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    From                                           Subject
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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Merry Xmas
002 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Media watch
003 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Merry Xmas
004 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Maps of Australia
005 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Media watch
006 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Maps of Australia
007 disarm at braenet.com.au                          where are the storms? :)
008 disarm at braenet.com.au                          Volcanic Thunderstorm
009 Ben Munro [benjamin at biosys.net]                Volcanic Thunderstorm
010 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               Volcanic Thunderstorm
011 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        where are the storms? :)
012 "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]         Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year
013 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        (no subject)
014 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]               volcanic thunderstorm
015 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       Northern NSW storm event 18/12/98.
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Maps of Australia
017 Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]         Chrissy
018 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]        Dead Cyclone??
019 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   14th December Chase Report ( plus 11
020 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Thanks

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001

From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Merry Xmas
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:28:36 +1000
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Hi all

I'd just like to wish everybody a very happy Xmas.  If you do not celebrate
Xmas, have a great time anyway, and I'm hoping that everyone will get some
better weather within the week!

By the way, I just saw this in the Sydney Friday forecast -- they have a
sense of humour!
Sydney Outlook:
 Wednesday Fine. E/NE winds.        City Max:     25
Thursday Fine. E/NE winds.              City Max:     25
Friday   Ho Ho Ho and fine. NE winds.      City Max:     25

Regards
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html

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002

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aussie-weather: Media watch
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:19:41 +1100 (EST)
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Two howlers from recent newspapers:

- The Launceston 'Examiner', not a newspaper renowned for its 
attention to accuracy (they once printed a court report claiming
that someone had been fined for possession of an unlicenced forearm -
I wasn't aware that was actually illegal in Tasmania), claimed that
December 11 was Hobart's hottest day for 53 years. In fact it wasn't
Hobart's hottest day in 53 weeks! (38.2, compared with 39.6 on
January 17). I suspect they meant to say that it was the hottest
December day in 53 years.

- The Melbourne 'Herald-Sun' quoted Harvey Stern (of the Bureau's
Victorian office) as saying that Australia's mean temperature for the
year to November was 8.8 degrees above normal. Methinks a decimal
point was in the wrong place...

These are continuations of a long and glorious tradition; who that
saw it will forget Prime Television (Canberra)'s breathless reporting
of 3 January 1990 as 'the hottest day this decade'? (actually, it 
ended up retaining its status until January 18 this year).

Anyone else with recent candidates for gross inaccuracy or 
entertaining exaggeration?

Blair Trewin

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003

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Merry Xmas
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:47:27 +1100
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and I don't think Xmas Day will stay as low as 25C, boxing day - Sunday
could be interesting for the yatch race.


Michael

-----Original Message-----
>Hi all
>
>I'd just like to wish everybody a very happy Xmas.  If you do not celebrate
>Xmas, have a great time anyway, and I'm hoping that everyone will get some
>better weather within the week!
>
>By the way, I just saw this in the Sydney Friday forecast -- they have a
>sense of humour!
>Sydney Outlook:
> Wednesday Fine. E/NE winds.        City Max:     25
>Thursday Fine. E/NE winds.              City Max:     25
>Friday   Ho Ho Ho and fine. NE winds.      City Max:     25
>
>Regards
>James Chambers

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004

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Maps of Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:49:56 +1100
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Hi Sam

It's great to see you having such an interest, I have started including maps
in my chase report, but they are only Encarta stuff.

I will scout around and see if I can find something better for you.

Regards
Michael

-----Original Message-----
>Could someone please tell me where to find a good detailed map of
>Australia via the WWW?  I would like to follow your chase reports, but
>need a map to do so.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sam Barricklow

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005

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Media watch
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:14:10 PST
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Hi Blair,
The following are gleaned from my imperfect memory, and I think I saw  
them in the Melbourne Age (doing a bit of sub-editor bashing, I 
believe.)

Supposedly real headlines, they included:

     * CYCLONE DESTROYS CEMETERY; HUNDREDS INJURED.
     * STORMS DOWN TREES, THEN LEAVES.
     * COLD SNAP WEATHER-RELATED, BUREAU SAYS.

There were a number of others and if I can find the original article 
(which I've kept) I'll put the rest on the list.

Yours,
Kevin from Wycheproof. 



