From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Nights, Wind and Frosts Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:55:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Andrew, Yes, good question. I have observed the same here at Mt. Crosby in winter westerly scenarios, and of course I am at a very different elevation and latitude. But the symptoms are the same, howling westerly, peaking in early afternoon, dying to calm at night, only to pick up next morning around 10:00. Any low scudding cloud also dissappears at night. I speculate that daytime heating allows air at the surface to rise, being replaced by the westerly flow, which is effectively displaced downwards. Nightime cooling reverses this process and the westerly is displaced above a cold dense layer. Cloud observed only during the day is evidence of rising surface air parcels. Not very scientific, maybe there is a better explanation?? John. >snip Subject: aus-wx: Nights, Wind and Frosts Hi all, My parents have a vineyard in Taralga which, being at the bottom of the village is rather frost prone. Last night we had our first (light) post-bud-burst frost which reminded me of something that I've never been able to work out. It has always illuded me why in typical post-frontal weather up there, the expected stiff, cool breeze (or gale) will blow during the day with scattered orographic St or Cu but at night both will dissapear, usually resulting in the frost that we were hoping the wind would keep away, and then the wind would reappear the next day. Why do the conditions of the day dissapear at night, and redevelop the next day (keeping in mind that Taralga is at 800m, just east of the top of the divide and the synoptic situation is post-cold-frontal)? Andrew. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: Ice Falling From Sky Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 23:49:37 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com g'day peoples, there havn't been any reports as far as I know of ice chunks falling from the sky during August here in Alice Springs. There haven't been many reports of any clouds being present for that matter. Only smoke. Earlier on in the year there were many reports and photos of fish falling from the sky in central S.A., near Marree. Something to do with the hatching of fish eggs while in the sky. Can't remember the details. Maybe someone else might know a little more. Quite a bizzare event! I found out that the large fires north of here are actually near the 'granites' mines, on the Tanami road about 2 thirds of the way in a north west direction from Alice Springs to the W.A. border. They are huge due to the massive grass fuel load which resulted from the easter rains, and has dried out. They should show up clearly on Landsat images. By the way, although I have followed this list for about a year or more, only recently have I got around to contributing. I thought I mentioned some of my details earlier, but maybe the posting didn't get through. Anyway, my name is Duncan Treloar, and my profession is in Geographical Information Systems. This is a computing system for making 'On Demand' maps, modelling future events, such as flooding, crop growth and sustainability, working out by combining many layers of digital data the best place to put something, eg. a waste dumping site, etc., and inputing any new data into a mapping system using coords, digitiser (which I try to avoid - involves tracing lines - very tedious) and playing around with remotely sensed imagery and trying to make some sense of it all. This has come from a love of Geography, and therefore a keen interest in the weather. But enough of my diatribe. And gee, ain't this a touchy list sometimes! Perhaps people should keep their non weather related thoughts to themselves. Doesn't do any good to get personal and dish out dirt or offer non weather advice to others - will just lead to the demise of a very interesting list, and with it no more valuable info from people like Blair Trewin. Cheers, duncan (back to the real world after the olympics!) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: aus-wx: Looking back at major storm chases To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 12:25:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'Day Jimmy, > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130mb05.jpg > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130jd03.jpg > > I now believe these to be the wall clouds associated with the funnel we saw > about 40 minutes later or so going through Gunnedah. The video Michael has > also has a funnel from this cloud - I don;t know how we don't have photos of it The lowering to the right of the base might be a wall cloud. It formed under the rain-free base (RFB) towards the precip core on the right, hence it can feed on lower LCL air. For a while I WAS even inclined to interpret the light intrusions into the RFB on the left as clear slots, but that presumes that whatever we're looking at here is a supercell, and that the mesocyclone rotated anticyclonically (counter-clockwise), instead of the standard cyclonic meso. > However, I am wondering, on the same day's photos, and later on about 3 > hours or so later, > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130jd09.jpg > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130mb22.jpg > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130mb23.jpg These pictures tell me that the storm put out a cold pool with a low-level roll cloud that formed along the gust front. The cold pool might have undercut the RFB in these pictures. > this cloud structure cannot be seen but it existed on the left side of this > picture out of view > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1999/0130mb20.jpg > > I am now wondering if this is a mesocyclone and possible wall cloud as > there is rain wrapped around the back. Comments would be very much appreciated. I believe you are looking at the RFB here. There also appear to be signs of rotation at cloud base, but I'd be presumptuous to guess which way. The rain core seems to be a long way removed towards the back. There's some scud under the "meso" which makes me wonder where the low LCL air came from. One option is that the "meso" was undercut by outflow from the distant core. I can't identify a wall cloud in this image. I wonder whether the BOM has *a n y* Doppler scans of this storm that resolve a velocity couplet???? I hope I'll be able to see storms like these in Australia next year. Cheers, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 18:31:43 -0400 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: anvils and mammatus To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id SAA18656 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com These pics, as well as the others on your site are terrific! You are truly an artist with that camera. You seem to have a real talent for recognizing and capturing the beauty and mood of a moment. Thank you for sharing these with us! Les > hi everyone, > I finally have uploaded some 'new' photos from monday 19.9.2000. featuring > some classic cold cb's, anvils and mammatus. > http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/whats_new.htm > regards > TM. ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com essage text written by INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com >hi everyone, i finally have uploaded some 'new' photos from monday 19.9.2000. featuring some classic cold cb's, anvils and mammatus. http://www.crosswinds.net/~anvils/whats_new.htm regards TM.< +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Boskell Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderstorm: St Elmo's Fire? To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Phil & All, Thanks for your comments - I had trouble explaining what I had seen and St Elmo's Fire seemed to be the best way to describe it. What ever it was, it was rather interesting! Has anyone else seen anything like this? It is certainly one of the strangest things I've observed in my 20 odd years of weather watching! Regards, Andrew. --- Phil Smith wrote: > St Elmo's fire is usually only seen where it is very > dark and there are no > street/toen lights to brighten the surroundings. I > used to see it during > every thunderstorm when I lived on a farm near Tyers > in Gippsland - very > seldom since as I have always lived in brightly lit > cities. > St Elmo's fire always extends upwards from objects > connected to the ground. > It appears as a bluish light that varies in > brightness and length and can > look just like a kind of cold fire. It stretches > upwards suddenly when a > particularly strongly charged cloud passes over and > sometimes we used to see > what we called leaders extending downwards from the > cloud. When they met, > there was a flash of lightning along the same path. > When the lightning > flash went off all of the St Elmo's fires in the > district would instantly > vanish. Then, a moment later they would reappear > and start reaching for the > clouds as before. We had a dunny with no door about > 30 metres from the > house and I used to get into trouble as a kid for > spending an hour down > there every time there was a thunderstorm because I > used to love watching > the St Elmo's fire and the lightning. > > However I do remember seeing something similar to > your "bright patch" during > a > daytime thunderstorm in the Little Desert somewhere > south of Kaniva. > The bright patch appeared at the base of the heavy > black cloud for about 3 > or 4 seconds, vanished for about 2 seconds, and then > a brilliant CG hit came > down from the same point in the cloud to hit a > hilltop about 500 metres > away. About a second and a half later there was a > tremendous thunderclap - > a real ripper. > The bright patch did not look at all like St Elmo's > fire. > It was soon after Decimal Currency so must have been > 1966. > > Phil > <>< > Phil Smith > > Director > Doctor Disk Limited > Unit B, 4th Floor, Imperial Heights > Belair Gardens, Shatin, NT > HONG KONG S.A.R. > People's Republic of China > Phone +852 2646 4672 > Fax +852 2637 4006 > E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Home e-mail: drdisk at hktrade.com > Web: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Typhoon Information: > http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Boskell Andrew" > > To: > Sent: Friday, 29 September 2000 06:54 > Subject: aus-wx: Thunderstorm: St Elmo's Fire? > > > > G'day All, > > > > Having an interesting morning along the NW Coast > of Tassie. While driving > > into Burnie from Devonport I noticed a bright > "patch" along a section of > > scud cloud moving in from the sea - it lasted > around 5 - 8 seconds then > > disappeared. I thought it may have been an area of > sun light peeping > > thru...but about 2 seconds after it faded a > lightning bolt blasted it's > way > > sea ward!! The storm never really took off but > seeing that has made my > day! > > I can only assume that what I seen was "St Elmo's > Fire" either that or I > > need more sleep! > > > > Regards, > > > > > Andrew Boskell > > > IT Consultant (Support) > > > Information Technology Services > > > Department of Health and Human Services > > > Parkside > > > PO Box 258 Burnie, > > > Tasmania 7320 > > > andrew.boskell at dchs.tas.gov.au > > > Ph.6440 7061 > > > > > "Thought for the day: It doesn't matter what > temperature a room is, it's > > always room temperature." > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [155.144.17.252] From: "Simon" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 09:30:50 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2000 23:30:50.0771 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCD11630:01C02CC8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could be used on this mailing list. This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where people could visit for more information etc. If this FAQ was sent (perhaps by the administrator) on the first of every month to the list (and kept updated) then newbies to the list should have no problem fitting in and being able to present and understand perhaps valuable information. This would also stop people from having to read mails reminding them how they can show where they are from (like www.whereis.com.au) and basic administration (like not including the entire message when replying). I know that this would help me out a bit (like terminology etc) and would certainly help any newcomers who stick on the list for longer than a month - and will probably help everyone. If as the months go by, we find people asking similar questions about a particular thing, this could be added to the FAQ also. And then, if you know all the terms, or aren't interested in reading the FAQ for the 20th time, you could simply delete it once a month when it comes out. This is just a suggestion. If it does go ahead, perhaps we could discuss what should go in the first issue :) What does everyone think? Regards, Simon _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm near Mackay Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:33:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Matt and all, from Bill at Proserpine Yep, first storm/s for the season, and early