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At 21:58 9/07/00 PDT, you wrote:
>weather:

>In a word, boring

Just like the weather we get here
ChCh  NZ

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Northern Sydney 9:15pm:
Was just treated to a short burst of fairly frequent lightning. The culprit 
was a cell just off the coast (thunder was quite audible),  I would say 
almost due east of my location at Beacon Hill on the northern beaches



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Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:02:09 +1000
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John Gaul wrote:
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> Just like the weather we get here
> ChCh  NZ

I think we get the picture of what you think of NZ/your local area's
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From: "James Chambers" <jamestorm at ozemail.com.au>
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Hi all...thanks for everyone who gave me updates!!!

A very enjoyable short (197km) chase to Beaudesert then Boonah, south a bit,
then Boonah, then Beaudesert then a favourite lookout near my place, then
home.  I'll do up a report soon, but here are some snaps taken off video
that I took:

Boonah lookout: Large cumulus organising, after many piss-poor turkey
efforts:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070001.jpg

Now a Cb a few mins later:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070002.jpg
couple of mins later:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070003.jpg
a congestus to the south:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070004.jpg

The scene from the lookout about 20mins later on wide angle:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070005.jpg
and a shot of the very fibrous anvil heading east
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070006.jpg

Lots of distant CGs in this area, but I couldn't snap any :(
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070007.jpg

About an hour later with a weakened, "gusted-out" appearance: (it was at
this time that I started taking photos of cows, horses)
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070008.jpg

Back to Beaudesert, a major smoke plume - possibly a tyre fire - haven't
heard anything about it.  It was a normal looking fire until the outflow of
the weakened storms reached it - the smoke then went black and spread.
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070008.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070010.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070011.jpg

Back towards Brisbane, and this monster shelf cloud chased me!
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070012.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070013.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070014.jpg

Yes, there were plenty of CGs - the best I've seen for a while:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070015.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/video/2000/v10070018.jpg

I was sent some digital camera pics from Andy:
http://bsch.simplenet.com/seqstorms/photos2/100700/

There were a number of very close strikes at my place when I got back - the
ones with "explosive thunder" when everything rattles after the initial
'jolt' :)

I hope you enjoyed the snaps.

Regards
James Chambers
PS: Who said it was July??

>Hi all
>
>I'm going for a bit of a chase towards Boonah as I have to be at work
>tonight at 6pm.  I would really appreciate some updates - my number is 0416
>180 730.
>
>Of course as soon as it starts getting interesting I'll have to go home,
but
>anyway...
>
>Regards
>
>James Chambers
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From: Harald Richter <hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov>
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Hi all:

The Perth sounding from 10 July (11 UTC) has
some merit for two reasons - the 170 kt (!!) flow at
upper levels, and the significant cooling/destabilisation 
below 500 mb over the preceding 12 hours.

The 14 UTC (Monday night) surface dewpoint is around 10C,
with the sounding hinting at some moisture depth.
Speed shear is pretty good, directional shear is not
quite there.  The caveat: a strong inversion at 500 hPa
might give convection a hard time if it persists.
The inversion is absent from the 11 UTC Albany sounding,
and might thus be a local effect associated with the 
mid-level clouds in the Perth area.

Given some daytime heating some low-topped but vigorous
Cu/TCu might stretch that vorticity just enough for
another funnel or two.  If the mid-level inversion goes,
there might be more. 

