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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] SEQ December T'days
002 Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au] Thickness and Temperature...
003 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] Orange AWS
004 "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au] Media Communication of Severe Thunderstorms.
005 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) (fwd) READY will be down...
006 Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au Anybody interested
007 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] English Meaning of ASWA Motto
008 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] ASWA Logo
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Chase Report (Photo Questions)
011 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
012 Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au] Storm Warning
013 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] melbourne storm
014 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com] Melbourne-storms around
015 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Melbourne Storm Warning
016 "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net] melbourne storm
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Melbourne Storm Warning
018 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au] Melbourne contrasts
019 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com] Bounced Message
020 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobwe SA heat (was:Melbourne Storm Warning)
021 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Orange AWS
022 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] SA heat (was:Melbourne Storm Warning)
023 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] melbourne storm
024 "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net] Melbourne contrasts
025 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Meeting
026 steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au] melbourne storm
027 "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com] Re:NW Vic storms!
028 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
029 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Orange Weather (or lack of decent storms)
030 Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au] Re:NW Vic storms!
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001
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: SEQ December T'days
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:56:58 +1000
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Hi all, James from Brisbane here
Well its a few days after the fact, but here are the thunderday summaries of
December 1998. It may look a lot, but there were probably a below average
amount of storms.
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm/t_days98/dec.html
The dates in red are those when a severe t'storm advice/warning was in force
for some part of the day and those with an asterisk (*) are the days when it
was a thunderday at my place.
I'll do a report about the goings on of 1998 soon.
Regards
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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002
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 03:46:52 +1100 (EST)
From: Paul Graham [pgraham1 at mail.usyd.edu.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Thickness and Temperature...
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Hi Mark,
I have to say that I didn't check in the book first but I was
thinking of the thermal wind vector which is parallel to both isotherms
and thickness contours from what I remember of the course. Thanks for the
info.
Regards,
Paul.
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Paul Graham
paul at marconi.mpce.mq.edu.au
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Mark Hardy wrote:
> Paul
>
> Thickness surfaces and isothermal surfaces are not quite the same. Thickness
> is proportional to the temperature of the 1000-500hPa layer. Whereas the
> isotherm surface represents a temperature slice. Therefore the shape of an
> isothermal surface is largely linked to the stability of the underlying
> layers. This would not be the same shape as a thickness surface.
>
> (I think)
>
> But yes, there are plenty of correlations between thickness, 850hPa temp etc
> and theoretical max temps. The correlations are season, latitude and
> location dependent. For example at this time of year T850 + 20C will give
> you the theoretical max posssible temp. A thickness of 580 will often give
> temps above 40.
>
> Mark
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003
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:41:40 +1100
From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Orange AWS
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Terry.... Reports are taken at 9 am every day at Orange Ag and sent to B
of M and appear on their report lists and rainfall lists.
Don White
Terry Bishop wrote:
>
> Hi Blair,
>
> Thanks for responding to my thoughts re Orange AWS. I can see you point of
> view re reflective heat ect when in town.
> I feel if they could move the AWS to another site such as our Dept. Ag.
> Research station which is situated on the Southern edge of town or the
> Orange Ag. college which is a branch of the Uni. of Sydney situated on the
> Northern edge of town the recording would be more representive of the City
> of Orange climate.
> I was thinking of the Dept. Ag. state head office but they also have
> concrete everywhere so again reflective heat would be a problem.
>
> I don't know what Ballarat is going on about. Orange is not a cold climate
> either with a nice crisp -7C to 2C in winter. Like everywhere else like the
> Snowys it's not as cold as it used to be. I can remember as a young lad
> scrapping ice off the car windscreen in late March. Now, for quite a few
> years we have not had our first decent frost till well after Anzac day. I
> used to have to shovel the snow drifts from our back screen door so we could
> push it open. Orange has not had snow of that quantity for a long time.
>
> Regards Terry.
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004
From: "Grant Boyden" [boyden at zeta.org.au]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Media Communication of Severe Thunderstorms.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:32:34 +1100
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> It's ultimately one of the ways to go as is something like using GSM
> Short Message Service on every carrier's mobile network but somehow
> Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
Yes could we look at this. Thats an idea Michael thanks.
