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001 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Wind
002 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] Wind
003 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
004 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] Sydney Fog
005 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au Sydney Fog
006 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
007 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Sydney Fog"
008 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
009 Daniel Weatherhead [dpw14 at hotmail.com] Blue Montains Fog
010 Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au] TC Vance report
011 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] TC Vance report
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] TC Vance report
013 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Great Shot of NSW Low
014 wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) Sydney Fog"
015 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Sydney Fog"
016 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Great Shot of NSW Low
017 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Great Shot of NSW Low
018 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au] Photo Comp Update
019 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Great Shot of NSW Low
020 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Great Shot of NSW Low
021 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Great Shot of NSW Low
022 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Sydney Fog
023 Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org] Lightning Tracker...
024 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com. Great Shot of NSW Low
025 Matt Smith[disarm at braenet.com.au] storm
026 Susan Puddifer [susanpud at sydney.healey.com.au Re: Sydney storms
027 Andrew Wall [astroman at chariot.net.au] Photo Comp Update
028 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Sydney's wet
029 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] TC Vance report
030 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au] TC Vance report / Sydney weather
031 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Re: Sydney Weather
032 Jimmy Deguara [jimmyd at ozemail.com.au] Re: Sydney Weather and Schofields
033 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au] TC Vance report / Sydney weather
034 "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au] Ballina Rainfall
035 "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au] Possible visit to Melbourne during August
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001
From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Wind
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:42:08 +1000
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If we thought we had some pretty rough winds, try around 1,800 km/h at the
equator on Saturn!
(Source: http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/space/cassini/ringed.planet/)
Cheers!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:59:02 +1000
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Oops.. I altered this email to produce the one which came before it! Not sure
how it got through... I apologise.
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
martyp at dynamite.com.au
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From: Marty
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Date: Thursday, 1 July 1999 0:53
Subject: aus-wx: Wind
f we thought we had some pretty rough winds, try around 1,800 km/h at the
equator on Saturn!
(Source: http://cnn.com/SPECIALS/space/cassini/ringed.planet/)
Cheers!
Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:15:48 +1000
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And for Mt. Crosby (approx 30k's west of Anthony's location):
January 141.5 (av. 165) [72.5]
February 333.0 (av. 164) [0.0]
March 78.5 (av. 145) [40.0]
April 28.0 (av. 86) [11.5]
May 80.5 (av. 71) [6.0]
June 114.5 (av. 68) [0.0]
Total for 6 months: 776.0mm (av. 699mm), but some substantial differences
for just 30ks! Figures in brackets are Brisbane means for 140 yrs to 1990
as according to my Ozzie Weather Book. Figures in square brackets is my
rainfall component derived from thunderstorm activity.
John.
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From: James Chambers [SMTP:jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 1999 16:01
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
>Got the rainfall figures for Ballina (N.NSW - annual ave 1780mm)
>
>January 164
>February 503
>March 395
>April 231
>May 235
>June 396
> ----
> 1924
>
>We received 382mm at Wollongbar for June. ---> Looks like more to come
for
the start of July.
Hi all
Its been a wet year so far for my place in southern Brisbane. I have to
say
the rainfall over the Qld Sunshine Coast this year would be so much more
than Brisbane and Ballina.
My obs (southern Brisbane)
January: 122.6
February: 238.0
March 118.6
April 55.5
May 86.5
June 194.5
Total for the first 6 months of the last year of 1999: 815.7mm. Of course
its nowhere near a record, but its way above average.
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From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney Fog
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:43:33 +1000
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Just to add to this. My ex-father in law lived in Katoomba for many years
and still has a house near the Three Sisters. He recalls many occasions
when the fog at Katoomba in early morning was so thick that visibility was
down to less than 3 meters. On one occasion he swears he could not see his
feet and only just make out his hand when held out in front of him. Have
any of our Blue Mountains folk experienced this?
Many parts of NW Sydney are also well elevated, Hornsby is around 160m I
think, so very low cloud will frequently cause fog over that area. On
nights when sinking is occurring, one tends to have clear air at Hornsby
and drive down into the fog at around Chatswood.
John.
p.s. Raining again Brisbane after an interlude this morning.
>snip
However, I do understand that during the night, some of the fogs are
incredibly thick and often it occurs as you approach the Schofields to
Richmond area.
I do recall speaking to Robert Hyde a few years back and he studies the
flow of wind and has done studies of the flow of wind within Sydney. He
suggested that typically the air will circulate in the basin during the
night and sink in the northwestern areas of Sydney. Quite interesting and
it probably explains the lower temperatures and the amount of fogs
experienced in this region.
