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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 28th December 1998

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001 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        More CAPE plots
002 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Sydney Today :-(
003 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Minutes of the First Ever Australian severe Weather Assoc. &
004 Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]              Database
005 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]            Minutes of the First Ever Australian severe Weather Assoc. &
006 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Bushfire near Wollongong
007 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   New Site
008 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Storm Chase Central Tablelands 26th Decembe
009 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Hellloooo.....
010 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Weather in General
011 Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]              Hellloooo.....
012 "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]        Hellloooo.....
013 "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]               Hellloooo.....

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001

From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: More CAPE plots
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:16:25 +1100
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What was special about the 24th November

http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_6hr_gdas.sh?ctlfile=pgb.ctl&ptyp
e=map&var=CAPEsfc&level=1000&nlevels=16&op1=none&op2=none&hour=00Z&day=24&mo
nth=nov&year=1998&proj=custom&lon0=135&dlon=20&lat0=-40&dlat=16&type=shaded&
cint=30&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=

and

http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_6hr_gdas.sh?ctlfile=pgb.ctl&ptyp
e=map&var=CAPEsfc&level=1000&nlevels=16&op1=none&op2=none&hour=00Z&day=24&mo
nth=nov&year=1998&proj=custom&lon0=135&dlon=20&lat0=-40&dlat=16&type=shaded&
cint=30&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=

The Caloundra tornado. These values are very high for cape. This is why
there was explosive development in this area.


WA What happened on this day?? 14th December in Sydney - Squall line with
very unstable conditions. Pretty high CAPE for this area.

http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_6hr_gdas.sh?ctlfile=pgb.ctl&ptyp
e=map&var=CAPEsfc&level=1000&nlevels=16&op1=none&op2=none&hour=00Z&day=14&mo
nth=dec&year=1998&proj=custom&lon0=135&dlon=20&lat0=-40&dlat=16&type=shaded&
cint=def&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=

http://sgi62.wwb.noaa.gov:8080/cgi-bin/disp_6hr_gdas.sh?ctlfile=pgb.ctl&ptyp
e=map&var=CAPEsfc&level=1000&nlevels=16&op1=none&op2=none&hour=06Z&day=14&mo
nth=dec&year=1998&proj=custom&lon0=135&dlon=20&lat0=-40&dlat=16&type=shaded&
cint=def&white=def&plotsize=800x600&title=


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Jimmy Deguara from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail:  jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/

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002

From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Sydney Today :-(
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:46:09 +1100
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No sign of rain.

1500 EST
temp .25.0%
barro . 1005 and steady
Hum. 47%

Hmmmmmm. waiting, waiting, waiting.
******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm

http://www.2ky.com.au

IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

ICQ = 23511159
******************************************

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003

From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:18:42 +1000
Subject: aussie-weather: Minutes of the First Ever Australian severe Weather Assoc. &
	 General Comments!
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Howdy all (Paul from Taree for newcomers!)

Please find below the minutes from the meeting. NOte that the next meeting
will be on the 9.1.99, with Jimmy to advise us where...(howdy Jimmy!)

We are all prob feeling frustration at the moment.......no storms for
Middle to Top NSW and above. Boring!! But this is the time to do some
studying & research. Investigate more where you think storms will develop.

I am in Taree til the 3.1.99 and then back at Maclean till 16.1.99.
Hopefully I will see a few more faces at the meeting on Saturday 9.1.99
(Please try your best to be there - it will be aimed at all levels of
understanding & chasing abilities, and it the weather is right, even a
great chase! Go the hailman Jimmy!)

(See attached file: Storms.doc)

The Doc is in word 6 format. Any probs please mail me and I will send a
copy direct to you.

Regards, Paul Mossman.


PS If there is anything you need please contact me on (02) 65532028 (HOme)
(02) 65525599 (Work) or 0418 662 753 (Mobile).

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004

Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:49:04 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Database
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Hey, Ben from Brisbane here

As some of you may already know, i'm in the process of building a weather
education database on www.nemas.net (the link to it should be up by tomorrow
morning hopefully, so bookmark it!! :) ).. some subjects i'd realy like to
have heaps of information on is Forecasting Thunderstorms/severe weather (Eg.
What to look for on the models in relation to moisture etc),  And what
variables to look at on sites like the AVN and MRF sites (Lifted Index's
etc), and also how to read the different maps (eg. 850mb, 500mb) in the
various models.  I'm sure there are people on the list who have been
following the models, and doing there own forecasts for a long time, and i
would realy like to hear of the various things they've picked up along the
way.  Of course you would be credited on the page(s) for any information i
recieve.  I also think it would be a good opportunity for people on the list
to learn more about these things.  Also if there is anyone who is interested
in becoming involded in the making of this database, i'd love to hear from
you as it's become quite a daunting task :)

Jimmy D:  Would you be able to post the URL for the page before the URL's you
were posting in a message earlier today (the AVN CAPE plots) ? as the url i
have for AVN pretty much has the same variables as that site, except for the
two CAPE ones, and i'd like to see the definitions .. if you get my drift.

