http://australiasevereweather.com/ Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:11:27 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day all, In the Newcastle Herald this morning there is an article about the storms that hit around the Cessnock area yesterday afternoon (30th). There were a few buildings that had there roofs partly torn off and they are describing it as a 'willy willy' as this is what some witnesses saw. To me it sounds like a tornado and just another typical poor report by the media on the subject. Have you heard anything of this Carolyn? Cheers, -- Tim Grugeon Maitland, NSW http://www.hunterweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:17:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tim and All, Haven't heard a word about damage in the town. Just beend own town and didn't even hear it as gossip. there was more noise than anything last night and yesterday afternoon. But it did pour about 5pm yesterday. I know it was sounding impressive about 11.30pm, but couldn't make out much then. :-) Other than that it is a beautiful day today, no sign of the storm. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grugeon" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 11:11 AM Subject: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? > G'day all, > > In the Newcastle Herald this morning there is an article about the > storms that hit around the Cessnock area yesterday afternoon (30th). > There were a few buildings that had there roofs partly torn off and they > are describing it as a 'willy willy' as this is what some witnesses saw. > To me it sounds like a tornado and just another typical poor report by > the media on the subject. > Have you heard anything of this Carolyn? > > Cheers, > > -- > Tim Grugeon > Maitland, NSW > http://www.hunterweather.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:31:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:59:52 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2001 07:01:14.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7403480:01C17A35] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanx steve looks impessive
How ever it looks like your cam has not updated since 5:02pm
 
----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms

afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:18:07 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Webcams have updated fine..   dont't forget the 1 hr difference between the Gold Coast cam and the NSW cam..  
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms

thanx steve looks impessive
How ever it looks like your cam has not updated since 5:02pm
 
----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms

afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "Steve Baynham" To: Subject: aus-wx: MOVIE: storm movie Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 17:29:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hey simon,
yeah when the anvil broke off the sun appeared again. i don't want to subject the very expensive to camera to direct sunlight. not good. should be able to get it out agin a bit later. in the meantime, i made this movie of it before it disappated.
enjoy
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms

thanx steve looks impessive
How ever it looks like your cam has not updated since 5:02pm
 
----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms

afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:38:26 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2001 07:39:05.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[40EA2370:01C17A3B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
forgot about that, DUH
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms

Webcams have updated fine..   dont't forget the 1 hr difference between the Gold Coast cam and the NSW cam..  
 
Dave
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms

thanx steve looks impessive
How ever it looks like your cam has not updated since 5:02pm
 
----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms

afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: MOVIE: storm movie Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:48:35 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2001 07:49:24.0169 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1BD6390:01C17A3C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanx
great little movie there steve
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 6:29 PM
Subject: aus-wx: MOVIE: storm movie

hey simon,
yeah when the anvil broke off the sun appeared again. i don't want to subject the very expensive to camera to direct sunlight. not good. should be able to get it out agin a bit later. in the meantime, i made this movie of it before it disappated.
enjoy
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: webcams/storms

thanx steve looks impessive
How ever it looks like your cam has not updated since 5:02pm
 
----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: webcams/storms

afternoon everybody,
is the site to be at this arve, both mine and michael bath's webcams with storms in view. no time to talk:)
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 21:30:50 +1300 From: Gregg Ward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: Very Heavy Shower in Palmerston North Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just had second thunderstorm today between 7:00 - 7:30pm, with 20.5mm recorded in my rain gauge for just under 10 minutes. Whole back section of property under water. Plenty of CC lightning but no CG. Over the last three days a warm moist N/NE airstream has become established over the North Island of New Zealand. Both today and yesterday Palmerston North has had maximum temperatures between 26 - 28C, with humidity between 65 - 80%. The thunderstorm that occurred tonight was the second thunderstorm in the Manawatu area today, with the earlier thunderstorm moving south of Palmerston North, but allowing a brilliant view of the associated groups of Cbs. Also had a thunderstorm yesterday evening, around 5:30pm with plenty of thunder heard but only 3mm of rain from it. Regards -- Gregg Ward Palmerston North New Zealand Telephone: +64-6-354 2082 E-mail: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz ICQ: 114869387 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nick Sykes" To: Subject: aus-wx: Chase -SA/Vic border Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 06:55:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey all Well the Adelaide action is just too tempting and with AVN forecasting an area of -4 to -6 LI's out near the SA/Vic border for this afternoon I have decided to chase. I will be heading out shortly, targeting the dimboola area, will see where I head from there. Updates much appreciated. Nick Sykes +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: What an incredible lightning activity this morning at the start of summer season! Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 07:07:17 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Oh what an absolutely fantastic lightning activity I have seen this morning after 4am. Load of lightning. Hrm interesting to hear from Cyclone Chris about hail and lightning hit Golden Grove Shopping centre. (Thru weather forum on weatherzone) I took 183 photos and managed to get few good lightning image though with digital camera that I was using the setting of shutter speed. What a great start for the summer season. We may get more during the day. Bring it on!!!
From Nathan.
P.S. We had a very heavy rain and strong gusty wind last short period at home in Golden Grove. Had another shower came thru with thunderstorm as well after the first one.
X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:54:58 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: What an incredible lightning activity this morning at the start of summer season! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Hi all, Oh what an absolutely fantastic lightning activity I have >seen this morning after 4am. Load of lightning. Hrm interesting to hear >from Cyclone Chris about hail and lightning hit Golden Grove Shopping >centre. (Thru weather forum on weatherzone) I took 183 photos and managed >to get few good lightning image though with digital camera that I was >using the setting of shutter speed. What a great start for the summer >season. We may get more during the day. Bring it on!!! >From Nathan. >P.S. We had a very heavy rain and strong gusty wind last short period at >home in Golden Grove. Had another shower came thru with thunderstorm as >well after the first one. Hey Nathan Once again the northern suburbs win again! At St Peters the lightning activity was obvious, but except for one or two great CGs right at the end, was distant and hidden in cloud. Looking forward to seeing the shots somewhere...... Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 08:52:14 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Some suprisingly lightning active fastmoving storms in Adelaide overnight, although they were unremarkable in other respects except perhaps for the strong winds that accompanied them. Not much rain. At least it broke our spring storm drought. Further development this afternoon will see me chasing.......... Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:51:17 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Adelaide radar MIA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone know what's going on? Sellick's Hill hit by lightning? Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: What an incredible lightning activity this morning at the start of summer season! Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 09:49:06 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi everyone,
 
Lightning pic is up.
 
 
Hope you enjoy looking at these images.
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 7:07 AM
Subject: aus-wx: What an incredible lightning activity this morning at the start of summer season!

Hi all,
 
Oh what an absolutely fantastic lightning activity I have seen this morning after 4am. Load of lightning. Hrm interesting to hear from Cyclone Chris about hail and lightning hit Golden Grove Shopping centre. (Thru weather forum on weatherzone) I took 183 photos and managed to get few good lightning image though with digital camera that I was using the setting of shutter speed. What a great start for the summer season. We may get more during the day. Bring it on!!!
From Nathan.
P.S. We had a very heavy rain and strong gusty wind last short period at home in Golden Grove. Had another shower came thru with thunderstorm as well after the first one.
X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 13:10:03 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: Warm Night in Christchurch New Zealand Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Over the last three days a warm moist N/NE airstream has become established over the North >Island of New Zealand. Both today and yesterday Palmerston North has had maximum >temperatures between 26 - 28C, with humidity between 65 - 80%. We had a warm night in Christchurch overnight last night with the overnight low only dipping to 19c here. No thunder activity yet, well wev'e had nothing all year, but this moist humid N/Ne airflow over NZ may be the best hope for us yet? C'mon Auckland and the North Island, how about giving us some interesting thunderstorms for a change ! JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane-wx Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:38:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Warm & Sticky in Brisbane, at 30/22 with a LI -6.5 and unbelievable CAPE you would think something would happen, but not a blip on radar. There is this little cap... 35.5C Max at Mt Crosby yesterday. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:19:33 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: VIRUS W32/BadTrans at MM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Okay, if anyone has any solutions to the virus please email me (if i you >can) as i have a few problems trying to delete it at the moment. And i'm >sorry clyve, i think i gave you the virus and now it seems you may have >given it back to me. Sorry for the inconvenience as i didn't even open the >attachment, but still gave it > >Sorry > >Adam Below is some info you may find helpful. Carl. Also known as W32.Badtrans.B at mm and W32.Badtrans at MM, Win32.Badtrans.29020 is a worm spreading via e-mail. The worm replies to all unread messages and attaches itself using a name constructed from three parts. The first part is one of the following strings: fun Humor docs info Sorry_about_yesterday Me_nude Card SETUP stuff YOU_are_FAT! HAMSTER news_doc New_Napster_Site README images Pics The second part is chosen from the following list: MP3 ZIP DOC The virus adds another extension to the attachment and selects it from two possible types: pif scr When a user opens the attachment, the worm copies itself to the Windows System directory as: Kernel32.exe and modifies the registry in order to execute it at the next reboot: HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\RunOnce\Kernel32 = kernel32.exe Additionally, Win32.Badtrans.29020 worm drops a 5632-byte file KDLL.DLL in the Windows System directory. Detection for this worm has been added to Computer Associates antivirus solutions. Install the latest relevant update to ensure protection. For more information, please visit our Virus Encyclopedia. Similar to other worms that have recently been spreading in the wild (such as Nimda and Aliz), Badtrans.29020 also exploits a known security exploit in Internet Explorer. When a user views an HTML e-mail carrying the worm, Internet Explorer may launch the attached program executing the Badtrans.29020 code. This is due to the "Incorrect MIME Header" vulnerability in Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01 and 5.5. For a detailed description of this security hole and links to the appropriate patches, please visit: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS01 -020.asp ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Brisbane-wx Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 14:10:37 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very monsoony here today, with 25mm being received just now in 10mins. Nice guster, rotation observed, cg's and thunder. Lovely! Paul in Darwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:08 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Brisbane-wx > Hi All, > > Warm & Sticky in Brisbane, at 30/22 with a LI -6.5 and unbelievable CAPE you > would think something would happen, but not a blip on radar. There is this > little cap... 35.5C Max at Mt Crosby yesterday. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: danno at space.com Date: 2 Dec 2001 11:20:44 -0800 X-Sent: 2 Dec 2001 19:20:44 GMT To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.3.5 X-Sent-From: danno at space.com Subject: aus-wx: Approaching Thunderstorm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Small thunderstorm approaching from the NW. Lightning impressive. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________ Join the Space Program: Get FREE E-mail at http://www.space.com. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie weather (new)'" Subject: aus-wx: Bring it on, NSW 3/12 Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 07:53:49 +1100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <75F9F329329FD311820000805F15FA9604CC14DB at itwol-msg01.itwol.bhp.com.au> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, Well, what a day of anticipation this is for us all in NSW. Watching the constant strikes on the TWC lightning tracker as they came across from western SA, through SA then into Vic and heading straight towards Melb last time I checked yesterday pm. The morning has started with an overnight low of 21.6 at North Wollongong, with the temp up to 22.6 at 5:30am when I left to run to work. Let me tell you, by how much sweat I lost in the one hour run, it feels like it would be somewhere close to 18-19 DewPoint atm. Unfortunately the high level cloud seems to have thickened up a little since I left home this morning, but hopefully this will burn away soon and let some serious heating get underway. If I could make a request though, as always I am fairly blind to what is going on as I don't have any net access at work, so could anyone who is monitoring what is going on send me an email if there is some storm activity approaching the Illawarra area. I will be taking every opportunity to cast my eyes skyward today and will hopefully spot it when things start to get interesting, but any updates will be greatly appreciated. Me thinks the works ute will be borrowed today if something really worthwhile pops up. Please send to me work address above, or call me on (02) 4275 6494. Good luck everyone, and hopefully the TDU crew have themselves in position for some monstrous LP supercells that will spawn the stuff dreams are made of. Looking forward to hearing of good news during the day. Cheers Andrew Godsman Safety Coordinator CRM Service Centre Ph: (02) 4275 6494 EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\aus-wx Bring it on, NSW 312" From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:16:13 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI . I wld certainly agree with storm producing heat. some nice darker clouds appearing here in bx now, heading east.. Its now 32 deg.. was 34.. so cooling down quick.,. Some real hot winds here, was only 18 deg overnight in Bathurst. Some lightning appearing now SW of Cobar. Dave Bathurst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie weather (new)'" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > Hi again everyone, > > Well congrats to the guys such as Matt Pierce and others who on the weather forum predicted a clearing of the cloud at 11am this morning. For a while there it wasn't looking too good, but just before 11am, boom, clear skies and good old fashioned, thunderstorm producing heat. As at 11:30 there is some good looking cumulous cloud hanging about west of the Illawarra escarpment which is showing good signs for later today. There is a reasonably strong (maybe 20kph) NE which feels loaded with moisture to add to the soup of available moisture already here. Today has a good feel about it, and if I was a betting man I'd say that we'll see something decent develop down around Moss Vale area which will ride up on the boundary of the sea breeze, (being lifted by the escarpment), just west of the escarpment and then put on a show for the SE and E suburbs of Sydney. Probably will start kicking off around 1:30 (now I'm just being a smart-a--e) and reach Sydney 4ish. I've got two digi camera! > ! > s ready to roll and my 35mm at home, bring it ON!! > > Cheers > Andrew Godsman > > EOM > > NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. 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If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie weather (new)'" Subject: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:58:36 +1100 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <75F9F329329FD311820000805F15FA9604CC14E4 at itwol-msg01.itwol.bhp.com.au> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi again everyone, Well congrats to the guys such as Matt Pierce and others who on the weather forum predicted a clearing of the cloud at 11am this morning. For a while there it wasn't looking too good, but just before 11am, boom, clear skies and good old fashioned, thunderstorm producing heat. As at 11:30 there is some good looking cumulous cloud hanging about west of the Illawarra escarpment which is showing good signs for later today. There is a reasonably strong (maybe 20kph) NE which feels loaded with moisture to add to the soup of available moisture already here. Today has a good feel about it, and if I was a betting man I'd say that we'll see something decent develop down around Moss Vale area which will ride up on the boundary of the sea breeze, (being lifted by the escarpment), just west of the escarpment and then put on a show for the SE and E suburbs of Sydney. Probably will start kicking off around 1:30 (now I'm just being a smart-a--e) and reach Sydney 4ish. I've got two digi camera! ! s ready to roll and my 35mm at home, bring it ON!! Cheers Andrew Godsman EOM NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any dissemination, copying or use of this message or attachment is strictly forbidden, as is the disclosure of the information therein. If you have received this message in error please notify the sender immediately and delete the message. Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\aus-wx Wollongong at 1130 EDST" From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 12:32:21 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2001 01:36:24.0838 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB71FA60:01C17B9A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dave, et all. Some lighning near orange on CE lighning tracker. also checkout this thread on Weatherzone' Forum about activity in canberra today. http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000 057 ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carroll" To: Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > HI . > > I wld certainly agree with storm producing heat. some nice darker clouds > appearing here in bx now, heading east.. Its now 32 deg.. was 34.. so > cooling down quick.,. Some real hot winds here, was only 18 deg overnight in > Bathurst. Some lightning appearing now SW of Cobar. > > Dave > Bathurst > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" > To: "'aussie weather (new)'" > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:58 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > > > > Hi again everyone, > > > > Well congrats to the guys such as Matt Pierce and others who on the > weather forum predicted a clearing of the cloud at 11am this morning. For a > while there it wasn't looking too good, but just before 11am, boom, clear > skies and good old fashioned, thunderstorm producing heat. As at 11:30 there > is some good looking cumulous cloud hanging about west of the Illawarra > escarpment which is showing good signs for later today. There is a > reasonably strong (maybe 20kph) NE which feels loaded with moisture to add > to the soup of available moisture already here. Today has a good feel about > it, and if I was a betting man I'd say that we'll see something decent > develop down around Moss Vale area which will ride up on the boundary of the > sea breeze, (being lifted by the escarpment), just west of the escarpment > and then put on a show for the SE and E suburbs of Sydney. Probably will > start kicking off around 1:30 (now I'm just being a smart-a--e) and reach > Sydney 4ish. I've got two digi camera! > > ! > > s ready to roll and my 35mm at home, bring it ON!! > > > > Cheers > > Andrew Godsman > > > > EOM > > > > NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information that > is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by > the intended recipient. 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Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > Dave, et all. > Some lighning near orange on CE lighning tracker. > > also checkout this thread on Weatherzone' Forum about activity in canberra > today. > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000 > 057 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carroll" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > > > > HI . > > > > I wld certainly agree with storm producing heat. some nice darker clouds > > appearing here in bx now, heading east.. Its now 32 deg.. was 34.. so > > cooling down quick.,. Some real hot winds here, was only 18 deg overnight > in > > Bathurst. Some lightning appearing now SW of Cobar. > > > > Dave > > Bathurst > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" > > To: "'aussie weather (new)'" > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:58 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST > > > > > > > Hi again everyone, > > > > > > Well congrats to the guys such as Matt Pierce and others who on the > > weather forum predicted a clearing of the cloud at 11am this morning. For > a > > while there it wasn't looking too good, but just before 11am, boom, clear > > skies and good old fashioned, thunderstorm producing heat. As at 11:30 > there > > is some good looking cumulous cloud hanging about west of the Illawarra > > escarpment which is showing good signs for later today. There is a > > reasonably strong (maybe 20kph) NE which feels loaded with moisture to add > > to the soup of available moisture already here. Today has a good feel > about > > it, and if I was a betting man I'd say that we'll see something decent > > develop down around Moss Vale area which will ride up on the boundary of > the > > sea breeze, (being lifted by the escarpment), just west of the escarpment > > and then put on a show for the SE and E suburbs of Sydney. Probably will > > start kicking off around 1:30 (now I'm just being a smart-a--e) and reach > > Sydney 4ish. I've got two digi camera! > > > ! > > > s ready to roll and my 35mm at home, bring it ON!! > > > > > > Cheers > > > Andrew Godsman > > > > > > EOM > > > > > > NOTICE - This message and any attached files may contain information > that > > is confidential and/or subject of legal privilege intended only for use by > > the intended recipient. 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A line of storms is currently located Bowral to Katoomba and is forecast to move towards the east reaching the coastal areas between Wollongong and the Central Coast within the next hour. Damaging winds, very heavy rainfall and large hail are possible. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: * take extreme care when driving * beware of fallen trees and power lines * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for emergency assistance. 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IDN25900
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SYDNEY SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE  Issued at 1258 on Monday the 3rd of
December 2001
The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm
Warning for the Sydney Metropolitan area and the following Local Government
Areas:

Wingecarribee,
Wollondilly,
Blue Mountains,
Wollongong,
Hawkesbury
This warning is valid until 2pm.
A line of storms is currently located Bowral to Katoomba and is forecast to
move towards the east reaching the coastal areas between Wollongong and the
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Damaging winds, very heavy rainfall and large hail are possible.
From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:12:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST

Hi guys and gals,

It has begun down here. A nice little cell about to cross the escarpment, with the main area of lightning activity due west of about Wollongong CBD. Can't quite make out what the storm is doing, but I'm guessing the main centre of activity is sliding NNE, but with remains drifting E'ly. A nice looker as it has formed up, a thick mammatus anvil underside which has spread out quite fast to the East and North. It's gonna be a big afternoon.

Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Angell [mailto:seangell at iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 3 December 2001 12:32 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST


Dave, et all.
Some lighning near orange on CE lighning tracker.

also checkout this thread on Weatherzone' Forum about activity in canberra
today.
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000
057
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Carroll" <davidkc at hotkey.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST


> HI .
>
> I wld certainly agree with storm producing heat. some nice darker clouds
> appearing here in bx now, heading east.. Its now 32 deg.. was 34.. so
> cooling down quick.,. Some real hot winds here, was only 18 deg overnight
in
> Bathurst. Some lightning appearing now SW of Cobar.
>
> Dave
> Bathurst
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" <Andrew.G.Godsman at bhpbilliton.com>
> To: "'aussie weather (new)'" <aussie-weather at theworld.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:58 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Wollongong at 11:30 EDST
>
>
> > Hi again everyone,
> >
> > Well congrats to the guys such as Matt Pierce and others who on the
> weather forum predicted a clearing of the cloud at 11am this morning. For
a
> while there it wasn't looking too good, but just before 11am, boom, clear
> skies and good old fashioned, thunderstorm producing heat. As at 11:30
there
> is some good looking cumulous cloud hanging about west of the Illawarra
> escarpment which is showing good signs for later today. There is a
> reasonably strong (maybe 20kph) NE which feels loaded with moisture to add
> to the soup of available moisture already here. Today has a good feel
about
> it, and if I was a betting man I'd say that we'll see something decent
> develop down around Moss Vale area which will ride up on the boundary of
the
> sea breeze, (being lifted by the escarpment), just west of the escarpment
> and then put on a show for the SE and E suburbs of Sydney. Probably will
> start kicking off around 1:30 (now I'm just being a smart-a--e) and reach
> Sydney 4ish. I've got two digi camera!
> > !
> > s ready to roll and my 35mm at home, bring it ON!!
> >
> > Cheers
> > Andrew Godsman
> >
> > EOM
> >
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From: "Paul Mirtschin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Syd STA Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:17:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1313 on Monday the 3rd of December 2001 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Central Tablelands, Hunter, Sydney Metropolitan Area Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon. Some of these are expected to be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. -------------------------------------- Paul Mirtschin - Ph 0414 658 174 Designer - Writer paul at nothingdesign.com.au www.nothingdesign.com.au No Mr. Gore, I invented the internet +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: STA-NSW Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:17:45 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2001 02:17:59.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[BA7A8520:01C17BA0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com the bom have put this advice out. IDN28300 TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1313 on Monday the 3rd of December 2001 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Central Tablelands, Hunter, Sydney Metropolitan Area Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this afternoon. Some of these are expected to be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: * beware of fallen trees and power lines * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow down in the wet. If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm. TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for Central Tablelands and Hunter weather districts and the Sydney Metropolitan area. MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This Advice message is valid until 5pm. The Bureau and SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this time. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: another NSW STA Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:26:41 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice
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This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Central Tablelands, Hunter, Sydney Metropolitan Area

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during this
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hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall.

From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: STA-NSW Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:33:20 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com well arent we all on the ball.. haha.. so many warnings.. all the same ones.. Glad we are watching this brew up... Im hearing fire brigades from Sydney area on my radio scanner in Bathurst.. Many fires around Blue Mountains from lightning strikes, one particular fire is approx 300-400 metres long.. Wentworth Falls really in trouble. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: aus-wx: STA-NSW > the bom have put this advice out. > IDN28300 TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE > Issued at 1313 on Monday the 3rd of December 2001 This advice affects people > in the following weather districts: Central Tablelands, Hunter, Sydney > Metropolitan Area Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area during > this > afternoon. Some of these are expected to be severe bringing large > hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. The STATE EMERGENCY > SERVICE advises that as storms approach people > should: > * put vehicles under cover > * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: > * beware of fallen trees and power lines > * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away > > The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow > down in the wet. If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency > Service on 132 > 500 for emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the > storm. TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for Central Tablelands > and Hunter weather districts and the Sydney Metropolitan area. MEDIA PLEASE > NOTE: This Advice message is valid until 5pm. The Bureau > and SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this > time. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean McWhinney" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: STA-NSW Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:01:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just saw a (roll cloud?) come from the fornt of the southern sotrm with scud rotating around the front left of this roll cloud? anyhow plenty of cgs etc and bit of wind all in all a nice storm :D! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mirtschin" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: STA-NSW Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:57:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Glad we are watching this brew up... Im hearing fire brigades > from Sydney area on my radio scanner in Bathurst.. Many > fires around Blue Mountains from lightning strikes, one > particular fire is approx 300-400 metres long.. Wentworth > Falls really in trouble. What frequencies are you using? My scanner is sitting here unused at the moment. Hopefully some of the 500+ digital shots I just took of the storm as it passed over the Sutherland region (from Kingsgrove) show some of the light show... 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A line of storms is currently located from Kurnell to Baulkham Hills to Putty and is forecast to move towards the east reaching the coastal areas between Chatswood and the Central Coast within the next hour. Destructive winds, very heavy rainfall and large hail are possible. DESTRUCTIVE WINDS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REPORTED FROM THE RICHMOND AREA. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: * take extreme care when driving * beware of fallen trees and power lines * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm.] TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Warning current for parts of the Greater Sydney Area. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney storms Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:30:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
One of those 4 inch an hour cells passed just 2 km northeast of me (Seven Hills).Appeared there was an intense hail shaft on its southern flank. There was no rotation. Westerly winds prior to and with the storm cells reached about 60 or 70 km/hr but now have dropped and appear to be turning east to southeast..a seabreeze, or has that low pressure system/trough passed over? I think it might have. Barograph rose 4 millibars in a few minutes.
I have recorded only 0.2mm of rain.It seemed the local bird life was enjoying a ride..looked like a flock of ravens at least 1500 feet above the ground..a rare sight...Sun's out now,temp 32 and dewpoint's jumped from 12 to 18.
From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: STA-NSW Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:27:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: STA-NSW

It seems that it's all over down at Wollongong for a while at least. The cumulous seem to be topping out at a much lower level now than earlier, so maybe a stronger cap has developed. Does radar show anything else forming further behind this line of storms to affect us later today? Or is the southerly buster making it's way up the coast soon?

Hopefully I'll be out of here in time to set up my little pc camera and start a timelapse of any later action. Almost set to place reviews on my web page a la Michael Bath's effort for timelapse sequences of the day.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

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Just saw a (roll cloud?) come from the fornt of the southern sotrm with scud
rotating around the front left of this roll cloud? anyhow plenty of cgs etc
and bit of wind all in all a nice storm :D!

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From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: HAIL in Pymble Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:40:05 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just had report from friend in Sydney, golf ball size hail in Pymble.
 
Hawkesbury area has bad storm damage..
 
Any other reports.
 
Dave
 
 
Subject: aus-wx: SYD storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:44:06 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Greetings: I believe Sydney had some excitement today. This morning's sounding out of SSY showed very good lapse rates and good but shallow low-level moisture. The flow field also showed good turning and sufficient shear for supercells. For all LI fans, LI was -6.8, but this number does not account for the lack of moisture depth. Especially close to the coast (best moisture depth) I trust there will be some large hail reports. LCL seems a bit high for those swirly things ATM. The latest (02:32 UTC) VIS shows a NE-SE oriented line of anvils that increase in size the closer the underlying storms are located to the coast. Moisture depth is the only real issue here with a surface low in SE AUS accounting for low-level lift. The dewpoints right along the coastline N of Sydney look pretty good, leading to a very simple chase strategy. 04:20 UTC radar shows a 55+ dBZ cell ~20 km west of Newcastle, another at ~55 km W of Newcastle, and two cells 50-70 km S and SW, respectively. The moisture depth improves towards Bulahdelah (NSW), but I have no shear info. How cold was the outflow from those cells?? Harald (stuck in Melbourne) -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Storms Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:51:11 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Two dead in storm
From AAP
03dec01

TWO people were reported killed and a number of others injured, some by falling trees in severe storms which have swept across Sydney.

Roads were also blocked, power cut to thousands of homes and train lines cut as damaging winds reached 175kph.

Two people were trapped under a fallen tree at Crosslands Reserve on Somerville Road, near Hornsby Heights, in the city's north around 2.40pm, the NRMA CareFlight said.

Ambulance officers later reported the two had been killed, the NRMA Careflight said.

Two children had also suffered minor injuries, apparently in the same incident, it said.

A mother and her baby were injured when a tree hit their car in Queen Street, Campbelltown, south-west of Sydney, an ambulance spokesman said.

A crane was needed to pull the tree off the wreckage and rescue the 25-year-old woman and 18-month-old baby, the spokesman said.

The woman suffered serious injuries, while the baby escaped with only injuries to its arms, he said.

Both have been taken to Liverpool Hospital.

The storm appeared strongest north of Sydney, he said.

"There have been a number of cases in that area where people have had trees fall on them in their car," the spokesman said.

One woman was hit by a tree that toppled onto a church on the Pacific Highway, Hornsby, an ambulance spokesman said.

Also in Hornsby, a man was injured when a shop awning was ripped off its hinges.

Emergency calls were still coming in, the spokesman said.

"We have been stretched but we are able to handle it," he said.

A small child had also been swept into a drain at Cronulla, in Sydney's south, the spokesman said.

"The child is safe, which is remarkable," he said.

Meanwhile, at Luddenham, west of Sydney, a man slipped three or four metres off a roof during the storm, he said.

Fire services reported part of the roof of Hornsby hospital had blown off.

Bureau of Meteorology spokesman Philip King said a line of storms streaked across the Sydney metropolitan area causing winds of up to 175kph.

It only took between about 12.30pm and 2.30pm (AEDT) for the storms to cause their trail of destruction, he said.

"They caused severe down blast winds," he said.

He said the storm came in from the Illawarra area in the south and swept across the metropolitan area, extending as far west as the Blue Mountains.

The storms were now in the Hunter area, but most had moved out to sea.

The storm has affected the overhead cabling and signal systems on CityRail lines and this is expected to cause continued problems with train services.

Services both ways between Sutherland and Helensburgh on the Illawarra-South Coast line, Hornsby and Epping on the northern line, and Sydenham to Glenfield on the East Hills line, will be replaced by bus services and commuters will experience delays of up to 90 minutes today.

The Hornsby-Gordon service will also be replaced by buses, and delays of up to one hour are expected while the Richmond to Mulgrave replacement bus service will run 45 minutes behind regular train schedules both ways.

Regular commuters are urged to call 131 500 or check the cityrail.nsw.gov.au website before leaving work to get details and are urged to consider alternative arrangements.

Energy Australia reported that 50,000 customers were without electricity as a result of the storms.

Those affected were spread over 75 suburbs to Sydney's north and south with the worst affected in Hornsby and along Sydney's northern beaches.

"It seems there have been some pretty destructive winds - we've got reports of powerpoles snapping," a spokesman said.

"It may be quite some time until all of our customers are reconnected and it's very hard at this stage to say when that will be."

X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 14:29:00 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: aus-wx: Perth STA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com IDW28200 BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY WESTERN AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL OFFICE PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST SEVERE THUNDERSTORM ADVICE Issued at 2:30 pm WST on Monday, 3 December 2001 People in the northern parts of the Goldfields, far southern parts of the Gascoyne, the Central Wheatbelt district and northern half of the Lower West district, including the metropolitan area, are advised that there is a risk of severe thunderstorms during this afternoon and evening. Storms may be accompanied by hail, flash flooding and strong winds that could result in damage to property. The State Emergency Service advises that people should keep a lookout for thunderstorms and if storms approach secure loose items, move vehicles under cover, then stay indoors until the storms have passed. Driving conditions may be hazardous. This Thunderstorm Advice will be updated by 5:00pm. Jacob +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:18:53 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: PATHETIC THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We had a bit of pathetic thunderactivity around 5pm today when the southerly went through. (Much smaller scale than Sydney today) Never saw any lightning or heard any thunder but there were a couple of sferics. As it is Christchurch it was very short lived and I don't think anyone noticed as it was that pathetic. It totally dissipated in about 40 minutes. JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 21:46:51 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: PATHETIC THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Better than nothing !! Matt Smithh John Gaul wrote: > We had a bit of pathetic thunderactivity around 5pm today when the > southerly went through. > (Much smaller scale than Sydney today) > Never saw any lightning or heard any thunder but there were a couple of > sferics. > As it is Christchurch it was very short lived and I don't think anyone > noticed as it was that pathetic. It totally dissipated in about 40 minutes. > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm soc > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.164.253.198] From: "James Harris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD storms Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 07:58:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2001 20:58:14.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[39A63E10:01C17C3D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald and Others, I was very fortunate to have yesterday as my last chase day for TDU and as QLD was looking marginal for Sunday, Matt Smith and I headed back to Sydney on Sunday with nothing more than rest in our minds for Monday..... boy were we wrong A Full chase report and heaps of photos will be put on SSC shortly but I thought I would give a brief report of what happened around my area, the North Shore. Around 1pm I headed out to my favourite lookout at Acron Oval , St Ives where I managed to get some awesome Photos and Video of the storm that passed over the City before our one hit. I have never seen so many "flangs" in my life in Sydney before. Lightning was pulsing easily 6 to 7 times perfectly to the West of the City and then gradually over it. And yes I am very happy to say that I have heaps of Photos including some awesome day time lightning photos which I hope to have developed shortly. Whilst there I managed to see the cell over the city form a spectacular Gust Front/ Wall Cloud .. why Im not sure .. well I wasnt close enough to it and I haven't had a chance to look at the footage yet closely. It was around 130pm or so that I heard a loud crack and look to my West to see a very dark RFB closing in on me... I ran to the car park and witnesses some of the most awesome CG's and instantanious thunder I have heard in ages.... they were striking all round the oval with some awesome Bolts front as far high as I cold look to the ground in front. The Thunder was a deafening Rifle crack boom that was the loudest I had heard in ages.... I then managed to get a better view to the west were I could see the heaviest rain/hail curtain I have seen with alot of low cloud motion being picked up by the hail /rain curtain...I could see straight away that it just had that particular severe look to it and proceeded straight home for safety.. about 2 minutes later it hit with the heaviest hail / rain fall I have seen, but the main thing was the Wind.. as soon as the hail hit the wind hit with a wall of white from the NW, bending and snapping trees all over the place. I sat in the car whilst wave after wave of wind / hail hit until about 10 minutes later it calmed down. The back garden was flooded but most of our trees survived. I then went out for a damage assessment and have found the worst hit areas were Wahroonga, Waitara , Hornsby etc..... a summary of damage includes... - Thousands of trees ripped in half or completely fallen over - Trees have ripped power lines and poles everywhere - Power outages all over that could last a while... ( we got power back this morning) - Cars crushed by trees falling - Houses also crushed in sections by huge Gums falling also. It certainly was a very eerie scene as I surveyed the damage. I can only feel sorrow for those people who have suffered so much damage again after Jan 21 1991 major Storm. This one wasn't as bad as Jan 21 but it would be probably the second worse. BTW - Report from the BOM say that just before the storm hit at Richmond the temp was 40c ... 5 minutes later it was 19c !!!!!! Regards James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harald Richter" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: aus-wx: SYD storms > > Greetings: > > I believe Sydney had some excitement today. This morning's sounding > out of SSY showed very good lapse rates and good but shallow > low-level moisture. The flow field also showed good turning and sufficient > shear for supercells. For all LI fans, LI was -6.8, but this number > does not account for the lack of moisture depth. > Especially close to the coast (best moisture depth) I trust there will be > some large hail reports. LCL seems a bit high for those swirly things ATM. > > The latest (02:32 UTC) VIS shows a NE-SE oriented line of anvils > that increase in size the closer the underlying storms are located > to the coast. Moisture depth is the only real issue here with > a surface low in SE AUS accounting for low-level lift. > > The dewpoints right along the coastline N of Sydney look pretty > good, leading to a very simple chase strategy. 04:20 UTC radar > shows a 55+ dBZ cell ~20 km west of Newcastle, another at ~55 km W > of Newcastle, and two cells 50-70 km S and SW, respectively. > The moisture depth improves towards Bulahdelah (NSW), but I have no > shear info. > > How cold was the outflow from those cells?? > > Harald (stuck in Melbourne) > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD storms (comments) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:21:30 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After witnessing meteorological peculiarities, James typed... > It was around 130pm or so that I heard a loud crack and look to my West to > see a very dark RFB closing in on me... I ran to the car park and witnesses > some of the most awesome CG's and instantanious thunder I have heard in > ages.... they were striking all round the oval with some awesome Bolts > front as far high as I cold look to the ground in front. The Thunder was a > deafening Rifle crack boom that was the loudest I had heard in ages.... Just beware, the "loudness" of thunder is mainly an indication of how close you are to the lightning bolt (combined with how good your hearing is/was). "Loudness" is not an indicator of storm strength. [snip] > particular severe look to it and proceeded straight home for safety.. about > 2 minutes later it hit with the heaviest hail / rain fall I have seen, but > the main thing was the Wind.. [snip] > BTW - Report from the BOM say that just before the storm hit at Richmond the > temp was 40c ... 5 minutes later it was 19c !!!!!! These two things combined explain the mode of convection in Sydney yesterday. With pre-storm temperatures/dewpoints on the order of 35/15, descending raincores aloft lead to major evaporative cooling and the formation of a "blob" of dense, raincooled air aloft. That "blob" quickly comes to the realisation that it is awfully heavy, so it decides to accelerate downwards towards the ground. When it "hits" the ground, it spreads out sideways, and due to its speed it is able to snap some trees. Observations that indicate the above concept are: * initially high-based storms * large initial T/Td spread * _cold_ strong outflow from the storms * large T(before storm)/T(after strom) difference I am not a big fan of large T/Td spreads. They lead to significant melting of large hail (only small hail reaches the ground), and surface-based air parcels need to be lifted a long way before they rise moist adiabatically, which reduces the low-level CAPE significantly (and thus the chance for tubes). Back to work, Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:51:11 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If confirmed, the 94-knot (174 km/h) gust at Richmond would be the highest ever instrumentally measured in mainland NSW (the previous record being 92 knots/170 km/h at Nobbys Head on 26 May 1974). 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The meeting will consist of talking about the recent thunderstorm activity in Sydney and the Hunter over the last month, as well as the Thunder Down Under chase, with plenty of video and photographs to show! If you have any video, photographs, newspaper articles etc, please bring them along! It should be a great evening, and bring a few dollars for pizza! Matthew Pearce and Matthew Smith NSW ASWA State Reps. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: SYD Storms Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:41:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yesterday we also experienced a storm cell with very impressive lightning, I estimated about 15 lightning strikes coming within 1 kilometre of this house.  I didn't get any photos, I wasn't brave enough to even go near the windows. 
 What I would like to know is this. 
Twice now we have witnessed lightning strikes really close to the house and not heard any thunder.  The first time was a few weeks ago when we saw a lightning bolt running horizontally past our house only to strike the front yard of a house on the other side of the road.  Yesterday the same thing happened again, large lightning bolt [though not horizontal this time] and no thunder, otherwise each other strike had the most impressive thunder we have heard for many years.
At Franklins the Back Dock Receiver was standing just inside the door watching the storm and he told Adam that he had just seen an huge lightning bolt strike the carpark in Bungan Lane and that he also heard no thunder.  Can anyone explain this lack of thunder?
 
Otherwise we had two very brief, less than 1 minute, showers of rice size hail, at 3.08 pm and 3.15 pm, and 2.5 mm of rain.
 
Mona Vale Road was blocked by fallen trees near Bonds Nursery for several hours
Betta Fire Protection in Brookvale lost the front wall from a two storey building
Barriers around a building site in Narrabeen were left leaning towards the traffic
Mona Vale Hospital had to use their back up power while the power was off  -  ours was off from 2.30pm to 7.15pm
Wakehurst Parkway blocked in several places by trees
All the traffic signals in this area were blacked out for several hours
Truman Ave Cromer had all wires down
Numerous wires down in the suburbs of Cromer, Wheeler Heights, Belrose and Terry Hills
At on stage there were 130 jobs that hadn't even been called yet and late last night the crews were still working to remove trees and wires from back streets.
 
Judy Mayo
Subject: aus-wx: NSW coast today To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:21:05 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Folks: My guess for today's activities is centred on the NSW coast, near Sydney and N of it. Similar to yesterday, the best convection should hug the coast. Convection should extend inland to the NW with increasingly higher bases away from the coast. The primary severe mode should again be strong outflow. I am not sure how far N the activity will spread, but I don't expect QLD to see much of it. Any other opinions? Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Last virus email of Clyve Herbert with empty msg and attachment, was received other week ago or so. Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 13:20:52 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
I am warning to you all that last Clyve Herbert email was a virus infection with empty msg body and attachment. It was infected with W32.Badtrans.B at mm. Please do NOT open it. It was subject of Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. I didn't know this email was a virus, when I was opened it, it was empty, even attachment was empty but it did saved it into Document directory. While Kdll.dll and KERNEL32.EXE was saved into C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32. When this activate itself, it send the log file into keystroke log. So when I or someone press any key on keyboard, then virus start to spread it all over the hard drive and damaged the programs. This Norton Antivirus did not updated the definition till a week later. So I updated it and then it finally detected on one of clyve email and it did quarantine it till it has been deleted. So I did the full scan, found 3, one repaired, 2 couldn't, could not quarantine it, could not deleted it, still infected. NAV kept popping up while I press keystroke as NAV denied the access every time. So I got to NAV website, got all manual removal detail, reboot to safe mode, scan it over again, it did quarantine these at last, deleted it, then deleted kernel KERNEL32.exe off the registry. Now its clean again. So was it Adam sent virus email to Clyve by mistake?
 
So please make sure you didn't receieved any kind of Adam or Clyve email with that subject on Clyve email. If you have received it, please delete it. If you have been opening the Clyve email or Adam email with virus infection, then its too late, you need to get instruction for manual removal from NAV to get it all removed or other website antivirus company. Hope you do have your own antivirus scanner.
 
From Nathan.
X-Authentication-Warning: cordelia.flexi.net.au: Host racport12.flexi.net.au [203.37.233.28] claimed to be e6y7b9 From: "Adam Cole" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Last virus email of Clyve Herbert with empty msg and attachment, was received other week ago or so. Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:16:19 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'day all,
 
I'll make it very simple on all members of this group who are worried about email attachments from me. Basically, anyone who knows me knows i send very few email attachments, if any. This virus is a pain in the butt, i have so far got the virus back 6 times and counting.
 
My computer is clean at this time and i am not expecting to have virus problems again. I find it funny that ppl on weather may have got the virus from me, as i only send emails to auswx, not individuals. I am sorry for any concerns.
 
Hoping for storms this arvo, but will have to wait
 
Cheers
 
Adam
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Last virus email of Clyve Herbert with empty msg and attachment, was received other week ago or so.

Hi,
 
I am warning to you all that last Clyve Herbert email was a virus infection with empty msg body and attachment. It was infected with W32.Badtrans.B at mm. Please do NOT open it. It was subject of Severe thunderstorms hit Adelaide. I didn't know this email was a virus, when I was opened it, it was empty, even attachment was empty but it did saved it into Document directory. While Kdll.dll and KERNEL32.EXE was saved into C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32. When this activate itself, it send the log file into keystroke log. So when I or someone press any key on keyboard, then virus start to spread it all over the hard drive and damaged the programs. This Norton Antivirus did not updated the definition till a week later. So I updated it and then it finally detected on one of clyve email and it did quarantine it till it has been deleted. So I did the full scan, found 3, one repaired, 2 couldn't, could not quarantine it, could not deleted it, still infected. NAV kept popping up while I press keystroke as NAV denied the access every time. So I got to NAV website, got all manual removal detail, reboot to safe mode, scan it over again, it did quarantine these at last, deleted it, then deleted kernel KERNEL32.exe off the registry. Now its clean again. So was it Adam sent virus email to Clyve by mistake?
 
So please make sure you didn't receieved any kind of Adam or Clyve email with that subject on Clyve email. If you have received it, please delete it. If you have been opening the Clyve email or Adam email with virus infection, then its too late, you need to get instruction for manual removal from NAV to get it all removed or other website antivirus company. Hope you do have your own antivirus scanner.
 