for this part of the world. Bloomsbury, about 40 km south of here got a good show, but little rain. The storms did not make it over the range. They appeared to dump their rain west of a line between Bloomsbury and Eungella, which is west of Mackay at the top of the range. They certainly persisted for some time, and according to am radio, were electrically active for a long time with regular static 3 to 5 times every 10 seconds at about 1630 EST. Movement was little, if any, in any particular direction. It appeared that as one cell died, another popped up in the same area. I couldn't get to radar to watch the movement. Another very active system later in the evening (~1900 EST) just south of Collinsville. All we got was a reflected lightening show. No rain at all. The storms formed in the tail end of a surface trough which passed overnight. We've gone from moist E/NE winds which were feeding into the storms yesterday, to freshening SE winds this morning. The early morning cloud has thinned as the morning progresses. Next chance about Thursday?? Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: The Weather Co. To: Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 5:09 PM Subject: aus-wx: Storm near Mackay > Hi all > > Is there anyone on the Queensland tropical coast that can provide some sort > of observations on a long-lasting storm system that has been present just > northwest of Mackay for about the last 2-3 hours? It is quite lightning > active and appears fairly significant on radar as well as satellite > imagery... > > Thanks > > Matt Pearce > ____________________ > The Weather Company > Level 2, 7 West Street > North Sydney 2060 > Phone: (02) 9955 7704 > Fax: (02) 9955 1536 > http://www.theweather.com.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: "Wx Aus" Subject: aus-wx: Storm near Mackay Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:42:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Further to last e-mail, have posted 1640 EST local image to http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/billwebb/maps/local.jpg I have saved another of the Collinsville storm, but do not have it available at the moment - maybe later. Regards Bill +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record-breaking max temps yesterday To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 11:47:39 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Bedourie (42.6) appears to have broken the Queensland September > record (previously 41.4 at Birdsville). This is also only 0.2 off > the Australian September record, set jointly at Wave Hill (NT) and > Mandora (WA). > > There was a near-miss in NSW when Casino got to 38.7, 0.2 short of > the record (set at Wentworth in 1922 - I smell a slight rat about > that one and will be getting hold of Mildura data from that time > soon). NE NSW can be a bit of a hotspot in late winter and early > spring, with Casino being a particularly favoured site. (Taree and > Jerrys Plains seem to be usual suspects a bit later in the season). > > Blair Trewin I've now got hold of the Mildura data and have concluded that the Wentworth observation was wrong - Mildura only got to 18.3 on the day in question (and the highest for the month at Broken Hill was 30.6). This would make Casino's observation the new record - with the caveat that we may well turn up other higher observations as the pre-1957 data is progressively digitised (although quite a lot of the NSW monthly extremes are already in the database). Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 1980 23:21:35 -0800 From: Lindsay Pearce X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win16; I) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea; & Re SG. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I think Simon's idea is a great idea. Good on you for suggesting it. I'm not sure how much work would go into maintaining it etc, but the idea is worthwhile. There's been a number of times when I've wanted to know certain things and such a FAQ would be helpful. It should help with list etiquette too, which could be something we all contribute to, and understand. On the issue of SG, I am comfortable with them being simply "SG", it's neither here nor there to me but I respect the thoughts and feelings of others. On another note, and its only my opinion, I would sometimes think it more helpful if someone has a problem with another person on the list, that they email them privately first, and give them the right of reply, in private. Just like in everyday life, go to the person concerned if you have a problem with them. Then if nothing can be resolved privately, then MAYBE, the list should hear about the problem too. Please, if you have a problem with me, and that is fine by me :-), email me privately and give me a chance to chat to you privately first. I think this creates a more relaxed atmoshpere, at least to me. Just some thoughts, I enjoy this group and I would like to see it continue to thrive. Cheers, Lindsay Pearce Simon wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could be > used on this mailing list. > > This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first > subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a > list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), > some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few > pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to > describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where > people could visit for more information etc. > SNIP... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea; & Re SG. Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:38:18 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > On another note, and its only my opinion, I would sometimes think it > more helpful if someone has a problem with another person on the list, > that they email them privately first, and give them the right of reply, > in private. Just like in everyday life, go to the person concerned if > you have a problem with them. Then if nothing can be resolved privately, > then MAYBE, the list should hear about the problem too. Please, if you > have a problem with me, and that is fine by me :-), email me privately > and give me a chance to chat to you privately first. I think this > creates a more relaxed atmoshpere, at least to me. I echo Lauriers remarks here. One other thing to remember and respect is the sense of humour of the list. There have been instances in the last few weeks where remarks could perhaps be mis-interpreted due to cynicism/sarcasm and not the harmless humour that they are. Remember that sometimes this form of humour doesn't transcend through to the written word. Saying this the list shouldn't become a sterile, serious place. It should be a place where we can share and learn about various weather topics and discoveries. cheers dann __________________________ Daniel Weatherhead Blaxland, NSW weatherhead at ozemail.com.au SYDNEY STORM CHASERS www.sydneystormchasers.