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Morning all.
Dark, dreary and raining here - quite steadily now for a few hours.
Looks like footy will be cancelled again this weekend.....grrr
Feels like an ECL is developing but Im hoping.......its that calm before the
storm. One thing I found interesting for the last 3 nights is the wind
increasing on sunset and becoming quite strong in the early hours of the
morning.
Currently 10mm rain at Mitchells Island
Dont know Port's figure.
Paul at Port Macquarie.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:17:43 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi John and all,
Another 59.1mm overnight here, I'm guessing all the creeks will have
flooded again (simply because everything is saturated).
Rain started with a bang last night, at around 1am, it suddenly became
windy, 10-15kn. This steadily increased to 20-25kn, and then suddenly,
the rain came pouring down, with winds sustained at 30kn, gusting to
40kn!!!! Whenever we get gales, I always watch the large tree in my
neighbours yard swaying madly like anything, but it never falls down!
My guess is that it's extremely flexible...
The 'torrential rain' didn't last long, it soon went back to
light-moderate, but about 5mins after that, it came pouring down again.
The gutters overflowed in 7mins.
Due to my wanting to have the window open to feel the wind, I then had
to sleep in a wet bed, because the rain had come in :(
So far, we've nearly had our average for July - the July average is
62mm.
This rainfall, while not seem like much, is all very significant
considering winter is meant to be some what of a "dry season" for us.
Anthony from an even soggier Brisbane
John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> And for Mt. Crosby (approx 30k's west of Anthony's location):
>
> January 141.5 (av. 165) [72.5]
> February 333.0 (av. 164) [0.0]
> March 78.5 (av. 145) [40.0]
> April 28.0 (av. 86) [11.5]
> May 80.5 (av. 71) [6.0]
> June 114.5 (av. 68) [0.0]
>
> Total for 6 months: 776.0mm (av. 699mm), but some substantial differences
> for just 30ks! Figures in brackets are Brisbane means for 140 yrs to 1990
> as according to my Ozzie Weather Book. Figures in square brackets is my
> rainfall component derived from thunderstorm activity.
>
> John.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Chambers [SMTP:jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 1999 16:01
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
>
> >Got the rainfall figures for Ballina (N.NSW - annual ave 1780mm)
> >
> >January 164
> >February 503
> >March 395
> >April 231
> >May 235
> >June 396
> > ----
> > 1924
> >
> >We received 382mm at Wollongbar for June. ---> Looks like more to come
> for
> the start of July.
>
> Hi all
>
> Its been a wet year so far for my place in southern Brisbane. I have to
> say
> the rainfall over the Qld Sunshine Coast this year would be so much more
> than Brisbane and Ballina.
>
> My obs (southern Brisbane)
> January: 122.6
> February: 238.0
> March 118.6
> April 55.5
> May 86.5
> June 194.5
>
> Total for the first 6 months of the last year of 1999: 815.7mm. Of course
> its nowhere near a record, but its way above average.
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:07:49 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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John Woodbridge wrote:
>
> Just to add to this. My ex-father in law lived in Katoomba for
> many years and still has a house near the Three Sisters. He
> recalls many occasions when the fog at Katoomba in early morning
> was so thick that visibility was down to less than 3 meters. On
> one occasion he swears he could not see his feet and only just
> make out his hand when held out in front of him. Have
> any of our Blue Mountains folk experienced this?
My parents also have a home near the Three Sisters and Echo Pt.
They might know your ex-father-in-law. It's a small world:-)
I lived there between 1975 and 1978 with visits at some
weekends and university holidays after that. From 1974 we had
another home in Katoomba closer to the Skyway & Caravan Park
that was less "foggy".
As for fog in the area mentioned, from personal experience,
it often thickens considerably toward the escarpment during
E TO SE winds. The "fog" is a combination of both the main
cloud base level being below the altitude of the escarpment
and real fog being blown up the escarpment from the valley
below. Go for a walk one day in the area and you'll see what
I mean. Visability can be very bad as you mentioned though
I have never seen it bad enough not to be able to see one's
feet in the day. Night is another matter with scattering of
artificial light by the "fog" making visability seem much
worse to the person shining the light or driving. During the
day the worse I have seen it was zero detail visible beyond
5m. In that case, I could not make out any detail of the
trees at a known distance from my parent's front door.
A warm, saturated January day I recall, with the temperature
around 17C in Katoomba and 22C in Sydney. Winter "fogs" (with
temperature 2C to 6C) never seem to be as dense as those
during the summer. This has something to do with the greater
amount of water present at ~100% humidity in the atmosphere
during warmer conditions.