I get the days weather fromoptus on my mobile. I HAVE asked them when will
they be doing storm warning and was told they are looking into it.
Here is a great and very easy medium for sending mass data.
Storm locations and movement could be sent via GSM to all those in areas
that are going to be hit.
By placing the messages only on the mobile cells that are going to get a
storm would reduce the amount of unwanted mail on mobiles and give people
up to date data.
What does everyone else think?
******************************************
Grant Boyden
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005
From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: aussie-weather: (fwd) READY will be down...
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:44:02 GMT
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For those of you that use the READY plotted charts, please note the
following.
Cheers
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:44:37 -0500 (EST), glenn at arlrisc.arlhq.noaa.gov
wrote:
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>The following message was sent by glenn at arlrisc.arlhq.noaa.gov to the ready-list server.
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>This is another reminder...
>
>
>We have been notified that the building power will be turned off on
>Saturday, January 9, from 7 am EST to 7 pm EST. We will need to
>turn off our computers around 5 pm Friday, January 8 and may try
>to restore them late Saturday or Sunday if possible. However, the
>outage may last until Monday.
>
> This outage also means that we will loose data while the system is down.
>Data collection will resume when our systems recover.
>
>I will send a reminder notice on Friday, January 8.
>
>Glenn.
>
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006
From: Local_Court_Maclean at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:48:51 +1000
Subject: aussie-weather: Anybody interested, join #aussie-weather on IRC.
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Howdy all. If you able to, join us on IRC for some Aussie weather chat.
Paul.
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007
From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: English Meaning of ASWA Motto
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 12:11:11 +1100
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Hi Again Everyone,
Just in case you didnt get my previous email about what my proposed ASWA
motto means I will give it here.
Video Vidi Visum
"to see, observe, understand, comprehend"
Matthew Piper
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008
From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: ASWA Logo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 13:34:14 +1100
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Hi Everyone,
I just tried to send a 55k attachment file to the list but it doesnt seem to
have gone through. Since that didnt work I have put the file up at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/aswalogo.zip . I have also put up an
unzipped tif file at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mjpiper/aswalogo.tif . This
file contains an image of a logo I have designed for our association. Any
comments or suggestions are most welcome. I will be designing some other
variations on this logo which I will put up as soon as I get them done.
Matthew Piper
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009
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:59:56 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: aussie-weather: NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
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COLA/MRF is predicting a deluge for the Sth Coast of NSW and
Wollongong area beginning Friday 8 Jan and extending beyond Monday 11
Jan moving northwards from Gabo Is towards Wollongong and Sydney. Last
time they predicted this (Aug 98), it happened on-call with
astonishing precision.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:07:03 +1100
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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Chase Report (Photo Questions)
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Sorry, I was meant to answer this question but forgot.
The information is all explained on the following link.
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/storm/
Unfortunately, this does not cover Adelaide but you can get the lower
resolution image that does at
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather.html
I hope this helps. These are linked from our site.
At 05:19 PM 1/3/99 +1030, you wrote:
>G'Day Jimmy and All,
>
>The photo was quite interesting and I have few questions.
>
>1) What type of photograph it is? (Infrared? Radar?)
>
>2) Is the "lband" in the URL a frequency range?
>
>3) Is the brightness (very white colour) of the cloud in the
> lower right side of the photo an indication of temperature,
> moisture, or something else, etc.?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Duane Van Schoonhoven
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011
From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 03:36:38 GMT
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On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:59:56 +1100, Michael Scollay
wrote:
>COLA/MRF is predicting a deluge for the Sth Coast of NSW and
>Wollongong area beginning Friday 8 Jan and extending beyond Monday 11
>Jan moving northwards from Gabo Is towards Wollongong and Sydney. Last
>time they predicted this (Aug 98), it happened on-call with
>astonishing precision.
