X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 00:41:43 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Video Capture Cards Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 20:20 27/11/00 +1030, you wrote: >What about normal 8mm, is that the same as Hi8?? Just getting into this >video stuff and wondered if the Hi8 tapes can be used on my Video Camera, >which is a Sony TR317e. > >Andrew W Should do. I use a SONY TRV67E camera for my shots. Excellent reproduction of thunderstorm on the 14th Nov over Christchurch. It was recorded on a Hi8 though. I used to have a a SONYCCD-TR80SE using Hi8 but I intercoursed that camera when I fell off off the roof after vidoeing a storm in 1996. Don't climb onto roofs to video storms, it can be dangerous! John Gaul NZ Thunderstorm Society NZTS - more than just thunder +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane local Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:32:08 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Miguel, everyone Some of the storms around that area today looked quite intense from my location, with one complex N and NE of Warwick (which was red on radar for an hour) showing an excellent crisp anvil, with several short lived overshoots and gernally great structure. I took a couple of pics, but i had to use digital zoom so the quality is quite poor http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/reports/2000/november/27/index.html Hail (size unknown) was reported from that storm, which was probably falling around the time those pics were taken A summary of the events in Warwick is also there from ASWA member Adam Cole For those that didn't get to see radar/tracker etc, it is all there as usual Also, Darwin webcam caught a great shelf cloud today, and i have uploaded a selection of images http://bsch.simplenet.com/lem/td2knt/nov27.html Jason Rainforest was in Darwin at the time, and reported "spin ups" on the streets ahead or under the shelf cloud. Hopefully we'll see some digi cam shots from him over the next few days ----- Original Message ----- From: "Miguel de Salas" To: Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 3:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: Brisbane local > That storm heading for gatton sure looks impressive on the radar... > > Miguel de Salas > mailto:mm_de at postoffice.utas.edu.au > > School of Plant Science, > University of Tasmania, > GPO Box 252-55, Hobart, > Tasmania, Australia, 7001. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 09:52:27 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane local To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id JAA16026 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Benn wrote: > Some of the storms around that area today looked quite intense from my > location, with one complex N and NE of Warwick (which was red on radar for > an hour) showing an excellent crisp anvil, with several short lived > overshoots and gernally great structure. I took a couple of pics, but i had > to use digital zoom so the quality is quite poor > > http://www.bsch.simplenet.com/products/reports/2000/november/27/index.html > > Hail (size unknown) was reported from that storm, which was probably falling > around the time those pics were taken Your pics are good ones. The extensive and thick (possibly back-sheared) anvil are indicative of a severe storm. The precip within the anvil is probably associated with a Weak Echo Region on radar. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:27:30 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: Re: aus-wx: climate change...evolution? To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id LAA15711 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robert A. Goler wrote: .> Sorry for keeping this off-topic thing alive, and I must admit that I'm no > expert here, but don't life forms (admittedly not complex forms such as > the animals most people first think of eg humans, cows, lions....) such as > viruses/bacteria readily evolve. I mean just reading in New Scientist > magazines shows how scientists have to come up with new medicines to > combat certain diseases because they have become immune to more commonly > used medicines. And I believe pests in the form of insects/weeds also > evolve to become resistant to pesticides/herbicides and the like. > > In order for such evolution to occur requires many (10s to 100s) of > generations to take place. For simple organisms, this may be seen over a > human lifetime. But complex organisms like humans themselves would > require over a thousand years or so. As a result, you're probably not > likely to go out in the bush and find a kangaroo or something similar in > the midst of evolving into something _drastically_ different overnight. What you describe here are variations within species. Some might want to call it "micro evolution". The DNA contains the code (the information) for relatively wide variations within species. There are the dominant and the recessive traits, etc. These variations may be expressed or brought out under a variety of situations. But the information necessary for these variations was already within the genetic material present. No new information or coding is needed for these small adaptations. Gould's ideas of 'punctuated equilibrium" were developed out of the lack of transitional forms in the fossil record. So, he was arguing from the lack of data and not from the data available. In other words, the evidence for the slow and gradual changes leading from one species to the next similar to your description above, were and are lacking. If you think about it, the entire fossil record should be 'transitional forms'. There should be no lack of fossils in transition, rather they should be there in abundance because the theory states that biological systems are constantly in an "upward spiral". According to the theory everything, every life form should be upward progressing, at least as their environment undergoes change. Tim Perry wrote: > This is a funny way to introduce my self to the list. But lifes like that. > Eucalypts are demonstrably evolving and developing new species right now. On a > more interesting and bizzare note a new species of wallaby appears to have > evolved in this century on the Hawaiian island of Kauai as a result of > hybridisation and a radical change in