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001 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Eumundi tornado confirmed
002 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Mobile phone fraud
003 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Storm News - important
004 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
005 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Lightning Protection
006 Michael_Bath at amp.com.au Lightning Protection
007 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
008 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Lightning Protection
010 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Lightning Protection
011 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Snow
012 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Further Info re: severe storms
013 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. NSW Snow story
014 "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au] Orange Weather
015 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au] Further Info re: severe storms
016 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Further Info re: severe storms
017 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Lightning Protection
018 vortex at wwdg.com What's wrong with the radar?
019 Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au] HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
020 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. What's wrong with the radar?
021 "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com] HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
022 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
023 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Mobile phone fraud
024 "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net] cells out to sea today ..
025 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] Svr Storm Advices NSW
026 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Lightning Protection
027 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Snow
028 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] severe storm Ballina
029 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Mobile phone fraud
030 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Sunday Afternoon - Sydney & Illawarra
031 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] severe storm Ballina
032 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] Melb storm chasers
033 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Sunday Afternoon - Sydney & Illawarra
034 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] sydney weather
035 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au] Mobile phone fraud
036 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] "he List"update
037 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Storms well off NSW coast
038 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] (no subject)
039 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Storms well off NSW coast
040 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] NSW Snow (frost?) story
041 David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com] Further Info re: severe storms
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001
From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Eumundi tornado confirmed
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:21:23 +1000
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Hi all
I've been told by the Brisbane Severe Weather that the storm that damaged a
small part of Eumundi was a tornado. One of those caused by high shear like
those that occur during winter in the southern states and close to tropical
Cyclones. Damage by this particular tornado would border on F0/F1 I'd say.
I remember a similar tornado (I haven't confirmed it with the BoM) on July
28 1996. About 30 houses were damaged in the Brisbane suburb of Wishart.
Damage then consisted of tiles blown off roofs...F0 damage I'd say. Both
"cold air" tornadoes occurred during heavy rain.
Regards
James Chambers
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:23:46 +1100
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: Re: URGENT!! - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
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This is an interesting point actually.
I was wondering if it might be wise to enforce a policy of "no chain mails"
for this mailling list - unless of course a particular incident has been
verified and it is deemed necessary to alert others on the list. (The only
case I can think of is if someone passed an executable as an attachment to
the group and it was later found that this file contained a
virus/worm/trojan - then it would probably be wise to let everyone else
know about it.)
Just a thought...
Chris.
BTW - Canberra was dry yet again, even though we've been promised rain each
night this week (gotta leave that sunroof open!) but SE of Canberra there
was a huge line of incredibly active cells. Sat up on Mt Pleasant and
watched the non-stop flouro-light flickering display, with a huge orange
moon rising to the left. What a way to end a day!
At 22:41 4/03/99 +-1000, you wrote:
>ooooooooK ebbywun - take it from the horses mouth ..... it's BULLSHIT, so
y'all can relax.
>
>.. dudes, I work for mobilenet by the way - this said rumour was sparked
by an unassociated problem incurred in old PABX's back in the United States
a few years ago .. it has NO substance to it whatsoever and was further
fuelled by chain-email spurred via the Internet - that Mobilenet is still
trying backtracking to it's original source incidentally ....
>
>just so's ya's know
>rals
>brissie
>
>p.s. dont directly approach me for individual advice via this group.
>please n thanks
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003
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 07:56:45 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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>as Michael mentioned I decided on a chase to the central coast /
>Hunter valley this afternoon. Full details will be passed on to
>Michael for storm news later on. There were some very severe 'looking'
>storms in that area this afternoon but the road network failed again
> By David Croan
Hi all,
Just one point of note, Michael is no longer doing Storm News, Michael
and I have discussed it, and I'll be taking over the production of Storm
News, with James Chambers helping me. So if you have any reports,
please email them to either me (cyclone at stealth.com.au) or James
(jamestorm at ozemail.com.au) - however you may also want to send them to
Michael to put up on the Australian Severe Wx page. Eventually Storm
News will be published more often, and with the large number of ASWA
members projected, more assistance (especially in distribution) will be
needed, if anyone can help in the near future, please email me.
Thanks,
Anthony Cornelius
New Storm News Editor
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004
From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 09:23:56 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
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Howdy all.
Massive clean-up in the Manning valley this morning as a "surprise" storm
swept through the valley. In a little over 20 minutes the storm wreaked
havoc blowing down large trees, dumping torrential rain and marble sized
hail. Wind gusted to between 30 - 45 knots, causing massive power
blackouts.
