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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Thursday, 28 October 1999

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001 Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]        shear and SRH
002 Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com]              intro
003 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast Storm
004 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             SE QLD Lightning Tracker
005 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
006 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Bundaberg storms
007 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Bundaberg storms
008 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    latest SOI Figure
009 Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]        Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast 
010 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
011 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             latest SOI Figure
012 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        latest SOI Figure
013 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at theweather.com.au]        Bundaberg rain
014 Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au                    latest SOI Figure
015 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             latest SOI Figure
016 "Steve" [sselka at ozemail.com.au]                The Season Ahead
017 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Lack of hot days in Melbourne
018 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              SE QLD Lightning Tracker
019 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              Bundaberg rain
020 Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au]              QLD/NSW Border storms
021 John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]             Lack of hot days in Melbourne
022 "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au]    Capricornia Severe T'storm Warning
023 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
024 Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au]         SE QLD Lightning Tracker
025 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Sydney hailstorms on Sunday
026 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
027 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           SE QLD Lightning Tracker
028 "paulmoss at tpgi.com.au" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au]  Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
029 Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.ne  Update on Wollongong Flash Floods
030 "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au]     SE QLD Lightning Tracker
031 Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au]           Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics
032 "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au]                  Question Re:Lightning Tracker

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001
From: Harald Richter [spatz at atmos.albany.edu]
Subject: aus-wx: shear and SRH
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:27:03 +0000 (GMT)
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Hi all,

Fortunate Anthony in stormy Brisbane wrote:

# One thing that I've learnt though, is that the SRH values on the
# sounding on Wyoming, are always different to the ones the BoM have, the
# BoM SRH values that I get given are always higher, the same goes with
# CAPE and LI's.  So I'm not 100% sure about the reliability of the
# soundings that we receive sometimes.  The strength of shear appears
# sufficient for at the very least, strong-severe multicellular growth
# from experience of what I've seen in SE QLD.

Not surprising.  In the beginning there is one (1) balloon going
up to take the sounding.  Even after error-checks (hydrostatic,
no superadiabatic gear etc.) the actual soundings, regardless
of who puts them on the net, should be very similar.  
ATM is still believe that soundings in raw form are reliable.
Where things get more fishy is the diagnostics done with them:
SRH, CAPE,...  SRH is sensitive to "storm motion" as computed
by some rule of thumb.  People take 0-3 or 0-4 or 0-6 km shear
vectors, walk along x % of them and turn right for a while and
call the resulting vector the storm motion vector which then
goes into the SRH calculation.  Depending on your storm motion
calculation you can lower/enhance SRH within quite generous bounds,
I think.  

Regarding supercell shear:  I try and cut out the "middle man"
and look at the 0-6 km shear vector.  If that's big enough 
(40 kts +) I smile, if not, I write negative emails.
I know, that 40+ value is an empirically based choice
looking at Southern Plains (US) storms only.  But at this
stage (assuming the laws of physics are the same everywhere)
I see no reason to adjust the value with latitude/time of year/other
stuff.  

Cheers from a zero-CAPE environment,

Harald
 

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:30:49 +1000
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From: Chris Maunder [cmaunder at mail.com]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: intro
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Hi Stuart - welcome!

>>Also receiving images direct from satellites- I have had [5yrs] an isa card
>receiver in my  computer that takes apt images down from noaa and meteor
>satellites

I remember reading a Dick Smith article on making one of these for yourself.
(LONG time ago :) Are they commercially available for the solder-and-circuit-
board challenged amongst us?

