From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 00:03:04 +1000
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YYYYYYyyyyyyyyeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....

Congratulations Broncos you little bewdies, loveit when we whip the southern
poofta's.


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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi All,

Our first official 30C day (Ipswich), not bad for August but well short of
the August record (33.4C).  Big Temp Range too, 0C..30C indicating very dry
air, 22% RH around midday.  My readings at Mt. Crosby were 7C..26C at the
house and 2.5C to 30.5C at the bottom of the drive (14C and 9.5C
respectively at 11:00pm).  Tomorrow Ipswich forecast is 30C again with
possible afternoon storm (bring it on - but I am not hopeful, the air is way
too dry).

Now here's a curious thing... I have noticed the last 3 days, that strong
Westerleys have been forecast 25 to 30KN, and sure enough, the last two days
it has howled and today it was fresh at times.  But...  The winds peaked at
around 2:00pm dying away to dead calm at night, only to crank up around
10:00am again.  Why is this so I wondered...  as I had initially expected
the opposite, with the midday land/sea differential acting to inhibit the
Westerly, if not actually cause an Easterly sea breeze.   Observation of
cloud movement showed mid level cloud scudding across the sky at pretty much
the same speed irrespective of surface wind velocity.

My conclusion is that at night, cooling at the surface produces a dense
stable layer, and the westerlies deflect over the top of it.  Daytime
heating at the surface causes the air to rise to be replaced by the westerly
stream....

Any advance on this?

John.

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From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon)
Date: 28 Aug 00 00:18:50 +1000
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Hello Chris.

27 Aug 00 16:13, you wrote to All:

 >> & the plane spotters were all out at the end of the runway with
 >> their thermoses.
 CD>
 CD> Hey!
 CD>
 CD> I resemble that remark.....

Hahaha, I just have to stick my head out the door and look up. ;-)

Tony

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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:46:52 -0400
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Just a beautiful view and shot, Jane.  Wonderful.  So, how much do these
homes with a view, cost?

les

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Blackheath, Bussie, which is the highest village in the Blue
Mountains, 100km west of Sydney. Altitude 1067m, and on a north/south
ridge that frequently marks the boundary of westerly and easterly
weather. Temperatures are usually 8 degrees or so cooler than Sydney,
we get strong winds and snow, which has led unsympathetic people to
christen the town "Bleakheath", or to remove the first and last
letters to be known as "Lackheat". For all these reasons, plus
fabulously clear, crisp mornings, and the benefit of four distinct
seasons each year, I love the place.

Laurier


On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:58:52 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
wrote:

>Where are you Laurier?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Laurier Williams <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:38 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail last night
>
>
>> Bussie, where in NE Victoria are you?
>>
>> Laurier
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:39:46 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I reported last night of hail here about 3mm thick. Weather does some
>funny things. about half a kilometre from here the stones were reportedly
>nearly as big as your finger nail. It only fell for about a minute here.
>> >A bit of heavy rain just passed to the north of here (heading east), just
>on the edge of it. 2mm in about 20 min.
>> >
>> >Bussy (NE Victoria)
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Hi all,

This early morning about 2:30am, me from Golden Grove, 25km NE of
Adelaide, South Australia, I heard noisy on the roof, went to look thru
window and went woah, driving heavy rain and high wind. Where that come
from???? Radar show nothing much elsewhere apart from here where we got
something, radar is just stuffy up. The cell went thru here as radar
shown, just dark blue, light blue and yellow. Driving heavy rain and
high wind last for about 5 to 10 minutes approx.

On Internet Briefing service (Aviation for our area of area 50)
Date: 27-Aug-2000 1731 UTC
 AMD OVERVIEW:
       TROUGH NEAR CLEVE TO 50 NM SOUTHWEST OF MOUNT GAMBIER AT 11Z,
MOVING
       EAST AT 15 KNOTS TO BE NEAR WHYALLA TO NARACOORTE AT 17Z AND NEAR

       RENMARK BY 23Z.
       ISOLATED SHOWERS, MORE FREQUENT SOUTH OF KINGSTON TO ADELAIDE TO
       LAMEROO. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS SOUTHEAST OF KINGSTON TO ADELAIDE
TO
       LAMEROO, CONTRACTING EAST AT 10 KNOTS. BROKEN STRATUS IN
       PRECIPITATION. ISOLATED FOGS OVER LAND TILL 01Z.

ISOL CB 3000/26000 SE OF KINGSTON TO ADELAIDE TO LAMEROO CONTRACTING
         EAST AT 10 KNOTS.

SCT CU 2500/9000 N KINGSTON TO ADELAIDE TO LAMEROO, BKN WITH OCNL
         TOPS TO 22000 IN SH.
        BKN CU 2500/9000 S KINGSTON TO ADELAIDE TO LAMEROO, OCNL TOPS TO

         22000 IN SH

Amazing. I hope we might get something more good one.

Sat pic look alright though.

Centre of the low pressure currently over SE of SA moving NE. There are
few cell over South of Adelaide.

Atmosphere sounding look great!!! This data are updated at 1200Z 27 AUG
00
1000-500 mb thick:      5400.00 m
700-500 lapse rate:        7.28 C/km
Cap Strength:              0.72 C
Lifted Index:              0.14 C Risk: Showers probable
Lifted Index  at 300 mb:     14.18 C
Lifted Index  at 700 mb:     -0.56 C
Showalter Index:           2.43 C Risk: Showers probable
Total Totals Index:       53.90 C Risk: Scattered heavy thunderstorms
K Index:                  26.20   Risk: 40-60 % chance of thunderstorms

I am sure there are possible good one for the morning one mostly.

From Nathan.
philmed at health.on.net
http://www.geocities.com/tiggertoo_au/index.html

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From: "Les Crossan" <les.crossan at virgin.net>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:54 AM
Subject: aus-wx: CHASE: Victoria


> this was the "...a Tupperware party? You've gotta be kidding!!! - I'm
> going storm chasing" chase.