I got some great pics of massive lowered shelf cloud very ominus looking.
Power was still out to most places some 10 hours after the storms. CG
lightning went off! I witnessed a tree blown apart by 1 strike and nearly
got hit by a 2nd strike (i could feel the hairs rising on my arms so i got
outa there quick.)
What an amazing storm. I actually rang the weather Co. (which supplies the
data for Weather 21 Channel on Austar) and was askig David (I think his
name is....) if there was anything developing and he said, "maybe but radar
doesnt show much" Well a little over 25 mins later a cell raced down the
valley and actually split in 2 - on cell went to the east while the other
went sorta NE - N. Damage has been spread over areas Taree & North, then
east and South.
I think it may have been a severe pulse storm but I will have to check into
it more. What does anyone else think? Did anyone have radar images for last
night?
At the height of the rain (I received 13.4mm in 5 mins) the return rate was
1.6mm per minute which is 96mm per hour - quite heavy!
One point again is that the BOM did not issue a warning for this area. The
Hunter had a warning out, but nothing for the taree area? Any comments??
Paul from Taree
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005
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 08:25:14 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Hi all,
Ok...my parents bought me a tripod for my birthday (thanks for the email
Narelle lol) and dad mentioned to becareful with it because it is
metal. Anyway, I was wondering (excuse me if this sounds really stupid)
if I were to wrap the exposed metal parts with a thick plastic, or some
other non-conductor, would that reduce the possibility of lightning
being attracted to the tripod? Or would the tripod still readily
release 'streamers' if there was a large negative charge overhead...
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help,
Anthony Cornelius
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006
From: Michael_Bath at amp.com.au
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Anthony,
I doubt the tripod is going to attract the lightning any more than any
other object in the immediate area. It is really a tiny target for a
discharge. I am far more concerned with being the highest target in an open
area, than to consider the tripod as a conductor and attracting the next
bolt. For example, when we were in a fairly open field (just a few trees
around) west of Moree on 29/1, we became aware of hairs standing on end,
and quickly sought 'safety' in the car. And I note Paul M encountering this
last night too.
Does your tripod have rubber pads at the base of each leg? This may often
some protection, but end the end it comes down to whether the least
resistance is occurring where you are, and if so, you're in trouble. I
consider trees, poles, houses or other structures fixed into the earth to
be the most likely targets of strikes.
regards,
Michael Bath
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007
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:25:09 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
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> One point again is that the BOM did not issue a warning for this
area. The
> Hunter had a warning out, but nothing for the taree area? Any
comments??
Hi Paul and everyone,
The first NSW BoM severe advice included the hunter.
They did put another one out in the evening which was for the Mid
north coast south of Kempsey.
David
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008
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:26:42 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
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> One point again is that the BOM did not issue a warning for this
area. The
> Hunter had a warning out, but nothing for the taree area? Any
comments??
Hi Paul and everyone,
The first NSW BoM severe advice included the hunter.
They did put another one out in the evening which was for the Mid
north coast south of Kempsey - maybe this was only after you informed
them of the situation??.
David
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009
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:35:05 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Ok...my parents bought me a tripod for my birthday (thanks for the email
> Narelle lol) and dad mentioned to becareful with it because it is
> metal. Anyway, I was wondering (excuse me if this sounds really stupid)
> if I were to wrap the exposed metal parts with a thick plastic, or some
> other non-conductor, would that reduce the possibility of lightning
> being attracted to the tripod? Or would the tripod still readily
> release 'streamers' if there was a large negative charge overhead...
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone who can help,
It's not a stupid question at all. To a lightning bolt, a decent Earth
(-ve potential) is a decent Earth no matter where it finds it, another
cloud, ground, water, buildings, trees, people etc. When things get wet,
-ve charges can travel that much better. Any demonstration of static
electricity involves imparting energy to some substance that allows
charge to accumulate on its surface. This means that -ve charges will
accumulate on a plastic covered tripod also, particularly if wet. In
fact, it could even become more -ve than a metal pole stuck in the
ground! At least the metal pole will be close to the same potential
as the surrounding ground, only a little closer to the clouds!
I'd stand well back in a ditch and point the infrared shutter release
at the camera instead. This could be prohibitive though as a safe
distance is probably scores of metres. Forget the cable release:-(
A plastic cover would keep the camera and tripod drier and is worth
doing for that reason alone.