cheers,
Chris


At 03:48 PM 10/27/99 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>It has been some time since I joined this list and I think that it is about
>time
>I introduced myself
>
>I am Stuart Montgomery [ a sensible 50+ yrs] and I live in Ellangowan [about
>20k south of Casino, NSW].
>
>Brief history:
>    Lived on the south coast of WA. The first piece of real excitment
>was experiencing the Cylone Alby event. This started my interest in
>cyclones.
>After 30+ yrs  I then shifted to Halls Creek in the Kimberleys.
>Over the next 12 yrs,  during the wet season I had to watch heat driven
>thunderstorms  develop on  almost a daily basis.
>About two years ago I shifted here to find out what green grass [ and not
>spinifex]
>looked like and found out that  thunderstorms here occur for what seems like
>almost any reason.
>
>My interests are anythig to do with cyclones [ I have yet to see any real
>ones over this side of the country] and increasingly about thunderstorms and
>their effects.
>There was one thunderstorm last season that passed nearby, it sounded like a
>train roaring along and left a trail of wrecked trees and rubbish all over
>the place.
>Also receiving images direct from satellites- I have had [5yrs] an isa card
>receiver in my  computer that takes apt images down from noaa and meteor
>satellites
>
>Last weekend we had some lively storms  go over head with a few strikes
>close handy
>After the  first strike,[ the flash and tghunder almost together] when we
>had got
>some visibility back we rushed around and turned the computer off and
>settled a pair
> very nervous cats down. We ended up with 39mm rain.
>
>This morning another round of storms that woke us up at aound 5am and over
>the
>next four hours gave 18mm.  There has been 15mm and a few storms around
>midday.
>Not to bad - we have had 117mm this month so far.
>
>Anyhow that's enough from me for now....
>
>
>Stuart Montgomery
>
>Ellangowan
>Ph. (02) 66637029
>smontgom at nor.com.au
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003
From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:42:36 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Last Weekends ECL / Savage Storm at Taree / Gold Coast Storm
	 Chase Sunday
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Howdy all.

Last weekends ECL would be typical! I leave the State and that happens. Anyways
wash up at my house was 78mm most received between 10.30pm & 11.30pm on the
Saturday night! Highest return rate was 2.5mm per minute sustained for 3 minutes
blocks ( 3 about 11pm the heaviest period of rain).

The Storm that hit Taree areas on the Sunday brought golf ball size hail, plenty
of cg lightning and heavy rain that brought about 10mm in 3 minutes. Max wind
gust recorded at my house was 72km/h.

At leats I got to chase a QLD storm on the Sunday. I chased it from the Gold
Coast area to Coomera (sick) near Dreamworld when torrential rain reduced
visibility to about 10ms. I later checked the radar loop and it was shown to be
pink about that area. Some decent lightning. The 2nd cell that formed at the
flank of the 1st had something interesting happen - it shot out a small squall
line directly south over the Gold Coast with 3 cg's and some rain but had a
decent lowering - that's why I chased it - and the fact it was moving a
completely different way then the main storm (it was moving sort of ESE).

Anyways sounds like VERY interesting weather in NSW! But typically boring
weather in QLD! (Sorry guys but it was........).

Paul at Taree.


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004
From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net]
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:14:57 +1000
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Yeah, Hi Marty,

The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed.  In fact I advised Ben & 
Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it 
was unreliable.  I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5 
and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the 
former as 0.  I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like 
214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the 
next update 280 for <5 minutes.  When you have such widespread activity, it 
just doesn't start & stop like that.

I saved some of the more bizarre displays at: 
http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker

The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and 
suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come 
off the range at Toowoomba.

John.
>snip
Hi all,

Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this 
evening?
Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at 
one
point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago; 
700
or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was 
painted
in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700 
(yes
two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been 
about
8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to 
myself
at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available.

Cheers!

Marty.
Brisbane, Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:29:45 -0700
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
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Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?

I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.

For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
5-10 degree contrast?

Taa

Lindsay P.


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006
From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Bundaberg storms
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Bundaberg Airport recorded 166mm in the 24 hours to 0900 this morning.
News reports I've seen suggest that this came over a period of 2-3
hours from a slow-moving thunderstorm - can any Queenslanders 
confirm?

This is a record for the airport (with ~35 years of data), although
the now-closed Post Office site has had 199.6mm in October before.

It was the only three-figure total, although there were several other
falls in the 70+ range, scattered through several areas (Darling
Downs, Gold Coast hinterland, Sunshine Coast, Cape Moreton). Also
83 at Tenterfield (NSW).

Blair Trewin
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007
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:20:54 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Balir,

I think the news reports have said that this fell in around 2 hours,
certainly some very heavy rain and showers passed through.  I'm
currently uploading a broad loop onto BSCH, it's uploading slowly, but I
think Ben will send the URL to the list a bit later.  Certainly a very
nice line of thunderstorms, they developed very quickly on the northern
edge, as one would expect given the extra heating from less cloud.

Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> Bundaberg Airport recorded 166mm in the 24 hours to 0900 this morning.
> News reports I've seen suggest that this came over a period of 2-3
> hours from a slow-moving thunderstorm - can any Queenslanders
> confirm?
> 
> This is a record for the airport (with ~35 years of data), although
> the now-closed Post Office site has had 199.6mm in October before.
> 
> It was the only three-figure total, although there were several other
> falls in the 70+ range, scattered through several areas (Darling
> Downs, Gold Coast hinterland, Sunshine Coast, Cape Moreton). Also
> 83 at Tenterfield (NSW).
> 
> Blair Trewin
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38:02 +1000
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Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to +8.
Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina" event
with above average rainfall?

Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?

All I can say is bring it on...

PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for October.
Not too bad.

Paul at Taree.


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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:39:22 +0800
009
From: Michael Fewings [mike at strikeone.com.au]
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 StormChase Sunday
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Hi all,

Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au wrote:

>
> Anyways sounds like VERY interesting weather in NSW! But typically boring
> weather in QLD! (Sorry guys but it was........).
>
> Paul at Taree.
>

Geeze if that is boring I would love to know what category our weather of late falls
into.

Forecast for Perth for the next week is FINE :(

Give me Qld weather any day over what we have been getting here.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:46:34 +1000
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night.
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Lindsay wrote:
> 
> Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and
> Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night?
> 
> I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23
> out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think
> they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day.
> 
> For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have
> any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change
> coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal
> 5-10 degree contrast?

As I used to live in Katoomba, the lapse rate often intrigued me. All
has to do with the amount of moisture in the air and how much of that
moisture is precipitated on the windward side to the west of the Blue
Mountains before the air decends on the leeward side to the East.
Without getting too technical, an air mass rising to the west might
have 95% RH at Oberon with temp around 2C, possibly wet snow or
heavy drizzle falling. Further west, it was, say 80% RH and 5C at
Bathurst, so this air is cooling close to the moist air lapse rate
(-6C/1000m). Now the air is dryer as it approaches Katoomba, perhaps
65% RH and 5C. Remember that Bathurst is 744.5M, Oberon is 1190m,
Mt. Boyce is 1080m and Katoomba is 1030m. The air is warming at
closer to the dry-air lapse rate. There's also some gaps in the
cloud adding some radiative heating. So by the time it reaches 
Penrith, it's 40% RH and 17C. Under these circumstances, I've seen
temp differences between Katoomba and Sydney of 14C! with 2C at 
Katoomba and 16C in Sydney. Turn the prevailing wind around from
the east and you get a different lapse rate because now the air is
80% RH and 16C at Penrith, 95% RH and 13C at Springwood, 100% RH 
and 11C at Wentworth Falls (classic mountain mists) and maybe 100% 
RH and 10C at Katoomba with perhaps 9C at Mt. Boyce. I hope that
explains this phenomena without getting too technical...

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:04:03 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark
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>From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38 AM
>

>
>
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to
+8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina"
event
> with above average rainfall?
>
> Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?
>
> All I can say is bring it on...
>
> PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for
October.
> Not too bad.
>
> Paul at Taree.
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
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> 
> 
> 
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to +8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina" event
> with above average rainfall?

The shift actually happened a few weeks ago - the jump has become
noticeable because some low values in late September (it's a 30-day
running mean) have dropped out of the 30-day mean.

Blair Trewin


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Hi all,
Noticed this morning that Bundaberg received 166mm in 24 hours. The AWS
recorded an incredible 120mm in one hour. This would certainly cause
substantial flooding. Has anybody heard any damage reports?
Mark
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Gday Mark.

Is that indicative of anything?

Rgds, paul.





"Mark Hardy"  on 28/10/99 12:04:03 PM

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Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark
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>From: Paul_Mossman at agd.nsw.gov.au
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: latest SOI Figure
>Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:38 AM
>

>
>
> Howdy all. I noticed last night that the SOI figure has lept dramatically to
+8.
> Is this a positive indication that we are going to experience a "La Nina"
event
> with above average rainfall?
>
> Does the SOI also relate to monsoonal activity & Cyclonic activity?
>
> All I can say is bring it on...
>
> PS I have received 104mm for October which is 40mm over the average for
October.
> Not too bad.
>
> Paul at Taree.
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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:50:37 +1000
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Yeh, sounds like the long paddock's gonna get wet  :)
>snip
Gday Mark.

Is that indicative of anything?

Rgds, paul.


