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I am not normal........ I can't really help that. :)

Jimmy Deguara

At 06:01 PM 3/11/00 +1100, you wrote:
>Is this the way you react to people disasters!  "You hope tommorrow is just
>AS GOOD"?  Do you guys believe you are normal??
>
>
>At 04:35 pm 03/11/2000 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi SG.
> >Yes, it is definitely GOING OFF!!! I have already seen a wall cloud and
> >funnel drop down to the west (I am in Strathfield).
> >Radar is pegged off the scale, I am so excited!!!
> >
> >More reports to come from Matt Smith and Max King, as well as myself.
> >I'm too excited to type :)
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From:        S G[SMTP:thunderday191 at hotmail.com]
> >> Sent:        Saturday, 4 November 2000 8:53
> >> To:  aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> Subject:     aus-wx: Sydney storm!!!
> >>
> >> Wow!!!
> >>
> >> What a massive storm right near Sydney with a rainfall rate of 100mm/hr!!!
> >>
> >> I'm not in Sydney of course but it must be a thriller storm.  Can't wait
> >> to
> >> hear reports.  A pitty Adelaide hasn't had a decent storm since April but
> >> I
> >> think the Sydneysiders deserve some interesting weather more than we do.
>
>
> >I am just about to leave work and have decided to use the campus blow-up
> >boat, 'cause ladies and gents it is, for a kinder word, weeing down rats and
> >pigs..... The fireworks are not very exciting though.
> >
> >Still, I will run up to level 8 of my building (tallest point on campus and
> >probably the entire North Ryde/Marsfield area) and search for the reported
> >tornado... Last time I went up to level 8 and got to the window there was
> >one almighty flash/smack/bang and all the lights went unlighting like. Woke
> >not only myself, but most of my bladder too!
> >
> >Happy chasing for you lucky chasers. (Hey Paul, you were right about today.
> >YAY! :-) Hoping tommorrow is just as good.)
> >
> >Avo Ohanian
> >IS Support
> >Macquarie University
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I am very sorry to see you having to have to go back to New Zealand   - one 
day after and it would have made it worth while.

I really enjoyed chatting as well - I told you this system was excellent. 
Watch this space in the next few weeks.....

Jimmy Deguara

At 06:16 PM 4/11/00 +1300, you wrote:
>I'm back home in ChCh after spending the last 9 days around the
>Newcastle/Hunter area and was so annoyed and dissapointed to having to
>leave yesterday when there was obviously so much activity happening around
>the region. I managed to get some good video shots of the Cbs over Sydney
>but unfortunately couldn't video from the plane at take off time around
>7pm. The Cb towers looked impressive in the sunlight. Was there a tornado
>out there somewhere?
>
>Anyway back home to boring anticyclonic conditions and much cooler temps
>although it is the cooler temps that bring on any chance of storm activity
>here in the east coast of the South Island, this time of year.
>
>Thanks Jimmy for those phone calls. Hope your chase went well. Shame not to
>meet you in person also other Sydney ASWA members  -  could of swapped
>T-shirts !!!  Next time.
>
>
>
>John Gaul
>NZ Thunderstorm Society.
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evening!!!
scanned in teh pick pick of the litter from the weekends storms. also a
couple from the 26th monster on teh gold coast
the latest photos are at the bottom of
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/weather.html in thumbnail form, or see
them direct
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/26100001.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/26100002.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/26100003.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/04110001.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/04110002.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/04110003.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/04110004.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110001.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110002.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110003.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110004.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110005.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110006.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110007.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110008.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110009.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110010.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110011.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/05110012.jpg

cyas

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Tell me about it Les.

Whilst chasing (driving) the supercell, a lightning bolt to my left stuck 
something a few hundred metres or so. I had my right window open and it was 
instant - BANG. I very nearly shit my pants!!!!! Sorry about that - but 
that is exactly how I felt. It came from the main core of the supercell and 
out...

Jimmy Deguara

At 07:33 PM 5/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Nate wrote:
>
> > close. one of best experiences ive had. i saw a town get blacked out as
> > well. it was unreal. there wasn't any hail where we were but im sure
>there
> > was some somewhere along the line.
>
>While the fact that you were inside a car is good in that it allows very
>good (but not perfect) protection, lightning is very serious stuff.  It is
>often the leading meteorological killer each year, and the many that
>survive a direct strike by lightning often suffer disabling injuries,
>especially due to nervous system and brain damage.  So, lightning should
>always be respected and avoided at nearly all costs.
>
>Les
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Hi all!