>
GASP is doing the same thing -- a trough in the easterlies moving up
the coast on Thursday morning turning hot NW to E or SE and
strengthening the flow from Friday through to Sunday. GASP not quite
such a strong gradient as MRF, but it has Tot Tots over 45 covering
southern NSW from tomorrow Wednesday through until Sunday morning, and
lots of mid-level humidity. GASP is going for the heaviest rain on
Friday over SE NSW/Vic, but still substantial totals on Saturday,
tailing off Sunday.
Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
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012
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:11:53 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at corplink.com.au]
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PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY PERTH
ISSUED AT 10.30 AM TUESDAY 5 JANUARY 1999
PEOPLE IN THE NORTHEAST GOLDFIELDS AND THE ADJACENT EUCLA, INCLUDING
THE COMMUNITY AT LAVERTON,
ARE ADVISED THAT THERE IS A RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS DURING
THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING.
STORMS MAY BE ACCOMPANIED BY HAIL AND STRONG WINDS THAT COULD RESULT
IN DAMAGE TO PROPERTY.
PEOPLE ARE ADVISED TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THUNDERSTORMS AND, IF STORMS
APPROACH SECURE LOOSE ITEMS, MOVE VEHICLES UNDER COVER, THEN STAY
INDOORS UNTIL THE STORMS HAVE PASSED.
THIS THUNDERSTORM ADVICE WILL BE UPDATED AT 3.30 PM THIS AFTERNOON.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:09:23 +1000
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From: steve baynham [bayns at nor.com.au]
Subject: aussie-weather: melbourne storm
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hey all,
just heard a warning for melbourne, a very large thunderstorm is forming
about 100k's west!! anyone?....... anyone?...... anyone?.....
Bueller?...... Beuller?...... Beuller?
steve from gold coast
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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne-storms around
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:12:30 +1100
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Big Temperature contast over Melbourne at the moment. 27c in the city . But
36c here. only 21c at Geelong. Plenty of convective activity at the moment
Cb to the Sw and NE. and plenty of congestus. Fair amount of static on am
radio. Dane-Kilsyth( Melbourne)
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015
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne Storm Warning
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:23:12 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYVICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
Thunderstorm Warning
Issued at 1441 on Tuesday the 5th of January 1999 for the remainder of
Tuesdayafternoon and evening.Heavy showers, possibly with thunder, have been
observed by radar
approximately100km west of Melbourne this afternoon. With further
developments
expected,local thunderstorms are possible over the metropolitan area this
afternoon and evening.
Look to be pretty weak & isolated - temperature's just dropped from 36 to 27
as the cloud cover has increased.
42 degrees in Mildura - yechhh!!
Jane
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From: "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: melbourne storm
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:16:07 +1100
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Hi Steve,
I'm in Geelong about 100k's SW of Melbourne. There is something forming but
at the moment it doesn't look like much.
Leigh
-----Original Message-----
>From: steve baynham
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 13:18
>Subject: aussie-weather: melbourne storm
>
>
>hey all,
>just heard a warning for melbourne, a very large thunderstorm is forming
>about 100k's west!! anyone?....... anyone?...... anyone?.....
>Bueller?...... Beuller?...... Beuller?
>steve from gold coast
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017
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne Storm Warning
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:39:07 +1100 (EST)
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>
>
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYVICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> Thunderstorm Warning
> Issued at 1441 on Tuesday the 5th of January 1999 for the remainder of
> Tuesdayafternoon and evening.Heavy showers, possibly with thunder, have been
> observed by radar
> approximately100km west of Melbourne this afternoon. With further
> developments
> expected,local thunderstorms are possible over the metropolitan area this
> afternoon and evening.
>
> Look to be pretty weak & isolated - temperature's just dropped from 36 to 27
> as the cloud cover has increased.
>
> 42 degrees in Mildura - yechhh!!
>
> Jane
The radar shows a broken line of showers west of Geelong - has
potential but not really anything to get excited about yet.
Today's temperature trace in the central city was memorably bizarre.
The seabreeze front was oscillating over the centre during the day -
the centre itself only got into the northerlies very briefly, and
the temperature went from 29 to 37 to 29 in the space of less than
an hour. When I went out for lunch (1.10 p.m.) I'd estimate that the
temperature varied by 6-8 degrees over the distance of one city block.