Good Luck to those WAs,

Harald



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>From: Andrew Wall <astroman at chariot.net.au>
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>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:56:15 +0930
>
>hey everyone, I have scanned the images of the funnel I saw, it's amazing
>how they don't look the way you remember them hehehe...
>
>you can find them at:
>
>http://sastorms.virtualave.net/images/awall/funnel/1.jpg and go through to
>15.jpg
>
I'd Say that "funnel" you saw was the beginning, or well as far as it got, 
of a "Land Spout"; a rare cousin of the regular tornado.
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Doh! Victoria once again missed out on all the fun, no fair!
Darn frosty this morning, buurrrrr, car was like a iglo!
Next weather for Vic, Wednesday or Thursday.
>From: "Ben Quinn" <bodie2 at optushome.com.au>
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>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 20:26:44 +1000
>
>Hi Anthony, Everyone
>
>Yes it was a great day - lots of Cg's seen - very very enjoyable
>
>I just called the BOM and they said hail was reported at Kingaroy, Gin Gin
>and Woodford - but not sure on the size... there was also a wind gust of 52
>knots recorded at Emerald (on the darling downs or eastern maranoa i think)
>
>I also spoke to my brother in law at Rockhampton who said "there's lots of
>lightning around and very heavy rain" - there is currently a nice line of
>storms on Gladstone radar, which BOM has a warning out for...
>
>Pictures :)
>
>I'll upload more and either Anthony or myself will write up a report ASAP -
>but here are the highlights
>
>This is the guster anthony was talking about - keep in mind that we are
>INSIDE the guster here so to speak - between the leading edge of it and the
>rain curtain - geeze it looked mean - the pictures below are taken looking
>east
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster01.jpg
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster02.jpg
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster03.jpg
>
>And this is the first line of storms that developed - looked quite nice 
>also
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/line02.jpg
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/line01.jpg
>
>The guster wasn't all that nice on this one - but hey it's July - who can
>complain
>
>http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster04.jpg
>
>
>
>
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>From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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>Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 6:41 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Today's Chase
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just a very quick rundown of what happened today...
> >
> > Ben and I headed out along the Cunningham to see what was happening to
> > the west of the Divide...unfortunately, mid level cloud aplenty and
> > limited convection was there, but lots of strong/pulsy convections on
> > the divide itself!  We headed back to Boonah to meet up with James where
> > we were met with a fairly impressive site!  A nice line of storms had
> > formed, and thunder/lightning was audible!  Ben and I quickly darted
> > west to get closer to the storm and got caught up in it...we got
> > moderate and locally heavy rain - with a fair bit of water on the road
> > just to the south of Aratula.  We went back to Boonah, where
> > unfortunately most of the area had turned into rain.  So Ben and I
> > headed up north along Ipswich-Boonah Rd and eventually with some looping
> > about, got into Ipswich with moderate/heavy rain on the Warrego.  We saw
> > some very nice CG's at Ipswich, and then headed back along the Ipswich
> > Mwy and to avoid the traffic snarls took Logan Mwy and then onto the
> > Gateway Mwy.  Unfortunately we didn't have change for the first toll, so
> > to avoid the ~5min queue I decided to throw 2 bucks in ($1.60 total) and
> > give the person behind me 40c less to pay!  Very nice lightning about,
> > and it pissed down (technical crude jargon) for a good part of the
> > journey!
> >
> > We eventually made our way to the bayside suburbs...a little bit of work
> > with heavy traffic (and going over a speed bump at 60km/h - sorry Ben!)
> > The guster was VERY interesting, lots of funnelly type lowerings (as in
> > 20-30 all up) forming and disipatting and moving quite rapidly on the
> > gust front.  A nice shelf to the north visible from Cleveland, and still
> > some good CG's about!
> >
> > That's a very quick wrap up...we'll do a chase report soon!
> >
> > What month is this again??? <g>
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Hi,

Did anyone happen to download and save yesterday afternoon's (10/7) hires
IR NOAA image for NSW/QLD from here:
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/index.html

Please let me know off list.

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At 23:02 10/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
>
>
>John Gaul wrote:
><snip>
>> Just like the weather we get here
>> ChCh  NZ
>
>I think we get the picture of what you think of NZ/your local area's
>weather :-)

It was that I felt so envious reading all you guy's stories/chases on the
thunderstorm activity on the Oz East Coast yesterday.
"You Lucky Bastards" is my usual quote  when such things happen. I say that
when they forecast thunderstorms in Auckland.
MetService are forecasting thunderstorms in Fiordland today but i don't
think I'll bother going away down there just for a few "Cgs" !!! 

John Gaul
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Hi,

Some large storm cells have developed offshore to the SE and have been
moving closer to the coast this morning. Just heard thunder from a cell
approaching Ballina at 9.50am.

Keep an eye on the Grafton local scale radar and the lightning tracker.

Winds are cool and fresh from the SSW at the surface, with scattered
showers about.

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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi Guys,

Just think, this is exactly what SW WA gets on every half decent cold
front (perhaps not always quite so much lightning though).  Yesterday was
absolutely copy book West Coast cold front stuff (not surprising seeing
as it was a cold front - but unusual for us to have enough moisture around
for
this normal development though).

Watching the radar and sky, this guster actually developed as a new line
ahead
of the old decaying line which had moved off the ranges about 3:00pm.  As
it passed Sumner only parts of it were precipitating and it was still
developing.  Precipitation long the entire front had occurred by the
time it reached the eastern suburbs.  I also noticed plenty of scuddy
lowerings with obvious vertical movement but nothing organised.

While we are talking fronts, the cloud and drizzle on Saturday morning
seemed
rather warm frontish to me.  The development was a match, as was the obvious
air mass temp rise at the trailing edge.

John.