On the fifth day of Christmas mother nature gave to me...
5 thunder days
4 severe t'storm days
3 funnel clouds
2 wall clouds
1 possible tornado
and a very very happy chas-er...

(ok, so there's two single events there!)

I apologise for my whacky sense of humour, I guess I'm not normal either
after spending 4 days of chasing, not getting much sleep, driving 2200km
in total...and I think now the owner of the petrol station I normally
goto is planning an extension on their house :)

I had a possible tornado today, a nicely descended funnel from the NW
edge of a storm, where the guster curved around to the back of what may
have been another WC (would make 3 WC's), but it was obscured by trees! 
There was another poss WC under one of Friday's storms, a similar
feature with the guster wrapping around at the back with a lowering,
there was rapidly rising motion in this one, but again trees in the way!
(Would make 4 WC's...)

Those are some of the highlights, plenty more to come, some nice
gusters, updrafts, nice hail and general t'storm images (a few of
supercells) - one of the wall clouds is also IMO quite spectacular, it's
not large, but it's just very nice, and in the background you can see a
nice hail foot :)  Will get all of these reports up ASAP...put 6 rolls
of film in for development this morning, but some more to put in
tomorrow too!

Wow - what a great couple of bangs to the season!!!  Looking forward to
many more chases to come!  As well as the the great TDU chase for 2000
which starts next week!

Words can't describe it actually...just looking back over the last four
days!
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association
(ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
14 Kinsella St
Belmont, Brisbane
QLD, 4153
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Hi all,

I may be tired now - I got home just before midnight Sunday. And it is 
12:30am of Tuesday morning........

I won't write much but I can say that Sunday 5th November 2000 will go down 
as the best ever storm chase after seeing the classic supercell develop 
from small cumulonimbus to a monster. Those in Sydney not able to attend 
the Wednesday AMOS meeting and also the ASWA Saturday meeting will be 
sorry........ it will be uninterrupted by videos and more videos. This 
event I would argue has allowed those who have worked hard chasing in the 
not so good years to yield one of the most impressive system I have ever 
seen. I would place a bet with anyone for Sunday in particular that there 
were many wall clouds and tornados around. Just wait to see the footage...

For those of the new ones on the list, I am glad this system has awoken 
you. I feel I am banging my head into the brick wall in trying to convince 
those who feel they have nothing to offer and think people will laugh at 
what they say. In fact, on the contrary, we welcome comments and stories 
from anyone about their experiences. Don't get worried about the jargon 
used - you will get used to it by simply asking questions.

Meeting details........  AND VISITORS ARE WELCOME PLEASE

ASWA

Saturday 11th November 2000
Time: 6pm onwards but turn up at any time - no matter what!!! Call me  on 
0408020468 when you get to the door........
The Weather Company  7 West Street North Sydney

Bring your own drinks and nibblies and also money for pizza if you 
wish...  Please again, you will not be disappointed with the video footage 
and photographs you will be seeing.... They are truly awesome

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AMOS meeting Wednesday night  8th November at the Bureau of Meteorology
ASWA meeting on Saturday 11th November 2000 - details already given 
recently - a reminder later.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I would suggest people take note of the following meeting as it involves 
the period last year matching the Olympic period when there were severe 
storms. This includes the 22nd September 1999 event. This is quite an 
interesting topic.

NOTICE OF NOVEMBER SCIENTIFIC MEETING


AMOS Sydney will hold an additional scientific meeting on Wednesday 8 
November, 2000.

Venue   Bureau of Meteorology
         Corner of 300 Elizabeth, and Foveaux Streets, Sydney.
Time    600 pm.

The program will include the Annual General Meeting, and election of the 
Centre Committee for 2001 (nominations now called for). This will be 
followed by a presentation by
Dr. Tom Keenan who will speak on the First Forecast Demonstration Project 
of the World Weather Research Programme.
The Committee will dine afterwards, and members are invited to join us.
AMOS (Special) November Meeting  8 November 2000; Bureau of Meteorology
*** Note AGM at 600pm, followed by talk ***

First Forecast Demonstration Project of the
World Weather Research Programme
Dr. Tom Keenan.
Leader, Mesoscale Meteorology Research Group,
Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre

In conjunction with the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM), Australia, the World 
Weather Research Programme is conducting its first Forecast Demonstration 
Project (FDP) over the 3 month period August-November 2000 in association 
with Sydney 2000 Olympic Games.  The emphasis is on nowcasting and 
state-of-the-art and complementary WWRP nowcast systems have been 
integrated within the infrastructure and forecast process of the BoM Sydney 
forecast office.  The aim is to enhance the provision of real time nowcast 
services provided by the BoM.  Nowcast systems include, Generating Advanced 
Nowcasts for Deployment in Operational Land-Surface Flood Forecasts from 
the United Kingdom Meteorological Office (UKMO) and University of Salford, 
NIMROD developed by the UKMO, the National Center for Atmospheric Research 
Autonowcaster, the Warning Decision and Support System developed by the 
National Severe Storms Laboratory, the Canadian Radar Decision Support 
System developed by Atmospheric Environment Science in Canada, a 
polarimetric radar microphysical classification scheme developed by Bureau 
of Meteorology Research Centre and SpecPROG developed by Hydrology Branch 
of the BoM.
The BoM is providing enhanced mesoscale observations from Doppler and 
polarimetric radars, wind profilers and automatic weather stations.  These 
data are being linked with other standard sources and high-resolution 
numerical prediction information to feed the WWRP nowcast systems.  A 
web-based guidance system with an animation facility is providing 
information on severe weather occurrence, rainfall and wind changes to 
forecasters.  Enhanced nowcast products are being delivered to external 
clients using web-based techniques.  Direct interaction between forecasters 
and WWRP system experts is occurring in an operational mode.  Integral 
parts of the FDP involve the verification and impact studies under WWRP 
guidance to assess the value and impact of the improved services during the 
FDP.  A WMO sponsored Training Workshop is be held from 30 October to 10 
November 2000 in conjunction with the FDP to enable other WMO members to 
learn about the FDP activities.
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Hi all,

Just a quick post to let everyone know that my photos from the huge storm on
Friday in Sydney are now online:

http://crash.tig.com.au/~bueno/mal/swx/031100/031100.html

In my opinion, the best ones are the wall cloud photos (see the
'strathfield*.jpg' series), in particular #1 and #2.
Damage photos from the same day are also on the same page.  I am looking
forward to the AMOS and ASWA meetings this week :)

Mal Ninnes


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From: "Leslie R. Lemon" <lrlemon at compuserve.com>
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All, 

There have been observations of the Sydney storm mentioning large hail
falling with no rain.  This is common with many supercells.  Browning
referred this to as hail "falling in a mono-dispersed fashion".  Typically,
with the "classic" supercell, the largest hail stones will fall immediately
adjacent to the wall cloud, especially on the south and southeast side
(southern hemisphere), where there is little or no rain.  This is because
these hail stones are falling through updraft that prevents the rain from
descending due to the small mass and slower decent of rain drops as 
compared to the large, heavy, rapidly descending hail stones.  LP (Low
Precipitation) supercells are associated with large hailstones falling from
the anvil just down stream from the cumulonimbus tower (main updraft). 
With the HP (High Precipitation) supercell, the largest hail will also fall
adjacent to the updraft, which will typically be in a semicircle from the
southwest, west and northwest of the wall cloud (which marks the 'surface'
roots of the updraft).  

Les 

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Subject: aus-wx: TORNADO!!!! plus a shelf cloud from HELL
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Ben Quinn wrote:

> That is a shocking picture - and it may be a bit hard to see - but I have
no
> doubt at all that it was a tornado.  I have zoomed in on the image there,
as

This appears to me to be a "gustnado" conforming to the slope of the gust
front and pendent from a shelf cloud.  I may be wrong but that is how it
appears to me.  None the less, it is in the tornado family.

Les


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Anthony wrote:

> I have uploaded some pictures of a small pulse storm that moved over
> Brisbane northern suburbs this afternoon.
> 
> I must admit that I do not know any technical names for these clouds
(other
> than white cloud, black cloud, very black cloud :).  These images are
about
> 30 kb.
> 
> Storm organising itself (not much of a picture).
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-05.jpg
> 
> This one looked scary.  The lowering (above the house across the street)
was
> slowly rotating.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-009.jpg
> 
> Is this a shelf cloud?
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-010.jpg
> 
> Back to the big black cloud.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-011.jpg
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/spierings/storms/06nov2000-013.jpg
> 
> Lightning was impressive.  Lightning struck 4QR again but alas I was too
> slow on the SLR.  One of these days ...