It looked good for storms in brisbane tomorrow yesterday LI wise, but today
the LI's seem to have taken for the worst.  It now looks like most of the
action will be well inland, i wouldn't be surprised if we got nothing at all.
But here's hoping ..

Bodie at corplink.com.au

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005

From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Minutes of the First Ever Australian severe Weather Assoc. &General Comments!
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:00:28 +1100
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Hi Paul

Thank you for the minutes. I was very delighted to find out this was
happening.

If I can ask you two questions.
Where do I send my membership details to.
and
Coud you please keep me informed of the next meeting.

It is my view that too much damage is caused by these storms and that ius
only due to the lack of warning. The data your ass. will post will help
that problem slip away.
Well Done
Thanks
******************************************
Grant Boyden

http://www.zeta.org.au/~boyden/storm

http://www.2ky.com.au

IRC =  au.austnet.org and #2kyRacing port 6667

ICQ = 23511159
******************************************

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006

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Bushfire near Wollongong
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:38:50 +1100
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Yes, there was a total fire ban in place. It is still burning this morning,
but luckily winds are now light.

Michael


-----Original Message-----
>I noticed this bushfire smoke on the way into Sydney from the F3 this
>afternoon.  It looked like it was to the SW but it was hard to say for
>sure.  I heard on the radio this morning that a fire ban was in force for
>this region because of the strong, dry westerlies and summer
>temperatures... Probably it was deliberately lit...
>
>----------------------------
>Paul Graham

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007

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: New Site
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:47:58 +1100
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I like the latest status page, if it is kept up to date it will be valuable.

Michael




-----Original Message-----
>Hi all,
>
>I'm trying to build a new Storm site.
>
>The aim is to try to help the people of Sydney.
>
>If anyone would like to take a look and give me suggestions or help please
>feel free.
>
>
>******************************************
>Grant Boyden

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008

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Storm Chase Central Tablelands 26th Decembe
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:54:36 +1100
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I think the chase area nominated was correct, not every chase is going to
produce goods, but there was the outside chance of supercell activity and as
I mentioned almost a week ago, there was some cold air in the upper levels
so hail could have been on the cards.

Another factor which was against all chases on the 26th was the speed at
which the storms were moving. I watched on radar near sunset and it went
from Goulburn to crossing the coast near Ulladulla in 1 radar loop, about 50
mins I think.

Your point about radar in the field is one that is crucial, without it you
are at such a disadvantage say compared to USA chasers, who can by the way
rely on more informative radio as well. Even when there is a severe storm
warning out here, you are flat out ever hearing it on radio and never on TV.

Michael


>> Storm chases in the future
>>will become more and more successful as we get a grip of the types of
>>conditions the various regions in the country can offer.
>
>Hi Jimmy and everyone - it was a fun chase, we made a few wrong decisions
>on the way but I think the overall plan was good - after all we were
>right in the middle of the svr advice region, just a lack of low level
>moisture away from the coast stopped more widespread activity.  Also it
>is just a pity we cant get readily access radar in the field as it would
>really help in the decision making.
>
>Anyway it looks as though we may be able to head a little north and west
>perhaps on 29th-30th.
>
>David.

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009

From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Hellloooo.....
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:27:28 +1100
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Hi Anyone,

Is anyone there tonight??

Melbourne has been rather boring after the three fantastic days (24,25,26th
dec).

Andrew McDonald

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010

From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Weather in General
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:42:05 +1100
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Hi Jimmy (and anyone else out there),

I read you chase report from the other day.  700km.  That's a fair distance
to travel.  Both of my chases have been within a half hour drive from my
house (but I hope to extend this soon).  

This is for anyone in Victoria to answer - did anyone hear of, or see, or
report any severe weather on Christmas day?  I was unable to get on and
check the bureau for warnings.

Andrew McDonald.

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011

Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 22:51:13 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]
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> >Hi Anyone,
> >
> >Is anyone there tonight??
> >
> >Melbourne has been rather boring after the three fantastic days (24,25,26th
> >dec).
> >
> >Andrew McDonald

yeah i'm here :) If you guys have nothing better to do, Matt and I are sitting
in Undernetts #weather

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012

From: "Jimmy Deguara" [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Hellloooo.....
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:53:24 +1100
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I am about to be automatically disconnected - midnight and so I will go to
bed. See what happens on the next few days. There is a chance we may head to
Victoria for a chase. We'll see...

Jimmy
----- Original Message -----
>yeah i'm here :) If you guys have nothing better to do, Matt and I are
sitting
>in Undernetts #weather

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013

From: "McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Hellloooo.....
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:54:22 +1100
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Let me know if you do come this way - we might be able to hook up
somewhere....

----------
> From: Jimmy Deguara 
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Hellloooo.....
> Date: Monday, 28 December 1998 23:53
> 
> I am about to be automatically disconnected - midnight and so I will go
to
> bed. See what happens on the next few days. There is a chance we may head
to
> Victoria for a chase. We'll see...
> 
> Jimmy

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Updated: 25th February, 1999

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