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From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:00:33 +1000
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Jane wrote:

<Snip>

Did anyone spend a lot of their day watching the sky today?
.......
virga & waves galore.........a beautiful sight!!

<Snip>

Seen a fair bit of virga and waves around this area this
arvo as well. Looked quite nice. Virga thickened up around
4ish

PaulY

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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 00:08:29 +0800
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Yeah.
I really did have a look at it.
The moon is almost a long forgotten stranger here with our constantly 
polluted skies.
This webcam shows instantly how much clearer skies are in Australia 
compared with Hong Kong.  A webcam on the moon wouldn't have a hope here.

Phil
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> hi all,
> just muckin around tonight with my camera. thought this might interest
> some
> ppl if bored. you can watch the moon cross the sky live!!
> WHHHEEEEEEE!!!!!
> anyway, go here http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/webcam.html
> 
> 
> 
> Steve Baynham
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Low snow line Vic.
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Hi all.
Just outside checking conditions here on the central Vic coast, some nice
but small cold air CBs with tops about 12 to 15.000ft, snow streaks however
are getting down to about 500 to 600m, some small hail about too, regards
Clyve H.

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Weak thermal low Gippsland.
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Hi all.
Seems to a weak thermal low east of Melbourne this morning with some
enhanced cold air CBs over south Gippsland although weak may move into
eastern Bass Strait this morning interesting to see if this identity deepens
later over warm water.
regards Clyve Herbert.

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Hey all

Well a welcome sight (sound!) to heavy rain pretty much all night last 
night, this rainfall amounted to 6.3mm in my guage. It rained from about 
10:15pm till at 8am this morning. Before the front I got some snaps of the 
prefrontal stuff with false funnels, vigras and a few nice low, swirly, wild 
looking cloud bottoms.

Here in Ballarat: Alfredton, I received 13.5mm of rain for July which is 
well below par largest fall was 3mm which was on the 1st of July and there 
was 14 days of percipitation, and most of the rainfall I got were not from 
Coldfronts or rain bands but from drizzle, Cjs'n'Cbs because of upper lows.

Currently in Ballarat it is cold with a gusty SSW wind with showers zooming 
across with the wind, perhaps some cold air Cbs this avo with tiny hail.

Regards
Les
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi Phil.

I guess with the high humidity, pollution and bright lights you wouldn't
have much luck in HK.  Here is Brisbane at this time of year the humidity is
low, pollution almost non-existent due to westerly flows with an atmosphere
rather thinner than HK, and with usually no cloud at night.  So we get
beautiful skys with good still viewing.  Mars is particularly dominant atm.
I am 28k's out of the city and the Milky way, Magellanic clouds, and
Plieades (spelling??) are all clear and detailed, plus things like the Orion
nebula are visible to the naked eye.  A pair of 10x binocs resolves many of
the larger star clusters as well as moons of Jupiter when it is in the sky.

John.
>snip

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Yeah.
I really did have a look at it.
The moon is almost a long forgotten stranger here with our constantly
polluted skies.
This webcam shows instantly how much clearer skies are in Australia
compared with Hong Kong.  A webcam on the moon wouldn't have a hope here.

Phil

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From: "Geelong Weather Services" <gws at pipeline.com.au>
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:42:34 +1000
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Yes Jane - lots of mammatus over Geelong on Tuesday afternoon (3-4 pm) but
no precipitation until later (around 4 mm overnight).  Lindsay Smail.

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Evening all,


Did anyone spend a lot of their day watching the sky today?   .......
virga & waves galore.........a beautiful sight!!

Currently interesting temperatures in July in Melbourne in the
prefrontal northerlies:

11.1C on Mt Dandenong at 500m
14.8C here (100m) on the southern side of the house out of the wind
17.8C on the western side of the house directly in the wind flow
16.4C in the centre of the backyard, and
I haven't checked the thermometer down near the garage............yet!

Dewpoint is currently 4.6C - with pressure down to 1007hPa.  Lowest
pressure in Tasmania is 998.6 but they are falling & rising very quickly
as the front passes through.

Judging by the pressures in the south of the state, the southern portion
of the front appears to be accelerating as it is becoming more
longitudinal & there's a kink in the western edge of the cloudband just
west of Tasmania.  hmmmm.......

Jane

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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had a look at the 12:00 obseravations for the 
AWS's in NSW. I noticed that there&nbsp;had been a sharp drop in temperatures 
and DP in the last few hours across Southern Tablelands. At Cooma the 
temperature dropped from 6.5° at 10:00 to 1.0° at 11:00.&nbsp;The temperature 
rose slightly&nbsp;again to 3.2°.&nbsp;There has been a total of 4.6 mm of rain 
since 9am. With temps as low as&nbsp;they it makes me wonder how much of that 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It appears as though the Snowies are copping snow 
today&nbsp;with a current temperature of around -4° at Thredbo AWS and -1° at 
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I also noticed Cooma's dramatic drop in temperature this morning. Would
it have snowed there? 1 degree is cold enough for it to snow!
Here at my place in North Katoomba (Blue Mountains NSW) there have been
gale force winds all day, the strongest I believe this season. The
temperature got quiet mild today, around 9 or 10 degrees but now at 2 pm
the temperature has dropped dramatically to 5 degrees as the dark clouds
roll in & the rain starts to fall. We need the rain first so the
temperature then drops, making way for snow tonight PLEASE PLEASE
PLEASE!

All Katoomba's July maximum & minimum temperatures, rainfall & frost has
been recorded on my web site at:
http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html

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From: Simon_Wild at hyder.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney Wind Speed Increase
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Hello All

I am currently sat in the 13th floor in a building in St Leonards and have
noticed a sudden increase in wind speed over the last half an hour. The
glass is rattling around in the frame at quite a disconcerting manner. Not
sure what speed it is but it's coming from the south. Does this mean we are
due for some bad weather??

Simon

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
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> 
> I had a look at the 12:00 obseravations for the AWS's in NSW. I noticed =
> that there had been a sharp drop in temperatures and DP in the last few =
> hours across Southern Tablelands. At Cooma the temperature dropped from =
> 6.5=B0 at 10:00 to 1.0=B0 at 11:00. The temperature rose slightly again =
> to 3.2=B0. There has been a total of 4.6 mm of rain since 9am. With =
> temps as low as they it makes me wonder how much of that 4.6 mm fall as =
> snow or sleet.

Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to 1400),
not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's 
been hovering around 2-4 all day.

Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!

Blair
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It is rare for it to actually snow in Cooma itself.  It has been -10 in town
and no snow. (Lovely outside with no shoes on!!!!!) There was an explanation
as to why previously, I think it is due to the protection of the surrounding
landscape.

Very strong winds in Cessnock as well.  Has been for two days now.

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> I also noticed Cooma's dramatic drop in temperature this morning. Would
> it have snowed there? 1 degree is cold enough for it to snow!
> Here at my place in North Katoomba (Blue Mountains NSW) there have been
> gale force winds all day, the strongest I believe this season. The
> temperature got quiet mild today, around 9 or 10 degrees but now at 2 pm
> the temperature has dropped dramatically to 5 degrees as the dark clouds
> roll in & the rain starts to fall. We need the rain first so the
> temperature then drops, making way for snow tonight PLEASE PLEASE
> PLEASE!
>
> All Katoomba's July maximum & minimum temperatures, rainfall & frost has
> been recorded on my web site at:
> http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html
>
> Damian
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Just saw a peice of building fly off from about the 10th floor. Narrowly
missed cars and people as it landed on a road nearby, good view from up
here.

So whats causing the wind speed increase?

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Hi All

Currently at the Warringah Pittwater (Terrey Hills, Northern Beaches, Sydney) Emergency Control Centre the wind is 38kph gusting to 57kph from the SW. The guys building our new Fire Spotting tower are currently at the 40m mark and do you think they are having fun !! not



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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
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> 
> It is rare for it to actually snow in Cooma itself.  It has been -10 in town
> and no snow. (Lovely outside with no shoes on!!!!!) There was an explanation
> as to why previously, I think it is due to the protection of the surrounding
> landscape.
> 

Agree with you on the rarity of snow in Cooma (it's in a massive 
rainshadow - the mean July rainfall is lower than it is anywhere else in
NSW east of Bourke), but the AWS data shows precipitation during the
period when it dropped to 1.0. Bear in mind that the airport AWS 
is ~100 metres higher than the town, which can make a difference in
a marginal snow situation.

Snow has been reported in Jindabyne on the ski.com.au forum.

Blair
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi All,

Quite a few new faces on here recently :) welcome all!

The BoM have current obs at http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65066.shtml
which is a good place to check out local happenings.  The winds are being
generated by the pressure gradient between a deep low South of Tassie (with
associated frontal passage) and the arrival of new High in the Bight.

Wouldn't catch me 40m up a tower atm (& probably not at any time!)

John
>snip

Hi All

Currently at the Warringah Pittwater (Terrey Hills, Northern Beaches,
Sydney) Emergency Control Centre the wind is 38kph gusting to 57kph from the
SW. The guys building our new Fire Spotting tower are currently at the 40m
mark and do you think they are having fun !! not

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Gday simonj i believe its a frontal system its semi strong some trees down i
heard on scanner its not that gooda wind :()
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>
> Just saw a peice of building fly off from about the 10th floor. Narrowly
> missed cars and people as it landed on a road nearby, good view from up
> here.
>
> So whats causing the wind speed increase?
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From: "Carolyn" <carolyn at netcentral.com.au>
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Blair,
Airport is 25km from Cooma itself.  Hence the differences.

Carolyn
>
> Agree with you on the rarity of snow in Cooma (it's in a massive
> rainshadow - the mean July rainfall is lower than it is anywhere else in
> NSW east of Bourke), but the AWS data shows precipitation during the
> period when it dropped to 1.0. Bear in mind that the airport AWS
> is ~100 metres higher than the town, which can make a difference in
> a marginal snow situation.
>
> Snow has been reported in Jindabyne on the ski.com.au forum.
>
> Blair
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Winds suddenly went from near calm to 25/30kn gusts at 14:14 precisely
at Clemtpon Park.  The last hour has been constantly gusty from the
SW.
Spot winds from the pilots on sydney approach:
7000ft, multiple small balloons !!!  Apparently got loose from a child
!!!
6000ft/260/40kn
5000ft/255/45kn
Tower, (120.5Mhz) 15:48pm, RW25 Wind 235/245 25/35kn Temp 14


Latest TAF YSSY
05:38 UTC, 01/08/2001
TAF AMD YSSY 010536Z 0606 24020G35KT 9999 -SHRA SCT050 SCT150
FM07 19020G35KT 9999 -SHRA SCT030 SCT100
FM13 22015KT 9999 FEW030 SCT050
FM19 29007KT 9999 FEW030 SCT050
FM01 16007KT 9999 FEW040
FM06 MOD TURB BLW 5000FT TILL 13
T 13 11 09 08 Q 1012 1014 1017 1018

Latest Area 21
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/area21_arf.shtml
03:41 UTC, 01/08/2001
AMEND AREA FORECAST 010400 TO 011700 AREA 21

AMD OVERVIEW:
SIGMET CURRENT FOR OCCASIONAL SEVERE TURBULENCE BELOW 10000 RANGES AND
EAST SOUTH OF ABOUT 34S BUT IS EXPECTED TO CEASE BY 08Z. TROUGH IN
LOWER LEVELS IS NEAR NOWRA/CANBERRA AT 04Z, EXPECTED TO NEAR SYDNEY
BATHURST BY 08Z. PATCHY RAIN EAST OF TROUGH. ISOLATED SHOWERS WEST OF
TROUGH, CHIEFLY IN S, FALLING AS SNOW RANGES ABOVE 1000M. AREAS OF LOW
CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE DEVELOPING W SLOPES.  

SUBDIVISIONS:
A: E OF TROUGH
B: W OF TROUGH

WIND:
2000    5000    7000     10000        14000        18500   
A:300/35  290/40  280/40   280/55 MS03  280/55 MS09  280/60 MS17
B:240/25  250/35  260/30   260/35 MS06  270/45 MS13  280/55 MS21

AMD CLOUD:
BKN ST 1500/2500 W SLOPES, BKN ST 3000/4500 S RANGES WITH SH/SN.
BKN CU 2500/8000 SEA/COAST.
BKN CU 3000/8000 RANGES/SLOPES. 
BKN ACAS ABOVE 10000 E OF THE TROUGH. 

AMD WEATHER:
PATCHY RA/SHRA, SN, DZ

AMD VISIBILITY:
5000M RA/SHRA, 3000M DZ/SN

AMD FREEZING LEVEL:
A:6000 B:4500

AMD ICING:
MOD IN CU TOPS AND ACAS

TURBULENCE:  
OCNL SEV BELOW 10000 RANGES/EAST [SEE SIGMET]. MOD BELOW 8000 REST OF
RANGES/COAST. MOD IN CU/AC.

CRITICAL LOCATIONS: [CLOUD ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL]
MT VICTORIA: 9999 -SHRA BKN CU 5000  
BOWRAL: 9999 -SHRA BKN CU 5000
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From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: Snow In Oberon
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HI All..

Just had report from staff in Oberon that snow is falling, also at
Shooters Hill.Has been snowing since 3pm. . Appar temp is very cold now..

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Winds suddenly went from near calm to 25/30kn gusts at 14:14 precisely
at Clemtpon Park.  The last hour has been constantly gusty from the
SW.
Spot winds from the pilots on sydney approach:
7000ft, multiple small balloons !!!  Apparently got loose from a child
!!!
6000ft/260/40kn
5000ft/255/45kn
Tower, (120.5Mhz) 15:48pm, RW25 Wind 235/245 25/35kn Temp 14


Latest TAF YSSY
05:38 UTC, 01/08/2001
TAF AMD YSSY 010536Z 0606 24020G35KT 9999 -SHRA SCT050 SCT150
FM07 19020G35KT 9999 -SHRA SCT030 SCT100
FM13 22015KT 9999 FEW030 SCT050
FM19 29007KT 9999 FEW030 SCT050
FM01 16007KT 9999 FEW040
FM06 MOD TURB BLW 5000FT TILL 13
T 13 11 09 08 Q 1012 1014 1017 1018

Latest Area 21
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/area21_arf.shtml
03:41 UTC, 01/08/2001
AMEND AREA FORECAST 010400 TO 011700 AREA 21

AMD OVERVIEW:
SIGMET CURRENT FOR OCCASIONAL SEVERE TURBULENCE BELOW 10000 RANGES AND
EAST SOUTH OF ABOUT 34S BUT IS EXPECTED TO CEASE BY 08Z. TROUGH IN
LOWER LEVELS IS NEAR NOWRA/CANBERRA AT 04Z, EXPECTED TO NEAR SYDNEY
BATHURST BY 08Z. PATCHY RAIN EAST OF TROUGH. ISOLATED SHOWERS WEST OF
TROUGH, CHIEFLY IN S, FALLING AS SNOW RANGES ABOVE 1000M. AREAS OF LOW
CLOUD WITH DRIZZLE DEVELOPING W SLOPES.  

SUBDIVISIONS:
A: E OF TROUGH
B: W OF TROUGH

WIND:
2000    5000    7000     10000        14000        18500   
A:300/35  290/40  280/40   280/55 MS03  280/55 MS09  280/60 MS17
B:240/25  250/35  260/30   260/35 MS06  270/45 MS13  280/55 MS21

AMD CLOUD:
BKN ST 1500/2500 W SLOPES, BKN ST 3000/4500 S RANGES WITH SH/SN.
BKN CU 2500/8000 SEA/COAST.
BKN CU 3000/8000 RANGES/SLOPES. 
BKN ACAS ABOVE 10000 E OF THE TROUGH. 

AMD WEATHER:
PATCHY RA/SHRA, SN, DZ

AMD VISIBILITY:
5000M RA/SHRA, 3000M DZ/SN

AMD FREEZING LEVEL:
A:6000 B:4500

AMD ICING:
MOD IN CU TOPS AND ACAS

TURBULENCE:  
OCNL SEV BELOW 10000 RANGES/EAST [SEE SIGMET]. MOD BELOW 8000 REST OF
RANGES/COAST. MOD IN CU/AC.

CRITICAL LOCATIONS: [CLOUD ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL]
MT VICTORIA: 9999 -SHRA BKN CU 5000  
BOWRAL: 9999 -SHRA BKN CU 5000

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I thought it was it was very much like one it was oocumpanyed by a rainbow
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From: "Bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Heard on the radio at 8.30 this morning that snow was falling at Falls creek
(Vic) at the rate of 3cm an hour. Haven't had a look at any figures so don't
know if that is correct or not.
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Um. Stronger winds!
Sorry, (un)humour at work. Where are you Simon. I've had a windy day here as
well with the max gust at 50 kmh from the SW at 2.26pm and a massive dump of
point 6 mm of rain. Currently the wind has died right off in the last hour
or so and is running at about 5kmh from WNW.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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>
> Just saw a peice of building fly off from about the 10th floor. Narrowly
> missed cars and people as it landed on a road nearby, good view from up
> here.
>
> So whats causing the wind speed increase?
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If you reciever an email from me containg the following, delete it. It
aparently has a virus

Time:  1-8-2001 20:55.53
Subject: Photographer
From: acole at flexi.net.au
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Sorry for the trouble

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Actually, please ignore all emails sent from me for today

Seems i have got a virus that changes it's attachment and subject line



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Adam, problem is this virus acts like a worm and changes with each email it
sends........so it could be something different to the next
person....sorry...

Carolyn
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> If you reciever an email from me containg the following, delete it. It
> aparently has a virus
>
> Time:  1-8-2001 20:55.53
> Subject: Photographer
> From: acole at flexi.net.au
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>
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>
>
> Sorry for the trouble
>
> Adam
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 14:21:40 +1000
From: Andrew Miskelly <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
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Damian,

Unfortunately I think the temps will rise with the passing of the front.
There doesn't seem to be any persisting cold air with this one.
Temperatures are already slowly recovering in Cooma, Bathurst, Orange
and Goulburn where they also fell very steeply with the front.

Winds gusting out to 35-40 Kts here in Wollongong now...

Andrew.


Tony & Damian wrote:
> 
> I also noticed Cooma's dramatic drop in temperature this morning. Would
> it have snowed there? 1 degree is cold enough for it to snow!
> Here at my place in North Katoomba (Blue Mountains NSW) there have been
> gale force winds all day, the strongest I believe this season. The
> temperature got quiet mild today, around 9 or 10 degrees but now at 2 pm
> the temperature has dropped dramatically to 5 degrees as the dark clouds
> roll in & the rain starts to fall. We need the rain first so the
> temperature then drops, making way for snow tonight PLEASE PLEASE
> PLEASE!
> 
> All Katoomba's July maximum & minimum temperatures, rainfall & frost has
> been recorded on my web site at:
> http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html
> 
> Damian
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: OFF TOPIC VIRUS ALLERT
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Hi guys

Yes I too have been infected with this worm as has a number of JCU students
in Townsville. It is a real pain in the ass. Just please make sure you have
some updated virus software (i.e Norton, etc) running when opening your
attachments/emails. Also try to avoid using Outlook to view emails as the
Sircam worm was developed to target Microsoft applications and utilises the
gaping holes in the program code of Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Explorer to
its advantage (A big drawback for Microsoft's user friendliness)

I have an exe file that the uni sent me and I can send to anyone who has
been infected with the virus to delete it from your system in case your
virus software won't do it. Please email me privately and I will send it out
to you along with instructions. The virus will continue to effect your
system/email until it is deleted/removed. I learnt that the hard way.

CHEERS: Chris Nitso


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> Adam, problem is this virus acts like a worm and changes with each email
it
> sends........so it could be something different to the next
> person....sorry...
>
> Carolyn
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > If you reciever an email from me containg the following, delete it. It
> > aparently has a virus
> >
> > Time:  1-8-2001 20:55.53
> > Subject: Photographer
> > From: acole at flexi.net.au
> > To: auslig at auslig.gov.au
> >
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> >
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> > Encoding: Base64
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> >
> >
> > Sorry for the trouble
> >
> > Adam
> >
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: aus-wx: August record low at Cowra
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A new August record minimum of -6.9 was set this morning at
Cowra Airport. This is their third lowest minimum on record 
(following -8.0 on 27/7/1994 and -7.0 on 27/7/1986) for any month.

One of the site's nearest neighbours, Young, got -5, so I think it's
probably a valid observation.

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HI..

On my Wm 918 weather station in Bathurst i also recorded -6.9..   very nice
cold frost this morning.

AWS at Bathurst Airport states -4.5..  My house is a good few hundred feet
lower than Bx Airport......


Dave

Bathurst.


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A new August record minimum of -6.9 was set this morning at
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(following -8.0 on 27/7/1994 and -7.0 on 27/7/1986) for any month.

One of the site's nearest neighbours, Young, got -5, so I think it's
probably a valid observation.

Blair
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Subject: aus-wx: A mild June/July in SE Australia
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It will come as no surprise to snow-watchers that June and July
have been abnormally mild in parts of SE Australia; whilst June 2001
was generally somewhat cooler than June 1957 and 1991, and July 2001
cooler than July 1975, the combined two-month means were notably
high in both Melbourne and Sydney.

For the two-month period:

Melbourne	max 15.2 (equal 4th; record 15.5 in 1957)
		min 8.8 (highest on record; previously 8.7, 1991)
		mean 12.0 (highest on record; previously 11.9, 1991)

Sydney		max 18.7 (2nd; highest 18.8, 1921)
		min 9.9 (nothing too exceptional)
		mean 14.3 (2nd; highest 14.5, 1988)

In addition, Hobart did not have any sub-10 degree days in July
(although it did get one yesterday!). This is only the second such 
July (after 1930).

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 More than 150 Country Energy field staff braved the gale-force winds which 
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Hi all,

I think for those who haven't seen this link and don't mind stories of 
storm chasing, this article on the May 3 outbreak is a very humble and 
informative one

http://www.icflorida.com/shared/weather/tornadotracker/okc/index.html

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Perry Drive - 13 mm in 30 minutes at 4.20 pm. Where's Perry Drive AWs - 
somewhere in western Coffs I think??
Cheers,
don W

David Sercombe wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> 
> Just a quick note on the storm close to Coffs yesterday (Fri) afternoon.
> 
> I had just come home from school and looked out to the west (ie towards 
> Dorrigo) and saw a very suspect looking cloud there. I couldn't identify 
> it as a storm just yet but I thought i'd keep an eye on it.
> 
> Anyway, five min's later, there was a rumble of thunder! A quick look 
> out to the west again, showing a relatively menacing wall of rain coming 
> towards Coffs. Then took a look at the radar over the next 30 mins, 
> showed the storm turning in a NE direction, and heading towards 
> Woolgoolga (approx 20km North of Coffs). During this time, there was 
> pink almost all the time, and in one frame, a spot of red. (that would 
> explain the hail that Ian Isles got)
> 
> At my place, we only got 1.5 mm from it. I also talked to my father when 
> he came home and he told me he was talking to a fellow (at a place 
> halfway between Coffs and Woolgoolga) and he said it was absolutely 
> pouring where he was!
> 
> But the storm was so featureless, that there was no point in taking photos!
> 
> Anyway, enough from me,
> 
> David Sercombe,
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> I am currently sat in the 13th floor in a building in St Leonards and have
> noticed a sudden increase in wind speed over the last half an hour. The
> glass is rattling around in the frame at quite a disconcerting manner. Not
> sure what speed it is but it's coming from the south. Does this
> mean we are
> due for some bad weather??

Just stepped outside (Kingsgrove) and was quite surprised at how much it had
picked up... It does "feel" stormy, but I'm still not used to how weather
works here in Sydney...

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I was watching the ABC news the other day and noticed the new satellite 
animation and the synoptic animation. ITs still not as good as Channel 9's 
Today program of a morning but.

I reckon they (abc) could include a time for each frame in both animations.

I actually rely on these presentations when i'm away from the net for a few 
days.

enough from me,

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Hi midlats.
At last things are looking better for Victoria and Tasmania over the next
few weeks with what seems to be a pending procession of fronts troughs and
cold air outbreaks!. An interesting and unusual prognostic chart from the
Mel BOM showing a developing high over the southern Bight area with lows
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Hi David.
I agree, the new ABC presentation was much better , however I was watching
the ch 9 animation the other morning and noticed that they were cheating by
occasionally inserting the 'same  frame' on at least 3 occasions, possibly
using this process to overcome a missing frame. regards Clyve H.
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> I was watching the ABC news the other day and noticed the new satellite
> animation and the synoptic animation. ITs still not as good as Channel 9's
> Today program of a morning but.
>
> I reckon they (abc) could include a time for each frame in both
animations.
>
> I actually rely on these presentations when i'm away from the net for a
few
> days.
>
> enough from me,
>
> David Sercombe
> Coffs Harbour NSW
>
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Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).

Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No visible
snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.

It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past few
years that have yielded snow at Robertson.

Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.

Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll publish
tonight or tomorrow.

Michael





> Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
1400),
> not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> been hovering around 2-4 all day.
>
> Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
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I really like the new presentation. The ABC weather graphics are now
excellent, not before time too.

Michael




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> I was watching the ABC news the other day and noticed the new satellite
> animation and the synoptic animation. ITs still not as good as Channel 9's
> Today program of a morning but.
>
> I reckon they (abc) could include a time for each frame in both
animations.
>
> I actually rely on these presentations when i'm away from the net for a
few
> days.
>
> enough from me,
>
> David Sercombe
> Coffs Harbour NSW
>
>
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Pressure has started to drop in Melbourne - was 1024hPa this morning & is
now 1021hPa with a strengthening NE wind.....even the air feels different.

The sky also took on quite a vibrant blue colour today!! - much brighter &
more dense a blue than it has been for the past few months - maybe this is
the change to a 'spring sky' that I normally notice in August?

Jane
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Hi midlats.
At last things are looking better for Victoria and Tasmania over the next
few weeks with what seems to be a pending procession of fronts troughs and
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Michael,

Do you mean that there is no water in the lake at all???????  The last time
I remember that was during the early '90s when there wasn't any green grass
either - just a lot of flyblown sheep wandering amongst the
fenceposts.....and then by '96 (I think it was), it was back to lapping at
the road.

Talking of cold - the coldest place (as far as wind chill & 'dampness' go )
I have ever been was on a sleety winter day in St Marys in Sydney's western
suburbs in the early 90's...Canberra never seemed that cold even on nights
of -9C!!

Jane
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Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).

Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No visible
snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.

It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past few
years that have yielded snow at Robertson.

Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.

Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll publish
tonight or tomorrow.

Michael





> Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
1400),
> not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> been hovering around 2-4 all day.
>
> Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
>
> Blair
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Not any I could see, bone dry. I suppose by summer that the Lake will indeed
become a dustbowl.

Michael



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> Michael,
>
> Do you mean that there is no water in the lake at all???????  The last
time
> I remember that was during the early '90s when there wasn't any green
grass
> either - just a lot of flyblown sheep wandering amongst the
> fenceposts.....and then by '96 (I think it was), it was back to lapping at
> the road.
>
> Talking of cold - the coldest place (as far as wind chill & 'dampness'
go )
> I have ever been was on a sleety winter day in St Marys in Sydney's
western
> suburbs in the early 90's...Canberra never seemed that cold even on nights
> of -9C!!
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
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> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
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> http://www.stormchasers.au.com
>
> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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>
>
> Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
>
> Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No visible
> snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
>
> It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past few
> years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
>
> Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
>
> Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
publish
> tonight or tomorrow.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
> 1400),
> > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> >
> > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
> >
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:13:25 +1000
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Hi all.
I have heard some strange stories about Lake George in regards to something
shifty about people disappearing and the sudden appearance of water etc. not
a place to chase in a pending flash flood.Clyve H.
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> Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
>
> Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No visible
> snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
>
> It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past few
> years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
>
> Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
>
> Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
publish
> tonight or tomorrow.
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
> > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
> 1400),
> > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> >
> > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
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Subject: aus-wx: Odd baroclinic leaf SA.
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:20:16 +1000
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Hi cyclogenestiks.
A rather odd looking' half 'of a baroclinic leaf moving across the Eyre
Peninsular SA at the moment. A rather striking eastern edge to it . regards
Clyve H.

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This article appeared in the Sydney Morning Hearld - I think most of you
will recognise the heads (scroll down the bottom if you don't)<g>  It's
entitled "Why the weather always wins"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0108/03/national/national22.html

More of Nick Moir's photos can be seen at
http://www.oculi.com.au/stories/stories.asp?id=11

(Anthony Cornelius (Qld) on the left & Jimmy Deguara (NSW) on the
right.)


Thanks to Michael Bath for finding the article.

Jane

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ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, clyve herbert wrote:

> Hi cyclogenestiks.
> A rather odd looking' half 'of a baroclinic leaf moving across the Eyre
> Peninsular SA at the moment. A rather striking eastern edge to it . regards
> Clyve H.
> 

http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/14_33978ql.jpg

shows a little cyclonic vortex on the northern edge of it at 7:14pm EST.
An earlier picture:

http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/M16_4453ql.jpg

shows the nice situation from 4:12pm EST.

Vortex is also here:
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA24170.gif

I'm not quite sure how this cloud has developed.  I mean there doesn't
seem to be anything obvious in the charts at 500hPa, 250hPa.


Cheers

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The new graphics on the ABC are provided by The Weather Co.

Paul.

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I really like the new presentation. The ABC weather graphics are now
excellent, not before time too.

Michael




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> I was watching the ABC news the other day and noticed the new satellite
> animation and the synoptic animation. ITs still not as good as Channel 9's
> Today program of a morning but.
>
> I reckon they (abc) could include a time for each frame in both
animations.
>
> I actually rely on these presentations when i'm away from the net for a
few
> days.
>
> enough from me,
>
> David Sercombe
> Coffs Harbour NSW
>
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From: "Ben Quinn" <benquinn at optushome.com.au>
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Hi Clyve, Robert

You're not wrong about that leading edge Clyve - this 1km res sat pic (taken
around 3pm) shows it well

http://www.bsch.au.com/temp/baroclinic_leaf.jpg



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> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, clyve herbert wrote:
>
> > Hi cyclogenestiks.
> > A rather odd looking' half 'of a baroclinic leaf moving across the Eyre
> > Peninsular SA at the moment. A rather striking eastern edge to it .
regards
> > Clyve H.
> >
>
> http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/14_33978ql.jpg
>
> shows a little cyclonic vortex on the northern edge of it at 7:14pm EST.
> An earlier picture:
>
> http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/M16_4453ql.jpg
>
> shows the nice situation from 4:12pm EST.
>
> Vortex is also here:
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA24170.gif
>
> I'm not quite sure how this cloud has developed.  I mean there doesn't
> seem to be anything obvious in the charts at 500hPa, 250hPa.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
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> Monash University
> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
>
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Hi Paul,

I was discussing this with Geoff that it was the Weather Company. You beat 
me to it.

Jimmy Deguara

At 08:28 PM 3/08/01 +0930, you wrote:
>The new graphics on the ABC are provided by The Weather Co.
>
>Paul.
>
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>I really like the new presentation. The ABC weather graphics are now
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>
>Michael
>
>
>
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>
>
> > I was watching the ABC news the other day and noticed the new satellite
> > animation and the synoptic animation. ITs still not as good as Channel 9's
> > Today program of a morning but.
> >
> > I reckon they (abc) could include a time for each frame in both
>animations.
> >
> > I actually rely on these presentations when i'm away from the net for a
>few
> > days.
> >
> > enough from me,
> >
> > David Sercombe
> > Coffs Harbour NSW
> >
> >
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I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is refered
to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
Why the word "Leaf"
Does anyone know the origin of this

 

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I have noticed that Lake George has been dry even during wet periods. They
do say it is mystery lake in that no one knows for sure where the water
comes from and where it goes.
I drove past Lake George in early February and then again late February this
year. The first time I drove past it was bone dry, but the second time,
which was only a few weeks later, water could be seen in the far distance.

-Tim

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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:13 PM
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> Hi all.
> I have heard some strange stories about Lake George in regards to
something
> shifty about people disappearing and the sudden appearance of water etc.
not
> a place to chase in a pending flash flood.Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Thompson <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
>
>
> > Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
> >
> > Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No
visible
> > snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
> >
> > It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past
few
> > years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
> >
> > Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
> >
> > Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
> publish
> > tonight or tomorrow.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
> > 1400),
> > > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> > >
> > > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
> > >
> > > Blair
> > >
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I've put a high (1km) resolution false colour image of the main cloud area
at http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/200108030520_falsecolour.jpg
and a thermal image at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/200108030520_temperature.jpg.
They're about 450k each, and are at 15.32EST.

It has some intriguing leaf-like features and very sharp discontinuities
that are hard to explain, especially the "map of NSW" shaped feature over
the Nullarbor Plain and the long but very narrow clear slot to its south.

In the thermal image, red=~30 degrees, yellow=~20, green=~10, white=~0,
light blue=~-7, medium blue=~-14, dark blue=~-20 and purple=~-30.

Laurier


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>
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, clyve herbert wrote:
>
> > Hi cyclogenestiks.
> > A rather odd looking' half 'of a baroclinic leaf moving across the Eyre
> > Peninsular SA at the moment. A rather striking eastern edge to
> it . regards
> > Clyve H.
> >
>
> http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/14_33978ql.jpg
>
> shows a little cyclonic vortex on the northern edge of it at 7:14pm EST.
> An earlier picture:
>
> http://www.rss.dola.wa.gov.au/noaaql/2001/AUG/03/M16_4453ql.jpg
>
> shows the nice situation from 4:12pm EST.
>
> Vortex is also here:
> http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA24170.gif
>
> I'm not quite sure how this cloud has developed.  I mean there doesn't
> seem to be anything obvious in the charts at 500hPa, 250hPa.
>
>
> Cheers
>
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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Poss TS for SA
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 08:32:24 +1000
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AMEND AREA FORECAST 032040 TO 041100 AREA 50

Morning all,

From the SA Aviation forecast (valid between 0640CST to 2100CST) - an
interesting snippet for you below:-

ISOLATED SHOWERS INCREASING TO SCATTERED SOUTH OF PORT LINCOLN TO
BORDERTOWN BETWEEN 04Z AND 11Z.
ISOLATED HIGH BASED THUNDERSTORMS SOUTH OF PORT LINCOLN TO BORDERTOWN
FROM 04Z.
LOCAL DUST HAZE BELOW 2000 FT FROM 01Z TILL 08Z.

For the area SOUTH OF PORT LINCOLN TO BORDERTOWN. ISOL CB 7000/25000
FROM 04 (1400CST).

There is no mention of this in the public forecasts for SA.

Jane

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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Odd baroclinic leaf SA.
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I've collected all the satpics & analyses that I can find of this (18
images so far from 3pm yesterday till this morning) & made a thumbnail
summary page at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/03_08_01.htm

Thanks to Ben Quinn, Laurier Williams & Robert Goler who have provided
some of the images that are linked there.

Jane

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From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: SMS Contact list Update
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:45:15 +1000
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Hey People

I have update the SMS contact list to include a page where you can enter
your chase details., it is linked from the main SMS contact list page
http://home.iprimus.com.au/nicksykes/smscontactindex.htm  Just click on the
"Chase Details" image. You will be taken to a forum where you can post your
chase details. At the end of each day, about 10pm, an SMS will be sent to
all the people on the contact list informing them of your intentions to
chase. They will be then be able to go to the page and view your chase
details (ie where you are chasing, time, what info you want etc). If you are
doing a spare of the moment chase, just use your 1rstwap contact list to
send a mass SMS to all the contact group members telling them you are
chasing (you need the downloaded program to do this) or do it individualy
with the web based system, then go add your chase details to the forum if
you wish.

There are now 12 chasers signed up to the list :)  The more the better so if
you haven't signed up go for it.

To sign up to list goto
http://home.iprimus.com.au/nicksykes/smscontactindex.htm  or goto
www.vicstorms.com and click on the SMS button at the top of the page.

In the near future mobile coverage maps will be added.

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From: "Peter Matters" <pkmatters at bigpond.com.au>
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Nick,
     My phone doesnt support SMS:-(((
Cheers Peter

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Hey People

I have update the SMS contact list to include a page where you can enter
your chase details., it is linked from the main SMS contact list page
http://home.iprimus.com.au/nicksykes/smscontactindex.htm  Just click on the
"Chase Details" image. You will be taken to a forum where you can post your
chase details. At the end of each day, about 10pm, an SMS will be sent to
all the people on the contact list informing them of your intentions to
chase. They will be then be able to go to the page and view your chase
details (ie where you are chasing, time, what info you want etc). If you are
doing a spare of the moment chase, just use your 1rstwap contact list to
send a mass SMS to all the contact group members telling them you are
chasing (you need the downloaded program to do this) or do it individualy
with the web based system, then go add your chase details to the forum if
you wish.

There are now 12 chasers signed up to the list :)  The more the better so if
you haven't signed up go for it.

To sign up to list goto
http://home.iprimus.com.au/nicksykes/smscontactindex.htm  or goto
www.vicstorms.com and click on the SMS button at the top of the page.

In the near future mobile coverage maps will be added.

Any comments, suggestions welcome.

Nick Sykes



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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 10:58:52 +1000
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Hi John.
The word Baroclinic 'Leaf'' is a descriptive attempt at a visual sense of
observation (from sat pics), on some occasions looking not unlike a leaf on
the ground this type of  medium to large scale mainly mid and upper level
cloud is often associated with impending cyclogenisis (not necessary
nearby). A marked increase in the mid and upper flow is linked to a
strengthening of the jet stream,on occasions such cloud bands can extend for
thousands of kilometres and can produce widespread areas of rain.A good deal
of precipitation over the interior of Australia is associated with strong
baroclinic situations. You could write an encyclopaedia on this subject if
you were that way inclined, the development of a Baroclinic leaf cloud
(sometimes not looking like a leaf at all) is a good forecasting tool for
impending low pressure development....lots more! regards Clyve Herbert.
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> I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is refered
> to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
> Why the word "Leaf"
> Does anyone know the origin of this
>
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>
> JohnGaul
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Hi all,

Speaking of the coming spring, I spent this afternoon fishing up at Lake
Eildon (and for those fisho's out there is was dead quiet) and managed to
score an awesome suntan (despite the temperature not getting above 13C).
The sun is starting to get some proper warmth in it - it was glorious.

Regards,

Andrew McDonald

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> Pressure has started to drop in Melbourne - was 1024hPa this morning & is
> now 1021hPa with a strengthening NE wind.....even the air feels different.
>
> The sky also took on quite a vibrant blue colour today!! - much brighter &
> more dense a blue than it has been for the past few months - maybe this is
> the change to a 'spring sky' that I normally notice in August?
>
> Jane
> ---------------------------------------
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> ASWA - Victoria
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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>
>
> Hi midlats.
> At last things are looking better for Victoria and Tasmania over the next
> few weeks with what seems to be a pending procession of fronts troughs and
> cold air outbreaks!. An interesting and unusual prognostic chart from the
> Mel BOM showing a developing high over the southern Bight area with lows
> 'piggy backing' across the top, its about time best wishes Clyve Herbert.
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Hi all

I've made a few plots using AVN data at 600hPa showing the wind
field and absolute vorticity which shows the atmospheric structure
associated with the cloud:

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_03/today.html


Cheers

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<x-flowed>
Feels a lot like a spring day here in Adelaide with a sunny start and now 
some middle level cloud has developed.  Very thick in some areas with some 
rain visible off the coast, obviously very isolated though.  A bit windy too 
which is good for a change.  Interesting to note that BOM here has gone as 
far to lable the air just to the west as unstable which is good, they don't 
often metion unstable air masses in their notes especially note when they 
are from the north in WINTER!  Anyone know how unstable the air is?  Not 
heaps of moisture around so that is always a problem but it would be good if 
we could get at least one heavy shower, but more likely just a trace of 
rain.  Tmorrow looks ok with the second front in the morning, interesting to 
see if the showers hang around until the Showdown starts at fotty park.  I 
remember a few very wet showdowns a few years ago.  It's just started to 
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Pictures of Lake George - dry !!
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I have put up some digital pictures of Lake George, including a 180'
panorama at

http://ozthunder.com/temp/temp.htm

also some frost, and a sunset.

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Local radar for Adelaide looks nice with some pink splotches appearing. 
I'm wondering how much (if any) lightning is present?  The lightning
tracker from Weatherzone hasn't updated since 12:13am this morning. I'm
guessing the absence of emails from Adelaideians must mean they're out
checking out the action. Or judging by SG's last email, perhaps the emails
have been delayed somewhere in the system.


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A ridiculous tale I heard many years ago was that when Lake George emptied,
the crater lake at Mount Gambier filled, and vice versa.

Michael






> Hi all.
> I have heard some strange stories about Lake George in regards to
something
> shifty about people disappearing and the sudden appearance of water etc.
not
> a place to chase in a pending flash flood.Clyve H.
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> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:54 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
>
>
> > Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
> >
> > Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No
visible
> > snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
> >
> > It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past
few
> > years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
> >
> > Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
> >
> > Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
> publish
> > tonight or tomorrow.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour (to
> > 1400),
> > > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> > >
> > > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
> > >
> > > Blair
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Excellent panoramic MT. Fab!

:)

Paul.

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I have put up some digital pictures of Lake George, including a 180'
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http://ozthunder.com/temp/temp.htm

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Great work Robert - great educational tool for those who would like to delve
into Baroclinic leaf formation and analysis.

Paul.

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Hi all

I've made a few plots using AVN data at 600hPa showing the wind
field and absolute vorticity which shows the atmospheric structure
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http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_03/today.html


Cheers

--

Robert A. Goler

Department of Mathematics and Statistics
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Robert & all,

this image is updating regularly...
http://www.theweather.com.au/twc-latest/aus_lightning.jpg

Jane
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> Local radar for Adelaide looks nice with some pink splotches
appearing.
> I'm wondering how much (if any) lightning is present?  The lightning
> tracker from Weatherzone hasn't updated since 12:13am this morning.
I'm
> guessing the absence of emails from Adelaideians must mean they're out
> checking out the action. Or judging by SG's last email, perhaps the
emails
> have been delayed somewhere in the system.
>
>
> Cheers
>
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No lightning evident in Adelaide city with the front, however a small
and short lasting storm was observed in northeastern suburbs with
several CC's and CG's at about 5:30pm. The BOM did update adelaide's
evening forecast for possible thunderstorms but it looks like most
action went through the southern coasts/fleurieu peninsula.

Tim.



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>
>Robert & all,
>
>this image is updating regularly...
>http://www.theweather.com.au/twc-latest/aus_lightning.jpg
>
>Jane
>--------------------------------
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>
>
>> Local radar for Adelaide looks nice with some pink splotches
>appearing.
>> I'm wondering how much (if any) lightning is present?  The
lightning
>> tracker from Weatherzone hasn't updated since 12:13am this morning.
>I'm
>> guessing the absence of emails from Adelaideians must mean they're
out
>> checking out the action. Or judging by SG's last email, perhaps the
>emails
>> have been delayed somewhere in the system.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> --
>>
>> Robert A. Goler
>>
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> Monash University
>> Clayton, Vic 3800
>> Australia
>>
>> ph. +61 3 9905 4424
>> email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
>> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>>
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I gather there will be a few chasers out on the road in Vic Today.
I will run a page for most of the day with what I can find out /comes
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Hi all,

Interesting to see some showers developing in NE NSW - more so on the
Tablelands.  Encouraging to see some "stuff" (very technical term for
some cloud on the sat pics that looks somewhat unstable).  BoM have gone
for fine throughout in SE QLD...would be wondering if they should have
included showers in the SE QLD forecast for the border ranges. 
Thunderies might be a little difficult to achieve with a warm layer at
500mb (-8C  at  500mb!!!  Already summer...)  But there is enough
instability in the lower levels for some showers about.

Sometimes it can be difficult in these situations, because in late
winter/early spring, NW'lies tend to try things out very quickly, and
there are NE to NW'lies here.  Currently 21/11 here as of 11am.
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I've just got back from a flying visit to Cooma (6 hr drive with 3 kids!!!)
and on Friday and again today Lake George was dry.  However, there was rain
from Michalego until  the other side of Canberra.

In Cooma on Saturday there was a very heavy frost, and the start of the day
was wonderful, but within the hour I was in a funeral the weather had turned
very nasty and bleak.  You could say that it was typical of the weather down
there, very changeable.

However, very nice at home in Cessnock.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:28 PM
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> I have noticed that Lake George has been dry even during wet periods. They
> do say it is mystery lake in that no one knows for sure where the water
> comes from and where it goes.
> I drove past Lake George in early February and then again late February
this
> year. The first time I drove past it was bone dry, but the second time,
> which was only a few weeks later, water could be seen in the far distance.
>
> -Tim
>
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Tim Grugeon
> Maitland, NSW
> http://hunterweather.port5.com
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
>
>
> > Hi all.
> > I have heard some strange stories about Lake George in regards to
> something
> > shifty about people disappearing and the sudden appearance of water etc.
> not
> > a place to chase in a pending flash flood.Clyve H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Thompson <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
> >
> >
> > > Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
> > >
> > > Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No
> visible
> > > snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
> > >
> > > It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past
> few
> > > years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
> > >
> > > Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
> > >
> > > Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
> > publish
> > > tonight or tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour
(to
> > > 1400),
> > > > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > > > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> > > >
> > > > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
> > > >
> > > > Blair
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Hi Carolyn

Yeah one of the warmer days today for some months, 23C in Newcastle with the
NW'ly throughout all day,
as to be expected ahead of the SW change, and i think it got to 25 at Penrith
today also.
Good to see a few people on the list from around the Hunter.
BoM are going for chance of a shower tonight, but i cant see it happening, too
dry.
Matt Smith

Carolyn wrote:

> I've just got back from a flying visit to Cooma (6 hr drive with 3 kids!!!)
> and on Friday and again today Lake George was dry.  However, there was rain
> from Michalego until  the other side of Canberra.
>
> In Cooma on Saturday there was a very heavy frost, and the start of the day
> was wonderful, but within the hour I was in a funeral the weather had turned
> very nasty and bleak.  You could say that it was typical of the weather down
> there, very changeable.
>
> However, very nice at home in Cessnock.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:28 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
>
> > I have noticed that Lake George has been dry even during wet periods. They
> > do say it is mystery lake in that no one knows for sure where the water
> > comes from and where it goes.
> > I drove past Lake George in early February and then again late February
> this
> > year. The first time I drove past it was bone dry, but the second time,
> > which was only a few weeks later, water could be seen in the far distance.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Tim Grugeon
> > Maitland, NSW
> > http://hunterweather.port5.com
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 6:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
> >
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > > I have heard some strange stories about Lake George in regards to
> > something
> > > shifty about people disappearing and the sudden appearance of water etc.
> > not
> > > a place to chase in a pending flash flood.Clyve H.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Michael Thompson <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 4:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cold in the Southern Tablelands
> > >
> > >
> > > > Was in Canberra from Tuesday night until today ( Friday ).
> > > >
> > > > Some light rain on Wednesday but nothing to get excited about. No
> > visible
> > > > snow on ranges west of Canberra, which surprised me.
> > > >
> > > > It seemed no colder than some rain events in Wollongong over the past
> > few
> > > > years that have yielded snow at Robertson.
> > > >
> > > > Very heavy frosts Thursday and this morning, frost on roofs , etc.
> > > >
> > > > Took some photos of that green paddock called Lake George that I'll
> > > publish
> > > > tonight or tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Canberra's also dropped from 10.something to 4.6 in the last hour
> (to
> > > > 1400),
> > > > > not enough for snow but certainly pretty chilly, whilst Bombala's
> > > > > been hovering around 2-4 all day.
> > > > >
> > > > > Certainly a nice change from recent weeks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Blair
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HI Clyve,
Thanks for your comments. Baroclinicity usually leads to good rains over
the Tasman and onto NZ from the west. Augie Auer, the meteorolgist who
presents the weather on TV3 news during the week here in NZ refers the
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Hi all,

Some new photos up at my galleries...thanks to those who offered photos in
recent times. I have some samples on the web now at the relevant
photogalleries - thanks for your support! 

The most recent photos of my own:

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery9.htm

Some 'above the clouds' pics over NSW during July (bottom of page) - one
looks like the surface of Antarctica...a nice look down on a lowering too.

Also:

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery4.htm 

A contrail in the making looks like a walking stick in the setting sun....

(near top of page)

Note all pics are reduced to 400 pxls for quick downloads in schools.
Anyone like a photo larger, just flick an email to me...

Regards all,

Sel Kerans


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Hi all,

Some assorted new sunset photos from this winter...

http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/NewPhotos/Sunset3.jpg
http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/NewPhotos/Sunset4.jpg
http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/NewPhotos/Sunset5.jpg
http://www.bsch.au.com/anthony/NewPhotos/Sunset1.jpg
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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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Great 180' panorama there micheal.
It comes as no surprise that Lake george is empty the last time i went by it
we could see a small pool toward the NE and that was back in March 2000. the
fact is that most Monaro distric is drought stricken and had been that way
for 3-4 years although there has been periods of rain to ease the serverity
of it, It never recovers fully and then we get a month like June where there
was absolutley no signifigant rain. The last time i saw lake george lapping
the highway was summer (dec) 94 and the on my return in jan 95 from my
holiday (3 weeks over christmas and new-years) it had now receeded to about
50m from the highway at its closes point and thats in only 3 weeks!!!!! for
it to recover we need steady raing over the period of 12 to 18 months with
out to many interuptions. (it doesent have to rain every day once its starts
filling but for it to start filling it would need to rain constantly just to
soak the ground).

And for a riduclous tale that ive heard and still tell people is "that when
it empties, Lock Ness in scotand fills and vise versa this is by the fact
that we used to be very volcanic and lava tubes connet AUS with Eroupe" How
bad is that one......

Simon Angell
Canberra ACT


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> I have put up some digital pictures of Lake George, including a 180'
> panorama at
>
> http://ozthunder.com/temp/temp.htm
>
> also some frost, and a sunset.
>
> Michael Thompson
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And also what is the difference between Baroclinic and Barotropic?
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> I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is refered
> to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
> Why the word "Leaf"
> Does anyone know the origin of this
>
>
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> JohnGaul
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BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY 
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE
Issued at 7:15 am WST on Monday, 6 August 2001

People in the Southwest District and western parts of the Southern Coastal
District including Busselton, Augusta and Albany, are advised that there is a
risk of severe thunderstorms this morning as a strong cold front moves across
the region. 

Storms may be accompanied by hail and strong winds that could result in damage
to property.

Gales with gusts to 98 kilometres per hour have been reported in the Cape
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The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for
thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under
cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions
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From: "Nathan Thompson" <pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: A weak t'storm near sunset (NE of Adelaide).
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On Saturday, 4th of August 2001</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A weak thunderstorm was being observed near our 
place in Golden Grove, saw few lightning and heard thunder rumbling. Only a 
little to light rain. Got 0.8mm out of it. Nothing much though. It was only a 
very short live. Ah well better luck next time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Saturday night, my davis weather station recorded 
29 knots, it was strong wind only last for a bit of while. Been up to 20 knots 
all day on Saturday include Saturday night. Then on Sunday, it has been bit 
windy once again, been up to 20 knots increased to 24 knots during the afternoon 
but died down again during the evening. These anemometer has been measuring on 
10m pole.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We had bit of good rainfall during the weekend 
which I am happy about it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We might see a narrow band of rain with a change 
and then few showers to follow. It gonna be bit windy again on 
Tuesday.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From Nathan.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Hey people

This is for people on the SMS contact list that use the 1rstWAP service

You can now send e-mails from your mobile by using sms (may not work with
optus, works with telstra).

To send an e-mail on your mobile do the following

write a standard sms message, but place the e-mail address of the person you
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the body of your e-mail. The message should look something like this....

njsykes at yahoo.com currently in Ballarat, whats on radar?

You will then send the message to this phone number +62811987800

This will cost the standard SMS charge (ie 20cents for Telstra)

You can send the e-mail to anyone, they dont have to be using the 1rstWAP
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From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
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Nice front in the bight atm. Looks like SA and Vic could be quite
interesting the next couple of days. GASP has thickneeses down to 533 over
Vic on Weds. Tracker is currently showing lighting in the bight. Some nice
gusts up to 100km have been recorded with this fronts passage so far.
Fingers crossed.

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Amazing, received at 9:36.  Only 18 minutes.
PC

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi Nick.
There was an interesting but small cold pool just west of the front near
Esperance this afternoon, there is a marked thermal contrast across the
front which seems to be holding, with some warm advection at 850 to 700hpa
tomorrow and a little cold advection between 500hpa and 300hpa this front
has similarities to active frontal bands that produced isolated cold season
tornadoes last year. best regards Clyve Herbert.
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> Nice front in the bight atm. Looks like SA and Vic could be quite
> interesting the next couple of days. GASP has thickneeses down to 533 over
> Vic on Weds. Tracker is currently showing lighting in the bight. Some nice
> gusts up to 100km have been recorded with this fronts passage so far.
> Fingers crossed.
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> Nick Sykes
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: New Zealand  potential.
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Hi all.
The west coast of New Zealand looks primed for heavy rain over the next 12
hours or so,  especially from Greymouth and to the south along the west
coast and  mountains,this is the same low that skimmed the Victorian coast
on Sunday with rather nice structure just south of Cape Otway. regards Clyve
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Hello all,

Just up tonight on the PAA Online site - historic pics of 1983 dust storm
over Melbourne.

In Photogallery 6 at top of page...

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery6.htm

Thanks to Sarah Phillips at the Bureau of Meteorology for these great photos.

Quite frightening and a real health hazard - not to be caught out in...

Can anyone report from experience on what it was like for people?

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Hi All.

Letting you all know that my email address and website URL's have changed:

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Please update your address books, bookmarks, and links in your web pages.

All the individual page names remain the same, just replace the 'ace-' part
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This change became necessary as during the recent Pacific cyclone outbreak
my ISP noticed that my website had grown to 13MB when I am only 'allowed'
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The old website pages simply have links to the same new pages for now, and
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Sorry about any inconvenience.

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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf 
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Hi Keith,

Barotropic means that the density only depends on pressure. Baroclinic means
it depends on pressure and tempreture. This jargon basically says that
baroptopic atmospheres are one in which there are no thermal gradients on a
pressure surface. Baroclinic atmospheres have thermal gradients on pressure
surfaces. Its a concept that seems a little strange but as you see more and
more problems it becomes much easier to identify a barotropic situation from
a baroclinic.

Another way of looking at it is how energy is converted. In a barotropic
situation, energy is converted from some form of kintetic to another - eg
mean flow into vorticies. In a baroclinic siutation, energy can go from one
form of kinetic to another but also from potential to kinetic.

*Barotropic example
Water in a river flowing around a rock will cause an eddy - the rotational
energy is extracted from the mean flow.

*Baroclinic Example
Cold air on top of warm air will cause convection, resulting in the colder
air being below the warmer air. As colder air is denser, the total center of
mass of the system is lowered by this rearrangment. Hence, gravitational
potential energy is converted into kinetic in the form of a wind in the
system.

Cheers, Lyle

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> And also what is the difference between Baroclinic and Barotropic?
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>
>
> > I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is
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> > to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
> > Why the word "Leaf"
> > Does anyone know the origin of this
> >
> >
> >
> > JohnGaul
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From: "Bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Just a query here. Everyone knows about thunderstorms and not using the
phone during one :-)
Does this apply with a mobile and how dangerous are/can they be in a storm?
Do they have a radio wave or a microwave signal and is it "attractive" to a
lightning bolt?
Outa here......
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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That is a good question which I had never thought of...
I have been happily using my mobile when Flangs have been going off all 
around, but not thought for a moment about that possibility.  
I have always imagined that it was the attachment to wires that caused 
the danger with regular phones, but if your mobile goes off anywhere near 
your computer just watch what it does to the screen!  There is certainly 
a lot of powerful radiation of some sort going on, which is why you must 
turn off before driving into petrol stations.
There is no noticeable interference to the phone signal even when 
lightning strikes the building you are in and blacks out the electricity, 
but I just don't know if it is dangerous or not.
I look forward with great interest to others thoughts on this topic.

Phil
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Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:02:37 +1000
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> Just a query here. Everyone knows about thunderstorms and not using the
> phone during one :-)
> Does this apply with a mobile and how dangerous are/can they be in a
> storm?
> Do they have a radio wave or a microwave signal and is it "attractive"
> to a
> lightning bolt?
> Outa here......
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Hi all,

The BoM hasn't made anything at all of it yet but I do expect that there
will be some snowfalls around the Southern and Central Tablelands
tomorrow as a cold pool (sub 535 thk) passes behind the front. I am
almost certain that there will be falls around Oberon as you don't even
need any widespread moisture for that to happen (orographic moisture
will do).

We'll see.

Andrew.
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<P>Hey everyone,</P>
<P>I found a couple of things online about this and it seems overall, that risks are extremely low. There didn't seem to be too much available online about it, so the old saying "no news is good news" could be right.</P>
<P>Telstra is quoted as saying on one of their websites: "Finally, if the customer needs to make a call during a lightning storm the risk of personal injury may be reduced by using a hands free phone, a cordless phone or a mobile phone." at <A href="http://www.farmwide.com.au/community/support/lightning.asp">http://www.farmwide.com.au/community/support/lightning.asp</A></P>
<P>I found&nbsp;this one in a forum, and according to it, this was only the 2nd case ever in the world of it occuring.<BR>~~~~~~~~~~</P>
<P>Saudi Gazette Daily News Paper Riyadh,<BR>Saudi Arabia - 22nd May, 2001</P>
<P>LIGHTNING BOLT KILLS MOBILE PHONE USER<BR><BR><BR>Riyad (OKAZ)<BR><BR>Abdullah Bin Muhammad Bin Abdulla Al-A’deib, 36, died recently in the most<BR>unlikely manner.&nbsp; He was struck by lightning while using mobile phone,&nbsp; He<BR>struggled for life for 15 days after the hit, in the Intensive Unit of King<BR>Fahad National Guard Hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.&nbsp; He left<BR>behind six sons and two daughters.<BR><BR>The incident took place after Maghreb (6.30 PM) when Al-A’deib was walking<BR>to his Al-Manar Home.&nbsp; The lightning bolt struck the mobile, traveled<BR>through his right ear and body, and exited through his right foot, according<BR>to a report in Okaz Arabic Daily.<BR><BR>The paper said that it was only the second time ever in the world that such<BR>a cause of death, involving a mobile phone, has occurred.<BR>~~~~~~~~</P>
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow possibility.. - Oberon
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Hi all..

If anyone requires updates re possible snow in Oberon tomorrow.. I can be
reached on mobile no
040 8863956...  Im lucky finally to have RDO from work tomorrow..

Dave
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Hi all,

For some bizzare reason I happened to look at the MSN site today and came
across a rather good article. Very US based but some good tips for those who
haven't done much chasing and want to get into it. Some good photography
tips as well.
http://pictureit.msn.com/content/ChasingThePerfectStorm.asp

On another note, I'll be moving down to Sydney in 2 weeks for a new job that
should give me some more time to stay in touch with whats going on and
hopefully get to ASWA meetings on a more regular basis (ie. at least
occasionally rather than never as has been the case the last 12 - 18
months).

Cheers all,
Rosco.

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Thanks for that reference Simon.  Seems like Telstra is doing a lot more 
for country telephone users to protect them from lightning than the PMG 
ever used to do when it ran every phone in Oz.

I think it stands to reason that if you are inside your house or inside 
your car while using the mobile phone then these very structures around 
you would protect you.

In the case of Al-A&#8217;deib referred to below, he was outdoors walking in 
the storm.  We may never know whether he may have been struck anyway, 
whether he was on his phone or not.

Phil
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> <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>
> <P>Hey everyone,</P>
> <P>I found a couple of things online about this and it seems overall,
> that risks are extremely low. There didn't seem to be too much
> available online about it, so the old saying "no news is good news"
> could be right.</P>
> <P>Telstra is quoted as saying on one of their websites: "Finally, if
> the customer needs to make a call during a lightning storm the risk of
> personal injury may be reduced by using a hands free phone, a cordless
> phone or a mobile phone." at <A
> href="http://www.farmwide.com.au/community/support/lightning.asp">http:
> //www.farmwide.com.au/community/support/lightning.asp</A></P>
> <P>I found this one in a forum, and according to it, this was only
> the 2nd case ever in the world of it occuring.<BR>~~~~~~~~~~</P>
> <P>Saudi Gazette Daily News Paper Riyadh,<BR>Saudi Arabia - 22nd May,
> 2001</P>
> <P>LIGHTNING BOLT KILLS MOBILE PHONE USER<BR><BR><BR>Riyad
> (OKAZ)<BR><BR>Abdullah Bin Muhammad Bin Abdulla Al-A’deib, 36, died
> recently in the most<BR>unlikely manner.  He was struck by
> lightning while using mobile phone,  He<BR>struggled for life for
> 15 days after the hit, in the Intensive Unit of King<BR>Fahad National
> Guard Hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.  He
> left<BR>behind six sons and two daughters.<BR><BR>The incident took
> place after Maghreb (6.30 PM) when Al-A’deib was walking<BR>to his
> Al-Manar Home.  The lightning bolt struck the mobile,
> traveled<BR>through his right ear and body, and exited through his
> right foot, according<BR>to a report in Okaz Arabic Daily.<BR><BR>The
> paper said that it was only the second time ever in the world that
> such<BR>a cause of death, involving a mobile phone, has
> occurred.<BR>~~~~~~~~</P>
> <P>- Simon</P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of
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At 22:13 6/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>The west coast of New Zealand looks primed for heavy rain over the next 12
>hours or so,  especially from Greymouth and to the south along the west
>coast and  mountains,this is the same low that skimmed the Victorian coast
>on Sunday with rather nice structure just south of Cape Otway. regards Clyve
>H.

Hi Clyve

I doubt it. 
Because of global warming, the system is weakoning. 
There were reports of flooding in Nelson - rainfall figures I'm not sure of
 - as rain did fall in isioaled areas as what was warned by MetService's
SWB printed below.

{SWB Event 2001/27.2}
URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST IN:
MARLBOROUGH NELSON
 
NOT TO BE BROADCAST AFTER 9:00pm Tuesday 07-Aug-2001
 
 
 
 
 
                      SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN 
             ISSUED BY MetService AT 9:06 am 07-Aug-2001
 
SITUATION AT 8 am
 
A low over the central Tasman is expected to drift southeast. Its 
associated frontal rain band is likely to make slow progress across
the north of the South Island today preceded by a strong northerly
flow. Steady rain should continue in the ranges for much of today
with heavy falls until late evening when the front should start to
withdraw from the area and weaken.
   
 
 
                             ====================
                              HEAVY RAIN WARNING
                             ====================
 
AREA/S AFFECTED: THE NORTHWEST NELSON RANGES, ALSO THE BRYANT AND
RICHMOND RANGES
FORECAST:
 
In the 12 to 15 hours from about 9am Tuesday, expect another 100 to
130mm of rain in the upper river catchments of the Northwest Nelson
ranges and 70 to 100mm in the Bryant Ranges and the northern slopes
of the Richmond ranges.Intensities should be mostly in the range 7 to
10mm per hour but may occasionally peak at 15 to 25mm per hour,
especially late afternoon or evening.
 
FREEZING LEVEL: Rising to 2000 metres. 
 
 
 
 
   NEXT SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN WILL BE ISSUED AT OR BEFORE
   9:00pm Tuesday 07-Aug-2001
 
Forecast prepared by: Steve Ready
 
A service provided through a contract with the Crown
(C) Copyright Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd 2001

           

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At 22:13 6/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>The west coast of New Zealand looks primed for heavy rain over the next 12
>hours or so,  especially from Greymouth and to the south along the west
>coast and  mountains,this is the same low that skimmed the Victorian coast
>on Sunday with rather nice structure just south of Cape Otway. regards Clyve
>H.

isioaled, I mean isolated.
As I said, the most of the rain fell around the NW of the South Island and
any interesting weather is now dimishining.
There are some nice CB's off the Fiordland coast but unfortunately, they
should weaken.
A nice fine day should follow in most districts. A bit warmer too!

Here's the latest update from NZMetService

{SWB Event 2001/27.3}
URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST IN:
NELSON MARLBOROUGH
 
NOT TO BE BROADCAST AFTER 7:00am Wednesday 08-Aug-2001
 
 
 
 
 
                      SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN 
             ISSUED BY MetService AT 7:35 pm 07-Aug-2001
 
SITUATION AT 7 pm
 
A front is moving across the Nelson and Marlborough area this evening,
preceded by a strong northerly flow and a band of rain. The front is
weakening now,though a few heavy falls are likely until just before
midnight in the ranges of northwest Nelson and northern Marlborough,
then easing quickly to just a few showers.
   
 
 
                             ====================
                              HEAVY RAIN WARNING
                             ====================
 
AREA AFFECTED: NORTHWEST NELSON RANGES, THE BRYANT RANGES AND THE
NORTHERN SLOPES OF THE RICHMOND RANGES
 
FORECAST:
 
In the 3 to 4 hours from 7pm today another 20 to 30mm possible, then
easing.
 