>
>Two howlers from recent newspapers:
>
>- The Launceston 'Examiner', not a newspaper renowned for its 
>attention to accuracy (they once printed a court report claiming
>that someone had been fined for possession of an unlicenced forearm -
>I wasn't aware that was actually illegal in Tasmania), claimed that
>December 11 was Hobart's hottest day for 53 years. In fact it wasn't
>Hobart's hottest day in 53 weeks! (38.2, compared with 39.6 on
>January 17). I suspect they meant to say that it was the hottest
>December day in 53 years.
>
>- The Melbourne 'Herald-Sun' quoted Harvey Stern (of the Bureau's
>Victorian office) as saying that Australia's mean temperature for the
>year to November was 8.8 degrees above normal. Methinks a decimal
>point was in the wrong place...
>
>These are continuations of a long and glorious tradition; who that
>saw it will forget Prime Television (Canberra)'s breathless reporting
>of 3 January 1990 as 'the hottest day this decade'? (actually, it 
>ended up retaining its status until January 18 this year).
>
>Anyone else with recent candidates for gross inaccuracy or 
>entertaining exaggeration?
>
>Blair Trewin

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006

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Maps of Australia
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:30:22 PST
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Hi Sam,
The whereis site is great if you're near a capital city or the Gold 
Coast but if you want a zoomable click map of the whole country try this 
link:

	
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqfreeconnect?width=500&height=300&country=AUSTRALIA&level=2

It shows features down to about 1 km. resolution. You just click on 
'recenter and zoom' (it's US so ignore the spelling!) and go for it. It 
even shows Wycheproof!

Yours,
Kevin.

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007

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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:56:24 +1100
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Subject: aussie-weather: where are the storms? :)
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Hello everyone

If you havent noticed it looks like the people at the Darwin Storm Cam site
have had an early xmas present, another camera :) , so now the site has 2
storm cam's.

http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html 

Thats the addy for anyone who is unfamiliar with it..

Also, I hope everyone has a great Xmas and i hope your Xmas wish, like
mine, a supercell to chase on christmas day, comes true =)

Matt Smith

Sydney Outlook:
Thursday 
Fine. E/NE winds.       City Max:     26
Friday   
Fine. NE winds. [Ho Ho Ho]     City Max:     28

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008

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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:13:56 +1100
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Subject: aussie-weather: Volcanic Thunderstorm
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Hello again

Channel 7 news in Sydney tonight has some footage of a volcanic
thunderstorm in norway or sweden or something.. looked very nice..lots of
lightning etc..
Hope most of you read this in time.

Matt

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009

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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Volcanic Thunderstorm
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At 03:13 PM 22/12/98 +1100, you wrote:
>Hello again
>
>Channel 7 news in Sydney tonight has some footage of a volcanic
>thunderstorm in norway or sweden or something.. looked very nice..lots of
>lightning etc..
>Hope most of you read this in time.
>
>Matt

Yeah, I saw that, It was in iceland. There was quite a bit of 'cloud to
cloud' forked lightning within the smoke and ash rising out of the
mountain. And pretty colours too.

Ben 

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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Volcanic Thunderstorm
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hey guys,
well i just turned channel seven on cos it sounds pretty cool!! the ads are
on, i'm hoping.


At 03:13 PM 12/22/98 +1100, you wrote:
>Hello again
>
>Channel 7 news in Sydney tonight has some footage of a volcanic
>thunderstorm in norway or sweden or something.. looked very nice..lots of
>lightning etc..
>Hope most of you read this in time.
>
>Matt

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011

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: where are the storms? :)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 21:19:50 PST
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Hi Matt,

Not much chance of a supercell in Wycheproof Christmas Day I'm afraid!
We're looking at fine and hot (38 - 40 C!)

Compliments of the season to all.

Kevin.


>Also, I hope everyone has a great Xmas and i hope your Xmas wish, like
>mine, a supercell to chase on christmas day, comes true =)
>
>Matt Smith

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012

From: "Nick Sykes" [nsykes at labyrinth.net.au]
To: "aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:30:02 +1100
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To All
  
Wishing all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and hope everyone gets great
storms.
  
Nick

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013

From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:25:56 +1100
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All the best for a stormy, haily white Christmas for all on the list.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Jimmy Deguara from Schofields
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: volcanic thunderstorm
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well,
i saw a short of that volcanic thunderstorm. nice! i will be leaving for
grafton tonight, which means i will be away from the computer!:( so i hope
everyone has a great chrissy. i know i will. *glug glug glug*;)
merry xmas

steve from gold coast

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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: Northern NSW storm event 18/12/98.
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more info re north coast storms...


