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Australian Weather Mailing List Archives: Friday, 25 February 2000

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001 Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au]              GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation 
002 "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]             GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation 
003 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           AcCas for breakfast
004 Harald Richter [hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa  AcCas for breakfast (fwd)
005 "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au]        AcCas for breakfast
006 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation
007 Patrick_Tobin at ama.com.au                       Nice cell south of Canberra + T'vill rain
008 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Victorian chase tomorrow / AcCas for breakfast 
009 Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.  GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation
010 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
011 Paul.Mossman at DWNNICH.OCA.nt.gov.au             Nice cell south of Canberra + T'vill rain
012 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Victoria 
013 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Flash flooding reported in Werribee
014 "Andrew McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]        Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
015 Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]        Victoria firing...
016 "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]           Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria 
017 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Mt. Kilomanjaro ice melting 
018 Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]                   Lake Eyre - what sort of fill can we expect
019 Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au]             Victoria firing...
020 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Victoria firing...
021 "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]   Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
022 Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]    Gustnado Reported east of Melbourne!!!
023 Ira Fehlberg [jra at upnaway.com]                 Gustnado Reported east of Melbourne!!!
024 "Dane Newman" [dpn at bigpond.com]                Kilsyth Storm
025 Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au]            Victoria 
026 Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au]             : Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Victoria 
027 "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au]               Fw: NEW RESULTS SHOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS OVER THE OCEAN
028 Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au]             Melbourne Gusta!

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001
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:59:17 +1000
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From: Carl Smith [carls at ace-net.com.au]
Subject: aus-wx: GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation 
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Hi All.

Just copied this message from the Hong Kong Weather Undergound English
Forum at http://www.weather.org.hk/discus/messages/1/1.html and thought I
would pass it on for those who may be interested in GMS-5 satellite images:

>By Cecil Ma on Thursday, February 24, 2000 - 07:24 pm:
>
>It is getting close to equinox time and GMS-5 will be moving into Earth's
>shadow around midnight and getting the sun reflected directly from near
>equator at 140E into its device.
>
>From tonight through the night of April 10, there will be no 14Z, 15Z, and
>16Z pictures and from February 29 through March 7, there will be no 03Z
>picture.
>

Regards,
Carl.


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation 
From: "Mark Hardy" [mhardy at magna.com.au]
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With all due respect to Cecil Ma, this does not seem to make sense!! How 
does the sun reflect from the equator at 140E in the middle of the night?
The missing overnight images are more likely to be a power problem due to
lack of solar energy during the nightly eclipse of the sun by the earth.
Reflection from the earth back into the satellite would occur all year
round, not just at 03Z during the equinox - the roundness of the earth will
ensure that. I was under the impression the missing 03Z image was due to the
the ground station being unable to capture image data while looking directly
into the sun at equinox time. Can anybody provide the final word on the
missing overnight images and the missing midday image?
MH
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>From: Carl Smith 
>To: aussie-weather mailing list 
>Subject: aus-wx: GMS-5 Eclipse and Solar Interference Operation
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 1:59
>

> Hi All.
>
> Just copied this message from the Hong Kong Weather Undergound English
> Forum at http://www.weather.org.hk/discus/messages/1/1.html and thought I
> would pass it on for those who may be interested in GMS-5 satellite images:
>
>>By Cecil Ma on Thursday, February 24, 2000 - 07:24 pm:
>>
>>It is getting close to equinox time and GMS-5 will be moving into Earth's
>>shadow around midnight and getting the sun reflected directly from near
>>equator at 140E into its device.
>>
>>From tonight through the night of April 10, there will be no 14Z, 15Z, and
>>16Z pictures and from February 29 through March 7, there will be no 03Z
>>picture.
>>
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
>
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: AcCas for breakfast
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:31:12 +1100
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It's the perfect storm chaser's breakfast this morning - AcCas everywhere to
the north of Melbourne, and an aviation forecast like this...
MOIST SFC NE/N'LY FLOW. FRONT FCST NEAR PORTLAND 08Z. SCT SHRA.
 ISOL TSRA, PARTICULARLY AFTER 02Z NEAR RANGES AND IN SOUTHWEST.

Keep an eye on the Melbourne webcam - unfortunately one of the directions it
doesn't face is north but west is starting to look interesting too......
http://webcam.omni.net.au/

Now all we need is patience and shear!!!