habitat. Welcome to the list!! As you can see, sometimes topics vary considerably but I did pull us far afield, I am the first to admit. The challenge here is to prove that the genetic information for the observed changes was not already present within the code. We know and can track or even 'force' variations within the genetics of a life form but these species maintain the ability to reproduce within and across these variations. Obviously, we don't see the ability for one specie to breed across boundaries in type with another. Many times there are obvious anatomical differences that can prevent this, but even when these differences are not that large, we don't see this ability, even when species are supposedly adjacent in the "evolutionary tree". It can be argued that with time and continued 'evolution' the loss of cross breeding will occur. But one again, the fossil record should be full of these transitional forms. However, there is a systematic lack of transitional forms in the rather complete fossil record. Thus came Gould's extremely fast "punctuated" evolution preventing fossilization and supposedly the reason that neither his theory nor the darwinian theory are supported by the evidence at hand. This is simply not good science, IMHO. Generally scientific theories are based on observations and not the lack of the same. We now are to the point where we can 'observe' and even manipulate or 'alter' (within limits) genetics. Thus, we should be able to actually find where the "new" genetic information has been added to the DNA in your above examples. The problem is we have yet to see the creation, no, development, spontaneously, of new information anywhere in our environment, in the space-time continuum. Can we now prove, via the above examples, that new genetic information not previously within the genetic pool has been added "spontaneously"? If so, this is nothing short of revolutionary! The 'creation' of 'new' information has always required an intelligent creator or source. Note all that man has been able to do technologically but none of it has 'spontaneously' arisen. I have been on the cutting edge of advances in weather radar design and added capability. But these design changes have always required "know how", "logos", or intelligence to forge these advances by "hybridizing" or combining new information with the existing raw material. It required the intelligence of top-notch engineers whom I have had the privilege of working with, to advance weather radar design. When we leave any information barring system alone, save the addition of unguided energy, we see the destruction of order and loss of information, rather than the spontaneous upward progression of design. Paint weathers, metal rusts, houses fall into disrepair, engines cease to function. Even in biological systems we see the development of 'genetic load' or the spontaneous degradation of the specie via degradation of the genetic information such as in the development of near sightedness, cancer, or cycle cell anemia. But once again......a far afield topic for this list. And once again, Tim, welcome to this list!! Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot Humid Day To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:16:05 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi list, I believe there is one thing to consider when talking about "impossible" dewpoints. A thought experiment tells me that an airmass in thermal equilibrium resting over SSTs of, say, 32 C, should have a temperature *and* a dewpoint of 32 C *just* above the sea surface. The caveat is that this dewpoint is by no means representative of the averaged dewpoint in the lower boundary layer, which might be something like 23 C. Cheers, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Video Capture Cards Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 19:20:41 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Weather Co." To: "Maillist Weather doods" Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: aus-wx: Video Capture Cards > Hi Mal, I use a Hauppage WinTV under Windoze '98, ISpy and a Hitachi VME340E to get 320 x 240 webcam shots, there's a full explanation on the webcam site http://www.uksevereweather.org.uk and occasionally ULead Media Studio Pro to capture video footage as Mpeg of which my state rep has a few examples (savage planet and UK tornado footage) Les (UK) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "Aussie Weather (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: climate change.. Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:01:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Les (UK) wrote.. >Wasn't it not so long ago that atomic bomb tests and such like were making >the climate cooler, dunno about the southern hemi but by now Britain should >have been under a six feet layer of ice with the glaciers melting in a line >from Bristol to Chelmsford (Essex), according to some. It is true that some scientist (and doomsayers) were getting just a tad "excited" about a looming ice age in the 1970s, in response to a slight cooling (of about 0.1-0.2C) which occurred in the Northern Hemisphere from 1950 to 1970. Unfortunately, those in the northern hemisphere never thought to look to the south, where this "cooling" was effectively a flattening, in an otherwise continuous warming trend which commenced around 1890. At the time, atmospheric models were unsophisticated, and all manner of reasons and extrapolations were developed to explain this change. New model simulations suggest it was due to a combination of aerosol pollution (ie soot, sulphate.. from dirty factories etc.), a slight reduction in the solar energy output, and a long-lived re-arrangement on the ocean/atmosphere circulation. Starting around 1980, the warming which had predominated from ~1890-1950, returned and in earth has now warmed at the surface, and throughout the lower troposphere be about 0.3-0.5C since 1950. In hind-sight, it is easy to be very critical of past "excitement", but in reality, many of the ideas of the time were quite reasonable, and are incorporated in today's models. Present day models show that the effect of aerosols (in other words dirty air), is substantially greater than that of the greenhouse gases over almost the entire Northern Hemisphere continental land masses, thereby substantially