X-Originating-IP: [203.109.250.97] From: "Paul Graham" To: Subject: aus-wx: 05-11: The Elusive Storm!!! Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:05:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2000 13:02:34.0987 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA6C6BB0:01C04728] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi Everyone,

All morning I suspected something might develop around Sydney - especially with the MESO predicting a weak low to form west of Sydney. Sure enough, as the day progressed, winds were slowly tending to the NE and that awful strato-cu gloom started to break up. By this stage, cells were forming south-west of Sydney and it was looking promising even for Sydney. Some cells near Bowral were reaching the pink, albeit briefly. The lightning tracker was also recording quite a number of CG's...

The instability was a little bit marginal, but temperatures in the west were reaching 23 in the west of Sydney with the sun finally breaking through. I contacted Dave and after some moments of indicisiveness, decided that the Hunter was our best option at this late stage, especially considering that the storms to the south-west appeared to be decaying.

I met up with Dave at his work and we had one last check of the radar. Sure enough, just north of Richmond, a cell had reached the "red" on the radar. As soon as we saw that red, we both dashed out to the car and were off.

The cell we had seen on the radar became apparent once we reached Mooney Mooney with the sky very dark in the west. After taking the Gosford exit and checking the situation, we decided to press on until we could find a good lookout. So it was back onto the freeway and then the next exit. At this stage I phoned for an update. A severe thunderstorm warning had been just issued for Gosford. We were, in fact, very close to Gosford but, after some deliberation, we thought that we might still be able to catch development further north as it seemed, this was just the beginning...

So on to Cessnock and all the while noting that the southern sky was very dark and menacing, made all the more threatening by the layer of strato-cu which was largely keeping the sunlight out, as it had for most of the day...

Along the road to Cessnock we phoned for another update. Apparently the storm was up to the red on the radar!!! Matthew Pearce was onto the same storm, but further south. Certainly it was very slow to move. After crossing the coastal range, the sky revealed its real secrets as the strato-cu cleared....A field of congestus!!! Some of the clouds were very well developed and were showing signs of possibly developing into storms...This was very exciting, especially since now we could see what was going on, rather than being trapped under the strato-cu. In fact, we managed to obtain a first-class view of the storm that was close on our tails. Absolutely magnificant with very high tops and large towers on its north-westerly side. In fact, there was a line of towers extending towards Cessnock.

We watched for a while and at one stage, it seemed that one of the towers would completely develop into a new cell. It was looking crisp with a nice boiling updraught. Unfortunately, the wind picked up and the strato-cu was beginning to penetrate inland and it became harder to see what was happening. However, we could still see our storm growing and it almost seemed to be breathing. Certainly, you could see the clouds visibly expanding.

A line of congestus further to the north seemed to be expanding also, so we decided to follow this for a short while and to also try and escape the strato-cu which was very quickly increasing. The towers to the north were a bit hard to reach but our storm to the east was still withing reach, so it was east we went, towards Newcastle.

After another update, it was apparent that the storm was still approaching. Indeed, someway out of Cessnock, back down to the coastal plain, the sky to the south became every more menacing in a very short time-span. Another update and we heard a severe storm warning had been issued for Newcastle. The storm was expected at 7pm. The question we were asking ourselves was, "Where can we find a good lookout?"

After yet another update, it was decided that we best head for Toronto, or there-abouts - as the storm was expected to cross just to the south of there. Certainly, the sky still appeared very dark.

We stopped for a while beside a lake and watched for a while. Heavy showers to the south, it seemed, and there was a bolt of lighting - the first one we saw! I rolled some video for a while. To our disappointment, it seemd that the storm was weakening. Indeed, it was hard to know where the storm actually was. In fact, it even seemed to be clearing. We really did not know what was going on as the last report had it as red on the radar! Not only that, but there was very little lightning - certainly not in the way of CG's.

I phoned Matthew again and asked what had happened to our storm. He replied that it was still pink (in the last 10 minutes) on radar right where we were meant to be. Certainly, we witnessed a heavy shower beside the lake, but not it just seemed to have fizzled out! It was very hard to pin-point any one storm, especially with the over abundance of strato-cu...