From Nathan.
X-Originating-IP: [203.109.250.98] From: "Hector Pascal" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:47:37 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2001 11:47:38.0209 (UTC) FILETIME=[78E40D10:01C17CB9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tim, Carolyn, If it is the day I am thinking of, I think I may have been in the area. I ended up near Cessnock watching a very impressive storm to my east that was headed northeast. It had the appearence of a supercell and produced a long shelf cloud and bell-shaped updraught. So perhaps it was from this storm? Hopefully I'll have some photos to show you soon. Cheers, Paul >From: Tim Grugeon >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? >Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:11:27 +1100 > >G'day all, > >In the Newcastle Herald this morning there is an article about the >storms that hit around the Cessnock area yesterday afternoon (30th). >There were a few buildings that had there roofs partly torn off and they >are describing it as a 'willy willy' as this is what some witnesses saw. >To me it sounds like a tornado and just another typical poor report by >the media on the subject. >Have you heard anything of this Carolyn? > >Cheers, > >-- >Tim Grugeon >Maitland, NSW >http://www.hunterweather.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "clyve herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Virus..badtrans? Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 01:08:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Dec 2001 14:08:58.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[375323E0:01C17CCD] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. Although I would really like to choke the wopheads who play around with creating a virus (in the same level as graffiti taggers) I have just spent 4 hours getting rid of this infectious mess, please let me know if my computer continues to send unauthorised messages....regards Clyve Herbert. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:58:54 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Hector, I remember observing the shelf cloud of this storm in Newcastle. I have managed to obtain a bit more details on this storm and I have found that this report of a 'willy willy' was actaully in Rutherford, not in Cessnock which I originally thought. This storm occurred on Friday, 30th of November. Cheers, -- Tim Grugeon Maitland, NSW http://www.hunterweather.com Hector Pascal wrote: > Hi Tim, Carolyn, > If it is the day I am thinking of, I think I may have > been in the area. I ended up near Cessnock watching a very impressive > storm to my east that was headed northeast. It had the appearence of > a supercell and produced a long shelf cloud and bell-shaped > updraught. So perhaps it was from this storm? Hopefully I'll have > some photos to show you soon. > Cheers, > Paul > > >> From: Tim Grugeon >> Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Subject: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? >> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:11:27 +1100 >> >> G'day all, >> >> In the Newcastle Herald this morning there is an article about the >> storms that hit around the Cessnock area yesterday afternoon (30th). >> There were a few buildings that had there roofs partly torn off and they >> are describing it as a 'willy willy' as this is what some witnesses saw. >> To me it sounds like a tornado and just another typical poor report by >> the media on the subject. >> Have you heard anything of this Carolyn? >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Tim Grugeon >> Maitland, NSW >> http://www.hunterweather.com >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:17:57 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day all, For those who maybe interested, the Hunter had a large temperature variation yesterday (4/12/01) with Newcastle Uni only recording 25°C while Jerrys Plains recorded 37°C. Even though 12°C difference is not too abnormal between Newcastle and Jerrys Plains, the temperature differences between Maitland and Singleton was 8°C . Maitland recorded 27°C while Singleton recorded a top of 35°C. I have not seen such a variation between Maitland and Singleton for quiet some time. Usually the greatest deviation between the Singleton and Maitland temps is not much more then about 3°C during any given day in the summer. Cheers, -- Tim Grugeon Maitland, NSW http://www.hunterweather.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: "Aussie Weather List" Subject: aus-wx: mIRC Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:49:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I am having trouble logging onto the weather channel on mIRC for chat using Windows XP. Can someone suggest something or a new server to ping/login to. I am currently trying the default list with Random AU IRCNET.
Thankyou
 
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:03:36 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Close lightning without thunder means that it was very close indeed. We live in a building with an excellent lightning rod which is hit many times per year. We know when it is hit because the lightning is incredibly bright, we sometimes see molten metal falling from the rod (like when workmen are welding above), and there is no sound of thunder - sometimes just a fairly quiet zapping kind of sound as built-up discharges let go - and then one hears the much quieter echoes of the thunder as it comes back from the buildings across the river. On the other hand, when the building 50 metres from ours is hit, there is an instantaneous FLANG as the FLash and the bANG go off together. Then the thunder is deafening. The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave moves outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or may not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:41:14 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: SYD Storms > Yesterday we also experienced a storm cell with very impressive > lightning, I estimated about 15 lightning strikes coming within 1 > kilometre of this house. I didn't get any photos, I wasn't brave > enough to even go near the windows. > What I would like to know is this. > Twice now we have witnessed lightning strikes really close to the house > and not heard any thunder. The first time was a few weeks ago when we > saw a lightning bolt running horizontally past our house only to strike > the front yard of a house on the other side of the road. Yesterday the > same thing happened again, large lightning bolt [though not horizontal > this time] and no thunder, otherwise each other strike had the most > impressive thunder we have heard for many years. > At Franklins the Back Dock Receiver was standing just inside the door > watching the storm and he told Adam that he had just seen an huge > lightning bolt strike the carpark in Bungan Lane and that he also heard > no thunder. Can anyone explain this lack of thunder? > > Otherwise we had two very brief, less than 1 minute, showers of rice > size hail, at 3.08 pm and 3.15 pm, and 2.5 mm of rain. > > Mona Vale Road was blocked by fallen trees near Bonds Nursery for > several hours > Betta Fire Protection in Brookvale lost the front wall from a two > storey building > Barriers around a building site in Narrabeen were left leaning towards > the traffic > Mona Vale Hospital had to use their back up power while the power was > off - ours was off from 2.30pm to 7.15pm > Wakehurst Parkway blocked in several places by trees > All the traffic signals in this area were blacked out for several hours > Truman Ave Cromer had all wires down > Numerous wires down in the suburbs of Cromer, Wheeler Heights, Belrose > and Terry Hills > At on stage there were 130 jobs that hadn't even been called yet and > late last night the crews were still working to remove trees and wires > from back streets. > > Judy Mayo > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:23:35 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Monday chase account and pix Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2001/December3.htm enjoy. Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:35:37 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter

Hi Tim,

Would this have been due to the position of the trough. Down in Wollongong we had strong S-SE winds all day which only got stronger as the day went on. If the trough was positioned correctly, Newcastle and possibly even Maitland might've been positioned on the south side of the trough and copped cooler S winds during the later parts of the day, while Jerry's Plains and Singleton might not have seen the trough until later in the day during which time the temp was able to get much higher. I could be completely off the mark with this as I didn't see any weather charts during the day.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grugeon [mailto:timg at cnn.net.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 11:18 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter


G'day all,

For those who maybe interested, the Hunter had a large temperature
variation yesterday (4/12/01) with Newcastle Uni only recording 25°C
while Jerrys Plains recorded 37°C. Even though 12°C difference is not
too abnormal between Newcastle and Jerrys Plains, the temperature
differences between Maitland and Singleton was 8°C . Maitland recorded
27°C while Singleton recorded a top of 35°C. I have not seen such a
variation between Maitland and Singleton for quiet some time. Usually
the greatest deviation between the Singleton and Maitland temps is not
much more then about 3°C during any given day in the summer.

Cheers,

--
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://www.hunterweather.com

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From: dactyl at world.std.com To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:05:45 -0500 Subject: Re: aus-wx: mIRC X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello I am using Windows XP here the in the US and the latest version of mIRC. Just log onto any of the default Austnet servers in mIRC's server list. Click on the icon at the top of mIRC with the hammer. This will bring up the options menu. Click on connect. Where it says IRC servers, select Austnet. Pick Random AU server or anything else that's there. They all usually work. Fill in a name - don't use your real name, and then put in an email address - do not use your real one. You can use your real name and real email addresss but if you do that any one on the IRC network has access to it. Lastly, fill in the nick name you want to use, and then a backup nickname. Tick invisible mode. Then click on connect. If your internet connection is working you should have no problems connecting. Windows XP has no settings which should block you from connecting to Austnet. If you have a firewall, you might have to give mIRC permission to connect to the internet. After you connect just type /join #weather and then hit enter, and it should bring you onto the channel. You will see me there for sure, dactyl. If you want to speak privately with someone you know just type /msg cylcone or whoever, and a private window will open. The reason I sent this to the list instead of to Glen personally was in case anyone else was interested in checking this out. hope this helps tara On 5 Dec 2001, at 11:49, Glen O'Riley wrote: I am having trouble logging onto the weather channel on mIRC for chat using Windows XP. Can someone suggest something or a new server to ping/login to. I am currently trying the default list with Random AU IRCNET. Thankyou +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:09:45 +1000 To: Aussie Weather List From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: WARNING: NEW VIRUS: Goner Worm Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. To avoid infection problems, update your AV virus definitions. This nasty little bug looks to wreak havoc if it spreads. Info pasted below. Regards, Carl. W32.Goner.A at mm Discovered on: December 4, 2001 Last Updated on: December 4, 2001 at 01:00:44 PM PST Due to the increased rate of submission and level of damage, Symantec Security Response is upgrading W32.Goner.A at mm from Category 3 to Category 4. W32.Goner.A at mm is a mass-mailing worm that is written in Visual Basic. The worm has been compressed using a known Portable Executable (PE)* file compressor. The worm can spread its infection using the ICQ network as well as by email using Microsoft Outlook. If IRC is installed, this worm can also insert mIRC scripts that will enable the computer to be used in Denial of Service (DOS) attacks. Type: Worm Infection Length: 38,912 bytes Virus Definitions: December 4, 2001 Threat Assessment: Wild: High Damage: Medium Distribution: High Damage: Payload: Upon execution Large scale e-mailing: Send itself to all users in Outlook Address Books Deletes files: Attempts to delete several files, including NAV Distribution: Subject of email: Hi Name of attachment: Gone.scr Size of attachment: 38,912 bytes In the background, the worm starts iterating the Microsoft Outlook address book and sends itself to all addresses in the address book. The email appears as follows. The worm has been packed using a known Portable Executable (PE) packer. The size of the worm unpacked is approximately 159 KB. The worm adds the value C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr to the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run NOTES: %SYSTEM% is the path to the Windows System folder. In most cases this would be C:\Windows\System; however, the location could be different if the Windows System folder has been installed to a different location. The key has the same value as the name of the file that is being called. Once the registry key has been added, the worm will try to delete files of common anti-virus and firewall products. If the files are in use and cannot be deleted, the worm will create the file %SYSTEM%\Wininit.ini, which causes the files to be deleted when the computer restarts. W32.Goner.A at mm is capable of spreading over the ICQ network. If ICQ is installed on an infected machine, the worm will do the following: 1. Check for the version of the ICQ .dll file that contains the APIs that will be used. If the correct version is found, the worm proceeds. 2. Disable all notification. This means that the user cannot see what the worm is doing in the background. 3. Retrieve a list of all "buddies" who are currently online. 4. Retrieve information about each user individually. This information is required to be able to send files. 5. Send itself to all users on the list. 6. Re-enable all notifications. If mIRC is installed, this worm can insert scripts into the mIRC folder. This allows the computer to be used in DOS attacks. Removal instructions: To remove this worm, you must first reverse the changes that the worm made to the registry, restart the computer, reinstall NAV, and then run a full system scan and delete all infected files. Edit the registry: CAUTION: We strongly recommend that you back up the system registry before you make any changes. Incorrect changes to the registry could result in permanent data loss or corrupted files. Please make sure that you modify only the keys that are specified. Please see the document How to back up the Windows registry before you proceed. This document is available from the Symantec Fax-on-Demand system. In the U.S. and Canada, call (541) 984-2490, select option 2, and then request document 927002. 1. Click Start, and click Run. The Run dialog box appears. 2. Type regedit and then click OK. The Registry Editor opens. 3. Navigate to the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run 4. In the right pane, delete the following value: C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr NOTE:%SYSTEM% is the path to the Windows System folder. In most cases this would be C:\Windows\System; however, the location could be different if the Windows System folder has been installed to a different location. 5. Click Registry, and click Exit. 6. Restart the computer. 7. Reinstall NAV, and restart the computer. Remove the worm files 1. Run LiveUpdate to make sure that you have the most recent virus definitions. 2. Start Norton AntiVirus (NAV), and make sure that NAV is configured to scan all files. For instructions on how to do this, read the document How to configure Norton AntiVirus to scan all files. 3. Run a full system scan. 4. Delete all files that are detected as W32.Goner.A at mm. Deleted files will have to be replaced from a clean backup or reinstalled. Reinstall your firewall product, if needed. Additional information: *What are Portable Executable (PE) files? PE files are files that are portable across all Microsoft 32-bit operating systems. The same PE-format executable can be executed on any version of Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, and 2000. Therefore, all PE files are executable, but not all executable files are portable. A good example of a Portable Executable is a screen saver (.scr) file. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:27:05 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Andrew,

We had ESE winds that blew on the coast and in the lower Hunter for most of the day, while the upper parts of the Hunter had WNW winds. A cold front, which proceeded the trough line, passed through on Monday night, but only effected the areas within 30-40 km from the coast. As you worked out, the trough line didn't move fully over the Hunter until late Tuesday afternoon at about 6:30pm.

Cheers,
-Tim

Godsman, Andrew AG wrote:
RE: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter

Hi Tim,

Would this have been due to the position of the trough. Down in Wollongong we had strong S-SE winds all day which only got stronger as the day went on. If the trough was positioned correctly, Newcastle and possibly even Maitland might've been positioned on the south side of the trough and copped cooler S winds during the later parts of the day, while Jerry's Plains and Singleton might not have seen the trough until later in the day during which time the temp was able to get much higher. I could be completely off the mark with this as I didn't see any weather charts during the day.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grugeon [mailto:timg at cnn.net.au ]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2001 11:18 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temperature variations in the Hunter


G'day all,

For those who maybe interested, the Hunter had a large temperature
variation yesterday (4/12/01) with Newcastle Uni only recording 25°C
while Jerrys Plains recorded 37°C. Even though 12°C difference is not
too abnormal between Newcastle and Jerrys Plains, the temperature
differences between Maitland and Singleton was 8°C . Maitland recorded
27°C while Singleton recorded a top of 35°C. I have not seen such a
variation between Maitland and Singleton for quiet some time. Usually
the greatest deviation between the Singleton and Maitland temps is not
much more then about 3°C during any given day in the summer.

Cheers,

--
Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://www.hunterweather.com

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From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: mIRC Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:02:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com thanks, the suggestion of the different server worked perfectly ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: mIRC > Hello > > I am using Windows XP here the in the US and the latest version of > mIRC. Just log onto any of the default Austnet servers in mIRC's > server list. > > Click on the icon at the top of mIRC with the hammer. This will bring > up the options menu. Click on connect. Where it says IRC servers, > select Austnet. Pick Random AU server or anything else that's there. > They all usually work. Fill in a name - don't use your real name, and > then put in an email address - do not use your real one. You can > use your real name and real email addresss but if you do that any > one on the IRC network has access to it. Lastly, fill in the nick name > you want to use, and then a backup nickname. Tick invisible mode. > Then click on connect. If your internet connection is working you > should have no problems connecting. Windows XP has no settings > which should block you from connecting to Austnet. If you have a > firewall, you might have to give mIRC permission to connect to the > internet. After you connect just type /join #weather and then hit > enter, and it should bring you onto the channel. You will see me > there for sure, dactyl. If you want to speak privately with someone > you know just type /msg cylcone or whoever, and a private window > will open. > > The reason I sent this to the list instead of to Glen personally was in > case anyone else was interested in checking this out. > > > hope this helps > > tara > > On 5 Dec 2001, at 11:49, Glen O'Riley wrote: > > I am having trouble logging onto the weather channel on mIRC for chat using Windows XP. Can someone suggest something or a new server to ping/login to. I am currently trying the default list with Random AU IRCNET. > Thankyou > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WARNING: NEW VIRUS: Goner Worm Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:12:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For NAV users, it's a good idea to download from the website http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/download/pages/UK-N95.html --I found the 'live update' facility didn't update to this latest nasty,whereas the website one did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "Aussie Weather List" Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 4:09 PM Subject: aus-wx: WARNING: NEW VIRUS: Goner Worm > Hi All. > > To avoid infection problems, update your AV virus definitions. This nasty > little bug looks to wreak havoc if it spreads. Info pasted below. > > Regards, > Carl. > > > W32.Goner.A at mm > Discovered on: December 4, 2001 > Last Updated on: December 4, 2001 at 01:00:44 PM PST > > Due to the increased rate of submission and level of damage, Symantec > Security Response is upgrading W32.Goner.A at mm from Category 3 to Category 4. > > W32.Goner.A at mm is a mass-mailing worm that is written in Visual Basic. The > worm has been compressed using a known Portable Executable (PE)* file > compressor. The worm can spread its infection using the ICQ network as well > as by email using Microsoft Outlook. If IRC is installed, this worm can also > insert mIRC scripts that will enable the computer to be used in Denial of > Service (DOS) attacks. > > Type: Worm > > Infection Length: 38,912 bytes > > Virus Definitions: December 4, 2001 > > Threat Assessment: > > Wild: > High Damage: > Medium Distribution: > High > > Damage: > > Payload: Upon execution > Large scale e-mailing: Send itself to all users in Outlook Address Books > Deletes files: Attempts to delete several files, including NAV > Distribution: > > Subject of email: Hi > Name of attachment: Gone.scr > Size of attachment: 38,912 bytes > > > In the background, the worm starts iterating the Microsoft Outlook address > book and sends itself to all addresses in the address book. The email > appears as follows. > > The worm has been packed using a known Portable Executable (PE) packer. The > size of the worm unpacked is approximately 159 KB. > > The worm adds the value > > C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr > > to the registry key > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > > NOTES: > > %SYSTEM% is the path to the Windows System folder. In most cases this would > be C:\Windows\System; however, the location could be different if the > Windows System folder has been installed to a different location. > The key has the same value as the name of the file that is being called. > > Once the registry key has been added, the worm will try to delete files of > common anti-virus and firewall products. If the files are in use and cannot > be deleted, the worm will create the file %SYSTEM%\Wininit.ini, which causes > the files to be deleted when the computer restarts. > > W32.Goner.A at mm is capable of spreading over the ICQ network. If ICQ is > installed on an infected machine, the worm will do the following: > 1. Check for the version of the ICQ .dll file that contains the APIs that > will be used. If the correct version is found, the worm proceeds. > 2. Disable all notification. This means that the user cannot see what the > worm is doing in the background. > 3. Retrieve a list of all "buddies" who are currently online. > 4. Retrieve information about each user individually. This information is > required to be able to send files. > 5. Send itself to all users on the list. > 6. Re-enable all notifications. > > If mIRC is installed, this worm can insert scripts into the mIRC folder. > This allows the computer to be used in DOS attacks. > > Removal instructions: > > To remove this worm, you must first reverse the changes that the worm made > to the registry, restart the computer, reinstall NAV, and then run a full > system scan and delete all infected files. > > Edit the registry: > > CAUTION: We strongly recommend that you back up the system registry before > you make any changes. Incorrect changes to the registry could result in > permanent data loss or corrupted files. Please make sure that you modify > only the keys that are specified. Please see the document How to back up the > Windows registry before you proceed. This document is available from the > Symantec Fax-on-Demand system. In the U.S. and Canada, call (541) 984-2490, > select option 2, and then request document 927002. > > > 1. Click Start, and click Run. The Run dialog box appears. > 2. Type regedit and then click OK. The Registry Editor opens. > 3. Navigate to the following key: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > > 4. In the right pane, delete the following value: > > C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr C:\%SYSTEM%\gone.scr > > NOTE:%SYSTEM% is the path to the Windows System folder. In most cases this > would be C:\Windows\System; however, the location could be different if the > Windows System folder has been installed to a different location. > > 5. Click Registry, and click Exit. > 6. Restart the computer. > 7. Reinstall NAV, and restart the computer. > > Remove the worm files > 1. Run LiveUpdate to make sure that you have the most recent virus > definitions. > 2. Start Norton AntiVirus (NAV), and make sure that NAV is configured to > scan all files. For instructions on how to do this, read the document How to > configure Norton AntiVirus to scan all files. > 3. Run a full system scan. > 4. Delete all files that are detected as W32.Goner.A at mm. Deleted files will > have to be replaced from a clean backup or reinstalled. > > Reinstall your firewall product, if needed. > > > Additional information: > > *What are Portable Executable (PE) files? > PE files are files that are portable across all Microsoft 32-bit operating > systems. The same PE-format executable can be executed on any version of > Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, and 2000. Therefore, all PE files are executable, > but not all executable files are portable. > > A good example of a Portable Executable is a screen saver (.scr) file. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: huggins.shm.monash.edu.au: robert owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:36:58 +1100 From: Robert Goler X-Sender: robert at huggins.shm.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The rumbling of thunder is actually due to you hearing the sound waves produced by the expansion of air from different parts of the lightning bolt, and not reflections from objects. Hearing thunder out in the middle of nowhere in SA backs this up. As for why you don't hear the thunder during a real close lightning strike, this is because the initial pressure wave is not audible since it travels outwards faster than the speed of sound. However, this pressure wave eventually slows some distance from the lightning bolt and then becomes audible as thunder. For more info, check out: http://wvlightning.com/library.html and click on "The Big Noise" On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Smith wrote: > The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a > shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from > being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave moves > outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then > echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which > we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is > actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you > just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or may > not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monday chase account and pix Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:28:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2001 13:29:47.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[E86D3BC0:01C17D90] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Matt. What a fantastic report your photo gallery is spectacular especially the rain downburst ones almost unbelievable. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matthew Smith To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: aus-wx: Monday chase account and pix > http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2001/December3.htm > > enjoy. > > Matt Smith > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.17] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Lightning etc... Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 09:31:35 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Dec 2001 22:31:35.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[99167EF0:01C17DDC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, This just in from the NASA site: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast05dec_1.htm?list599660 Cheers, Kevin from an overcast but dry Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:33:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thank you, Robert. That is a truly excellent reference site. I was working on what I learned in school fifty years ago without thinking clearly of all of the possibilities or looking it up in more up- to-date research. I do recall a magnificent storm out in the middle of the Nullarbor in November 1982 when the thought did occur to me, "If thunder is mostly echoes, what the heck is it echoing off out here?" I should have done some more thinking back then. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:36:58 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production > > The rumbling of thunder is actually due to you hearing the sound waves > produced by the expansion of air from different parts of the lightning > bolt, > and not reflections from objects. Hearing thunder out in the middle of > nowhere in SA backs this up. As for why you don't hear the thunder > during a real close lightning strike, this is because the initial > pressure wave is not audible since it travels outwards faster than the > speed of sound. However, this pressure wave eventually slows some > distance from the lightning bolt and then becomes audible as thunder. > For more info, check out: > > http://wvlightning.com/library.html > and click on "The Big Noise" > > > On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Smith wrote: > > > The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a > > shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from > > being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave > moves > > outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then > > echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound > which > > we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning > is > > actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you > > just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or > may > > not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you > later. > > > Cheers > > -- > > Robert A. Goler > > School of Mathematical Sciences > Monash University > Clayton, Vic 3800 > Australia > > ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > -- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "B Groughan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:39:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello all I'm new to this list and like you all am intrigued by weather. I live at Freemans Reach, Sydney's outer north west. I was called out to a bushfire in our area ( I'm in a rural fire brigade) at 13.05 on Monday. I located the seat of the fire about 10mins later for incoming crews, as the first tankers arrived the wind had started to calm considerably, I noticed the storm was heading pretty much straight to where we were fighting the fire,then the wind stopped and the lightening started the most intense I had seen they seemed to be pulsing for several seconds from cloud to ground although I was busy with the fire at hand most of the strikes I did not hear. Needless to say it was a bit scary. A short while later I noticed the rumbling rolling thunder and the winds picked up and were quite gusty. Only to hear on the radio network of the enormous damage the was being reported by brigades as the storm front went through. There was no wind damage were I was but only a km or 2 away there was trees and all sorts of things down. Shame I could n't have observed it better. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms > Close lightning without thunder means that it was very close indeed. > We live in a building with an excellent lightning rod which is hit many > times per year. We know when it is hit because the lightning is > incredibly bright, we sometimes see molten metal falling from the rod > (like when workmen are welding above), and there is no sound of thunder - > sometimes just a fairly quiet zapping kind of sound as built-up > discharges let go - and then one hears the much quieter echoes of the > thunder as it comes back from the buildings across the river. > On the other hand, when the building 50 metres from ours is hit, there is > an instantaneous FLANG as the FLash and the bANG go off together. Then > the thunder is deafening. > The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a > shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from > being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave moves > outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then > echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which > we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is > actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you > just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or may > not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Adam Mayo" > To: > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:41:14 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: SYD Storms > > > Yesterday we also experienced a storm cell with very impressive > > lightning, I estimated about 15 lightning strikes coming within 1 > > kilometre of this house. I didn't get any photos, I wasn't brave > > enough to even go near the windows. > > What I would like to know is this. > > Twice now we have witnessed lightning strikes really close to the house > > and not heard any thunder. The first time was a few weeks ago when we > > saw a lightning bolt running horizontally past our house only to strike > > the front yard of a house on the other side of the road. Yesterday the > > same thing happened again, large lightning bolt [though not horizontal > > this time] and no thunder, otherwise each other strike had the most > > impressive thunder we have heard for many years. > > At Franklins the Back Dock Receiver was standing just inside the door > > watching the storm and he told Adam that he had just seen an huge > > lightning bolt strike the carpark in Bungan Lane and that he also heard > > no thunder. Can anyone explain this lack of thunder? > > > > Otherwise we had two very brief, less than 1 minute, showers of rice > > size hail, at 3.08 pm and 3.15 pm, and 2.5 mm of rain. > > > > Mona Vale Road was blocked by fallen trees near Bonds Nursery for > > several hours > > Betta Fire Protection in Brookvale lost the front wall from a two > > storey building > > Barriers around a building site in Narrabeen were left leaning towards > > the traffic > > Mona Vale Hospital had to use their back up power while the power was > > off - ours was off from 2.30pm to 7.15pm > > Wakehurst Parkway blocked in several places by trees > > All the traffic signals in this area were blacked out for several hours > > Truman Ave Cromer had all wires down > > Numerous wires down in the suburbs of Cromer, Wheeler Heights, Belrose > > and Terry Hills > > At on stage there were 130 jobs that hadn't even been called yet and > > late last night the crews were still working to remove trees and wires > > from back streets. > > > > Judy Mayo > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by Expert Anti-Virus. Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 11/24/01 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 21:29:11 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monday chase account and pix Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 13:23 5/12/01 +1100, you wrote: >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2001/December3.htm > >enjoy. > >Matt Smith > Enjoy I did. EXcellent report. Great downburst photos Looks likes Sydney's the place to be, better there than the pathetic dribble we get over here !!! By the way the moist NW from that low and others you have sent our way have been delivering a lot of rain to western areas of the South Island, much needed to fill up the hydro-lakes. No storms this side of the ditch unfortunately. This weather pattern seems a bit La Nina-ish which is annoying! JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay Organization: Davsoft To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: VIRUS W32/BadTrans at MM Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:51:25 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:35, thousands of scientists watched in disbelief as Tim Grugeon asserted this: > Hi All, > > Thanks heaps for the info about this latest virus. Can someone tell me > whether this virus spreads through Netscape 6.1 Mail? I use Netscape > mail clients, not Outlook Express. > Are the Netscape mail clients immuned to this latest virus? AFAIK only if you execute the attachment deliberately. David +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [192.148.117.41] From: "JON - Hotmail" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: TDU - Surfing the Trough Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:31:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Nov 2001 09:29:57.0581 (UTC) FILETIME=[691B7FD0:01C178B8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The chasers on a quiet day on TDU....... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/tdu0101.htm Many hundreds of pics to come later from all of us.......... 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Hi All,
 
Just noticed a new show on SBS tonight about Weather:Dragons of Chaos.   I realised too late to do anything about it, but I hope a few people have been smarter than me in this.
 
Carolyn
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X-Authentication-Warning: cordelia.flexi.net.au: Host racport46.flexi.net.au [203.37.233.62] claimed to be e6y7b9 From: "Adam Cole" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: VIRUS W32/BadTrans at MM Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:55:30 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well, just to be light hearted, and slightly back on topic, this virus is really cooking up a storm. Black clouds been over my head for a while now :( Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:29 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: VIRUS W32/BadTrans at MM > Hi Adam and All, > > I am a relatively new member to this list. I never contribute as I am > unaware of the technicalities that you guys speak of, but am very interested > in this amazing weather we have been having ... hence my subscription :) > > Anyway, here are some details that may assist you with that pesky virus : > > BADTRANS.B is a new and particularly nasty virus. It has an "auto execute" > feature which does not require the recipient to open the attachment in which > it is hiding. You only have to view the post for the virus to be activated. > Another of its features is that it can forge the return address so the > identity of the sender is masked. Everyone should update their antiviral > software virus definition list immediately AND, for everyone using MS > Outlook, contact Microsoft for the security patch which prevents the virus > from auto executing. > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/ > bulletin/MS01-020.asp > > I run Outlook Express and have enabled a pop-up screen that asks if I want > to open an attachment ... this prevents the attachment from auto-executing. > > I will list here some details to help you get it cleaned. > > *** I highly recommend PC-cillin. You can go to the website and have your > machine thoroughly scanned and also download a free 30-day trial copy of > their virus software. > http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/start_corp.asp > > > Here is another URL ..... and it is free !! www.grisoft.com > > It will presumably pick up the virus and advise you what to do. If this > isn't successful, try these other places : > > This is a 30day free download : http://www.protectorplus.com/download > > You can do a virus scan and get a 14 day free trial here : www.mcafee.com > > This web site was created to help people understand today's computer viruses > and assist them in cleaning their own systems. Questions are answered using > a Q & A format with straightforward terminology. > http://www.getvirushelp.com/ > > This site runs diagnostics on your computer : http://pcpitstop.com > Try here for info on viruses : > http://datafellows-sun-1.digisle.net/v-descs/_new.shtml > > I hope that out of these, you are able to sort things out. > > Love > Sha > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Cole" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: VIRUS W32/BadTrans at MM > > > > Okay, if anyone has any solutions to the virus please email me (if i you > > can) as i have a few problems trying to delete it at the moment. And i'm > > sorry clyve, i think i gave you the virus and now it seems you may have > > given it back to me. Sorry for the inconvenience as i didn't even open the > > attachment, but still gave it > > > > Sorry > > > > Adam > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW storms expected To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:46:49 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Convective connoisseurs, Today's setup in C and NE NSW is of interest, albeit complicated. I see the distinct possibility of strong convection in the area. The 20011207/0000 UTC surface analysis can identify a (frontal) boundary draped from SE NSW through N of Wagga, N of Broken Hill into NE SA. A thermal ridge is beginning to form behind the morning convection along the Cobar-Bourke axis in NSW, with surface temps approacing 30 C. Surface dewpoints ahead of the boundary are all OK, with improvements towards the NE. The area N of BBN sits on Td ~ 20 C (expected to mix out to around 16-17 C later), the area around CBT has Td ~ 15 C (expected to mix out towards 10 C, or be pushed out by the boundary). The upper pattern shows a jet running across all of NSW, with generally 50+ knots at 500 hPa anywhere in the E-W corridor between BCV and SWG. PWR (Woomera) points towards a potential increase in the mid-level flow sporting 85 knots at 2300 UTC, leading to more than sufficient shear for supercells. If I had spare time I'd park between Dubbo and Bourke, and move NE with the "show" (if applicable) later. Cheers, Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:49:17 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 07/12/2001 12:49:17 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1228 on Friday the 7th of December 2001 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Central West Slopes and Plains Central Tablelands Upper Western South West Slopes, Southern Tablelands Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon. 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Wollongong 3:00pm

A beautiful frontal line moving up the coast. Torrential rain with the front, I'd guess to say a good 5mm has just fallen in a little over 5 mins. A litle lightning with it, but watch out Sydney. Get your cameras out, it is fairly picturess.

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From: "Dean McWhinney" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:09:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: NSW STA
Do you think it will make sydney or die?
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Wollongong 3:00pm

A beautiful frontal line moving up the coast. Torrential rain with the front, I'd guess to say a good 5mm has just fallen in a little over 5 mins. A litle lightning with it, but watch out Sydney. Get your cameras out, it is fairly picturess.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

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From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:22:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: NSW STA

Look’s like it is now heading offshore. Way up there on the radar, so it must be a decent little storm

 

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Do you think it will make sydney or die?

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Wollongong 3:00pm

A beautiful frontal line moving up the coast. Torrential rain with the front, I'd guess to say a good 5mm has just fallen in a little over 5 mins. A litle lightning with it, but watch out Sydney. Get your cameras out, it is fairly picturess.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

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From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:36:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: NSW STA
Apparently not...
 
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This advice cancels and replaces the advice issued at 1410 and now affects
people in the following weather districts:

North West Slopes and Plains, Illawarra, 
Central West Slopes and Plains  
Central Tablelands
Upper Western

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon. Some of
these are expected to be severe bringing damaging winds and large
hailstones. 

The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
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  * move indoors away from windows

During and after the storm people should:
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If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for
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TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for North West Slopes and
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Do you think it will make sydney or die?
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Wollongong 3:00pm

A beautiful frontal line moving up the coast. Torrential rain with the front, I'd guess to say a good 5mm has just fallen in a little over 5 mins. A litle lightning with it, but watch out Sydney. Get your cameras out, it is fairly picturess.

Cheers
Andrew Godsman

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Upper Western
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Subject: aus-wx: NSW convection To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:18:09 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, The front/boundary across NSW has done it again ... and forced convection along its entire length (subject to the geo-political boundary of NSW). Main areas of lightning activity are between Dubbo and Bourke (this virtual chase would have worked out for me), E of West Wyalong and the Yass/Goulburn area. Given the strong upper-level flow the convection might be quite entertaining in the hours to come. The mid-level temps are better to the south, but the low levels (T,Td) favour the Bourke-Dubbo convection. The "play" is cells ahead of the forming line, or gaps in the line. Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.250.99] From: "Hector Pascal" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 18:27:54 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2001 07:27:55.0021 (UTC) FILETIME=[AFD383D0:01C17EF0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tim, Yes, I do remember, this was the day. I saw something quit suspiscious to my southwest - I thought it looked like a possible tornado, so I zoomed in. With some luck, it'll turn out and I should get it back in a couple of weeks (as it was super 8 film and is sent overseas for processing). Cheers, Paul >From: Tim Grugeon >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? >Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 10:58:54 +1100 > >Hi Hector, > >I remember observing the shelf cloud of this storm in Newcastle. I have >managed to obtain a bit more details on this storm and I have found that >this report of a 'willy willy' was actaully in Rutherford, not in >Cessnock which I originally thought. This storm occurred on Friday, 30th >of November. > >Cheers, > >-- >Tim Grugeon >Maitland, NSW >http://www.hunterweather.com > >Hector Pascal wrote: > >>Hi Tim, Carolyn, >> If it is the day I am thinking of, I think I may have >>been in the area. I ended up near Cessnock watching a very impressive >>storm to my east that was headed northeast. It had the appearence of >>a supercell and produced a long shelf cloud and bell-shaped >>updraught. So perhaps it was from this storm? Hopefully I'll have >>some photos to show you soon. >>Cheers, >> Paul >> >> >>>From: Tim Grugeon >>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>>Subject: aus-wx: Tornado at Cessnock???? >>>Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:11:27 +1100 >>> >>>G'day all, >>> >>>In the Newcastle Herald this morning there is an article about the >>>storms that hit around the Cessnock area yesterday afternoon (30th). >>>There were a few buildings that had there roofs partly torn off and they >>>are describing it as a 'willy willy' as this is what some witnesses saw. >>>To me it sounds like a tornado and just another typical poor report by >>>the media on the subject. >>>Have you heard anything of this Carolyn? >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>-- >>>Tim Grugeon >>>Maitland, NSW >>>http://www.hunterweather.com >>> >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>>to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>message. >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 20:57:51 +1300 From: Gregg Ward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: "aussie-weather at world.std.com" Subject: aus-wx: [Fwd: : Severe Weather Watch : 011739] - Attn: John Gaul Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com John Gaul, Looks like you're in for some heavy rain over the weekend. Gregg Ward Palmerston North NZ E-mail: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz -------- Original Message -------- Subject: : Severe Weather Watch : 011739 Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 04:29:44 +0000 (UTC) From: sort_msg at met.co.nz To: WATCH at lists.metservice.co.nz {WATCH Event 2001/1.57} SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR THE RANGES OF NORTHERN WESTLAND AND BULLER, CANTERBURY ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 1729hrs 07-Dec-2001 EASTERLY RAIN IN CANTERBURY MetService forecasters are watching the development of a low moving across the Tasman. The low is likely to lie across central parts of New Zealand from Saturday afternoon through Sunday, resulting in a wet easterly flow onto the Canterbury region. This may bring a lengthy spell of rain to Canterbury with the risk of significant accumulation over a 24 to 30 hour period in the eastern foothills. In Westland and Buller, the Severe Weather Watch for Saturday continues but the chance of heavy rainfalls is looking less likely. This Watch will be reviewed by 9am sat 8 December 2001 Forecast prepared by: Bob Lake (C) Copyright Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd 2001 --------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed as: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz To unsubscribe, e-mail: or go to: http://lists.metservice.co.nz/unsub.php/watch/gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz -- Gregg Ward Telephone: +64-6-354 2082 E-mail: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz ICQ: 114869387 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carl Skillern" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:14:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, As per a couple of other people who have recently sent emails, I to am quite new to this forum. I quite enjoy trying to work out what is being said most of the time and have really enjoyed some of the photos and videos sent. My main reason for being part of the group is to find out where hail has hit because I make a living out of repairing cars that have been damaged by hail. I have heard that somewhere in W.A got plenty of hail a day or two ago. Does anybody know exactly where that was? This info would be much appreciated. Regards Carl -----Original Message----- From: Robert Goler To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: 05 December, 2001 10:53 Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production > >The rumbling of thunder is actually due to you hearing the sound waves >produced by the expansion of air from different parts of the lightning bolt, >and not reflections from objects. Hearing thunder out in the middle of >nowhere in SA backs this up. As for why you don't hear the thunder >during a real close lightning strike, this is because the initial >pressure wave is not audible since it travels outwards faster than the >speed of sound. However, this pressure wave eventually slows some >distance from the lightning bolt and then becomes audible as thunder. >For more info, check out: > >http://wvlightning.com/library.html >and click on "The Big Noise" > > >On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Smith wrote: > >> The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a >> shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from >> being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave moves >> outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then >> echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which >> we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is >> actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you >> just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or may >> not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. > > >Cheers > >-- > >Robert A. Goler > >School of Mathematical Sciences >Monash University >Clayton, Vic 3800 >Australia > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > >-- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:58:35 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: [Fwd: : Severe Weather Watch : 011739] - Attn: John Gaul Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 20:57 7/12/01 +1300, you wrote: >John Gaul, > >Looks like you're in for some heavy rain over the weekend. > > >Gregg Ward >Palmerston North >NZ YES about time. Looking forward to it. Hope there is some thunder with it !? JohnGaul NZTS >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: : Severe Weather Watch : 011739 >Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 04:29:44 +0000 (UTC) >From: sort_msg at met.co.nz >To: WATCH at lists.metservice.co.nz > > > >{WATCH Event 2001/1.57} >SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR THE RANGES OF NORTHERN WESTLAND AND BULLER, >CANTERBURY >ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 1729hrs 07-Dec-2001 > >EASTERLY RAIN IN CANTERBURY > >MetService forecasters are watching the development of a low moving >across the Tasman. The low is likely to lie across central parts of >New Zealand from Saturday afternoon through Sunday, resulting in a >wet easterly flow onto the Canterbury region. This may bring a >lengthy spell of rain to Canterbury with the risk of significant >accumulation over a 24 to 30 hour period in the eastern foothills. > >In Westland and Buller, the Severe Weather Watch for Saturday >continues but the chance of heavy rainfalls is looking less likely. > >This Watch will be reviewed by 9am sat 8 December 2001 >Forecast prepared by: Bob Lake > >(C) Copyright Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd 2001 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.171.104.241] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: "New" Pix... Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 21:42:22 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2001 10:42:22.0834 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA627D20:01C17F0B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Finally got near a scanner...these pix are from ancient history (i.e. first two digits are the year I took them...) http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/840012.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/840013.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/850010.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/850011.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950001.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950002.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950003.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950004.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950005.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950006.jpg http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950007.jpg Dunno if there's anything really interesting amongst them but I suspect a wall cloud from 1984... Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof P.S. Lots more old pix I found yesterday :)) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 22:01:06 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: "New" Pix... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey Cappa ! Great pictures ! I love the first one and the last one, great photos and I love the colours! I love seeing weather photos from years back. On the picture topic, ive got a bunch of photos from the recent TDU scanned for those that are interested. Included on page 2 is what myself, and fellow TDU guys I chased with believe is a tornado.It is under a shelf cloud for starters, buttttttttt there could easily have been an updraught region on the other side of it that we could not see, judge for yourself. Picture is a tad blurry as we were in a rush as the storm was about to hit us! http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2001/TDU2001-1.htm , enjoy! Matt Smith Kevin Phyland wrote: > Hi every1, > > Finally got near a scanner...these pix are from ancient history (i.e. first > two digits are the year I took them...) > > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/840012.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/840013.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/850010.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/850011.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950001.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950002.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950003.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950004.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950005.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950006.jpg > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/950007.jpg > > Dunno if there's anything really interesting amongst them but I suspect a > wall cloud from 1984... > > Cheers, > Kevin from Wycheproof > > P.S. Lots more old pix I found yesterday :)) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: aus-wx: WA hail Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 21:59:52 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2001 11:06:50.0471 (UTC) FILETIME=[452A1F70:01C17F0F] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi Carl the town was esperence in WA, read below One business says it had 200 people wanting their vehicles fixed yesterday. Smash repairer Sue Symonds says at this rate it will be at least 12 months before they can clear the backlog of work. Simon Angell Canberra ACT ICQ# 128920513 www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Skillern" To: Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production > Hi all, > As per a couple of other people who have recently sent emails, I to am quite > new to this forum. I quite enjoy trying to work out what is being said most > of the time and have really enjoyed some of the photos and videos sent. My > main reason for being part of the group is to find out where hail has hit > because I make a living out of repairing cars that have been damaged by > hail. I have heard that somewhere in W.A got plenty of hail a day or two > ago. Does anybody know exactly where that was? This info would be much > appreciated. > > Regards > Carl > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Goler > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: 05 December, 2001 10:53 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production > > > > > >The rumbling of thunder is actually due to you hearing the sound waves > >produced by the expansion of air from different parts of the lightning > bolt, > >and not reflections from objects. Hearing thunder out in the middle of > >nowhere in SA backs this up. As for why you don't hear the thunder > >during a real close lightning strike, this is because the initial > >pressure wave is not audible since it travels outwards faster than the > >speed of sound. However, this pressure wave eventually slows some > >distance from the lightning bolt and then becomes audible as thunder. > >For more info, check out: > > > >http://wvlightning.com/library.html > >and click on "The Big Noise" > > > > > >On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Smith wrote: > > > >> The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a > >> shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from > >> being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave moves > >> outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then > >> echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which > >> we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is > >> actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you > >> just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or may > >> not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. > > > > > >Cheers > > > >-- > > > >Robert A. Goler > > > >School of Mathematical Sciences > >Monash University > >Clayton, Vic 3800 > >Australia > > > >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 > >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au > >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ > > > >-- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: New photos Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:50:32 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Dec 2001 20:52:00.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[04162540:01C17F61] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just uploaded *4* new photos to my site, please click the direct link below. www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/4thgallery.htm these are from the 4th of december when a menacing, But not severe thunderstorm passed over canberra. interestin to note that i could not here or see thunder from this storm, however heavy rain was falling over south canberra and the southern mountains. Simon Angell Canberra ACT ICQ# 128920513 www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: PICS: storms and jupiter Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:46:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi all,
stayed up for a while last night searching for comet WM1 somewhere near pisces/cetus area. left it a little too late b4 it set after midnight. a couple of minor lightning shows caught my attention to the far south. they were very quick to move east out of sight. but i did manage to get a few photos and a couple of captures:
it died from lightning every 5 seconds to nuthing whatsoever instantly. by this time jupiter was directly over head. so i got my 4" telescope out, and it was the clearest view i've ever had of it. the two main bands were clearly visible and the great red spot was just visible. i put my video camera to the lense and caught these images for yas.
 