masking the greenhouse effect. "Best estimates" are that we have only seen about half the temperature increase we should have seen due to greenhouse gas emissions because of this masking, meaning that when we move to cleaner burning technologies, we will see further warming (approaching a doubling of what has already been seen), even if we add no more greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere. I guess the up-shot is that we have the competing factors of aerosols (most importantly sulphate) acting to cool, and greenhouse gasses acting to warm. Dating back to 1896 it has been known that an effective doubling of CO2 will lead to a warming of about 2C, but the impact of aerosols has only been recently understood, and large gaps still remain in our knowledge. >news://uk.sci.weather has had this argument rumbling for quite a while on >and off now with about a 50% split in those who believe and those who don't >believe in global warming. A figure like this (in my mind anyway) carries no weight, as it is only those who have worked in the field and studied it in great detail who can make informed judgement. A survey like this would be like asking a group of meteorologists or weather nutters whether fat can cause cancer - put simply they wouldn't know, and would only be making partially informed guess-estimate. Their is nearly a 100% consensus among climatologist/atmospheric scientist of the reality of global warming. It is very hard to find anybody in the atmospheric sciences who is independent of "dirty industry" who disputes this consensus view. Of course there are a range of views on the size of the problem. >Personally I agree with Les (US) on this one, global warming not proven. I also agree, but the evidence is certainly very suggestive... Cheers, David. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9898 4425 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "Aussie Weather (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: climate change.. Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 09:06:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi David, Les, and list, > >But which ARE the MOST dangerous views ?? > >Ain't freedom of expression and freedom of interpretation great ! I enjoy >the debate. Can't agree more. I've always enjoyed a good debate/argument. > >Bill in Proserpine. >>It is, however, aimed to discredit these dangerous views >>which are so widespread in our community. Guess I probably over-reacted here! Cheers, David. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9898 4425 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:07:42 -0500 From: "Leslie R. Lemon" Subject: aus-wx: climate change.. To: "INTERNET:aussie-weather at world.std.com" X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id SAA11963 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David, Your studied and informative posts on climate research are most appreciated. Thank you for educating those of us who are 'on the fringes' of climate sciences. I get extremely frustrated when the findings are exaggerated in political circles or simply politicized in order to push forward power plays. But, again, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Les ************************ Leslie R. Lemon Radar, Severe Storms, & Research Meteorologist Tel. 816-373-3533, 816-213-3237 E-Mail: lrlemon at compuserve.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Harald Richter Subject: aus-wx: OUTLOOK 28 NOV 00 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Australian Severe Weather Association) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:02:12 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi folks, The pattern has changed for sure, with the cutoff lows replaced by more progressive troughs. For today I am seeing three (3) potential areas for convection. (1) Tropical convection in the Gulf country and far N NT/WA with a very moist PBL and lowish surface pressure values. (2) Convection along the baroclinic zone / cool change / front from W VIC/ SE SA through C SA into W WA (the probability of the tail end firing decreases as you go NW, but there are some nice dewpoints to be tapped in W WA). Most of the pre-frontal air has started to dry up so that the frontal lift is lifting (literally) hot air. (3) A possibility of interesting convection initiating along the Cobar to Wagga Wagga line and E of it. Surface dewpoints have started to mix out from the W within the area of NW flow and very high surface temperatures (nearly 40 C in SW NSW at 10 am). The 23Z Cobar and Wagga soundings will give crucial info on the *moisture depth* in those areas. If the moisture is shallow (~ 50mb or less) it's quite conceivable the all the good moisture will mix out by the late afternoon. Check for capping inversions - they provide an additional failure mode that could keep the region clear of storms. The 18Z AVN has moderate flow over S NSW decreasing to the N. NW flow along the surface would keep the shear below severe requirements. Good luck to those out in the field, Harald -- ------------------------------------------- Harald Richter NOAA/National Severe Storms Laboratory 1313 Halley Circle Norman, OK 73069, U.S.A. ph.: (405) 366-0430 fax: (405) 579-0808 email: hrichter at enterprise.nssl.noaa.gov web: http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/~hrichter ------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Ants building Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:49:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sel wrote: These pictures were taken weeks ago outside my office - ants building above the ground. Perhaps they know something? The scary thing is they are still building higher!!!! Another one who watches the wonders of nature :-) Have noticed in the last week that a lot of gum trees (and others) have dropped quite a few leaves around here. Not just the odd leave or two but quite an amount. Very noticeable with my school bus as the engine being in the back has sucked a lot of these leaves up into the radiator. Perhaps they expect it to become very dry in this area and are shedding the excess??? Watching....... Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Zac" To: Subject: aus-wx: Hunter Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:27:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi list,
 
