Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:03:34 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id NAA28433 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane: You are so good! Please put The Cloud on your web site! Harald and myself are here in Orlando at the AMS Severe Storms Conf. It is a great conference as usual. Funny thing, I happened to meet one of the two mates who think they can control storms from a space based microwave beam! Needless to say, we had an interesting conversation! He even asked me to be involved!! LOL. I am just now getting the chance to catch up a little with the list. I have been having some computer/e-mail problems and time is scarce from here in Orlando, FL. I must admit, I did go to the Magic Kingdom of Disney World, and the group also went to the Universal Studios. The park was closed except for the conferees. The food and rides were great! They finished our visit by taking us to the Twister set. I must admit, that set was a whole lot more enjoyable than the movie!!! LOL. Good science here, as well! Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Phone: 816-373-3533 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Screensavers Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:40:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Something to enjoy with your morning coffee - a site for chasers (yes, from the USA) - and it's got screensavers!!! Mobile Technology New & Reviews for Stormchasers http://chasers.mobilicious.com/ Jane --------------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au --------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: AFR - Article - A shrinking threat To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:34:56 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Found this article in today's Australian Financial Review. Disclaimer: I do > not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. > > ----- > > A shrinking threat > > Contrary to dire warnings about global warming, the most accurate data > appear to indicate the alarm about the effects of increased greenhouse gases > is unwarranted. Simon Scott reports. > > > http://www.afr.com.au/features/20000914/A63620-2000Sep13.html > > ----- > > Anthony Spierings The article starts off by saying that the conventional wisdom is that increasing carbon dioxide levels are resulting in climate change. Once you get beyond that it would be difficult to find a single accurate statement in the article. Sticking to the area which I am most familiar with, the Australian observational record: - it is well-established that there is a major discontinuity in most Australian maximum temperature records around the time of the introduction of the Stevenson screen. This occurred progressively from the late 1880's, and was almost complete by 1910 (although a handful of stations, such as Bushy Park in Tasmania and Jerrys Plains in NSW, retained non-Stevenson screens well into the 20th century). - quantifying the discontinuity at individual stations is difficult. Conventional methods for identifying discontinuities in climate records rely on comparing the station with its neighbours in some way (the variation in the methods is mainly in the method of combining the neighbours' data to come up with a comparison series, and in the statistical tests used to detect a discontinuity in the comparison). This, however, will only work if the neighbours (or a reasonable proportion of them) have a reasonably homogeneous record for a few years either side of the period under investigation, which makes life difficult if a large part of the network undergoes a change at much the same time. This makes it very difficult to compare temperatures from the pre-1910 period with those afterwards on a national basis, which is why any pronouncement by the Bureau about mean temperatures refers to the post-1910 record. - that said, if the date of introduction of the Stevenson screen is known (in some cases it is known precisely, in others we know that it was installed by a certain date (perhaps because an inspector's report makes reference to its existence) but we do not know how long it had been there beforehand), it is possible to make comparisons between pairs of stations, although obviously this involves a greater uncertainty than if you have multiple comparison stations. - a study at Adelaide (where one of the old types of shelter, the Glaisher stand , and a Stevenson screen operated in parallel for 60 years) found that the Glaisher stand recorded mean maxima 1.2 C warmer than the Stevenson screen. (Incidentally, this is why the Adelaide record maximum from 1939 is quoted as both 47.6 and 46.1 - 47.6 is the Glaisher ob, 46.1 the Stevenson). - the Adelaide study refers to a properly operated Glaisher stand. In practice there was a wide variety of other shelters in use, some of them better than others (in outback NSW it was relatively common to hang thermometers under metal verandahs, with predictable consequences for the maximum temperature record), so we can't use the 1.2 C from Adelaide as a universal adjustment. At most stations that I've examined the discontinuity is in the 1-2 C range, but at some it's as high as 3 C (and a lot worse in summer). In particular, three independent studies using different methods (by Simon Torok, myself and Roger Jones) found estimated discontinuities of 1.5, 1.7 and 2.1 C respectively around 1900 at Cape Otway, which is a record which is widely quoted by greenhouse sceptics as 'evidence' of a lack of warming in Australia. - the warming observed through Australia since 1910 is not spatially uniform; it has been greatest in northern and central Australia, especially in Queensland, and least in the south-east (with parts of NSW showing a slight cooling of maximum temperature). If you go to the station records section of John Daly's website you'll notice that the sites chosen are overwhelmingly in south-eastern Australia (the only two exceptions are Geraldton and Darwin, and Darwin has a well-known artificial cooling in 1941 when it moved from the post office, an atrocious site which the Japanese did a favour to by blowing it up, to the airport), and that Queensland sites are conspicuous by their absence. - the claim in the AFR article from Warwick Hughes (who is associated with the right-wing Tasman Institute (otherwise known as the source of many of the ideas behind Jeff