Paul, Long Paddock has it up to 9.6 on the 30 day average. Pretty large jump
over the past month.
Mark

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From: "Steve" [sselka at ozemail.com.au]
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http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/rain_ahead.shtml
 
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017 From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU] Subject: aus-wx: Lack of hot days in Melbourne To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:38:20 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The likely passing of October without a 30-degree day (highest so far 27.5) in Melbourne got me looking at years with few hot days in spring. This is nowhere near record-setting - in fact, only 43% of years in Melbourne have a 30+ day in October. The last five years, however, have all featured such a day. If it doesn't get any warmer on Saturday, 27.5 will rank 105th of 145 years for 'highest maximum'. Out of interest: Latest first day over 25: 6 November 1905 5 November 1890 4 November 1958 2 November 1860 1 November 1976 Latest first day over 30: 19 December 1856 14 December 1879 10 December 1992 7 December 1860 7 December 1916 Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 018 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:41:31 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey John, Everyone.. John Woodbridge wrote: > > Yeah, Hi Marty, > > The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised Ben & > Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it > was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5 > and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the > former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like > 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the > next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread activity, it > just doesn't start & stop like that. It was a shocking bust chase.. we drove into a rain band just after midday, then we drove out of the rainband about 8:30pm or so that night.. after driving 650km through thundery rain... oh well.. can't win them all i guess.. we were just in the wrong area, 150km or more to our north was where we needed to be.. > I saved some of the more bizarre displays at: > http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker I have put together a lightning tracker loop from 2-3 am Wednesday morning (MAJOR electrical storms in northern NSW) till around midnight last night.. thanks to Jason Bush and Anthony Cornelius for saving these images.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop.htm > The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and > suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come > off the range at Toowoomba. Even though the lightning tracker showed a very high lightning rate just north of where we ended up, it was totally overcast with light/occasionally moderate rain from Toowoomba west.. with plenty of low cloud.. so we basically saw stuff all.. frustrating to say the least.. > John. > >snip > Hi all, 8> > Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this > evening? > Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at > one > point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago; > 700 > or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was > painted > in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700 > (yes > two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been > about > 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to > myself > at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available. > > Cheers! > > Marty. > Brisbane, Australia > martyp at dynamite.com.au > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d > ICQ: 11790565 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 019 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:09 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bundaberg rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Mark, everyone.. I did a bit of snooping around and no-one knew of any flooding from the rain.. and i haven't seen anything on the news yet, although you would think rain that heavy would have to cause at least some local flooding.. I have put together a satellite picture animation of the storms in SE QLD and northwards yesterday afternoon and overnight.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/satpicloop.htm And also Anthony has put together a Brisbane broad scale radar event loop.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/eventloop.htm The tracker doesn't go as far north as Bundaberg.. but there was a line of storms at the far northern end of the map overnight.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop-overnight2.htm Mark Hardy wrote: > > Hi all, > Noticed this morning that Bundaberg received 166mm in 24 hours. The AWS > recorded an incredible 120mm in one hour. This would certainly cause > substantial flooding. Has anybody heard any damage reports? > Mark > -- > _____________________________________________________ > Mark Hardy. > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > Level 2, 7 West Street, North Sydney 2060 > Ph (02) 9955 7704. Fax (02) 9955 1536. > Mobile 0414 642 739 > email: mhardy at theweather.com.au > _____________________________________________________ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 020 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:16:05 +1000 From: Ben Quinn [bodie at flatrate.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: QLD/NSW Border storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Ben from Brisbane here.. Most people probably already know a line of strong storms moved through NSW/QLD border areas early Wednesday morning.. one of these storms unroofed a house (possibly more than one) and uprooted trees at Texas.. the storms moved further east unleashing HUGE amounts of lightning in northern NSW in the early hours of the morning, with the lightning tracker recording up to almost 600 Cg's in every 5 minute period at one stage (in just one storm!!!!).. I posted to the list early that morning saying there was a very strong storm on the border ranges with a large area of red.. i have made a short local loop of the storm.. quite spectacular.. huge area of red for 40 mins straight.