Jane ONeill

ASWA - Victoria





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From: Harald Richter [hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov]
Subject: aus-wx: AcCas for breakfast (fwd)
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Hi all,

Jane from Accas-flooded MLB wrote: 
> Keep an eye on the Melbourne webcam - unfortunately one of the directions it
> doesn't face is north but west is starting to look interesting too......
> http://webcam.omni.net.au/
> 
> Now all we need is patience and shear!!!
... and maybe steeper lapse rates

Last night's (12Z) MML sounding showed pretty
flat lapse rates.   Taking Adelaide as a pseudo-upstream
sounding (with NW'y mid-level Melbourne winds),
the lapse-rate story is the same.  
For a change Melbourne has some moisture. :)

I might just assume that some incredibly cold
upper-level air is hiding out over the ocean,
waiting to be advected in ...  

Harald
 

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From: "L.J. & B. Smail" [gws at pipeline.com.au]
Subject: Re: aus-wx: AcCas for breakfast
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Some beauties just NW and W of Geelong.
Lindsay Smail.

At 08:31 AM 25-02-00 +1100, you wrote:
>It's the perfect storm chaser's breakfast this morning - AcCas everywhere to
>the north of Melbourne, and an aviation forecast like this...
>MOIST SFC NE/N'LY FLOW. FRONT FCST NEAR PORTLAND 08Z. SCT SHRA.
> ISOL TSRA, PARTICULARLY AFTER 02Z NEAR RANGES AND IN SOUTHWEST.
>
>Keep an eye on the Melbourne webcam - unfortunately one of the directions it
>doesn't face is north but west is starting to look interesting too......
>http://webcam.omni.net.au/
>
>Now all we need is patience and shear!!!
>
>Jane ONeill
>
>ASWA - Victoria
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:28:24 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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[snip]
Mark Hardy wrote on Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:40:59 +1100
> ...Can anybody provide the final word on the
> missing overnight images and the missing midday image?

This thread happened last time GMS5 went into what is
termed "eclipse operation". I never got an answer that
made sense. GMS5 has always done this as did GMS4 and
also the new satellite to replace GMS5 (see below)
may also have this behavior. GMS5 - per se, isn't
disfunctional at these times. Raw data is still being 
sent to Earth, but the problem does seem to smell of 
a satellite receiver interference problem caused by 
the relationship between GMS5 and the Sun when viewed
from Earth. Remember that the raw data is reprocessed
here on Earth by JMA, then retransmitted through GMS5
in the distribution formats. Any interference along
that path will result in corrupted or absent images.

What my archive does pick up, just as "eclipse operation"
occurs at the beginning and end of the period, some 
strange partial images. This means that the raw data was
OK since it was transmitted from GMS5 at the earlier time
(just after the scan), but the redistribution from JMA 
back through GMS5 got into strife as "eclipse operation"
occured, resulting in truncated images.

Some good links concerning MSTAT (which was destroyed
during launch) can be found here;

http://www.bom.gov.au/sat/MTSAT/MTSAT.shtml
http://yyy.tksc.nasda.go.jp/Home/Press/Press-e/199911/h28_991115_e.html

I've trolled around looking for info about this "eclipse
operation" of GMS5 to no avail:-(

As for the Sun shining straight into GMS5's device, this
doesn't make sense since I've got droves of visual archived
satpic images that were transmitted OK as great-white blobs
and over-exposed arcs that occured when the Sun shone right
into GMS5's camera but the IR1,2,3 satpics remain intact 
over that period. "Eclipse Operation" is an entirely
different phenomena.

Michael Scollay       mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:03:25 +1000
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At last!!

 At 11.30am a nice, smallish Cb has formed south of Canberra.

Lots of active congestus over the ranges and some rather large
AC to the W and NW.

We have some decent moisture  so for once this season we should
have an interesting afternoon/evening.

Patrick

PS Have just heard on the radio that Townsville received 100mm in
6hrs this morning. Flooding is widespread and roads are blocked.


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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Victorian chase tomorrow / AcCas for breakfast 
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:19:59 +1100
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Andrew McDonald is commandeering the Ford station wagon tomorrow and
preparing to head to parts north.  He'd be very happy to accommodate 1 or 2
extra people for the day.  If you're interested and would like to join him
on a chase please email him at mcdonald at one.net.au & he'll get back to you
after 6.30pm tonight.


and from Andrew regarding today....