cyas
 
 
Steve Baynham
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X-Originating-IP: [203.109.252.19] From: "steven williams" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: nzstorm at ihug.co.nz Subject: aus-wx: Wet start to summer Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 06:13:15 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2001 06:13:16.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C90FC50:01C17FAF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com New Zealand is having a wet start to summer which will keep the farmers happy atleast and I guess the same can be said for SE Australia. It has rained all day in Auckland but the good news is the front will be history tomorrow. Sunny skies over the North island tomorrow should trigger a few thunderstorms, these most likely over central areas. Auckland 7pm Rain temp 20C hum 95%. Regards Steven Williams Auckland Weather Watcher _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carl Skillern" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: WA hail Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:10:04 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Simon, Thanks for that info much appreciated. Regards Carl -----Original Message----- From: Simon Angell To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: 08 December, 2001 12:22 Subject: aus-wx: WA hail >hi Carl > >the town was esperence in WA, read below > >One business says it had 200 people wanting their vehicles fixed yesterday. >Smash repairer Sue Symonds says at this rate it will be at least 12 months >before they can clear the backlog of work. > >Simon Angell >Canberra ACT >ICQ# 128920513 >www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carl Skillern" >To: >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 9:14 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production > > >> Hi all, >> As per a couple of other people who have recently sent emails, I to am >quite >> new to this forum. I quite enjoy trying to work out what is being said >most >> of the time and have really enjoyed some of the photos and videos sent. My >> main reason for being part of the group is to find out where hail has hit >> because I make a living out of repairing cars that have been damaged by >> hail. I have heard that somewhere in W.A got plenty of hail a day or two >> ago. Does anybody know exactly where that was? This info would be much >> appreciated. >> >> Regards >> Carl >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Goler >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Date: 05 December, 2001 10:53 >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: SYD Storms - Thunder Production >> >> >> > >> >The rumbling of thunder is actually due to you hearing the sound waves >> >produced by the expansion of air from different parts of the lightning >> bolt, >> >and not reflections from objects. Hearing thunder out in the middle of >> >nowhere in SA backs this up. As for why you don't hear the thunder >> >during a real close lightning strike, this is because the initial >> >pressure wave is not audible since it travels outwards faster than the >> >speed of sound. However, this pressure wave eventually slows some >> >distance from the lightning bolt and then becomes audible as thunder. >> >For more info, check out: >> > >> >http://wvlightning.com/library.html >> >and click on "The Big Noise" >> > >> > >> >On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Phil Smith wrote: >> > >> >> The reason for this is simple. The thunder sound is caused by a >> >> shockwave as the air through which the lightning passes explodes from >> >> being heated hotter than the surface of the sun. As this shockwave >moves >> >> outwards it is initially just a super-loud "bang". This sound then >> >> echoes off everything else around and produces the rumbling sound which >> >> we know as thunder. If you are within the area where the lightning is >> >> actually striking, the sound is moving outwards away from you and you >> >> just don't hear it. Depending on the objects around you, you may or >may >> >> not hear the reflected sound of the thunder echoing back to you later. >> > >> > >> >Cheers >> > >> >-- >> > >> >Robert A. Goler >> > >> >School of Mathematical Sciences >> >Monash University >> >Clayton, Vic 3800 >> >Australia >> > >> >ph. +61 3 9905 4424 >> >email Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au >> >http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ >> > >> >-- >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 13:53:51 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: [Fwd: : Severe Weather Watch : 011739] - Attn: John Gaul Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 20:57 7/12/01 +1300, you wrote: >John Gaul, > >Looks like you're in for some heavy rain over the weekend. > > >Gregg Ward >Palmerston North >NZ >E-mail: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz We got buggerall 6.5mm is all I got and now they are forecasting southerly gales for tomorrow so we'll probably get just a slight puff of wind from the north !!!! JohnGaul NZTS >{WATCH Event 2001/1.57} >SEVERE WEATHER WATCH FOR THE RANGES OF NORTHERN WESTLAND AND BULLER, >CANTERBURY >ISSUED BY METSERVICE AT 1729hrs 07-Dec-2001 > >EASTERLY RAIN IN CANTERBURY > >MetService forecasters are watching the development of a low moving >across the Tasman. The low is likely to lie across central parts of >New Zealand from Saturday afternoon through Sunday, resulting in a >wet easterly flow onto the Canterbury region. This may bring a >lengthy spell of rain to Canterbury with the risk of significant >accumulation over a 24 to 30 hour period in the eastern foothills. > >In Westland and Buller, the Severe Weather Watch for Saturday >continues but the chance of heavy rainfalls is looking less likely. > >This Watch will be reviewed by 9am sat 8 December 2001 >Forecast prepared by: Bob Lake > >(C) Copyright Meteorological Service of New Zealand Ltd 2001 > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >You are subscribed as: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz >To unsubscribe, e-mail: >or go to: http://lists.metservice.co.nz/unsub.php/watch/gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz > >Gregg Ward >Telephone: +64-6-354 2082 >E-mail: gregg.ward at xtra.co.nz >ICQ: 114869387 ------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul" To: "Aus Wx" Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 13:39:52 +1100 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2360) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: storm pix Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I found a small gallery of storm related pix of the big storms we had in Sydney last week... http://www.smh.com.au/news/0112/04/gallery/snapshot1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Rands prands at efter-stormen.com - ICQ UIN: 137833127 "If you eliminate all other possibilities, what remains is the answer no matter how improbable it may appear." All e-mail is scanned by the latest version of Norton Anti-Virus 2002. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.252.19] From: "steven williams" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: nzstorm at ihug.co.nz Subject: aus-wx: New Zealand Rain Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 02:36:01 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2001 02:36:02.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E364300:01C1805A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, I think most of the rain hit the north island with western and northern areas catching between 30 and 60mm yesterday. Today we are stuck in overcaste stratocumulus. The midday sounding shows the atmosphere to be a bit stable today but I think that will change tomorrow as the trough passes over. Always the chance of something interesting at this time of year. I notice NIWA are anticipating a more active Tropical Cyclone season late summer. That means humid wet easterlies for Auckland and southerlies for Canterbury. Auckland City Weather 3pm W05kts OVC Temp22 Hum 80% Baro 999mbs Cheers Steven Williams Weather Observer _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 21:40:41 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Zealand Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:36 9/12/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hi John, >I think most of the rain hit the north island with western and northern >areas catching between 30 and 60mm yesterday. Today we are stuck in >overcaste stratocumulus. The midday sounding shows the atmosphere to >be a bit stable today but I think that will change tomorrow as the >trough passes over. Always the chance of something interesting >at this time of year. >I notice NIWA are anticipating a more active Tropical Cyclone season >late summer. That means humid wet easterlies for Auckland and >southerlies for Canterbury. >Auckland City Weather 3pm W05kts OVC Temp22 Hum 80% Baro 999mbs >Cheers >Steven Williams >Weather Observer We will just have to wait and see. Overcast, dull and boring day here in ChCh. southerly at first then Ne and then light variable winds. No change. Remaining overcast with a 8/8 cloud cover. One of those cold cloudy stagnant days. Temperature sitting around between the 11 and 12c mark No rain. - Lovely summers day - now off to light the fire and put the winter woolies on !! 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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:30:13 +1100 (EST) From: Grant B Subject: aus-wx: Air Pressure To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G’Day Everybody, With all of this wild weather around lately I’ve just quickly gone through some of my air pressure readings over the last month or so. I generally found that when air pressure has been low, it has been dropping to near and in most cases below or even well below 1000 hpa. With my lowest pressure being 995 hpa just before the storm devastated the Port Stephens area on Sun 18 Nov 2001. When the air pressure has been at it’s peak, it has only been rising to about 1015 hpa which I think is very low, even for this time of year when lower air pressure can dominate. And with air pressure again dropping to 997 hpa as I speak (no storms possible though I believe because of only a 5 C dew-point temperature, personally, I can’t see an end to these conditions. I think that the wild storms around is a sign of things to come for this storm season. Should have sent this message a couple of hours ago, but I sent it to the wrong address. Anyway, now my dew-point temperature has just dipped below zero (pretty rare for this time of year), and air pressure is sitting on 1001 hpa. Cheers, Grant http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: cell SW of Beaudesert (QLD) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:18:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2001 13:23:52.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[E914BCB0:01C1817D] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We targeted the SEQ area this day but left our run across the ranges from the Downs to SE Coastal areas about 30 mins too late. We came through the ranges just as the cells started to take off and we got slowed up by a heavy storm in the Cunningham Ranges. We came out just ahead of the cell to find the squall line almost developed but a few interesting lowerings kept us watching. As the squall line became more defined we just followed it back to Ipswich where we let it pass overhead. Some small hail was reported as were some damaging winds. Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: aus-wx: cell SW of Beaudesert (QLD) > > A (more or less) isolated storm (the last of its species) is heading towards > Beaudesert (QLD) ahead of a closing squall line. > The 5:30 UTC 0.5 deg. Brisbane/Marburg radar gives it at least 50 dBZ. > > There are still indications of a surface low between Grafton and Moree, > perhaps keeping the area W of Coffs Harbour in the game (especially > if it sees some more sunshine). > > Harald > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:25:24 +1100 (EST) From: Grant B Subject: aus-wx: Regular monthly weather summaries To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'Day, If anybody would like me to send them a copy of my regular monthly weather summary from Raymond Terrace, then just send an e-mail to pk4260 at idl.net.au (that is if you do not already receive a copy) A copy of my latest (November) summary can be found below. NOVEMBER 2001 Weather Report, Climatic conditions Recorded from Raymond Terrace Using a WM-918 Electronic Weather Station, and Nylex Rain Gauge 1000. © 2001 by: Grant Burgess Circulation: 21 + Frequency: Monthly Issue #: 71 My Daily Min/Max Air Temperatures & Rainfall Readings can be Found Weekly in the Port Stephens Examiner. Circulation: 26 100 The Average Max Temp was ……..…..... 25.32 oC (which is 0.99 oC Below average) The Highest Max Temp was …….……..... 34.4 oC (recorded on the 30th at 1647) The Lowest Max Temp was ……..…......... 15.6 oC (A Record For Nov) (recorded on the 20th at 1247) The Average Min Temp was .………....... 13.59 oC (which is 0.04 oC Above average) The Highest Min Temp was ...….………... 19.1 oC (recorded on the 26th & 27th at 0303 & 0648 Resp.) The Lowest Min Temp was ..……................ 7.8 oC (recorded on the 23rd at 0600) The Avg Max Relative Humidity was ………. 87.23 % (which is 4.25 % Below average) The Avg Min Relative Humidity was ………. 36.07 % (which is 4.88 % Below average) The Avg Max Dew-Point Temp was ………. 15.23 oC (which is 1.15 oC Below average) The Avg Min Dew-Point Temp was ………... 6.90 oC (which is 2.02 oC Below average) The Avg Max Wind Gust was ……………. 32.06 km/h (which is 2.33 km/h Above average) The Max Wind Gust was …………………... 57.2 km/h (recorded from the S on the 19th at 2041) The Avg Min Wind Chill was ……………... 10.73 oC (which is 0.81 oC Below average) The Min Wind Chill was …………………….. 3.0 oC (recorded on the 19th at 2041) The Median Monthly Rainfall is …..….. 84.45 mm The Total Monthly Rainfall was …..….... 98.4 mm (which is 4.02 mm Below average) The Highest Daily Rainfall was ..………. 29.3 mm (recorded on the 20th) MISCELLANEOUS: (Number Of) Rain Days ……... 11 Avg = 9.17 Thunderstorms ….. 4 Avg = 5.75 Distant Ts’s …..… 4 Avg = 7.00 Dew Days …….. 17 Avg = 19.67 Fog Days ……...…5 Avg = 6.00 Frost Days …….... 0 Avg = 0.00 SEASONAL STATISTICS: (Spring 2001) The Average Max Temp was .……..... 24.75 oC (which is 0.15 oC Below average) The Average Min Temp was ..………. 11.42 oC (which is 0.16 oC Below average) The Total Spring Rainfall was …….… 168.1 mm (which is 63.08 mm Below average) The Total Number of Rain days was … 23 days (which is 2.83 days Below average) RECENT ADDITIONS TO STATISTICS LIST 1. I finally succumbed to my own pressure and decided to create long-term average data for Air Pressure. This is already added to all of my Set Time Data records. I record Set Time Data at 12am, 9am, 3pm, 6pm & 9pm. 2. A graph of the long term average air pressure has also been created for all of the times listed above (ie 5 new graphs). I have also set up 2 other air pressure graphs to show air pressure trends throughout the year on a twice-monthly scale (24 data points per year, or 120 per year as I have done this for all Set Time Data. 3. I have also added several new columns to show highest and lowest averages recorded for Set Time Data. These include: Air Temperature, Humidity, Dew-Point Temperatures, Air Pressure, Wind Speed & Wind Chill Temperatures. NOTE: I still average virtually all of my weather data twice monthly, along with the standard monthly period. No Random Weather Data Additions have been made.



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From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: today's watch areas Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:33:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2001 13:40:19.0634 (UTC) FILETIME=[357E2120:01C18180] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Harald and all, What a day this turned out to be. It held so much promise and delivered quite a lot for some....... Unfortunately someone (being me) was to kick a footy through the windscreen of one of the chase cars on this morning so our chase vehicle was out of action and we missed at least 1 supercell (being the LP right mover near Mullaley). Overall a very disappointing and depressing day as the storms really were quite good (although the drier air was definitely noticeable with most of the rain evaporating from storms leaving mostly hail falling from them). Macca ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: aus-wx: today's watch areas > > People (in the field), > > A peristent area of convection (MCS) is apparent in the 02:10 UTC Brisbane > radar composite, and earlier in the 23:32 UTC VIS. It is located S of > the half-way mark along a line between Gladstone (QLD) and Emerald (QLD). > > The 23:32 VIS image suggests that this MCS is part of linear forcing along > extending S through Tamworth. Further S (unless significant backing of the > low-level flow occurs) the moisture depth looks scary. At 2300 UTC, MOR moisture > was too shallow and the wind field was weak (despite LI=-6.4); BBN had slightly > better moisture with weak winds, BRK had decent moisture with bad winds and > bad lapse rates. > > The compromise might lie in the Roma to Moree region. The latest > radar seems to suggest a line of convection (running NNW - SSE) forming W of Roma (2:10 UTC) > and down to W of Narrabi (2:50 UTC). Further S the shallow moisture worries me a little, > despite the current better reflectivities. > > The MCS further N is moving NE into good moisture (towards NRK), but bad winds. > > Harald > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 00:06:43 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, If anything I think this would have been more like a MCS situation, with light rain during the entire time with lightning and thunder, but with scattered-widespread cells in the main MCS moving overhead. I don't know what it looked like on sat pic though, it seemed very long - but I don't know if it just seemed wider because of the way cells were developing? The convergence line was awesome - I'd never seen such a defined one before! AC Andrew wrote: > > Sorry for the belated reply to this Harald - I have just returned from 3 > weeks of chasing. > > I was chasing this day with a few of the boys out between Roma and St George > where we witnessed one of the most AWESOME lightning displays ever (its been > dubbed "flang fest 2001"). I was watching the video of this earlier today > and the early parts of the day showed some strong capping but Anthony > Cornelius and I came across a well defined convergence line between Roma and > Mitchell which looked to help break the cap (well - started to eat away at > it) when we were merely 5km from it with the time being about 1pm EST. TCu > along this line steadily grew into the storms which later produced this > phenomenal lightning show. As for supercells, I'm not sure (and somewhat > doubt) that any of the storms we saw were supercells. The sky seemed > somewhat cluttered with storms in our area rather than having more isolated > convection - there were some largish storms in terms of height (with > estimates of about 40,000ft) in the area but nothing really shouted > "supercell" at me. I haven't seen any radar or sat pics from that day but I > wouldn't be surprised if the convergence line we played that day was not > *the* convergence line as I vaguely (very) recall seeing storms develop > further W than this line. Apart from the extreme lightning from those > storms they also produced some heavy rainfall and some slightly strong winds > (not severe). There was one slightly suspicious dust spin up kicked up by a > cell closer to St George as witnessed by Matt Smith and James Harris but I > think it was decided that it was not tornadic. The only other thing which > was marginally interesting was a brief lowering under the flanking line of a > cell SSE of Roma which I have on video but would very much hesitate to call > it anything but interesting scud. > > Its always interesting to read your emails to the list Harald - keep them > coming. > > Regards, > > Andrew McDonald > (Macca) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Harald Richter > To: Aussie Weather > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:58 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup > > > > > Storm connoisseurs: > > > > NSW and QLD had a classic severe weather setup last Saturday (24 Nov 01). > > It was the best setup I have seen in Australia this year. > > I am (almost) amazed that there weren't any tornado reports. > > > > The 0500 UTC surface chart shows a clear moisture boundary running > > from Sydney to Moree to Charleville, with good surface dewpoints > > (15 C upwards) E of that boundary. Generally the surface winds > > shifted from NW to NNE when crossing that boundary from the W, i.e. > > I'd expect some low-level convergence. > > > > SSY showed more than 200 hPa of 8+ g/kg of moisture at 0400 UTC > > (special sounding !!??) with the winds turning from 25/010 at the > > surface to 65/270 at 500 --> that is a potent hodograph and a > > ~70 knot shear vector! Mid-level lapse rates were close to > > dry adiabatic accounting for an eyeballed > > 2000 J/kg of CAPE for the 50mb mean surface parcel. > > The wind field had no weaknesses. The only caveat was some > > capping at low levels, requiring deep lift to get parcels to > > their LFC. > > > > The 2300 UTC MOR sounding also showed deep moisture, great turning > > of a consistenty stout flow and promising lapse rates. > > > > 2300 UTC BCV had a hellofa cap at 850, but had 150 hPa of 12 g/kg > > leading to an eyeballed 4000 J/kg of CAPE. Gasp! > > In other words, BCV had LI = -7. > > > > The cap obviously broke later with a line of supercells stretching from > > N of Newcastle all the way Charleville and beyond. Why do I think > > supercells? The shear in the soundings is sufficient, the CAPE is > > ample, good turning of the winds, enough ll moisture and all > > cells had 55+ dBZ reflectivities. The cell N of Newcastle > > was a classic left-mover, consistent with the 0400 UTC anticlockwise > > hodograph out of SSY. VIS showed large cold anvils. > > > > Maybe there'll be some more reports trickling in ... > > > > Harald > > > > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Harald Richter > > BMRC > > PO Box 1289K > > Melbourne VIC 3001 > > Australia > > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: Weather Temps. Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 10:17:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Guys, Does any one know a web page where i'm able to find recent temperatures from the past week. Thanks Jason +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:18:56 +1100 (EST) From: Grant B Subject: Re: aus-wx: Regular monthly weather summaries To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just to let everybody know, my weather summaries are not set out anything like this. I apologise for that shocker of an e-mail. Grant --- Grant B wrote: > G'Day, If anybody would like me to send them a copy of my regular monthly weather summary from Raymond Terrace, then just send an e-mail to pk4260 at idl.net.au (that is if you do not already receive a copy)A copy of my latest (November) summary can be found below. NOVEMBER 2001 Weather Report, Climatic conditions Recorded from Raymond Terrace Using a WM-918 Electronic Weather Station, and Nylex Rain Gauge 1000.© 2001 by: Grant > Burgess Circulation: 21 + > Frequency: Monthly Issue #: 71 My Daily Min/Max Air Temperatures & Rainfall Readings can be Found Weekly in the Port Stephens Examiner. > Circulation: 26 100 The Average Max Temp was > ……..…..... 25.32 oC (which is 0.99 oC Below > average)The Highest Max Temp was …….……..... 34.4 oC > (recorded on the 30th at 1647)The Lowest Max Temp > was ……..…......... 15.6 oC (A Record For Nov) > (recorded on the 20th at 1247)The Average Min Temp > was .………....... 13.59 oC (which is 0.04 oC Above > average! > ! > )The Highest Min Temp was ...….………... 19.1 oC > (recorded on the 26th & 27th at 0303 & 0648 > Resp.)The Lowest Min Temp was ..……................ > 7.8 oC (recorded on the 23rd at 0600)The Avg Max > Relative Humidity was ………. 87.23 % (which is 4.25 > % Below average)The Avg Min Relative Humidity was > ………. 36.07 % (which is 4.88 % Below average)The > Avg Max Dew-Point Temp was ………. 15.23 oC (which is > 1.15 oC Below average)The Avg Min Dew-Point Temp was > ………... 6.90 oC (which is 2.02 oC Below average)The > Avg Max Wind Gust was ……………. 32.06 km/h (which is > 2.33 km/h Above average)The Max Wind Gust was > …………………... 57.2 km/h (recorded from the S on the > 19th at 2041)The Avg Min Wind Chill was ……………... > 10.73 oC (which is 0.81 oC Below average)The Min > Wind Chill was …………………….. 3.0 oC (recorded on the > 19th at 2041)The Median Monthly Rainfall is …..….. > 84.45 mmThe Total Monthly Rainfall was …..….... 98.4 > mm (which is 4.02 mm Below average) The Highest > Daily Rainfall was ..………. 29.3! > ! > mm (recorded on the 20th) MISCELLANEOUS: > (Number Of)Rain Days ……... 11 Avg = > 9.17Thunderstorms ….. 4 Avg = 5.75Distant Ts’s > …..… 4 Avg = 7.00Dew Days …….. 17 Avg = > 19.67Fog Days ……...…5 Avg = 6.00Frost Days …….... > 0 Avg = 0.00SEASONAL STATISTICS: (Spring 2001)The > Average Max Temp was .……..... 24.75 oC (which is > 0.15 oC Below average)The Average Min Temp was > ..………. 11.42 oC (which is 0.16 oC Below average)The > Total Spring Rainfall was …….… 168.1 mm (which is > 63.08 mm Below average)The Total Number of Rain days > was … 23 days (which is 2.83 days Below average) > RECENT ADDITIONS TO STATISTICS LIST1. I finally > succumbed to my own pressure and decided to create > long-term average data for Air Pressure. This is > already added to all of my Set Time Data records. I > record Set Time Data at 12am, 9am, 3pm, 6pm & 9pm.2. > A graph of the long term average air pressure has > also been created for all of the times listed above > (ie 5 new graphs). I have also set up! > ! > 2 other air pressure graphs to show air pressure > trends throughout the year on a twice-monthly scale > (24 data points per year, or 120 per year as I have > done this for all Set Time Data.3. I have also > added several new columns to show highest and lowest > averages recorded for Set Time Data. These include: > Air Temperature, Humidity, Dew-Point Temperatures, > Air Pressure, Wind Speed & Wind Chill > Temperatures.NOTE: I still average virtually all of > my weather data twice monthly, along with the > standard monthly period.No Random Weather Data > Additions have been made. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Shopping- Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:10:00 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Temps. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jason, You can find max & min temps for every reporting station in Australia from the BoM Silo site. The Silo site allows access to free readings for the past two weeks. The data files can be found at http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/silo/retriver.cgi?state=nat&period=daily&data_type=clim&format_type=data#L1 I hope that may help you. Cheers, -- Tim Grugeon Maitland, NSW http://www.hunterweather.com The Weather Man wrote: >Hi Guys, > >Does any one know a web page where i'm able to find recent temperatures from >the past week. >Thanks >Jason > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Temps. Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:18:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Tim, Thats the one I was after... Regards Jason º¿º ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Grugeon" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Temps. > Hi Jason, > > You can find max & min temps for every reporting station in Australia > from the BoM Silo site. The Silo site allows access to free readings for > the past two weeks. The data files can be found at > http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/silo/retriver.cgi?state=nat&period=daily&data_ type=clim&format_type=data#L1 > > I hope that may help you. > Cheers, > > -- > Tim Grugeon > Maitland, NSW > http://www.hunterweather.com > > The Weather Man wrote: > > >Hi Guys, > > > >Does any one know a web page where i'm able to find recent temperatures from > >the past week. > >Thanks > >Jason > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:57:50 +1100 (EST) From: Grant B Subject: aus-wx: New Video Camera To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G’Day Again, I’ve just purchased a new video camera recently and am still not sure how to use it at night. So far I have not yet attempted to video any storms at night (as I’ve just been in the wrong place at the wrong time – without my camera). I am also interested in videoing xmass lights. A couple of times I have tried experimenting on street lights, but it shows up far too faint and blurry. Could anybody tell me any hints for night videoing (ie both xmas lights & storms). Thanks, Grant http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.17] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: New temporary webpage... Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:22:08 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2001 23:22:08.0689 (UTC) FILETIME=[A752F210:01C1829A] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, I've created a temporary webpage for my new pix (until I can find a halfway decent FTP client for the Mac)... http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/index.html Some of you will have already seen the pix but I've thumbnailed them and labelled them as best as my poor memory can recall :)) Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. P.S. More to be added soon... _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.36.248.17] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Kold Kimberleys...:)) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:46:17 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2001 00:46:17.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[68EB2EF0:01C182A6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Can anybody tell me what the hell this BoM map of the minimum temps in the Kimberleys is showing? ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/temperature/minave/daily/colour/history/nat/2001112820011128.gif Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Greg Spencer" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: New Video Camera Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:53:46 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If the camera has a manual focus option try using that, it will solve the problem of it being blurred or having problems focusing at night. Also some video cameras have a night filming mode, if your camera has one try using it Regards Greg -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Grant B Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:58 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: New Video Camera G’Day Again, I’ve just purchased a new video camera recently and am still not sure how to use it at night. So far I have not yet attempted to video any storms at night (as I’ve just been in the wrong place at the wrong time – without my camera). I am also interested in videoing xmass lights. A couple of times I have tried experimenting on street lights, but it shows up far too faint and blurry. Could anybody tell me any hints for night videoing (ie both xmas lights & storms). Thanks, Grant http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kold Kimberleys...:)) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:20:21 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi every1, > > Can anybody tell me what the hell this BoM map of the minimum temps in the > Kimberleys is showing? > > ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/temperature/minave/daily/colour/history/nat/2001112820011128.gif > > Cheers, > Kevin from Wycheproof. A bodgy AWS at Telfer, which managed to find its way into the analysis (and in an area as data-sparse as northern WA one bad observation can really screw up the analysis). It managed to record a max of 51 and a min around -2 before being taken offline. The plot is even more extreme, because the analysis techniques used have trouble interpolating a -2 into a field that is otherwise mostly in the 20s. I actually thought the maps had been cleaned up (we deleted the offending obs from the database a day or two later), but obviously some weren't re-run. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: shell01.TheWorld.com: dhart owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:02:03 -0500 From: David Hart To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OFF-TOPIC: FTP Client for Mac Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Kevin Phyland wrote: > Hi every1, > > I've created a temporary webpage for my new pix (until I can find a halfway > decent FTP client for the Mac)... > > http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/index.html > > Some of you will have already seen the pix but I've thumbnailed them and > labelled them as best as my poor memory can recall :)) I've always used "fetch" on the Mac. Doesn't that do it for you? -dkh- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kold Kimberleys...:)) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:05:39 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2001 03:05:39.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0B6EDD0:01C182B9] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Almost appropos of nothing, but a couple of days ago, was reading 3 pm Northern Territory observations (get a life!) and noticed a place in the Alice Springs area was reporting its precipitation as sleet.

>From: Blair Trewin
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kold Kimberleys...:))
>Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:20:21 +1100 (EST)
>
> >
> > Hi every1,
> >
> > Can anybody tell me what the hell this BoM map of the minimum temps in the
> > Kimberleys is showing?
> >
> > ftp://ftp.bom.gov.au/anon/home/ncc/www/temperature/minave/daily/colour/history/nat/2001112820011128.gif
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin from Wycheproof.
>
>A bodgy AWS at Telfer, which managed to find its way into the analysis
>(and in an area as data-sparse as northern WA one bad observation can
>really screw up the analysis). It managed to record a max of 51 and
>a min around -2 before being taken offline. The plot is even more
>extreme, because the analysis techniques used have trouble
>interpolating a -2 into a field that is otherwise mostly in the 20s.
>
>I actually thought the maps had been cleaned up (we deleted the
>offending obs from the database a day or two later), but obviously
>some weren't re-run.
>
>Blair
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> message.
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From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 23:58:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2001 13:04:02.0490 (UTC) FILETIME=[23D051A0:01C1817B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry for the belated reply to this Harald - I have just returned from 3 weeks of chasing. I was chasing this day with a few of the boys out between Roma and St George where we witnessed one of the most AWESOME lightning displays ever (its been dubbed "flang fest 2001"). I was watching the video of this earlier today and the early parts of the day showed some strong capping but Anthony Cornelius and I came across a well defined convergence line between Roma and Mitchell which looked to help break the cap (well - started to eat away at it) when we were merely 5km from it with the time being about 1pm EST. TCu along this line steadily grew into the storms which later produced this phenomenal lightning show. As for supercells, I'm not sure (and somewhat doubt) that any of the storms we saw were supercells. The sky seemed somewhat cluttered with storms in our area rather than having more isolated convection - there were some largish storms in terms of height (with estimates of about 40,000ft) in the area but nothing really shouted "supercell" at me. I haven't seen any radar or sat pics from that day but I wouldn't be surprised if the convergence line we played that day was not *the* convergence line as I vaguely (very) recall seeing storms develop further W than this line. Apart from the extreme lightning from those storms they also produced some heavy rainfall and some slightly strong winds (not severe). There was one slightly suspicious dust spin up kicked up by a cell closer to St George as witnessed by Matt Smith and James Harris but I think it was decided that it was not tornadic. The only other thing which was marginally interesting was a brief lowering under the flanking line of a cell SSE of Roma which I have on video but would very much hesitate to call it anything but interesting scud. Its always interesting to read your emails to the list Harald - keep them coming. Regards, Andrew McDonald (Macca) ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup > > Storm connoisseurs: > > NSW and QLD had a classic severe weather setup last Saturday (24 Nov 01). > It was the best setup I have seen in Australia this year. > I am (almost) amazed that there weren't any tornado reports. > > The 0500 UTC surface chart shows a clear moisture boundary running > from Sydney to Moree to Charleville, with good surface dewpoints > (15 C upwards) E of that boundary. Generally the surface winds > shifted from NW to NNE when crossing that boundary from the W, i.e. > I'd expect some low-level convergence. > > SSY showed more than 200 hPa of 8+ g/kg of moisture at 0400 UTC > (special sounding !!??) with the winds turning from 25/010 at the > surface to 65/270 at 500 --> that is a potent hodograph and a > ~70 knot shear vector! Mid-level lapse rates were close to > dry adiabatic accounting for an eyeballed > 2000 J/kg of CAPE for the 50mb mean surface parcel. > The wind field had no weaknesses. The only caveat was some > capping at low levels, requiring deep lift to get parcels to > their LFC. > > The 2300 UTC MOR sounding also showed deep moisture, great turning > of a consistenty stout flow and promising lapse rates. > > 2300 UTC BCV had a hellofa cap at 850, but had 150 hPa of 12 g/kg > leading to an eyeballed 4000 J/kg of CAPE. Gasp! > In other words, BCV had LI = -7. > > The cap obviously broke later with a line of supercells stretching from > N of Newcastle all the way Charleville and beyond. Why do I think > supercells? The shear in the soundings is sufficient, the CAPE is > ample, good turning of the winds, enough ll moisture and all > cells had 55+ dBZ reflectivities. The cell N of Newcastle > was a classic left-mover, consistent with the 0400 UTC anticlockwise > hodograph out of SSY. VIS showed large cold anvils. > > Maybe there'll be some more reports trickling in ... > > Harald > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Harald Richter > BMRC > PO Box 1289K > Melbourne VIC 3001 > Australia > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > --------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: cordelia.flexi.net.au: Host racport22.flexi.net.au [203.37.233.38] claimed to be e6y7b9 From: "Adam Cole" To: "timgibbs" , , "PETER BURKITT" , "Nathan Pik" , "Michelle Ford" , "Melissa Hughes" , "Matthew Smith" , "Leanne Ford" , "Kevin Unicomb" , "Kevin & Doreen Aldridge" , "Geoff Cole" , "garry hughes" , "Ford, Leanne" , "Clinton Taylor" , Subject: aus-wx: Virus Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:21:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Once again i have been infected by a virus. I would like to tell everyone now that i am ticked off, and i am terribly sorry about being the passer on of viruses.
 
I am currently in the process of cleaning
 
Onceagain, i am really sorry
 
Adam
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:10:44 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Virus Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Adam and others,

I received your virus this morning, but I did not open the attachment as I knew it was a virus. Just to let everyone else know, it has an attached file with the message called 'rather.exe'. If you receive this email, delete it immediately.

Cheers,
-Tim

Adam Cole wrote:
Once again i have been infected by a virus. I would like to tell everyone now that i am ticked off, and i am terribly sorry about being the passer on of viruses.
 
I am currently in the process of cleaning
 
Onceagain, i am really sorry
 
Adam

X-Originating-IP: [213.38.89.28] From: "jr" To: Subject: aus-wx: 05/11/2001 NSW/QLD Weather Charts and Data Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:55:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2001 08:55:06.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[B236F9B0:01C182EA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have some data for the 05/11/2001 NSW/QLD including high res NOAA-12 satpics, other sat pics, AVN forecasts CAPE,AVN,RH, Winds, weatherzone lighning tracker and the cobar sounding which I am about to delete. If anyone wants them, sing out now or forever hold your peace! They will be gone tomorrow! regards, John Roenfeldt +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 12 Dec 01 21:03:30 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Virus Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Adam! 12 Dec 01 15:21, you wrote to timgibbs: AC> Once again i have been infected by a virus. I would like to tell = AC> everyone now that i am ticked off, and i am terribly sorry about being AC> = the passer on of viruses. AC> AC> I am currently in the process of cleaning AC> AC> Onceagain, i am really sorry Do you have a virus scanner? If cost is an issue, try AVG Free edition (http://www.grisoft.com). Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Rain Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:42:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Has anyone seen any rain lately :-) Bussy (Rutherglen) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Carolyn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:58:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, it rained in Kurri Kurri today!!!!!!! Was overcast this morning and finally rained about 10am, but didn'tlast very long. Carolyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Rain > Has anyone seen any rain lately :-) > Bussy (Rutherglen) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:13:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com some drizzle near Taree this afternoon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 9:42 PM Subject: aus-wx: Rain > Has anyone seen any rain lately :-) > Bussy (Rutherglen) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:13:24 +1100 From: Chas & Helen Osborn Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Bussy No shortage of rain and wind here. Around 20mm for the week. The high pressure system to our west is feeding us westerly winds with weak cold fronts giving us the odd shower. Chas Strahan Tasmania Bussy wrote: > Has anyone seen any rain lately :-) > Bussy (Rutherglen) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Godsman, Andrew AG" To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rain Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:10:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com RE: aus-wx: Rain

Bussy,

It rained a fair bit during the night of 11/12, got 4.4mm from about 10:30pm to 5:30am, then another 1.5mm from 5:30am to I'd estimate 8:30am. Clear since then, but I'm hoping for some rain with storms this afternoon.

Andrew Godsman
Wollongong

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some drizzle near Taree this afternoon


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> Has anyone seen any rain lately :-)
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Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:51:33 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No mate, dry as a Salada bikky here in Honkers. We had a few days of drizzle owing to the Cuming Effect of Tropical Storm Kajiki passing to the south of us last week, but since then it's been dry. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:42:23 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Rain > Has anyone seen any rain lately :-) > Bussy (Rutherglen) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:16:24 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > No mate, > dry as a Salada bikky here in Honkers. > We had a few days of drizzle owing to the Cuming Effect of Tropical Storm > Kajiki passing to the south of us last week, but since then it's been dry. > > Phil Has the cold outbreak affecting northern China at the moment penetrated as far south as Hong Kong? Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: MCC over S Gulf of Carpentaria To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 12:52:27 +1100 (EDT) Cc: jmb at bom.gov.au From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Folks, A large MCC over the S Gulf of Carpentaria is present in the 23:32 UTC GMS-5 VIS image. The anvil is nearly round and measures several hundred kilometres in diameter!! Some of the specs are: (1) Lightning: The system is very lightning active with hundreds of strikes over a timespan of minutes. The lightning display at http://www.weatherzone.com.au/latest/Aus_Lightning.jpg shows (presumably) massive aliasing along a straight line between a GPATS sensor and the actual lightning location (unless you believe in a perfectly linear, cloud-free squall line extending from the Gulf to Bourke)! (2) Moisture: The boundary-layer airmass over the Gulf has been very good for a number of weeks now. Surface dewpoints are generally in the mid-20s (C). A region of dry surface air extends all the way up to the Gulf from the S (for the first time in weeks, IIRC). (3) Temperature: I speculate that the dry intrusion into the Gulf country is a vital ingredient for the occurence of the MCC. The 0000 UTC surface temperature shows mid-30s C at Mount Isa. To the N a pronounced moisture/temperature boundary delineates the cooler and moister Gulf airmass. The deep boundary layer to the S, along with a cross-boundary ageostropic secondary circulation (forced by a cross-boundary theta_v gradient?) might have led to the MCC initiation. (4) Mid-level flow: A weak anticyclone is apparent over the S Gulf, overlaying the N extends of the "Queensland Trough" on the surface. The winds aloft (= 500 hPa) are weak (< 20 kts), as one would expect for a classic non-severe rainy electric MCC... (5) Sounding: YBMA (Mt Isa) 23Z sounding shows steep lapse rates up to 500 hPa, and a large T/Td spread up to 700 hPa. Putting a 30/25 surface parcel from the S Gulf under the sounding gives me more CAPE than I dare mention in public ... My scientific conclusion regarding the event: Wow! Harald -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: shell01.TheWorld.com: dhart owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:20:23 -0500 From: David Hart To: aussie-weather at theworld.com Subject: aus-wx: ADMINISTRIVIA: Viruses Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There are a lot of nasty viruses kicking around, and it comes as no surprise that some of them have hit the aussie-weather mailing list. At the software company for which I work, we get a half dozen messages with virus attachments everyday. We delete them as soon as we get them. We have anti-virus programs running on every computer in the company, and we update the virus definitions regularly. The only time I got one of my machines infected was when I had not updated my anti-virus program for about a week, and one of the new, fast-spreading ones hit me. I was able to clean things up before I spread it further. I now have my A-V program update itself automatically every day, and then scan the whole system. Some of these new viruses are especially nasty. Not only will they mail themselves out to anyone in your address book, and search your files for other addresses. They will try to disable your anti-virus software and any firewall set-up you have. Some will even try to plant a back door in your computer so that it will do some hackers bidding with out your knowledge. They will spread not only through e-mail but some chat systems to. To protect yourself from getting a virus you should first get an anti-virus program, update it often and scan regularly. Windows users should never open attachments from those that they do not know, and especially avoid those with .exe .com .bat .scr and .pif extensions. There are other things that you can do to keep bad things from happening to your computers such as patches for your email program and operating systems. I don't want to start a discussion about it here as we are not aussie-anti-virus, but there is lots of information about these matters on the 'net. Jacob and I have looked at various options that we can excersise to prevent viruses from being propagated on the list. Some of them have major disadvantages. We could make the list moderated, which means that every post would have to be approved by one of us. This would be a lot of work for us, and slow down the mail. The software that checks lists for viruses doesn't actually scan each post, but looks for signs. This results in a lot of false positives, and misses some viruses, I'm also not sure if "theWorld" would let me install it on their systems. What will help however, is to enforce the ban on attachments. No signature attachments, no html, no v-cards etc. These attachemts don't really provide any benefit, and can cause a lot of problems. If anyone persists in sending these attachments they will be unsubscribed. If your system automatically adds attachments to the posts find out how to shut it off. We will also unsubscribe anyone who repeatedly sends viruses to the list. We can understand how anyone can get a virus once but more than that shows that they are not taking proper precautions against virii. Every time a virus is sent to the list there is a potential to infect a couple of hundred computers. We also do not want to start a discussion about computer security, vulnerability of the different OS's to bad things, etc. etc. Get A-V software, update it often and run it regularly, and don't just click on any attachment. Beyond that, let's get back to the discussion of weather. Speaking of which, it's been warm and dry here in Boston. At the time of year when we should be getting snow, it was 21C last week. Fortunately, it looks like the patterns may be changing. David Hart Aussie-weather List Owner +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 14:56:02 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, Blair. If you look at http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/ts/display_graph.htm? chinese=0&stn=sha you will see that the temp has dropped from 24 to 17 during the past 24 hours. The Strong Monsoon Signal is hoisted. I have been in an air-conditioned no-windows workplace all day, but I should imagine that when I do leave the building it will either be a clear sky or thin, high cloud and, as I didn't bring a jumper, it may be a little chilly walking home. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Blair Trewin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:16:24 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain > > > > No mate, > > dry as a Salada bikky here in Honkers. > > We had a few days of drizzle owing to the Cuming Effect of Tropical > Storm > > Kajiki passing to the south of us last week, but since then it's been > dry. > > > > Phil > > Has the cold outbreak affecting northern China at the moment penetrated > as far south as Hong Kong? > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: Re: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup (fwd) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:42:53 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at BoM.GOV.AU (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the ground truth, Macca and Anthony, I just looked at the 05:32 UTC VIS image again, and there appears to be too much convection to permit isolated rotating storms. I agree with Anthony on the MCS appearance of the Roma convection (as far as one can tell from a VIS image alone). In these situations you've got to find isolated convection early, before every piece of convection is gobbled up by convection city. The shear improved southwards, but appeared to be sufficient for supercells way into QLD. Without ground truth the "indicators" for supercells were mostly environment-related. The environment-storm relationship breaks down when storms begin to "create" their own environment, such as extensive areas of convections / MCSs tend to do. Cheers, Harald > Hi all, > > If anything I think this would have been more like a MCS situation, with > light rain during the entire time with lightning and thunder, but with > scattered-widespread cells in the main MCS moving overhead. I don't > know what it looked like on sat pic though, it seemed very long - but I > don't know if it just seemed wider because of the way cells were > developing? The convergence line was awesome - I'd never seen such a > defined one before! > > AC > > Andrew wrote: > > > > Sorry for the belated reply to this Harald - I have just returned from 3 > > weeks of chasing. > > > > I was chasing this day with a few of the boys out between Roma and St George > > where we witnessed one of the most AWESOME lightning displays ever (its been > > dubbed "flang fest 2001"). I was watching the video of this earlier today > > and the early parts of the day showed some strong capping but Anthony > > Cornelius and I came across a well defined convergence line between Roma and > > Mitchell which looked to help break the cap (well - started to eat away at > > it) when we were merely 5km from it with the time being about 1pm EST. TCu > > along this line steadily grew into the storms which later produced this > > phenomenal lightning show. As for supercells, I'm not sure (and somewhat > > doubt) that any of the storms we saw were supercells. The sky seemed > > somewhat cluttered with storms in our area rather than having more isolated > > convection - there were some largish storms in terms of height (with > > estimates of about 40,000ft) in the area but nothing really shouted > > "supercell" at me. I haven't seen any radar or sat pics from that day but I > > wouldn't be surprised if the convergence line we played that day was not > > *the* convergence line as I vaguely (very) recall seeing storms develop > > further W than this line. Apart from the extreme lightning from those > > storms they also produced some heavy rainfall and some slightly strong winds > > (not severe). There was one slightly suspicious dust spin up kicked up by a > > cell closer to St George as witnessed by Matt Smith and James Harris but I > > think it was decided that it was not tornadic. The only other thing which > > was marginally interesting was a brief lowering under the flanking line of a > > cell SSE of Roma which I have on video but would very much hesitate to call > > it anything but interesting scud. > > > > Its always interesting to read your emails to the list Harald - keep them > > coming. > > > > Regards, > > > > Andrew McDonald > > (Macca) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Harald Richter > > To: Aussie Weather > > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 10:58 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Saturday 24 Nov 01 Setup > > > > > > > > Storm connoisseurs: > > > > > > NSW and QLD had a classic severe weather setup last Saturday (24 Nov 01). > > > It was the best setup I have seen in Australia this year. > > > I am (almost) amazed that there weren't any tornado reports. > > > > > > The 0500 UTC surface chart shows a clear moisture boundary running > > > from Sydney to Moree to Charleville, with good surface dewpoints > > > (15 C upwards) E of that boundary. Generally the surface winds > > > shifted from NW to NNE when crossing that boundary from the W, i.e. > > > I'd expect some low-level convergence. > > > > > > SSY showed more than 200 hPa of 8+ g/kg of moisture at 0400 UTC > > > (special sounding !!??) with the winds turning from 25/010 at the > > > surface to 65/270 at 500 --> that is a potent hodograph and a > > > ~70 knot shear vector! Mid-level lapse rates were close to > > > dry adiabatic accounting for an eyeballed > > > 2000 J/kg of CAPE for the 50mb mean surface parcel. > > > The wind field had no weaknesses. The only caveat was some > > > capping at low levels, requiring deep lift to get parcels to > > > their LFC. > > > > > > The 2300 UTC MOR sounding also showed deep moisture, great turning > > > of a consistenty stout flow and promising lapse rates. > > > > > > 2300 UTC BCV had a hellofa cap at 850, but had 150 hPa of 12 g/kg > > > leading to an eyeballed 4000 J/kg of CAPE. Gasp! > > > In other words, BCV had LI = -7. > > > > > > The cap obviously broke later with a line of supercells stretching from > > > N of Newcastle all the way Charleville and beyond. Why do I think > > > supercells? The shear in the soundings is sufficient, the CAPE is > > > ample, good turning of the winds, enough ll moisture and all > > > cells had 55+ dBZ reflectivities. The cell N of Newcastle > > > was a classic left-mover, consistent with the 0400 UTC anticlockwise > > > hodograph out of SSY. VIS showed large cold anvils. > > > > > > Maybe there'll be some more reports trickling in ... > > > > > > Harald > > > > > > -- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Harald Richter > > > BMRC > > > PO Box 1289K > > > Melbourne VIC 3001 > > > Australia > > > ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > > > fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > > > email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > > > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Harald Richter BMRC PO Box 1289K Melbourne VIC 3001 Australia ph: +61 3 9669 4501 fax: +61 3 9669 4660 email: h.richter at bom.gov.au url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm --------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:16:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: MCC over S Gulf of Carpentaria Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Harald and All. I have put a multi-spectral satpic loop of the development of this rather impressive looking storm on my website at http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm below the tropics animation. Will leave it there for a day or so. Regards, Carl. >Folks, > >A large MCC over the S Gulf of Carpentaria is present in the >23:32 UTC GMS-5 VIS image. The anvil is nearly round and measures >several hundred kilometres in diameter!! > >Some of the specs are: > >(1) Lightning: The system is very lightning active with hundreds of strikes > over a timespan of minutes. The lightning display at > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/latest/Aus_Lightning.jpg > > shows (presumably) massive aliasing along a straight line >between > a GPATS sensor and the actual lightning location (unless you > believe in a perfectly linear, cloud-free squall line >extending from the > Gulf to Bourke)! > >(2) Moisture: The boundary-layer airmass over the Gulf has been very > good for a number of weeks now. Surface dewpoints are >generally > in the mid-20s (C). A region of dry surface air extends all > the way up to the Gulf from the S (for the first time in >weeks, IIRC). > >(3) Temperature: I speculate that the dry intrusion into the Gulf country is > a vital ingredient for the occurence of the MCC. The >0000 UTC surface > temperature shows mid-30s C at Mount Isa. To the N a > pronounced moisture/temperature boundary delineates the > cooler and moister Gulf airmass. The deep boundary layer >to the S, > along with a cross-boundary ageostropic secondary >circulation > (forced by a cross-boundary theta_v gradient?) might have >led to the > MCC initiation. > >(4) Mid-level flow: A weak anticyclone is apparent over the S Gulf, >overlaying > the N extends of the "Queensland Trough" on the surface. > The winds aloft (= 500 hPa) are weak (< 20 kts), as one > would expect for a classic non-severe rainy electric >MCC... > >(5) Sounding: YBMA (Mt Isa) 23Z sounding shows steep lapse rates up to >500 hPa, and > a large T/Td spread up to 700 hPa. Putting a 30/25 surface > parcel from the S Gulf under the sounding gives me more > CAPE than I dare mention in public ... > >My scientific conclusion regarding the event: Wow! > >Harald > >-- >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Harald Richter >BMRC >PO Box 1289K >Melbourne VIC 3001 >Australia >ph: +61 3 9669 4501 >fax: +61 3 9669 4660 >email: h.richter at bom.gov.au >url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm >--------------------------------------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 01:36:31 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List , Wx-Chase , Lightning List Subject: aus-wx: Thunder Downunder 2001 Report 21-24 November Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, The first four days of TDU 2001 are up on my site for the 21st to the 24th of November: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/01-02/ All of the capture's are Macca's. The 24th as a ton of lightning captures! Any feedback/suggestions greatly appreciated! Enjoy! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunder Downunder 2001 Report 21-24 November Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:25:06 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Woah! That was good one. I like lightning capture shots, unreal. Other images were good. Well done on TDU storms chaser! From Nathan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" ; "Wx-Chase" ; "Lightning List" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 2:06 AM Subject: aus-wx: Thunder Downunder 2001 Report 21-24 November > Hi all, > > The first four days of TDU 2001 are up on my site for the 21st to the > 24th of November: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/01-02/ > > All of the capture's are Macca's. The 24th as a ton of lightning > captures! > > Any feedback/suggestions greatly appreciated! > > Enjoy! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 03:32:26 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
There are latest sunset image I am putting on my temp page.
 
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 06:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: David Hart Apparently-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Received: from TheWorld.com (pcls2.std.com [199.172.62.104]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22358 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 02:51:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from hotmail.com (f68.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.68]) by TheWorld.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21235 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 02:51:13 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:51:07 -0800 Received: from 203.109.252.18 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:51:07 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.109.252.18] From: "steven williams" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Stable Weather Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 07:51:07 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2001 07:51:07.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC7A46C0:01C183AA] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Seems to be very stable outside of the tropics at the moment. Why does the Sydney Metro forecast always seem to mention the chance of an afternoon storm? Is this accurate forecasting? I think if you live close to the blue Mtns it might be. Weather in New Zealand has been stable lately although we had a weak thundery shower in Auckland this morning ahead of a freash sw change. 8pm wx Ovc Sc/Cu SW08kts 17C Steve W Wx Watcher _________________________________________________________________ Join the world^Òs largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 08:47:38 +1100 (EST) From: phillip martin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: phillipmartin666 at yahoo.com.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi nathan the images that you have loaded to jpq format are not loading try changeing the format to jpj and see if that works!!

phill........... 

  Nathan Thompson <pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Hi,
 
There are latest sunset image I am putting on my temp page.
 



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Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 09:16:13 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great photos there Nathan !!! Best sunset photos I have seen from you! well done :)

And Anthony, great stuff with the TDU report, cant wait for the rest!

