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>[snip]

>"This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell, will enhance
>weather forecasting in the Sydney region. Doppler radars used in the
>US and Canada have led to
>noticeable improvements to warnings of severe weather events such as
>thunderstorms," Dr Stone said. "Built at an overall cost of $1.25
>million, the radar tower is 22
>metres high and allows a forecasting range of 150 kilometres."
>[end snip]

WOW only $1.25 Million, seems pretty cheap for the state of the art radar 
system, might go out and buy one after I win X-LOTTO, I wonder if they will 
let me put a 22 meter tower in my back yard.

But Seriously, I would have thought the radar system would cost around 
$6-10 million, considering many of the parts for it would have come from 
overseas and the relative dearness of some electronic components here.

Oh well, lets hope in the future the rest of Australia can be included in 
the Doppler network.

Andrew

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Under-manned, under-dogs and the umpire wore the Essendon jumper.......

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour?/finals football??


> Hi Anthony and all,
> I'm off to melbourne to the preliminary final Carlton v Essendon
> GO THE BLUES!!!!!
> GO THE BLUES!!!!!
> GO THE BLUES!!!!!
> GO THE BLUES!!!!!
> GO THE BLUES!!!!!
>
> actually go anyone BUT Essondon.
>
>
> TM.
>
> >From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
> >Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 06:35:30 +1000
> >
> >Hi Professor!
> >
> >Perhaps we should add kangaroos to the speed bump rule? <GGG>  (TDU99
> >goers will only get this one)
> >
> >I'm off to Sydney for the Broncos-Roosters Grand Final - GO THE
> >BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >Anthony Cornelius
> >
> >clyve herbert wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi supercell!
> > > You are too humble,regards Clyve H
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
> > >
> > > > Hi Jane,
> > > >
> > > > Wouldn't I be embarrassed to be associated with these two nuts!
<bfg>
> > > >
> > > > As Jane said - it was of course out of fun, no one that I know of
> > > > actually practices all of the behaviour there...and I certainly
don't!
> > > >
> > > > AC
> > > >
> > > > MSC - Jane ONeill wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Evening all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was held to ransom by a crazed uni student & an accountant (both
> >of
> > > > > whom shall remain nameless unless you read the page) this
afternoon
> >who
> > > > > demanded that I place the following chaser information on the MSC

> > > > > site....mind you, you will need to carry an entire salt shaker & a
> >pair
> > > > > of rose-coloured glasses & a sense of humour when you read
> >this....MSC &
> > > > > friends take no responsibility for anything at all that appears on
> >the
> > > > > following page....and once again we apologise to the following
> > > > > individuals...
> > > > > residents of Thargomindah (again)
> > > > > police persons
> > > > > residents of NSW
> > > > > governments.........
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2000.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Jane
> > > > > --------------------------------
> > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Wall" <astroman at chariot.net.au>
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> 
> >[snip]
> 
> >"This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell

Does it come with Les Lemon thrown in ???

Les (UK)


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The best part! Grin. Rutherglen. About 40k west of Albury/Wodonga. 45k east
of Yarrawonga. 5-6k south of the Murray river (as the crow flies)

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
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> Bussie, where in NE Victoria are you?
>
> Laurier
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:39:46 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> >I reported last night of hail here about 3mm thick. Weather does some
funny things. about half a kilometre from here the stones were reportedly
nearly as big as your finger nail. It only fell for about a minute here.
> >A bit of heavy rain just passed to the north of here (heading east), just
on the edge of it. 2mm in about 20 min.
> >
> >Bussy (NE Victoria)
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Westona I copped my first "drive by shooting" went through the wall behind
the driver's door and into the passenger compartment. Could write a book on
some of the missiles copped and all the other stuff.
Remember being told about the dust storm that hit Melbourne, can't remember
when it was now, but the blokes were coming up out of the underground and it
was just as dark above ground as it was in the underground. 1983 I think.
Ash Wednesday time frame I think. I went to Melb in 84.