"had a quick look to the W and it looks OK - not all that good but for
11:30am its not too shabby.  Seems to be a warm layer (cap) at about 600mb
maybe a little closer to 500mb.  I'd be interested to see a sounding today.
Seems like mid level moisture has increased a little overnight but not much.
Either that or it is cooling a little in the middle layers.  Lapse rate
might be a little steeper today with surface temperatures a little higher
than yesterday.



Weak cap also at about 6000ft or about 850mb too i think - keeping this
under control for a while longer yet.  Thing out to the W has broken it
though and ranges will fire soon I'm pretty sure."

from Andrew McDonald by remote 


.....and I just couldn't resist - have just been up the hill in Kew & taken
some photos of the turkeys...

Jane ONeill
Victoria



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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:34:44 +1100
From: Michael Scollay [michael.scollay at telstra.com.au]
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FYI - GMS5 satpics from NPMOC time-stamped on 20000224:

0031Z - 1231Z are OK
1331Z + 1431Z are missing
1541Z is complete but a corrupted image
1624Z - 2331Z are OK

With 1541Z, the exposure is delayed to avoid as much
of the "GMS5 Eclipse Operation" (G5EO) as possible so 
that most of the Northern Hemisphere is OK. Most of the 
Southern Hemisphere is obliterated:-(

At GMS5's location (140E) this is Japan's time zone
which puts the local time at about GMT + 0900, so the
local time in Japan at the time of missing and corrupted
images is for:

1331Z = 2231 (PM)
1431Z = 2331 (PM)
1541Z = 0041 (AM)

So to explain reasons for this, the original E-Mail from
Carl Smith via Cecil Ma is partly correct about the timing
of missing images:

In 1999, autumn G5EO was from 26/02 to 12/04 inclusive 
and spring from 30/08 to 17/10 inclusive. But in all cases
missing images were from 1331 to 1541 inclusive. I don't
have a record of missing 0231 or 0331 images during this
period.

In my previous mail, I discounted GMS5's cameras as the
primary reason. Otherwise, it seems that satellite to Earth 
"radio interference" is the cause which around midnight 
in Japan can possibly mean that GMS5 encounters the cloud
of charged particals that forms around the Earth's magnetic
field in the shape of a tear-drop with the fat end facing 
the Sun and the tapered end trailing directly behind the 
Earth. If that cloud comes between the Earth and GMS5 or 
it interfers with GMS5's radio systems, then I would expect
some significant interference as signal-to-noise ratios
could go "off the graph"...perhaps. This could all be crap
leaving the very simple explanation that GMS5's receiving
and transmitting systems are simply compromised in terms
of signal-to-noise ratios when the Sun shines on them at
a particular angle which is only encountered during periods
around the autumn and spring equinox...perhaps. Or reflected
E-M radiation from the Sun via GMS5's antenna arrays is also
a plausible reason (mentioned in a way in the original Email
on this subject)...perhaps. Somehow, to design GMS5 this 
vulnerable is a bit strange so I'd rather settle with a 
reason outside of the scope of GMS5's inherent design...
but I could also be wrong again:-)

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After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for possible
severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!


Jane ONeill
Victoria




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Hi Patrick -

Doesnt surprise me - look at the radar! Plenty of red everywhere.

PS - Here - its hot * humid Temp 30 with DP of 26. We are supposed to have
squally monsoonal showers & storms - but its blue sky at the moment.

Paul in darwin.




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Subject: aus-wx: Nice cell south of Canberra + T'vill rain



At last!!

 At 11.30am a nice, smallish Cb has formed south of Canberra.

Lots of active congestus over the ranges and some rather large
AC to the W and NW.

We have some decent moisture  so for once this season we should
have an interesting afternoon/evening.

Patrick

PS Have just heard on the radio that Townsville received 100mm in
6hrs this morning. Flooding is widespread and roads are blocked.


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:57:51 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Subject: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx: Victoria 
 possibly in for severe weather?
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Hi all!

Good call Jane!!!  Just a shame you are in a training session right now,
I hope it has windows, or maybe it's good if it doesn't, or you won't be
paying attention 

(PS, I don't know how the t'storm warning about be issued at 1600
Friday, as it's only 1400 EDT!)