If I were to build a lightning-safe enclosure, it would consist of
an aluminium dome 4mm thick with a rotating observation window in the
side properly all properly grounded. A reasonable alternative is an
old car, with the emphasis on "old", since even a near lightning miss
is likely to fry any microelectronics within if a decent conduction
path is not found directly to Earth instead. Modern plastic cars are
not recommended since finding a conduction path around the outside
will be more difficult than straight through the chassis or wiring
harness. A 1950's diesel-fuelled armoured personnel carrier is the
preferred lightning-chase vehicle with a dirty great chain trailing
behind connected directly to suitably attired lightning rods:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:52:06 +1100
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The stats show that having _any_ metal on your person during will increase
your chances of being struck. I remember reading an article by a storm
chaser who has only plastic car keys and velcro instead of metal zips.
I forget the article (few years back now) but he quoted some stats that
sounded believable.
This is not to say that have a watch on or a set of keys on your pocket
means you _will_ get struck - it just means you're slightly more likely.
Also - if a CG strike travels 16Km to get from a cloud to the ground, I
don't think a couple of rubber pads will disuade it overly :)
I also read that if you're wet when you're struck you're better off - the
charge will travel via the water on your outside, instead of via the water
on your inside :)
Chris
At 10:08 5/03/99 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>Anthony,
>
>I doubt the tripod is going to attract the lightning any more than any
>other object in the immediate area. It is really a tiny target for a
>discharge. I am far more concerned with being the highest target in an open
>area, than to consider the tripod as a conductor and attracting the next
>bolt. For example, when we were in a fairly open field (just a few trees
>around) west of Moree on 29/1, we became aware of hairs standing on end,
>and quickly sought 'safety' in the car. And I note Paul M encountering this
>last night too.
>
>Does your tripod have rubber pads at the base of each leg? This may often
>some protection, but end the end it comes down to whether the least
>resistance is occurring where you are, and if so, you're in trouble. I
>consider trees, poles, houses or other structures fixed into the earth to
>be the most likely targets of strikes.
>
>regards,
>
>Michael Bath
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:33:00 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow
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Phil Bagust wrote:
>
> >Yes, around 1900 - 1910 seems to have been a good time for snow. The
> >account I've mentioned before in Blackheath had around 900 mm.
>
>
>
> Thanks for that story Lindsay. Loved it!
>
> What's Mt Canobolas (sp?) Like in the snow department? It seems pretty
> high and exposed (I've only ever driven past it at a distance).
Mt Conabolas is over 1500m. I recall verbal reports from the Telstra
(Telecom) techs who worked there back in the late 1980's of some very
wild weather including snow and ice that brought down radio wave-guides,
chipping built-up ice from microwave dishes, lightning strikes
extraordinare that lit up the equipment room like a Christmas tree etc.
Best thing to do if you want stories is to pay a visit and ask. They
might even put you onto some retirees who'd be glad to descibe their
experiences. My guess is that this hill, being so exposed, is in an
excellent position from which to view storms and experience them
first-hand:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:11:54 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Further Info re: severe storms
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Local news has 30 SES people still working now to fix up damage caused. Few
house were "de-roofed" many large trees brought down. Still cleaning up.
Widespread damage caused. Must be more then a pulse storm to have such
widespred damage. Any opinions?
And david C - Its ok for the BOM to say "south of Kempsey" but thats a vast
area that contains many differing valleys & hills. A storm hitting Kempsey
will not even go near here. Surely with radar such storms can be
localised. I mean this baby was building up for at least 2 hours b4 it hit.
It had a massive anvil that streamed across for 2 hours. As I said , I
contacted (or tried to contact Mark hardy) to get another opinion and I
talked with his Meteorologist. Even he said that there was possibilities of
severe Storms in the area (he mentioned a severe one near Mudgee when I was
talking to him).
Basic Facts of storm:
Rain: heavy - minor torrential
Wind: Well Id say gusting to 100km/h (to de-roof houses and bring down
large trees)
Hail: marble sized and only recorded in loclised areas.
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:04:17 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Blair Trewin wrote:
> ...
> I've never heard of a low-elevation freezing rain event in Australia.
> The most likely location, to me, would seem to be the Derwent Valley
> of Tasmania - which does occasionally get persistent fog with
> temperatures near or below freezing.
Very interesting Blair. Another candidate area low down might be in
the Monaro district of NSW (~600 to 800m ASL). I have driven on the
Monaro highway well over 100 return trips, usually overnight (03:00
to 04:00) On many occasions, I've passed through freezing fog that
encases the windscreen wipers and mirrors in ice. One other occasion
in mid-winter, the drive was "normal" through freezing fog then in
the last 20km before Cooma, a SE wind moved in but it didn't remove
the frozen pools of cold air in the valleys. Drizzle began to fall
on the tops of the hills that froze solid in the valleys. The road
was like a skating rink in these places and very dangerous. It took
me an hour to cover that 20km. By the time we arrived in Cooma, most
of the freezing valleys had warmed up. I think this event was July,
1982 - a very poor snow year as well.