Nice pix, Jane.... (:

Les (UK)

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Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mario Paul <stormtwist at yahoo.com>
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THIS IS A WEATHER LIST!!!
KEEP YOUR VULGAR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF YOU REDNECK
MARIO



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> Congratulations Broncos you little bewdies, loveit
> when we whip the southern
> poofta's.
> 
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Just think on the bright side. 8 degrees cooler on a 40 deg day. Grin.
Sounds a grouse spot. Sounds like here. But no where near your height. One
bloke commented that he's been all over the world and this place is the only
place where you can grow oranges and the alps are only 50 miles away. His
words, not mine. Stick in the mud me. We've got the prettiest country in the
world I reckon.

incredible 9 deg overnight here, should be closer to zero.

Bussy

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> Blackheath, Bussie, which is the highest village in the Blue
> Mountains, 100km west of Sydney. Altitude 1067m, and on a north/south
> ridge that frequently marks the boundary of westerly and easterly
> weather. Temperatures are usually 8 degrees or so cooler than Sydney,
> we get strong winds and snow, which has led unsympathetic people to
> christen the town "Bleakheath", or to remove the first and last
> letters to be known as "Lackheat". For all these reasons, plus
> fabulously clear, crisp mornings, and the benefit of four distinct
> seasons each year, I love the place.
>
> Laurier
>
>
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:58:52 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> >Where are you Laurier?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Laurier Williams <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 6:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hail last night
> >
> >
> >> Bussie, where in NE Victoria are you?
> >>
> >> Laurier
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:39:46 +1000, "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I reported last night of hail here about 3mm thick. Weather does some
> >funny things. about half a kilometre from here the stones were reportedly
> >nearly as big as your finger nail. It only fell for about a minute here.
> >> >A bit of heavy rain just passed to the north of here (heading east),
just
> >on the edge of it. 2mm in about 20 min.
> >> >
> >> >Bussy (NE Victoria)
> >>
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Hi everyone,
for anyone that is interested or cares,i have had to change my URL because 
of storage allocation limits.So now my page can be found at
http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/index.htm
    or
www.anvilindustries.com          (i hope)

all new updates etc will be at this address so please update any links 
etc.and let me know if there are things not working correctly.

thanks

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From: "Peter Matters" <pmatters at eck.net.au>
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Hi all,
       Mt Wombat 20klms se of Euroa (elevation 2617, Grid:145.7E 36.8S)has
360deg views. Being in the Strathbogies it would be a lightning hotspot with
2 enormous communication twrs.
Peter Matters

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Just a beautiful view and shot, Jane.  Wonderful.  So, how much do these
homes with a view, cost?

les

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<DIV><FONT size=2>HEy everyone</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It was nice and sunny here at about 9:30am and then very dark 
cloud cover came over. It lightly started raining before it pouring down. Then 
then thunder came with a very close strike to here at Blaxland. It seemed to 
lighten up before the hail came with that ever familiar tink sound. The hail was 
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sydney 1045
So far 5 bolts seen from system to w-nw moving ese over western sydney at 
present, some very nice deep echoey booms, DEEP BASS :)... big billowage to 
the nw and some pink on radar just north of richmond, and its moving this 
way :)).. my education draws the short straw again, oh well hehe...

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11.49am 28/08	

Heavy Rainfall just now, high winds. If this type of rain continues too
long Macquarie River will start to flood parts of Bathurst.  Had a look
at river yesterday and was flowing quite well just from rain during
week. 

Gutters already overflowing here.. 

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Glenorie 1145
   Saw a great gust front lit up by the morning sun as the storm rolled 
right over us with heavy rain close bolts and a shitload of tiny hail!, 
dumped 6mm in one 5 minute stretch, storms now over hornsby south to 
bankstown can still here the thunder from here, and also more now from a new 
system (more pink bits) that has developed up over the hawkesbury river area 
near wisemans ferry, NEW 4cast, isolated tstorms with small hail clearing in 
evening. The 'boom guy' (the bloke who fires his air gun whenever hail is 
around) wasted no time in dusting off his prized giant flatulating machine 
for the first time since last season to try and save his crops (anyone know 
if these things work, cause if they do im going around there with a 
sledgehammer!)..... Rune
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I second this congratulations!

Mum and I planned several months ago to goto the Grand Final - and it
was well worth the nailbiting through the semis/finals to see them into
the Grand Final!!!

Just a shame the weather couldn't have came yesterday instead of today
to Sydney :-(

AC

John Woodbridge wrote:
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> YYYYYYyyyyyyyyeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
> 
> Congratulations Broncos you little bewdies, loveit when we whip the southern
> poofta's.
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Wollongong 10:45 AEST (Sydney 2000 Daylight time)

Interesting effect along the coast this morning. A very cold, moist SE flow which is only around 200m asl (thick) is flowing under a warmer, dryer, NNW flow. The result has been some heavy showers at work here at Port Kembla, and some nice looking Cu from the steam stacks from the steelworks. They top out around 1000m asl. Have taken a couple of digital pictures of the steam stacks, and some low topped Cu travelling out to sea.

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Hi John,

What do you think of the new Brisbane site?  It appears to be a fair bit
warmer then the Brisbane AP - the AP was 23C y'day, the CBD 26C.  The
CBD has had quite a few marked temps in the mid 20's over the past
month, where as if my memory serves me correctly, the AP was 2-4C
cooler!  One of the main problems I have with it though, is that the
media are reporting the Brisbane CBD temperatures, but are using the
Brisbane AP averages!!!  So of course, we're getting temperatures "above
average" nearly all the time during the day.  I have a feeling that
Brisbane could very well register a nice 40+ on the new site if we get a
few very hot days (eg, Jan 21/22 this year) - and potentially see a min
around the 30C in very hot and humid conditions.

In regards to the wind calming at night - I've noticed this happen for
many years, the winds tend to be a lot calmer at night (at least, where
I am), then during the day.  Especially westerly winds!  I've never been
able to explain it.  Perhaps the uneven surface heating during the day
plays a part in it.  But I do like your theory in regards to a thin
stable layer with a very large inversion just above the surface...

