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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: 22nd February 1999

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001 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
002 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  happy99.exe virus
003 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
004 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of
005 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]       happy99.exe virus
006 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]       more pics from Ballina 18/2/99
007 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
008 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  happy99.exe virus
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  From the Darwin Awards for 1999...
010 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of
011 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            Orange Weather
012 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]            happy99.exe virus
013 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  happy99.exe virus
014 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
015 David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]               happy99.exe virus
016 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]     QLD ASWA Minutes
017 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle ofnext week
018 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle
019 "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]             Ballina Supercell 18/2
020 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]         Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middleofnext week
021 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]          Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for
022 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middleofnext week

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001

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:59:57 +1100 (EST)
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Latest GASP run has landfall in the Sydney area on Thursday night,
with the system subsequently stalling in the vicinity of Canberra 
and huge rainfalls predicted for SE NSW (the model is going for areas
of 400+ mm over the 4 days Thursday-Sunday, and that's without much
in the way of topographic enhancement).

UKMO keeps the system well out to sea.

The next ECMWF run comes through around 1230 - will post when I find
out what it has to say.

Blair Trewin

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002

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 10:35:48 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
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I just have to say this...

[On soap-box] 
"When is Microsoft going to get its act into gear and secure it's
operating system properly?". If there was any significant danger of
 off the 'net clobbering UNIX's key executables like the
passwd and its data file having permissions like this... 

-r-sr-sr-x   3 root     sys        15688 May  3  1996 passwd
(executable)
-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys          989 Dec 16  1997 /etc/passwd

I'd be off the the 'net in a flash. I think it's been a long time
since any worm has traversed the 'net capable of set user-id root on
any decent UNIX system... At least that's since Microsoft O/S driven
computers have dominated the scene representing a much easier-to-hack
and potentially more-user-devastating targets...
[Off soap box]

Michael Scollay

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003

From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:16:54 +1100 (EST)
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ECMWF charts now out. They bring what's left of Frank (it's been 
downgraded, having been sheared heavily, but could well regenerate)
into NSW on Thursday night - basically an identical track to GASP now,
although somewhat weaker.

Blair Trewin

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:23:32 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of
  next week
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At 09:59 22/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Latest GASP run has landfall in the Sydney area on Thursday night,
>with the system subsequently stalling in the vicinity of Canberra 
>and huge rainfalls predicted for SE NSW (the model is going for areas
>of 400+ mm over the 4 days Thursday-Sunday, and that's without much
>in the way of topographic enhancement).

WOOOHOOO!!! Let's just hope this model wins

No more watering the lawn :)

Chris from (hopefully) soon to be soggy Canberra.

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:31:36 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
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I really don't want to get into a debate about computer
security, but comparing a PC based worm with a UNIX
based is a little unfair. Each PC user is equivalent to
root user on a UNIX mainframe. If there was an uneducated
UNIX root blindly executing email attachments, and if there
were just as many UNIX root email accounts as there are home
PC email accounts, then UNIX worms would be just as prevalent.

I've worked on computer security and it's most often human
error that destroys computer security, not the OS.

On that Sure-To_Fire-Up-A-Huge-Debate note, how about we kill
this thread :)

Chris from Not-looking-particularly-soggy-yet Canberra

At 10:35 22/02/99 +1100, you wrote:
>I just have to say this...
>
>[On soap-box] 
>"When is Microsoft going to get its act into gear and secure it's
>operating system properly?". If there was any significant danger of
> off the 'net clobbering UNIX's key executables like the
>passwd and its data file having permissions like this... 
>
>-r-sr-sr-x   3 root     sys        15688 May  3  1996 passwd
>(executable)
>-rw-r--r--   1 root     sys          989 Dec 16  1997 /etc/passwd
>
>I'd be off the the 'net in a flash. I think it's been a long time
>since any worm has traversed the 'net capable of set user-id root on
>any decent UNIX system... At least that's since Microsoft O/S driven
>computers have dominated the scene representing a much easier-to-hack
>and potentially more-user-devastating targets...
>[Off soap box]
>
>Michael Scollay

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:03:14 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: more pics from Ballina 18/2/99
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Hi all,

I have received some photos from my Dad of the supercell which passed by
Ballina last Thursday 18th Feb. Follow the link from here:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/
to
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/issue15/docs/iss15-0
5.htm

there are also some new photos added to the 30th January (Grafton) report:
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/storm_news/issue15/docs/iss15-0
4.htm

regards, Michael
*==========================================================*
 Michael Bath  Oakhurst, Sydney   mbath at ozemail.com.au
                 Australian Severe Weather
       http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 12:57:15 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
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Latest MRF suggests intensifying ECL about Sat/Sun which is much more
pessimistic than GASP. Positioned just Nth of Sydney 00Z 27/02/1999. 

