well-being of ourselves and the community. I'm a great
believer that the best thoeries arise from practical observation. It's
a continual process of theory validation through observation that
works best.

2) Analysing weather and producing a result: Be that a storm chase,
some great photos or video and a mature understanding of the natural
processes involved. The analysis and some decent result are
inseparable.

3) The society will need all sorts of people: we need those who'd
rather sit at home with family around surfing the weather-net for the
ultimate understanding and those with enough time and guts to chase a
supercell to its ultimate destiny.

Being concerned about the society's financial viability, I had to put
on a marketing hat and decide which name would do more to attract
members, free publicity and reasonable sponsorship. A good name would
help us achieve these goals. So I suppressed my private and
conservative side and agreed to an unambiguous and somewhat exciting
name. I also thought that above all, we must operate with
professionalism and respect for our environment. Gradually, we would
become better known, not necessarily for the storm chase per say,
which might be the publicity side initially, but for the incredible
value a better understanding and respect for severe weather can add to
the community.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 12:14:08 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Paul Graham wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Here are some of my thoughts on the new society...[snip]...
> Such an organisation as ours could potentially attract wide publicity at
> times so, for this reason, it is important to create a favourable
> impression amongst the public from the beginning, not least for
> credibilitys sake...[snip]...What do people think?

I agree will Paul which is why I put a second preference (ASW). Is it
possible to judge public opinion about SCA in advance? What
experiences have other "storm chasing" groups documented on this
issue? Which groups have been more viable and successful? Maybe we
should poll the media for their reactions to the two preferred names?

I can't answer these questions yet but I will post a scenario: Imagine
that our group was involved in chase where a tornado tracked through a
town. Now the media will be hot on the trail looking for witnesses and
photos etc. Media are relentless. I can testify to that after an
"M.Scollay" (in Canberra) was sent a letter bomb last week (Oh! the
phone calls!). So the media ask a member of the chase team who they
are, what they saw and what they did. What name would you be prepared
to utter? Could you then take the barrage of questions even if they
went along the lines of what we did or didn't do, to help warn or
assist the people of the town?

I'm rather hoping in circumstances such as the above, that we are
judged on what we do and how we behave rather than what our name is.
That could be naive since one can't trust the media when it comes to
scapegoat hunt. I also don't want to throw caution to the wind or
become an "Accidental Hero" by being silent and media adverse.

Before deciding on the implications of SCA v/s ASW, I'd like to
consider other opinions.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Greg mentioned some activity on the satellite roughly 15� S 90� E, well,
the Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre are now saying that this may
develop into a cyclone in the next 18 to 24 hours.

Issued at 11am UTC (7pm WST/10pm EDT)

IDW50W16
40:0:2:24:11S095E999:11:00
SECURITE

HIGH SEAS WEATHER WARNING FOR METAREA 10 ISSUED BY THE AUSTRALIAN
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH AT
1100 UTC 07 DECEMBER 1998
GALE WARNING FOR WESTERN AREA

SITUATION
Tropical low with central pressure 1002 hPa located at 1000 UTC
within 30 nautical miles of
 Latitude eleven decimal zero south (11.0S)
 Longitude ninety five decimal zero east (095.0E)
almost stationary.
AREA AFFECTED
Low may develop into a tropical cyclone in 18/24 hours causing rough
to very rough seas, moderate swell and 30/40 knot winds within 60nm
of centre.

Jacob

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oops, I know it isn't 7pm WST/10pm EDT yet (6:40pm WST as I write this),
but the BoM tend to issue these things a bit earlier than what they timestamp.

Also they forgot to mention the forecast track at first, which they just
updated to correct it, here it is:

FORECAST
    At 2200 UTC 07 DECEMBER  11.2 south 094.8 east 999hPa (corrected)
    At 1000 UTC 08 DECEMBER  11.4 south 094.6 east 996hPa (corrected)

Jacob

At 06:34 PM 07-12-98 +0800, you wrote:
>
>Greg mentioned some activity on the satellite roughly 15� S 90� E, well,
>the Perth Tropical Cyclone Warning Centre are now saying that this may
>develop into a cyclone in the next 18 to 24 hours.
>
>Issued at 11am UTC (7pm WST/10pm EDT)
>
>IDW50W16
>40:0:2:24:11S095E999:11:00
>SECURITE
>
>HIGH SEAS WEATHER WARNING FOR METAREA 10 ISSUED BY THE AUSTRALIAN
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH AT
>1100 UTC 07 DECEMBER 1998
>GALE WARNING FOR WESTERN AREA
>
>SITUATION
>Tropical low with central pressure 1002 hPa located at 1000 UTC
>within 30 nautical miles of
> Latitude eleven decimal zero south (11.0S)
> Longitude ninety five decimal zero east (095.0E)
>almost stationary.
>AREA AFFECTED
>Low may develop into a tropical cyclone in 18/24 hours causing rough
>to very rough seas, moderate swell and 30/40 knot winds within 60nm
>of centre.
>
>Jacob

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Sunshine Coast Storm Chase
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:40:33 +1100
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I have added a storm chase from last week up in Queensland.