It appears to me that this is not a pulse storm.  The pulse storm is a
storm that occurs in a light low-level wind field, a deep tropical-like
environment of weak wind shear, and a storm that has a very short lifetime.
 The period of severe weather is brief and again short lived.  Yes, the
photo you ask about is that of a shelf cloud.  Finally, the last few photos
you show, are of an updraft base which is ingesting rain-cooled outflow air
with high relative humidity.  In fact, the cause of the wall cloud is the
same, the updraft ingesting low-level (near surface), high RH air and marks
the base of the major updraft.  In fact, it is not unusual that when you
are directly beneath a wall cloud, the winds are very light or calm.  Most
all the air flow is upward rather than lateral in motion.  (This is, of
course, the case unless a tornado may develop adjacent to the
updraft-downdraft interface but beneath the wall cloud edge).

Les
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I saw that tornado as well!!!! That cloud was incredible. What is the
difference between a shelf cloud and a wall cloud?

David

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Hi Everyone,

What an afternoon! I photographed a tornado NW of Brisbane, which looked to
be on the ground on the top of Mount Mee, and also a SPECTACULAR shelf cloud
around the Strathpine - Sandgate area.

http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/nader2.jpg

That is a shocking picture - and it may be a bit hard to see - but i have no
doubt at all that it was a tornado.  I have zoomed in on the image there, as
i didn't quite have enough optical zoom.  Change that URL to nader.jpg to
see a pic taken about 20 seconds later (even worse than the first one).  I
have more pics, and will have a writeup on BSCH about this tornado within a
couple of hours with any luck.

The shelf cloud - what a beast! I'm sure everyone has seen Anthony
Cornelius' November 24 shelf cloud taken from Noosa in 1998 - this was very
similar to it - the best pic:

http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers.jpg

And various pics of the whole line

http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers3.jpg
http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers4.jpg

These were all taken between 4:50pm (exact time i saw the tornado) and about
5:45pm

WOW!





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I saw that huge shelf cloud yesterday and a few sections were interesting.
At one stage there was a rotating lowering that looked just like the tornado
Ben Quinn saw. It went almost all the way to the ground. Also a while later
there was a large funnel cloud(i think), It would have been about 100m
across decending from the shelf cloud, half way to the ground. It then
eventually dispipated. Unfortunately there was no film in my camera :-(

David

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Hey guys,

Well the weather for tomorrow in Adelaide looks interesting with showers and 
possible thunderstorms developing.  Unstable middle level cloud has 
developed in the west and is expected to interact with an infeed of low 
level moisture from the north, combined with very warm temperatures it sets 
up some very good prospects for widespread t'storm activity, especially over 
the north, central and eastern districts of SA.  Hopefully this low level 
moisture will reach down as far as Adelaide at least.  Thunderstorm activity 
could even last into the night before the trough passes through at about 
midnight, this could see some good lightning displays.  The worrying part of 
the forecast is the possible word mentioned for many towns for t'storms.  
The good sign is that BOM has said it expects the t'storm activity to 
increase as it moves in from the west which is good plus the is still the 
risk of mildew forming an graps which shows moisture levels should be high.  
Can only hope tomorrow is the day finally.  Please could someone write and 
tell me what they think will happen I feel like I'm talking to myself a lot 
when it comes to the weather in Adelaide.  I do understand there are not 
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huuullooooo everybody!!
picked up my photos this afternoon, from yesterdays storms.
i was laughing all the way to the bank while flicking through them! i
really was going to the bank to pick up $500!:) yeehah!
ok here it goes
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/06110001.jpg
this was about 3pm EST looking ssw i think

http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/06110002.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/06110003.jpg
3:30
from here i sat on the roof for over an hour i think watching and taking
shots as that big shelf cloud and rain curtain passed by. check out 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11

i noticed soon after there was another biggen comin through. climbed up
again and took these freaky cloud formations as this litterally rolled over.
http://www.angelfire.com/ok2/gany/images/06110012.jpg
check out 13 14 15 16 17 18 19. i have never seen this before. looked like
this huge wave about to crash on us. the strange thing about this was as
soon as it rolled overthe sky cleared and i had a beautiful view of the
half moon and the top of the updraught. unfortunately i had ran out of
film. there was not much lightning at all during both storms. although
another storm passed as we were having dinner, so i setup my b & W spy
camera on the balcony. i just missed one great CG and then missed another a
minute later. i had the camera pointing wsw and these struck just to the
right. teh second was so close man. less than a second difference between
flash and thunder. no time difference though from the brown out we got
which was enuff to stop it recording without me knowing. they would've been
kick arse if i caught them, oh well
enjoy the photos
Steve Baynham
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany

Australian Severe Weather Association
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Hi all,

I could not wait and got the scan of my favourite photo:

http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/inflow/inflowband.jpg

Please do not save this as a bookmark. Please note those attending the 
meeting, this is the preview of what you will see.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
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from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au

Web Page with Michael Bath

Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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Jesus! Very impressive Jimmy!