The "glaze" that I mention in Perisher Valley has occured almost
yearly. The below freezing temperatures are usually confined to below
2200m (often as low as 1850-1900m) but above 1600m with Perisher Valley
and Charlottes Pass being the coldest. Sometimes there's 4C difference
between PV and Smiggens Holes. Events more often occur before vigorous
cold fronts, following a clear, calm night. They last a few hours before
freezing rains turns to sleet and finally snow.
Many cross-country skiers in our lodge have reported such ice storm
events during racing events such as the Martini (Perisher to Charlottes
Pass). Competitors slowly get encased in ice that melts in those
places where it hurts most. This encourages a more rapid finish to
the event and the traditional change of clothes at the finish. This
is followed by ample doses of anti-freeze then a leisurely return
back to PV. Thank heavens for the sauna to warm up those vitals:-)
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Terry Bishop" [dymprog at mpx.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Orange Weather
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 12:44:39 +1100
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Hi All,
Another windy day, although not as bad as yesterday. The neighbour lost a
couple of branches off one of their tree in one of the gusts. Have not heard
of any other damage.
I will be offline till Tuesday when I get back from Sydney.
At 12.40 ESDT 26C, 40%, 1015, 30-40 Knots WNW.
GO SAINTS/STEELERS!!!!!
Terry.
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 12:08:22 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at stealth.com.au]
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Paul, I'm not sure where Kempsey is exactly, but if anyone saw
yesterday's Moree's 0Z soundings, they were indicative of severe
t'storms. I was at uni when I saw it yesterday and attracted everyone's
attention when I said "holy f#ck look at that!" :(
Here are the soundings for those who didn't see them:
1000-500 mb thick: 5725.00 m
Freezing level: 591.80 mb = 4501.58 m = 14768.77 ft
Wetbulb zero: 681.14 mb = 3360.48 m = 11025.07 ft
Precipitable water: 1.21 inches
Sfc-500 mean rel hum: 42.49 %
Est. max temperature: 32.41 C = 90.33 F
Sfc-Lift cond lev (LCL): 924.58 mb = 782.42 m = 2566.97 ft T: 20.64
C
700-500 lapse rate: 6.38 C/km
ThetaE index: 19.59 C Layer 939.0- 861.0 mb
Conv cond level (CCL): 811.81 mb = 1897.59 m = 6225.61 ft
Mean mixing ratio: 14.29 g/kg
Conv temperature: 32.70 C = 90.86 F
Cap Strength: 3.14 C
Lifted Index: -4.78 C Risk: Severe thunderstorms probable
Lifted Index at 300 mb: -6.00 C
Lifted Index at 700 mb: -1.92 C
Showalter Index: 1.96 C Risk: Showers probable
Total Totals Index: 46.20 C Risk: Scattered moderate thunderstorms
Vertical Totals Index: 29.10 C
Cross Totals Index: 17.10 C
K Index: 25.70 Risk: 40-60 % chance of thunderstorms
Sweat Index: 105.20 Risk: None
Energy Index: -0.81 Risk: Scattered severe thunderstorms
Parcel Indices
Parcel: using 100 mb layer
CAPE (B+): 1131.90 J/kg
Max Up Vert Vel: 47.58 m/s
Conv Inhibition (B-): 95.09 J/kg
Cap Strength: 3.07 C
Lift Cond Lev (LCL): 888.15 mb = 1129.35 m = 3705.18 ft
Lev Free Conv (LFC): 763.15 mb = 2421.01 m = 7942.86 ft
Equ Level (EL): 253.15 mb = 10714.97 m = 35153.67 ft
B at Equ Level: 1126.19 J/kg
Max Parcel Lev (MPL): 143.15 mb = 14382.44 m = 47185.90 ft
Wind Parameters
Mean winds (0-6000m): 225.5 at 11.3 knts
Storm direction: 255.5 at 8.5 knts
Shear (0-3000m) pos: 3.3 neg: 0.4 tot: 3.7 10-3/s
Storm rel Dir Shear (0-3000m): 98.6 deg
Storm rel helicity (0-3000m) pos: 102.7 neg: -8.3 tot: 94.4 m^2/s^2
ave: 31.5 10^-3 m/s^2 rel: 0.65
Storm rel vorticity (0-3000m) horiz: 6.4 stream: 4.2 10^-3/s
Energy-Hel index: 0.21
Bulk Rich Number: 39.02
Bulk Shear: 29.01 m/s
EHI and SRH weren't too bad, 102.7 for SRH is quite 'nice' actually
BRN is 'perfect' while BS is a tad low.