 
   NEXT SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN WILL BE ISSUED AT OR BEFORE
   7:00am Wednesday 08-Aug-2001
 
Forecast prepared by: Bob lake
 
 For further information after 9pm contact Duty Forecaster Paul
Bruce
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Thanks Lyle..I take it that, in synoptic meteorology,barotropic zones would
occur within single air masses (such as tropical cyclones, easterly waves
etc), whereas baroclinic zones relate more to frontal boundaries?
(Excuse my ignorance!)
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> Hi Keith,
>
> Barotropic means that the density only depends on pressure. Baroclinic
means
> it depends on pressure and tempreture. This jargon basically says that
> baroptopic atmospheres are one in which there are no thermal gradients on
a
> pressure surface. Baroclinic atmospheres have thermal gradients on
pressure
> surfaces. Its a concept that seems a little strange but as you see more
and
> more problems it becomes much easier to identify a barotropic situation
from
> a baroclinic.
>
> Another way of looking at it is how energy is converted. In a barotropic
> situation, energy is converted from some form of kintetic to another - eg
> mean flow into vorticies. In a baroclinic siutation, energy can go from
one
> form of kinetic to another but also from potential to kinetic.
>
> *Barotropic example
> Water in a river flowing around a rock will cause an eddy - the rotational
> energy is extracted from the mean flow.
>
> *Baroclinic Example
> Cold air on top of warm air will cause convection, resulting in the colder
> air being below the warmer air. As colder air is denser, the total center
of
> mass of the system is lowered by this rearrangment. Hence, gravitational
> potential energy is converted into kinetic in the form of a wind in the
> system.
>
> Cheers, Lyle
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:24 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf
>
>
> > And also what is the difference between Baroclinic and Barotropic?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:52 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf
> >
> >
> > > I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is
> refered
> > > to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
> > > Why the word "Leaf"
> > > Does anyone know the origin of this
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JohnGaul
> > > NZ Thunderstorm Society
> > >
> > >
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hi,

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> I doubt it. 
> Because of global warming, the system is weakoning. 
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

i'm sory but this made me laugh, don't mean to be rude...

cheers, lyle


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Hi,

you could say that such a zone exists but only as an aproximation. Our
atmpshere is barolclinic, by definition. *BUT* you cand efinatly identify
zones that are baroptropic and, hence, barotropic pertubations may only be
permitted, so to speak. Also important is that barotropic instabilities
(etc) can occurr in a very baroclinic zone. Infact, alot of stabilities are
mixed barotropic/baroclinic. I should take special care to mention that
these terms only deifine the fluids charactersitics but, according to this,
the fluids behave differently. Hence, i talk about baroclninc and/or
barotropic pertubations.

The way i look at it, which may be different to others, is how the energy is
redistributed to determine the type of pertubation. As a scientist, the
theory is important to me and identifying what's going on, so we try
classify it and study it on simpler grounds rather than look at the whole
picture. Divide and conquer.

I think Robert Goler showed a barotropic instability in the water vapor
image some time ago, which was kicked by a frontal zone (i think??).

Hope this wasn't all ramble :)

Cheers, Lyle


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> Thanks Lyle..I take it that, in synoptic meteorology,barotropic zones
would
> occur within single air masses (such as tropical cyclones, easterly waves
> etc), whereas baroclinic zones relate more to frontal boundaries?
> (Excuse my ignorance!)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lyle Pakula <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf
>
>
> > Hi Keith,
> >
> > Barotropic means that the density only depends on pressure. Baroclinic
> means
> > it depends on pressure and tempreture. This jargon basically says that
> > baroptopic atmospheres are one in which there are no thermal gradients
on
> a
> > pressure surface. Baroclinic atmospheres have thermal gradients on
> pressure
> > surfaces. Its a concept that seems a little strange but as you see more
> and
> > more problems it becomes much easier to identify a barotropic situation
> from
> > a baroclinic.
> >
> > Another way of looking at it is how energy is converted. In a barotropic
> > situation, energy is converted from some form of kintetic to another -
eg
> > mean flow into vorticies. In a baroclinic siutation, energy can go from
> one
> > form of kinetic to another but also from potential to kinetic.
> >
> > *Barotropic example
> > Water in a river flowing around a rock will cause an eddy - the
rotational
> > energy is extracted from the mean flow.
> >
> > *Baroclinic Example
> > Cold air on top of warm air will cause convection, resulting in the
colder
> > air being below the warmer air. As colder air is denser, the total
center
> of
> > mass of the system is lowered by this rearrangment. Hence, gravitational
> > potential energy is converted into kinetic in the form of a wind in the
> > system.
> >
> > Cheers, Lyle
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 5:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf
> >
> >
> > > And also what is the difference between Baroclinic and Barotropic?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:52 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: baroclinic leaf
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have always wondered why a developing baroclonical situation is
> > refered
> > > > to as a "Baroclonic Leaf" ?
> > > > Why the word "Leaf"
> > > > Does anyone know the origin of this
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > JohnGaul
> > > > NZ Thunderstorm Society
> > > >
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I may chase around the eastern suburbs of Melbourne today. Will have the
camera  at  work and if anything good develops will try and get some shots.
Please send SMS's (no phone calls as I may be in work), to 0419 113 812. It
looks like a low is forming along the front and this will hopefully help to
drag the cold air up through Melbourne this morning. Good chance of some
hail.

Nick Sykes

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Hi all,

It is fully restored now. The reason for the outage was the Code Red virus 
hitting the hosting company.

cheers, Michael


At 08:24 AM 7/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>The ASWA website have become unavailable overnight - I am investigating. 
>Please direct any inquiries to me at the email address below
>
>
>regards



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Apologies for that. 
Please disregard the previous email.
That email screw-up was proudly brought to you by outlook express.

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi all Kite flyers.
A very decent pressure gradient over Victoria this morning, with Wangaratta
reporting 1013hpa and almost due south Wilson Prom displaying 998hpa and
55knott winds . With yet another small tight little low unsettling the dust
over northern Tasmania, also rather cold at 500hpa close to -27c, and it
looks as though the sequence of events is not over with yet another cold
front due later Thursday. For the snow lovers this is great stuff orographic
loading over the North-eastern high country and the Snowies should see
plenty of depth accumulation today and later Thursday, keep it coming
regards Clyve Herbert.

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HI all.. 

Snowing in Oberon at this time, still yet to settle on ground. Have
friend in Oberon keeping me updated. Any more info  I obtain will 
advise here. 

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HI.. 

Wind has picked up here, upto 35km/h.. Also raining.. Freezing cold
outside , only 7 deg. and falling.  Humidity currently 71 %. 


Dave 

Bathurst .
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Hi all

I was just sent this request (see below) for lightning footage to be shown
in the Centre at Federation Square when it opens in Melbourne later this
year. 

If you have anything to offer, contact Lisa Daniel at
ldaniel at cinemedia.net


Cheers

--

Robert A. Goler        

Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Monash University
Clayton, Vic 3800
Australia

ph. +61 3 9905 4424
email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/

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Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:06:57 +1000
From: Lisa Daniel <ldaniel at cinemedia.net>
To: 'Robert Goler' <Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au>
Subject: RE: [Fwd: Lightning video]

Hi Robert,
Thank you so much for your prompt response. I am currently working as a
researcher at Cinemedia in the Australian Centre for the Moving Image in
Melbourne. We are looking for video based observational records of lightning
patterns. These videos would be screened in the Centre at Federation Square
in Melbourne once it opens later this year. My job is to track these sorts
of visual materials down and then negotiate perpetual non-exclusive rights
to screen the work in the Screen Galleries. If you have something that might
fit that bill, or know someone who does, I'd love to hear from you.

Best wishes,

Lisa Daniel

> 
> Hi Lisa
> 
> Your request was forwarded onto me.  
> 
> > We are looking for video based observational records of lightning
> > patterns. Do have an idea of where something like that could be located?
> 
> By "records of lightning patterns", do you mean you want a map which shows
> where lightning strikes occur, ie a lightning distribution pattern to pick
> out the most frequently hit spots.  
> 
> Or do you mean the patterns that are traced out by individual lightning
> strokes in the air as shown by actual live footage of lightning taken by
> observers.
> 
> I can help you out with the latter option as I am a storm chaser myself,
> and have friends who are storm chasers who have footage of lightning.
> However, for the former option of lightning maps, I suggest you contact
> the Bureau of Meteorology's climate centre at webclim at bom.gov.au
> 


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<x-flowed>

Hi people

Well overnight we had 9.5mm of rain, and it was also very wild and cold.
This morning another 0.5mm and perhaps some more to come this avo.

Well people it's the 1 year aniversary of the the Sunbury Tornado (How do I 
know cause its my birthday!) Has anyone got any info of that storm, and did 
ASWA get a hold of that ameture vid of it that was shown on tthe news last 
year, and if so could it be possible to make it into an MPEG (Robert?)

Cheers

Les
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While you lot in Oz (at least those in the SE) are shivering through the 
first real winter blast at the moment, here in the USA midwest we are in 
the midst of hot and humid conditions. Currently here in Madison it's about 
34C with a dew point of 26C. When you go outside you feel as if you're in a 
bath (it actually feels stickier than when I was in the Guatemala jungle 
last wet season, or as Blackadder said, "stickier than when Sticky the 
stick insect got stuck to a sticky bun").

Just for comparison, I was wondering how such heat and humidity compares 
with what capital cities in Australia experience. I come from Perth, where 
it's rarely very humid - but how hot and humid has it been in Perth in the 
past? And how about other cities? Does anyone have access to that sort of 
information?

Cheers,
Tom
Madison, WI, USA

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Well happy birthday. Because there is more candles on the cake is no reason
to pout. Just be thankful that you have enough wind to blow the damn things
out :-))
Back to the weather......
Barometer was 1007 at midnight and has gone up to 1014.1 now with a 43kmh
gust at about 12.30pm. Currently on 11C with a big dump of 3.2mm overnight.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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>
> Hi people
>
> Well overnight we had 9.5mm of rain, and it was also very wild and cold.
> This morning another 0.5mm and perhaps some more to come this avo.
>
> Well people it's the 1 year aniversary of the the Sunbury Tornado (How do
I
> know cause its my birthday!) Has anyone got any info of that storm, and
did
> ASWA get a hold of that ameture vid of it that was shown on tthe news last
> year, and if so could it be possible to make it into an MPEG (Robert?)
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
> Ballarat Weather
>
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HI all.. 

Currently Bathurst getting gusts of winds around the 40km/h mark. 
Mostly winds have been around 30/35km/h. Sun is out but temp is 8.1
deg. Humidity has dropped down to 53%. Dew point is -0.7. 

I really cant see snow happening here..  

Dave 
Bathurst
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Here at Terrey Hills 15:30

19 - 50 km/h from the West

The guys that were at the 40m mark on our new tower last week are now at the 52m mark. I  think that they will be coming down VERY shortly !!

Craig

ps Anybody have much experience with web cams ?



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Hi Tom,

Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of Perth
normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).

John.
>snip

Subject: aus-wx: heat and humidity

While you lot in Oz (at least those in the SE) are shivering through the
first real winter blast at the moment, here in the USA midwest we are in
the midst of hot and humid conditions. Currently here in Madison it's about
34C with a dew point of 26C. When you go outside you feel as if you're in a
bath (it actually feels stickier than when I was in the Guatemala jungle
last wet season, or as Blackadder said, "stickier than when Sticky the
stick insect got stuck to a sticky bun").

Just for comparison, I was wondering how such heat and humidity compares
with what capital cities in Australia experience. I come from Perth, where
it's rarely very humid - but how hot and humid has it been in Perth in the
past? And how about other cities? Does anyone have access to that sort of
information?

Cheers,
Tom
Madison, WI, USA

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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Strong winds in the Hunter
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Like many other places in the state, the Lower 
Hunter has been hit with strong winds this morning. Between 9 to noon the Max 
Gust here on the flood plains in Morpeth, got to&nbsp;42 kn. Average wind speeds 
were&nbsp;27 kn. It has eased down a bit this afternoon with average wind speed 
of around&nbsp;20 kn and gusts to&nbsp;32 kn.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Ben Quinn" <benquinn at optushome.com.au>
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Brisbane is no stranger to high-extreme humidity.  Going by the climate info
on the BOM site the average 3pm DP is in the high teens throughout the
eastern half of SE Qld (including Brisbane) in December/January/February,
increasing as you go north, but several days in a row with DP's in the 23-25
range are not uncommon in Brisbane itself.

I got the following max DP records for the Brisbane Airport (which is right
on the coast, 15k's or so from the Brisbane CBD i guess) from Blair Trewin
late last year

November - 25C
December - 26C
January - 26.5C
February - 26C
March - 26.1C


Nothing like seeing a summer forecast like "Sultry with showers and
thunderstorms"  :-)


----- Original Message -----
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> While you lot in Oz (at least those in the SE) are shivering through the
> first real winter blast at the moment, here in the USA midwest we are in
> the midst of hot and humid conditions. Currently here in Madison it's
about
> 34C with a dew point of 26C. When you go outside you feel as if you're in
a
> bath (it actually feels stickier than when I was in the Guatemala jungle
> last wet season, or as Blackadder said, "stickier than when Sticky the
> stick insect got stuck to a sticky bun").
>
> Just for comparison, I was wondering how such heat and humidity compares
> with what capital cities in Australia experience. I come from Perth, where
> it's rarely very humid - but how hot and humid has it been in Perth in the
> past? And how about other cities? Does anyone have access to that sort of
> information?
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
> Madison, WI, USA
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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wow, that is quiet humid Tom.
Brisbane in the summer time gets average DP of around 19 to 20°C, but there
would be odd days where it would get into the mid 20's. Darwin by far gets
the highest DP of any Australian capital. During the wet season it averages
around 24 to 25°C.
Sydney can get some days during summer with high DP (especially in late
summer) but I think it would be very rare for it to get near 26°C like what
you are experiencing.
I have kept records of my own of 9am and 3pm DP here in the Hunter, NSW
(just near Newcastle) and the highest DP that I have recorded that I can
think of would have to be 25.2°C recorded at 3pm on the 23/2/97. The dry
bulb was 31.0°C at that time.
If you want to find out information on average DP, RH, Temps, Rain and so
on, you can go to the Bureau of Meteorology climatic data page. It can be
found at
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/
There are many maps available as well as tables of data for specific
locations around Australia.

-Tim

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> While you lot in Oz (at least those in the SE) are shivering through the
> first real winter blast at the moment, here in the USA midwest we are in
> the midst of hot and humid conditions. Currently here in Madison it's
about
> 34C with a dew point of 26C. When you go outside you feel as if you're in
a
> bath (it actually feels stickier than when I was in the Guatemala jungle
> last wet season, or as Blackadder said, "stickier than when Sticky the
> stick insect got stuck to a sticky bun").
>
> Just for comparison, I was wondering how such heat and humidity compares
> with what capital cities in Australia experience. I come from Perth, where
> it's rarely very humid - but how hot and humid has it been in Perth in the
> past? And how about other cities? Does anyone have access to that sort of
> information?
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
> Madison, WI, USA
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Subject: aus-wx: What a bit of wild day yesterday in Adelaide.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We had patchy little to light rain at first in the 
morning.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then we had an interesting afternoon to night time. 
We had 4 hailshowers to add all up from midday to about 1am plus a distant 
thunderstorm. Once we had a squall to 32 knots with a hailshower late afternoon. 
Also we had a very close lightning causing our telephone and other electrical 
applaince to go static. Luckily my computer was on surge protection with cable 
connection though. This one was not far from our place though, just close but 
missed it. At 1am this early morning, we had a very heavy hailstorm last for 5 
minutes. Load of tiny hailstones. We had a gust to 25 knots in it too. Overall 
we got 1.4mm to 9am yesterday and 18.3mm to 9am this morning. We only recorded 
max of 10.9C yesterday up in Golden Grove. Adelaide Airport got gust to 45 knots 
that aviation been reported and Kent Town topped up 50 knots on Adelaide obs. 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yesterday photo: Nice cold air cb, the best one 
yesterday I took, good and solid top. But it show up bit hazy or fade 
though.</FONT></DIV>
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Hey John!!!

Wow!! A mesage from the future!!!!
Gimme at least one set of Tattslotto numbers....please!!! <G>

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof

P.S. Sorry....wx has been boring here for a LOOOONG time...got 5+ mm last 
night though...


>From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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>Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 15:53:46 +1000
>
>Hi Tom,
>
>Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
>hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
>humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
>storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of 
>Perth
>normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
>33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
>temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
>
>John.
> >snip
>
>Subject: aus-wx: heat and humidity
>
>While you lot in Oz (at least those in the SE) are shivering through the
>first real winter blast at the moment, here in the USA midwest we are in
>the midst of hot and humid conditions. Currently here in Madison it's about
>34C with a dew point of 26C. When you go outside you feel as if you're in a
>bath (it actually feels stickier than when I was in the Guatemala jungle
>last wet season, or as Blackadder said, "stickier than when Sticky the
>stick insect got stuck to a sticky bun").
>
>Just for comparison, I was wondering how such heat and humidity compares
>with what capital cities in Australia experience. I come from Perth, where
>it's rarely very humid - but how hot and humid has it been in Perth in the
>past? And how about other cities? Does anyone have access to that sort of
>information?
>
>Cheers,
>Tom
>Madison, WI, USA
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>> I doubt it. 
>> Because of global warming, the system is weakoning. 
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>i'm sory but this made me laugh, don't mean to be rude...
>
>cheers, lyle
>

Yes, well that sems to be the excuse for anything to do with the weather
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Hi every1,

Just updated the synoptic archive (finally!!) for July 2001...

http://wycheproof.www3.50megs.com/

As a matter of interest, is my archive worthwhile? i.e. am I re-inventing 
the wheel every month? It's getting harder and harder to find free webspace 
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A question for all the record keepers out there (well in Syd anyway).

Where could I get the rainfall records for the last 10 years for the
southern Sydney area. Looking at the Royal National Park area to be precise.

Links, data, diary records from an old guy who just happened to keep numbers
are all welcome.

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I have just added '15' excellent 'frost' photos to my web site at:
http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html

I took the photos at the bottom of the small deep valley I live in at
North Katoomba, Blue Mountains, NSW. The bottom of the valley becomes a
great frost hollow on clear cold winters nights & the '15' photos are of
that frost!
Please check them out for me!



Damian

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To all 
If you look at the trouble that some lighting research people go to useing 
rockets that trail fine conductive wires , I'd have a guess that they have 
eliminated radition as a good lighting attractor.Any thoughts by those that 
have been involved in this work ?

Dennis Cottle
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At 03:53 PM 9/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
>hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
>humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
>storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of Perth
>normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
>33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
>temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
>
>John.

This is interesting John. My feeling used to be that Perth had a dry heat 
most of the time, but that sometimes when it got really hot (say anything 
above 37C) it was humid too. Indeed, most recently I remember a number of 
days in the summer of 1999/2000 in Perth when it was hot and there were 
indeed thunderstorms - it felt humid to me (though not as drenchingly humid 
as here in Madison).

I wonder if the "common knowledge" that Perth heat is a dry heat is based 
in part on two things:
1) Most days are not humid, particularly when the temperature is below 37C.
2) The weather report has only ever reported the relative humidity in Perth 
- they have not reported dew points. Now take your example above: 44C with 
a dp of 22C makes a relative humidity of only 29% - so most people would 
think that it's not very humid.

In terms of the first point - in my experience there are two types of 
really hot day in Perth. Both involve a west coast heat trough forming. 
When the trough is off the coast, Perth experiences hot and gusty north 
easterlies, which bring in dry, hot desert air. If the trough stalls only 
just off the coast though, Perth can be stuck with virtually no wind. The 
trough seems to suck down more moist air from the north, and conditions 
become more unsettled and humid. Also, such heat waves can be broken either 
because the trough moves inland - in which case a cooling westerly wind 
springs up, or because a cold front comes through - in which case before 
the cool-down, more moisture enters the air above Perth, increasing the 
humidity and unsettled weather.

This is all my impression from living in Perth - not based on any extensive 
knowledge of the weather, so perhaps more informed people on the list could 
comment.

By the way, which is more relevant to how humid and sticky it feels - dew 
point or relative humidity?

Tom
Madison, WI, USA (8am, temp: 26C, DP: 22C)

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Paul,
The Bureau would have data frtom Audley Weir area stretching back 30+ 
years and hourly data from that site in recent years.
Don W.

Paul Mirtschin wrote:

> A question for all the record keepers out there (well in Syd anyway).
> 
> Where could I get the rainfall records for the last 10 years for the
> southern Sydney area. Looking at the Royal National Park area to be precise.
> 
> Links, data, diary records from an old guy who just happened to keep numbers
> are all welcome.
> 
>   --------------------------------------
>     Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174
>     Designer - Writer
>     paul at nothingdesign.com.au
>     www.nothingdesign.com.au
> 
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Perth's weather seems to be dominated more by heat troughs, they
normally lie very close to Perth, so the winds tend come from a E'ly
direction in summer.  It's normally quite dry as most of it is desert
and it's rare for it to receive large amounts of rainfall and buildup
some moisture, so the air becomes quite dry.  Perth would really need
NW'lies for it to become quite humid - which might come in as a
seabreeze and mix with hot air which will make it become humid
temporarily.  But I don't believe geostrophic NW'lies in Summer are very
common?  (Certainly not the 'norm').

As for humidity and dewpoint and which is more relavent to how sticky it
feels - the relative humidity is more relavent, 40/20 will feel much
drier than 24/20 for example - often nights feel more humid in Brisbane
partly because of this reason (the other being a stronger seabreeze can
bring in additional moisture).

I'm off to Sydney!

AC

Tom Johnstone wrote:
> 
> At 03:53 PM 9/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
> >hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
> >humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
> >storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of Perth
> >normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
> >33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
> >temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
> >
> >John.
> 
> This is interesting John. My feeling used to be that Perth had a dry heat
> most of the time, but that sometimes when it got really hot (say anything
> above 37C) it was humid too. Indeed, most recently I remember a number of
> days in the summer of 1999/2000 in Perth when it was hot and there were
> indeed thunderstorms - it felt humid to me (though not as drenchingly humid
> as here in Madison).
> 
> I wonder if the "common knowledge" that Perth heat is a dry heat is based
> in part on two things:
> 1) Most days are not humid, particularly when the temperature is below 37C.
> 2) The weather report has only ever reported the relative humidity in Perth
> - they have not reported dew points. Now take your example above: 44C with
> a dp of 22C makes a relative humidity of only 29% - so most people would
> think that it's not very humid.
> 
> In terms of the first point - in my experience there are two types of
> really hot day in Perth. Both involve a west coast heat trough forming.
> When the trough is off the coast, Perth experiences hot and gusty north
> easterlies, which bring in dry, hot desert air. If the trough stalls only
> just off the coast though, Perth can be stuck with virtually no wind. The
> trough seems to suck down more moist air from the north, and conditions
> become more unsettled and humid. Also, such heat waves can be broken either
> because the trough moves inland - in which case a cooling westerly wind
> springs up, or because a cold front comes through - in which case before
> the cool-down, more moisture enters the air above Perth, increasing the
> humidity and unsettled weather.
> 
> This is all my impression from living in Perth - not based on any extensive
> knowledge of the weather, so perhaps more informed people on the list could
> comment.
> 
> By the way, which is more relevant to how humid and sticky it feels - dew
> point or relative humidity?
> 
> Tom
> Madison, WI, USA (8am, temp: 26C, DP: 22C)
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From: "Paul Mirtschin" <paul at nothingdesign.com.au>
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> Paul,
> The Bureau would have data frtom Audley Weir area stretching back 30+
> years and hourly data from that site in recent years.
> Don W.

OK, now second question...

Who would I contact to get that info? Are they on the list? Would it be a
government "$17.42 access fee and 37.3 cents per page" thing or a nice big
email mysteriously appearing?

OK, so that was more than one question.

And hourly data might be a bit more than I need, handy though.

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Paul,

The best bet is to contact the climate section of the NSW Bureau of Met
office in Sydney. Telephone is (02) 9296 1555 (switchboard) or email
reqnsw at bom.gov.au

The BoM work on a cost recovery level of charging for climate data so what
you pay will depend on how much data you get, how its delivered and how long
it takes them to collate.

Cheers Ben...

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> > Paul,
> > The Bureau would have data frtom Audley Weir area stretching back 30+
> > years and hourly data from that site in recent years.
> > Don W.
>
> OK, now second question...
>
> Who would I contact to get that info? Are they on the list? Would it be a
> government "$17.42 access fee and 37.3 cents per page" thing or a nice big
> email mysteriously appearing?
>
> OK, so that was more than one question.
>
> And hourly data might be a bit more than I need, handy though.
>
>

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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi Tom,

I think your impressions of living in Perth are fairly spot on.

As a general rule of thumb the higher the temperature the lower the humidity
usually is, and pretty much anywhere in Oz you need fairly dry air to get
the temp above 37C.  There are rare exceptions of course.  But if you look
at tropical locations in Oz the record max's are well below those for the
subtropical & temperate.  Perth & Adelaide holding the 1st & 2nd highest
temps for Oz capital cities.  Inland where the desert air is very dry leads
to the hightest tenps, e.g., Birdsville on 49C.  You could bet that the RH
on that day was well below 5%.

I think RH is what makes the air feel heavy and sticky, and relates to
whether sweat dries on the skin as it is released.  Sweating is the bodies
primary mechanism for cooling and if this is not effective we feel
unconfortable.  Thus, if the sweat does dry then we feel dry and can be
comfortable up to the 37C mark and the heat can be quite deceptive.  But if
the RH is high enough for the sweat to bead then we feel hot & sticky.  We
have had two 27C days in Brisbane this week (nice for mid winter eh), but
with DP's hovering around 0C the air has been dry and it still feels cool in
any wind.  But put a DP of 26C with 27C and you definitely feel sticky with
any exertion leading to rapid sweat build up.

John.
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At 03:53 PM 9/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Tom,
>
>Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
>hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
>humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
>storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of
Perth
>normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
>33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
>temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
>
>John.

This is interesting John. My feeling used to be that Perth had a dry heat
most of the time, but that sometimes when it got really hot (say anything
above 37C) it was humid too. Indeed, most recently I remember a number of
days in the summer of 1999/2000 in Perth when it was hot and there were
indeed thunderstorms - it felt humid to me (though not as drenchingly humid
as here in Madison).

I wonder if the "common knowledge" that Perth heat is a dry heat is based
in part on two things:
1) Most days are not humid, particularly when the temperature is below 37C.
2) The weather report has only ever reported the relative humidity in Perth
- they have not reported dew points. Now take your example above: 44C with
a dp of 22C makes a relative humidity of only 29% - so most people would
think that it's not very humid.

In terms of the first point - in my experience there are two types of
really hot day in Perth. Both involve a west coast heat trough forming.
When the trough is off the coast, Perth experiences hot and gusty north
easterlies, which bring in dry, hot desert air. If the trough stalls only
just off the coast though, Perth can be stuck with virtually no wind. The
trough seems to suck down more moist air from the north, and conditions
become more unsettled and humid. Also, such heat waves can be broken either
because the trough moves inland - in which case a cooling westerly wind
springs up, or because a cold front comes through - in which case before
the cool-down, more moisture enters the air above Perth, increasing the
humidity and unsettled weather.

This is all my impression from living in Perth - not based on any extensive
knowledge of the weather, so perhaps more informed people on the list could
comment.

By the way, which is more relevant to how humid and sticky it feels - dew
point or relative humidity?

Tom
Madison, WI, USA (8am, temp: 26C, DP: 22C)

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Hi every1,

The following URL has some great photos if you have the time to peruse 
them...

http://www.weatherpictureoftheday.com/album/wpotd-album.htm

Cheers,
Kevin from (sunny) Wycheproof.

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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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  [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Nathan 
  Thompson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 08 August, 2001 4:16 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: What a bit of wild day 
  yesterday in Adelaide.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
  class=991213209-09082001>&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT>Adelaide Airport got gust to 45 
  knots that aviation been reported and Kent Town topped up 50 knots on Adelaide 
  obs. Top wind gust in South Australia yesterday was at Cape Jaffa&nbsp;that 
  had a gust to 124 kph.<FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=991213209-09082001>The 
  124km/h was reported along with a mean speed of 50km/h, which is a bit suss -- 
  rather a large gust ratio. However, unlike some stations that routinely go 
  berserk with wind gusts (Mt Hotham airport Vic, Outer Dolphin near Perth, 
  Wedding Cake in Sydney Harbour, Montagu Island NSW and Naracoorte SA seem to 
  generate something between 100 and 300km/h almost daily), Cape Jaffa is 
  usually pretty reliable. The gust also occurred about the time the front would 
  have passed through, and was accompanied by wind shift and brief heavy rain, 
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From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Storms off SW Vic Coast
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is curently a quite active storm of storms 
off&nbsp;the Victorian SW coast, tracker shows quite a few whites and radar has 
a line of green just off Portland. Eye witness accounts have lightning off 
Portland at every 15-20 seconds. </FONT></DIV>
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From: "James Chambers" <jamestorm at ozemail.com.au>
To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: March 9 SE Qld Flash Floods Report + brrr
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:09:25 +1000
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Hi all

For those bored people, I finally finished my March 9, 2001 Storm report on
the SE Qld Flash Floods.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/reports/mar09_01.html
Some truly awesome rainfall figures towards the end of the report including
317mm at Beenleigh - most of that in a few hours.  219mm at my place in
Logan.

Brrr:
As at 9.58pm it's 4.9C here in my part of Logan, just 24km south of the
Brisbane CBD (in a small valley).  Looks like another frost here after this
morning's 2.9C.

Regards
James Chambers
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Hi guys

Some very nice frost photo's there, looks like snow! I  like the one with the
dog :) keep it up

Matt Smith
http://www.sydneystormchasers.com

Tony & Damian wrote:

> I have just added '15' excellent 'frost' photos to my web site at:
> http://www.geocities.com/katoombaweather/index.html
>
> I took the photos at the bottom of the small deep valley I live in at
> North Katoomba, Blue Mountains, NSW. The bottom of the valley becomes a
> great frost hollow on clear cold winters nights & the '15' photos are of
> that frost!
> Please check them out for me!
>
> Damian
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From: "Craig Arthur" <carthur at theweather.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Glen Innes record?
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Hi All,

I was worndering how valid the record at the Glen Innes Ag research station
is. Th June record is -11C, while May, July and August are all around -7C.
Currently it's -9.3C, which is very close to the record at the Post Office
site of -9.4C, and it dropped 0.9C from 5am to 6am.

Cheers, Craig

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From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" <billwebb at tpgi.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather Control
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Hi all,

The below from another list. Not promising for those suffering SDS.

Thought it may be of interest. Sorry for cross postings

Regards,
Bill, Proserpine, NQ

**Storm Experts Make Clouds Vanish
<http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101>

Peter Cordani and his Dyn-O-Mat company in the US may be the latest
equivalent of a true fair-weather friend, able to give us sunny days
whenever we like.  Though not yet able to banish black clouds with a wave of
his magic wand, Cordani has nevertheless produced a powerful new
rain-busting product.  Dyn-O-Gel is a miraculous powder, each grain of which
is capable of absorbing 2000 times its weight in moisture, condensation and
rain.  In a recent experiment, military aircraft scattered 4 tonnes of the
powder through a storm cloud 1600 metres long and over 4000 metres deep.  "I
had calls from a weather tower and even from Channel 5 news in Miami, saying
that they had seen the cloud literally disappear off the radar screen," says
a jubilant Cordani, who now hopes to get government permission to tackle a
hurricane or a tropical storm.  What others would like now is if they could
just figure out how to 'parcel up' the cloud and drop it on some of the
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<DIV>The Glen Innes Post Office is at an elevation 1062 in the town. The Ag 
Research station is 5km west of Glen Innes at an elevation 1040m.&nbsp; So there 
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Glen Innes record?
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> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I was worndering how valid the record at the Glen Innes Ag research station
> is. Th June record is -11C, while May, July and August are all around -7C.
> Currently it's -9.3C, which is very close to the record at the Post Office
> site of -9.4C, and it dropped 0.9C from 5am to 6am.
> 
> Cheers, Craig

There are three sites in the Glen Innes area - the Post Office, the
Ag research station, and the airport. The AWS is at the airport.

Winter minima at the airport average 1.5-2 C lower than at the other
two sites - and the difference is bigger on the colder nights. Both
of the other sites are unrepresentatively warm, the Post Office 
because the site is poorly exposed (too close to bitumen and buildings),
the Ag Research station because the screen is on top of a low
ridge.

The -11 mentioned (26/6/1997) looks dodgy - there was nothing else
below -3 in New England that day. Words will be had....

The airport AWS has only been open since October 1996. In its 
five years of record its lowest temperature has been -9.7 (in 1997),
so that could have been broken last night. On the evidence so far
it appears to be one of the coldest New England sites, and I'd
expect that in a long-term record its extreme minima would be 
comparable to those at Woolbrook, which has had -14.5. 

I'll post a final number for Glen Innes when it comes through later
this morning.

Blair
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Yokosuka NPMOC satelllite images
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Has anyone succeeded in gaining access to these images at
https://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/index.pl?no. Neither my Netscape 4.7 nor IE
6.0 likes the secure site certification.

Laurier

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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Glen Innes record?
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> I'll post a final number for Glen Innes when it comes through later
> this morning.
> 

-9.9.

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I use Netscape 4.76 and i accepted the certification prompts and the site
works fine for me.

Matthew Smith

Laurier Williams wrote:

> Has anyone succeeded in gaining access to these images at
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I had no problems..when I was confronted with the message box about site
certificates or whatever I clicked "yes' where it asked me if I wanted to
proceed, and I got in and downloaded the latest infra red shot of
Australia.I didn't try anything else.
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> Has anyone succeeded in gaining access to these images at
> https://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/index.pl?no. Neither my Netscape 4.7 nor IE
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just a reminder that the ASWA AGM is being held 
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Hi all,

I have always been amazed over the years to how cold the New England gets
during the Winter. The record of -14.5°C at Woolbrook stands as the lowest
temperature recorded anywhere in Australia outside of the NSW Snowy
Mountains. It even beats the lowest record for Victoria.
I would agree with you Blair in that I wouldn't be surprised at all to see
that the Glen Innes AWS could end up threatening this record in years to
come in considering that it has only been operating for about 5 years and
its record is already -9.7°C.

On another related issue, my brother was speaking to a property owner once
from Niangala, which is a mountain plateau1350m above sea level
approximetely between Woolbrook and Nundle. He was told by this farmer that
in the last 100 years or so, it has got down to -3°F on his family's
property. That is -19°C. Whether or not this is an exaggeration, who would
know. But taking into account that Woolbrook has been down to -14.5°C and it
is at an elevation of only 900m, maybe it is possible.

cheers,
-------------------------------
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://hunterweather.port5.com


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> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was worndering how valid the record at the Glen Innes Ag research
station
> > is. Th June record is -11C, while May, July and August are all
around -7C.
> > Currently it's -9.3C, which is very close to the record at the Post
Office
> > site of -9.4C, and it dropped 0.9C from 5am to 6am.
> >
> > Cheers, Craig
>
> There are three sites in the Glen Innes area - the Post Office, the
> Ag research station, and the airport. The AWS is at the airport.
>
> Winter minima at the airport average 1.5-2 C lower than at the other
> two sites - and the difference is bigger on the colder nights. Both
> of the other sites are unrepresentatively warm, the Post Office
> because the site is poorly exposed (too close to bitumen and buildings),
> the Ag Research station because the screen is on top of a low
> ridge.
>
> The -11 mentioned (26/6/1997) looks dodgy - there was nothing else
> below -3 in New England that day. Words will be had....
>
> The airport AWS has only been open since October 1996. In its
> five years of record its lowest temperature has been -9.7 (in 1997),
> so that could have been broken last night. On the evidence so far
> it appears to be one of the coldest New England sites, and I'd
> expect that in a long-term record its extreme minima would be
> comparable to those at Woolbrook, which has had -14.5.
>
> I'll post a final number for Glen Innes when it comes through later
> this morning.
>
> Blair
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Glen Innes record?
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have always been amazed over the years to how cold the New England gets
> during the Winter. The record of -14.5°C at Woolbrook stands as the lowest
> temperature recorded anywhere in Australia outside of the NSW Snowy
> Mountains. It even beats the lowest record for Victoria.
> I would agree with you Blair in that I wouldn't be surprised at all to see
> that the Glen Innes AWS could end up threatening this record in years to
> come in considering that it has only been operating for about 5 years and
> its record is already -9.7°C.
> 
> On another related issue, my brother was speaking to a property owner once
> from Niangala, which is a mountain plateau1350m above sea level
> approximetely between Woolbrook and Nundle. He was told by this farmer that
> in the last 100 years or so, it has got down to -3°F on his family's
> property. That is -19°C. Whether or not this is an exaggeration, who would
> know. But taking into account that Woolbrook has been down to -14.5°C and it
> is at an elevation of only 900m, maybe it is possible.
> 

The big unknown here is potential feedbacks from snow cover. This
shows up quite well when you look at extreme anomalies over NSW; over
most of the state, well-exposed sites generally have record low
minima 9-11 C below their mean July minima. However, this gap jumps
to 15 C or beyond at those sites with regular snow cover (Charlottes
Pass, Perisher, Kiandra). I'd view a -19 C at 1350m in New England
as possible, given the following combination of conditions:

- a station in a valley, not in immediate proximity to major
escarpments
- clear skies and light winds
- 100% snow cover on the ground

Under normal conditions, I don't think the snow cover condition 
could be satisfied in New England at the same time at the clear
skies/light winds condition - the amount of incoming radiation here
is such that even a few hours of sunshine prior to sunset would
normally be enough to melt snow away from the shade. I imagine
it would be possible, though, that snow could have fallen heavily
enough for a cover deep enough to last through a day - the July 28,
1901 event is a possibility, although there are no other indications
of extreme low minima following this event.

The height of the thermometer could be an issue - for example, a
terrestrial minimum of -19 C would equate to a screen minimum of
-13 to -15 C, quite possible in such a location.

There are a few uninstrumented (or recently instrumented) areas 
outside the NSW Snowies where I'd consider -15 or below possible -
these include:

- the Bogong High Plains south of Falls Creek, Victoria (especially
Pretty Valley, for those who know the area)
- some of the high valleys in the Omeo area. (Mt Hotham Airport isn't
ideally sited to capture that, but I still expect that it will break
the Victorian record low sometime in the next 10-20 years).
- locally on the Tasmanian Central Plateau. (The new Liawenee site,
which seems quite a bit colder than the old one, has potential
to pick this up)
- some of the high valleys of the Monaro, particularly in Namadgi
National Park (Gudgenby, not an ideal site, has had -14.6, and I
think Orroral could go even lower), immediately south of the ACT
(Shannons Flat always struck me as potentially a very cold site,
and (old) Adaminaby has had an unofficial -16), south of Jindabyne,
and around Jerangle.

Blair
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: National composite radar loops now available
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:03:21 +1000
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An archive of national composite radar is now available at
http://www.bom.gov.au/nmoc/archives/Radar, from 30 March 2001 up to the end
of the previous month, with each new month's archive added in the first week
of the next month. One image per hour, on the hour, is given, and can be
looped up to 2 days (48 images). It gives an interesting new perspective on
radar, and rainfall systems.

Laurier

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GASP and the EC is showing some very cold air reaching the south west of WA
next week.

GASP has the 532 thickness line over Perth next Friday, and the EC has the
528 line very close to Perth on Thursday. Still a lot can change, I would
be surprised if the models keep that up in their next runs.

BoM is already noting it in their extended forecast product:

FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS:
On Sunday a high pressure ridge is expected to strengthen over southern WA
bringing fine weather in most of the SW Land Division.  
On Monday a moderate cold front  moves across the lower SW bringing a showery
change. There is a temporary easing on Tuesday as showers contract to the south
coast as a strong cold southerly change starts to build up in the Indian Ocean.

Jacob

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Hi all,
Anyone else seen that 'tornado' tearing down the suburbian street on the
latest LG ad for their new vacuum cleaner?  Bloody amazing!

See everyone tomorrow!


Mal.

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Control
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Well, I can't help myself here and say that we shouldn't be tampering with
mother nature. I have always been strong on that point. It is very
un-fortunate sometimes that people get killed or injured by severe weather
episodes. But as far as I know that is why we have weather. It is natures
way of trying to balance temperatures etc and if we upset it for example in
my part of the world then in my opinion it will rebound somewhere else.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Hi all,
>
> The below from another list. Not promising for those suffering SDS.
>
> Thought it may be of interest. Sorry for cross postings
>
> Regards,
> Bill, Proserpine, NQ
>
> **Storm Experts Make Clouds Vanish
> <http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101>
>
> Peter Cordani and his Dyn-O-Mat company in the US may be the latest
> equivalent of a true fair-weather friend, able to give us sunny days
> whenever we like.  Though not yet able to banish black clouds with a wave
of
> his magic wand, Cordani has nevertheless produced a powerful new
> rain-busting product.  Dyn-O-Gel is a miraculous powder, each grain of
which
> is capable of absorbing 2000 times its weight in moisture, condensation
and
> rain.  In a recent experiment, military aircraft scattered 4 tonnes of the
> powder through a storm cloud 1600 metres long and over 4000 metres deep.
"I
> had calls from a weather tower and even from Channel 5 news in Miami,
saying
> that they had seen the cloud literally disappear off the radar screen,"
says
> a jubilant Cordani, who now hopes to get government permission to tackle a
> hurricane or a tropical storm.  What others would like now is if they
could
> just figure out how to 'parcel up' the cloud and drop it on some of the
> rain-starved corners of the world!
>
>
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Thanks for that info Blair. Very interesting stuff. I had always thought
that the Bongong Plains would be a well exposed place for cold overnight
temps. A thing with overnight temps, not like the daytime temps, it is
influenced substantially by local factors, so therefore there could be many
locations within Australia that have been colder then any records obtained
by stations.

Cheers,
-------------------------------
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have always been amazed over the years to how cold the New England
gets
> > during the Winter. The record of -14.5°C at Woolbrook stands as the
lowest
> > temperature recorded anywhere in Australia outside of the NSW Snowy
> > Mountains. It even beats the lowest record for Victoria.
> > I would agree with you Blair in that I wouldn't be surprised at all to
see
> > that the Glen Innes AWS could end up threatening this record in years to
> > come in considering that it has only been operating for about 5 years
and
> > its record is already -9.7°C.
> >
> > On another related issue, my brother was speaking to a property owner
once
> > from Niangala, which is a mountain plateau1350m above sea level
> > approximetely between Woolbrook and Nundle. He was told by this farmer
that
> > in the last 100 years or so, it has got down to -3°F on his family's
> > property. That is -19°C. Whether or not this is an exaggeration, who
would
> > know. But taking into account that Woolbrook has been down to -14.5°C
and it
> > is at an elevation of only 900m, maybe it is possible.
> >
>
> The big unknown here is potential feedbacks from snow cover. This
> shows up quite well when you look at extreme anomalies over NSW; over
> most of the state, well-exposed sites generally have record low
> minima 9-11 C below their mean July minima. However, this gap jumps
> to 15 C or beyond at those sites with regular snow cover (Charlottes
> Pass, Perisher, Kiandra). I'd view a -19 C at 1350m in New England
> as possible, given the following combination of conditions:
>
> - a station in a valley, not in immediate proximity to major
> escarpments
> - clear skies and light winds
> - 100% snow cover on the ground
>
> Under normal conditions, I don't think the snow cover condition
> could be satisfied in New England at the same time at the clear
> skies/light winds condition - the amount of incoming radiation here
> is such that even a few hours of sunshine prior to sunset would
> normally be enough to melt snow away from the shade. I imagine
> it would be possible, though, that snow could have fallen heavily
> enough for a cover deep enough to last through a day - the July 28,
> 1901 event is a possibility, although there are no other indications
> of extreme low minima following this event.
>
> The height of the thermometer could be an issue - for example, a
> terrestrial minimum of -19 C would equate to a screen minimum of
> -13 to -15 C, quite possible in such a location.
>
> There are a few uninstrumented (or recently instrumented) areas
> outside the NSW Snowies where I'd consider -15 or below possible -
> these include:
>
> - the Bogong High Plains south of Falls Creek, Victoria (especially
> Pretty Valley, for those who know the area)
> - some of the high valleys in the Omeo area. (Mt Hotham Airport isn't
> ideally sited to capture that, but I still expect that it will break
> the Victorian record low sometime in the next 10-20 years).
> - locally on the Tasmanian Central Plateau. (The new Liawenee site,
> which seems quite a bit colder than the old one, has potential
> to pick this up)
> - some of the high valleys of the Monaro, particularly in Namadgi
> National Park (Gudgenby, not an ideal site, has had -14.6, and I
> think Orroral could go even lower), immediately south of the ACT
> (Shannons Flat always struck me as potentially a very cold site,
> and (old) Adaminaby has had an unofficial -16), south of Jindabyne,
> and around Jerangle.
>
> Blair
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Thanks for all those that replied. The problem was that I was running a
version of Netscape 4.7 without 128 bit encryption. Once I downloaded and
installed 4.76 (which does have 128 bit encryption), everything magically
works.

Laurier


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You guys are getting that too - these lg vacuum cleaners must pack some
cyclone (:

Les (UK)

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> Hi all,
> Anyone else seen that 'tornado' tearing down the suburbian street on the
> latest LG ad for their new vacuum cleaner?  Bloody amazing!
>
> See everyone tomorrow!
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We also have an intensley irritating Alfa Romeo ad running where the guy
goes through a tornado in it.

Les (UK)
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> Hi all,
> Anyone else seen that 'tornado' tearing down the suburbian street on the
> latest LG ad for their new vacuum cleaner?  Bloody amazing!
>
> See everyone tomorrow!
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These adds suck.............
What do you get when you cross a tornado and some music?
Let's twist again like we did like summer...........
Hell. I'm outa here...
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> We also have an intensley irritating Alfa Romeo ad running where the guy
> goes through a tornado in it.
>
> Les (UK)
> Les Crossan and Christine Challen,
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> >
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There's a Fiat advert running in this country where they try outrun a
volcanic pyroclastic flow and half way through it they stop and have an
argument over who's driving....

Not the most tasteful ad considering Mount Etna is up to its tricks again.

Did you guys ever see the Volvo ad starring Gene Rhoden dodging tyres /
tractors etc (no cows surprisingly) to put a probe in the path of a
tornado???

AARGH...

Les
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> These adds suck.............
> What do you get when you cross a tornado and some music?
> Let's twist again like we did like summer...........
> Hell. I'm outa here...
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> > We also have an intensley irritating Alfa Romeo ad running where the guy
> > goes through a tornado in it.
> >
> > Les (UK)
> > Les Crossan and Christine Challen,
> > Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W
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Hi every1,

Keith Brown has just posted some lovely shots of HP SCs, lightning, and 
tornadoes on his website, for those that don't know the guy...

http://weather.ou.edu/~kbrown/photo11.html

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Subject: aus-wx: The frogs, the frogs....
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Hey Clyve! They're back!!! The frogs are going mad at the East end of town
at the minute. Let's wait and see what they're "talking" about. :-))
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Hi all,

The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
back a few points but still looks very promising).

IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to low
levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.

The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind altering
substances yet...

This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
off....!!

Patrick


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From: "Duncan & Mandy" <duncman at octa4.net.au>
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I'm not quite sure about the highest temps. in Australia without humidity.
The highest Temp. ever recorded in Australia was at Cloncurry - 53.1C. This
is in the Gulf country of Central Northern Queensland, where it can become
very humid indeed. One place I would never like to live is Marble Bar,
Northern W.A. During the summer temperatures are always above 40C and RH is
often above 50%. In fact, most inland centres in tropical Australia
(Katherine, Mt Isa, etc.) record high temps. and high humidity levels
throughout the wet season. The weather map on the news is a bit misleading,
as it only gives the temps for main tropical centres located on the coast,
which nearly always have temps around 32C. ANyway, just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers,
Duncan
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 19:31:08 +0800
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The frogs are going mad here in Hong Kong today too.  Do you reckon they 
might be cooking up something between them?

Phil
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> Hey Clyve! They're back!!! The frogs are going mad at the East end of
> town
> at the minute. Let's wait and see what they're "talking" about. :-))
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Hi all,

Just briefly reporting on the most successful AGM ever. This was so 
organised and well put together. The AGM committee did a fantastic job and 
people really blended in and enjoyed themselves.

We shall report on the official matters later.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
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Here Here Jimmy,

I'd just like to echo Jims thoughts :)

Max
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> Hi all,
>
> Just briefly reporting on the most successful AGM ever. This was so
> organised and well put together. The AGM committee did a fantastic job and
> people really blended in and enjoyed themselves.
>
> We shall report on the official matters later.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
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Hi Patrick and others,

It is good to see that the NOGAPS and MRF are agreeing with the GASP models.
In
the last week, the NOGAPS and MRF (around the +72hr and higher) have been
completely different to what the GASP models were predicting. Usually when
the models are all agreeing with each other, it is always a promising sign.
I think I won't get to excited until I see what the models are saying around
mid week.
-------------------------------
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://hunterweather.port5.com

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> Hi all,
>
> The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
> thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
> with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
> thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
> back a few points but still looks very promising).
>
> IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to
low
> levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
> likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.
>
> The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
> 50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind
altering
> substances yet...
>
> This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
> off....!!
>
> Patrick
>
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From: "Tina Jones" <bjones14 at postoffice.csu.edu.au>
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:19:37 +1000
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Gee I hope you are right!!!!

Tina :-)
----- Original Message -----
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> Hi all,
>
> The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
> thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
> with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
> thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
> back a few points but still looks very promising).
>
> IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to
low
> levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
> likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.
>
> The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
> 50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind
altering
> substances yet...
>
> This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
> off....!!
>
> Patrick
>
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From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net>
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Subject: aus-wx: Aerological diagrams
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 18:41:37 +1000
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Do ASWA members have access to the Bureau's 
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Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:18:37 +1000
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Bring it on...  !!!!!

If its anything like last May 28-29th,, watch out.. 

Dave 

Bathurst 

Tina Jones wrote:
> 
> Gee I hope you are right!!!!
> 
> Tina :-)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Tobin" <patricktobin at ozemail.com.au>
> To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:35 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Cold outbreak on the way??
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
> > thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
> > with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
> > thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
> > back a few points but still looks very promising).
> >
> > IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to
> low
> > levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
> > likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.
> >
> > The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
> > 50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind
> altering
> > substances yet...
> >
> > This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
> > off....!!
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
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Hi all,

Just arrived back from Sydney.  Well, what can I say?  Last year when I
attended the ASWA AGM, it was a significant improvement on the '99 one,
and I thought it couldn't get much better.  Well, that was blown out of
the water after the ASWA AGM weekend for this weekend!!!  Absolutely
phenomenal - and FANTASTIC work to those people who spent months
organising it all, and while I don't normally name names - I will in
this case :)

Matthew Pearce
Daniel Weatherhead
James Harris
Matthew Smith
Matthew Piper

And several other people who gave a helping hand when it was needed -
possibly too many to mention, it was just tremendous.

For those who were unable to attend the ASWA AGM, or any of its four
events over the weekend - hopefully people can fill you in on what
happened.  But as a brief rundown of the weekend:

Friday, ASWA "Pizza & Video Night" - A night of casual fun by all who
attended!  Videos, pizza and lots of meeting of old friends and making
of new friendships occurred.  This went from 7pm to 12:15am - a great
night all up!

Saturday, ASWA AGM - Everyone was blown away with goosebumps when Daniel
Weatherhead showed the instroductory video with assorted ASWA members'
chase footage to a musical piece.  It set the mood for the rest of the
day - with four presentations being the feature of the day!  ASWA
business was raised and discussed, and members' were given the
opportunity to discuss certain aspects of ASWA if they so wished.

Saturday, ASWA Dinner - Most of the 30+ attendees of the AGM stayed for
dinner and drinks, again enjoyed by everyone with great feedack!

Sunday, Annual ASWA BBQ - ASWA famalies and all turned up in flocks! 
Games of cricket, frizbee and kite flying with a BBQ lunch, a great way
to end the weekend!

Thank you so much once again to all who assisted in the organising of a
perfect weekend.  It really was a dream to experience such a wonderful
event!
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:24:22 +1000
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Hi all,

Just to again add to Anthony, and my previous comments, I cannot emphasise 
how much we would like others to realise such a fantastic atmosphere. Those 
who attended this year's AGM will certainly be thinking of excuses to 
attend future ones.

If anyone had the opportunity to come along in the future, make the effort 
- you won't be disappointed.

For those who never attended and wished they could, our thoughts were with 
the whole of ASWA as always.

Jimmy Deguara

At 12:04 AM 8/13/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Just arrived back from Sydney.  Well, what can I say?  Last year when I
>attended the ASWA AGM, it was a significant improvement on the '99 one,
>and I thought it couldn't get much better.  Well, that was blown out of
>the water after the ASWA AGM weekend for this weekend!!!  Absolutely
>phenomenal - and FANTASTIC work to those people who spent months
>organising it all, and while I don't normally name names - I will in
>this case :)
>
>Matthew Pearce
>Daniel Weatherhead
>James Harris
>Matthew Smith
>Matthew Piper
>
>And several other people who gave a helping hand when it was needed -
>possibly too many to mention, it was just tremendous.
>
>For those who were unable to attend the ASWA AGM, or any of its four
>events over the weekend - hopefully people can fill you in on what
>happened.  But as a brief rundown of the weekend:
>
>Friday, ASWA "Pizza & Video Night" - A night of casual fun by all who
>attended!  Videos, pizza and lots of meeting of old friends and making
>of new friendships occurred.  This went from 7pm to 12:15am - a great
>night all up!
>
>Saturday, ASWA AGM - Everyone was blown away with goosebumps when Daniel
>Weatherhead showed the instroductory video with assorted ASWA members'
>chase footage to a musical piece.  It set the mood for the rest of the
>day - with four presentations being the feature of the day!  ASWA
>business was raised and discussed, and members' were given the
>opportunity to discuss certain aspects of ASWA if they so wished.
>
>Saturday, ASWA Dinner - Most of the 30+ attendees of the AGM stayed for
>dinner and drinks, again enjoyed by everyone with great feedack!
>
>Sunday, Annual ASWA BBQ - ASWA famalies and all turned up in flocks!
>Games of cricket, frizbee and kite flying with a BBQ lunch, a great way
>to end the weekend!
>
>Thank you so much once again to all who assisted in the organising of a
>perfect weekend.  It really was a dream to experience such a wonderful
>event!
>--
>Anthony Cornelius
>Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
>Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
>(07) 3390 4812
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au

Web Page with Michael Bath

Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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Duncan...
That Cloncurry temp is now rejected... seems our hottest was an 
Oodndatta on 2-1-1960 - 50.7.
Cheers,
don White

Duncan & Mandy wrote:

> I'm not quite sure about the highest temps. in Australia without humidity.
> The highest Temp. ever recorded in Australia was at Cloncurry - 53.1C. This
> is in the Gulf country of Central Northern Queensland, where it can become
> very humid indeed. One place I would never like to live is Marble Bar,
> Northern W.A. During the summer temperatures are always above 40C and RH is
> often above 50%. In fact, most inland centres in tropical Australia
> (Katherine, Mt Isa, etc.) record high temps. and high humidity levels
> throughout the wet season. The weather map on the news is a bit misleading,
> as it only gives the temps for main tropical centres located on the coast,
> which nearly always have temps around 32C. ANyway, just my 2 cents worth.
> Cheers,
> Duncan
> Alice Springs
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No, there isn't, but it is still easy enough to get in at the moment.
The BoM haven't entirely locked it up (yet).
Poke your browser at
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/reg/IDS65024/IDS65024.shtml
It will ask you to log in.
The user id is    bomw0007 (all lower case)
The password is   aviation (all lower case)



> Keith Barnett wrote:
> 
> Do ASWA members have access to the Bureau's aerological diagrams via
> a common password? If so can anyone please tell me what it is?
> Thanx...
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Hi all,

Just had a report of local thunder in the Camden/Narellan area (SW Sydney)
at 12:15pm.  Current BoM metro forecast is going for isolated thunderstorms
near the beaches, and current radar loops show a line of precip N-S now
currently moving in an easterly direction.  A few of the echos are
yellow/green, with a few small pink areas.  

Great AGM weekend too, btw... and when can I get a copy of that opening
video sequence? Fantastic!  Good to see everyone there, and it gave me an
opportunity to put a few faces to the new names that I've been seeing on
this list for a while now.

Anyhow, enough from me.

Mal Ninnes
(Sydney)


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<P>Just agreeing with Jimmy, Anthony and Max - a fantastic meeting.&nbsp; Congratulations to the organisers and the presenters.&nbsp; As I said to several people the opening video clip was very professional and set the scene beautifully.&nbsp; Michael Bath's presentation on the Casino event was enthralling and explained the event ranging from every technical aspect to a stunning visual video presentation.&nbsp; Anthony Cornelius gave a detailed informative presentation about what enhances thunderstorm development, intancing the theory with clear examples taken from the last year - I think I learnt a lot from this talk.&nbsp; Clyve Herbert's folksy charasmatic and enthusiastic talk had this listener spellbound as he weaved together memories from his past and our collective&nbsp;shared history&nbsp;and connected Abigail and the Duck- Clyve could talk sensibly about meteorology, underwater with a mouthful of marbles.&nbsp; Finally Jimmy and David on inflow, wall and beaver clouds!
!
 will make thunderstorm watching even more interesting for this watcher, and then they topped off the day beautifully with some stunning images from their trip to the USA.&nbsp; 10 out of 10 - well done all involved.&nbsp; Apologies if I've pre-empted some of the minutes!</P>
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 From Jimmy

>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jimmy Deguara <jimmydeguara at rocketmail.com>
>Subject: Storms off the coast
>To: Michael Bath <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
>
>Michael,
>
>Pass this on to the aussie weather list for me.
>-------------------------------------
>Hi all,
>
>I have been checking the models as I have not been
>able to for a little while. Clyve and I had some brief
>discussions and I was interested in the major
>cumulonimbus off the coast which yesterday - Sunday
>was developing on its NW flank. Thanks for informing
>that Clyve.
>
>The wind shear dynamics are almost non-existent in the
>upper levels above 500hPa and the lower levels from
>500hPa down to the surface is consistent with a SE
>flow. Ths indicated to me that development of
>cumulonimbus is going to occur on the NW flank. Radar
>indicates this clearly and also shows at the ttime of
>this e-mail a cell on the coast near Ulladulla. I
>would anticipate that with continued instability and
>also sufficient moisture, storms are possible
>particularly along the coastal sections. Some could be
>quite reasonable storms. I am particularly interested
>in the moisture profile around Central Coast and
>Newcastle areas. There is a cold front in the southern
>parts and this is linked with a trough in eastern NSW
>at the moment.
>
>My brother went fishing yesterday and there was a
>strong N current flowing so this indicates that sea
>surface temps should remain healthy for the time
>being.
>
>Cheers.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>
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Hi all,

Just like to add my thanks to all those responsible for organising the ASWA
AGM and those who gave presentations, it is really becoming more of a
Conference than an AGM (and maybe it should!).  Fantastic stuff folks, and
really justifies the cost of making it from interstate.  Looking forward to
next year already!!

John Woodbridge

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From: "Adam Mayo" <oyam at bigpond.com>
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Subject: aus-wx:   Thundering at Mona Vale.   NSW
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Hi Everyone,

We are having some loud thunder and steady rain at Mona Vale now [12.45 pm
Monday].  Murphy's Law DOES exist because our painter came back again
today!!!!!!!!  It kept fine for his holiday.

Judy Mayo

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow Sydney!(1912).
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:52:44 +1000
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Hi all and Blair.
I have come across a brief report in the monthly weather report BOM, in
respect to a brief snowfall in Sydney on 29th of August 1912. snow was also
reported over a wide area of southeast Australia including a few flakes in
Melbourne. The snowfall in Sydney is officially reported by the BOM as the
first in 75 years of record. Does anybody have any further data on this
event. Regards Clyve Herbert.

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi all.
I wish to send a special thankyou for all involved with this years ASWA AGM,
especially to the effort of the AGM committee who have produced an event of
remarkable quality and standard. I would like to make a special remark on
the ASWA storm chase video, the production level was stunning and a special
thanks to Danial Weatherhead and Matt Piper (I hope I haven't left anybody
else out) for their supercell effort. I hope like many others that if the
coming years achieve the standard of this AGM I can only say I wouldn't miss
them for the World, best wishes Clyve Herbert.

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:19:57 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi Keith,

They're accessed using the aviation password which is publically
available.

username: bomw0007
password: aviation

AC

> Keith Barnett wrote:
> 
> Do ASWA members have access to the Bureau's aerological diagrams via a
> common password? If so can anyone please tell me what it is?
> Thanx...

-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 08:33:53 +1000
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Hi all,

Could get interesting here today...our sounding has cooled massively to
12z last night, and AVN suggests that it will stay this way at least
until after this afternoon.  The sounding for last night showed 7C  at 
850mb, -2C  at  700mb, -22C  at  500mb, (!!!), -40C  at  300mb.  Very cold no
doubt, especially for E'ly (SE to NE) winds!  A weak trough lies both
inland and out to sea.  The BoM forecast is for afternoon showers -
aviation forecast isn't overly exciting.  I would have thought even if
we just get showers, there'd be some hail in them (tends to happen in
these situations up here).  But I think there's a fair chance of storms
also today.  Also into NE NSW.  The windshear is slack in the low-mid
levels (usual), but a 125kn jet in the upper levels, although I doubt
any storms that form today (if they do form) will get that high.

Just hope it doesn't dry out today in the low levels!
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Anthony Cornelius
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CB's and CJ's are littered throughout the Sydney Metro. Hail has been
reported from Toongabbie and from the looks of the radar some of those
storms are quite nasty, with some of them pushing into the pink. . The
static on AM is going quite literally nuts and i can hear thunder from my
present location. Isn't the weather gods nice to hold off the severe weather
until the day after the AGM

more to follow

dann
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> Hi all,
>
> Just had a report of local thunder in the Camden/Narellan area (SW Sydney)
> at 12:15pm.  Current BoM metro forecast is going for isolated
thunderstorms
> near the beaches, and current radar loops show a line of precip N-S now
> currently moving in an easterly direction.  A few of the echos are
> yellow/green, with a few small pink areas.
>
> Great AGM weekend too, btw... and when can I get a copy of that opening
> video sequence? Fantastic!  Good to see everyone there, and it gave me an
> opportunity to put a few faces to the new names that I've been seeing on
> this list for a while now.
>
> Anyhow, enough from me.
>
> Mal Ninnes
> (Sydney)
>
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Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Sydney metro (more)
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 13:46:11 +1000
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Well, in my earlier email, I meant 'moving in a westerly direction'.   Seems
I still have trouble with that one.    :)

Anyhow, more reports around 1pm of 1cm hail (not severe) in the Narellan
area...and I also saw several bright cg's (against dark clouds) out towards
the Penrith area around the same time.   Winds around here at 1pm are at
about 30km/h from the SE.

Mal Ninnes
(Sydney)


> ----------
> From: 	Malcolm Ninnes
> Sent: 	Monday, 13 August 2001 12:25
> To: 	'aussie-weather at world.std.com'
> Subject: 	WEATHER: Sydney metro
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just had a report of local thunder in the Camden/Narellan area (SW Sydney)
> at 12:15pm.  Current BoM metro forecast is going for isolated
> thunderstorms near the beaches, and current radar loops show a line of
> precip N-S now currently moving in an easterly direction.  A few of the
> echos are yellow/green, with a few small pink areas.  
> 
> Great AGM weekend too, btw... and when can I get a copy of that opening
> video sequence? Fantastic!  Good to see everyone there, and it gave me an
> opportunity to put a few faces to the new names that I've been seeing on
> this list for a while now.
> 
> Anyhow, enough from me.
> 
> Mal Ninnes
> (Sydney)
> 
> 
> 
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The change has swept through here. We have had about 25 minutes of
torrential rain including about 2 minutes of hail of about 1cm in size, and
gusty winds The temp dropped from 23.8  at  1pm to 15.1  at  1:50pm

dann
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> Well, in my earlier email, I meant 'moving in a westerly direction'.
Seems
> I still have trouble with that one.    :)
>
> Anyhow, more reports around 1pm of 1cm hail (not severe) in the Narellan
> area...and I also saw several bright cg's (against dark clouds) out
towards
> the Penrith area around the same time.   Winds around here at 1pm are at
> about 30km/h from the SE.
>
> Mal Ninnes
> (Sydney)
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: Malcolm Ninnes
> > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 12:25
> > To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com'
> > Subject: WEATHER: Sydney metro
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Just had a report of local thunder in the Camden/Narellan area (SW
Sydney)
> > at 12:15pm.  Current BoM metro forecast is going for isolated
> > thunderstorms near the beaches, and current radar loops show a line of
> > precip N-S now currently moving in an easterly direction.  A few of the
> > echos are yellow/green, with a few small pink areas.
> >
> > Great AGM weekend too, btw... and when can I get a copy of that opening
> > video sequence? Fantastic!  Good to see everyone there, and it gave me
an
> > opportunity to put a few faces to the new names that I've been seeing on
> > this list for a while now.
> >
> > Anyhow, enough from me.
> >
> > Mal Ninnes
> > (Sydney)
> >
> >
> >
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<x-flowed>
Hi all: Yep, I am speechless - absolutely fantastic weekend. The organising 
committee did a superb job. We are also very lucky indeed to have some 
exceptional meteorological minds in our midst.