 Regards, Andre.

Jimmy Deguara wrote:

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>
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>
> http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/inflow/inflowband.jpg
>
> Please do not save this as a bookmark. Please note those attending the
> meeting, this is the preview of what you will see.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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>
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Hi all,

Remembering MT's email back in perhaps April of 1999 about how excited
he was with his first hail dents, I have to admit I'm equally excited
(although not telling parents this!)  Jimmy mentioned to me to look
closely at the car in the sunlight, I did just that today and noticed
several very small dents on the car.  The largest hail on Saturday was
actually 3.5cm!  (Found out by video-taping the largest hailstone on my
hand that I could find, and then measuring the section across my hand). 
So quite considerable hail when you consider it was blown by winds
strong enough to take down trees!

So...my car has been christened with driving through a tornado, and hail
dents now...I can never buy a new car now, it has too many memories!

AC
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And now a tip for removing smallish hail dents from cars.....park the car in
the sun so it gets really hot, then apply ice cubes to the centre of the dent,
and work outwards. I have not seen this in action, but a mate swears by it!
 By the way, has anyone here considered using those old metal mesh windscreen
shields when on a chase? I know they are super dorky, but might save big
$$$....
 Regards, Andrew.

Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Remembering MT's email back in perhaps April of 1999 about how excited
> he was with his first hail dents, I have to admit I'm equally excited
> (although not telling parents this!)  Jimmy mentioned to me to look
> closely at the car in the sunlight, I did just that today and noticed
> several very small dents on the car.  The largest hail on Saturday was
> actually 3.5cm!  (Found out by video-taping the largest hailstone on my
> hand that I could find, and then measuring the section across my hand).
> So quite considerable hail when you consider it was blown by winds
> strong enough to take down trees!
>
> So...my car has been christened with driving through a tornado, and hail
> dents now...I can never buy a new car now, it has too many memories!
>
> AC
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Subject: aus-wx: Strong winds in Perth - Dust Devil pics from the Pilbara WA
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes it happens EVERY time......Just got back from 
Perth on Sunday after 2 weeks R &amp; R and the Perth Weather decides to go OFF 
today!&nbsp;:(</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Radar has been showing heaps of Pink and red on 
broad scale with reports of thunder and lightning across the metro 
area.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also Melville waters Obs have been VERY interesting 
with gusts to 73knots~! dont know how true this observation is but most other 
stations have been gusting above gale force. The news tonight should let us know 
re damage.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Melville Water 07 13:31 - - - WNW 41 22 65 35 - - 
<BR>Melville Water 07 14:00 - - - WNW 43 23 126 68 - - &lt;========Gusting to 
126km/h<BR>Melville Water 07 14:27 - - - NW 37 20 65 35 - - <BR>MELVILLE 
WATER&nbsp; 07 14:40 - - - WNW 18 10 33 18 - - <BR>MELVILLE WATER&nbsp; 07 14:50 
- - - WNW 39 21 135 73 - - &lt;========Gusting to 135km/h&nbsp;<BR>Melville 
Water 07 15:02 - - - WNW 30 16 126 68 - - &lt;===========Gusting to 126km/h 
again<BR>MELVILLE WATER&nbsp; 07 15:10 - - - WNW 32 17 44 24 - - <BR>MELVILLE 
WATER&nbsp; 07 15:20 - - - WNW 27 15 33 18 - - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also on the way back from Perth we saw a MASSIVE 
dust devil just south of Nanutarra (about 250kms SW of Karratha)&nbsp;on the 
back end of a large bush fire.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are a few digital camera pics&nbsp;with more 
Video Captures to come!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://www.wn.com.au/karrathaweather/dust_devil/dd1.jpg">http://www.wn.com.au/karrathaweather/dust_devil/dd1.jpg</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards JJ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Karratha WA</FONT></DIV>
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But the downside was it was my wife that had the car !!!!!!

