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001 Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au] Snow to 300M
002 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Melbourne Update
003 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Melbourne Update
004 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Rain in blackheath
005 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Current Taralga Wx
006 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au] Melbourne report
007 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Canberra wx
008 "Parker, Debbie L" [dlp64129 at GlaxoWellcome.co Melbourne Update
009 peter.corlett at doi.vic.gov.au Melbourne report
010 "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au] Current Taralga Wx
011 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Melbourne: very dry air
012 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com] Showers approaching
013 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au] Current Blackheath
014 Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au] Adelaide : very dry air (was:Melbourne: very dry air)
015 "Patrick Tobin" [pdtobin at hotmail.com] Canberra wx (2)
016 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au] Lightning to S/SE of Illawarra
017 Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au] Lightning to S/SE of Illawarra
018 "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au] front
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:06:28 +1000
From: Chas & Helen Osborn [hosborn at tassie.net.au]
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Hello Everyone
8mm overnight currently 6C at 7am
forecast for today
WEST COAST, SOUTH COAST, AND HIGHLANDS;
Scattered showers, with possible hail tonight and highland snowfalls
descending to about the 500 metre level and to 300 metres tonight.
Moderate to
fresh and cold west to southwesterly winds.
Chas
Strahan Tasmania
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From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Update
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:22:34 +1000
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Hi all, had 6.0mm of rain here in Kilsyth in the 24 hours to 9am, most of this came in a couple of heavy showers between 7 and 8pm last night no thunder or hail though. Overnight the temperature got down to 4.2c at the moment (11.15am) it is 9.5c, it has remained fine so far this morning but there are some showers to the south of Melbourne on the radar and a patch of cloud moving in from the SW showing up on the latest sat pic. I would say we will get some showers and possible small hail this afternoon. So far snowfalls in the Victorian high country have been light 5 to 10cms at most of the major resorts just 1cm at Donna Buang and 3cm at Baw Baw, but there should be some more snow later this afternoon as the coldest air moves in hopefully the more southern resorts Baw Baw and Lake Mountain may pick up 10 to 15cms of fresh snow by this time tomorrow morning. Long term trend, all the charts have a high moving across Victoria on Monday and moving into the Tasman Sea on Tuesday and Wednesday, mild northerly winds look set to push the temperature up towards 18 or 19c by Wednesday. Dane
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:34:42 +1000 (EST)
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> Hi all, had 6.0mm of rain here in Kilsyth in the 24 hours to 9am, most =
> of this came in a couple of heavy showers between 7 and 8pm last night =
> no thunder or hail though. Overnight the temperature got down to 4.2c at =
> the moment (11.15am) it is 9.5c, it has remained fine so far this =
> morning but there are some showers to the south of Melbourne on the =
> radar and a patch of cloud moving in from the SW showing up on the =
> latest sat pic. I would say we will get some showers and possible small =
> hail this afternoon. So far snowfalls in the Victorian high country have =
> been light 5 to 10cms at most of the major resorts just 1cm at Donna =
> Buang and 3cm at Baw Baw, but there should be some more snow later this =
> afternoon as the coldest air moves in hopefully the more southern =
> resorts Baw Baw and Lake Mountain may pick up 10 to 15cms of fresh snow =
> by this time tomorrow morning. Long term trend, all the charts have a =
> high moving across Victoria on Monday and moving into the Tasman Sea on =
> Tuesday and Wednesday, mild northerly winds look set to push the =
> temperature up towards 18 or 19c by Wednesday. Dane =20
Doesn't look like much activity at the moment, although the airmass
remains quite chilly (11.4 in Melbourne City).
There was a lightning strike in the southern CBD at 6.10 last night
(as I was going into the station), and hail was falling at Clifton
Hill at 6.20. From what I saw it looks like this was the northern
tip of the band of showers - this is borne out by the rainfall
figures (5-10mm in the southeastern suburbs, but only 1mm in the city).
With little or no rain likely now until late next week, August looks
like it will start to run well below average again (17.6mm so far).
Blair Trewin
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 07:07:24 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Had some decent rain here. Overnight to 7:15, we've had 9mm.