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Bit off topic Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:15:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just wondering if anyone may be able to help here. I recently bought a weather station and all is working fine except for the rainfall tallies. With a light shower sometimes it picks up that it has received 2mm when observing the "old" gauge it has point 2 in it. Sometimes registering 2mm when it hasn't even rained. The self emptying bucket is situated on top of the chimney (un-used) and near the TV antennae. Could it possibly be picking up electrical interference from the antennae? It's approx 50cm away from the TV mast. Wondering why it registers 2mm when there's only been point 2. Any help appreciated. Thanks. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: FAQ idea Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:19:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think the FAQ idea is brilliant, because I'm still trying to learn some of the things that are said. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Bit off topic Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:35:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussie. what type of weather station do you have?, it sounds a little like a calibration problem, i.e. a missing decimal point perhaps. ----- Original Message ----- From: bussie To: weather list Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: Bit off topic > Just wondering if anyone may be able to help here. I recently bought a > weather station and all is working fine except for the rainfall tallies. > With a light shower sometimes it picks up that it has received 2mm when > observing the "old" gauge it has point 2 in it. Sometimes registering 2mm > when it hasn't even rained. The self emptying bucket is situated on top of > the chimney (un-used) and near the TV antennae. Could it possibly be picking > up electrical interference from the antennae? It's approx 50cm away from the > TV mast. > Wondering why it registers 2mm when there's only been point 2. > Any help appreciated. Thanks. > > Bussie (NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 14:20:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, Sounds like a great idea to me - what about an aussie-weather homepage? Something like the IRC #weather page that Jacob has made up http://bsch.simplenet.com/aus-wx-chat/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:30 AM Subject: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea > Hi everyone, > > Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could be > used on this mailing list. > > This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first > subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a > list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), > some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few > pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to > describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where > people could visit for more information etc. > > If this FAQ was sent (perhaps by the administrator) on the first of every > month to the list (and kept updated) then newbies to the list should have no > problem fitting in and being able to present and understand perhaps valuable > information. > > This would also stop people from having to read mails reminding them how > they can show where they are from (like www.whereis.com.au) and basic > administration (like not including the entire message when replying). > > I know that this would help me out a bit (like terminology etc) and would > certainly help any newcomers who stick on the list for longer than a month - > and will probably help everyone. > > If as the months go by, we find people asking similar questions about a > particular thing, this could be added to the FAQ also. And then, if you know > all the terms, or aren't interested in reading the FAQ for the 20th time, > you could simply delete it once a month when it comes out. > > This is just a suggestion. If it does go ahead, perhaps we could discuss > what should go in the first issue :) > > What does everyone think? > > Regards, > Simon > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:05:35 +1000 Organization: ASWA Victoria X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree. Sounds like a very good idea. Paul Untitled DocumentPaul Yole Aswa Victoria 0418 369 256 pyole at australia.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 2:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea > Hi Everyone, > > Sounds like a great idea to me - what about an aussie-weather homepage? > Something like the IRC #weather page that Jacob has made up > > http://bsch.simplenet.com/aus-wx-chat/ > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 12:30 AM > Subject: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could > be > > used on this mailing list. > > > > This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first > > subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a > > list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), > > some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few > > pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to > > describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where > > people could visit for more information etc. > > > > If this FAQ was sent (perhaps by the administrator) on the first of every > > month to the list (and kept updated) then newbies to the list should have > no > > problem fitting in and being able to present and understand perhaps > valuable > > information. > > > > This would also stop people from having to read mails reminding them how > > they can show where they are from (like www.whereis.com.au) and basic > > administration (like not including the entire message when replying). > > > > I know that this would help me out a bit (like terminology etc) and would > > certainly help any newcomers who stick on the list for longer than a > month - > > and will probably help everyone. > > > > If as the months go by, we find people asking similar questions about a > > particular thing, this could be added to the FAQ also. And then, if you > know > > all the terms, or aren't interested in reading the