Hope that the activity holds until last week November / first week December
when I MAY be able to chase. The Illawarra has been rather dull.

Michael

> Hi all,
>
> Remembering MT's email back in perhaps April of 1999 about how excited
> he was with his first hail dents, I have to admit I'm equally excited
> (although not telling parents this!)  Jimmy mentioned to me to look
> closely at the car in the sunlight, I did just that today and noticed
> several very small dents on the car.  The largest hail on Saturday was
> actually 3.5cm!  (Found out by video-taping the largest hailstone on my
> hand that I could find, and then measuring the section across my hand).
> So quite considerable hail when you consider it was blown by winds
> strong enough to take down trees!
>
> So...my car has been christened with driving through a tornado, and hail
> dents now...I can never buy a new car now, it has too many memories!
>
> AC
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Yikes, the only photos that come close are from USA mid west , they are
called stingers or beaver tails, the chances of these clouds not associated
with powerful supercells - close to zero.

MIchael
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> Hi all,
>
> I could not wait and got the scan of my favourite photo:
>
> http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/inflow/inflowband.jpg
>
> Please do not save this as a bookmark. Please note those attending the
> meeting, this is the preview of what you will see.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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 Please could someone write and
>tell me what they think will happen I feel like I'm talking to myself a lot
>when it comes to the weather in Adelaide.  I do understand there are not
>many people on this list from Adelaide though.


We're around SG [rather mysterious name that] - we've just been reduced to
a jealous silence by the last weeks' east coast action and a nearly
unbearable storm drought ;(

And yes - I'll be chasing for any scraps tomorrow....

Phil


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Hello,

Here are my storm photos from recent days great shelf clouds and mammatus
and a golden rainbow - note that I didn't chase - work is killing my time
these days...these storms came to me at home just north of Caboolture.

Great to see all your shots and I hope you like mine - some extras using
good lenses in my non-digital camera and I will have them developed this
week and scanned when I can get to it.

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/storms/image04.jpg
http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/storms/image05.jpg
http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/storms/image06.jpg
http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/storms/image07.jpg
http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/storms/image08.jpg

Cheers all,

Sel.
At 08:11 7/11/00 +1000, you wrote:
>I saw that tornado as well!!!! That cloud was incredible. What is the
>difference between a shelf cloud and a wall cloud?
>
>David
>
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: aus-wx: TORNADO!!!! plus a shelf cloud from HELL
>
>
>Hi Everyone,
>
>What an afternoon! I photographed a tornado NW of Brisbane, which looked to
>be on the ground on the top of Mount Mee, and also a SPECTACULAR shelf cloud
>around the Strathpine - Sandgate area.
>
>http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/nader2.jpg
>
>That is a shocking picture - and it may be a bit hard to see - but i have no
>doubt at all that it was a tornado.  I have zoomed in on the image there, as
>i didn't quite have enough optical zoom.  Change that URL to nader.jpg to
>see a pic taken about 20 seconds later (even worse than the first one).  I
>have more pics, and will have a writeup on BSCH about this tornado within a
>couple of hours with any luck.
>
>The shelf cloud - what a beast! I'm sure everyone has seen Anthony
>Cornelius' November 24 shelf cloud taken from Noosa in 1998 - this was very
>similar to it - the best pic:
>
>http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers.jpg
>
>And various pics of the whole line
>
>http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers2.jpg
>http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers3.jpg
>http://bsch.simplenet.com/ben/holysnappers4.jpg
>
>These were all taken between 4:50pm (exact time i saw the tornado) and about
>5:45pm
>

>
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I noticed a place on the far north coast called Eungella had 76 mm in
the hour from 1643 hrs including 47 mm in the 17 minutes from 1643 hrs.
Perhap someone ( eg Michael Bath) knows where this is.
A pretty heavy fall of 51 mm in the hour at Uki. 

Don White
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Eunguella is about 80km west of mackay in the ranges,


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>I noticed a place on the far north coast called Eungella had 76 mm in
>the hour from 1643 hrs including 47 mm in the 17 minutes from 1643 hrs.
>Perhap someone ( eg Michael Bath) knows where this is.
>A pretty heavy fall of 51 mm in the hour at Uki.
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>Don White
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>just thinking about whats the best combo of lens 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I always have a 28 -70 mm zoom on with 400 asa film 
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