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/border-range/localloop.htm There is also a Brisbane broad scale event loop of the storms that move through Texas and other border areas.. http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/border-range/eventloop.htm We were hanging on to the hope of a few lingering storms in SE QLD today.. but it doesn't look like there will be anything significant around.. a congestus shower forming to my SW at the moment, but i'm not convinced it's going to do much.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 021 From: John Woodbridge [jrw at pixelcom.net] To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lack of hot days in Melbourne Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:00:29 +1000 Organization: Pixel Components X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hmmm,, Not overly surprising when you consider that Brisbane hasn't officially been over 30 yet (ooo, maybe it just made it the other day). John. >snip The likely passing of October without a 30-degree day (highest so far 27.5) in Melbourne got me looking at years with few hot days in spring. This is nowhere near record-setting - in fact, only 43% of years in Melbourne have a 30+ day in October. The last five years, however, have all featured such a day. If it doesn't get any warmer on Saturday, 27.5 will rank 105th of 145 years for 'highest maximum'. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 022 From: "James Chambers" [jamestorm at ozemail.com.au] To: "aus-wx" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Capricornia Severe T'storm Warning Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:32:25 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all It's all happening in Qld once again...this time near Rockhamton, Central Qld. Gladstone, the place that scored 120mm in an hour last night *should* be spared by the big ones, but other areas won't be. Just a pity the radar in the region is so poor. Media: The Standard Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this warning. TOP PRIORITY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane at 4:14pm EST on Thursday the 28th of October 1999 For the Capricornia District The Bureau of Meteorology advises people of the possibility of severe thunderstorms with damaging winds and large hail in the Capricornia district. Radar observations show two large thunderstorm cells just north of Rockhampton and near Yaamba moving northeast. People are advised to secure outside items, move cars under cover and seek shelter. 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Lindsay wrote: > > Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and > Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night? > > I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23 > out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think > they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day. > > For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have > any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change > coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal > 5-10 degree contrast? > > Taa > > Lindsay P. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 024 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 16:43:13 +1000 From: Paul Miracki [pmiracki at powerup.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Hey all... About the lightning tracker.. What I think happened is that it was basically turning off and then on again. So if it turned off for 7 minutes or so then it would have missed out on all the whites and just shown the strikes before that as we can see in this image: http://www.powerup.com.au/~pmiracki/weather/nice1.gif You can also see that there is no green strikes so it propably wasn't working during that time too. There was also a period when it was off for quiet a while and only had greens and blues on it. But then It came back on. So I don't think it was adding the strikes together but was simply not working from time to time. :-) > Yeah, Hi Marty, > > The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised > Ben & > Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, > that it > was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling > the <5 > and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the > > former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things > like > 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then > the > next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread > activity, it > just doesn't start & stop like that. > > I saved some of the more bizarre displays at: > http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker > > The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys > and > suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just > come > off the range at Toowoomba. > > John. > >snip > Hi all, > > Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this > evening? > Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, > because at > one > point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins > ago; > 700 > or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was > > painted > in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around > 2,700 > (yes > two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've > been > about > 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email > to > myself > at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it > available. > > Cheers! > > Marty. > Brisbane, Australia > martyp at dynamite.com.au > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d > ICQ: 11790565 > > +-+-+-+-+-+- > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -------- > --------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > +-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -------- > --------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 025 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:02:37 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney hailstorms on Sunday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Landillo (spelling) is about 5-10km NE of Penrith I suppose between Penrith and Scofields And no Schofields did not get hail only 2.2mm of rain from that storm. Apparently Werrington got about 5 minutes or so hail again around pea sized. Werrington