At that point, we more or less gave up, but not before rolling some more frames and taking a few more pic's of Cu towers lit up by the setting sun..There also still seemed to be some spectacular clouds around and indeed, to the north, there was one which resembled a storm front, but it was hard to tell.

Upon arriving back in Sydney, we were eager to find out what happened to our storm. After all, it was more or less following us the whole way - rather than us chasing it! So what did happen??

To our surprise, after ovre an hour of driving back to Sydney, the storm - or at least a new cell spawned by an old one - appeard to be still in the Newcastale, Cessnock region and still back-building inland!!!! This came as a bit of a surprise as we had thought it had either died or weakend and passed out to sea!!!!

In fact, it seemed to be intensifying!!!! What an elusive storm!!

Certainly, it had been an interesting day all round, especially since it was a bit marginal for Sydney - where the storm developed - with the strato-cu hanging around for most of the day. I was still surprised the Bureau had removed all possibility of storms for Sydney in the morning, though...

Hopefully next time, we'll actually snare something, we'll just have to be more observant and be on the look out for these very sneaky and sly supercells!

Paul G.

From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane Storms Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 23:11:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I ended up chasing around my local area today, and got some snaps of an interesting storm - a series of pics is available here: http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/reports/2000/november/5/index.html Of note : the MASSIVE NE NSW supercell http://bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/lem/05-11-200001.html and a great Cg captured by Dan Keogh with a digital camera http://bsch.simplenet.com/pictures/submissions/assor/05-11-2000a.html My chase report will be up within a few days - but in summary, the storm i first caught up with was quite electrically active, with several forked Cg's and numerous strobing Cg's, i also had some pea size hail falling out of the anvil when i was 3-4k's away from the main precip curtain! and rotation in some scud under the shelf cloud (pics will be in the report) Late in the afternoon i drove out to Ipswich and encountered an electrically active storm, with dozens and dozens and dozens of Cg's striking within 1-2km, plus several striking within 100m and pulsing up to half a dozen times - plus all the other more distant Cg's etc etc. Although i was a bit concerned about the car being zapped at one point, it was a very enjoyable storm. On the way home i was treated to some awesome anvil crawlers as the storms cleared east - and plenty more (also quite impressive) cg's from a number of cells. And to wrap it all up, some lovely anvil crawler thunder for almost an hour when i got home - the type that lasts for 20-30 seconds with some nice booms at the end. The last AVN run i looked at had a HUGE band of -7 LI's forecast for SE QLD tomorrow - i just hope it doesn't become too cloudy. GASP has quite a strong ridge forecast for us from Tuesday onwards - might be a chance for everyone to catch up the "things you're supposed to do other than storm chasing" ie. sleep +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.173.152.149] From: "Paul Graham" To: Subject: aus-wx: LP Supercell (?) & Wall Cloud Chase Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:44:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2000 13:41:37.0612 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EBCA0C0:01C0472E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi Everyone,

This was the day of the Sydney tornado (by the way, has anyone saved the radar pic that was in the Saturday Tele??? It showed an excellent hook shaped echo)....Dave and I decided to head to the Hunter as we thought it would be better than staying in Sydney. Initially, we travelled to Singleton and met up with Jimmy. Congestus littered the sky and the stage was set for some deep convection. However, we seemed to be on the edge of it, in fact, upon reaching a location near Muswellbrook, the winds seemed light westerly at times - and even a little dry. While to the east, the air appeared much hazier and there even seemed to be some sort of inversion as it looked quite brown and yukky neear the surface, while clearer up top - and a definite interface between the two. The western sky was much clearer and appeared drier.

Anyway, after watching a storm to the south building north, Dave and I decided to leave Jimmy and head further east where deeper convection was apparent. Driving down the road to Denman (approximately heading SE), we came across a developing storm cell. The sky grew dark and threatening and we noticed the very pronounced lowering beneath a very angry and turbulent cloud base...The interesting aspect of this storm cell was that it was very small and was more or less rain free and displayed no lightning initially - although there was one close CG later on and a few rumbles from above.

As we came closer, rotation was evident in the lowering- interestingly, it appeared to be anti-clockwise!! We were almost right underneath this area and the wind picked up a little. After a few minutes, the lowering evaporated somewhat - although there was still some of it left. Dave noticed that there was still rotation in the parent cloud.