Kennett's economic policies)) about the impact of urbanisation on the Australian temperature record is misleading. There are certainly plenty of sites affected by urbanisation in Australia, especially the major cities, but the major city records are not used in serious climate studies (and some sites which have been claimed by the likes of Hughes and Daly as urban-affected, such as Canberra, are actually airport sites well outside the urban area). There is an issue at some sites in relatively small towns, but in small towns, unless they are growing rapidly (NOT something that is the case for most small Australian country towns!), the 'urban' influence on the record usually depends on local land use in the immediate vicinity of the instruments (e.g. the construction of a bitumen car park near the site) more than it does on the size of the town. As such, changes arising from a change in local land use usually take the form of a 'jump' in the record and can be statistically detected in the same way as any other discontinuity (e.g. ones arising from screen changes or station moves). There are also plenty of observations from places like lighthouses, airports, research farms and the like which are not affected by urbanisation at all, and there is no evidence of inconsistency in the observed trends at those stations and other stations in their region, once the dubious pre-1910 data is disregarded. Hughes' claim that 30-year-old population figures were used to identify urban stations is just plain false. (As an aside, trying to quantify the urban impact on temperature in the major Australian cities is very difficult, as we have no major city that occupies a homogeneous topographic region - distance from the coast is a complicating factor everywhere). - another thing which gets quoted a lot by greenhouse sceptics is the alleged inconsistency between trends in the satellite record and the surface temperature record. A lot of this inconsistency has now been reconciled, but in any case (a) they are not measuring the same thing (the satellites are measuring temperatures throughout the lower atmosphere) and (b) the period of record of the satellite data, 1979-99, is too short to draw many realistic conclusions about the trend - especially as it starts right after the sharp jump in global mean surface temperatures around 1978-80. (David Jones may have more to say about the satellite data when he returns next week). I could write about this for hours, but I'll leave it for now. Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [198.142.93.161] From: "Shaun Whelan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:03:41 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2000 05:03:41.0106 (UTC) FILETIME=[50A0E120:01C01ED2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If the BoM said there was a cloud, then there is only one cloud,which makes it The cloud. I am humbled in the presence of The cloud. Our cloud, who art in...... Reverently Shaun Nowra P.S. It went and got some friends. >**'The Cloud'** >Shaun, that was a brilliant observation of yours - how did you work out >which cloud was The Cloud???? - and where did it go after you saw it? >Maybe we should all keep our eyes open for signs of The Cloud lurking in >our area!!! - maybe a brief description on a WANTED page is the go!! > > > >Enjoy!! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 15:57:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought I saw The Cloud today, got my autograph book out ready for it and all. But it turned out to be just his cousin visiting Melbourne on business. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "MSC - Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 10:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' > Evening all, > > I've finally updated the SDS Humour page for those of you who want to > call some of us 'bastards' because as in Chris Daley's words last > Saturday "Janes out Pakenham way at the moment, watching %^# CG's and > listening to &^$* thunder while im sitting here at the %$# > computer!!!!!" ..... > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm > > **'The Cloud'** > Shaun, that was a brilliant observation of yours - how did you work out > which cloud was The Cloud???? - and where did it go after you saw it? > Maybe we should all keep our eyes open for signs of The Cloud lurking in > our area!!! - maybe a brief description on a WANTED page is the go!! > > > > Enjoy!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dane Newman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Radical Move Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:15:02 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just letting everyone know I will be moving from Melbourne in a months time. Yes after 39 years living here I have bought a house in NE Victoria at Tawonga Sth which is about 1.5kms from Mt Beauty. It is in the upper Kiewa valley about 80kms south of Albury-Wodonga, 30kms east of Bright and 35kms from Falls Creek ski resort. It is surrounded by Victoria's highest mountains with Victoria's highest mountain Mt Bogong 1981 metres less than 15kms away. Annual average rainfall is 1260mm with winter the wettest season. Elevation is 370 meters so snow in the valley itself is rare although it did snow in the cold outbreak in late May this year. Of course the surrounding mountains are covered in snow from June till about October. At the moment there is still over two metres of snow on the ground at Falls Creek. Thunderstorms are quite common in the summer months about 30 thunder days a year, although it is not good chase territory. So all in all it should prove interesting. After i settle in up there I will provide the list with regular weather updates. If anyone on the list is in the area they are welcome to drop in. Dane Newman from a mild and very sunny Melbourne. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: aus-wx: First day over 20 in Melbourne To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:07:33 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Melbourne had its first day over 20 for the spring today (20.6). This is the 10th latest date for the first day over 20 in the 146-year record. The latest date on record is 3 October, 1992. There should be several more mild days, with mid-20s (or maybe even high 20s) possible in the middle of next week depending on which model you believe. (GASP is spectacularly exciting - if it came off we'd be looking at 28 on Thursday, 12 with heavy rain on Friday, but I'll believe that when I see it). Blair Trewin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mb at mail.dove.