From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: winds..
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 08:27:01 +1000 
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>Why does wind often calm down around sunrise and sunset? You can have a
>really windy day and then right on sunset the wind will calm right down.
But
>then as soon as you think it has gone it comes back during the evening.

Mathew, not really an explanation - Harald has done a good job on this - but
this really brings me back to a few camping trips I have had on the Bogong
High plains, where this can be a classic occurrence. I remember one night
camping at ~1800m near Feathertop, with a light westerly to about 15 knots
and scattered CU with bases around 1900m. Just on sunset the wind died down,
and then within about 20 minutes picked up to around a 30 knot easterly
Katabatic - it sounded like a train coming in when it first hit. What made
this even more spectacular was the stratus which developed in the katabatic
flow, which appeared as a great "waterfall of cloud" coming off the high
plains (near Mt Loch), then racing back up the side of Feathertop. This
easterly only lasted about 2 hours, and the night then returned to clear and
~calm.

Cheers,

David.

                                                              
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From: "David Findlay" <nedz at bigpond.com>
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>Could be some interesting storms this weekend in the NE half of New South
>Wales. A trough will be making its way up the NSW coast and stalling
>somewhat around the Queensland border before moving out to sea in the new
>week, dependant on what model you look at.

What about SE Queensland?

David
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Good morning all,

I would be very interested to find out what the weather is going to be doing in Melbourne this weekend. I will be driving down and arriving on Friday early afternoon, and staying until Monday morning, on account of the Melbourne Marathon on Sunday. Which brings me to the point of this email, what is the feel for winds on Sunday am?? With warm weather forecast for the weekend the concern is a warm/hot northerly battering us all the way up from Frankston to Albert Park along the bay.

Also, if there is the opportunity to chase, particularly on Fri or Sat, it would be great to meet up with someone with local road/observation knowledge to chase with. Give me a call on 0418 671 851. While in Melbourne I will be staying in North Melbourne, right near the freeway which should be handy for a speedy start to any chase.

Looking forward to some Vic weather.
Andrew Godsman

PS The Illawarra is a dead cert to fire up now, so get your batteries recharged, and high speed film ready Michael and Andrew M.


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From: "Ben Tichborne" <tich at netaccess.co.nz>
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We've had 2 separate days with gales so far this week. On Monday 2nd
October, they came from the northwest in late morning - I was out on Banks
Peninsula at the time, and some of gust (during a 20 minute period) must've
been close to storm force; trees came down over power poles. At the same
time heavy rain (up to 700mm in the Tararuas north Of Wellington in a 2 day
period!) caused major flooding in the southwest North Island.
 Yesterday started off mild (high teens) until early afternoon, and then a
southerly gale sprang up, the skies darkened, and soon Christchurch was
being pounded by hail and then rain (no thunder or lightning reported). The
temperature dropped to about 6 C. The wind died down and the rain cleared
later on, but the temoperature only recovered a few degrees. Not unusual for
a spring day in Canterbury.
 BTW, Recently I've been hearing from this list about record high temps in
eastern Australia, while I've also heard about it being chilly in Victoria
and even more so in Tasmania (snow to 400 metres?) at the same time. I
wonder where and how sharp the boundary between the 2 airmasses has been,
and if it has resulted in any intersting weather (eg gales).

Ben
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne Wx This W/End
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> 
> Good morning all,
> 
> I would be very interested to find out what the weather is going to be doing in Melbourne this weekend. I will be driving down and arriving on Friday early afternoon, and staying until Monday morning, on account of the Melbourne Marathon on Sunday. Which brings me to the point of this email, what is the feel for winds on Sunday am?? With warm weather forecast for the weekend the concern is a warm/hot northerly battering us all the way up from Frankston to Albert Park along the bay.

You're making me envious :-) (I'd like to be running myself, but am
on the sidelines at the moment with a stress fracture).

Anyway, the cool change should be well and truly through by Sunday
morning, and Melbourne should be into a W/SW flow. As you'd probably
have worked out by now, much of the course (especially the second half)
is very exposed to the wind, but it should be a cross-wind for the 
most part, except for the Black Rock section around halfway.

Good to see they're going back to the Frankston-Melbourne course, too
- the year I ran it was a convoluted and pretty boring loop around the
centre and south of the inner city. 

Blair Trewin
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Hi all

Actually, this isn't anything new, but rather it echoes what has already
been mentioned on the list about how CAPE (Convective Available Potential
Energy) and LI (Lifted Index) aren't always good indicators for storms.

I was reading in a paper (thanks to Harald for the reference, and I'll
reply to your email soon) how it is possible for the LI and CAPE to vary
by as much as 2 deg C and 1200J/kg respectively when horizontal convective
rolls are present in the well-mixed boundary layer. This difference arises
depending on whether the sounding was taken in the updraft or downdraft
portion of a horizontal convective roll, the locations of which differ by
a distance of a few kilometres. Of course, this would have greater
significance for soundings taken in the afternoon, so may not be all that
important for us here where soundings are in mid-morning and at night, but
nevertheless, is interesting (well I think it is) to know. 