Bussy

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour


> Hi Bussie.
> Yep your right, the train windshields were all modified about 10 years ago
> to be bullet proof after some goose started taking pot shots at drivers
> around Laverton, interesting remedy!, as all the bullets came into the
side
> windows not the front windshield,and the side windows have not been
> modified, in respect to bricks , a brick as big as your hand will merrily
> smash a bullet proof windscreen into pieces and quite often with a huge
> explosion, i have been in the cab with three transit police when a large
> rock sailed through and hit the police sergeant square in the
> forehead!....He required hospital treatment. but back to weather they will
> stop golf ball size hail thats the largest i have encountered. regards
Clyve
> H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
>
>
> > Howdy Clive. Remember though that they weren't real brick proof, unless
> > they,ve changed them.
> > Bussy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 2:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
> >
> >
> > > HI BUSSIE.
> > > At least i don't have to steer my means of transport, although at
115kph
> > it
> > > wont stop like a wheelbarrow, At least my windshields are bullet
proof.
> > best
> > > wishes Clyve H.(bullet proof for hail shafts!).
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 9:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
> > >
> > >
> > > > You guys need professional help!!
> > > >
> > > > But you did forget, School Bus Ahead: The Bus driver will notice the
> > > > Stormchasers coming at terrifying speed and pull over into this zone
> to
> > > > allow them to pass safely.
> > > >
> > > > Note: But not this school bus driver. He will do all he can to beat
> you
> > > > there.......:-)
> > > >
> > > > "Been to Luna Park kids? Like those fast, bumpy, rough rides? Then
> > this'll
> > > > be fun, trust me. Sit down hang on and watch what I can do......."
> > > >
> > > > "Hey, little boy. Can you reach the peddles and steer a bus? I need
to
> > > look
> > > > out the window....."
> > > >
> > > > Anyone seen my medication...........
> > > >
> > > > (Funny stuff though guys. Grin)
> > > >
> > > > Bussy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > > > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 8:45 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Chaser humour
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Evening all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I was held to ransom by a crazed uni student & an accountant (both
> of
> > > > > whom shall remain nameless unless you read the page) this
afternoon
> > who
> > > > > demanded that I place the following chaser information on the MSC
> > > > > site....mind you, you will need to carry an entire salt shaker & a
> > pair
> > > > > of rose-coloured glasses & a sense of humour when you read
> this....MSC
> > &
> > > > > friends take no responsibility for anything at all that appears on
> the
> > > > > following page....and once again we apologise to the following
> > > > > individuals...
> > > > > residents of Thargomindah (again)
> > > > > police persons
> > > > > residents of NSW
> > > > > governments.........
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour2000.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Jane
> > > > > --------------------------------
> > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > --------------------------------
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Where are you Laurier?

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail last night


> Bussie, where in NE Victoria are you?
>
> Laurier
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:39:46 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> >I reported last night of hail here about 3mm thick. Weather does some
funny things. about half a kilometre from here the stones were reportedly
nearly as big as your finger nail. It only fell for about a minute here.
> >A bit of heavy rain just passed to the north of here (heading east), just
on the edge of it. 2mm in about 20 min.
> >
> >Bussy (NE Victoria)
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I'll be generous and "allow" the next one to be in my back yard. With the
small price to be that I get to see what comes from it first..........

Bussy

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:56 PM
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> Hi all.
> One can say its about time i will look forward to the possibility of
seeing
> this device in action ,after all its tax payer funded, i liked the
referral
> in the media release in regards to tracking insect swarms!?,i would rather
> see the tracking of the early stages of a rotating updraft take precedent,
> lets hope all capital cities can benefit from the installation of Doppler
in
> each state soon.
> regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Laurier Williams <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:20 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
>
>
> > This is from a Bureau press release. It will be interesting to see if
> > images become readily available.
> >
> > Laurier
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thursday, 24 August 2000
> >
> > MEDIA RELEASE - HEAD OFFICE
> >
> > 'Gold medal' forecasting for the Games
> >
> > Sydney weather forecasts will become even more accurate, with an
> > enhanced ability to detect and predict thunderstorms and other severe
> > weather during the 2000
> > Olympic Games, when a new radar comes on line today.
> >
> > Sydney's new 'doppler' radar will be commissioned by Dr Sharman Stone,
> > MP, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment and
> > Heritage. This will be the
> > first time a doppler radar has been used by the Bureau of Meteorology
> > for forecasting in Australia.
> >
> > "This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell, will enhance
> > weather forecasting in the Sydney region. Doppler radars used in the
> > US and Canada have led to
> > noticeable improvements to warnings of severe weather events such as
> > thunderstorms," Dr Stone said. "Built at an overall cost of $1.25
> > million, the radar tower is 22
> > metres high and allows a forecasting range of 150 kilometres."
> >
> > Doppler radars generate more information about rainfall and wind
> > patterns than conventional radars and assist meteorologists to more
> > accurately forecast thunderstorms
> > and events such as Sydney's southerly buster.
> >
> > "The new radar will be able to better predict wind shear, aiding the
> > safe operation of Sydney Airport. The radar is so sensitive that it
> > can pick up swarms of insects this will
> > have applications in rural areas in helping to track insect plagues in
> > the near future," Dr Stone said.
> >
> > The new Kurnell radar forms part of the Commonwealth Government's
> > extensive commitment to the Sydney Olympics, Dr Stone said. "$2.7
> > million has been spent by the
> > Bureau to ensure that the Sydney Games has the best possible weather
> > forecasting capabilities to cater for the hundreds of thousands of
> > athletes, officials and spectators
> > that will converge on the city during the Olympic fortnight."
> >
> > "A feature of the Olympic service will be the greater frequency of
> > forecasts. Along with the normal maximum and minimum temperatures,
> > predictions for temperature,
> > rainfall, wind and humidity will be made every three hours."
> >
> > The Bureau has supplemented its normal Sydney forecasting contingent
> > with an additional 20 interstate forecasters and staff for the Games,
> > while two forecasters from
> > Athens will see first hand how Australia's Bureau of Meteorology has
> > prepared for the event.
> >
> > "Today's commissioning of the Kurnell radar will give Sydneysiders
> > up-to-the-minute, accurate and reliable weather information for the
> > Olympic fortnight and well into the
> > future," Dr Stone said.
> >
> > Ends
> >
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:08:34 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Morning all,

Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark for
the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early start
in the afternoons, that's ok by me.

Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
1955Z = 0655AEDST

I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low pressure
system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the MSL
rather than a 'low pressure system'???

....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west of
the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......

UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.

 ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.

Thoughts anyone?

(don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the charts &
images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)

and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO that
we were talking about, it can be found at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Check out the MSC Cafe at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm

ASWA - Victoria
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:20:23 +1000
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Hi all.
Just to add to the claim if the Doppler being able to detect swarms of
insects, we may see a new warning especially on Sundays, i.e. "Weather
insect warning for western Sydney issued at 1300hrs to 1900hrs ---A MASS OF
BLOW FLIES HAVE BEEN DETECTED ON DOPPLER RADAR APPROACHING HOMEBUSH .ALL
PICNICKERS COVER YOUR B.B.Q. AND PUT AWAY YOUR SAUSAGES " regards Clyve H.
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> I'll be generous and "allow" the next one to be in my back yard. With the
> small price to be that I get to see what comes from it first..........
>
> Bussy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:56 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
>
>
> > Hi all.
> > One can say its about time i will look forward to the possibility of
> seeing
> > this device in action ,after all its tax payer funded, i liked the
> referral
> > in the media release in regards to tracking insect swarms!?,i would
rather
> > see the tracking of the early stages of a rotating updraft take
precedent,
> > lets hope all capital cities can benefit from the installation of
Doppler
> in
> > each state soon.
> > regards Clyve H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Laurier Williams <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:20 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
> >
> >
> > > This is from a Bureau press release. It will be interesting to see if
> > > images become readily available.
> > >
> > > Laurier
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thursday, 24 August 2000
> > >
> > > MEDIA RELEASE - HEAD OFFICE
> > >
> > > 'Gold medal' forecasting for the Games
> > >
> > > Sydney weather forecasts will become even more accurate, with an
> > > enhanced ability to detect and predict thunderstorms and other severe
> > > weather during the 2000
> > > Olympic Games, when a new radar comes on line today.
> > >
> > > Sydney's new 'doppler' radar will be commissioned by Dr Sharman Stone,
> > > MP, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment and
> > > Heritage. This will be the
> > > first time a doppler radar has been used by the Bureau of Meteorology
> > > for forecasting in Australia.
> > >
> > > "This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell, will enhance
> > > weather forecasting in the Sydney region. Doppler radars used in the
> > > US and Canada have led to
> > > noticeable improvements to warnings of severe weather events such as
> > > thunderstorms," Dr Stone said. "Built at an overall cost of $1.25
> > > million, the radar tower is 22
> > > metres high and allows a forecasting range of 150 kilometres."
> > >
> > > Doppler radars generate more information about rainfall and wind
> > > patterns than conventional radars and assist meteorologists to more
> > > accurately forecast thunderstorms
> > > and events such as Sydney's southerly buster.
> > >
> > > "The new radar will be able to better predict wind shear, aiding the
> > > safe operation of Sydney Airport. The radar is so sensitive that it
> > > can pick up swarms of insects this will
> > > have applications in rural areas in helping to track insect plagues in
> > > the near future," Dr Stone said.
> > >
> > > The new Kurnell radar forms part of the Commonwealth Government's
> > > extensive commitment to the Sydney Olympics, Dr Stone said. "$2.7
> > > million has been spent by the
> > > Bureau to ensure that the Sydney Games has the best possible weather
> > > forecasting capabilities to cater for the hundreds of thousands of
> > > athletes, officials and spectators
> > > that will converge on the city during the Olympic fortnight."
> > >
> > > "A feature of the Olympic service will be the greater frequency of
> > > forecasts. Along with the normal maximum and minimum temperatures,
> > > predictions for temperature,
> > > rainfall, wind and humidity will be made every three hours."
> > >
> > > The Bureau has supplemented its normal Sydney forecasting contingent
> > > with an additional 20 interstate forecasters and staff for the Games,
> > > while two forecasters from
> > > Athens will see first hand how Australia's Bureau of Meteorology has
> > > prepared for the event.
> > >
> > > "Today's commissioning of the Kurnell radar will give Sydneysiders
> > > up-to-the-minute, accurate and reliable weather information for the
> > > Olympic fortnight and well into the
> > > future," Dr Stone said.
> > >
> > > Ends
> > >
> > > Further information: Simon Frost, tel: 0419 495 468 or (02) 6277 2016
> > >
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:33:21 +1000
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Hi all.
The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather feeble,The
airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and there is the
possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but also over
the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The cloud
mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the low near
Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the possible
development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching rather large
cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Morning all,
>
> Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark for
> the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early start
> in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
>
> Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> 1955Z = 0655AEDST
>
> I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low pressure
> system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the MSL
> rather than a 'low pressure system'???
>
> ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west of
> the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
>
> UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
> VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
> DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
>
>  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the charts &
> images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
>
> and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO that
> we were talking about, it can be found at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
>
> Jane
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> Check out the MSC Cafe at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:56:00 +1000
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I survived. I put my clock forward 1 hour and six minutes. Well everyone
else puts a GST on things so I thought I'd have a go too!
It'll be different picking the kids up on the bus before the sun breaks. If
its daylight saving where do they put it all and what do they do with it? Do
they let some out when its a dull day............