Matt Smith

Nathan Thompson wrote:

Hi, There are latest sunset image I am putting on my temp page. http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201a.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201b.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201c.jpg and http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201a.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201b.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201c.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201d.jpghttp://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201e.jpg Enjoy. :)From Nathan.
From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: Media Release - Dungong Storms - Country Energy To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 10:11:57 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 14/12/2001 10:11:58 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Media Release 14/12/2001 Devastating electrical storm hits Dungog area As the mop-up starts and Dungog residents take stock of their losses, Country Energy's repair crews are breathing a sigh of relief, having worked through the night to restore power to more than 1000 customers affected by last night's devastating electrical storm. Regional General Manage Peter Bereicua said field staff battled the severe conditions all night to repair dozens of isolated problems, including restringing more than 10 spans of fallen powerlines at the peak of the emergency. The majority of problems related to trees, roofing and debris being thrown into the powerlines by the lightning, torrential rain and gale-force winds. "Our staff have described last night's storm as the worst they've ever seen," Mr Bereicua said. "Thankfully, we were able to restore power to 95 per cent of customers by 11pm, just under four hours after the storm hit. "Most of the remaining customers had their power restored by 6.30am. "There are still three or four customer without power, however, staff have been dispatched and we expect these individual problems will be repaired very shortly." Affected areas included Dungog, Brandon Grove, Wallarobba, Wangat and surrounding areas. 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Country Energy's Regional General Manager Peter Bereicua explained that the fault occurred whilst Transgrid staff were upgrading circuit breakers in the substation. The outage occurred at 9.45pm and all customers had their power restored by 10.45pm. "While Country Energy's network was operating effectively at the time, the fault prevented power from being distributed from the Transgrid substation to our power supply network," Mr Bereicua said. "This was an incident beyond Country Energy's control, however, we apologise for any inconvenience to customers," Mr Bereicua said. Transgrid is the NSW electricity transmission authority, which transmits power from the generators in the Hunter Valley to electricity distributors throughout NSW (Embedded image moved to file: pic23281.gif) ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. 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Hi all,
I'm off to a 'Science Forum' in a few weeks and for it I need to do a presentation. I was planning on doing it on the 'Morning Glory Cloud' in northern Australia. If anyone has any information or anywhere I could find some decent information on it's formation (and the time to reply) it would be greatly appreciated!!
 
 
Thanks!!
-Kristi-


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From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: 'Morning Glory Cloud'-HELP Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:36:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
Laurier
 
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Kristi Samphier
Sent: Friday, 14 December, 2001 12:16 AM
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Hi all,
I'm off to a 'Science Forum' in a few weeks and for it I need to do a presentation. I was planning on doing it on the 'Morning Glory Cloud' in northern Australia. If anyone has any information or anywhere I could find some decent information on it's formation (and the time to reply) it would be greatly appreciated!!
 
 
Thanks!!
-Kristi-


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From: "Ben Tichborne" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: aussie-weather-digest V1 #1251 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 14:04:16 +1300 Organization: Private X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > No shortage of rain and wind here. Around 20mm for the week. The high pressure > system to our west is feeding us westerly winds with weak cold fronts giving > us the odd shower. > > Chas > Strahan Tasmania I hear it's been pretty wintry in Tasmania lately - coldest start to summer on record (?) and snow having to be cleared from road to summit of Mt Wellington a few days ago. (how low did it fall?) Hasn't been too warm here lately either (though with a few days in the mid 20s), but high pressure is now over us, so we can get several days of sunshine. Ben Christchurch NZ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "nandina morris" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:00:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Nathan - thank you - those pictures are wonderful. Phill - give them time to download - I thought as you did that they would not appear, but having seen Matthew's response I tried again. Left the blank screen for a bite to eat and came back to find it filling up with color. Try again, I'm sure it's worth waiting for. Cheers, Nandina ----- Original Message ----- From: Nathan Thompson To: Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. Hi, There are latest sunset image I am putting on my temp page. http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201a.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201b.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201c.jpg and http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201a.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201b.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201c.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201d.jpg http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201e.jpg Enjoy. :) >From Nathan. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:41:39 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 14/12/2001 01:41:39 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1328 on Friday the 14th of December 2001 The Bureau of Meteorology in Sydney has issued a Severe Thunderstorm Advice for people in the following weather forecast districts: Mid-North Coast Hunter Northern Rivers, southwest of a line from Tabulam to Yamba Northern Tablelands, south of Tenterfield and Tabulam and the Bruxner Highway Northwest Slopes, south of a line from Gunnedah to Manilla ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. 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Mag 1992 Vol & Pge 21-59 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Cc: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 'Morning Glory Cloud'-HELP Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 16:32:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Kristi
 
It's so funny that this topic should be asked for as I accidentally came across some material on it just recently.  Here are some sites to help out :)
 
Love
Sha
 

Morning Glory

 Surfing a mile high, 1000 km wave

Spectacular, rare, and awesomely powerful, 
the Morning Glory of the Gulf of Carpentaria in Northern Australia is a magnet for growing numbers of soaring pilots and scientists.  Unique in all the world and shrouded in mystery, the Morning Glory arrives regularly each spring.
 
A Guide to the Morning Glory
and the Gulf of Carpentaria

A collection of articles about soaring the Morning Glory, some technical and some decidedly not. There is a modest collection of images of the wave cloud, including a quite amazing satellite picture. There are several articles on Burketown and the Gulf of Carpentaria, including a couple of historical pieces on Sweers Island and the Investigator Tree, and there is quite a lot of information about Far North Queensland and outback Australia. There are pages on various Gulf locations including Undara Lava Tubes and Lawn Hill Gorge, quite a few links to fauna and flora information, and of course the site wouldn't be complete without a page or two on the ubiquitous canetoad. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~brough/

Burke Shire Council
Burketown - Home of the Morning Glory

http://www.burkeshirecouncil.com/morningglory.htm

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: aus-wx: 'Morning Glory Cloud'-HELP

Hi all,
I'm off to a 'Science Forum' in a few weeks and for it I need to do a presentation. I was planning on doing it on the 'Morning Glory Cloud' in northern Australia. If anyone has any information or anywhere I could find some decent information on it's formation (and the time to reply) it would be greatly appreciated!!
 
 
Thanks!!
-Kristi-


 
 

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Embedded Content: glory.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,5a607201 Embedded Content: sitelogo2.gif: 00000001,00000001,00000000,6e45a28b Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:26:59 +1100 (EST) From: phillip martin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: phillipmartin666 at yahoo.com.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hi Nathen no luck still i left it go for 5 min and it still won't download a server message came up saying it could not open the page try again later!! mmmmmmm i don't know what to do but i have saved them so i mite try them on a freinds computer and get back to you bye for now!! phill....... --- nandina morris wrote: > Nathan - thank you - those pictures are wonderful. > Phill - give them time > to download - I thought as you did that they would > not appear, but having > seen Matthew's response I tried again. Left the > blank screen for a bite to > eat and came back to find it filling up with color. > Try again, I'm sure > it's worth waiting for. > Cheers, > > Nandina > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nathan Thompson > To: > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:02 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp > page. > > > Hi, > > There are latest sunset image I am putting on my > temp page. > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201a.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201b.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201c.jpg > > and > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201a.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201b.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201c.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201d.jpg > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201e.jpg > > Enjoy. :) > >From Nathan. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Heavy rain in Sydney Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:52:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
22 millimetres in 45 minutes in Seven Hills already today..at its peak it went into the pink on the radar..
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 05:51:56 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I found that if I clicked on the links in the e-mail message they would never download even if I went to lunch. However, if I cut and pasted them into the address bar of the browser, they downloaded in seconds. I don't know why, since the link in the e-mail was exactly the same as what I cut and pasted, but they sure are great photographs and well worth the trouble to view them. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: phillip martin To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:26:59 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp page. > hi Nathen no luck still i left it go for 5 min and it > still won't download a server message came up saying > it could not open the page try again later!! > mmmmmmm i don't know what to do but i have saved > them so i mite try them on a freinds computer and get > back to you > bye for now!! > > phill....... > > > > > --- nandina morris wrote: > > Nathan - thank you - those pictures are wonderful. > > Phill - give them time > > to download - I thought as you did that they would > > not appear, but having > > seen Matthew's response I tried again. Left the > > blank screen for a bite to > > eat and came back to find it filling up with color. > > Try again, I'm sure > > it's worth waiting for. > > Cheers, > > > > Nandina > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nathan Thompson > > To: > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:02 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: Latest sunset image on my temp > > page. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > There are latest sunset image I am putting on my > > temp page. > > > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201a.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201b.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/091201c.jpg > > > > and > > > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201a.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201b.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201c.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201d.jpg > > http://severestorm.tripod.com/Temp/131201e.jpg > > > > Enjoy. :) > > >From Nathan. > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping > - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:05:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
 
Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....
From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Real time weather & updates Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:07:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Two states (Queensland & Victoria) now have 'Current Weather' pages. James Chambers has one covering Queensland at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/brisbane_info.htm adn MSC has one covering Victoria (with a national summary) at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm There's another one almost up for Queensland too. **** Anyone going to do one up for the other states? These are brilliant for those who are ridiculously busy & can only grab a glimpse of the conditions. I've included some information & the report on the 1998 Sydney - Hobart Yacht Race along with all of the information on the 1999 Sydney Hailstorm that I've been able to collect. Information can be found liinked on MSC's 'Why Is It So' page http://www.stormchasers.au.com/why.htm Luke Garde (Clifton Springs) sent one of his images for inclusion on the 'Amazing Images' page (see http://www.stormchasers.au.com/vicimages.htm ) - Luke, keep sending them - no instructions needed - just send me images....and the same goes for the rest of the inhabitants of Victoria who'd like to see their photos up there (Tim Eckert - you are a likely candidate!!) - please send in your photos. PS: does anyone have a good photo of a horseshoe vortex? Back to the stratocu..............and the Xmas puddings. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:29:41 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Everyone is getting so caught up in this "getting ready for Christmas" madhouse, that even something as important as weather gets shoved on the back burner. Especially if you have four kids in the house like I have. This is the first chance I have had to check my e-mail since 05:00 yesterday, and the only reason I can get online now is because the kids are still asleep. Aside from the mad rush, there just might not be much real weather happening. No rainfall here for a week. It's 06:29am here, 18 degrees (constant since 11:00 yesterday) and 75% humidity. MSLP has fallen from 1028 to 1022 hPa, wind from SE at 3 km/h, sky covered with thin high cloud, and it's still pitch black, being mid-winter. Yawn! I might go back to bed for an hour until the kids wake me up. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:05:31 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall > 30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event... > > Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail > but appears to be sending OK..... > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:40:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm getting them ok. Just nothing happening around here to report. You've had more rain in one day than I've had in the last two months. 7.1 this month and 12mm last month.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall

30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
 
Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:22:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
20mm at Krambach yesterday
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:05 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall

30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
 
Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....
X-Originating-IP: [152.91.9.46] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 10:56:14 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2001 23:56:14.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[148BE040:01C185C4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

It is quiet.  Not much action.  There's is a bit of stuff going on at the forums at 'www.weatherzone.com.au'.  People seem to have decamped and gone over there, of late.

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "Weather list"
>Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall
>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:05:31 +1100
>
>30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
>
>Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....


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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 09:53:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, Not much different in Brisbane actually, it is almost 10:00 am and just 18.5C (Mt Crosby), about 90% humid and its supposed to be mid-summer (reaches for woolly cardigan) sigh. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:30 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall Everyone is getting so caught up in this "getting ready for Christmas" madhouse, that even something as important as weather gets shoved on the back burner. Especially if you have four kids in the house like I have. This is the first chance I have had to check my e-mail since 05:00 yesterday, and the only reason I can get online now is because the kids are still asleep. Aside from the mad rush, there just might not be much real weather happening. No rainfall here for a week. It's 06:29am here, 18 degrees (constant since 11:00 yesterday) and 75% humidity. MSLP has fallen from 1028 to 1022 hPa, wind from SE at 3 km/h, sky covered with thin high cloud, and it's still pitch black, being mid-winter. Yawn! I might go back to bed for an hour until the kids wake me up. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Christmas 2001 forecasts Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 19:03:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, Here's the first of the Xmas forecasts from an article in The Weekend Australian this weekend. Haydon Walker is the son of the late Lennox Walker. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/web.JPG hmmm....... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney - Hobart BoM site Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:19:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com They have activated the Sydney - Hobart site in preparation for the big race. http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/sp_ev/sydhob.shtml/ Temporary User Account: sydhob Password: sydhob01 -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:28:55 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List , Lightning List , Wx-Chase Subject: aus-wx: Some New Photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Ok - I've uploaded a couple of photos from before TDU and also others from TDU. They start in a new gallery on my site (10), the URLs are: http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/10.html and http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/11.html Hope you like them! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas 2001 forecasts Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:35:30 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks jane. It was a bit hard to read.... Darwins forecast wasnt that hard really. Actually I think Darwins Xmas Day will be mainly fine with chance of afternoon storm, mainly in the rural area. Theres my tip. I hope Im drastically wrong.... Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas 2001 forecasts > Afternoon all, > > Here's the first of the Xmas forecasts from an article in The Weekend > Australian this weekend. Haydon Walker is the son of the late Lennox > Walker. > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/web.JPG > > > hmmm....... > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.252.19] From: "steven williams" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cc: nzstorm at ihug.co.nz Subject: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:26:07 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Dec 2001 06:26:08.0426 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C3DC0A0:01C185FA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi there, Auckland airport recorded 56mm overnight, the weather breaking to give us a fine day today but heavy rain is possible again tomorrow. I noticed a line of thunderstorms over the lower central North island this afternoon. Towns like Palmerston North will get a good deluge. These storms have been triggered by heat and local wind convergence. 7pm weather NE05kts 4/8 Cu/Sc Temp22C R/H 70% Cheers from Auckland Steven Williams _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:06:50 +1300 From: Gregg Ward User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Steven, Yes we did get a good dumping of rain yesterday afternoon, from these thunderstorms. My rain gauge showed 24mm of rain from a storm that went for just over 1 hour. There wasn't much lightning from these storms, just the odd clap of thunder approximately every 3-5mins. I am hoping for some more thunderstorms today, as we have already had a few heavy showers this morning, with the temperature at 11:00am being 20C with 79%RH and very overcast. Where abouts did you view the line of storms, was it the radar images available from the NZ Met Service? Regards Gregg Ward Palmerston North steven williams wrote: > Hi there, > Auckland airport recorded 56mm overnight, the weather breaking to give > us a fine day today but heavy rain is possible again tomorrow. > I noticed a line of thunderstorms over the lower central North island > this afternoon. Towns like Palmerston North will get a good deluge. > These storms have been triggered by heat and local wind convergence. > > 7pm weather NE05kts 4/8 Cu/Sc Temp22C R/H 70% > Cheers from Auckland > Steven Williams > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p399-tnt8.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.214.145] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Cc: "Steven Williams" Subject: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:15:46 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Greg
Good to get a report from on the ground. I observed this storm at the following site
I like this particular satellite imagery because it shows good detail.
There are currently no storms down your way today because its too cloudy and I notice your 3pm temperature
was only 20C dewpoint 18C. Yesterday I believe Palmerston North was 27C.
looks like we will have this low hanging around all week so there is an ongoing risk of cb development, mainly
over the high country.
Auckland weather 6pm E05kts Ovc Temp22C R/H 70% Baro 1007hpa.
Regards
Steven Williams
From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: SST. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 17:49:51 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Would any one be able to help me in finding somewhere that has upto date Sea Surface Temps.
Thanks
Jason
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SST. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 19:16:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Jason,
 
try these sites
 
from the BoM
http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/sp_ev/sydhob.shtml/

Temporary User Account: sydhob
Password: sydhob01
 
SST's are available
 
from CSIRO Msarine Research
with instructions
 
Jane
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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: SST.

Hi all,
 
Would any one be able to help me in finding somewhere that has upto date Sea Surface Temps.
Thanks
Jason
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X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:17:01 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:26 16/12/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hi there, >Auckland airport recorded 56mm overnight, the weather breaking to give us a >fine day today but heavy rain is possible again tomorrow. >I noticed a line of thunderstorms over the lower central North island >this afternoon. Towns like Palmerston North will get a good deluge. >These storms have been triggered by heat and local wind convergence. > >7pm weather NE05kts 4/8 Cu/Sc Temp22C R/H 70% >Cheers from Auckland >Steven Williams > > Nothing much down here in in the Mainland (as usually is) although I did notice some purple blobs on the radar over central North Otago. Don't know what like further south as the Rakaia radar does not cover Otago. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: SST. Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:20:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Jane,
That is what i'm after but there is one problem... The SST graph only goes so far up the QLD coast... And I want to find the Temp further up the coast : (
If there is any other chart that goes further up the coast could you please let me know....
Thanks again
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: SST.

Jason,
 
try these sites
 
from the BoM
http://www.bom.gov.au/reguser/sp_ev/sydhob.shtml/

Temporary User Account: sydhob
Password: sydhob01
 
SST's are available
 
from CSIRO Msarine Research
with instructions
 
Jane
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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at stormchasers.au.com
 
Melbourne Storm Chasers
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
ASWA - Victoria
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:49 PM
Subject: aus-wx: SST.

Hi all,
 
Would any one be able to help me in finding somewhere that has upto date Sea Surface Temps.
Thanks
Jason
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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:56:28 +1100 (EST) From: Grant B Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Video Camera To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Steve, Thanks for replying. Just tonight I went for a drive with my family to look at xmass lights. I took the camera along and recorded about half an hours worth. As I was filming, I kept thinking that nothing would come out (I recorded the first half on normal day time settings) as the view finder wasn't showing much up. For the second half though I flicked on the 0 Lux night view switch and could then see all the lights pretty clearly (no colour differences though). When playing the footage back through the TV I was surprised at the quality and brightness that showed up using normal settings. The 0 Lux was definitely brighter and again with no colour differences (I think the worst of the two settings). Unfortunately I have still not had a chance to film any night storms (though I remain confident that we may get something over the next couple of days. Steve (or anybody), what should I expect when changing aperture/exposure settings. Thanks, Grant --- Steve Baynham wrote: > hey grant, > had any more luck on your video camera? > the night filming mode is usually called 0 lux, it > should be usefull for > filming distant storms and under very low light. > but for close storms, ie bolts of lightning close > by, teh bolt will be over > exposed. just use normal vision. but play around > with aperture/exposure > settings. > and for xmas lights, normal vision should be > sufficient. 0 lux will > exaggerate the lights too much. > hope i've helped > > > > Steve Baynham > icq : 26863574 > http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany > > Brisbane Storm Chasers > http://www.bsch.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Grant B > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:57 PM > Subject: aus-wx: New Video Camera > > > > > > G'Day Again, > > > > I've just purchased a new video camera recently > and am > > still not sure how to use it at night. So far I > have > > not yet attempted to video any storms at night (as > > I've just been in the wrong place at the wrong > time - > > without my camera). I am also interested in > videoing > > xmass lights. > > > > A couple of times I have tried experimenting on > street > > lights, but it shows up far too faint and blurry. > > Could anybody tell me any hints for night videoing > (ie > > both xmas lights & storms). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Grant > > > > > > http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping > > - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings - Send your festive greetings online! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:06:07 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Video Camera From: Intentional Server 1 To: Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Grant it really depends on the lens. For lightning etc - use your normal settings as Steve suggested. When shooting storms etc for news we run the betacam SP as if we were shooting in 'normal' conditions, often stepping up the frame rate so when the strike is replayed it looks to last longer. Tripod is a must for good lightning shots as movement/'low light lag' will result in the bigger (and better!) strikes comet tailing (ie night cricket match when floodlights creep into frame). It's also easier to track the storm's path rather than hand held. If the viewfinder is LCD don't be too worried about colour balance etc. The main thing is to get some framing. Something in the foreground with the storm in the mid/bgd will always look dramatic rather thanjust a wide shot of the sky. This is where aperure comes in. The lower the aperture (more light in) the less the depth of field (foreground focus goes soft) higher aptures increase depth of field. Also experiment with graduated filters (sky blue during electrical storms) or pink/grey for dawn clouds. Of course you can always bring the vision into your computer and adjust within a reasonable range afterwards! Regards Brian Wilson > From: Grant B > Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 01:56:28 +1100 (EST) > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Video Camera > > Steve, > > Thanks for replying. Just tonight I went for a drive > with my family to look at xmass lights. I took the > camera along and recorded about half an hours worth. > > As I was filming, I kept thinking that nothing would > come out (I recorded the first half on normal day time > settings) as the view finder wasn't showing much up. > For the second half though I flicked on the 0 Lux > night view switch and could then see all the lights > pretty clearly (no colour differences though). > > When playing the footage back through the TV I was > surprised at the quality and brightness that showed up > using normal settings. The 0 Lux was definitely > brighter and again with no colour differences (I think > the worst of the two settings). > > Unfortunately I have still not had a chance to film > any night storms (though I remain confident that we > may get something over the next couple of days. > > Steve (or anybody), what should I expect when changing > aperture/exposure settings. > > Thanks, > > Grant > > > --- Steve Baynham wrote: > hey > grant, >> had any more luck on your video camera? >> the night filming mode is usually called 0 lux, it >> should be usefull for >> filming distant storms and under very low light. >> but for close storms, ie bolts of lightning close >> by, teh bolt will be over >> exposed. just use normal vision. but play around >> with aperture/exposure >> settings. >> and for xmas lights, normal vision should be >> sufficient. 0 lux will >> exaggerate the lights too much. >> hope i've helped >> >> >> >> Steve Baynham >> icq : 26863574 >> http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany >> >> Brisbane Storm Chasers >> http://www.bsch.au.com >> >> Australian Severe Weather Association >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Grant B >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:57 PM >> Subject: aus-wx: New Video Camera >> >> >>> >>> G'Day Again, >>> >>> I've just purchased a new video camera recently >> and am >>> still not sure how to use it at night. So far I >> have >>> not yet attempted to video any storms at night (as >>> I've just been in the wrong place at the wrong >> time - >>> without my camera). I am also interested in >> videoing >>> xmass lights. >>> >>> A couple of times I have tried experimenting on >> street >>> lights, but it shows up far too faint and blurry. >>> Could anybody tell me any hints for night videoing >> (ie >>> both xmas lights & storms). >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> >>> http://shopping.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Shopping >>> - Free CDs for thousands of Priority Shoppers! >>> >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >>> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> your_email_address" in the body of your >>> message. >>> >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > http://greetings.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Greetings > - Send your festive greetings online! > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:16:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Hi all,
 
An SST map for the world is available at Weatherzone (http://www.weatherzone.com.au) under the 'Weather Charts' heading...
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of The Weather Man
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 9:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: LOW..

Hi guys,
 
A week Low has formed just of Willis Island... The BOM is predicting it to move north..
It would be good if some one could help me out in finding out what the SST is around Willis Island at the moment.
Jason
º¿º
From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:55:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst.html is a (rather nice) map for actual temps.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:17 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc

Hi all,
 
An SST map for the world is available at Weatherzone (http://www.weatherzone.com.au) under the 'Weather Charts' heading...
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of The Weather Man
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 9:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: LOW..

Hi guys,
 
A week Low has formed just of Willis Island... The BOM is predicting it to move north..
It would be good if some one could help me out in finding out what the SST is around Willis Island at the moment.
Jason
º¿º
From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:46:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Sorry...the map at WZ is if you're looking for anomalies. I'll post a link when I find one for actual temps...
 
Andrew.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:17 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc

Hi all,
 
An SST map for the world is available at Weatherzone (http://www.weatherzone.com.au) under the 'Weather Charts' heading...
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of The Weather Man
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 9:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: LOW..

Hi guys,
 
A week Low has formed just of Willis Island... The BOM is predicting it to move north..
It would be good if some one could help me out in finding out what the SST is around Willis Island at the moment.
Jason
º¿º
From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: mail on list... Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:31:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Keith, >Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail = >but appears to be sending OK. I have noticed this myself, and to tell the truth am partly to blame through my lack of emailing. I put the lull down to: 1) slow migration of many of "us" to the weatherzone http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi list (including myself, to an extent). Many other one time list members are much more active there than on aussie WX... Personally, I prefer the www based list system to the old style majordoma list, which I think uses technology which has had it day. 2) slow weather... those of us in the SE have endured a very settled couple of weeks. 3) the looming Christmas break. I suspect 1) is the major reason... Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: bmunr001 at 137.111.6.8 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:43:54 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Ben Munro Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Andrew Miskelly wrote: > http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst.html is a (rather nice) map for >actual temps. -----Original Message----- Also, http://grads.iges.org/pix/spacpot.gif and http://www.fnoc.navy.mil/products/OTIS/otis_glbl_sst.gif +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 19 Dec 01 23:00:28 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: mail on list... Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David! 19 Dec 01 13:31, you wrote to old AUSSIE WX (E-mail): DJ> I have noticed this myself, and to tell the truth am partly to blame DJ> through my lack of emailing. I put the lull down to: 1) slow migration DJ> of many of "us" to the DJ> weatherzone http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi list DJ> (including myself, to an extent). Many other one time list members are DJ> much more active there Ick, I hate web boards, as I find them a much less efficient use of time (I don't have to wait by the PC while the mail is coming in). DJ> than on aussie WX... Personally, I prefer the www based list system DJ> to No chance of having linked email/web (a la Yahoogroups) so we can get the best of both worlds? Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:54:56 +1000 To: Aussie Weather List From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: Fwd: Possible New World Record High Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >The pressure at some station in Mongolia has reached 1085.6 mb (32.06") >and is still rising. The current official world record is 1083.8 mb >(32.01") at Agata, Siberia, on 31 December 1968. I'm sure the barometer >will have to be thoroughly inspected to verify it is functioning correctly >before this reading is officially accepted by the met. community. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 21:49:46 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 18:15 17/12/01 +1300, you wrote: > Hi Greg Good to get a report from on the ground. I observed this storm >at the following site www.marine.csiro.au/~lband/weather/ I like this >particular satellite imagery because it shows good detail. There are >currently no storms down your way today because its too cloudy and I >notice your 3pm temperature was only 20C dewpoint 18C. Yesterday I believe >Palmerston North was 27C. looks like we will have this low hanging around >all week so there is an ongoing risk of cb development, mainly over the >high country. Temp22C R/H 70% Baro 1007hpa. Regards Steven Williams No good for South Island tho' although there was a good thunderstorm over Invercargill on Saturday afternoon. A report of it is below thanx to Chris Raine JohnGaul NZTS After a warm start on Saturday morning 15th December Invercargill City at Gala St experienced a sudden and spectacular thunderstorm ahead of a SW change for about 40 minutes at 2.25 pm A large band of CB's lay NW - SE over the city and then moved off towards the Catlins by 3.30 pm. There were two CB thuderstorm cells of about 20 minutes duration with the second more active than the first that kept me entertained with numerous flashes of sheet & fork lightening. 11 mm of rain fell during the storm with only 3.2 mm at the airport. The true SW arrived at 5.20 pm with 20-25 kts and no rain. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: list... Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:38:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >No chance of having linked email/web (a la Yahoogroups) so we can get the best >of both worlds? > >Tony Tony, to tell the truth that was my preferred option. I was disappointed when the egroups list was closed down earlier in the year. I think the weatherzone is a step up from the old weather list, but the loss of group control, but more importantly the flood of new subscribers and the associated information overload are certainly downsides. Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:19:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Ben... Thats is also another great map. In which I was instrsted in.. Thanks again Jason º¿º ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Munro" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:43 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc > Andrew Miskelly wrote: > > http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst.html is a (rather nice) map for > >actual temps. -----Original Message----- > > Also, http://grads.iges.org/pix/spacpot.gif > and http://www.fnoc.navy.mil/products/OTIS/otis_glbl_sst.gif > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Possible New World Record High To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:58:59 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >The pressure at some station in Mongolia has reached 1085.6 mb (32.06") > >and is still rising. The current official world record is 1083.8 mb > >(32.01") at Agata, Siberia, on 31 December 1968. I'm sure the barometer > >will have to be thoroughly inspected to verify it is functioning correctly > >before this reading is officially accepted by the met. community. > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > I'm fairly sceptical of this - the most recent analysis I looked at for the region had no isobars higher than 1050 in the area. When did this apparent observation happen, and do you know if any other sites in the region were anywhere near such a value? (High pressure tends to be pretty spatially coherent). Mongolia is mostly fairly elevated (typically 1000-2000 metres), so it's possible something may have gone wrong with the conversion to MSLP. The amount of available data from Mongolia is excellent (I'd go as far as to say that it has the best network coverage of any developing country), but I don't know anything about observation standards or instrument maintenance. Which site is recording these pressures? Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:20:23 +0000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Norman Lynagh Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Possible New World Record High X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com In message <200112192258.JAA02142 at munya.earthsci.unimelb.edu.au>, Blair Trewin writes >> >> >The pressure at some station in Mongolia has reached 1085.6 mb (32.06") >> >and is still rising. The current official world record is 1083.8 mb >> >(32.01") at Agata, Siberia, on 31 December 1968. I'm sure the barometer >> >will have to be thoroughly inspected to verify it is functioning correctly >> >before this reading is officially accepted by the met. community. >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~ >> Carl Smith. >> Gold Coast. >> Queensland. >> Australia. >> > >I'm fairly sceptical of this - the most recent analysis I looked at >for the region had no isobars higher than 1050 in the area. When did >this apparent observation happen, and do you know if any other sites >in the region were anywhere near such a value? (High pressure tends >to be pretty spatially coherent). > >Mongolia is mostly fairly elevated (typically 1000-2000 metres), so >it's possible something may have gone wrong with the conversion to >MSLP. The amount of available data from Mongolia is excellent (I'd >go as far as to say that it has the best network coverage of any >developing country), but I don't know anything about observation >standards or instrument maintenance. > >Which site is recording these pressures? > >Blair Here are the gory details: SMMO02 MNUB 181800 RRA AAXX 18180 44212 32999 01805 11355 21388 39371 40715 51008= 44213 32999 00000 11344 21396 38992 40693 52004= 44215 32998 00000 11360 21372 38574 40800 52009= 44225 319// 00000 11405 21426 38438 40856 52009 74444= 44241 329// 00000 11346 21350 39489 40644 54000= 44272 32998 01602 11309 21319 38356 40655 52013= 44302 329// 03207 11269 21293 39280 4//// 51006= 44305 32999 00000 11267 21285 39210 40543 54000= 44317 32998 00000 11191 21224 39091 40500 51005= 44352 32999 00000 11222 21269 39069 40509 58001= Norman. =================================================================== Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Tel: +44 (0)1494 870220 18 Kings Road Fax: +44 (0)1494 870221 Chalfont St. Giles Buckinghamshire E-mail:norman at weather-consultancy.com England =================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:46:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Have put up a series of video grabs of the Mullaley supercell http://www.stormchasers.au.com/30_11_01c.htm . ..... and if you see something like this http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG , the rule is the same as the first rule of the sea - Don't turn your back on it!!! I've got more to come when I get a chance. Enjoy! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:40:27 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, nice pics. What made you say this was a supercell? Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:16 PM Subject: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > Evening all, > > Have put up a series of video grabs of the Mullaley supercell > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/30_11_01c.htm . > ..... and if you see something like this > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG , the rule is the > same as the first rule of the sea - Don't turn your back on it!!! > > I've got more to come when I get a chance. > > Enjoy! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:31:37 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'll answer this one ! :) " What made you say this was a supercell? " Rotating updraughts (Visual to the eye in an environment which supported supercells), strong right mover (moving S/SSE) when everything else was moving E/NE if i recall. LP storm with lots of hail, RFD comming down kicking up dust, storm lasted longer than everything else, anvil was constantly backsheared (not that that indicates a supercell, just that it is a sign the storm is strong and severe with the strong jet that day.) ... usual LP supercell characteristics :) ... GO NSW! :-) Matt Smith +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.ihug.co.nz: Host p207-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.207] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 06:20:20 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com How large was the hail? A fantastic photo series but I have to say I'm sceptical this cloud is a supercell. I base my opinion on the lack of sign of very strong upward motion. Alot of the convection looks weak for the supercell realm. Regards Steven Williams Weather observer (Auckland) I----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Smith" To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:31 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > I'll answer this one ! :) > " What made you say this was a supercell? " > Rotating updraughts (Visual to the eye in an environment which supported > supercells), strong right mover (moving S/SSE) when everything else was moving > E/NE if i recall. LP storm with lots of hail, RFD comming down kicking up dust, > storm lasted longer than everything else, anvil was constantly backsheared (not > that that indicates a supercell, just that it is a sign the storm is strong and > severe with the strong jet that day.) ... usual LP supercell characteristics :) > ... GO NSW! :-) > > Matt Smith > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:12:38 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Steven, A supercell need not have strong convection, it is simply defined on the presence of a mesocyclone. Many "cold air supercells" have mesocyclones and are therefore supercells, and can produce tornadoes and severe weather. Yet, they often have weak updrafts. I disagree though re no strong upward motion, but I guess that is a somewhat subjective opinion! AC Steven Williams wrote: > > How large was the hail? A fantastic photo series but I have to say I'm > sceptical this cloud is a supercell. > I base my opinion on the lack of sign of very strong upward motion. Alot of > the convection looks weak > for the supercell realm. > Regards > Steven Williams > Weather observer (Auckland) > I----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Smith" > To: > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:31 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > > > I'll answer this one ! :) > > " What made you say this was a supercell? " > > Rotating updraughts (Visual to the eye in an environment which supported > > supercells), strong right mover (moving S/SSE) when everything else was > moving > > E/NE if i recall. LP storm with lots of hail, RFD comming down kicking up > dust, > > storm lasted longer than everything else, anvil was constantly backsheared > (not > > that that indicates a supercell, just that it is a sign the storm is > strong and > > severe with the strong jet that day.) ... usual LP supercell > characteristics :) > > ... GO NSW! :-) > > > > Matt Smith > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:48:20 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: Mullaley Beasty: I didn't save the data for 30 nov 01, so all I can go by as the still images (and personal accounts). Steven Williams ... > How large was the hail? A fantastic photo series but I have to say I'm > sceptical this cloud is a supercell. > I base my opinion on the lack of sign of very strong upward motion. Alot of > the convection looks weak for the supercell realm. and Paul Mossman ... > " What made you say this was a supercell? " bring up a valid issue. Keeping in mind that I am looking at a video capture (explains some of the blurring), the updraught and crisp backsheared anvil in http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon18.JPG point towards a strong updraught. I suspect the whitish appearance of the left edge of the precipitation core below the base points towards hail. The updraught tower is leaning to the right, indicating some shear. In my books this image provides three weak pieces of evidence for supercellular behaviour. Matthew Smith had something stronger ... > Rotating updraughts (Visual to the eye in an environment which supported > supercells), strong right mover (moving S/SSE) when everything else was > moving E/NE if i recall. The environmental parameters provide more weak support (strictly only indicating that supercells are possible or, perhaps, likely); visual updraught rotation, however, is a "smoking gun" which would settle the question for me. For that reason, Matt, let me probe a little further: which way was the rotation? A rightward deviant motion to me suggests counterclockwise rotation. The updraft appearance does not suggest "strong rotation" to me. > LP storm with lots of hail, Did you measure the hail size? There also appears to be an extended (weak!?) precip core to the right in http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon18.JPG; was it really an LP? > RFD comming down kicking up dust, Is that the dust I am seeing in http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG ?? Did the storm ever develop a clear slot? None of the images show one. > storm lasted longer than everything else, anvil was constantly backsheared > (not that that indicates a supercell, just that it is a sign the storm is > strong and severe with the strong jet that day.) These are more weakish indicators to me. I think Matt's visual updraught rotation, ideally supported by 2cm+ hail and/or a clear slot/definite RFD would suck me into the supercell camp. Yours eagerly expectandly, Haraldwantingittobeabigbadsupercell -- _________________________________________________________________________ Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm _________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:48:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Harald wrote: Re: Mullaley Beasty: >I didn't save the data for 30 nov 01, so all I can go by as the still images >(and personal accounts). Basic info for the day can be found here http://www.stormchasers.au.com/tdu2k+106.htm >Did the storm ever develop a clear slot? None of the images show one. Do the bottom couple of images on this page help? http://www.stormchasers.au.com/30_11_01b.htm Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:05:36 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
I gather another reason it's quiet is that posts are not getting through. I have sent three in the past week or so and none have shown up on the list. For example the one below never arrived in my inbox.
 
Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
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From: Mark Hardy [mailto:mhardy at magna.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 17 December 2001 4:35 PM
To: 'aussie-weather at world.std.com'
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rainfall

Weatherzone has been pretty quiet as well over the past few days. It seems people are just busy with the approaching silly season. :)
 
Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Sunday, 16 December 2001 10:56 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall

It is quiet.  Not much action.  There's is a bit of stuff going on at the forums at 'www.weatherzone.com.au'.  People seem to have decamped and gone over there, of late.

>From: "Keith Barnett"
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>To: "Weather list"
>Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall
>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:05:31 +1100
>
>30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
>
>Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....


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X-Originating-IP: [203.0.101.2] From: "David Croan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:01:49 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2001 01:01:50.0297 (UTC) FILETIME=[125BA490:01C189BB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My take on this storm:- as a thunderstorm it is quite beautiful, as a supercell, however, it is not impressive ie in showing off it's attributes. Nevertheless, it might well be (and probably is) a supercell thunderstorm, based on the evidence anyway, just not a jaw dropper IMO. I can only comment on what I see in the stills but that updraft doesn't really exhibit any signs of rotation; if there was any I'd imagine you would have needed time-lapse to appreciate it. The base is also rather featureless IMO; ie no groovy cow-catchers, other signs of strong inflow, no circular base, no clear slot, no striations. A visual vault is not really apparent; something you do tend to associate with an LP, granted, you guys were not in a position of high contrast - and perspective can change everything. A better example of an LP supercell, home-grown anyway, is here (you can see the vault region in the middle of the image) >> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901bw01.jpg Anyway, a beautiful storm plucked from obscurity in a beautiful part of the world! Cant ask for much more than that!. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:24:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2001 01:26:58.0823 (UTC) FILETIME=[95827170:01C189BE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David and all. I have yet to see a storm that will hold up to a 'Textbook' description i.e. all storms are unique,the textbook can only give a two dimensional aspect, out in the field as you know no two storms are alike, similar maybe. The Mullaley storm (as most) did not start as a supercell, this storm grew on the flanking line of a strong multicell to its northeast, however what set the Mullaley storm aside from every thing else on the day was this, it had a lifespan of almost two hours,on reaching the severe stage it slowed down almost became stationary then shifted to the southeast and increased its speed, this was not perspective, the main updraft core persisted for more than an hour and showed definite anticyclonic rotation evident to the eye and not through time lapse,the very short updraft core was associated with the dry environmental conditions,also the upper cirrus shield showed slow rotation. This storm was strong enough to affect the local geostrophic flow.The anticyclonic rotation may have been initiated by the mean mid to upper flow pattern. best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Croan To: Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > My take on this storm:- as a thunderstorm it is quite beautiful, as a > supercell, however, it is not impressive ie in showing off it's attributes. > Nevertheless, it might well be (and probably is) a supercell thunderstorm, > based on the evidence anyway, just not a jaw dropper IMO. > > I can only comment on what I see in the stills but that updraft doesn't > really exhibit any signs of rotation; if there was any I'd imagine you would > have needed time-lapse to appreciate it. The base is also rather featureless > IMO; ie no groovy cow-catchers, other signs of strong inflow, no circular > base, no clear slot, no striations. A visual vault is not really apparent; > something you do tend to associate with an LP, granted, you guys were not in > a position of high contrast - and perspective can change everything. > > A better example of an LP supercell, home-grown anyway, is here (you can see > the vault region in the middle of the image) >> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0901bw01.jpg > > Anyway, a beautiful storm plucked from obscurity in a beautiful part of the > world! Cant ask for much more than that!. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: SSY sounding To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:34:57 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Technically, the 20011220/1900 UTC SSY sounding is a monster with an LI of -10.5! Not so technically, the thin layer of moisture (~70 mb) fed by a N onshore flow would need to overcome a formidable near-surface inversion (CT ~ 35 C), and it would mix out substantially if it is not careful. But if Sydney reaches convective temperature today, a lot of CAPE is waiting for those surface parcels. Even the shear profile is not too shabby. 2300 UTC WLM also has LI=-8.3, derived from an even thinner surface layer of moisture. If the moisture was deeper I'd call it a loaded gun, but with the shallow moisture it could be anything between a bomb and a fizzler (provided some lift gets into the area). Waiting ... Harald -- _________________________________________________________________________ Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm _________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:33:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2001 01:35:40.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC991D70:01C189BF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Jane and all. The grab that shows the dust kicking up in a field to the left of the rotating updraft stayed put and did not move with other dust in the area, a number of comments were made about this, the cone shape on the bottom of the updraft was remarkable and visibly rotating a great shot regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane ONeill To: Aussie-wx Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 10:46 PM Subject: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > Evening all, > > Have put up a series of video grabs of the Mullaley supercell > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/30_11_01c.htm . > ..... and if you see something like this > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2K+1/1130jon24.JPG , the rule is the > same as the first rule of the sea - Don't turn your back on it!!! > > I've got more to come when I get a chance. > > Enjoy! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Line of storms in NSW To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:40:04 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com NSW has done it again, A line of storms has intiated between Bathurst and Newcastle. Although the current (14:02 EDT) lightning activity is located within the western half of that line, I am more interested in the eastern segment with better low-level moisture. I am awaiting what shallow rich moisture can do under a sounding with very good lapse rates and moderate shear. 03:10 UTC WTM radar shows gorilla convection NE of Newcastle -- that would be my storm of interest. Harald -- _________________________________________________________________________ Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm _________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Line of storms in NSW Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:58:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The sky is starting to look decidedly promising here at Mona Vale, NSW though no thunder or lightning as yet. Judy Mayo ----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Richter To: Aussie Weather Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: Line of storms in NSW > > NSW has done it again, > > A line of storms has intiated between Bathurst and Newcastle. > Although the current (14:02 EDT) lightning activity is located > within the western half of that line, I am more interested in the eastern > segment with better low-level moisture. I am awaiting what > shallow rich moisture can do under a sounding with very good lapse > rates and moderate shear. > > 03:10 UTC WTM radar shows gorilla convection NE of Newcastle -- > that would be my storm of interest. > > Harald > > -- > _________________________________________________________________________ > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > _________________________________________________________________________ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left kidney to see something like that at the moment. On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a list. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell To: aussie-weather at world.std.com (Aussie Weather) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:17:07 +1100 (EDT) From: h.richter at bom.gov.au (Harald Richter) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Now we're talking ... 03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea. The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the right-mover. Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ. Lightning rate is off the scale. BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman. Harald PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place? -- _________________________________________________________________________ Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm _________________________________________________________________________ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Possible New World Record High Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:45:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting to note that lift index in the area is something over +35C. I guess storm chasing is out. Michael > >> >The pressure at some station in Mongolia has reached 1085.6 mb (32.06") > >> >and is still rising. The current official world record is 1083.8 mb > >> >(32.01") at Agata, Siberia, on 31 December 1968. I'm sure the barometer > >> >will have to be thoroughly inspected to verify it is functioning correctly > >> >before this reading is officially accepted by the met. community. > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:43:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I harp on about micro scale geography playing a big part in weather, it is a pet interest of mine and I don't pretend to have valid scientific answers, just personal opinions, so here goes. That area is at the end of the Hunter - Stockton - Nelson Bay bight, this is the largest NE swing on the NSW coast. Dewpoints and moisture often increase significantly along this small stretch. Added to this just inland you have Barrington Tops which at 1300m is a CAP breaker. Michael > > 03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea. > The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the right-mover. > Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ. Lightning rate is off the scale. > > BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this > beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman. > > Harald > > PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is > moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just > SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place? > > -- > _________________________________________________________________________ > Harald Richter ph: +61 3 9669 4501 > Bureau of Meteorology Research Centre fax: +61 3 9669 4660 > PO Box 1289K email: h.richter at bom.gov.au > Melbourne VIC 3001, Australia > url: http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/wefor/wfstaff/hrichter.htm > _________________________________________________________________________ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:47:57 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which I can't do on a forum. So what about it list members? It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, whatever name it may or may not go by. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Phil Bagust To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > Hi all > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > That > is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several > hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left > kidney to > see something like that at the moment. > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and > may > this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I > appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a > list. > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - > - > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > knowing.." > Albert Speer > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Rainfall Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 16:35:11 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Weatherzone has been pretty quiet as well over the past few days. It seems people are just busy with the approaching silly season. :)
 
Mark Hardy
The Weather Company Pty. Ltd.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of michael king
Sent: Sunday, 16 December 2001 10:56 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rainfall

It is quiet.  Not much action.  There's is a bit of stuff going on at the forums at 'www.weatherzone.com.au'.  People seem to have decamped and gone over there, of late.

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: "Weather list"
>Subject: aus-wx: Rainfall
>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:05:31 +1100
>
>30mm at Seven Hills all up from yesterday's event...
>
>Very quiet on the list? Or do I have a problem..not getting any mail but appears to be sending OK.....