And one other thing, in the Sep 2 edition of New Scientist, a letter was
posted by Charles Doswell and Erik Rasmussen regarding that proposal to
use microwaves to destroy tornadic storms. I've scanned it and can be
found here:
http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/newscientist_letter.gif


Cheers

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: aus-wx: Septembermean maxima
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Just been looking at the September mean maxima and where records
have (and haven't) been set.

Records are actually surprisingly few and far between. 1980 was warmer
over a large part of the inland (also 1983 north of the Tropic of
Capricorn). The main area where records seem to have been set is
south-western Queensland and north-western NSW (e.g. Birdsville,
Thargomindah and Tibooburra), although none of these have data
from 1928, which was hotter than 2000 and 1980 at places like
Charleville and Alice Springs. 

A record was also set at Amberley (29.9, 1.6 above the previous 
record set in 1980 and 1983). Amberley's data starts in 1941, but as
the Brisbane RO data suggests that 1928 was unexceptional there and
1915 (another very warm September in many areas) was on a par with
1980, so this may well be a genuine 1-in-100 year observation.
Interestingly, the difference between the coast and the inland was
more than usual this year, with Brisbane Airport's 25.1 only 
ranking 5th in a 50-year record (1980 26.2, 1991 25.5, 1965 and 1983
25.2).

Sydney's 22.7 ranks third in a 142-year record behind 1980 (23.3)
and 1928 (23.1), whilst Canberra's 17.6 was equal 7th out of 62
years (the record is 19.5 in 1972, the only time it has topped 18).

Blair Trewin

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From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
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Robert,

I remember hearing a little while ago on ABC radio about this, and had my
thoughts on it. Thanks for scanning the article.

Paul.

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>
> And one other thing, in the Sep 2 edition of New Scientist, a letter was
> posted by Charles Doswell and Erik Rasmussen regarding that proposal to
> use microwaves to destroy tornadic storms. I've scanned it and can be
> found here:
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From: "Paul Mossman" <paulmoss at tpgi.com.au>
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Hi there all.

There is a god possbility this afternoon to see some decent storm action
over the Top end of the NT as the trough located near the gulf moves
westwards.

Watch for the mass of white blobs to appear - and it would be damm typical
if it happened while I was interstate! Just hope it happens again tomorrow
so I can fly through the buggers on the way home.

If anyone in Adelaide wishes to do something tonight - let me know PLEASE!!

It is so damm boring sitting in a hotel room.........

Mobile No. again is 0418662753.

Paul in Adelaide (where it is lovely and sunny and windy.......)

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Hi every-one?
            Every time i try and look at the radar at "ASWA" it display's 
the window, reload time but no picture. Yes i am a member and i am trying 
from the local library, it always works when i am at home......
   ....can anyone help or is it the library's system??

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Hi all Beanz again,
                  Just to let you know i have a temporary site for some of 
my photo's...

//communities.ninemsn.com.au/Beanzvision

     Let me know what you think (if you want).
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Hi Ben,

My guess is it's the librarys computer - i remember having a similar problem
when i tried to use a library computer on a storm chase


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> Hi every-one?
>             Every time i try and look at the radar at "ASWA" it display's
> the window, reload time but no picture. Yes i am a member and i am trying
> from the local library, it always works when i am at home......
>    ....can anyone help or is it the library's system??
>
>         Beanz
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Dear All

Found this while browsing WWW...thought I should share it with you.

Regards
JF

  <<weather.com - Photo Gallery Image.url>>


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I can only agree. I do use them as a guide and tend to often ignore the
actual figures. The models as I mentioned in my post about the weekends
potential are pretty useless in regards to Li's and CAPE unless you are
within 48 hours.

We have all seen storms in positive LI's and we have all seen -8 Li's and
nothing but dry cumulus.

Michael

>
> Actually, this isn't anything new, but rather it echoes what has already
> been mentioned on the list about how CAPE (Convective Available Potential
> Energy) and LI (Lifted Index) aren't always good indicators for storms.
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Anthony will be better placed to advise on this. On Sunday and Monday the
jet stream core will be psuhing 150 knots over SE Queensland. My guess is
this will act as the barrier to storms, storms south from its centre and
clear north.

The border areas should be good Monday.