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYVICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCASTPrioritySevere Thunderstorm Warning
for the Melbourne Metropolitan area.
Issued at 1245 on Friday the 25th of February 2000  
Thunderstorms have been identified on radar over the western suburbs of
Melbourne. These storms are moving slowly southeast and are likely to
produce
heavy rain leading to flash flooding.
This warning will be reviewed at 3.15pm and should not be broadcast
after this
time.   

IDW10V00

BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE


Thunderstorm Warning

Issued at 1600 on Friday the 25th of February 2000 forthe Metropolitan
Area

Thunderstorms are likely over the Melbourne metropolitan area this
afternoon and
evening. 


Jane ONeill wrote:
> 
> After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for possible
> severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
> rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
> 
> Jane ONeill
> Victoria
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Please report severe thunderstorms on our Queensland severe thunderstorm
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Flash flooding reported in Werribee
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Just heard a radio report of flash flooding in Werribee (30km SW of
Melbourne).

ON the radar it looks like an isolated cell which is tracking ESE
(in other words, not much chance of chasing it unless you're in a 
boat). I suspect it won't be the last one we see today, though.

A severe thunderstorm warning has been issued (as well as a common,
garden variety thunderstorm warning, which, showing a remarkable
degree of anticipation, is time-stamped 1600!).

Dewpoints generally 18-21, dry-bulb has been to 32 (which won't do the
cause of a monthly record any harm). Last night's min was 19.6, a 
record 9th consecutive night over 19 (with a 10th likely tonight).

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From: "Andrew McDonald" [mcdonald at one.net.au]
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:10:56 +1100
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Jane I have just sent Andrew the Radar picture for 1410 at his work after
hearing on the radio. news at 1400 that there is a servere thunderstorm
warning issued by BOM. Good luck for a possible chase, good to see you last
night, I'm going shopping right now so as not to get caught in the rain
later. Bye. Debbie McDonald.
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: aus-wx: Victoria possibly in for severe weather?


>
> After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for
possible
> severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
> rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
>
>
> Jane ONeill
> Victoria
>
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From: Blair Trewin [blair at met.Unimelb.EDU.AU]
Subject: aus-wx: Victoria firing...
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Storms firing up all over Victoria at the moment - in addition to the
Werribee storm mentioned earlier (now falling apart), there are lines/
clusters over the eastern Latrobe Valley, along the Vic/SA border west
of Nhill, and in east Gippsland and the Monaro north of Orbost. The
last of these looks particularly impressive, but is in very remote
country.

Also plenty of more scattered activity, especially in the south.

Blair Trewin
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From: "Jane ONeill" [cadence at rubix.net.au]
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria 
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:48:01 +1100
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Not my call, Anthony....it was Clyve Herbert's ....and it came from him
while on holidays in Queensland!!!!!!!

Clyve thought early this morning that there would be storms today in
Victoria, and then mentioned that he thought they'd go severe even before I
knew there'd been a warning!!!

10/10 to Clyve!!!!!!

Jane ONeill
Victoria



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Subject: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx: Victoria
possibly in for severe weather?


> Hi all!
>
> Good call Jane!!!  Just a shame you are in a training session right now,
> I hope it has windows, or maybe it's good if it doesn't, or you won't be
> paying attention 
>
> (PS, I don't know how the t'storm warning about be issued at 1600
> Friday, as it's only 1400 EDT!)
>
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGYVICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
> NEWS FLASH - FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCASTPrioritySevere Thunderstorm Warning
> for the Melbourne Metropolitan area.
> Issued at 1245 on Friday the 25th of February 2000
> Thunderstorms have been identified on radar over the western suburbs of
> Melbourne. These storms are moving slowly southeast and are likely to
> produce
> heavy rain leading to flash flooding.
> This warning will be reviewed at 3.15pm and should not be broadcast
> after this
> time.
>
> IDW10V00
>
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>
> Thunderstorm Warning
>
> Issued at 1600 on Friday the 25th of February 2000 forthe Metropolitan
> Area
>
> Thunderstorms are likely over the Melbourne metropolitan area this
> afternoon and
> evening.
>
>
> Jane ONeill wrote:
> >
> > After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for
possible
> > severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
> > rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
> >
> > Jane ONeill
> > Victoria
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:36:50 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Michael,

Great stuff, I've filed it away. I have a book called great climbs, its
a hum dinger of a book on many mountains of the world. Fascinating.