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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:40:03 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. Don White Phil Smith wrote: > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list that > the forums lack. > It's great that the forums gather a whole thread together, but you can do > that with your e-mails if you simply sort by subject. > The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which I can't do > on a forum. > So what about it list members? > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was a > bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able to > share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, whatever name > it may or may not go by. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Bagust > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > Hi all > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > > That > > is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several > > hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left > > kidney to > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and > > may > > this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I > > appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a > > list. > > > > Phil > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - > > - > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > knowing.." > > Albert Speer > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:21:34 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 03:17 PM 21/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: >Now we're talking ... > >03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea. >The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the >right-mover. >Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ. Lightning rate is off the scale. > >BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this >beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman. > >Harald > >PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is >moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just >SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place? Hi Harald, Do you know about my URL (for internal BOM access only) http://serva.sa.bom.gov.au/data/skewt/map.html You can serve up Skew-T's which at the bottom of the sounding have links for Satellite imagery, radar, metars, and HodoTool. If you look at HodoTool for William Town it's a classic straight line hodograph, perfect for splitting storms. It's a nice page for a quick look at a lot of real-time data. Cheers Hank +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:57:41 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com;donwhite at ozemail.com.au;;; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I got it, Don. And it wasn't that long ago that I was on-line sending so there can be no appreciable delay Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Don White To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:40:03 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in > past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it > either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no > problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. > Don White > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look > at > > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list > that > > the forums lack. > > It's great that the forums gather a whole thread together, but you > can do > > that with your e-mails if you simply sort by subject. > > The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which I can't > do > > on a forum. > > So what about it list members? > > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to > copy > > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was > a > > bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be > able to > > share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, whatever > name > > it may or may not go by. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Bagust > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the > moment. > > > That > > > is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within > several > > > hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left > > > kidney to > > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, > and > > > may > > > this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while > I > > > appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of > a > > > list. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - > - - > > > - > > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > > knowing.." > > > Albert Speer > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: hdewit at mail.sa.bom.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:39:57 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Hank de Wit Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Woops - that was meant to be a personal email to Harald. Appalogies to other aussie-weather users for (now) two useless emails. Hank At 04:21 PM 21/12/2001 +1030, you wrote: >At 03:17 PM 21/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi Harald, > >Do you know about my URL (for internal BOM access only) > > http://serva.sa.bom.gov.au/data/skewt/map.html > >You can serve up Skew-T's which at the bottom of the sounding have links >for Satellite imagery, radar, metars, and HodoTool. If you look at >HodoTool for William Town it's a classic straight line hodograph, perfect >for splitting storms. It's a nice page for a quick look at a lot of >real-time data. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Mark Hardy" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:07:14 +1100 Organization: The Weather Company X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind of coherent conversation almost impossible. Mark Hardy The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. http://www.theweather.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. Don White Phil Smith wrote: > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which > I can't do on a forum. > So what about it list members? > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, > whatever name it may or may not go by. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Bagust > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > Hi all > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my > > left kidney to > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the > > immediacy of a list. > > > > Phil > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > > - > > - > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > knowing.." > > Albert Speer > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:11:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com here here. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Bagust Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:13 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Hi all I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left kidney to see something like that at the moment. On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a list. Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:16:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually I vaguely thought this started out as two seperate cells, which then appeared to drift apart as they developed further. The Northern one looks like it is hugging the coast and a NE moisture feed John >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Hank de Wit Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:52 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell At 03:17 PM 21/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: >Now we're talking ... > >03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea. >The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the >right-mover. >Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ. Lightning rate is off the scale. > >BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this >beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman. > >Harald > >PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is >moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just >SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place? Hi Harald, Do you know about my URL (for internal BOM access only) http://serva.sa.bom.gov.au/data/skewt/map.html You can serve up Skew-T's which at the bottom of the sounding have links for Satellite imagery, radar, metars, and HodoTool. If you look at HodoTool for William Town it's a classic straight line hodograph, perfect for splitting storms. It's a nice page for a quick look at a lot of real-time data. Cheers Hank +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fwd: Possible New World Record High To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:22:01 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some of you will have seen this already on weatherzone or elsewhere. I did some checks of the Tosontsengel pressure against other sites, in Mongolia and elsewhere. (Tosontsengel is reasonably close to the Russian border, so Russian data is of use here). I checked eight Mongolian stations, along with two in Russia. At 1800 GMT on Wednesday, Tosontsengel was at 1084 hPa (a little below its peak). A station 150km to the SW was at 1063; of the other stations, one was 1071, one was 1066, and the others were all in the 1050s. Irkutsk and Ulan-Ude, Russia, both about 400-500km away from Tosontsengel, were both at 1035. Interestingly, the very high pressures were all associated with low temperatures. Tosontsengel was at -42 at the time, the stations in the 1063-1071 range were around -30, whilst those in the 1050s were -25 or warmer (warmer being a relative term in this context!). Furthermore, during the course of Wednesday at Tosontsengel, the pressure was in the mid-1080s through Tuesday night, then dropped to 1077 at 0600 UTC Wednesday (1300 local time - the only one of the six-hourly observations that would have been in daylight hours), then jumped into the mid-1080s again as it cooled off after sunset. Several other Mongolian stations displayed similar behaviour. Simple conclusion: the observations from Tosontsengel are highly suspect (the inferred pressure gradients of ~10hPa/100km are not credible near the centre of a large continental anticyclone). Complex conclusion: I think that what is going on is that the correction from 'as read' to station-level pressure (a correction to 0 C and standard gravity, temperature-dependent to the extent of about 1 hPa per 6 C temperature) has been multiplied by 10, so that, for example, the correction used at Tosontsengel might be 50 hPa, not 5. The problem seems to affect all Mongolian stations (but will be greater the larger the correction, and hence the lower the temperature) , so it's probably a software bug. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: "Aussie Weather List" Subject: aus-wx: Storms This Avo Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:35:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The storms in Krambach (near Taree) this afternoon are hopeless. There was a couple of 1/2 decent rumbles, a little bit of rain and it left again.
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 17:57:38 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The far NE parts of the Hunter are renowned for there supercells. Just to add to what Michael said, another possible reason for this is due to the topography of the Hunter. Winds often blow from the WNW down the main valley on hot days (often caused by the funnelling effect), however, around the Bulahdelah and northern areas of Port Stephens, winds often blow from the NE. This creates good convection and shear by the two winds interecting. Storms with a dry line a very common in this area also due to this effect.

-Tim


Michael Thompson wrote:
I harp on about micro scale geography playing a big part in weather, it is a
pet interest of mine and I don't pretend to have valid scientific answers,
just personal opinions, so here goes.

That area is at the end of the Hunter - Stockton - Nelson Bay bight, this is
the largest NE swing on the NSW coast. Dewpoints and moisture often increase
significantly along this small stretch. Added to this just inland you have
Barrington Tops which at 1300m is a CAP breaker.

Michael


03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea.
The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the
right-mover.
Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ.  Lightning rate is off the scale.

BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this
beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman.

Harald

PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is
moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just
SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place?

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From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: Extreme Temps Ahead. Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:37:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
There is Forcasted HIGH temps for Christmass Day... So it looks like the A/C will be crancked to the max : )
To all people on the Weather List, Have a good and safe Christmass.
Jason
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X-Originating-IP: [203.2.32.27] From: "Dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: CG pics - 20th in NE NSW Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:45:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Dec 2001 10:47:34.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[E636DB80:01C18A0C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
A small cell developed near Grafton last night and when reaching the coast started to produce some great CG's. Here's the pics including some of the weak action today, the 21st (photos are at the bottom of this page):
Merry Christmas!!
Dave Ellem
Wollongbar,
Northern Rivers,
NE NSW
From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:14:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Thanks Andrew... Thats what I was looking for.. : )
Thanks again
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:55 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc

http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst.html is a (rather nice) map for actual temps.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Miskelly
Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2001 9:17 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: LOW, SSTs etc

Hi all,
 
An SST map for the world is available at Weatherzone (http://www.weatherzone.com.au) under the 'Weather Charts' heading...
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of The Weather Man
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 9:41 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: LOW..

Hi guys,
 
A week Low has formed just of Willis Island... The BOM is predicting it to move north..
It would be good if some one could help me out in finding out what the SST is around Willis Island at the moment.
Jason
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From: "Steve Baynham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: CG pics - 20th in NE NSW Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 06:55:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
very nice pics dave. am heading to grafton this morning for xmas, so hopefully i will experience some similar storms this arve/tonight. se qld spose to get it later today and tomorrow.
so i wish everyone a great christmas, nd i will speak to yas end of next week
bye........ho ho ho
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: CG pics - 20th in NE NSW

Hi,
A small cell developed near Grafton last night and when reaching the coast started to produce some great CG's. Here's the pics including some of the weak action today, the 21st (photos are at the bottom of this page):
Merry Christmas!!
Dave Ellem
Wollongbar,
Northern Rivers,
NE NSW
From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 20 Dec 01 23:49:48 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: list... Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David! 20 Dec 01 08:38, you wrote to old AUSSIE WX (E-mail): DJ> Tony, to tell the truth that was my preferred option. I was DJ> disappointed when the egroups list was closed down earlier in the DJ> year. I think the weatherzone is a step up from the old weather list, If it hasn't got an email option, its useless to me. I can whip through 100 messages in a few minutes, but takes over an hour to wade through the same 100 messages on a web site. :( Well, Melbourne is finally starting to warm up. :) Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Graham" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:32:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE Issued at 1407 on Saturday the 22nd of December 2001 This advice affects people in the following weather districts: Northern Rivers Mid-North Coast Northern Tablelands, east of a line Armidale to Tabulam Hunter Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area from this afternoon. Some of these are expected to be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds and very heavy rainfall. The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: * put vehicles under cover * move indoors away from windows During and after the storm people should: * beware of fallen trees and power lines * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow down in the wet. If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm. TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for the Northern Rivers, Mid North Coast, Hunter and parts of the Northern Tablelands weather forecast districts. ____________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________________ John Graham gorzzzz at dingoblue.net.au or gorzzz at yahoo.com Icq 25440353 Member of The Australian Severe Weather Assoc. ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ Snail Mail: P.O. Box 1072 Ballina 2478 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW STA Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 15:38:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com storm is just starting to pass over Krambach now, with heavy rains ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Graham" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: aus-wx: NSW STA > > TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST > > NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice > BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY > NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE > Issued at 1407 on Saturday the 22nd of December 2001 > > This advice affects people in the following weather districts: > > Northern Rivers > Mid-North Coast > Northern Tablelands, east of a line Armidale to Tabulam > Hunter > > Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area from this afternoon. Some > of these are expected to be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging > winds and very heavy rainfall. > > The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should: > * put vehicles under cover > * move indoors away from windows > > During and after the storm people should: > * beware of fallen trees and power lines > * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away > > The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow down in > the wet. > > If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for > emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm. > > TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for the Northern Rivers, Mid > North Coast, Hunter and parts of the Northern Tablelands weather forecast > districts. > ____________________________________________________________________________ > _________________________________________ > John Graham gorzzzz at dingoblue.net.au or gorzzz at yahoo.com > Icq 25440353 > Member of The Australian Severe Weather Assoc. > ASWA Homepage http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > Snail Mail: > P.O. Box 1072 Ballina 2478 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Bris-wx Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 17:13:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Scorcher in Brisbane today, along with much of the E Coast I imagine. Max at Mt. Crosby 38.8C around 1:30pm. Winds NW all day, still 36C. Pool temp now too warm at 34C - will need to add ice. John +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:14:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane wrote a long time ago (but my first post on 16 Dec never made it): > Two states (Queensland & Victoria) now have 'Current Weather' pages. > > James Chambers has one covering Queensland at > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/brisbane_info.htm adn MSC has > one covering Victoria (with a national summary) at > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm There's another one almost > up for Queensland too. > > **** Anyone going to do one up for the other states? These > are brilliant for those who are ridiculously busy & can only grab a > glimpse of the conditions. > Jane, I plan to produce regional pages for Australian Weather News, starting over the Christmas/New Year break when I get some time. The plan is to have one page for each capital city and to break the remainder of each state into several different zones, dictated by climatic similarity, forecast zones and data availability. Each of these regional pages will have a selection of appropriate graphics, data and forecasts derived from the web or from my own realtime data sources. I plan to make the first one for Sydney and test it as a template, so some feedback would be useful at that stage. After that, fitting the template to the other capitals and regions should be quicker. The aim is to have all the basic realtime information for one area available with one click (on a screen which then updates automatically each 10 minutes), with more esoteric information for the area, including the growing number of regional interest weather sites, just a second click away. This repost sent 7.15pm Sat 22 Dec. Cheers Laurier Williams Australian Weather News http://www.australianweathernews.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:12:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And I agree with Don and Mark. I've just received a bounced post to the list that I sent nearly a week ago. I'm reposting the main message at the same time as this, at 7pm EDST Saturday 22 December. The bounce message says: "Your message was not delivered within 5 days. Host world.std.com is not responding." The accompanying dat file says: Reporting-MTA: dns; stl0srv12.mail.mel.aone.net.au Arrival-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:51:49 +1100 Received-From-MTA: dns; LAURIE (210.84.48.148) Final-Recipient: RFC822; Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Remote-MTA: dns; world.std.com The problem appears to be too widespread to be attributable only to senders' ISPs. I value this list, and I think the Weatherzone forum is excellent too. But I agree with some other posters about the advantages of a list over a web-based forum. When I download my mail, I know that I have received all new correspondence on the list (subject, of course, to it working ;)). Skipping through the emails is sequential and fast, whilst replying, cutting and pasting, and filing particular posts is far easier with emails than with a web-based list. My 5c worth is that the list admins, whose dedication to this list from the start I deeply appreciate, look urgently at moving it to Yahoo, before terminal decline sets in. I run or belong to a dozen lists on Yahoo and have yet to experience any problems. Cheers all, and have a merry and thundery Christmas and a prosperous and convective New Year! Now, let's see if this one makes it through..... Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy > Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2001 5:07 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. > Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum > and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not > through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind of > coherent conversation almost impossible. > > Mark Hardy > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in > past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it > either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no > problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. > Don White > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > > > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list > > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread > > > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by > > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which > > > I can't do on a forum. > > So what about it list members? > > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was > > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > > > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able > > > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, > > whatever name it may or may not go by. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk > > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Bagust > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > > > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within > > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my > > > > left kidney to > > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, > > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, > > > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the > > > immediacy of a list. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > > > > - > > > - > > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > > knowing.." > > > Albert Speer > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Almighty storm heading this way.... Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 19:26:37 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all. HUge storm about to hit. CG's every second..... radar going off! (see Darwin AP radar as the other (Berrimah) is unreliable. Paul in Darwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:42 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) > And I agree with Don and Mark. I've just received a bounced post to the list > that I sent nearly a week ago. I'm reposting the main message at the same > time as this, at 7pm EDST Saturday 22 December. The bounce message says: > "Your message was not delivered within 5 days. Host world.std.com is not > responding." The accompanying dat file says: > > Reporting-MTA: dns; stl0srv12.mail.mel.aone.net.au > Arrival-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:51:49 +1100 > Received-From-MTA: dns; LAURIE (210.84.48.148) > > Final-Recipient: RFC822; > Action: failed > Status: 4.4.7 > Remote-MTA: dns; world.std.com > > The problem appears to be too widespread to be attributable only to senders' > ISPs. > > I value this list, and I think the Weatherzone forum is excellent too. But I > agree with some other posters about the advantages of a list over a > web-based forum. When I download my mail, I know that I have received all > new correspondence on the list (subject, of course, to it working ;)). > Skipping through the emails is sequential and fast, whilst replying, cutting > and pasting, and filing particular posts is far easier with emails than with > a web-based list. > > My 5c worth is that the list admins, whose dedication to this list from the > start I deeply appreciate, look urgently at moving it to Yahoo, before > terminal decline sets in. I run or belong to a dozen lists on Yahoo and have > yet to experience any problems. > > Cheers all, and have a merry and thundery Christmas and a prosperous and > convective New Year! > > Now, let's see if this one makes it through..... > > Laurier > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy > > Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2001 5:07 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > > I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. > > Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum > > and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not > > through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind of > > coherent conversation almost impossible. > > > > Mark Hardy > > The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > > http://www.theweather.com.au > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White > > Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > > I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in > > past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it > > either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no > > problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. > > Don White > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > > > > > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list > > > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread > > > > > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by > > > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which > > > > > I can't do on a forum. > > > So what about it list members? > > > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > > > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > > > > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was > > > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > > > > > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > > > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able > > > > > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, > > > whatever name it may or may not go by. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk > > > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Phil Bagust > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > > > > > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within > > > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my > > > > > > left kidney to > > > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, > > > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, > > > > > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the > > > > immediacy of a list. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > > > > > > - > > > > - > > > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > > > knowing.." > > > > Albert Speer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > > + > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > > > your_email_address" in the body of your > > > > message. > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow in UK Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:01:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can't resist, Snow in Wallsend courtesy of Les Crossan....... http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lastday.htm doesn't it make you downright jealous!!!!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: , "Jane ONeill" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow in UK Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:22:02 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Everyone - I've put some up on alt.binaries.pictures.weather as a broadband connection is preferable when viewing the daily archive. Les -- "A gramme is always better than a damn" - Brave New World == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: aus-wx: Snow in UK > Can't resist, > > Snow in Wallsend courtesy of Les Crossan....... > > http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lastday.htm > > doesn't it make you downright jealous!!!!! > > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 19/12/2001 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: , "Jane ONeill" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow in UK Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 11:41:50 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'd rather have the barbie (: Merry Christmas to all of ye - Les -- "A gramme is always better than a damn" - Brave New World == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: aus-wx: Snow in UK > Can't resist, > > Snow in Wallsend courtesy of Les Crossan....... > > http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lastday.htm > > doesn't it make you downright jealous!!!!! > > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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When you guys are tucking into your trout and prawns on the barbie on Christmas Day just think of what were fetting here in *this* Wallsend  - SNOW pix posted to alt.binaries.pictures.weather and my state rep (Vic). The webcam's picking it up, too.
 
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les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk
les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk
www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam)
http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm!
 
 

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From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow in UK Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 01:17:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Les, Maybe the daily archive could be arranged with real thumbnails to eliminate that problem?? Regards, John with 50KBaud modem >snip Everyone - I've put some up on alt.binaries.pictures.weather as a broadband connection is preferable when viewing the daily archive. Les +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.188.21] From: "David Croan" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 02:16:46 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2001 15:16:46.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABC01080:01C18AFB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve - thanks for that additional info. I would not have picked that updraft to be one showing visible rotation - it just goes to show that you really need to be there and see these things with your own eyes! I dont doubt the call of the people who chased this storm, and there is certainly enough evidence to back it up; but I can understand some of the tropical people :) thinking..."hmm so that's a supercell - it looks similar to what we get." My comments on perspective were more directed to, eg myself and Jimmy saw this from the nth side >> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0529jd10.jpg another guy was seeing this from the SE side at the same time >> http://www.facethewind.com/chase2001/529meso4.jpg I suppose I'm saying that had you guys been a tad closer.. and somewhere east of the main updraft then you might have seen some more of the structural features we tend to associate with supercells. Granted you all did exceptionally well to get that close! I know it seems that some other(s) are a bit peeved with the 'is it' or 'isn't it' discussion (perhaps thinking that in being objective we are trying to rain on someone else's clear slot!); however I think an anti-cyclonic right-moving LP-classic supercell is worthy of some discussion (the list could sure do with it afterall!); and seeing as though it was in woop-woop, a logical starting point....'was it in fact a supercell?' Would we expect right moving storms based on a hodograph from Moree? (or wherever Mullaley is proximal to). Whatever it is (or isn't) we can conclude that it is both beautiful and interesting. Merry Christmas all _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [62.7.128.178] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:52:22 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2001 20:57:07.0255 (UTC) FILETIME=[3768BC70:01C18B2B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
As usual no snow down here in London yet Les,
 
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When you guys are tucking into your trout and prawns on the barbie on Christmas Day just think of what were fetting here in *this* Wallsend  - SNOW pix posted to alt.binaries.pictures.weather and my state rep (Vic). The webcam's picking it up, too.
 
Les
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Les Crossan and Christine Challen,
Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W
les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk
les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk
www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam)
http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm!
 
 

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From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Snow in UK Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 16:32:04 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, i'll do it over Christmas!! Les -- "A gramme is always better than a damn" - Brave New World == Les Crossan and Christine Challen, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Snow in UK > Hi Les, > > Maybe the daily archive could be arranged with real thumbnails to eliminate > that problem?? > > Regards, > John with 50KBaud modem > >snip > > Everyone - > > I've put some up on alt.binaries.pictures.weather as a broadband connection > is preferable when viewing the daily archive. > > Les > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 19/12/2001 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 07:32:06 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: list... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hello David! > >20 Dec 01 08:38, you wrote to old AUSSIE WX (E-mail): > > DJ> Tony, to tell the truth that was my preferred option. I was > DJ> disappointed when the egroups list was closed down earlier in the > DJ> year. I think the weatherzone is a step up from the old weather list, > >If it hasn't got an email option, its useless to me. I can whip through 100 >messages in a few minutes, but takes over an hour to wade through the same 100 >messages on a web site. :( > >Well, Melbourne is finally starting to warm up. :) > > >Tony, VK3JED Agreed. Web-based forums may be OK for those with multiple phone lines having nothing better to do but wait for web pages to load when the net is busy, but for the rest of us they are slow and inconvenient. I'd much rather scan the emails and answer anything if and when I choose to get around to it rather than being constrained to answer immediately and block up the phone line or stuff about having to save any web pages I might want to write a reply to later when I am offline. Lets keep the email flowing! The Gold Coast has been stinking hot for the last few days and we had a ripper of a thunderstorm last night. Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:40:36 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Two states (Queensland & Victoria) now have 'Current Weather' pages. >> >> James Chambers has one covering Queensland at >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/brisbane_info.htm adn MSC has >> one covering Victoria (with a national summary) at >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm There's another one almost >> up for Queensland too. >> >> **** Anyone going to do one up for the other states? These >> are brilliant for those who are ridiculously busy & can only grab a >> glimpse of the conditions. There seems to be no need for anyone in SA to do anything like this, because we never seem to have any 'current weather' to talk about - unless you mean patchy pancake stratocu that is :) Cheers all Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:11:27 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. >And I agree with Don and Mark. I've just received a bounced post to the list >that I sent nearly a week ago. I'm reposting the main message at the same >time as this, at 7pm EDST Saturday 22 December. The bounce message says: >"Your message was not delivered within 5 days. Host world.std.com is not >responding." The accompanying dat file says: > >Reporting-MTA: dns; stl0srv12.mail.mel.aone.net.au >Arrival-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:51:49 +1100 >Received-From-MTA: dns; LAURIE (210.84.48.148) > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; >Action: failed >Status: 4.4.7 >Remote-MTA: dns; world.std.com > >The problem appears to be too widespread to be attributable only to senders' >ISPs. > >I value this list, and I think the Weatherzone forum is excellent too. But I >agree with some other posters about the advantages of a list over a >web-based forum. When I download my mail, I know that I have received all >new correspondence on the list (subject, of course, to it working ;)). >Skipping through the emails is sequential and fast, whilst replying, cutting >and pasting, and filing particular posts is far easier with emails than with >a web-based list. > >My 5c worth is that the list admins, whose dedication to this list from the >start I deeply appreciate, look urgently at moving it to Yahoo, before >terminal decline sets in. I run or belong to a dozen lists on Yahoo and have >yet to experience any problems. If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service leave me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they took over another organisation, all my personal information including my intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under their TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical organisation. If the list must move, the super fast and reliable Weatherzone email server would be a far better alternative, and it is based in Australia. >Cheers all, and have a merry and thundery Christmas and a prosperous and >convective New Year! All the best for Christmas season and a great New Year to all. Regards, Carl. >Now, let's see if this one makes it through..... > >Laurier > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy >> Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2001 5:07 PM >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> >> >> I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. >> Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum >> and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not >> through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind of >> coherent conversation almost impossible. >> >> Mark Hardy >> The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >> http://www.theweather.com.au >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White >> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> >> >> I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in >> past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it >> either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no >> problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. >> Don White >> >> Phil Smith wrote: >> > >> > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at >> >> > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list >> > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread >> >> > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by >> > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which >> >> > I can't do on a forum. >> > So what about it list members? >> > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy >> > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. >> > >> > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was >> > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really >> >> > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or >> > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able >> >> > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, >> > whatever name it may or may not go by. >> > >> > Phil >> > <>< >> > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk >> > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Phil Bagust >> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 >> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> > >> > > Hi all >> > > >> > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. >> >> > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within >> > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my >> >> > > left kidney to >> > > see something like that at the moment. >> > > >> > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, >> > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, >> >> > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the >> > > immediacy of a list. >> > > >> > > Phil >> > > >> > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: >> > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au >> > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - >> >> > > - >> > > - >> > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not >> > > knowing.." >> > > Albert Speer >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> > > + >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> > > your_email_address" in the body of your >> > > message. >> > > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> > > - >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> > message. >> > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> your_email_address" in the body of your message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:26:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2001 01:28:30.0223 (UTC) FILETIME=[20D079F0:01C18B51] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David, and all. I have to say that I was a bit baffled when this storm started to show rotation ,I watched it for almost 15 minutes do what it did and trying to put answers to the cause!, after that there was in my opinion no doubt that not only was this storm visibly rotating, but had a very small and continuos updraft that was at times hidden by the falling precipitation, on occasions the small cone shape updraft came into view see Jane O'Neill's capture of it with a dust plume to its left best wishes Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Croan To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:16 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > Hi Clyve - thanks for that additional info. I would not have picked that > updraft to be one showing visible rotation - it just goes to show that you > really need to be there and see these things with your own eyes! I dont > doubt the call of the people who chased this storm, and there is certainly > enough evidence to back it up; but I can understand some of the tropical > people :) thinking..."hmm so that's a supercell - it looks similar to what > we get." > > My comments on perspective were more directed to, eg myself and Jimmy saw > this from the nth side >> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0529jd10.jpg > > another guy was seeing this from the SE side at the same time >> > http://www.facethewind.com/chase2001/529meso4.jpg > > I suppose I'm saying that had you guys been a tad closer.. and somewhere > east of the main updraft then you might have seen some more of the > structural features we tend to associate with supercells. Granted you all > did exceptionally well to get that close! > > I know it seems that some other(s) are a bit peeved with the 'is it' or > 'isn't it' discussion (perhaps thinking that in being objective we are > trying to rain on someone else's clear slot!); however I think an > anti-cyclonic right-moving LP-classic supercell is worthy of some discussion > (the list could sure do with it afterall!); and seeing as though it was in > woop-woop, a logical starting point....'was it in fact a supercell?' Would > we expect right moving storms based on a hodograph from Moree? (or wherever > Mullaley is proximal to). Whatever it is (or isn't) we can conclude that it > is both beautiful and interesting. > > > Merry Christmas all > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:16:58 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all.. These pages are absolutely fantastic.. I was looking for a great Brisbane page for a mate of mine.. He works for Leightons contracters doing all road works. They constantly need weather updates.. Well done to all on these 2 pages. Dave Bathurst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 10:10 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages > > >> Two states (Queensland & Victoria) now have 'Current Weather' pages. > >> > >> James Chambers has one covering Queensland at > >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/brisbane_info.htm adn MSC has > >> one covering Victoria (with a national summary) at > >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm There's another one almost > >> up for Queensland too. > >> > >> **** Anyone going to do one up for the other states? These > >> are brilliant for those who are ridiculously busy & can only grab a > >> glimpse of the conditions. > > > There seems to be no need for anyone in SA to do anything like this, > because we never seem to have any 'current weather' to talk about - unless > you mean patchy pancake stratocu that is :) > > Cheers all > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." > Albert Speer > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 14:59:08 +1100 From: Chas & Helen Osborn Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Strahan Weather Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone Looks like a interesting couple of days coming with a low cruising just south of us. We have spent as much time outside with the kids in the last few days because it looks like a indoors Christmas. I would like to wish all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Chas Strahan Tasmania ps I have added this for its humour value. Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the summer solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. AND A fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2002, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make Australia great, (not to imply that Australia is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AUSTRALIA" in the western hemisphere,) and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith, or sexual preference of the wisher. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher. Please accept with no obligation: Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:55:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The main one is speed. I mean in reading. The forums are much quicker in getting the info out to others, but I hate the web page interface. > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list that > the forums lack. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:59:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don, I am beginning to think that Ozemail has had problems. Since adding YAHOO to their name the service has slipped in my opinion. I have had the re register with the list twice now. I am also getting E Mail bombed by large SirCam virus attachments from some Italian server, but Ozemail cannot come up with a solution. They say write a rule to delete, fine but I want the rule to sit server side, which they cannot do. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don White" To: Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 16:40 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in > past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it > either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no > problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. > Don White > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list that > > the forums lack. > > It's great that the forums gather a whole thread together, but you can do > > that with your e-mails if you simply sort by subject. > > The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which I can't do > > on a forum. > > So what about it list members? > > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > > > > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was a > > bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able to > > share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, whatever name > > it may or may not go by. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Bagust > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > > > That > > > is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several > > > hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left > > > kidney to > > > see something like that at the moment. > > > > > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and > > > may > > > this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I > > > appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a > > > list. > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - > > > - > > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > > > knowing.." > > > Albert Speer > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: baygate.cth.com.au: Host port28.mdts.cab.cth.com.au [216.252.223.92] claimed to be zenith X-Sender: skerans at mail.cth.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:20:31 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Sel Kerans Subject: Re: aus-wx: list... Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I agree totally - the email is quick and convenient...means you don't have to be sitting on a browser for long periods...why change when something works well? Also if the dialogue is all on a web portal like that, who 'owns' it and therefore owns what is discussed\the intellectual property of people's expertise? Not wanting to start a debate off topic - just an observation. It's great everyone and even though I can't contribute much - too involved in my own weather projects and its email lists - I enjoy being a part of this email community. We have seen people drift away before and come back... ;-) It's a great friendly community we have on line - the web portal take some of that away for mine - less personal. Very steamy here - looked at the storms over Brisbane last night with envy until I saw how often the lightning was going to ground for long periods - and the news reports today...knew it was a bad one to be under. Guess I am happy to be steamy and dry until they are a little less violent. Sel Kerans Queensland At 07:32 23/12/01 +1000, you wrote: >>Hello David! >> >>20 Dec 01 08:38, you wrote to old AUSSIE WX (E-mail): >> >> DJ> Tony, to tell the truth that was my preferred option. I was >> DJ> disappointed when the egroups list was closed down earlier in the >> DJ> year. I think the weatherzone is a step up from the old weather list, >> >>If it hasn't got an email option, its useless to me. I can whip through 100 >>messages in a few minutes, but takes over an hour to wade through the same 100 >>messages on a web site. :( >> >>Well, Melbourne is finally starting to warm up. :) >> >> >>Tony, VK3JED > >Agreed. Web-based forums may be OK for those with multiple phone lines >having nothing better to do but wait for web pages to load when the net is >busy, but for the rest of us they are slow and inconvenient. > >I'd much rather scan the emails and answer anything if and when I choose to >get around to it rather than being constrained to answer immediately and >block up the phone line or stuff about having to save any web pages I might >want to write a reply to later when I am offline. > >Lets keep the email flowing! > >The Gold Coast has been stinking hot for the last few days and we had a >ripper of a thunderstorm last night. > >Regards, >Carl. > >~~~~~~~~~~ >Carl Smith. >Gold Coast. >Queensland. >Australia. > >Email: carls at qldnet.com.au >Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ >Current Tropical Cyclone information : >http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm >Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Chase - Victoria Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 00:43:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening (actually, morning all) Had a great 'Sunday afternoon drive' (of the ONeill variety - you know - 900kms or so ), up towards the northeast & around the area for the afternoon. Successes include: 3 'carwashers' 2 photogenic cells 2 double rainbows a brilliant sunset a herd of cattle & calves who rushed up to the fence to introduce themselves to Cadence - we gave up when the BULL started shouldering his way through them towards the fence - we felt that retiring at that point was the sensible thing to do........ 3 sheep 'lurking' on the side of the road near Benalla - the local cop was still laughing at the 'lurking sheep' as he hung up after I reported them Pics up tomorrow sometime (today) Then after doing the shopping at 11.30pm (after a gentle drive of 900kms) I come home & get hailed upon in my own backyard & see lightning to the SW. Now was that a success or what??? PS: for all of you chasers, I bought a 'stable table' for $10.99 in KMart today - fits perfectly on the front seat & allowed me to charge the video on the way back & also the camera batteries without having things roll into each other & under things - definitely incredibly useful for those of you who live out of the front seats of your car (and write chase reports en route) like I do... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 24 Dec 01 01:01:05 +1000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Carl! 23 Dec 01 08:11, you wrote to All: CS> unsolicited junk email including much of an absolutely disgusting CS> nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and writings. I signed CS> off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical organisation. I've never had any problems, the level of spam hasn't risen above what it was (at least not by any amount that can't be explained by other means...). And I'm on a truckload of Yahoogroups lists. CS> If the list must move, the super fast and reliable Weatherzone email CS> server would be a far better alternative, and it is based in CS> Australia. Good idea. Can they integrate that with the web stuff so everyone gets the best of both worlds? Anyway, we've been having light rain since about midnight... Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 04:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Adam Carter Subject: aus-wx: vehicle design To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Seasons greetings from England! I am a final year car design student, working on the design of a vehicle for extreme weather conditions. What kind of vehicle would you find useful? What do you currently use? What equipment do you use? What are the problems that you have with your current vehicle. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. I am afraid that we don't get much extreme weather in London, so would really value your experience and your ideas. Many thanks, Adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 02:45:28 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony. >Hello Carl! > >23 Dec 01 08:11, you wrote to All: > > CS> unsolicited junk email including much of an absolutely disgusting > CS> nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and writings. I signed > CS> off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical organisation. > >I've never had any problems, the level of spam hasn't risen above what it was >(at least not by any amount that can't be explained by other means...). And >I'm on a truckload of Yahoogroups lists. I generally avoid entering personal info anywhere with a few carefully chosen exceptions. The previous trickle of junk emails started increasing within 24 hours of Yahoo taking my info and accelerated over the next week or so, to the point where I often get 20 or 30 a day, and has settled around that ever since. I do not know if there is a connection, it could be pure coincidence, however it is suspicious. In any case, I do not like Yahoo's ethical standards as set out in their TOS, and I refuse to agree to intellectual copyright theft by virtue of them providing a 'publishing service'. I also refuse to agree to allow them to onsell my info to whomsoever they reckon they can make a buck out of by doing so. In order to have gained entry to delete the material moved to their server without my permission, I would have had to agree to both of those conditions. > > CS> If the list must move, the super fast and reliable Weatherzone email > CS> server would be a far better alternative, and it is based in > CS> Australia. > >Good idea. Can they integrate that with the web stuff so everyone gets the >best of both worlds? That could be a solution to the percieved 'speed problem', and I would be happy enough to be on such a combined service if it meant the survival of aus-wx, as I think TWC does a good job. Personally, I do not have a problem with the world.std server. It can be a bit slow sometimes, but I only go online a couple of times a day, so it suits my level of involvement in aus-wx. >Anyway, we've been having light rain since about midnight... It continues to be warm and sticky here, I'm sweating just sitting here with the door and window open...looks like a hot day coming up....37 forecast for Bris, 32 for Coolangatta. > >Tony, VK3JED Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Canberra Overnite 24/12/01 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 04:03:12 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2001 17:04:11.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7CA6350:01C18BD3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This message is from ME, posted on WxZone Forums at 3:54am 24/12/01, it includes IRC #weather coversations also by me at 1am.
 
Unexpectedly Canberra had some Action on the 23/12 thru to 24/12. i was working from 3pm till 12:30am so i missed the best stuff!
 
wot a night! work'n from 3pm just finished at 12:30am, get home, *FLASH*, mums up-- asked wot tonite has been like, to my horror....THUNDER and LIGHTNING throughout the nite!! "some BIG lightning over there (pointing east)" Phone lines in flynn (1 suburb away) had been cut from 10pm!
 
Loaded up WZ, Country energy, BoM, Wxprofiler, and weather stats, faster than my comp liked so instead of waiting i had to reboot and load them up 1 by 1
 
FROM IRC #WEATHER
<Canberra-WX> it seemed to have come from nowhere, Rain was predicted with a trough tonite, but thunder activity was not!
A.C.T. FORECAST: For tonight and Monday
Cloudy with a little patchy rain possible overnight. Monday should be fine but
very windy. Moderate to fresh northwest to west winds, gusty at times, becoming
fresh to strong on Monday.
[00:53] <Canberra-WX> mmm, Country energy Storm tracker gets my hopes up! BoM wagga loop looks Allright, but Wz Lightning tracker is very sad
[00:55] <Canberra-WX> CE storm Tracker, has lightning striking NW, heading roughly SE, RadAr has a cell headinG SE from the same area, WZ LT has lightning activity dying over canberra and some more to the west, but not heading to me, but over south canberra!
 
 
As you can see we had some more action during the nite. Watching radar it look like a 50/50 chance, cells heading ESE could come over me or just get Northern ACT border, CE-ST had lightning heading more southerly then BoM radar so it looked 80/20 from that, WZ tracker didnt even have the same strikes untill 30 minutes later, so the image i was seeing was 20/80 chance.
 
The cells did pass north and all i got was some rumbles and some Cg lightning ( i could not see the Cgs only the Pulsating Flash in the cell)
 
Any way it was unexpected all the same!!!!
 
SA
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: vehicle design Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:37:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Adam I have a large Diesel 4WD and find when the weather gets tricky you feel very safe. There is nothing like a bit of height off the ground for confidence. However I would toss the diesel for petrol in future. Diesel is just too expensive here now and very polluting, water proofing is now so good in petrol 4WD vehicles that the advantage Diesel's once had ( no distributor or points to get wet ) is now vanished. A good chase vehicle would need a nice big centre console for equipment. Lots of nooks and crannies for maps. A compass that works inside the car, I think Pajeros ( Mitsubishi 4WD ) have the fitted compass, probably seen as a gimmick to anyone but a storm chaser. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Carter" To: Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2001 23:20 Subject: aus-wx: vehicle design > Seasons greetings from England! I am a final year car > design student, working on the design of a vehicle for > extreme weather conditions. What kind of vehicle would > you find useful? What do you currently use? What > equipment do you use? What are the problems that you > have with your current vehicle. Any suggestions > greatly appreciated. I am afraid that we don't get > much extreme weather in London, so would really value > your experience and your ideas. Many thanks, Adam > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: aus-wx: LOW.. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 20:41:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi guys,
 
A week Low has formed just of Willis Island... The BOM is predicting it to move north..
It would be good if some one could help me out in finding out what the SST is around Willis Island at the moment.
Jason
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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: vehicle design Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 12:49:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, Adam & all, A few thoughts from a Holden Commodore owner. .... an ignition system that doesn't play havoc with the car's electrical field - I have to recalibrate my compass on a regular basis. .... driving lights as well as high beam .... a demister that efficiently demists the passenger & driver's front windows also (quickly) .... heavy duty alternator & battery (we Victorians have killed 2 in the past month while in between Points A & B) .... larger than normal tank for windscreen washing water Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- > Hi Adam > > I have a large Diesel 4WD and find when the weather gets tricky you feel > very safe. There is nothing like a bit of height off the ground for > confidence. > > However I would toss the diesel for petrol in future. Diesel is just too > expensive here now and very polluting, water proofing is now so good in > petrol 4WD vehicles that the advantage Diesel's once had ( no distributor or > points to get wet ) is now vanished. > > A good chase vehicle would need a nice big centre console for equipment. > Lots of nooks and crannies for maps. A compass that works inside the car, I > think Pajeros ( Mitsubishi 4WD ) have the fitted compass, probably seen as a > gimmick to anyone but a storm chaser. > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Carter" > To: > Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2001 23:20 > Subject: aus-wx: vehicle design > > > > Seasons greetings from England! I am a final year car > > design student, working on the design of a vehicle for > > extreme weather conditions. What kind of vehicle would > > you find useful? What do you currently use? What > > equipment do you use? What are the problems that you > > have with your current vehicle. Any suggestions > > greatly appreciated. I am afraid that we don't get > > much extreme weather in London, so would really value > > your experience and your ideas. Many thanks, Adam > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:17:01 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain/thunder Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:26 16/12/01 +0000, you wrote: >Hi there, >Auckland airport recorded 56mm overnight, the weather breaking to give us a >fine day today but heavy rain is possible again tomorrow. >I noticed a line of thunderstorms over the lower central North island >this afternoon. Towns like Palmerston North will get a good deluge. >These storms have been triggered by heat and local wind convergence. > >7pm weather NE05kts 4/8 Cu/Sc Temp22C R/H 70% >Cheers from Auckland >Steven Williams > > Nothing much down here in in the Mainland (as usually is) although I did notice some purple blobs on the radar over central North Otago. Don't know what like further south as the Rakaia radar does not cover Otago. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Dec 2001 03:39:02.0672 (UTC) FILETIME=[87BB1900:01C18C2C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Afternoon all,
 
I've just been perusing through the models for Xmas and Boxing Days and feel there is a good chance of some severe weather of the cold air type - especially so on Wednesday in southern Victoria.

The BoM are currently going for scattered showers in southern and mountain areas on Wednesday but I think that will change by tonight/tomorrow to include local hail and thunder in the south and east.

GASP, LAPS and AVN all have the 540 line running through central Vic and 850 temps are forecast to be below 2C on Wednesday morning. AVN has extremely cold upper air temps over Melbourne late on Wednesday morning, drifting eastwards to the Gippsland region by afternoon. 500mb temps are forecast to be about -26 to -27C (extremely cold for this time of year). With surface temps currently forecast to be 19-21C across the southern areas things could become quite interesting.

The current sat pic shows quite a large cold air pool sitting W of Tassie and SW of Adelaide. Intense showers and possible storms with hail should start to move through south western Vic late tomorrow evening/night and should effect south central districts through wedensday morning and south eastern districts late morning into the afternoon. Although showers will persist well into Thursday right across S Vic it is less likely that these will be as strong due to the upper level support not being there.

Some snow showers are not out of the question on the southern Vic alps (Mt Baw Baw and Donna Buang) and I would even throw in the chance of a waterspout/tornado too given the current forecasts.

Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly airstream along the coastline.

AVN brings some sub-zero 850 temps across the S Vic alps late on Wednesday night so I may even head up the mountains for a snow check in the evening.

Enjoy.

Andrew McDonald

(Macca-wx )


 
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 15:16:42 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The name "Wonthaggi" means "wind and rain" in the aboriginal tongue, so you'll be right heading that way from that somewhat unscientific point of view. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Andrew" To: Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 [snip] > Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards > Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing > spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold > air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly > airstream along the coastline. [snip] > > Andrew McDonald > > (Macca-wx ) > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Get-together Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 19:30:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
There will be an informal gathering for all interested weather freaks, boffins, hobbyists etc this coming Friday night (28th December):
Place: The Mean Fiddler Hotel, Windsor Road (cnr Commercial Rd) Rouse Hill
Time: 7.30pm
What to bring:
Yourself, and anything you would like to talk about especially the latest weather, storms,photos etc..you know all the usual things we love to chat about.
Dress rules apply, so best not to come in thongs and shorts, just tidy casual gear.
How to get there:
 
Get onto Seven Hills Rd North or Prospect Highway (coming from north and south respectively) or James Ruse Drive from the east and follow them until you reach the large roundabout at Windsor Rd (you won't miss it, they're doing it up for the $300m widening works) North Seven Hills then turn off following the road sign. It's about 10 or 15 minutes from there.
 
 
From: "Bussy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Kookaburras Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:45:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Another of nature's signs called out yesterday. The Kookaburras early yesterday morning. Means a sign that rain will fall within 24 hours so I found out. And that it did. 14.2mm. Been a very dry few months here. 11mm last month and only 5.4mm up until yesterday for this month.
Bit off topic but we got the new Monaro delivered at work today. Wow! What a magnificent motor car. I know. Ford people will say it's rubbish etc etc. But I don't want to start a bun fight here. Just feels good that the car builders have actually listened to the buyers and built what they want. As fast as it may be, I don't think it would handle all the "back" roads real well :-)
Bussy (Rutherglen)
From: "John Graham" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Kookaburras Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 21:56:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You know what holden stands for bussy???? Heap Of Low Down Engineered Nothing....  :))
BTW, Merry Christmas Everyone
John from Ballina
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From: Bussy
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 9:45 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Kookaburras

Another of nature's signs called out yesterday. The Kookaburras early yesterday morning. Means a sign that rain will fall within 24 hours so I found out. And that it did. 14.2mm. Been a very dry few months here. 11mm last month and only 5.4mm up until yesterday for this month.
Bit off topic but we got the new Monaro delivered at work today. Wow! What a magnificent motor car. I know. Ford people will say it's rubbish etc etc. But I don't want to start a bun fight here. Just feels good that the car builders have actually listened to the buyers and built what they want. As fast as it may be, I don't think it would handle all the "back" roads real well :-)
Bussy (Rutherglen)
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 11:31:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Boskell Subject: aus-wx: Devonport WX To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good evening all, Had an active trough move thru at 20:30. Noticed the lightning at 20:10 then a low "bank" of scud moved thru followed by a wall of rain and accompanying strong winds. Nice little Christmas present. Regards, Andrew. ===== Andrew Boskell "Some people are weather wise, others are otherwise!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 22:27:39 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gidday all,
I agree with David. I love these pages as they have links to a lot of resourses for a particular region. One annoying thing about looking for just the basics of weather for any given region or city, is that you have to go from one website to another and spend much of your time flicking through all the pages.
I started to develop a page for the Hunter Region about 12 months ago. Originally I designed a basic page that I ran from my own HD just for myself. For the last few months I have added to this page and I have included this page on my website at http://www.hunterweather.com/weather.html .

Cheers,

Tim Grugeon
Maitland, NSW
http://www.hunterweather.com

PS
Merry Christmas everyone!!!

David Carroll wrote:
Hi all..

These pages are absolutely fantastic.. I was looking for a great Brisbane
page for a mate of mine.. He works for Leightons contracters doing all road
works. They constantly need weather updates..

Well done to all on these 2 pages.

Dave
Bathurst

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Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: Current Weather Pages


Two states (Queensland & Victoria) now have 'Current Weather' pages.

James Chambers has one covering Queensland at
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/brisbane_info.htm adn MSC has
one covering Victoria (with a national summary) at
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm There's another one almost
up for Queensland too.

**** Anyone going to do one up for the other states? <hint, hint> These
are brilliant for those who are ridiculously busy & can only grab a
glimpse of the conditions.