Anthony
Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:
>
> Local news has 30 SES people still working now to fix up damage caused. Few
> house were "de-roofed" many large trees brought down. Still cleaning up.
> Widespread damage caused. Must be more then a pulse storm to have such
> widespred damage. Any opinions?
>
> And david C - Its ok for the BOM to say "south of Kempsey" but thats a vast
> area that contains many differing valleys & hills. A storm hitting Kempsey
> will not even go near here. Surely with radar such storms can be
> localised. I mean this baby was building up for at least 2 hours b4 it hit.
> It had a massive anvil that streamed across for 2 hours. As I said , I
> contacted (or tried to contact Mark hardy) to get another opinion and I
> talked with his Meteorologist. Even he said that there was possibilities of
> severe Storms in the area (he mentioned a severe one near Mudgee when I was
> talking to him).
>
> Basic Facts of storm:
>
> Rain: heavy - minor torrential
> Wind: Well Id say gusting to 100km/h (to de-roof houses and bring down
> large trees)
> Hail: marble sized and only recorded in loclised areas.
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From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 13:44:16 +1000
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Anthony:
Kempsey is some 140kms North of Taree.
But in between you have 2 major ranges that "funnel" weather from a wsw
direction.
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 10:44:18 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Anthony,
The other replies have covered the topic well. I just wanted to add that it is
easier to base yourself in the car using the window sill as a mount if the
storm is really close. Usually there are signs that your about to get struck
as Michael B and Paul M have said. This does not always happen.
The chance of being struck is around 1 in 10000 during your lifetime. Mine,
should I have not stuck it out in my car, would have been 1 in 1. This strike
came from a way away (2 km) and without warning (to me anyway). Lightning
doesn't always obey the "strike the highest thing around" either (I now don't
rely on it doing that from many observations).
In my experience it is the ones you don't expect to be close that really
reinforce just how dangerous it is. When the wind is blowing and the rain is
just starting to fall and you are racing around trying to dismantle the
tripod, it is the most risky time. CG's occur most frequently from the area
between developing cloud and the rain.
Be there but be safe
--
Michael Fewings
Strike One Lightning Photos
http://strikeone.com.au
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Ok...my parents bought me a tripod for my birthday (thanks for the email
> Narelle lol) and dad mentioned to becareful with it because it is
> metal. Anyway, I was wondering (excuse me if this sounds really stupid)
> if I were to wrap the exposed metal parts with a thick plastic, or some
> other non-conductor, would that reduce the possibility of lightning
> being attracted to the tripod? Or would the tripod still readily
> release 'streamers' if there was a large negative charge overhead...
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone who can help,
>
> Anthony Cornelius
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From: vortex at wwdg.com
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 20:50:27 -0700
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: What's wrong with the radar?
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Hey all.
Just looking at the radar for 1:10pm in broad scale and there is a massive
circle erupting from Mt. Gambier and continues to expand out over Western Vic
for the next half hour or so. Is the Bureau testing something?
Paul Yole
2 McDonald Street
Murtoa. Vic. 3390
Australia
Phone: (035) 385 2699
Mobile: 0419 367 920
Email: vortex at wwdg.com
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 11:12:53 +0800
From: Greg Spencer [hawk at aisnet.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
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hey Anthony
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to Anthony
Happy Birthday too you
have a great birthday mate (although I was told it was Yesterday :-)
"truffles at xenon.net" wrote:
> .. GUESS which ausie-weather Brisbanite is having a birfday party right now!!!!!!!!
> (hey ...and he didn't invite any of us!!!!)
>
> MANY many happy returns mate!
> rals
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:24:09 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
Organization: Telstra Strategy & Research
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vortex at wwdg.com wrote:
>
> Hey all.
>
> Just looking at the radar for 1:10pm in broad scale and there is a
> massive circle erupting from Mt. Gambier and continues to expand out
> over Western Vic for the next half hour or so. Is the Bureau testing
> something?
Yeh, it must Be Independance Day:-)
Seriously, everyone's testing Y2K at the moment, including the BoM.
Remember though that the internet radar images, particularly the large
ones, are composite images, so there is a risk of part of the image
missing from time to time due to the absence of radar for some period
of time in a particular area. Maybe also a new radar being tested?
