From                                           Subject
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001 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]      Grafton Examiner tornado picture
002 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     Interesting Eyewitness Account of the Dec (18?) devastating 
003 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
004 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]          Next week + NZ + Japan
005 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                NSW Tornado
006 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Snow (was: Suprise Adelaide Chase)
007 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Snow (was: Suprise Adelaide Chase)
008 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Snow (was: Suprise Adelaide Chase)
009 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Ultra-Violet
010 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Heat back on Next week
011 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Heat back on Next week
012 "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]    Melbourne Weather
013 Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]                Brisbane Wx
014 Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]                Streaming Video
015 Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at indigo.cobweb  Heat back on Next week
016 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          Interesting Eyewitness Account of the Dec (18?) devastating
017 Ira [jra at upnaway.com]                          Report on the feasibility of future chas
018 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne again
019 "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]                        Melbourne Thunder
020 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Melbourne Thunder
021 "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]              ASWA role & other stuff.
022 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Seven Hills rainfall data
023 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Melbourne report

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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: RE: aussie-weather: Grafton Examiner tornado picture
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 23:01:34 +-1000
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That there Looked to be a 'tornadie' to me!!

One thing about the article ... everyone realises don't they, that the article
couldn't be more wrong with respect to the comment about the mammatus clouds?

They are NOT linked to the presence of tornadoes in the slightest way.
 (For newbies) Mammatus are formed by descending pockets of cold air and
are good indication of the ensueing storm's instability - but have
absolutely nothing to do with the forming of a tornado later ... 

just for info ...

rals at truffles
p.s. Brisbane city swept by torrential downpours earlier up to 10.30pm this
evening...

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 23:48:52 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Eyewitness Account of the Dec (18?) devastating t'storm that 
 went through NE NSW.
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Hi all,

My mum was talking with a work colleague of hers that lives in NE NSW,
they got onto the topic of storms and her colleague was talking about
the NE NSW t'storm in December.  She suffered no damage to her roof and
minimal damage to her yard (except in certain areas) however some of her
neighbours lost their rooves and/or tiles off their roof.  While other
houses (like her own) seemed almost untouched.  She said this was just
in one long strip in her neighbourhood.  She also desribed the winds
"swirling around everywhere" she said she was absolutely terrified and
she said she thought it was a like a tornado with all of the winds
swirling.

Certainly some food for thought I think...possible a multi-vortex
tornado?  Of course possibly a confused and scared eyewitness too...

Anthony from brisbane

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 10:42:50 +1100
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Hi All,

Yet another blue sky in Orange.

At 10.40am  22C, 1009, 31% NE 5 Knots.

 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Next week + NZ + Japan
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 16:02:32 PST
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Hi all from quiet Canberra,

I am not expecting too much out of tonight's (6 Feb) change in
this region (maybe a shower and only a very slim chance of 
thunder). The LI's of recent days have hardly been worth looking 
up either (yes I know I shouldn't complain after a record January 
for storms in Canberra but that's human nature for you!!)

However, the scenario painted by NOGAPS for the coming week looks
interesting if it comes off. It is predicting a good infeed of 
moisture from the Coral Sea that will give another dose of very
heavy rain to the northern NSW coast late on the weekend and then
penetrate a long way inland to NW NSW/SW Qld waiting to be picked 
up by the next southern system mid week and give some promising outcomes 
in Vic/SE NSW. Here's hoping..

I have also noticed this summer that the models have shown a lot
of our mid-latitude highs have moved rapidly across Bass Strait/
Tasmania and ended up joining what seems to have been a semi-
permanent cell of high pressure over NZ and in particular the 
North Island. (I also know a few people on holiday there who 
have said they had hardly any rain.) I am presuming that rain
totals must be well down on average especially on the North 
Island - does anyone have any figures?

On a completely different topic, todays satpic at
http://www.npmoc.navy.mil/gmsfull/gmsfull.jpg shows a nice 
outflow of frigid Siberian air flowing over Japan. Evident is a 
nice layer of Sc forming over the Sea of Japan and doubtless
giving the western part of Honshu some good snowfalls.