FAQ for the 20th time, > > you could simply delete it once a month when it comes out. > > > > This is just a suggestion. If it does go ahead, perhaps we could discuss > > what should go in the first issue :) > > > > What does everyone think? > > > > Regards, > > Simon > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 01:53:49 -0400 From: David Hart To: aussie-weather at world.std.com cc: Jacob Aufdemkampe Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Simon wrote: > Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could be > used on this mailing list. > > This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first > subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a > list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), > some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few > pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to > describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where > people could visit for more information etc. > > If this FAQ was sent (perhaps by the administrator) on the first of every > month to the list (and kept updated) then newbies to the list should have no > problem fitting in and being able to present and understand perhaps valuable > information. [Rest of message deleted, but not forgotten] I think this is a great idea! The only thing I would change is rather than sending out the FAQ once a month, we'd send out the URL for the FAQ. (For those not framilar with the term, FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions. In the past, groups on the internet published these documents to keep repeting questions from coming up over and over again. Often they grew to include the rules-of-the-road for the group, and added information about the subject matter. One of the great FAQ's is the one published by the uk.sci.weather usnet group at: http://www.weather.org.uk/resource/ukswxfaq.htm#1 I'll be glad to put together an administrative section dealing with how to subscribe, unsubscribe, why postings to the list can sometimes take a while to show up etc. I'll also work with Jacob (see below) to draft a general nettiquette section. We'll need lots of help with the glossary of terms and links. If anyone has any further thoughts on this, or wants to help out with the project contact me or Jacob directly so we don't clutter up the list with this matter. If there are enough folks working on the project, I may open up a separate list temporarily. At any rate, we will keep the aussie-weather list informed of our progress. David Hart List owner aussie-weather mailing list +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: "Wx Aus" Subject: aus-wx: Storm near Mackay Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 15:55:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy and list, Jimmy wrote: >Interesting action up near Proserpine. The storm system seems to have >progressed inland. Pretty common up this way for much of the warmer months. That inland trough is a pretty much a permanent fixture. When dragged closer to the coast by another system, it often tantalises us with storms which can be seen on the western horizon. Then it recedes back west again, as it has done today after last night's teaser. Eventually it will produce though - ever the optimist! See ya, Bill, Proserpine +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.87.81] From: "S G" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Who are you? Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 16:24:53 CST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2000 06:54:53.0876 (UTC) FILETIME=[D5584740:01C02D06] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think the main objective of this list is to discuss the weather, therefore names and my anti social response to the e-mail should not be a problem for people replying to my e-mails. I also think that you cylve seem to have a certain attitutude to people like me which I do not appreciate, I was not being rude or trying to start a fight with anyone on this list in the first place but it seems like you want to. My reply was to jimmy and I tryed to ignore it in the first place as I knew people like you wouldn't understand my view. The fact is that the responses to anybody's e-mails about the Adelaide weather is poor and it is just a fact. If you don't want to discuss the weather then I would prefer not to here from someone like you. By the way I don't see why people just can't call me S.G.!!! >Hi SG. >Your rather anti social response to this request and then your response to >the pathetic reply rates to your emails, reflects the mood of the list in >replying to someone who wishes to remain anon, just as you claim this to be >your right then it is the right of individuals not to reply to someone >with >an attitude you seem to have towards others on the list goodbye Clyve >Herbert _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [198.142.93.141] From: "Shaun Whelan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 17:41:24 EST X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2000 07:41:24.0278 (UTC) FILETIME=[548DD560:01C02D0D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds good to me. Shaun Nowra Blue skies & no sign of "It" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Weather station type Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:58:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Clive wrote: what type of weather station do you have?, it sounds a little like a calibration problem, i.e. a missing decimal point perhaps. It's the "Dick Smith" variety, a WM-918 complete with enhanced software (for the computer), which also records exactly the same as the console. 2mm (example) instead of point 2. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Nights, Wind and Frosts Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:00:34 +1000 Organization: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I hope my explanation is correct, but it is simply that the heat ( relative speaking ) of the day, especially midafternoon creates a greater lapse rate in the lower parts of the atmosphere, thus we get some air rising. At night the surface temperature plummets and matches more closely the air above. The reverse happens at night when cold air moves over the ocean, the ocean is much the same temp at night as it is day, therefore the night lapse rate over the sea surface is greater, hence the lovely autumn Cb's offshore and the odd east coast low. Michael > My parents have a vineyard in Taralga which, being at the bottom of the > village is rather frost prone. Last night we had our first (light) > post-bud-burst frost which reminded me of something that I've never been > able to work out. > > It has always illuded me why in typical post-frontal weather up there, > the expected stiff, cool breeze (or gale) will blow during the day with > scattered orographic St or Cu but at night both will dissapear, usually > resulting in the frost that we were hoping the wind would keep away, and > then the wind would reappear the next day. > > Why do the conditions of the day dissapear at night, and redevelop the > next day (keeping in mind that Taralga is at 800m, just east of the top > of the divide and the synoptic situation is post-cold-frontal)? > > Andrew. > > -- > Andrew Miskelly > Illawarra/Southern Tablelands, NSW > amiskelly at ozemail.com.