>snip

This is the guster anthony was talking about - keep in mind that we are
INSIDE the guster here so to speak - between the leading edge of it and the
rain curtain - geeze it looked mean - the pictures below are taken looking
east

http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster01.jpg
http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/ben/bring-it-on/guster02.jpg
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At 10:57 11/07/2000 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Guys,
>
>Just think, this is exactly what SW WA gets on every half decent cold
>front (perhaps not always quite so much lightning though).  Yesterday was
>absolutely copy book West Coast cold front stuff (not surprising seeing
>as it was a cold front - but unusual for us to have enough moisture around
>for
>this normal development though).

[snip]

I'd have to disagree with it being the same as a WA cold front setup. It
was more a spring or summer pattern of troughs with an upper cold pool
advancing to the NE at the end of the event. Strong pressure broke down
last Thursday and allowed an extensive trough pattern to form.

Perhaps our more experienced weather analysis experts would like to comment
on this synoptic situation. I stand to be corrected, but there was no
evidence of a cold front.


PS. Thunder frequent to my SE at 11.20am.

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>
>Just think, this is exactly what SW WA gets on every half decent cold
>front (perhaps not always quite so much lightning though).


If SW WA were to regularly get anything close what I saw on radar yesterday 
(ie cells going ballistic), particularly the activity around the NSW 
Northwest Slopes and Plains, then I'd be tempted to sell the house and move 
there tomorrow. As Michael said, I think this was more the type of setup (+ 
a few degrees C) we would expect to see in eastern Australia in about three 
months time.
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Hi Michael,

Must say that I was partly taken in by ABC weather last night, which had
a cold front drawn across SE QLD from the low down South, linking to 
a trough line extending north.  I would say though that the passage was 
typical of a cold front surface ob. complete with N to W persistent
wind change, and obvious temp drop.  I notice though that this was not 
shown on the BoM MSLP charts, but is supported by IR imagery.

John.
>snip
>
>Just think, this is exactly what SW WA gets on every half decent cold
>front (perhaps not always quite so much lightning though).  Yesterday was
>absolutely copy book West Coast cold front stuff (not surprising seeing
>as it was a cold front - but unusual for us to have enough moisture around
>for
>this normal development though).

[snip]

I'd have to disagree with it being the same as a WA cold front setup. It
was more a spring or summer pattern of troughs with an upper cold pool
advancing to the NE at the end of the event. Strong pressure broke down
last Thursday and allowed an extensive trough pattern to form.

regards, Michael.


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Hi David,

Perhaps you should count the number of STA's issued by Perth BoM so
far this winter. :)

Certainly at my location there was nothing yesterday that you would not
see in an active cold front.  However, I am willing to admit that the
activity around Coonabarabran & Moree yesterday was something else and
perhaps centered on a forming low which has now moved off the NWNSW coast.
My comments were restricted to my obs here which seem to be good for a fair
arc North to Gladstone at least.

John.
>snip

If SW WA were to regularly get anything close what I saw on radar yesterday
(ie cells going ballistic), particularly the activity around the NSW
Northwest Slopes and Plains, then I'd be tempted to sell the house and move
there tomorrow. As Michael said, I think this was more the type of setup (+
a few degrees C) we would expect to see in eastern Australia in about three
months time.

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Hi John,

you wrote:
>Perhaps you should count the number of STA's issued by Perth BoM so
>far this winter. :)

Too true, although I would be more than interested to see the Perth BoM FAR 
stats ;-)

SW WA gets winter action that we east coasters usually can only dream of. 
Yesterday in northern NSW / Southern OLD, however, was a classic warm season 
situation though - look at the pics/video snaps taken by James and others; I 
was scratching my head wondering what time of year it was, how many 
supercells were out there and how many tornadoes (if any!) touched down. It 
was quite awesome, as I happened to be watching Moree radar at the 
'explosive time' around noon. One minute there were only scattered showers. 
Around 30 minutes later there were cells popping up and going red all over 
the shop.

Dave


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From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Dear all,

I've been adding so much to the MSC Forecasting Page that it has developed
too many subsections, so I've renamed it 'MSC's Weather Cafe'.

I've come across a nifty little Java applet which illustrates the effect
that changes in air temperature and dewpoint have on the condensation level,
and another which allows you to 'build your own congesting cumulus' -
actually, the last time I tried I got it to rain, so I may need to change
the description - and if anyone can get a tornado out of it could you please
let the rest of us know, and I'll change the description to read 'build your
own supercell'......

These are 2 great little demos to play with when you're trying to understand
the interrelationships between atmospheric variables (or alternatively,
suffering from a severe lack of storms while the rest of the country gambols
about amid gust fronts, lightning & funnels).....