There seems to be no need for anyone in SA to do anything like this,
because we never seem to have any 'current weather' to talk about - unless
you mean patchy pancake stratocu that is :)

Cheers all

Phil

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From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 23:49:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very merry & safe Christmas & New Year to you all. To those of you expecting a white Christmas, please send photos...and to those of you expecting a stormy Christmas, could we also please have photos!!! It's been a great year for meeting & getting to know so many new faces through the forum, the aus-wx list, chases etc. May there be many more years like this!!!! Long may we learn & continue to work together for we all share the same passion for the weather. Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 01:52:36 +1100 Organization: Hotkey X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Merry Xmas Everyone.. Unlike many others who have the pleasure of not working.. I am working from 6pm - 10pm Xmas day and 2pm -6pm Boxing day.. Anyone who requests updates re weather, all can email me at normal work address.... David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au.. Have a nice Xmas everyone. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > A very merry & safe Christmas & New Year to you all. To those of you > expecting a white Christmas, please send photos...and to those of you > expecting a stormy Christmas, could we also please have photos!!! > It's been a great year for meeting & getting to know so many new faces > through the forum, the aus-wx list, chases etc. May there be many more > years like this!!!! > > Long may we learn & continue to work together for we all share the same > passion for the weather. > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Les Crossan" To: Subject: Fw: aus-wx: vehicle design Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 13:54:49 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: vehicle design > > Seasons greetings from England! I am a final year car > > design student, working on the design of a vehicle for > > extreme weather conditions. What kind of vehicle would > > you find useful? > > One that doesn't show hail dents??? > > What do you currently use? What > > equipment do you use? What are the problems that you > > have with your current vehicle. Any suggestions > > greatly appreciated. I am afraid that we don't get > > much extreme weather in London > > Huh??? > > Within 50 miles (80k) of Central London you've got: > > (i) Wokingham - where the supercell structure was discovered after a forward > flank updraught HP supercell went through it spawning golfball hail and a > tornado > > (ii) a supercell event in Hampstead in the 1980's > > (iii) T7 (F3) tornado damage in central London in the 1950's > > (iv) several Selsey tornadoes - regular this one > > (v) the south coast... UK's tornado alley!!!! > > (vi) Wimbledon!! > > Les > > -- > "A gramme is always better than a damn" - Brave New World > == > Les Crossan and Christine Challen, > Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W > les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk > les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk > www.uksevereweather.org.uk (includes the Wallsend StormCam) > http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm! > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 19/12/2001 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 19/12/2001 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 06:37:09 +1100 From: Chas & Helen Osborn Organization: UniDial Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Everyone Well there are some coldies here at 6.30am EDST. They are not to any great height and are just fibrous at the top. We had a thunderstorm last night around 7pm with very heavy rain and a rumble of thunder every five minutes. Chas Strahan Tasmania Phil Smith wrote: > The name "Wonthaggi" means "wind and rain" in the aboriginal tongue, so > you'll be right heading that way from that somewhat unscientific point of > view. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Andrew" > To: > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > [snip] > > Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards > > Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing > > spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold > > air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly > > airstream along the coastline. > [snip] > > > > Andrew McDonald > > > > (Macca-wx ) > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 09:26:52 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic (SA?) Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi and Merry Christmas to all Amazingly chilly in Adelaide for Christmas day. I make 14 degrees at 9.30 with a strong SW breeze and light showers. We had a strong burst of showers overnight. It looks like it's going to be a wintry Chrissie day over most of SE Australia this year - just wondering what the record low maxima for the capital cities for the 25th are? Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 25 Dec 01 11:20:03 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic (SA?) Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Phil! 25 Dec 01 09:26, you wrote to All: PB> Amazingly chilly in Adelaide for Christmas day. I make 14 degrees at PB> 9.30 with a strong SW breeze and light showers. We had a strong burst PB> of showers overnight. Rather chilly in Melbourne at 11:20AM... brrrr. Looks like we're going to have the usual cool week between Xmas and New Years... Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:28:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2001 00:30:36.0007 (UTC) FILETIME=[5ED8AF70:01C18CDB] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all weather souls. A merry Christmas from Leopold,at 1000hrs this morning 10.5c heavy showers and a splattering of hail whoopee,regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chas & Helen Osborn To: Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:37 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > Hello Everyone > > Well there are some coldies here at 6.30am EDST. They are not to any great > height and are just fibrous at the top. > We had a thunderstorm last night around 7pm with very heavy rain and a rumble > of thunder every five minutes. > > Chas > Strahan Tasmania > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > The name "Wonthaggi" means "wind and rain" in the aboriginal tongue, so > > you'll be right heading that way from that somewhat unscientific point of > > view. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Andrew" > > To: > > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 > > Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > > > [snip] > > > Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards > > > Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing > > > spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold > > > air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly > > > airstream along the coastline. > > [snip] > > > > > > Andrew McDonald > > > > > > (Macca-wx ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas One & All. Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 10:35:59 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI all - Hope you all have a very merry Christmas and a stormy new year! Late Gusty storm for us here in Darwin. Just in time to blow away all those new tents, shade house etc bought for Christmas! :) Take it easy and safe. Paul NT State ASWA Rep & all NT Stormies. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cooler Christmas Day. Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 12:04:56 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi everyone,

It seems somewhat much cooler today on this Christmas Day. Some low level stratocumulus and cumulus clouds brought fewer showers to most Adelaide area. I got 1.4mm so far since.
Did not go over 16C till midday. Its 16.8C here in Golden Grove at midday. Wind was gusty much of morning. Recorded max gust of 28 knots by Davis weather station. Same for yesterday as well.

Hope you have had a good Christmas Day.
Merry Christmas! :)
From Nathan.

From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:09:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I agree about Yahoo, it is all big business with them. The public are just another resource to be exploited. OzeMail, my ISP has been taken over or partnered with Yahoo and now the first things that you see on the Ozemail homepage is advertising, of late huge Coca Cola banners. Having said that I do not think Yahoo trades your name to junk mail lists. If you have web pages with E Mail addresses on them the addresses are sucked up by 'bots for the junk mail list companies. My situation with junk E Mail and now virus attachments is so bad that I am thinking of changing my E Mail address. In future web pages my address will appear as a bit map graphic. Perhaps a form ? I don't know enough about HTML to know whether this would prevent E Mail suck. The virus attachments I can deal with, I have never been infected, it is that the SirCam variety come attached with large files. It is a pain downloading your mail to find that 2-3mbs is simply virus attachments. Michael > > If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service leave > me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they took > over another organisation, all my personal information including my > intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them > without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under their > TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I > have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of > an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and > writings. 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Many of the supercells on the USA tapes are storms similar in structure to many storms seen here, and storms that I myself would not have labelled supercell. Of course on the tape are some true beasts as well. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Croan" To: Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2001 2:16 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell > Hi Clyve - thanks for that additional info. I would not have picked that > updraft to be one showing visible rotation - it just goes to show that you > really need to be there and see these things with your own eyes! I dont > doubt the call of the people who chased this storm, and there is certainly > enough evidence to back it up; but I can understand some of the tropical > people :) thinking..."hmm so that's a supercell - it looks similar to what > we get." > > My comments on perspective were more directed to, eg myself and Jimmy saw > this from the nth side >> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/0529jd10.jpg > > another guy was seeing this from the SE side at the same time >> > http://www.facethewind.com/chase2001/529meso4.jpg > > I suppose I'm saying that had you guys been a tad closer.. and somewhere > east of the main updraft then you might have seen some more of the > structural features we tend to associate with supercells. Granted you all > did exceptionally well to get that close! > > I know it seems that some other(s) are a bit peeved with the 'is it' or > 'isn't it' discussion (perhaps thinking that in being objective we are > trying to rain on someone else's clear slot!); however I think an > anti-cyclonic right-moving LP-classic supercell is worthy of some discussion > (the list could sure do with it afterall!); and seeing as though it was in > woop-woop, a logical starting point....'was it in fact a supercell?' Would > we expect right moving storms based on a hodograph from Moree? (or wherever > Mullaley is proximal to). 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Hi Les
 
Prawns are awfully expensive this year, approaching $30 a kilo. I can catch them only 200m from my house as I live near a salt water estuary, but the problem is finding the time.
 
Trout aren't that popular - a few sausages, some octopus, or good old lamb chops is the more likely fare.
 
Parts of Queensland are progged for 45-46C Christmas Day.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Saturday, 22 December 2001 21:09
Subject: aus-wx: Snow

When you guys are tucking into your trout and prawns on the barbie on Christmas Day just think of what were fetting here in *this* Wallsend  - SNOW pix posted to alt.binaries.pictures.weather and my state rep (Vic). The webcam's picking it up, too.
 
Les
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les.crossan at blueyonder.co.uk
les.crossan at nvisage.ltd.uk
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http://62.31.157.178:8000/listen.pls - ToRN at DiC causing a storm!
 
 

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From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:30:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Tim
 
The Great Dividing range almost splits in two across the upper Hunter. Drive along the Golden Hwy from the Hunter to Dubbo and you barely cross any significant ranges. As you note this valley must help dry air from the interior invade.
 
The Hunter has a lot of things going for it storm wise. There is also the Liverpool ranges that act as a storm initiation focus, these stretch all the way back to almost Coonabarabran. In several chases I have noted convection starts there before drifting either SE into the Hunter or on low shear days up into the NW plains.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 17:57
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Splitting Supercell

The far NE parts of the Hunter are renowned for there supercells. Just to add to what Michael said, another possible reason for this is due to the topography of the Hunter. Winds often blow from the WNW down the main valley on hot days (often caused by the funnelling effect), however, around the Bulahdelah and northern areas of Port Stephens, winds often blow from the NE. This creates good convection and shear by the two winds interecting. Storms with a dry line a very common in this area also due to this effect.

-Tim


Michael Thompson wrote:
I harp on about micro scale geography playing a big part in weather, it is a
pet interest of mine and I don't pretend to have valid scientific answers,
just personal opinions, so here goes.

That area is at the end of the Hunter - Stockton - Nelson Bay bight, this is
the largest NE swing on the NSW coast. Dewpoints and moisture often increase
significantly along this small stretch. Added to this just inland you have
Barrington Tops which at 1300m is a CAP breaker.

Michael


03:50 UTC WLM radar shows a splitting supercell moving out to sea.
The cyclonic left mover is beginning to look a little stronger that the
right-mover.
Reflectivity in both cores is 55+ dBZ.  Lightning rate is off the scale.

BIG CAPE - you've done it again. Geeee, I hope someone waved this
beast good bye as it crossed into the Tasman.

Harald

PS: 0400 UTC update - left mover continued to strengthen, in fact it is
moving so far left that it is pretending to make landfall again just
SE of an old friend - Bulahdelah (NSW). What is it with this place?

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From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etcetc) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 12:03:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If this email makes the list, it will be a miralce indeed ( a xmas miralce??) as i haven't had a message reach the list in some three months. I did send an email via Michael Bath to this list about this problem a few months ago. Indeed the usage of the list has rapidly decreased since then. I fear i am not the only one who continutes to send messages that never make it. I have no problem with a Yahoo or a Weatherzone list. The same issues that Carl stated are encountered if the list is moved to any mail sever that is run by a company. I have no problems with either option. As Laurier as said, the Yahoo servers are great, and fast, although they do require an online login and signup which will deter others. There are advantages of a email forum such as the aus-wx above an online forum. In my experience i have noted that discussions move more thoughtfully on an email based forum, and tend to stay on track a lot longer. I would be saddened if the list died because some people who have no problems don't feel the need for a change. This did happen a while ago when the list experienced similar problems. There was a split and alot of people ended up with 2 sets of messages. We all need to decide and change for the greater good. These issues need to be discussed and finalised quickly as the list is dying.... dann ____________________________ Daniel Weatherhead weatherhead at ozemail.com.au Blaxland, NSW ============================ SYDNEY STORM CHASERS http://www.sydneystormchasers.com ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl Smith To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etcetc) > Hi All. > > >And I agree with Don and Mark. I've just received a bounced post to the list > >that I sent nearly a week ago. I'm reposting the main message at the same > >time as this, at 7pm EDST Saturday 22 December. The bounce message says: > >"Your message was not delivered within 5 days. Host world.std.com is not > >responding." The accompanying dat file says: > > > >Reporting-MTA: dns; stl0srv12.mail.mel.aone.net.au > >Arrival-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:51:49 +1100 > >Received-From-MTA: dns; LAURIE (210.84.48.148) > > > >Final-Recipient: RFC822; > >Action: failed > >Status: 4.4.7 > >Remote-MTA: dns; world.std.com > > > >The problem appears to be too widespread to be attributable only to senders' > >ISPs. > > > >I value this list, and I think the Weatherzone forum is excellent too. But I > >agree with some other posters about the advantages of a list over a > >web-based forum. When I download my mail, I know that I have received all > >new correspondence on the list (subject, of course, to it working ;)). > >Skipping through the emails is sequential and fast, whilst replying, cutting > >and pasting, and filing particular posts is far easier with emails than with > >a web-based list. > > > >My 5c worth is that the list admins, whose dedication to this list from the > >start I deeply appreciate, look urgently at moving it to Yahoo, before > >terminal decline sets in. I run or belong to a dozen lists on Yahoo and have > >yet to experience any problems. > > If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service leave > me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they took > over another organisation, all my personal information including my > intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them > without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under their > TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I > have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of > an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and > writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical > organisation. > > If the list must move, the super fast and reliable Weatherzone email server > would be a far better alternative, and it is based in Australia. > > >Cheers all, and have a merry and thundery Christmas and a prosperous and > >convective New Year! > > All the best for Christmas season and a great New Year to all. > > Regards, > Carl. > > >Now, let's see if this one makes it through..... > > > >Laurier > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy > >> Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2001 5:07 PM > >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > >> > >> > >> I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. > >> Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum > >> and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not > >> through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind of > >> coherent conversation almost impossible. > >> > >> Mark Hardy > >> The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. > >> http://www.theweather.com.au > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White > >> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM > >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > >> > >> > >> I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in > >> past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it > >> either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no > >> problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. > >> Don White > >> > >> Phil Smith wrote: > >> > > >> > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at > >> > >> > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list > >> > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole thread > >> > >> > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by > >> > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which > >> > >> > I can't do on a forum. > >> > So what about it list members? > >> > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy > >> > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. > >> > > >> > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was > >> > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really > >> > >> > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or > >> > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able > >> > >> > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, > >> > whatever name it may or may not go by. > >> > > >> > Phil > >> > <>< > >> > > >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk > >> > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Phil Bagust > >> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 > >> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc > >> > > >> > > Hi all > >> > > > >> > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment. > >> > >> > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within > >> > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my > >> > >> > > left kidney to > >> > > see something like that at the moment. > >> > > > >> > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, > >> > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, > >> > >> > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the > >> > > immediacy of a list. > >> > > > >> > > Phil > >> > > > >> > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > >> > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > >> > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - > >> > >> > > - > >> > > - > >> > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not > >> > > knowing.." > >> > > Albert Speer > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > >> > > + > >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > >> > > your_email_address" in the body of your > >> > > message. > >> > > > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > >> > > - > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >> your > >> > message. > >> > > >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >> to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > >> your_email_address" in the body of your message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 18:14:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Absolutely agree Michael........Ozemail are having BIG email problems and are very reluctant to give out any worthwhile assistance or comment.................
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc

Don, I am beginning to think that Ozemail has had problems.

Since adding YAHOO to their name the service has slipped in my opinion. I
have had the re register with the list twice now.

I am also getting E Mail bombed by large SirCam virus attachments from some
Italian server, but Ozemail cannot come up with a solution. They say write a
rule to delete, fine but I want the rule to sit server side, which they
cannot do.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Don White" <donwhite at ozemail.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 16:40
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc


> I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in
> past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it
> either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no
> problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails.
> Don White
>
> Phil Smith wrote:
> >
> > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look at
> > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list that
> > the forums lack.
> > It's great that the forums gather a whole thread together, but you can
do
> > that with your e-mails if you simply sort by subject.
> > The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster which I can't do
> > on a forum.
> > So what about it list members?
> > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to copy
> > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well.
> >
> > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was a
> > bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I really
> > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or
> > not.  In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be able
to
> > share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, whatever
name
> > it may or may not go by.
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> >
> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Phil Bagust <paisley2 at chariot.net.au>
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the moment.
> > > That
> > > is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within several
> > > hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate my left
> > > kidney to
> > > see something like that at the moment.
> > >
> > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, and
> > > may
> > > this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying that, while I
> > > appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the immediacy of a
> > > list.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au:
> > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au
> > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - -
> > > -
> > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not
> > > knowing.."
> > >                                Albert Speer
> > >
> > >
> > >
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From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 19:20:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
If anyone is interested the ABC are broadcasting  information on the NSW fires continuously at the moment.
 
We hope that everyone on the list are safe have had a good Christmas.
 
Judy Mayo
From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:35:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
so far I am safe but I think the captain has dibbs on me going out to Dubbo 2morrow on a starg.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Mayo
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:20 PM
Subject: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires

If anyone is interested the ABC are broadcasting  information on the NSW fires continuously at the moment.
 
We hope that everyone on the list are safe have had a good Christmas.
 
Judy Mayo
From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 04:42:59 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 57 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com M erry chritmass to all on the list

Dennis Cottle
From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Everyone Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 18:07:43 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Hope Everyone on the Aus-Wx Mailing List haves and good Christmas and a very happy New Year :-) Q. What would we like or wish for Christmas ? A. More Storms and Thunderdays would be nice :):) MJ, from a Dry and Warm Perth, WA. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.84.174.206] From: "Michael Olsen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:27:16 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Dec 2001 10:27:16.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9804D90:01C18D2E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well now from our house at the edge of glenmore park we can see the fires slowly, but surely making its way northwards up towards penrith and further east. Ive been watching them for a few hours and i am truly amazed at how the fire still keeps on burning as strong as before now that the wind is starting to die down. I think i wil lbe watching them for a while still! Michael Olsen >From: "Glen O'Riley" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires >Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 20:35:42 +1100 > >so far I am safe but I think the captain has dibbs on me going out to Dubbo >2morrow on a starg. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Adam Mayo > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 7:20 PM > Subject: aus-wx: re Sydney Fires > > > If anyone is interested the ABC are broadcasting information on the NSW >fires continuously at the moment. > > We hope that everyone on the list are safe have had a good Christmas. > > Judy Mayo War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 23:13:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well said Jane. Just one bit missing. Santa has lost my address I think... He found my kids, but.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: aus-wx: Merry Christmas > A very merry & safe Christmas & New Year to you all. To those of you > expecting a white Christmas, please send photos...and to those of you > expecting a stormy Christmas, could we also please have photos!!! > It's been a great year for meeting & getting to know so many new faces > through the forum, the aus-wx list, chases etc. May there be many more > years like this!!!! > > Long may we learn & continue to work together for we all share the same > passion for the weather. > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:05:56 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael. >I agree about Yahoo, it is all big business with them. The public are just >another resource to be exploited. > >OzeMail, my ISP has been taken over or partnered with Yahoo and now the >first things that you see on the Ozemail homepage is advertising, of late >huge Coca Cola banners. > >Having said that I do not think Yahoo trades your name to junk mail lists. If you read the fine print in their TOS agreement they specifically state that a condition of your use of their services is that they can on-sell your info, and that by agreeing to use their services you are agreeing to this - at least it was when I last looked. I suggest you keep a careful eye out for any changes to your ISP TOS agreement and read the fine print carefully before agreeing in any way, as you could easily give away your rights by simply clicking an [I Agree] button - see for the current regulations. >If you have web pages with E Mail addresses on them the addresses are sucked >up by 'bots for the junk mail list companies. Yes, I do have my email address on my web pages, so this could be a coincidental reason for the sudden surge of junk email ... however I am still suspicious. > >My situation with junk E Mail and now virus attachments is so bad that I am >thinking of changing my E Mail address. In future web pages my address will >appear as a bit map graphic. Perhaps a form ? I don't know enough about HTML >to know whether this would prevent E Mail suck. The virus attachments I can >deal with, I have never been infected, it is that the SirCam variety come >attached with large files. It is a pain downloading your mail to find that >2-3mbs is simply virus attachments. If it is in any kind of text including any form of HTML it is probably vulnerable to sucking - embedding a simple GIF of your email address should prevent it being obtained by a suck, however a clickable link around the GIF would still most likely be vulnerable. It would not take much extra coding in the 'bot for the email suckers to strip the traditional NOSPAM. protection off email addreses either..... Carl. > >Michael > > >> >> If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service >leave >> me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they >took >> over another organisation, all my personal information including my >> intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them >> without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under >their >> TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I >> have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of >> an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and >> writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical >> organisation. >> > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 02:34:52 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Merry Christmas Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I hope you have all had a good Christmas, and best wishes for the New Year. Carl. >A very merry & safe Christmas & New Year to you all. To those of you >expecting a white Christmas, please send photos...and to those of you >expecting a stormy Christmas, could we also please have photos!!! >It's been a great year for meeting & getting to know so many new faces >through the forum, the aus-wx list, chases etc. May there be many more >years like this!!!! > >Long may we learn & continue to work together for we all share the same >passion for the weather. > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > >Melbourne Storm Chasers >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >ASWA - Victoria >http://www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 00:48:47 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It seems all the late email is coming from Ozemail, why that is the case I dont know, Ozemail should be one of the fastest ISP's in Australia. From all the email I received on the list today (25th December), all of the posts were dated the 25th, except from the people who were with the Ozemail ISP. Those posts from Ozemail were dated the 23rd, so on the moment they are coming in 2 days delayed. Jacob At 02:05 AM 26/12/2001 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Michael. > >>I agree about Yahoo, it is all big business with them. The public are just >>another resource to be exploited. >> >>OzeMail, my ISP has been taken over or partnered with Yahoo and now the >>first things that you see on the Ozemail homepage is advertising, of late >>huge Coca Cola banners. >> >>Having said that I do not think Yahoo trades your name to junk mail lists. > >If you read the fine print in their TOS agreement they specifically state >that a condition of your use of their services is that they can on-sell >your info, and that by agreeing to use their services you are agreeing to >this - at least it was when I last looked. > >I suggest you keep a careful eye out for any changes to your ISP TOS >agreement and read the fine print carefully before agreeing in any way, as >you could easily give away your rights by simply clicking an [I Agree] >button - see for the >current regulations. > >>If you have web pages with E Mail addresses on them the addresses are sucked >>up by 'bots for the junk mail list companies. > >Yes, I do have my email address on my web pages, so this could be a >coincidental reason for the sudden surge of junk email ... however I am >still suspicious. > >> >>My situation with junk E Mail and now virus attachments is so bad that I am >>thinking of changing my E Mail address. In future web pages my address will >>appear as a bit map graphic. Perhaps a form ? I don't know enough about HTML >>to know whether this would prevent E Mail suck. The virus attachments I can >>deal with, I have never been infected, it is that the SirCam variety come >>attached with large files. It is a pain downloading your mail to find that >>2-3mbs is simply virus attachments. > >If it is in any kind of text including any form of HTML it is probably >vulnerable to sucking - embedding a simple GIF of your email address should >prevent it being obtained by a suck, however a clickable link >around the GIF would still most likely be vulnerable. > >It would not take much extra coding in the 'bot for the email suckers to >strip the traditional NOSPAM. protection off email addreses either..... > >Carl. > >> >>Michael >> >> >>> >>> If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service >>leave >>> me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they >>took >>> over another organisation, all my personal information including my >>> intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them >>> without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under >>their >>> TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I >>> have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of >>> an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and >>> writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical >>> organisation. >>> >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >~~~~~~~~~~ >Carl Smith. >Gold Coast. >Queensland. >Australia. > >Email: carls at qldnet.com.au >Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ >Current Tropical Cyclone information : >http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm >Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 04:46:11 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etcetc) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. >If this email makes the list, it will be a miralce indeed ( a xmas >miralce??) as i haven't had a message reach the list in some three months. You miracle happened! >I did send an email via Michael Bath to this list about this problem a few >months ago. Indeed the usage of the list has rapidly decreased since then. I >fear i am not the only one who continutes to send messages that never make >it. > >I have no problem with a Yahoo or a Weatherzone list. The same issues that >Carl stated are encountered if the list is moved to any mail sever that is >run by a company. I have no problems with either option. As Laurier as said, >the Yahoo servers are great, and fast, although they do require an online >login and signup which will deter others. At least with an Australian company, they are bound by Australian law, and our legal privacy provisions apply. Yahoo, being offshore, is pretty well untouchable. I am sure a terms of service agreement could be negotiated with The Weather Company that says somewhere that the content of all posts remains the sole copyright of the author and that non-TWC moderators could be appointed to ensure an arms length from TWC. Yahoo demands that you give copyright over to them for using their 'publishing' services. They falsely claim that this is required in order for them to provide their services. This is simply not true. >There are advantages of a email forum such as the aus-wx above an online >forum. In my experience i have noted that discussions move more thoughtfully >on an email based forum, and tend to stay on track a lot longer. I would be >saddened if the list died because some people who have no problems don't >feel the need for a change. This did happen a while ago when the list >experienced similar problems. There was a split and alot of people ended up >with 2 sets of messages. We all need to decide and change for the greater >good. As has been noted by Jacob in his reply, it seems the only ISP having consistant posting problems is ozemail - for the rest of us it is just a little slow at times. As it has been revealed ozemail have been swallowed up by Yahoo, it is possible that changes have been made to their email server software that are causing your posts to bounce or experience lengthy delays - who knows, they may even all be being rerouted through the US before being resent on to their destination! This is pure speculation, but if it was the case it could be creating havoc with the world.std filtering software, perhaps by registering as being from somewhere other than from your original email address, so gets bounced, and as Yahoo seems to want to control all public forums (and to claim copyright on the content of ALL information transferred through them by ANY means including email), it would not be in their financial interest to fix software problems relating to 3rd party email forums, rather they could just continue to deny there was a problem and hope that everyone signs off these 'problematic' 3rd party lists and join Yahoo lists, so swelling their customer base. Regarding the drop off in numbers, it seems that there has been a major shift to the Weatherzone online forum, which is quite active in spite of the inconvenience, and my guess is that when the novelty wears off, many will see the advantages of email over logging on and sitting waiting for pages to load that there will be a steady trickle of people back here. The only current advantage of the online forum is that messages are available more quickly, which can make a difference to storm chasers, and if there was a way to resolve the often slow world.std relay rate, perhaps by moving to the TWC email server, this advantage would be non-existant, the email would quickly regain preference, and the weatherzone forum would shrink a bit at first yet remain as a viable public forum given it's wider audience catch (anyone that watches commercial TV weather can find weatherzone via TWC) and will inevitably grow again. > >These issues need to be discussed and finalised quickly as the list is >dying.... > >dann Regards, Carl. > >____________________________ >Daniel Weatherhead >weatherhead at ozemail.com.au >Blaxland, NSW >============================ >SYDNEY STORM CHASERS >http://www.sydneystormchasers.com >============================ > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Carl Smith >To: >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:11 AM >Subject: RE: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell >etcetc) > > >> Hi All. >> >> >And I agree with Don and Mark. I've just received a bounced post to the >list >> >that I sent nearly a week ago. I'm reposting the main message at the same >> >time as this, at 7pm EDST Saturday 22 December. The bounce message says: >> >"Your message was not delivered within 5 days. Host world.std.com is not >> >responding." The accompanying dat file says: >> > >> >Reporting-MTA: dns; stl0srv12.mail.mel.aone.net.au >> >Arrival-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:51:49 +1100 >> >Received-From-MTA: dns; LAURIE (210.84.48.148) >> > >> >Final-Recipient: RFC822; >> >Action: failed >> >Status: 4.4.7 >> >Remote-MTA: dns; world.std.com >> > >> >The problem appears to be too widespread to be attributable only to >senders' >> >ISPs. >> > >> >I value this list, and I think the Weatherzone forum is excellent too. >But I >> >agree with some other posters about the advantages of a list over a >> >web-based forum. When I download my mail, I know that I have received all >> >new correspondence on the list (subject, of course, to it working ;)). >> >Skipping through the emails is sequential and fast, whilst replying, >cutting >> >and pasting, and filing particular posts is far easier with emails than >with >> >a web-based list. >> > >> >My 5c worth is that the list admins, whose dedication to this list from >the >> >start I deeply appreciate, look urgently at moving it to Yahoo, before >> >terminal decline sets in. I run or belong to a dozen lists on Yahoo and >have >> >yet to experience any problems. >> >> If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service >leave >> me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they >took >> over another organisation, all my personal information including my >> intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them >> without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under >their >> TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I >> have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of >> an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and >> writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical >> organisation. >> >> If the list must move, the super fast and reliable Weatherzone email >server >> would be a far better alternative, and it is based in Australia. >> >> >Cheers all, and have a merry and thundery Christmas and a prosperous and >> >convective New Year! >> >> All the best for Christmas season and a great New Year to all. >> >> Regards, >> Carl. >> >> >Now, let's see if this one makes it through..... >> > >> >Laurier >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Mark Hardy >> >> Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2001 5:07 PM >> >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> >> Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> >> >> >> >> >> I agree Don. I just received a mail on the list that I sent on Monday. >> >> Have a great Christmas all. This list is a great adjunct to the forum >> >> and it would be a pity to see it die as it appears to be doing. Not >> >> through lack of interest but these amazing delays that makes any kind >of >> >> coherent conversation almost impossible. >> >> >> >> Mark Hardy >> >> The Weather Company Pty. Ltd. >> >> http://www.theweather.com.au >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >> >> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Don White >> >> Sent: Friday, 21 December 2001 4:40 PM >> >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> >> >> >> >> >> I agree Phil - but major problems. I have sent 6 times to this list in >> >> past 2 weeks without it appearing so this one probably won't make it >> >> either.... but if it does, can anyone please explain why? Have no >> >> problem with receiving from this list or receiving any other e-mails. >> >> Don White >> >> >> >> Phil Smith wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Amen! Phil, from another Phil. I also appreciate being able to look >at >> >> >> >> > the Weatherzone forums, but there is something about an e-mail list >> >> > that the forums lack. It's great that the forums gather a whole >thread >> >> >> >> > together, but you can do that with your e-mails if you simply sort by >> >> > subject. The other thing I can do with e-mails is sort by poster >which >> >> >> >> > I can't do on a forum. >> >> > So what about it list members? >> >> > It only takes a second when you have posted to the Weatherzone to >copy >> >> > and paste and whiz it off to the list as well. >> >> > >> >> > All of the above has nothing to do with the Mullaley storm, which was >> >> > a bloody ripper from all the terrific photos I looked at, and I >really >> >> >> >> > couldn't care less whether it managed to qualify as a "supercell" or >> >> > not. In dry and sunny and boring Hong Kong it's just great to be >able >> >> >> >> > to share from the distance in a real fair dinkum Aussie storm, >> >> > whatever name it may or may not go by. >> >> > >> >> > Phil >> >> > <>< >> >> > >> >> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk >> >> > Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >> >> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >> >> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm >> >> > >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Phil Bagust >> >> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> >> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 14:43:04 +0930 >> >> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mullaley supercell etc etc >> >> > >> >> > > Hi all >> >> > > >> >> > > I want to steer around the 'is it...isn't it' debate for the >moment. >> >> >> >> > > That is a beautiful storm and given the dearth of convection within >> >> > > several hundred km of Adelaide in the last few months, I'd donate >my >> >> >> >> > > left kidney to >> >> > > see something like that at the moment. >> >> > > >> >> > > On another note - a happy pagan or non pagan ceremony to you all, >> >> > > and may this list prosper in 2002 [a round about way of saying >that, >> >> >> >> > > while I appreciate the 'weatherzone' board, nothing beats the >> >> > > immediacy of a list. >> >> > > >> >> > > Phil >> >> > > >> >> > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: >> >> > > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au >> >> > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at >www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - >> >> >> >> > > - >> >> > > - >> >> > > "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not >> >> > > knowing.." >> >> > > Albert Speer >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> >> > > + >> >> > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> >> > > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> >> > > your_email_address" in the body of your >> >> > > message. >> >> > > >> >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> >> > > - >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> >> your >> >> > message. >> >> > >> >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> >> to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather >> >> your_email_address" in the body of your message. >> >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your >> >> message. >> >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~ >> Carl Smith. >> Gold Coast. >> Queensland. >> Australia. >> >> Email: carls at qldnet.com.au >> Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ >> Current Tropical Cyclone information : >> http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm >> Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : >http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Reminder Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 10:58:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
for all assorted weather  boffins, experts, ignoramuses (like me) and all other meteorologically evolved species, of the informal get together being held this coming Friday (28th) at the Mean Fiddler (as per my previous post). So if you are in Sydney or surrounds please come and join us and  make new friends, renew existing ones and enjoy some interaction especially on all things weather-related .
 
 
From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Aus-Wx: WeatherZone Forum V Aus-Wx List Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 14:38:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
An Opinion
 
I joined the list all gung-ho and eager.  My first experience was very sad in that I was bundled in with others accused of some insult to fellow "listers". I trundled on but was then finding my posts were not appearing and after enquiries were told it was my ISP's fault. "Ozemail".
Again I stayed with the list and found that virus's were contained in "list" messages..............
My thoughts now are is it worth the trouble?  Sure it is very interesting and as I love weather it is informative but am I better off here or with Weatherzone Forum.
Sorry but I believe Weatherzone Forum is streets ahead...........OK finding ones way around may be a bit troublesome and time consuming at times but your problems are always courteously considered by Weatherzone administrators and the site is continuously being upgraded and worked upon.
The fact that so much general weather is also available through Weatherzone lends weight to the fact that it really deserves to be supported and is so far ahead of anything else it should be supported.
I find change for change sake the absolute pits but a change to Weatherzone is not that. It is the intelligent thing to do.  That, of course, is only my opinion but I feel it will come to pass and if it does I think we will all benefit.
I'm certainly not going to de-list here but my main focus on posting will be through Weatherzone and if that upsets anyone I can only apologise.
 
Ashton Anderson
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:22:35 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Hot and Cold Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gympie's 40+ for the 3rd day in a row... Brisbane city is +38 similarly and at 2pm on Boxing Day afternoon, Melbourtne is 9.8 degrees....and people live there. Any records? Don Whote (sent at 3.20 pm 26/12/01... let's see if recent improvement in receipt of these is maintianed. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: paisley2 at mail.chariot.net.au Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 15:41:03 +0930 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus-Wx: WeatherZone Forum V Aus-Wx List Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Well, I hope this doesn't degenerate into an either/or debate, because it doesn't have to. My take is that both fora have strengths. I consult weatherzone all the time, but for 'quick n dirty' access to, and reportage of, the latest events nothing beats an email list IMHO. The fact that aus-wx doesn't always live up to that potential seems to be a function of its present set-up, not the notion of a list per se. I'd be happy if weatherzone ran this list if it speeded up posts, didn't result in more spam etc etc, but I'd still prefer to receive news in 'quick n dirty' text rather than cumbersome HTML (I still have a dialup account). Phil > An Opinion I joined the list all gung-ho and eager. My first >experience was very sad in that I was bundled in with others accused of >some insult to fellow "listers". I trundled on but was then finding my >posts were not appearing and after enquiries were told it was my ISP's >fault. "Ozemail". Again I stayed with the list and found that virus's >were contained in "list" messages.............. My thoughts now are is it >worth the trouble? Sure it is very interesting and as I love weather it >is informative but am I better off here or with Weatherzone Forum. Sorry >but I believe Weatherzone Forum is streets ahead...........OK finding >ones way around may be a bit troublesome and time consuming at times but >your problems are always courteously considered by Weatherzone >administrators and the site is continuously being upgraded and worked >upon. The fact that so much general weather is also available through >Weatherzone lends weight to the fact that it really deserves to be >supported and is so far ahead of anything else it should be supported. I >find change for change sake the absolute pits but a change to Weatherzone >is not that. It is the intelligent thing to do. That, of course, is only >my opinion but I feel it will come to pass and if it does I think we will >all benefit. I'm certainly not going to de-list here but my main focus on >posting will be through Weatherzone and if that upsets anyone I can only >apologise. Ashton Anderson Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "..It is possible to live in a twilight between knowing and not knowing.." Albert Speer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot and Cold Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 16:17:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2001 05:16:49.0692 (UTC) FILETIME=[8592CDC0:01C18DCC] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don, Yes - we do live here. The temperature here in Melbourne has been fluctuating between 8C and 14C all afternoon going up in between showers and down during showers. I've had two hail showers here - one very brief flurry and the second was a nice heavy burst of rain and small hail which delivered 4.4mm in 10mins. The record for Melbourne in Dec is 10.4C but the city AWS has been up as high as 14.9C today so no records there. The AP record is 13.0C which could possibly fall. I don't think I've seen the AP above that yet today and its currrently sitting on 12.1C. Should be an interesting afternoon. Andrew McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: Don White To: Aussie Weather Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:22 PM Subject: aus-wx: Hot and Cold > > Gympie's 40+ for the 3rd day in a row... Brisbane city is +38 similarly > and at 2pm on Boxing Day afternoon, Melbourtne is 9.8 degrees....and > people live there. > Any records? > > Don Whote > (sent at 3.20 pm 26/12/01... let's see if recent improvement in receipt > of these is maintianed. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 26 Dec 01 17:24:45 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etcetc) Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello dann! 23 Dec 01 12:03, you wrote to All: dw> As Laurier as said, the Yahoo servers are great, and fast, although dw> they do require an online login and signup which will deter others. No they don't. Only if you want to use the web interface, or configure your account via the web. Subscribing/unsubscribing can be done by email, like any other list. Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot and Cold Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:00:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Listening to the seven news they said that at 15.3C Melbourne had their coldest Boxing Day since 1924. Had a wind-chill reading here at 3pm of only 6C with 1.4mm recorded. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 4:17 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot and Cold > Hi Don, > > Yes - we do live here. The temperature here in Melbourne has been > fluctuating between 8C and 14C all afternoon going up in between showers and > down during showers. I've had two hail showers here - one very brief flurry > and the second was a nice heavy burst of rain and small hail which delivered > 4.4mm in 10mins. > > The record for Melbourne in Dec is 10.4C but the city AWS has been up as > high as 14.9C today so no records there. The AP record is 13.0C which could > possibly fall. I don't think I've seen the AP above that yet today and its > currrently sitting on 12.1C. Should be an interesting afternoon. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:12:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All, Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have been deliberately lit) Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start to rebuild from the ashes. PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell # - +61 418 369 256 Home# - +61 35 385 2699 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:15:31 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Done!! Rosalina > Hey All, > > Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all > the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. > Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't > be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to > stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have > been deliberately lit) > > Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start > to rebuild from the ashes. > > PaulY +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:35:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Images from the last couple of days in Victoria http://www.stormchasers.au.com/25_12_01.htm http://www.stormchasers.au.com/26_12_01.htm Summer?? 9.8C in the CBD at times this afternoon!! Storms - yes - hail, lightning, thunder, heavy rain, flash flooding....!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 26 Dec 01 20:15:06 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus-Wx: WeatherZone Forum V Aus-Wx List Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Phil! 26 Dec 01 15:41, you wrote to All: PB> I'd be happy if weatherzone ran this list if it speeded up posts, PB> didn't result in more spam etc etc, but I'd still prefer to receive PB> news in 'quick n dirty' text rather than cumbersome HTML (I still have PB> a dialup account). It would be good if both media could be integrated, then we'd all have the best of both worlds. I had a brief look at the weatherzone forums. Actually, one of the less cumbersome systems for reading. Didn't try posting, haven't got round to registering... As for the weather. Terrible in Melbourne as we all know. Was slightly better at Woodend, where the showers were less frequent. Also noted some strong SW winds on the return journy to Melbourne, which made driving a little more tricky than usual. :) Anyone care to take a guess at what the weather will do for the rest of the summer in Melbourne? I have seen it go from a cold start like this to heatwave conditions very quickly, so that's on the cards. Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Clarke" To: Subject: aus-wx: Two potential tropical storm developments Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 19:59:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Dec 2001 09:59:50.0059 (UTC) FILETIME=[0EA92FB0:01C18DF4] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi everyone (This is a copy of a message posted on that other list - I am still trying to discern which I prefer)

I notice that at least one computer model is indicating further development of that cluster of storms to the north west of Cape York.

It envisages movement toward Arnhem Land and slow intensification.

It also develops the small swirl to the north east of Fiji and indicates quite rapid intensification later in the forecast period.

It cautions that the product is experimental. Here is the link (I hope it works as I am also a bit {computer} experimental ! )

http://www.metoffice.com/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcgts/fxxt01.txt

At least it will give us something to watch.

Regards
Simon

Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:44:45 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What sort of topsy-turvey world is this? Here in mid winter we have had a minimum of 12 and a max of 19 with clear blue sunny skies today while Melbourne gets winter weather in the middle of summer. It's kind of crazy! '"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan!' Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:35:01 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day > Evening all, > > Images from the last couple of days in Victoria > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/25_12_01.htm > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/26_12_01.htm > > Summer?? 9.8C in the CBD at times this afternoon!! Storms - yes - hail, > lightning, thunder, heavy rain, flash flooding....!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 23:58:15 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aus-Wx: WeatherZone Forum V Aus-Wx List Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. > An Opinion I joined the list all gung-ho and eager. My first >experience was very sad in that I was bundled in with others accused of >some insult to fellow "listers". I trundled on but was then finding my >posts were not appearing and after enquiries were told it was my ISP's >fault. "Ozemail". If it is only "Ozemail" that is affected, and this seems to be the case, then it probably is an "Ozemail" server software problem. No one at aus-wx can fix "Ozemail" email server software problems. Only "Ozemail" can do that if they so choose. If you have approached "Ozemail", and they denied any possibility that their email server software is causing the problems, then perhaps you should be asking yourself why "Ozemail" is in denial about having problems that only seem to be happening to "Ozemail" clients. >Again I stayed with the list and found that virus's were contained in >"list" messages.............. No viruses have come through the list to my knowledge. There were a few from list members that had unknowingly been infected that did have aus-wx subject fields, but these did not come through the list. >My thoughts now are is it worth the trouble? Sure it is very interesting >and as I love weather it is informative but am I better off here or with >Weatherzone Forum. Sorry but I believe Weatherzone Forum is streets >ahead........... If that suits you, then that's fine. I do not see this as an "aus-wx vs Weatherzone" issue. Both are quite useful, and both serve various functions that in some cases may be better suited to one or the other. >OK finding ones way around may be a bit troublesome and time consuming at >times but your problems are always courteously considered by Weatherzone >administrators and the site is continuously being upgraded and worked >upon. I have found both The Weather Company (who host Weatherzone) and the aus-wx administrators to be helpful and considerate. The admin at aus-wx cannot fix "Ozemail" problems, so it is unfair to infer that they are not helping your situation when they have in fact helpfully pointed out to you that the most likely source of your difficulties is your ISP. >The fact that so much general weather is also available through >Weatherzone lends weight to the fact that it really deserves to be >supported and is so far ahead of anything else it should be supported. I support Weatherzone and at times use it's quite handy services. I do not see that as a reason not to support aus-wx. This apparent 'either...or' mentality seems to be completely unnecessary to me. >I find change for change sake the absolute pits but a change to >Weatherzone is not that. It is the intelligent thing to do. That, of >course, is only my opinion but I feel it will come to pass and if it does >I think we will all benefit. I'm certainly not going to de-list here but >my main focus on posting will be through Weatherzone and if that upsets >anyone I can only apologise. Feel free to post wherever you wish. I do. >Ashton Anderson Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 00:03:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And the Sydney-Hobart fleet, after leaving Sydney in hot and smokey conditions, ran headlong into a 30 knot southerly hail storm wreaking havoc on the fleet earlier this evening. Carl. >What sort of topsy-turvey world is this? >Here in mid winter we have had a minimum of 12 and a max of 19 with clear >blue sunny skies today while Melbourne gets winter weather in the middle >of summer. It's kind of crazy! >'"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan!' > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Jane ONeill" >To: "Aussie-wx" >Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:35:01 +1100 >Subject: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day > >> Evening all, >> >> Images from the last couple of days in Victoria >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/25_12_01.htm >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/26_12_01.htm >> >> Summer?? 9.8C in the CBD at times this afternoon!! Storms - yes - hail, >> lightning, thunder, heavy rain, flash flooding....!! >> >> Jane >> >> -------------------------------- >> Jane ONeill - Melbourne >> cadence at stormchasers.au.com >> >> Melbourne Storm Chasers >> http://www.stormchasers.au.com >> >> ASWA - Victoria >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au >> -------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- >> + >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >> to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >> your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- >> - >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 00:15:20 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes, I think we should all be upholding the firefighters and the people in the fire effected areas in our thoughts and prayers. I heard on ABC radio that the forecast southerly change has hit the fire areas, and is easing the situation for some but making it worse for others. They said that Heathcote is being evacuated and there are concerns that the whole place may be consumed. Regards, Carl. >Hey All, > >Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all >the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. >Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't >be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to >stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have >been deliberately lit) > >Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start >to rebuild from the ashes. > >PaulY > >Paul Yole >Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA >Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter >Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA >Cell # - +61 418 369 256 >Home# - +61 35 385 2699 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot and Cold Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 01:29:16 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mt Crosby Max for Xmas day & Boxing day, 41.2C and 40.1C respectively, and really looking to something other than a retched westerly. While it may be hot, it is nevertheless a winter wind. John. >snip Gympie's 40+ for the 3rd day in a row... Brisbane city is +38 similarly and at 2pm on Boxing Day afternoon, Melbourtne is 9.8 degrees....and people live there. Any records? Don Whote +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aus-Wx: WeatherZone Forum V Aus-Wx List Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 01:35:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Carl, Tend to agree, horses for courses. As someone with little available free time I find the list best suits my purposes. I also note that in 2 odd years of using the list, I have never had a failed post or in fact any post that did not turn up on the list within about 5 mins of transmission. But then, I am with one of the best ISP's in the land (Uni Q). John. >snip If that suits you, then that's fine. I do not see this as an "aus-wx vs Weatherzone" issue. Both are quite useful, and both serve various functions that in some cases may be better suited to one or the other. ... I support Weatherzone and at times use it's quite handy services. I do not see that as a reason not to support aus-wx. This apparent 'either...or' mentality seems to be completely unnecessary to me. ... Feel free to post wherever you wish. I do. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:52:21 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thursday morning and it's 2 degrees in Canberra - their lowest in December for 37 years and light frosts are about. Canberra's record low of 1.1 on 18-12-1964 still stands as the lowest summer temp in an Ausssie cap city. Anyone ever seem frost of fire together?? (No - not at same place obviously but in the vicinity of each other. Cooma -3 appears to be a December record. And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:18:49 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don, Yes about 40 around the Far North Coast on the 24th and 25th, with 26 for both overnight minimums - to be specific McLeans Ridges (between Lismore and Alstonville) during the past few days measured in a screen: 21st 20.7 37.1 22nd 22.4 37.7 23rd 21.0 30.0 24th 19.9 38.7 25th 25.5 39.3 26th 25.6 35.1 I was surprised to see the Evans Head max, I can only assume that the bushfires very near the AWS played a part in this reading, as the 24th also had high DPs, though the obs show Evans Head dried out earlier with winds from the direction of the fires. It could also be an error, given that the max was about 39-40 between 3pm and 6pm, dropped to 35.6 at 7pm, then UP to 43.5 at 8pm and then 35.6 at 9pm. regards, Michael At 07:52 AM 27/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: >Thursday morning and it's 2 degrees in Canberra - their lowest in >December for 37 years and light frosts are about. >Canberra's record low of 1.1 on 18-12-1964 still stands as the lowest >summer temp in an Ausssie cap city. >Anyone ever seem frost of fire together?? (No - not at same place >obviously but in the vicinity of each other. >Cooma -3 appears to be a December record. >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > >Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Two potential tropical storm developments Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 09:58:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This is the latest Fijian weather chart. A lot of activity going on in the islands at present.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Two potential tropical storm developments
 

It also develops the small swirl to the north east of Fiji and indicates quite rapid intensification later in the forecast period.

It cautions that the product is experimental. Here is the link (I hope it works as I am also a bit {computer} experimental ! )

http://www.metoffice.com/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcgts/fxxt01.txt

At least it will give us something to watch.