Anthony Cornelius

John Woodbridge wrote:
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> Hi All,
> 
> Our first official 30C day (Ipswich), not bad for August but well short of
> the August record (33.4C).  Big Temp Range too, 0C..30C indicating very dry
> air, 22% RH around midday.  My readings at Mt. Crosby were 7C..26C at the
> house and 2.5C to 30.5C at the bottom of the drive (14C and 9.5C
> respectively at 11:00pm).  Tomorrow Ipswich forecast is 30C again with
> possible afternoon storm (bring it on - but I am not hopeful, the air is way
> too dry).
> 
> Now here's a curious thing... I have noticed the last 3 days, that strong
> Westerleys have been forecast 25 to 30KN, and sure enough, the last two days
> it has howled and today it was fresh at times.  But...  The winds peaked at
> around 2:00pm dying away to dead calm at night, only to crank up around
> 10:00am again.  Why is this so I wondered...  as I had initially expected
> the opposite, with the midday land/sea differential acting to inhibit the
> Westerly, if not actually cause an Easterly sea breeze.   Observation of
> cloud movement showed mid level cloud scudding across the sky at pretty much
> the same speed irrespective of surface wind velocity.
> 
> My conclusion is that at night, cooling at the surface produces a dense
> stable layer, and the westerlies deflect over the top of it.  Daytime
> heating at the surface causes the air to rise to be replaced by the westerly
> stream....
> 
> Any advance on this?
> 
> John.
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Hi Rune / All ,

Nth Sydney 12:30pm -
Have watched this system pass through the city in the last hour with the 
main area of precip passing through Sydneys Northern Suburbs , not sure of 
amounts yet but will check when I get home !. There was a nice area of green 
/ pink passing through there so the amounts should be good . Her ein Nth 
Sydney well the sun is out and shining as the system is now lying off the 
coast. Some very nice Cgs and CCs to be seen with some very loud thunder as 
Rune pointed out. Well I cant wait for this coming season if this is what we 
get in winter !! Hopefully more to come a little later today as there is now 
a big are of clearing to the West with Cu scattered all round. Li's were 
good at -3 to -6 over Sydney atm and Cape was looking around 600 - 800. Not 
too shabby for winter !
Just had a call from Matt Pearce, h eis out of uni and near Richmond / 
Penrith atm. Please give him a call on his mobile for updates during the 
day. his number is 0417 685 086.
Hears hoping that things get even better later today !

James


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>Glenorie 1145
>   Saw a great gust front lit up by the morning sun as the storm rolled
>right over us with heavy rain close bolts and a shitload of tiny hail!,
>dumped 6mm in one 5 minute stretch, storms now over hornsby south to
>bankstown can still here the thunder from here, and also more now from a 
>new
>system (more pink bits) that has developed up over the hawkesbury river 
>area
>near wisemans ferry, NEW 4cast, isolated tstorms with small hail clearing 
>in
>evening. The 'boom guy' (the bloke who fires his air gun whenever hail is
>around) wasted no time in dusting off his prized giant flatulating machine
>for the first time since last season to try and save his crops (anyone know
>if these things work, cause if they do im going around there with a
>sledgehammer!)..... Rune
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Mona Vale   12.45    Monday.

Short Sharp Thunderstorm with lots of thunder passed over here about
11.30am.  We got 10mls rain and a nice dusting of very small hail.  The
Junior Scottish Terrier is having a ball digging in the remaining hail.  Her
first sighting of the magic white stuff.  Temperature dropped from 19 C to
12 C in a matter of minutes.

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As John has already noted, Amberley had a 30 degree spread (0 min to 30 max)
on Sunday, 27 August 2000. How common is such a difference between minimum
and maximum in the coastal plains?

Regards,


Anthony Spierings
as029 at bigpond.net.au

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Hi all,

Well - if the MLC (Mid Level Crap/Cloud) wasn't bad enough this morning,
the NW'ly is howling now - it was light this morning, but has picked up
considerably recently.  DP's have dropped to around 2-3C, which is
unfortunate, as the MLC has cleared a little and it's 24.3C here at the
moment.  Had DP's been even in the low double figures, the atmosphere
would have been quite conditionally unstable...but alas, it does not
look to be.

Other things to note - SRH for Brisbane today is a nice 440 - although
directional shear at the time of the soundings was poor, the 850mb was
an unheard of 60kn!!!  I've never seen it that strong for Brisbane
before!!!  Although I imagine the southern states would get that
occassionally.

If we had a NE'ly, and moisture...and well, need I say we'd be hearing
about a mini-tornado outbreak in Brisbane :)

The upper levels are very cold, -20C  at  500mb, it does warm up a bit with
an inversion at 450mb.  300mb is -39C which is nothing special - but
500mb temps of -20C and below for us are quite impressive IMO.

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I saw an interesting cloud formation on Brisbane on Saturday about 1 PM
local. As luck would have it, it was when I was driving down to the photo
lab to get some film developed (ie, no film in the camera).

The cloud’s shape (3 of them), for want of a better word, was like a UFO
from the movie Independence Day. There was a rather dry westerly blowing.
Overhead there was cumulus mediocris, which seem to disappear as they went
over Morton Bay. At the point the cumulus ended there where a number of
clouds that looked like altocumulus lenticularis (but not quite). Was the
cumulus being chopped by dry winds top and bottom giving them this shape?
Did any other locals notice similar clouds?

It was also interesting to observe the smoke patterns at sunset on Tuesday
last week. I was on the train going home around sunset. Out over Morton Bay
one could see the smoke from the local bushfires around south Brisbane. The
smoke was clearly moving up and down in air waves as it was pushed out to
sea.

Regards,

Anthony Spierings
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Hi James, Rune and all,

James <jimbohar at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi Rune / All ,
>
>Nth Sydney 12:30pm -
>Have watched this system pass through the city in the last hour with the
>main area of precip passing through Sydneys Northern Suburbs , not sure of
>amounts yet but will check when I get home !.
<snip>

Not sure of exact rainfall amounts James but here in Pymble I can tell you 
it was heavy with some reasonable wind gusts though nothing that would meet 
the 'severe' level. This storm was pretty nice on approach; chunky CGs and 
plenty of turbulence along the gustfront, and quite fast moving.

Things are looking interesting for the coming months. Hopefully Rune's 
neighbour will be kept busy with his caNNon!.