There were a few spots of rain but nothing heavy and the cloud base was still very dark. We drove after it, it was only moving very slowly, and the lowering built up once more. Rotation became very much evident again and this time, the base was very smooth and cylindrical. Certainly, to us, it looked like a wall cloud. There was no tornado however and only one stroke of lightning the whole time we were watching.

Later, I was thinking that we may have been observing what is known as a "low precipitation supercell" as this storm certainly had persistent rotation in it but had very little rain and was a pretty small storm on the whole, particularly in comparison to some supercells we have seen.

Hopefully I'll have some pictures soon, I know Dave has scanned some in already.

Paul G.

From: "Martin Davey" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mid week Storms Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:40:39 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi SG Like you I am keeping my fingers crossed about the next system. It has been a funny past few weeks. The mid October low was brillant but the last 2 systems have completely missed us shattering one's confidence in Adelaide's abilities to get storms and weather systems in the warmer months. One thing is certain it is going to get hot in the next couple of days. I think our chances for Wednesday are quite good but I have seen stronger systems fail! While storms have been lacking the good and consistent rains appear to be giving a fantastic season to South Australia. I went driving through the Adelaide Hills today and it was lush green still and the dams quite full of water. Usually by November things are starting to look dry even in the highest rainfall areas. Some decent November rains may see some green grass persisting into December!!! Martin +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 03:00:53 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: No attachments please Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Over the past few days we've had a number of people trying to send pictures to the list, and those who have sent the pics are probably wondering why never showed up, and as I've said before, its because unless the attachment is very small, it will bounce and wont make the list. We do this too avoid longer downloads, if you want to show a picture to the list, its better to upload it to the web and post the URL here. Just a reminder again of the Aussie Weather Guidlines page, its at: http://members.iinet.net.au/~jacob/auswx.html Thanks. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:33:47 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Sydney Tornado Captures ! :) To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id PAA23956 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David wrote: > Is that debris at the bottom middle of m30? Was there much damage? What > rating? F0 by the look of it? Did the funnel reach the ground? Did the > funnel rotation look like it was out of a film shot in the US? Was there a > debris cloud? I have been very busy traveling a lot so have not been able to keep up with all the list traffic but did want to make a comment here. Note that in image M30 that the tornado is a broad truncated funnel not reaching the ground yet you can still see something of a debris cloud with large pieces of debris visible. This illustrates very nicely some of the variety of tornadoes. Note that in many tornadoes, even in violent tornadoes, the funnel cloud may not be obvious aloft and that it need not touch the ground in order to have a tornado. At times they may lack any evidence of the classic "elephant trunk" funnel cloud yet be very much a tornado, a damaging tornado. In the past I was very near an F5 tornado doing F5 damage when no funnel cloud was on the ground. Thus, the simple lack of a funnel cloud DOES NOT MEAN THE ABSENCE OF A TORNADO. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 08:43:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: NSW North Coast Storms: confirmed tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Reports from the media this morning (my job is a media reporter) and directly from ASWA member and ABC journalist Halden Boyd. NIMBIN 05/11 A tornado has ripped through the area from Stoney's Chute to Nimbin (a distance of 6km along a ENE track), damaging several homes and bringing down large trees. A talkback caller has reported 4.5cm diameter hail in Nimbin. This damage and touchdown occurred just 10km ENE of where I encountered the hailstorm and 40knot winds south of Kyogle from the same storm. Looks like I watched and experienced the birth and effects of a supercell !! (Nimbin is about 30ks NNW of Lismore) UKI 05/11 Hail the size of "tennis balls" hit the small village of Uki, which is NE of Nimbin and just ESE of Mount Warning. SOUTH TWEED HEADS 05/11 Flash flooding in the industrial areas with 30cm of water over some roads. DORRIGO 04/11 Hail the size of "tennis balls" cut a swathe 3km long just west of the town shortly after 12 midday. Dozens of cars were smashed while their occupants were attending a funeral. ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:33:13 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: psycho weather near warick To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id TAA07078 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nate wrote: > close. one of best experiences ive had. i saw a town get blacked out as > well. it was unreal. there wasn't any hail where we were but im sure there > was some somewhere along the line. While the fact that you were inside a car is good in that it allows very good (but not perfect) protection, lightning is very serious stuff. It is often the leading meteorological killer each year, and the many that survive a direct strike by lightning often suffer disabling injuries, especially due to nervous system and brain damage. So, lightning should always be respected and avoided at nearly all costs. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:43:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1359 on Monday the 6th of November 2000 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Northern Rivers, Mid-North Coast Thunderstorms are occurring within the advice area and are expected to continue through this afternoon. Some of these may become severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. ----- I've been out for observations but have to stick around home most of the afternoon. A line of cells have formed from N of Casino right through to Grafton. At 2.30pm local, some cells are in the pink on radar. A storm is not far to my W. Extensive anvil cloud is spreading ESE. Scattered cu elsewhere. Seems to be a SE change on the coast to my S. regards, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane Storms Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:11:28 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ben. Yes, translated to very nice conventional squall line type storm at Mt. Crosby around 6:00pm. Heaps of lightning, closest CG strike approx 200m. Total of 24mm very welcome rain in around 30min. Only really showed pink on radar. Looked green as it approached and appeared to have cyclonic rotation above the shelf cloud. But no hail and not much wind once again. The ideal observers storm I thought, all action but no damage. I have taken some photo's of a truely massive cell which formed near Cunninghams Gap around 3:30pm and presumably, dumped on Boonah. One shot clearly shows a wall cloud with suspect lowerings under the new updraft (still rock hard at 50K odd feet) to the NW of precip shafts. Will scan and email you. Also a small non-precipitating CJ over Brisbane with a bizarre little lowered inflow area. Regards, John W. >snip ... Late in the afternoon i drove out to Ipswich and encountered an electrically active storm, with dozens and dozens and dozens of Cg's striking within 1-2km, plus several striking within 100m and pulsing up to half a dozen times - plus all the other more distant Cg's etc etc. Although i was a bit concerned about the car being zapped at one point, it was a very enjoyable storm. ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:57:24 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: Severe storms NSW North Coast 6/11 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, More severe activity in the Northern Rivers district of NSW this afternoon. Two hailstorms have cut through the region from south and NW of Casino, through Lismore, Dunoon and Mullumbimby, tracking generally NE. at least 50 knot winds with tree damage has been reported at Dunoon (N of Lismore) and Rock Valley (NW of Lismore). Hail has been reported from Tatham (SE of Casino), McKees Hill (E of Casino). A roof has been torn off a house at Mullumbimby. I was at home at McLeans Ridges just east of Lismore when the southern cell hit. We had some very close CGs and all sorts of amazing lowerings spread through the valley to my W, NW and N. 7.5mm of rain in about 10 mins, most of which fell at the end in about 3 minutes. Winds were not strong, but commenced as westerly before turning to the NE. Another large storm complex is heading NE towards Lismore right now (4.55pm) cheers, Michael ============================================================= Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges http://australiasevereweather.com/ NE NSW Australia http://www.lightningphotography.com/ ASWA Secretary http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ============================================================= +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: bayns at mail.broad.net.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 16:41:02 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: steve baynham Subject: aus-wx: shelf cloud, hail, rain, pics Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hello all!!! just observed a beeaautiful shelf cloud just off the coast of gold coast heading north. got plenty of pics!:) also just heard from my mum from grafton that dorrigo received glf ball sized hail from a storm on saturday. and heard another report today from a customer at the plumbing shop. he received 160mm in one hour from that massive storm hear last night!!!! what else?.... oh yeah got three rolls of film back today, will start scanning immediately. not as good as i hoped! but some alright ones amonst them! well cyas Steve Baynham http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.simplenet.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:16:56 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, From Sumner, the rampart of CB along the border is nothing short of spectacular. Needless to say endless photos have been taken. Regards, John >snip ----- I've been out for observations but have to stick around home most of the afternoon. A line of cells have formed from N of Casino right through to Grafton. At 2.30pm local, some cells are in the pink on radar. A storm is not far to my W. Extensive anvil cloud is spreading ESE. Scattered cu elsewhere. Seems to be a SE change on the coast to my S. regards, Michael +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sydney weather today/Fridays Storm Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:37:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Heya everyone!

Well hasn't NE NSW/ SE QLD been storm heaven on earth the past few days. This must be the best storm system we have had up the NSW/QLD east coast for a couple of years at least.