>From: "Stuart MacDonald" 
Hi Everyone
                   On the 18th of December 1998 a severe thunderstorm
carved a path between Yamba and Murwillumbah on the far north coast of
NSW.  This storm had wind gusts at around 200km an hour  causing falling
trees and houses to be uproofed.  Hail was reported to be the size of
billiard balls.  This storm has been the biggest event I've seen this year
so far.  Fortunately where I live we didn't get the full impact of the
storm.  
  
    On travelling home from work I saw  a cell to the distant south.  A
cell in that direction generally passes to the east and we see nothing of
it.  However this one was heading our way.  It seemed to be heading north
northeast.  This thing was moving quicker than usual and it was obvious by
around 5pm that it was on the approach.  The cloud itself had a defined
outline.  Around 5:30 strata cumulous rolled in from the south.  By this
time the supercell was overhead.  Then came the shelf cloud.  This seemed
to be coming from the south east and rapidly.  I had an opportunity to go
outside just before the storm hit and underneath the dark blue shelf cloud
the sky took on a green appearance.  There was another cell to the south
west which makes me think we experienced that storm as well.  The gust
front hit and surprising there wasn't any hail in our area.  The wind was
bending bushes and trees and at the height of the storm lightning was close
with loud claps of thunder.  The main feature of the storm was the strong
wind gusts which may  at times have reached around 100km hour.  Rain was
heavy and we received 43mm within the hour.  The storm hit around 6pm and
lasted 40 minutes.  During the storm like many others we lost power
believed to be caused by a lightning strike on a transformer.  Tree
branches fell across the road.  
  
    After the storm had passed the sky to the north and northwest took on a
deep blue appearance.  By dusk several cells of lightning were  seen in
this one supercell from the east through to the northwest.  The rest of the
evening was uneventful.
  
    This was one of the most spectacular storms I have seen for some time.
It was  interesting how the main body of the storm seem to come in off the
coast.  News reports of damage to homes even aircraft overturned in their
hanger was caused by the storm.  I was only glad we didn't have a repeat
the next night.  
  
    Hope you all found this an interesting read.  
  
          Cheers     Stuart Macdonald.    macka at nor.com.au

*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Maps of Australia
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:12:03 +1100
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Once you get the hang of it I is really good,

Thanks
Michael
-----Original Message-----
>Hi Sam,
>The whereis site is great if you're near a capital city or the Gold
>Coast but if you want a zoomable click map of the whole country try this
>link:
>
>
>http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqfreeconnect?width=500&height=300&country=
AUSTRALIA&level=2
>
>It shows features down to about 1 km. resolution. You just click on
>'recenter and zoom' (it's US so ignore the spelling!) and go for it. It
>even shows Wycheproof!
>
>Yours,
>Kevin.

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017

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:50:20 +1100
From: Brian Wheldon [briwin at connexus.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Chrissy
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Hi Everyone
                  Havn't been on lately nothing interesting to report
here in Gembrook fine warm and expected to be 36Degrees Chrisy day, Hope
you guys get better weather than us. Maybe should wish some weather on
us instead
Anyway please have a very Merry Christmas And a safe and Prosporuous New
Year
Happy storm chasing to those that get a chance to do so.
Brian from Gembrook.

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018

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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Dead Cyclone??
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:37:55 PST
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Hi every1,

Just checked out the 0931Z IR satpic.

Is that a dead cyclone (or a live one?) east of Cairns?

Kevin from Wycheproof.

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019

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: 14th December Chase Report ( plus 11,12 & 13th Dec )
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:43:51 +1100
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I have placed the chase report for the 14th December 1998 on line at

http://thunder.simplenet.com/chase/chase10.htm

There is also a report on the 13th, and some pics of non-severe storms on
the 11th and 12th.

Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com

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020

Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 06:50:12 -0600
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
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Thanks for the replies.

I would like to purchase a road atlas for Australia, but would like one
that is very detailed and includes most or all small towns.  Any
suggestions?

It was 60 degrees F yesterday morning at this time, but only 20 degrees
F this morning.   This is our first freeze for the season.  Normally the
first freeze occurs on or around November 17th.

I hope to do a little "internet storm chasing" down under with the aid
of a good map while waiting for spring to return to Texas.

Merry Christmas to all from cold Texas.

Sam Barricklow
http://www.pulse.net/storm/radio.htm

Document: 981222.htm
Updated: 25th February, 1999

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