----- Original Message -----
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Morning all,
>
> Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark for
> the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early start
> in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
>
> Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> 1955Z = 0655AEDST
>
> I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low pressure
> system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the MSL
> rather than a 'low pressure system'???
>
> ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west of
> the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
>
> UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
> VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
> DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
>
>  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
>
> Thoughts anyone?
>
> (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the charts &
> images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
>
> and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO that
> we were talking about, it can be found at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
>
> Jane
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
> Melbourne Storm Chasers
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> Check out the MSC Cafe at
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:02:01 +1000
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Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to break
up a bit here at present. 11am

Bussy (NE Victoria)

----- Original Message -----
From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Hi all.
> The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather feeble,The
> airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and there is
the
> possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but also
over
> the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The cloud
> mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the low near
> Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the possible
> development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching rather
large
> cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Morning all,
> >
> > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark for
> > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early start
> > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> >
> > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> >
> > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low pressure
> > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the MSL
> > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> >
> > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west of
> > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> >
> > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
> > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
> > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> >
> >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> >
> > Thoughts anyone?
> >
> > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the charts &
> > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> >
> > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO that
> > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> >
> > Jane
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> >
> > ASWA - Victoria
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:29:18 +1000
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Hi Bussie.
Keep an eye on the mid level cloud band over the northwest of Vic for
development it may push towards northeast Vic: although it seems to be
thinning slightly. regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to break
> up a bit here at present. 11am
>
> Bussy (NE Victoria)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Hi all.
> > The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather
feeble,The
> > airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and there is
> the
> > possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but also
> over
> > the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The cloud
> > mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the low
near
> > Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the possible
> > development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching rather
> large
> > cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards Clyve
H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> >
> >
> > > Morning all,
> > >
> > > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark
for
> > > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early
start
> > > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> > >
> > > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> > >
> > > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low
pressure
> > > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the MSL
> > > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> > >
> > > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west of
> > > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> > >
> > > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
> > > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
> > > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > >
> > >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > >
> > > Thoughts anyone?
> > >
> > > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the charts
&
> > > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> > >
> > > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO that
> > > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> > >
> > > Jane
> > > --------------------------------
> > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > >
> > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:37:55 +1000 (AEST)
From: Jonty Hall <jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au>
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Hi Clyve,

The ability of the radar to detect swarms of insects actually is more
useful than it first sounds. Les Lemon will know more about this than me,
but it has been found that insect swarms tend to be concentrated along
atmospheric boundaries - eg seabreeze fronts, gust fronts etc. This can be
extremely useful if there is no other obvious means of detection, for
example a cloud free mesoscale boundary of some type - in Australia we
have pretty much Buckley's chance of detecting them given our rather
sparse obs network. Recent research IMO is revealing an increasing
awareness of the importance of such boundaries to thunderstorm evolution
and tornadogenesis.

Cheers,

Jonty. 