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Cloudscapes & cousins Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:07:10 +1000 Organization: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Lovely stuff, but our own Mr Middleton is giving him a challenge. What gets me is that I do not even get see that sort of setup ! Michael > > One of my favourite photographers, Peter Jarver, has done some pretty > good things to his website - as well as making the images now large > enough to seriously drool over....worth a look!! > http://www.peterjarver.com/Pages/Skyscapes.html > > The 2001 BoM calendar is almost ready to order if you'd like to have a > look at what's included or order it, take a look at > http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/calendar/index.shtml with links to > weather calendars around the world at the bottom of the page. > > .... some great cloudscapes on this site > http://www.petedobre.com.au/gallery_clouds.html - including that great > shot of the Cb near Robe in SA that's in the BoM calendar (April 2000) > ...and I have just realised that the guy who took the photo (Pete Dobre) > is married to one of my cousins!!!! > > Enjoy!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 17:15:50 +0800 From: Mark Dwyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea / Weather Glossary of Terms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Simon and the list, Simon u mean some thing like a list or glossary of terms ? used here in AU and on the list ?, Well there is a list already made up in the Weather Glossary that is still Partially under contruction but the Beta Version of it is on the Net on DownUnder Severe Weather ( DSW ) Url is http://www.dsw.au.com/education/glossary/glossary.htm. But on the list please be aware that this is only the 1 st Beta version and is far from been completed and from been totally correct, but u will find most definitions corvered there atm. If any one has any Possible Corrections to the definitions ( such as spelling, gramma ect... ), Terms that are missing, incomplete and any errors, can you please contact us at DSW. MJ. Simon wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Over the past few months, I've come to thinking, that perhaps a FAQ could be > used on this mailing list. > > This FAQ could contain basic nettiquette (even though when you first > subscribe you are sent this - most people probably delete it), perhaps a > list of common weather abbreviations used on this list (like CGs and CBs), > some common terms and expressions (and what they mean) and perhaps a few > pointers on what kind of information people could give if they want to > describe what they saw. This FAQ could also contain a list of sites where > people could visit for more information etc. > > If this FAQ was sent (perhaps by the administrator) on the first of every > month to the list (and kept updated) then newbies to the list should have no > problem fitting in and being able to present and understand perhaps valuable > information. > > This would also stop people from having to read mails reminding them how > they can show where they are from (like www.whereis.com.au) and basic > administration (like not including the entire message when replying). > > I know that this would help me out a bit (like terminology etc) and would > certainly help any newcomers who stick on the list for longer than a month - > and will probably help everyone. > > If as the months go by, we find people asking similar questions about a > particular thing, this could be added to the FAQ also. And then, if you know > all the terms, or aren't interested in reading the FAQ for the 20th time, > you could simply delete it once a month when it comes out. > > This is just a suggestion. If it does go ahead, perhaps we could discuss > what should go in the first issue :) > > What does everyone think? > > Regards, > Simon > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Mark Dwyer Storm Chaser, Photographer & Webmaster of: Downunder Severe Weather http://dsw.au.com and a Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association Inc. http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:33:15 +1000 From: Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Darwin Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Have a look at Darwin radar if you have a chance - nice looking multicell(?) moving or propagating from the SE towards the NW around Batchelor. Aviation obs from Darwin airport state Cb tops to the south, temp of 30C with a dewpoint of 21C & storms forecast tonight for Bathurst Island - Paul & others - what's it like up there atm???? (if the Stormcam has gone, we'll need eyewitness reports!!!!!) Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Summers" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather station type Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 17:46:00 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussie, I also have a WM918 that has been on line for 3 months or so. Had some minor glitches as you seem to be experiencing. There is a forum for this AWS at http://www.weatherwatchers.org/bbs/wx-200board/. For most of the problems a remedy can be found here. Cheers Steve P.S. If you need any help email me steves at modnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: bussie To: weather list Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 4:58 PM Subject: aus-wx: Weather station type > Clive wrote: > what type of weather station do you have?, it sounds a little like a > calibration problem, i.e. a missing decimal point perhaps. > > It's the "Dick Smith" variety, a WM-918 complete with enhanced software (for > the computer), which also records exactly the same as the console. 