If there is a point to all this, it is that there are many
"fogs" defined being;
1) Advection fog - a moist, stable air mass is blown over a
cold surface (water, ice), thereby becoming saturated.
2) Radiation fog - a surface radiates energy, thereby cooling
to the point of saturation.
3) Hill fog - is simply low cloud covering the hill tops.
I would argue that this is not a true "fog".
4) Upslope fog - is formed as moist air is driven up a
slope. This often precedes 3) above.
5) Artic / Antartic sea smoke - a rare fog formed when cold
air passes over a warm surface. It is the same effect as
opening the freezer door during a humid day (I think).
So Katoomba's Three Sister's example is an combination of
"hill fog" (low cloud) and "upslope fog", both of which
I would argue are "cloud".
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:42:28 +1000
From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]
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Hey Ben from Brisbane here..
39mm in the gauge to 9am this morning, with 99% of that falling from
around 12pm last night.. a further 30mm this morning in 2 and a half
hours from a nice little rain storm.. no thunder, but storm intensity
rain and winds with gales at one stage, and still windy here at the
moment (11:30am) with winds 15-20 knots gusting to 25 knots..
It certainly is soggy around Brisbane at the moment.. although the rain
i just had in the past couple of hours was fairly heavy, the creeks
around my house are banking it and flowing very very fast at the
moment.. any rain that falls is simply running straight off because it's
so wet.. It looks like we may have a few days of mainly fine weather
ahead though (we need it), although most models are forecasting some
upper level instability over the weekend.. BOM have backed right off the
upper level action they over the weekend for us at the beginning of the
week.. it will be interesting to see what happens..
Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> Hi John and all,
>
> Another 59.1mm overnight here, I'm guessing all the creeks will have
> flooded again (simply because everything is saturated).
>
> Rain started with a bang last night, at around 1am, it suddenly became
> windy, 10-15kn. This steadily increased to 20-25kn, and then suddenly,
> the rain came pouring down, with winds sustained at 30kn, gusting to
> 40kn!!!! Whenever we get gales, I always watch the large tree in my
> neighbours yard swaying madly like anything, but it never falls down!
> My guess is that it's extremely flexible...
>
> The 'torrential rain' didn't last long, it soon went back to
> light-moderate, but about 5mins after that, it came pouring down again.
> The gutters overflowed in 7mins.
>
> Due to my wanting to have the window open to feel the wind, I then had
> to sleep in a wet bed, because the rain had come in :(
>
> So far, we've nearly had our average for July - the July average is
> 62mm.
>
> This rainfall, while not seem like much, is all very significant
> considering winter is meant to be some what of a "dry season" for us.
>
> Anthony from an even soggier Brisbane
>
> John Woodbridge wrote:
> >
> > And for Mt. Crosby (approx 30k's west of Anthony's location):
> >
> > January 141.5 (av. 165) [72.5]
> > February 333.0 (av. 164) [0.0]
> > March 78.5 (av. 145) [40.0]
> > April 28.0 (av. 86) [11.5]
> > May 80.5 (av. 71) [6.0]
> > June 114.5 (av. 68) [0.0]
> >
> > Total for 6 months: 776.0mm (av. 699mm), but some substantial differences
> > for just 30ks! Figures in brackets are Brisbane means for 140 yrs to 1990
> > as according to my Ozzie Weather Book. Figures in square brackets is my
> > rainfall component derived from thunderstorm activity.
> >
> > John.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Chambers [SMTP:jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 30 June 1999 16:01
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall and Brisbane rain
> >
> > >Got the rainfall figures for Ballina (N.NSW - annual ave 1780mm)
> > >
> > >January 164
> > >February 503
> > >March 395
> > >April 231
> > >May 235
> > >June 396
> > > ----
> > > 1924
> > >
> > >We received 382mm at Wollongbar for June. ---> Looks like more to come
> > for
> > the start of July.
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> > Its been a wet year so far for my place in southern Brisbane. I have to
> > say
> > the rainfall over the Qld Sunshine Coast this year would be so much more
> > than Brisbane and Ballina.
> >
> > My obs (southern Brisbane)
> > January: 122.6
> > February: 238.0
> > March 118.6
> > April 55.5
> > May 86.5
> > June 194.5
> >
> > Total for the first 6 months of the last year of 1999: 815.7mm. Of course
> > its nowhere near a record, but its way above average.
> >
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Subject: aus-wx: Blue Montains Fog
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Hey Everyone,
Well I am not going to into as much detail at Michael, but yesterdays fog
didn't penetrate the lower Blue Mountains.