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> 
> 
> As John has already noted, Amberley had a 30 degree spread (0 min to 30 max)
> on Sunday, 27 August 2000. How common is such a difference between minimum
> and maximum in the coastal plains?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Anthony Spierings

Not very, although it's not unusual to see a diurnal range in the 
upper 20s in August/September under the right conditions.

The highest diurnal range on record in district 40 (roughly speaking, SE
Queensland south of Gympie and east of the Darling Downs escarpment)
is 32.9 (31.4/-1.5) on 16 September 1991 at Nanango. Nambour (34.3/2.2)
and Imbil (33.7/2.6) also a range over 30 that day. Amberley's record
is 30.2 (30.2/0.0) on 29 September 1994, and the August record is 30.7
(33.5/2.8) on 27 August 1970 at Brian Pastures. There are a total of
7 days in the record with a diurnal range > 30 somewhere in district
40, all of them in September except for the abovementioned one in
August and one in November. 

The largest diurnal ranges in Australia are recorded in the Eyre 
Peninsula region of South Australia, with the record of 35.0 shared
by Ceduna (39.6/4.6) and Kyancutta (43.3/8.3).

Blair Trewin

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 Boo Hiss....It appears that the trough line moved through around midday.

All storms appear to be now north of us.

Michael

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Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER-Illawarra


> Wollongong 10:45 AEST (Sydney 2000 Daylight time)
>
> Interesting effect along the coast this morning. A very cold, moist SE
flow which is only around 200m asl (thick) is flowing under a warmer, dryer,
NNW flow. The result has been some heavy showers at work here at Port
Kembla, and some nice looking Cu from the steam stacks from the steelworks.
They top out around 1000m asl. Have taken a couple of digital pictures of
the steam stacks, and some low topped Cu travelling out to sea.
>
> Andrew Godsman
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane wx
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> 
> Hi John,
> 
> What do you think of the new Brisbane site?  It appears to be a fair bit
> warmer then the Brisbane AP - the AP was 23C y'day, the CBD 26C.  The
> CBD has had quite a few marked temps in the mid 20's over the past
> month, where as if my memory serves me correctly, the AP was 2-4C
> cooler!  One of the main problems I have with it though, is that the
> media are reporting the Brisbane CBD temperatures, but are using the
> Brisbane AP averages!!!  So of course, we're getting temperatures "above
> average" nearly all the time during the day.  I have a feeling that
> Brisbane could very well register a nice 40+ on the new site if we get a
> few very hot days (eg, Jan 21/22 this year) - and potentially see a min
> around the 30C in very hot and humid conditions.
> 
The differences on very hot days is actually fairly minimal if the old
RO site is anything to go by (and I have no reason to believe that 
there will be a great difference between the old RO site and the new
Brisbane City site). Looking at the difference between the RO and
the airport during the period of overlap (1949-86), on the hottest
days (37+ at the airport), the airport was, on average, 0.6 degrees
cooler than the RO, with the largest difference on any such day being
1.8 degrees. Based on that, I'd expect the frequency of 40+ days
in the city to be comparable to that of 39+ days at the airport - 
roughly a 1 in 10 year event. 

(The difference between the highest recorded temperature at the
airport (39.6) and the RO (43.2) looks a lot bigger than that, but
it needs to be borne in mind that the RO only went over 41.3
twice, in 1902 and 1940, both before the airport site opened, and that
if the airport site had existed in 1940 it might have been expected to
top 40 with a bit to spare).

Minima are more dependent on local site characteristics than maxima
are (although less so for extreme high minima than extreme low minima).
Nevertheless, there is no evidence of a systematic difference on warm
nights between the airport and city (the difference mostly shows in
the winter half of the year in the bottom half of the frequency
distribution); if anything, those nights with 25+ minima suggest that
the airport is marginally (0.2 degrees on average) warmer under those
conditions, although there is a bit of scatter in both directions.
Again, the difference between the highest RO (28.0) and airport (26.1)
minima is a function of length of record, not a systematic difference
between the sites (the 28.0 was also in 1940). I wouldn't rule out
the possibility of a 30+ minimum in Brisbane - the most likely 
scenario being very windy conditions following a very hot day (and the
most likely timing, in my opinion, being November or December) - but
the new site doesn't make it any more likely.

Blair Trewin
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wild weather this early morning affected over my area.
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This early morning about 2:30am, me from Golden Grove, 25km NE of
> Adelaide, South Australia, I heard noisy on the roof, went to look thru
> window and went woah, driving heavy rain and high wind. Where that come
> from???? Radar show nothing much elsewhere apart from here where we got
> something, radar is just stuffy up. The cell went thru here as radar
> shown, just dark blue, light blue and yellow. Driving heavy rain and
> high wind last for about 5 to 10 minutes approx.
> 

What was the story with the system around 5.30-6-ish yesterday 
afternoon? I heard a report of the SA football game on the radio which
referred to torrential rain during the last quarter, but the rainfall
total for Adelaide this morning didn't look that impressive. (I was
en route from Adelaide to Melbourne and managed to miss everything).

Blair Trewin
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Subject: aus-wx: Hail report
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Apparently yesterday at about 3pm there was a good 
drop of hail in Chiltern (about 20k south of Albury/Wodonga on the Hume 
freeway). Slightly smaller than fingernail size and went for about 5 minutes and 
laid on the ground for some time. Here at Rutherglen 17k away, we never even got 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: T'STORMS: Sydney
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Hopefully Rune can smash the cannon b4 the storm season!,, went to tafe 
briefly from 1-1.15pm then looked out the window and saw more nice 
development to west, so i had to leave again!/ it built very aggresively 
over richmond and due north b4 moving east, it came right over the top 
again, this time the rainfall/wind was much heavier but we didnt get any 
hail, about 10 mins worth of cg's all around and still looking for a few 
shirts that were left on the clothesline (anyone see's a shirt floating 
past, return it at next meeting:). After 15mm total for august up to 
yesterday, today has more than doubled it with 17mm in the gauge, and 
hopefully more to come,,, RUNE

>Things are looking interesting for the coming months. Hopefully Rune's
>neighbour will be kept busy with his caNNon!.