Personally, I'd go with MRF, not because it is a better model or not
but rather because wet weather in Sydney-town is more likely to stuff
up my annual golf day than any other day in the year. I've recently
gone off golf since every time a mate of mine and me tee up a time for
golf, Sydney's heavens open. The last time was that rather wet Easter
Friday last year when I was missed by CG lightning at Northbridge by
just 50m and the time before that in similar weather confined to
vicinity of North Ryde golf course 3 months earlier in the middle of
an El Nino drought!

Michael Scollay

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008

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:25:59 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
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I really don't want to get into a debate either but I'll close this
loop, unless further provoked, with one last comment "If windows
bothered to have a decent root that Email couldn't have an affair with
then Hackers and Email couldn't entertain root either..." Now that
could be considered below the belt:-) So I hope others don't read
between the lines and take much offense...

Michael Scollay 

P.S. Chris, I agree with you and UNIX chaos would happen if what you
say were allowed. No self-respecting UNIX sys-admin would allow root,
sendmail etc. to go berserk, hence your point about human error is
entirely valid and true. No debate from me here. It nevertheless
remains the job of the O/S and executing environment to service the
needs of an appropriate quaranteed level of security, not to provide
potentially more hooks that break a system than you'll find in a trout
farm during a sunny weekend:-)

Chris Maunder wrote:
> 
> I really don't want to get into a debate about computer
> security, but comparing a PC based worm with a UNIX
> based is a little unfair. Each PC user is equivalent to
> root user on a UNIX mainframe. If there was an uneducated
> UNIX root blindly executing email attachments, and if there
> were just as many UNIX root email accounts as there are home
> PC email accounts, then UNIX worms would be just as prevalent.
> 
> I've worked on computer security and it's most often human
> error that destroys computer security, not the OS.
> 
> On that Sure-To_Fire-Up-A-Huge-Debate note, how about we kill
> this thread :)

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009

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 13:46:52 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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To: Aussie Weather [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: From the Darwin Awards for 1999...
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--- Begin included text ---
 DON'T ASK GOD TO PROVE HIMSELF, HE JUST MIGHT...
 A lawyer and two of his  buddies were fishing on Caddo Lake in Texas.
 A lightning storm hit  the lake and most of the fisherman immediately
 headed for the shore.  But not our friend the lawyer. He was alone on
 the rear of his aluminum bass boat and his buddies were in the front.
 This gentleman  stood up, spread his arms wide (crucifixion style)
 and shouted: "HERE  I AM LORD, LET ME HAVE IT!" Needless to say, God
 delivered [well, wouldn't you?]. The other two passengers on the boat
 survived.
--- End included text ---

I wonder whether the facts surrounding this account can be verified...

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:26:38 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of
  next week
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Michael Scollay needs to come out to the Golf Course near Schofields. Two
things are possible:

a) he has a good day
b) the heavens open on Schofields

Jimmy Deguara


At 12:57 PM 2/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Latest MRF suggests intensifying ECL about Sat/Sun which is much more
>pessimistic than GASP. Positioned just Nth of Sydney 00Z 27/02/1999. 
>
>Personally, I'd go with MRF, not because it is a better model or not
>but rather because wet weather in Sydney-town is more likely to stuff
>up my annual golf day than any other day in the year. I've recently
>gone off golf since every time a mate of mine and me tee up a time for
>golf, Sydney's heavens open. The last time was that rather wet Easter
>Friday last year when I was missed by CG lightning at Northbridge by
>just 50m and the time before that in similar weather confined to
>vicinity of North Ryde golf course 3 months earlier in the middle of
>an El Nino drought!
>
>Michael Scollay

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011

From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: "Aussie-weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:06:55 +1100
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Hi All,

    Some Cu around at present. I hope all that cloud over South Australia
brings some rain.
Although once again the local orchardist and vineyards don't want rain. At
the back of Oberon where they had the bushfire, they don't want rain at
present. As there is no ground cover they will get erosion and ask in their
water supplies.

Ya just can't win!!!

At Orange at 17.05 25C, 1016, 21%, ENE 5 Kmh.