I'm really looking forward to the AGM 2002; and, of course, some big storms 
during the upcoming season :-)

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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:11:20 +1000
From: Matthew Smith <tornado at cnn.net.au>
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Waterspouts off the south coast
im late for work, more later.

nice little storm comming ashore just south of newcastle, plenty of CG
lightning in it earlier, weakening now i think.

gone

Matt Smith

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<x-flowed>
      Hey everyone, 2pm
           Also received a 10 minute storm at Glenorie, with a few close cgs 
and the lovely various shades of thunder echoes.  Currently storms in a line 
out near Penrith-Richmond-Maroota, with more thunder from the E/SE now,   
and the crazy man with his hail gun has fired up for the first time this 
(pre) season, almost like cutting the ribbon on the storm season :).
        P.S the AGM was pretty damn good, not just the presentations, but 
meeting all the fellow ASWA 'characters' as well!  I'm off to buy the 
Armageddon soundtrack, roll on spring.........

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From: "Adam Mayo" <oyam at bigpond.com>
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Here at Mona Vale the temperature has gone from 20 before storm to a rather
cold 7 at 3 pm.
 Judy

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> The change has swept through here. We have had about 25 minutes of
> torrential rain including about 2 minutes of hail of about 1cm in size,
and
> gusty winds The temp dropped from 23.8  at  1pm to 15.1  at  1:50pm
>
> dann
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> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 1:46 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: WEATHER: Sydney metro (more)
>
>
> > Well, in my earlier email, I meant 'moving in a westerly direction'.
> Seems
> > I still have trouble with that one.    :)
> >
> > Anyhow, more reports around 1pm of 1cm hail (not severe) in the Narellan
> > area...and I also saw several bright cg's (against dark clouds) out
> towards
> > the Penrith area around the same time.   Winds around here at 1pm are at
> > about 30km/h from the SE.
> >
> > Mal Ninnes
> > (Sydney)
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Malcolm Ninnes
> > > Sent: Monday, 13 August 2001 12:25
> > > To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com'
> > > Subject: WEATHER: Sydney metro
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Just had a report of local thunder in the Camden/Narellan area (SW
> Sydney)
> > > at 12:15pm.  Current BoM metro forecast is going for isolated
> > > thunderstorms near the beaches, and current radar loops show a line of
> > > precip N-S now currently moving in an easterly direction.  A few of
the
> > > echos are yellow/green, with a few small pink areas.
> > >
> > > Great AGM weekend too, btw... and when can I get a copy of that
opening
> > > video sequence? Fantastic!  Good to see everyone there, and it gave me
> an
> > > opportunity to put a few faces to the new names that I've been seeing
on
> > > this list for a while now.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, enough from me.
> > >
> > > Mal Ninnes
> > > (Sydney)
> > >
> > >
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Hi all

Looks like there are a few isolated Thunderstorms starting to happen over NE
NSW (coastal areas) at present (3.00pm).

Maybe it will be a little more interesting in SE QLD than forecast ?

Regards
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From: "Anthony Spierings" <as029 at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: BNE - Has it been a cold winter? - Blair?
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Hello All,

This might be a question that Blair can answer, if he has a spare thirty
minutes.  

In the last week or so, I have heard a number of people pronounce; "We
have not had a cold winter in Brisbane this year".  I have let these
remarks slide without comment, but it now has me wondering.  What type
of winter has Brisbane had?  Is a "running average" of temperatures
available on the BoM site?

The next question is for the tea-leaf readers, crystal balls, and ant
activity watchers.  Considering the type of winter that Brisbane has
had, what are the predictions for the upcoming spring storm season?



Regards,

Anthony Spierings
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Mixed cloud drifting in, with some darker clouds to SE.




A cell NW from Coffs Harbour.


Nothing of interest yet. Storm season about another month away. Yippeee!!!!

Ian isles
Coffs Harbour
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Hi all

Looks like there are a few isolated Thunderstorms starting to happen over NE
NSW (coastal areas) at present (3.00pm).

Maybe it will be a little more interesting in SE QLD than forecast ?

Regards
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hi all,
some half arsed activity up this way today.
see for yourself http://www.bsch.au.com/webcams/gold_coast.html

thanx


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I heard a while ago there has been hail in some places in Lake Macquarie.
Here at Morpeth we have been getting a little bit of thunder this afternoon.
The temperature has dropped and now feels quiet cold.
---------------------------------
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://hunterweather.port5.com

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> Waterspouts off the south coast
> im late for work, more later.
>
> nice little storm comming ashore just south of newcastle, plenty of CG
> lightning in it earlier, weakening now i think.
>
> gone
>
> Matt Smith
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Update from Coffs Harbour. Didn't look too interesting and then about half
an hour ago we had a storm start to rumble around and then hail about pea
size.

Not enough to turn lawn white but enough to see easily on the lawn.

Ian Isles
Coffs harbour

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Mixed cloud drifting in, with some darker clouds to SE.




A cell NW from Coffs Harbour.


Nothing of interest yet. Storm season about another month away. Yippeee!!!!

Ian isles
Coffs Harbour
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Hi all

Looks like there are a few isolated Thunderstorms starting to happen over NE
NSW (coastal areas) at present (3.00pm).

Maybe it will be a little more interesting in SE QLD than forecast ?

Regards
Simon

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Clyve...
Where did you get that information. The 29 August 1912 in Sydney had a 
temp range of 8.2 to 12.7. Winds were SW and the weather description was 
afternoon shower about. Sydney had no rain to 9 am on 29th and 1 mm to 
30th... so I believe it was just another snow myth of which there are 
many. No BoM report for the time indicates anything.
Cheers,
Don W

clyve herbert wrote:

> Hi all and Blair.
> I have come across a brief report in the monthly weather report BOM, in
> respect to a brief snowfall in Sydney on 29th of August 1912. snow was also
> reported over a wide area of southeast Australia including a few flakes in
> Melbourne. The snowfall in Sydney is officially reported by the BOM as the
> first in 75 years of record. Does anybody have any further data on this
> event. Regards Clyve Herbert.
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Was a few flashes of lightning towards Wollombi on my way home from work
about 3.35pm today, but other than some rain, nothing exciting.
Carolyn


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From: "islesit" <islesit at tpg.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow Sydney!(1912).
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This is something im interested in as well. Ive heard reports of snow
settling on the ground in martin place in the early 1830's but id love to
find some solid information about any and all snow falls in Sydney.

Ian isles

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Hi all and Blair.
I have come across a brief report in the monthly weather report BOM, in
respect to a brief snowfall in Sydney on 29th of August 1912. snow was also
reported over a wide area of southeast Australia including a few flakes in
Melbourne. The snowfall in Sydney is officially reported by the BOM as the
first in 75 years of record. Does anybody have any further data on this
event. Regards Clyve Herbert.

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From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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Hate to put an end to our chances of scoring some interest... but the latest
00Z GASP run has dug up a near classical cold outbreak for SE Australia on
Friday. The 00Z run shows an 850hPa temperature over Melbourne of around -5
with a thickness of ~522gpdm Friday 10am. This is promptly followed by a
significant warm-front on Saturday (well the closest we Victorian get to
see) with a warming of nearly 7C at 850hPa, then a second cold-outbreak on
the Sunday with 850hPa around -5C by Monday morning (thickness values
~525gpdm). The Friday cold-outbreak is nearly optimal for heavy snow to low
levels in Victoria with the coldest air coming through in the early morning
hours, and a substantial southerly component to the winds (often we see
westerlies or northwestlies) leading to rain-shadowing of much of the state.
For those unfamiliar with thickness values, a value of around 524-6gpdm is
the typical rule of thumb cut off for snow to ~ sea level.

Probably as remarkable as the low temperature following the fronts is the
warmth ahead. On Thursday, the 850hPa temperature is progged to reach 11C
over Melbourne, WHICH could feasibly give a maximum of about 26C.... but
with the expected cloud, rain, and bad timing of warmest air (early morning)
will probably see something closer to around 18C. The alpine AWSs could be
interesting to watch as these should see a change of around 15C with the
front... with rain changing to snow.

Anyway, happy weather watching.

Cheers,

David.

                                                              
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In the meanwhilst
There's cold outbreak expected over the east coast of NZ from this evening
with thunderstorms and hail forcasted for Otago/Canterbury/ Marlborough
tommorrow.
On the telly it said that NZ should brace itself for a cold snap!
a special snow alert by MetService has been issued:

Road Snowfall Warning 
Road Snowfall Warnings are issued only for the Milford Road, the Rimutaka
Hill Road, and the Desert Road.


ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 15:08 13 Aug 2001
VALID UNTIL 00:00 14 Aug 2001
 
 
A cold front which moved over Fiordland and Southland mid morning on
Monday lay from from south Westland to south Canterbury at 3pm Monday
and is moving northeast followed by a cold showery southwest change. 
The front should reach Cook Strait early on Tuesday morning.   
About 6 to 9 hours after the front the flow is expected to turn
southerly and become even colder.
 
MILFORD ROAD
Showers are expected to turn to snow down to 300 or 400 metres
tonight.  1 to 3cm is possible down to 800 metres near the Homer
tunnel between about 6pm and 10pm Monday before skies clear.  Near
the Te Anau end of the road, especially where it passes over the Main
Divide, there will probably be 3 to 8cm of snow down to 300 or 400
metres between about 6pm today and 10am Tuesday.
 
PORTERS PASS
A southwest change is expected to sweep over the Canterbury plains
late Monday afternoon or early evening with showers near the coast.
However colder southerlies are likely to spread showers further
inland early on Tuesday morning and gradually turn to snow down to
400 or 500 metres.  In the 12 hours from about 2am Tuesday, 8 to 12cm
of snow is possible above 800 metres and 2 to 5cm down to 400 or 500
metres.
 
This warning will be reviewed at or before 10am Tuesday.
 
Disclaimer: These warnings provide information regarding expected
weather conditions. They contain no information about current road
conditions or about the amount of snow currently lying on any road.
For Road information telephone MetPhone 0900 999 + your area code.
 (C) Copyright Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd 2001
© 2001 Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd.


I'm waiting ...

JohnGaul
NZ thunderstorm Society

At 20:19 12/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Gee I hope you are right!!!!
>
>Tina :-)
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>Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 8:35 AM
>Subject: aus-wx: Cold outbreak on the way??
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
>> thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
>> with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
>> thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
>> back a few points but still looks very promising).
>>
>> IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to
>low
>> levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
>> likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.
>>
>> The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
>> 50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind
>altering
>> substances yet...
>>
>> This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
>> off....!!
>>
>> Patrick



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From: "Ben Tichborne" <tich at netaccess.co.nz>
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> The latest runs of NOGAPS, MRF and GASP are all going for sub 528
> thicknesses over large parts of Victoria, SA and NSW from next Friday and
> with lots of moisture and precipitation to go with it. MRF is going for a
> thickness of 524 over Melbourne next Saturday (I dare say this will wind
> back a few points but still looks very promising).
>
> IF the above scenario plays out, there couldl be widespread snowfalls to
low
> levels in Victoria and southern NSW (and possibly the far SE of SA) with
> likely road closures in many places above 300m-400m due to snow.
>
> The resorts in the Alps should do particularly well with anywhere between
> 50cm to 1m likely next weekend - and no I haven't consumed any mind
altering
> substances yet...
>
> This is looking similar to late May last year  - so lets hope it comes
> off....!!
>
> Patrick

 This impending outbreak may or may not reach NZ later. But that's a long
way off. Meanwhile, a real southerly blast is actually moving onto the South
Island right now. After a fine, mild (mid teens) day, temperatures have now
dropped to around 6 - 7 C and its showery with a strong southerly. The media
is hyping up this cold snap, as the southern hydro lakes are pretty low, and
everyone in the country is being urged to save power. An icy southerly is
not going to help. MetService doesn't seem to be predicting the very low
snow levels that you'd expect with such media attention - they're
forecasting  snow to 200 - 300 metres in the far south, 400 - 600 metres
further north in the South Island, and (tomorrow) 800 metres in the central
North Island. But then again snow levels often end up lower than previously
forecast in the really cold blasts. (might compensate for a few polar
southerlies that didn't eventuate, but were predicted days before in
long-range forecasts earlier this winter)

Ben
Christchurch
NZ

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Hi all

I'd like to echo the thoughts mentioned so far about the ASWA AGM.  This
was my first attendance, and it was way, way, WAY beyond my expectations.
Not only was it fantastic to finally meet everyone and put faces to names,
all presentations during the AGM were extremely interesting and of high
quality (if only some of the conferences I've been to were like this!).  I
drove to Sydney from Melbourne and back again (21 hours in the car in
total, just arriving a few minutes ago), and if ALL that was presented on
the weekend was that video shown as an introduction to the AGM on
Saturday, then it still would've been worth it!!!! 

I look forward to seeing most of you all again on TDU this year (hope the
feeling is mutual :-), and again at next year's AGM.  And for those that
may have been umming and ahhing about whether to come to this AGM and
didn't, then YOU HAVE TO COME NEXT YEAR!!!!!!  For interests sake, it cost
me $88 of petrol for the whole trip in my Daihatsu Charade, and I stayed
at the Gladesville Motel at $75 a night for 3 nights for a single room. 
This was the cheapest out of ~10 motels in the area, and was conveniently
placed in between all the AGM venues, and was close to the city as well
for a spot of sightseeing. 


Cheers

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Stormy night in Christchurch.
Strong southerly winds and rain now, no thunder or hail here unfortunately
as "due to global warming" and the fact the barometer is rising quickly, it
should be back to 'normal' weather tomorrow once a low has formed off the
East cape of the NI ! ie. a ridge pushing in and making the weather boring-er!
With the temperature drop combined with the southerly and the rain now
falling, it looks as though there will be some good snowfalls along the
Canterbury side of the S. Alps.
Next WE here looks as though there could be a good NW situation that could
help fill up our hydro lakes which are quite low.

JohnGaul
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Hi all

An awesome lightning show off the coast tonight - i just spent the last 2
hours at a lookout with Cg after Cg after Cg in a cell to my east moving
north about 20-30k's off the coast.  Although it wasn't all that frequent
(every 30 seconds or so most of the time) the storm was extremely high based
and there was no low cloud obscuring the Cg's!

11:15pm and still plenty of lightning to the NE and becoming more frequent
to the E(ish) and SE


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Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:39:38 +1000
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Hi Don.
I obtained this information from the official Australian Monthly Weather
Report and Meteorological Abstract of August 1912, Vol 3, no 8. The exact
wording is ...'29th-Heavy falls of snow on highlands of Victoria and New
South Wales. Slight snowfall in Sydney, first in 75 years, and snowflakes in
Melbourne'.Your report on the max and min on that day are correct i.e. low
of 46.8f and a high of 54.8f. The max in Melbourne on this day was about 11c
and the min was about 3c with 'a few flakes of snow around 3.30pm on this
day.regards Clyve Herbert.
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> Clyve...
> Where did you get that information. The 29 August 1912 in Sydney had a
> temp range of 8.2 to 12.7. Winds were SW and the weather description was
> afternoon shower about. Sydney had no rain to 9 am on 29th and 1 mm to
> 30th... so I believe it was just another snow myth of which there are
> many. No BoM report for the time indicates anything.
> Cheers,
> Don W
>
> clyve herbert wrote:
>
> > Hi all and Blair.
> > I have come across a brief report in the monthly weather report BOM, in
> > respect to a brief snowfall in Sydney on 29th of August 1912. snow was
also
> > reported over a wide area of southeast Australia including a few flakes
in
> > Melbourne. The snowfall in Sydney is officially reported by the BOM as
the
> > first in 75 years of record. Does anybody have any further data on this
> > event. Regards Clyve Herbert.
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Subject: aus-wx: Harrison Supercell Report
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Hi,

I've finally finisihed getting my last worthy storm chase report done, the
Harrisson supercell in Nebraska, 20th June 2001.

http://reef.atmos.colostate.edu/lyle/chases/06-30-01/index.html

Many thanks to my chase partners and Wes for data during the chase.

Cheers, Lyle

p.s. will have some more 'road trips' up soon. Just got back from mountain
biking in Wyoming - Awesome place, awesome riding, and an unexpected meteor
shower for fireworks!

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: BNE - Has it been a cold winter? - Blair?
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> 
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> This might be a question that Blair can answer, if he has a spare thirty
> minutes.  
> 
> In the last week or so, I have heard a number of people pronounce; "We
> have not had a cold winter in Brisbane this year".  I have let these
> remarks slide without comment, but it now has me wondering.  What type
> of winter has Brisbane had?  Is a "running average" of temperatures
> available on the BoM site?
> 

No, but I've had a look at it. The mean max for winter so far for
Brisbane Airport is 21.9. This would rank equal fourth in 53 years
of record. Climatologically, one would expect the mean to edge up
a bit in the last 18 days of winter, so the mean max may come in
close to the record of 22.1, set in 1993. (An average of around 23
for the rest of the month would be needed for this).

The mean minimum is running at 9.6, which is actually a little below
normal. 

The record seasonal mean (combined max and min) is 17.0 in 1969
(22.0 max, 12.0 min). 2001, currently on 15.7, is nowhere near this.

Blair
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: heat and humidity
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> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
> hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
> humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
> storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of Perth
> normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
> 33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
> temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
> 

Following on from a few comments in this thread, I'm currently 
working on a climatology for maximum/minimum dewpoint for Australia
(as an input to our quality control procedures). It will take a 
while to do this (I'm working through stations alphabetically and
I'm only up to Aireys Inlet!), but I'll keep you posted. As with most
things, there will, undoubtedly, be some dodgy data to filter
(dewpoint is particularly prone to data quality problems, as wet-bulb
thermometers have a nasty habit of going dry - something to bear
in mind the next time you see Yarram or Coldstream with a DP in
the 30's).

There has already been work done on maximum persisting dewpoint,
which isn't quite the same thing as maximum spot dewpoint (the
requirements are 24+ hours persistence and no rainfall in that
time). It's an important input variable into estimates of Probable
Maximum Precipitation (PMP), so the hydrologists are interesting in
it.

Blair
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't claim to be a statistical observer, but I 
thought that this winter appears to have been dominated by overly strong high 
pressure systems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Perhaps this explains the apparent block in genuine 
cold outbreaks over&nbsp;SE QLD and the allegedly warm winter we have had in 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What happened to the Ekka westerlies ? Notice how 
no one (ie - media) comments when they don't appear to arrive, but they make 
such a big song and dance about them when they do.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi Blair,

Just wondering about how this winter in Sydney compares to others in the 
past. We have hardly had frosts this year compared to other years but I 
suppose it depends on how high the minimums were overall - cloudy nights.

We have had many days that were mild though nothing exceptional.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On NBN News tonight there was an interesting piece 
about scientists studying lightning.&nbsp; They harvest storm clouds and then 
get the lightning to earth by sending up small rockets with wire to study how 
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Hi Carolyn,<br><br>
Yes this was the case. It has been on a documentary before. I don't know
how and why it got on the news but anyway. I mean I don't know why they
suddenly got interested in it.<br><br>
What the scientists are studying is the effects of lightning and how they
can better design underground cables to not be affect by
lightning.<br><br>
Can lightning strike the same place more than once?&nbsp; Hmmmm....... I
think chasers with videos can answer that one.<br><br>
Jimmy Deguara<br><br>
At 07:01 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>On NBN
News tonight there was an interesting piece about scientists studying
lightning.&nbsp; They harvest storm clouds and then get the lightning to
earth by sending up small rockets with wire to study how best to protect
power lines and other items from strikes.&nbsp; </font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Carolyn</font></blockquote>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I've seen similar documentaries and it does look 
quite awesome as they launch the rockets at a critical time into the storm cloud 
and the resulting electricity from the storm travels to ground via the "rockets" 
trailing wire.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On NBN News tonight there was an interesting 
  piece about scientists studying lightning.&nbsp; They harvest storm clouds and 
  then get the lightning to earth by sending up small rockets with wire to study 
  how best to protect power lines and other items from strikes.&nbsp; 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jimmy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>they actually showed a slowed down version of one 
strike and it showed that it was actually 4!!&nbsp; It was very intereesting in 
the fact that by viewing that short footage, the power surges for each "hit" was 
different.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Carolyn,<BR><BR>Yes this was the case. It has been on a 
  documentary before. I don't know how and why it got on the news but anyway. I 
  mean I don't know why they suddenly got interested in it.<BR><BR>What the 
  scientists are studying is the effects of lightning and how they can better 
  design underground cables to not be affect by lightning.<BR><BR>Can lightning 
  strike the same place more than once?&nbsp; Hmmmm....... I think chasers with 
  videos can answer that one.<BR><BR>Jimmy Deguara<BR><BR>At 07:01 PM 8/14/01 
  +1000, you wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite type="cite"><FONT face=arial size=2>On NBN News 
    tonight there was an interesting piece about scientists studying 
    lightning.&nbsp; They harvest storm clouds and then get the lightning to 
    earth by sending up small rockets with wire to study how best to protect 
    power lines and other items from strikes.&nbsp; </FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT 
    face=arial size=2>Carolyn</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><X-SIGSEP>
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  Sydney<BR>NSW Australia<BR><BR>e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au<BR><BR>Web Page 
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  href="http://www.australiasevereweather.com/" 
  eudora="autourl">http://www.australiasevereweather.com<BR><BR></A>President of 
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I've sat back reading and trying to take it all in but can't quite grab some
things so it's time to annoy everyone and start asking questions. I sort of
understand that a thickness of anywhere round 540 and below means some
pretty rough weather on the way, as I have seen may happen in my part of the
world this weekend. Great time for both my girls to be having their parties
:-((
By my observations around my area we may have somewhere around 525 on
Saturday. Someone mentioned several days ago (and my apologies to who it
was) that we may have lots of snow and very cold/wet conditions. Does a 525
mean this?
Anyone care to explain this in "bloke on the street" terms for me and anyone
else who is trying to take some of this stuff in. Thanks all in advance.
My observations from nature are that it is un-seasonally warm. Fruit trees
are blossoming early. Canola crops are starting to flower here. Sheep have
lambed earlier than normal ( I think) and (for Clyve), I can't ever remember
the frogs croaking in the middle of August!!!
Any thoughts anyone.
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I would like to add my congratulations to those who were involved in the 
organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.  All I can say is 
that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation was incredibly 
professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each year & the 
enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it increases as time passes.

Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to catch up with those 
from other states face to face!!!!

***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented it & 
those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!

Jane

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Hi all,

I've been fortunate enough to experience two thunderdays in a row here
(rare in August...), with two days of weak storms along the ranges
(today was by far the better day, litterally hundreds of little Cbs). 
Some lightning was also visible to the south from Gatton last night too.

Might do a report and some captures on the weekend...will see how I go
for time.  It'd be more of a picture collage than anything else!

AC
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Evening all,

Pics of today's stormchase from Cronulla to Stanwell Park will be up later - 
unfortunately, although I saw a waterspout (brief) & a couple of funnels I 
don't think the resolution of the images is going to bring it 
up.........<grovel> can anyone get BoM cross-sections etc of this between 
9am & 1pm today????? (it was the cell off Cronulla - Waterfall) I'd really 
appreciate radar, satpix & anything else that anyone may have - hey Ben, is 
there one of those amazing 1km pics of the eastern seaboard available from 
this morning?) </grovel>

Here's one - just to give you an idea of what I was seeing from Cronulla
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02763.JPG

and one later on from the other side at Stanwell Park
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02806.JPG

Jane


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Hi all,
       The magpies r already swooping here in Broadford, and the Claret
Ashes r already sprouting new leaves (they r deciduous)
Cheers Peter

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I've sat back reading and trying to take it all in but can't quite grab some
things so it's time to annoy everyone and start asking questions. I sort of
understand that a thickness of anywhere round 540 and below means some
pretty rough weather on the way, as I have seen may happen in my part of the
world this weekend. Great time for both my girls to be having their parties
:-((
By my observations around my area we may have somewhere around 525 on
Saturday. Someone mentioned several days ago (and my apologies to who it
was) that we may have lots of snow and very cold/wet conditions. Does a 525
mean this?
Anyone care to explain this in "bloke on the street" terms for me and anyone
else who is trying to take some of this stuff in. Thanks all in advance.
My observations from nature are that it is un-seasonally warm. Fruit trees
are blossoming early. Canola crops are starting to flower here. Sheep have
lambed earlier than normal ( I think) and (for Clyve), I can't ever remember
the frogs croaking in the middle of August!!!
Any thoughts anyone.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)


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>On NBN News tonight there was an interesting piece about scientists
studying lightning.  >They harvest storm clouds and then get the lightning
to earth by sending up small rockets >with wire to study how best to
protect power lines and other items from strikes.  

>they actually showed a slowed down version of one strike and it showed
that it was actually >4!!  It was very intereesting in the fact that by
viewing that short footage, the power >surges for each "hit" was different.
   
>Carolyn

The same news item was shown here in NZ on TV3 news tonight as well.
It's a shame I wasn't aware of it as I would of recorded it for the archives.

JohnGaul
NZ Thunderstorm Soc.

By the way the cold wintry 'snap' has eased over the eastern South Island
as the intense high has dug in way down south moving the low that formed
off the Marlborough coast a bit further east. Lots of good snow falls
around. We got hail here in Canterbury today but unfortunately no thunder
reports to hand.

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> ***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented it &
> those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!

Yeah sorry about that... it was a freak gust of wind !!!!!! :-)

Great work by all at the AGM and associated activities.

I have some video captures of the funnel associated with the waterspouts off
Ulladulla yesterday.. will put them up in the next couple of days. (likely
friday)

Matt Smith

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brief article on NSSL site noting their involvement in the Olympic world 
weather research program

http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/briefings/vol3_no4/sydney.html

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HI all. 

IDN1006104
SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
Tonight
Fine. 

Wednesday
Fine. Isolated frost and fog patches. Cool to mild day. Light to
 moderate northeast to northwest winds. 

Thursday 
Cloud increasing with some patchy late rain. Mild to warm with fresh to 
strong northwest winds tending colder west to southwesterly overnight. 
Showers after the change falling as snow on the Snowy Mountains down to 
1000 metres. 

Friday   
Showers. Cool to cold. Fresh to strong southwest winds. Showers falling
as snow down to 1000 metres.

Saturday 
Isolated showers. Possible snowfalls on higher ground. Cool to cold day.
Moderate to fresh west to southwest winds.
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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Hi Jimmy,

A lot of research into lightining uses this technique, i know of another guy
trying to use 'lightning rockets' to create some 4th order carbon molecule.
Hasn't done it but hypothesises that it would be really strong etc etc.

cheers ,lyle


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> Hi Carolyn,
>
> Yes this was the case. It has been on a documentary before. I don't know
> how and why it got on the news but anyway. I mean I don't know why they
> suddenly got interested in it.
>
> What the scientists are studying is the effects of lightning and how they
> can better design underground cables to not be affect by lightning.
>
> Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I think
> chasers with videos can answer that one.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 07:01 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >On NBN News tonight there was an interesting piece about scientists
> >studying lightning.  They harvest storm clouds and then get the lightning
> >to earth by sending up small rockets with wire to study how best to
> >protect power lines and other items from strikes.
> >
> >Carolyn
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com
>
> President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Hi Bussie,

Thickness discussions have been flying around a lot lately. The concept is
realtivly simple but there are many complications which i won't go into for
the bloke on the street;

Take two pressure surfaces, say the surface, 1013mb and the 500mb surface.
The distance between these surfaces is the 'thickness' of that slab of air -
that's all it is. So a 540dm thickness would translate to the 500mb pressure
surface being 5400m off the ground, or more accuratly the 1013mb surface.
When you see thickness values on charts, they are always from the ground to
a particular pressure surface, and the surface pressure may vary which is
why i gave some mean value for the surface as 1013mb but for operational
forecasting, this would vary accordingly.

Now the more interesting bit. By definition, the mass of atmosphere between
two pressure surfaces will be the same, no matter where you are in the
world. This is why meteorologists use pressure as it breaks the atmosphere
up into mass blocks, where as using physical height would be constant
confusion. Now, you know that if you have a balloon and heat it up, the
balloon expands, and visa-versa if it cools. The same thing goes in the
atmosphere but imagine that the balloon is just a pressure surface. So if
you have two pressure surfaces and heat the air up in between them, the air
expands and the physical height of the pressure surface will also increase
for the increase in the volume of air. If the air cools, then the
thickness/height will drop. Hence, when cold air comes over, the thickness
values are small.

It's not that these bring bad weather, just that the only time sub 540dm
thickness air comes over SE Aus is when a cold front drags it up, which
means bad weather. But the nicest days are usually in winter when the air is
dry, the wind calm and visability is unlimited - no convection to mess
things up and usually, this will have a pretty low thickness. Infact, when i
used to live in Vic, we would goto Lake Eildon to wakeboard in mid winter.
It would be bloody cold but the air is so calm that the whole lake would be
a mirror and all to ourselves.

Hope that helps.

Cheers, Lyle

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> I've sat back reading and trying to take it all in but can't quite grab
some
> things so it's time to annoy everyone and start asking questions. I sort
of
> understand that a thickness of anywhere round 540 and below means some
> pretty rough weather on the way, as I have seen may happen in my part of
the
> world this weekend. Great time for both my girls to be having their
parties
> :-((
> By my observations around my area we may have somewhere around 525 on
> Saturday. Someone mentioned several days ago (and my apologies to who it
> was) that we may have lots of snow and very cold/wet conditions. Does a
525
> mean this?
> Anyone care to explain this in "bloke on the street" terms for me and
anyone
> else who is trying to take some of this stuff in. Thanks all in advance.
> My observations from nature are that it is un-seasonally warm. Fruit trees
> are blossoming early. Canola crops are starting to flower here. Sheep have
> lambed earlier than normal ( I think) and (for Clyve), I can't ever
remember
> the frogs croaking in the middle of August!!!
> Any thoughts anyone.
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>A.C.T. FORECAST:&nbsp;&nbsp; For 
tonight and Wednesday<BR>Fine and cool to cold overnight with the chance of 
frost and fog patches<BR>developing during the morning, then fine and mainly 
sunny again. Winds should be<BR>light to moderate northeast to 
northwesterly.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>Forecast Temperatures:<BR>Wednesday Min 
Tonight:&nbsp; 0&nbsp; Max:&nbsp; 19 UV Index:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3 [high] 
Headline :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fine&nbsp; Probability of rain:&nbsp; 
5%&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Fire Danger Rating:&nbsp; NA&nbsp; Winds on Canberra 
lakes:&nbsp; Northeast to northwest at 10 to 20 km/h.&nbsp; 
</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>Thursday :&nbsp; Increasing cloud, 
windy <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Min:&nbsp; 2&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max:&nbsp; 18 </STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>Friday&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp; Showers, 
windy&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Min:&nbsp; 6&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max:&nbsp; 11 </STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>Saturday :&nbsp; Mainly 
fine&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Min:&nbsp; 4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Max:&nbsp; 11 </STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM><STRONG>Trend for&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Sunday&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Monday&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Tuesday&nbsp; :<BR>Mainly fine Sunday, another change on Monday, fine 
Tuesday</STRONG></EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>this seems to be a under-estimated forecast, i will be 
keeping an eye on the updates.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>For the record i dont think it will get above 11 the whole 
weekend thru to tuesday, and if </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>anything, Friday and Saturday will be below 10 (or even 8) 
for most of the day. Sunday maybe slightly *warmer* but still not reaching 
11.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Simon Angell, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Canberra ACT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>current temp 2.3*c</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#ff0000><STRONG>p.s, for the record the coldest day 
this year was around 5*c, from the first cold snap of the season (when mt Baw 
Baw faired better in the snow stakes). On that day the BoM forcasted a max temp 
of 12*c,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt; HI all. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; IDN1006104<BR>&gt; SOUTHERN 
TABLELANDS<BR>&gt; Tonight<BR>&gt; Fine. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Wednesday<BR>&gt; 
Fine. Isolated frost and fog patches. Cool to mild day. Light to<BR>&gt; 
&nbsp;moderate northeast to northwest winds. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Thursday <BR>&gt; 
Cloud increasing with some patchy late rain. Mild to warm with fresh to <BR>&gt; 
strong northwest winds tending colder west to southwesterly overnight. <BR>&gt; 
Showers after the change falling as snow on the Snowy Mountains down to <BR>&gt; 
1000 metres. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Friday&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Showers. Cool to 
cold. Fresh to strong southwest winds. Showers falling<BR>&gt; as snow down to 
1000 metres.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Saturday <BR>&gt; Isolated showers. Possible 
snowfalls on higher ground. Cool to cold day.<BR>&gt; Moderate to fresh west to 
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Amazing view of the city up here on the 13th floor in St leonards. The
water vapour formed by the harbour looks like it starts from the head and
goes all the way up the paramatta river, having taking two photos and will
scan at the weekend.  So what's causing the fog?? Is it the drop in the air
temperature compared to the water temperature or something to do relative
humidity??

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Hello all!

On Sunday I'll arrive in Adelaide, and I hope the Australian stormy weather 
will be on my side for the next few months!
My boyfriend and I will perhaps go down the Great Ocean Road to Melbourne, 
if time permits. I've never done it before and have heard it's an amazing 
stretch. I've been in Melbourne though, it's so different from Adelaide!
If we don't do that, I'll try to make it to Darwin -for the sole purpose of 
chasing! (ok, and a little bit sight-seeing too...)

And of course, I'll bring my SLR on the plane... Watching storms at night, 
ABOVE the storm, is a freaky experience! Well, at least I think so... :-)

I'd better continue packing.

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Matthew Smith wrote:
<snip>

> Yeah sorry about that... it was a freak gust of wind !!!!!! :-)

We can blame Jimmy for that.

AC

 
> Great work by all at the AGM and associated activities.
> 
> I have some video captures of the funnel associated with the waterspouts off
> Ulladulla yesterday.. will put them up in the next couple of days. (likely
> friday)
> 
> Matt Smith
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Hi all,

I have set up a webcam from my home office, you can get to it from this page:
http://australiasevereweather.com/links/

The camera will normally face NW to N towards the Border Ranges and 
Nightcap Range, but I will no doubt point it elsewhere if weather action is 
around.

It will only be updated when I'm online (which is a lot of the time)

A proper self updating page will be established soon, but at the moment new 
images are uploaded every 3 mins (FTP permitting)

regards, Michael


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I hate to disapoint but I think the prospect of any snow over the
weekend below 1000m has disappeared - AGAIN!

Andrew.


David Carroll wrote:
> 
> HI all.
> 
> IDN1006104
> SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
> Tonight
> Fine.
> 
> Wednesday
> Fine. Isolated frost and fog patches. Cool to mild day. Light to
>  moderate northeast to northwest winds.
> 
> Thursday
> Cloud increasing with some patchy late rain. Mild to warm with fresh to
> strong northwest winds tending colder west to southwesterly overnight.
> Showers after the change falling as snow on the Snowy Mountains down to
> 1000 metres.
> 
> Friday
> Showers. Cool to cold. Fresh to strong southwest winds. Showers falling
> as snow down to 1000 metres.
> 
> Saturday
> Isolated showers. Possible snowfalls on higher ground. Cool to cold day.
> Moderate to fresh west to southwest winds.
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Apologies if you are trying to get to the MSC website - they are having 
problems which is why some of you keep getting that horrible orange page - 
they have assured me that they will have it fixed (permanently) by today 
sometime.

Jane

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ASWA - Victoria
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Hi all,

I have set up a webcam from my home office, you can get to it from this 
page:
http://australiasevereweather.com/links/

The camera will normally face NW to N towards the Border Ranges and
Nightcap Range, but I will no doubt point it elsewhere if weather action is
around.

It will only be updated when I'm online (which is a lot of the time)

A proper self updating page will be established soon, but at the moment new
images are uploaded every 3 mins (FTP permitting)

regards, Michael


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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Cold air paddock.
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:33:33 +1000
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Hi all snow bunnies.
Apart from the impressive and huge cloud band across southern Aus, a rather
interesting paddock of cold air has moved from the 'black abyss' into the
southwest Aus Bight, this area of cold air has some possibilities, although
at the moment seems to be a little too far south but worth keeping a close
look at. Judging by the large scale CB development in that area I wouldn't
be surprised if sea surface temps over that region are close to
freezing.regards Clyve Herbert.

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That small Cb was very persistent from around 8am, until almost midday.

Sorry I could not make it to the AGM I was ( and still are ) as sick as a
dog. Anything that can turn me off food for 4 days, and have me in bed
before 9pm is nasty.

Michael


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> Evening all,
>
> Pics of today's stormchase from Cronulla to Stanwell Park will be up
later -
> unfortunately, although I saw a waterspout (brief) & a couple of funnels I
> don't think the resolution of the images is going to bring it
> up.........<grovel> can anyone get BoM cross-sections etc of this between
> 9am & 1pm today????? (it was the cell off Cronulla - Waterfall) I'd really
> appreciate radar, satpix & anything else that anyone may have - hey Ben,
is
> there one of those amazing 1km pics of the eastern seaboard available from
> this morning?) </grovel>
>
> Here's one - just to give you an idea of what I was seeing from Cronulla
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02763.JPG
>
> and one later on from the other side at Stanwell Park
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02806.JPG
>
> Jane
>
>
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Afternoon all,

I came across some movies of the spouts off the south coast of NSW (13/8) on 
the MUM portal (Milton - Ulladulla - Mollymook for those who were 
wondering).
The link is to the archive page & the movies are linked from that
http://www.mum.com.au/weathercam_arc.html

Jane

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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:04:44 +0800
From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely 
does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The 
one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other 
tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently 
than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our 
building which are initially silent.

The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person 
twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North 
and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by 
lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work 
bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as 
an appropriate target for that third stroke!

Phil
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>   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
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> 
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From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
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Hey all,

Well, after a excellent weekend, in which I would like to
thank those involved in organising it, I have finally put up
the images off my digital camera. They can all be found at:

http://www.geocities.com/pauly78au/aswaagm01/

Once again, thanks to all those involved, and will see you
all again at next years AGM.

PaulY

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Yes Jane,

I am mourning the loss of my frisby :)

Jimmy Deguara


At 10:15 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
>I would like to add my congratulations to those who were involved in the 
>organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.  All I can say is 
>that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation was incredibly 
>professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each year & the 
>enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it increases as time passes.
>
>Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to catch up with 
>those from other states face to face!!!!
>
>***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented it & 
>those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!
>
>Jane
>
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>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
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From: "dann weatherhead" <weatherhead at ozemail.com.au>
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Was it an ASWA approved Frisbee?

dann
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> Yes Jane,
>
> I am mourning the loss of my frisby :)
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> At 10:15 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >I would like to add my congratulations to those who were involved in the
> >organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.  All I can say is
> >that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation was incredibly
> >professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each year & the
> >enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it increases as time
passes.
> >
> >Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to catch up with
> >those from other states face to face!!!!
> >
> >***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented it &
> >those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!
> >
> >Jane
> >
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
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> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
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Hi Adele,

How long are you staying in Australia? Darwin will not fire in terms of 
storms until October  and during late November and early December, you are 
invited to join in the TDU 2001 - an organised chase expedition undertaken 
by storm chasers around SE Queensland and N New South Wales. It is a very 
exciting time.

Have a good trip to Australia. Make sure you team up with the ASWA members.

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:16 PM 8/14/01 +0000, you wrote:
>Hello all!
>
>On Sunday I'll arrive in Adelaide, and I hope the Australian stormy 
>weather will be on my side for the next few months!
>My boyfriend and I will perhaps go down the Great Ocean Road to Melbourne, 
>if time permits. I've never done it before and have heard it's an amazing 
>stretch. I've been in Melbourne though, it's so different from Adelaide!
>If we don't do that, I'll try to make it to Darwin -for the sole purpose 
>of chasing! (ok, and a little bit sight-seeing too...)
>
>And of course, I'll bring my SLR on the plane... Watching storms at night, 
>ABOVE the storm, is a freaky experience! Well, at least I think so... :-)
>
>I'd better continue packing.
>
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It was an "official" ASWA frisbee. That's how we checked the
soundings at ground level...lol

PaulY

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Was it an ASWA approved Frisbee?

dann
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> Yes Jane,
>
> I am mourning the loss of my frisby :)
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> At 10:15 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >I would like to add my congratulations to those who were
involved in the
> >organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.
All I can say is
> >that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation
was incredibly
> >professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each
year & the
> >enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it
increases as time
passes.
> >
> >Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to
catch up with
> >those from other states face to face!!!!
> >
> >***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who
presented it &
> >those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!
> >
> >Jane
> >
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
> >Melbourne Storm Chasers
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> >ASWA - Victoria
> >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >--------------------------------
> >
> >
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>
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Re: the prior approval for use at an approved ASWA function....


...................... it was user friendly, but I'm not sure about the
aerodynamics - I think the red paint on it was a contributing factor to
its demise as it had a tendency to wobble & the extra weight of the
paint on one side would have caused that....I move that we don't approve
this model for next year's AGM until they sort out the 'weighting' of
the paint that they use.!!

Jane


Was it an ASWA approved Frisbee?

dann

>
>
> > Yes Jane,
> >
> > I am mourning the loss of my frisby :)
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >
> > At 10:15 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
> > >I would like to add my congratulations to those who were involved
in the
> > >organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.  All I can
say is
> > >that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation was
incredibly
> > >professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each year & the
> > >enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it increases as time
> passes.
> > >
> > >Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to catch up
with
> > >those from other states face to face!!!!
> > >
> > >***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented
it &
> > >those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!
> > >
> > >Jane
> > >
> > >--------------------------------
> > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > >cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > >Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> > >
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> > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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> >
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It got sucked into a stealth tornado - you all missed it !


dann weatherhead wrote:
> 
> Was it an ASWA approved Frisbee?
> 
> dann
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Talk About Being Blown Away!
> 
> > Yes Jane,
> >
> > I am mourning the loss of my frisby :)
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >
> > At 10:15 PM 8/14/01 +1000, you wrote:
> > >I would like to add my congratulations to those who were involved in the
> > >organisation of all of the activities over the weekend.  All I can say is
> > >that the entire weekend was fabulous & the presentation was incredibly
> > >professional.  Great to see more faces & new faces each year & the
> > >enthusiasm remains undiminished - if anything, it increases as time
> passes.
> > >
> > >Wouldn't miss this weekend for the world - it's great to catch up with
> > >those from other states face to face!!!!
> > >
> > >***CONGRATULATIONS*** to those who created it & those who presented it &
> > >those who threw the frisbee into the pond!!
> > >
> > >Jane
> > >
> > >--------------------------------
> > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > >cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > >Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com
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> >
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> >
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Hi Jimmy,

I'll stay in Australia until 18.November, but I'll try to find out if it's 
possible to extend my visitor's visa. (it only lasts for three months) And 
while I'm visiting, I'll start the application for a permanent recidency... 
Yep, I'm migrating!

When is TDU 2001 held, and do I have to be a member of ASWA to join? But 
that's ok, because I've decided to join ASWA anyway when I come! :-)

Adele


>From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
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>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:40:27 +1000
>
>Hi Adele,
>
>How long are you staying in Australia? Darwin will not fire in terms of
>storms until October  and during late November and early December, you are
>invited to join in the TDU 2001 - an organised chase expedition undertaken
>by storm chasers around SE Queensland and N New South Wales. It is a very
>exciting time.
>
>Have a good trip to Australia. Make sure you team up with the ASWA members.
>
>Jimmy Deguara


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&lt;snip&gt;(<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Hi 
Adele,).......</FONT>&nbsp;<STRONG>you are&nbsp;<BR> invited to join in the TDU 
2001 - an organised chase expedition undertaken&nbsp;<BR> by storm chasers 
around SE Queensland and N New South Wales. It is a very&nbsp;<BR> exciting 
time</STRONG>.&lt;/snip&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Jimmy, and All</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am interested in coming along on TDU 2001, and 
wondering if any of you will be able to accomodate me on the trip. I will need 
some info first though.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. When excactly is it, and when do you plan on 
going. (if your only chasing part of the time)?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2. How much will it cost 
approximately?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3. What sort of equipment, if any, should i 
bring?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can contact me via <A 
href="mailto:simon at winnet.com.au">simon at winnet.com.au</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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hi Adele,
you will love the great ocean road!!having been there many times myself over 
the years.Anyway here is just a sample of what you can expect to see 
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/Vic.west_coast.htm
you may also see some other photos from that region in other galleries on my 
site at http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils
enjoy your trip  :)

cya  Tony Middleton
Anvil Industries
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils



>From: "adele jaunn" <ajaunn at hotmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Norway - Australia
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:13:25
>
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>I'll stay in Australia until 18.November, but I'll try to find out if it's
>possible to extend my visitor's visa. (it only lasts for three months) And
>while I'm visiting, I'll start the application for a permanent recidency...
>Yep, I'm migrating!
>
>When is TDU 2001 held, and do I have to be a member of ASWA to join? But
>that's ok, because I've decided to join ASWA anyway when I come! :-)
>
>Adele
>
>
>>From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Norway - Australia
>>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:40:27 +1000
>>
>>Hi Adele,
>>
>>How long are you staying in Australia? Darwin will not fire in terms of
>>storms until October  and during late November and early December, you are
>>invited to join in the TDU 2001 - an organised chase expedition undertaken
>>by storm chasers around SE Queensland and N New South Wales. It is a very
>>exciting time.
>>
>>Have a good trip to Australia. Make sure you team up with the ASWA 
>>members.
>>
>>Jimmy Deguara
>
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Hi all,<br><br>
TDU 2001 is not an ASWA official storm chase so please take note of that.
It is just a time when chasers decide to chase the so-called most ideal
time for severe storms in that area of Australia. People form groups of
their own or tag along with other chasers and share costs with them. Now
the costs are up to those individuals.<br><br>
Now the important thing to note is that we have found that chasing in a
large group is extremely difficult so people have broken into smaller
groups of a few cars. Of course, you may meet up some places and at some
stage we normally hold a BBQ and watch each other's video.<br><br>
So in order to be prepared to go along on the TDU 2001:<br><br>
- start thinking of leave requirements... people chase how long they want
to or can afford or whatever but the usual times are&nbsp; last two weeks
of November and first week in December but some chase after or before of
course.<br><br>
- allow say $100 a day or more to give some idea of costs but it depends
on how fussy an individual is on accommodation and food for
instance<br><br>
- try and team up with an individual that you think you can get along
with... trust me long days on the road, type of music played,
frustrations, sharing costs, sharing driving, and simply getting along
all play a part in testing out people's patience on TDU's. People that
have chased in the past don't stuff around and don't want to be held back
by people who don't listen to instructions. If you want flexibility, have
or hire your own car.<br><br>
-Basically, you are there to have a good time and meet up with other
chasers. Also note that you chase because you want to chase not because
someone wanted you to chase. I am simply giving the information
required.<br><br>
I hope this gives some insight as to what is involved and the costs. I
would suggest team up with someone - preferably in your state as it makes
it easier. It would be an advantage to chase a few days chases before you
do 3 weeks to see if you are compatible chasers. If you are not
compatible, don;t bother chasing the TDU 2001 with that person.<br><br>
Cheers. I am getting goose bumps even thinking of the chase - not too
long to go....<br><br>
Jimmy Deguara<br><br>
At 08:10 PM 8/15/01 +1000, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>&lt;snip&gt;(</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times">Hi
Adele,).......</font><font face="arial" size=2> <b>you are <br>
invited to join in the TDU 2001 - an organised chase expedition
undertaken <br>
by storm chasers around SE Queensland and N New South Wales. It is a very
<br>
exciting time</b>.&lt;/snip&gt;</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Hi Jimmy, and All</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>I am interested in coming along on TDU 2001,
and wondering if any of you will be able to accomodate me on the trip. I
will need some info first though.</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>1. When excactly is it, and when do you plan on
going. (if your only chasing part of the time)?</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>2. How much will it cost
approximately?</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>3. What sort of equipment, if any, should i
bring?</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>You can contact me via
<a href="mailto:simon at winnet.com.au">simon at winnet.com.au</a></font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Cheers</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Simon Angell</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Canberra ACT</font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>&nbsp;<br>
</blockquote>
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Jimmy Deguara<br>
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher<br><br>
from <br>
Schofields, Sydney<br>
NSW Australia<br><br>
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au<br><br>
Web Page with Michael Bath<br><br>
Australian Severe Weather Home Page<br>
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From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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Hi all,

Well - it's nearly Spring, and the hot topic for discussion is the
infamous "Thunder Downunder" chase that everyone who has gone on has
loved.  I thought that I might give some suggestions and comments about
TDU, for those who have never gone on a longterm (2week or so) storm
chase.  This is not to convince people to chase on TDU, nor to deter
them.  Just what you might expect to happen, so that there are no
surprises.

Typically, many people organise their own little groups - last year this
worked well with the smaller groups meeting periodically and sharing
video/stories/catching up in the town.  A large convoy of cars has in
the past, become fairly cumbersome to navigate with - particularly in
the more populated areas when a 8 car convoy could be divided two or
three times by other cars not a part of the convoy.

For some it is very easy to organise groups - I guess one thing that
many people don't realise is that a lot of people are very good friends,
and that this type of chase actually serves a dual purpose.  The first
to chase, the and the second to meet up with friends once again in
person (rather than emails/phone/IRC).  So one should not be surprised
to see people getting along very well in certain groups - basically
because of this reason!  But it does come to the stage where it's
important that everyone fits in - and perhaps where some people may find
it difficult because of a very different sequence of events that may
unfold to what they're used to.  (This will make sense soon hopefully!)

What I suggest for newcomers, is that they meet up with other
stormchasers who are likely to go chasing for a couple of weeks in the
end of Nov/early Dec.  Functions such as ASWA meetings would be a
fantastic way to meet other chasers, so that you get to know other
people and make it easier to find or organise a group that you'll be
comfortable with.  This is quite important...think about it, you're in
the car a lot of the time - when you spend so much time with another
person, in such close proximity - as Chuck Doswell says (and I agree),
it's like being married!  Only worse - because if you were married, you
could just walk into another room...but you can't do that in a car.  So
this means that you have to know and get along very well with your chase
partner, (perhaps one of the most important things to a happy "TDU" for
yourself).  Other things you need to do...you need to trust each other -
another huge factor!  If you're going with some one else who is a
driver, you want to be able to trust that the driver will not take
uneccessary risks, or leave you stranded (like in Thargomindah!) 
Likewise, the driver wants to be assured that the passenger will pay
their half of fuel, respect their car and rules in the car etc.  These
mightn't sound like much - but they do come into play, especially if
you're a newcomer and have never met many people before.

So if you've found a chase partner that you're comfortable with, and
that you'll get on well with (once you leave there's no turning back...)
then you have to make sure your group is similar.  You want to have a
group who have similar ideas/thoughts - a group that takes into account
everyones opinions of where to go.  The last thing you want to do is be
in a situation where one or two people make all the decisions and not
take into account what you're thinking.  Likewise, you don't want to be
in a position where everyone wants you to make the decision.  There is
no such thing as one person making a wrong decision when you're in a
group.  It's a GROUP decision, no one person should ever be blamed -
this is important!  You also have to be comfortable with the people in
your group...this will sound funny, but some people may have a problem
sleeping in the same room as other people of the same/opposite sex they
have no feelings to!  You should be willing to sleep on the floor every
3-4 nights by taking turns, sleep in the same room/close to other people
- there is very little privacy!  So just take note of this...as if you
like your privacy you might find that there is not much privacy - the
only privacy you'll get is the bathroom!

So this is a bit what it's like with other people...you basically live
in each others shoes, so choose your groups and partners wisely! 
Compatability is the key!

In regards to the process...I generally recommend two people per
car...that is the optimum number.  Three is far to squishy...the luxury
of having the backseat available to chuck camera gear/maps/rubbish on
almost becomes a neccessity.  Also a good place for an esky for drinks
and food!  One person can become expensive/dangerous - more so because
of the long hours in the car, it can become very tiring, and if you're
driving by yourself, there's no one there to gently nudge you on the
shoulder if you are becoming weary, nor take over driving duties if you
need to.  This is another point...if you drive a manual car, your chase
partner should be able to drive a manual, so that way you can share
driving.  I ADORE driving...but at 5000km/week, and not much sleep on
some days it becomes extremely tiring, and to have a driving break every
couple of days (at least) is superb.

Cost varies largely...I'm lucky that I have 10% discounts with Best
Western (a little bit of 'luxury' by TDU standards), and Big 4 caravan
parks (the norm) - it depends on how fussy you are with accomodation. 
Again, chase with a group of people who are going to want the same
accomodation.  I personally prefer cabins, they sleep quite a few
people, are self-contained, have cooking facilities and are much cheaper
than hotel rooms.  The catch is to supply your own linen and towels...a
group of us did this fine last year and saved about $3-$5 a day per
person (a fair bit over 25 days).

The general guideline I use is $20/day accomodation, $25/day fuel,
$25/day food and drink - and normally got change out of it.  Things that
we found useful last year were to buy your lunch in the morning (eg
sandwhiches), if you're going to be in an area away from a town at lunch
(great to have the convenience of eating when you want), and buying
slabs of coke and bottles of cordial (cheap way), and having a large
esky in one of the cars and using that to keep the drinks cold at a cost
of $2/day (ice).  Worked brilliantly!  Was great to always have a cold
drink there if you wanted it...especially when you're standing in the
middle of western QLD when it's 35C with DP's in the 20's...

Bring your own breakfast!  It's not worth the cost of buying it...but
buy lunch/dinner (you probably won't have enough room in your car with
two people and food for both).  BUT - make sure you bring SOME food,
sometimes you'll arrive in at a town  at  10pm and everything will be shut,
so having some noodles/pasta/baked beans or whatever will be very
handy.  And of course, cereal or toast for breakky (those little 6 pack
things you can eat out of the packet and pour milk into them <they're
waterproof...well milk proof).

I could keep on going with further advice...but really, the main thing
is that you meet the people you'll chase with PRIOR to chasing with them
and then make a decision, this will ensure happy chasing for you and the
other people who'll be chasing.
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
(07) 3390 4812
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From: "Ben Quinn" <benquinn at optushome.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning
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Hi Phil, all

I found this in the Guinness book of the records the other week:

" The only man to be struck 7 times was park ranger Roy C Sullivan the
"human lightning conductor" of Virginia, USA.  In his lightning encounters
from 1942 to 1977, Roy has had  his hair set alight, lost his big toe nail
and eyebrows, and suffered injuries to his arms, legs, chest and stomach.  "

I guess he's both the luckiest and unlukiest man in the world - the luckiest
because he survided 7 lightning strikes and the unlukiest because he was
actually struck 7 times!

I was also relayed this story from a farmer near Longreach in NW Qld a while
back - this guy was a member of the rural fire brigade and took the truck
home for whatever reason one day - on his way back to the station he drove
through a small thunderstorm and all of a sudden lightning struck VERY close
to his car on the side of the road and started a small grass fire! He
stopped and put it out, only to have the same thing happen several more
times along the way!  A month or so later, he was driving into town when
lightning struck a tree on the side of the road, sending a branch crashing
down onto his car, writing it off! A month or so later again he was driving
around his property, got out of the car, opened a metal gate, drove through,
closed it and got back into his car when all of a sudden there was a
brilliant white flash and lightning struck the gate he had just driven
through, welding the lock and chain onto the gate!

...he said he now looks forward to winter



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> Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently
> than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> building which are initially silent.
>
> The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North
> and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> an appropriate target for that third stroke!
>
> Phil
> <><
> International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
> <snip>
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
> >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
> > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> >
> >   Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:27:05 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
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I forgot one very important thing - you MUST have a Cb Radio!!! 
Absolute essential that every car has one...this is for safety (ie, you
know when everyone is going to stop), and much easier to talk (and much
more fun) about where to go and what to do, rather than stopping and
getting out of the car all the time.

Don't even think about taking a car in a group without a CB Radio!

AC
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>
> I found this in the Guinness book of the records the other week:
>
> " The only man to be struck 7 times was park ranger Roy C Sullivan the
> "human lightning conductor" of Virginia, USA.  In his lightning encounters
> from 1942 to 1977, Roy has had  his hair set alight, lost his big toe nail
> and eyebrows, and suffered injuries to his arms, legs, chest and stomach.
"
>
> I guess he's both the luckiest and unlukiest man in the world - the
luckiest
> because he survided 7 lightning strikes and the unlukiest because he was
> actually struck 7 times!

>
 And i think you'll find he ended up committing suicide.


dann

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<x-flowed>

> > Yeah sorry about that... it was a freak gust of wind !!!!!! :-)
>
>We can blame Jimmy for that.
>
>AC

Given the strength of that particular low level jet, I can tell you AC I was 
on the look out for shear funnels, possibly a brief spin up in the lake!

David

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Thermal trough.
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Hi all.
Impressive thermal trough (cold) at 500hpa extending from near Albany to
almost the Antarctic, and edging eastward.This large cold air field is one
of the best I have seen in the Australian region this year, lets hope it
will keep together, also a remarkable thermal contrast across the complex
troughs over the eastern Bight region should see the potential for strong
pressure falls west of Tasmania and south of Adelaide over the next 6 to 12
hours. regards Clyve H.

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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi

Rather curiously, I noted while in Sydney for the ASWA AGM that Red Cedars
in Sydney were already well established in new spring growth, which hasn't
started yet for my Red Cedars  here in Brisbane.

John.
>snip
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Hi all,
       The magpies r already swooping here in Broadford, and the Claret
Ashes r already sprouting new leaves (they r deciduous)
Cheers Peter

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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Hi Phil,

I know a couple other people who have been struck, one of my teachers in
high school had been struck twice on the same oval. I heard that if you ahve
been struck once before and survived, your chances of getting struck again
are far greater than someone who had never been struck before. Does anyone
know if this is true?

Thanks ,LYle


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> Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently
> than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> building which are initially silent.
>
> The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North
> and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> an appropriate target for that third stroke!
>
> Phil
> <><
> International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
> <snip>
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
> >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
> > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> >
> >   Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
>
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Hi all

Some impressive laminar cloud features in the mid levels at sunup this
morning, rapidly replaced by mamatus / virga. It's been very warm
overnight, hovering around 15-16 for most of the evening.   A real feeling
that something is brewing.  Naturally, and because of this, I'll be working
until 7pm this evening so will probably miss the arrival of the front!  Oh
well, hopefully sun up tomorrow should see some decent cold air coming on
shore....

Phil


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We have a low cruising down the west coast at the moment. We seem to be
getting the strongest winds. Both MAATSUYKER IS to the south and CAPE
GRIM to the north have less wind which is unusual. Looks like the rain
is set in for a while.

Chas
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TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
Issued at 0648 on Thursday the 16th of August 2001


CAPE SORELL
 WIND: N    36KT,
 RAIN
Wave rider, significant wave height:  3.0m
 Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  5.8m
 Period:  13s

CAPE GRIM
 WIND: NNW  28KT,
 RAIN

MAATSUYKER IS
 WIND: NNW  18KT,
 VISIBILITY 1000M, DRIZZLE



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From: David Jones <D.Jones at bom.gov.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne's warmth
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For those Melbournian like myself who woke up warm last night.. the graph
below shows exactly why
http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbtemp.html
Interestingly, the 850hPa temperature over Melbourne was around 13C, which
would translate to a mid to high 20s day temperature with full sun (concurs
with the 33C at Eucla yesterday). Quite amazingly, there was a significant
scrub fire last night in Traralgon (Gippsland), a place which should be
sodden this time of year.

BTW the latest batch of progs, while backing off a bit for tonight's front
(thickness values over Victoria bottoming near 530 - read snow to about
600m), are ramping up the follow-up sequence of fronts. It might be 10 weeks
late, but it looks like winter might be about to arrive in the SE.

Cheers,

David


                                                              
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This was from thredbo at 9.12 AM 
NNW 102km 55kn 120km 65kn
Somehow i think i wouldnt like to be skiing !!
sydney is going for 30 kn so we will see :) 

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<P>I know the (very) basics of what happened last night with regard to the warmth in Melbourne - but someone at work is telling me that "it can't heat up like that at night" - despite him feeling it. I knew what I wanted to tell him, but had a hard time explaining it.</P>
<P>Can anyone give me a decent (and yet fairly simple) explanation of how last night's wonderful warmth&nbsp;occured, that I can tell this guy and make him believe! :)</P>
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Well, looking through the ulladulla webcam images that I download at 5
min intervals, I came across this nice one showing two waterspouts:

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_13/ne-Aug13-1050.jpg

This was the only frame they appeared in.  Since I haven't seen the movies
mentioned below, I nearly fell off my seat when I saw this image.


On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Jane ONeill wrote:

> Afternoon all,
> 
> I came across some movies of the spouts off the south coast of NSW (13/8) on 
> the MUM portal (Milton - Ulladulla - Mollymook for those who were 
> wondering).
> The link is to the archive page & the movies are linked from that
> http://www.mum.com.au/weathercam_arc.html
> 

Cheers

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One of my fellow workers lived in Bangkok for 5 years with her husband. They
lived near the top floor of a large compartment building and she says the
number of times the building was hit was incredible. She said sometimes you
could even smell the ozone afterwards.

Michael



> Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently
> than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> building which are initially silent.
>
> The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North
> and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> an appropriate target for that third stroke!
>
> Phil
> <><
> International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
> <snip>
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
> >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
> > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> >
> >   Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
>
>
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From: Blair Trewin <blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>
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> 
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Was talking to some of our folks in Perth recently comparing hottest of the
> hot - and one day was mentioned with temp 44C and 22C DP.  Very unusually
> humid for Perth!  But they have had a number of very hot humid days with
> storms in recent summers, which contrasts with my own recollections of Perth
> normally being very dry when it is really hot.  But for Brisbane, temps
> 33..34C and DP's in low 20's not uncommon in Jan/Feb at all, and Darwin has
> temps like this for half the year (with DP's in mid 20's).
> 
> John.

As an aside, it's been reported on another list I'm on that Kuwait
reported 44/30 earlier this week. (I'd expect such events to be 
relatively common in the vicinity of the Persian Gulf, a rather
shallow and enclosed body of water that has SST's approaching 35
locally in summer).

Blair

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There have been a few strong gusts recorded this morning:

Mt Hotham 126km/h at 7am
Thredbo Crackenback 121 at 9am
Mt Wellington 117 at 9.30am
Maatsuyker Island 113 at 11.36am
Mt Buller 109 at 8.30am
Falls Creek 96 at 11.30am
Mt Lofty 93 at midnight

Also of note is that Crackenback reported 10 minute average speeds of
102km/h at both its 8 and 9am reports. All the snow is melted in Thredbo
Village, with a 9am temp of 9C.

Laurier


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>
>
> This was from thredbo at 9.12 AM
> NNW 102km 55kn 120km 65kn
> Somehow i think i wouldnt like to be skiing !!
> sydney is going for 30 kn so we will see :)
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IDN10030
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
NSW FORECAST POLICY
Issued at 11:30am on Thursday the 16th of August 2001

MSL PATTERN OVER THE NEXT THREE DAYS

Thursday 16/08/01 midnight

A high is in the central Tasman Sea and a vigorous cold front is
approaching southeast Australia. The cold front is expected to affect
the southwest of the state later today bringing cooler squally west
to southwest winds. Warm northwesterly winds should strengthen during
the day, reaching gale force about higher parts of the southern and
central ranges and western slopes. Cloud will increase in the south
with some rain developing during the day. Showers should follow the
front in the south with snow developing on the Snowy Mountains
overnight. The north of the state should remain dry.

Friday 17/08/01 midnight

On Friday the front will pass through the remainder of New South
Wales bringing fresh to strong west to southwesterly winds to most
areas at first, but easing later. Winds should  reach gale force in
the southeast with blizzard conditions in alpine areas.   Showers are
likely in the southeast, falling as snow on the Snowy Mountains.
Another cold front will approach western Victoria.

Saturday 18/08/01 midnight

On Saturday this front should move through New South Wales
maintaining the cool to cold westerly airstream.  Strong winds in the
south should ease as another cold front approaches western Victoria.
Isolated showers in the southern inland, clearing later. Showers
should continue about the southern and central ranges and western
slopes, with further snowfalls on the Snowy Mountains.

Sunday 19/08/01 midnight

On Sunday another front is expected to move into southwestern New
South Wales. Milder northwesterly winds are expected ahead of the
cooler westerly winds with the change, becoming strong again in the
south. Further showers are likely in the southeast and on the central
ranges, falling as snow only about  the highest peaks of Snowys.


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Hi all

I was sent this request (see below) for lightning footage to be shown in
the Centre at Federation Square when it opens in Melbourne later this
year.

If you have anything to offer, contact Lisa Daniel at
ldaniel at cinemedia.net


Cheers

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Monash University
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Subject: RE: [Fwd: Lightning video]

Hi Robert,
Thank you so much for your prompt response. I am currently working as a
researcher at Cinemedia in the Australian Centre for the Moving Image in
Melbourne. We are looking for video based observational records of lightning
patterns. These videos would be screened in the Centre at Federation Square
in Melbourne once it opens later this year. My job is to track these sorts
of visual materials down and then negotiate perpetual non-exclusive rights
to screen the work in the Screen Galleries. If you have something that might
fit that bill, or know someone who does, I'd love to hear from you.

Best wishes,

Lisa Daniel




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<P>I know&nbsp;many&nbsp;have predicted (myself included)&nbsp;this series of fronts will produce a real cold blast and this forecast&nbsp;is in part based on the satellite pictures which appear to show substantial cold air behind the first front (dappled cloud).</P>
<P>Now I'm wondering&nbsp;if we&nbsp;pundits are being seduced&nbsp;as to&nbsp;the apparent potency of the change, which&nbsp;to a signficant degree&nbsp;might be&nbsp;brought about&nbsp;by the large contrast&nbsp;foreshadowed by the abnormally warm weather ahead of the front.</P>
<P>Anyone with more knowledge than I care to comment whether the contrast from one side of a front to&nbsp;the other side&nbsp;can give a false impression as to the coldness of air behind the front (as shown by dappled cloud on the sat pics)?<BR><BR></P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html>
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Hi Lyle,

I suggest there is no scientific foundation for such a claim.  The fact is
that lightning simply chooses the best Earth available in a vicinity (i.e.,
typically the point that provides the best leader) - and therefore if a
particular static point is hit then the chances are actually pretty good
that it will get hit again all other things being equal.  People are mobile,
so therefore it doesn't count, unless you do something REALLY FARKING
stupid, and go and stand out in the open during a thunderstorm.