Today in Sydney has been interesting. Some pulse cells around the place, although these were all showers. There were some beautiful updrafts persisting from about 12-1pm pileus and all. However these seemed to be heavily capped and anviling out quite low. Still there were some heavy falls sustained around Sydney's outskirts.

Presently we there is quite a nice shower here at the moment, with gusty winds and heavy rain. Sounds almost like a SE QLD coastal shower ;)

Also the Sydney BOM have confirmed Fridays tornado, with them saying there were multiple small 'real' tornadoes. Of course we all knew that. They also publicly requested photographs of the tornado and of the storm structure for their research. (ABC 702 & 2UE 954 radio) I have had heard even more reports of people seeing debry being sucked up inside the storm, and being calm on the ground. SSC will be compiling these reports and photos for a comprehensive analysis of the event in the near future.

dann

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From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: aus-wx: TORNADO!!!! plus a shelf cloud from HELL Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 18:41:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, What an afternoon! I photographed a tornado NW of Brisbane, which looked to be on the ground on the top of Mount Mee, and also a SPECTACULAR shelf cloud around the Strathpine - Sandgate area. http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/nader2.jpg That is a shocking picture - and it may be a bit hard to see - but i have no doubt at all that it was a tornado. I have zoomed in on the image there, as i didn't quite have enough optical zoom. Change that URL to nader.jpg to see a pic taken about 20 seconds later (even worse than the first one). I have more pics, and will have a writeup on BSCH about this tornado within a couple of hours with any luck. The shelf cloud - what a beast! I'm sure everyone has seen Anthony Cornelius' November 24 shelf cloud taken from Noosa in 1998 - this was very similar to it - the best pic: http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers.jpg And various pics of the whole line http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers3.jpg http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers4.jpg These were all taken between 4:50pm (exact time i saw the tornado) and about 5:45pm WOW! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: psycho weather near warick Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:56:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Nate This area you mention is a hotspot, not just for lightning but a good place to look for tornadoes as well. The other thing I like about that stretch of road is the largely uninterrupted views across flat farm fields to the west, close to what you see on the mid west US chase videos. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Smith" To: Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 13:50 Subject: aus-wx: psycho weather near warick > yesterday (saturday)night at 7.30 there was freakish weather at Allora between > Warick and Toowoomba. I was driving towards toowoomba and saw hundreds (well > maby not quite but pretty close to it) of cg's and heaps of sheet lighting. > it is perhaps the most powerful storm i have ever experienced. some of the > lightning was with within 150m of the car with instaneous thunder with the > lightning. as i was looking out the window i saw a bolt come down little > more than 100m away and stuck a tree, literly blew it up and showered sparks > everywhere. we could actually see the diameter of the lighting!!it was soo > close. one of best experiences ive had. i saw a town get blacked out as > well. it was unreal. there wasn't any hail where we were but im sure there > was some somewhere along the line. > > thanks > > nate > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: aus-wx: BNE: Small Pulse Storm Pics Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:03:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello All, I have uploaded some pictures of a small pulse storm that moved over Brisbane northern suburbs this afternoon. I must admit that I do not know any technical names for these clouds (other than white cloud, black cloud, very black cloud :). These images are about 30 kb. Storm organising itself (not much of a picture). http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-05.jpg This one looked scary. The lowering (above the house across the street) was slowly rotating. http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-009.jpg Is this a shelf cloud? http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-010.jpg Back to the big black cloud. http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-011.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-013.jpg Lightning was impressive. Lightning struck 4QR again but alas I was too slow on the SLR. One of these days ... Regards, Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 05-11: The Elusive Storm!!! Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:09:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

My bust chase up to the Bowral area was very similar. That is spoilt by the layer of strato-cumulus. I left home about 1pm and proceeded to Picton, very hard to distinguish any storms just a hazy layer of the fore mentioned cloud. Yet the AM radio was cracking away telling me that there was at least one gorilla in the mist.

For a brief moment the junk cloud parted just enough to see the back of an anvil near Bowral, not the best anvil and tower, a bit ' rainy ' looking, it's hard to explain but after years of chasing you can tell the rainy storms from the more severe hail type, it's all in the hardness of the cumulus, rainy has Cb's have that slightly soft look.