Mal Ninnes and i are watching what appears to be a Massive Cell, located due West of Williamtown, and South of Scone. Given what we can ascertain given what we can see by visual Obs, the Top of this cell would have to be at least 50,000 feet, and possibly even taller. ( We have both agreed on this figure)
It has massive boiling updraughts, has punched clean thru the Cap, and is clearly visible from Sydney. On radar it swung about 70 degrees to the left at about 7pm.
This has the appearance of a massive Supercell.
Does anyone have any more info about this cell? No warnings have been issued on it to date.
 
Max King.
 X-Sender: andyw at mail.eck.net.au (Unverified) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:53:59 +1100 To: "weather list" From: Andy White Subject: aus-wx: Tallarook report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Was enjoying a front coming through Tallarook this arvo around 18.20 - until some fairly serious (200mm+) Yellow Box started being pushed over. Had a made up i-beam (200 x 100 x 2.5) buckle from the force exerted on our bird netting - approx 120 sq m normal to wind. By the time 4m branches started flying past the car - I must admit I got a bit nervous... Can someone please tell me how I can get the radar loop from about 18.15 - 18.30 ? Thanks, Andy White - Tallarook, VIC -- andy.white at starless.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:23:53 +1100 (EDT) From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at zeppo.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Melbourne Thunderstorms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Melbourne local radar showed quite a bit of activity to the north of Melbourne, drifting to the southeast. At the moment, things have just passed to the east of me at Clayton (below 'd' in St Kilda) and there was quite frequent lightning with flashes every 5-20 secs. Unfortunately due to all the precipitation, these were only seen as flashes, ie no forks etc. Some nice soothing rumbles of thunder as well. Regarding precip, probably got a couple of mm as a 10-20mm passed over for a few minutes. With the sun setting, the view to the west was a beautiful orange, and a faintish rainbow could be seen in the northeast. I hope other Melbournites were successful in chasing some of this, as there had been quite a few red patches on the radar earlier. Also some severe thunderstorm warnings were issued by the Bureau, with the latest one issued at 7:37pm: Severe Thunderstorm Warning for the Melbourne Metropolitan Area Issued at 7:37pm on Tuesday the 28th of November 2000 The first line of severe thunderstorms has cleared eastern suburbs but another area of storms has moved into northwestern suburbs and is expected to move southeastwards across the metropolitan area during the next hour and a half. Heavy rainfall, wind squalls to 100km/h and hail are still possible. This warning will be reviewed at 9.00pm and should not be used after that time. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler E-mail robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ Department of Mathematics and Statistics \ Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather Observations" To: Subject: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 17:32:14 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hey all!!!!!
 