I might also mention that the chances of surviving a direct hit by lightning
are very slim indeed.  Most folk who claim to have been hit by lightning
have actually merely been very close to a strike, and suffered shock and
burns either from induced electric current, which by  itself can easily be
intense enough to kill, or shock by virtue of significant potential
difference between the feet due to electric field strength (the primary
mechanism whereby cattle are killed by lightning I believe).

I guess it is a question of definition - i.e, you could say that any shock
felt from a lightning strike equates to 'being hit' - in which case I could
claim to have been hit also.
Personally I like the definition which says being hit means part of your
body or clothing actually provides part of the path for the main stroke.

Regards,
John W.
















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Hi Phil,

I know a couple other people who have been struck, one of my teachers in
high school had been struck twice on the same oval. I heard that if you ahve
been struck once before and survived, your chances of getting struck again
are far greater than someone who had never been struck before. Does anyone
know if this is true?

Thanks ,LYle


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> Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently
> than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> building which are initially silent.
>
> The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North
> and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> an appropriate target for that third stroke!
>
> Phil
> <><
> International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
> <snip>
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
> >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
> > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> >
> >   Jimmy Deguara
> <snip>
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Just checked my pressure - 998hPa!!! down from 1001hPa at 11am.

The Victorian aviation forecast reads as follows:

ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS/HAIL FAR SW AFTER 06Z, TO BE SW OF LOXTON/  FLINDERS
ISLAND BY 11Z. VERY STRONG N/NW WINDS SHIFTING W FOLLOWING  FRONT. SEVERE
TURBULENCE LEE OF RANGES. COLD FRONT NEAR MT GAMBIER/  PORTLAND 01Z,
MILDURA/CAMUS 05Z, NARRANDERA/ORBOST 11Z. PATCHY RAIN E OF FRONT BECOMING
LOCALLY HEAVY WITHIN 120NM OF FRONT. LOW CLOUD IN  HEAVY RAIN AND IN
PRECIPITATION FOLLOWING FRONT. AREAS RAISED DUST
NW HORSHAM/KERANG W OF FRONT.

Don't let anyone tell you that Victoria doesn't have weather........


Jane
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...and it gets more interesting.....

Pressure bottomed out at 998hPa here & has risen slightly to 999hPa (5
minutes ago it said 1000hPa!!!!)  The 18,500' (500hPa) temp which was
progged to be -22C is now progged to be -26C to the west of the front).
Quite a bit of rain has fallen here (just NE of the CBD) since 2.30pm -
gutters are running.

TSRA = thunderstorm with rain
+RA = heavy rain

ISOL TSRA/HAIL/SNOW ABOVE 3500FT FAR SW AFTER 06Z, EXTD YLOX (Loxton, SA)
/YFLI (Flinders Is) BY 11Z, REMAINDER ON AND S OF RANGES BY 20Z. SEV TURB
LEE RANGES. FRONT YMIA (Mildura) /CAMUS (betw Flinders & King Is) 05Z, YNAR
(Narrandera, NSW)/YORB (Orbost) 11Z, CLEAR OF AREA BY 13Z. FRONT SLOPING W
WITH HEIGHT, POSITION AT 10000FT 350NM TO W. PATCHY RA E OF FRONT,  LOCALLY
+RA WITHIN 120NM OF FRONT. LOW CLOUD IN +RA AND IN PRECIP W   OF FRONT. DUST
NW HORSHAM/KERANG W OF FRONT TILL 11Z

SUBDIVISIONS:
 A: E OF FRONT
 B: W OF FRONT

WIND:
   2000    5000    7000    10000        14000        18500
A: 330/45  330/45  320/50  310/60 MS02  310/60 MS09  300/85 MS18
B: 250/40  250/40  240/45  230/45 MS12  230/50 MS18  230/60 MS26

Hopping from foot to foot here!!!!

Jane
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Some people obviously don't have work to do.....

:)

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:48 PM 8/15/01 +1000, you wrote:

>> > Yeah sorry about that... it was a freak gust of wind !!!!!! :-)
>>
>>We can blame Jimmy for that.
>>
>>AC
>
>Given the strength of that particular low level jet, I can tell you AC I 
>was on the look out for shear funnels, possibly a brief spin up in the lake!
>
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I like that one..

Imagine people building up a magnetic field system inside them.... and then 
attract more lightning..

I also heard that smaller people have less chance of getting struck by 
lightning than taller people...

I am outa here.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:46 AM 8/15/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Phil,
>
>I know a couple other people who have been struck, one of my teachers in
>high school had been struck twice on the same oval. I heard that if you ahve
>been struck once before and survived, your chances of getting struck again
>are far greater than someone who had never been struck before. Does anyone
>know if this is true?
>
>Thanks ,LYle
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:04 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning
>
>
> > Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> > does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> > one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> > tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more frequently
> > than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> > building which are initially silent.
> >
> > The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> > twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk North
> > and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> > lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> > bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> > an appropriate target for that third stroke!
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
> >
> > <snip>
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> > <snip>
> > >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm....... I
> > > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> > >
> > >   Jimmy Deguara
> > <snip>
> >
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The 1500 bulletin makes interesting reading in the Mallee - the front
was obviously somewhere between Walpeup and Ouyen at 1500 (Walpeup
is 30km west of Ouyen), because Ouyen was reporting 21 and dust, and
Walpeup 14 (with DP 14) and rain.

Lots of warm temperatures ahead of the front - in Victoria Mildura
got to 28, and further east, 25 at Lakes Entrance and 24 at Orbost.
Numerous records for early-season warmth have been approached, but
none broken that I've seen (yet). Canberra's rounded max was 20 - if it
made it to 20 this would be their earliest-ever 20 (previously 18/8/
1995), but based on the hourly obs I suspect they may have fallen
just short.

Someone has reportedly been killed by a falling tree in outer eastern
Melbourne.

Blair

> ...and it gets more interesting.....
> 
> Pressure bottomed out at 998hPa here & has risen slightly to 999hPa (5
> minutes ago it said 1000hPa!!!!)  The 18,500' (500hPa) temp which was
> progged to be -22C is now progged to be -26C to the west of the front).
> Quite a bit of rain has fallen here (just NE of the CBD) since 2.30pm -
> gutters are running.
> 
> TSRA = thunderstorm with rain
> +RA = heavy rain
> 
> ISOL TSRA/HAIL/SNOW ABOVE 3500FT FAR SW AFTER 06Z, EXTD YLOX (Loxton, SA)
> /YFLI (Flinders Is) BY 11Z, REMAINDER ON AND S OF RANGES BY 20Z. SEV TURB
> LEE RANGES. FRONT YMIA (Mildura) /CAMUS (betw Flinders & King Is) 05Z, YNAR
> (Narrandera, NSW)/YORB (Orbost) 11Z, CLEAR OF AREA BY 13Z. FRONT SLOPING W
> WITH HEIGHT, POSITION AT 10000FT 350NM TO W. PATCHY RA E OF FRONT,  LOCALLY
> +RA WITHIN 120NM OF FRONT. LOW CLOUD IN +RA AND IN PRECIP W   OF FRONT. DUST
> NW HORSHAM/KERANG W OF FRONT TILL 11Z
> 
> SUBDIVISIONS:
>  A: E OF FRONT
>  B: W OF FRONT
> 
> WIND:
>    2000    5000    7000    10000        14000        18500
> A: 330/45  330/45  320/50  310/60 MS02  310/60 MS09  300/85 MS18
> B: 250/40  250/40  240/45  230/45 MS12  230/50 MS18  230/60 MS26
> 
> Hopping from foot to foot here!!!!
> 
> Jane
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Yes, I can relate to the smell of ozone on a large number of times when 
our building has been hit.  You can't smell it every time, but quite 
frequently.
The other spectacular effect is a great shower of molten metal falling 
past our windows - similar to someone welding just above - which I think 
is closely related to the fact that our building manager has to replace 
the lightning conductor rod quite frequently as it becomes too short to 
be safe.
It usually does not affect our electricity supply, which is reticulated 
underground here, but on the occasions it does and we get more than one 
direct hit in the same storm, I have also observed every electrical 
outlet glowing bright greenish-white after the second direct hit.
Once in a while the lightning also takes out one of our lifts - so much 
for lightning rods!
Typhoon York in 1999 took out every lift in our building for a week and 
the fire department had to rescue people from more than 500 lifts which 
were disabled by that one storm.

Phil
<><
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:29:48 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning

> One of my fellow workers lived in Bangkok for 5 years with her husband.
> They
> lived near the top floor of a large compartment building and she says
> the
> number of times the building was hit was incredible. She said sometimes
> you
> could even smell the ozone afterwards.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> > Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it
> definitely
> > does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place. 
> The
> > one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the
> other
> > tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more
> frequently
> > than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> > building which are initially silent.
> >
> > The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same
> person
> > twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk
> North
> > and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> > lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> > bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself
> as
> > an appropriate target for that third stroke!
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> > International Christian School E-mail: smithp at ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
> >
> > <snip>
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Jimmy Deguara
> > <snip>
> > >   Can lightning strike the same place more than once?  Hmmmm.......
> I
> > > think chasers with videos can answer that one.
> > >
> > >   Jimmy Deguara
> > <snip>
> >
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From: "Bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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It's a hell of a long time since I've seen a barometer drop here to match
today's. Down 21 in 18 hours and still falling. Currently showing 999.5
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Things have just arrived here and the wind has really upped the ante.
Clocked a 62.9kmh here a few minutes ago with the barometer now rising
rapidly along with the dew point and humidity reading. Temp dropping
sharply. Still averaging around the 50kmh mark :-)
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on 16/8/01 4:41 PM, Blair Trewin at blair at atlas.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au
wrote:

> The 1500 bulletin makes interesting reading in the Mallee - the front
> was obviously somewhere between Walpeup and Ouyen at 1500 (Walpeup
> is 30km west of Ouyen), because Ouyen was reporting 21 and dust, and
> Walpeup 14 (with DP 14) and rain.
> 
> Lots of warm temperatures ahead of the front - in Victoria Mildura
> got to 28, and further east, 25 at Lakes Entrance and 24 at Orbost.
> Numerous records for early-season warmth have been approached, but
> none broken that I've seen (yet). Canberra's rounded max was 20 - if it
> made it to 20 this would be their earliest-ever 20 (previously 18/8/
> 1995), but based on the hourly obs I suspect they may have fallen
> just short.
> 
> Someone has reportedly been killed by a falling tree in outer eastern
> Melbourne.
> 
> Blair
> 
Yep
Mildura was warm today it's currently around 14 'out the back'.  The front
arrived at about 3:20 or so, the temp had dropped to about 17 by 4:30. ON my
trip home there were two 40 - 50 cm diam. trees snapped at the bottom, lots
of debris and lo and behold the old  tree had blocked my drive.  No rain to
speak of.  The weather station did record 10 mm somehow (it's only 5km form
here) my guess is they left the sprinkler on.

Greg Stewart
Far North West Vic 

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David Croan wrote:
> 
> > > Yeah sorry about that... it was a freak gust of wind !!!!!! :-)
> >
> >We can blame Jimmy for that.
> >
> >AC
> 
> Given the strength of that particular low level jet, I can tell you AC I was
> on the look out for shear funnels, possibly a brief spin up in the lake!
> 
> David

It seems like the strongest winds come from the smallest systems!  Quite
interesting really!

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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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For those of you interested in following the weather here atm,  I've
listed the links expanded from the site David Jones put us onto this
morning:-

Melbourne Real Time Temps (updates every 10 mins)
http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbtemp.html

Melbourne Real Time Rainfall Obs (updates every 10 mins)
http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbrain.html

Port Phillip Bay Wind & Temperatures (updates every 10 minutes)
http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/bay.html


They are also linked from the following pages on the MSC site:
* August Forecast Outlook, Discussion & Report page
* Current Victorian Weather
* MSC Weather Cafe

Jane

PS: if you'd like thumbnails of what I saw in Sydney on Tuesday's storm
chase go here
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_08_01.htm
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Windy!!! ...and more cold air to follow next week.
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Lots of wind, dramatic barometer falls and temperature changes as the front
moves through Vic and NSW, but not much else. Highest gusts today to 8pm:

Mt Hotham Vic: 133km/h at 7pm at the airport (suspiciously high), 128 at 6pm
on the summit.
Cape Grim Tas: 126 at 7pm
Thredbo Crackenback NSW: 121 at 9am
Mt Wellington Tas: 117 at 9.30am
Neptune Is SA: 115 at 12.03pm and 4.29pm
Maatsuyker Is Tas: 113 at 11.36pm
Mt Buller Vic: 113 at 5pm
Cape Nelson Vic: 111 at 5.22pm
Deniliquin NSW: 109 at 5.22pm with the change
Gellibrand Vic: 109 at 5.27pm
Portland Vic: 108 at 8.04pm
Cape Otway Vic: 102 at 7.04pm
Strahan Tas: 100 at 5.07pm
Warrnambool AP Vic: 100 at 5.27pm
Eildon Vic: 98 at 4.20pm
Hamilton Vic: 98 at 6.28pm
Avalon AP Vic: 98 at 5.24pm
Port Fairy Vic: 96 at 4.12pm
Swan Hill Vic: 96 at 6.20pm
Edithburgh SA: 93 at 4.40pm

Here at Blackheath the wind has picked up noticeably in the past hour -- Mt
Boyce now reporting average 54km/h gusts to 95km/h

Most places from central NSW south have been reporting 3-hourly pressure
falls between 5 and 7hPa at the past few observations, and 6pm Griffith was
reporting a temp of 25.9 while Deniliquin, 170km SW, was reporting 12.6. A
very dynamic thermal front, so no wonder there's wind and pressure falls.

Latest GASP continues to be interesting into next week, with sub-530
thicknesses over southern Victoria Tues to Thurs, and the 540 line well up
into NSW, and lots of precipitation in the south. Last night's EC and this
morning's MRF and NOGAPS are a little warmer, but all three go for the low
to move south of Tasmania and stop, then spawn a succession of secondaries
which dumbbell around the main low through the week, shooting colder air
north over Tasmania and into Victoria and the southeast. The devil will be
in the detail, but the broadscale pattern looks pretty promising.

The NSW BoM has sleet in the forecast for the Central Tablelands, and snow
to 1000m on the Southern Tablelands for tomorrow and early Saturday. I'd say
there's a good chance of snow flurries in the Blue Mountains when the front
comes through tomorrow morning, and possibly with the second front tomorrow
night, while the Oberon area should at least get some snow cover.

Laurier

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From: "Ben Tichborne" <tich at netaccess.co.nz>
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 SE Australia may be about to get an icy blast, but I doubt whether it'll be
anything like what the North Island has been getting lately. The cold
southerly outbreak eased away reasonably quickly over the South Island, but
as it moved north, what people in NSW might call an ECL developed and bang,
the the weather went crazy! Southerly winds got up to near hurricane force
through Cook Strait - 9 metre swells, so no Interislander Ferries. Heavy
rain fell in the southeast at lower levels, but it snowed thickly on the
high country.
 But the worst weather was the very heavy snow dump thoughout the central
high country, settling, I believe, to as low as 400 metres. All highways in
the area were closed, and even the train service through the central North
Island had to be stopped due to too much snow on the tracks. Power was cut
to many parts of the area, and a sawmill building in a small town west of Mt
Ruapehu collapsed under the weight of snow. The low is now weakening, but
the damage from this storm will take some time to fully repair.

Ben
Christchurch (fine and cold tonight)
NZ

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That front is MOVING! its already streched up to ivanhoe at 8.12 PM so what
time is it due to hit sydney????
winds definatly picking up here now
----- Original Message -----
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> For those of you interested in following the weather here atm,  I've
> listed the links expanded from the site David Jones put us onto this
> morning:-
>
> Melbourne Real Time Temps (updates every 10 mins)
> http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbtemp.html
>
> Melbourne Real Time Rainfall Obs (updates every 10 mins)
> http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbrain.html
>
> Port Phillip Bay Wind & Temperatures (updates every 10 minutes)
> http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/bay.html
>
>
> They are also linked from the following pages on the MSC site:
> * August Forecast Outlook, Discussion & Report page
> * Current Victorian Weather
> * MSC Weather Cafe
>
> Jane
>
> PS: if you'd like thumbnails of what I saw in Sydney on Tuesday's storm
> chase go here
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_08_01.htm
> --------------------------------
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> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The cloud held the heat in :-)</FONT></DIV>
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  <P><BR><BR>Hi everyone,</P>
  <P>I know the (very) basics of what happened last night with regard to the 
  warmth in Melbourne - but someone at work is telling me that "it can't heat up 
  like that at night" - despite him feeling it. I knew what I wanted to tell 
  him, but had a hard time explaining it.</P>
  <P>Can anyone give me a decent (and yet fairly simple) explanation of how last 
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 21:15:05 +1000
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The front's just west of Young now. Should be in Sydney by 1AM I reckon.

Andrew.


Dean McWhinney wrote:
> 
> That front is MOVING! its already streched up to ivanhoe at 8.12 PM so what
> time is it due to hit sydney????
> winds definatly picking up here now
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jane ONeill <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic weather...more
> 
> > For those of you interested in following the weather here atm,  I've
> > listed the links expanded from the site David Jones put us onto this
> > morning:-
> >
> > Melbourne Real Time Temps (updates every 10 mins)
> > http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbtemp.html
> >
> > Melbourne Real Time Rainfall Obs (updates every 10 mins)
> > http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/melbrain.html
> >
> > Port Phillip Bay Wind & Temperatures (updates every 10 minutes)
> > http://www.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au/~awatkins/bay.html
> >
> >
> > They are also linked from the following pages on the MSC site:
> > * August Forecast Outlook, Discussion & Report page
> > * Current Victorian Weather
> > * MSC Weather Cafe
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > PS: if you'd like thumbnails of what I saw in Sydney on Tuesday's storm
> > chase go here
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_08_01.htm
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Melbourne Storm Chasers
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > ASWA - Victoria
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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> >
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We know Maatsuyker Island's reputation for windiness is as good as Wilson's
Prom's, but check the last couple of hours obs as the low slid past. A mean
speed of 122 with gusts to 142 fairly takes the breath away.

Laurier


TIME DATE     TIME WIND         TEMP  DEW   BARO
  |RAIN  ----- ----- ----- ---  |
utc  local    locl DIR/SPD GST        POINT METER  |since past  past  since
|
                   (km/h)                   (qnh)  |09.00 10    hour   last
obs  |
                                                   |      mins         mm
min  |
1000 20010816 2000 330/ 48  64    9.6   7.1  978.6 |  4.8   0.0   0.0   0.2
17  |
1006 20010816 2006 330/ 38  63    9.7   6.6  978.1 |  4.8   0.0   0.0   0.0
6  |
1011 20010816 2011 320/ 63  76   10.0   6.3  977.8 |  4.8   0.0   0.0   0.0
5  |
1016 20010816 2016 320/ 83  98    7.8   6.3  977.0 |  5.0   0.2   0.0   0.2
5  |
1030 20010816 2030 320/ 64  81    7.8   6.1  978.1 |  5.4   0.2   0.0   0.4
14  |
1032 20010816 2032 320/ 53  72    8.1   5.9  977.8 |  5.4   0.0   0.0   0.0
2  |
1037 20010816 2037 320/ 72  85    8.3   6.2  977.5 |  5.4   0.0   0.0   0.0
5  |
1055 20010816 2055 320/ 77  96    8.5   5.0  976.1 |  5.6   0.0   0.0   0.2
18  |
1105 20010816 2105 320/ 77  98    8.7   4.6  975.7 |  5.6   0.0   0.0   0.0
10  |
1122 20010816 2122 320/ 81 107    8.3   6.0  975.5 |  5.6   0.0   0.0   0.0
17  |
1124 20010816 2124 320/100 111    8.2   5.6  974.9 |  5.6   0.0   0.0   0.0
2  |
1142 20010816 2142 300/101 126    7.6   6.1  975.1 |  5.6   0.0   0.0   0.0
18  |
1143 20010816 2143 310/120 139    7.4   6.1  973.7 |  5.8   0.2   0.0   0.2
1  |
1153 20010816 2153 310/122 142    6.8   5.6  974.7 |  6.0   0.2   0.0   0.2
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Hi Bussie,

When you talk about thicknesses, you talk about how high you have to go
to get to a certain level.  Often the 500mb thickness is the thickness
(or the height) between 1000mb and 500mb.  Cold air is more dense than
warmer air, so it takes up less space.  So it would make sense that
colder air appears 'thinner' in thickness, hence why lower thicknesses
are wanted.  Thicknesses are given in tens of metres, so 540 = 5400m.

Just remember though...you're taking an average, so the 500mb thickness
would smooth out any warm and cold patches, and give an approximation of
the entire 1000-500mb level.

There are general cutoffs for cold air thicknesses, 540 is considered
cold air, 530 very cold air...not sure on what thicknesses tend to give
snow to general levels, but again you come into the averaging part. 
Sometimes it's easier looking for height of where it'll be 0C, and then
taking that as the snowline (give or take 100-200m).

AC

Bussie wrote:
> 
> I've sat back reading and trying to take it all in but can't quite grab some
> things so it's time to annoy everyone and start asking questions. I sort of
> understand that a thickness of anywhere round 540 and below means some
> pretty rough weather on the way, as I have seen may happen in my part of the
> world this weekend. Great time for both my girls to be having their parties
> :-((
> By my observations around my area we may have somewhere around 525 on
> Saturday. Someone mentioned several days ago (and my apologies to who it
> was) that we may have lots of snow and very cold/wet conditions. Does a 525
> mean this?
> Anyone care to explain this in "bloke on the street" terms for me and anyone
> else who is trying to take some of this stuff in. Thanks all in advance.
> My observations from nature are that it is un-seasonally warm. Fruit trees
> are blossoming early. Canola crops are starting to flower here. Sheep have
> lambed earlier than normal ( I think) and (for Clyve), I can't ever remember
> the frogs croaking in the middle of August!!!
> Any thoughts anyone.
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 22:13:46 +0800
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You mean The Cloud is back in Melbourne?

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's warm evening

> The cloud held the heat in :-)
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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>   Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne's warm evening
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Hi everyone,
> 
>   I know the (very) basics of what happened last night with regard to
> the warmth in Melbourne - but someone at work is telling me that "it
> can't heat up like that at night" - despite him feeling it. I knew what
> I wanted to tell him, but had a hard time explaining it.
> 
>   Can anyone give me a decent (and yet fairly simple) explanation of
> how last night's wonderful warmth occured, that I can tell this guy and
> make him believe! :)
> 
>   Thanks!
>   Simon
> 
> 
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:19:56 +1000
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HI all. 

High winds currently in Bathurst, around 50 km/h brought down some
power lines.. Roofs been lifted around Cowra.. SES been activated 
around these areas.  

Pressure down to 1005 and falling. 

Will be interesting night. 

DAve
Bathurst
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:24:53 +1000
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Pressure has gone under 1000 hPa on NSW South Coast as at 12AM (997 at
YWOL is the lowest). The front is over a line from Orange to Merimbula
and should extend up to the Ilawarra within the next hour.

The wind has just got serious here in Wollongong now with huge gusts and
some disturbingly loud bangs of things blowing around outside. It's been
relatively light all day compared with anywhere west of the coastal
strip.

The temperature is 23.1 which equals the maximum for here today! RH is
25% and feels like it too!

Andrew.
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:27:09 +1000
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Just heard on scanner, 66,000 volt line into Oberon has tripped.. 

Many calls coming in via police, ambo and ses.. 

Large tree across road 1 km from Cowra, blocking road. 

Dave 
Bathurst
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Sleet, central vic coast.
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Hi all cold weather lovers.
What a remarkable contrast, I watched in almost disbelief last night as I
saw my temp creep to 19.5c at 3am this morning!...Ive never seen that before
in August,  and tonight I stood on my veranda here at Leopold and watched a
brief fall of sleet! at around midnight and the temp creeping down to 3.8c.
Most of the rainfall had embedded ice which splattered on my west facing
windows....I love it keep it coming, also a fair amount of lightning over
Bass Strait as this thermal trough wafts through. regards Clyve Herbert.

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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:38:02 +1000
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The strong gusts in a small strip ahead of the front should keep moving
with it and affect Sydney in the near future I expect. Could be some
damage tomorrow.

Bathurst had 52Kt(!!) gusts and Mossvale and Nowra had  36Kt gusts in
the last hour - the line made by those three was just ahead of and
parallel with the front.

Andrew.


Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> 
> Pressure has gone under 1000 hPa on NSW South Coast as at 12AM (997 at
> YWOL is the lowest). The front is over a line from Orange to Merimbula
> and should extend up to the Ilawarra within the next hour.
> 
> The wind has just got serious here in Wollongong now with huge gusts and
> some disturbingly loud bangs of things blowing around outside. It's been
> relatively light all day compared with anywhere west of the coastal
> strip.
> 
> The temperature is 23.1 which equals the maximum for here today! RH is
> 25% and feels like it too!
> 
> Andrew.
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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW WIND WARNING
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 00:42:08 +1000
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Issue at 11</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>:56pm, A 
bit behind, aren't they!!!!, and no emergency&nbsp;Advice 
given.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>IDN28000 NSW Wind Warning for Land 
Areas<BR>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY<BR>NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE<BR>Issued at 
2356 on Thursday the 16th of August 2001<BR>Gale force NW to SW winds&nbsp; 
overnight&nbsp; in the following districts. SOUTHERN TABLELANDS<BR>SOUTHWEST 
SLOPES<BR>CENTRAL TABLELANDS<BR>SOUTH COAST<BR>ILLAWARRA</STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
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Subject: aus-wx: TAS Alert..
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just going through the warnings, and the BoM have 
stated that they expect snow to fall down the 500m mark....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>IDT38200<BR>BUREAU OF 
METEOROLOGY<BR>TASMANIA AND ANTARCTICA REGIONAL OFFICE<BR>HOBART 
WARNING<BR>BUSHWALKING ALERT<BR>Issued at 9:40pm on Thursday the 16th of August 
2001 Renewal Bushwalking weather alert for western, central and southern 
highland areas.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>Bushwalkers are advised that a much colder 
southwesterly change is expected<BR>during the early morning with windy, showery 
conditions and highland snowfalls<BR>developing before descending to about the 
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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Canberrs SWA
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Interesting that this is the ONLY SWA 
issued,that ive seen tonight...</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><EM>IDN26300<BR>ACT SEVERE WEATHER 
ADVICE<BR>TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST<BR>BUREAU OF 
METEOROLOGY<BR>CANBERRA METEOROLOGICAL OFFICE<BR>Issued at 2034 on Thursday the 
16th of August 2001 A SEVERE WEATHER ADVICE has been issued by the BUREAU OF 
METEOROLOGY<BR>for people in the Australian Capital Territory. Damaging winds 
are expected with the passage of a cold front which should<BR>reach the west of 
the ACT around 10pm. Winds strong enough to damage houses and trees have been 
reported from<BR>Deniliquin, Wagga and Bombala. The ACT EMERGENCY SERVICE 
advises that as the cold front approachs people<BR>should:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
move indoors away from windows During and after the front people 
should:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; beware of fallen trees and power 
lines<BR>&nbsp;<BR>If your house is damaged contact the ACT Emergency Service on 
6207-8455 for<BR>emergency assistance.</EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:29:15 +1000
From: Andrew Miskelly <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
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Massive gust here just took a few sheets of corrigated iron of next
doors roof!! Better get that pinned down...

Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> 
> The strong gusts in a small strip ahead of the front should keep moving
> with it and affect Sydney in the near future I expect. Could be some
> damage tomorrow.
> 
> Bathurst had 52Kt(!!) gusts and Mossvale and Nowra had  36Kt gusts in
> the last hour - the line made by those three was just ahead of and
> parallel with the front.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> >
> > Pressure has gone under 1000 hPa on NSW South Coast as at 12AM (997 at
> > YWOL is the lowest). The front is over a line from Orange to Merimbula
> > and should extend up to the Ilawarra within the next hour.
> >
> > The wind has just got serious here in Wollongong now with huge gusts and
> > some disturbingly loud bangs of things blowing around outside. It's been
> > relatively light all day compared with anywhere west of the coastal
> > strip.
> >
> > The temperature is 23.1 which equals the maximum for here today! RH is
> > 25% and feels like it too!
> >
> > Andrew.
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Some wind gust information for the past hour.

Wilsons Prom at 12.56am average 130 gust 148km/h!!!!!!!!!.
Kingfish Oil Platform (in open water in Bass Strait off the coast near Sale
Vic): 12.40am 89/109 (a ship report west of Bass Strait at 10pm gave average
65 *knots*)
Cape Grim Tas: midnight 104/130
Maatsuyker Tas: midnight 111/128
Cape Otway Vic: 12.22am 74/115
Cape Bruny Tas: 1.01am 76/109
Bathurst: 12.04am 61/96
Montague Is NSW: 78/96
Bellambi NSW: 65/93
Mt Boyce NSW: 65/89

Laurier


> -----Original Message-----
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> Miskelly
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>
>
> The strong gusts in a small strip ahead of the front should keep moving
> with it and affect Sydney in the near future I expect. Could be some
> damage tomorrow.
>
> Bathurst had 52Kt(!!) gusts and Mossvale and Nowra had  36Kt gusts in
> the last hour - the line made by those three was just ahead of and
> parallel with the front.
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> >
> > Pressure has gone under 1000 hPa on NSW South Coast as at 12AM (997 at
> > YWOL is the lowest). The front is over a line from Orange to Merimbula
> > and should extend up to the Ilawarra within the next hour.
> >
> > The wind has just got serious here in Wollongong now with huge gusts and
> > some disturbingly loud bangs of things blowing around outside. It's been
> > relatively light all day compared with anywhere west of the coastal
> > strip.
> >
> > The temperature is 23.1 which equals the maximum for here today! RH is
> > 25% and feels like it too!
> >
> > Andrew.
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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Hi John,

I would tend to agree that a strike should mean you physically got hit, but
hey, if i survived a close strike I would surly be talking about 'the time i
got hit' for the rest of my life. It didn't make sense to me that if you got
hit you were more suseptible but the guy who got struck said that he was
warned that he is now more likely to get struck? By who i don't know -
doctor, physicsist or cleaning person ?

Cheers, Lyle

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> Hi Lyle,
>
> I suggest there is no scientific foundation for such a claim.  The fact is
> that lightning simply chooses the best Earth available in a vicinity
(i.e.,
> typically the point that provides the best leader) - and therefore if a
> particular static point is hit then the chances are actually pretty good
> that it will get hit again all other things being equal.  People are
mobile,
> so therefore it doesn't count, unless you do something REALLY FARKING
> stupid, and go and stand out in the open during a thunderstorm.
>
> I might also mention that the chances of surviving a direct hit by
lightning
> are very slim indeed.  Most folk who claim to have been hit by lightning
> have actually merely been very close to a strike, and suffered shock and
> burns either from induced electric current, which by  itself can easily be
> intense enough to kill, or shock by virtue of significant potential
> difference between the feet due to electric field strength (the primary
> mechanism whereby cattle are killed by lightning I believe).
>
> I guess it is a question of definition - i.e, you could say that any shock
> felt from a lightning strike equates to 'being hit' - in which case I
could
> claim to have been hit also.
> Personally I like the definition which says being hit means part of your
> body or clothing actually provides part of the path for the main stroke.
>
> Regards,
> John W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:46 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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>
>
> Hi Phil,
>
> I know a couple other people who have been struck, one of my teachers in
> high school had been struck twice on the same oval. I heard that if you
ahve
> been struck once before and survived, your chances of getting struck again
> are far greater than someone who had never been struck before. Does anyone
> know if this is true?
>
> Thanks ,LYle
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: lightning
>
>
> > Regarding whether lightning strikes the same place twice, it definitely
> > does, if you count the lightning rod on a tall building as a place.  The
> > one on our place is struck at least a dozen times a year, and the other
> > tall buildings all around us are collectively struck much more
frequently
> > than that.  They are much louder flangs than the ones which hit our
> > building which are initially silent.
> >
> > The second related issue is whether lightning can strike the same person
> > twice and I have lived through this to say it can - once in Dumbalk
North
> > and once near Morwell.  But since one third of all people struck by
> > lightning are killed and I have received two strokes already, I work
> > bloody hard during thunderstorms to make sure I do not present myself as
> > an appropriate target for that third stroke!
> >
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Street lights all out here in Wollongong now after a brief power outage.
Massive gusts causing all sorts of carnage out side!


Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> 
> The strong gusts in a small strip ahead of the front should keep moving
> with it and affect Sydney in the near future I expect. Could be some
> damage tomorrow.
> 
> Bathurst had 52Kt(!!) gusts and Mossvale and Nowra had  36Kt gusts in
> the last hour - the line made by those three was just ahead of and
> parallel with the front.
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> Andrew Miskelly wrote:
> >
> > Pressure has gone under 1000 hPa on NSW South Coast as at 12AM (997 at
> > YWOL is the lowest). The front is over a line from Orange to Merimbula
> > and should extend up to the Ilawarra within the next hour.
> >
> > The wind has just got serious here in Wollongong now with huge gusts and
> > some disturbingly loud bangs of things blowing around outside. It's been
> > relatively light all day compared with anywhere west of the coastal
> > strip.
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> > The temperature is 23.1 which equals the maximum for here today! RH is
> > 25% and feels like it too!
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No official reports yet but it will be snowing on the tablelands now
(2AM). 0.9 at Orange and 2.4 at Goulburn with current precipitation in
both cases. Given those figures, the Oberon area should have a good
cover by morning with plenty more colder air to come through before
sunrise.

Wollongong should be quite a wreck by morning. About a third of next
door's roof is gone and there's lots of debris around. We've had some
>50Kt gusts in the last hour.

Unfortunately for Garbage Men, tonight is collection night. There won't
be many bins standing when they come around in the morning!

Andrew.
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Have a look at this CSIRO image for the front & the low south of
Tasmania - an absolutely amazing image!!!!
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/AA17431.gif

Jane
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Just had a call from my mum in Wagga. The front went through there at about
7:50pm while she was out collecting census forms. Power went out in a few
suburbs, as well as a couple of trees down. Temp also dropping rapidly.
I'll try to get her to check the barometer over the next couple of hours,
see how that drops...

Craig

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Things have just arrived here and the wind has really upped the ante.
Clocked a 62.9kmh here a few minutes ago with the barometer now rising
rapidly along with the dew point and humidity reading. Temp dropping
sharply. Still averaging around the 50kmh mark :-)
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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HI all..

Was called into work from 6.30, staff been out from 11pm last night.

Towns with problems at the moment are as follows, Bathurst, Milthorpe ,
Borenore , Orange, Springhill,, Cowra areas very badly affected many trees
down , power lines down, Parkes, Condobolin, Oberon,

Blizzard conditions reported at Portland  near Lithgow..

Dave
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Still plenty windy in Sydney. Awoke this morning to a banging water
pipe - ie, hydraulic hammer effect.  What the hell is that I think. 
Leap out of bed to investigate.  Eventually discover that guttering on
east side of house at the back has ripped off at one end, and swung
down in a twisted snake like mess and smashed the window in the
laundry, the shattered glass has then sliced straight through the
rubber hose from the hot water tap to the back of the washing
machine.  Laundry totally flooded, hot water tank (off peak - old
style - 200 gallon type) in the roof has drained empty.  The noise was
coming from the little ball check valve trying to keep up with the
inflow to fill the tank (it didn't have a hope in hell).  Rang work
and said I couldn't come in.  Boss says why not.  Answer, unable to
bathe.  Didn't see the funny side.  He is a sour type at times.

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Sounds like and episode of Fawlty Towers (Farty Twats?). Hope your day
gets better.

Andrew.


Peter Creswick wrote:
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> Still plenty windy in Sydney. Awoke this morning to a banging water
> pipe - ie, hydraulic hammer effect.  What the hell is that I think.
> Leap out of bed to investigate.  Eventually discover that guttering on
> east side of house at the back has ripped off at one end, and swung
> down in a twisted snake like mess and smashed the window in the
> laundry, the shattered glass has then sliced straight through the
> rubber hose from the hot water tap to the back of the washing
> machine.  Laundry totally flooded, hot water tank (off peak - old
> style - 200 gallon type) in the roof has drained empty.  The noise was
> coming from the little ball check valve trying to keep up with the
> inflow to fill the tank (it didn't have a hope in hell).  Rang work
> and said I couldn't come in.  Boss says why not.  Answer, unable to
> bathe.  Didn't see the funny side.  He is a sour type at times.
> 
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Could a dozen or so people please try & get into each of these 3 pages & let
me know what you see ...

www.stormchasers.au.com

www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm

www.stormchasers.au.com/aug01.htm


Many thanks for your help,

Jane
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Hi all..

Snow falling in Blayney area. cars covered in thick snow.. ..

Road still open at present..

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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>Well I don't know about that, I 
got one issued at 5.30 pm????&nbsp; Just after front hit 
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  overnight&nbsp; in the following districts. SOUTHERN TABLELANDS<BR>SOUTHWEST 
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Could a dozen or so people please try & get into each of these 3 pages & let
me know what you see ...

www.stormchasers.au.com

www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm

www.stormchasers.au.com/aug01.htm


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Jane
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Snow laying on ground Oberon, and sides of road heading to Lithgow from
Bathurst..

Heard no road closures as yet..

Dave

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<P>Arrived home to Tyabb (near Mornington (SE Vic) around 9:45pm last night and all the power was out down there too... not to mention small branches on my driveway... </P>
<P>I think I missed some really nice action while I was working.</P>
<P>Incidentally, just before I went to sleep, the sound of the wind outside my bedroom window, made me understand the description that people say, who are in a tornado, about it sounding like a freight train. Although it wasn't a tornado and not nearly as strong, there was a definate "freight train" sound to it.</P>
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First warning in series actually went out at 10:14am on Wednesday :-).

IDN28000
NSW Wind Warning for Land Areas
Issued at 1014 on Wednesday the 15th of August 2001
W/NW winds increasing to gale force on Thursday about higher parts of the
following districts and tending W/SW later.
SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
SOUTHWEST SLOPES
CENTRAL WEST SLOPES
CENTRAL TABLELANDS

Cheers Ben...

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Well I don't know about that, I got one issued at 5.30 pm????  Just after
front hit Deniliquin.
Tina :-)
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  Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:42 AM
  Subject: aus-wx: NSW WIND WARNING


  Issue at 11:56pm, A bit behind, aren't they!!!!, and no emergency Advice
given.....

  IDN28000 NSW Wind Warning for Land Areas
  BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
  NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
  Issued at 2356 on Thursday the 16th of August 2001
  Gale force NW to SW winds  overnight  in the following districts. SOUTHERN
TABLELANDS
  SOUTHWEST SLOPES
  CENTRAL TABLELANDS
  SOUTH COAST
  ILLAWARRA


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It's stuffed again Jane - orange screen of death


At 09:20 AM 17/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Could a dozen or so people please try & get into each of these 3 pages & let
>me know what you see ...
>
>www.stormchasers.au.com
>
>www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm
>
>www.stormchasers.au.com/aug01.htm
>
>
>Many thanks for your help,
>
>Jane
>---------------------------------------
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>cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
>Melbourne Storm Chasers
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>ASWA - Victoria
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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Thanks Ian,
I'm shouting at them as we speak.

Jane

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Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: MSC site

Could a dozen or so people please try & get into each of these 3 pages & let
me know what you see ...

www.stormchasers.au.com

www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm

www.stormchasers.au.com/aug01.htm


Many thanks for your help,

Jane
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Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:27:53 +1000
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Hello Everyone

It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been reported down to 300m. We
have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See below.
Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!

Chas
Strahan Tasmania


TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001


CAPE SORELL
 WIND: WSW  28KT
Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
 Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
 Period:  15 secs

MARRAWAH
 WIND: WSW  32KT,
 SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
 SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
 RECENT PRECIPITATION

CAPE GRIM
 WIND: W    34KT

FLINDERS IS
 WIND: WSW  42KT

MAATSUYKER IS
 WIND: WNW  41KT,
 SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
 SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
 VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION



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Issued at 6:30am on Friday the 17th of August 2001 for  

Thunderstorms are still expected over Gippsland this morning and could produce
winds in excess of 100 km/h.  The general gale force winds have now eased inland
but continue on the coast.       

People in these districts are warned that the storms may produce:

- Damaging winds





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storms approach, secure loose items, move vehicles under cover, then stay
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From: "macdonald" <sclmacdonald at optusnet.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Brief snow at Guyra
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 11:05:43 +1000
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<DIV>Around 8:30 this morning Guyra had a brief snowfall. Jeff (Guyra Observer) 
said the snow lasted about 10 mins.&nbsp; I have just phoned the Guyra Caravan 
Park, Doug said that it was wind,cold and fine. He said the locals think that it 
is going to snow tonight - Well I'll check to see if it happened 
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The locals always think it's going to 'snow tonight'! We get the same
thing in Taralga. It makes you wish you didn't know better (on the
occasions that you do) sometimes, it reminds me of the days when I
considered these things an exiting mystery rather than a percentage
probability...it used to snow more in those day too.

Andrew.


> macdonald wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Around 8:30 this morning Guyra had a brief snowfall. Jeff (Guyra
> Observer) said the snow lasted about 10 mins.  I have just phoned the
> Guyra Caravan Park, Doug said that it was wind,cold and fine. He said
> the locals think that it is going to snow tonight - Well I'll check to
> see if it happened tommorrow.
> 
> cheers
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Light snow here early this morning -- about 1cm on the ground now (10.30am)
melting. Oberon reported 4cm on the ground at 9am, light snow falling and
2mm in the raingauge. Past snow reported Orange, Lithgow, Taralga. Snowing
in the Snowies, where Perisher reported 50mm 24 hours to 9am, but
Crackenback only 5mm and Thredbo Village 19. In Victoria, no Bureau stations
away from the Alps reported snow, but Mt Buller had 36mm in the gauge with a
9am temp of -5.2, Falls Ck 8mm and -5.7 and Mt Hotham (summit) 2mm and -6.4.
In Tasmania there were reports to the Bureau of snow down to 350m.

The second weakening front is still looking pretty mean and nasty on the
satpix, roaring up to the west of Tassie. The more significant front will
move through Saturday as the very deep low SW of Tasmania now moving NE
brings the next surge of cold air over the southeast. After that, the models
are all still developing a further low in western Bass Strait on Tuesday to
bring further thicknesses in the low 530s across Victoria -- the EC actually
develops a secondary low well to the WSW of Tasmania on Monday night and
moves it NE to western Bass Strait by Tuesday night, then has it over
Victoria Wed night and off the NSW South Coast Thursday night!

Certainly looks like being an interesting week.

Laurier

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From: Andrew Boskell <a_boskell at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strahan Weather+Devonport
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G'day Chas,

Pretty much the same in Devonport last night - noticed
snow on the Dial Ranges, back of Penguin this morning!
Don't ya love winter!

Regards,

Andrew

 --- Chas & Helen Osborn <hosborn at tassie.net.au>
wrote: > Hello Everyone
> 
> It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been
> reported down to 300m. We
> have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See
> below.
> Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
> 
> Chas
> Strahan Tasmania
> 
> 
> TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
> 
> 
> CAPE SORELL
>  WIND: WSW  28KT
> Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
>  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
>  Period:  15 secs
> 
> MARRAWAH
>  WIND: WSW  32KT,
>  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
>  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
>  RECENT PRECIPITATION
> 
> CAPE GRIM
>  WIND: W    34KT
> 
> FLINDERS IS
>  WIND: WSW  42KT
> 
> MAATSUYKER IS
>  WIND: WNW  41KT,
>  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
>  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
>  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: current reports - Road
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HI all.

All roads are clear at this time, as reported by police.. No snow falling
Blayney or Oberon, although Oberon is very cold and possible snow again
tonight.
Dave




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Hi people well Winter has come to say goodbye :)

we had 6.5mm of rain yesterday and 2.5mm overnight with a tiny fall of white 
fluffy stuff, burrrr very cold this morning, wind chill factor of - 
something! You sure know it when you have to work at 7:30am.

Now what happened at wanthaggi? Was it a tornado? It was also very windy 
last night here too.

Currently there is a lull in the weather, although it is still cool to cold 
here and a little bit breezy, not as windy as last night, with mostly cloudy 
skyes, StratuCu.

But there is more to come sometime soon

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Les (Ballarat, not radar central) inquired:

> Now what happened at wanthaggi? Was it a tornado? It was also very windy 
> last night here too.

A spotter report this morning after 6am spoke of damage to a number
of houses in (or near) Wonthaggi (VIC).  Some of the BOM severe weather
people are inspecting the evidence today to decide on straight-line 
winds versus cold-season tornado as the cause for the damage.  

The Laverton radar reflectivity from this morning showed some fast-moving convective
cells going SW-NE,  but the radar did not scream "wow" at me.

Harald 

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Hello Everyone

There are now Storm Warnings out. These cover the north coast and around each
corner and the south coast and around each corner.

Chas
Strahan Tasmania

Initial  Storm Warning
For northern Tasmanian Coastal Waters between Sandy Cape and St Helens Point
and
for southern waters between Low Rocky Point and Southeast Cape.....

West to southwest winds 30 to 40 knots, turning west to northwesterly later
today then strengthening to 40 to 50 knots. Winds a little lighter at times
inshore about the central north. Seas 4 to 6 metres in open waters rising to 6

to 8 metres. Northwest to southwest swell 4 to 6 metres.

and

Renewal of  Gale Warning
For all remaining Coastal Waters

Andrew Boskell wrote:

> G'day Chas,
>
> Pretty much the same in Devonport last night - noticed
> snow on the Dial Ranges, back of Penguin this morning!
> Don't ya love winter!
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew
>
>  --- Chas & Helen Osborn <hosborn at tassie.net.au>
> wrote: > Hello Everyone
> >
> > It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been
> > reported down to 300m. We
> > have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> > Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See
> > below.
> > Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
> >
> > Chas
> > Strahan Tasmania
> >
> >
> > TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> > Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
> >
> >
> > CAPE SORELL
> >  WIND: WSW  28KT
> > Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
> >  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
> >  Period:  15 secs
> >
> > MARRAWAH
> >  WIND: WSW  32KT,
> >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
> >  RECENT PRECIPITATION
> >
> > CAPE GRIM
> >  WIND: W    34KT
> >
> > FLINDERS IS
> >  WIND: WSW  42KT
> >
> > MAATSUYKER IS
> >  WIND: WNW  41KT,
> >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
> >  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Last year I got to see falling molten metal just like you describe in the
main street of Glen Innes, during the TDU2K chase. Clyve was in his car just
ahead of mine and said his car was shaken by the shock wave. I saw the
molten metal drop just in front of my car, so I say Clyve was right under
the pole that was struck.

Michael






 The other spectacular effect is a great shower of molten metal falling
> past our windows - similar to someone welding just above - which I think
> is closely related to the fact that our building manager has to replace
> the lightning conductor rod quite frequently as it becomes too short to
> be safe.
From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au
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Subject: aus-wx: model discussion for NSW next week
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Hi all,

I find the latest discussion on long-range modelling very interesting.  Even
though I am still a newbie at 'the model game', I enjoy reading the
comparisons between the various models (MRF, AVN, GASP, NGP, EC, etc).

Anyhow, I've just been looking at GASP and MRF for next Tuesday.  MRF's
Tuesday 00Z plot shows the 535 line well about 35' south, would this mean
possible snow down to ~800m given the right conditions?  Even the 540 line
extends quite far north, it's impressive to see.

GASP on the other hand, seems to be holding back until the 12Z plot for
Wednesday, before releasing the tongue of colder air over the SE NSW area.
Am I reading this correctly? Is there a listing anywhere on the web that
compares the different models and outlines which are the strong&weak points
for each?  

Looking forward to some good discussion on this one.

Mal Ninnes
(Western Sydney)


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just skimmed through the 3pm bulliten and noticed 
Yass&nbsp;had Lightning under the current weather column...</FONT></DIV>
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Gale force W to SW winds expected to redevelop again Saturday morning in
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I've been meaning to ask. What is the wave rider? Is it a buoy or something
in the ocean that reads the highest waves etc? Thanks.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Hello Everyone
>
> It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been reported down to 300m. We
> have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See below.
> Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
>
> Chas
> Strahan Tasmania
>
>
> TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
>
>
> CAPE SORELL
>  WIND: WSW  28KT
> Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
>  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
>  Period:  15 secs
>
> MARRAWAH
>  WIND: WSW  32KT,
>  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
>  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
>  RECENT PRECIPITATION
>
> CAPE GRIM
>  WIND: W    34KT
>
> FLINDERS IS
>  WIND: WSW  42KT
>
> MAATSUYKER IS
>  WIND: WNW  41KT,
>  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
>  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
>  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
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> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                                   August 16, 2001
> 
> NASA SCIENTISTS BECOME HURRICANE CHASERS
> 
>      Scientists from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., will head into
> hurricanes this summer, hoping to improve predictions of these deadly storms by using
> new data-collecting technology.
> 
>      The four scientists are part of NASA's fourth Convection and Moisture Experiment,
> a massive field experiment based at Jacksonville Naval Station, Fla., from Aug.16 through
> Sept. 24.  Their instruments will be on two NASA aircraft as they fly over, through and
> around selected hurricanes in the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic.
> 
>      The goal of the experiment is to take the mystique out of hurricanes. By examining
> how a hurricane evolves and behaves, investigators hope to make possible more accurate,
> longer-range forecasts. Since evacuation is often the key to saving lives during a hurricane,
> researchers are paying special attention to a hurricane's behavior when it hits land.
> 
>      Participants in this year's Convection and Moisture Experiment from JPL include:
> 
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>      Monolithic Microwave Integrated Circuit Sounding Radiometer for this mission. An
>      advanced atmospheric microwave sounder, the instrument can "see" through clouds. On
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> 2 aircraft, a former U2 spy plane. From an altitude of about 20 kilometers (65,000 feet), it
> will scan the atmosphere below the plane from side to side with a searchlight-type beam
> and map the temperature, humidity and cloud distributions inside a hurricane.
> 
>      Lambrigtsen and his team will participate in all flights of the Earth Research-2
> craft. From their instrument's measurements, they will derive vertical profiles of
> temperature, water vapor and liquid water. They will also estimate rain rates and create an
> ice-particle scattering index, which will be used to develop a formula for calculating cloud
> ice. Co-investigators are Drs. Lance Riley and Evan Fishbein, also from JPL.
> 
>      -- Dr. Robert Herman, who will lead the JPL Laser Hygrometer team. The laser
> hygrometer is a miniature laser spectrometer for rapid measurements of water vapor.
> During this mission, the instrument will be mounted on a NASA DC-8 aircraft to measure
> water vapor as the airplane flies through tropical hurricanes. The data will help scientists
> understand just how much moisture the air can hold before ice clouds form. The instrument
> will also provide information on latent heat, the heat released when water condenses,
> which is an important energy source that drives storms. These data should provide a better
> understanding of the processes that regulate water in the atmosphere and tropical storms.
> 
>      -- Dr. Michael Mahoney, the principal investigator for the DC-8 Microwave
> Temperature Profiler and the Earth Research-2 Microwave Temperature Profiler. The
> instruments scan vertically in each aircraft's flight direction. Looking straight down,
> straight ahead and straight up, they measure temperature at different frequencies to create a
> complete temperature profile.
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> real-time and is updated every 15 seconds. An experimenter onboard the DC-8 can control
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> atmosphere is a vital part of hurricane research because it helps scientists understand the
> stability of the atmosphere. The instrument can also help pinpoint the exact location of the
> troposphere, the lower part of Earth's atmosphere. In addition, it can measure the flow of
> air parcels to determine if there are gravity waves in the atmosphere that could affect the
> level of ozone depletion.
> 
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> 
>      -- Dr. Eastwood Im, who will administer the Dual Frequency Airborne
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> of rainfall. Two crucial parts of the new instrument -- the pressure box and antenna -- are
> from a previous airborne radar developed by JPL, called Airborne Rain Mapping Radar.
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> frequencies, which will improve rainfall measurements, and can process data in real time.
> 
>      The instrument team plans to fly this radar in a rotating figure-four pattern across
> the rainstorm through the hurricane's eye, as well as through the rainbands at the storm's
> edge. Data collected will help determine rain rate, vertical motion and location of melting
> ice along the DC-8 flight track below the aircraft.
> 
>      The fourth Convection and Moisture Experiment is sponsored by NASA's Earth
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> National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Hurricane Research Division and the
> U.S. Weather Research Program.  JPL is a division of the California Institute of
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 					August 16, 2001 

NASA SCIENTISTS BECOME HURRICANE CHASERS

     Scientists from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., will head into 
hurricanes this summer, hoping to improve predictions of these deadly storms by using 
new data-collecting technology. 
 
     The four scientists are part of NASA's fourth Convection and Moisture Experiment, 
a massive field experiment based at Jacksonville Naval Station, Fla., from Aug.16 through 
Sept. 24.  Their instruments will be on two NASA aircraft as they fly over, through and 
around selected hurricanes in the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic. 

     The goal of the experiment is to take the mystique out of hurricanes. By examining 
how a hurricane evolves and behaves, investigators hope to make possible more accurate, 
longer-range forecasts. Since evacuation is often the key to saving lives during a hurricane, 
researchers are paying special attention to a hurricane's behavior when it hits land.

     Participants in this year's Convection and Moisture Experiment from JPL include:

     --Bjorn H. Lambrigtsen, who led the team that designed and built the High Altitude 
     Monolithic Microwave Integrated Circuit Sounding Radiometer for this mission. An 
     advanced atmospheric microwave sounder, the instrument can "see" through clouds. On 
     previous investigations of this project, two separate microwave sounders recorded 
     temperature and humidity. This new instrument, smaller and lighter than its predecessors, 
     will have the ability to do both.

     The radiometer will fly in one of the wing pods of the high-altitude Earth Research-
2 aircraft, a former U2 spy plane. From an altitude of about 20 kilometers (65,000 feet), it 
will scan the atmosphere below the plane from side to side with a searchlight-type beam 
and map the temperature, humidity and cloud distributions inside a hurricane.
 
     Lambrigtsen and his team will participate in all flights of the Earth Research-2 
craft. From their instrument's measurements, they will derive vertical profiles of 
temperature, water vapor and liquid water. They will also estimate rain rates and create an 
ice-particle scattering index, which will be used to develop a formula for calculating cloud 
ice. Co-investigators are Drs. Lance Riley and Evan Fishbein, also from JPL.  
  
     -- Dr. Robert Herman, who will lead the JPL Laser Hygrometer team. The laser 
hygrometer is a miniature laser spectrometer for rapid measurements of water vapor. 
During this mission, the instrument will be mounted on a NASA DC-8 aircraft to measure 
water vapor as the airplane flies through tropical hurricanes. The data will help scientists 
understand just how much moisture the air can hold before ice clouds form. The instrument 
will also provide information on latent heat, the heat released when water condenses, 
which is an important energy source that drives storms. These data should provide a better 
understanding of the processes that regulate water in the atmosphere and tropical storms.  

     -- Dr. Michael Mahoney, the principal investigator for the DC-8 Microwave 
Temperature Profiler and the Earth Research-2 Microwave Temperature Profiler. The 
instruments scan vertically in each aircraft's flight direction. Looking straight down, 
straight ahead and straight up, they measure temperature at different frequencies to create a 
complete temperature profile. 

     On the DC-8, the Microwave Temperature Profiler displays air temperature data in 
real-time and is updated every 15 seconds. An experimenter onboard the DC-8 can control 
this real-time data and provide it to scientists immediately. The temperature profile of the 
atmosphere is a vital part of hurricane research because it helps scientists understand the 
stability of the atmosphere. The instrument can also help pinpoint the exact location of the 
troposphere, the lower part of Earth's atmosphere. In addition, it can measure the flow of 
air parcels to determine if there are gravity waves in the atmosphere that could affect the 
level of ozone depletion. 
 
     On the Earth Research-2 aircraft, the microwave temperature profiler operates 
autonomously, and the data is processed later.

     -- Dr. Eastwood Im, who will administer the Dual Frequency Airborne 
Precipitation Radar, an airborne dual-frequency radar that will measure the 3-D structure 
of rainfall. Two crucial parts of the new instrument -- the pressure box and antenna -- are 
from a previous airborne radar developed by JPL, called Airborne Rain Mapping Radar. 
The new instrument is an improvement over the earlier radar because it has two 
frequencies, which will improve rainfall measurements, and can process data in real time. 

     The instrument team plans to fly this radar in a rotating figure-four pattern across 
the rainstorm through the hurricane's eye, as well as through the rainbands at the storm's 
edge. Data collected will help determine rain rate, vertical motion and location of melting 
ice along the DC-8 flight track below the aircraft. 

     The fourth Convection and Moisture Experiment is sponsored by NASA's Earth 
Science Enterprise.  These investigations will be conducted in collaboration with the 
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Hurricane Research Division and the 
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From: "Andrew" <macca_wx at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Wind warnings in Vic
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 19:46:45 +1000
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><U>Storm </U></STRONG>wind warnings for 
<STRONG><U>ALL</U></STRONG> Victorian coastal waters and land gale warnings for 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Storm winds = sustained winds of greater than 
40knts.&nbsp; BoM have said winds to 45knts on Port Phillip Bay tomorrow with 
waves to 3 metres - not too bad for a fairly small area of water.&nbsp; Coastal 
waters have 50knts with higher gusts in squalls forecast.&nbsp; Local hail and 
thunder also forecast for southern and mountain areas.&nbsp; Should be an 
interesting night tonight and day tomorrow.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wonthaggi and the Mornington Peninsula copped a 
hammering last night with winds of up to 130kmh tearing roofs off houses.&nbsp; 
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From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
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It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what looks like
a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass Strait).
There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning tracker has
numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a storm
warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The squall line
is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your hats :)

Nick

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Hi nick, and all.

Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg

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> It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what looks
like
> a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass Strait).
> There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning tracker has
> numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a storm
> warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The squall line
> is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your hats :)
>
> Nick
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From: "Dean McWhinney" <mcwhinneyd at optushome.com.au>
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Wouldnt it be more likely a Roll cloud or am i dreaming :)
just a thought thatnks CYA!
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> Hi nick, and all.
>
> Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
> http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg
>
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> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
>
>
> > It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what looks
> like
> > a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass
Strait).
> > There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning tracker
has
> > numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a storm
> > warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The squall
line
> > is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your hats
:)
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Roll cloud ? err.. no dean... look at tracker, radar, sat pics, there are storms
with this change.
Its too windy for a roll cloud , would tear apart in the winds they are getting
down their :)
Enjoy the weather vic's !
Back to the cricket

Matt Smith

Dean McWhinney wrote:

> Wouldnt it be more likely a Roll cloud or am i dreaming :)
> just a thought thatnks CYA!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simon Angell <simon at winnet.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
>
> > Hi nick, and all.
> >
> > Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
> > http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> >
> >
> > > It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what looks
> > like
> > > a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass
> Strait).
> > > There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning tracker
> has
> > > numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a storm
> > > warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The squall
> line
> > > is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your hats
> :)
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Dean, and all
possibly, actually more likely to be, as i don't think Squall lines would be
that big, because this thing is massive, could it be a pre-frontal storm,
riding the "shockwave" of the approaching (2nd) front.

Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
Currently, windy 4.5*c, no rain yet......
www.geocities.com/simon_tdu2001/

----- Original Message -----
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic


> Wouldnt it be more likely a Roll cloud or am i dreaming :)
> just a thought thatnks CYA!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Simon Angell <simon at winnet.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:42 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
>
>
> > Hi nick, and all.
> >
> > Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
> > http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> >
> >
> > > It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what
looks
> > like
> > > a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass
> Strait).
> > > There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning tracker
> has
> > > numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a storm
> > > warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The squall
> line
> > > is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your hats
> :)
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
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On Fri, 17 Aug 2001, Matthew Smith wrote:

> 
> Roll cloud ? err.. no dean... look at tracker, radar, sat pics, there are storms
> with this change.

It was looking juicy on the vic IR earlier on:
http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_17/vicirAug17-2240.gif

Some hours earlier, the system looked good in the southern ocean:
http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/AA20575.gif


Cheers

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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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err. it was ment to read.................
 Dean, and all
 possibly, its actually more likely to be, (as i don't think Squall lines
would be
 that big, because this thing is massive,) a pre-frontal storm system,
 riding the "shockwave" of the approaching (2nd) front.

 Simon Angell
 Canberra ACT
 Currently, windy 4.5*c, no rain yet......
 www.geocities.com/simon_tdu2001/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic


> Dean, and all
> possibly, actually more likely to be, as i don't think Squall lines would
be
> that big, because this thing is massive, could it be a pre-frontal storm,
> riding the "shockwave" of the approaching (2nd) front.
>
> Simon Angell
> Canberra ACT
> Currently, windy 4.5*c, no rain yet......
> www.geocities.com/simon_tdu2001/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean McWhinney" <mcwhinneyd at optushome.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
>
>
> > Wouldnt it be more likely a Roll cloud or am i dreaming :)
> > just a thought thatnks CYA!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Simon Angell <simon at winnet.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> >
> >
> > > Hi nick, and all.
> > >
> > > Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
> > > http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> > >
> > >
> > > > It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what
> looks
> > > like
> > > > a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass
> > Strait).
> > > > There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning
tracker
> > has
> > > > numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a
storm
> > > > warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The
squall
> > line
> > > > is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your
hats
> > :)
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
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Thanks fir the clarification LOL im a newbie OK!
:)
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic


>
> Roll cloud ? err.. no dean... look at tracker, radar, sat pics, there are
storms
> with this change.
> Its too windy for a roll cloud , would tear apart in the winds they are
getting
> down their :)
> Enjoy the weather vic's !
> Back to the cricket
>
> Matt Smith
>
> Dean McWhinney wrote:
>
> > Wouldnt it be more likely a Roll cloud or am i dreaming :)
> > just a thought thatnks CYA!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Simon Angell <simon at winnet.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> >
> > > Hi nick, and all.
> > >
> > > Looks like a massive squall line approching, look at this....
> > > http://www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/rad002.jpg
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 8:57 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Squall Line Approahing Vic
> > >
> > >
> > > > It looks like another eventful night ahead for Victoria with what
looks
> > > like
> > > > a squall line developing along the front to the SW (Western Bass
> > Strait).
> > > > There is now a nice line of Cb's on the sat pic and lightning
tracker
> > has
> > > > numerous strikes (very good for winter). As already mentioned, a
storm
> > > > warning (winds 50knots) is current for Vic coastal waters. The
squall
> > line
> > > > is just coming into view on radar now. Victorians, hold onto your
hats
> > :)
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
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Hi All.

Those of you who may be curious about long range weather forcasting will
find this interesting - I have uploaded all 46 back issues of NZ long range
weather forecaster Ken Ring's weather ezines at:
http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ezines/ezineindex.htm (with his
permission to do so). Each issue has a set of topic links near the top of
the page to make navigating it all more convenient.

If you read through these you will find lots of fascinating (and at times
quite unconventional) information about all sorts of subjects including
many clues on his methods of predicting when severe weather events are
likely to break out.

He bases his forecasts on the lunar cycle, and notes particularly times
where the Moon is at perigee (closest to the Earth in it's monthly cycle),
and whether or not this occurs near the time of a Full or New Moon, and
whether or not it is near it's maximum northern or southern declination. He
says that a combination of two of these can generate outbreaks of severe
weather and a combination of all three is a recipe for weather disasters
and earthquakes.

There are many other pointers for predicting weather conditions, some
interesting email discussions with meteorologists and others, lots of stuff
on the 'global warming' debate, links to quite a few interesting and/or
unusual websites, etc..

I am keeping an open mind on this subject, and am looking foreward to
seeing how useful or otherwise these methods may prove to be over time.