On a 'normal' fog day when I journey down the great western highway I decend
into the fog at a place called Lapstone Hill, which is where the road starts
to climb up into the mountains.
Yesterday the fog came up the valleys and up to Mount Riverview, which the
first ridge you see when you look at the Mountains.
As for now it is foggy, cold and wet.
:)
Daniel Weatherhead
weatherhead at ozemail.com.au
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From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: TC Vance report
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Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of you saw on
TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
cheers, Michael
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:29:20 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
have I read so much crap!
"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
I've had my rant of the day...
Anthony Cornelius
Michael Bath wrote:
>
> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of you saw on
> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
>
> cheers, Michael
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Vance report
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:37:50 +1000 (EST)
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>
> It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
> judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
> immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
> have I read so much crap!
>
Why do I get the impression that the next time we'll be reading
about this guy is in the Darwin Awards?
Blair Trewin
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Great Shot of NSW Low
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:50:02 +1000
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The 1430-1500 Sydney radar loops show the low in NSW perfectly in the
precipitation movement, it's quite spectacular!! It's probably worth going
up to have a look at the middle (looks like a good storm) at but I have to
study. For those who missed it I whacked it up at
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~amiskelly/rot1.gif
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: Katoomba Fog - was "Re:aus-wx: Sydney Fog"
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:47:19 GMT
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On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:07:49 +1000, Michael Scollay
wrote:
>If there is a point to all this, it is that there are many
>"fogs" defined being;
>
>1) Advection fog - a moist, stable air mass is blown over a
>cold surface (water, ice), thereby becoming saturated.
>2) Radiation fog - a surface radiates energy, thereby cooling
>to the point of saturation.
>3) Hill fog - is simply low cloud covering the hill tops.
>I would argue that this is not a true "fog".
>4) Upslope fog - is formed as moist air is driven up a
>slope. This often precedes 3) above.
>5) Artic / Antartic sea smoke - a rare fog formed when cold
>air passes over a warm surface. It is the same effect as
>opening the freezer door during a humid day (I think).
>
>So Katoomba's Three Sister's example is an combination of
>"hill fog" (low cloud) and "upslope fog", both of which
>I would argue are "cloud".
>
To which you can add --- I don't quite know what to call it ---
transpiration fog? On moist cool days in the mountains it is common to
see shreds/wisps/banners of what could be taken for steam rising from
parts of the vegetation, particularly dense rainforest areas. I've
always assumed this is caused by the air under the rainforest canopy
becoming saturated, then drifting into cooler air above the canopy and
condensing. My guess is that you could add this as a third mechanism
at work giving Echo Point its megafogs.
At Blackheath, I live in Hat Hill Road which is on a long ridge poking
northeast into the Grose Valley. Our densest fogs are summer and early
autumn ones, when moist air rolls up the Grose on an E to NE wind.
Possibly the thickest are those that arrive with a dying seabreeze
front. After an otherwise warm and sunny day, the fog can roll in on
the front usually around sunset, and within half a minute visibility
can go from 50km to 20m. Because the seabreeze air is seldom much
deeper than the height of the Blue Mountains ridge at this point
(about 1000/1100m), the fog is seldom deeper than a few hundred metres
as it rolls across the ridge, and can often then be seen rolling off
the western cliffs into the Kanimbla Valley and dissipating into the
drier, warmer air -- much as Michael described the Sydney fog rolling
over the Illawarra escarpment yesterday, and rather like dry-ice fog
falling out of a sink.
The thickest fogs I've seen would get a visibility rating of 15
metres, given a definition of visibility as the greatest distance at
which substantial items (trees, poles, cars) can be identified in
daylight.
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Laurier Williams
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: Katoomba Fog - was "Re:aus-wx: Sydney Fog"
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>
> On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:07:49 +1000, Michael Scollay
> wrote:
>
> >If there is a point to all this, it is that there are many
> >"fogs" defined being;
> >
> >1) Advection fog - a moist, stable air mass is blown over a
> >cold surface (water, ice), thereby becoming saturated.
> >2) Radiation fog - a surface radiates energy, thereby cooling
> >to the point of saturation.
> >3) Hill fog - is simply low cloud covering the hill tops.
> >I would argue that this is not a true "fog".
> >4) Upslope fog - is formed as moist air is driven up a
> >slope. This often precedes 3) above.
> >5) Artic / Antartic sea smoke - a rare fog formed when cold
> >air passes over a warm surface. It is the same effect as
> >opening the freezer door during a humid day (I think).
> >
> >So Katoomba's Three Sister's example is an combination of
> >"hill fog" (low cloud) and "upslope fog", both of which
> >I would argue are "cloud".