is just east of Penrith. Jimmy Deguara At 06:47 27/10/99 +1000, you wrote: >Where the hell is Landilo??? >Don W > >Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > > > Last Sunday, there were hailstorms reported in quite a few suburbs. Now I > > have word from my friend Troy Green at Landilo that hail fell for about 20 > > minutes and covered the ground in a blanket of white. Hail was about marble > > sized. Now as I said on Sunday, this type of event was anticipated with > > similar situations in September1988 and possibly August1989. I would have > > to check the dates on these though. > > > > Quite an interesting system. Oh, if you are wondering about our report for > > both chases for Saturday and Sunday, James Harris has volunteered to do it > > (no I didn't force him..... just twisted his arm instead). > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 026 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:20:10 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night. From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey, hang on Don, he still gets all his data from the Bureau of Met. Mark ---------- >From: Don White >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Blackheath - Sydney Temp differences on Tues. night. >Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 4:46 PM > > Lindsay > Weather with Tim Bailey??? Surely you don't expect accuracy? > > > Lindsay wrote: >> >> Did anyone else notice the temperature differences for Blackheath and >> Sydney on the Channel Ten weather report on Tuesday night? >> >> I think it was 8 degrees (at katoomba actually, not blackheath) and 23 >> out west and 21 on the Sydney coast. Now that is a contrast! I think >> they were current temps for around 5:30pm that day. >> >> For those in the know more than me, (which is most of you), do you have >> any comments on such a contrast? I guess it had to do with the change >> coming through Blackheath, not yet hitting Sydney, on top of the normal >> 5-10 degree contrast? >> >> Taa >> >> Lindsay P. >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 027 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:23:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ben, that is part of chasing. Try driving a similar distance and seeing nothing. Thta is what we had to contend with a few years ago - even last Year!!!!!! But that is part of this never-ending experiment. Keep chasing and you will eventually get the good stuff. If you stay at home, you will get bugger all. I am enjoying these regular chases. Jimmy Deguara At 14:41 28/10/99 +1000, you wrote: >Hey John, Everyone.. > >John Woodbridge wrote: > > > > Yeah, Hi Marty, > > > > The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I advised Ben & > > Rossco who went out on what I suspect ended up being a bust chase, that it > > was unreliable. I think what was happening was that it was rolling the <5 > > and sometimes the 5..10 minute figures into the 10..20 and leaving the > > former as 0. I was continually monitoring it, and got weird things like > > 214 for <5 minutes, the next update showed 0 for < 5minutes and then the > > next update 280 for <5 minutes. When you have such widespread activity, it > > just doesn't start & stop like that. > >It was a shocking bust chase.. we drove into a rain band just after >midday, then we drove out of the rainband about 8:30pm or so that >night.. after driving 650km through thundery rain... oh well.. can't win >them all i guess.. we were just in the wrong area, 150km or more to our >north was where we needed to be.. > > > I saved some of the more bizarre displays at: > > http://www.pixelcom.net/jrw/tracker > >I have put together a lightning tracker loop from 2-3 am Wednesday >morning (MAJOR electrical storms in northern NSW) till around midnight >last night.. thanks to Jason Bush and Anthony Cornelius for saving these >images.. > >http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/archiveddata/october99/27/trackerloop.htm > > > > The 16:26 AEST display is the one which prompted me to call the boys and > > suggest they head back out towards Dalby, at that stage the had just come > > off the range at Toowoomba. > >Even though the lightning tracker showed a very high lightning rate just >north of where we ended up, it was totally overcast with >light/occasionally moderate rain from Toowoomba west.. with plenty of >low cloud.. so we basically saw stuff all.. frustrating to say the >least.. > > > > John. > > >snip > > Hi all, >8> > > Was the Energex lightning tracker for SE QLD working correctly this > > evening? > > Well, as far as I could see, there was something dodgy going on, because at > > one > > point there was no strikes for 20-30mins ago; 800 or so for 10-20mins ago; > > 700 > > or so for 5-10mins ago; and no strikes at all for <5mins. (The map was > > painted > > in blue and green spots with no other colours!) Also, I got around 2,700 > > (yes > > two thousand seven hundred!) blue (over 30mins ago). This would've been > > about > > 8pm this evening. I have this image saved at work, but forgot to email to > > myself > > at home, but if anyone wants to see it, I'll be glad to make it available. > > > > Cheers! > > > > Marty. > > Brisbane, Australia > > martyp at dynamite.com.au > > Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp > > Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning > > 3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d > > ICQ: 11790565 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 028 X-Sender: paulmoss at tpgi.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:19:34 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "paulmoss at tpgi.com.au" [paulmoss at tpgi.com.au] Subject: aus-wx: Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Howdy all. I am looking for decent sites with low-res visual & infrared satpics that are quick loading. I have checked all the ones on Michael + Jimmys page but most seem to be out of order or extremely slow. Any help? Paul. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 029 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:39:25 +1000 From: Kerrie Christian [kcact at wollongong.starway.net.