Regards,
Carl.

~~~~~~~~~~
Carl Smith.
Gold Coast.
Queensland.
Australia.

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Subject: aus-wx: NE moving system
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That so called "squall line" in previous emails is 
moving rapidly NE'ly Mt Buller will be recieving the outer edges shortly, if it 
continues it will hit NSW alps by 6am, and then over canberra at around the same 
time. Although it has weekend it doesn't seem to breaking up all that 
much...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon Angell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canberra ACT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently 4.9*c and VERY windy,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and the've shifted from NNW to W</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:20 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: NE moving system</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That so called "squall line" in previous emails 
  is moving rapidly NE'ly Mt Buller will be recieving the outer edges shortly, 
  if it continues it will hit NSW alps by 6am, and then over canberra at around 
  the same time. Although it has weekend it doesn't seem to breaking up all that 
  much...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon Angell</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canberra ACT</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently 4.9*c and VERY windy,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>current obs for canberra AWS winds 20knts gusting 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>its breaking up....... still going to get windy 
again....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Although the winds have died off in the past 
15mins, now the gusts are about the same strength as the winds were before, im 
thinking around 15 to 20knts gusts ATM.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=simon at winnet.com.au href="mailto:simon at winnet.com.au">Simon 
  Angell</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 18, 2001 2:20 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: NE moving system</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That so called "squall line" in previous emails 
  is moving rapidly NE'ly Mt Buller will be recieving the outer edges shortly, 
  if it continues it will hit NSW alps by 6am, and then over canberra at around 
  the same time. Although it has weekend it doesn't seem to breaking up all that 
  much...</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon Angell</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canberra ACT</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Currently 4.9*c and VERY windy,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>current obs for canberra AWS winds 20knts gusting 
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Hello Bussie

The wave rider is a metal buoy about 1m in diameter that has electronic
equipment in it that measures movement (This bit I don't understand maybe
someone might have a simple explanation for it). It has a low powered HF radio
that is received out at the weather station at the airport. A reading is sent
every half hour. The buoy is replaced every six months to replenish the
batteries. The main faults with the system is the land based equipment which
lately has had a few outs. There are a number off Queensland as well I
understand it helps with protecting the beaches in the SE.
It measures height  of waves and time interval.

We had another wild night (now 5am). Just had another squally shower with hail.
We hope to go snow chasing today!

Chas
Strahan Tasmania

Bussie wrote:

> I've been meaning to ask. What is the wave rider? Is it a buoy or something
> in the ocean that reads the highest waves etc? Thanks.
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:27 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Weather
>
> > Hello Everyone
> >
> > It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been reported down to 300m. We
> > have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> > Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See below.
> > Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
> >
> > Chas
> > Strahan Tasmania
> >
> >
> > TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> > Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
> >
> >
> > CAPE SORELL
> >  WIND: WSW  28KT
> > Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
> >  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
> >  Period:  15 secs
> >
> > MARRAWAH
> >  WIND: WSW  32KT,
> >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
> >  RECENT PRECIPITATION
> >
> > CAPE GRIM
> >  WIND: W    34KT
> >
> > FLINDERS IS
> >  WIND: WSW  42KT
> >
> > MAATSUYKER IS
> >  WIND: WNW  41KT,
> >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
> >  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
> >
> >
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The World (the folks who host this mailing list) have posted a notice that
all incoming and out going mail temporarily unavailable due to a system
upgrade of mail services , starting at 02:00 20-Aug-2001 UTC. They haven't
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Hail, frequent showers, squally cold wind, camera in hand, bring it on!! NICK S 
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> Pretty much the same in Devonport last night - noticed
> snow on the Dial Ranges, back of Penguin this morning!
> Don't ya love winter!
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrew

 On the weather observations page for Tasmania, where is the Devonport East
station?. It always seems to be a lot colder there, so it must be
signicantly higher above sea level. From what I've personally seen of
Devonport township, the hills to the east don't seem nearly high enough for
the difference in temperature between Devonport East and Devonport itself.
Is the station somewhere back in the mountains?.

 BTW, the central North Island is cleaning up after the recent snowstorm.
The snow depths in the lower parts of the area (500 - 800 metres asl) have
been in the 15 - 45 cm range, which is pretty heavy even for a region used
to significant winter snowfalls. Snow in this area is probably as common as
in the higher parts of the NSW central tablelands (eg Oberon), although
we're more likely to get snow outside the winter months. How often would you
get 20 - 40 cm in those NSW tablelands?. Anyway, a northwesterly flow show
predominate over NZ this weekend and early next week helping thaw out the
central North Island, and hopefully getting some rain into the southern
hydro lakes.

Ben
Christchurch
NZ

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Windy here in the Hunter this morning, gusting to around 40-45 knots,
will go to the beach shortly with the kestral !

Matt Smith

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<DIV>Hi all, some strong winds in the Hunter at the moment.&nbsp; Not much 
activity last night but increasing as the day is progressing.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Must have been power outages in the area as well as 
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:43:46 +1000
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Hi all 

At the moment no snow in Oberon, was snowing lightly earlier this
morning..  

Will advise of any changes later in day. 

Dave
Bathurst
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Gale force winds in Illawarra
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Winds this morning peaked at around 50 knots, but I would not be surprised
to see some 60 knot gusts.

I took a couple of pictures of Lake Illawarra, go to

http://ozthunder.com/diary/w2001.htm

Just after I took this photo a strong gust about 3km north over the lake
lifted a column of spray about 50m into the air.

Michael Thompson
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Carolyn and others,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just this morning we have had a max wind gust of 62 
knts here on the flood plains of Morpeth. It is the strongest wind gust I have 
recorded yet in the last 4 years. Just before 1pm it was averaging at 43 knts, 
but has eased a little since then.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The paddocks are becoming a mess with debris of 
trees and haysheds scattered in places. We have had black outs a few times this 
morning.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>-------------------------------<BR>Tim Grugeon<BR>Maitland, NSW<BR><A 
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  activity last night but increasing as the day is progressing.&nbsp; </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Must have been power outages in the area as well 
  as my isp was down between 8.00am and 10pm.</FONT></DIV>
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Tasmanian Report:

Snow has fallen to around 200m although Sleet/Snow has fallen into Hobart 
right to the docks. Around 7 inches at around 500m, windy and wet, max 5.1 
so far according to my thermometer in Hobart.


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>Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:43:46 +1000
>
>Hi all
>
>At the moment no snow in Oberon, was snowing lightly earlier this
>morning..
>
>Will advise of any changes later in day.
>
>Dave
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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Victorian report:

Went on a bit of a tour this morning after I noticed 'fat' rain (ie:
rain which has melted from either hail or snow) at my place (100m ASL).
Mt Dandenong first (600m) - got hail, sleet & rain all mixed in
together. Reported this to the BoM who'd been looking out the window
wondering about the snow line from this particular cloud......

Thence to Mt Donna Buang (1250m) near Warburton in the Yarra Valley.
Couldn't bring myself to pay $5.50 just to look at a lot of snow, when
I'd already been snowed on at the turnoff (which from memory is ~750 -
800m) so I parked on the side of the road & got sleeted (temp was 5.3C)
& snowed upon twice (temp 2.8C). Snow was lying in patches to less than
750m & the best falls were overnight.

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
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ASWA - Victoria
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> Tasmanian Report:
>
> Snow has fallen to around 200m although Sleet/Snow has fallen into
Hobart
> right to the docks. Around 7 inches at around 500m, windy and wet, max
5.1
> so far according to my thermometer in Hobart.
>
>
> >From: David Carroll <davidkc at hotkey.net.au>
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> >Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 10:43:46 +1000
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >At the moment no snow in Oberon, was snowing lightly earlier this
> >morning..
> >
> >Will advise of any changes later in day.
> >
> >Dave
> >Bathurst
> >
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 15:12:56 +1000
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NSW Wind Warning for Land Areas
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1204 on Saturday the 18th of August 2001
Damaging gale force NW to SW winds are occurring in the following
weather
forecast districts and are expected to continue this afternoon.

SYDNEY METROPOLITAN
ILLAWARRA
SOUTH COAST
CENTRAL TABLELANDS
HUNTER
SOUTH WEST SLOPES [higher parts only]
SOUTHERN TABLELANDS

People are advised to secure loose items and keep away from fallen trees
and
power lines.

If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500
for
emergency assistance.
From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au
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Yep, I spoke to Jimmy Deguara around lunchtime today and he confirmed snow
on the ground in Oberon this morning, only light cover though.

Any more reports of snow in the Blue Mountains today?

Mal Ninnes
(Western Sydney)


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Hi all 

At the moment no snow in Oberon, was snowing lightly earlier this
morning..  

Will advise of any changes later in day. 

Dave
Bathurst
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Tim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In Cessnock the winds have died down a bit, but it 
is still very windy.&nbsp; One of the higher branches of the gum tree outside my 
house broke while I was shopping about midday.&nbsp; There is alot of tree 
debris around the neighbourhood as well.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just this morning we have had a max wind gust of 
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  have recorded yet in the last 4 years. Just before 1pm it was averaging at 43 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The paddocks are becoming a mess with debris of 
  trees and haysheds scattered in places. We have had black outs a few times 
  this morning.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 17:36:55 +1000
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Hi all,

Can I make a modification to Mal's report. I would describe the scene as 
some heavy showers of snow but breaks came through not allowing snow to 
settle. However, snow either from the previous couple of days (and/or early 
this morning) still lay in patches protected such as fence lines, gutters 
and on the leeward side of hills. This mainly occurred at elevations 1100m 
and above and only around the Oberon region west and south.

Today's snow chase was a test to see what happens under certain conditions. 
The models to me favoured the time period between 10am and 1pm. A thermal 
trough was to lag behind the main change meaning some of the coldest air 
came through at that time. And this was what happened. Some heavy snow 
showers but nothing spectacular - each one was brief 5 to 10 minutes. 
Anywhere from Oberon to Black Springs and those elevations copped snow. I 
again noticed these rice sized balls of ice. Can anyone comment on what 
this is - hail? It tends to occur just below the snow line and/or after 
some of the snow has gone through. A few patches of these occurred today.

Anyway, a good day to start training for the season's chasing.

Jimmy Deguara

At 03:58 PM 8/18/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Yep, I spoke to Jimmy Deguara around lunchtime today and he confirmed snow
>on the ground in Oberon this morning, only light cover though.
>
>Any more reports of snow in the Blue Mountains today?
>
>Mal Ninnes
>(Western Sydney)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Carroll [mailto:davidkc at hotkey.net.au]
>Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2001 10:44
>To: Aussie Weather
>Subject: aus-wx: snow report
>
>
>Hi all
>
>At the moment no snow in Oberon, was snowing lightly earlier this
>morning..
>
>Will advise of any changes later in day.
>
>Dave
>Bathurst
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I was at the Gabba in Brisbane(brisbanites will know where this is) yesterday 
and today and the winds have been absolutely freezing. Anyone know if the 
winds are going to abate tommorrow? Thanks,

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Further to Jimmy Deguara's Oberon chase report today, concerning the
 rice ice phenomenon, I sent Jimmy my thoughts, and he suggested I
post
 them to the group for discussion.  So, the original message is as:--

Quote:

Pure speculation on my part Jimmy, but this might be thought provoking
for you.  I have seen what you mentioned a number of times before,
years ago, when rallying up in Jenolan State Forest area, and under
similar weather conditions.

My theory is that these rice ice pellets may be formed from the tail
end of a snow shower, where the smallest and slowest falling flakes
are held up a bit and have time to just melt, ie, at low levels near
the ground when the temps are just above freezing, probably in the
valleys BELOW YOU.  When it is very windy, in hilly areas, such as up
there, before they can fall out as rain drops, they get blown back up
a bit in height, in the swirling winds and turbulence up the gullies
and off the hills etc, just high enough to freeze.  Then, as ice
pellets, they fall out.  I don't know what the professional
meteorologists would think of that theory, but I have seen it happen a
couple of times, and the common factors are, (a) light flurries of
snow first, (b) near freezing temps at ground level, but over zero,
(c) significant winds with big gusts, ie, >20knots and >40 knots
respectively, and (d) in hilly terrain, in all cases with significant
valleys, with ridges more or less parallel to the wind, likely to
generate considerable windward side upward flow, turbulence at the top
at ground level, with possible rotor above, (e) occurs 2 to 5 minutes
post snow / strongest gusts - ie, there is a "delay" before rice ice
pellet deposition occurs, which is a usually brief occurrence, less
than a minute, but surprisingly many of them, sort of like a shower,
all of a sudden.

It is a pity you did not collect some and break them open and examine
them with a magnifying glass.  If you did, and if they did not have
any layering structure internally, I might be right, ie, a single
freeze and fall cycle.  If on the other hand they do have a layer
structure, they might have done two or more round trips past freezing
level and back again.  In hilly areas with strong winds and
significant turbulence I suppose that is still possible, especially
since they are so small, meaning their fall speed would probably be
less than 5m/sec, which is 10knots, ie, 1,000 feet per minute.  The
vertical winds are much greater than that, so updraft support is not a
problem or limitation to the theory.  Indeed, given the high winds and
orographically generated updrafts and low level rotors, the
preconditions for such a formation cycle are more than favourable I
think.

Perhaps we could brief all weather watchers / chasers in these areas
up there on the idea, and have them carry a magnifying glass and a
knife, and a camera with a macro / close up lens if they have one. 
You never know, we could discover something new for the experts,
especially if they could document the immediate wind profile somehow,
both horizontally and vertically.   Comments ?

PC
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We experience this quite regularly in Taralga. As Peter has mentioned,
it is often at the tail end of short, sharp shower of sleet. The
short-term temperature always bottoms out at that point too, which may
have something to do with the downdraft having been increased - or maybe
it's just that that is the longest time the sun has been hidden before
it reappears.

Andrew.


Peter Creswick wrote:
> 
> Further to Jimmy Deguara's Oberon chase report today, concerning the
>  rice ice phenomenon, I sent Jimmy my thoughts, and he suggested I
> post
>  them to the group for discussion.  So, the original message is as:--
> 
> Quote:
> 
> Pure speculation on my part Jimmy, but this might be thought provoking
> for you.  I have seen what you mentioned a number of times before,
> years ago, when rallying up in Jenolan State Forest area, and under
> similar weather conditions.
> 
> My theory is that these rice ice pellets may be formed from the tail
> end of a snow shower, where the smallest and slowest falling flakes
> are held up a bit and have time to just melt, ie, at low levels near
> the ground when the temps are just above freezing, probably in the
> valleys BELOW YOU.  When it is very windy, in hilly areas, such as up
> there, before they can fall out as rain drops, they get blown back up
> a bit in height, in the swirling winds and turbulence up the gullies
> and off the hills etc, just high enough to freeze.  Then, as ice
> pellets, they fall out.  I don't know what the professional
> meteorologists would think of that theory, but I have seen it happen a
> couple of times, and the common factors are, (a) light flurries of
> snow first, (b) near freezing temps at ground level, but over zero,
> (c) significant winds with big gusts, ie, >20knots and >40 knots
> respectively, and (d) in hilly terrain, in all cases with significant
> valleys, with ridges more or less parallel to the wind, likely to
> generate considerable windward side upward flow, turbulence at the top
> at ground level, with possible rotor above, (e) occurs 2 to 5 minutes
> post snow / strongest gusts - ie, there is a "delay" before rice ice
> pellet deposition occurs, which is a usually brief occurrence, less
> than a minute, but surprisingly many of them, sort of like a shower,
> all of a sudden.
> 
> It is a pity you did not collect some and break them open and examine
> them with a magnifying glass.  If you did, and if they did not have
> any layering structure internally, I might be right, ie, a single
> freeze and fall cycle.  If on the other hand they do have a layer
> structure, they might have done two or more round trips past freezing
> level and back again.  In hilly areas with strong winds and
> significant turbulence I suppose that is still possible, especially
> since they are so small, meaning their fall speed would probably be
> less than 5m/sec, which is 10knots, ie, 1,000 feet per minute.  The
> vertical winds are much greater than that, so updraft support is not a
> problem or limitation to the theory.  Indeed, given the high winds and
> orographically generated updrafts and low level rotors, the
> preconditions for such a formation cycle are more than favourable I
> think.
> 
> Perhaps we could brief all weather watchers / chasers in these areas
> up there on the idea, and have them carry a magnifying glass and a
> knife, and a camera with a macro / close up lens if they have one.
> You never know, we could discover something new for the experts,
> especially if they could document the immediate wind profile somehow,
> both horizontally and vertically.   Comments ?
> 
> PC
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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 06:39:21 +1000
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Hello Everyone

Another cold front about to cross us wind WNW 24/34knots pressure
993.8hpa.

Yesterday I photographed the back of a cell  as it moved through.
Have a look at

http://www.geocities.com/chasosborn/weather.html?998166379270

Chas
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Hi every1,

After a few fogs last week I got to wondering why it is that you can see 
further in rain (which has large water droplets) compared to fog which has 
water droplets thousands of times smaller...

Is it because there are more droplets in cloud than rain or is that the size 
of the droplets in fog causes more scattering of light? (Or is it something 
altogether different?)

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Nice shot! I wish we saw that type of thing here.

Andrew.

Chas & Helen Osborn wrote:
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> Hello Everyone
> 
> Another cold front about to cross us wind WNW 24/34knots pressure
> 993.8hpa.
> 
> Yesterday I photographed the back of a cell  as it moved through.
> Have a look at
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/chasosborn/weather.html?998166379270
> 
> Chas
> Strahan Tasmania
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Great shot,  the rainbow top seems to almost perfectly measure the snow
level, coincidence or is there are more scientific answer.

Michael


> > Yesterday I photographed the back of a cell  as it moved through.
> > Have a look at
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/chasosborn/weather.html?998166379270



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Is that a 400 mile long squall line approaching Melbourne/southern Victoria
at about 1700?
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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I think I've asked this before. How does snow show on the radar?
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Bussie,

Snow usually gives low echos so it's the darker (lighter precip rate) of
the two light blues on BoM radar.

From experience: When snow is falling a medium distance away from the
radar site it generally shows up as scattered bits of light blue jumping
all over the place on the loop - you wouldn't make much of it if you
didn't know better.

I have, however seen radar while snow was falling at Robertson which is
relatively close to the Sydney radar which showed it as solid light blue
so, it looks like light rain when near that radar site but echos much
less than rain when you get further away.

Andrew.


Bussie wrote:
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> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Yes Bussie, by 6 pm it had dropped 10 mm on Grovedale (Geelong).  Earlier we
had gusts over 70 kph.  Lindsay Smail.

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Is that a 400 mile long squall line approaching Melbourne/southern Victoria
at about 1700?
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
silence is a worry. Or perhaps the board is plain slow again ?

Michael Thompson
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The type of cloud is also important. Your atypical snow cloud often hugs the
ground and barely shows on radar. If however the snow is from cold CB's then
it shows much better.

Michael

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> Bussie,
>
> Snow usually gives low echos so it's the darker (lighter precip rate) of
> the two light blues on BoM radar.
>
> From experience: When snow is falling a medium distance away from the
> radar site it generally shows up as scattered bits of light blue jumping
> all over the place on the loop - you wouldn't make much of it if you
> didn't know better.
>
> I have, however seen radar while snow was falling at Robertson which is
> relatively close to the Sydney radar which showed it as solid light blue
> so, it looks like light rain when near that radar site but echos much
> less than rain when you get further away.
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> Bussie wrote:
> >
> > I think I've asked this before. How does snow show on the radar?
> > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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I think the Victorians are busy having 3 months of winter in one week!

Definately a nice line radar wise - according to some of the folks in
#Weather some nice squally winds, horrizontal rain and thunder
accompanied it.

AC

Michael Thompson wrote:
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> Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
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From: "Mark Hardy" <mhardy at magna.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fog question...
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 20:22:43 +1000
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Kevin
You are right in concluding the reduction in visibility is due to the
number of drops. Thicker fog has more droplets than thinner fog.

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Hi every1,

After a few fogs last week I got to wondering why it is that you can see

further in rain (which has large water droplets) compared to fog which
has 
water droplets thousands of times smaller...

Is it because there are more droplets in cloud than rain or is that the
size 
of the droplets in fog causes more scattering of light? (Or is it
something 
altogether different?)

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

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I've been out for most of the day & been watching this head norteast
while checking out the isolated tree damage from the other night etc
etc...got home at 7.15pm just in time for isolated lightning here & 6mm
of rain so far.

Jane
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> Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
> silence is a worry. Or perhaps the board is plain slow again ?
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Brief Storm/Melbourne
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Hey all


Just had a brief storm in Ferntree Gully, the FTG on Melbourne local. There
was about 4 flashes of lightning, a spectacular CG/Crawler and some thunder.
Thats about it, but sure got me excited. With the squall line there was some
brief very heavy rain and some stong gusts.

Cured the SDS for a bit.

Bring on the front, cold pool to the SW :)

Nick Sykes

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Hi Michael and all,

The third active cold front in just 4 days has just finished tracking across
Melbourne and although today's ceratinly looked great on radar, I think
Friday nights front takes the cake.  Winds gusted up to 86knts (160km/h)
across Victoria with the passage of Friday's front with frequent lightning
reported in Bass Strait with and following the front (there were also some
infrequent flashes of lightning around the suburbs of Melbourne).  I heard
reports of wind gusts to 64knts (120km/h) at Airey's Inlet (enough to pick
up an outdoor chair and land it on the windscreen of a friends car -
cracking the windscreen) and I had winds gusting to 45knts here with some
awesome rain.  Lots of tree damage around Melbourne from the strong winds.

Tonights front seemed to be best on radar down near Geelong yet I think the
only lightning active area was over the eastern suburbs of Melbourne near
FTG on the radar.  Winds gusted to about 25knts here with it and some nice
moderate rain too but nothing like Friday night's front.

The frequent strong winds have whipped up HUGE seas of the SW coast of
Victoria with Cape Otway reporting 7 metre seas for 3 days now!!!!  With the
wind tending WNW'ly or NW"ly ahead of each front, the surf has, at times,
been epic along the Surf Coast with Bells Beach scoring 3 days in a row of
6ft+ swells and perfect offshore winds (swell peaked at 10ft on Thursday
before the front).

Regards,

Andrew McDonald


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> Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
> silence is a worry. Or perhaps the board is plain slow again ?
>
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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Do you still have the first weather picture that you ever took?  Digging
around & looking for a completely different picture, I came across the
first 2 weather pix I took with my first camera - an old secondhand
Kodak.  The image on the left was looking to the NW in September 1974
(eek!!  27 years ago) and the colour one was looking SW from the same
spot in Deakin in February 1975.
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/1stpics.JPG


I think my photography skills have improved since then........
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02777.JPG

Jane

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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney chase 14th August
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Full size images (including a stitched 3 shot pan from Sydney through
the east to Wollongong - many thanks to Anthony Cornelius for his skills
here) are now up for my Sydney chase from Cronulla to Stanwell Park -
analysis & radar will be available soon as well as the words that go
with the pictures later this week - time permitting.

Many thanks to Matt Smith for his updates during the morning.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/14_08_01.htm


Jane
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Is that first picture in black and white ? No colour film wayyyy back then I
guess.  ;)

Matt Smith

Jane ONeill wrote:

> Do you still have the first weather picture that you ever took?  Digging
> around & looking for a completely different picture, I came across the
> first 2 weather pix I took with my first camera - an old secondhand
> Kodak.  The image on the left was looking to the NW in September 1974
> (eek!!  27 years ago) and the colour one was looking SW from the same
> spot in Deakin in February 1975.
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/1stpics.JPG
>
> I think my photography skills have improved since then........
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02777.JPG
>
> Jane
>
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> cadence at stormchasers.au.com
>
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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 21:40:37 +1000
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Hi all.
Well I'm getting sick of all these active full blown cold fronts that have
started to show up across Victoria, bring back the stratocu and allow me to
get some sleep, I think I will be a nervous wreck by the end of the week
with at least another 2 active fronts due over the next three days. Its
getting very difficult down here with sleet hail thunder 100k+ wind gusts
and low pressure, need I go on?, look at today, do I have to tell you and
everybody what's it like organising a birthday party with such weather
conditions, I couldn't concentrate for more than 5 minutes without running
to have a look out of the west window!.With the third active cold front in
almost as many days arriving at 6.10pm tonight with 80kph winds torrential
rain and spray being blown about tree branches flying hail bouncing!, then
followed by a similar barrage from my good wife for ignoring our birthdays
guests....its so difficult here in Victoria at the moment I don't think I
can stand another active cold front......well one more maybe.....best wishes
Clyve Herbert.
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> Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
> silence is a worry. Or perhaps the board is plain slow again ?
>
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Yep Matt - that was B/W but I was lazy & scanned both of them in colour.

Jane

PS: you'll keep <g>


>
> Is that first picture in black and white ? No colour film wayyyy back
then I
> guess.  ;)
>
> Matt Smith
>
> Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> > Do you still have the first weather picture that you ever took?
Digging
> > around & looking for a completely different picture, I came across
the
> > first 2 weather pix I took with my first camera - an old secondhand
> > Kodak.  The image on the left was looking to the NW in September
1974
> > (eek!!  27 years ago) and the colour one was looking SW from the
same
> > spot in Deakin in February 1975.
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/1stpics.JPG
> >
> > I think my photography skills have improved since then........
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02777.JPG
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
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> > cadence at stormchasers.au.com
> >
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> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
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Anyone watching the cricket? Storms approaching the ground, and the hair
of one of the bowlers was standing on end, after that they took the
players off the field.... what about the crowd !! oh well. Ive only
experienced that once, with Jimmy and Michael bath on my 1st storm chase
to the Moree area.
Anyway if your up, tune into the cricket on 7 for a storm :)

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http://www.miami.com/herald/special/features/barry/2001/docs/hurr0811.htm

A bit of humour for you all... 

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The commentator mentioned "There's a bit of electricity around" - and
then they showed an image of one of the players' hair standing on end -
I nearly died!!!  If that ever happened to me like that in the open, I'd
be moving very quickly and praying hard...

AC

Matthew Smith wrote:
> 
> Anyone watching the cricket? Storms approaching the ground, and the hair
> of one of the bowlers was standing on end, after that they took the
> players off the field.... what about the crowd !! oh well. Ive only
> experienced that once, with Jimmy and Michael bath on my 1st storm chase
> to the Moree area.
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Hi Matt.
There was a nice shot of a magnificent and huge congesting cu on one seen it
looked great and ready to glaciate. regards Clyve H.
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>
> Anyone watching the cricket? Storms approaching the ground, and the hair
> of one of the bowlers was standing on end, after that they took the
> players off the field.... what about the crowd !! oh well. Ive only
> experienced that once, with Jimmy and Michael bath on my 1st storm chase
> to the Moree area.
> Anyway if your up, tune into the cricket on 7 for a storm :)
>
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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On <A 
href="http://beta.weatherzone.com.au">http://beta.weatherzone.com.au</A> under 
breaking weather it say's "low level snowfalls on th way", im just wondering for 
what area this is for...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Also, Canberra (my part)&nbsp;recieved some sleet 
falls lasting 3 hours, between 3pm and 6pm, with it being blown in off the 
brindabellas,&nbsp;&nbsp;which were obscured by cloud, and presumably Snow.... . 
At the time i was&nbsp;just starting work, and the temp was 8.2*c, once it 
started sleeting the temp dropped at least 3 degrees or more, and every second 
customer was suddenly a weather expert, punching the old lines "geez it freezing 
out there, i think its going to snow" or "its snowing out&nbsp;there 
now.........just about". But&nbsp;i must admit it did look very promising for 
snow when the cloud and snow line covering the brindabellas started looming over 
us, but alas no snow...... Just sleet, wind and 
coldness..........&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thats it from me, i think</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon Angell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Canberra ACT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>currently, calm and 7.1*c</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.s also just noticed, that on WZ, observation for 
canberra at 11:53 it was 7.5 and at 12:30 it was 7.9.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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I saw that - and was just what I was saying.

Les


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> The commentator mentioned "There's a bit of electricity around" - and
> then they showed an image of one of the players' hair standing on end -
> I nearly died!!!  If that ever happened to me like that in the open, I'd
> be moving very quickly and praying hard...
>
> AC
>
> Matthew Smith wrote:
> >
> > Anyone watching the cricket? Storms approaching the ground, and the hair
> > of one of the bowlers was standing on end, after that they took the
> > players off the field.... what about the crowd !! oh well. Ive only
> > experienced that once, with Jimmy and Michael bath on my 1st storm chase
> > to the Moree area.
> > Anyway if your up, tune into the cricket on 7 for a storm :)
> >
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Actually, mine were all colour slides starting from about 1964.
I did do some BW prints from about 1954, but even BW prints were so 
expensive back then, that it had to be a truly magnificent cloud 
formation for me to photograph it - and then I got into trouble with my 
Mum for wasting my pocket money taking pictures of clouds.  
I haven't got a clue where all that early stuff is now, but it's just 
possibly all stored amongst the junk in the sleepout behind my Mum's 
place near Echuca.
I swapped to colour prints when I got married in 1976.  Since then I have 
been able to get into trouble with my wife for wasting my pocket money 
taking pictures of clouds!

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> Do you still have the first weather picture that you ever took? 
> Digging
> around & looking for a completely different picture, I came across the
> first 2 weather pix I took with my first camera - an old secondhand
> Kodak.  The image on the left was looking to the NW in September 1974
> (eek!!  27 years ago) and the colour one was looking SW from the same
> spot in Deakin in February 1975.
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/1stpics.JPG
> 
> 
> I think my photography skills have improved since then........
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/August2001/DCP02777.JPG
> 
> Jane
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hi all,
just a quick photo of some of the damage in Wonthaggi from Thursday 
night/Friday mornings (2:05AM exactly) blast; 
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/wm01.11.htm
more photos and a report to come shortly.

- I have had a few computer problems over the w/e

would anyone have archived radars from right through Thursday night/friday 
morning (say 12am-6am) please?
much appreciated :-)


regards tm
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>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:29:03 +1000 (EST)
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>
>Les (Ballarat, not radar central) inquired:
>
> > Now what happened at wanthaggi? Was it a tornado? It was also very windy
> > last night here too.
>
>A spotter report this morning after 6am spoke of damage to a number
>of houses in (or near) Wonthaggi (VIC).  Some of the BOM severe weather
>people are inspecting the evidence today to decide on straight-line
>winds versus cold-season tornado as the cause for the damage.
>
>The Laverton radar reflectivity from this morning showed some fast-moving 
>convective
>cells going SW-NE,  but the radar did not scream "wow" at me.
>
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I know exactly how you feel!  I haven't been able to sleep since the middle
of last week! (Jindabyne).  I sure wish I had an anemometer

Tina :-)
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> Hi all.
> Well I'm getting sick of all these active full blown cold fronts that have
> started to show up across Victoria, bring back the stratocu and allow me
to
> get some sleep, I think I will be a nervous wreck by the end of the week
> with at least another 2 active fronts due over the next three days. Its
> getting very difficult down here with sleet hail thunder 100k+ wind gusts
> and low pressure, need I go on?, look at today, do I have to tell you and
> everybody what's it like organising a birthday party with such weather
> conditions, I couldn't concentrate for more than 5 minutes without running
> to have a look out of the west window!.With the third active cold front in
> almost as many days arriving at 6.10pm tonight with 80kph winds torrential
> rain and spray being blown about tree branches flying hail bouncing!, then
> followed by a similar barrage from my good wife for ignoring our birthdays
> guests....its so difficult here in Victoria at the moment I don't think I
> can stand another active cold front......well one more maybe.....best
wishes
> Clyve Herbert.
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> > Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out having fun. But the
> > silence is a worry. Or perhaps the board is plain slow again ?
> >
> > Michael Thompson
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Some of us weren't exactly out chasing, but a nice 3km walk
in the pouring rain...ahh, that brought back memories. lets
just hope we get alot more rain, only cause we need it and
cause I wanna go walking in it again :o) (Oh...and the ASWA
jumpers do a superb job of keeping you warm, even when they
are saturated)

PaulY

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I know exactly how you feel!  I haven't been able to sleep
since the middle
of last week! (Jindabyne).  I sure wish I had an anemometer

Tina :-)
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> Hi all.
> Well I'm getting sick of all these active full blown cold
fronts that have
> started to show up across Victoria, bring back the
stratocu and allow me
to
> get some sleep, I think I will be a nervous wreck by the
end of the week
> with at least another 2 active fronts due over the next
three days. Its
> getting very difficult down here with sleet hail thunder
100k+ wind gusts
> and low pressure, need I go on?, look at today, do I have
to tell you and
> everybody what's it like organising a birthday party with
such weather
> conditions, I couldn't concentrate for more than 5 minutes
without running
> to have a look out of the west window!.With the third
active cold front in
> almost as many days arriving at 6.10pm tonight with 80kph
winds torrential
> rain and spray being blown about tree branches flying hail
bouncing!, then
> followed by a similar barrage from my good wife for
ignoring our birthdays
> guests....its so difficult here in Victoria at the moment
I don't think I
> can stand another active cold front......well one more
maybe.....best
wishes
> Clyve Herbert.
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> > Looking at the Vic radar I assume they are all out
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<P>Although Mullaley (he of the hair standing on end) was the tallest player on the field, I would have been more worried if I was the cameraman up in the cherry picker.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I was out on my long run on Sat morning and so wasn't really prepared to lug my 35mm for 26km. It was hard enough holding my hat on, and leaning into the wind like a motorcyle rider into a corner to keep running in a staright line. But running out past WIN stadium the winds were gusting almost strong enough to trip me over and blow me from the cycleway. As these gusts hit the surf theyw ere lifting the spray into the air and I could see each gust making its way rapidly towards the horizon. It is obe of teh few times I have seen this, and it made a big difference that the winds were off-shore and blowing across a fairly flat ocean that close in. The best way I can describe it, is to compare it to the nature doco's showing the winds howling across the antartic and picking up the snow. The gusts looked like that across the flat water, with the spray looking mist-like.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Unfortunately I didn't see anything like that again as the winds were a little calmer during the afternoon. Hopefully I'll be ready for the next good front to come through. For all you Victorians, we're jealous up here, we've had the winds, but not the cloud and wet. Keep sending it up though, sooner or later the winds will tend SE with a good front from a low in the central tasman and some good cold air to pack a real punch. (I wish!!)</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Andrew Godsman</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Michael Thompson [<A HREF="mailto:michaelt at ozemail.com.au">mailto:michaelt at ozemail.com.au</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Saturday, 18 August 2001 12:16</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: aus-wx: Gale force winds in Illawarra</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Winds this morning peaked at around 50 knots, but I would not be surprised</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to see some 60 knot gusts.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I took a couple of pictures of Lake Illawarra, go to</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2><A HREF="http://ozthunder.com/diary/w2001.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://ozthunder.com/diary/w2001.htm</A></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Just after I took this photo a strong gust about 3km north over the lake</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>lifted a column of spray about 50m into the air.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Michael Thompson</FONT>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As the commentator said "there's a bit of 
electricity around" perhaps he should have said "streamer leaving mullaley's 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brings a whole new meaning to "the npower test". 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There were a whole rash of severe storms from Leeds 
---&gt; York ---&gt; Hull (North East England) today (Sunday) and I was out 
chasing them but they were well obscured. Plenty of CGs though especially around 
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Hello Chas and Bussie,

The Weather Bureau uses Datawell wave-riders, a Dutch company.

         http://www.datawell.nl/products_buoys.htm

The particular buoys that we use are described in the following PDF document.

         http://www.datawell.nl/documentation/datawell_waverider_brochure.pdf

The Weather Bureau has only two (or possibly three) deployed.

The Kangaroo Island one (off the SW point, Cape De Couedic) can be found on 
the web at:

         http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS65031.shtml

The Tasmanian, Cape Sorell one can be found at:

         http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDT65015.shtml

I think the reference about QLD is wrong. The NSW Manly Hydraulics 
Laboratory maintains a number (7 from the map) of identical Waverider buoys 
off the NSW coast. They have a web nice page at:

         http://marlin.mhl.nsw.gov.au/www/wave_last4.htmlx

Hope this helps.

At 05:27 AM 18/08/2001 +1000, Chas & Helen Osborn wrote:
>Hello Bussie
>
>The wave rider is a metal buoy about 1m in diameter that has electronic
>equipment in it that measures movement (This bit I don't understand maybe
>someone might have a simple explanation for it). It has a low powered HF radio
>that is received out at the weather station at the airport. A reading is sent
>every half hour. The buoy is replaced every six months to replenish the
>batteries. The main faults with the system is the land based equipment which
>lately has had a few outs. There are a number off Queensland as well I
>understand it helps with protecting the beaches in the SE.
>It measures height  of waves and time interval.
>
>We had another wild night (now 5am). Just had another squally shower with 
>hail.
>We hope to go snow chasing today!
>
>Chas
>Strahan Tasmania
>
>Bussie wrote:
>
> > I've been meaning to ask. What is the wave rider? Is it a buoy or something
> > in the ocean that reads the highest waves etc? Thanks.
> > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" <hosborn at tassie.net.au>
> > To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:27 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Weather
> >
> > > Hello Everyone
> > >
> > > It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been reported down to 300m. We
> > > have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> > > Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See below.
> > > Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
> > >
> > > Chas
> > > Strahan Tasmania
> > >
> > >
> > > TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> > > Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
> > >
> > >
> > > CAPE SORELL
> > >  WIND: WSW  28KT
> > > Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
> > >  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
> > >  Period:  15 secs
> > >
> > > MARRAWAH
> > >  WIND: WSW  32KT,
> > >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> > >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
> > >  RECENT PRECIPITATION
> > >
> > > CAPE GRIM
> > >  WIND: W    34KT
> > >
> > > FLINDERS IS
> > >  WIND: WSW  42KT
> > >
> > > MAATSUYKER IS
> > >  WIND: WNW  41KT,
> > >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> > >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
> > >  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
> > >
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From: "Greg Curtis" <curtisg at ecn.net.au>
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The Queensland Government has 12 Waverider buoy sites throughout the state.
They are maintained by the EPA. Real time date and information at:

http://www.env.qld.gov.au/environment/coast/tides/waves/html/index.htm

Greg Curtis

----- Original Message -----
From: Hank de Wit <H.deWit at bom.gov.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>; <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Strahan Weather


> Hello Chas and Bussie,
>
> The Weather Bureau uses Datawell wave-riders, a Dutch company.
>
>          http://www.datawell.nl/products_buoys.htm
>
> The particular buoys that we use are described in the following PDF
document.
>
>
http://www.datawell.nl/documentation/datawell_waverider_brochure.pdf
>
> The Weather Bureau has only two (or possibly three) deployed.
>
> The Kangaroo Island one (off the SW point, Cape De Couedic) can be found
on
> the web at:
>
>          http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDS65031.shtml
>
> The Tasmanian, Cape Sorell one can be found at:
>
>          http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDT65015.shtml
>
> I think the reference about QLD is wrong. The NSW Manly Hydraulics
> Laboratory maintains a number (7 from the map) of identical Waverider
buoys
> off the NSW coast. They have a web nice page at:
>
>          http://marlin.mhl.nsw.gov.au/www/wave_last4.htmlx
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> At 05:27 AM 18/08/2001 +1000, Chas & Helen Osborn wrote:
> >Hello Bussie
> >
> >The wave rider is a metal buoy about 1m in diameter that has electronic
> >equipment in it that measures movement (This bit I don't understand maybe
> >someone might have a simple explanation for it). It has a low powered HF
radio
> >that is received out at the weather station at the airport. A reading is
sent
> >every half hour. The buoy is replaced every six months to replenish the
> >batteries. The main faults with the system is the land based equipment
which
> >lately has had a few outs. There are a number off Queensland as well I
> >understand it helps with protecting the beaches in the SE.
> >It measures height  of waves and time interval.
> >
> >We had another wild night (now 5am). Just had another squally shower with
> >hail.
> >We hope to go snow chasing today!
> >
> >Chas
> >Strahan Tasmania
> >
> >Bussie wrote:
> >
> > > I've been meaning to ask. What is the wave rider? Is it a buoy or
something
> > > in the ocean that reads the highest waves etc? Thanks.
> > > Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chas & Helen Osborn" <hosborn at tassie.net.au>
> > > To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:27 AM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Weather
> > >
> > > > Hello Everyone
> > > >
> > > > It blew a gale all night here. Snow has been reported down to 300m.
We
> > > > have a short respite then more of the same tonight.
> > > > Still reasonable wind strengths happening.  See below.
> > > > Wave rider peeked at 14.6m at 4.30am this morning!
> > > >
> > > > Chas
> > > > Strahan Tasmania
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TASMANIAN COASTAL REPORTS
> > > > Issued at 0948 on Friday the 17th of August 2001
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > CAPE SORELL
> > > >  WIND: WSW  28KT
> > > > Wave rider, significant wave height:  7m
> > > >  Maximum height over the past 3 hours:  14.4m
> > > >  Period:  15 secs
> > > >
> > > > MARRAWAH
> > > >  WIND: WSW  32KT,
> > > >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> > > >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT OVER 4M,
> > > >  RECENT PRECIPITATION
> > > >
> > > > CAPE GRIM
> > > >  WIND: W    34KT
> > > >
> > > > FLINDERS IS
> > > >  WIND: WSW  42KT
> > > >
> > > > MAATSUYKER IS
> > > >  WIND: WNW  41KT,
> > > >  SEA: VERY ROUGH, HEIGHT 4 TO 6M,
> > > >  SWELL: SW, HEAVY, HEIGHT 5.5M,
> > > >  VISIBILITY 10KM, DISTANT PRECIPITATION
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Hi all

Here's a sequence of Victorian visible images from today showing the cold
air currently over us.....brrrrr

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_20/today.html

These images also reinforce what has been posted often on the list about
how the Canberra-Cooma region is fairly well sheltered, which in this
case, occurs with the wind from the southwest. 


And at the moment, for TDU this year, my current unconfirmed commitments
mean either one of:
22/11 -> 1/12 
or 
1/12 -> 9/12
will be the go, with more certain availability for 5/11 -> 13/11 (too
early?) and/or 17/12 -> whenever (depends how guilty my parents can make
me feel for not visiting them for Christmas :-).


Cheers

--

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School of Mathematical Sciences
Monash University
Clayton, Vic 3800
Australia

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Hi robert, and all

Very nice pics there robert, i never realised how much of a rainshadow area
the eden-monaro is.
(eden-monaro is the correct council names for cooma(monaro) up to canberra
and across to the coast(eden).)

Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
Currently raining and 5.8*c and falling. with the freezing level at 1000m
over canberra ATM and canberra being around 600m ASL theres a slight
possibility of snow tonight.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Goler" <robert at mail.maths.monash.edu.au>
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Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Victoria Visible sat pics & TDU Chase days


>
> Hi all
>
> Here's a sequence of Victorian visible images from today showing the cold
> air currently over us.....brrrrr
>
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_08_20/today.html
>
> These images also reinforce what has been posted often on the list about
> how the Canberra-Cooma region is fairly well sheltered, which in this
> case, occurs with the wind from the southwest.
>
>
> And at the moment, for TDU this year, my current unconfirmed commitments
> mean either one of:
> 22/11 -> 1/12
> or
> 1/12 -> 9/12
> will be the go, with more certain availability for 5/11 -> 13/11 (too
> early?) and/or 17/12 -> whenever (depends how guilty my parents can make
> me feel for not visiting them for Christmas :-).
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> School of Mathematical Sciences
> Monash University
> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
>
> ph. +61 3 9905 4424
> email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/
>
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I thought I would again remind for those interested that there will be a
radar course this Saturday 25th August 2001. It is intended for those
wanting to sharpen or develop their skills in reading radar which has
become available in the past year especially. Details just
below.<br><br>
Also note there is a General AMOS meeting this Wednesday 22nd August
2001- read below for details.<br>
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<div align="center"><font size=6>Special Weather Radar Course<br><br>
</font>Like an opportunity to learn about weather radars and how to make
maximum use of the Bureau of Meteorology’s weather radar images? <br>
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Speakers:&nbsp; Rob Webb, Milton Speer and Julie Evans, Bureau of
Meteorology.<br><br>
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When:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Saturday,
August 25 2001, 2 to 5 pm<br>
Where:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>E7B
T1 Mason Theatre, Macquarie University<br>
Cost:<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>$20
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<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>$10
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<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Free
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<div align="center">Notes will be provided.<br><br>
For further information, including details of transport and parking
arrangements, as well as a map of the Macquarie University campus, please
check out our web-site at<br>
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See you there; bring your friends (and especially students).<br><br>
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<font size=5>Sydney AMOS Presentation<br>
</font><div align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size=5>Wednesday
August 22, 2001.<br>
</font><b>Macquarie University, 7:30 pm<br>
Room 143, Building E5A<br><br>
<font size=5>Coastal Oceanography: So Where Does the<br>
Upwelled Water Come From Anyway?<br><br>
</font><font size=5>Peter Oke<br>
School of Mathematics<br>
Uni of New South Wales<br><br>
</b></font></div>
Upwelling is the buzzword of coastal oceanography, representing the
process by which cold, potentially nutrient-rich water is brought to the
surface. Upwelling effectively feeds the light and nutrient dependent
ecosystems of the coastal ocean environment, sustaining million dollar
fisheries, ensuring the survival of endangered sea-birds, and is destined
to keep physical oceanographers amused for decades. In this talk,
observations from one of the first comprehensive coastal ocean
observation programs, the 1972/73 Coastal Upwelling Experiments, is
reviewed. These observations motivated oceanographers to ask simple
questions like “where does the upwelled water come from anyway?”
Amazingly, this question is still open for debate, over 25 years later. A
computer model of the coastal ocean is presented, along with a series of
model-data comparisons and a discussion of where that elusive upwelled
water really comes from.<br><br>
Peter obtained his BSc and PhD in Mathematics/Physical Oceanography from
UNSW, and then spend two years at Oregon State University. He returned to
UNSW as a Postdoctoral Research Associate earlier this year.<br><br>
<br>
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Jimmy Deguara<br>
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher<br><br>
from <br>
Schofields, Sydney<br>
NSW Australia<br><br>
e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au<br><br>
Web Page with Michael Bath<br><br>
Australian Severe Weather Home Page<br>
<a href="http://www.australiasevereweather.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.australiasevereweather.com<br><br>
</a>President of the Australian Severe Weather Association<br>
<a href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au/" eudora="autourl">http://www.severeweather.asn.au<br>
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In a developement that could enable the development of an Australia wide 
weather data sharing network, there is now a project in place called 
Brismesh. It is a wireless network being built by hackers sick of the 
restrictions and cost of the real internet.

http://www.csee.uq.edu.au/~mesh/

The network is still being built, but once running I could easily write an 
application to run over it that will allow the sharing of weather data 
between users. Imagine live 25fps motion video webcams, lightning trackers, 
wx stations all being linked in real time to allow users to get a good 
picture of the weather live. If you are in Brisbane and interested register 
your name on that site.

David
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hi Chas,
Nice photos!!
great to see some pics from Tassie,thanks for sharing them with us.
- keep them coming  :-)

regards TM
Anvil Industries
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils



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>Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Photos
>Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 06:39:21 +1000
>
>Hello Everyone
>
>Another cold front about to cross us wind WNW 24/34knots pressure
>993.8hpa.
>
>Yesterday I photographed the back of a cell  as it moved through.
>Have a look at
>
>http://www.geocities.com/chasosborn/weather.html?998166379270
>
>Chas
>Strahan Tasmania
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At 10:14 AM 8/20/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Some of us weren't exactly out chasing, but a nice 3km walk
>in the pouring rain...ahh, that brought back memories. lets
>just hope we get alot more rain, only cause we need it and
>cause I wanna go walking in it again :o)


Paul,

You are as bloody mad as the Bidwill students I used to teach!!!!!!!!

I recall when rain began to dump down at Bidwill once. Now we do have under 
cover areas but we also had leaking gutters which attracted the mad 
students' pleasures. Students, girls included, in fact mainly girls, parked 
themselves under the torrents and got absolutely saturated. I just shook my 
head in disbelief. And I was walking undercover with the attitude "I know. 
I don't want to get wet". I felt like a whimp.

Anyway, I am outa here.

Jimmy Deguara


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Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au

Web Page with Michael Bath

Australian Severe Weather Home Page
http://www.australiasevereweather.com

President of the Australian Severe Weather Association
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Subject: aus-wx: Weather vandalism
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just wanted to express my views on something that 
really iritates me. Over Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those 
advertisers that fly aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or 
similar).&nbsp;&nbsp;Invariably their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton 
Bay.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Who allows this to happen&nbsp;???? Is it legal ??? 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Frog" something or other, is all I could make out 
on the week-end. There is enough pollution that goes up there without 
advertising pollution.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now I've got that off my chest, back to 'non 
artificial' weather watching.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: If only we could go for the ride - any contacts Jimmy ?
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Hi Peter,

I think if you don research in the field it is not that hard to get on a
hurricane hunter. I know of quite a few people in our department who have
got to go, but maybe it's because they're Bill Gray's students??

Cheer,s Lyle

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>
> > MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
> > JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
> > CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
> > NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
> > PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
> > http://www.jpl.nasa.gov
> >
> > Contact:  Colleen Sharkey (818) 354-0372
> >            Rosemary Sullivant (818) 354-0474
> >
> > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                                   August 16, 2001
> >
> > NASA SCIENTISTS BECOME HURRICANE CHASERS
> >
> >      Scientists from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.,
will head into
> > hurricanes this summer, hoping to improve predictions of these deadly
storms by using
> > new data-collecting technology.
> >
> >      The four scientists are part of NASA's fourth Convection and
Moisture Experiment,
> > a massive field experiment based at Jacksonville Naval Station, Fla.,
from Aug.16 through
> > Sept. 24.  Their instruments will be on two NASA aircraft as they fly
over, through and
> > around selected hurricanes in the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico and the
Atlantic.
> >
> >      The goal of the experiment is to take the mystique out of
hurricanes. By examining
> > how a hurricane evolves and behaves, investigators hope to make possible
more accurate,
> > longer-range forecasts. Since evacuation is often the key to saving
lives during a hurricane,
> > researchers are paying special attention to a hurricane's behavior when
it hits land.
> >
> >      Participants in this year's Convection and Moisture Experiment from
JPL include:
> >
> >      --Bjorn H. Lambrigtsen, who led the team that designed and built
the High Altitude
> >      Monolithic Microwave Integrated Circuit Sounding Radiometer for
this mission. An
> >      advanced atmospheric microwave sounder, the instrument can "see"
through clouds. On
> >      previous investigations of this project, two separate microwave
sounders recorded
> >      temperature and humidity. This new instrument, smaller and lighter
than its predecessors,
> >      will have the ability to do both.
> >
> >      The radiometer will fly in one of the wing pods of the
high-altitude Earth Research-
> > 2 aircraft, a former U2 spy plane. From an altitude of about 20
kilometers (65,000 feet), it
> > will scan the atmosphere below the plane from side to side with a
searchlight-type beam
> > and map the temperature, humidity and cloud distributions inside a
hurricane.
> >
> >      Lambrigtsen and his team will participate in all flights of the
Earth Research-2
> > craft. From their instrument's measurements, they will derive vertical
profiles of
> > temperature, water vapor and liquid water. They will also estimate rain
rates and create an
> > ice-particle scattering index, which will be used to develop a formula
for calculating cloud
> > ice. Co-investigators are Drs. Lance Riley and Evan Fishbein, also from
JPL.
> >
> >      -- Dr. Robert Herman, who will lead the JPL Laser Hygrometer team.
The laser
> > hygrometer is a miniature laser spectrometer for rapid measurements of
water vapor.
> > During this mission, the instrument will be mounted on a NASA DC-8
aircraft to measure
> > water vapor as the airplane flies through tropical hurricanes. The data
will help scientists
> > understand just how much moisture the air can hold before ice clouds
form. The instrument
> > will also provide information on latent heat, the heat released when
water condenses,
> > which is an important energy source that drives storms. These data
should provide a better
> > understanding of the processes that regulate water in the atmosphere and
tropical storms.
> >
> >      -- Dr. Michael Mahoney, the principal investigator for the DC-8
Microwave
> > Temperature Profiler and the Earth Research-2 Microwave Temperature
Profiler. The
> > instruments scan vertically in each aircraft's flight direction. Looking
straight down,
> > straight ahead and straight up, they measure temperature at different
frequencies to create a
> > complete temperature profile.
> >
> >      On the DC-8, the Microwave Temperature Profiler displays air
temperature data in
> > real-time and is updated every 15 seconds. An experimenter onboard the
DC-8 can control
> > this real-time data and provide it to scientists immediately. The
temperature profile of the
> > atmosphere is a vital part of hurricane research because it helps
scientists understand the
> > stability of the atmosphere. The instrument can also help pinpoint the
exact location of the
> > troposphere, the lower part of Earth's atmosphere. In addition, it can
measure the flow of
> > air parcels to determine if there are gravity waves in the atmosphere
that could affect the
> > level of ozone depletion.
> >
> >      On the Earth Research-2 aircraft, the microwave temperature
profiler operates
> > autonomously, and the data is processed later.
> >
> >      -- Dr. Eastwood Im, who will administer the Dual Frequency Airborne
> > Precipitation Radar, an airborne dual-frequency radar that will measure
the 3-D structure
> > of rainfall. Two crucial parts of the new instrument -- the pressure box
and antenna -- are
> > from a previous airborne radar developed by JPL, called Airborne Rain
Mapping Radar.
> > The new instrument is an improvement over the earlier radar because it
has two
> > frequencies, which will improve rainfall measurements, and can process
data in real time.
> >
> >      The instrument team plans to fly this radar in a rotating
figure-four pattern across
> > the rainstorm through the hurricane's eye, as well as through the
rainbands at the storm's
> > edge. Data collected will help determine rain rate, vertical motion and
location of melting
> > ice along the DC-8 flight track below the aircraft.
> >
> >      The fourth Convection and Moisture Experiment is sponsored by
NASA's Earth
> > Science Enterprise.  These investigations will be conducted in
collaboration with the
> > National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Hurricane Research
Division and the
> > U.S. Weather Research Program.  JPL is a division of the California
Institute of
> > Technology in Pasadena.
> >
> >                                         #####
> >
> > 7/30/2001 CS    #2001-171
> >

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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:40:01 +1000
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I have a few contenders pre 1975. One of a bushfire bellowing a pall of
smoke from the Illawarra escarpment. Another sequence of developing Cu taken
from the back fence, watched the weather for 3-4 hours and took a pic every
30 mins or so. The photos all stuck to the albums and plastic sleeves and
basically fell apart. Moral - buy decent albums.

All were taken on this horrible 126mm ( ? ) cartridge camera. As soon as
started work I brought my first SLR. A russian Zenith. The pictures were not
too bad, and the lens was actually Carl Ziess. That lasted a year until I
held an Olympus OM1 in my hands and knew I then had to have this wonder.

I then went through the serious photo stage of the late 1970's and into
1980, I joined the must have a Nikon or else or club. I still have the Nikon
and its pictures are still perfect.

Only two years ago grew tired of lugging the house brick weight Nikon to and
from work and brought a Minolta 404Si, this is great camera and my wife
loves it too.

Finally just 6 weeks ago I brought my first digital - a Canon A20. Given
time I will get a digital that you can focus through the lens, perhaps a SLR
digital. In 5 years these will be similar in price to 35mm SLR's. I would
also love to get a medium format camera. But some plans have to wait until
kids are through school, etc.

Michael






> Do you still have the first weather picture that you ever took?  Digging
> around & looking for a completely different picture, I came across the
> first 2 weather pix I took with my first camera - an old secondhand
> Kodak.  The image on the left was looking to the NW in September 1974
> (eek!!  27 years ago) and the colour one was looking SW from the same
> spot in Deakin in February 1975.



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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gale force winds in Illawarra
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It is funny you should make this comparison as I had just 
watched a show called Katabatic on the National Geographic channel. The winds 
flowing off the Antarctic plateau and onto the ice shelf reminded me exactly the 
same as you .</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=2>off-shore and blowing across a 
  fairly flat ocean that close in. The best way I can describe it, is to compare 
  it to the nature doco's showing the winds howling across the antartic and 
  picking up the snow. The gusts looked like that across the flat water, with 
  the spray looking mist-like.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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From: David Findlay <david_j_findlay at yahoo.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Radar course this Saturday, and Wednesday AMOS meeting -  reminder
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On Monday 20 August 2001 18:28, Jimmy Deguara hit his keyboard with his head 
and the result was this:
> I thought I would again remind for those interested that there will be a
> radar course this Saturday 25th August 2001. It is intended for those
> wanting to sharpen or develop their skills in reading radar which has
> become available in the past year especially. Details just below.

Do they have these sorts of courses in Brisbane ever? Thanks,

David
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On Monday 20 August 2001 18:18, Simon Clarke hit his keyboard with his head 
and the result was this:
> Just wanted to express my views on something that really iritates me. Over
> Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those advertisers that fly
> aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or similar).  Invariably
> their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton Bay.

It does allow you to see what the high level winds are doing. Last Saturday 
they were very fast.... :-P

David
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Yes it was constant in Sydney on Sunday 11th August for the city to surf 
fun run (while we were at Homebush for the AGM BBQ). I'm just glad it 
doesn't happen in regional areas. I think this issue was raised in the 
"spike" column in the Sydney Morning Herald a couple of weeks back, and 
basically they couldn't really find anyone who has a say over it.

The only advantage of it is that in totally clear skies you can get an idea 
of winds at whatever level they are flying - 4000 - 5000 metres ?

regards, Michael


At 06:18 PM 20/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Just wanted to express my views on something that really iritates me. Over 
>Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those advertisers that fly 
>aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or similar).  Invariably 
>their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton Bay.
>
>Who allows this to happen ???? Is it legal ???
>
>"Frog" something or other, is all I could make out on the week-end. There 
>is enough pollution that goes up there without advertising pollution.
>
>Now I've got that off my chest, back to 'non artificial' weather watching.
>
>
>
>
>Regards
>Simon


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Hi all

While the Vics and Taswegians have been enjoying the action, most of the
real stuff has been passing south of Adelaide.  We've had several cool
breezy days of showers - really the most typical winter pattern of the
whole season - but no grunty cold Cb's, hail, gusters, storms etc.

Well, that should all change when the next front comes ashore around 3pm
this afternoon.  I'll be at the beach, camera in hand.  I'll report back if
anything nice happens [please deities, a nice coldy just a few hundred
metres from my location :)  ]

Phil

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Ahhhhh reminds me of growing up living on the beachfront at Brighton SA,
years of watching cold fronts (not to mention the odd dust storm from the
northwest and quite a few speccy sunsets) come in over the sea from the
living room window created a lifelong interest in the weather!

BTW (to get back on topic) can anyone explain the anomalies between the
short and long range radar images on Weatherzone? Things that are on one
sometimes don't even show at all on the other.... Times etc are roughly the
same.
Thanks everyone for sharing weather obs etc - how many people are like me
and just read em with interest?

Cheerio
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> Well, that should all change when the next front comes ashore around 3pm
> this afternoon.  I'll be at the beach, camera in hand.  I'll report back if
> anything nice happens [please deities, a nice coldy just a few hundred
> metres from my location :)  ]
> 
> Phil
> 
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi Simon,

This has been going on for some time, the ad is for froggy.com.au (an ISP)
with a price ($17.95/month unlimited download, 4 email addresses 10MB
space).  So you could presumably send them a really abusive email if you
like (admin at froggy.com.au).  We should all be grateful for the beautiful
clear skies that we have in Oz (apart from the odd airplane - or not so odd
if you are unfortunate enough to live in Sydney).

Looking into my crystal ball, it is now only a matter of a few years and a
couple of key technology advances before we have a viable 'aircar' or
antigrav technology.  At that stage the skies around any population centre
will become forever blotted by an angry cloud of vehicles not unlike a cloud
of flies around a dung pile.  Welcome to the 21st century.

John.
>snip

Yes it was constant in Sydney on Sunday 11th August for the city to surf
fun run (while we were at Homebush for the AGM BBQ). I'm just glad it
doesn't happen in regional areas. I think this issue was raised in the
"spike" column in the Sydney Morning Herald a couple of weeks back, and
basically they couldn't really find anyone who has a say over it.

The only advantage of it is that in totally clear skies you can get an idea
of winds at whatever level they are flying - 4000 - 5000 metres ?

regards, Michael


At 06:18 PM 20/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>Just wanted to express my views on something that really iritates me. Over
>Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those advertisers that fly
>aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or similar).  Invariably
>their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton Bay.
>
>Who allows this to happen ???? Is it legal ???
>
>"Frog" something or other, is all I could make out on the week-end. There
>is enough pollution that goes up there without advertising pollution.
>
>Now I've got that off my chest, back to 'non artificial' weather watching.
>
>
>
>
>Regards
>Simon

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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Cold CBs west of Tasmania.
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Hi all.
An interesting line up of cold CBs west of Tasmania this morning moving
rapidly northeast, they seem to be lined up along a vigorous trough and cold
front with their leading anvils pointing to south Gippsland!, there is also
a respectable amount of mid level cold air with this system and all of this
should intensify as the whole kit and caboodle trundles across the
relatively warmer waters of Bass Strait later today and tonight , looks to
be favourable for another batch of cold air thunderstorms near to coastal
Victoria. So batten down the hatches all those in lucky Wonthaggi and the
coastal fringes of Victoria. Looking good for some prefrontal orographic
snow dumps too over the Vic Alps. Regards Clyve Herbert.

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> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> This has been going on for some time, the ad is for froggy.com.au (an ISP)
> with a price ($17.95/month unlimited download, 4 email addresses 10MB
> space).  So you could presumably send them a really abusive email if you
> like (admin at froggy.com.au).  We should all be grateful for the beautiful
> clear skies that we have in Oz (apart from the odd airplane - or not so odd
> if you are unfortunate enough to live in Sydney).
> 
> Looking into my crystal ball, it is now only a matter of a few years and a
> couple of key technology advances before we have a viable 'aircar' or
> antigrav technology.  At that stage the skies around any population centre
> will become forever blotted by an angry cloud of vehicles not unlike a cloud
> of flies around a dung pile.  Welcome to the 21st century.
> 
> John.
> >snip
> 
> Yes it was constant in Sydney on Sunday 11th August for the city to surf
> fun run (while we were at Homebush for the AGM BBQ). I'm just glad it
> doesn't happen in regional areas. I think this issue was raised in the
> "spike" column in the Sydney Morning Herald a couple of weeks back, and
> basically they couldn't really find anyone who has a say over it.
> 

This was one of the most hilarious examples of the bureaucratic
run-around I've heard - they went initially to the Advertising 
Standards Council, who sent them to the Outdoor Advertising Association,
who sent them to the NSW Department of Fair Trading, who sent them 
to the NSW Environment Department, who sent them to Airservices
Australia, who sent them to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority. I
never did hear where it ended up after CASA, although someone 
suggested you might find out who was responsible fairly quickly
if you wrote 'f***' in the sky....

It seems to be fairly rare in Melbourne - so far.

Blair
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Just found out that the radar the BOM uses pulses 250 times per second!!!! 
That's some refresh rate. The guy I emailed said that they could get me the 
exact frequency, but that may require a maintience visit. That sounds 
expensive so I turned that one down. :-)

David
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At 11:53 AM 8/21/01 +1000, you wrote:
>although someone
>suggested you might find out who was responsible fairly quickly
>if you wrote 'f***' in the sky....


I like this one Blair!!! 10/10


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Subject: aus-wx: Tassies cold weather
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just a quick message to let people know how cold it 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I spoke to&nbsp;a friend of mine today who was down 
in Tassie on the weekend and he was surfing at a beach on the east coast and all 
of a sudden IT STARTED SNOWING WHILE HE WAS OUT IN&nbsp;THE 
SURF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp; How AWESOME is 
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From: "Chris Daley" <jindivik at bigpond.com>
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Couldn't resist this one.

My memory is a bit clouded, but I do recall hearing a story on day at
Essendon airport that one such man who used to do sky writing from there
actually did just that, wrote f*&^ and S^% at  in the sky.

Apparently, the CAA as it was known at the time received somewhere around
1000 calls about it.  A CAA inspector was waiting on the ground when he
landed and being the desk type that he was, told him to "Immediately remove