Anyway at Bowral I did manage to find some torrential rain, but did not see and lightning or thunder.

Backtracked to Picton with general patches of gloom, I thought that there was a monster brewing near Bargo as it got quite dark even though it was only 5pm. But nothing much eventuated.

Michael

west of Sydney. Sure enough, as the day progressed, winds were slowly tending to the NE and that awful strato-cu gloom started to break up. By this stage, cells were forming south-west of Sydney and it was looking promising even for Sydney. Some cells near Bowral were reaching the pink, albeit briefly. The lightning tracker was also recording quite a number of CG's...

From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: BNE: Small Pulse Storm Pics Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:43:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Referring to this pic, was this of a storm moving towards you, or moving away. If the storm was approaching this cloud is part of a gust front, the rotation would be mainly at cloud base, you can get gustnadoes from these. If however this storm was moving away from you, especially if we are looking at the NW flank of the said storm then it is a candidate for a wall cloud, what you may be seeing in that case is the base of a meso, or rotating updraft. Michael > > This one looked scary. The lowering (above the house across the street) was > slowly rotating. > http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-009.jpg > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Anthony Spierings" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: BNE: Small Pulse Storm Pics Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:59:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Michael, It was moving towards me. The direction the camera was looking was south west. The storm appeared to be moving north east. I think that this was the north west flank of this particular cell. It was really hooking around at one stage. I was a wee bit concerned as it was moving directly towards the house. In hindsight, what I should have done is set the digital up on a tripod and left it pointed in the same direction. (It would have been nice to have a video.) The pictures that Ben took where about 2 km south of me. http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg It doesn't look half as bad in his pictures. Anthony Spierings as029 at bigpond.net.au > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Monday, 6 November 2000 7:44 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: BNE: Small Pulse Storm Pics > > > Referring to this pic, was this of a storm moving towards you, or moving > away. > > If the storm was approaching this cloud is part of a gust front, the > rotation would be mainly at cloud base, you can get gustnadoes from these. > > If however this storm was moving away from you, especially if we > are looking > at the NW flank of the said storm then it is a candidate for a > wall cloud, > what you may be seeing in that case is the base of a meso, or rotating > updraft. > > Michael > > > > > This one looked scary. The lowering (above the house across the street) > was > > slowly rotating. > > http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-009.jpg > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: clance at connect.com.au Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:16:26 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Tropical cyclone Rosita X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I've been lurking and enjoying the list for a while, especially the great photos. I particularly liked Paul Graham's report this morning of a chase around Gosford and up to Toronto, as I grew up on Lake Macquarie and some of the best memories I have are of the southerly busters roaring up the lake at the ends of the very hot days. I've been four years in Melbourne (and love it) but the weather's not nearly so much fun! I'd like to ask for some assistance from this list. I'm writing a history of a boat named Redbill, a pearling lugger that was built in Broome in the 1920s, which had the most amazing life - bombed and sunk in Darwin harbour for a year, raised and rebuilt, used by missionaries in New Guinea to transport sick people, saved from the wreckers several times and rebuilt again, used by Greenpeace for protests at Muruoa Atoll, survived cyclones, raised funds for East Timor, took "at-risk" teenagers out to experience sailing in Bass Strait (a five-part SBS documentary was shown mid-1999 about this trip, call "If it doesn't kill you..."). So what's the connection with aussie-weather? Well, Redbill returned to live in Broome in 1999, then was swept away and lost in April this year when TC Rosita went through. I've read the excellent reports on Carl Smith's pages about Rosita, but what I'd like now is to: - talk to anyone who experienced the cyclone in or near Broome - talk to anyone at the BoM (Perth?) who was involved in generating models, warnings, reports etc. This is to get a sense of what people might have been feeling and experiencing as the cyclone evolved... I know Rosita was eventually not a major event over a populated area, but I'd just like be able to to hear what it felt like personally to experience the cyclone, or to be professionally involved in tracking its development. Is there anyone here, or do you know someone, who might be able to help with this? Please reply off-list - thanks a lot, Kate Lance +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: BNE: Small Pulse Storm Pics + brisbane storms Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:56:00 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, > to have a video.) The pictures that Ben