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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From: "Daniel Weatherhead" [dpw14 at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: HAPPY 17TH BIRTHDAY ANTHONY !!!!!!!!!!!1
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:59:18 PST
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Happy Birthday Anthony
Hope you had a great day-(yesterday).
Nearing middle age.
Daniel Weatherhead
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Severe Taree & Surrounding Areas Storm Last Night.
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:14:03 +1100
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Thanks Paul, you lucky thing, hey we are still waiting for those Yamba pics
!!!!
The Illawarra Storm hole worked its charm yet again, during the night
several large cells developed about 150-200km to the SE over the ocean, but
stars here.
Michael
>I got some great pics of massive lowered shelf cloud very ominus looking.
>Power was still out to most places some 10 hours after the storms. CG
>lightning went off! I witnessed a tree blown apart by 1 strike and nearly
>got hit by a 2nd strike (i could feel the hairs rising on my arms so i got
>outa there quick.)
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: URGENT!! - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:10:04 +1100
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But the whole point is people pass it on in good faith, better to a mailing
list where it can quickly be dealt with and exposed as a fraud, rather than
squirreling to your E Mail contacts who never get to know its a fraud and
post it on to their mates.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
>This is an interesting point actually.
>
>I was wondering if it might be wise to enforce a policy of "no chain mails"
>for this mailling list - unless of course a particular incident has been
>verified and it is deemed necessary to alert others on the list. (The only
>case I can think of is if someone passed an executable as an attachment to
>the group and it was later found that this file contained a
>virus/worm/trojan - then it would probably be wise to let everyone else
>know about it.)
>
>Just a thought...
>
>Chris.
>
>BTW - Canberra was dry yet again, even though we've been promised rain each
>night this week (gotta leave that sunroof open!) but SE of Canberra there
>was a huge line of incredibly active cells. Sat up on Mt Pleasant and
>watched the non-stop flouro-light flickering display, with a huge orange
>moon rising to the left. What a way to end a day!
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From: "truffles at xenon.net" [truffles at xenon.net]
To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: cells out to sea today ..
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:25:00 +-1000
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Did anyone else notice the nice hooog SC firing, way west & out to sea
from Canberra, mid afternoon today; it was colouring red? .... and the
GINORMOUS mother even further west, to it's NE??
rals
Brissie
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From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Svr Storm Advices NSW
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 16:33:32 +1000
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Hi all...just in case nobody knew about it...there are SS Advices for most
of North NSW.
>From Brisbane, I've been watching CB development much of the day to the
south, over N NSW. Right now there's a pretty good one directly south,
probably over 200km away. However if the early dev't tells us anything,
it'll weaken fairly soon. But, you never know.
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1612 on Friday the 5th of March 1999
This advice affects people in the following weather districts:North West
Plains
North West Slopes north of Tamworth.
Another Severe Thunderstorm Advice is still valid for the Northern Rivers
and parts of the Northern Tablelands.
Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon and
evening.Some of these are expected to be severe, bringing large hailstones,
destructive winds and very heavy rainfall.
------------------------------------------------------
James Chambers
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Protection
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:15:52 +1100
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I think the car you would be standing beside would be a better attraction, I
would not get too paranoid, if the hair starts standing on end, go for the
car interior ASAP.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
>Hi all,
>
>Ok...my parents bought me a tripod for my birthday (thanks for the email
>Narelle lol) and dad mentioned to becareful with it because it is
>metal. Anyway, I was wondering (excuse me if this sounds really stupid)
>if I were to wrap the exposed metal parts with a thick plastic, or some
>other non-conductor, would that reduce the possibility of lightning
>being attracted to the tripod? Or would the tripod still readily
>release 'streamers' if there was a large negative charge overhead...
>
>Thanks in advance to anyone who can help,
>
>Anthony Cornelius
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027
From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 17:21:39 +1100
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To the western half of Canobolas the visibility is only limited by the air
clarity that day, you can also see ranges east of Bathurst, and ranges
around Hill End to the NE, indeed on a good day you could probably see
storms that are 200-300km away.
Michael
-----Original Message-----
>Mt Conabolas is over 1500m. I recall verbal reports from the Telstra
>(Telecom) techs who worked there back in the late 1980's of some very
>wild weather including snow and ice that brought down radio wave-guides,
>chipping built-up ice from microwave dishes, lightning strikes
>extraordinare that lit up the equipment room like a Christmas tree etc.