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Subject: aus-wx: T'STORMS: HUnter, mid northcoast
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A new severe storm advice has just been issued for the Hunter, Mid-north 
coast etc with a report of 4cm hail from Camden Haven.

Radar looks quite impressive with storms firing all over the place.
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice (2-4cm Hail reported)
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Does anyone have a URL to see the latest radar of this afternoons TStorms?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

A new severe storm advice has just been issued for the Hunter, Mid-north
coast etc with a report of 4cm hail from Camden Haven.

Radar looks quite impressive with storms firing all over the place.
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From: "Willis, Andrew" <adwillis at bechtel.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Newcastle Storm
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Hi All

Just had a small storm roll through.  Lightning and Thunder, Some wind
gusts, some rain but no hail.  Seems to be a bigger cell inland from
Newcastle, maybe around Cessnock or Maitland.

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Hey All

Well Melbourne is really starting to look interesting now, we have had Cu
around for most of the afternnoon but in the last half hour things have
really started to get organised with nice congestous and Cb's around. The
bureau has just issued one of those garden variety thunderstorm warnings.

Wohooo, bring it on, 2 days in a row.

Nick Sykes

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Thunderstorm Warning

Issued at 3:56pm on Monday the 28th of August 2000 forthe Melbourne
Metropolitan
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Thunderstorms have developed over the northeast of the Melbourne
Metropolitan
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:06:41 -0700
From: Lindsay Pearce <writer at lisp.com.au>
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Hi Laurier, Bussie and others, (Written offline, Monday 4:30pm)

Here, here, Blackheath is a gorgeous town. I echo Laurier's remarks,
entirely. I have been coming here for over 25 years and have lived here
for a bit over three years and I have a great love for the place. Snow,
wind, thunderstorms/hail, mists - at times very thick and sunsets and
sunrises to die for. Not to mention the views, high cliffs and
waterfalls etc, that are also breath taking.

I had lunch at Mount Victoria pub today (a small town a few kilometres
to our north) and then visited a well known bookstore. The owner, Allan,
has lived here for a long time and says that this year has been one of
the best snow seasons he can remember. Mind you, not for snow depth, but
for the frequency of falls. I've spoken to a number of older locals and
each one has said similar things. We've had at least five cold/snowy
outbreaks this year, with a number of those having snowfalls over two
days or more, four days in the May 28th outbreak.

It's been a great winter! Well, mostly. Seeing my ex-fiancee for the
first time in 13 years at Mount Vic pub, (She lives in Adelaide) wasn't
so great. Just ask my wife :-(

Lindsay Pearce


Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> Blackheath, Bussie, which is the highest village in the Blue
> Mountains, 100km west of Sydney. Altitude 1067m, and on a north/south
> ridge that frequently marks the boundary of westerly and easterly
> weather. Temperatures are usually 8 degrees or so cooler than Sydney,
> we get strong winds and snow, which has led unsympathetic people to
> christen the town "Bleakheath", or to remove the first and last
> letters to be known as "Lackheat". For all these reasons, plus
> fabulously clear, crisp mornings, and the benefit of four distinct
> seasons each year, I love the place.
> 
> Laurier
> 
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Hi All,

Just a brief note because most of today's action has already been covered by
other people in other emails.
I left uni after my only lecture for the day at 11am, and headed out west,
passing through the first of Sydney's storms, experiencing some lightning
and brief heavy rain, but I knew this was going to head out to sea, so
wanted to be in the clearer air behind the storm in case anything developed
on the ranges. I got out to Richmond(Sydney traffic of 1.5 hrs at midday) by
12:30pm, to be greeted by a less enthusiastic sky, with the massive storm
out to sea and connected line extending back into the Hunter, but there was
nothing over me or on the ranges except small cu. I went and got some lunch
only to come out to find some of the Cu were growing quite strongly right on
top of me. Of more interest though was the storm that had now become visible
to the W/SW. After a phone call to James Harris, I decided to head after
this cell. However, I didn't have to go far at all before the cell hit me,
and I ended up having to double back into Richmond. This cell was moving...
It was quite lightning active with numerous CGs that I witnessed. I got very
heavy rain in Richmond, with some local minor flash flooding, and also small
hail for about 2 mins to about 5mm in size. The storm was then moving into
an area with quite low road density(to the E/NE), so I made do with sitting
at the end of the Richmond RAAF base runway and watched the storm move off
into the distance with constant thunder and plenty of CGs to keep me happy.
The mammatus on the back end was beautiful too. After this, the day seemed
to pretty much die, as presumably the trough line progressed to the NE, but
all in all, it was a thoroughly successful, if not completely unplanned,
chase.

Big thanks to Matt Smith, Max King, James Harris and Prof Anthony Cornelius
for mobile updates - great help guys :)