took where about 2 km south of me. > > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg > > It doesn't look half as bad in his pictures. I was a happy man when i saw you had taken heaps of pics - i saw everything in your pictures, but was driving as fast as i could away from it on the highway, in order to stay out of the rain and keep photographing it :) John W : excellent! can't wait to see the pics! That storm yesterday was actually featureless where i was - i was extremely dissapointed to say the least, and it didn't look severe at all, so i just let it move over me. If i had of kept following a road i was originally on, instead of doing a U turn thinking i was going the wrong way, i would have seen everything you saw. Ah well - it's all good experience for future storm days i guess. BTW - i just uploaded this rough copy span of the shelf cloud this afternoon http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/06-11span.jpg +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TORNADO!!!! plus a shelf cloud from HELL Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:18:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am absolutely sick of seeing images of shelf clouds like this. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE ANY IN MELBOURNE?!?!?!?!? Great pics Ben, the shelf cloud looks awesome. While it is very hard to see in the photo, it does look like there is a funnel extending to the ground. Do you know if there was any reported damage? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: aus-wx: TORNADO!!!! plus a shelf cloud from HELL > Hi Everyone, > > What an afternoon! I photographed a tornado NW of Brisbane, which looked to > be on the ground on the top of Mount Mee, and also a SPECTACULAR shelf cloud > around the Strathpine - Sandgate area. > > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/nader2.jpg > > That is a shocking picture - and it may be a bit hard to see - but i have no > doubt at all that it was a tornado. I have zoomed in on the image there, as > i didn't quite have enough optical zoom. Change that URL to nader.jpg to > see a pic taken about 20 seconds later (even worse than the first one). I > have more pics, and will have a writeup on BSCH about this tornado within a > couple of hours with any luck. > > The shelf cloud - what a beast! I'm sure everyone has seen Anthony > Cornelius' November 24 shelf cloud taken from Noosa in 1998 - this was very > similar to it - the best pic: > > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers.jpg > > And various pics of the whole line > > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers3.jpg > http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers4.jpg > > These were all taken between 4:50pm (exact time i saw the tornado) and about > 5:45pm > > WOW! > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Duncan & Mandy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Alice Weather Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:56:28 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Lots of great storms for the last 4 days. But, although plenty of rain around us, West Alice Springs only got about 2 mm. Anyway, great lightning shows. Yesterday the Todd River was flowing. This a weird event, as it had hardly rained in Alice Springs itself. Funny to see a normally dry river start flowing on a dry day. Obviously lots of rain upstream. Great pics of the Sydney Tornado. Keep them up! Cheers, Duncan +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: new-smtp1.ihug.com.au: Host p38-max41.syd.ihug.com.au [203.173.147.166] claimed to be storm.ihug.com.au X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 23:57:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hunter Chase: Rotating Cloud Lowering... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul, I think you will find the cell near Scone was a different one(s)... Jimmy Deguara At 08:48 PM 3/11/00 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > Dave Croan and I set out at around 11am after checking > the conditions. Unfortunately,we later found out we would have been > better off staying in Sydney - perhaps heading to our usual storm > watching spot of Horsley Park. Anyway, I suppose we have to be pleased > with what we got. After meeting Jimmy in Singleton, we drove towards > Muswellbrook but turned off torwards Denman. We watched and waited for > some time before Dave and I decided that there was not much point in > sticking around as most of the action appeared to be to the east. We > also thought we should start heading home. >After crossing some hills, the sky to the south became darker and more >menacing. Not long after, a lowering appeared and as we got closer, >rotation was evident. I tried capturing some on video but the video did >not turn out very well, unfortunately. The cell was slow moving and no >lightning evident although there were a few rumbles of thunder and the sky >above was very dark. We followed it for a while and noticed further >rotation and a smooth, cylindrical appearence to the base, although there >were no funnels as such. >We watched for a while, hoping for a funnel but none appeared and it >drifted away. There were a few spots of rain but the sun returned and >that was that. Then we heard of the reports of the Sydney storm with the >tornado and realised it was probably better to have stayed home. None the >less, upon reaching home, I noticed the radar showed a big cell near Scone >- to the north-east of where we were and wondered if it may have resulted >from the cell we had seen earlier... >Paul G. ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com President of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------