Still forecasting snow for tonight/tomorrow.
This rain is substantial and there is no break in the clouds, quite good
cloud cover. Maybe a portent for the coming cold air and some nice
mixing? WEll, those that know a lot more than me will have a better
idea.
Lindsay P.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:48:57 +1000
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Hi all,
A very balmy 9C here at the moment, moderate gusty W winds. This morning is
quite dissapionting really when the forecast a few days ago was for RAIN and
snow, rather that a few showers and possible snow on high ground. We'll have
to wait till tonight if that's even gonna roll in!
The forecast chart looks nice though, looking forward to later on.
Andrew.
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In spite of all this activity seen by lucky Clyve, the area through Geelong
from Moriac to Lara, and most of the Bellarine Peninsula, received almost
no rain, no strong winds (to speak of), mostly blue skies and mild
temps(16) - although it is cold today (Fri) at 10 deg.
Lindsay Smail.
At 10:00 PM 12-08-99 +1000, you wrote:
>Clyve Herbert rang and reported another Victorian train chase - and the
>first core punch of the season!!!!....
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Clyve reports that......
>
>Things looked interesting after 10am this morning after the passage of a
>fizzling cold front across central Victoria. Congesting cumulus streets
>developed by mid morning with the first low Cb in sight by 11am. After
>leaving Geelong to drive to Melbourne, I could already hear scattered
>lightning discharges on my lightning detector (am radio!). I rang Jane to
>get a fix on a Cb near Mornington which looked grunty and was told that it
>was reflecting 40-100mm/hr. Things looked really interesting with some
>serious Cbs punching to the NW of Geelong, although I suspect tops were not
>more than 20-25,000'. I noticed also that there was considerable shear
>around 20,000', and suspected some serious cold air advection in the middle
>and upper layers behind the dissapating cold front.
>
>Finally arriving in Melbourne and running my 1553 Melbourne-Cranbourne, a
>line of fast moving Cbs had already moved to the south of Port Phillip Bay
>heading eastward. Arriving at Dandenong with my train, I noticed that there
>was a continuous rather grunty line of Cbs with occasional cgs aligned
>east-west. I rang Jane again to be told that there were echoes in the
>Cranbourne area which had peaked at 100+ when the cell crossed the coast
>over easter Port Phillip Bay and were now running at 40-100. I left
>Dandenong & sped to Cranbourne passing into the Cb line on the outskirts of
>Cranbourne encountering 1cm hail, torrential rain, close cg strikes,
>lowerings and a gust front. Some of the side streets adjacent to the
>railway line were suffering flash flooding. Remarkably the precipitation
>line was barely more than 3km wide.
>
>Arriving at Cranbourne in torrential rain, hail & thunder, I then returned
>with my train to Dandenong, re-entering the rain core again for barely more
>than several minutes, in the meantime capturing a few photographs from the
>cab as I sped along. Arriving at Dandenong in dry conditions the line still
>appearing to the south, backbuilding towards Melbourne CBD. Andrew McDonald
>rang shortly before I arrived in the city to report that he was on his roof
>getting very excited by the surprise appearance of such an unseasonal
>outbreak. Approaching Melbourne, a large gust front and lowerings appeared
>to the south and west of the CBD. A cell to the west passed over the city
>at about 1800 with torrential rain & cgs.
>
>.....another successful train chase!!!
>
>Regards,
>
>Clyve Herbert
>Leopold, Victoria
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>
>Andrew McDonald & I had been discussing these same cells during the
>afternoon, and I'd also been exchanging a flurry of emails with Peter
>Corlett who was sitting in Nauru house in the city staring at nice crisp
>TCu's (cameraless), all of us being incredibly frustrated that we couldn't
>be out there amongst the action (although I did escape after work after
>climbing onto the roof to take a panorama of this 'street' stretching from
>one horizon to the other). Also got a nice pic of the gust front - first
>time in years I've actually managed to be in the right place at the right
>time to see one!! (that is ....... it will be a nice pic if there was enough
>light), and Anthony has already attested to the thunder - and my
>crackling mobile phone that made me hang up in his ear (sorry bout that...)