Matt

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The day began with a storm. After another late 
night due to uni work, i was awoken by my father who was informing me that there 
was some very interesting to the west. I hauled myself out of bed to encounter 
sunshine, but black to my west. It began raining lightly at first, an then 
poured down.&nbsp; It eased up again before a dusting of pea size hail for about 
20 seconds. I then heard my first clap of thunder in ages! It was a close strike 
too, and it was a great feeling again. We had some pretty good thunder and some 
very close strikes for a 10 minute period after the hail and rain (lightning 
came after the heaviest rain and the hail). </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>The 
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some cu hu dotting the mountains, and when i left at 2pm there was some nice 
bases including a very nice RFB to my north in Richmond, where Matt Pearce 
received. With this promising horizon i set off for the storm. I was directly 
north of me at this stage, and from the looks of it was moving east. I decieded 
to move NE to try at least to get in front of it, knowing that if I decided to 
go north, I would only see the back.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;I traveled north of St Mary's to Mt Druitt, 
where I observed a magnificent shelf cloud formation, and then a lowering of 
some description. While stopping to take a photo here i was smacked on the head 
by some hail, then, ducking for cover i witnessed the first of two strange 
encounters with hail. It seemed as if someone was standing about me an dumped a 
truckload of hail onto my car and surrounds (about 10-15m around the car). The 
hail bucketed down and stopped with heaps of hail falling in about 5 seconds, 
only around the car and nowhere else. Anyway moving along again about 5 minutes 
down the road at round-about near Rooty Hill i had a second weird encounter with 
the hail. By now i had established that the storm was in fact moving NE, and the 
rain subsequently was doing the same. At the round about the rain stopped to 
which hail again dumped down smacking into the left hand side of my car with an 
accompanying NE gust of wind. A few seconds later rain smack the right hand side 
of my car, with a gust of wind coming from the SW. In front of me i saw one rain 
shaft moving away from me to the NE, and a hail shaft moving toward me from the 
NE.(the hail was very small the second time, on reconisable from the sound and 
the icy remnants on the windscreen). This occurred for about 10 seconds, to 
which the rain then just came down as heavy as it was before, and i was left 
amazed by the small scale features storms can give us. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The surrounding sky was filled with new activity 
and i became aware that in my current position staying south of the storm, i was 
going to get rained on and loose my view. Thanks to a good run with the lights, 
i made it to CarLovers at Blacktown where Matt Smith was, just before the rain 
got me. We observed the original cell which was moving to the NE now. There was 
some very nice features to this cell. That rain i had gotten since Rooty Hill 
was all due to surrounding precipitation cu, and newer developments off the main 
cell. I toured around Blacktown, but got stuck in the traffic so i decided to 
head home due to the increasing uni work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A pretty fun chase, and some good photos to come 
out of it i am sure. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to Matt Smith and James Harris for their 
calls.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>dann</FONT></DIV>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm:Melbourne
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:29:39 +1000
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Bugger. And all I'm getting is drizzle for hours on end. Grin.

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 4:33 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Storm:Melbourne


> Hey All
>
> Well Melbourne is really starting to look interesting now, we have had Cu
> around for most of the afternnoon but in the last half hour things have
> really started to get organised with nice congestous and Cb's around. The
> bureau has just issued one of those garden variety thunderstorm warnings.
>
> Wohooo, bring it on, 2 days in a row.
>
> Nick Sykes
>
> Location: Clayton South, Melbourne
> (http://seaustraliasatpics.virtualave.net/mylocation.gif)
>
>
>
> BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
> VICTORIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>
> Thunderstorm Warning
>
> Issued at 3:56pm on Monday the 28th of August 2000 forthe Melbourne
> Metropolitan
> Area
>
> Thunderstorms have developed over the northeast of the Melbourne
> Metropolitan
> area.  Further thunderstorms may develop around the metropolitan area this
> afternoon.
>
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From: "bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Blackheath, a great town.
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One thing I do love to see. Waterfalls (and some from clouds too!).
Waterfalls here as big as what will drop in the storm water drain.......

Bussy

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:06 AM
Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Blackheath, a great town.


> Hi Laurier, Bussie and others, (Written offline, Monday 4:30pm)
>
> Here, here, Blackheath is a gorgeous town. I echo Laurier's remarks,
> entirely. I have been coming here for over 25 years and have lived here
> for a bit over three years and I have a great love for the place. Snow,
> wind, thunderstorms/hail, mists - at times very thick and sunsets and
> sunrises to die for. Not to mention the views, high cliffs and
> waterfalls etc, that are also breath taking.
>
> I had lunch at Mount Victoria pub today (a small town a few kilometres
> to our north) and then visited a well known bookstore. The owner, Allan,
> has lived here for a long time and says that this year has been one of
> the best snow seasons he can remember. Mind you, not for snow depth, but
> for the frequency of falls. I've spoken to a number of older locals and
> each one has said similar things. We've had at least five cold/snowy
> outbreaks this year, with a number of those having snowfalls over two
> days or more, four days in the May 28th outbreak.
>
> It's been a great winter! Well, mostly. Seeing my ex-fiancee for the
> first time in 13 years at Mount Vic pub, (She lives in Adelaide) wasn't
> so great. Just ask my wife :-(
>
> Lindsay Pearce
>
>
> Laurier Williams wrote:
> >
> > Blackheath, Bussie, which is the highest village in the Blue
> > Mountains, 100km west of Sydney. Altitude 1067m, and on a north/south
> > ridge that frequently marks the boundary of westerly and easterly
> > weather. Temperatures are usually 8 degrees or so cooler than Sydney,
> > we get strong winds and snow, which has led unsympathetic people to
> > christen the town "Bleakheath", or to remove the first and last
> > letters to be known as "Lackheat". For all these reasons, plus
> > fabulously clear, crisp mornings, and the benefit of four distinct
> > seasons each year, I love the place.
> >
> > Laurier
> >
> SNIP
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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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I believe raw data will cost. Only the current and most recent two
processed image panels will be available as freebies.

Laurier


On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:07:53 +1000, "David Findlay" <nedz at bigpond.com>
wrote:

>I was just wondering, will you be able to get this new free radar images as
>raw data format for processing, or will you still have to pay. Also If you
>join ASWA can you get it as raw data?
>
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HI,
agree with you clyve, as I was in the bellriene Pen on the weekend, abundant 
Cold Air Cbs. No Flash bang, very heavy showers witnessed and well got 
satched, while fishing in Barwon Heads. Big Cold Air Cells in the straight 
this morning looking south from Breamlea. Patchy Fraco with slight drizzle 
heading home.
Les