[Big swipe of the sugar cane cutter rather than a SNIP here..........]

Michael Scollay wrote:
> 

> During my visit and climb to the highest point of this
> "dormant" volcano during 1991 (Uhuru Pt. 5895m), I met
> some scientists trudging en-route from the crater who
> where studying whether the ice melting on this mountain
> was due to a hotter mountain rather than a hotter planet
> and/or reduced precipitation per se. They could not make
> up their minds one way or another for sure as the data
> they carried was yet to be properly analysed but quote:
> 
> "There is some evidence of minor activity in the crater
> that would contribute to the loss of the ice-cap but we
> also think that there has been a more substantial drop
> in the amount ofprecipitation over the last 20 years but
> this is only anecdotal evidence from visual
> observations".
>


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:40:22 -0800
From: Lindsay [writer at lisp.com.au]
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Thanks Phil for that one, some good stuff to get me going on my mountain
interests there. Will look into it when I can.

Cheers,

Lindsay P.

Phil Bagust wrote:
> 
> >Good question, I second that enquiry. Also, does anyone have any
> >information on the melting of glacial ice on Mount Kilimanjaro or any
> >good links to it? After some of the global warming discussions we've
> >had, it prompted me to enquire about this, one of my favourite
> >mountains. I know there has been some considerable melting up there.
> >It's a fascinating mountain as it is very high but much more accessible
> >for the average person, compared to most high mountains.
> >
> >Lindsay Pearce
> 
> Not sure about Kilimanjaro, but i'm pretty sure that equatorial glaciers
> are amongst the most sensitive of all - their existance is aways a
> sensitive balance of precipitation, mostly wet snow near 0deg, and melting.
> The CSIRO [I think] did a survey of the Equatorial glaciers of West Irian
> in the early 70's and even then they were much reduced from the 1930's
> [this book may be in some libraries - it has some great shots of the
> glaciers taken by aviators in the 1930's that look more like New Zealand
> than the equator!]
> 
> Mt Kenya in Africa has also suffered extensive glacier retreat this century
> and in fact has lost some glaciers completely.
> 
> Finally, the second lower peak of Kilimanjaro [Mawenzi? sp?] has also lost
> its glacier in the last century.
> 
> Try a university library.  I know one book at the Barr Smith at Adelaide
> uni that has a wonderful collection of photographs of Kilimanjaro going
> back over a century that demonstrate glacier retreat very clearly [I think
> they conclude the retreat has as much to do woth declining precipitation as
> it has with global warming]  Can you telnet to the library, or look up it's
> web page?  A few carefully chosen search terms would surely hit
> something....
> 
> Phil 'Paisley' Bagust
> paisley at cobweb.com.au
> http://www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:36:52 +1000
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Hey all,
	Just got back from a quick little chase through Emerald to 
Belgrave. There is some major activity over the hills up north. Towers 
popping up everywhere. There appeared to be a cluster line of numerous 
cells developing. As Andrew said, there appears to be a cap at about 
6,000ft or about 500-600HPa which is blocking alot of vertical activity. 
However, considering the strength of the updraft (I have yet seen the 
LI's for today), it appears that in the main cluster line, tops are 
reaching above this point, (you were right Andrew!). There is a great 
deal of low level stratocumulus which hinders the possibility of 
observing vertical activity in some spots. I was unable to chase the 
actual storms for I have personal commitments. Bugga! However, those who 
are chasing throughout Victoria today, looks like you guys are going to 
have a fruitful day. Good luck everyone. 

								Deano


Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> Storms firing up all over Victoria at the moment - in addition to the
> Werribee storm mentioned earlier (now falling apart), there are lines/
> clusters over the eastern Latrobe Valley, along the Vic/SA border west
> of Nhill, and in east Gippsland and the Monaro north of Orbost. The
> last of these looks particularly impressive, but is in very remote
> country.
> 
> Also plenty of more scattered activity, especially in the south.
> 
> Blair Trewin
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:48:35 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius [cyclone at flatrate.net.au]
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Hi Dean and all,

Great to see!  But just one little thing, 500-600hPa is a bit higher
than 6,000ft!  Closer to 16,500ft (or 15,000-18,000ft).  I think
Andrew/Jane meant there was also another cap at 6,000ft :)