The more I look at the photos the more I think that I may have a supercell,
but I am not confident in calling it, what di you guys think ?
http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase9.htm


Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: chasers in Darwin: TC Thelma
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We have four chasers who frequent this list in Darwin at the moment: Paul
Mossman, Matt Smith, Nick Sykes and ???

I spoke to Paul a short while ago and he indicated that squally showers had
developed this afternoon with gusts around 40 knots from the NE so far. If
this system moves much further south, they and the rest of Darwins
residents (my brother included) will be in for some very heavy weather
tomorrow !

Will keep you posted with any further 'live' reports.

regards, Michael

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: chasers in Darwin: TC Thelma
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:49:04 +1100
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Michael, It is very difficult to tell at this stage as the whole storm is
not in the photo. There seems to be a rotating column in back end...There
have been some very severe storms up there that by-passed you.

I am considering going on another chase in about a week or so. Anyone
interested?? I begin my holidays at that time...

Jimmy
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Bath 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:40 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: chasers in Darwin: TC Thelma
>
>
>We have four chasers who frequent this list in Darwin at the moment: Paul
>Mossman, Matt Smith, Nick Sykes and ???
>
>I spoke to Paul a short while ago and he indicated that squally showers had
>developed this afternoon with gusts around 40 knots from the NE so far. If
>this system moves much further south, they and the rest of Darwins
>residents (my brother included) will be in for some very heavy weather
>tomorrow !
>
>Will keep you posted with any further 'live' reports.
>
>regards, Michael

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From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Cyclone Thelma SatPic.
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:23:16 +1100
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In terms of looking at the satpics of the cyclone, you can use the following
site as Andrew McDonald suggested but you can select uo to the last 20
images. Click on the area you want to enlarge...

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5ir.html



-----Original Message-----
>From: McDonald 
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 4:49 PM
>Subject: aussie-weather: Cyclone Thelma SatPic.
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>Firstly I have just read 130 messages and I agree with ASWA as a name for
>the assoc.
>
>Secondly, the best view of Cyclone Thelma on Sat. Pics. would probably be
>at the following address.
>
> wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes
>
>And if this doesn't work (which it probably won't - hehe) try this one.
>
> wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/gms5vis.html
>
>When you get to this address, change the single image to animation and then
>click on the cyclone which is on the globe in the middle (pretty much).
>
>This is a pretty good animation and the eye is quite pronounced.
>
>Looking at a hot one for us melbournians on Thursday with forcast top of
>37.
>
>See Y'all Later.
>
>Andrew McDonald.

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From: "Greg Spencer" [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Cyclone Thelma is looking to be a Category 5 by tomorrow evening
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 21:00:48 +0800
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Hi All

Have a read of this forecast for TC Thelma, this could be as big as if not
bigger than Bobby

TOP PRIORITY

 TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma ADVICE NUMBER 8
 Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY DARWIN
 at 8pm CST  Monday 7/12/1998.

 A CYCLONE WARNING is current for coastal and island communities
 between Goulburn Island and Cape Fourcroy, including Darwin.

 A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Daly Mouth.

 At 8pm CST SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma CATEGORY 3 was centered about 270
kilometers north of Darwin and 160 kilometers north
 northeast of Snake Bay.

 The cyclone has been moving very slowly south and is expected to move
 closer to the Tiwi Islands before the track changes towards the
 southwest tomorrow. Darwin is expected to experience the outer edge
 of the circulation of Thelma tomorrow.

 GALES with gusts to 120 kilometers per hour are expected to develop
 across the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular this evening, and may
 extend across to Darwin tomorrow, and south to Daly Mouth late
 tomorrow.

 VERY DESTRUCTIVE WINDS with gusts to 270 kilometers per hour are
 expected to develop over the Tiwi Islands and Coburg Peninsular
 during tomorrow as the core of the cyclone moves closer.

 HEAVY RAIN is likely to cause flooding over the northwest
 Top End overnight and during Tuesday.

 Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Thelma at 8pm CST :
  . Location of center...... within 15 kilometers of
                              10.1 degrees South 131.1 degrees East
  . Recent movement.......... towards the south
                              at 5 kilometers per hour
  . Wind gusts near center.. 170 kilometers per hour and intensifying
  . Intensity................ CATEGORY 3
  . Central pressure......... 965 hectopascals

 REPEATING:   A CYCLONE WARNING is now current for coastal and island
 areas between Goulburn Island and Cape Fourcroy including Darwin.
 A CYCLONE WATCH extends south to Daly Mouth.

 The NEXT ADVICE will be issued at 11pm CST

 END.

Greg

Document: 981207.htm
Updated: 25th February, 1999

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