>From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 20:34:38 +1000
>
>Hi all.
>Some nice cold air CBs around Central Victoria today, with isolated
>discharges, just had about half hour of good showers some up to 40mm/ hour,
>all up 14.5mm at Leopold in that time, also some very photogenic cells over
>Bass Strait at sunset............yippee. Regards Clyve H.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 3:08 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
>
>
> > Thanks Clive.
> >
> > Bussy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> >
> >
> > > Hi Bussie.
> > > Keep an eye on the mid level cloud band over the northwest of Vic for
> > > development it may push towards northeast Vic: although it seems to be
> > > thinning slightly. regards Clyve H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: bussie <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 11:02 AM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bugger. Sounds like South of the ranges stuff? Low cloud starting to
> > break
> > > > up a bit here at present. 11am
> > > >
> > > > Bussy (NE Victoria)
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: clyve herbert <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all.
> > > > > The small low continues to approach Victoria although is rather
> > > feeble,The
> > > > > airmass across southern Victoria is conditionally unstable and 
>there
> > is
> > > > the
> > > > > possibility of a few storms not only in  the West of the state but
> > also
> > > > over
> > > > > the central and west Gippsland districts and along the ranges, The
> > cloud
> > > > > mass  well south of Tasmania continues to move westward under the
>low
> > > near
> > > > > Southwest Vic:,however this unusual motion may be due to the
>possible
> > > > > development of a low in the western Bight along the approaching
>rather
> > > > large
> > > > > cold front now west of the Bight area all worth watching. regards
> > Clyve
> > > H.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: MSC - Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> > > > > To: Aussie-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 10:08 AM
> > > > > Subject: aus-wx: IMAGES: Victoria & SA
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Morning all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did the eastern states survive this crazy change to daylight
> > > > > > savings????? I'm not looking forward to getting to work in the
>dark
> > > for
> > > > > > the next 2 months - although if the 'season' gets off to an 
>early
> > > start
> > > > > > in the afternoons, that's ok by me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great image this morning of the low to the SW of Victoria
> > > > > > http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA8193.gif
> > > > > > 1955Z = 0655AEDST
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm curious as to why, if the above image shows a 'classic' low
> > > pressure
> > > > > > system why it is only analysed as an 'area of low pressure' on 
>the
> > MSL
> > > > > > rather than a 'low pressure system'???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ....and they're forecasting isolated storms developing in the 
>west
> > of
> > > > > > the state from about midday.....hmmmmm.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > UNSTABLE W/NW'LY FLOW AHEAD OF DEVELOPING TROUGH FORECAST JUST W
>OF
> > > > > > VICTORIA 05Z, NEAR ROBINVALE/WARRNAMBOOL 11Z. ISOLATED
>THUNDERSTORMS
> > > > > > DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ISOL CB 3000/26000 DEVELOPING FROM THE W AFTER 02Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thoughts anyone?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (don't forget to add 11 hours to the Z / UTZ / GMT times on the
> > charts
> > > &
> > > > > > images if you live in an eastern state with daylight savings)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and for those of you who missed last night's image from the 
>CSIRO
> > that
> > > > > > we were talking about, it can be found at
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/0826csiro.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jane
> > > > > > --------------------------------
> > > > > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Check out the MSC Cafe at
> > > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:14:44 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi all,

While standing in the drizzle and ~gale W'lies this evening - mum came
home and informed me that the Gateway Bridge has been closed due to high
winds!  For those who don't know, the Gateway Bridge is a tall bridge
that was built to allow ships to pass under it, and was built to bypass
the Brisbane CBD.  During strong winds, the speed limit is reduced to
60km/h - however during the afternoon, a truck/ute was flipped over from
the high winds!  The northbound lanes were originally closed due to the
accident, but soon after they closed the southbound lanes too as it was
too dangerous!

While I know I shouldn't assume, I bet the person involved was doing
close to 100km/h (like many people do :) but is stupid in high wind
situations like this!

This is what my mum has told me, it was on the traffic report.

Feel sorry for those people now, who'll have to take Wynnum/Lytton Rd
and Shafton Ave onto the Story Bridge, and Breakfast Crk Rd & Kingford
Smith Drv!
-- 
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From: "McDonald" <mcdonald at one.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Stormy Melbourne/Victoria
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hey there fellow weather watchers.&nbsp; 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lovely storms formed just just just N of my house 
this arvo and after work I raced home and to the nearest vantage point and 
started taping.&nbsp; Anthony Cornelius kept me updated as to what was happening 
on radar and a few nice pulses saw the cells go pink and red on radar.&nbsp; 
Took 25 mins of video in the end of strong updrafts, lowerings (some very 
interesting ones at that), the sunset and heaps more.&nbsp; At the rate we are 
going this storm season is going to cost me a fortune in tapes and 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Victoria might get a break tomorrow but storms are 
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David

We are receiving the radar data in a raw format and are processing into
images. Please give me a call if you would like it processed into a format
for your application.

You can also obtain raw radar data from the bureau but it is considerably
more expensive than the GIF files.

Regards, Mark
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>From: "David Findlay" <nedz at bigpond.com>
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>Subject: aus-wx: Radar
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 9:07
>

> I was just wondering, will you be able to get this new free radar images as
> raw data format for processing, or will you still have to pay. Also If you
> join ASWA can you get it as raw data?
>
> David Findlay
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Hi Blair,

The central area of Brisbane is much more built up then it was
previously (which I thought was one of the reasons why it was moved?) 
Hence, there may be some "heat island effects" seen - more so at night
I'd say though.  I think the new site will have temperatures much closer
to Ipswich's then the AP.  But of course, that's my highly non-expert
opinion :)

Thanks for your input!

Windy and drizzly Brisbane

Anthony Cornelius

Blair Trewin wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > What do you think of the new Brisbane site?  It appears to be a fair bit
> > warmer then the Brisbane AP - the AP was 23C y'day, the CBD 26C.  The
> > CBD has had quite a few marked temps in the mid 20's over the past
> > month, where as if my memory serves me correctly, the AP was 2-4C
> > cooler!  One of the main problems I have with it though, is that the
> > media are reporting the Brisbane CBD temperatures, but are using the
> > Brisbane AP averages!!!  So of course, we're getting temperatures "above
> > average" nearly all the time during the day.  I have a feeling that
> > Brisbane could very well register a nice 40+ on the new site if we get a
> > few very hot days (eg, Jan 21/22 this year) - and potentially see a min
> > around the 30C in very hot and humid conditions.
> >
> The differences on very hot days is actually fairly minimal if the old
> RO site is anything to go by (and I have no reason to believe that
> there will be a great difference between the old RO site and the new
> Brisbane City site). Looking at the difference between the RO and
> the airport during the period of overlap (1949-86), on the hottest
> days (37+ at the airport), the airport was, on average, 0.6 degrees
> cooler than the RO, with the largest difference on any such day being
> 1.8 degrees. Based on that, I'd expect the frequency of 40+ days
> in the city to be comparable to that of 39+ days at the airport -
> roughly a 1 in 10 year event.
> 
> (The difference between the highest recorded temperature at the
> airport (39.6) and the RO (43.2) looks a lot bigger than that, but
> it needs to be borne in mind that the RO only went over 41.3
> twice, in 1902 and 1940, both before the airport site opened, and that
> if the airport site had existed in 1940 it might have been expected to
> top 40 with a bit to spare).
> 
> Minima are more dependent on local site characteristics than maxima
> are (although less so for extreme high minima than extreme low minima).
> Nevertheless, there is no evidence of a systematic difference on warm
> nights between the airport and city (the difference mostly shows in
> the winter half of the year in the bottom half of the frequency
> distribution); if anything, those nights with 25+ minima suggest that
> the airport is marginally (0.2 degrees on average) warmer under those
> conditions, although there is a bit of scatter in both directions.
> Again, the difference between the highest RO (28.0) and airport (26.1)
> minima is a function of length of record, not a systematic difference
> between the sites (the 28.0 was also in 1940). I wouldn't rule out
> the possibility of a 30+ minimum in Brisbane - the most likely
> scenario being very windy conditions following a very hot day (and the
> most likely timing, in my opinion, being November or December) - but
> the new site doesn't make it any more likely.
> 
> Blair Trewin
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I noticed that radar local's are free on TWC website now, it has all the
main cities, but Perth, whats going on?