Dean S wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
>         Just got back from a quick little chase through Emerald to
> Belgrave. There is some major activity over the hills up north. Towers
> popping up everywhere. There appeared to be a cluster line of numerous
> cells developing. As Andrew said, there appears to be a cap at about
> 6,000ft or about 500-600HPa which is blocking alot of vertical activity.
> However, considering the strength of the updraft (I have yet seen the
> LI's for today), it appears that in the main cluster line, tops are
> reaching above this point, (you were right Andrew!). There is a great
> deal of low level stratocumulus which hinders the possibility of
> observing vertical activity in some spots. I was unable to chase the
> actual storms for I have personal commitments. Bugga! However, those who
> are chasing throughout Victoria today, looks like you guys are going to
> have a fruitful day. Good luck everyone.
> 
>                                                                 Deano
> 
> Blair Trewin wrote:
> >
> > Storms firing up all over Victoria at the moment - in addition to the
> > Werribee storm mentioned earlier (now falling apart), there are lines/
> > clusters over the eastern Latrobe Valley, along the Vic/SA border west
> > of Nhill, and in east Gippsland and the Monaro north of Orbost. The
> > last of these looks particularly impressive, but is in very remote
> > country.
> >
> > Also plenty of more scattered activity, especially in the south.
> >
> > Blair Trewin
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From: "Michael Thompson" [michaelt at ozemail.com.au]
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Subject: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx: Victoria possibly in for severe weather?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:07:32 +1100
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Wollongong 0/10

> > After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for
possible
> > severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area
> > rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!!
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:43:25 +1000
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Hi all!

Was just talking to Jane, she has videoed a gustnado!  As well as
several other prongs!  She has confirmed radar observations, with all of
the storms pulsing - but some apear to possibly pulsing in and out of
the severe stage (going by radar).

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BITCHIN!!!!! I think I might have to start chasing with jane to see more
funnels/naders, how much is an airfare to vic? nah hang one how many days
till winter here? :P Please santa ive been soooooooooo good this year.