On the eastern side of Honshu the streaks of cloud formed by
the cold air hitting the warmer Pacific are quite artistic in
appearance (at least in the eyes of this beholder). 


Patrick

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005

Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:10:22 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here ..

Steve Baynham is having problems sending mail at
the moment, so i'm posting this message on his
behalf:

This is a scan of the photo from the Grafton
Examiner

http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/images/tornado.jpg

And this, a picture steve took from the roof of
his house of a rotating storm in Grafton early
last year

http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany/images/storm5.jpg

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:17:41 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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G'day Blair,

The best fall I have found in records for Blackheath (aprox. 1100m) is
300mm over 24 hours on fourth July 1900. Two guys died apparently whilst
possum hunting in the Grose valley (one went missing supposed drowned
the other was found dead in the snow. It's uncommon for snow to
penetrate into the valleys here but on this occassion it did. Blackeath
is high on a ridge with deep valleys on the western and eastern side
hence we don't get really low temps (Most days in the 2 to -3 range in
winter) but it can remain around 0 all day in winter too. We had snow
falling on about 7 different occassions last year with 2-3 inches of
snow in a snowstorm
with -20 windchill on one occassion. Typically we get one to say four or
five inches of snow in a good fall up here. I have the pics but no
scanner :-( Oberon - about 40 k's away is a high plateau - 1100 to 1400
mts - that gets regular winter snow, probably more than most areas other
than the alps. I've got pics of snow on ground 3 days after fall in
1993.) The local caravan park has good pics of many falls.

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:33:44 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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G'day Don,

If you could post any snow fall records for Blackheath I would
appreciate it. The locals of years gone by can get a bit vague about it
all. Taa.

Don White wrote:
> 
> Up to 1995, snowfalls had been reported 130 times in 140 years in South
> Australia. The earliest (in season) reported snowfall was on 25 April
> 1919 while snow fell iat Mt Lofty and near Mt Gambier on 3 December

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:23:06 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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G'day Phil,

I accidently replied to Blair I think about the snow questions at 1100
metres instead of you. I saw his reply to your message and answered it
before I saw yours. There's some good info in the one to blair, check it
out. Our snow bliizard last year was insane. Winds peaked at around 100
k's and we had very low visibilty with around 2-3 inches of snow. Next
day there was snow everywhere. It stayed on the ground in drifts for two
days.

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 13:00:37 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Michael Scollay wrote:
> 
Thanks Michael,

I liked your thoughts. I was just discussing it with at guy a tennis and
he said he burnt like buggery the other day even though it was cool.
It's deceptive up here because it is often only in the high teens low
twenties in summer and it doesn't feel "hot". Our average max temp for
Jan., was around 21.
> 
> Please anyone with more scientific knowledge than me correct this
> response;

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Heat back on Next week
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 12:14:06 +1100
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Looking at the latest Forecast charts it looks like a very Strong High
pressure system Central pressure over 1030Hpa is expected to develop near
Tasmania early next week and then move slowly into the Tasman Sea. If this
proves to be the case Then the heat will be on again all next Week with
Temps well into the 30"s for Melbourne from Tuesday till at least Friday
and possibly beyond That. Dane

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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat back on Next week
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 99 12:01:47 PST
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Thanx Dane - you've just made my day - NOT.  :-(

By the way, sorry for my late response, but yes, please, I would like 
a copy of your January Summary of Melbourne (Vic?) weather.

Anything from Mt Dandy this week?

Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

----------
> Looking at the latest Forecast charts it looks like a very Strong High
> pressure system Central pressure over 1030Hpa is expected to develop near
> Tasmania early next week and then move slowly into the Tasman Sea. If this
> proves to be the case Then the heat will be on again all next Week with
> Temps well into the 30"s for Melbourne from Tuesday till at least Friday
> and possibly beyond That. Dane

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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: "Nandina Morris" [nandina at alphalink.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather: Melbourne Weather
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 99 12:10:41 PST
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Hello Andrew - Sorry to be so late with this response!