A swag of 43's is the highest I've seen so far in NSW and Vic. A couple
of 45s in SA (e.g. Kyancutta). 41 in Adelaide. The GASP run remains
phenomenally hot in SA for all of the coming week, especially north
of Adelaide - it indicates thicknesses up around 590 in the Port
Augusta area next Tuesday, which if it happens would mean high 40s,
perhaps beyond. The forecast situation is actually very similar to
the January 1960 event in which Oodnadatta recorded 50.7 and Whyalla
49.4.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mildura Airport challenges its record for
most consecutive days over 40 C or over 100 F (both current records
are 8 days, set most recently in February 1997) - they're currently
sitting on 4 days over 100, 3 over 40. (There have been longer spells
at the old Post Office site, which closed in the 1940's - notably 14
days over 100 F and 9 over 40 C in January 1939).
Blair Trewin
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.com.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne contrasts
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:39:32 +1100
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Well, there you go - for all of you in the rest of the country, not familiar
with Melbourne - here's a perfect example of how terrain can affect weather.
1. Dane is in Kilsyth (fairly hilly area at the bottom of Mt Dandenong) -
25k east of Melbourne CBD
2. I'm in Abbotsford (right next to the Yarra River in a bit of a dip) - 3k
NE of Melb CBD
3. Leigh is in Geelong - SW of Melbourne on the W side of Port Phillip Bay
(flattish terrain)
My bet is that Dane will see more than Leigh or I because the sea breeze is
starting to push up against Mt Dandenong and the hills of the Yarra Valley
which tends to accentuate any covection about (orographic lifting has its
uses!)
Anyone want to start a book on this one??!
Jane
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:53:53 -0500
From: David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aussie-weather: Bounced Message
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This message from Jimmy Deguara bounced because it was too big. I put the
attached image in:
http://world.std.com/~dhart/aussie-weather/2kyloc.jpg
Here is the text part.
-David Hart-
As some may have noticed, there has been some panick as to where we will hold
our meetings. Well it is official: the meetings will be held at 2KY House on
LEVEL 3. The meeting for ASWA (Australian Severe Weather Association) will be
hold on this Saturday the 9th starting at 10:00am. We will meet at the bottom
outside at around 9:30am so that we can get in via Grant Boyden. If you are
late, you can give a quick call to Grant via his mobile on 0412661937
How to get there, accommodation (if neccessary), and arrangements is as
follows:
2KY House 20-22 Wentworth St Parramatta very close to the railway station on
the southern side. A map will be forwarded shortly. There is parking almost
opposite to the building which is about $5 a day on Saturday.
Accommodation: Mariott or the Park Royal $140. E-mail Grant Boyden
boyden at zeta.org.au
Jimmy Deguara
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From: Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at redback.cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: SA heat (was:Melbourne Storm Warning)
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>A swag of 43's is the highest I've seen so far in NSW and Vic. A couple
>of 45s in SA (e.g. Kyancutta). 41 in Adelaide. The GASP run remains
>phenomenally hot in SA for all of the coming week, especially north
>of Adelaide - it indicates thicknesses up around 590 in the Port
>Augusta area next Tuesday, which if it happens would mean high 40s,
>perhaps beyond. The forecast situation is actually very similar to
>the January 1960 event in which Oodnadatta recorded 50.7 and Whyalla
>49.4.
Your not kiddin' Blair. Looks like we're (Adelaide/SA) in for it. Trough
stalled off the coast.
I just got back from a short 'chase' (well, I had work to do up there
anyway) to Reeves Plains (west of Gawler) ~60k north of Adelaide. This and
especially the adjacent hills to the east seem to be a favoured place for
storm formation, at least compared to Adelaide. Lots of congestus.
Snapped some nice pileus. But nothing really got going. Nothing
glaciated. Compared to yesterday (blackouts in the Barossa valley - I got
some nice shots of that anvil towering over the Barossa ranges) a fizz.
The heat today was incredible. I estimate the air temperature at Reeves
Plains was ~44 degrees.