Michael

> >Could be some interesting storms this weekend in the NE half of New South
> >Wales. A trough will be making its way up the NSW coast and stalling
> >somewhat around the Queensland border before moving out to sea in the new
> >week, dependant on what model you look at.
>
> What about SE Queensland?
>
> David
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Hi Michael and all,

I can say that I have used the LI quite well as long as the models are 
correct. However, you must take into account the moisture profile as well 
all the way up into the atmosphere especially the lower levels up until 
500hPa level. It is like taking a forecast sounding  and comparing it with 
the region where LI's are lower. The lowest areas of LI don't always mean 
the best areas to chase. However, Michael I would think LI's of -8 would be 
ideal. I can say that plotting these variables of wind, moisture and the LI 
is all that I have used of late. I have referred to soundings but they are 
too infrequent and not widespread enough to use for storm chasing. If you 
want to use sounding information, let someone else relay the information to 
you once you are out on a chase if you are almost certain the conditions 
will be unstable and you need to travel long distances. Otherwise your 
chase may be over and you are playing catch the storm.

That's my view anyway. Whilst it can be used succesfully, then I can't see 
why I should not use it.

Jimmy Deguara

At 05:43 PM 5/10/00 +1000, you wrote:
>I can only agree. I do use them as a guide and tend to often ignore the
>actual figures. The models as I mentioned in my post about the weekends
>potential are pretty useless in regards to Li's and CAPE unless you are
>within 48 hours.
>
>We have all seen storms in positive LI's and we have all seen -8 Li's and
>nothing but dry cumulus.
>
>Michael
>
> >
> > Actually, this isn't anything new, but rather it echoes what has already
> > been mentioned on the list about how CAPE (Convective Available Potential
> > Energy) and LI (Lifted Index) aren't always good indicators for storms.
> >
>
>
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Further to this message all the models have dropped the jet stream south by
500kms !!!!

Will have a better idea on Friday.

Michael

> Anthony will be better placed to advise on this. On Sunday and Monday the
> jet stream core will be psuhing 150 knots over SE Queensland. My guess is
> this will act as the barrier to storms, storms south from its centre and
> clear north.
>
> The border areas should be good Monday.
>
> Michael
>
> > >Could be some interesting storms this weekend in the NE half of New
South
> > >Wales. A trough will be making its way up the NSW coast and stalling
> > >somewhat around the Queensland border before moving out to sea in the
new
> > >week, dependant on what model you look at.
> >
> > What about SE Queensland?
> >
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Hi all,

I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year. Not 
that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it 
helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to 
December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.

I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and 
think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au

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I will be quitting my current job, (no not because i want to chase, there are
other reasons)

I will be chasing from Nov 15/16 to Dec 10 if possible. Macca and Greg
Browning will be picking me up from Sydney and we will team up with Anthony a
day later near QLD somewhere, or whever the storms are.

Anyone else comming along?

Matt Smith


Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year. Not
> that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
>
> I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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All up in the air regarding me. I may take a week again, but will try to
target the best week.

Michael


> I will be quitting my current job, (no not because i want to chase, there
are
> other reasons)
>
> I will be chasing from Nov 15/16 to Dec 10 if possible. Macca and Greg
> Browning will be picking me up from Sydney and we will team up with
Anthony a
> day later near QLD somewhere, or whever the storms are.
>
> Anyone else comming along?
>
> Matt Smith
>
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year.
Not
> > that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> > helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> > December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
> >
> > I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> > think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Jimmy Deguara
> > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> >
> > from
> > Schofields, Sydney
> > NSW Australia
> >
> > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
> >
> > Web Page with Michael Bath
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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> >
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Hi Jim

Unfortunately, that time is one of our busiest in the Travel Industry, as
everyone is booking for Christmas/New Year,   But can you give Me an idea of
where TDU2K will be going? I'll try to organise a few days off :)

Max

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> Hi all,
>
> I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year. Not
> that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
>
> I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Sorry - too far away.

I think me & jake will do some chasin in the Territory instead!

PS - The Territory has a new member from WA (i think - sorry jake if its
wrong!!).

We also have a silent 3rd member...............

anyway WELCOME Jake to the best storm state (territory) in the Country!!
Woohooo bring on those storms!!!!
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> Hi Jim
>
> Unfortunately, that time is one of our busiest in the Travel Industry, as
> everyone is booking for Christmas/New Year,   But can you give Me an idea
of
> where TDU2K will be going? I'll try to organise a few days off :)
>
> Max
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: aus-wx: TDU 2000 storm chasing expedition
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year.
Not
> > that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> > helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> > December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
> >
> > I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> > think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Jimmy Deguara
> > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> >
> > from
> > Schofields, Sydney
> > NSW Australia
> >
> > e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
> >
> > Web Page with Michael Bath
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com
> >
> > President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
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Hey guys,

Well my 5 week uni break hasn't been as fruitful with storms as i had hoped.
Because i have had such a long mid semester break, i subsequently have a
longer semester. I finish on Friday December 1st and will look to get away
on that day and meet up with those finishing up the chase. My aim is to
chase for at least a week, but it depends what happens.


dann
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I will certainly be asking for some leave over probably the last two weeks
of the chase. So count me and the mighty mag-a-na in for a bit of
travelling. Michael, or Andrew Miskelly, how does/would this line up for
you?