____________________________________________________________________

Jonty Hall                   jdh at vortex.shm.monash.edu.au

CRC for Southern Hemisphere Meteorology
Monash University
Wellington Road,
Clayton, Vic   3168

Ph +61 3 9905 9684

____________________________________________________________________

On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, clyve herbert wrote:

> Hi all.
> Just to add to the claim if the Doppler being able to detect swarms of
> insects, we may see a new warning especially on Sundays, i.e. "Weather
> insect warning for western Sydney issued at 1300hrs to 1900hrs ---A MASS OF
> BLOW FLIES HAVE BEEN DETECTED ON DOPPLER RADAR APPROACHING HOMEBUSH .ALL
> PICNICKERS COVER YOUR B.B.Q. AND PUT AWAY YOUR SAUSAGES " regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:02 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
> 
> 
> > I'll be generous and "allow" the next one to be in my back yard. With the
> > small price to be that I get to see what comes from it first..........
> >
> > Bussy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
> >
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > > One can say its about time i will look forward to the possibility of
> > seeing
> > > this device in action ,after all its tax payer funded, i liked the
> > referral
> > > in the media release in regards to tracking insect swarms!?,i would
> rather
> > > see the tracking of the early stages of a rotating updraft take
> precedent,
> > > lets hope all capital cities can benefit from the installation of
> Doppler
> > in
> > > each state soon.
> > > regards Clyve H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Laurier Williams <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:20 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
> > >
> > >
> > > > This is from a Bureau press release. It will be interesting to see if
> > > > images become readily available.
> > > >
> > > > Laurier
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thursday, 24 August 2000
> > > >
> > > > MEDIA RELEASE - HEAD OFFICE
> > > >
> > > > 'Gold medal' forecasting for the Games
> > > >
> > > > Sydney weather forecasts will become even more accurate, with an
> > > > enhanced ability to detect and predict thunderstorms and other severe
> > > > weather during the 2000
> > > > Olympic Games, when a new radar comes on line today.
> > > >
> > > > Sydney's new 'doppler' radar will be commissioned by Dr Sharman Stone,
> > > > MP, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for the Environment and
> > > > Heritage. This will be the
> > > > first time a doppler radar has been used by the Bureau of Meteorology
> > > > for forecasting in Australia.
> > > >
> > > > "This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell, will enhance
> > > > weather forecasting in the Sydney region. Doppler radars used in the
> > > > US and Canada have led to
> > > > noticeable improvements to warnings of severe weather events such as
> > > > thunderstorms," Dr Stone said. "Built at an overall cost of $1.25
> > > > million, the radar tower is 22
> > > > metres high and allows a forecasting range of 150 kilometres."
> > > >
> > > > Doppler radars generate more information about rainfall and wind
> > > > patterns than conventional radars and assist meteorologists to more
> > > > accurately forecast thunderstorms
> > > > and events such as Sydney's southerly buster.
> > > >
> > > > "The new radar will be able to better predict wind shear, aiding the
> > > > safe operation of Sydney Airport. The radar is so sensitive that it
> > > > can pick up swarms of insects this will
> > > > have applications in rural areas in helping to track insect plagues in
> > > > the near future," Dr Stone said.
> > > >
> > > > The new Kurnell radar forms part of the Commonwealth Government's
> > > > extensive commitment to the Sydney Olympics, Dr Stone said. "$2.7
> > > > million has been spent by the
> > > > Bureau to ensure that the Sydney Games has the best possible weather
> > > > forecasting capabilities to cater for the hundreds of thousands of
> > > > athletes, officials and spectators
> > > > that will converge on the city during the Olympic fortnight."
> > > >
> > > > "A feature of the Olympic service will be the greater frequency of
> > > > forecasts. Along with the normal maximum and minimum temperatures,
> > > > predictions for temperature,
> > > > rainfall, wind and humidity will be made every three hours."
> > > >
> > > > The Bureau has supplemented its normal Sydney forecasting contingent
> > > > with an additional 20 interstate forecasters and staff for the Games,
> > > > while two forecasters from
> > > > Athens will see first hand how Australia's Bureau of Meteorology has
> > > > prepared for the event.
> > > >
> > > > "Today's commissioning of the Kurnell radar will give Sydneysiders
> > > > up-to-the-minute, accurate and reliable weather information for the
> > > > Olympic fortnight and well into the
> > > > future," Dr Stone said.
> > > >
> > > > Ends
> > > >
> > > > Further information: Simon Frost, tel: 0419 495 468 or (02) 6277 2016
> > > >
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From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
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Les(UK) wrote:

> Does it come with Les Lemon thrown in ???

LOL........I don't believe it does......unless I missed something.  I do
wish I could come along with it for a while <S>.