that vulgar expression from the sky"!  Needless to say that particular
inspector couldn't show his face at Essendon again without ground crew from
most companies there rolling on the floor.

And to clear up Simons original post, they don't use dry ice, they actually
inject a diesel oil mix into the hot exhaust pipes as a vapour to produce
the smoke, which is a lot more environmentaly friendly than just one
unleaded car with a faulty catalytic converter.  As it has been said, it
gives an indication of wind strength and velocity at high altitudes and can
really only be done when there is nothing happening weather wise anyway.

Regards,

Chris

----- Original Message -----
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> At 11:53 AM 8/21/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >although someone
> >suggested you might find out who was responsible fairly quickly
> >if you wrote 'f***' in the sky....
>
>
> I like this one Blair!!! 10/10
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
> Web Page with Michael Bath
>
> Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I notice those "Froggy dot com vandals" are at it 
again this evening in Brisbane ruining the sunset - too bad if I wanted to take 
a photograph.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know it does give us an indication of upper 
winds. But just as photochemical smog over the wetern suburbs, gives us an 
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Here in the North East pocket we haven't had too much action either. Seems
that the ranges are blocking me out again. Lots of wind of course and
nothing like the coastal regions are experiencing and bugger all rain. 20mm
for the month so far :-(
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Hi all
>
> While the Vics and Taswegians have been enjoying the action, most of the
> real stuff has been passing south of Adelaide.  We've had several cool
> breezy days of showers - really the most typical winter pattern of the
> whole season - but no grunty cold Cb's, hail, gusters, storms etc.
>
> Well, that should all change when the next front comes ashore around 3pm
> this afternoon.  I'll be at the beach, camera in hand.  I'll report back
if
> anything nice happens [please deities, a nice coldy just a few hundred
> metres from my location :)  ]
>
> Phil
>
> Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
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Ho hum,

Once again a bit of a bust.  We just seem to be missing out on the low
thickness air this year in Adelaide.  All that good stuff going south
[Andrews story about snow on the beach sounds amazing!  Any pictures of
snow lying at low levels coming from Tas??].  It was cool and blustery with
a fair sea running and some sharp stinging showers.  But not a great deal
of vertical development and the clouds, while glaciating, were not
anviling.  No hail.  No thunder.

Next chance Sunday.  Fingers crossed



>Here in the North East pocket we haven't had too much action either. Seems
>that the ranges are blocking me out again. Lots of wind of course and
>nothing like the coastal regions are experiencing and bugger all rain. 20mm
>for the month so far :-(
>Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
>----- Original Message -----
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>
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> While the Vics and Taswegians have been enjoying the action, most of the
>> real stuff has been passing south of Adelaide.  We've had several cool
>> breezy days of showers - really the most typical winter pattern of the
>> whole season - but no grunty cold Cb's, hail, gusters, storms etc.
>>
>> Well, that should all change when the next front comes ashore around 3pm
>> this afternoon.  I'll be at the beach, camera in hand.  I'll report back
>if
>> anything nice happens [please deities, a nice coldy just a few hundred
>> metres from my location :)  ]
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
>> - - - - - - - 'The Playpen'  at  www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - -
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The Illawarra and Shoalhaven areas have missed many of the rain events this
year. Concern about the fire situation in the Shoalhaven has seen the fire
season start brought forward to the 1st September.

The news report I heard said that during the last bout of west winds that up
to 5 tons of fuel per hectare was stripped off trees and is now drying and
waiting.

There have already been some nuisance fires over the last week. One about 30
kms SW of Nowra has been burning for four days. On the weekend some minor
grass fires were also lit in the Shellharbour area, no doubt by the same
mentality of individual that has smashed over 400 windows of the local high
school in the past year.

Michael Thompson
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Hi all,

There are a few new photos on pages at the PAA Online site and more to go
up soon.

Photo Gallery 4 (http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery4.htm) has,
at the top of the page, 'Tongue of Flame' cloud - unusual smoke fire cloud
in the sunset looks as though it is catching alight! 

Also at Photo gallery 14
(http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/photogallery14.htm) there is a photo of
ducks swimming in mist over water at sunrise -  a nice picture. 

...and on the same page a frost photo of the ground around Katoomba, Blue
Mountains in New South Wales. (at bottom of the page)

Thanks Damian, it's one of yours...

8-)

More soon.

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Hi,

We had a squall to 35 knots recorded by davis weather station at our home
with a change this evening. Lack of good showers but nice wind gust
actually. Adelaide Airport reported heavy showers as well thru the aviation
metar. Hopefully for better one this weekend.

From Nathan Thompson.

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> Ho hum,
>
> Once again a bit of a bust.  We just seem to be missing out on the low
> thickness air this year in Adelaide.  All that good stuff going south
> [Andrews story about snow on the beach sounds amazing!  Any pictures of
> snow lying at low levels coming from Tas??].  It was cool and blustery
with
> a fair sea running and some sharp stinging showers.  But not a great deal
> of vertical development and the clouds, while glaciating, were not
> anviling.  No hail.  No thunder.
>
> Next chance Sunday.  Fingers crossed
>
>
>
> >Here in the North East pocket we haven't had too much action either.
Seems
> >that the ranges are blocking me out again. Lots of wind of course and
> >nothing like the coastal regions are experiencing and bugger all rain.
20mm
> >for the month so far :-(
> >Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Phil Bagust" <paisley2 at chariot.net.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:57 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally, Adelaide action today?
> >
> >
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> While the Vics and Taswegians have been enjoying the action, most of
the
> >> real stuff has been passing south of Adelaide.  We've had several cool
> >> breezy days of showers - really the most typical winter pattern of the
> >> whole season - but no grunty cold Cb's, hail, gusters, storms etc.
> >>
> >> Well, that should all change when the next front comes ashore around
3pm
> >> this afternoon.  I'll be at the beach, camera in hand.  I'll report
back
> >if
> >> anything nice happens [please deities, a nice coldy just a few hundred
> >> metres from my location :)  ]
> >>
> >> Phil
> >>
> >> Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> >> - - - - - - - 'The Playpen'  at 
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> >>        "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..."   Noel Coward
> >>
> >>
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Wow! Melbourne looks to be really copping it at present!! 2030
Me too! Point 4 of a mm. Grin. Sort of........
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Hello Simon!

20 Aug 01 18:18, you wrote to All:

 SC> Just wanted to express my views on something that really iritates me.
 SC> = Over Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those advertisers
 SC> that = fly aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or similar).
 SC> = Invariably their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton Bay.

Happens in Melbourne a lot as well.

Tony, VK3JED

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Hello David!

21 Aug 01 15:30, you wrote to All:

 DF> Just found out that the radar the BOM uses pulses 250 times per
 DF> second!!!! That's some refresh rate. The guy I emailed said that they
 DF> could get me the exact frequency, but that may require a maintience
 DF> visit. That sounds expensive so I turned that one down. :-)

Perhaps get that done during their next scheduled maintenance?  Then they could
email you with the answer.

Tony, VK3JED
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Hello Simon!

21 Aug 01 17:31, you wrote to All:

 SC> I notice those "Froggy dot com vandals" are at it again this evening
 SC> in = Brisbane ruining the sunset - too bad if I wanted to take a
 SC> photograph.

I saw it the other day when I was in Brisbane.

 SC> I know it does give us an indication of upper winds. But just as =
 SC> photochemical smog over the wetern suburbs, gives us an indication of
 SC> = temperature inversions, it really doesn't justify such pollution and
 SC> = imposition on everyone.

Well, seems nothing is sacred from the almighty dollar these days. :-(

As for the inversions, I have a smog free way of detecting them... an ordinary
VHF TV, FM receiver or a scanner will often sus out the inversions - just look
for signals from places more distant than the usual. :)  Channel 9 TV often
gets interference from Tasmania when an inversion is present over Bass Strait

Tony, VK3JED

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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:35:11 +1000
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Recently I bought a new computer...I made sure it had a good
capture/video card and I got one which I could do AVIs/record back to
VHS on.  I finally managed to play with some trials, but were
disappointed when they were 60-80mb each.  So I converted them to
RealPlayer format and they're much smaller (1mb or less)!  But the
quality isn't quite as good...I'd be interested on people's feedback on
what they thought (re quality) if possible - thanks!

The first one:

http://www.virtualchaser.com/anthony/November%205.rm
(500kb - strike about 300m away, frame by frame shows the strike hit
behind the tree, but look in the bottom right hand corner and you can
see a reflection of the stirke on the camera lens!  <I don't believe
this is a streamer>  Followed by a nice crack of thunder immediately
after the strike.

The second one contains profanities - please do not listen to this if
you will be offended by this!!!!!  (It is however one of my favourite
strikes although you can't see the bolt :(  )

http://www.virtualchaser.com/anthony/October%2017.rm
(1.2mb - 12:30am in the morning, a small storm moved off the border
ranges over the Gold Coast, you can see some torrential rain blown by
strong winds, then a close strike (300-400m) blacks out the entire area
with an enormous crack of thunder (and an emotional outburst of
stormgasm by yours truly).
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Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 23:40:49 +1000
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Hi Simon,

Agreed.  But perhaps it would not be too bad to think that in the
future, during very quiet winters, we might be able to create a picture
of a supercell in the sky?  Perhaps one of the few times shear would be
too strong for supercells here :)

AC

> Simon Clarke wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Just wanted to express my views on something that really iritates me.
> Over Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those advertisers
> that fly aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or
> similar).  Invariably their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton
> Bay.
> 
> Who allows this to happen ???? Is it legal ???
> 
> "Frog" something or other, is all I could make out on the week-end.
> There is enough pollution that goes up there without advertising
> pollution.
> 
> Now I've got that off my chest, back to 'non artificial' weather
> watching.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Simon

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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 07:16:40 +1000
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7.10am 22 Aug. 

HI all. 

Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
very soon. RTA patrolling roads.  

Anyone have snow other areas. ?? 

Dave
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Bx Police advise ice and snow has closed Oconnell Rd 6Km from Oberon. 

Police car and 6 other cars have stopped in think snow and ice and are
not going anywhere.

East Bound lanes from Bathurst, closed due to accident early this 
morning. Also heavy snow falling.  

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http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html 

Only avail to update this page until approx 8.45am today.. 

Will update from work by email with road reports. 

At this stage looks like Great Western Hwy will close at Mt Lambie.
Mitchell Hwy to Orange is being patrolled now. 

DAve
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My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
Mountains dwellers??

Andrew.


David Carroll wrote:
> 
> 7.10am 22 Aug.
> 
> HI all.
> 
> Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
> very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
> 
> Anyone have snow other areas. ??
> 
> Dave
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From: "Tina Jones" <bjones14 at postoffice.csu.edu.au>
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I checked out your web page,  where did you get your weather station
from?????

What sort of $$$ are there and how many different types.

I'd love something like that, but have no $$.  Any suggestions.
Tina :-)
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> http://www.hotkey.net.au/~davidkc/snowreports.html
>
> Only avail to update this page until approx 8.45am today..
>
> Will update from work by email with road reports.
>
> At this stage looks like Great Western Hwy will close at Mt Lambie.
> Mitchell Hwy to Orange is being patrolled now.
>
> DAve
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<x-html>
<html><div style='background-color:'><DIV>My wife is from Florida, and I keep an eye on the headlines from her local newsaper online.<BR>The latest breaking news there, is of a tornado and couple of funnel clouds that dropped down near Miami International Airport. There's some nice video footage of one of the funnel clouds too:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The article:</DIV>
<DIV><IMG height=16 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emarrow_right.gif" width=16><A href="http://www.sunsentinal.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-821tornado.story?coll=sfla%2Dhome%2Dheadlines">http://www.sunsentinal.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-821tornado.story?coll=sfla%2Dhome%2Dheadlines</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Real Player footage of funnel:</DIV>
<DIV><IMG height=16 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emexclaim.gif" width=16><A href="http://www.sunsentinal.com/news/local/southflorida/0821tornado.realvideo?coll=sfla%2Dhome%2Dheadlines">http://www.sunsentinal.com/news/local/southflorida/0821tornado.realvideo?coll=sfla%2Dhome%2Dheadlines</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Simon</DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html>
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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:16:12 +1000
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Hi

Tim Grugeon just called, he has reports of sleet/light snow on the peaks
of his familys property near Scone, (900m) and is taking a trip to some
higher hills (1200), so hopefully he will get some settled snow on the
ground !

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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:02:23 +1000
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Hi all,
I just spoke to my father who is on our property near Scone. He said that on
top of the highest peak, which is nearly 900m, there was a passing
sleet/snow shower just a little while ago. The Barrington Tops is definitely
copping it as it is very dark up towards that area. There is some cold cu's
about towards the west and north west.

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Maitland, NSW
http://hunterweather.port5.com


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> My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
> Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
> snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
> Mountains dwellers??
>
> Andrew.
>
>
> David Carroll wrote:
> >
> > 7.10am 22 Aug.
> >
> > HI all.
> >
> > Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
> > very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
> >
> > Anyone have snow other areas. ??
> >
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From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au
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The Blue Mountain dwellers? Probably out enjoying the good stuff (I'm
talking about snow!).  :)

Interestingly enough, GASP had this one a few days out, and AVN has been
hinting at sub-540 levels for today for the last 2 days, however it was
rather conservative, given that thicknesses of around 535 are now present in
the Blue Mountains region.

From 5:17am today (BoM):
IDN1006103 CENTRAL TABLELANDS Wednesday Sheep Graziers Warning and a land
gale warning are current. Rain easing to showers during the day, falling as
snow above about 800 metres later. Strong to gale force northwest winds
turning southwest of similar strength during the day. 


Mal Ninnes
(Western Sydney)


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> 
> My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
> Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
> snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
> Mountains dwellers??
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> 
> David Carroll wrote:
> > 
> > 7.10am 22 Aug.
> > 
> > HI all.
> > 
> > Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
> > very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
> > 
> > Anyone have snow other areas. ??
> > 
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Phoned friend in Oberon about 30 min ago 10.15am, snow still happening in
Oberon..  Also heard Snowing at Mt Canobolas , road was closed.

Unable to hear radio scanner at work..  .

Dave

Bathurst
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My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
Mountains dwellers??

Andrew.


David Carroll wrote:
>
> 7.10am 22 Aug.
>
> HI all.
>
> Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
> very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
>
> Anyone have snow other areas. ??
>
> Dave
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Subject: aus-wx: Wind Warning
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Batten down the hatches everyone,, looks like another nice storm on the way
from Parkes

IDN28000
PRIORITY
NSW Wind Warning for Land Areas
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 0851 on Wednesday the 22nd of August 2001
Northwest to southwest winds are expected to reach gale force today in the
following weather forecast districts


SOUTHERN TABLELANDS
SOUTHWEST SLOPES
SOUTH COAST
ILLAWARRA
CENTRAL TABLELANDS
NORTHERN TABLELANDS
MID NORTH COAST
HUNTER
METROPOLITAN
CENTRAL WEST SLOPES

*Additions to previous warning.

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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Australian data available for Digital Atmosphere users
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I know we have several Digital Atmosphere users on the list. DA is Tim
Vasquez's data analysis and weather-map plotting/drawing program which,
IMHO, is the best easy-to-use one available. Details are at
http://www.weathergraphics.com/da/index.htm.

I'm now putting real-time Australian data suitable for importing into DA on
the web. Details of the data are below. The files import into DA ok for me
and allow me to make 3-hourly surface plots without downloading global data.
Apart from the advantage of not having to download huge files to get what
you want, it also overcomes the non-standard nature of Australian reporting
times.

I'll add upper air data in a few days, and an archive and possibly hourly
metar reports later after testing the system. The data should be updated
hourly on the half hour, but there are no guarantees until I fine tune the
system :-)

Surface land data is available at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/$DIGATMS

This is a mock-up WMO SYNOP file, containing all Australian observations I
receive via the Bureau's CMSS system and ftp (IDY) files. The file is broken
down into bulletins for midnight, 3,6,9am, noon, 3,6,9pm local time, and the
times given in the bulletin headers are all local time. Therefore, the 0900
bulletin will include 9am reports from NSW, SA, WA etc, even though these
are at 2300, 2330 and 0100 UTC respectively. While this is a bit of a fudge,
it has some advantages in keeping rainfall reporting periods and station
densities together -- each bulletin will have rainfall obs for 24, 6 or 3
hour periods.

Data in the obs, where available, are:

Cloud types, low amount, total amount, lowest cloud base
Visibility
Wind direction, speed (knots)
Dry bulb, Dew point
MSL corrected pressure, tendency type and amount
Present and past weather
Rainfall amount and period.

NB: rainfall for 3 hour periods (typically reported at 6am, noon, 6pm,
midnight) is not available on international exchange bulletins such as FSU,
as it is reported in the national exchange section only. There is also no
code for 3-hours, and DA has no provision for 3 hours. I have therefore used
the code for 1 hour duration (Rm=5) to mean 3 hours. In DA, select PCP01 in
the surface plot model, and precipitation for 1 hour in the analysis menu to
get the 3-hourly rainfall amounts/plots.

Surface ship obs are available at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/$DIGATMB and give the same basic
information.

These are all ship obs in the Australian region. Bulletin times are in
Eastern Standard Time, so 00 UTC ship obs, for example, are in a bulletin
carrying the time 10.00 EST. If you want to plot a nominal 00 UTC bulletin,
therefore, you have the options of selecting 09.00 and 10.00 if you want all
reports plotted, or just 09.00 if you want only land reports.

Both the land and ship bulletins accumulate data through the day and start
again from empty at midnight.

What I'd like now is feedback on how the data is working in your DA setup,
and any changes or improvements that would be desirable. It would also be
interesting to know just who on the list is using DA in Australia. If, as I
suspect, there are not many, it may be best to move further discussions off
list.

Laurier


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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily (and the chance of more)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:53:18 +1000
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Alas, no snow on the Blue Mountains yet, apart from a short snow shower
around 8am here at Blackheath. It looked promising for a while as the front
went through, but although there was thick cloud cover and the temp dropped
to 0.5 between 8 and 9am, only about 1cm (1mm melted) fell -- not enough to
settle. Temp at 1pm is 5.0 with dew point 1.2, and neither the IR nor water
vapour images hold out much hope for anything of substance. Looking at the
1pm obs, the snow line is likely to be about 1200m (= temp 2 degrees) at
present, so the high country south of Oberon may be getting some. Oberon
didn't report in at 9am.

The models keep the airmass cold (535 to 540) over central eastern and
southeastern NSW until late tomorrow morning, and although neither LAPS nor
meso-LAPS suggest much if any precipitation north of the Southern
Tablelands, meso-LAPS moves the boundary of more humid air at 850hPa
northwards up the western side of the ranges overnight. This would suggest a
thickening of the rather inoccuous CuSc currently banked up against the
ranges, and with winds turning more SW to SSW there could well be enough
light snow and ice to be a problem in the Lithgow/Orange/Black Springs
triangle overnight with the outside chance of a light fall on the Blue
Mountains.

Meanwhile, GASP, MRF and the EC are all going for another major intrusion of
cold air moving in behind a short-lived ridge late in the weekend, with a
sub-534 pool over NSW on Sunday evening. It's a pity the resultant weather
isn't living up to the models at present.

Laurier


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> NinnesM at franklins.com.au
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily
>
>
> The Blue Mountain dwellers? Probably out enjoying the good stuff (I'm
> talking about snow!).  :)
>
> Interestingly enough, GASP had this one a few days out, and AVN has been
> hinting at sub-540 levels for today for the last 2 days, however it was
> rather conservative, given that thicknesses of around 535 are now
> present in
> the Blue Mountains region.
>
> From 5:17am today (BoM):
> IDN1006103 CENTRAL TABLELANDS Wednesday Sheep Graziers Warning and a land
> gale warning are current. Rain easing to showers during the day,
> falling as
> snow above about 800 metres later. Strong to gale force northwest winds
> turning southwest of similar strength during the day.
>
>
> Mal Ninnes
> (Western Sydney)
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: 	Andrew Miskelly[SMTP:amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
> > Sent: 	Wednesday, 22 August 2001 8:50
> > To: 	aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: 	Re: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily
> >
> > My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
> > Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
> > snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
> > Mountains dwellers??
> >
> > Andrew.
> >
> >
> > David Carroll wrote:
> > >
> > > 7.10am 22 Aug.
> > >
> > > HI all.
> > >
> > > Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western HWY
> > > very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
> > >
> > > Anyone have snow other areas. ??
> > >
> > > Dave
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Well done Laurier !

I knew you would manage it eventually !   I still want to know how to
strip the Aus data out of the huge WMO files, if you can, but
obviously, direct BoM data is easier faster and more compact.  130 -
180 Kb / day sure beats the hell out of about 30Mb data downloads of
WMO files / day !

Now that USING DA2000 for Aus is EASY - many more people should
embrace it.  Hopefully we might get a few more converts.  (They are
mugs if they don't).

Just threw up a few charts pronto to show the others a quick sample of
what it (DA2000 and your data) can do for them. The URL is: 
http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/AUS/AUSmet/LaurierDA2000charts/

Regards
PeterC
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Hi Matt and others,

I just came back from Mt Allyn (1200m), which is near that Barrington Tops.
There was no snow about and by the time I got there much of the
precipitation around the mountains had stopped and cleared to sunshine. Snow
could be seen from the lookout around Careys Peak (1550m), but it appeared
only very light. It was made visible only be the sun shining, which
reflected a bright white.
Ah well, I think it has to be proberly the best fall this season on the
Barringtons even though it was nothing exciting. So far this season it has
been the poorest season for snow on the Barrington Tops for quiet a while.
Hmmm, maybe next year. :o(

-Tim

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> Hi
>
> Tim Grugeon just called, he has reports of sleet/light snow on the peaks
> of his familys property near Scone, (900m) and is taking a trip to some
> higher hills (1200), so hopefully he will get some settled snow on the
> ground !
>
> Matt Smith
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From: NinnesM at franklins.com.au
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily (and the chance of more)
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:04:28 +1000
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Thanks Laurier, I always look forward to your model analysis.    I agree
about the weather not living up to the model output - it's a shame when the
500-1000 thickness shows it'll be cold enough, but above 900mb it's
relatively dry and there's nowhere near enough moisture around to cause
sleet or snow

Mal Ninnes


> ----------
> From: 	Laurier Williams[SMTP:wbc at ozemail.com.au]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, 22 August 2001 13:53
> To: 	aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: 	RE: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily (and the chance of more)
> 
> Alas, no snow on the Blue Mountains yet, apart from a short snow shower
> around 8am here at Blackheath. It looked promising for a while as the
> front
> went through, but although there was thick cloud cover and the temp
> dropped
> to 0.5 between 8 and 9am, only about 1cm (1mm melted) fell -- not enough
> to
> settle. Temp at 1pm is 5.0 with dew point 1.2, and neither the IR nor
> water
> vapour images hold out much hope for anything of substance. Looking at the
> 1pm obs, the snow line is likely to be about 1200m (= temp 2 degrees) at
> present, so the high country south of Oberon may be getting some. Oberon
> didn't report in at 9am.
> 
> The models keep the airmass cold (535 to 540) over central eastern and
> southeastern NSW until late tomorrow morning, and although neither LAPS
> nor
> meso-LAPS suggest much if any precipitation north of the Southern
> Tablelands, meso-LAPS moves the boundary of more humid air at 850hPa
> northwards up the western side of the ranges overnight. This would suggest
> a
> thickening of the rather inoccuous CuSc currently banked up against the
> ranges, and with winds turning more SW to SSW there could well be enough
> light snow and ice to be a problem in the Lithgow/Orange/Black Springs
> triangle overnight with the outside chance of a light fall on the Blue
> Mountains.
> 
> Meanwhile, GASP, MRF and the EC are all going for another major intrusion
> of
> cold air moving in behind a short-lived ridge late in the weekend, with a
> sub-534 pool over NSW on Sunday evening. It's a pity the resultant weather
> isn't living up to the models at present.
> 
> Laurier
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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> > NinnesM at franklins.com.au
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 August, 2001 11:38 AM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily
> >
> >
> > The Blue Mountain dwellers? Probably out enjoying the good stuff (I'm
> > talking about snow!).  :)
> >
> > Interestingly enough, GASP had this one a few days out, and AVN has been
> > hinting at sub-540 levels for today for the last 2 days, however it was
> > rather conservative, given that thicknesses of around 535 are now
> > present in
> > the Blue Mountains region.
> >
> > From 5:17am today (BoM):
> > IDN1006103 CENTRAL TABLELANDS Wednesday Sheep Graziers Warning and a
> land
> > gale warning are current. Rain easing to showers during the day,
> > falling as
> > snow above about 800 metres later. Strong to gale force northwest winds
> > turning southwest of similar strength during the day.
> >
> >
> > Mal Ninnes
> > (Western Sydney)
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: 	Andrew Miskelly[SMTP:amiskelly at ozemail.com.au]
> > > Sent: 	Wednesday, 22 August 2001 8:50
> > > To: 	aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: 	Re: aus-wx: Snowing Heavily
> > >
> > > My mother also reported snow (showers only) in Taralga - I'm stuck in
> > > Wollongong doing assignments! The observations indicate that it's
> > > snowing in Orange and at Mt. Boyce also. Where are all these Blue
> > > Mountains dwellers??
> > >
> > > Andrew.
> > >
> > >
> > > David Carroll wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 7.10am 22 Aug.
> > > >
> > > > HI all.
> > > >
> > > > Snowing heavily at Mt Lambie, possible road closures Great Western
> HWY
> > > > very soon. RTA patrolling roads.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have snow other areas. ??
> > > >
> > > > Dave
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Test-Please Ignore
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:52:41 +1000
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My posts sent around 11am, 2pm and 3pm est all turned up soon after 3pm, so
I think that whatever problem existed has been fixed.

Laurier


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> Creswick
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 August, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com; Tim Grugeon
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>
>
> It lobbed here at 16:31
>
> PeterC
>
> > Tim Grugeon wrote:
> >
> > Sorry all. I am just trying to work out why my emails take that long
> > to get through the server. Please ignore this message.
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From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather vandalism
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 17:28:05 +1000
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>Froggy has been active in Sydney as 
well. It's an Internet provider. There was also one called Assyrian.com (they 
must like to Babylon/babble on). I didn't know they used dry ice though..I 
thought it was just natural vapour at that height.It would be legal as I'm sure 
there would have to be aircraft clearances required, but as you say, it gets a 
bit irritating, unless you turn it into a chance to do some upper air wind 
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  <A href="mailto:nomis66 at bigpond.com" title=nomis66 at bigpond.com>Simon 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 20, 2001 6:18 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Weather vandalism</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just wanted to express my views on something that 
  really iritates me. Over Brisbane skies with increasing frequency are those 
  advertisers that fly aircraft up and grafitti the sky with dry ice (or 
  similar).&nbsp;&nbsp;Invariably their mess is carried eastwards over Moreton 
  Bay.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Who allows this to happen&nbsp;???? Is it legal 
  ??? </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Frog" something or other, is all I could make 
  out on the week-end. There is enough pollution that goes up there without 
  advertising pollution.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Now I've got that off my chest, back to 'non 
  artificial' weather watching.</FONT></DIV>
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From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: weather changes
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HI all. .

Some changes this afternoon to the south of Bathurst, extreme low cloud
level towards Oberon way..  High winds and rain hit approx 45 min ago in
Bathurst.

These changes happend very fast this afternoon..

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Yeah same here. Thats not too bad. I sent a message this morning and took
over two hours before it went through.


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Test-Please Ignore


> It lobbed here at 16:31
>
> PeterC
>
> > Tim Grugeon wrote:
> >
> > Sorry all. I am just trying to work out why my emails take that long
> > to get through the server. Please ignore this message.
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From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
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Subject: aus-wx: Snow and flooding
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:51:27 +1000
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Hey all,

Well, after such a long time with nothing to chase out here,
I finally got something.

After seeing the BoM forecast snow down to 500m, my friend
Peter and I decided to head up to Mt. William. Upon arrival,
I realised that I would have liked to have a jacket with me
(I only had my ASWA jumper...which worked fantastically once
again), but started walking to the summit anyway. About
500m's into the 1.8km walk from the car park to the summit,
we started to get some small hail/ice pellets, which I took
a digicam image of it on Peter's beanie.

We then continued on walking (to which we both found out
were are fairly unfit) and in which about 300m from the
summit, we ran into our first patches of snow. This was my
first experience with snow, and it shows on the video...lol.
We then continued on after a few digicam pics and video to
the summit. On the way up, we heard some banging at the Air
Services towers, but just dismissed it as wires banging
together or something. We were to find out that this wasn't
the case when we reached the top.

Upon reaching the summit and the Air Services towers, we
found out what the banging was. The ice that had formed on
the sides of the tower were being broken away by the force
of the wind which was about 30+ knots, and was banging
against the buildings and towers in their fall. This amazed
us, and for some reason, we decided to stand on the downwind
side of these towers, which proved to be a majorly wrong
move, as about 5 minutes after, I ended up being hit with a
small piece of ice, directly in the ear!!! We also had ice
bombs larger than a fist dropping around us, and in some
cases, pieces about 2 meters in length falling to the ground
around us.

After getting a bit of film of this, we walked around to the
actual summit. After standing on the summit for a couple of
minutes, it started snowing again...I'd finally stood in
falling snow. Peter then collected some snow and made a
small snowman, in which I couldn't resist and continued on
the tradition of Armadale on the SDS retreat and made a
"snow jimmy".

After about another 5 minutes up there, we headed back to
the Air Services towers, where we decided that we had enough
for one day, and started slowly heading down. After a drive
back through Halls Gap, we started heading towards Stawell,
but not long out of Halls Gap, we noticed some detour signs
o the Lake Fyans road due to flooding. We stopped, and
walked about 200m to the bridge, where there was some minor
flooding across the road. After some digicam pics, we
decoded to head back to Pete's place. On the way back, the
weather forecast from the BoM came on the radio, in which it
said that Ararat was going for -3C tonight, in which we are
going to head back up to Mt. William early tomorrow morning
to see if we can score some more snow.

The pics from today should be online before the weekend
sometime. Time for a nice, hot meal and a shower now :o)

PaulY

Paul Yole
Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA
Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter
Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA
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Subject: aus-wx: Funnel cloud over Auckland
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I observed a nice funnel cloud over Auckland today. 
It was associated with a band of cumulonimbus crossing AK</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>from the west. The funnel was observable for 
several minutes before disappearing in rain. No camera at work so</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I missed out of the photo.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Tasman sea is full of cb activity at the 
moment, a result of all that cold air that's been pouring across SE 
Australia</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and into the Tasman creating unstable conditions. 
Actually its been quite mild here lately with temps upto 20C</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow and flooding
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 18:32:46 +1000
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Hi Paul,

Just one word...WOW!!!! That is like those stories you hear from Canada and
the US about ice storms. To get that much iced built up over the towers it
must have been below freezing for quiet sometime. I have seen large amounts
of ice building up in the Snowy's on buildings, power lines and on the
actual chair lift cables. Often when they start to melt slightly, they drop
off and can be a hazed if the sheets or prisms are large enough. It must
have been fascinating to see that at such low elevations!!

Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://hunterweather.port5.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 5:51 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Snow and flooding


> Hey all,
>
> Well, after such a long time with nothing to chase out here,
> I finally got something.
>
> After seeing the BoM forecast snow down to 500m, my friend
> Peter and I decided to head up to Mt. William. Upon arrival,
> I realised that I would have liked to have a jacket with me
> (I only had my ASWA jumper...which worked fantastically once
> again), but started walking to the summit anyway. About
> 500m's into the 1.8km walk from the car park to the summit,
> we started to get some small hail/ice pellets, which I took
> a digicam image of it on Peter's beanie.
>
> We then continued on walking (to which we both found out
> were are fairly unfit) and in which about 300m from the
> summit, we ran into our first patches of snow. This was my
> first experience with snow, and it shows on the video...lol.
> We then continued on after a few digicam pics and video to
> the summit. On the way up, we heard some banging at the Air
> Services towers, but just dismissed it as wires banging
> together or something. We were to find out that this wasn't
> the case when we reached the top.
>
> Upon reaching the summit and the Air Services towers, we
> found out what the banging was. The ice that had formed on
> the sides of the tower were being broken away by the force
> of the wind which was about 30+ knots, and was banging
> against the buildings and towers in their fall. This amazed
> us, and for some reason, we decided to stand on the downwind
> side of these towers, which proved to be a majorly wrong
> move, as about 5 minutes after, I ended up being hit with a
> small piece of ice, directly in the ear!!! We also had ice
> bombs larger than a fist dropping around us, and in some
> cases, pieces about 2 meters in length falling to the ground
> around us.
>
> After getting a bit of film of this, we walked around to the
> actual summit. After standing on the summit for a couple of
> minutes, it started snowing again...I'd finally stood in
> falling snow. Peter then collected some snow and made a
> small snowman, in which I couldn't resist and continued on
> the tradition of Armadale on the SDS retreat and made a
> "snow jimmy".
>
> After about another 5 minutes up there, we headed back to
> the Air Services towers, where we decided that we had enough
> for one day, and started slowly heading down. After a drive
> back through Halls Gap, we started heading towards Stawell,
> but not long out of Halls Gap, we noticed some detour signs
> o the Lake Fyans road due to flooding. We stopped, and
> walked about 200m to the bridge, where there was some minor
> flooding across the road. After some digicam pics, we
> decoded to head back to Pete's place. On the way back, the
> weather forecast from the BoM came on the radio, in which it
> said that Ararat was going for -3C tonight, in which we are
> going to head back up to Mt. William early tomorrow morning
> to see if we can score some more snow.
>
> The pics from today should be online before the weekend
> sometime. Time for a nice, hot meal and a shower now :o)
>
> PaulY
>
> Paul Yole
> Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA
> Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter
> Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA
> Cell # - +61 418 369 256
> Home# - +61 35 385 2699
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "T Middleton" <anvil_industries at hotmail.com>
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: more Wonthaggi wind/storm damage photography
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:06:55 
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hi all,
I have finally have got a few more photos from Fridays wind damage in 
Wonthaggi online.I am currently working on putting a brief report together 
too , but there is too much weather happening ATM to waste time in front of 
the computer  <G>
winds have eased here now but we have some flooding instead :)

http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/wm01.1.htm
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/wm01.2.htm
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/wm01.3.htm
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/wm01.4.htm

more to come soon/later  (depends on the weather)

regards tm
Anvil Industries
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils



>From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter)
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather)
>Subject: aus-wx: Wonthaggi
>Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 13:29:03 +1000 (EST)
>
>
>Les (Ballarat, not radar central) inquired:
>
> > Now what happened at wanthaggi? Was it a tornado? It was also very windy
> > last night here too.
>
>A spotter report this morning after 6am spoke of damage to a number
>of houses in (or near) Wonthaggi (VIC).  Some of the BOM severe weather
>people are inspecting the evidence today to decide on straight-line
>winds versus cold-season tornado as the cause for the damage.
>
>The Laverton radar reflectivity from this morning showed some fast-moving 
>convective
>cells going SW-NE,  but the radar did not scream "wow" at me.
>
>Harald
>
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From: David Findlay <david_j_findlay at yahoo.com.au>
Organization: Davsoft
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian data available for Digital Atmosphere users
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 23:43:49 +1000
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On Wednesday 22 August 2001 14:55, Laurier Williams hit his keyboard with his 
head and the result was this:
> I know we have several Digital Atmosphere users on the list. DA is Tim
> Vasquez's data analysis and weather-map plotting/drawing program which,
> IMHO, is the best easy-to-use one available. Details are at
> http://www.weathergraphics.com/da/index.htm.

Cool. Can you load the radar data into DA using this?

David
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Subject: RE: aus-wx:snow northern Tablelands Saturday night? 
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Looking at the maps for Saturday night there appears to be a cold pool of
air over the Northern tablelands.

Thinking of going up armidale way early Sunday morning to try and see some
snow.

What do others think and secondly where is the best place to see snow - may
even get the old x countries out for a joke.

Ian Isles

Coffs Harbour




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David Findlay wrote:

>
> Cool. Can you load the radar data into DA using this?
>
No. DA works with US coded radar data, but there is no equivalent in
Australia. The US also put out coded analyses and warning "watches" that DA
decodes but have no Australian equivalent. The main usefulness of DA for our
purposes is in analysing surface synoptic and hourly AWS data, and upper air
data from balloons and aircraft reports.

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 From last night's GASP run it looks much more likely on Monday to me with 
a cold pool centred over the Central Tablelands.

MB

At 09:08 AM 23/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:

>Looking at the maps for Saturday night there appears to be a cold pool of
>air over the Northern tablelands.
>
>Thinking of going up armidale way early Sunday morning to try and see some
>snow.
>
>What do others think and secondly where is the best place to see snow - may
>even get the old x countries out for a joke.
>
>Ian Isles
>
>Coffs Harbour
>
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Looks like were in for a rough night over here in the SW 
Corner of WA and tomorrow morning, A Wind Gust to 120 Km/H has allready been 
reported from Cape Lewuin  at  11:20 this Morning, Squalls to 65 Knts&nbsp;+ are 
exspected latter on this evening. This could be a good possiblity of Winter 
Tornadoes with the pasage of this front, going by what we have already got and 
the front is due till latter on tonight. Will keep ya's informed of any futher 
developments as they happen. For those intrested below you will find the Severe 
Wind Warning, snip from the coastal winds warning and the Perth Metro Forecast 
issued  at  11:50 AM WST today....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>IDW28100<BR>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY <BR>WESTERN AUSTRALIAN 
REGIONAL OFFICE<BR><BR>PRIORITY<BR>FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST<BR><BR>SEVERE WIND 
WARNING<BR>Issued at 11:50 am WST on Thursday, 23 August 2001<BR><BR>For land 
areas southwest of a line from Jurien Bay to Bremer Bay including the<BR>Perth 
metropolitan area, Mandurah, Bunbury, Busselton and Albany.<BR><BR>The passage 
of a cold front across the region this afternoon and this evening is<BR>expected 
to cause damaging wind gusts to 120 kilometres per hour. There is also<BR>the 
risk of thunderstorms.<BR><BR>A severe wind gust of 120 kilometres per hour was 
reported from Cape Leeuwin at<BR>11:20 am.<BR><BR>The State Emergency Service 
advises that people should secure loose objects and<BR>stay indoors when gales 
develop. Boat owners should ensure that small craft are<BR>securely 
moored.<BR><BR>The next advice will be issued at 3:00 pm.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>IDW12300<BR>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY <BR>WESTERN AUSTRALIAN 
REGIONAL OFFICE<BR><BR>FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA<BR>Issued at 
11:57am WST on Thursday the 23rd of August 2001 for the remainder of<BR>today 
and Friday&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>FORECAST:<BR>A Severe Wind Warning is 
current.<BR>A Road Weather Alert is current.<BR>Showers, heavy at times, with 
the risk of thunderstorms. Strong and squally<BR>NW'ly winds, shifting colder 
SW'ly tomorrow. <BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TODAY'S 
TEMPERATURE:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Maximum: 20 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TOMORROW'S TEMPERATURES:&nbsp; Minimum: 
10&nbsp; Maximum: 15 <BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TODAY'S UV 
INDEX:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4 [HIGH]&nbsp; <BR><BR>The overnight minimum was 
5.5 at 0444 hours<BR><BR>A Severe Wind Warning, and a Road Weather Alert has 
been issued.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>&lt;snip from Coastal wind Warning&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Jurien Bay to Mandurah: Gale Warning current.<BR>NW winds 
strengthening to 30/40 knots during this afternoon, with squalls to 
60<BR>knots.<BR>Seas rising to 3.0m. Swell 1.0m.<BR><BR>Mandurah to Bremer Bay: 
Gale / Storm Warning current.<BR>NW winds 40/50 knots near Cape Leeuwin at 
first, extending north to Mandurah,<BR>and east to Bremer Bay, during the 
afternoon and evening. Squalls to 65 knots. <BR>Seas 2.0m, rising to 3.0m. Swell 
1.0m, rising to 2.0m later.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>MJ.</FONT></DIV>
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Hi all,

Mark has just called to say a tornado has hit the suburb of Rolleystone, 
which is about 30ks inland. He is surveying the scene where large trees and 
power lines have been brought down, some trees twisted off at the tops and 
much destruction has occurred. The tornado struck about 4pm. Mark will 
provide details later when he gets home.

regards, Michael


At 02:35 PM 23/8/2001 +0800, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Looks like were in for a rough night over here in the SW Corner of WA and 
>tomorrow morning, A Wind Gust to 120 Km/H has allready been reported from 
>Cape Lewuin  at  11:20 this Morning, Squalls to 65 Knts + are exspected 
>latter on this evening. This could be a good possiblity of Winter 
>Tornadoes with the pasage of this front, going by what we have already got 
>and the front is due till latter on tonight. Will keep ya's informed of 
>any futher developments as they happen. For those intrested below you will 
>find the Severe Wind Warning, snip from the coastal winds warning and the 
>Perth Metro Forecast issued  at  11:50 AM WST today....
>
>IDW28100
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
>WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>PRIORITY
>FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST
>
>SEVERE WIND WARNING
>Issued at 11:50 am WST on Thursday, 23 August 2001
>
>For land areas southwest of a line from Jurien Bay to Bremer Bay including the
>Perth metropolitan area, Mandurah, Bunbury, Busselton and Albany.
>
>The passage of a cold front across the region this afternoon and this 
>evening is
>expected to cause damaging wind gusts to 120 kilometres per hour. There is 
>also
>the risk of thunderstorms.
>
>A severe wind gust of 120 kilometres per hour was reported from Cape 
>Leeuwin at
>11:20 am.
>
>The State Emergency Service advises that people should secure loose 
>objects and
>stay indoors when gales develop. Boat owners should ensure that small 
>craft are
>securely moored.
>
>The next advice will be issued at 3:00 pm.
>
>
>IDW12300
>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
>WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE
>
>FORECAST FOR THE PERTH METROPOLITAN AREA
>Issued at 11:57am WST on Thursday the 23rd of August 2001 for the remainder of
>today and Friday
>
>FORECAST:
>A Severe Wind Warning is current.
>A Road Weather Alert is current.
>Showers, heavy at times, with the risk of thunderstorms. Strong and squally
>NW'ly winds, shifting colder SW'ly tomorrow.
>
>
>     TODAY'S TEMPERATURE:                   Maximum: 20
>     TOMORROW'S TEMPERATURES:  Minimum: 10  Maximum: 15
>     TODAY'S UV INDEX:     4 [HIGH]
>
>The overnight minimum was 5.5 at 0444 hours
>
>A Severe Wind Warning, and a Road Weather Alert has been issued.
>
><snip from Coastal wind Warning>
>
>Jurien Bay to Mandurah: Gale Warning current.
>NW winds strengthening to 30/40 knots during this afternoon, with squalls 
>to 60
>knots.
>Seas rising to 3.0m. Swell 1.0m.
>
>Mandurah to Bremer Bay: Gale / Storm Warning current.
>NW winds 40/50 knots near Cape Leeuwin at first, extending north to Mandurah,
>and east to Bremer Bay, during the afternoon and evening. Squalls to 65 
>knots.
>Seas 2.0m, rising to 3.0m. Swell 1.0m, rising to 2.0m later.
>
>
>MJ.
>
>


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Jason from Karratha saved the radar while this storm went through the Perth
area, you can see the local loop at:

http://www.kisser.net.au/kevans/weather/radar/07200820local.gif

You will notice a small pink dot almost right over where Rolleystone would
be, in the SE suburbs, on the 7:40 UTC frame (3:40pm Perth time), and this
is around the same time that the possible tornado hit the area.

I was at work at the time (near Jandakot) when the storms went through, we
had lots of thunder, heavy rain and very windy conditions. I heard on a
news report that Jandakot Airport had 90km/h + gusts.

Jacob


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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 06:39:03 +1000
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Hi all,

Interesting to notice the strengthening of the jet over the Coral Sea
overnight.  You can see that the upper level trough off the coast of
Australia has amplified/pushed NNW slightly and the tip has pushed
towards SE QLD.  The Brisbane sounding shows some minor cooling at
500mb, although not much significant (-18 to -20C).

Interestingly, DPs did not crash last night like they have for the past
week or more - they stayed up, and E'lies prevailed over many areas
until the temperatures got quite cold (<10C) and then they went to a
landbreeze.

As the day heats up, I expect Brisbanites might enjoy seeing clouds
higher than 5m high (WAHOO!!!), especially along the coastal regions. 
In fact, radar shows some showers just to the east of Moreton Bay
(nearly tempted to take a drive to see some distant congestus!)  

I would expect that the upper level temperatures throughout might drop
another 1-2C still during the course of the day.  Naturally, shear will
be a little slack (except in the upper levels), because of the position
we'll be in the upper trough.

The "wildcard" for today, is should E'ly winds strengthen quickly
throughout the low levels (we would need to the high to get a move on
into the Tasman - which looks like it will), and give us a sharp
moisture return.  We'd only need a PBL average DP of 9-10C for something
more substantial to happen, however it would be very coastal as I don't
think the moisture would get inland very far - but the situation from
recollection looks a little similar to August 23 last year?  Although
much riskier and you have to look at it in hopeful/miracle eyes - but if
the winds did quickly go E today that potential would be there.

AC
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
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From: David Findlay <david_j_findlay at yahoo.com.au>
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On Thursday 23 August 2001 20:00, Michael Bath hit his keyboard with his head 
and the result was this:
> Hi all,
>
> Mark has just called to say a tornado has hit the suburb of Rolleystone,
> which is about 30ks inland. He is surveying the scene where large trees and
> power lines have been brought down, some trees twisted off at the tops and
> much destruction has occurred. The tornado struck about 4pm. Mark will
> provide details later when he gets home.

Is the debris converging or diverging? Was there a funnel seen? Is there 
video of the funnel? House damage(hope not)?

David
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Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 21:47:40 +1000
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Hi all,

Does anyone know where I can get (digital) outlines of the states of
Australia in a mercators projection?

Andrew.
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just got home from TAFE a little while ago and 
notice it was very cold here on the flood plains in Maitland. I took a walk up 
to my stevenson screen at around 9pm and noticed that the temp was 3.6°C. Since 
1994, I have never known it to be that cold so early in the night. The dew point 
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Good morning all,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Well I had the feeling that it was going to be the case at around 9pm last night, and it happened. This morning was the coldest start to the day this year according to my thermometer. It sits out on my balcony which is north facing and sheltered from anything south of west, and through to the NE. At 5:30am this morning it was reading an impressively low 5.1 degrees and seeing as there wasn't any real increase in winds during my cycle ride south, I'd say a temp in the mid 4 degree range was not out of the question. (The temp had dropped 0.4 degrees in the 20 minutes it took me to put all my layers of clothes on.) The most impressive thing is that I am on the second floor, so the thermometer sits around 5-6 metres from ground level, and we are located approx 1km from the coast at North Wollongong. It would have been interesting to see what the temp was at ground level.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Who said winter was dead, and we've still got the cold of Monday to come. Here's hoping for a bit of moisture and a more southerly wind to bring snow to the eastern side of the ranges.</FONT></P>

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Unfortunately, the answer is no David.  Besides the fact that the raw
data is only available from the BoM on subscription at a price that
none of us could individually afford or justify, it is not in a format
that DA can read.  There is a sample data file on one of the BoM ftp
servers that I downloaded once to see what would happen.  Result,
nothing.

You must remember that DA is a program written by an American, Tim
Vasquez.  He is an ex USAF meteorologist and now runs his own company
- Weather Graphics Technologies.  His web site is
http://www.weathergraphics.com.  He has quite a lot of good software
available, and also acts as an agent for a couple of other
meteorologists producing good software, such as John Shewchuk's RAOB
(http://www.raob.com/) which you can download from Tim's page at
http://www.weathergraphics.com/raob/index.htm  Another one that you
may be interested in getting, is a customized site specific data and
forecasting program called WXSIM, written by Tom Ehrensperger of
Atlanta Georgia.  The page for that is
http://www.weathergraphics.com/wxsim/index.htm.  But all that is by
the by.

Getting back to DA and radar, unfortunately, so far as I can figure,
it only reads the US Nexrad data format.  Assuming you have downloaded
a copy of DA to play with (if you have not yet done so, it is about
10Mb and can be got from http://www.weathergraphics.com/da/index.htm )
select a US map, say the Atlantic Seaboard, and go to the internet
download menu and select one of the four available lines that says
"Radar: NEXRAD RCM (from XYZ)" you will see what I mean.  Then let DA
download the data and read it in.  Wait till it says ready, then
select Data on the menu bar, then Radar from the drop down, and it
will give you seven options to plot, namely, Echoes, Storm Centroids,
TVS, Echo Heights, Echo Movements, Hail and Mesocyclones.  When you
bring it up and play with it, you will begin to envy what the yank
chasers can do with this.  Drool a little, then sink into despair. 
Have fun !

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From: "Tina Jones" <bjones14 at postoffice.csu.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Gee it is cold!!!!
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>Well here in Jindabyne, the water 
pipes froze in the house.&nbsp; It hasn't done that since the beginning of June, 
before we got any snow.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Tina :-)</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just got home from TAFE a little while ago and 
  notice it was very cold here on the flood plains in Maitland. I took a walk up 
  to my stevenson screen at around 9pm and noticed that the temp was 3.6°C. 
  Since 1994, I have never known it to be that cold so early in the night. The 
  dew point was still hovering around 0°C, so I say we may get a good looking 
  frost out here in the morning. I just noticed that the Cessnock AWS (<A 
  href="http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95771.shtml">http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95771.shtml</A>) 
  temp is already 1°C at 10pm and it was 1.6°C at 9pm.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tim Grugeon<BR>Maitland, NSW<BR><A 
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Hi All,

Received a report from my sister, who lives in Kelmscott on the border with
Rolleystone and just a km or two from the shopping centre.  She reports
that...

"The sky went very dark and it was really calm, then a tremendous wind came
out of nowhere with large fat raindrops flying horizontally.  The bushes and
palm trees seemed to bend over flat in two directions, as though the wind
came from the North then West.  A number of large trees in the next street
were toppled and and some trees in my street toppled onto houses breaking
through the roofs.  The wind ceased as quickly as it had started.  There was
some thunder and lightning, but no hail and quite a bit of rain."

This description seems to fit best with a severe downburst.  The timing of
the wind arriving with the rain indicates a typical guster situation.  If
there was a tornado locally, she did not observe it despite looking outside
at the time.  How the damage in her immediate vicinity stacks up against the
damage elsewhere in Rolleystone may tell a different picture.

Curiously this location is just 1km from a confirmed F0 'coldie' in the
winter of last year.

John.
>snip

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Hi all,

Mark has just called to say a tornado has hit the suburb of Rolleystone,
which is about 30ks inland. He is surveying the scene where large trees and
power lines have been brought down, some trees twisted off at the tops and
much destruction has occurred. The tornado struck about 4pm. Mark will
provide details later when he gets home.

regards, Michael

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WOooHOOOOO

After 7 days and 7 nights of westerly's and 0/8 cloud cover...
At last.....  CLOUDS!  and an onshore breeze.  Now about 5/8 and
increasing.  Min  at  Mt. Crosby last night 4.9C brrr, the coldest
all week.

John,
>snip

Subject: aus-wx: Relief for (Coastal) Brisbanites?


Hi all,

Interesting to notice the strengthening of the jet over the Coral Sea
overnight.  You can see that the upper level trough off the coast of
Australia has amplified/pushed NNW slightly and the tip has pushed
towards SE QLD.  The Brisbane sounding shows some minor cooling at
500mb, although not much significant (-18 to -20C).

Interestingly, DPs did not crash last night like they have for the past
week or more - they stayed up, and E'lies prevailed over many areas
until the temperatures got quite cold (<10C) and then they went to a
landbreeze.

As the day heats up, I expect Brisbanites might enjoy seeing clouds
higher than 5m high (WAHOO!!!), especially along the coastal regions. 
In fact, radar shows some showers just to the east of Moreton Bay
(nearly tempted to take a drive to see some distant congestus!)  

I would expect that the upper level temperatures throughout might drop
another 1-2C still during the course of the day.  Naturally, shear will
be a little slack (except in the upper levels), because of the position
we'll be in the upper trough.

The "wildcard" for today, is should E'ly winds strengthen quickly
throughout the low levels (we would need to the high to get a move on
into the Tasman - which looks like it will), and give us a sharp
moisture return.  We'd only need a PBL average DP of 9-10C for something
more substantial to happen, however it would be very coastal as I don't
think the moisture would get inland very far - but the situation from
recollection looks a little similar to August 23 last year?  Although
much riskier and you have to look at it in hopeful/miracle eyes - but if
the winds did quickly go E today that potential would be there.

AC
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=262014304-24082001>4.9C  at  
Mt, Crosby in SEQ, makes it the 3rd coldest night this winter following temps of 
2.6C amd 3.9C in July.&nbsp; So pretty widespread cold outbreak.&nbsp; But with 
a return to SE's this morning that is the end of it here.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Good morning all,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well I had the feeling that it was going to be the 
  case at around 9pm last night, and it happened. This morning was the coldest 
  start to the day this year according to my thermometer. It sits out on my 
  balcony which is north facing and sheltered from anything south of west, and 
  through to the NE. At 5:30am this morning it was reading an impressively low 
  5.1 degrees and seeing as there wasn't any real increase in winds during my 
  cycle ride south, I'd say a temp in the mid 4 degree range was not out of the 
  question. (The temp had dropped 0.4 degrees in the 20 minutes it took me to 
  put all my layers of clothes on.) The most impressive thing is that I am on 
  the second floor, so the thermometer sits around 5-6 metres from ground level, 
  and we are located approx 1km from the coast at North Wollongong. It would 
  have been interesting to see what the temp was at ground level.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Who said winter was dead, and we've still got the 
  cold of Monday to come. Here's hoping for a bit of moisture and a more 
  southerly wind to bring snow to the eastern side of the ranges.</FONT></P>
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I may be late with this info, and others may know about it but I just
saw it.
A new radar was installed at Wyndham in far north WA, north of the Halls
Creek radar.
Images are available here :
http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/
And more detail under "media releases" on the BoM page.
I assume ASWA and others subscribed to the radar will get the full broad
and local loops and images.

Matt Smith

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Some great pyro cu to the SWish of Newcastle this afternoon, at the
moment it is the best it has been, looks like a small summertime
updraught, with not another cloud around it, beautiful stuff. No chance
of photos, very glary outside.

You Vics and NSW mountian people must be getting a little excited about
the prospects for the weekend/monday.

Matt Smith

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Don't mean to be rude but a what?
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get (digital) outlines of the states of
> Australia in a mercators projection?
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> Andrew.
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Just got a thing in the mail today about the starting of the Yarrawonga
radar on the 3rd of September. Yarrawonga is in NE Vic for those who don't
know. I can't go because of work :-(
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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>
> I may be late with this info, and others may know about it but I just
> saw it.
> A new radar was installed at Wyndham in far north WA, north of the Halls
> Creek radar.
> Images are available here :
> http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/
> And more detail under "media releases" on the BoM page.
> I assume ASWA and others subscribed to the radar will get the full broad
> and local loops and images.
>
> Matt Smith
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There's also Norfolk Island in the NSW section.

I'll look at adding the radars to the ASWA radar page.

MB

At 04:32 PM 24/8/2001 +1000, you wrote:

>I may be late with this info, and others may know about it but I just
>saw it.
>A new radar was installed at Wyndham in far north WA, north of the Halls
>Creek radar.
>Images are available here :
>http://mirror.bom.gov.au/weather/radar/
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<font face="Verdana">Hi all, <br>
I was recently asked to send in a picture to the site below. The people
chose what they wish and then post it on. Well it only took a week but
the inflow band picture is online at the moment. They wanted one from
Australia.<br><br>
check out
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band picture has been chosen to be posted. Click on the picture for an
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Subject: aus-wx: FW: Looking to the moon for better satellite images
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Looking to the moon for better satellite images
CSIRO NEWS RELEASE
Posted: August 24, 2001

For the first time, the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research
Organisation (CSIRO) of Australia and U.S. scientists are using the moon
to check and calibrate sensors on board weather satellites. 

[snip]

Full story at:

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0108/24moontuned/




Regards,

Anthony Spierings
as029 at bigpond.net.au 

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Hi all,
Tonight both Channel 10 and 9 weather have suggested the chance of
snow on the Adelaide Hills and Flinders Ranges on early Sunday. Anyone
think this is at all possible?
Along with the BOM forecast of rain followed by showers, hail and
thunder, it should be a very interesting weekend.

Tim Eckert
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>Hi all,
>Tonight both Channel 10 and 9 weather have suggested the chance of
>snow on the Adelaide Hills and Flinders Ranges on early Sunday. Anyone
>think this is at all possible?
>Along with the BOM forecast of rain followed by showers, hail and
>thunder, it should be a very interesting weekend.
>
>Tim Eckert
>Adelaide.
>
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Tim

My best bet is that you get up very early Sunday morning and go outside.
If it's fairly clear, but with isolated glaciating Cbs around and a layer
of 'fluffy' looking low cloud on the hills, and if there is a real chill in
the air that is not the same as a frosty chill [ie. there's a decent
breeze] - then go chasing!  I did in 98 and got rewarded with some
excellent snowshowers, and last year as well.

Then again if the coldest air arrives a few hours too early, It'll be dark,
and a few hours later it might be too warm.......

Phil

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There looks as though there could be interesting weather over western areas
of NZ over the next day or so as an unstable NW flow covers NZ and the
eastern Tasman Sea. 
Unfortunately for me, Christchurch will be sheltered from the activity
owing to our geographical location but I wouldn't be surprised if there may
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I'll keep you posted if anything exciting happens.

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There looks as though there could be interesting weather over western areas
of NZ over the next day or so as an unstable NW flow covers NZ and the
eastern Tasman Sea. 
Unfortunately for me, Christchurch will be sheltered from the activity
owing to our geographical location but I wouldn't be surprised if there may
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usual NZ areas that are proned to tornadoes whatever.
I'll keep you posted if anything exciting happens.

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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Looking through the models there is the slight ( I mean slight ) chance of
some thunderstorms on the NW slopes and into the Darling Downs of Queensland
tomorrow.

Low level mositure will be the key, if winds are N/NE rather than NW things
may develop.

Sunday appears that middle layer cloud will spoil everything, although the
far south coast of NSW may see onshore winds inject a tad of moisture that
may warp into the low, and if the sun is out this may fire a storm near the
cut off centre, although the offshore winds may simply swamp what little
effort there is.


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At 18:11 24/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Don't mean to be rude but a what?
>Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

YES. Well I have a sort of "projection" every time a thunderstorm is
forcasted for ChCh but what on earth is a "mercators projection" ????

JohnGaul
NZTS - more than just projecting? 

By the way, dismall thunder activity over the country with the passing low.
No interesting thunder reports have come to hand. There have been reported
rumbles on the West Coast and around the Tararuas this morning but nothing
to spawn alarm. No funnels/tornado reports which I thort may have
eventuated by this system. Blocking highs out to the east to blame for the
weakoning of the low pressure system and to it's slow move tract over us.
Maybe the next low pressure system can do better. Large BH seem to be over
the south Pacific for much into next week, unfortunately ??!!!???  

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Andrew Miskelly" <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:47 PM
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>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know where I can get (digital) outlines of the states of
>> Australia in a mercators projection?
>>
>> Andrew.



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Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 23:46:27 +0800
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Mercators Projection was the projection used for just about every map in 
every school atlas when I was a kid 50 years ago.
To make every land mass look more or less the "right" shape when viewing 
a spherical surface drawn (or "projected") onto a flat sheet of paper, 
Mercator "stretched" the scale used to show all land in both latitude 
and longitude as you got further from the equator and got closer to the 
poles.
Thus lines of longitude are all parallel vertical lines on the map and 
they remain a constant distance apart regardless of latitude.  On the 
other hand, lines of latitude are close together near the equator and a 
long way apart near the poles.
Thus the island of Greenland appears as a much larger land mass than the 
entire continent of Australia.  The South Pole is a line as long as the 
equator and Antarctica appears as a long strip of land along the entire 
length of the bottom of the map.
It is useless for scaling distances on, but excellent for non-distortion 
of the shapes of bits of land the size of states or counties.
I still prefer a Mercator's Projection (MP) map for most purposes today, 
although other projections have become much more common.
The maps used by the US military when plotting the tracks of typhoons, 
hurricanes and cyclones appear to me to be MP.  If they are not MP, then 
they are something very similar.
And finally, sorry Andrew, but I don't know the location of any digital MP 
maps, but would very much like to.  I shall eagerly await seeing other 
answers to this request when all the Aussies start getting up in a few 
hours time.

Phil
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:47:09 +1200
Subject: aus-wx: Re: mercators projection

> At 18:11 24/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >Don't mean to be rude but a what?
> >Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> 
> YES. Well I have a sort of "projection" every time a thunderstorm is
> forcasted for ChCh but what on earth is a "mercators projection" ????
> 
> JohnGaul
> NZTS - more than just projecting? 
> 
> By the way, dismall thunder activity over the country with the passing
> low.
> No interesting thunder reports have come to hand. There have been
> reported
> rumbles on the West Coast and around the Tararuas this morning but
> nothing
> to spawn alarm. No funnels/tornado reports which I thort may have
> eventuated by this system. Blocking highs out to the east to blame for
> the
> weakoning of the low pressure system and to it's slow move tract over
> us.
> Maybe the next low pressure system can do better. Large BH seem to be
> over
> the south Pacific for much into next week, unfortunately ??!!!???  
> 
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Andrew Miskelly" <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:47 PM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: Request
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know where I can get (digital) outlines of the states of
> >> Australia in a mercators projection?
> >>
> >> Andrew.
> 
> 
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Hi Andrew and All.

You can go to http://www.aquarius.geomar.de/omc/ to draw digital coastline
maps of any desired place on the planet at any desired scale and in many
projections including MP while you wait, however when I last did that a
year or so ago I could not get it to draw the Australian State borders -
perhaps they have updated it.

Mercators Projection was developed so that sailors could move from point to
point on the earth by drawing a straight line on a map and sticking to that
course. Whatever direction any point on a MP map is from any other point is
a true representation of the bearing between the two points. You can thus
plot a course accurately and use a protractor to determine what bearing to
sail along and know that if you have taken other factors such as wind and
currents into account you will reach your destination.

Phil, JTWC and other .mil sources probably use MP as by plotting positions
on a map they can determine what direction a TC is moving and what
direction it is from any point of interest as accurately as is possible on
a map. Their cyclone/typhoon/hurricane track maps all look like MP to me.

Distances are another matter but can can be determined by spherical geometry.

Regards,
Carl.

>Mercators Projection was the projection used for just about every map in
>every school atlas when I was a kid 50 years ago.
>To make every land mass look more or less the "right" shape when viewing
>a spherical surface drawn (or "projected") onto a flat sheet of paper,
>Mercator "stretched" the scale used to show all land in both latitude
>and longitude as you got further from the equator and got closer to the
>poles.
>Thus lines of longitude are all parallel vertical lines on the map and
>they remain a constant distance apart regardless of latitude.  On the
>other hand, lines of latitude are close together near the equator and a
>long way apart near the poles.
>Thus the island of Greenland appears as a much larger land mass than the
>entire continent of Australia.  The South Pole is a line as long as the
>equator and Antarctica appears as a long strip of land along the entire
>length of the bottom of the map.
>It is useless for scaling distances on, but excellent for non-distortion
>of the shapes of bits of land the size of states or counties.
>I still prefer a Mercator's Projection (MP) map for most purposes today,
>although other projections have become much more common.
>The maps used by the US military when plotting the tracks of typhoons,
>hurricanes and cyclones appear to me to be MP.  If they are not MP, then
>they are something very similar.
>And finally, sorry Andrew, but I don't know the location of any digital MP
>maps, but would very much like to.  I shall eagerly await seeing other
>answers to this request when all the Aussies start getting up in a few
>hours time.
>
>Phil
><><
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>Doctor Disk Limited (Office) E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Gaul <nzts.nz at caverock.net.nz>
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 00:47:09 +1200
>Subject: aus-wx: Re: mercators projection
>
>> At 18:11 24/08/01 +1000, you wrote:
>> >Don't mean to be rude but a what?
>> >Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
>>
>> YES. Well I have a sort of "projection" every time a thunderstorm is
>> forcasted for ChCh but what on earth is a "mercators projection" ????
>>
>> JohnGaul
>> NZTS - more than just projecting?
>>
>> By the way, dismall thunder activity over the country with the passing
>> low.
>> No interesting thunder reports have come to hand. There have been
>> reported
>> rumbles on the West Coast and around the Tararuas this morning but
>> nothing
>> to spawn alarm. No funnels/tornado reports which I thort may have
>> eventuated by this system. Blocking highs out to the east to blame for
>> the
>> weakoning of the low pressure system and to it's slow move tract over
>> us.
>> Maybe the next low pressure system can do better. Large BH seem to be
>> over
>> the south Pacific for much into next week, unfortunately ??!!!???
>>
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Andrew Miskelly" <amiskelly at ozemail.com.au>
>> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:47 PM
>> >Subject: aus-wx: Offtopic: Request
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone know where I can get (digital) outlines of the states of
>> >> Australia in a mercators projection?
>> >>
>> >> Andrew.
>>
>>
>>
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Queensland.
Australia.

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From: "Nick Sykes" <nicksykes at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Rain Event and www.vicstorms.com
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 10:00:39 +1000
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Hey all

Looking at the latest  models it looks like a substantial rain event will
developing through the SE of Australia Sunday/Monday. The models have a low
forming somewhere from Bass Strait to the NSW Coast. The positioning of the
low and resulting wrap around bands will determine where the heaviest rain
will occur. A worry is the west Gippsland region which has had some flooding
over the last week because of the series of cold fronts. If they get heavy
rain some good falls may occur. Atm it looks like the region between Cape
Otway and Gippsland is favoured for heavy rain, including Melbourne :)

Anyway, something to keep an eye on.

The amount of overtime at work is slowly reducing and I am finding more time
to do my webpage, as a result I have recommenced my Notes on the Satellite