Andrew Godsman
 > The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
>
> I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.


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On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Jack Frost wrote:

> Found this while browsing WWW...thought I should share it with you.
> 
> http://photo.weather.com/interact/photogallery/gallery/archive/20000203/gallery2n869.948946680.html
> 

Actually, this is a roll cloud of similar character to those morning glory
cloud lines I mentioned earlier. In this case, cold air outflow from the
storms in the background has created a solitary wave (a wave with one
hump) whose leading edge updraft forces air to rise, which subsequently
cools, forming the smooth roll cloud. As the cloud passes, the back edge
would look ragged as here the air is descending, which warms, and hence
causes the cloud to dissipate.

Once again, check out my page here at:
http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Thesis/introduction.html
which has undergone a few modifications since I last posted this link, and
shows how this cloud would have formed.

If anything needs futher explaining (assuming of course people look at it
:) ), I'd be happy to help out.


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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The enlarging mid level cloud band extending from 
WA to Tasmania looks nice and worth keeping a check on over the next day or so, 
also a couple of early season storms south southwest of Darwin look ok too. 
regards Clyve H.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Hi all and Jimmy.
Hoping to get some leave sometime after 23, or 25 Nov: and spend a week or
so,this time somewhere around southeast QLD!, lets hope the QLD trough
becomes astablished with lots of tropical moisture and upper cold pools .I
am looking forward to catching up with all the friends I met over the last 2
years and also to meeting new chasers and weather enthusiasts. regards Clyve
H.
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> Hi all,
>
> I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year. Not
> that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
>
> I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
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<x-flowed>
For understanding the processes of tornadogenesis, I think this following 
paper is well worth the read

http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap07/tornado_form.html

I studied under Bart Geerts whilst he was still in Sydney. He is a great 
person and knew how to get the message across.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

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Hi Andrew

Last year I made my decision only 2 days out, will do much the same this
year. Having kids sure puts a damper on things.

MIchael

> I will certainly be asking for some leave over probably the last two weeks
> of the chase. So count me and the mighty mag-a-na in for a bit of
> travelling. Michael, or Andrew Miskelly, how does/would this line up for
> you?
>
> Andrew Godsman
>  > The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> > December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
> >
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> > think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
>
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:05:39 +1000
From: Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Melbourne is just under the leading edge of this cloudband with cirrus
moving from ~ 290 at about 50knots (guesstimate??)
Picking up a bit of lightning with the 'lightning detector'(shelf system
variety) - presume this is to the SW. Line of showers running from Keith
to Hamilton and moving NE is rather interesting!! DP's of 12 in the SW
at Portland & Warrnambool - wind here atm is 26kmh NNW, temp of 20C, DP
of 6.7C, but of 11C in the SW of the state behind the line of showers.

Jane
--------------------------------
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clyve herbert wrote:

> Hi all.The enlarging mid level cloud band extending from WA to
> Tasmania looks nice and worth keeping a check on over the next day or
> so, also a couple of early season storms south southwest of Darwin
> look ok too. regards Clyve H.

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 22:07:23 +1000
From: Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Hunters all,

Please - TDU2K!!!! <g>

I'm planning to be out of Melbourne on the 18th November - do we have a
projected target area yet???? 'Whistle stop early - Xmas' family catch ups on
the way up (so I can spend Christmas doing severe weather reports like last
year <g>) & then WEATHER!!!!!!! (please *NOT* Thargomindah this time !!!!!)

Guess it's time to get the car serviced, check the tyres, fill the gas bottle
etc - and I've got the 20m measuring tape for storm tracks!!!

Jane
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Jimmy Deguara wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have had my leave approved for the storm chasing TDU2000 this year. Not
> that it mattered in my case as I was going to go anyway but at least it
> helps things along. The dates I will be chasing is November 18th 2000 to
> December 10th 2000. Geoff Thurtell is going to chase with me.
>
> I would really suggest those who want to go to team up with someone and
> think of the dates they are able to chase and make preparations.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
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From: "Pearce" <rpearce2 at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: TDU2K
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:31:52 +1000
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Hi all,

Unfortunately my exams don't finish until early December so I will be unable
to make TD2K :(((((

However, I am planning a number of 2-3 day chases over summer.

Matt

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:12:46 +1000
From: David Carroll <davidkc at nia.net.au>
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HI all. 

I have holidays now until 16th Oct, then again from 8th Nov - 25th Nov,
I maybe able to join in for a few days.. 

David 

Bathurst NSW. 

Pearce wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Unfortunately my exams don't finish until early December so I will be unable
> to make TD2K :(((((
> 
> However, I am planning a number of 2-3 day chases over summer.
> 
> Matt
> 
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