Les
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From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
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 Les (UK) wrote:

> > >"This new $1.25 million radar, to be located at Kurnell
> 
> Does it come with Les Lemon thrown in ???
> 
I would love to provide training.  I have taught 5-week, 4-week, and
two-day seminars on the use of Doppler radar and its application to all
kinds of weather but with emphasis on convective storms.  So both the UK
Les (I am sure) and the US Les would be glad to come along.  <G>!

Les
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From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon)
Date: 27 Aug 00 12:48:26 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Introduction, and a little weather report from Tassie. 
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Hello All.

I just subscribed last weekend, a day before leaving for Tasmania (gee, I ipck
a good time to get on a new list! :) ).  Thought I'd post a brief introduction,
and then a few notes on the weather encountered.  What brought me here was
meeting an online aquaintance for the first time at a party last weekend. Turns
out he's a storm chaser, so we had a long conversation about the weather (which
isn't hard to do in Melbourne!  :) ), and he pointed me to the ASWA web site.

I'm in Melbourne and I've been interested in weather as long as I can remember.
As a kid, I used to watch the weather report and take daily rainfall readings
for 10 years (basically until I left home) and took note of interesting weather
patterns.  My other major interests though are amateur radio and the Internet
(actually, these 3 aren't a bad mix :) ).  I also had the pleasure of
experiencing the recent storm over the north-west suburbs (the tornado was
within 2km of here), an event worth turning the TV off for. :-)

This last week, I've been in Tasmania on holidays, and missed whatever happened
in Melbourne with the system that's been passing through (and which looked
_very_ unusual to me), but anyway, what I've been having for the past week or
so:

Monday Aug 21 (Melbourne to Devonport via sea) - Boarded the Spirit of Tasmania
in overcast conditions.  Weather remained overcast for the rest of the evening.
Seas were calm inside the bay and only around 0.5m in Bass Strait, with a
smooth ride for the whole night.  Apparently, the following southbound trip on
the Wednesday night, which I almost wound up on was rather rough and caused
some engine damage and 1 hour's delay.

Tuesday Aug 22 (Devonport - Hobart via Pt Arthur).  Arrived in Devonport in
almost overcast conditions which persisted until around Launceston, where the
weather changed to a showery pattern.  Snow was observed on one peak to the SE
of Launceston.  The showers intensified as we moved south towards Hobart, with
the classic "snowy" characteristic.  From vantage points in Pt Arthur, could
see showers moving westwards.  The HF radio was setup on 7.085 MHz for comms
back to Melbourne.  No lightning static was heard during the daylight hours.

Wed August 23 (Hobart to Bronte Park, Central Tas).  Showers from the east
persisted over Hobart with short sunny breaks in between.  Snow was observed on
Mt Wellington down to about 500m.  Left Hobart for Bronte Part around 1PM, the
showers becoming less frequent with long sunny breaks between New Norfolk and
Ouse, then conditions became overcase with frequent light showers.  No further
snow was sighted.  Overnight, the weather remained showery with drizzle in
between.  Radio conditions were again quiet until late in the afternoon on
7.085 MHz, but by 8PM, during a sked with Melbourne on 3.565 MHz, lightning
static was so severe that communication was almost impossible (where was that
lightning striking?).  After the sked, setup again for 7 MHz for the next day,
and noticed severe static there as well.

Thurs August 24 (Bronte Park to Queenstown).  Left early in the morning for
Queenstown in persistent drizzle and a stiff easterly.  Drizzle persisted until
the western edge of the National Park, about 30km east of Queenstown.  From
there and for the rest of the day, conditions were fine and overcast with a
light wind.  Snow was observed on several peaks over 1000m.  Radio conditions
were again quiet during the day with severe lightning static on 7 MHz after
dark.  Saw reports on the news of record snowfalls on the Tasmanian ski resort,
which caused problems and stranded many people.

Friday August 25 (Queenstown to Boat Harbour).  Basically, fine and sunny all
day for the run north.  Again, snow observed on several peaks over 1000m.  At
4PM, after arrival at Boat Harbour on the north coast, a cloud mass came over
from the southeast and it rained heavily over a wide area for about 90 minutes.
By 7PM, the cloud had cleared and didn't return.  Radio conditions were quiet
during the day and only mild static at night.

Saturday August 26 (Boat Harbour to Devonport to Melbourne).  Fine and sunny,
was rather warm inside the car, and only a light breeze from the south outside.
Radio conditions to 1PM were quiet (shutdown after 1PM).  Boarded the ferry at
2PM and departed Devonport at 4PM.  Conditions remained fine and clear until
well into the night.  Snow was visible on mountains to the south.  It appeared
there were significant snowfalls in the mountains south of Devonport during the
previous 4 or 5 days.