>
>
>
>Jane ONeill
>Bayswater, Victoria
>
>
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Hi all,
A few light showers from high based (2,000m +), low topped
Cu falling mainly about the ranges and some western Canberra
suburbs. About 4/8 cover, current temp is 11.
Snow can be seen falling from the Cu reaching to about
1,500-1,600m before melting.
I am looking forward to the next front now just SW of Vic
- the satellite animations show the air behind this has
come from a long way south.
I really hope this is not the high point of Winter 99.
Patrick
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From: "Parker, Debbie L" [dlp64129 at GlaxoWellcome.co.uk]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Melbourne Update
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 03:35:24 +0100
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Blair,
I think I saw that lightning strike in my rear-view mirror. I was driving north up one of the side streets at Swinburne Uni. in Hawthorn last night just after 6PM & there was a great flash of light behind me that reflected in all my mirrors & lit up the inside of the car. At the same time my radio started breaking up ( Triple J ) & it took about 5 minutes or so for them to stay on air & resume 'normal' transmission. I didn't hear any thunder ( maybe I had the radio up too loud......).
I saw another really nice CC to the south of Canterbury Rd while I was driving home towards the Dandenongs about 15 minutes later.
I did manage to get a couple of photos at Hawthorn before sunset & 'all' the action started ( while I was indoors, Doh!).
Started raining at Boronia at about 18:50 last night - no hail, only heavy rain on and off for about 30 minutes and I couldn't see any more lightning.
Currently in Boronia, it seems to be getting colder ............but it's sunny at the moment.
Regards
Debbie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blair Trewin [SMTP:blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
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>
> There was a lightning strike in the southern CBD at 6.10 last night
> (as I was going into the station), and hail was falling at Clifton
> Hill at 6.20. From what I saw it looks like this was the northern
> tip of the band of showers - this is borne out by the rainfall
> figures (5-10mm in the southeastern suburbs, but only 1mm in the city).
>
> With little or no rain likely now until late next week, August looks
> like it will start to run well below average again (17.6mm so far).
>
> Blair Trewin
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From: peter.corlett at doi.vic.gov.au
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Hi guys,
Last night was an exercise in frustration for me as I caught
the tram to my parents' place from work where I had been watching (with no
camera) a nice multi-cell building all afternoon. As the tram passed over the
Yarra at Kew, I noticed a very photogenic gust front to the SW and a nice
lowering where the flanking line met the active cell.
I bolted from the tram at Kew junction and raced to my parents' place only to
find that Dad had taken BOTH cameras to work with him!! I consoled myself with
just watching it from the street outside and noticed one flash of lightning. A
sudden onset of heavy rain began while we were having dinner but it tapered off
after 15-20 minutes. Soon after the rain tapered off, I noticed another bright
flash of lightning to the west.
So I've learned my lesson. Now I will take my camera with me, regardless of how
unpromising the day might be in the morning.
Cheers,
Pete.
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From: "Andrew Miskelly" [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:03:57 +1000
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Hi all,
Just now (1PM) a funny little squall of sleet and gusty SSWers went through,
hopefully a taste of much better things to come. It dropped the temp to 6
but outside of squalls it's about 8 and 4/8 cover. Nothing much happening
though yet!
Andrew.
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From: Andrew Miskelly [amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
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Date: Friday, 13 August 1999 11:48
Subject: aus-wx: Current Taralga Wx
>Hi all,
>
>A very balmy 9C here at the moment, moderate gusty W winds. This morning is
>quite dissapionting really when the forecast a few days ago was for RAIN
and
>snow, rather that a few showers and possible snow on high ground. We'll
have
>to wait till tonight if that's even gonna roll in!
>
>The forecast chart looks nice though, looking forward to later on.
>
>Andrew.
>--
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>Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW
>amiskelly at ozemail.com.au
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne: very dry air
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Dewpoints in Melbourne have now fallen below 0, which is unusual in
a winter SW airstream. The potential exists for a very cold night
tonight, especially inland.
No precipitation yet today, although there's a thin line near Geelong
on the radar.