2mm > (example) instead of point 2. > > Bussie (NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Matthew Piper" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin Webcam Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 21:00:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and others, The Darwin Webcam is still up and running. I am viewing it right now. For those who havent been to this site before the URL is http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html At the moment of course there is nothing to see as it is dark in Darwin but if your lucky you might be able to see some lightning captured on it. Matthew Piper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 9:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Darwin > Evening all, > > Have a look at Darwin radar if you have a chance - nice looking > multicell(?) moving or propagating from the SE towards the NW around > Batchelor. Aviation obs from Darwin airport state Cb tops to the south, > temp of 30C with a dewpoint of 21C & storms forecast tonight for > Bathurst Island - Paul & others - what's it like up there atm???? (if > the Stormcam has gone, we'll need eyewitness reports!!!!!) > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:58:40 +1000 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Olympic Astrometeorological forecasts - final update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Carl, As far as I can work out, using your method of "scoring" a forecast of fine and warm for every day would have scored higher than anyone listed here - enough said?? don w. Carl Smith wrote: > > Hi All. > > Here is the final update of the astrometeorological forecasts for the > Sydney Olympics. > > Summary Table (may be a bit mangled by the email process). > ______________________________________________________________ > | RESULTS | Ken | Anon | Carolyn | Ken | > | SUMMARY | Ring | | Egan | Poane | > ______________________________________________________________ > | TOTALS: | 41 | 13 | 47 | 4 | > | Of Possible: | 85 | 35 | 90 | 15 | > | Of Realistic: | 68 | 28 | 72 | 12 | > ______________________________________________________________ > | Percent: | 48.24 | 37.14 | 52.22 | 26.67 | > | Adjusted: | 60.29 | 46.43 | 65.28 | 33.33 | > ______________________________________________________________ > > The daily forecasts, observations, etc., and the above results table are > inconclusive. > > What it all shows is that the Astrometeorological methods used by Carolyn > Egan and Ken Ring have the most potential, but clearly need more > refinement. Another thing revealed is that there needs to be more work done > by the astrometeorologists concerned in the area of developing more > consistant methods of writing their forecasts so that evaluation of > accuracy is easier. > > Also, some terms used are quite vague, e.g. 'fine' in meteorological terms > simply means absence of significant precipitation, i.e. no rain, hail or > snow, with no indication of other conditions, so it could be fine and > freezing or fine and 40C. 'Breezy' could be defined as anything from > variable light breezes around 4 knots to near gale force winds of 27 knots > with higher gusts. > > Of course, our conventional weather forecasters also use vague terms like > 'fine' from time to time, which may indicate that they do not have much of > an idea what the weather will do. > > You can see the completed page at: > http://www.ace-net.com.au/~carls/Olympics.html, which has full details of > all forecasts submitted, Chris Turner's entertaining and informative daily > updates, selected daily observations from the Australian Bureau of > Meteorology, Sydney, brief daily forecast and BoM summaries with my own > (possibly inadequate) ratings of each day, and the summary table above, > with all astrometeorological charts and some weather term details. > > This page will remain at the current URL for the next few weeks, but will > need to be relocated to the archive server when our Australian cyclone > season gets under way. I will notify when this move happens. > > Regards, > Carl. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Sydney now flying three sondes daily Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:13:55 GMT X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id GAA06236 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Apologies if this has been communicated to the list before, but Sydney Airport is now sending up a sonde balloon at 9am, and has been since early September. This may be just an Olympics thing, but it still went up at 9 this morning. The non-standard ascents at 6am and 3pm still continue, which gives Sydney the best sonde service (at least for storm watching) anywhere -- other locations get 9am and 9pm, or 9am only. Both the Bureau and Wyoming sites are showing the 9am (00z) traces. -- Laurier Williams Australian Weather News & Links http://ausweather.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 03 Oct 00 19:43:56 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: An FAQ Idea Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David! 03 Oct 00 01:53, you wrote to All: DH> I think this is a great idea! The only thing I would change is rather DH> than sending out the FAQ once a month, we'd send out the URL for the DH> FAQ. I disagree. The FAQ should appear in the list on a regular basis (no more than once/month). Referring people to a web site is, IMHO, an extra distraction (and a major distraction for me as I don't use software which allows "click on the url"). A web version is good for those who, for some reason, miss out on the regular posting (e.g. they subscribed the day after, and then ask for a copy :) ). Anyway, to keep things on topic, no dramatic weather here in melbourne over the last few days, but we're expecting a nice, sunny spell. However, one thing that baffles me is the amazing ability of Melbourne's weather to produce cool weather consistently on weekends! That was so frustrating last summer, when trying to get a day or two at the beach... :-( And this week is no exception, was hoing that this pattern was left with the past summer... Tony, VK3JED .. Blonde Klingons: because it was a good day to dye. -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 21:30:20 +1000 From: Jane ONeill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Webcam Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Help - I can't access that site - is anyone else having the same problem?????? or is it my ISP? I get "Netscape is unable to locate the server" and with IE I get "Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site........" Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- Matthew Piper wrote: > Hi Jane and others, > > The Darwin Webcam is still up and running. I am viewing it right now. For > those who havent been to this site before the URL is > > http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html > > At the moment of course there is nothing to see as it is dark in Darwin but > if your lucky you might be able to see some lightning captured on it. > > Matthew Piper > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Webcam/ Adelaide Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:15:12 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I got the same message Jane, but I have found out they are still operating and cam is working. Maybe ISP problem? Mine now works ok. Any weather freaks in Adelaide want to get together in the next few days? I am in town for work. If so email me please. Paul in Adelaide +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: neumann.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:54:04 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at neumann.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OFFTOPIC: Pictures from September / morning glories currently active Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I have just put up the last of my pictures taken in September and you can check 'em all out here http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2000/Sep/september_pictures.html which consists of a frontal passage, plenty of cirrus and some nice cumulus/altocumulus rolls. I spent the last week of September in Adelaide with my parents (groan) who live in Royal Park in the western suburbs. They keep a tally of rainfall and here are their totals for the year so far: Jan - 3.2mm Feb - 45.3mm Mar - 25.5mm Apr - 62.1mm May - 48.0mm Jun - 74.7mm Jul - 45.5mm Aug - 51.5mm Sep - 53.0mm Total - 408.8mm This tends to be one of the drier regions of Adelaide, as mentioned by Bob Crowder in his book "The Wonders of the Weather". [Actually he says the Port Adelaide area is the driest, but Royal Park is a stones throw away.] However, so far it's been above normal. On Sat (23 Sep) I tested out my forecasting ability by going on a drive/storm chase based on the weather charts in the newspaper, as I didn't have access to my email or internet. These showed the trough moving in from the northwest, so I drove north to Burra and then to Peterborough, covering 550km in the day. From this I discovered I am absolutely shit when it comes to forecasting storms, as there wasn't a cumulus in sight. The following day I drove east to Murray Bridge and things were way worst! [Incidently, upon sifting through all my email from the past week, I honestly thought that S.G.'s posts were quite good. Since I'm crap when it comes to forecasting, I like reading other people's forecasts as I'm able to learn from them. As for people not replying to the posts, well perhaps it's because they are unsure of the weather situation themselves and so rather than send a one-line post saying "Well, your guess is as good as mine", they choose not to clog up the mail system.] Anyway, in the rest of the week in Adelaide I saw some pretty impressive (well I thought it was impressive) cirrocumulus clouds and cumulus rolls (on separate occasions), which I've never seen in my near 2 year duration here in Melbourne. When I lived in Adelaide prior to coming to Melbourne, these sorts of clouds were not nearly as rare as here, and I've been spending more time looking at the sky here than when I was in Adelaide. So I'm wondering if Adelaide is special in that regard? Or have other Melbournites seen these clouds here as well? By the way, if anyone's interested in looking at satellite imagery, can I suggest checking out: http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/NOAAql.html as during the rest of this month, and perhaps next month, you'll be able to see the morning glory cloud line and the north Australian squall line over the Gulf of Carpentaria. These are quite frequent during this time of the year, eg in 1999 I think from memory there were 20 days in October when either the morning glory of north Australian squall line was visible. Some basic info about the morning glory and north Australian squall line can be found here: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Thesis/rightframe.html [I'll improve it whenever I get time.] Anyway, with regards to the satellite imagery, just click on 2000, then either Sep or Oct, and then the desired date. The region each image shows in represented by the "Top Left", "Top Right", "Bottom Left" and "Bottom Right" which are the latitude and longitude of the corners of the image. Try and look from images that encompass "-16,140". Some of the good ones that I found in Sep 2000 can be found here: http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/Morning_Glory/ where the files are named as dd-ttttWST.jpg where dd=date, and tttt=time in Western Australian time. Just add 4 hours for EDT. For an idea of what the morning glory is capable of, check out this image: http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/1999/OCT/26/D12_43875ql.jpg which was taken on October 26, 1999 - 06:50EST, and shows a series of storms that was generated by the morning glory. And I see I missed out on that nice squall line that hit Melbourne on the weekend. :-( Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.29.156.7] From: "T Middleton" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Webcam Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 12:12:18 GMT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2000 12:12:18.0481 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CD06210:01C02D33] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, yes i have the same problem as it won't open for me 95% of the time and i'm running IE5. TM >From: Jane ONeill >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Webcam >Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 21:30:20 +1000 > > >Help - I can't access that site - is anyone else having the same >problem?????? >or is it my ISP? > >I get "Netscape is unable to locate the server" and with IE I get "Internet >Explorer cannot open the internet site........" > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > >Matthew Piper wrote: > > > Hi Jane and others, > > > > The Darwin Webcam is still up and running. I am viewing it right now. >For > > those who havent been to this site before the URL is > > > > http://www.qantmnt.au-net.com/webcam/index.html > > > > At the moment of course there is nothing to see as it is dark in Darwin >but > > if your lucky you might be able to see some lightning captured on it. > > > > Matthew Piper > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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