Sunday August 27 (Arrival in Melbourne).  Woke up at 3:20 (2:20 standard time)
as the Spirit of Tasmania entered the Port Phillip Heads.  Sky was overcast by
this time, and remained so until 7AM.

Anyway, that's my lot for now.  Skimming the old messages, it seems I may have
missed some interesting stuff though.  I'll probably lurk unless something
really interesting (like another tornado, perhaps? :) ) happens...

Tony, VK3JED
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From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney's doppler radar commissioned
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Jonty wrote:
 
> The ability of the radar to detect swarms of insects actually is more
> useful than it first sounds. Les Lemon will know more about this than me,
> but it has been found that insect swarms tend to be concentrated along
> atmospheric boundaries - eg seabreeze fronts, gust fronts etc. This can
be
> extremely useful if there is no other obvious means of detection, for
> example a cloud free mesoscale boundary of some type - in Australia we
> have pretty much Buckley's chance of detecting them given our rather
> sparse obs network. Recent research IMO is revealing an increasing
> awareness of the importance of such boundaries to thunderstorm evolution
> and tornadogenesis.

Yes, you are quit right.  Water has a dielectric constant near unity which
means it is a rather good conductor and it is an excellent reflector. 
Knowing that biological targets, sometimes referred to as "atmospheric
plankton", are 90%+ water, they are good reflectors.  Birds, are of course,
equally good but much larger targets.  Both greatly augment the detection
of boundaries.  These boundaries are linear regions of atmospheric 
convergence and and as such bring insects along.  Where there are insects
there are often feeding birds.  

When we first began using NEXRAD and discovering all it could do, I called
it "A New Window on the Atmosphere" because we were illuminating so much
that had never before been "seen".  We can, indeed, detect all kinds of
boundaries (even "river" breezes).  But now etymologists and ornithologists
are using the radar to study these biological targets.  Moreover, I am now
working on an algorithm for NEXRAD weather radar that will automatically
detect birds and alert aircraft pilots for the purpose of avoiding
aircraft-bird collisions.  In a similar manner, I believe the radar can be
used to deliver insecticides while swarms of locusts are still airborne and
before they land to devour crops.  Additionally, we can easily detect fires
and smoke plumes from those fires and volcanic eruptions.  Don Burgess and
myself examined the radar returns after the fact from the bombing in
Oklahoma City, and found that the Oklahoma City radar did indeed, detect
the explosion.

Apart from that, some radar's like NEXRAD can also detect what is called
"Bragg Scattering" which is created by refractive index gradients.  Using
that, we can detect atmospheric inversions, cloudless convective currents,
some clouds, and other atmospheric phenomena.  We are learning more and
more about the applications of the newer, low noise, and high power radars.

So, the bottom line, depending on the sensitivity of the radar, the
transmitted power, low system noise levels, and other factors, it can be
used for a wide variety of applications.

Les

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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
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Thanks Clive.

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Hi Bussie.
> Keep an eye on the mid level cloud band over the northwest of Vic for
> development it may push towards northeast Vic: although it seems to be
> thinning slightly. regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to
break
> > up a bit here at present. 11am
> >
> > Bussy (NE Victoria)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> >
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > > The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather
> feeble,The
> > > airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and there
is
> > the
> > > possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but
also
> > over
> > > the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The
cloud
> > > mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the low
> near
> > > Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the possible
> > > development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching rather
> > large
> > > cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards
Clyve
> H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > >
> > >
> > > > Morning all,
> > > >
> > > > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > > > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the dark
> for
> > > > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early
> start
> > > > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> > > >
> > > > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > > > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > > > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> > > >
> > > > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low
> pressure
> > > > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the
MSL
> > > > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> > > >
> > > > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west
of
> > > > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> > > >
> > > > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W OF
> > > > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS
> > > > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > >
> > > >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts anyone?
> > > >
> > > > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the
charts
> &
> > > > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> > > >
> > > > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO
that
> > > > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> > > >
> > > > Jane
> > > > --------------------------------
> > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > >
> > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > >
> > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > >
> > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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> & the plane spotters were all out at the end of the runway with their
> thermoses.

Hey!

I resemble that remark.....