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:28:27 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Matthew Bonser Subject: aus-wx: Adelaide Pics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I have just updated my Wx pics page with a couple of damage photos from the storms in Adelaide last week. We are looking at a warm day here tommorow (finally) with a top near 25 before a change late in the afternoon bringing some showers. Also heard last night that they are forecasting thunderstorms for Adelaide on Wednesday, havent heard that for a while, we might actually get some decent thunder activity for a change - anyone got any thoughts on whether this might eventuate. Cheers Matt B +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ Matthew Bonser Email: mb at dove.net.au I.C.Q: 9650857 South Australian Weather Pictures http://dove.net.au/~mb/wx/wxpics.htm +*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Radical Move Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:52:29 +1000 Organization: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm certainly jealous, has it some land for the chooks and vegie garden. Should get some hail there too. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: Dane Newman To: Sent: Friday, 15 September 2000 16:15 Subject: aus-wx: Radical Move > Just letting everyone know I will be moving from Melbourne in a months time. > Yes after 39 years living here I have bought a house in NE Victoria at > Tawonga Sth which is about 1.5kms from Mt Beauty. It is in the upper Kiewa > valley about 80kms south of Albury-Wodonga, 30kms east of Bright and 35kms > from Falls Creek ski resort. It is surrounded by Victoria's highest > mountains with Victoria's highest mountain Mt Bogong 1981 metres less than > 15kms away. Annual average rainfall is 1260mm with winter the wettest > season. Elevation is 370 meters so snow in the valley itself is rare > although it did snow in the cold outbreak in late May this year. Of course > the surrounding mountains are covered in snow from June till about October. > At the moment there is still over two metres of snow on the ground at Falls > Creek. Thunderstorms are quite common in the summer months about 30 thunder > days a year, although it is not good chase territory. So all in all it > should prove interesting. After i settle in up there I will provide the list > with regular weather updates. If anyone on the list is in the area they are > welcome to drop in. Dane Newman from a mild and very sunny Melbourne. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 17:05:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Visited Brisbane today too briefly, f&^#* at g unbelieveble. Sure gets around. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Shaun Whelan Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2000 6:04 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' If the BoM said there was a cloud, then there is only one cloud,which makes it The cloud. I am humbled in the presence of The cloud. Our cloud, who art in...... Reverently Shaun Nowra P.S. It went and got some friends. >**'The Cloud'** >Shaun, that was a brilliant observation of yours - how did you work out >which cloud was The Cloud???? - and where did it go after you saw it? >Maybe we should all keep our eyes open for signs of The Cloud lurking in >our area!!! - maybe a brief description on a WANTED page is the go!! > > > >Enjoy!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: New BOM experimental product-looks great ! Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 21:34:53 +1000 Organization: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A great new product that is like radar but has wind direction as well. It is experimental. I can see a great use for this in Sydney storm chases. Good for finding where the seabreeze front is, or how far up the coast or inland that pesky SE has made it. Local convergence aiding storm development may also be picked up ( perhaps ) http://ows.bom.gov.au/olympic/zobs.htm from there go WORLD WEATHER RESEARCH PROGRAMME Password and user are - olympic Current conditions can be had by clicking the link at the bottom of the page. Michael Thompson http://thunder.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phil Smith" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 20:59:45 +0800 Organization: Doctor Disk X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I went outside this arvo to see if by chance The Cloud had visited us here in Honkers, but the NE monsoon was blowing very hard (Monsoon Signal hoisted), the sun was shining steadily and there was not the slightest whisker of a cloud - not even The Cloud - to be seen anywhere. Winter has truly arrived at last. Phil <>< Phil Smith Director Doctor Disk Limited Unit B, 4th Floor, Imperial Heights Belair Gardens, Shatin, NT HONG KONG S.A.R. People's Republic of China Phone +852 2646 4672 Fax +852 2637 4006 E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Home e-mail: drdisk at hktrade.com Web: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Typhoon Information: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, 15 September 2000 15:05 Subject: RE: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' > Visited Brisbane today too briefly, f&^#* at g unbelieveble. Sure gets around. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Shaun Whelan > Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2000 6:04 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: MSC Humour & 'The Cloud' > > > If the BoM said there was a cloud, then there is only one cloud,which makes > it The cloud. I am humbled in the presence of The cloud. Our cloud, who art > in...... > Reverently > Shaun Nowra > > P.S. It went and got some friends. > > > > >**'The Cloud'** > >Shaun, that was a brilliant observation of yours - how did you work out > >which cloud was The Cloud???? - and where did it go after you saw it? > >Maybe we should all keep our eyes open for signs of The Cloud lurking in > >our area!!! - maybe a brief description on a WANTED page is the go!! > > > > > > > >Enjoy!! > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------