Go to 'MSC's Weather Cafe' at
http://www.rubix.net.au/~cadence/forecasting.htm

and go down to the Just for Fun Section....

and then if you really have to, after all of this, you can go to the Weather
Calculator, turn your speakers up loud and play with the 'Cricket Chirps'.

.....what's wrong with my sense of humour Maud???????

Jane
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afternoon everyone!
just heard on the local radio sea fm, gold coast, a  freak wind storm or
something hit nerang at about 1pm today. a ladie was interviewed and said
they had a mini cyclone, pffft amateurs! she said it swept through this
persons house shattering light bulbs and blow everything around and even
shook the cars outside! the S E S has not had any other reports of damage. 
	this sounds very bizarre, there was hardly a breath where i was in
currumbin 10 - 15 kms away. i will try to dig up more details
steve
Steve Baynham
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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:08:11 +1000
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Someone the other day commented on high pressure well south of Tasmania.
Have a look at this massive high at Lat 50S near the Falkland
Islands..1046 Mb.
South America has its east coast lows,too, as the map shows.

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Hi,

I have the first 4 pics from the storms that moved in from Casino to
Lismore and east on Sunday 9th July. The best ones are still in the camera
with the next film (along with Monday's show), but for now:

Starting to look good after just being rather 'wintry looking' prior to
this at 3.53pm
http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0709mb01.jpg

then a few mins later the shelf cloud is starting to form, 3.57pm:
http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0709mb02.jpg

developing really nicely at 4.05pm:
http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0709mb03.jpg

this at 4.10pm just before I took off in the car round the corner to a
better spot:
http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2000/0709mb04.jpg

All taken from Mcleans Ridges about 10km ENE of Lismore, NSW

Much more and better pictures to come..............

regards, Michael


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Hi all,

I am finally back from the storm chase. I must say it was a great day and 
one I will remember as a special event. Firstly because it was winter and 
severe storms are usually quite rare at this time year in NNSW and SE Qld. 
And secondly, it made me feel wierd why I wasn't wearing shorts!!! These 
storms were large and by no means winter. I also believe that it was not 
cold frontal as they developed on a developing trough. Two main lines were 
evident - one over the N coast NSW and SEQld and another where I was 
located. Unfortunately, the trough where I was located did not show until 
the localised explosive activity. Perhaps there were insufficient air 
pressure readings. I think that the 4 hPa charts were useless in picking 
this feature. Thanks for the satpics. I also believe that this event was 
extremely complicated in that drier air moved in later and probably helped 
kick up activity.

Well I left at 4:30am - yes in the morning. I suspected that storms would 
develop from around the 10am mark. They did in a way but much weaker and 
over mountainous regions. Altocumulus castellanus developed from the 
so-called line which was observed just SW of Gunnedah. I remained in the 
area for the next 3 hours. Storms that were developing to the west from 
around 12:30pm became hidden by castallenus but were not major. Panic began 
to set in. Why the hell was I here. Why isn't anything happening. I rang 
Michael twice to see what he can see and even commented "there is nothing 
major happening". By around 1pm, I could only see large cumulus breaking 
the cap to the NW but they didn't look very impressive though I watched 
with interest as they were becoming stronger. At this time, Michael rang 
and suggested "red on radar". What a feeling that was - I was almost 
speechless. However, it was associated with cells further west or NW of the 
cells I was observing.

Within a half an hour of travelling, we stopped at Boggabri. From here I 
could see a major storm hidden behind the main storm. Cells were developing 
literally everywhere. We continued on to Narrabri and within 2km of there 
stopped for a quick photograph. This cell had a flanking line developing 
and maintained its intensity for the whole time I could see it - 1:30pm 
onwards to about 4pm at least. I suspect it was a supercell. There were 
storms right around me on the horizon. Most cells were strong and had 
developed so rapidly that thicker altostratus form of anvils were observed. 
Some storms stretched for about 100km or so. Obviously with so much cold 
air, hail was to be expected. I didn't observe any hail myself but heard a 
couple of reports as follows:

- a car and caravan overturned due to the amount of hail on the road - most 
probably the Coonabarabran major cell
- an area north of Tamworth was mentioned on the local news as having hail 
and strong winds - I would say this was significant event if it was 
mentioned on the news.

As I headed N towards the Moree area, I noticed some storms were weakening 
and the major storm I had observed heading towards Narrabri had crossed the 
road and was heading rapidly east so we turned back to Narrabri. It was 
also a massive cell that seemed to dominate.