Picture section and the model discussion, as always how regular it is
updated depends on work, but hopefully will be once a day.

I have purchased the domain name www.vicstorms.com so there is no
advertising now :)

The SMS section will undergo a major update in early September, with more
functionality, including the ability to subscribe to SMS service such as
model updates, severe weather updates etc.

Bring it on!!!!

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Hi Nick, got the SMS a wile back, and your e-mail just lobbed.
Re Times.  Your e-mail time is showing as 10:00:39, which means it got
44 minutes to get to me, pretty quick by the system's recent
performance, one of mine took nearly a whole day !
However, there is something odd about the SMS message times, it is out
by an hour.  When it lobbed in it was 10:35 give or take.  But on the
display on the phone it says message time is 11:33:35.
I can only assume therefore that the SMS only took a couple of minutes
to get here, but that you must have the hour zone set wrong on the SMS
site, since it seems from your e-mail that your computer time is
correct on UTC+10.  You might look into this.  I have noticed it
before and was going to mention it to you, but kept forgetting to.  It
might be confusing some people out there.  It is a bit odd to get a
message an hour before it is sent, so people might be wondering when
it REALLY was sent, and hence the currency of the information in the
message, particularly if of a real time nature during a chase, as
opposed to a heads up information type of message as this one is. 
Since you no doubt sent the SMS and e-mail within minutes of each
other, you should be able to work out the exact timings from this, and
investigate and rectify the anomaly.  Hope this helps.

Regards,
PeterC
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW Warning 
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IDN29000
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Issued at 1049 on Saturday the 25th of August 2001
Graziers are advised of impending COLD, WET and WINDY weather in the
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For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
it will make things worse so be prepared :)

Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
arvo if it still looks good?

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<x-flowed>
Hi all!

I had a great trip to Australia from Norway, despite getting delayed 24 
hours! I got to stay in two hotels (one in London, and one in Hong Kong), 
but the 9 hr stay in HK was the most interesting. I got to see a little bit 
of the city and experience the hot and humid weather.
Anyway, it's great to be back in Adelaide... There were some nice showers 
today too. :-)

Adele

PS. Are there any ASWA meetings in SA coming up? Any in Melbourne?

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Hi John,
We had thunderstorms with hail in Auckland thursday pm but since then the
clouds have lacked punch.
It is still unstable today but tops are below 20,000ft. I have noticed some
strong cells in the Canterbury
high country last few days on satellite. Its a bugger for you they don't
drift east.
Cheers from Auckland
Steve Williams
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> There looks as though there could be interesting weather over western
areas
> of NZ over the next day or so as an unstable NW flow covers NZ and the
> eastern Tasman Sea.
> Unfortunately for me, Christchurch will be sheltered from the activity
> owing to our geographical location but I wouldn't be surprised if there
may
> be waterspouts or even a
> (BEWARE OF THE PHRASE)  - "mini-tornado"  -  somewhere in here in NZ in
the
> usual NZ areas that are proned to tornadoes whatever.
> I'll keep you posted if anything exciting happens.
>
> JohnGaul
> NZ Thunderstorm Soc.
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains, tomorrow
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:22:51 +1000
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Definitely the most gung-ho Bureau forecast I've seen in a while (4.30pm
issue, below), with snow to 800m for the Central and Northern NSW
Tablelands, and in the forecasts for Orange, Bathurst and Katoomba. The key
will be in the meaning of "snow later". Going on the latest AVN, which seems
to ride a nice line between the EC and GASP/LAPS/mesoLAPS, snow should start
falling in the Blue Mountains early Sunday evening. AVN has the 850 temp
dipping below zero around 9pm and staying there until late Monday morning,
with the wind staying WNW after the passage of the first trough, then
turning SW later Monday afternoon. AVN also forecasts up to 10mm precip
during this time, which is consistent with a wind blowing from N of W, so at
long last we may get a combination of cold + precip. Every other cold spell
here (Blackheath) so far this year has been devoid of the necessary
moisture, with southwesterlies being bled of any moisture as they track over
the high country around Oberon.

However, for the chasers, the timing will be critical as at present snow
doesn't look like falling until after dark. Just to add to the cautions in
Matthew's note, the word snow in the forecast for Katoomba should ensure
that every man and his child-who-has-never-seen-snow will be up here
tomorrow. Also a reminder that the police up here have become very
protective in recent years, and close off the Great Western Highway and
Bells Line of Road at the first hint that lowest-skilled drivers may not be
able to cope with the conditions, and when that happens the only ways back
to Sydney are via Goulburn or the Hunter.

I'll keep the list informed on conditions at Blackheath, and anyone chasing
who wants an update can phone or SMS me on 0428 877 276. Here's hoping this
will be a good one!

Laurier


CENTRAL TABLELANDS
Sunday
A sheep graziers warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
Rain or showers, falling as snow above 800 m later. Chance of thunderstorms.
Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds ahead of a squally westerly change in
the
afternoon.

Orange for Sunday
Rain tending to snow later. Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds turning
colder
squally westerly in the afternoon.
Min:2    Max:11
Bathurst :Rain/snow later. Windy.
Min:3    Max:12
Katoomba :Rain/ snow later. Windy.
Min:5    Max:11

NORTHERN TABLELANDS
Sunday
Sheep Graziers Warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
Rain or showers developing with snow above 800 m Sunday night. Chance of
thunderstorms. Cool to cold. Strengthening northwest winds ahead of a
strong westerly change in the afternoon.


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> Subject: aus-wx: snow
>
>
>
> For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
> take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
> comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
> it will make things worse so be prepared :)
>
> Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
> arvo if it still looks good?
>
> Matt Smith
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Be prepared for road closures also.
Paul G.
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>
> For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
> take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
> comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
> it will make things worse so be prepared :)
>
> Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
> arvo if it still looks good?
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Hi all.. 

In regards to road closures.. I will do my best to keep everyone 
informed around this area.  

The police have absolute no patience at the moment, especially after
Wed morning with 6 cars involved in accidents at Portland. Mind you a 
front wheel police car was stuck with other cars near Oberon. 
The police will close the roads way before it gets bad, as they 
stated, they dont want people being stranded on hwy with snow on
roads and then have to be picked up.   Last year, every motel room
in Bathurst was booked out in 2 hrs.. Emerg accomadation had to be
organised for 300 people stranded on Great Western HWY.  

So take in mind all this and be carefull.. If travelling upto Bx
area from Lithgow.  

Dave 
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Be prepared for road closures also.
Paul G.
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>
> For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
> take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
> comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
> it will make things worse so be prepared :)
>
> Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
> arvo if it still looks good?
>
> Matt Smith
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Hi again.. 

For any info, re roads, pls call 0408863956 or email me
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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:44:27 +0800
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Hey Adele, why didn't you give me a ring while you were in Hong Kong?
I very seldom meet any other English-speaking weather enthusiasts.

Phil
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Subject: aus-wx: In Adelaide now...

> Hi all!
> 
> I had a great trip to Australia from Norway, despite getting delayed 24
> hours! I got to stay in two hotels (one in London, and one in Hong
> Kong), 
> but the 9 hr stay in HK was the most interesting. I got to see a little
> bit 
> of the city and experience the hot and humid weather.
> Anyway, it's great to be back in Adelaide... There were some nice
> showers 
> today too. :-)
> 
> Adele
> 
> PS. Are there any ASWA meetings in SA coming up? Any in Melbourne?
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At 15:27 25/08/01 +1200, you wrote:
>Hi John,
>We had thunderstorms with hail in Auckland thursday pm but since then the
>clouds have lacked punch.
>It is still unstable today but tops are below 20,000ft. I have noticed some
>strong cells in the Canterbury
>high country last few days on satellite. Its a bugger for you they don't
>drift east.
>Cheers from Auckland

Hi Steve
There has been thunderous activity around NZ over the last few days but
mainly in western areas of both islands especially the North Island which
copped the 'best' of the weather.
I see that Jim Hickey mentioned thunderstorm activity around New Plymouth
on Thursday, ( I booked it in my weather diary) plus there was some weak
thundery weather delivering rain into the lakes , Tuesday, lightning was
flashing in the mountains observed from here, first time for yonks that I
have seen that.
Anyway today, I'm pretty sure I heard a clap of distant thunder about
4:45pm when I was moving the burm at the front of my house. There were a
lot of Castellatus forms in the Sc cloud to the west of here towards the
mountains. Light NE here. Checking the radio there were some sferics, heavy
for a start off then becoming weaker. Sky conditions however looked rather
boring considering the situation.
Anyway it is raining now, even though the wind funnels haven't turned away
from the Ne, it is still calm and overcast and obvious the this rain is
coming from the south side of the low that has crossed the South Island.
6mm to 11pm from 7:30pm
It must of been cool in Auckland this evening judging by the vapour on the
breaths of the players in tonight's All Blacks/Springbox test at Eden Park.
 

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Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 21:29:46 +1000
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: snow, Blue Mountains, tomorrow
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<x-flowed>
Hi Laurier,

Thanks for the cautioning. Unfortunately the model (AVN) keeps slowing the 
system down slightly and also bringing the main cold air slightly further 
N. Though there is no doubt during the night the cold air should get through.

Now this is interesting. Myself and Geoff are planning at this stage to 
head out to Orange up the 1400m mountain but timing as Laurier suggests is 
critical. If I feel the model slows it down further, I may head to the 
lower Hunter for possible storms early tomorrow afternoon. We shall see in 
the morning.

This system has put a little excitement into the weather.

Jimmy Deguara

At 05:22 PM 8/25/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Definitely the most gung-ho Bureau forecast I've seen in a while (4.30pm
>issue, below), with snow to 800m for the Central and Northern NSW
>Tablelands, and in the forecasts for Orange, Bathurst and Katoomba. The key
>will be in the meaning of "snow later". Going on the latest AVN, which seems
>to ride a nice line between the EC and GASP/LAPS/mesoLAPS, snow should start
>falling in the Blue Mountains early Sunday evening. AVN has the 850 temp
>dipping below zero around 9pm and staying there until late Monday morning,
>with the wind staying WNW after the passage of the first trough, then
>turning SW later Monday afternoon. AVN also forecasts up to 10mm precip
>during this time, which is consistent with a wind blowing from N of W, so at
>long last we may get a combination of cold + precip. Every other cold spell
>here (Blackheath) so far this year has been devoid of the necessary
>moisture, with southwesterlies being bled of any moisture as they track over
>the high country around Oberon.
>
>However, for the chasers, the timing will be critical as at present snow
>doesn't look like falling until after dark. Just to add to the cautions in
>Matthew's note, the word snow in the forecast for Katoomba should ensure
>that every man and his child-who-has-never-seen-snow will be up here
>tomorrow. Also a reminder that the police up here have become very
>protective in recent years, and close off the Great Western Highway and
>Bells Line of Road at the first hint that lowest-skilled drivers may not be
>able to cope with the conditions, and when that happens the only ways back
>to Sydney are via Goulburn or the Hunter.
>
>I'll keep the list informed on conditions at Blackheath, and anyone chasing
>who wants an update can phone or SMS me on 0428 877 276. Here's hoping this
>will be a good one!
>
>Laurier
>
>
>CENTRAL TABLELANDS
>Sunday
>A sheep graziers warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
>Rain or showers, falling as snow above 800 m later. Chance of thunderstorms.
>Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds ahead of a squally westerly change in
>the
>afternoon.
>
>Orange for Sunday
>Rain tending to snow later. Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds turning
>colder
>squally westerly in the afternoon.
>Min:2    Max:11
>Bathurst :Rain/snow later. Windy.
>Min:3    Max:12
>Katoomba :Rain/ snow later. Windy.
>Min:5    Max:11
>
>NORTHERN TABLELANDS
>Sunday
>Sheep Graziers Warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
>Rain or showers developing with snow above 800 m Sunday night. Chance of
>thunderstorms. Cool to cold. Strengthening northwest winds ahead of a
>strong westerly change in the afternoon.
>
>
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> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> >
> >
> >
> > For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
> > take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
> > comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
> > it will make things worse so be prepared :)
> >
> > Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
> > arvo if it still looks good?
> >
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<x-flowed>
Hi all,

I saw lightning earlier to the N of Schofields (I suspect it was the Scone 
lightning) and I am seeing lightning to the NW which I place in the 
direction of Mudgee. Time is 10:14pm writing this e-mail.

The rapid destabilisation is taking place. Quite interestingly, after dark 
8:30pm, I felt a breeze and it was from the E-NE....Moisture.... 
Altocumulus has built up overhead and you can see it is think. This is part 
of the same upper level trough or convergence zone that extends into Qld. 
IT was starved of moisture with just sufficient moisture and instability to 
produce the storms this afternoon and this evening in the NNSW and S Qld 
region. Well it seems that storms will take off during the night and 
tomorrow morning.

There is pretty good wind shear with this system.

I am out to check more storms.

-----------------------------------------
Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher

from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

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Lightning every 15 secs and claps of thunder every minute or so to our N at
11.10pm at Blackheath. Radar shows a compact little storm heading SE to the
N of us, while lightning tracker has sporadic lightning all the way from
central western Qld to about 800km east of Gabo Island. 9pm analysis shows a
spectacular shear line running N/S from Bourke to Melbourne with Wlies to
the west and NElies to the east, though the temperature discontinuity is
farther west. At 9pm Tibooburra was 19 degrees and Broken Hill 9. The
surface trough at 9pm was angled from SSW to NNE through Portland on the Vic
coast to cross the NSW/Qld border north of Bourke -- a very sharp trough,
with the most substantial pressure falls in the previous 3 hours over
central NSW. I wouldn't be surprised if a low develops in this area as the
trough tilts farther east, as hinted at by several of the progs and most
noticeably by WAFs. IR satpics comparison 08z to 11z shows expansion of the
area of cold cloud tops along the trough, while wv images have decidedly
thickened the cloudmass, both in intensity and breadth.

Adelaide trace at 9pm had a 700hPa temp of -11.5 and 500 of -30.5 with winds
W to WSWly up to 700 but tending NW around 500. Woomera was -10.9/700
and -30.9/500 while Cobar was -3.7 and -21.7. Coldest air on the 11z satpic
seems to be over the Eyre Peninsula, where surface temps are around 6
degrees where the wind is fresh.

With these upper temps, the interesting pressure distribution and moist air
moving in from the NE, it should be worth following tomorrow for NSW.

Laurier

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
> Sent: Saturday, 25 August, 2001 10:20 PM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: aus-wx: Lightning observed
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I saw lightning earlier to the N of Schofields (I suspect it was
> the Scone
> lightning) and I am seeing lightning to the NW which I place in the
> direction of Mudgee. Time is 10:14pm writing this e-mail.
>
> The rapid destabilisation is taking place. Quite interestingly,
> after dark
> 8:30pm, I felt a breeze and it was from the E-NE....Moisture....
> Altocumulus has built up overhead and you can see it is think.
> This is part
> of the same upper level trough or convergence zone that extends into Qld.
> IT was starved of moisture with just sufficient moisture and
> instability to
> produce the storms this afternoon and this evening in the NNSW and S Qld
> region. Well it seems that storms will take off during the night and
> tomorrow morning.
>
> There is pretty good wind shear with this system.
>
> I am out to check more storms.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
>
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
>
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>
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       Hey Jimmy,
            I thought it looked great this late afternoon, the altocumulus 
looked ready to take the next step.  Lighting over the mountains at around 
midnight was a nice show with 3-4 bolts observed between 1130 and 12am 
hitting the metro area, with some nice loud thunder here at castle hill, on 
radar at present (1230am) those storms off the coast look pretty awesome,,

>From: Jimmy Deguara <jdeguara at ihug.com.au>
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>Subject: aus-wx: Lightning observed
>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 22:20:24 +1000
>
>Hi all,
>
>I saw lightning earlier to the N of Schofields (I suspect it was the Scone
>lightning) and I am seeing lightning to the NW which I place in the
>direction of Mudgee. Time is 10:14pm writing this e-mail.
>
>The rapid destabilisation is taking place. Quite interestingly, after dark
>8:30pm, I felt a breeze and it was from the E-NE....Moisture....
>Altocumulus has built up overhead and you can see it is think. This is part
>of the same upper level trough or convergence zone that extends into Qld.
>IT was starved of moisture with just sufficient moisture and instability to
>produce the storms this afternoon and this evening in the NNSW and S Qld
>region. Well it seems that storms will take off during the night and
>tomorrow morning.
>
>There is pretty good wind shear with this system.
>
>I am out to check more storms.
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Jimmy Deguara
>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
>
>from
>Schofields, Sydney
>NSW Australia
>
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HI . 

If anyone happens to head near Bathurst way, pls call on 0408863956 and
will meet up..  

Dave 



Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi Laurier,
> 
> Thanks for the cautioning. Unfortunately the model (AVN) keeps slowing the
> system down slightly and also bringing the main cold air slightly further
> N. Though there is no doubt during the night the cold air should get through.
> 
> Now this is interesting. Myself and Geoff are planning at this stage to
> head out to Orange up the 1400m mountain but timing as Laurier suggests is
> critical. If I feel the model slows it down further, I may head to the
> lower Hunter for possible storms early tomorrow afternoon. We shall see in
> the morning.
> 
> This system has put a little excitement into the weather.
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 05:22 PM 8/25/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >Definitely the most gung-ho Bureau forecast I've seen in a while (4.30pm
> >issue, below), with snow to 800m for the Central and Northern NSW
> >Tablelands, and in the forecasts for Orange, Bathurst and Katoomba. The key
> >will be in the meaning of "snow later". Going on the latest AVN, which seems
> >to ride a nice line between the EC and GASP/LAPS/mesoLAPS, snow should start
> >falling in the Blue Mountains early Sunday evening. AVN has the 850 temp
> >dipping below zero around 9pm and staying there until late Monday morning,
> >with the wind staying WNW after the passage of the first trough, then
> >turning SW later Monday afternoon. AVN also forecasts up to 10mm precip
> >during this time, which is consistent with a wind blowing from N of W, so at
> >long last we may get a combination of cold + precip. Every other cold spell
> >here (Blackheath) so far this year has been devoid of the necessary
> >moisture, with southwesterlies being bled of any moisture as they track over
> >the high country around Oberon.
> >
> >However, for the chasers, the timing will be critical as at present snow
> >doesn't look like falling until after dark. Just to add to the cautions in
> >Matthew's note, the word snow in the forecast for Katoomba should ensure
> >that every man and his child-who-has-never-seen-snow will be up here
> >tomorrow. Also a reminder that the police up here have become very
> >protective in recent years, and close off the Great Western Highway and
> >Bells Line of Road at the first hint that lowest-skilled drivers may not be
> >able to cope with the conditions, and when that happens the only ways back
> >to Sydney are via Goulburn or the Hunter.
> >
> >I'll keep the list informed on conditions at Blackheath, and anyone chasing
> >who wants an update can phone or SMS me on 0428 877 276. Here's hoping this
> >will be a good one!
> >
> >Laurier
> >
> >
> >CENTRAL TABLELANDS
> >Sunday
> >A sheep graziers warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
> >Rain or showers, falling as snow above 800 m later. Chance of thunderstorms.
> >Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds ahead of a squally westerly change in
> >the
> >afternoon.
> >
> >Orange for Sunday
> >Rain tending to snow later. Cold. Fresh to strong northwest winds turning
> >colder
> >squally westerly in the afternoon.
> >Min:2    Max:11
> >Bathurst :Rain/snow later. Windy.
> >Min:3    Max:12
> >Katoomba :Rain/ snow later. Windy.
> >Min:5    Max:11
> >
> >NORTHERN TABLELANDS
> >Sunday
> >Sheep Graziers Warning for cold, wet and windy weather.
> >Rain or showers developing with snow above 800 m Sunday night. Chance of
> >thunderstorms. Cool to cold. Strengthening northwest winds ahead of a
> >strong westerly change in the afternoon.
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Matthew Smith
> > > Sent: Saturday, 25 August, 2001 1:38 PM
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: aus-wx: snow
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > For those snow chasing tomorrow on the blue mountians, dont forget to
> > > take into account it will be a sunday arvo/evening, and the traffic
> > > comming back to sydney will be shocking. Given the wet/snowy conditions
> > > it will make things worse so be prepared :)
> > >
> > > Tim would you be interested in going up the barrington tops tomorrow
> > > arvo if it still looks good?
> > >
> > > Matt Smith
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The ocean area just east of NSW seems to be a 
breeding ground for storms. I guess the sea temperatures</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>are relatively warm and that creates the 
instability. The action tends to weaken as it crosses the Tasman 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>toward NZ (cooler water). Lord Howe island averages 
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Bit dissapointing last night, not many heavy showers in Adelaide, all were 
very brief with only some small hail.  A large area of instability appears 
to be approaching from the S of Adelaide, rain and showers with it.  
Although with last night's performance, I won't hold my breath.  I don't 
think the coldest air is here just yet.  I wonder if the large area of cloud 
moving up from the south is associated with the coldest of the air or just a 
wrap around effet from the low?  Mt Gambier has had nearly 40mm so far since 
9am yesterday!  Mt Lofty is no longer visible from my place now, was 1/2 an 
hour ago, wonder what's going on up there right now?




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Hi Steven,

One of the storms this morning look like a supercell structure one.

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:25 AM 8/26/01 +1200, you wrote:
>The ocean area just east of NSW seems to be a breeding ground for storms. 
>I guess the sea temperatures
>are relatively warm and that creates the instability. The action tends to 
>weaken as it crosses the Tasman sea
>toward NZ (cooler water). Lord Howe island averages 40 thunder days plus a 
>year i believe.
>Regards
>Steven Williams
>Auckland weather observer

-----------------------------------------
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from
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Hi all,

Just a reminder of my webcam on the NSW North Coast - there could be some 
action today so keep a watch !

I've added an archive of the past 10 images too:

http://australiasevereweather.com/links/webcam.htm

cheers, Michael



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hi all,
good chance of a storm or two NE NSW/SE QLD. and we have excellent coverage
between myself and michael bath. check it out during the day at this address:
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>Bit dissapointing last night, not many heavy showers in Adelaide, all were
>very brief with only some small hail.  A large area of instability appears
>to be approaching from the S of Adelaide, rain and showers with it.
>Although with last night's performance, I won't hold my breath.  I don't
>think the coldest air is here just yet.  I wonder if the large area of cloud
>moving up from the south is associated with the coldest of the air or just a
>wrap around effet from the low?  Mt Gambier has had nearly 40mm so far since
>9am yesterday!  Mt Lofty is no longer visible from my place now, was 1/2 an
>hour ago, wonder what's going on up there right now?

To cut a long story short SG - nothing much.  I made a quick trip up early
this morning.  Obviously it was cold, wet, windy etc, but not cold enough
for any ice action I'm 'fraid.  The low topped nature of the clouds was
immediately obvious.  Last two times I've had snow in the lofties it's been
inside a nicely glaciated Cb.

I note the forecast still mentions snow for the south Flinders Ranges.
Pity we don't seem to have anybody living in Burra, or Peterborough, or
Melrose, on this list....

I imagine there'll be some pretty impressive snowfalls in the east before
all this is over though...

Phil

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Hi Phil,

Sorry for not catching up with you! I was actually thinking about it! But I 
didn't have your details with me, and the nine hours went very quickly. I 
promise that next time I'll ring you! :-)

Adele

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>Hey Adele, why didn't you give me a ring while you were in Hong Kong?
>I very seldom meet any other English-speaking weather enthusiasts.
>
>Phil
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>Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 06:20:39
>Subject: aus-wx: In Adelaide now...
>
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I had a great trip to Australia from Norway, despite getting delayed 24
> > hours! I got to stay in two hotels (one in London, and one in Hong
> > Kong),
> > but the 9 hr stay in HK was the most interesting. I got to see a little
> > bit
> > of the city and experience the hot and humid weather.
> > Anyway, it's great to be back in Adelaide... There were some nice
> > showers
> > today too. :-)
> >
> > Adele
> >
> > PS. Are there any ASWA meetings in SA coming up? Any in Melbourne?
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Hi all.. 

Heavy rain in Bathurst now, also plenty of lightning and thunder. 

Whats happening in other areas around Bathurst ?? 

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Some quite impressive storms over the ocean late this morning. Some of these
are showing severe features such as genuine overshoots and quite pronounced
back shearing.

I say ' genuine ' as storms over the ocean without reference to landmarks or
clutter from other cloud often look severe when they are actually weak, but
these are the real article.

There is a tendency for these storms to build closer to the coast, but they
will be swamped by the front before 150km near us.

At 1pm in the Illawarra it is very hazy. The wind is humid NE and stayed
onshore last night, the sun is still out, therefore the chances of a pre
frontal storm here are say 30%. Read that as 70% chance not.

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<DIV>it has stared to rain in and around Cessnock in the last half hour.&nbsp; 
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Hi Guys,

Don't know if anyone has come across this yet, I found the link in an
aviation newsgroup.

http://www.birdcagesoft.com/util_software.html

Handy little program that gets AWS data from the BoM for Australia, nice
change from looking at what is happening in the States.

Regards,

Chris


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Good rain has been falling here in Katoomba Blue Mountains NSW for an
hour or two. It's now 2 pm. The temperature has dropped from around 10
degrees to 7.5 degrees. Hopefully it gets alot colder soon. Had some
nice thunder & lightning last night but no rain.
Was driving home very late Wednesday night driving through Katoomba &
snow was falling creating drifts up Katoomba's main Street. It was a
nice sight!

Damian

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We received a northerly change from the last night with heavy soft hail (1cm
in size) at the front of the change.  This was followed by heavy sheet
lightning then nothing.  Heavy rain in the morning at sunrise but cleared as
the air warmed.

Today the bar dropped 5 points to 1005 with more wind from the N.  A storm
passed to the West (between Gunnedah and Tamworth) with heavy rumbles.

Now (2:03PM, 1003 bar, 24.5c) we have had a change to the West with a
blanket of heavy rain that rose to about 800m above the ground.  The rain is
continuing

The BOM radar shows 2 strips of rain coming from the QLD border. One in a
line from Goondiwindi down to Narrabri, Gunnedah etc the other is sticking
above the ranges around Armidale.

Nice to see the rising clouds, storms and rain setting in early this year.

simon at fearby.com
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From: "Bussie" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:29:21 +1000
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I went and got it. Brilliant!
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Don't know if anyone has come across this yet, I found the link in an
> aviation newsgroup.
>
> http://www.birdcagesoft.com/util_software.html
>
> Handy little program that gets AWS data from the BoM for Australia, nice
> change from looking at what is happening in the States.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
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HI.. 

Damien the temp here is 7.4 and rain been going for about 2 hrs. Was
just raining quite heavy 10 min ago. Looks like its hear to stay.. 

Bring on the snow..  

DAve 

Tony & Damian wrote:
> 
> Good rain has been falling here in Katoomba Blue Mountains NSW for an
> hour or two. It's now 2 pm. The temperature has dropped from around 10
> degrees to 7.5 degrees. Hopefully it gets alot colder soon. Had some
> nice thunder & lightning last night but no rain.
> Was driving home very late Wednesday night driving through Katoomba &
> snow was falling creating drifts up Katoomba's main Street. It was a
> nice sight!
> 
> Damian
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Hi Damian,

This is my very first post in the list.

I saw some flashes to the west last night when I was driving home from Dee
Why beach back to Beacon Hill. I guess it was those storms you mention.
Thanks for the info was wondering where it was coming from.

Looks like some activity building up between Camden and Bowral at the
moment.

My girlfriend and I went snow chasing in the mountains last weekend but alas
it had melted.

Pete


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> Good rain has been falling here in Katoomba Blue Mountains NSW for an
> hour or two. It's now 2 pm. The temperature has dropped from around 10
> degrees to 7.5 degrees. Hopefully it gets alot colder soon. Had some
> nice thunder & lightning last night but no rain.
> Was driving home very late Wednesday night driving through Katoomba &
> snow was falling creating drifts up Katoomba's main Street. It was a
> nice sight!
>
> Damian
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Hi all. 

Temp has dropped 2 deg in last 30 min.. down to 5.5 now. 

Dave 
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The models are showing what looks like a repeat performance late next week
or the weekend..a northerly stream ahead of a complex surface/upper low.In
fact Unisys was going for a cut off low north of Brisbane, but I think
that's pretty unlikely for this time of the year.If it happens the north
coast is in for a major rain event.
And I presume this strange stuff that's falling at Seven Hills at the moment
is rainwater, after the 2nd driest August here in 52 years so far..
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> We received a northerly change from the last night with heavy soft hail
(1cm
> in size) at the front of the change.  This was followed by heavy sheet
> lightning then nothing.  Heavy rain in the morning at sunrise but cleared
as
> the air warmed.
>
> Today the bar dropped 5 points to 1005 with more wind from the N.  A storm
> passed to the West (between Gunnedah and Tamworth) with heavy rumbles.
>
> Now (2:03PM, 1003 bar, 24.5c) we have had a change to the West with a
> blanket of heavy rain that rose to about 800m above the ground.  The rain
is
> continuing
>
> The BOM radar shows 2 strips of rain coming from the QLD border. One in a
> line from Goondiwindi down to Narrabri, Gunnedah etc the other is sticking
> above the ranges around Armidale.
>
> Nice to see the rising clouds, storms and rain setting in early this year.
>
> simon at fearby.com
> ICQ: 6646135
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From: "Peter Konnecke" <konno at optusnet.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER AT BEACON HILL 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Theres some thunder occuring right now in the area to the 
north west of Beacon Hill (Northern Beaches Area of Sydney) ... a bit grumbly 
and rumbly ... no lighning spotted at this stage ... off to check the 
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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Interesting circulation over Melbourne
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Afternoon all,

Hope you northern cousins are enjoying your weather atm - looks
stunning - and Ben, Steve & Michael - that's a great webcam page you've
created!!!!!

and now to Victoria.....

Radar (in particular the 128km loop) is showing a very interesting
circulation over central Victoria - ie: it looks like a low is planted
just to the NW of Port Phillip Bay & associated low level instability
has increased over the past few hours.  They now have isolated Cb's
forecast with tops to 28,000 E of 148E.......

Keep an eye on the cloudband associated with the storms off the coast of
NSW too, things could get interesting later on with all of the tilting
going on & the blocking effect of the high in the Tasman Sea - this low
is moving as slowly as a dry week.........
http://www.cita.utoronto.ca/~rjh/melbourne/satellite_big.html

Pressure's down to 1002 & the wrap around is affecting W victoria -
Hamilton has had 16.2mm since 9am this morning.

Stay tuned

Jane

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ASWA - Victoria
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Another report ... rain now falling ... very light but steady 
... low cloud base extending from NE to SW direction ... lightning spotted and 
much more frequent than 10 mins ago ... can see lighter skies to the west .... 
looks like this one will&nbsp;be fairly local.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Dean McWhinney" <mcwhinneyd at optushome.com.au>
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My mate just reproted SMALL hail at NTH turramurra around 30 mins ago !! 

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Due large file sizes, charts have been removed from TWC thread and
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The last 15 minutes (15:00 to 15:15) here have gone from dull calm 19C
 at  1008 to dark gusty 20-25knot SW 15.9C  at  1005 and falling with light
rain and some muffled thunder, I think SW but still a fair way away,
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In addition to this wind picking up 20-25 knots rain thunder BRING IT ON!!!!
:)
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> My mate just reproted SMALL hail at NTH turramurra around 30 mins ago !!
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Very heavy rain now and just observed a nice bolt to the east 
touching down towards the Narraweena area.</FONT></DIV>
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Flashes Now 15:25, just to the west - Roselands area - heavy rumbles,
one or two bangs.  Rain eased - didn't last long.
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Intermittent flashes overhead now - small sheet - no runners / strikes
- more thunder, light rain steady - est 2/3mm / h stuff only - just
had a 4 octave / 30 seconds symphonic crack and rumble !!
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From: David Findlay <david_j_findlay at yahoo.com.au>
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Anyone seen our current radar? It is a perfectly striaght line of storms.

David
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW snow -- it's started
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Orange airport reporting snow with temp 1.9 at 3pm, 1.6 at 4pm and precip
continuing. Also at 4pm, Bathurst 3.9 degrees and 14mm since the rain
started a few hours ago, Coonabarabran 4.2 with the wind gusting to 57km/h
and 9.6mm in the gauge since 9am, Goulburn AP 4.8 degrees, Mt Boyce 3.8 and
steady light rain.

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Police reported light snow falling near Orange, Great Western Hwy to
Lithgow being checked for snow and road condition now. 

Dave



Bathurst
Date / Time = 26 16:00
Temperature = 3.9 C
Dew Point = 3.2 C
Relative Humidity = 95 %
Wind Direction = W
Wind Speed = 4 km/h
Nautical Wind Speed = 2 knots
Wind Gust = 15 km/h
Nautical Wind Gust = 8 knots
Barometric Pressure = 1005.4 hPa
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Kind of mirrors what I was saying in my posts ... there was a straight line
of heavy cloud stretching from the NE to the SW here at Beacon Hill. Usually
we see the line of storms more oriented NW to SE.

Pete


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> Anyone seen our current radar? It is a perfectly striaght line of storms.
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Gday Pete and all:

>Very heavy rain now and just observed a nice bolt to the east touching down 
>towards the Narraweena area.
>
>Pete

Good to see I'm not the only one in Beacon Hill watching these storms!. From 
my vantage this was a quite spectacular storm with a beautiful green-tinged 
precip curtain under a dark blue base: certainly more what I expect of late 
spring. CG action was intense at times, both with respect to the nature of 
individual bolts and their freqeuncy. The line also developed a lovely shelf 
cloud with some spectacular gustfront shear on show ~ 3:10pm.

cheers,   David

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Nothing all that exciting, up to 1 cm, mostly smaller.  Line of storms from
NW around 3pm. The line looked rather weak with lighter cloud clearly
visible behind a weak gust front. However after mixing with NE winds they
really took off over the coast with brief heavy rain and small hail. A fair
scattering of CG's as well, with a blackout in the Shellharbour area.

Took some digital photos, may have a chase report up tonight or tomorrow.

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Still on these storms, my wife reported 1cm hail, heavy rain and plenty of 
lightning from near Mona Vale.

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Bit of a run down on the action in the Hunter.
Headed out once i saw storms forming near singleton, but once i got to
Maitland it all looked rather embedded and not doing much, a big RFB to
my south let go over Cessnock so I shot down there and tried to catch
the storm, driving to Morissett but the storm was moving SSE too fast,
This might have been what the N suburbs of sydney got. Headed back to
see another storm off the coast of Newcastle that had just moved through
near Nelson Bay, overcast with light rain, no features and only a few
flashes visible i headed home where it is now raining steadily, windy,
cold at around 12C. (a heatwave compared to Lindsays temp at
blackheath!)

The line of storms yesterday that started NW of Moree and lasted into
the evening went through Tamworth and made it to Scone where they were
still developing around 9pmish, so I headed out desperate for a
lightning show, and another cell formed near Singleton and moved ESE out
to sea. It put out some great lightning but soon died off.. hopefully
got a few good shots. The line of storms yesterday out to sea went
beserk around 11pm, 100km off the coast, with lightning every 2 seconds.

Anyway thats about it, enjoy the snow guys!

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Hi All,

We had a very brief storm on the North Coast just before 5pm, but I got 
some lightning captures as it was approaching:

http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082601.jpg
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082602.jpg
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082603.jpg

and then afterwards towards the E-NE

http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082604.jpg
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082605.jpg

We got just 3mm but it fell in just 4-5 minutes. No hail.

regards, Michael


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Man it is so unfair - Ages I have been hanging out for a good storm in Brisbane, and this morning I fly to Cairns for Hols, and I was watching ABC TV when the transmission failed due to "SEVERE STORMS IN BRISBANE"  Had a coronary then checked the BOM site....looks *amazing* on the radar. So unfair that I'm here - I'd give anything to be there right now.  I think it was waiting until I left!!  Hope you are enjoying it in Bris....

Seona

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> Kind of mirrors what I was saying in my posts ... there was a straight line
> of heavy cloud stretching from the NE to the SW here at Beacon Hill. Usually
> we see the line of storms more oriented NW to SE.
> 
> Pete
> 
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I've just noticed that both LAPS and meso-LAPS 00z run move the cold pool to
just west of the Blue Mountains by 10pm tonight, before regressing it back
to around Wagga by 10am tomorrow, then have it over the southern Northern
Tablelands tomorrow evening, maintaining a central thickness around 5350 the
whole time. The coldest part of the state at 5pm, on potential temperature
(i.e. reduced to 1000hPa) was an oval shaped area between about Cowra and
Albury. The overall stagnation of the trough and low are a significant
feature of this system -- also the surface wind circulation at 5pm was
centred on Melbourne even though there's a clear low pressure system in east
Gippsland -- I think this is what you commented upon, Jane, in an earlier
posting.

Sleet falling at Blackheath at 6pm with temp about 2 degrees.

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Further to what I just wrote, have a look at these charts:
5pm wind streamlines centred on Melbourne:
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/2001082607z_streamlines.gif
5pm surface analysis:
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/2001082607z_msl_precip.gif
6pm wind streamlines -- moved into Gippsland:
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/2001082608z_streamlines.gif
6pm surface analysis:
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/2001082608z_msl_precip.gif
6pm potential temperature:
http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/2001082608z_potential_temp.gif

Laurier

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>
>
> I've just noticed that both LAPS and meso-LAPS 00z run move the
> cold pool to
> just west of the Blue Mountains by 10pm tonight, before regressing it back
> to around Wagga by 10am tomorrow, then have it over the southern Northern
> Tablelands tomorrow evening, maintaining a central thickness
> around 5350 the
> whole time. The coldest part of the state at 5pm, on potential temperature
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> Albury. The overall stagnation of the trough and low are a significant
> feature of this system -- also the surface wind circulation at 5pm was
> centred on Melbourne even though there's a clear low pressure
> system in east
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> Sleet falling at Blackheath at 6pm with temp about 2 degrees.
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Hi All,

A friend who I encouraged to make the trip up to the Northern Tablelands 
today (he can get off work tomorrow) is heading south from Tenterfield ( at  
6.45pm) and reports the truckies are having problems getting through the 
Ben Lomond Range near Guyra because of the heavy snow falling there.

cheers, Michael


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<DIV>Around 6:10 I phoned the Ampol Roadhouse, the lady on the phone said it was 
snowing. She could see it on the cars outside. It was also settling on the 
ground. I can see the highway being closed tonight. Will let you all know what 
happens up there.</DIV>
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<DIV>Unfortunately, I couldn't make it to Guyra. Does anyone recon there'll be 
sleet on QLD border ranges? I am about 20 minute drive from Springbrook 
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Hey all,

Storm in Warwick this arvo about 230, with some very very nice CG's, and
very nice rumbles of thunder.
10mm overnight and 2 mm from the storm this arvo

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Yes Matthew, not much happening in Cessnock, just rain, bit of thunder, but
very little else.  It has rained steadily for the afternoon with quite a
drop in temp as well.  It always looks great towards Polkolbin, but very
little happens around the actual town....

Carolyn
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>
> Bit of a run down on the action in the Hunter.
> Headed out once i saw storms forming near singleton, but once i got to
> Maitland it all looked rather embedded and not doing much, a big RFB to
> my south let go over Cessnock so I shot down there and tried to catch
> the storm, driving to Morissett but the storm was moving SSE too fast,
> This might have been what the N suburbs of sydney got. Headed back to
> see another storm off the coast of Newcastle that had just moved through
> near Nelson Bay, overcast with light rain, no features and only a few
> flashes visible i headed home where it is now raining steadily, windy,
> cold at around 12C. (a heatwave compared to Lindsays temp at
> blackheath!)
>
> The line of storms yesterday that started NW of Moree and lasted into
> the evening went through Tamworth and made it to Scone where they were
> still developing around 9pmish, so I headed out desperate for a
> lightning show, and another cell formed near Singleton and moved ESE out
> to sea. It put out some great lightning but soon died off.. hopefully
> got a few good shots. The line of storms yesterday out to sea went
> beserk around 11pm, 100km off the coast, with lightning every 2 seconds.
>
> Anyway thats about it, enjoy the snow guys!
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On Sunday 26 August 2001 17:51, Seona Phillips hit his keyboard with his head 
and the result was this:
> Man it is so unfair - Ages I have been hanging out for a good storm in
> Brisbane, and this morning I fly to Cairns for Hols, and I was watching ABC
> TV when the transmission failed due to "SEVERE STORMS IN BRISBANE"  Had a
> coronary then checked the BOM site....looks *amazing* on the radar. So
> unfair that I'm here - I'd give anything to be there right now.  I think it
> was waiting until I left!!  Hope you are enjoying it in Bris....

From Redcliffe, around 5:30pm I think I saw a wall cloud, but it disappeared 
fairly quickly. There was a lot of scud cloud and heavy rain. Few nice 
lowerings, but nothing tornadic unfortunately.

David
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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Chase report and pictures  -26th August
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:07:11 +1000
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I have put up a chase report and some pictures of the storm this afternoon
in the Illawarra.

http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase23.htm

The first photo is a 2 shot stitch together job.

Michael Thompson
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Wow fantastic stuff Michael, better than anything I saw today !!!
Gladw you got a good one, breaking of the storm drought down your way maybe !
:)

Matt Smith

Michael Thompson wrote:

> I have put up a chase report and some pictures of the storm this afternoon
> in the Illawarra.
>
> http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase23.htm
>
> The first photo is a 2 shot stitch together job.
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://ozthunder.com
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From: "Ben Quinn" <benquinn at optushome.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wierd Line of storms
Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:35:09 +1000
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Hi all

I was in the Wide Bay Burnett area all weekend and caught up with a very
nice storm around the Kilkivan area (about  40k's westish of Gympie) late
today - the shelf cloud looked quite good as it approached!

http://www.bsch.au.com/temp/260801_01.jpg
(thanks to Tony Middleton for joining two photos together for me)

On the way home we (my dad and I) got caught in a nasty little storm driving
up the ranges - we were driving east with the storm, and had torrential rain
and short sharp burts of pea size hail for over 30 minutes! Visibility was
reduced to 15m in winds of up to 45 knots and the lightning was great - Cg's
3-5k's away every 10-15 seconds, more frequent at times.  We could have
stopped.... but there weren't many cars on the road and it was quite fun :-)

The BoM recorded a wind gust of 47 knots (87km/h) at Oakey as the line of
storms passed through - looking at Brisbane radar it looked quite impressive
as it passed through Ipswich - any Ipswich people on the list?



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Findlay" <david_j_findlay at yahoo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wierd Line of storms


> On Sunday 26 August 2001 17:51, Seona Phillips hit his keyboard with his
head
> and the result was this:
> > Man it is so unfair - Ages I have been hanging out for a good storm in
> > Brisbane, and this morning I fly to Cairns for Hols, and I was watching
ABC
> > TV when the transmission failed due to "SEVERE STORMS IN BRISBANE"  Had
a
> > coronary then checked the BOM site....looks *amazing* on the radar. So
> > unfair that I'm here - I'd give anything to be there right now.  I think
it
> > was waiting until I left!!  Hope you are enjoying it in Bris....
>
> From Redcliffe, around 5:30pm I think I saw a wall cloud, but it
disappeared
> fairly quickly. There was a lot of scud cloud and heavy rain. Few nice
> lowerings, but nothing tornadic unfortunately.
>
> David
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forecasts of snow down to 800m I took the family on a run up through Ebor today
&#8211; Ground around there is 1400 &#8211; 1500m. Drove on through to Guyra at about
1.00pm searching for snow and it was really cold but no sign of snow. Drove
back to Round Mountain <span style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</span>just near Ebor,
at 1608m is the highest peek on the northern tablelands. We were there at
3.00pm on the return journey as I was hoping to catch some snow flurries on the
way home. Some forecasts were predicting 5-10cm early. But it was all rain. <o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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have to tell my 7 and 8 year old sons who were very excited that we missed it
by only a few hours.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>macdonald<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 26 August 2001 7:34
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> aussie-weather at world.std.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> aus-wx: snowing at Guyra</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Around 6:10 I
phoned the Ampol Roadhouse, the lady on the phone said it was snowing. She
could see it on the cars outside. It was also settling on the ground. I can see
the highway being closed tonight. Will let you all know what happens up there.</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Unfortunately,
I couldn't make it to Guyra. Does anyone recon there'll be sleet on QLD border
ranges? I am about 20 minute drive from Springbrook 1007m.</span></font><font
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Wierd Line of storms
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:30:51 +1000
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Hi Ben,

Yes I chased...  If you can call driving 5km or so a chase.  But I took some
video of the squall line as it approached and saw a few nice CG's, but it
was all rather a non event at Mt. Crosby - a bit of wind and 3.5mm of rain.
I counted far more CG's along my part of the line than lightning tracker
indicated - once again increasing my suspicions that it under-estimates.

Got 4.5mm rain in early hours Sunday which was nice, but we had a real NNE
katabatic wind flow off the ranges all Sat evening, started after the
seabreeze died away about 6:00pm reaching peak intensity about 9:30pm - 30kn
gusts I estimate, lots of small branches down this morning, pool was a real
mess.  It quit suddenly as these things do around 11:00pm.  Around 10:00pm I
checked Brisbane local obs to see how local this event was and Amberley was
Dead calm (just 13km away) and Archerfield about 4km/hr.  Amazing!

John
>snip

Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wierd Line of storms


Hi all

I was in the Wide Bay Burnett area all weekend and caught up with a very
nice storm around the Kilkivan area (about  40k's westish of Gympie) late
today - the shelf cloud looked quite good as it approached!

http://www.bsch.au.com/temp/260801_01.jpg
(thanks to Tony Middleton for joining two photos together for me)

On the way home we (my dad and I) got caught in a nasty little storm driving
up the ranges - we were driving east with the storm, and had torrential rain
and short sharp burts of pea size hail for over 30 minutes! Visibility was
reduced to 15m in winds of up to 45 knots and the lightning was great - Cg's
3-5k's away every 10-15 seconds, more frequent at times.  We could have
stopped.... but there weren't many cars on the road and it was quite fun :-)

The BoM recorded a wind gust of 47 knots (87km/h) at Oakey as the line of
storms passed through - looking at Brisbane radar it looked quite impressive
as it passed through Ipswich - any Ipswich people on the list?

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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at winnet.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Stat software
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:53:04 +1000
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This is a great piece of software. Thanx

Simon Angell
Canberra ACT
Currently 4*c and rain/showers
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 2:29 PM
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> I went and got it. Brilliant!
> Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Daley" <jindivik at bigpond.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 1:45 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Weather Stat software
>
>
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Don't know if anyone has come across this yet, I found the link in an
> > aviation newsgroup.
> >
> > http://www.birdcagesoft.com/util_software.html
> >
> > Handy little program that gets AWS data from the BoM for Australia, nice
> > change from looking at what is happening in the States.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Subject: aus-wx: FLOOD PHOTOS
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<x-flowed>
hi all,
I've just uploaded some (more to come) photos of the flooding here in SW 
Gippsland last week.you can navigate through the site and the 'whats new' 
section at;
  http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils
or go directly to the link at;
  http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SWGfloods01.htm



regards tm
Anvil Industries
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils


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On Sunday 26 August 2001 22:35, Ben Quinn hit his keyboard with his head and 
the result was this:
> The BoM recorded a wind gust of 47 knots (87km/h) at Oakey as the line of
> storms passed through - looking at Brisbane radar it looked quite
> impressive as it passed through Ipswich - any Ipswich people on the list?

I may have been imagining things but as the storm pass Ipswitch I was seeing 
inflow winds here.

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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Reports of snow falling at Robertson and Moss Vale this morning on the radio. I've got to say it felt like it when I was running to work, very cold even with beanie, rain gear, tights, and the usual running gear on. In fact though I'd say it is colder now than at 5:30 when I left. So stuck at work, no car, no camera, no sight of the mountains and it's all happening a short 30min drive away!! My only remaining chance to to convince the boss to lend me the company car and claim back a couple of the many hours owing to me at present. If not, hope any snow lasts to this afternoon. I hope everyone chasing snow up and down the mountains today gets plenty of the white stuff, but get back home safely as well. One last hurrah for winter.</FONT></P>

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:19:48 +1000
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Hi all,

Been snowing for a couple of hours in Taralga now. Snow reported all
around here and also in Goulnurn with all school bus services in the
area cancelled.

The hume highway is closed (both dierctions) at Towrang, a couple of Ks
north of Goulburn.

We have about a centimetre cover which at times gets a little deeper if
the temp falls to 0. It's hovering between 0 and 0.7 at the moment.

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Hi David,

No you were not imaging things, the wind was a NE inflow into the squall
line at Mt. Crosby, switching to Westerly with the line.  The NE was
basically a seabreeze, which started at Mt. Crosby around 2:30pm (NW befire
that).

John.
>snip

On Sunday 26 August 2001 22:35, Ben Quinn hit his keyboard with his head and
the result was this:
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> storms passed through - looking at Brisbane radar it looked quite
> impressive as it passed through Ipswich - any Ipswich people on the list?

I may have been imagining things but as the storm pass Ipswitch I was seeing
inflow winds here.

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HI all..

All roads around Oberon are closed, snowing in Oberon now.. 4-5 inches of
snow and getting thicker..  Power in Black springs, Burraga, Mt David areas
have just gone off.

Roads closed at Goulburn .

Dave
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10.55am 27/8.

Last report we got is -bathurst-lithgow open with caution,
Lithgow-Sydney open, oberon closed.

Had call from customer in Jerong near Oberon, advising snowing heavily
still.

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Hi David,

Did you manage to get any photos of yesterdays storm?  We didn't, to busy
racing the storm trying to finish the gardening, and besides our view from
home was interupted by trees.  It was entertaining while it lasted and it
was good sitting on our back deck watching the lightning and not getting
wet.  We also got small hail, but not very much of it, heavy rain but it was
so windy that the rainguage only collected 12.5 mm to 9 am today.

Judy Mayo


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> Gday Pete and all:
>
> >Very heavy rain now and just observed a nice bolt to the east touching
down
> >towards the Narraweena area.
> >
> >Pete
>
> Good to see I'm not the only one in Beacon Hill watching these storms!.
From
> my vantage this was a quite spectacular storm with a beautiful
green-tinged
> precip curtain under a dark blue base: certainly more what I expect of
late
> spring. CG action was intense at times, both with respect to the nature of
> individual bolts and their freqeuncy. The line also developed a lovely
shelf
> cloud with some spectacular gustfront shear on show ~ 3:10pm.
>
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 Snow falling still at Oberon, called staff at 12pm. Graders have been used in area of     
 Porters Retreat, Black Springs as very thick snow brought power lines down. Snow falling  
 also near Portland, Lithgow area.                                                         
                                                                                           
                                                                                           
 Looks like power outages in Oberon area will be for sometime.                             
                                                                                           
                                                                                           
 All roads still closed around Oberon.                                                     
                                                                                           



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HI all..

Just spoke with Jimmy who is on road to Blue Mountains and Oberon way.. Can
anyone shed some light on roads re Lithgow area and access.


Sms Jimmy on 0408020468.

Dave
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Some spectacular pics there tony, it must have been exciting to experience that kind of severe weather!  I also have some pics of some of victoria's diverse scenery and a short (!) description of the trip I did during july:

http://www.crosswinds.net/~nativeflowers/julydiscovery/

now that the site is finally working i hope you enjoy it!
Mel :)

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>I've just uploaded some (more to come) photos of the flooding here in SW 
>Gippsland last week.you can navigate through the site and the 'whats new' 
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Blackheath Blue Mountains 12.50pm.

We've had a succession of heavy showers of sago snow, snow flakes and sleet
over the past 1.5 hours and continuing. About 2 to 3mm precip, half still
sitting frozen in the raingauge funnel. Temp 2.0 in the screen. The ground
is still very wet, so there's unlikely to be an accumulation unless it gets
really serious. The temperature is likely to rise a little as "warmer" air
returning around the southern side of the low arrives. The circulation is
very obvious on the Sydney 512km radar, with a line of showers roughly
Moruya -- Goulburn -- Bathurst moving NNW and some heavy showers in the
lower Hunter moving ESE.

Montague Is reported 42mm 9am to midday, bringing its total to 101mm in the
past 9 hours. Snow at Bowral had turned to rain at the noon obs.

Laurier


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>  Snow falling still at Oberon, called staff at 12pm. Graders have
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>  Looks like power outages in Oberon area will be for sometime.
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1340 EST:
Just a quick note to say that you can now see the cloud bands starting to
circulate on the sydney broadscale radar loop, around that 994 low just off
the coast.

Keep those snow reports coming too :)

Mal Ninnes
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If anyone can inform Jimmy and any others that are up there, I just
got a report from a train guard friend who just started work at
LITHGOW. He reports: - 
As at 13:20pm, roads to Hampton and Oberon closed due snow and ice. 
Road to Bathurst still open.  Some sleet still falling.

davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au wrote:
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> HI all..
> 
> Just spoke with Jimmy who is on road to Blue Mountains and Oberon way.. Can
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> Sms Jimmy on 0408020468.
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Further to the below, I managed to sneak out long enough to grab my camera and head to Hill 60 for a couple of photos at 11am. There is ample snow on the ground visible on the east of Mt Murray, and it would be easily to the top of Macquarie Pass which is around 600m asl. For the snow to be readily seen through showers from 30km away would probably indicate a good few cms on the ground.

 

 Reports of snow falling at Robertson and Moss Vale this morning on the radio. I've got to say it felt like it when I was running to work, very cold even with beanie, rain gear, tights, and the usual running gear on. In fact though I'd say it is colder now than at 5:30 when I left. So stuck at work, no car, no camera, no sight of the mountains and it's all happening a short 30min drive away!! My only remaining chance to to convince the boss to lend me the company car and claim back a couple of the many hours owing to me at present. If not, hope any snow lasts to this afternoon. I hope everyone chasing snow up and down the mountains today gets plenty of the white stuff, but get back home safely as well. One last hurrah for winter.

Cheers 
Andrew Godsman 
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Hi Michael,

Wow - that was a nice storm!

Am I allowed to drive down to Sydney and whack some sense into you so
that you might get more excited over things worth getting excited about?
:-)

AC

Michael Thompson wrote:
> 
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> in the Illawarra.
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More to reports of snow in Oberon..  Light rain falling in Oberon,
hopefully cold enough to keep snowing.    Appar 10 inches snow at Shooters
Hill..

Jim just sent SMS stating wet snow at Bells Line Rd..

Raining lightly in Bathurst now.

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:00:13 +1000
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Hi all,

At 8:15pm it started snowing in Glen Innes for 15mins then it stopped
and the temp hovered around 2C.  At 10:30pm the highway was closed to
traffic, so Paul and I had to do some creative work to get around the
roadblock and head towards Ben Lomond - there wasn't a lot of snow (I
think it was closed for precautionary only), and we had some moderate
snow fall with 1-2cm on the ground - none was settling on the road.

We headed back to Glen Innes and set the alarm for 5:20am, then headed
back out - the highway was re-opened, and there was a covering of a few
centremetres around the place.  We then we to the farm where we were a
fair bit on the Armidale retreat - some more so, with puddles iced over,
probably about 4-5cm deep (the snow), but doing a 3(6) point turn on the
small dirt track, we nearly got bogged in the snow as the snow had got
caught up in the wheels!  Fortunately, we were able to get out of that
without too much of a hassle and remained on the dirt!

We pottered around and generally had a look at the snow - basically all
the hills, mountains and trees were covered with snow - it was quite
pretty!  The odd snow-shower passed over, and the temp hovered around -1
to -2C.

We then slowly headed back to Glen Innes and packed up and headed back
home.  Approximately 30km S of Tenterfield I woke up Paul as I quickly
stopped the car and did a u-turn - I'd just seen huge patches of white
beside the road!  At first I wasn't sure if it was snow - but it was
actually hail!  And it was all fused together!  Some rather large chunks
- one about half a metre long, it weighed several kilos.  We both have
photos of each other holding it up, I was then going to get video
footage of the same thing - but after holding it for a while, my poor
warmblooded Brisbanite hands couldn't stand the coldness anymore and I
put it down too quickly and it broke :(  So have to wait for the
photo...but I'll try and get a proper report and captures done in the
meantime.

Paul and I also went stormchasing yesterday - perhaps not the most
successful (was difficult with the storms moving so quickly), but some
very nice structure, CGs and a funnel.

-- 
Anthony Cornelius
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Aurora may be enhanced late tonight or Monday

See: http://www.spaceweather.com/
and
http://www.spacew.com/www/aurora.html

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>At my last check of the skies out to see from Port Kembla (approx 13:30 EST), there is some nice tall cumulous which were pileus capped. Also reasonably high anvils with snow trails under. Could be an interesting afternoon to come yet. Unable to site the snow at Robertson from work, but the look I had seemed to show showers rather than snow falling, but it would be marginal, probably a mix of rain/snow.</FONT></P>

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>1340 EST:</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Keep those snow reports coming too :)</FONT>
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From: davidkc at advanceenergy.com.au
Subject: aus-wx: Snow- Mt Lambie
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HI all.

Update from Jimmy who is at Mt Lambie now,, he advised started to snow more
heavily as I was speaking to him..   Raining/sleet in Bathurst now.

Dave


Mount Boyce
Date / Time = 27 15:00
Temperature = 2.6 C
Dew Point = 2.2 C
Relative Humidity = 97 %
Wind Direction = WSW
Wind Speed = 31 km/h
Nautical Wind Speed = 17 knots
Wind Gust = 46 km/h
Nautical Wind Gust = 25 knots
Barometric Pressure = N/F
Rain Since 9am = 1.4 mm


Bathurst
Date / Time = 27 15:00
Temperature = 5.8 C
Dew Point = 4.6 C
Relative Humidity = 92 %
Wind Direction = W
Wind Speed = 24 km/h
Nautical Wind Speed = 13 knots
Wind Gust = 41 km/h
Nautical Wind Gust = 22 knots
Barometric Pressure = 998.6 hPa
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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:52:53 +1000
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As mentioned below, we have had a good fall (1-2 cm) in Taralga but
given the conditions I was sure it would be alot better at our vinyard
on the hills (960m) to the east of town, and I wasn't dissapointed!

I ended up spending the morning in the best snow I have ever seen. The
average cover was about 1 foot deep with drifts of 3 feet, and it was
nice and dry. A few centimeters fell while I was out there in the form
of very heavy snow with flakes much bigger than 50 cent pieces. The
terrain out there is similar to a mini snowy mountains and it might as
well be thredbo today.

If it wasn't rain/sleeting, that stuff would be around for weeks - but
it'll still be there for days regardless!

It's 5 degrees and drizzling in Taralga now with only patches of snow
left lying around after heavy rain for the last few hours. I doubt there
will be any more snow now with the cold air gone.

Andrew.


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> Hi all,
> 
> Been snowing for a couple of hours in Taralga now. Snow reported all
> around here and also in Goulnurn with all school bus services in the
> area cancelled.
> 
> The hume highway is closed (both dierctions) at Towrang, a couple of Ks
> north of Goulburn.
> 
> We have about a centimetre cover which at times gets a little deeper if
> the temp falls to 0. It's hovering between 0 and 0.7 at the moment.
> 
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hi ppl!!
here's some stills i got from yesterdays evening storm as it approached and
passed over the gold coast. these were takin not long after the sun sat :)
all in about the W - NW direction
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01082602.jpg
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01082603.jpg
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01082604.jpg
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01082605.jpg
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01082606.jpg

the storms, as they floated out to sea, created a beautiful end to the day.
bubbling cb were alighted by the every 5 second light show. unfortunately
due to my negligence, i got disoriented and got no images from that, sorry.
shit happens
cyas




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Mon 27 Aug - 1700

Wohooooooooooooooooooooooo
Can you beleive it, been chasing for 3 years and have never seen a Funnel 
cloud before ..... until Today !!!!
Wow what a sight and all from Work !! A lovely cj screaming north off the 
coast of Sydney at about 1645 and low and behold out of the bottom of the 
updraught a funnel drops down into the Water !
Cant imagine what the feeling must be like when you see a Tornado for the 
first time, if its half as good as this then I cant wait !
Hopefully might be some more with the Cold Air above and Low sitting to the 
South !
and yes I did get a photo .. hey even if it is a disposable camera ! just 
hope it comes out

James Harris

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There's a lovely image on the CSIRO website at the mo:

http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SE12738.gif

In case it's gone already:
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/noaa200108270420.gif


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Indications today that the Illawarra was under the centre of the low around
late morning.

From 3am to approx 9am we had moderate rain driven by gale force W/SW winds.
These winds suddenly eased mid morning and the sun came out. The ocean even
glassed off for a brief period.

Later this afternoon the rain, albeit light, has returned and winds are
again slowly increasing from the S/SW. It seems that the low centre may be
edging NE.

If so , we can expect an intensification of rain and winds later tonight.

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From: "Michael Thompson" <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
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Thanks Anthony, it was a season opener. Tended to look better than it was. I
was hoping to get some CG pics but my 2 year old daughter on the chase with
me was not wanting to stay still.

Michael


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> Hi Michael,
>
> Wow - that was a nice storm!
>
> Am I allowed to drive down to Sydney and whack some sense into you so
> that you might get more excited over things worth getting excited about?
> :-)
>
> AC
>
> Michael Thompson wrote:
> >
> > I have put up a chase report and some pictures of the storm this
afternoon
> > in the Illawarra.
> >
> > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase23.htm
> >
> > The first photo is a 2 shot stitch together job.
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all again,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well, what a day for the Illawarra. Snow, and 
plenty of it for the escarpment, very cold and wet, and now a developing EC low 
directly offshore.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>When I left to run to work this morning it was 
8.7deg (5:20am EST), when the cold air and truly wild weather arrived at around 
6:40am is was just safely through and into the showers and it would have been 
shortly after this time that my thermometer at North Wollongong bottomed out at 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then at 11am when I took a couple of photos of 
Robertson and the snow I was very aware of the chances of waterspouts and being 
at Hill 60 had a good look before I left, I spotted two suspicous lowerings of 
scud which were developing along a medium cumulous cloud. I took a photo but 
they didn't really amount to much and never really showed much in the way of a 
funel shape. None-the-less they were the beginnings of waterspouts by what I saw 
back in July on the cruise.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Then running back home this afternoon, again I kept 
an eye on the water, but didn't really see anything of interest, but when I took 
my fiance out for a jog at 5:30, WOW. As we got out at Stuart Park we instantly 
spotted two funnel shaped lowerings that would have been around 8-10km offshore 
and pretty much directly east of the lighthouse point. As we watched and jogged 
a third funnel appeared from behind some rain, and the visible portion was at 
least two thirds to the water. We watched for a while as we jogged and 
definately saw two funnels which would have been separated by no more than 1km, 
stirring up water from the ocean. The condensation never got more than 
two-thirds of the way down after this, but even after there was no visible 
portion of one of the funnels, the water was still being stirred at two places. 
We were both stoked. Only problem being that the camera was still at work, 
seeing as I don't carry anything but a few keys when running. A great day, with 
snow, very cold temps, three funnels spotted, and 32kms run. Can't ask for much 
better than that, especially given the thunderstorm with CG's at Homebush 
yesterday as we raced the NSW long distance road relays.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Peter Konnecke" <konno at optusnet.com.au>
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I was on the Hume Highway at Pheasants Nest at approx 10:00am .... there was
a blue patch and some sun
... this was preceeded by some heavy winds ....

Saw plenty of the white stuff today near Bowral and Sutton Forest .... the
most I've seen near Sydney for about
5 years .... lots piled on cars and very sticky too .... was stuck all the
way up the power poles.

Pete


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> Indications today that the Illawarra was under the centre of the low
around
> late morning.
>
> From 3am to approx 9am we had moderate rain driven by gale force W/SW
winds.
> These winds suddenly eased mid morning and the sun came out. The ocean
even
> glassed off for a brief period.
>
> Later this afternoon the rain, albeit light, has returned and winds are
> again slowly increasing from the S/SW. It seems that the low centre may be
> edging NE.
>
> If so , we can expect an intensification of rain and winds later tonight.
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://ozthunder.com
>
>
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Some significant rainfall totals emerging. Most of these totals have
accumulated since midnight:

Araluen: 59mm 24h to 9am, 52mm 9am to 6pm
Bodalla: 51/67
Moruya AP: 34/61
Montague Is: 65/76

Lowest pressure on the coast at 6pm was Sydney Airport with 995.5, and most
places between Norah Head and the Vic border somewhere below 997.

Laurier


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>
>
> Indications today that the Illawarra was under the centre of the
> low around
> late morning.
>
> From 3am to approx 9am we had moderate rain driven by gale force
> W/SW winds.
> These winds suddenly eased mid morning and the sun came out. The
> ocean even
> glassed off for a brief period.
>
> Later this afternoon the rain, albeit light, has returned and winds are
> again slowly increasing from the S/SW. It seems that the low centre may be
> edging NE.
>
> If so , we can expect an intensification of rain and winds later tonight.
>
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Hi all,

Not as exciting as the snowfall in NSW, but in Queensland on the other end
of the front we had a storm move through - wasting no time...cold wind
squalls, some cg lightning and only a short downpour which was over in
10-15 minutes and the skies clear behind it...

A 'stitched' panorama of the storm approaching from the south west is on
the web at:

http://www.schools.ash.org.au/paa/panoramas/elimbawinterstorm.html

Hope you enjoy it folks - I was lucky to have a tripod and the work digital
camera on hand to capture it this way...I hope to put up some short videos
too soon as mpegs from storms here with lightning strikes.

Great to read allthe snow reports and wish I was there to see it.

Call me crazy - perhaps I should be satisfied with all this sunshine and warm?

I'm the kind of person who travels to Canada in their winter...

:-)

Cheers all,

Sel Kerans
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Hey People

I almost thought I was looking at the models from last week when I looked at
GASP and EC this afternoon. GASP has a very similar system to the one that
has just occurred, recurring this coming weekend. It doesn't have the deep
low off the east coast, but sets it up with a strong upper level low. EC has
a deep low in eastern Bass Strait on the weekend, bring it on.

Will be following this systems development on my web page.

www.vicstorms.com  (model talk)

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Hi all,

This may be of interest...? Anyone know anything about this to confirm?

This is off another weather list.

Regards

Sel


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>#Contact: Rosemary Sullivant, JPL, (818) 354-0474
>#    Lori Stiles, University of Arizona, (520) 626-4402
>#
>#FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE                                   August 20, 2001
>#
>#NASA GIVES POLE-TO-POLE VIEW OF CLOUD HEIGHTS AND WINDS
>#
>#      Scientists for the first time ever can simultaneously measure the
>#height and motion of clouds over Earth from pole to pole, which may
>improve
>#weather forecasts.
>#
>#      Never before have researchers directly measured cloud heights from a
>#single satellite, simultaneously measured cloud heights and winds, and
>done
>#this above Earth's polar regions as well as lower latitudes.
>#
>#...etc.....
>#
>
>Wx-talkers,
>Is the NASA press release accurate?  yes, but...
>
>MISR is an exciting new instrument.  By viewing
>clouds initially with forward-looking cameras and
>then later with aft-looking cameras, MISR can determine
>cloud height stereoscopically.  I am not aware of this
>aspect being done previously.
>
>Using clouds and or water vapor as "tracers" to
>determine wind fields is an excellent technique,
>but not new.  NCDC even offers these products for
>GOES-9.  Check the following URLs for more info:
>
>http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/goes/misc/wv/