Unlike radiation fog, which (in Australia) almost always clears by
early afternoon, hill and upslope fog can last for extended periods
of time. One particularly notable episode I recall was in December
1991, when hill fog developed in the NSW Southerh Highlands around
Bowral on the evening of the 27th and persisted almost continuously
until the 31st.
Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 15:30:27 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Andrew Miskelly wrote:
>
> The 1430-1500 Sydney radar loops show the low in NSW perfectly
> in the precipitation movement, it's quite spectacular!!...
And it's getting better as time goes on. Watch out 'gong and
Camden area there's some action heading your way!
I animated the leading 40 or so images before the latest and
it was like the north wave being turned almost right back on
itself by the approaching cold front with some action in
the middle. I'd be watching for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning
within the next hour or so as there's stacks of moisture about
with some decent wind shear.
At 0510UTC there's a beaut cell ENE og 'gong at < 10km with
40-100 intensity and a great bow shape, maybe a hook echo.
Massive complex of cells developing SW of Camden/Appin at
10-15km with a patch of 40-100mm but mostly 10-40mm over
an area perhaps 30km by 40km.
This is looking great! and dangerous!:-(
Cheers,
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Great Shot of NSW Low
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 15:40:33 +1000
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Great to hear all that! Despite my study (!!??) I have indeed been on the
lookout for warnings. The cells haven't been moving far (obvoiosly with the
low) and it's hard to track them. There's one tantallisingly close to the
coast just off us which seems to be moving very slowly WNW - maybe it'll
get Thirroull if it hits the coast...
...Andrew.
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Illawarra/Southern Tablelands
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> From: Michael Scollay
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Great Shot of NSW Low
> Date: Thursday, 1 July 1999 15:30
>
> Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> >
> > The 1430-1500 Sydney radar loops show the low in NSW perfectly
> > in the precipitation movement, it's quite spectacular!!...
>
> And it's getting better as time goes on. Watch out 'gong and
> Camden area there's some action heading your way!
>
> I animated the leading 40 or so images before the latest and
> it was like the north wave being turned almost right back on
> itself by the approaching cold front with some action in
> the middle. I'd be watching for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning
> within the next hour or so as there's stacks of moisture about
> with some decent wind shear.
>
> At 0510UTC there's a beaut cell ENE og 'gong at < 10km with
> 40-100 intensity and a great bow shape, maybe a hook echo.
>
> Massive complex of cells developing SW of Camden/Appin at
> 10-15km with a patch of 40-100mm but mostly 10-40mm over
> an area perhaps 30km by 40km.
>
> This is looking great! and dangerous!:-(
>
> Cheers,
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 13:53:28 +0800
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
Organization: Strike One Lightning Photos
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Hi all,
The new round of photos is up and on display in the ASWA
Inc. photo competition.
Please take the time to read carefully the index/description
when the page first loads up as the way the competition is
to be run are detailed there.
the url is
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/index.htm
And the url to see last months most welcoming winners is
http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/photos.htm
Submissions are now open for the next years photo
competition.
Next months theme is "Hail, Snow and Frost on the
ground/buildings/trees/cars etc."
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:59:09 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Looks like the lwo's right over Sydney!!
On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Michael Scollay wrote:
> Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> >
> > The 1430-1500 Sydney radar loops show the low in NSW perfectly
> > in the precipitation movement, it's quite spectacular!!...
>
> And it's getting better as time goes on. Watch out 'gong and
> Camden area there's some action heading your way!
>
> I animated the leading 40 or so images before the latest and
> it was like the north wave being turned almost right back on
> itself by the approaching cold front with some action in
> the middle. I'd be watching for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning
> within the next hour or so as there's stacks of moisture about
> with some decent wind shear.
>
> At 0510UTC there's a beaut cell ENE og 'gong at < 10km with
> 40-100 intensity and a great bow shape, maybe a hook echo.
>
> Massive complex of cells developing SW of Camden/Appin at
> 10-15km with a patch of 40-100mm but mostly 10-40mm over
> an area perhaps 30km by 40km.
>
> This is looking great! and dangerous!:-(
>
> Cheers,
>
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:02:26 +1000
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There's some good thunder and lightning around here (Wollongong) at the
moment, there's also a good cell heading for the SE Suburbs of Sydney...
--
Andrew Miskelly
Illawarra/Southern Tablelands
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> From: Paul Graham
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> Date: Thursday, 1 July 1999 15:59
>
> Looks like the lwo's right over Sydney!!
>
> On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> > Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> > >
> > > The 1430-1500 Sydney radar loops show the low in NSW perfectly
> > > in the precipitation movement, it's quite spectacular!!...