Looks like the TC season is ready to get going with a Tropical low just East of Christmas Island! The BoM have just issued a TC Watch for Christmas Island.
I hope it holds out for a few more days because I went for Dec 5th for the first TC to form hehe.
 
IDW50W21
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
 
Media: The Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this warning.
 
PRIORITY
 
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 1
Issued at 4:00 pm WST on Tuesday, 28 November 2000
BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH
 
A TROPICAL CYCLONE WATCH is now current for the community on Christmas Island.
 
At 3:00 pm WST a tropical low was estimated to be 110 kilometres southeast of
Christmas Island and was moving slowly southwest.  The low may develop into a
tropical cyclone on Wednesday night or Thursday, and depending on its distance
from Christmas Island, gales may develop on the Island during Wednesday night or
Thursday.
 
Details of tropical low at 3 pm WST.
 
  Location of centre : within 50 kilometres of
                       Latitude 11.0 South Longtitude 106.5 East.
  Recent movement    : Slowly towards the southwest.
  Central Pressure   : 1005 hPa.
  Maximum wind gusts : below 70 kilometres per hour near the centre.
  Severity category  : Below tropical cyclone strength.
 
The next warning will be issued at 7:00 pm WST, then every 6 hours.
 
This advice is available by dialling 1300 659 210.
Regards
 
JJ
 
Karratha WA
Max temperature of 39.1C here today at 11:01am, STILL no 40C for the month of November yet.........with 2 days to go
 
ICQ 6187498
 
 
 From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Was: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO developing Low NE of Nhulunbuy Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:16:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
And there is a developing Low near Nhulunbuy which the BOM says is in a favourable environment.
 
Looks like some interesting action to come soon - hey JJ!!! GO the TC. The 10 day rain outlook model also has Darwin on the edge/ in the 250mm + for 2 weeks! Get the boat!!
 
Paul in Darwin
 
IDF20D06
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
Northern Territory Region
Darwin Regional Forecasting Centre

TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK

TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK
FOR THE AREA BETWEEN LONGITUDES 125 EAST - 142 EAST
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY, DARWIN
at 1:28 pm CST Tuesday 28 NOVEMBER 2000

A broad area of low pressure is centred in the southeast Arafura Sea
Location........near 11S 140E
........i.e. about 180 nautical miles [330 km] ENE of Nhulunbuy
Central pressure: 1004 hPa
Recent movement : near stationary

DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL
Next 24h : low
24-48 h : low
48-72 h : moderate

NOTE: Development Potential is an estimate of the probability of tropical
cyclone development within each 24 hour period...
LOW = 10% or less MODERATE = 20% - 40% HIGH = 50% or more.