I have just recently spoken with family members who camped at Rutherglen
for most of January.

They reported a relatively major wind and rain event on the night of
Thursday 21st.  May have been some hail too, but not significant.  Storm
was sudden and apparently lasted only a short time (30 mins or so - they
didn't know I would be interested, so details were not really collected).

When they told me about it I recalled your mail, and thought this might
substantiate your (private) forecast.

 Cheers,

Nandina
nandina at alphalink.com.au

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> Morning All (especially the highly anticipting melbournites),
>
> I've been up since 8am and things can't get much better weather wise as
> you've already heard.  I'm going to try to get out for the afternoon after
> a hit of tennis this morining.  I'm hoping that everyone/anyone with radar
> or more info than me can keep the list updated as to what's happening down
> here to make my chase more sucessful (unless I cop a direct hit at my house
> from a huge storm - then it will chase me!).
>
> Any more reports from up Albury way from last night's storms?  I predicted
> (to myself so as not to look stupid) that there would be activity up that
> way yesterday on Wednesday so any more reports would be nice.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Can you all smell that - YEP - It's a storm brewing.  It's the only one
> thing that smells better in the morning than coffee. MMMmmmmm..............
>
> Andrew McDonald.

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 12:52:07 +1100
From: Ben Quinn [Bodie19 at eisa.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here ..

Well i had a feeling that our forecast could change to possible storm
this morning, and it has

BRISBANE METROPOLITAN AREA
A few showers and the chance of a thunderstorm increasing to rain during
Sunday.
 Some moderate to heavy falls possible.  Light to moderate NE winds
today
becoming moderate to fresh E/NE on Sunday.

Absolutely Spectacular skies at the moment, with a weakish anvil to my
VERY distant north .. and a brilliant bank of crisp Cu to my W and SW,
really starting to gain some height now .. also some turkey necks going
up to my NW, but not lasting very long at all.  This mornings soundings
were less than encouraging though, we'll see what happens.  I've just
taken another look outside, i have a feeling today is going to be a VERY
photographic day ..

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Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 21:53:27 -0600
From: Sam Barricklow [k5kj at pulse.net]
Organization: The Storm Shop http://www.thestormshop.com/
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I've added three video clips to my website.  You'll need Real Audio
Player G2 (free download if you go to their site) to view them.

All three clips are from 1997.  Two clips are of an HP supercell that
occurred near Meade, Kansas on June 14, 1997 and the third is of a rain
wrapped meso near Dustin, Oklahoma on May 26, 1997.

I may add a couple of tornadoes if anyone is interested.

Sam Barricklow

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Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:55:01 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [mail.cobweb.com.au at indigo.cobweb.com.au]
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>Looking at the latest Forecast charts it looks like a very Strong High
>pressure system Central pressure over 1030Hpa is expected to develop near
>Tasmania early next week and then move slowly into the Tasman Sea. If this
>proves to be the case Then the heat will be on again all next Week with
>Temps well into the 30"s for Melbourne from Tuesday till at least Friday
>and possibly beyond That. Dane

That'll mean heat for Adelaide too...
Just what we need (grumble)

Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:43:06 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Eyewitness Account of the Dec (18?) devastating 
	 t'storm that went through NE NSW.
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I seriously doubt it was a multi vortex tornado!! These are the
biggest and strongest tornadoes and they will do large amounts of
damage!! RFD's (rear flank downdraughts) do damage along narrow strips,
we get them here in Perth suburbs sometimes. Its just cool outflow from
the storm. If your on the corner of a RFD the wind will swirl up at the
corners. Its a common mistake i hear from witness's that say they saw
swirling winds. This case may have been a tornado i dont cause i was'nt
there, but its a common mistake made. Remember all TD's have outflow.
Bureau research says that RFD's out of supercells are usually about
110kph-160kph with some gusts up to 180kph recorded.

> Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > My mum was talking with a work colleague of hers that lives in NE NSW,
> > they got onto the topic of storms and her colleague was talking about
> > the NE NSW t'storm in December.  She suffered no damage to her roof and
> > minimal damage to her yard (except in certain areas) however some of her
> > neighbours lost their rooves and/or tiles off their roof.  While other
> > houses (like her own) seemed almost untouched.  She said this was just
> > in one long strip in her neighbourhood.  She also desribed the winds
> > "swirling around everywhere" she said she was absolutely terrified and
> > she said she thought it was a like a tornado with all of the winds
> > swirling.
> >
> > Certainly some food for thought I think...possible a multi-vortex
> > tornado?  Of course possibly a confused and scared eyewitness too...
> >
> > Anthony from brisbane

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:48:32 +0800
From: Ira [jra at upnaway.com]
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My mate john has hit the nail right on the head! What a bloody legend (
& my chase patner when he's not jet setting around the world ) ASWA
should be a heap of people getting together to share weather experiences
and to learn more. What you do in your spare time is your buisness. So
should chasing be. It has no place in ASWA. It will take out alot of
problems. 
	As one of Johns points below. Ive also been saying to people for ages,
if you want to be in with the buearu do their ground work for them, mop
up, go out and map tornado tracks etc etc. This is how John and I got to
know our buearu guys. Now we have an excellent relationship them. Offer
them something and they may offer you something!

				Ira Fehlberg

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne again
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 19:59:44 +1100
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
Severe Thunderstorm Advice
Issued at 1925 on Saturday the 6th of February 1999 for North Central,
NorthernCountry, North East, Alpine Districts and Gippsland Districts.
Isolated severe thunderstorms producing damaging wind associated with the
passage of a cold front are expected until midnight.
This advice is valid until midnight and should not be used after this time.

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Well, we're at it again.  Melbourne has had a rather strange situation
develop throughout the day.  There's a low forming off the west coast of
Tasmania which Clyve & I both spotted the signs of early this morning from a
combination of radar, cloud movement & behaviour and then confirmed by
checking the BoM prognosis charts.  We have had a day of increasing humidity
and in the last 3 hours have had 4 lines of showers follow an absolutely
amazing gust front which was travelling at 52.8kmh (I kid you not - we
Victorians are nothing if not exacting  ).  Some brilliant video was
taken of 3 cloud layers all moving rapidly in different directions!!
Pressures dropped to 998 before the passage of the front from 1007 at 6am.

Our Melbourne storm spotting network has expanded to include ex's, friends,
parents, work mates and associates, - we now have coverage in every single
part of the metropolitan area with reports being phoned in at regular
intervals.  We actually worked out the angle of the front that just went
through because of this.  In the past half hour we have had cg's in the city
(reported by Clyve), a storm in Berwick (reported by my ex), a storm north
of Oakleigh (reported by a ASWA member's friend).....my phone battery (a 5
dayer) has gone flat (again) in one afternoon!!!!!  Greg Browning of
Viewbank is heading for Mt Dandenong after heading NW on a bust this
afternoon and then getting home and discovering it was actually happening
over his house . Do any of us have social lives?  (other than Andrew
McDonald???)

I'll let you know what eventuates.

Jane
Bayswater

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From: "dpn" [dpn at bigpond.com]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Thunder
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 20:24:38 +1100
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Storm here in the last half hour several good Cg's . Rain still falling.
rain in last 30mins 9.4mm. Dane- Kilsyth 

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 20:21:33 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Could we have some up here please...?
Present temp 25 degrees with slowly increasing cirrostratus in the southwest..

dpn wrote:

> Storm here in the last half hour several good Cg's . Rain still falling.
> rain in last 30mins 9.4mm. Dane- Kilsyth

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From: "paulmoss" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: ASWA role & other stuff.
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 21:19:13 +1100
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Howdy all. Just got back from a very cold Armidale (temp didn't go over 19c
for 6 days...and I only packed warm clothes ....D'ooh!). Anyways some very
interesting info was obtained:

Severe Storm in Manilla, Walcha and other western towns last weekend (when
the Jimmy mobile was in full swing...) Manilla was reported to have 300mm of
hail (I doubted it but it was reported to SES..so who knows) with many towns
receiving huge rainfall.s Also very damaging winds received with power lines
shredded with wind borne debris (reported by the Power Authority). They also
have severe localised flooding, needing a helicopter to fly in power guys to
fix the lines.  Armidale received the storm as well, and I noticed many
fallen trees and plenty of debris lying around.