> >
> > And it's getting better as time goes on. Watch out 'gong and
> > Camden area there's some action heading your way!
> >
> > I animated the leading 40 or so images before the latest and
> > it was like the north wave being turned almost right back on
> > itself by the approaching cold front with some action in
> > the middle. I'd be watching for a Severe Thunderstorm Warning
> > within the next hour or so as there's stacks of moisture about
> > with some decent wind shear.
> >
> > At 0510UTC there's a beaut cell ENE og 'gong at < 10km with
> > 40-100 intensity and a great bow shape, maybe a hook echo.
> >
> > Massive complex of cells developing SW of Camden/Appin at
> > 10-15km with a patch of 40-100mm but mostly 10-40mm over
> > an area perhaps 30km by 40km.
> >
> > This is looking great! and dangerous!:-(
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > ,-_|\ Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
> > / \ Telstra Technology 7/255 Elizabeth St. Sydney NSW 2000
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> > v Sydney NSW Australia +61 2 9298 5891P +61 2 9298 5820F
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 16:50:44 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Status at 06:20 UTC
Cell complex #1 - 10km E of Waterfall moving NNE/NE at +30kph
with patches of 40-100mm intensity.
Cell complex #2 - 2 main cell complexes; 2km WSW of Camden
moving ESE at 15kph and 25km WSW of Appin moving N at 10kph.
At 06:30 UTC, #1 is continuing NNE at +30kph and #2 is
developing more cells NW of Appin with propagation beginning
toward NNE moving at +15kph.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:01:09 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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G'day John,
Lindsay from the Upper Blue Mountains here. Yes, heavy fogs are not
uncommon up here. We get numerous fogs that have very low visibility.
Its not uncommon to get, visibility to say, ten or twenty feet on a
heavy day. I can recall lots of days driving in fog on the highway and
you could barely see anything at all. Basically, fogs are common.
Steady rain here on Thursday at 11:20am. Temp is five degrees, or
thereabouts. Hope this front drops the temp just a bit more. We had a
real balmy night last night, got down only to six or so.
Lindsay P.
>
> Just to add to this. My ex-father in law lived in Katoomba for many years
> and still has a house near the Three Sisters. He recalls many occasions
> when the fog at Katoomba in early morning was so thick that visibility was
> down to less than 3 meters. On one occasion he swears he could not see his
> feet and only just make out his hand when held out in front of him. Have
> any of our Blue Mountains folk experienced this?
>
> Many parts of NW Sydney are also well elevated, Hornsby is around 160m I
> think, so very low cloud will frequently cause fog over that area. On
> nights when sinking is occurring, one tends to have clear air at Hornsby
> and drive down into the fog at around Chatswood.
>
> John.
> p.s. Raining again Brisbane after an interlude this morning.
> >snip
> However, I do understand that during the night, some of the fogs are
> incredibly thick and often it occurs as you approach the Schofields to
> Richmond area.
>
> I do recall speaking to Robert Hyde a few years back and he studies the
> flow of wind and has done studies of the flow of wind within Sydney. He
> suggested that typically the air will circulate in the basin during the
> night and sink in the northwestern areas of Sydney. Quite interesting and
> it probably explains the lower temperatures and the amount of fogs
> experienced in this region.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 02:25:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Paul Graham [tornado at hobbiton.org]
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Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Tracker...
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Does anyone know if there is an online lightning tracker for Sydney?
- P.
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 17:54:00 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Michael Scollay wrote:
>
> Status at 06:20 UTC
>
> Cell complex #1 - 10km E of Waterfall moving NNE/NE at +30kph
> with patches of 40-100mm intensity.
>
> Cell complex #2 - 2 main cell complexes; 2km WSW of Camden
> moving ESE at 15kph and 25km WSW of Appin moving N at 10kph.
>
> At 06:30 UTC, #1 is continuing NNE at +30kph and #2 is
> developing more cells NW of Appin with propagation beginning
> toward NNE moving at +15kph.
#2 Seems to be broadening and loosing intensity as it crosses
the Sydney Met area, #1 has died.
Michael Scollay mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Hi everyone the odd clap of thunder and lightning around inner west sydney
now, radar looks nice as well..
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:21:34 +1000
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> Susan From Balmain
At the moment (6.30pm) we have a bit of a storm rumbling around us and very
heavy constant rain that has been falling since around 4.30pm. Rain not
showing much signs of easing - gutters aren't handling the runoff.