All in all, it was a very exciting day but what made it more exciting were 
the phone calls and messages. As the whole area exploded, I has that many 
messages of encouragement, updates, wanting observations of what was 
happening that I was finding it hard to catch up, take more photos and 
video. I looked like "Inspector Gadget" with a camera and video hanging off 
my neck a pen and notepad in my pocket and a mobile phone. I would hate to 
think what cars and semis passing by were thinking. Thanks a lot for all 
that guys. I really wish other people were able to be there but it was a 
working day I suppose. I did take about 30 or more photographs and video 
footage. Hopefully they will come out ok.

I am really glad that the Queensland contingent also went out in force. I 
will attend to your reports upon sending this.

I will put a full report online soon. I will also outline on that report 
some of the errors

Jimmy Deguara
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>I'd have to disagree with it being the same as a WA cold front setup. It
>was more a spring or summer pattern of troughs with an upper cold pool
>advancing to the NE at the end of the event. Strong pressure broke down
>last Thursday and allowed an extensive trough pattern to form.

I sort of agree with that. there's some sort of Jet up there. No frontal
activity from my observations. Colder air meeting with warmer seas.

John Gaul
NZTS/NZACs


>Perhaps our more experienced weather analysis experts would like to comment
>on this synoptic situation. I stand to be corrected, but there was no
>evidence of a cold front.
>
>
>PS. Thunder frequent to my SE at 11.20am.
>
>regards, Michael.
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At 20:37 11/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have the first 4 pics from the storms that moved in from Casino to

>
>regards, Michael
>


Nice pictures Mike


John Gaul
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At 20:08 11/07/00 +1000, you wrote:
>Someone the other day commented on high pressure well south of Tasmania.
>Have a look at this massive high at Lat 50S near the Falkland
>Islands..1046 Mb.


>South America has its east coast lows,too, as the map shows.
>
>http://www-pcmdi.llnl.gov/fiorino/wxmap/avn/archive/2000071100/avn.prp.000.
sam.htm

The anticyclone out to the east of NZ got up to 1037 last Tuesday the 4th
of July not long after it formed and has been maintaining a 1030 hPh
threshold ever since. It is still  hanging around (much to the annoyance of
a few people) I don't know how old the one near the Falklands is. Other
charts don't show it as much tho' ???
The one near the Chathams, now about 7 days old looks set to be there until
the WE at least with possible strenghtening. Must be a record. 


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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:29:06 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Dear all,


The issue is safe travel this year.....btw, re CB radios - do we need to
advertise that we (as a group of enthusiasts) use Channel 33 when on the
road & in the field?  The caravanners advertise that they use Channel
18, truckies & bus drivers (On The Move) use Channel 8, the open channel
(if you can be bothered) is Channel 11 & the emergency is Channel
9.....hmm, spose I just did that.......

......and I know that there's a Vantage Points Database lurking about
somewhere...maybe the info for various states could be fed back to the
reps for local versions as well?

Car stickers? - I have a recently joined member in Victoria who could
help us out here......let me know.

-------------------------------

Have found these sites which could be very useful this year - most give
details of roadworks & road conditions.  

Road Conditions in NSW
http://www.nrma.com.au/Page/Public?PageId=TM_ART_Road_ConditionsP

Road Conditions in Victoria
http://notes.vicroads.vic.gov.au/sai/rtti.nsf/AllInfo/?OpenView

Road Conditions in Queensland
http://www.racq.com.au/framesets/0_journey_roadreport.htm

Road Conditions in NT
http://www.nt.gov.au/dtw/links/roadreport.shtml

Road Conditions in WA
http://www.mrwa.wa.gov.au/realtime/traffic_and_road_conditions.htm

Road Conditions in SA (Northern & Western)
http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/northern.htm

Jane

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Melbourne Storm Chasers
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----- Original Message -----
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at rubix.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:29 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Safe travelling


> Dear all,
>
>
> The issue is safe travel this year.....btw, re CB radios - do we need to
> advertise that we (as a group of enthusiasts) use Channel 33 when on the
> road & in the field?  The caravanners advertise that they use Channel
> 18, truckies & bus drivers (On The Move) use Channel 8, the open channel
> (if you can be bothered) is Channel 11 & the emergency is Channel
> 9.....hmm, spose I just did that.......

Hi Jane,everybody,
You don't really need to advertise when you are on the road, except if you
come into a big town where cb'ers might be on....I know what it's like when
you're talking to someone & people transmit over the top of you......you can
always change channels I suppose.....btw, truckies use chns 29, 30 & 40 on
UHF (it depends on what highway you're on).
A good idea would be to have a CB radio & a UHF.......UHF for the trucks
(great for finding out where the radar units are :-) ) & the cb to keep in
touch with the group.
Ahh well, that's my 2c worth......
John from Ballina


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