Regards
Simon

From: "Paul Yole" To: "Stormchase List" , "Wx-Chase" , "Australian Weather Mailing List" Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Day coldies Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:08:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey All. A little late, but here's some images of coldies I photographed while down at Portland on Christmas Day at my sisters. All images were taken at the breakwater. http://au.geocities.com/pyole78/251201/ PaulY Paul Yole Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA Cell # - +61 418 369 256 Home# - +61 35 385 2699 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: Kookaburras.. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:10:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Another of nature's signs called out yesterday. The Kookaburras early = >yesterday morning. Bussy, this works at Ferny Creek about 2 in 3 days! The Kookaburras fire up every morning around 1 hour before any other bird (currently about 5:00am), and it rains on about two in three days. More seriously though, they really are great birds to have around - we have a couple of pairs with young living in our garden - and they are a joy to watch (though the worms and lizards don't think so). Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: aussie weather list.. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:18:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >lots cut... >In my experience i have noted that discussions move more thoughtfully >on an email based forum, and tend to stay on track a lot longer. I would be >saddened if the list died because some people who have no problems don't >feel the need for a change. This did happen a while ago when the list >experienced similar problems. There was a split and alot of people ended up >with 2 sets of messages. We all need to decide and change for the greater >good. > >These issues need to be discussed and finalised quickly as the list is >dying.... > >dann Dann I agree with everything you say. Personally, I would love a list which operates both as a webpage forum (like the weatherzone) but also as an email forum... though I suspect the two are almost incompatible as a webpage forum tends to foster dozens of active threads, while an email forum can only run a half dozen or so before it gets all to confusing. Currently the miss-match (number and content) between threads on the weatherzone and aussie-wx make it hard to cross post. When forced to pick between the two, I slightly favour a webpage forum - of which the weatherzone is very good. Regards, David. Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:26:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A bit odd in Seven Hills too, this morning..my grass minimum of 5.0 was a 1 in 24 year event for this time of December..not earth shattering exactly and subject to being put in the context of locality but I think it still shows up the unusualness of this southern outbreak. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day > What sort of topsy-turvey world is this? > Here in mid winter we have had a minimum of 12 and a max of 19 with clear > blue sunny skies today while Melbourne gets winter weather in the middle > of summer. It's kind of crazy! > '"We'll all be rooned," said Hanrahan!' > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 20:35:01 +1100 > Subject: aus-wx: Victoria - Christmas & Boxing Day > > > Evening all, > > > > Images from the last couple of days in Victoria > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/25_12_01.htm > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/26_12_01.htm > > > > Summer?? 9.8C in the CBD at times this afternoon!! Storms - yes - hail, > > lightning, thunder, heavy rain, flash flooding....!! > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at stormchasers.au.com > > > > Melbourne Storm Chasers > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > ASWA - Victoria > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: "Australian Severe Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Kookaburras Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:41:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
We also have a large family of kookaburras at Mona Vale  who enjoy their morning chorus at around 4 am each morning.  But why don't ours bring us rain.  Another curiosity with the local birdlife around here is a flock of Cockatoos that love to fly about at night making an awful din.  They will circle right around the Pittwater area before settling again in several trees.  Quite nice to see when they are asleep though, in pairs and singles all with their heads tucked in under their wings.  I kid you not.
 
Judy Mayo
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:47:21 +1100 From: Tim Grugeon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 (CK-APCMag) X-Accept-Language: en-us To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It certainly has been a very interesting week as far as temps are concerned. Despite the high temperatures during the daytime, the nights have been dropping quiet low at many locations away from the coast. Not a surprise considering the DP have been as low as -7°C at some locations. -Tim Don White wrote: >Thursday morning and it's 2 degrees in Canberra - their lowest in >December for 37 years and light frosts are about. >Canberra's record low of 1.1 on 18-12-1964 still stands as the lowest >summer temp in an Ausssie cap city. >Anyone ever seem frost of fire together?? (No - not at same place >obviously but in the vicinity of each other. >Cooma -3 appears to be a December record. >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > >Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "islesit" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Kookaburras.. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 10:48:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dear David & Bussy, I love have kookaburra's around too. When they call - it is actually a challenge between two males over territory. That is why you hear so many at this time of year with Kookaburra's looking for new territory. This is another bird that I do hear on the mid north coast of NSW - and it is right for rain about 80% of the time. - Sorry cant tell you the name or even what it looks like just the noise. Ah the wonder of nature! Best wishes Ian Isles Mid North Coast NSW P.S - Almost a complete lack of effort from storms this year - although further south has copped it. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of David Jones Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2001 10:11 AM To: old AUSSIE WX (E-mail) Subject: aus-wx: Kookaburras.. >Another of nature's signs called out yesterday. The Kookaburras early = >yesterday morning. Bussy, this works at Ferny Creek about 2 in 3 days! The Kookaburras fire up every morning around 1 hour before any other bird (currently about 5:00am), and it rains on about two in three days. More seriously though, they really are great birds to have around - we have a couple of pairs with young living in our garden - and they are a joy to watch (though the worms and lizards don't think so). Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.26.98.4] From: "Simon" To: Subject: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:26:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2001 00:22:32.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[93919B90:01C18E6C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Channel 7 has been showing some great footage of the Waterspout that blew the "Nicarette" yacht around. I'm glad everyone was alright on board the boat! It would have been such an awesome site to see up close though! (Just would have had to have ensured a change of jocks though) :) Simon +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 08:36:03 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp extremes. X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.1 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes Don, here in Hong Kong our bushfire season coincides with Vic/NSW bushfire season even though we are in mid-winter. Winter here is a season of extremely low humidity and high winds, so thoughout winter all the bush gets parched and dry. Therefore it is common to see our Red Fire Danger Warning (equals extreme fire danger - lighting of fires is banned) and our Cold Weather Warning (means people sleeping out or old people without heaters may die from the cold) at the same time. Today it is already 14.5C and 78% so the Fire Danger Warning has been reduced to Yellow (High Fire Danger). When we get frosts there is also usually Red Fire Warning which equals a total ban on fires. And usually a frost is followed by dozens of fires caused by those who disobey. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Don White To: Aussie Weather Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 07:52:21 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Temp extremes. > Thursday morning and it's 2 degrees in Canberra - their lowest in > December for 37 years and light frosts are about. > Canberra's record low of 1.1 on 18-12-1964 still stands as the lowest > summer temp in an Ausssie cap city. > Anyone ever seem frost of fire together?? (No - not at same place > obviously but in the vicinity of each other. > Cooma -3 appears to be a December record. > And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans > HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > > Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (E-mail)" Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 11:54:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >As for the weather. Terrible in Melbourne as we all know. Was slightly better >at Woodend, where the showers were less frequent. Also noted some strong SW >winds on the return journey to Melbourne, which made driving a little more >tricky than usual. :) Funny, a lot of people have been complaining about the Melbourne weather, but I can't help that think Melbourne's weather has been vastly better than that "endured" by those in Sydney and Brisbane over the past week. I would rather 52 weeks of drizzle than a week of stifling heat, blazing fires and smoke laden air. Being one who lives in a fire prone area myself, my heart really goes out to those in Sydney at the moment who are enduring the bushfires - I trust no list members have houses in the line of fire? On this, I was wondering if someone from Sydney could comment on the preparedness of councils and residents in the current fire situation? and if the Government up their is going to get serious about the issue of arsonists? Living in the Dandenongs, I am very impressed by the proactive behaviour of our local residents and the council, with road side vegetation slashed on about a fortnightly basis in the lead up to summer, and residents "by-and-large" keeping the area around their homes clear of (particularly) combustible trees - European trees tend to be planted around homes. Our council even issues infringement notices to residents who fail to keep grass/scrub growth etc low cut on their properties, while new houses are strongly encouraged to be steel roofed and bricked. In the Dandenongs, we also have a clear advantage of large house blocks (mostly 1/2 to 4 acres) so it is possible to get a rural feel, while still having ~10+ metres clear around one's house - also the fire prone steep NW slopes are quite sparsely populated. >Anyone care to take a guess at what the weather will do for the rest of the >summer in Melbourne? I have seen it go from a cold start like this to heatwave >conditions very quickly, so that's on the cards. > >Tony Tony, I can only really give two snippets of guidance. The first based on the GASP, USAVN, ECMWF and UK models all suggest another "cold blast" for early next week - I don't use those word lightly! with sub 544 thickness over southern Victoria for 2+ days and cyclonic SW flow - read cold wet and windy. In fact almost a repeat of this weeks weather. This Saturday will be warmish but, I suspect it will start out from a low point (I would be guessing around 12C Saturday morning for Melbourne) and with thickness values only getting into the middle 560s I couldn't imagine much about 32C south of the divide. Longer range, the Bureau seasonal forecast (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/temps_ahead.shtml) shows a weak favouring of above normal day temperatures for JFM, though the shifts from normal are small.. Regards, David Dr David Jones Climate Analysis Section National Climate Centre Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 GPO Box 1289K, Melbourne Ph (work): (+61 3) 9669 4861 Victoria 3001, Australia Ph (home): (+61 3) 9755 1923 email : D.Jones at bom.gov.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:28:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Big Cheif in Rosehill says all were deliberately lit. Have been called upon twice now, once for Dubbo and once for Gosford but for various reasons, the positions fell wayside and other members of the unit went. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Yole" To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: aus-wx: NSW Fires > Hey All, > > Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all > the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. > Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't > be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to > stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have > been deliberately lit) > > Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start > to rebuild from the ashes. > > PaulY > > Paul Yole > Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter > Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > Cell # - +61 418 369 256 > Home# - +61 35 385 2699 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:39:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The fire closest to Wollongong was started by lightning. It was in water board catchment wilderness, but moved eastwards to threaten Mount Kembla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2001 12:28 Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > Big Cheif in Rosehill says all were deliberately lit. Have been called upon > twice now, once for Dubbo and once for Gosford but for various reasons, the > positions fell wayside and other members of the unit went. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Yole" > To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:12 PM > Subject: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > Hey All, > > > > Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all > > the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. > > Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't > > be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to > > stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have > > been deliberately lit) > > > > Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start > > to rebuild from the ashes. > > > > PaulY > > > > Paul Yole > > Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > > Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter > > Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > > Cell # - +61 418 369 256 > > Home# - +61 35 385 2699 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p51-nas11.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.213.51] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 18:54:55 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi There, I saw that waterspout on NZ TV news. Looked like a real beast. I'm not surprised though. There has been some very active looking cb on Satellite. Some of those storms have reached the South Island West Coast with 150mm+ in places yesterday. Regards Steven Williams (NZ) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon" To: Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout > Channel 7 has been showing some great footage of the Waterspout that blew > the "Nicarette" yacht around. > I'm glad everyone was alright on board the boat! It would have been such an > awesome site to see up close though! (Just would have had to have ensured a > change of jocks though) > > :) > > Simon > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:24:34 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've put a few video stills for those few that may have missed the TV news :-) The tornado was filmed off Jervis Bay, not sure of the time, but looks about 7.30pm 26/12? Certainly seems to be a nice circular base of a large thunderstorm, and on the NW flank. http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv01.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv02.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv03.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv04.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv05.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/1226tv06.jpg regards, Michael At 06:54 PM 27/12/2001 +1300, you wrote: >Hi There, >I saw that waterspout on NZ TV news. Looked like a real beast. I'm not >surprised though. There has been some >very active looking cb on Satellite. Some of those storms have reached the >South Island West Coast with 150mm+ >in places yesterday. >Regards >Steven Williams (NZ) ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: aus-wx: What the.. Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:30:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Regards to our recent weather conditions I'll have to throw to Rove McManus and say, "What The...."
 
Bussy (Rutherglen)
From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 21:52:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael, Glad to here the big fires around here were started naturally, it makes me feel a little better about photographing the smoke plumes and staring in awe at them. The Nowra fires looked positively apocalyptic as I stopped to take a few pics from Mt Pleasant lookout at the end the Kiama bends just after lunch on chrissy day. Mind blowing stuff. The smkoe plumes have also given me the first decent measureable fall to hit my rainguage for a few days. 0.2mm of ash in the last 24 or so hours!! It has been a very dry month so far, 34.9mm compared to our monthly average of 75mm. November was also low by about 30mm (64m vs 93mm). Andrew Godsman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > The fire closest to Wollongong was started by lightning. It was in water > board catchment wilderness, but moved eastwards to threaten Mount Kembla. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen O'Riley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2001 12:28 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > Big Cheif in Rosehill says all were deliberately lit. Have been called > upon > > twice now, once for Dubbo and once for Gosford but for various reasons, > the > > positions fell wayside and other members of the unit went. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Yole" > > To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:12 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all > > > the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. > > > Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't > > > be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to > > > stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have > > > been deliberately lit) > > > > > > Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start > > > to rebuild from the ashes. > > > > > > PaulY > > > > > > Paul Yole > > > Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > > > Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter > > > Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > > > Cell # - +61 418 369 256 > > > Home# - +61 35 385 2699 > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 13:18:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for your reply Carl, I must admit I do not delve into the agreements and as you are probably right they can be rather open ended. I have not heard anything really positive about Yahoo, and now that OzeMail is mixed with them it is probably wise to change ISP. Certainly as Jacob points out most of the late E Mails are from OzeMail. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, 26 December 2001 3:05 Subject: Re: aus-wx: The future of this list (was: Mullaley supercell etc etc) > Hi Michael. > > >I agree about Yahoo, it is all big business with them. The public are just > >another resource to be exploited. > > > >OzeMail, my ISP has been taken over or partnered with Yahoo and now the > >first things that you see on the Ozemail homepage is advertising, of late > >huge Coca Cola banners. > > > >Having said that I do not think Yahoo trades your name to junk mail lists. > > If you read the fine print in their TOS agreement they specifically state > that a condition of your use of their services is that they can on-sell > your info, and that by agreeing to use their services you are agreeing to > this - at least it was when I last looked. > > I suggest you keep a careful eye out for any changes to your ISP TOS > agreement and read the fine print carefully before agreeing in any way, as > you could easily give away your rights by simply clicking an [I Agree] > button - see for the > current regulations. > > >If you have web pages with E Mail addresses on them the addresses are sucked > >up by 'bots for the junk mail list companies. > > Yes, I do have my email address on my web pages, so this could be a > coincidental reason for the sudden surge of junk email ... however I am > still suspicious. > > > > >My situation with junk E Mail and now virus attachments is so bad that I am > >thinking of changing my E Mail address. In future web pages my address will > >appear as a bit map graphic. Perhaps a form ? I don't know enough about HTML > >to know whether this would prevent E Mail suck. The virus attachments I can > >deal with, I have never been infected, it is that the SirCam variety come > >attached with large files. It is a pain downloading your mail to find that > >2-3mbs is simply virus attachments. > > If it is in any kind of text including any form of HTML it is probably > vulnerable to sucking - embedding a simple GIF of your email address should > prevent it being obtained by a suck, however a clickable link > around the GIF would still most likely be vulnerable. > > It would not take much extra coding in the 'bot for the email suckers to > strip the traditional NOSPAM. protection off email addreses either..... > > Carl. > > > > >Michael > > > > > >> > >> If it moves to Yahoo, I will not move with it. Their terms of service > >leave > >> me cold. When a list I was on was moved on to their servers after they > >took > >> over another organisation, all my personal information including my > >> intellectually copyrighted posts in the archives was transferred to them > >> without my permission and in clear violation of Australian law. Under > >their > >> TOS they can use it however they like regardless of my prior copyright. I > >> have been recieving mountains of unsolicited junk email including much of > >> an absolutely disgusting nature ever since Yahoo stole my information and > >> writings. I signed off in disgust and refuse to support such an unethical > >> organisation. > >> > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 12:20:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Clyve Temperatures I could only dream of. After Monday and Christmas Day moving to Tasmanian looks attractive. Lots of smoke around even today, but thankfully much cooler. The local radar is actually showing the smoke plumes quite vividly. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Sent: Tuesday, 25 December 2001 11:28 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > Hi all weather souls. > A merry Christmas from Leopold,at 1000hrs this morning 10.5c heavy showers > and a splattering of hail whoopee,regards Clyve Herbert. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chas & Helen Osborn > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:37 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > > > Hello Everyone > > > > Well there are some coldies here at 6.30am EDST. They are not to any great > > height and are just fibrous at the top. > > We had a thunderstorm last night around 7pm with very heavy rain and a > rumble > > of thunder every five minutes. > > > > Chas > > Strahan Tasmania > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > The name "Wonthaggi" means "wind and rain" in the aboriginal tongue, so > > > you'll be right heading that way from that somewhat unscientific point > of > > > view. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Andrew" > > > To: > > > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 > > > Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > > > > > [snip] > > > > Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards > > > > Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing > > > > spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold > > > > air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly > > > > airstream along the coastline. > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Andrew McDonald > > > > > > > > (Macca-wx ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 27 Dec 01 23:42:29 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello Steven! 27 Dec 01 18:54, you wrote to All: SW> I saw that waterspout on NZ TV news. Looked like a real beast. I'm not SW> surprised though. There has been some SW> very active looking cb on Satellite. Some of those storms have reached SW> the South Island West Coast with 150mm+ in places SW> yesterday. Regards Steven Williams (NZ) It got great coverage here. Looked like a monster on the TV. Some awesome footage from the yachts. :) Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au (Tony Langdon) Date: 27 Dec 01 23:44:29 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Organization: Fidonet: Freeway Usenet <=> FTN gateway To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello David! 27 Dec 01 11:54, you wrote to old AUSSIE WX (E-mail): DJ> Funny, a lot of people have been complaining about the Melbourne DJ> weather, but I can't help that think Melbourne's weather has been DJ> vastly better than that "endured" by those in Sydney and Brisbane over DJ> the past week. I would rather 52 weeks of drizzle than a week DJ> of stifling heat, blazing fires and smoke laden air. Let's say I hate the cold! :) DJ> Being one who lives in a fire prone area myself, my heart really goes DJ> out to those in Sydney at the moment who are enduring the bushfires - DJ> I trust no list members have houses in the line of fire? On this, I Well, I'm an ex CFA volunteer (moving to the city ended that "career"), so I feel for those who are involved in the fires up there. I also sense a bit of complacency locally, a lot of areas in Vic haven't been hit that much since Ash Wednesday in 1983. DJ> of councils and residents in the current fire situation? and if the DJ> Government up their is going to get serious about the issue DJ> of arsonists? Well, lock them up, probably a bit of psychiatric help wouldn't go astray either. DJ> Living in the Dandenongs, I am very impressed by the proactive DJ> behaviour of our local residents and the council, with road side DJ> vegetation slashed on about a fortnightly basis in the lead up to DJ> summer, and residents "by-and-large" keeping the area around their DJ> homes clear of (particularly) combustible trees - European trees tend DJ> to be planted around homes. Our council even issues infringement That's good to hear... I'm glad the council up there is on the ball. DJ> Tony, I can only really give two snippets of guidance. The first based DJ> on the GASP, USAVN, ECMWF and UK models all suggest another "cold DJ> blast" for early next week - I don't use those word lightly! with sub DJ> 544 thickness over southern Victoria for 2+ days and cyclonic SW flow DJ> - read cold wet and windy. In fact almost a repeat of this weeks DJ> weather. This Saturday will be warmish but, I suspect it will start No probs, looks a bit yukky... Our friends further north could do with cool and damp conditions... DJ> out from a low point (I would be guessing around 12C Saturday morning DJ> for Melbourne) and with thickness values only getting into the middle DJ> 560s I couldn't imagine much about 32C south of the divide. Longer DJ> range, the Bureau seasonal DJ> forecast (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/temps_ahead.shtml) shows DJ> a weak favouring of above normal day temperatures for JFM, though the DJ> shifts from normal are small.. No probs. :) DJ> Dr David Jones DJ> DJ> Climate Analysis Section DJ> National Climate Centre DJ> Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 Well, I'll take your word for the short term forcast. The longer term, well, anything can happen. :) Tony, VK3JED .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW -- |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:28:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Don White wrote: > > >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans > >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > > > >Don White I can't possibly substitute for Blair, but the 45 at Evans Head has me fascinated. I'm skeptical, but there are aspects of it that make it very interesting. The AWS there is located 1.7km inland from the beach in coastal scrub, 6km SW of Evans Head settlement, 29km N of Yamba and 38km SSW of Ballina. It reported a max of 41 (rounded) at 3pm on the 24th, 44.6 at midnight for the 24 hours to midnight, and 45 (rounded) at 9am on the 25th for the 24 hours to 9am. The run of obs from the AWS was: 58 METAR 1224 1000 35007KT 28.0/22.3 Q1005.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1100 35012KT 31.2/22.2 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1200 35015KT 34.0/21.5 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1300 02011KT 31.6/22.3 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1400 03011KT 34.8/21.5 Q999.9 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1426 33014KT 39.9/17.9 Q999.1 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1433 33016KT 40.2/17.6 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1443 34019KT 39.9/17.3 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1455 33016KT 39.2/17.9 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1507 33018KT 40.4/17.8 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1525 34017KT 39.4/17.5 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1555 33016KT 39.4/16.9 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1615 33016KT 39.2/11.4 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1629 30016KT 39.1/06.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1644 30015KT 39.1/05.7 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1655 30015KT 39.8/03.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1721 29018KT 39.2/03.4 Q998.9 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1800 29013KT 38.6/00.1 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1900 31011KT 35.6/01.8 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1949 28011KT 40.7/04.5 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1951 27015KT 42.3/04.4 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 1952 24024KT 43.5/05.3 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 58 SPECI 1224 2009 24016KT 38.3/02.7 Q1002.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2100 25012KT 35.6/04.0 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2200 25011KT 34.1/01.8 Q1004.8 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2300 26008KT 33.1/03.1 Q1005.1 RF00.0/000.0 The AWS seems to have been close to the boundary of a weak seabreeze for much of the middle of the day, with the rise in temperature arrested after midday as the wind swung to NNE. At 1426, the AWS sent a SPECI triggered by the wind swinging to NNW and the temperature rapidly rising about 5 degrees. The dew point stayed quite high (around 17/18) however until a further pronounced wind shift to WNW dropped the dew point dramatically around 1630. The temperature dropped to 35.6 at 1900 with sunset approaching and the barometer showing the trough axis passing, but rose rapidly to 43.5 at 1952 as the wind strengthened and swung WSW gusting to 29kt. The maximum of 44.6 reported at midnight seems likely to have occurred close to this time. My theory is that a localised downdraft ducting ahead of a surface trough brought briefly hotter air to the surface in an already hot airstream. Only 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm observations are available from the nearest manual station, Yamba, where the obs are taken at the Pilot Station right on the headland. Here the seabreeze held the temperature down to a maximum of only 26 when read at 3pm, even though the winds at 6, 9, 12 and 15 were very light: N/2, NNW/3, N/9 and NE/5kts respectively. However, Yamba's max thermometer reading at 9am the next day was 39.9, 0.6 higher than their previous December record in 44 years of computerised obs, and 14 degrees higher than their reported max at 3pm 24/12. So I assume that a similar burst of heat arrived at Yamba when the seabreeze was pushed out sometime after 3pm. To the south, Coffs Harbour AP detailed obs were: 59 METAR 1224 1000 33017KT 30.8/17.9 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1030 33018KT 31.9/17.0 Q1001.6 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1100 33016KT 32.8/16.8 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1130 34015KT 32.6/16.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1200 03017KT 30.2/20.8 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1230 04019KT 27.9/21.5 Q1000.1 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1300 04018KT 26.7/21.7 Q999.8 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1330 03018KT 27.2/21.9 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 59 SPECI 1224 1400 03021KT 26.3/21.7 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1430 03019KT 26.9/21.8 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1500 04015KT 27.5/21.6 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1530 04010KT 29.1/20.9 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1543 36005KT 34.2/09.0 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1600 27017G24KT 37.6/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 59 SPECI 1224 1627 27017G28KT 37.3/04.2 Q0998.2 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1700 29015G22KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.1 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1730 29018G24KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1800 29015G23KT 37.3/03.2 Q0998.7 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1830 29015G23KT 36.8/04.1 Q0999.3 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1900 28013G21KT 35.8/03.7 Q1000.0 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 1930 26008G13KT 34.8/03.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2000 27015G23KT 34.8/M01.1 Q1001.9 RF00.0/000.0 59 SPECI 1224 2003 27015G25KT 34.8/M00.6 Q1002.0 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2030 28014G22KT 34.1/01.4 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2100 28013G18KT 33.3/01.0 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2130 29010G15KT 32.5/03.5 Q1003.1 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2200 30006G07KT 30.5/08.6 Q1003.5 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2230 30003G05KT 28.6/08.9 Q1003.6 RF00.0/000.0 59 METAR 1224 2300 30006KT 28.1/09.2 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 The wind shift and increase, temperature rise and dew point fall just before 1600 shows the seabreeze being blown out by the northwesterly. There is a secondary wind shift around 1930, followed by slightly drier air, but no real drama with the temperature. In the well-mixed air behind the trough at 2100, Coffs temperature is 33.3 compared to Evans Head's 35.6. Ballina's hourly readings do show a temperature spike as the secondary trough blew out the seabreeze around 2100. 58 METAR 1224 1200 07011KT 32.6/22.4 Q1002.9 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1300 03012KT 33.6/21.8 Q1001.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1400 36013KT 34.8/20.0 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1500 01010KT 36.6/20.8 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1600 01014KT 35.0/20.9 Q999.2 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1700 01015KT 33.5/22.3 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1800 01011KT 32.6/22.4 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 1900 03003KT 30.2/21.3 Q1000.9 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2000 02005KT 26.5/21.0 Q1002.3 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2100 26009KT 30.4/08.8 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2200 27007KT 29.5/08.0 Q1004.5 RF00.0/000.0 58 METAR 1224 2300 28003KT 27.3/14.0 Q1004.9 RF00.0/000.0 Over the past few days, Evans Head max temps have varied greatly from Yamba's and Ballina's when the location of the seabreeze front has been significant (22nd, 24th) but have been within a degree or two when all have had a full day's seabreeze (23rd) or no seabreeze (25th, 26th). Date: 22 23 24 25 26 Ballina 33 28 37 40 34 Evans Head 40 27 45 41 33 Yamba 25.5 27.0 39.9 39.1 32.3 My conclusion from all of this is that the 44.6 degree maximum, though very transient, seems credible enough to be taken seriously. Any other thoughts? Blair??? Some other records I've noticed from the past few days: 24/12: Alstonville, Michael Bath's local station east of Lismore, also set a new December (computerised) record with 38.6. 25/12: Byron Bay LH recorded 35.1, its highest max for any month in 24 years computer records. Previous highest was 34.6. 25/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.4 (previous December record 42.6 in 32 years) 26/12: Town of 1770 Qld: 33.4 (previous record for any month 33.0 in 14 years) 26/12: Gympie Qld: 42.0 (previous record for any month 41.0 in 36 years) 26/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.7, breaking the record set the previous day Cheers Laurier (from Blackheath, Blue Mountains, where the smoke from the Blaxland fires arrived on the seabreeze front at 7pm) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Heat wave Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 01:00:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well the forecast "cool change" was a bit of a non-event at Mt. Crosby, still hitting a max of 35.5C. However, with DP's down around 3C it felt a lot more comfortable. A late NE seabreeze finally did the trick and 26C felt positively cool. Today makes it the 7th consecutive day with a max over 35C at this location. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:20:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You don't think the proximity to the bush fires had any role to play in the Evans Head max? - do bush fires often influence readings - I would have thought they do. Certainly the fires were very close to the Evans Head AWS and quite fierce on the 24th. You've also mentioned the 22nd. On this day the fires SW of Evans Head were extreme with incredible pyro-cumulus and pyro-cumulonimbus developing all afternoon. Mid afternoon a S wind change forced the smoke northwards enveloping much of the region by late afternoon. Being on a storm chase at the time, we headed to a lookout in the Broadwater National Park north of Evans Head. At a sand dune lookout we observed pyro-cbs just offshore from Evans Head, but also the boundary between the hot NW and the seabreeze was remarkable - on the viewing platform (about 50m from the shore) the cool temps from the NE were battling with the NW, flicking back and forth, so one minute it felt like a fridge opening, then the hot NW would push it back again - this continued for quite some time. There was also a heat shimmer over the entire area each time the NW "won" the battle. I have not observed that effect over the ocean before. regards, Michael At 12:28 AM 28/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: > > Don White wrote: > > > > >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans > > >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > > > > > >Don White > >I can't possibly substitute for Blair, but the 45 at Evans Head has me >fascinated. I'm skeptical, but there are aspects of it that make it very >interesting. > >The AWS there is located 1.7km inland from the beach in coastal scrub, 6km >SW of Evans Head settlement, 29km N of Yamba and 38km SSW of Ballina. It >reported a max of 41 (rounded) at 3pm on the 24th, 44.6 at midnight for the >24 hours to midnight, and 45 (rounded) at 9am on the 25th for the 24 hours >to 9am. The run of obs from the AWS was: > >58 METAR 1224 1000 35007KT 28.0/22.3 Q1005.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1100 35012KT 31.2/22.2 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1200 35015KT 34.0/21.5 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1300 02011KT 31.6/22.3 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1400 03011KT 34.8/21.5 Q999.9 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1426 33014KT 39.9/17.9 Q999.1 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1433 33016KT 40.2/17.6 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1443 34019KT 39.9/17.3 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1455 33016KT 39.2/17.9 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1507 33018KT 40.4/17.8 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1525 34017KT 39.4/17.5 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1555 33016KT 39.4/16.9 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1615 33016KT 39.2/11.4 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1629 30016KT 39.1/06.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1644 30015KT 39.1/05.7 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1655 30015KT 39.8/03.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1721 29018KT 39.2/03.4 Q998.9 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1800 29013KT 38.6/00.1 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1900 31011KT 35.6/01.8 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1949 28011KT 40.7/04.5 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1951 27015KT 42.3/04.4 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 1952 24024KT 43.5/05.3 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 >58 SPECI 1224 2009 24016KT 38.3/02.7 Q1002.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2100 25012KT 35.6/04.0 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2200 25011KT 34.1/01.8 Q1004.8 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2300 26008KT 33.1/03.1 Q1005.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >The AWS seems to have been close to the boundary of a weak seabreeze for >much of the middle of the day, with the rise in temperature arrested after >midday as the wind swung to NNE. At 1426, the AWS sent a SPECI triggered by >the wind swinging to NNW and the temperature rapidly rising about 5 degrees. >The dew point stayed quite high (around 17/18) however until a further >pronounced wind shift to WNW dropped the dew point dramatically around 1630. >The temperature dropped to 35.6 at 1900 with sunset approaching and the >barometer showing the trough axis passing, but rose rapidly to 43.5 at 1952 >as the wind strengthened and swung WSW gusting to 29kt. The maximum of 44.6 >reported at midnight seems likely to have occurred close to this time. My >theory is that a localised downdraft ducting ahead of a surface trough >brought briefly hotter air to the surface in an already hot airstream. > >Only 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm observations are available from the nearest >manual station, Yamba, where the obs are taken at the Pilot Station right on >the headland. Here the seabreeze held the temperature down to a maximum of >only 26 when read at 3pm, even though the winds at 6, 9, 12 and 15 were very >light: N/2, NNW/3, N/9 and NE/5kts respectively. However, Yamba's max >thermometer reading at 9am the next day was 39.9, 0.6 higher than their >previous December record in 44 years of computerised obs, and 14 degrees >higher than their reported max at 3pm 24/12. So I assume that a similar >burst of heat arrived at Yamba when the seabreeze was pushed out sometime >after 3pm. > >To the south, Coffs Harbour AP detailed obs were: > >59 METAR 1224 1000 33017KT 30.8/17.9 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1030 33018KT 31.9/17.0 Q1001.6 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1100 33016KT 32.8/16.8 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1130 34015KT 32.6/16.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1200 03017KT 30.2/20.8 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1230 04019KT 27.9/21.5 Q1000.1 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1300 04018KT 26.7/21.7 Q999.8 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1330 03018KT 27.2/21.9 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 >59 SPECI 1224 1400 03021KT 26.3/21.7 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1430 03019KT 26.9/21.8 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1500 04015KT 27.5/21.6 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1530 04010KT 29.1/20.9 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1543 36005KT 34.2/09.0 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1600 27017G24KT 37.6/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 >59 SPECI 1224 1627 27017G28KT 37.3/04.2 Q0998.2 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1700 29015G22KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.1 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1730 29018G24KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1800 29015G23KT 37.3/03.2 Q0998.7 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1830 29015G23KT 36.8/04.1 Q0999.3 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1900 28013G21KT 35.8/03.7 Q1000.0 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 1930 26008G13KT 34.8/03.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2000 27015G23KT 34.8/M01.1 Q1001.9 RF00.0/000.0 >59 SPECI 1224 2003 27015G25KT 34.8/M00.6 Q1002.0 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2030 28014G22KT 34.1/01.4 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2100 28013G18KT 33.3/01.0 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2130 29010G15KT 32.5/03.5 Q1003.1 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2200 30006G07KT 30.5/08.6 Q1003.5 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2230 30003G05KT 28.6/08.9 Q1003.6 RF00.0/000.0 >59 METAR 1224 2300 30006KT 28.1/09.2 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >The wind shift and increase, temperature rise and dew point fall just before >1600 shows the seabreeze being blown out by the northwesterly. There is a >secondary wind shift around 1930, followed by slightly drier air, but no >real drama with the temperature. In the well-mixed air behind the trough at >2100, Coffs temperature is 33.3 compared to Evans Head's 35.6. > >Ballina's hourly readings do show a temperature spike as the secondary >trough blew out the seabreeze around 2100. > >58 METAR 1224 1200 07011KT 32.6/22.4 Q1002.9 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1300 03012KT 33.6/21.8 Q1001.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1400 36013KT 34.8/20.0 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1500 01010KT 36.6/20.8 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1600 01014KT 35.0/20.9 Q999.2 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1700 01015KT 33.5/22.3 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1800 01011KT 32.6/22.4 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 1900 03003KT 30.2/21.3 Q1000.9 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2000 02005KT 26.5/21.0 Q1002.3 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2100 26009KT 30.4/08.8 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2200 27007KT 29.5/08.0 Q1004.5 RF00.0/000.0 >58 METAR 1224 2300 28003KT 27.3/14.0 Q1004.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >Over the past few days, Evans Head max temps have varied greatly from >Yamba's and Ballina's when the location of the seabreeze front has been >significant (22nd, 24th) but have been within a degree or two when all have >had a full day's seabreeze (23rd) or no seabreeze (25th, 26th). > > Date: 22 23 24 25 26 >Ballina 33 28 37 40 34 >Evans Head 40 27 45 41 33 >Yamba 25.5 27.0 39.9 39.1 32.3 > >My conclusion from all of this is that the 44.6 degree maximum, though very >transient, seems credible enough to be taken seriously. > >Any other thoughts? Blair??? > >Some other records I've noticed from the past few days: > >24/12: Alstonville, Michael Bath's local station east of Lismore, also set a >new December (computerised) record with 38.6. >25/12: Byron Bay LH recorded 35.1, its highest max for any month in 24 years >computer records. Previous highest was 34.6. >25/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.4 (previous December record 42.6 in 32 years) >26/12: Town of 1770 Qld: 33.4 (previous record for any month 33.0 in 14 >years) >26/12: Gympie Qld: 42.0 (previous record for any month 41.0 in 36 years) >26/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.7, breaking the record set the previous day > >Cheers > >Laurier (from Blackheath, Blue Mountains, where the smoke from the Blaxland >fires arrived on the seabreeze front at 7pm) > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 09:00:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And have a look at this for the rainfall outlook: http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/ahead/20011218R.s html Looks like NE NSW/SE Qld is in for something or other... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon" To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Longer > DJ> range, the Bureau seasonal > DJ> forecast (http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/ahead/temps_ahead.shtml) shows > DJ> a weak favouring of above normal day temperatures for JFM, though the > DJ> shifts from normal are small.. > > No probs. :) > > DJ> Dr David Jones > DJ> > DJ> Climate Analysis Section > DJ> National Climate Centre > DJ> Bureau of Meteorology Fax : (+61 3) 9669 4678 > > Well, I'll take your word for the short term forcast. The longer term, well, > anything can happen. :) > > Tony, VK3JED > > .. at C:\BWAVE\TAGLINES.BW > -- > |Fidonet: Tony Langdon 3:633/284.18 > |Internet: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au > | > | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:25:29 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Keith, I cannot access the url below but I am curious. Can you help? Rosalina ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barnett To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... > And have a look at this for the rainfall outlook: > http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/ahead/20011218R.s > html > > Looks like NE NSW/SE Qld is in for something or other... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.10.72.217] From: "Leslie Baxter" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:30:58 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Dec 2001 23:30:58.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[89E3A670:01C18F2E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A merry christmas and a happy new year to all, yeah Christmas was good with lots of cold Cbs around the traps, hmmmm is it suppose to be summer or did someone invite winter for chrisy lunch? Saturday avo is looking good and perhaps another cold snap for new years, damn I'll be down the beach, why can't it be hot and sticky. Have fun everyone Cheers Les Baxter Ballarat Weather >From: "Clyve Herbert" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 >Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 11:28:36 +1100 > >Hi all weather souls. >A merry Christmas from Leopold,at 1000hrs this morning 10.5c heavy showers >and a splattering of hail whoopee,regards Clyve Herbert. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Chas & Helen Osborn >To: >Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:37 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > > > Hello Everyone > > > > Well there are some coldies here at 6.30am EDST. They are not to any >great > > height and are just fibrous at the top. > > We had a thunderstorm last night around 7pm with very heavy rain and a >rumble > > of thunder every five minutes. > > > > Chas > > Strahan Tasmania > > > > Phil Smith wrote: > > > > > The name "Wonthaggi" means "wind and rain" in the aboriginal tongue, >so > > > you'll be right heading that way from that somewhat unscientific point >of > > > view. > > > > > > Phil > > > <>< > > > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > > Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Andrew" > > > To: > > > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2001 14:39:26 +1100 > > > Subject: aus-wx: Vic Coldies 25/12 & 26/12 > > > > > > [snip] > > > > Chances are I'll head out and chase/spot the SE coast down towards > > > > Wonthaggi. The SW facing coastline here is reknowned for producing > > > > spouts in these conditions as well as strong coldies (coldies = cold > > > > air thunderstorms) - possibly due to the convergence of a SW'ly > > > > airstream along the coastline. > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Andrew McDonald > > > > > > > > (Macca-wx ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: This isn't looking good for the fire situation... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:48:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The latest Sydney forecast:
 
 
 
 
I would also be a bit worried about thunderstorms bringing microbursts and a re-run of those severe squalls, due to evaporative cooling in the dry airmass....
 
At least the long term tropical outlook:
 