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Hi Mike,
Just letting you know that you have made a small typo on the spelling of my
suburb it is PARALOWIE not Paralowir :)
Thats from the Voting section for July's photo's
Thanks
cya
At 13:53 1/07/99 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>The new round of photos is up and on display in the ASWA
>Inc. photo competition.
>
>Please take the time to read carefully the index/description
>when the page first loads up as the way the competition is
>to be run are detailed there.
>
>the url is
>
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/index.htm
>
>
>And the url to see last months most welcoming winners is
>
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/photo/photos.htm
>
>Submissions are now open for the next years photo
>competition.
>
>Next months theme is "Hail, Snow and Frost on the
>ground/buildings/trees/cars etc."
>
>Regards
>--
>Michael Fewings
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>http://strikeone.com.au
>
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Rain seems to be easing off in the northwestern suburbs now with some
scud cumulus coming in from the south/southeast. 15mm of rain so far, or
half June's total for this location..
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This person asked for a link from us. I think I will decline.
Jimmy Deguara
At 14:29 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
>judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
>immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
>have I read so much crap!
>
>"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
>to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
>big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
>100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
>claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
>
>Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
>could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
>
>No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
>chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
>
>I've had my rant of the day...
>
>Anthony Cornelius
>
>Michael Bath wrote:
>>
>> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of you saw on
>> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
>> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
>>
>> cheers, Michael
>> ============================================================
>> Michael Bath Wollongbar, N.Rivers NSW mbath at ozemail.com.au
>> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:15:25 +1000
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With a URL like that & the report - I must say that I'm right there with you
Jimmy.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
>Sent: Thursday, 1 July 1999 7:44
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>
>
>This person asked for a link from us. I think I will decline.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 14:29 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
>>judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
>>immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
>>have I read so much crap!
>>
>>"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
>>to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
>>big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
>>100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
>>claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
>>
>>Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
>>could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
>>
>>No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
>>chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
>>
>>I've had my rant of the day...
>>
>>Anthony Cornelius
>>
>>Michael Bath wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of
>you saw on
>>> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
>>> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
>>>
>>> cheers, Michael
>>> ============================================================
>>> Michael Bath Wollongbar, N.Rivers NSW mbath at ozemail.com.au
>>> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
>>> http://www.lightningphotography.com/
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 20:18:08 +1000
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Jane, and everyone,
I don't know about Sydney, but it's all over here in Wollongong, pressure's
rising from about 1010 and low/rain has passed - I assume Sydney is in a
similar situation...
Andrew.
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>From: Jane ONeill
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Vance report / Sydney weather
>Date: Thursday, 1 July 1999 20:15
With a URL like that & the report - I must say that I'm right there with
you
Jimmy.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
>Sent: Thursday, 1 July 1999 7:44
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Vance report
>
>
>This person asked for a link from us. I think I will decline.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 14:29 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
>>judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
>>immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
>>have I read so much crap!
>>
>>"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
>>to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
>>big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
>>100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
>>claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
>>
>>Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
>>could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
>>
>>No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
>>chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
>>
>>I've had my rant of the day...
>>
>>Anthony Cornelius
>>
>>Michael Bath wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of
>you saw on
>>> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
>>> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
>>>
>>> cheers, Michael
>>> ============================================================
>>> Michael Bath Wollongbar, N.Rivers NSW mbath at ozemail.com.au
>>> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
>>> http://www.lightningphotography.com/
>>> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>>> ============================================================
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As was observed on radar, another section developed overhead but briefly.
This system will keep going. I doubt a low will develop near the coast of
Sydney. I think the cloud band itself has moved to far off the coast.
The ECL is still awaited and who knows may not happen???
Jimmy Deguara
At 20:18 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Jane, and everyone,
>
>I don't know about Sydney, but it's all over here in Wollongong, pressure's
>rising from about 1010 and low/rain has passed - I assume Sydney is in a
>similar situation...
>
>Andrew.
>
>--
>Andrew Miskelly
>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
>----------
>From: Jane ONeill
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: TC Vance report / Sydney weather
>Date: Thursday, 1 July 1999 20:15
>
>
>With a URL like that & the report - I must say that I'm right there with
>you
>Jimmy.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>How's Sydney going at the moment you guys? What's the barometric pressure
>doing? You've all gone awfully quiet.........
>
>Jane
>============================================================
>
>Jane ONeill Bayswater Melbourne cadence at rubix.net.au
>http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
> ============================================================
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
>>Sent: Thursday, 1 July 1999 7:44
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Vance report
>>
>>
>>This person asked for a link from us. I think I will decline.
>>
>>Jimmy Deguara
>>
>>At 14:29 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
>>>It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
>>>judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
>>>immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
>>>have I read so much crap!