>Best thing to do if you want stories is to pay a visit and ask. They
>might even put you onto some retirees who'd be glad to descibe their
>experiences. My guess is that this hill, being so exposed, is in an
>excellent position from which to view storms and experience them
>first-hand:-)
>
>Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 17:51:00 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: severe storm Ballina
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Just had a call from my father in Ballina - a large severe storm is just
hitting there. He's takena roll of film while its been approaching, so it
much be spectacular! Advice is very strong winds and hail, so we'll see..
care to update us, John Graham?
Michael
*==========================================================*
Michael Bath Oakhurst, Sydney mbath at ozemail.com.au
Australian Severe Weather
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
*==========================================================*
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: RE: URGENT!! - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:33:48 +1100
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I'm aware that this might or might not be a current fraud - but when your
MD gets it directly from a managing partner of one of the biggest law firms
in Melbourne who has received a $150,000 mobile phone bill, and also hands
you something regarding it from police services which was emailed directly
to him, I tend to give it just a shred more credibility than the usual "pass
this on to everyone you know...." messages.
Jane
Bayswater
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael
>Thompson
>Sent: Friday, 5 March 1999 5:10
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: URGENT!! - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
>
>
>But the whole point is people pass it on in good faith, better to a mailing
>list where it can quickly be dealt with and exposed as a fraud, rather than
>squirreling to your E Mail contacts who never get to know its a fraud and
>post it on to their mates.
>
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Sunday Afternoon - Sydney & Illawarra
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 19:19:33 +1100
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Over Sydney - Illawarra on Sunday arvo the LI's are better then -6 around
2pm, it is looking really good, could be the swan song for the year, so I
hope that it fires.
The 200mb level winds will be firing early, but by Monday will have crapped
out, so I hope the storms get an early afternoon start.
Michael Thompson
http://thunder.simplenet.com
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: re: aus-wx: severe storm Ballina
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 20:10:17 +1100
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Howdy Michael,
Severe storm here????? Ilike to see that!!!!!!! A storm came up from the
S/W, but as usual, it dissapated into useless crud.
I don't know if Casino copped anything, but we got nothing here....I didn't
hear any thunder at all..no rain, nothing.....typical politician weather
again (promises you everything, but gives you nothing.....)
See Ya's
John
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: Melb storm chasers
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 20:54:29 +1100
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I'm really just practising my ftp, but if you want to have a look at who
some of us are - please go here (just don't complain about how long the
images take to load - I'll speed it up over the next couple of days)
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/Melb%20storm%20chasers.htm
Jane
Bayswater
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From: "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com]
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunday Afternoon - Sydney & Illawarra
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 02:55:09 PST
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HOLY ##**&# Michael!!
Thanks for pointing out the LI's for Sunday. For once
even the ACT seems to be better than -6 during Sunday
afternoon. I can't recall seeing such a large area of
SE Aust predicted to have an LI of better than -6
since this list got going. I notice that there is
even an area of -8 in the Blue Mtns on the Sunday
06z chart.
And its on a Sunday as well!!
Better make sure I've got plenty of film... happy hunting
to all who will be out there on Sunday!!
Patrick
>Over Sydney - Illawarra on Sunday arvo the LI's are better then -6
around
>2pm, it is looking really good, could be the swan song for the year, so
I
>hope that it fires.
>
>The 200mb level winds will be firing early, but by Monday will have
crapped
>out, so I hope the storms get an early afternoon start.
>
>Michael Thompson
>http://thunder.simplenet.com
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 22:13:35 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: sydney weather
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Don,
Jimmy here. That cell which gave you the light hail and heavy rain came
through Bidwill and Oakhurst around 2:30pm. Scofields had a few drops in
the rain gauage which I wondered was it the rain or dew Friday morning.
BTW, I have a photograph of this storm as it punched another cell over your
area Don from Rooty Hill.
I came to Rooty Hill to meet the other chasers but had some idea where they
were and was correct - Richmond. As the activity was moving away, I decided
on my initial plans of going to the 50th Birthday Party.
Jimmy Deguara
At 16:08 4/03/99 +1100, you wrote:
>First "thundery shower" we have had for ages.
>At Frenchs Forest at 3.30, 1.8 mm in 1-2 min with very tiny hail (your
>favourite, Jimmy) but no thunder.
>Radar at 3.50 show cell just to NW of Brooklyn on the Hawkesbury with a
>> 100 mm/hr centre.
>All moving due west- east.