Blair Trewin
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From: "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]
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Subject: aus-wx: Showers approaching
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:51:30 +1000
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Hi all, still fine in Melbourne, current temp in Kilsyth is 11.4c highest so far today 12.1c, some tallish Cu some with glaciated tops observed to the north about an hour ago, barometer has fallen slightly 1011 ahead of another front now entering the Sw of the state, radar is now picking up showers from this front. I would expect fairly widespread showers to move across Melbourne by 6.00pm with the chance of some hail and possible thunder. Dane. Ps my lightning detector is picking up a few distant discharges.
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:17:13 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Five degrees here at 4:36 pm on Friday and fresh winds. Scattered cu.
but not enough to produce much snow later tonight, as yet.
WE had a touch of sleet come through with that front this morning.
Looks like the next front is taking a little longer to reach us
according to Steve Symonds from the Bom on 2bl.
Lindsay p.
Andrew Miskelly wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> A very balmy 9C here at the moment, moderate gusty W winds. This morning is
> quite dissapionting really when the forecast a few days ago was for RAIN and
> snow, rather that a few showers and possible snow on high ground. We'll have
> to wait till tonight if that's even gonna roll in!
>
> The forecast chart looks nice though, looking forward to later on.
>
> Andrew.
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From: Phil Bagust [paisley at cobweb.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide : very dry air (was:Melbourne: very dry air)
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>Dewpoints in Melbourne have now fallen below 0, which is unusual in
>a winter SW airstream. The potential exists for a very cold night
>tonight, especially inland.
>
>No precipitation yet today, although there's a thin line near Geelong
>on the radar.
>
>Blair Trewin
Also very dry air in Adelaide, occasional high based cloud and very little
rain (although the air's been cool) until 4.00pm CST, when a heavy shower
came though, dropping the temp to less than 10 degrees.
Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
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At 5.00pm Fri, current temp 6 and falling. Some impressive,but
low topped Cb (about 4/8 cover) and glaciated Cu. Snow now
visibly falling to much lower levels and lots of mammatus -
all in all a very picturesque sky-scape.
With a forecast min of 1, very dry air (DP -1) and armed with
my formulae for snow under different dry and wet bulb
calculations..., and good air movement with the next frontal
passage, I wouldn't be surprised if Canberra suburbs don't
see a few snow flakes overnight or early tomorrow morning.
Things are looking a bit more interesting for a change..
Patrick
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Lightning to S/SE of Illawarra
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:27:12 +1000
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Some weakish Cb's during the afternoon south of the Illawarra, mostly over
ocean. Around 5pm one cell in my estimate may have had its rear just over
land around Ulladulla or further south.
Since nightfall there has been sporadic lightning flashes, estimate around
150 -200km SE.
Very mild afternoon actually, was 15C at 5pm, yet clouds to west were
showing as ice above 1200-1400m.
Should be very interesting tomorrow.
Michael Thompson
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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:48:41 +1000
From: Keith Barnett [weather at ozemail.com.au]
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The radar off Ulladulla/Moruya has been quite active in the last hour or
so with a large area of rain or showers up to the pink level in isolated
patches, moving east. Scattered showers with local yellow patches have
developed further north.
That secondary cold front is going to have a bit of a kick in it, I
think..
Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> Some weakish Cb's during the afternoon south of the Illawarra, mostly over
> ocean. Around 5pm one cell in my estimate may have had its rear just over
> land around Ulladulla or further south.
>
> Since nightfall there has been sporadic lightning flashes, estimate around
> 150 -200km SE.
>
> Very mild afternoon actually, was 15C at 5pm, yet clouds to west were
> showing as ice above 1200-1400m.
>
> Should be very interesting tomorrow.
>
> Michael Thompson
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From: "Peter Tristram" [petertri at midcoast.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: front
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:59:11 +1000
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Some heavy precipation south of Coffs - 5 mm or so - as the cloud band passed. No lightning that I've seen though. No wind yet either after a windy but warm (24degrees) arvo. Repton's rain total for July -391mm, 2055mm for year so far, but only 1mm plus tonight's, in August. People up here are hoping for snow at Ebor (1500m). Is there enough moisture behind the front to please the snow seekers?
Peter
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