>>>
>>>"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
>>>to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
>>>big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
>>>100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
>>>claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
>>>
>>>Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
>>>could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
>>>
>>>No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
>>>chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
>>>
>>>I've had my rant of the day...
>>>
>>>Anthony Cornelius
>>>
>>>Michael Bath wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of
>>you saw on
>>>> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
>>>> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
>>>>
>>>> cheers, Michael
>>>> ============================================================
>>>> Michael Bath Wollongbar, N.Rivers NSW mbath at ozemail.com.au
>>>> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
>>>> http://www.lightningphotography.com/
>>>> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>>>> ============================================================
>>>>
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>>from Schofields, Sydney
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>>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 21:09:10 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> With a URL like that & the report - I must say that I'm right there with you
> Jimmy.
This person has no respect for mother nature. Fully agreed with Jimmy
too.
As for the barometric pressure...not sure about Sydney, but we had a
drop of 15hPa in 26hrs, dropping to 1010! Certainly a very steep
pressure drop for this neck of the woods.
Anthony Cornelius
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> How's Sydney going at the moment you guys? What's the barometric pressure
> doing? You've all gone awfully quiet.........
>
> Jane
> ============================================================
>
> Jane ONeill Bayswater Melbourne cadence at rubix.net.au
> http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
>
> ============================================================
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
> >Sent: Thursday, 1 July 1999 7:44
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Vance report
> >
> >
> >This person asked for a link from us. I think I will decline.
> >
> >Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >At 14:29 1/07/99 +1000, you wrote:
> >>It won't be long before this yahoo falls into the fate of mother nature
> >>judging by his idiotic, stupid, moronic, uneducated, unintelligent,
> >>immature, simplistic, unethical and unorthodox actions. Never before
> >>have I read so much crap!
> >>
> >>"...I can tell you though, that a Ford Falcon will go through water up
> >>to the windows, and when the water gets deeper you simply chain it to a
> >>big truck and tow it through the river..." <--- Each year, globally
> >>100's of people die by driving through flooded rivers, yet this moron is
> >>claiming it is safe to do! What utter garbage!!!
> >>
> >>Not to mention him standing in winds with potentially lethal debris. I
> >>could write an essay pulling his report apart, but I won't!
> >>
> >>No wonder some people in the public have such a poor image of "storm
> >>chasers" when there are people like this guy out there!!
> >>
> >>I've had my rant of the day...
> >>
> >>Anthony Cornelius
> >>
> >>Michael Bath wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Here's another report on TC Vance, I think by that guy some of
> >you saw on
> >>> TV, filming as the storm hit Exmouth:
> >>> http://www.rambocam.com/vance.html
> >>>
> >>> cheers, Michael
> >>> ============================================================
> >>> Michael Bath Wollongbar, N.Rivers NSW mbath at ozemail.com.au
> >>> http://australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
> >>> http://www.lightningphotography.com/
> >>> http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
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> >---------
> >---------------
> >Jimmy Deguara
> >Vice President ASWA
> >from Schofields, Sydney
> >e-mail: jimmyd at ozemail.com.au
> >homepage with Michael Bath
> >
> >http://www.australiansevereweather.simplenet.com/
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> >Australian Severe Weather Association home information page
> >
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From: "John Graham" [gorzzz at one.net.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:06:56 +1000
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----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Bath [mbath at ozemail.com.au]
To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 1:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Ballina Rainfall
> Got the rainfall figures for Ballina (N.NSW - annual ave 1780mm)
>
> January 164
> February 503
> March 395
> April 231
> May 235
> June 396
> ----
> 1924
>
> We received 382mm at Wollongbar for June.
>
> regards, Michael
>
Howdy Everyone,
Had 40mm of rain so far today (21:00).....25 of that between 1am &
8:30am.........314mm for June at my place (to the nearest mm)
See Ya
John
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From: "Matthew Piper" [mjpiper at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Possible visit to Melbourne during August
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 22:19:04 +1000
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Hi Everyone,
I am thinking about travelling to Melbourne to attend the August meeting of
the Vic Branch of ASWA.
I have found a deal through Qantas which includes 2 nights accommodation and
return economy airfares. The price is $279 per person twin share.
If anyone would like to come along with me to Melbourne could they please
let me know by the end of next week. I am planning on leaving after work on
the Friday and returning Sunday afternoon or evening.
Matthew Piper
P.S. I missed out on seeing any lightning in the city when I left work at
5pm. I was looking for it but didnt see a thing. Plenty of heavy rain around
though at the time which made it hard to keep dry on the way to the station.
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