REMARKS
The low is expected to move towards the west during the next 2-3 days and may
deepen later in the week.
From: "Matthew Piper" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Pics of Hunter Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:52:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, Here are some pics of the storm in the Hunter which Max mentioned earlier. I took these around 745PM from outside my home in Blaxland. For reference I am well over 100 km from the storm so you can see just how big this storm was. The funny thing is though there was hardly any lightning on the tracker from it and on radar it wasnt really impressive. Anyway you can see some magnificent overshooting and backshearing in the pics as well as mammatus hanging from under the anvil. http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/Nov28thStorm/ Matthew Piper +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "bussie" To: "weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Melb storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:47:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robert wrote: Melbourne local radar showed quite a bit of activity to the north of Melbourne, drifting to the southeast. At the moment, things have just passed to the east of me at Clayton (below 'd' in St Kilda) and there was quite frequent lightning with flashes every 5-20 secs. Unfortunately due to all the precipitation, these were only seen as flashes, Looking at the radar it's a wonder you could see anything. Looked pretty wild and hairy there for a while, and as you mentioned, quite a few reds on the radar. Supposed to be some strong winds accompanying it too I think. Bussie (NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Matthew Piper" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Panoramic Shot of the 26th Nov Sydney Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:03:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, Ive uploaded some more pics of the storm that brought hail to Liverpool last Sunday. Goto http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/ and look at pics 1 to 30. Theres some really fantastic shots in there. Also I have created a panoramic view of the whole storm. Goto http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/Nov26th_2000_storm_panora ma.jpg for the low resolution version and http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/November_26th_Storm_Panor ama.jpg for the high resolution. Matthew Piper +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dane Newman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Mt Beauty Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:15:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bit of a storm came through here between 8.30pm and 9.00pm. quite frequent mostly cc lightning with a few anvil crawlers. Moderately loud thunder, not much rain. Storm now (9.15pm) receeding to the east. Top temperature here today was 32.0c. Dane. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rhett - AJ" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Panoramic Shot of the 26th Nov Sydney Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:09:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nice shots Matthew, I've got my act together and put my photos from the 26th on the web at: http://www7.ewebcity.com/nwweather/reports_reports.asp?id=16 Sorry if the site is a bit slow, I've been planning to get a better and faster host with a real domain name for going "live" with the site I've been putting together but that will have to wait until after Christmas now. In the meantime, I hope it works. Rhett ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Piper" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: Panoramic Shot of the 26th Nov Sydney Storm > Hi Everyone, > > Ive uploaded some more pics of the storm that brought hail to Liverpool last > Sunday. > > Goto http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/ and look at pics 1 > to 30. > > Theres some really fantastic shots in there. > > Also I have created a panoramic view of the whole storm. > > Goto > http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/Nov26th_2000_storm_panora > ma.jpg > for the low resolution version and > http://www.geocities.com/eastcoastlow2000/november/November_26th_Storm_Panor > ama.jpg > for the high resolution. > > Matthew Piper > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 16:01:26 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: aus-wx: Xmas party. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Can't seem to find details in email re the Brisbane ASWA/BSCH Christmas party - any chance of sending it on? I will try to come. December 10 as a date is all I have from ASWA news. Sel. At 07:16 15/11/00 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Den, > >Channel 33 will get you onto other storm chasing folk on this list :) I >think Jane, Macca, Clyve and Greg all have CB radios in Melbourne. I'm >still waiting for some Brisbane folk to get CB's in their car (hint hint >:) Meanwhile, CB radios will be the primary source of communication >between cars on TD2K (Thunder Downunder 2000). They're cheap, simple >and easy to use - and it's worth it's weight on gold if you're chasing >with another car (you amount of petrol you continually use to stop and >talk to the other car(s), the mobile bills to phone the other car(s) if >you happen to be lucky enough to be in mobile coverage, the general >inconveinience of it all etc). They're also great for warning of >impending danger (ie, animal on the road, something lying across the >road, police radar :) etc. > >AC > >> dencot wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> Just wondering wether anybody still uses CB radios when they chase. My >> 10 year old drag out my old CB and said why dont we use this to >> contact other ASWA people on the road. I was about to tell him it was >> old tech. until he reminded me it might make up for mobile telephone >> costs compared to fuel costs . >> >> ? Well do we still use them , and if so on what channel ? >> >> Den > >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sel Kerans Coordinator \|/ &&&&& Project Atmosphere Australia On-line -0- .--_|\ "/" WWW: http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa /|\ / \ \ Email: skerans at mail.cth.com.au \_.--\_/ EQ: sel.kerans at qed.qld.gov.au v ph 07 3881 9623 fax 07 3881 9640 *** Now taking registrations from schools around the world *** *** On-line activities scheduled for March, April, May 2000 *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:00:58 +1100 From: David Carroll X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 9.58pm.. 28/11 Just heading home and saw lightning flashing to the south of Bathurst, Cowra/Blayney direction. Loaded up lightning tracker and spotted some action going.. Doesnt seem to be really happening at the moment. Is very hot outside even for this time of night.. Bussie whats happening down in your neck of the woods at Rutherglen..!!! Dave Bathurst.. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather Observations" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!!(7pm update) Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:25:37 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
IDW50W21
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
 
Media: The Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this warning.
 
PRIORITY
 
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 2
Issued at 7:00 pm WST on Tuesday, 28 November 2000
BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH
 
A TROPICAL CYCLONE WATCH is now current for the community on Christmas Island.
 
At 6:00 pm WST a tropical low was estimated to be 110 kilometres southeast of
Christmas Island and was moving slowly southwest.  The low may develop into a
tropical cyclone on Wednesday night or Thursday, and depending on its distance
from Christmas Island, gales may develop on the Island during Wednesday night or
Thursday.
 