Jacob

At 07:32  28/08/00 +1100, you wrote:
>David
>
>We are receiving the radar data in a raw format and are processing into
>images. Please give me a call if you would like it processed into a format
>for your application.
>
>You can also obtain raw radar data from the bureau but it is considerably
>more expensive than the GIF files.
>
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>>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>>Subject: aus-wx: Radar
>>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 9:07
>>
>
>> I was just wondering, will you be able to get this new free radar images as
>> raw data format for processing, or will you still have to pay. Also If you
>> join ASWA can you get it as raw data?
>>
>> David Findlay
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:46:00 -0700 (PDT)
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Now the Bureau has declared its intention to open up
access to  data including radar, a number of sites are
now starting to provide access. 

Try :   http://www.theweather.com.au/public/

Frank

--- Frank Burns <frank_burns25 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jane
> 
> Its Kosher!
> 
> Haven't you heard the latest news. 
> 
> The Bureau  has  announced it is opening up access
> to
> all its data for free before the Olympics.  It was
> supossed have happened on by 1 August, but they had
> some stuff up.
> 
> 
> The guy at the Bureau said just use
> 
> student             p32remud
> 
>  until they solve some technical contractor stuff up
> and can make the data free. 
> 
>  He wasn't interested in trying  to register me
> properly.
> 
> Frank
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Next Saturday storms ? Weather in repeating pattern
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The longer range models are suggesting that northern inland NSW may be good
for a storm next Saturday. Jet looks good as well.

It is important to realise that these models aren't that crash hot 6 days
out, but the weather does seem to be repeating a pattern lately.

The suggested scenario for Saturday is almost a carbon copy of today.

Worth keeping an eye on.

Michael Thompson
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a negative on the lightning where I was. Cold Airies.
Les



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>Subject: aus-wx: Stormy Melbourne/Victoria
>Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:28:01 +1000
>
>Hey there fellow weather watchers.
>
>Lovely storms formed just just just N of my house this arvo and after work 
>I raced home and to the nearest vantage point and started taping.  Anthony 
>Cornelius kept me updated as to what was happening on radar and a few nice 
>pulses saw the cells go pink and red on radar.  Took 25 mins of video in 
>the end of strong updrafts, lowerings (some very interesting ones at that), 
>the sunset and heaps more.  At the rate we are going this storm season is 
>going to cost me a fortune in tapes and film.
>
>Victoria might get a break tomorrow but storms are again likely wednesday, 
>friday and possibly saturday.  That would give us 6 out of 8 days with 
>storms in some part of Victoria.
>
>Jane is currently sitting on one of the many favourite hills in Melbourne 
>in the E suburb of Pakenham watching the cells pulse away into the darkness 
>- hoping for a few flashes of lightning to boot.
>
>Enough from me.
>
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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:47:11 +1000
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Evening all,

A few pics of my afternoon drive home (the long way round<g>)
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/28_08_00.htm

BTW, have a look at the first picture which was taken early afternoon
when things were just starting to get going....is that a vapour vortex?

Jane
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Hello McDonald!

28 Aug 00 19:28, you wrote to All:

 M> Lovely storms formed just just just N of my house this arvo and after
 M> = work I raced home and to the nearest vantage point and started
 M> taping.  = Anthony Cornelius kept me updated as to what was happening
 M> on radar and = a few nice pulses saw the cells go pink and red on
 M> radar.  Took 25 mins = of video in the end of strong updrafts,
 M> lowerings (some very interesting = ones at that), the sunset and heaps
 M> more.  At the rate we are going this = storm season is going to cost
 M> me a fortune in tapes and film.

Where are you?  I could see the dark clouds to the north here, but only got a
couple of minor showers. :-(

FWIW, I'm in Niddrie.

Tony, VK3JED
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----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> THIS IS A WEATHER LIST!!!
> KEEP YOUR VULGAR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF YOU REDNECK
> MARIO
>
>
>
> --- John Woodbridge <jrw at pixelcom.net> wrote: >
> YYYYYYyyyyyyyyeeeeeehhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.....
> >
> > Congratulations Broncos you little bewdies, loveit
> > when we whip the southern
> > poofta's.
> >
It's a pity that the team from the best state in Oz
lost..........................bloody Queenslanders............... :-)))
John from Ballina

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Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:45:10 -0400
From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
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Jane wrote:

> A few pics of my afternoon drive home (the long way round<g>)
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/28_08_00.htm
> 
> BTW, have a look at the first picture which was taken early afternoon
> when things were just starting to get going....is that a vapor vortex?

Are you sure that it is winter there?!!  Seems like an active spring to me!

Vapor Vortex?  It appears to be too large to me to be supported by the
relatively small clouds.  Without seeing animation, it is very difficult to
judge.  But whatever it is, it is fascinating.  Aint wx and clouds
wonderful!!!  <S>

Les

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