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Update on Wollongong Flash Floods Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael thanks for the feedback - I'm not sure how much that I could achieve but when we deal with this issue at Wollongong City Council I could take the opportunity to ask if this issue could be looked into - maybe the message will get through - especially as so many individuals are quite shocked at the damage when we had not had days and says of rain leading up to the event - I could also talk to individual media reps as I encounter them - one actually spoke of his concern to me some time back - he had lived in Darwin for quite a while and therefore was quite responsible about cyclone warnings etc - but he said that at one NSW radio station that he worked at he would come into his shift and find weather warnings still sitting on the fax and definitely not communicated to the public - hopefully that may change now Cr Kerrie Anne Christian Ward I Councillor - Wollongong City Council Michael Thompson wrote: > I am happy with the BOM performance on this event. East coast lows are > notoriously tricky to forecast, they virtually spin up overnight and their > placement in relation to what weather you will get makes them a forecast > nightmare. As little as 100km can mean the difference between onshore winds > and heavy rain or offshore dry winds and sunshine. > > For example on Sunday morning when houses were again going under at Figtree, > only 50km away to the NW was in sunshine. > > However your second paragraph pretty much sums it up, the public are simply > not aware of the significance, and rely on media to pass the message on. > Media tend to be haphazard about this, radio stations generally pass it on > albeit often well after the event has passed, but I have yet to see TV > outside the weather report to do such. > > One of the long term aims of the ASWA ( Australian Severe Weather > Association ) is to lift public awareness of Australian weather, > particularly thunderstorms and other potentially severe situations. > > Perhaps you have some suggestions ? > > Michael > > > Michael raises an interesting point about the issuing of warnings - it > would be > > interesting to know when the Illawarra was put on alert - I understand > that it > > was definitely about midnight on Saturday night - with the first calls for > help > > to Council engineers/SES about 8.00am on Sunday down in the Dapto area > > > > also I wonder if enough in the public understand the significance of a > "severe > > storm warning" rating - and that we don't necessarily need a week of two > of rain > > to saturate a catchment prior to a severe storm incident before real > problems > > with flooding can occur > > > > Kerrie Christian > > Thirroul > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 030 From: "Anthony Spierings" [as029 at powerup.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: RE: aus-wx: SE QLD Lightning Tracker Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:32:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all, > The lightning tracker was almost totally stuffed. In fact I I understand that there is was some more tweaking on the new cluster server last night. Regards, Anthony Spierings +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 031 X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:30:04 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara [jdeguara at ihug.com.au] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Decent Visual & Infrared Satpics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Paul, there are now a few more sites that are on the satpics page!!! They have been slow lately for some reason - reasons - who knows. One of the reason given was the position of the sun re the satellite which would affect everything at this time of the year!!! See how it goes. The GMSD is the best choice by far when it works fast enough and it usually does except when you are on a chase!! Jimmy Deguara At 19:19 28/10/99 +1000, you wrote: >Howdy all. > >I am looking for decent sites with low-res visual & infrared satpics that >are quick loading. I have checked all the ones on Michael + Jimmys page but >most seem to be out of order or extremely slow. Any help? > >Paul. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 032 From: "Pearce" [rpearce at tig.com.au] To: [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:58:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Marty There is a rain radar on Foxtel(for Sydney at least), and it immediately follows the current observations. Its fairly useless in terms of rainfall intensity though, as the colours are awful! However, it gives a good general idea of where the rain is, and saves a connection to the internet just to check if anything's on the radar. I don't know anything about a lightning tracker...its not on the Sydney one. Matthew -----Original Message----- From: Marty [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: aussie-weather at world.std.com [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999 11:11 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker >Hi again, > >Is there a lightning tracker available on Foxtel? > >Also, a while ago someone mentioned that a rain radar was available on Foxtel's >weather channel (29). I have checked recently, but have seen no radar. > >I went up to Mt Coot-tha this evening around 9 o'clock for a bit of a bo-peep, >to see if we could see any lightning in the distance. Forget about not seeing >lightning, we couldn't even see the city! It was so foggy! We could barely see >the streetlights on the roads at the foot of Mt Coot-tha! Quite an eerie and >enjoyable experience. > >Ciao, > >Marty. >Brisbane, Australia >martyp at dynamite.com.au >Images of Canberra: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp >Lightning Photos: http://www2.dynamite.com.au/martyp/lightning >3D Photography: http://www.bit.net.au/~erinm/3d >ICQ: 11790565 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steve >To: severeweather >Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999 21:21 >Subject: aus-wx: Question Re:Lightning Tracker > > > Hi All, > I notice that the lightning tracker is always about 30 minutes behind, but >on the Teletext (page 170) it is only 30 seconds behind, Anyone know why? > > Steve > > > http://sselka.tripod.com/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------

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