Details of tropical low at 6 pm WST.
 
  Location of centre : within 50 kilometres of
                       Latitude 11.0 South Longtitude 106.5 East.
  Recent movement    : Slowly towards the southwest.
  Central Pressure   : 1003 hPa.
  Maximum wind gusts : below 70 kilometres per hour near the centre.
  Severity category  : Below tropical cyclone strength.
 
The next warning will be issued at 1:00 am WST Wednesday.
 
This advice is available by dialling 1300 659 210.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:32 PM
Subject: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey all!!!!!
 
Looks like the TC season is ready to get going with a Tropical low just East of Christmas Island! The BoM have just issued a TC Watch for Christmas Island.
I hope it holds out for a few more days because I went for Dec 5th for the first TC to form hehe.
 
IDW50W21
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
 
Media: The Emergency Warning Signal should NOT be used with this warning.
 
PRIORITY
 
TROPICAL CYCLONE ADVICE NUMBER 1
Issued at 4:00 pm WST on Tuesday, 28 November 2000
BY THE BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
TROPICAL CYCLONE WARNING CENTRE PERTH
 
A TROPICAL CYCLONE WATCH is now current for the community on Christmas Island.
 
At 3:00 pm WST a tropical low was estimated to be 110 kilometres southeast of
Christmas Island and was moving slowly southwest.  The low may develop into a
tropical cyclone on Wednesday night or Thursday, and depending on its distance
from Christmas Island, gales may develop on the Island during Wednesday night or
Thursday.
 
Details of tropical low at 3 pm WST.
 
  Location of centre : within 50 kilometres of
                       Latitude 11.0 South Longtitude 106.5 East.
  Recent movement    : Slowly towards the southwest.
  Central Pressure   : 1005 hPa.
  Maximum wind gusts : below 70 kilometres per hour near the centre.
  Severity category  : Below tropical cyclone strength.
 
The next warning will be issued at 7:00 pm WST, then every 6 hours.
 
This advice is available by dialling 1300 659 210.
Regards
 
JJ
 
Karratha WA
Max temperature of 39.1C here today at 11:01am, STILL no 40C for the month of November yet.........with 2 days to go
 
ICQ 6187498
 
 
 X-Originating-IP: [203.35.254.2] From: "David Croan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Panoramic Shot of the 26th Nov Sydney Storm Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:09:07 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2000 12:09:08.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[026A3460:01C05934] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rhett wrote: >I've got my act together and put my photos from the 26th on the web at: >http://www7.ewebcity.com/nwweather/reports_reports.asp?id=1 Fantastic pics Rhett! This storm was one of the most active in recent memory in terms of lightning. Unfortunately I was dripping oil from the car overnight, and so couldn't chase. Nevertheless we have a very good view to the north from our house on the Nthn beaches - lightning was just continuous, 2-3 flashes / sec with some beautiful anvil crawlers. Tomorrow looks a little interesting! Regards, david _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Pearce" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tornado on TD2K + 4 happy/tired chasers Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:35:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all A tornado was filmed by Anthony, Macca, Matt and Greg about 10km north of Mullalley this afternoon, which is south of Boggabri and west of Gunnedah for those who don't have a clue where I'm talking about. Basically, the situation started with a rainshaft out of the storm, through which the funnel is observed to descend. A feature of all the storms today apparently in the area was the frequency of microbursts, probably due to the very dry boundary layer conditions, and this was ultimately the downfall of the tornado. The funnel descended further and a debris cloud was then visible on the ground for about 30 seconds beneath the funnel. Anthony does not believe the storm itself was a supercell and that the vorticity for the tornado may have been aided by the many microbursts in the area...so it was a non-supercellular tornado...something we are seeing more and more in Australia over recent months. A brief chronolgy of events surrounding the tornado was as follows: 5:25:38 - funnel first sighted 5:25:42 - condensation funnel extends to ground 5:26:32 - condensation funnel retracts from ground 5:28:02 - tornado disappears from sight due to a microburst sweeping down in front of it Therefore, the tornado may still have been there after this time, it is just that they couldn't see it due to the microburst. Tonight, they are at Mudgee after watching the aforementioned storm from Max's email in the Hunter for a while, going through video footage. The next few days look like they are going to go off big time in central eastern NSW, with conditions just getting better and better towards the end of the week. The only thing I was worried about was PBL moisture but this appears to no longer be a worry as afternoon soundings showed today a semi-deep layer of decent DPs, and the DP at Mudgee is currently 19C. The potential is there for an outbreak of severe storms over the next 48 hours... Matt +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.132.32.209] From: "Liam Domanski" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Funnel cloud/possible tornado in VIC Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:29:12 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Nov 2000 12:29:12.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[D08FB980:01C05936] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I've just been out chasing some of these great storms this arvo. A lot of flash flooding around the Eastern suburbs. I was on Anderson's Creek Rd in Donvale at about 18:00, and the rain was so heavy, I had to stop the car coz I couldn't see! The gutters were overflowing and the road under about 10cm of water in about 2 mins!!!!! I then followed the storm out to Coldstream, and I saw a funnel cloud/possible tornado at about 19:10, from West Coldstream Rd. It was fairly large, with highly visible rotation and several multiple vortex areas extending downwards. I have some shots that I took of it, but unfortunately missed some of the first few bits as I was mesmerised for a minute by the sight, before stumbling for my camera. It lasted approx 4 mins, before it began to retract and lose structure. I could not see the ground where it may have touched down, as it was behind a small hill. The funnel extended to almost halfway to the ground at one point. I'll post the photos soon! _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Karratha Weather Observations" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO developing Low NE of Nhulunbuy Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:52:34 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hehehe
Great to hear Paul! :)
AVN is also picking up the Tropical Low / Tropical Cyclone (Winsome) 994hPa If it forms in Darwin's TC area north of Darwin in 72 hrs!!!
Bring it on!!!!! :D
 