:-)

Chris



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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi all.
Some nice cold air CBs around Central Victoria today, with isolated
discharges, just had about half hour of good showers some up to 40mm/ hour,
all up 14.5mm at Leopold in that time, also some very photogenic cells over
Bass Strait at sunset............yippee. Regards Clyve H.
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> Thanks Clive.
>
> Bussy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Hi Bussie.
> > Keep an eye on the mid level cloud band over the northwest of Vic for
> > development it may push towards northeast Vic: although it seems to be
> > thinning slightly. regards Clyve H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> >
> >
> > > Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to
> break
> > > up a bit here at present. 11am
> > >
> > > Bussy (NE Victoria)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi all.
> > > > The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather
> > feeble,The
> > > > airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and there
> is
> > > the
> > > > possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but
> also
> > > over
> > > > the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The
> cloud
> > > > mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the
low
> > near
> > > > Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the
possible
> > > > development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching
rather
> > > large
> > > > cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards
> Clyve
> > H.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > > > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Morning all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > > > > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the
dark
> > for
> > > > > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an early
> > start
> > > > > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > > > > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > > > > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low
> > pressure
> > > > > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on the
> MSL
> > > > > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> > > > >
> > > > > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the west
> of
> > > > > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> > > > >
> > > > > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W
OF
> > > > > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED
THUNDERSTORMS
> > > > > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > >
> > > > >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thoughts anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the
> charts
> > &
> > > > > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> > > > >
> > > > > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the CSIRO
> that
> > > > > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > Jane
> > > > > --------------------------------
> > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:54:30 +1000
From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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this was the "...a Tupperware party? You've gotta be kidding!!! - I'm
going storm chasing" chase.

Fortunately Lu is well aware that if there are congesting anythings
within 400kms, it's absolutely impossible to keep me in one place - so
she gave up and wished me luck.  Andrew McDonald found me in Kew - I had
been wandering slowly westward after this morning's indicators had made
it impossible for me to stay home.  I ended up west of Bacchus Mash on
the Western Highway with great views.  There were anvils to the NW, W &
through S, but by far the strongest was the one to the S -  it had a
very strong updraft and a cumuliform anvil - so we had a case of
'chaser chasing' resulting in 'chaser convergence' at a petrol station
60kms later (I came from the west & he came from the east - and I think
he drove faster than me - or stopped for fewer photos).

We found ourselves a viewing spot west of Geelong which allowed us to
see from the W right round to the NE & stayed there for an hour & a half
watching cold Cbs, lowerings, rain shafts, anvils, updrafts, listening
to lightning on the radio (but not seeing it) until Andrew decided that
he had an appointment with the trains in Kyneton & we parted.  I
continued following one of the cells and was rewarded with a solid
40-100mm/hr shower, water over the road & significant runoff.

All in all a very pleasant way of spending an afternoon and early
evening....maybe daylight savings wasn't so bad after all <g>
.....a few pics can be seen at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/27_08_00.htm

Thanks to all those who gave us radar updates through the afternoon -
trying to find anyone at home today was virtually impossible - everyone
seemed to be in a different state or were themselves out chasing<g>.

Enjoy!!

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Check out the MSC Cafe at
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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:06:55 +1000
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1mm here at about 6.50pm. Short and sweet. (Rutherglen)

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA


> Hi all.
> Some nice cold air CBs around Central Victoria today, with isolated
> discharges, just had about half hour of good showers some up to 40mm/
hour,
> all up 14.5mm at Leopold in that time, also some very photogenic cells
over
> Bass Strait at sunset............yippee. Regards Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Thanks Clive.
> >
> > Bussy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> >
> >
> > > Hi Bussie.
> > > Keep an eye on the mid level cloud band over the northwest of Vic for
> > > development it may push towards northeast Vic: although it seems to be
> > > thinning slightly. regards Clyve H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:02 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to
> > break
> > > > up a bit here at present. 11am
> > > >
> > > > Bussy (NE Victoria)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather
> > > feeble,The
> > > > > airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and
there
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but
> > also
> > > > over
> > > > > the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The
> > cloud
> > > > > mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the
> low
> > > near
> > > > > Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the
> possible
> > > > > development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching
> rather
> > > > large
> > > > > cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards
> > Clyve
> > > H.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > > > > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> > > > > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Morning all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > > > > > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the
> dark
> > > for
> > > > > > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an
early
> > > start
> > > > > > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > > > > > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > > > > > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low
> > > pressure
> > > > > > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on
the
> > MSL
> > > > > > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the
west
> > of
> > > > > > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W
> OF
> > > > > > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED
> THUNDERSTORMS
> > > > > > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts anyone?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the
> > charts
> > > &
> > > > > > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the
CSIRO
> > that
> > > > > > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jane
> > > > > > --------------------------------
> > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney Wx
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:26:40 +1000
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<DIV>I had my eye on this one from Kiama. Very high based, wind was light east 
early afternoon but changed to moderate west when these weak Cu moved through. 
Glaciation&nbsp;occurred at very low levels again. <BR><BR>Drove south to 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Weak 
  thunderstorm cell NE of Wollongong at 1500 - one lightning strike recorded 
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