>don White
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 22:16:42 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at dynamite.com.au]
Subject: RE: URGENT!! - RE: aus-wx: Mobile phone fraud
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Fair 'nuff :)
I guess I'm in a slightly unusual situation in that becuase of my work I
get hundreds of emails daily, and my fair share of virus warning hoaxes
each week - many of them from mailling lists (formal and informal). I
personally don't care about them - I just ditch them - but it's depressing
seeing them passed around endlessly (although watching the slight evolution
of them _is_ kinda fascinating)
So - who forgot to put in the order for storms for Canberra this week??
Patrick - I though it was _your_ turn.
Have a grerat weekand all.
Chris.
At 18:33 5/03/99 +1100, you wrote:
>I'm aware that this might or might not be a current fraud - but when your
>MD gets it directly from a managing partner of one of the biggest law firms
>in Melbourne who has received a $150,000 mobile phone bill, and also hands
>you something regarding it from police services which was emailed directly
>to him, I tend to give it just a shred more credibility than the usual "pass
>this on to everyone you know...." messages.
>
>Jane
>Bayswater
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036
From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: aus-wx: "he List"update
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:26:23 +1100
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It's time for an update to "The List".......
To those newer members of the aussie-weather list, if you haven't already
done so, you might like to introduce yourself by sending an email to
aussie-weather with the following details as well as a short resume and your
particular area of interest.
It would be useful if other members could know some or all of the following:
Name, Suburb / Town , State, ICQ No (if you have one), Home Phone no,
Mobile, Nick, email address, homepage URL.
We maintain a register of members on the aussie-weather list called "The
List", which came into being for those of us with memories like sieves
(who can't remember who is who in the chat room) and those of us who go out
in the field(so that contact can be maintained by phone and information
swapped). Up to date, "The List" has some details for 80 of our 97 members!!
The URL for "The List" is not linked to any of the public pages on the site,
so it is only available to subscribers of the aussie-weather mailing list.
http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/location.htm
BTW, if anyone would like to include the name & phone no. of a contact
person for themselves, please email me at cadence at rubix.net.au. These
details will be forwarded only to your state rep.
Jane ONeill
Bayswater, Melbourne
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 22:33:06 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: Storms well off NSW coast
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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Jimmy Deguara
I am quite interested in the storm cells several hundreds of kilometres off
the caost of NSW. They are well alligned and would have been good to chase
in a boat.
Jimmy Deguara
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
Jimmy Deguara
Vice President ASWA
from Schofields, Sydney
e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
homepage with Michael Bath
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
To: "Aussie Weather" [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:46:47 +1100
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Sorry, my sense of humour just got to me with this site on the BoM server
gopher://gilgamesh.ho.bom.gov.au/I9/Australian%20Climate%20Data/wetprob%09%0
9%2B
Jane
Bayswater
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Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 23:00:12 +1100
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
From: Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storms well off NSW coast
Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You can have alook at the satpics at the following link...
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/990305/03050632.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/990305/03050732.jpg
http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/temp/990305/03050832.jpg
At 22:33 5/03/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>I am quite interested in the storm cells several hundreds of kilometres off
>the caost of NSW. They are well alligned and would have been good to chase
>in a boat.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:51:44 +0930
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Snow (frost?) story
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>One other occasion
>in mid-winter, the drive was "normal" through freezing fog then in
>the last 20km before Cooma, a SE wind moved in but it didn't remove
>the frozen pools of cold air in the valleys. Drizzle began to fall
>on the tops of the hills that froze solid in the valleys. The road
>was like a skating rink in these places and very dangerous. It took
>me an hour to cover that 20km. By the time we arrived in Cooma, most
>of the freezing valleys had warmed up. I think this event was July,
>1982 - a very poor snow year as well.
This year *was* a very dry year. I remember reading a book about the Big
Desert mallee in the Western district of Victoria and how it recorded some
phenomenal frosts in that year. I believe the overnight temperatures in
the cold spell at the end of June fell to something like -12 degs in the
interdune corridors, resulting in major frost damage to native vegetation
that would normally be expected to cope with winter frosts. Even the
centre of Adelaide got below 0 that week.....
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
paisley at cobweb.com.au
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 04:48:44 -0800 (PST)
From: David Croan [bustchase at yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Further Info re: severe storms
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> And david C - Its ok for the BOM to say "south of Kempsey" but thats
a vast
> area that contains many differing valleys & hills. A storm hitting
Kempsey
> will not even go near here.
Paul - I do NOT dispute what you are saying - but the fact is that the
BoM dont offer a warning service for yours, and other regional areas
as yet. Of course, until they do, there can be no such specific
warnings given.
I was simply pointing out that an advice was issued in line with the
current product available for that forecast district.
David
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