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Orange AWS
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:14:28 +1100 (EST)
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Laurier Williams wrote:
> With both a manual and auto station at the airport, and this one in
> town, Orange is quite well served for daily reporting stations. The
> only other town that I can think of off the top of my head that's so
> well served is Glen Innes, where the PO, Airport (AWS) and Ag Station
> all report daily! By sad comparison, Tamworth has only one AWS which
> routinely goes off the air with one parameter or another.
>
The AWS gives us a pretty good indication of how cold it can get in
that area - it's been down into the -9s a few times since its
installation. (The PO certainly didn't - it's the shelter next to
the incinerator that I mentioned in an earlier thread).
Tamworth's a real pity - the site is a good one and the record has
a long history but the AWS is an absolute shocker, not sure why -
I think we'd be lucky to have 50% of max/min temp obs since it went
in in 1992.
Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: SA heat (was:Melbourne Storm Warning)
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:15:46 +1100 (EST)
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>
> The heat today was incredible. I estimate the air temperature at Reeves
> Plains was ~44 degrees.
>
Sounds about right - Parafield and Snowtown both got to 44.
Blair
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: melbourne storm
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:19:07 PST
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Hi Steve,
Is that supposed to be BEULAH?
I'm about 50 km. east of there (as the crow walks) and I can just see
some solid stuff to the west, but very slow and not much vertical
development.
Kevin from (about 40 C) Wycheproof.
>hey all,
>just heard a warning for melbourne, a very large thunderstorm is
forming
>about 100k's west!! anyone?....... anyone?...... anyone?.....
>Bueller?...... Beuller?...... Beuller?
>steve from gold coast
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From: "wilkes" [lwilkes at mail.austasia.net]
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne contrasts
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:31:48 +1100
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Hi Jane,
Just read your earlier posted message and yer I'll take up on your book -
I'll bet you were absolutely right. You certainly were about Geelong
anyway - it clouded over for a while but soon past over and is now starting
to clear - well done.
Leigh
-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane ONeill
>To: Aussie Weather
>Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 13:49
>Subject: aussie-weather: Melbourne contrasts
>
>
>Well, there you go - for all of you in the rest of the country, not
familiar
>with Melbourne - here's a perfect example of how terrain can affect
weather.
>1. Dane is in Kilsyth (fairly hilly area at the bottom of Mt Dandenong) -
>25k east of Melbourne CBD
>2. I'm in Abbotsford (right next to the Yarra River in a bit of a dip) - 3k
>NE of Melb CBD
>3. Leigh is in Geelong - SW of Melbourne on the W side of Port Phillip Bay
>(flattish terrain)
>
>My bet is that Dane will see more than Leigh or I because the sea breeze is
>starting to push up against Mt Dandenong and the hills of the Yarra Valley
>which tends to accentuate any covection about (orographic lifting has its
>uses!)
>
>Anyone want to start a book on this one??!
>
>Jane
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Just in case people did not receive the message as there were problems. Please
e-mail me at jimmyd at ozemail.com.au to state that you received this e-mail
about the meeting THIS Saturday 9th January.
Previous Message
As some may have noticed, there has been some panick as to where we will hold
our meetings. Well it is official: the meetings will be held at 2KY House on
LEVEL 3. The meeting for ASWA (Australian Severe Weather Association) will be
hold on this Saturday the 9th starting at 10:00am. We will meet at the bottom
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late, you can give a quick call to Grant via his mobile on 0412661937
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follows:
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kevin,
no that was a poor attempt at humour, i was pretending to be that teacher
from
"ferris bueller's day off". some nice clouds circled the gold coast area
this arvo, looked promising. i don't know what kind of cloud they were, but
they were all grey.
how did that development end up down there? anything??
steve
At 11:19 PM 1/4/99 PST, you wrote:
>Hi Steve,
>Is that supposed to be BEULAH?
>I'm about 50 km. east of there (as the crow walks) and I can just see
>some solid stuff to the west, but very slow and not much vertical
>development.
>
>Kevin from (about 40 C) Wycheproof.
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From: "Kevin Phyland" [kjphyland at hotmail.com]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Re:NW Vic storms!
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 02:13:10 PST
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Hi Steve,
Well shooot!
I've just been videoing a monster developing! It started from clear blue
about an hour ago...