JJ
Karratha WA
ICQ 6187498
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 5:46 PM
Subject: Was: aus-wx: TC Watch for Christmas Island!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALSO developing Low NE of Nhulunbuy

And there is a developing Low near Nhulunbuy which the BOM says is in a favourable environment.
 
Looks like some interesting action to come soon - hey JJ!!! GO the TC. The 10 day rain outlook model also has Darwin on the edge/ in the 250mm + for 2 weeks! Get the boat!!
 
Paul in Darwin
 
IDF20D06
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
Northern Territory Region
Darwin Regional Forecasting Centre

TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK

TROPICAL CYCLONE OUTLOOK
FOR THE AREA BETWEEN LONGITUDES 125 EAST - 142 EAST
Issued by the BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY, DARWIN
at 1:28 pm CST Tuesday 28 NOVEMBER 2000

A broad area of low pressure is centred in the southeast Arafura Sea
Location........near 11S 140E
........i.e. about 180 nautical miles [330 km] ENE of Nhulunbuy
Central pressure: 1004 hPa
Recent movement : near stationary

DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL
Next 24h : low
24-48 h : low
48-72 h : moderate

NOTE: Development Potential is an estimate of the probability of tropical
cyclone development within each 24 hour period...
LOW = 10% or less MODERATE = 20% - 40% HIGH = 50% or more.

REMARKS
The low is expected to move towards the west during the next 2-3 days and may
deepen later in the week.
From: "Liam Domanski" To: Subject: aus-wx: Funnel cloud/possible tornado in VIC Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 21:27:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 
I've just been out chasing some of these great storms this arvo.
 
A lot of flash flooding around the Eastern suburbs.   I was on Anderson's Creek Rd in Donvale at about 18:00, and the rain was so heavy, I had to stop the car coz I couldn't see!
 
The gutters were overflowing and the road under about 10cm of water in about 2 mins!!!!!
 
I then followed the storm out to Coldstream, and I saw a funnel cloud/possible tornado at about 19:10, from West Coldstream Rd.
 
It was fairly large, with highly visible rotation and several multiple vortex areas extending downwards.  I have some shots that I took of it, but unfortunately missed some of the first few bits as I was mesmerised for a minute by the sight, before stumbling for my camera.
 
It lasted approx 4 mins, before it began to retract and lose structure.
 
 
I'll post the photos soon!