					Ira Fehloverboard




At 17:43 25/02/00 +1000, Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>Was just talking to Jane, she has videoed a gustnado!  As well as
>several other prongs!  She has confirmed radar observations, with all of
>the storms pulsing - but some apear to possibly pulsing in and out of
>the severe stage (going by radar).
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Kilsyth Storm
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Bit of a storm just came through Kilsyth (outer eastern suburbs of Melbourne), 6mm of rain in 12 minutes between 8.02pm and 8.14pm, not very electrically active, all cc stuff and less than one flash per minute. Its now moving away to the east. Dane.    
025 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:57:51 +1000 From: Don White [donwhite at ozemail.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Re: aus-wx: Victoria possibly in for severe weather? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael - when was the last thunderstorm in wollongong ? don W Michael Thompson wrote: > > Wollongong 0/10 > > > > After having discussed all of the signs - keep your eyes peeled for > possible > > > severe thunderstorms in Victoria this afternoon - ratings - western area > > > rating 6/10, ranges 5/10, Melbourne 4/10!!!! > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 026 X-Sender: disarm at mail.braenet.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:45:00 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matt Smith [disarm at braenet.com.au] Subject: Re: Severe thunderstorm warning for Victoria was Victoria possibly in for severe weather? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Michael - when was the last thunderstorm in wollongong ? >don W Last Century? :) (sorry couldnt help myself Michael :P Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 027 From: "Marty" [martyp at dynamite.com.au] To: "Aussie Weather Mailing List" [aussie-weather at world.std.com] Subject: aus-wx: Fw: NEW RESULTS SHOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS OVER THE OCEANS Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:52:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thought this may be of interest! >David Steitz >Headquarters, Washington DC February 4, 2000 >(Phone: 202/358-1730) > >Diane Ainsworth >Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA >(Phone: 818/354-0850) > >RELEASE: 00-19 > >NEW RESULTS SHOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS OVER THE OCEANS > > Scientists, weather forecasters and the public take >possession of a valuable stream of meteorological and climate >observations this week, as the first calibrated measurements from >NASA's SeaWinds instrument on the Quikscat satellite become >available -- information that can improve weather forecasting >around the world. > > Access to daily wind data and animations from the ocean-wind >tracker, managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), >Pasadena, CA, is available on the Internet at URL: > > http://podaac.jpl.nasa.gov/quikscat/ and at > > http://haifung.jpl.nasa.gov/ > > "We're opening the tap on this global data to the world," >said Dr. Michael Freilich, principal investigator on SeaWinds and >a professor at Oregon State University, Corvallis. The >measurements and data products show developing weather systems >with unprecedented detail. > > "SeaWinds measurements of the direction and strength of the >winds at the ocean surface give us new knowledge that, in >combination with satellite measurements of clouds, temperature and >other data, can be used for understanding how different weather >systems and storms develop, and for predicting weather over the >entire globe." The measurements also are crucial for >understanding ocean currents, climate patterns, and the cyclical >and anomalous variations that occur in those patterns, Freilich >said. > > The heart of SeaWinds is a specially designed spaceborne >radar instrument called a scatterometer. The radar operates at a >microwave frequency that penetrates clouds. This, coupled with >the satellite's polar orbit, makes the wind systems over the >entire world's oceans visible to SeaWinds on a daily basis. The >measurements provide detailed information about ocean winds, >waves, currents, polar ice features and other phenomena, for the >benefit of meteorologists, climatologists, oceanographers and >mariners. > > SeaWinds was launched June 19, 1999, and engineers and >scientists have successfully calibrated the satellite and verified >the accuracy of its data over the past few months. > > "This new knowledge of winds over the oceans is essential for >many oceanographic, meteorological and climate investigations, as >well as for improving regional and global operational weather >predictions," said climate researcher Dr. Ralph Milliff of the >National Center for Atmospheric Research, in Boulder, CO. >"SeaWinds data are eagerly anticipated by these research and >operational communities." > > "Near real-time wind-vector measurements from SeaWinds >represent a vast improvement in coverage over the generally data- >sparse oceans," said SeaWinds science team member Dr. Paul Chang >of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National >Environmental Satellite Data and Information Service. "SeaWinds >data will be used operationally by marine forecasters and for >numerical weather prediction models. These data promise to yield >significant improvements in short-term warnings and forecasts and >in medium- to long-range forecasts." > > The orbiting SeaWinds radar instrument is managed for NASA's >Office of Earth Science, Washington, DC, by JPL, which also >oversaw development of the SeaWinds radar instrument and is >providing ground science-processing systems. NASA's Goddard Space >Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD, managed development of the >satellite, designed and built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies >Corp., Boulder, CO. NOAA is contributing to ground system >processing and distributing SeaWinds data in near-real time to the >international operational weather forecasting community. NASA and >NOAA are working together to transition these critical wind >measurements from research to operational missions to improve the >accuracy of current weather forecasts and to extend forecast >projections from three to five days. > > NASA's Earth Science Enterprise is a long-term research and >technology program designed to examine Earth's land, oceans, >atmosphere, ice and life as a total integrated system. More >information about the Office of Earth Sciences can be found on the >Internet at: > > http://www.earth.nasa.gov > > -end- > > * * * > >NASA press releases and other information are available automatically >by sending an Internet electronic mail message to domo at hq.nasa.gov. >In the body of the message (not the subject line) users should type >the words "subscribe press-release" (no quotes). The system will >reply with a confirmation via E-mail of each subscription. A second >automatic message will include additional information on the service. >NASA releases also are available via CompuServe using the command >GO NASA. To unsubscribe from this mailing list, address an E-mail >message to domo at hq.nasa.gov, leave the subject blank, and type only >"unsubscribe press-release" (no quotes) in the body of the message. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ 028 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:02:01 +1000 From: Dean S [deansgar at alphalink.com.au] X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne Gusta! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all again, I just got back from the city of Melbourne where numerous Cb towers were easily visible over the north-eastern areas. Travelling down to the city by train allowed me to witness many different congestus and various CB Calvus formations. Once I arrived in the city, it was noticable that there was a developing storm overhead which appeared to be stationary or travelling extremely slow. It continued to develop for approximately 20 minutes until the distinguishable sign of a gust front was approaching. At this time I was walking to the Tennis Centre when the gusta came right overhead producing strong wind gusts. Unfortunately, I DID NOT HAVE A BLOODY CAMERA! AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!! It was a really great sight. I was desperate to get a photo asking anyone if they had a camera. Of course my desperate attempts to search for a camera proved fruitless. Overall, a great day today for storms as I observed. I hope many other people experienced the same agilation. Deano +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------

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Updated: 05 March 2000

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