 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:24:48 +1100
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Hi Michael,

		As a full time programmer I would find it only slightly more difficult to
at a virus/worm into a Unix system. Only one system file would have to be
replaced with a few modifications. Unfortunately all the  at ##$# at *&^$%#$#$$%
who wish to invade our space with their idea of fun are getting harder and
more sophisticated no matter what OS is used.

	If the same amount of computer users were using Unix/Linux then there would
be more virus/worm probs. The latest version of Linux is safer than Unix on
security.

I have experience in programming for Dos, Windows, OS2, Unix, Linux since
1975.
 Terry.

mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au


> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael
> Scollay
> Sent: Monday, 22 February 1999 12:26
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject:
>
>
> I really don't want to get into a debate either but I'll close this
> loop, unless further provoked, with one last comment "If windows
> bothered to have a decent root that Email couldn't have an affair with
> then Hackers and Email couldn't entertain root either..." Now that
> could be considered below the belt:-) So I hope others don't read
> between the lines and take much offense...
>
> Michael Scollay
>
> P.S. Chris, I agree with you and UNIX chaos would happen if what you
> say were allowed. No self-respecting UNIX sys-admin would allow root,
> sendmail etc. to go berserk, hence your point about human error is
> entirely valid and true. No debate from me here. It nevertheless
> remains the job of the O/S and executing environment to service the
> needs of an appropriate quaranteed level of security, not to provide
> potentially more hooks that break a system than you'll find in a trout
> farm during a sunny weekend:-)

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013

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:00:28 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
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Hi Terry,

It looks like your mail got garbled somewhere on the way out with some
key text missing. Perhaps it's the fault of your mailer:-)

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Could you try a re-send please?

Michael Scollay

Terry Bishop wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> As a full time programmer I would find it only slightly more difficult to
> at a virus/worm into a Unix system. Only one system file would have to be
> replaced with a few modifications. Unfortunately all the  at ##$# at *&^$%#$#$$%
> who wish to invade our space with their idea of fun are getting harder and
> more sophisticated no matter what OS is used.
> 
> If the same amount of computer users were using Unix/Linux then there would
> be more virus/worm probs. The latest version of Linux is safer than Unix on
> security.
> 
> I have experience in programming for Dos, Windows, OS2, Unix, Linux since
> 1975.
>  Terry.
> 
> mailto:dymprog at mpx.com.au

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014

From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle of next week
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 17:45:35 +1100
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Michael Thompson is off on Friday and a trip to Robertson, or any escarpment
areas are looking the goods for flash floods, have beening waiting years to
get a waterfall like Fitzroy Falls in full flood.

Surfwise should be very interesting as well, time to make sure the video
gear is all set to go !

Michael



>Michael Scollay needs to come out to the Golf Course near Schofields. Two
>things are possible:
>
>a) he has a good day
>b) the heavens open on Schofields
>
>Jimmy Deguara

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015

Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 02:22:12 -0500
From: David Hart [dhart at world.std.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: happy99.exe virus
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Message-ID: 

On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Michael Scollay wrote:

> Hi Terry,
> 
> It looks like your mail got garbled somewhere on the way out with some
> key text missing. Perhaps it's the fault of your mailer:-)
> 
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> --- End include part-header ---

Maybe a virus got his mail program ;-)

-David Hart-

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:11:57 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: QLD ASWA Minutes
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Queensland ASWA meeting
20th of February 1999 at Anthony Cornelius' house

Opened, 10:15am

Present: Ben Quinn, Joanne Walker, John Woodbridge, Ross Portas, James
Chambers & Anthony Cornelius.

Apologies: John Graham, Narelle Bowmaker, Steve Baynham

General Issues and tasks by ASWA members

- Communications 'on the field' - UHF radio thought to be the best if
communicating between vehicles however unreliable when out in the field
trying to contact base.  Ross Portas will look into getting a map with
the repeater stations on them.  John Woodbridge mentioned a '100km
radius mobile phone' - John Woodbridge to investigate the cost, permits,
rules and regulations on these.
- Importing Doppler radar considered unfeasible at the present -
estimated cost of a new Doppler radar lies between $500,000 and up (it
is unlikely that an insurance company would give out that amount of
money for only a new association that has no reputation).  Suggestion to
approach a university to propose a project to construct a Doppler -
Anthony Cornelius to find out who to contact at QUT (Queensland
University of Technology)
- Revamping of t'storm spotter network - James to get in contact with
Jeff Callaghan at the BoM to talk about ASWA.  Jeff Callaghan and Sue
Dargie to be invited to the next meeting - here a proposal of the
following will be put forth:

� To be allowed access to the severe t'storm spotter contact information
- there are over 250 severe t'storm spotters in QLD, some of them may be
interested in joining ASWA.  Also, members of ASWA will personally ring
up people (if the information is given) and query on behalf of the BoM
if they consider themselves to be an active severe t'storm spotter, and
whether they wish to continue being a severe t'storm spotter to ensure
only active, keen and willing severe t'storm spotters are on the list.
� Yearly seminars for those in SE QLD/NE NSW to be held in September to
re-educate people on what they should observe, and encourage people to
phone immediately after a severe t'storm, rather then posting in the
cards at a later date.
� As a continuation of the proposal before, spotters should phone in if
they observe several severe structures in a t'storm (e.g. backsheared
anvil, overshooting anvil, shelf cloud).  Possibly tell spotters that if
they see at least 3 physical signs of severity that they phone in.
� That people should contact the BoM after a 'near severe t'storm' (i.e.
70km/h + winds, near 2cm hail etc.) so the BoM knows that a particular
t'storm does have the potential to go severe (i.e., if there is only
green intensity on radar at the time, and it goes to pink after, it is
possible that winds could be exceeding 90km/h)
� Discuss the quickest way to inform people of severe t'storm warnings
(e.g. emailing radio stations/TV stations).

- Suggestions for website:

- An online guide of what to look for in the physical appearance of a
t'storm to have an idea of severity.  

- Photo competition - as suggested by the Victorian branch.  An
excellent idea, one possibility is that a 'photo of the month'
competition can be ran on the website, and that each photo that wins (as
voted by ASWA members) goes into a calendar that could be sold to ASWA
members and the general public as a possible fund raiser.

Joanna Walker leaves meeting at 1:15pm 
Meeting closes at 1:30pm
Pizza for lunch at 1:30pm

Next meeting time and place - TBA

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:14:20 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle ofnext week
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I hope they open on Seven Hills too. The drought index is approaching 55 and
rising steadily...

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Michael Scollay needs to come out to the Golf Course near Schofields. Two
> things are possible:
>
> a) he has a good day
> b) the heavens open on Schofields
>
> Jimmy Deguara

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:37:56 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middle
  ofnext week
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I think Keith that from your experience that an extended dry period within
a La Nina period should be followed by some significant rainfall.

Jimmy Deguara


At 09:14 PM 2/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>I hope they open on Seven Hills too. The drought index is approaching 55 and
>rising steadily...

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From: "John  Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
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Subject: Re:aus-wx: Ballina Supercell 18/2
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 16:38:38 +1100
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Hey rals,

Great pic's mate!!!!....all I have to do is get mine developed (about 10
days time) BTW, I will be in Brisbane for the next 3-4 days as my son has to
go to hospital....I'll answer any email when I get back.
See Ya's in a couple of days
John

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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 21:41:38 +1100
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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Well one never knows..78 mm this month up to 6pm today..I think it will go over
120  by the end of the week..
Apparently the BoM is expecting over 400 mm in parts of the southeast.No doubt
Robertson will get a ducking!
I think it was June 1991 that it received 1100 mm in 1 week. We seem to get the
heaviest 'east coast low' falls when there is a cold pool above Cobar.
Incidentally, this is only the second summer month since January 1974 in which I
have not recorded any thunder or lightning...

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> I think Keith that from your experience that an extended dry period within
> a La Nina period should be followed by some significant rainfall.
>
> Jimmy Deguara

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From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
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How about 1985 Keith? Was there one towards the end of the month? It was a
dry month even in Sydney with about 5mm or so if I recall.

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:41 PM 2/22/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Well one never knows..78 mm this month up to 6pm today..I think it will go
over
>120  by the end of the week..
>Apparently the BoM is expecting over 400 mm in parts of the southeast.No doubt
>Robertson will get a ducking!
>I think it was June 1991 that it received 1100 mm in 1 week. We seem to
get the
>heaviest 'east coast low' falls when there is a cold pool above Cobar.
>Incidentally, this is only the second summer month since January 1974 in 
>which I
>have not recorded any thunder or lightning...

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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Frank: interesting scenarios for middleofnext week
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 22:12:37 +1100
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Thanks Keith for that statistic, it sort puts things into perspective.

Michael


>Incidentally, this is only the second summer month since January 1974 in
which I
>have not recorded any thunder or lightning...

Document: 990222.htm
Updated: 24th February, 1999

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