I was out videoing my daughter when I saw the towers go up. Within
fifteen minutes it was p...ing down! I recorded it from go to whoa,
(which hasn't happened yet as it's still sailing SE of here). To the NW
there are some more towers but they seem to be collapsing. The storm
went from shallow Cu to thunder in twenty minutes and was really dirty
(brown from dust I assume). If there was some way to get my video
footage to net I'd do it! God, I've never seen anything shoot so quick!
Sorry, just had another look out the window to the NW and it's really
filled in! If there's anyone in a line from Wycheproof to Kilmore that's
where these cells are going and they're going like buggery!
They'll probably collapse just as quick but, hell they grew!
More crap to the west...
If anyone's out there online can they tell me what the radar's showing (
not that it'll matter - Wyche's in a hole)? It looks weird from here.
Wind just swung to the SW but is swirling like crazy. Glaciating tops
glinting in the fading sun. Can anyone see what's NW of me?
Kevin from Wycheproof.
Sht I'll have to go offline for a bit.
P.S. Steve, it's my day off too!
>kevin,
>no that was a poor attempt at humour, i was pretending to be that
teacher
>from
>"ferris bueller's day off". some nice clouds circled the gold coast
area
>this arvo, looked promising. i don't know what kind of cloud they were,
but
>they were all grey.
>how did that development end up down there? anything??
>steve
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: NSW Sth Coast & Wollongong Floods Again?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:35:28 +1100
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It would be welcomed rain if it does not flood. If my memory serves me
correct it has not rained here since December 14th. The grass in getting
brown everywhere, and bushfires are a reality.
Thanks for drawing my attention to this !
It appears that the current trough system over SA is weakening and may stall
over SE Australia.
Michael
>COLA/MRF is predicting a deluge for the Sth Coast of NSW and
>Wollongong area beginning Friday 8 Jan and extending beyond Monday 11
>Jan moving northwards from Gabo Is towards Wollongong and Sydney. Last
>time they predicted this (Aug 98), it happened on-call with
>astonishing precision.
>
>Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aussie-weather: Orange Weather (or lack of decent storms)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:47:49 +1100
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Hi to Everyone,
Thanks to all those who responded to my Orange AWS enquiry.
HO FOR A GOOD THUNDERSTORM!!!!!!!
A boringly fine day in Orange. No cloud at all. Not even a wisp of high
cirrus can been seen with the binoculars.
28C, 1020hPa, 25%, Breeze not worth mentioning or measuring.
Terry.
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:57:21 +1100
From: Richard Bath [soapyb at tig.com.au]
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g'day all,
I am in Bendigo right now and the cell u got is getting close!
we have a SE breeze right now which may feed it some more.
Currently 28C but I tell ya this much...
There appears to be rotation up high in the anvil.
Gotta turn my computer off now.
Regards,
Soapy (the lurker who quietly observes but has finally got excited).
Kevin Phyland wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
> Well shooot!
> I've just been videoing a monster developing! It started from clear blue
> about an hour ago...
> I was out videoing my daughter when I saw the towers go up. Within
> fifteen minutes it was p...ing down! I recorded it from go to whoa,
> (which hasn't happened yet as it's still sailing SE of here). To the NW
> there are some more towers but they seem to be collapsing. The storm
> went from shallow Cu to thunder in twenty minutes and was really dirty
> (brown from dust I assume). If there was some way to get my video
> footage to net I'd do it! God, I've never seen anything shoot so quick!
> Sorry, just had another look out the window to the NW and it's really
> filled in! If there's anyone in a line from Wycheproof to Kilmore that's
> where these cells are going and they're going like buggery!
> They'll probably collapse just as quick but, hell they grew!
>
> More crap to the west...
> If anyone's out there online can they tell me what the radar's showing (
> not that it'll matter - Wyche's in a hole)? It looks weird from here.
>
> Wind just swung to the SW but is swirling like crazy. Glaciating tops
> glinting in the fading sun. Can anyone see what's NW of me?
>
> Kevin from Wycheproof.
>
> Sht I'll have to go offline for a bit.
>
> P.S. Steve, it's my day off too!
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