2. Does anyone remember the hailstorm of 1996 Sept at Guyra? I had the
opportunity to talk to a guy who experienced it ( actually blew off his shop
"lead" roof) and he said that after the storm had gone he had 18 inches of
hail against his door! I have his name and will be contacting him in future
for a more detailed update (he is currently suing his insurer who failed to
pay because they didn't believe the storm did the damage!)

3. I have always maintained that ASWA is not = to storm chasing BUT there
are NO legal issues if discussion of pic/video etc is on an agenda. It is
for educational purposes and does not impute that ASWA is authorising or
condoning storm chases. So the agenda stays......

4. Hiring a car for chases will be no good because there are more legal
complexities with the hire then if someone took their own car and the people
who went with them were agreeant to a "no liability" clause. If u hired a
car that was damaged, then you will face major financial problems, such as
"liability!" This would cost way more ......If people travelling on chases
are made aware that it is a no liability chase then the option for
litigation is well and truly closed EXCEPT if that person driving was
negligent in his driving manner (eg drunk, dangerous or downright stupid).

5. The incorporation side of things is going way to slow...and the main
reason is that they lost our appln for reserving the name...so we are back
to square 1 but not out of it yet. There are no major probs although we may
have a battle on our hands regarding public liability insurance for the aswa
management committee......no decision as yet BUT we most likely will have to
take it out....and will costs about $250 per year for $10,000,000. This is a
major hurdle...and one that will need to be decided. So a note for State
reps DO NOT make any plans to implement any proposals at this stage. Submit
them to ASWA Management.....otherwise You will be personally liable and
could face litigation. Remember you are only a body of people meeting at
this stage.....

6. Next meeting will be very difficult for me to attend at this stage as I
will be required in Coffs Harbour the following Monday for a management
course which I will have to prepare a presentation for. BUT I am endevering
to make it. I would like to suggest that the next meeting date be discussed
with ALL management people first (as I was unaware till I received an
e-mail - and would have been able to point out the difficulties I would be
facing). Please. Just helps organise rosters for those who are changeable.

7. The decision on the saw logo is got to be made. I would like to see it
done by the next meeting. Otherwise it will be debated on and on....

Her is my mobile no. which is with me most times...please call this if you
have any questions as my access to e-mail in the next 2 weeks will be
limited to 4 days only.
0414662753
Paul Mossman
Taree & beyond....

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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 21:25:20 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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For any interested the Seven Hills rainfall data since 1950 is available
at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~weather/rain.html
 I tried sending it previously by attachment 3 times but it seems to
have gone down to the restaurant at the end of the universe.
As they didn't get to me I presume no-one else got them either.
I don't know if the link above will work if not just enter it
manually.Having trouble no end here..
The data from 1973 to March 1977 are my observations at South Seven
Hills, from April 1977 they are my observations at this address 2 km
north of Seven Hills station.
Prior to 1973 the data were at the former official Bureau site just
south of the railway station.

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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne report
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:46:33 +1100
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A quick summary for you:-

1. Flinders St railway station in the city copped a direct hit from a cg.
2. Tree down on the railway line at Prahran so the Melbourne - Dandenong
line is out of action for a few hours (and on a Saturday night too!!)
3. Lots of heavy rain about the place - standing water on the roads in the
eastern suburbs.

Other than that nothing exciting to report except that I found a couple of
brilliant viewing spots.  That's one of the things up for discussion at our
meeting next week - to create a register of viewing sites with the direction
they face and the range of view eg: NW - WSW.

Till then or next time (whichever comes first )

Jane
Bayswater