>http://orbit-net.nesdis.noaa.gov/goes/winds/html/rmtch8ir.html
>
>By applying these techniques to a polar-orbiter, the Arctic
>and Antarctic can now be added to the rest of the planet with
>respect to satellite-observed wind coverage via tracers.
>
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Hi Peter,

Welcome to the list. Snow chasing - great stuff. I love the snow as well.

Jimmy Deguara

At 02:30 PM 8/26/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Damian,
>
>This is my very first post in the list.
>
>I saw some flashes to the west last night when I was driving home from Dee
>Why beach back to Beacon Hill. I guess it was those storms you mention.
>Thanks for the info was wondering where it was coming from.
>
>Looks like some activity building up between Camden and Bowral at the
>moment.
>
>My girlfriend and I went snow chasing in the mountains last weekend but alas
>it had melted.
>
>Pete
>
>
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>Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Katoomba
>
>
> > Good rain has been falling here in Katoomba Blue Mountains NSW for an
> > hour or two. It's now 2 pm. The temperature has dropped from around 10
> > degrees to 7.5 degrees. Hopefully it gets alot colder soon. Had some
> > nice thunder & lightning last night but no rain.
> > Was driving home very late Wednesday night driving through Katoomba &
> > snow was falling creating drifts up Katoomba's main Street. It was a
> > nice sight!
> >
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Hi all,

Well yesterday, Geoff and I went to the eastern Hunter region in chase of 
the prefrontal trough. This lingered near the Buladelah area for some time 
but as the day heated up, the trough moved generally east. This linked to 
the activity on the North Coast and the activity off the coast.

Well once this trough began to move east, there was the chance of another 
line of towers developing - in fact quite quickly but the winds changed and 
these fell apart. So we moved from Stroud to Dungog - closer and in 
position to chase the approaching main thunderstorm band.

We had our eyes on the storms Matt Smith was on but then stayed at Dungog 
for lunch and watched some towers develop nearby. These developed and 
became organised into a reasonable line of thunderstorms - reasonably 
active as well (got some cg's on video - perhaps the highlight of the day). 
We watched this activity from a high point in the outskirts of Dungog, and 
then as the lightning activity drew near and the storm indicated some 
reasonable hail shafts, we headed with the system. First stop was Clarence 
Town and then on to Bucketts Way back to the Pacific Highway. We were 
merging in and out of the thunderstorm as it developed watching several 
flashes from Cg's - some close ones. We then headed towards the Williamtown 
area. Geoff and I watched in awe as a nice pink lightning bolt struck up 
the road and lit up the sky. No not on camera.

As we neared Williamtown, we just watched the storm clear out past the 
Stockton Beach sand dunes. There were some lowerings but clearly the wind 
shear was more supportive of squall lone type activity which is what this 
developed into. We were observing the northern end. It was still fairly 
active whilst off the coast. We then headed home after noting a lack fo 
features from the next band of storms. The storms observed in Sydney and 
Illawarra were better looking and perhaps more what the storm we chased 
looked near Williamtown had we been in front of it.

Today, Monday, I arrived to school noting I had a quick easy day - return 
favour from the deputy Principal. Well, all I could see on my sheet was 
SNOW....... Gosh I am sick...

Anyway, I eventually finished at 12:30pm and was on my way out by 1pm 
getting to Mt Lambie about 2:30pm or so. (I did not venture to Oberon 
because of the road closures... I could see snow on the mountain from the 
service station there. I looked and found the entrance road to the summit 
of Mt Lambie (elevation 1290m). It wound its way up to the hill and the 
snow patches turned to a widespread cover. Some sago snow was falling as I 
rose in elevation. I took a few photos and some video of the snow depth. 
Eventually I made it to the top and watched some snow showers with cold 
fresh winds come across. It was quite interesting watching the cloud hug 
some of the hills and come across from time to time.

But there wasn't to be any heavy snow falls. It was reasonably cold but 
starting to warm a little and the rain was only light. I called it quits 
around 5:10pm ad headed down. I then noted that the depth of snow I had 
passed was about 1 foot protected from the winds on the gutter. Wow. I took 
some pics and video of this as it is the deepest snow I have seen yet. Well 
a small area of it.

Now I make it to the highway and receive an SMS from Tim Pascoe who had 
observed 4 funnels (waterspouts). Nice stuff. I will keep you posted on these.

Mt Lambie is a nice high spot reasonably close to Lithgow - one that should 
not be overlooked. It is higher than Oberon and almost as high as those 
other peaks. No wonder it can get cut off from time to time.

Jimmy Deguara

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Hi all,

Our NZ members may wish to comment on this one.

I noticed this small cyclonic eddy in the low level clouds off New 
Zealand's south island:

http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/noaa200108271808crop.gif

Full image is here:
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/noaa200108271808.gif

And the surface chart at the same time 4am shows nothing much:
http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082804.gif


I'm wondering if this is a common feature with the lower level winds coming 
up against the mountains there ?

regards, Michael


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Hi all

I just heard this amusing comment which was said by a US forecaster who
was in Sydney during the Olympics.  

"The rule to staying alive as a forecaster is to give 'em a number or a
date, but not both!"


Cheers

--

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:21:02 +1000
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Just read the BoM significant weather summary for May, and there was a
confirmed sighting of a tornado, get this, with a 180km path (yes
180km). The BoM estimate it was on the ground fro 3 hours (yes 3 hours!)

Seems like one amazing even. Here is the link to the article
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0501.shtml

Anyway I sure found it interesting, hope others do as well!

Matthew Smith

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         Hi there
            A little surprising storm just crept over Glenorie at 220pm, 
2cgs, some heavy rain, no hail but very large drops, still raining quite 
hard, got the reverse video camera effect too, 2 seconds into filming the 
oncoming downdraught one of the cg's occured, might buy a $2 
scratchie.......

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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:25:47 +1000
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The following was in the Sydney Morning Herald today in their article
titled "Inland snowfalls wreak havoc" on page 5.

"A thunderstorm hit Sydney about 3PM. As it moved from the north-west to
the State's south-east, it brought inland hail and snow".

Would anyone like to hazard a guess at where the got this rubbish from?

Andrew.
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I also had two cells come through here in the past 40 minutes. There were a
few rumbles, some very heavy rain-7mm--and some brief hail. Whats more,
these showers i coming from the SW.

SE QLD coastal showers from the SW!! ;)


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>          Hi there
>             A little surprising storm just crept over Glenorie at 220pm,
> 2cgs, some heavy rain, no hail but very large drops, still raining quite
> hard, got the reverse video camera effect too, 2 seconds into filming the
> oncoming downdraught one of the cg's occured, might buy a $2
> scratchie.......
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Some low topped cold air CB's going up in the hunter ATM, giving some
heavy showers, and you can see the snow line quiet clearly, no lightning
but nice to watch.

Matt Smith

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Well, this is news to me.  
I've put together some wv and ir images which shows the development of a
_possible_ candidate cell:

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Weather/2001_05_06/wa_tornado.html


On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Matthew Smith wrote:

> 
> Just read the BoM significant weather summary for May, and there was a
> confirmed sighting of a tornado, get this, with a 180km path (yes
> 180km). The BoM estimate it was on the ground fro 3 hours (yes 3 hours!)
> 
> Seems like one amazing even. Here is the link to the article
> http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/public/sigwxsum/sigw0501.shtml
> 
> Anyway I sure found it interesting, hope others do as well!

Cheers

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Yes I read that too.. I was in the city all day and there was no storm
there.
The journalism is a classic case of elliptical grammar and half truth.
And quite frankly I really don't have much time for anything the Herald
chooses to print, at least most of it...

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> The following was in the Sydney Morning Herald today in their article
> titled "Inland snowfalls wreak havoc" on page 5.
>
> "A thunderstorm hit Sydney about 3PM. As it moved from the north-west to
> the State's south-east, it brought inland hail and snow".
>
> Would anyone like to hazard a guess at where the got this rubbish from?
>
> Andrew.
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<x-flowed>
Hi all,

Today's weather is more indicative of the weather we get during a wintery 
outbreak in spring. I found today's weather very similar to the weather we 
got on the following day in 1990:

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1990/1012jd01.jpg

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1990/1012jd02.jpg

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1990/1012jd03.jpg

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1990/1012jd04.jpg

http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/1990/1012jd05.jpg

I note this is common each year in Spring on at least one day sometimes 2 
days. This reminded me of a similar event in the early 1980's. We had two 
days of unstable southwesterlies. There were thunderstorms developing in a 
more spectacular fashion than today. I think there were snowfalls and 
obviously hail was on the forecast in northern NSW. Schofields can reap the 
rewards on these type of days as we have had some reasonable rain in the 
past few days. 8.0mm + 8.0mm + what happened today.

Cya

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from
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Hi all,

Well - what a Melbourne-like day it was in Toowoomba!  (Hence the
subject line), left Brisbane just after 6am and it was hovering around
13-14C for the entire journey with strong-gale force W'ly winds to
Toowoomba.  At Withcott it was 13.8C, and then started climbing the
range (~400-500m climb, Toowoomba is approximately 650m).  The temp was
falling so fast I nearly put my hand underneath the car thermo to catch
it!  Normally on windy, cloudy days the temperature difference between
Withcott and Toowoomba is at a minimum.  But by the time I got up the
top it was 7.2C, cloudy with gale force winds!  Some high based
Stratocumulus drizzle showers about, most probably snow/sleet but melted
as it fell and evaporated (just like Melbourne).  Wheelie bins were all
over the footpaths and roads - it was blistering cold at uni, by far the
coldest start (due to wind chill). 

And to make it feel even more like Melbourne (as if cold, windy and
Stratocumulus wasn't enough!)  The DPs were quite "high" - I use this
loosely, but in a strong W'ly stream DPs are normally -5/-6 in the
Downs.  However, today they hovered around 2-3C, and so did most of SE
QLD (some higher), no doubt some moisture wrapping around.  Again - just
like Melbourne with DPs in the low single figures instead of negatives!

Coming back this afternoon, some advertising signs near Gatton had been
damaged - one was pushed out of its foundations and another appeared to
be snapped off from the poles.
-- 
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Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
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Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
(no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!

further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
snow was also reported along this line.

Cheers,
Don White
Cheertaher.
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<x-flowed>
Hi Anthony,

You simply had to be on top of Mt Lambie west of Lithgow yesterday. You 
would have turned into a snow Anthony - knowing that you are not fond of 
the cold :) I tried to show off as usual and stay outside in the wind but 
simply had to jump back in the car. The wind was strong so the wind chill 
was unbearable.

Jimmy Deguara

At 08:00 PM 8/28/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Well - what a Melbourne-like day it was in Toowoomba!  (Hence the
>subject line), left Brisbane just after 6am and it was hovering around
>13-14C for the entire journey with strong-gale force W'ly winds to
>Toowoomba.  At Withcott it was 13.8C, and then started climbing the
>range (~400-500m climb, Toowoomba is approximately 650m).  The temp was
>falling so fast I nearly put my hand underneath the car thermo to catch
>it!  Normally on windy, cloudy days the temperature difference between
>Withcott and Toowoomba is at a minimum.  But by the time I got up the
>top it was 7.2C, cloudy with gale force winds!  Some high based
>Stratocumulus drizzle showers about, most probably snow/sleet but melted
>as it fell and evaporated (just like Melbourne).  Wheelie bins were all
>over the footpaths and roads - it was blistering cold at uni, by far the
>coldest start (due to wind chill).
>
>And to make it feel even more like Melbourne (as if cold, windy and
>Stratocumulus wasn't enough!)  The DPs were quite "high" - I use this
>loosely, but in a strong W'ly stream DPs are normally -5/-6 in the
>Downs.  However, today they hovered around 2-3C, and so did most of SE
>QLD (some higher), no doubt some moisture wrapping around.  Again - just
>like Melbourne with DPs in the low single figures instead of negatives!
>
>Coming back this afternoon, some advertising signs near Gatton had been
>damaged - one was pushed out of its foundations and another appeared to
>be snapped off from the poles.
>--
>Anthony Cornelius
>Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
>Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
>(07) 3390 4812
>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Barrington Tops snow: Heaviest in 5 years
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:21:45 +1000
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just this afternoon I came back from a two day snow 
chase of the Barrington Tops, staying overnight at our property near 
Scone.</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yesterday morning I was a little too late 
in that the bloomin national parks closed the road to Polblue, which is at 
1500m. So therefore, I had to go to Hunter Springs/Tomalla instead. Hunter 
Springs and Tomalla is a farming area set on a 1200-1300m plateau of the 
Barrington Tops. The snow was brillant around this area, with average depths of 
10-15cm and it was quiet dry. The winds were blowing at around 25-30kts. This 
made it very unpleasant, as there was a lot of windblown snow!! </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I met up with a fella who managed to drive from 
Polblue&nbsp;to Hunter Springs. He got through before they closed the roads. He 
said that the snow on the roads around Polblue was&nbsp;much deeper then that of 
Hunter Springs with 2 foot in some places.&nbsp;Cars, even 4WD's were apparently 
getting stuck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I went back up to&nbsp;Hunter Springs this morning 
to see how much more snow there had been since the day before. I got there today 
at around 11am and found the snow to be brilliant. It was 25cm average, with 
drifts easily up to 60cm in places. There was a wet 45cm of snow on the road in 
places. It was a&nbsp;lot of fun to drive in and gave my&nbsp;4WD a good 
workout.&nbsp; The paddocks were completely white and much of the bull grass 
that lies in the paddocks of Tomalla was covered. Bull grass is quiet long, 
usually about 15-30cm high. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As I drove towards Hunter Springs, much of the 
locals were out with Energy Australia and Telstra trying to clear the 
roads&nbsp;from fallen trees.&nbsp;Due&nbsp;to the&nbsp;wind and the&nbsp;snow, 
all telephones and power were cut off. I hopped out of my car and&nbsp;gave them 
a hand clearing some of the&nbsp;branches. I ended up&nbsp;having a bit of a 
yarn with them about the snow. They all said that it was the biggest dumping of 
snow for 5 years in the area. But&nbsp;the most interesting thing they said, was 
when they started talking about the times (you know the good ole days type of 
talk) in the last 20 to 25&nbsp;years when the snow has&nbsp;completely buried 
there fences and has made haysheds collapse due to the weight!!&nbsp;I honestly 
can tell you, by the way they were talking about it, it was not an exaggeration. 
There way of telling how deep the snow&nbsp;is, is by seeing how&nbsp;far 
it&nbsp;comes up on the fences. They say when there is 3 or more feet of 
snow&nbsp;on the paddocks, the fences usually completely go under!!! They say 
that this has happened a&nbsp;few times in the last 20 to 25 years. They say 
that the last time it got this deep&nbsp;was around 1992 or 1993. </FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>The snow today was between the first and second strand of wire 
on the fence (no where near buried) and they say that is usually typical of 
about 9 to 10 inches.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All in all, it was an excellent experience and 
adventure.&nbsp;Saw brilliant snow in the middle of nowhere, got my&nbsp;car 
dirty and had some fun&nbsp;4WDriving. I am not sure how much snow there would 
have been on the higher elevations of the Barrington Tops, but going by my own 
experience, the higher areas always receives deeper snow depths then that at 
Hunter Springs. I have seen Polblue covered in a fresh 15cm and Hunter Springs 
with no snow at all on the ground. Going by how much there was at Hunter Springs 
I would say that there could be&nbsp;around 35cm average depth at 
Polblue.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Tim</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Ben Tichborne" <tich at netaccess.co.nz>
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Subject: aus-wx: Recent NSW southerly storm
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 22:44:50 +1200
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> The following was in the Sydney Morning Herald today in their article
> titled "Inland snowfalls wreak havoc" on page 5.

> THE start of spring might only be days away but you wouldn^Òt know it by
the
> steady snowfalls throughout the New England yesterday.

 The ECL that hammered NSW lately sounds rather similar, meteorologically,
to the storm that dumped heavy rain, gales, and snow throughout the central
and lower North Island a few weeks ago, but the NZ storm was probably quite
a bit worse and more prolonged, with widespread power-cuts and even a train
service halted by heavy (30cm +) snow on the central plateau.

Ben
Christchurch
NZ

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Hi Jimmy,

This sounds similar to what Paul and I experienced at Ben Lomond - we
were at the same farmers paddock as Armidale, and we couldn't stay
outside for longer than 2-3mins, the wind was so strong and it was -2C,
it was just unbearable!

You have to becareful with "Snow Anthonys", should they collapse, it'd
be an avalanch...

AC

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony,
> 
> You simply had to be on top of Mt Lambie west of Lithgow yesterday. You
> would have turned into a snow Anthony - knowing that you are not fond of
> the cold :) I tried to show off as usual and stay outside in the wind but
> simply had to jump back in the car. The wind was strong so the wind chill
> was unbearable.
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 08:00 PM 8/28/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Well - what a Melbourne-like day it was in Toowoomba!  (Hence the
> >subject line), left Brisbane just after 6am and it was hovering around
> >13-14C for the entire journey with strong-gale force W'ly winds to
> >Toowoomba.  At Withcott it was 13.8C, and then started climbing the
> >range (~400-500m climb, Toowoomba is approximately 650m).  The temp was
> >falling so fast I nearly put my hand underneath the car thermo to catch
> >it!  Normally on windy, cloudy days the temperature difference between
> >Withcott and Toowoomba is at a minimum.  But by the time I got up the
> >top it was 7.2C, cloudy with gale force winds!  Some high based
> >Stratocumulus drizzle showers about, most probably snow/sleet but melted
> >as it fell and evaporated (just like Melbourne).  Wheelie bins were all
> >over the footpaths and roads - it was blistering cold at uni, by far the
> >coldest start (due to wind chill).
> >
> >And to make it feel even more like Melbourne (as if cold, windy and
> >Stratocumulus wasn't enough!)  The DPs were quite "high" - I use this
> >loosely, but in a strong W'ly stream DPs are normally -5/-6 in the
> >Downs.  However, today they hovered around 2-3C, and so did most of SE
> >QLD (some higher), no doubt some moisture wrapping around.  Again - just
> >like Melbourne with DPs in the low single figures instead of negatives!
> >
> >Coming back this afternoon, some advertising signs near Gatton had been
> >damaged - one was pushed out of its foundations and another appeared to
> >be snapped off from the poles.
> >--
> >Anthony Cornelius
> >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> >(07) 3390 4812
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> -----------------------------------------
> Jimmy Deguara
> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> 
> from
> Schofields, Sydney
> NSW Australia
> 
> e-mail:jdeguara at ihug.com.au
> 
> Web Page with Michael Bath
> 
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> 
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<x-flowed>
Hi Don,

One thing I noted was the banding that occurred both on satellite picture 
and also on radar. The bands moved more in the direction along the line 
rather than across meaning that certain areas would receive most of the 
rain and others would miss out nearby. Orographic uplift also played an 
important part in the heavy rainfall and snow on the upper regions. This 
would explain the observation but the cause for this behaviour?

Jimmy Deguara

At 06:20 PM 8/28/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
>snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
>heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
>Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
>24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
>near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
>pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
>mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
>between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
>(no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
>minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
>the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!
>
>further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
>south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
>mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
>30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
>Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
>snow was also reported along this line.
>
>Cheers,
>Don White
>Cheertaher.
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: Don White - Unusual Rain Event in NSW
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:31:41 +1000
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, you wrote:
> Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
> snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
> heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
> Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
> 24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
> near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
> pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
> mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
> between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
> (no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
> minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
> the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!
> 
> further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
> south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
> mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
> 30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
> Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
> snow was also reported along this line.
> 
> Cheers,
> Don White
> Cheertaher.
Don
I'm sending this in the hope that I might flush a comment on your analysis out
of our son Andrew. As he reported yesterday, we had very heavy snow on top of
Bannaby Hill, which is 7 km due east of Taralga. He was telling me then that the
cold pool - which caused the unusual precipitation - might well have been
centred right above that spot yesterday morning. Certainly, having a look at
Dave Carroll's reports to this list through yesterday suggests that we might
have had a bigger dump there than at Oberon, which is most unusual, unheard of,
in fact.
So, the snow event was unusual, the biggest we have seen in the 12
years we've been there, by a long way. And yes, there were a lot more power
lines out around our little part of the world than Dave's reports suggest. (I
am in awe of the blokes who go out and fix them in such appalling conditions!)

Confirm that we had very heavy rain in the village itself during the course of
the afternoon and evening behind the snow. So did Goulburn, as you see from
today's 9 am Obs. But, looking from the village at the mass of very dark, low
cloud around Bannaby Hill which persisted there until late in the day, I
suspect it was still snowing there until well into the afternoon. Whether there
was some demarcation line between rain and snow, between the village and
Bannaby Hill, or just the difference in altitude (Bannaby Hill is 130 metres
higher than Taralga), I do not know.
Maximum temperature yesterday was around 8-9 degrees - which occurred after 9 pm
last night.
Hope this is helpful.
I await with interest your copy in the Land this week.
cheers
Paul Miskelly
Cushendall/Glenarm Vineyards
TARALGA
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Hi all

Here's some photos from the last few months that I finally got around to
scanning:

http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Aug/photos.html

I like the way the snow pics came out as the light was quite dull at the
time.


Cheers

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From: " Craig Arthur" <z2211415 at student.unsw.edu.au>
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If you think the Herald was bad, the Telegraph (Trashograph as I like to
call it) had a short story yesterday (Mon 27/8) about how the sea temps off
Sydney were warmer for the past week than for the same time about 5 years
ago. That's all fine, 18.3C for 2001 is warmer that the 17.6C in 1996, but
what about the 19C they listed in 1998??? If they're going to put in
statistics, at least don't put in contradictory ones!

Craig

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Yes I read that too.. I was in the city all day and there was no storm
there.
The journalism is a classic case of elliptical grammar and half truth.
And quite frankly I really don't have much time for anything the Herald
chooses to print, at least most of it...

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> The following was in the Sydney Morning Herald today in their article
> titled "Inland snowfalls wreak havoc" on page 5.
>
> "A thunderstorm hit Sydney about 3PM. As it moved from the north-west to
> the State's south-east, it brought inland hail and snow".
>
> Would anyone like to hazard a guess at where the got this rubbish from?
>
> Andrew.
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All,

Regarding heavy rainfall, I agree with what Jimmy has said here, having
also observed the 'train' like effect on radar. The only cause of this I
can suggest is possibly some obscure effect of the configuration of the
low and surrounding high pressure ridges combined with terrain and
moisture levels.

I think the actual snowfalls may have had alot to do with oragraphic
cooling of air as the system itself wasn't all that cold - and that is
ofcourse completely dependant on the direction that the weather was
coming from.

In the case of the falls in the Southern Highlands and Southern and
Central Tablelands, I think the cold air coming onshore moistened and
cooled nicely going up the coastal escarpment which provided heavy snow
in places like Robertson and Bowral and then moderated a bit going
inland where Goulburn for example, despite being slightly higher than
Bowral, had less snow. The air was then cooled again as it lifted on the
Cook-Bundoon ranges which extend north from Goulburn and turn into the
rugged country between Picton and Taralga to an altitude of almost 1000m
in places.

Our vineyard on top of Bannaby Hill is right on the peak of this range
and that is where I believe we had the best falls in the state with
drifts of up to 3 feet of dry snow.

The air once again moderated moving over the flat tablelands, providing
a wet cover of a few centimeters between the eastern ranges and the high
country south of Oberon where the air once again lifted and good falls
were observed.

I beleive the same thing occured last year when I chased for snow up in
Robertson one night and we had similar falls around Taralga before it
was all washed away in the same fashion as yesterday as the warmer air
wrapped around the low.

Andrew.



Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> One thing I noted was the banding that occurred both on satellite picture
> and also on radar. The bands moved more in the direction along the line
> rather than across meaning that certain areas would receive most of the
> rain and others would miss out nearby. Orographic uplift also played an
> important part in the heavy rainfall and snow on the upper regions. This
> would explain the observation but the cause for this behaviour?
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 06:20 PM 8/28/01 +1000, you wrote:
> >Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
> >snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
> >heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
> >Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
> >24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
> >near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
> >pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
> >mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
> >between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
> >(no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
> >minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
> >the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!
> >
> >further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
> >south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
> >mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
> >30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
> >Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
> >snow was also reported along this line.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Don White
> >Cheertaher.
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> 
> from
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> NSW Australia
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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Hi Don,

Wow!! That is amazing that there has been that much rain up at Hunter
Springs yesterday afternoon. Hmmm, that would explain why the Hunter River
at Moonan Flat was so swollen. What I don't get is why there was so much
snow still lying on the ground at Hunter Springs today. You would think that
70mm of rain in 2 hours would melt the snow very rapidly. I know at approx.
2pm yesterday it was snowing heavily up at Hunter Springs. Very unusual.
There is one thing that I have just noticed with the daily rain bulletins
issued by the BoM. I noticed that the 24hr Bulletin states that there was
99mm till 9am Tuesday for Hunter Springs, but the weekly rain bulletin
ending 9am Tuesday, says that there was only 42mm for the week. What is
going on here? I am stumped!!!

-Tim



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> Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
> snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
> heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
> Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
> 24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
> near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
> pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
> mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
> between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
> (no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
> minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
> the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!
>
> further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
> south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
> mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
> 30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
> Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
> snow was also reported along this line.
>
> Cheers,
> Don White
> Cheertaher.
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 05:10:28 +1000
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Tim..
The 99 mm report from Hunter Springs (98.8 mm to be exact) was late -
apparently due to power lines outage. The weekly bulletins are prepared
at 9.30 or so so any late reports get left out.
As for the snow on the ground, I was led to believe that a burst of
heavy snow followed the heaviest rain.

Cheers,
Don

Tim Grugeon wrote:
> 
> Hi Don,
> 
> Wow!! That is amazing that there has been that much rain up at Hunter
> Springs yesterday afternoon. Hmmm, that would explain why the Hunter River
> at Moonan Flat was so swollen. What I don't get is why there was so much
> snow still lying on the ground at Hunter Springs today. You would think that
> 70mm of rain in 2 hours would melt the snow very rapidly. I know at approx.
> 2pm yesterday it was snowing heavily up at Hunter Springs. Very unusual.
> There is one thing that I have just noticed with the daily rain bulletins
> issued by the BoM. I noticed that the 24hr Bulletin states that there was
> 99mm till 9am Tuesday for Hunter Springs, but the weekly rain bulletin
> ending 9am Tuesday, says that there was only 42mm for the week. What is
> going on here? I am stumped!!!
> 
> -Tim
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don White" <donwhite at ozemail.com.au>
> To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 6:20 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Unusal Rain Event in NSW
> 
> > Some aspects of the rain event on 27 august associated with the
> > snwofalls in NSW are interesting. As far as can be worked out, a band of
> > heavy precipitation followed the snow event. The Upper Hunter - NW
> > Slopes areas SE of Tamworth received 60-110 mm of rain and snow in the
> > 24 hours to 9 am today (28th) The cut off line was remarkanle. Ogunbil
> > near Nundle had 63 mm - it appears 50 + of this fell between noon and 5
> > pm yesterday yet 20 kmsd to west there was nil. Hunter zsprings had 99
> > mm to 9 am on 27th. Mrs Wright who lives up there says 70 mm fell
> > between 3 & 5 pm yesterday with torrential rain, gusty winds and thunder
> > (no lightning she says?) interspesed by 2 or 3 periods of up to 15
> > minutes of calm conditions and heavy wet snow. Anyone like to guess at
> > the conditions that results in such weather? I am stumped!
> >
> > further south the coastal hills from Araluen and nimmitabel in the
> > south, through Briadwood and ?Nerriga and up to Moss Vale received 40-70
> > mm while on the coast north of Ulladulal there was less than 10 mm and
> > 30 kms west of this line rainfall was minimal. It then trakced NNW to
> > Shooters Hill before fading away. Again, reasonably unusual levels of
> > snow was also reported along this line.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Don White
> > Cheertaher.
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I have just been looking around the Internet for a good Map Site of 
Australia when I stumbled on this beauty.

www.arta.com.au

If you go to the Town Search and type in the name of your town, it will 
bring up a excellent detailed map of the area plus links on the right hand 
side to more detailed town street maps.
The best part is that the maps are location wise and geographically correct. 
Road surfaces from what I have seen are represented to a true standard. And 
the general Layout and view is excellent.
Anyway Im sure some of you will love this site during the next couple of 
seasons... know I will !

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Hi James,

Regrettably it doesn't know about major towns (several of which are classed
as cities these days) such as Ipswich, Toowoomba, Albany or Busselton to
name a few, so it is a bit lacking - also when I tried street search for my
street in Brisbane it crashed.  Guess there is a lot more work to be done on
this site.

John.
>snip

I have just been looking around the Internet for a good Map Site of
Australia when I stumbled on this beauty.

www.arta.com.au

If you go to the Town Search and type in the name of your town, it will
bring up a excellent detailed map of the area plus links on the right hand
side to more detailed town street maps.
The best part is that the maps are location wise and geographically correct.
Road surfaces from what I have seen are represented to a true standard. And
the general Layout and view is excellent.
Anyway Im sure some of you will love this site during the next couple of
seasons... know I will !

James H

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:54:31 +1000
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Very nice Robert, snow ones are great!

Matt

Robert Goler wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Here's some photos from the last few months that I finally got around to
> scanning:
>
> http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/Pictures/2001/Aug/photos.html
>
> I like the way the snow pics came out as the light was quite dull at the
> time.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Robert A. Goler
>
> School of Mathematical Sciences
> Monash University
> Clayton, Vic 3800
> Australia
>
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Hi Michael,
This eddy is a lee eddy. There must have been an easterly wind crossing the
Alps and triggering this cyclonic
surface rotation. I have noticed a lee eddy in this spot before but they are
not common. This is a nice example.
Regards Steven Williams
Auckland observer
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Subject: aus-wx: Eddy off New Zealand


> Hi all,
>
> Our NZ members may wish to comment on this one.
>
> I noticed this small cyclonic eddy in the low level clouds off New
> Zealand's south island:
>
> http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/noaa200108271808crop.gif
>
> Full image is here:
> http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/noaa200108271808.gif
>
> And the surface chart at the same time 4am shows nothing much:
> http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/2001082804.gif
>
>
> I'm wondering if this is a common feature with the lower level winds
coming
> up against the mountains there ?
>
> regards, Michael
>
>
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<x-flowed>

hi all,

I've just uploaded more photos of the flooding here in SW Gippsland last 
week, all of which have now basically receded.You can navigate through the 
site and the 'whats new' section at;
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils
or go directly to the link at;
http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SWGfloods01.htm

enjoy....?

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Great shots Tony and Robert!

These cows must have been hungry, the water looks to be flowing at a fair
pace

http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/Powlett8.htm



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>
> hi all,
>
> I've just uploaded more photos of the flooding here in SW Gippsland last
> week, all of which have now basically receded.You can navigate through the
> site and the 'whats new' section at;
> http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils
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>
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>
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Hi All,

Steady on there, Anthony.  I'll have you and all your Northern buddies know
we actually saw the sun today (for the first time in about 2 weeks, it feels)
and the temp skyrocketed up to about 16 C, DP of 11 C! so there. And no
Sc to be seen anywhere.

Greg Browning,
Sunny Melbourne

Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well - what a Melbourne-like day it was in Toowoomba!  (Hence the
> subject line), left Brisbane just after 6am and it was hovering around
> 13-14C for the entire journey with strong-gale force W'ly winds to
> Toowoomba.  At Withcott it was 13.8C, and then started climbing the
> range (~400-500m climb, Toowoomba is approximately 650m).  The temp was
> falling so fast I nearly put my hand underneath the car thermo to catch
> it!  Normally on windy, cloudy days the temperature difference between
> Withcott and Toowoomba is at a minimum.  But by the time I got up the
> top it was 7.2C, cloudy with gale force winds!  Some high based
> Stratocumulus drizzle showers about, most probably snow/sleet but melted
> as it fell and evaporated (just like Melbourne).  Wheelie bins were all
> over the footpaths and roads - it was blistering cold at uni, by far the
> coldest start (due to wind chill).
>
> And to make it feel even more like Melbourne (as if cold, windy and
> Stratocumulus wasn't enough!)  The DPs were quite "high" - I use this
> loosely, but in a strong W'ly stream DPs are normally -5/-6 in the
> Downs.  However, today they hovered around 2-3C, and so did most of SE
> QLD (some higher), no doubt some moisture wrapping around.  Again - just
> like Melbourne with DPs in the low single figures instead of negatives!
>
> Coming back this afternoon, some advertising signs near Gatton had been
> damaged - one was pushed out of its foundations and another appeared to
> be snapped off from the poles.
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> (07) 3390 4812
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Subject: aus-wx: GMS satellilte problems
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 19:23:41 +1000
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Most on the list would be aware that the ageing Japanese GMS satellite
reduced operations a few months ago to conserve its life. In a possible hint
at things to come, the satellite failed late last night EST. It was revived,
after several very scratchy receptions, by late this morning. The problem is
with the scanner mechanism, and a build-up of lubricant at the southern end
of its travel. With over a year to wait for the replacement, here's hoping
the Japanese techs manage to nurse it through. Life and weather forecasting
for Australia -- particularly during the cyclone season -- would become a
lot more unpredictable if we had only the polar orbiting satellites
available.

Laurier

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Brilliant detail. Just tried my home town. Excellent stuff. Thanks.
Bussie (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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>
> I have just been looking around the Internet for a good Map Site of
> Australia when I stumbled on this beauty.
>
> www.arta.com.au
>
> If you go to the Town Search and type in the name of your town, it will
> bring up a excellent detailed map of the area plus links on the right hand
> side to more detailed town street maps.
> The best part is that the maps are location wise and geographically
correct.
> Road surfaces from what I have seen are represented to a true standard.
And
> the general Layout and view is excellent.
> Anyway Im sure some of you will love this site during the next couple of
> seasons... know I will !
>
> James H
>
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Subject: aus-wx: Model confusion
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The coming weekend is one that all the models cannot seem to agree on.

They all agree on a cold pool of air over VIC/NSW, but differ widely on
position or whether a cut off low will form. Several models have a cut off
low, but one has it passing over inland SA/NSW, another has it forming off
the north coast. Other models do not even have it at all.

It could be an interesting weekend or a dull one depending on where you
live.

One thing I notice is the massive body of cold air the south of Australia,
not dissimilar to situation Clyve mentioned some time ago. Now if we could
get the weather equivalent of a conveyor belt in action we would be looking
at widespread snowfalls. Winter may be a long way from over yet.

Michael Thompson
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Hi Michael.
In respect to models, I will be helping my oldest son to build a model FA18
this weekend and I will end up with bits everywhere as well, sought of
similar to the outlook weather model predictions. regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Model confusion


> The coming weekend is one that all the models cannot seem to agree on.
>
> They all agree on a cold pool of air over VIC/NSW, but differ widely on
> position or whether a cut off low will form. Several models have a cut off
> low, but one has it passing over inland SA/NSW, another has it forming off
> the north coast. Other models do not even have it at all.
>
> It could be an interesting weekend or a dull one depending on where you
> live.
>
> One thing I notice is the massive body of cold air the south of Australia,
> not dissimilar to situation Clyve mentioned some time ago. Now if we could
> get the weather equivalent of a conveyor belt in action we would be
looking
> at widespread snowfalls. Winter may be a long way from over yet.
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://ozthunder.com
>
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From: "clyve herbert" <mesof5 at iprimus.com.au>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:14:12 +1000
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Hi Greg.
Nice to hear from you are you going on the chase this year,regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane to Melbourne by Road in Two Hours


> Hi All,
>
> Steady on there, Anthony.  I'll have you and all your Northern buddies
know
> we actually saw the sun today (for the first time in about 2 weeks, it
feels)
> and the temp skyrocketed up to about 16 C, DP of 11 C! so there. And no
> Sc to be seen anywhere.
>
> Greg Browning,
> Sunny Melbourne
>
> Anthony Cornelius wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Well - what a Melbourne-like day it was in Toowoomba!  (Hence the
> > subject line), left Brisbane just after 6am and it was hovering around
> > 13-14C for the entire journey with strong-gale force W'ly winds to
> > Toowoomba.  At Withcott it was 13.8C, and then started climbing the
> > range (~400-500m climb, Toowoomba is approximately 650m).  The temp was
> > falling so fast I nearly put my hand underneath the car thermo to catch
> > it!  Normally on windy, cloudy days the temperature difference between
> > Withcott and Toowoomba is at a minimum.  But by the time I got up the
> > top it was 7.2C, cloudy with gale force winds!  Some high based
> > Stratocumulus drizzle showers about, most probably snow/sleet but melted
> > as it fell and evaporated (just like Melbourne).  Wheelie bins were all
> > over the footpaths and roads - it was blistering cold at uni, by far the
> > coldest start (due to wind chill).
> >
> > And to make it feel even more like Melbourne (as if cold, windy and
> > Stratocumulus wasn't enough!)  The DPs were quite "high" - I use this
> > loosely, but in a strong W'ly stream DPs are normally -5/-6 in the
> > Downs.  However, today they hovered around 2-3C, and so did most of SE
> > QLD (some higher), no doubt some moisture wrapping around.  Again - just
> > like Melbourne with DPs in the low single figures instead of negatives!
> >
> > Coming back this afternoon, some advertising signs near Gatton had been
> > damaged - one was pushed out of its foundations and another appeared to
> > be snapped off from the poles.
> > --
> > Anthony Cornelius
> > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> > (07) 3390 4812
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "Paul Yole" <pyole at australia.edu>
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 00:39:19 +1000
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Is that the RAAF version or the US version Clyve? :o)

PaulY

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Hi Michael.
In respect to models, I will be helping my oldest son to
build a model FA18
this weekend and I will end up with bits everywhere as well,
sought of
similar to the outlook weather model predictions. regards
Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Model confusion


> The coming weekend is one that all the models cannot seem
to agree on.
>
> They all agree on a cold pool of air over VIC/NSW, but
differ widely on
> position or whether a cut off low will form. Several
models have a cut off
> low, but one has it passing over inland SA/NSW, another
has it forming off
> the north coast. Other models do not even have it at all.
>
> It could be an interesting weekend or a dull one depending
on where you
> live.
>
> One thing I notice is the massive body of cold air the
south of Australia,
> not dissimilar to situation Clyve mentioned some time ago.
Now if we could
> get the weather equivalent of a conveyor belt in action we
would be
looking
> at widespread snowfalls. Winter may be a long way from
over yet.
>
> Michael Thompson
> http://ozthunder.com
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:20:30 +1000
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Probably a yank version, depending on the kit, but there are decals
available for RAAF, Canadian and Spanish operators.  There is a site
somewhere to order them, saw it once, could find it again if needed.

Depends on what kit brand though, (most include Aussie stuff today,
but years ago they did not) and of course the scale.  1:72 or 1:48
Clive ?  Which kit ?

Also, remember that when you have all the bits left over, they will be
the extra bombs, drop tanks and missiles.  There aren't enough hard
points to put everything on at once !   Might sound obvious, but I was
wondering how old your son is.  You see, a Looooooong time ago, a
certain young chap (who shall remain nameless) decided to glue
"everything" on, anywhere that seemed to "look right".  Parents of the
child in question, took the cruel step of taking a photo of same.  It
occasionally gets "flown".

PeterC

Paul Yole wrote:
> 
> Is that the RAAF version or the US version Clyve? :o)
> 
> PaulY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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> clyve herbert
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 23:12
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Model confusion
> 
> Hi Michael.
> In respect to models, I will be helping my oldest son to
> build a model FA18
> this weekend and I will end up with bits everywhere as well,
> sought of
> similar to the outlook weather model predictions. regards
> Clyve Herbert.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Thompson <michaelt at ozemail.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:59 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Model confusion
> 
> > The coming weekend is one that all the models cannot seem
> to agree on.
> >
> > They all agree on a cold pool of air over VIC/NSW, but
> differ widely on
> > position or whether a cut off low will form. Several
> models have a cut off
> > low, but one has it passing over inland SA/NSW, another
> has it forming off
> > the north coast. Other models do not even have it at all.
> >
> > It could be an interesting weekend or a dull one depending
> on where you
> > live.
> >
> > One thing I notice is the massive body of cold air the
> south of Australia,
> > not dissimilar to situation Clyve mentioned some time ago.
> Now if we could
> > get the weather equivalent of a conveyor belt in action we
> would be
> looking
> > at widespread snowfalls. Winter may be a long way from
> over yet.
> >
> > Michael Thompson
> > http://ozthunder.com
> >
> >
> >
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Hi all

Just 'cause no-ones mentioned it yet, the south Flinders Ranges got some
snow out of the last cold snap that dumped so much over NSW over the next 2
days.  3-4cm in places I believe, certainly Yongola at about 520masl got a
fall, so you'd expect higher areas to have got more.  The cold air seems to
have gone to the west and north of Adelaide unfortunately.

Looks good for some action over the next few days.  Here's hoping.

Phil

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Hi all,

From another list re the GMS-5 satellite...may be of interest.

Cheers,

Sel
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:scottb at SSEC.WISC.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 7:57
> Subject: not a good time to lose a satellite
> 
> 
> Potential bad news: the Japanese GMS-5 satellite didn't come out
> of "eclipse mode" today...the last image was at 15:42 UTC.
> 
> GMS-5 is a old bird (launched in 1995) which has exceeded its
> expected design life (the replacement MTSAT was unfortunately lost
> due to launch vehicle failure in 1999). In July, the image intervals
> were reduced to every 2 hours, and complete full disk scans were
> trimmed in hopes of extending the life of GMS-5 until another
> MTSAT could be launched (in 2003?).
> 
> August and September are big tropical cyclone months in the North
> Pacific basin (Typhoon 16W and Tropical Storm 17W are currently
> active), so storm center fixes will be more difficult (NOAA polar
> orbiters are still helpful in that regard).
> 
> Let's hope it's a short-lived anomaly for GMS-5. If not, it will be
> interesting to see if NOAA will be able to loan one of our GOES to
> be moved westward over the western Pacific. We do have GOES-11
> in "on-orbit storage" right now, and GOES-12 was just launched.
> Then again, our GOES-8 is beyond it's expected life too, so either
> 11 or 12 would have to replace 8 as the eastern GOES.
> 
> --
> Scott Bachmeier     University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS
> mailto:scottb at ssec.wisc.edu    |    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb
> 
> 

Sel Kerans
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:08:32 +1000
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I have to admit, reading Laurier's email yesterday sent a chill down my
spine about the real potential GMS-5 may not make it!  It would throw
weather forecasting into a turmoil, not being able to look at systems on
satpics, tropical cyclone forecasting, storm forecasting etc!  No doubt
the warnings service would be greatly disrupted and there would be a
significant potential for additional loss of life/damage to property if
hourly imagery was no longer provided!

Interesting about GOES - is this a serious possibility about NOAA
loaning a GOES to the western Pacific, or more of a hopeful comment?

AC

Sel Kerans wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> >From another list re the GMS-5 satellite...may be of interest.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Sel
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:scottb at SSEC.WISC.EDU]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 7:57
> > Subject: not a good time to lose a satellite
> >
> >
> > Potential bad news: the Japanese GMS-5 satellite didn't come out
> > of "eclipse mode" today...the last image was at 15:42 UTC.
> >
> > GMS-5 is a old bird (launched in 1995) which has exceeded its
> > expected design life (the replacement MTSAT was unfortunately lost
> > due to launch vehicle failure in 1999). In July, the image intervals
> > were reduced to every 2 hours, and complete full disk scans were
> > trimmed in hopes of extending the life of GMS-5 until another
> > MTSAT could be launched (in 2003?).
> >
> > August and September are big tropical cyclone months in the North
> > Pacific basin (Typhoon 16W and Tropical Storm 17W are currently
> > active), so storm center fixes will be more difficult (NOAA polar
> > orbiters are still helpful in that regard).
> >
> > Let's hope it's a short-lived anomaly for GMS-5. If not, it will be
> > interesting to see if NOAA will be able to loan one of our GOES to
> > be moved westward over the western Pacific. We do have GOES-11
> > in "on-orbit storage" right now, and GOES-12 was just launched.
> > Then again, our GOES-8 is beyond it's expected life too, so either
> > 11 or 12 would have to replace 8 as the eastern GOES.
> >
> > --
> > Scott Bachmeier     University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS
> > mailto:scottb at ssec.wisc.edu    |    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb
> >
> >
> 
> Sel Kerans
> PAA Online Coordinator
> Australia
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:03:53 +1000
From: Matthew Smith <tornado at cnn.net.au>
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The next NSW ASWA meeting will be hold on Saturday September 8
2001.
Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St North Sydney.
Time: 7pm
Parking: Free in the streets around TWC building.
Press the Weather21 buzzer to be let in.

On the agenda :
Reflections of the AGM.
Storm News - info about the next issue.
Discussion about Thunder Down Under.
Information about ID Cards/stickers and other things.
Weather briefing.

There will be no feature presentation this meeting, but with
all the weather since the AGM, I encourage everyone to bring video
and photo's to share that they may have taken in this time! (snow,
storms, etc)
Bring a few dollars for pizza and new commers are most
welcome!

Also on behalf of NSW ASWA, I would like to thank Mark Hardy
and TWC for letting us use the current venue as a place to hold
our meetings this year.

Matthew Smith and Matthew Pearce
NSW ASWA State Reps.

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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:28:47 +1000
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It's happened before -- when the Indian satellite (Indian Ocean area)
failed, the old Meteosat satellite was manoevred into that position and is
now providing the Indoex satpix available hourly at
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/pdus.html

Laurier


> -----Original Message-----
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> Cornelius
> Sent: Thursday, 30 August, 2001 10:09 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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>
>
> I have to admit, reading Laurier's email yesterday sent a chill down my
> spine about the real potential GMS-5 may not make it!  It would throw
> weather forecasting into a turmoil, not being able to look at systems on
> satpics, tropical cyclone forecasting, storm forecasting etc!  No doubt
> the warnings service would be greatly disrupted and there would be a
> significant potential for additional loss of life/damage to property if
> hourly imagery was no longer provided!
>
> Interesting about GOES - is this a serious possibility about NOAA
> loaning a GOES to the western Pacific, or more of a hopeful comment?
>
> AC
>
> Sel Kerans wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > >From another list re the GMS-5 satellite...may be of interest.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sel
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:scottb at SSEC.WISC.EDU]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 7:57
> > > Subject: not a good time to lose a satellite
> > >
> > >
> > > Potential bad news: the Japanese GMS-5 satellite didn't come out
> > > of "eclipse mode" today...the last image was at 15:42 UTC.
> > >
> > > GMS-5 is a old bird (launched in 1995) which has exceeded its
> > > expected design life (the replacement MTSAT was unfortunately lost
> > > due to launch vehicle failure in 1999). In July, the image intervals
> > > were reduced to every 2 hours, and complete full disk scans were
> > > trimmed in hopes of extending the life of GMS-5 until another
> > > MTSAT could be launched (in 2003?).
> > >
> > > August and September are big tropical cyclone months in the North
> > > Pacific basin (Typhoon 16W and Tropical Storm 17W are currently
> > > active), so storm center fixes will be more difficult (NOAA polar
> > > orbiters are still helpful in that regard).
> > >
> > > Let's hope it's a short-lived anomaly for GMS-5. If not, it will be
> > > interesting to see if NOAA will be able to loan one of our GOES to
> > > be moved westward over the western Pacific. We do have GOES-11
> > > in "on-orbit storage" right now, and GOES-12 was just launched.
> > > Then again, our GOES-8 is beyond it's expected life too, so either
> > > 11 or 12 would have to replace 8 as the eastern GOES.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Bachmeier     University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS
> > > mailto:scottb at ssec.wisc.edu    |    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Sel Kerans
> > PAA Online Coordinator
> > Australia
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<x-flowed>
Hi Anthony, Laurier and all,

I actually think that storm chasing this summer (with limited satellite 
imagery) will be a battle to be able to forecast so don't take it lightly. 
Satellite pictures are an essential part of knowing what is out there and 
where trough lines are so one would have to use incredible skills and a few 
calculations from now on to determine this. It should be interesting from 
that point of view.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:08 AM 8/30/01 +1000, you wrote:
>I have to admit, reading Laurier's email yesterday sent a chill down my
>spine about the real potential GMS-5 may not make it!  It would throw
>weather forecasting into a turmoil, not being able to look at systems on
>satpics, tropical cyclone forecasting, storm forecasting etc!  No doubt
>the warnings service would be greatly disrupted and there would be a
>significant potential for additional loss of life/damage to property if
>hourly imagery was no longer provided!
>
>Interesting about GOES - is this a serious possibility about NOAA
>loaning a GOES to the western Pacific, or more of a hopeful comment?
>
>AC
>
>Sel Kerans wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > >From another list re the GMS-5 satellite...may be of interest.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sel
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:scottb at SSEC.WISC.EDU]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 7:57
> > > Subject: not a good time to lose a satellite
> > >
> > >
> > > Potential bad news: the Japanese GMS-5 satellite didn't come out
> > > of "eclipse mode" today...the last image was at 15:42 UTC.
> > >
> > > GMS-5 is a old bird (launched in 1995) which has exceeded its
> > > expected design life (the replacement MTSAT was unfortunately lost
> > > due to launch vehicle failure in 1999). In July, the image intervals
> > > were reduced to every 2 hours, and complete full disk scans were
> > > trimmed in hopes of extending the life of GMS-5 until another
> > > MTSAT could be launched (in 2003?).
> > >
> > > August and September are big tropical cyclone months in the North
> > > Pacific basin (Typhoon 16W and Tropical Storm 17W are currently
> > > active), so storm center fixes will be more difficult (NOAA polar
> > > orbiters are still helpful in that regard).
> > >
> > > Let's hope it's a short-lived anomaly for GMS-5. If not, it will be
> > > interesting to see if NOAA will be able to loan one of our GOES to
> > > be moved westward over the western Pacific. We do have GOES-11
> > > in "on-orbit storage" right now, and GOES-12 was just launched.
> > > Then again, our GOES-8 is beyond it's expected life too, so either
> > > 11 or 12 would have to replace 8 as the eastern GOES.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott Bachmeier     University of Wisconsin - Madison / SSEC / CIMSS
> > > mailto:scottb at ssec.wisc.edu    |    http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottb
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Sel Kerans
> > PAA Online Coordinator
> > Australia
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from
Schofields, Sydney
NSW Australia

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From: "Jane ONeill" <cadence at stormchasers.au.com>
To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: ...and the future holds.....
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:37:43 +1000
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Looking way down to the SW of WA, there is more to this system that I
have seen for a looong time.....
http://www.eng.jcu.edu.au/JCUMetSat/sector-c.gif

...and then I thought I was daydreaming when I discovered the 540 line
over southern parts of WA, but no, here it is on the analysis...
http://grads.iges.org/pix/shemi2.00hr.gif

Meanwhile back in the Bight, a second low appears to be forming at about
40S, there's tropical infeed into both the low in the Bight & the next
system roaring up behind it
https://207.133.112.37/cgi-bin/show.pl?sat+fulldisk+wv+fdwv20012421024.j
pg , there was a 13C temperature difference from one side to the other
side of the baroclinic zone at 850hPa this morning over WA (-2C to the
west to +11C in the east!!!), the 300hPa trough is slowing down &
starting to tilt towards "positive longitudinal" (think about it)...and
it's Friday tomorrow - interesting weather on the way methinks!!  Could
we have some colder air at 300hPa (please)???

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com

Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

ASWA - Victoria
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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:26:12 +0930
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<x-flowed>
Hi....

Here the paste of Severe wind warning.

IDW28100
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE

PRIORITY
FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE WIND WARNING
Issued at 9:25 pm WST on Thursday, 30 August 2001

For the Eucla District east of Caiguna.

A low centred just south of Eucla Town is expected to move slowly 
eastwards and
intensify overnight.

Damaging wind gusts  to 110 kilometres per hour are possible overnight and
Friday morning in the  Eucla District east of Caiguna.  

The State Emergency Service advises that people should secure loose 
objects and
stay indoors when gales develop. Boat owners should ensure that small 
craft are
securely moored.

The next advice will be issued at 1:00 am.

 From Nathan.

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From: "Lyle Pakula" <lyle at atmos.colostate.edu>
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Hi Anthony,

There was some mention about that here. I hadn't heard that GOES was going
to be moved over but that a european one (MeteoSat? Can't remember) was
maybe on the cards. I guess the concern was that it probbaly wouldn't have
enough fuel to get over??

Cheers, Lyle

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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: FW: not a good time to lose a satellite


> I have to admit, reading Laurier's email yesterday sent a chill down my
> spine about the real potential GMS-5 may not make it!  It would throw
> weather forecasting into a turmoil, not being able to look at systems on
> satpics, tropical cyclone forecasting, storm forecasting etc!  No doubt
> the warnings service would be greatly disrupted and there would be a
> significant potential for additional loss of life/damage to property if
> hourly imagery was no longer provided!
>
> Interesting about GOES - is this a serious possibility about NOAA
> loaning a GOES to the western Pacific, or more of a hopeful comment?
>
> AC
>
> Sel Kerans wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > >From another list re the GMS-5 satellite...may be of interest.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sel
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Bachmeier [mailto:scottb at SSEC.WISC.EDU]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2001 7:57
> > > Subject: not a good time to lose a satellite
> > >
> > >
> > > Potential bad news: the Japanese GMS-5 satellite didn't come out
> > > of "eclipse mode" today...the last image was at 15:42 UTC.
> > >
> > > GMS-5 is a old bird (launched in 1995) which has exceeded its
> > > expected design life (the replacement MTSAT was unfortunately lost
> > > due to launch vehicle failure in 1999). In July, the image intervals
> > > were reduced to every 2 hours, and complete full disk scans were
> > > trimmed in hopes of extending the life of GMS-5 until another
> > > MTSAT could be launched (in 2003?).
> > >
> > > August and September are big tropical cyclone months in the North
> > > Pacific basin (Typhoon 16W and Tropical Storm 17W are currently
> > > active), so storm center fixes will be more difficult (NOAA polar
> > > orbiters are still helpful in that regard).
> > >
> > > Let's hope it's a short-lived anomaly for GMS-5. If not, it will be
> > > interesting to see if NOAA will be able to loan one of our GOES to
> > > be moved westward over the western Pacific. We do have GOES-11
> > > in "on-orbit storage" right now, and GOES-12 was just launched.
> > > Then again, our GOES-8 is beyond it's expected life too, so either
> > > 11 or 12 would have to replace 8 as the eastern GOES.
> > >
> > > --
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Hi all

Nice looking action on the broadscale radar in the Woomera - Pt Augusta
area at present.  Not much action on the lightning tracker however....

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Morning all,

A breathtaking image of the low moving across SA atm.....

http://www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/SA29933.gif

Worth a look!!

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Hi all,

Can anyone suggest to me why the BoM is forecasting possible snowfalls
for the NSW tablelandes on Saturday and Sunday? On both days (esp
Saturday) the 850Ts are no lower than 2 and the 540 thickness is nowhere
to be seen. I'm a little confused.

On a brighter note, something that has remain unmentioned during the
week is that this time last week the BoM were forecasting possible sleet
for the Illawarra high ground for Sunday/Monday and look what happened!
It's nice to see a slightly radical forecast come off for once, and
exceed expectations!

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The low is really causing some good spin-up now.  The rain over Woomera and 
Pt Augusta area looks quite good obviously some good moisture is flowing 
into this system.  Low is forecast to be right on Adelaide's doorstep 
tomorrow morning with hpa below 995!  Hopefully this won't result in clear 
skies if the centre gets too close to Adelaide.  Winds coming in from the NE 
near the low centre in the morning could produce a thunderstorm or two if 
moisture levels become high enough.  Should be an interesting afternoon and 
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Hey people

Currently some nice "turkeys" puffing up around here pitty I'm at work, I'd 
say there is a very good chance of perhaps a real thunderstorm, 1st for the 
2001/02 summer period or at lest a Cj shower.

The weekend is looking good also.

Have A good weekend, I'll be in colac, and Go Tiges!

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Hi Gang,

One of the more potent extratropical cyclones is slowly tracking E.
It is currently centred just S of C SA.  Its surface pressure signature 
is one of the best I've seen over the last few months, with a core 
pressure of less than 996 hPa (N of 35 S), and widespread pressure falls 
throughout all of E AUS.  

This morning's MML sounding showed that only a minimal amount of incoming
solar radiation would create a well-mixed layer from the ground up to
about 700 hPa (~ 3 km AGL).  The convective temperature has been reached by 
now, and a moist 800-700 hPa layer is providing most of the juice 
for the high-based convection that has started over parts of S VIC.  With the 
synoptic lift ahead of the low I would expect the sounding to cool
further aloft, which would open the gates for deeper convection.
Enough for thunder?  Maybe,  the primary limiting factor is poor
low-level moisture in Melbourne.  If a stout NEly continues to blow
into NSW/QLD we might see better convection there as the low moves 
further E.

Back from hybernation, and watching...

Harald

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HI all..

Noticed the pressure dropped from 1013 to 1010 in last 3 hrs.Dubbo is 1009.
Cloud cover increasing also, all over Bathurst.

Just looking throught AWS for stations out west, Broken Hill, Bourke,
Wilcannia.. pressure drops down to 1003 since 10am from 1008.

Any thoughts on this..

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Hi Harold,

Welcome back and interesting to see your post when a system is coming 
across. There is a good possibility of a reasonable outbreak tomorrow if 
the models (avn) holds off.

There is good forecast directional and speed wind shear forecast in the 
region north of Sydney at this stage. Checked the moisture profile - it is 
also good. So I think at this stage, I am chasing.

Jimmy Deguara

At 02:08 PM 8/31/01 +1000, you wrote:

>Hi Gang,
>
>One of the more potent extratropical cyclones is slowly tracking E.
>It is currently centred just S of C SA.  Its surface pressure signature
>is one of the best I've seen over the last few months, with a core
>pressure of less than 996 hPa (N of 35 S), and widespread pressure falls
>throughout all of E AUS.
>
>This morning's MML sounding showed that only a minimal amount of incoming
>solar radiation would create a well-mixed layer from the ground up to
>about 700 hPa (~ 3 km AGL).  The convective temperature has been reached by
>now, and a moist 800-700 hPa layer is providing most of the juice
>for the high-based convection that has started over parts of S VIC.  With the
>synoptic lift ahead of the low I would expect the sounding to cool
>further aloft, which would open the gates for deeper convection.
>Enough for thunder?  Maybe,  the primary limiting factor is poor
>low-level moisture in Melbourne.  If a stout NEly continues to blow
>into NSW/QLD we might see better convection there as the low moves
>further E.
>
>Back from hybernation, and watching...
>
>Harald
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Nice to have you back on board Harald !!!
Tomorrow as the winds swing more NE throughout east NSW, sfc dp's should rise and
we may get some good convection ahead of the change, hopefully a nice prefrontal
trough will form ahead of it.
Storms forming in SE QLD atm, great images here at the moment.
http://www.bsch.au.com/webcams/index.html !!!!

Matt Smith
Co - NSW ASWA state rep
www.sydneystormchasers.com

Harald Richter wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> One of the more potent extratropical cyclones is slowly tracking E.
> It is currently centred just S of C SA.  Its surface pressure signature
> is one of the best I've seen over the last few months, with a core
> pressure of less than 996 hPa (N of 35 S), and widespread pressure falls
> throughout all of E AUS.
>
> This morning's MML sounding showed that only a minimal amount of incoming
> solar radiation would create a well-mixed layer from the ground up to
> about 700 hPa (~ 3 km AGL).  The convective temperature has been reached by
> now, and a moist 800-700 hPa layer is providing most of the juice
> for the high-based convection that has started over parts of S VIC.  With the
> synoptic lift ahead of the low I would expect the sounding to cool
> further aloft, which would open the gates for deeper convection.
> Enough for thunder?  Maybe,  the primary limiting factor is poor
> low-level moisture in Melbourne.  If a stout NEly continues to blow
> into NSW/QLD we might see better convection there as the low moves
> further E.
>
> Back from hybernation, and watching...
>
> Harald
>
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> Australia
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Hi everyone,
                  We have had reports of small hail from developing storms
in SE QLD this afternoon.
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2>I am hoping to give a presentation at 
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comparative rainfall at different sites. The actual detail is still some way off 
being finalised but some thoughts I have at present are extreme daily and 
monthly rain events, with reference to El Nino and, if I can get hold of some 
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Hi Andrew,

If you look at the avn models in the early morning 7am and 10am, you will 
see why  some reasonable snow can be expected particularly on the higher peaks.

Jimmy Deguara

At 11:13 AM 8/31/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Can anyone suggest to me why the BoM is forecasting possible snowfalls
>for the NSW tablelandes on Saturday and Sunday? On both days (esp
>Saturday) the 850Ts are no lower than 2 and the 540 thickness is nowhere
>to be seen. I'm a little confused.
>
>On a brighter note, something that has remain unmentioned during the
>week is that this time last week the BoM were forecasting possible sleet
>for the Illawarra high ground for Sunday/Monday and look what happened!
>It's nice to see a slightly radical forecast come off for once, and
>exceed expectations!
>
>Andrew.
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Sorry I mean early morning 7am and 10am  Sunday morning.

Jimmy Deguara

At 04:27 PM 8/31/01 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Andrew,
>
>If you look at the avn models in the early morning 7am and 10am, you will 
>see why  some reasonable snow can be expected particularly on the higher peaks.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 11:13 AM 8/31/01 +1000, you wrote:
>>Hi all,
>>
>>Can anyone suggest to me why the BoM is forecasting possible snowfalls
>>for the NSW tablelandes on Saturday and Sunday? On both days (esp
>>Saturday) the 850Ts are no lower than 2 and the 540 thickness is nowhere
>>to be seen. I'm a little confused.
>>
>>On a brighter note, something that has remain unmentioned during the
>>week is that this time last week the BoM were forecasting possible sleet
>>for the Illawarra high ground for Sunday/Monday and look what happened!
>>It's nice to see a slightly radical forecast come off for once, and
>>exceed expectations!
>>
>>Andrew.
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evenin all,
we had one small storm that passed over the northern end of the gold coast.
they got rain, but all we got was sunshine. the storm had plenty of thunder
when it was around mt tambourine b4 it continued east. i got these images
at around 4 ish as it was just off southport. at this stage i believe it
had a pink or red spot on radar. it reminded me a lot like nov 7 99
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083101.jpg
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083102.jpg

then this sunset picture
http://www.virtualchaser.com/steve/pictures/01083103.jpg

thanx to john woodbridge for his images from the other side of the storm
from south western brisbane area. i've lost the links. hopefully someone
else kept them. they were quite good.
storms forecast here tomorrow and again on sunday b4 clearing in teh
afternoon. see live images at http://www.bsch.au.com/webcams/index.html
cyas tomorrow





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> ...and then I thought I was daydreaming when I discovered the 540 line
> over southern parts of WA, but no, here it is on the analysis...

I noticed that on yesterday's obs at one time it was 3 C and raining at a
place called Dwellingup, not far to the southeast of Perth. (I  think the
highest hills in that area only reach about 500 metres, and any town would
probably be at least a few 100m lower).

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Late this  afternoon some congestus glaciated into a shower with a very weak
anvil SW of Wollongong, in the region of Kangaroo Valley. I doubt it
produced any thunder, but it did produce rain.

It was not connected to the Cu that was 50 km offshore. It may give some
hint at tomorrows chances.

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Hi Michael,

It was interesting watching the clouds today. It had the feel of the early
calm before the real action starts. Hopefully all heralds well for tomorrow
when I won't actually be racing or out on a long run. So the camera will be
close by ready to go. In the afternoon I will likely be down at Coolangatta,
with no view from west through to north so if something is developing would
appreciate a heads-up on 0418 671 851. Hopefully we'll get something akin to
last Sunday only better.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman
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> Late this  afternoon some congestus glaciated into a shower with a very
weak
> anvil SW of Wollongong, in the region of Kangaroo Valley. I doubt it
> produced any thunder, but it did produce rain.
>
> It was not connected to the Cu that was 50 km offshore. It may give some
> hint at tomorrows chances.
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> Michael Thompson
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hi all,
i've just added some photos of snow in the Strzelecki ranges in S-SW 
Gippsland last week.I missed the best of the snow (thanks work and floods  
:P)
anyway enjoy the pics..

http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SRS01.htm

regards tm
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Great pics as always. I note that you compose your photos well. For example
if there is a road, it does not distract for the scene, but rather leads
your eye towards the area of interest. Same with the use of the fence line.

Michael

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> hi all,
> i've just added some photos of snow in the Strzelecki ranges in S-SW
> Gippsland last week.I missed the best of the snow (thanks work and floods
> :P)
> anyway enjoy the pics..
>
> http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SRS01.htm
>
> regards tm
> Anvil Industries
> http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils
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Les,

Was over at Hamilton today and the sky looked very interesting in the
arvo. Were quite a few 'turkeys' around and a couple did produce a few
light showers. Even took some photos which I might get online some
day.

Tim Eckert
Adelaide


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>Hey people
>
>Currently some nice "turkeys" puffing up around here pitty I'm at
work, I'd 
>say there is a very good chance of perhaps a real thunderstorm, 1st
for the 
>2001/02 summer period or at lest a Cj shower.
>
>The weekend is looking good also.
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>Have A good weekend, I'll be in colac, and Go Tiges!
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From: "Tim Grugeon" <timg at cnn.net.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have got some of my snow photos up and going on 
the web that I took earlier in the week&nbsp;on the Barrington Tops. They can be 
found at <A 
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Wow! Those are some of the best photos of snow I have seen.  Well done.  
I used to frequent the Strzeleckis years ago, but I have never seen them 
looking so beautiful.
Thanks for sharing them with us.  Especially since my perspiration is 
dripping on the keyboard at 90%RH and 29C at 22:30 at night!

Phil
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Phone: Hong Kong 2646 4672



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> hi all,
> i've just added some photos of snow in the Strzelecki ranges in S-SW 
> Gippsland last week.I missed the best of the snow (thanks work and
> floods  
> :P)
> anyway enjoy the pics..
> 
> http://bigmax.yi.org/users/anvils/SRS01.htm
> 
> regards tm
> Anvil Industries
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