 
holds some promise (see near the end of 'Intra-seasonal patterns') provided of course the moisture comes south, amongst other things....
From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:04:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think cigarette butts thrown from cars probably account for most of the rest. Terrible smoke haze in the Illawarra today, the smoke has been captured by the light seabreeze inversion. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Godsman" To: Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2001 21:52 Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > Michael, > > Glad to here the big fires around here were started naturally, it makes me > feel a little better about photographing the smoke plumes and staring in awe > at them. The Nowra fires looked positively apocalyptic as I stopped to take > a few pics from Mt Pleasant lookout at the end the Kiama bends just after > lunch on chrissy day. Mind blowing stuff. > > The smkoe plumes have also given me the first decent measureable fall to hit > my rainguage for a few days. 0.2mm of ash in the last 24 or so hours!! It > has been a very dry month so far, 34.9mm compared to our monthly average of > 75mm. November was also low by about 30mm (64m vs 93mm). > > Andrew Godsman > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Thompson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > The fire closest to Wollongong was started by lightning. It was in water > > board catchment wilderness, but moved eastwards to threaten Mount Kembla. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Glen O'Riley" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2001 12:28 > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > > > > Big Cheif in Rosehill says all were deliberately lit. Have been called > > upon > > > twice now, once for Dubbo and once for Gosford but for various reasons, > > the > > > positions fell wayside and other members of the unit went. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Paul Yole" > > > To: "Australian Weather Mailing List" > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 7:12 PM > > > Subject: aus-wx: NSW Fires > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > Just a quick email to ask everyone to say a prayer for all > > > > the firefighters and victims of the NSW fires at the moment. > > > > Being on standby to go there myself, I'm hoping that I won't > > > > be needed, but also want to go and do my part in helping to > > > > stop this force of nature (Although some of the fires have > > > > been deliberately lit) > > > > > > > > Hopefully this will all be over soon and families can start > > > > to rebuild from the ashes. > > > > > > > > PaulY > > > > > > > > Paul Yole > > > > Joint State Rep - Vic ASWA > > > > Editor - ASWA Online Newsletter > > > > Communications Officer - Murtoa CFA > > > > Cell # - +61 418 369 256 > > > > Home# - +61 35 385 2699 > > > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 13:10:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael Having lived on the coast I can verify your story about the shimmering, a slight haze is also often visible on the boundary of seabreeze and hot offshore winds. A similar thing happens underwater when you pass between two different water currents, the boundary is often shimmering, it is to do with light and density. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Friday, 28 December 2001 7:20 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. > You don't think the proximity to the bush fires had any role to play in the > Evans Head max? - do bush fires often influence readings - I would have > thought they do. > > Certainly the fires were very close to the Evans Head AWS and quite fierce > on the 24th. > > You've also mentioned the 22nd. On this day the fires SW of Evans Head were > extreme with incredible pyro-cumulus and pyro-cumulonimbus developing all > afternoon. Mid afternoon a S wind change forced the smoke northwards > enveloping much of the region by late afternoon. Being on a storm chase at > the time, we headed to a lookout in the Broadwater National Park north of > Evans Head. At a sand dune lookout we observed pyro-cbs just offshore from > Evans Head, but also the boundary between the hot NW and the seabreeze was > remarkable - on the viewing platform (about 50m from the shore) the cool > temps from the NE were battling with the NW, flicking back and forth, so > one minute it felt like a fridge opening, then the hot NW would push it > back again - this continued for quite some time. There was also a heat > shimmer over the entire area each time the NW "won" the battle. I have not > observed that effect over the ocean before. > > regards, Michael > > > At 12:28 AM 28/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: > > > Don White wrote: > > > > > > >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans > > > >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > > > > > > > >Don White > > > >I can't possibly substitute for Blair, but the 45 at Evans Head has me > >fascinated. I'm skeptical, but there are aspects of it that make it very > >interesting. > > > >The AWS there is located 1.7km inland from the beach in coastal scrub, 6km > >SW of Evans Head settlement, 29km N of Yamba and 38km SSW of Ballina. It > >reported a max of 41 (rounded) at 3pm on the 24th, 44.6 at midnight for the > >24 hours to midnight, and 45 (rounded) at 9am on the 25th for the 24 hours > >to 9am. The run of obs from the AWS was: > > > >58 METAR 1224 1000 35007KT 28.0/22.3 Q1005.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1100 35012KT 31.2/22.2 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1200 35015KT 34.0/21.5 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1300 02011KT 31.6/22.3 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1400 03011KT 34.8/21.5 Q999.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1426 33014KT 39.9/17.9 Q999.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1433 33016KT 40.2/17.6 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1443 34019KT 39.9/17.3 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1455 33016KT 39.2/17.9 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1507 33018KT 40.4/17.8 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1525 34017KT 39.4/17.5 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1555 33016KT 39.4/16.9 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1615 33016KT 39.2/11.4 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1629 30016KT 39.1/06.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1644 30015KT 39.1/05.7 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1655 30015KT 39.8/03.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1721 29018KT 39.2/03.4 Q998.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1800 29013KT 38.6/00.1 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1900 31011KT 35.6/01.8 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1949 28011KT 40.7/04.5 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1951 27015KT 42.3/04.4 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1952 24024KT 43.5/05.3 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 2009 24016KT 38.3/02.7 Q1002.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2100 25012KT 35.6/04.0 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2200 25011KT 34.1/01.8 Q1004.8 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2300 26008KT 33.1/03.1 Q1005.1 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >The AWS seems to have been close to the boundary of a weak seabreeze for > >much of the middle of the day, with the rise in temperature arrested after > >midday as the wind swung to NNE. At 1426, the AWS sent a SPECI triggered by > >the wind swinging to NNW and the temperature rapidly rising about 5 degrees. > >The dew point stayed quite high (around 17/18) however until a further > >pronounced wind shift to WNW dropped the dew point dramatically around 1630. > >The temperature dropped to 35.6 at 1900 with sunset approaching and the > >barometer showing the trough axis passing, but rose rapidly to 43.5 at 1952 > >as the wind strengthened and swung WSW gusting to 29kt. The maximum of 44.6 > >reported at midnight seems likely to have occurred close to this time. My > >theory is that a localised downdraft ducting ahead of a surface trough > >brought briefly hotter air to the surface in an already hot airstream. > > > >Only 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm observations are available from the nearest > >manual station, Yamba, where the obs are taken at the Pilot Station right on > >the headland. Here the seabreeze held the temperature down to a maximum of > >only 26 when read at 3pm, even though the winds at 6, 9, 12 and 15 were very > >light: N/2, NNW/3, N/9 and NE/5kts respectively. However, Yamba's max > >thermometer reading at 9am the next day was 39.9, 0.6 higher than their > >previous December record in 44 years of computerised obs, and 14 degrees > >higher than their reported max at 3pm 24/12. So I assume that a similar > >burst of heat arrived at Yamba when the seabreeze was pushed out sometime > >after 3pm. > > > >To the south, Coffs Harbour AP detailed obs were: > > > >59 METAR 1224 1000 33017KT 30.8/17.9 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1030 33018KT 31.9/17.0 Q1001.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1100 33016KT 32.8/16.8 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1130 34015KT 32.6/16.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1200 03017KT 30.2/20.8 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1230 04019KT 27.9/21.5 Q1000.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1300 04018KT 26.7/21.7 Q999.8 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1330 03018KT 27.2/21.9 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 1400 03021KT 26.3/21.7 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1430 03019KT 26.9/21.8 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1500 04015KT 27.5/21.6 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1530 04010KT 29.1/20.9 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1543 36005KT 34.2/09.0 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1600 27017G24KT 37.6/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 1627 27017G28KT 37.3/04.2 Q0998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1700 29015G22KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1730 29018G24KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1800 29015G23KT 37.3/03.2 Q0998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1830 29015G23KT 36.8/04.1 Q0999.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1900 28013G21KT 35.8/03.7 Q1000.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1930 26008G13KT 34.8/03.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2000 27015G23KT 34.8/M01.1 Q1001.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 2003 27015G25KT 34.8/M00.6 Q1002.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2030 28014G22KT 34.1/01.4 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2100 28013G18KT 33.3/01.0 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2130 29010G15KT 32.5/03.5 Q1003.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2200 30006G07KT 30.5/08.6 Q1003.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2230 30003G05KT 28.6/08.9 Q1003.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2300 30006KT 28.1/09.2 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >The wind shift and increase, temperature rise and dew point fall just before > >1600 shows the seabreeze being blown out by the northwesterly. There is a > >secondary wind shift around 1930, followed by slightly drier air, but no > >real drama with the temperature. In the well-mixed air behind the trough at > >2100, Coffs temperature is 33.3 compared to Evans Head's 35.6. > > > >Ballina's hourly readings do show a temperature spike as the secondary > >trough blew out the seabreeze around 2100. > > > >58 METAR 1224 1200 07011KT 32.6/22.4 Q1002.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1300 03012KT 33.6/21.8 Q1001.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1400 36013KT 34.8/20.0 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1500 01010KT 36.6/20.8 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1600 01014KT 35.0/20.9 Q999.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1700 01015KT 33.5/22.3 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1800 01011KT 32.6/22.4 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1900 03003KT 30.2/21.3 Q1000.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2000 02005KT 26.5/21.0 Q1002.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2100 26009KT 30.4/08.8 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2200 27007KT 29.5/08.0 Q1004.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2300 28003KT 27.3/14.0 Q1004.9 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >Over the past few days, Evans Head max temps have varied greatly from > >Yamba's and Ballina's when the location of the seabreeze front has been > >significant (22nd, 24th) but have been within a degree or two when all have > >had a full day's seabreeze (23rd) or no seabreeze (25th, 26th). > > > > Date: 22 23 24 25 26 > >Ballina 33 28 37 40 34 > >Evans Head 40 27 45 41 33 > >Yamba 25.5 27.0 39.9 39.1 32.3 > > > >My conclusion from all of this is that the 44.6 degree maximum, though very > >transient, seems credible enough to be taken seriously. > > > >Any other thoughts? Blair??? > > > >Some other records I've noticed from the past few days: > > > >24/12: Alstonville, Michael Bath's local station east of Lismore, also set a > >new December (computerised) record with 38.6. > >25/12: Byron Bay LH recorded 35.1, its highest max for any month in 24 years > >computer records. Previous highest was 34.6. > >25/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.4 (previous December record 42.6 in 32 years) > >26/12: Town of 1770 Qld: 33.4 (previous record for any month 33.0 in 14 > >years) > >26/12: Gympie Qld: 42.0 (previous record for any month 41.0 in 36 years) > >26/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.7, breaking the record set the previous day > > > >Cheers > > > >Laurier (from Blackheath, Blue Mountains, where the smoke from the Blaxland > >fires arrived on the seabreeze front at 7pm) > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ================================================================== > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:22:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite possible, Michael, but they would have had to have been quite close (<~1km) to the AWS to produce this sort of spike. I think it will need a visit to the site to rule the bushfire theory in or out -- can you check it out on your next southbound chase? :) Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Bath > Sent: Friday, 28 December, 2001 7:21 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. > > > You don't think the proximity to the bush fires had any role to > play in the > Evans Head max? - do bush fires often influence readings - I would have > thought they do. > > Certainly the fires were very close to the Evans Head AWS and > quite fierce > on the 24th. > > You've also mentioned the 22nd. On this day the fires SW of Evans > Head were > extreme with incredible pyro-cumulus and pyro-cumulonimbus developing all > afternoon. Mid afternoon a S wind change forced the smoke northwards > enveloping much of the region by late afternoon. Being on a storm > chase at > the time, we headed to a lookout in the Broadwater National Park north of > Evans Head. At a sand dune lookout we observed pyro-cbs just > offshore from > Evans Head, but also the boundary between the hot NW and the > seabreeze was > remarkable - on the viewing platform (about 50m from the shore) the cool > temps from the NE were battling with the NW, flicking back and forth, so > one minute it felt like a fridge opening, then the hot NW would push it > back again - this continued for quite some time. There was also a heat > shimmer over the entire area each time the NW "won" the battle. I > have not > observed that effect over the ocean before. > > regards, Michael > > > At 12:28 AM 28/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: > > > Don White wrote: > > > > > > >And with records possible in Qlnad and NE NSW (what about 45 at Evans > > > >HGead on 24th), where's Blair when you need him? On hols ?? > > > > > > > >Don White > > > >I can't possibly substitute for Blair, but the 45 at Evans Head has me > >fascinated. I'm skeptical, but there are aspects of it that make it very > >interesting. > > > >The AWS there is located 1.7km inland from the beach in coastal > scrub, 6km > >SW of Evans Head settlement, 29km N of Yamba and 38km SSW of Ballina. It > >reported a max of 41 (rounded) at 3pm on the 24th, 44.6 at > midnight for the > >24 hours to midnight, and 45 (rounded) at 9am on the 25th for > the 24 hours > >to 9am. The run of obs from the AWS was: > > > >58 METAR 1224 1000 35007KT 28.0/22.3 Q1005.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1100 35012KT 31.2/22.2 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1200 35015KT 34.0/21.5 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1300 02011KT 31.6/22.3 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1400 03011KT 34.8/21.5 Q999.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1426 33014KT 39.9/17.9 Q999.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1433 33016KT 40.2/17.6 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1443 34019KT 39.9/17.3 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1455 33016KT 39.2/17.9 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1507 33018KT 40.4/17.8 Q998.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1525 34017KT 39.4/17.5 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1555 33016KT 39.4/16.9 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1615 33016KT 39.2/11.4 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1629 30016KT 39.1/06.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1644 30015KT 39.1/05.7 Q998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1655 30015KT 39.8/03.8 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1721 29018KT 39.2/03.4 Q998.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1800 29013KT 38.6/00.1 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1900 31011KT 35.6/01.8 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1949 28011KT 40.7/04.5 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1951 27015KT 42.3/04.4 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 1952 24024KT 43.5/05.3 Q1002.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 SPECI 1224 2009 24016KT 38.3/02.7 Q1002.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2100 25012KT 35.6/04.0 Q1004.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2200 25011KT 34.1/01.8 Q1004.8 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2300 26008KT 33.1/03.1 Q1005.1 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >The AWS seems to have been close to the boundary of a weak seabreeze for > >much of the middle of the day, with the rise in temperature > arrested after > >midday as the wind swung to NNE. At 1426, the AWS sent a SPECI > triggered by > >the wind swinging to NNW and the temperature rapidly rising > about 5 degrees. > >The dew point stayed quite high (around 17/18) however until a further > >pronounced wind shift to WNW dropped the dew point dramatically > around 1630. > >The temperature dropped to 35.6 at 1900 with sunset approaching and the > >barometer showing the trough axis passing, but rose rapidly to > 43.5 at 1952 > >as the wind strengthened and swung WSW gusting to 29kt. The > maximum of 44.6 > >reported at midnight seems likely to have occurred close to this time. My > >theory is that a localised downdraft ducting ahead of a surface trough > >brought briefly hotter air to the surface in an already hot airstream. > > > >Only 6am, 9am, noon and 3pm observations are available from the nearest > >manual station, Yamba, where the obs are taken at the Pilot > Station right on > >the headland. Here the seabreeze held the temperature down to a > maximum of > >only 26 when read at 3pm, even though the winds at 6, 9, 12 and > 15 were very > >light: N/2, NNW/3, N/9 and NE/5kts respectively. However, Yamba's max > >thermometer reading at 9am the next day was 39.9, 0.6 higher than their > >previous December record in 44 years of computerised obs, and 14 degrees > >higher than their reported max at 3pm 24/12. So I assume that a similar > >burst of heat arrived at Yamba when the seabreeze was pushed out sometime > >after 3pm. > > > >To the south, Coffs Harbour AP detailed obs were: > > > >59 METAR 1224 1000 33017KT 30.8/17.9 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1030 33018KT 31.9/17.0 Q1001.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1100 33016KT 32.8/16.8 Q1001.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1130 34015KT 32.6/16.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1200 03017KT 30.2/20.8 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1230 04019KT 27.9/21.5 Q1000.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1300 04018KT 26.7/21.7 Q999.8 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1330 03018KT 27.2/21.9 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 1400 03021KT 26.3/21.7 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1430 03019KT 26.9/21.8 Q998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1500 04015KT 27.5/21.6 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1530 04010KT 29.1/20.9 Q998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1543 36005KT 34.2/09.0 Q998.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1600 27017G24KT 37.6/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 1627 27017G28KT 37.3/04.2 Q0998.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1700 29015G22KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1730 29018G24KT 37.4/03.8 Q0998.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1800 29015G23KT 37.3/03.2 Q0998.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1830 29015G23KT 36.8/04.1 Q0999.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1900 28013G21KT 35.8/03.7 Q1000.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 1930 26008G13KT 34.8/03.9 Q1001.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2000 27015G23KT 34.8/M01.1 Q1001.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 SPECI 1224 2003 27015G25KT 34.8/M00.6 Q1002.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2030 28014G22KT 34.1/01.4 Q1002.4 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2100 28013G18KT 33.3/01.0 Q1002.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2130 29010G15KT 32.5/03.5 Q1003.1 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2200 30006G07KT 30.5/08.6 Q1003.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2230 30003G05KT 28.6/08.9 Q1003.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >59 METAR 1224 2300 30006KT 28.1/09.2 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >The wind shift and increase, temperature rise and dew point fall > just before > >1600 shows the seabreeze being blown out by the northwesterly. There is a > >secondary wind shift around 1930, followed by slightly drier air, but no > >real drama with the temperature. In the well-mixed air behind > the trough at > >2100, Coffs temperature is 33.3 compared to Evans Head's 35.6. > > > >Ballina's hourly readings do show a temperature spike as the secondary > >trough blew out the seabreeze around 2100. > > > >58 METAR 1224 1200 07011KT 32.6/22.4 Q1002.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1300 03012KT 33.6/21.8 Q1001.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1400 36013KT 34.8/20.0 Q1000.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1500 01010KT 36.6/20.8 Q999.6 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1600 01014KT 35.0/20.9 Q999.2 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1700 01015KT 33.5/22.3 Q999.0 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1800 01011KT 32.6/22.4 Q999.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 1900 03003KT 30.2/21.3 Q1000.9 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2000 02005KT 26.5/21.0 Q1002.3 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2100 26009KT 30.4/08.8 Q1003.7 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2200 27007KT 29.5/08.0 Q1004.5 RF00.0/000.0 > >58 METAR 1224 2300 28003KT 27.3/14.0 Q1004.9 RF00.0/000.0 > > > >Over the past few days, Evans Head max temps have varied greatly from > >Yamba's and Ballina's when the location of the seabreeze front has been > >significant (22nd, 24th) but have been within a degree or two > when all have > >had a full day's seabreeze (23rd) or no seabreeze (25th, 26th). > > > > Date: 22 23 24 25 26 > >Ballina 33 28 37 40 34 > >Evans Head 40 27 45 41 33 > >Yamba 25.5 27.0 39.9 39.1 32.3 > > > >My conclusion from all of this is that the 44.6 degree maximum, > though very > >transient, seems credible enough to be taken seriously. > > > >Any other thoughts? Blair??? > > > >Some other records I've noticed from the past few days: > > > >24/12: Alstonville, Michael Bath's local station east of > Lismore, also set a > >new December (computerised) record with 38.6. > >25/12: Byron Bay LH recorded 35.1, its highest max for any month > in 24 years > >computer records. Previous highest was 34.6. > >25/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.4 (previous December record 42.6 in 32 years) > >26/12: Town of 1770 Qld: 33.4 (previous record for any month 33.0 in 14 > >years) > >26/12: Gympie Qld: 42.0 (previous record for any month 41.0 in 36 years) > >26/12: Baralaba PO Qld: 43.7, breaking the record set the previous day > > > >Cheers > > > >Laurier (from Blackheath, Blue Mountains, where the smoke from > the Blaxland > >fires arrived on the seabreeze front at 7pm) > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > ================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ================================================================== > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:38:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp extremes. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I called Halden Boyd who lives at Evans Head and faces the direction of the fire. He said the blaze did come very close to the AWS, in fact could have passed the area it is located. So the bushfire most likely played some part in the extreme temperature measured. regards, Michael At 10:22 AM 28/12/2001 +1100, you wrote: >Quite possible, Michael, but they would have had to have been quite close >(<~1km) to the AWS to produce this sort of spike. I think it will need a >visit to the site to rule the bushfire theory in or out -- can you check it >out on your next southbound chase? :) > >Laurier ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 16:51:08 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart tornado: radar Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Has anyone got any radar saved from this event? Late afternoon on 26th December, probably around 7pm. Please email to me at mbath at ozemail.com.au ta ================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ ================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p221-nas11.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.213.221] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: NSW waterspout Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:00:20 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I reckon this waterspout is one of the more interesting tornadic events to occur in Australasia. It looked
dangerous which is unusual for downunder tornadoes. One can only imagine what damage it could have done
on land. I'm glad somebody was there to film it. The ocean area just east of NSW/Vic seems to be a very
unstable area. Alot of severe cb develops there, and all year round. It does tend to weaken though as it moves
out into the Tasman sea. This week was an exception though with the cb staying strong on its passage
to NZ giving big rainfall totals to the west coast. Upto 200mm localised.
Regards
Steven Williams (NZ)
X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p221-nas11.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.213.221] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: aus-wx: South Island Thunderstorms today Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 21:11:12 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Widespread thunderstorms occurred over the South island today with plenty of hail. Hail 15mm reported from near Christchurch.
We've got Melbourne's boxing day weather in Auckland today, cool and blustery with showers. Temp 21C so not as cold.
I find it curious that Melbourne can record such low temperatures in late December given its latitude.
Regards
Steven Williams
Auckland
From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: New Year's Eve Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:42:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Following the relative success of the social 'meeting' on Friday there will be a further  New Year's Eve gathering at my place this coming Monday night.
Time:7.30pm onwards
Place: 96 Solander Road Seven Hills (corner Solander and Crews Rds).
Bring yourself and any family or friends who share a common interest in all things meteorological, along with videos, photos,weather data/records you would like people to see, etc.
We will be having pizza so bring some money if you would like to participate in that, and some nibblies and drinks if you wish.
 
How to get there: If coming from the south the street is 2km north of Seven Hills Railway Station off Seven Hills Rd, on the left. If you are coming from elsewhere, get to the large roundabout at the intersection of Windsor and Seven Hills Roads and follow Seven Hills Road in a southerly direction for about 500-600 metres.No. 96 is about 150 metres along Solander Rd, on the corner of Crews Rd (a white fibro house with a dilapidated letterbox).
 
If you are coming by train and need transport from Seven Hills station please give Jimmy Deguara a call on 0408 020 468.
 
Please let me know (privately) if you will be coming so I can get some idea of numbers.
 
Thanks
 
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 23:48:02 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Australian Weather Mailing List Subject: aus-wx: Storm Potential Over the Next Few Days Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well - the next week could become quite interesting! Especially for S QLD and parts of N NSW. This trough, while it does look very similar to the last trough looks like it could have a few differences that will create a more storm friendly environment - well, we can only hope anyway :) Saturday: AVN suggests the best instability is going to lie off the NSW coast. NSW seems to like putting out impressive displays of storms...out to sea where no one can join them! Granted, I haven't looked at shear for out there though. I suspect, a cold pool or upper trough of some sort is probably lingering around the area, that and that will be where the moisture tongue from the N to NE'lies will get into. That extends a band of instability (geez, I sound like Monty), back through into NE NSW, SE QLD and through to Wide Bay and Capricornia. -2 to -4 LIs over the NE NSW and SE QLD region, -4 to -6 over Capricornia. That upper trough will probably arc over a little over the NE NSW and SE QLD region, which may help a little - hopefully get and maintain our 500 temps down to -10 or so, and 300 around -36/-37. Not overly cold - but not overly warm either, and with DPs set to be around 20 and temps in the low 30s, it should be enough instability. I'm thinking the moist layer will be relatively deep, the seabreeze this arvo brought with it some nice low level scud, that should maintain to a geostrophic NE'ly flow tonight and persist into tomorrow. DPs will probably drop back into the high teens for max heating due to a little mixing though. This (the lack of a well mixed moist layer), and the cap in the low levels were the killers during last week. AVN suggests cooler temps at 850 for tomorrow, around 18, quickly creeping up to 20 or so in the Downs. This is quite warm still, but a far cry from the mid 20 850 temps we were getting last week, so the cap should be breakable. The trough will probably sit on the edge of NE NSW, and into the Downs and Central Highlands and Coalfields districts for tomorrow, so this puts the coast in a nice position, and the high is in a good place to feed in some moisture. Shear is also quite good considering we're nearly in January! 15 knots NE at SFC, 5-10 knots NNW at 850, 15-20 knots W'ly at 700, 35-40 knots SW at 500, 70-75 knots SW at 300. So nice backing in the low levels, although the 850 is a bit weak, I suspect that this is underforecasted though as per usual. It would probably be tempting to head for the lower LIs further north, but I think the entire region SE QLD/Wide Bay/Capricornia shouldn't do too badly storm wise. The best shear is around SE QLD, and then you trade off shear for instability as you track further north - but this is not a significant trade-off. Sunday Sunday at first looks like it'll be better (if you look at instability), but I have a feeling it might be slightly riskier. AVN goes for strong instability (LIs of -6 to -8) over NE NSW and SE QLD, extending through into the N Downs and then Central Highlands and Coalfields districts. A broader area of -4 to -6 exists around most of the SE quarter of QLD, and the NE coastal area of NSW. The additional risk? It is going to start warming up very rapidly to our west over central QLD and central NSW. AVN is still kind enough to prog 850 temps of 18-19C over SE QLD, a little cooler over Wide Bay though! The magic "+20" taps into NE NSW and over the Downs, so a little closer to the coast. I'm thinking it shouldn't be a problem *if this is how it happens* - my concern is that 850 temps could go a little hire when the day comes around, but that's basically a waiting game. The 700 temps also look to rise a smidgeon (to around +7) as the 700mb ridge encroaches and I imagine that 500mb temps will drop a degree or so too (maybe -9C). The high doesn't look like moving too quickly eastwards, so I suspect the upper trough that is sitting over the Tasman Sea will remain around the same area but it will probably weaken a little. Ditto for 300mb temps. Once again, shear doesn't look to be too bad. The main convernce area will probably sit 100km or so further west than Saturday, but still the coast should still be OK. My concern is the progged W'ly component in the 850 winds, NW (10-15knots) over Brisbane (that's good), what's bad is that those NW winds were originally W'lies over central QLD. NE winds 10-15 knots at the surface, WSW 10-15knots at 700mb, 35-40knots SW at 500mb and 65-0 knots WSW at 300mb. Slightly weaker, but the additional instability will probably offset that a fair amount. SE QLD/NE NSW/Wide Bay all look like they could be nice..as could some of the regions just west of the ranges...depending on that cap. The elevated regions could get hot enough though inland (eg, Downs and Coalfields) to push some thermals through though - potential supercell development if they do. Monday Monday has a much broader area of instability - the LI pattern is something that occurs with a potential rain event coming up, but we'll see! -6 to -8 LIs once again over Brisbane (well, the bayside suburbs are "only" -4 to -6, but the western half -6 to -8, so say -6 over Brisbane, decreasing westwards). Moree and Charleville have decided to boast some -8 to -10 LIs. The main concern on this day is the potential for cloud, there will be a strengthening jet moving over, so cloud could be on the cards. 850 temps are progged to drop a little (potentially due to possible forecast cloud cover by AVN), but not significantly cooler on the coast (17/18), but 18 persisting through to the western side of the ranges too. With the strengthening jet, that will no doubt be a strengthening upper level trough somewhere to the SWish (over Vic) - but probably upper temps remaining the same over SE QLD...althoug if you look at the 300mb shear, it pushes the STJ (Sub Tropical Jet) over NE NSW, which would suggest some warming at 300mb over QLD. Speaking of shear...the main surface convergences get pushed a little further west again, back into central QLD. That could mean better storms to the west, but with lower 850 temps, a trough and very strong instability, things could fire too early on the trough. Surface looks like NE'lies 10-15knots, NW 20-25knots at 850 (this time originating from the N instead of the west), a rather diffluent 700mb, 10 knots over Brisbane from the west. Getting back up to 20knots over the western Downs though. 20 knots W'ly at 500mb, increasing to 40knots towards Gundy. Up to 80 knots at 500mb down near Vic! (Err, it's summer right, not winter???) 55-60 knots over SE QLD from the SW at 300mb, increasing southwards to 70-80knots (and also to the SW). Monday may well be better inland - but the coast certainly has a fair chance, but I do hold a few concerns for cloud (but the higher sheared areas of N NSW may bear the brunt of any cloud that comes across as they'll be under the jet, while S QLD will sit just to the north). At this stage, Tuesday could be quite good for SE QLD - but we'll see. After Tuesday, we might be greeted with some substantially drier weather...hopefully that fire weather doesn't arrive here! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart tornado: radar Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 02:20:20 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2001 15:25:00.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[D06FCB70:01C18FB3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Found some radar in my cache, will upload them tonite, URL to follow! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart tornado: radar > Hi, > > Has anyone got any radar saved from this event? > > Late afternoon on 26th December, probably around 7pm. > > Please email to me at mbath at ozemail.com.au > > ta > > > > > > > ================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia webmaster: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > ================================================================== > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart tornado: radar Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 03:08:59 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2001 16:14:53.0858 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8CBE820:01C18FBA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com www.geocities.com/simonstdu_2001/tornado.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Subject: aus-wx: Web hosting Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 03:58:25 +1100 Organization: SIMONS Thunder Down Under 2001 (www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001) X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2001 16:58:48.0591 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB3841F0:01C18FC0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all with my website slowly taking shape, im just wondering if anyone knows of a cheap but Good web page hosting company, i dont wasnt to spend more then $15p/m, $10p/m preferably! ATM i use geocities and once i upload more than a certain amount of info, it doesnt let the page to be viewed for an hour, plus it has a 15mb storage capacity, which is fine for now, but im sure i will need more than that once i start getting sattelite and radar on the site! The company must have these! >www.yourdomain.com(.au)< 30-50mb capacity, FTP compatability, a reliable server, and technical support email me privatly if you wish! Cheers Simons Thunder downunder www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/ and the new site in development www.geocities.com/simonstdu_2001/ By Simon Angell Reply via, tdu_webmaster at iprimus.com.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [165.228.129.11] From: "David Sercombe" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 22:15:23 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2001 22:15:23.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[253BC620:01C18FED] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Rosalina, Somehow Keith managed to accidentally cut off the end of the URL. It should read http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/ahead/20011218R.shtml Hi Keith, I cannot access the url below but I am curious. Can you help? Rosalina ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barnett To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... >And have a look at this for the rainfall outlook: > http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/ahead/20011218R.s >html > >Looks like NE NSW/SE Qld is in for something or other... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rosalina Champion" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne's summer... Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 08:58:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi David, Thank u. Keith and Jason have already rectified the URL. Sure wish some of that rain could be spread over NSW right now. Rosalina > Hi Rosalina, > Somehow Keith managed to accidentally cut off the end of the URL. It should > read > http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/ahead/20011218R.s html > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Storm Potential Over the Next Few Days Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 10:24:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Dec 2001 23:26:13.0316 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A27D040:01C18FF7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Supercell and all. I agree with some of your prognosis,although there is a similarity to this weeks mid lat type trough I think the surface trough will stall over eastern central NSW northeast NSW and south east QLD. Pressure over most of Aus is below average and the low south of the Bight looks to fall below 970hpa,the high southwest of Perth looks to ridge to higher Lat. Melbourne and southern Vic should see its 30+c day today for this summer season.regards Clyve Herbert. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Australian Weather Mailing List Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:48 AM Subject: aus-wx: Storm Potential Over the Next Few Days > Hi all, > > Well - the next week could become quite interesting! Especially for S > QLD and parts of N NSW. This trough, while it does look very similar to > the last trough looks like it could have a few differences that will > create a more storm friendly environment - well, we can only hope anyway > :) > > Saturday: > > AVN suggests the best instability is going to lie off the NSW coast. > NSW seems to like putting out impressive displays of storms...out to sea > where no one can join them! Granted, I haven't looked at shear for out > there though. I suspect, a cold pool or upper trough of some sort is > probably lingering around the area, that and that will be where the > moisture tongue from the N to NE'lies will get into. That extends a > band of instability (geez, I sound like Monty), back through into NE > NSW, SE QLD and through to Wide Bay and Capricornia. -2 to -4 LIs over > the NE NSW and SE QLD region, -4 to -6 over Capricornia. That upper > trough will probably arc over a little over the NE NSW and SE QLD > region, which may help a little - hopefully get and maintain our 500 > temps down to -10 or so, and 300 around -36/-37. Not overly cold - but > not overly warm either, and with DPs set to be around 20 and temps in > the low 30s, it should be enough instability. > > I'm thinking the moist layer will be relatively deep, the seabreeze this > arvo brought with it some nice low level scud, that should maintain to a > geostrophic NE'ly flow tonight and persist into tomorrow. DPs will > probably drop back into the high teens for max heating due to a little > mixing though. This (the lack of a well mixed moist layer), and the cap > in the low levels were the killers during last week. AVN suggests > cooler temps at 850 for tomorrow, around 18, quickly creeping up to 20 > or so in the Downs. This is quite warm still, but a far cry from the > mid 20 850 temps we were getting last week, so the cap should be > breakable. The trough will probably sit on the edge of NE NSW, and into > the Downs and Central Highlands and Coalfields districts for tomorrow, > so this puts the coast in a nice position, and the high is in a good > place to feed in some moisture. > > Shear is also quite good considering we're nearly in January! 15 knots > NE at SFC, 5-10 knots NNW at 850, 15-20 knots W'ly at 700, 35-40 knots SW at > 500, 70-75 knots SW at 300. So nice backing in the low levels, although > the 850 is a bit weak, I suspect that this is underforecasted though as > per usual. > > It would probably be tempting to head for the lower LIs further north, > but I think the entire region SE QLD/Wide Bay/Capricornia shouldn't do > too badly storm wise. The best shear is around SE QLD, and then you > trade off shear for instability as you track further north - but this is > not a significant trade-off. > > Sunday > > Sunday at first looks like it'll be better (if you look at instability), > but I have a feeling it might be slightly riskier. AVN goes for strong > instability (LIs of -6 to -8) over NE NSW and SE QLD, extending through > into the N Downs and then Central Highlands and Coalfields districts. A > broader area of -4 to -6 exists around most of the SE quarter of QLD, > and the NE coastal area of NSW. > > The additional risk? It is going to start warming up very rapidly to > our west over central QLD and central NSW. AVN is still kind enough to > prog 850 temps of 18-19C over SE QLD, a little cooler over Wide Bay > though! The magic "+20" taps into NE NSW and over the Downs, so a > little closer to the coast. I'm thinking it shouldn't be a problem *if > this is how it happens* - my concern is that 850 temps could go a little > hire when the day comes around, but that's basically a waiting game. > The 700 temps also look to rise a smidgeon (to around +7) as the 700mb > ridge encroaches and I imagine that 500mb temps will drop a degree or so > too (maybe -9C). The high doesn't look like moving too quickly > eastwards, so I suspect the upper trough that is sitting over the Tasman > Sea will remain around the same area but it will probably weaken a > little. Ditto for 300mb temps. > > Once again, shear doesn't look to be too bad. The main convernce area > will probably sit 100km or so further west than Saturday, but still the > coast should still be OK. My concern is the progged W'ly component in > the 850 winds, NW (10-15knots) over Brisbane (that's good), what's bad > is that those NW winds were originally W'lies over central QLD. NE > winds 10-15 knots at the surface, WSW 10-15knots at 700mb, 35-40knots SW > at 500mb and 65-0 knots WSW at 300mb. Slightly weaker, but the additional > instability will probably offset that a fair amount. > > SE QLD/NE NSW/Wide Bay all look like they could be nice..as could some > of the regions just west of the ranges...depending on that cap. The > elevated regions could get hot enough though inland (eg, Downs and > Coalfields) to push some thermals through though - potential supercell > development if they do. > > Monday > > Monday has a much broader area of instability - the LI pattern is > something that occurs with a potential rain event coming up, but we'll > see! -6 to -8 LIs once again over Brisbane (well, the bayside suburbs > are "only" -4 to -6, but the western half -6 to -8, so say -6 over > Brisbane, decreasing westwards). Moree and Charleville have decided to > boast some -8 to -10 LIs. The main concern on this day is the potential > for cloud, there will be a strengthening jet moving over, so cloud could > be on the cards. 850 temps are progged to drop a little (potentially > due to possible forecast cloud cover by AVN), but not significantly > cooler on the coast (17/18), but 18 persisting through to the western > side of the ranges too. With the strengthening jet, that will no doubt > be a strengthening upper level trough somewhere to the SWish (over Vic) > - but probably upper temps remaining the same over SE QLD...althoug if > you look at the 300mb shear, it pushes the STJ (Sub Tropical Jet) over > NE NSW, which would suggest some warming at 300mb over QLD. > > Speaking of shear...the main surface convergences get pushed a little > further west again, back into central QLD. That could mean better > storms to the west, but with lower 850 temps, a trough and very strong > instability, things could fire too early on the trough. Surface looks > like NE'lies 10-15knots, NW 20-25knots at 850 (this time originating from > the N instead of the west), a rather diffluent 700mb, 10 knots over > Brisbane from the west. Getting back up to 20knots over the western > Downs though. 20 knots W'ly at 500mb, increasing to 40knots towards > Gundy. Up to 80 knots at 500mb down near Vic! (Err, it's summer right, > not winter???) 55-60 knots over SE QLD from the SW at 300mb, increasing > southwards to 70-80knots (and also to the SW). Monday may well be > better inland - but the coast certainly has a fair chance, but I do hold > a few concerns for cloud (but the higher sheared areas of N NSW may bear > the brunt of any cloud that comes across as they'll be under the jet, > while S QLD will sit just to the north). > > At this stage, Tuesday could be quite good for SE QLD - but we'll see. > After Tuesday, we might be greeted with some substantially drier > weather...hopefully that fire weather doesn't arrive here! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Web hosting Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 12:45:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Simon I have been with Below10 hosting for a year now and have not had one single problem. I cannot comment on Technical Support as I have never had to use it. But the site is always up and quick. My site is http://ozthunder.com My host is http://www.below10host.com/ Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie weather" Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2001 3:58 Subject: aus-wx: Web hosting > Hi all > with my website slowly taking shape, im just wondering if anyone knows of a > cheap but Good web page hosting company, i dont wasnt to spend more then > $15p/m, $10p/m preferably! > > ATM i use geocities and once i upload more than a certain amount of info, it > doesnt let the page to be viewed for an hour, plus it has a 15mb storage > capacity, which is fine for now, but im sure i will need more than that once > i start getting sattelite and radar on the site! > > The company must have these! > >www.yourdomain.com(.au)< > 30-50mb capacity, > FTP compatability, > a reliable server, > and technical support > > email me privatly if you wish! > > Cheers > > Simons Thunder downunder > www.geocities.com/simons_tdu2001/ > and the new site in development > www.geocities.com/simonstdu_2001/ > By Simon Angell > Reply via, > tdu_webmaster at iprimus.com.au > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Cloud splotch, NT. and other bits Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:58:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Dec 2001 08:00:02.0512 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1C9CD00:01C1903E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all tropos.
A rather interesting thunderstorm complex north of Yirrkala and northeast of Maningrida this afternoon showing some weak outflow,also some high based storms west of Mildura this evening,should be better for NSW in a line from Cobar to the northeast of Victoria and east of that line on Sunday happy new year to all the weather people. regards Clyve H.
From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: PICS: Awesome Cg's Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 20:04:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
evening all!
well, as some would know, Gold Coast was hit by another decent storm exactly a week after the destructive wind storm which made a mess of the southport area. this storm popped up suddenly just south of beaudesert. it went from dark blue to yellow to pink in a short period of time when it started to pump out these cg's
it stopped producing visible bolts when the rain arrived. the rain lasted over half an hour at a steady rate. i caught this strike during the rain bout half hour after the last pic.
another half hour or more after that, the storm had just passed southport when i noticed it was now giving off even better cg's. had to get on the roof for these ones
 
some more storm pictures while i was near grafton on the 22nd
 
cyas
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
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From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: PICS: Awesome Cg's Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:37:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Great photos Steve... Must have been a great storm.
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
To: weather
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:04 PM
Subject: aus-wx: PICS: Awesome Cg's

evening all!
well, as some would know, Gold Coast was hit by another decent storm exactly a week after the destructive wind storm which made a mess of the southport area. this storm popped up suddenly just south of beaudesert. it went from dark blue to yellow to pink in a short period of time when it started to pump out these cg's
it stopped producing visible bolts when the rain arrived. the rain lasted over half an hour at a steady rate. i caught this strike during the rain bout half hour after the last pic.
another half hour or more after that, the storm had just passed southport when i noticed it was now giving off even better cg's. had to get on the roof for these ones
 
some more storm pictures while i was near grafton on the 22nd
 
cyas
 
 
 
Steve Baynham
icq : 26863574
http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany
 
Brisbane Storm Chasers
http://www.bsch.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Association
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 

 
From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: aus-wx: BOM NSW OBSERVATIONS Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 10:43:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Has anyone noticed that the BOM website has not updated any observations for the Sydney region since 0800 ? Normally this updates every hour (?) Does anyone know what the problem is ?
 
 
Peter Konnecke
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:25:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2001 00:27:24.0880 (UTC) FILETIME=[C0FDC500:01C190C8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
A large cloud area over the NT and north of Darwin continues to show some moderate upper divergence, although rather disorganised at the lower levels with not so good inflow and convergence, worth keeping an occasional eye on over the nest 24 hours. Also the trough over NSW is looking ok except for the dry environmental conditions, although this should improve today with stronger north easterlies east of the range. regards Clyve H.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:24:36 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI Clyve,
 
Yeah some models have picked up this low and have it deepening sometime later this week.
 
The 10 Day COLA Rain outlook has it nicely.....
 
 
Pity that the main rain area isnt a little more westerly. We are currently in a "mini-drought" here in Darwin, with very hot and humid days, with little else happening (other then some overnight action....)
 
Hoping that this torugh produces something other then humidity!
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi all.
A large cloud area over the NT and north of Darwin continues to show some moderate upper divergence, although rather disorganised at the lower levels with not so good inflow and convergence, worth keeping an occasional eye on over the nest 24 hours. Also the trough over NSW is looking ok except for the dry environmental conditions, although this should improve today with stronger north easterlies east of the range. regards Clyve H.
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 15:12:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I wonder why WA has a purple patch (>%400 of normal)? But then of course 'normal' there for January would be fairly low..so it probably has little significance. Pity SE Australia though...
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

HI Clyve,
 
Yeah some models have picked up this low and have it deepening sometime later this week.
 
The 10 Day COLA Rain outlook has it nicely.....
 
 
Pity that the main rain area isnt a little more westerly. We are currently in a "mini-drought" here in Darwin, with very hot and humid days, with little else happening (other then some overnight action....)
 
Hoping that this torugh produces something other then humidity!
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 9:55 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi all.
A large cloud area over the NT and north of Darwin continues to show some moderate upper divergence, although rather disorganised at the lower levels with not so good inflow and convergence, worth keeping an occasional eye on over the nest 24 hours. Also the trough over NSW is looking ok except for the dry environmental conditions, although this should improve today with stronger north easterlies east of the range. regards Clyve H.
X-Originating-IP: [144.134.173.31] From: "Nathan Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:52:35 +1000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Dec 2001 04:52:35.0467 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC70ADB0:01C190ED] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com looks like the gold coast is about to go off!!! huge cells due west at the moment!!! here's hoping should be good nate _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:52:52 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:24:29 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: aus-wx: YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 21:11 28/12/01 +1300, you wrote: > Widespread thunderstorms occurred over the South island today with >plenty of hail. Hail 15mm reported from near Christchurch. We've got >Melbourne's boxing day weather in Auckland today, cool and blustery with >showers. Temp 21C so not as cold. I find it curious that Melbourne can >record such low temperatures in late December given its latitude. Regards >Steven Williams Auckland Back today after the Christmas break and you wouldn't believe it. After a year without thunder activity, we have just had 3 days of thunderstorms here in Christchurch, well around Christchurch and Canterbury whilst I was away. I'll try and get some info about the storms from the 'other half' of the NZTS JohnGaul NZ Thunderstorm Soc +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:08:06 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul" To: "Aus Wx" Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:32:04 +1100 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2360) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) Subject: aus-wx: Seeking a member on the list Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi y'all I am looking for John Graham of Ballina, I have lost his email addy and ICQ number, if anyone could help, please email me. Thanx ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Rands prands at efter-stormen.com - ICQ UIN: 137833127 "If you eliminate all other possibilities, what remains is the answer no matter how improbable it may appear." +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Authentication-Warning: smtp1.ihug.co.nz: Host p156-nas6.akl.ihug.co.nz [203.173.216.156] claimed to be default From: "Steven Williams" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:37:48 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Seasons greetings, Take a look at this sat pic John for 28th. http://satellite.landcare.cri.nz/noaa/?history=ld28121.txt click to enlarge. The surface low shows up well just of the West Coast (Haast). Note the developing storm just west of Christchurch. This no doubt was the Rangiora hail storm. Tropical Cyclone Waka shouldn't affect our weather (pity). Rather, looks like New Zealand (and Victoria) will have an unseasonable cold outbreak. Canterbury may get more thunderstorms/hail by the weekend. Cheers Steven Williams Auckland weather observer ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gaul" To: Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:24 PM Subject: aus-wx: YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE IT > At 21:11 28/12/01 +1300, you wrote: > > Widespread thunderstorms occurred over the South island today with > >plenty of hail. Hail 15mm reported from near Christchurch. We've got > >Melbourne's boxing day weather in Auckland today, cool and blustery with > >showers. Temp 21C so not as cold. I find it curious that Melbourne can > >record such low temperatures in late December given its latitude. Regards > >Steven Williams Auckland > > Back today after the Christmas break and you wouldn't believe it. > After a year without thunder activity, we have just had 3 days of > thunderstorms here in Christchurch, well around Christchurch and Canterbury > whilst I was away. > I'll try and get some info about the storms from the 'other half' of the NZTS > > > JohnGaul > NZ Thunderstorm Soc > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:26:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so..
 
 
but that might be the end of it soon...
 
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No sign of the eye on satellitehttp://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes.
NIWA NZ institute water and atmos were suggesting this summer was going to be active for tropical cyclones,
particularly Mar/Apr. I hope so. They are great storms to look at on the satellite.
Cheers
Steven Williams
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this

Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so..
 
 
but that might be the end of it soon...
 
From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:10:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
There's an eye in this image
 
 
This is the latest one from the Fiji Meteorological Service and was about midnight Fiji time and roughly matches this chart:
 
 
I think it gave Samoa a bit of a caning yesterday.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this

No sign of the eye on satellitehttp://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes.
NIWA NZ institute water and atmos were suggesting this summer was going to be active for tropical cyclones,
particularly Mar/Apr. I hope so. They are great storms to look at on the satellite.
Cheers
Steven Williams
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this

Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so..
 
 
but that might be the end of it soon...
 
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: aus-wx: Aussie Record? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:02:30 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I am surprised that this has not been raised before?
 
Check out these records (courtesy of Laurier's webpage):
 
TASMANIA
   
N Coast
CAPE GRIM B.A.P.S.
184.8mm in 1 hr to 12:00 184.8mm/h
185.0mm in 3 hr to 12:00 61.7mm/h
14.6mm in 1 hr to 14:00 14.6mm/h
989.0mm in 6 hr to 21:00 164.8mm/h
If this is true( has it been confirmed anyone?) this would have to be an Aussie Record (as well as a Tassie one - ie 989mm in 6 hrs! The 184 mm in 1 hr aint bad either....)?
 
Paul.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:08:54 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:29:27 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all - nice rain outlook for us at last. Would see the end of our "mini-drought"!
 
Paul.
 
From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:57:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Paul,
How unlucky could they be... It missed the lighting rod!!! That would have to be the most unluckiest radar ever!
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aussie Record? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:34:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sorry to disappoint, but it was an error, Paul. The page is put together automatically from Bureau data, and, being a list of extremes, is very good at picking up errors too! I eliminated it from the 24-hour rainfall totals as soon as I did my usual visual inspection, but overlooked it in the short-duration rainfall extremes section. There were no substantial rain influences in the area, and nearby stations reported nothing of note.
 
As a matter of interest, I usually have to weed out several obviously erroneous errors daily. Some AWS (Montagu Island and Mt Hotham AP spring to mind) report gusts almost every day in excess of 100km/h with mean windspeeds <10km/h. Some also report minimum temps well below zero near sea level in summer. The more obvious ones are easy to spot, but I always worry about the proportion of data that contains less obvious errors. Manual observations seem to be pretty good now that most observers are using electronic field books, but there are still some substantial problems with realtime quality control both with AWSs and telemetered rainfall obs.
 
Cheers
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Paul Mossman
Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2001 10:33 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Aussie Record?

I am surprised that this has not been raised before?
 
Check out these records (courtesy of Laurier's webpage):
 
TASMANIA
   
N Coast
CAPE GRIM B.A.P.S.
184.8mm in 1 hr to 12:00 184.8mm/h
185.0mm in 3 hr to 12:00 61.7mm/h
14.6mm in 1 hr to 14:00 14.6mm/h
989.0mm in 6 hr to 21:00 164.8mm/h
If this is true( has it been confirmed anyone?) this would have to be an Aussie Record (as well as a Tassie one - ie 989mm in 6 hrs! The 184 mm in 1 hr aint bad either....)?
 
Paul.
From: "Clyve Herbert" To: Subject: aus-wx: Australasian tropics go to work. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:42:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Dec 2001 01:44:23.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC40D420:01C1919C] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all tropos.
It appears that the Australasian tropics area now showing increased potential for TC development. Although just outside our region, an impressive TC east of Fiji looks nasty with very good upper divergence and lower convergence...seems to be moving southward. Also there is a small area of upper divergence near to Honiara with a small but reasonably good area of surface and mid level convergence.. The now largish cloud 'splotch' north of Darwin is looking better with improved 300 to 250hpa outflow, although the low level convergence is still on the weak side but sea surface temps are close to 30c in this area,the outflow from this system north of the NT is at last providing better upper moisture loading to QLD. At the opposite end of the scale not a bad looking cold air field southwest of Victoria which may bring another burst of coldies to the southeast of Australia and Tasmania over the next 24 hours. Happy new year to all Clyve Herbert.
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:43:56 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this X-Mailer: WorldClient 5.0.4 X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It was actually Wallis Island that took the full hurricane-force winds yesterday, Samoa only had gales and rain. Overnight, the eye passed over Niuafoou Island: Updated: 07:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 26° C Wind ENE at 156.1 km/h Pressure 976 hPa Conditions Heavy Rain Showers Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 94% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 101.4 km/h Pressure 999 hPa Conditions Mostly Cloudy Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga Temperature 25° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 64.4 km/h Pressure 1003 hPa Conditions Light Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga /15.6s 175.6w Temperature 25° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 24° C Wind(10mn) East at 74.0 km/h Pressure 1001 hPa Conditions Rain Visibility 0 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga / 15.9s 173.8w Temperature 26° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 25° C Wind(10mn) East at 53.1 km/h Pressure 1004 hPa Conditions Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Meanwhile, Tropical Cyclone Vamei which hit Singapore a couple of days ago has regenerated in the Bay of Bengal and is headed towards Sri Lanka. Links for both storms are being kept up-to-date in my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.com for those interested in following up. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:10:30 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > There's an eye in this image > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/12sat.html > > This is the latest one from the Fiji Meteorological Service and was > about midnight Fiji time and roughly matches this chart: > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0642.html > > I think it gave Samoa a bit of a caning yesterday. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > No sign of the eye on > satellitehttp://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes. > NIWA NZ institute water and atmos were suggesting this summer was > going to be active for tropical cyclones, > particularly Mar/Apr. I hope so. They are great storms to look at on > the satellite. > Cheers > Steven Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: Weather list > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so.. > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html > > but that might be the end of it soon... > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20030.txt > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Aussie Record? Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:23:39 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hehe Thanks Laurier.
 
Maybe there was big seas that day (and spray was going into the collection bucket).
 
Was like Katherine AWS several weeks back - had a massive fall of about 500mm or so overnight. I emailed the BOM and they apologised for not picking it up.....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Aussie Record?

Sorry to disappoint, but it was an error, Paul. The page is put together automatically from Bureau data, and, being a list of extremes, is very good at picking up errors too! I eliminated it from the 24-hour rainfall totals as soon as I did my usual visual inspection, but overlooked it in the short-duration rainfall extremes section. There were no substantial rain influences in the area, and nearby stations reported nothing of note.
 
As a matter of interest, I usually have to weed out several obviously erroneous errors daily. Some AWS (Montagu Island and Mt Hotham AP spring to mind) report gusts almost every day in excess of 100km/h with mean windspeeds <10km/h. Some also report minimum temps well below zero near sea level in summer. The more obvious ones are easy to spot, but I always worry about the proportion of data that contains less obvious errors. Manual observations seem to be pretty good now that most observers are using electronic field books, but there are still some substantial problems with realtime quality control both with AWSs and telemetered rainfall obs.
 
Cheers
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Paul Mossman
Sent: Monday, 31 December, 2001 10:33 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Aussie Record?

I am surprised that this has not been raised before?
 
Check out these records (courtesy of Laurier's webpage):
 
TASMANIA
   
N Coast
CAPE GRIM B.A.P.S.
184.8mm in 1 hr to 12:00 184.8mm/h
185.0mm in 3 hr to 12:00 61.7mm/h
14.6mm in 1 hr to 14:00 14.6mm/h
989.0mm in 6 hr to 21:00 164.8mm/h
If this is true( has it been confirmed anyone?) this would have to be an Aussie Record (as well as a Tassie one - ie 989mm in 6 hrs! The 184 mm in 1 hr aint bad either....)?
 
Paul.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:32:08 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil - I thought that Vaemei was only a Tropical Storm (JTWC only has it as a Tropical Storm).? Rgds, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:13 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this It was actually Wallis Island that took the full hurricane-force winds yesterday, Samoa only had gales and rain. Overnight, the eye passed over Niuafoou Island: Updated: 07:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 26° C Wind ENE at 156.1 km/h Pressure 976 hPa Conditions Heavy Rain Showers Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 94% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 101.4 km/h Pressure 999 hPa Conditions Mostly Cloudy Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga Temperature 25° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 64.4 km/h Pressure 1003 hPa Conditions Light Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga /15.6s 175.6w Temperature 25° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 24° C Wind(10mn) East at 74.0 km/h Pressure 1001 hPa Conditions Rain Visibility 0 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga / 15.9s 173.8w Temperature 26° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 25° C Wind(10mn) East at 53.1 km/h Pressure 1004 hPa Conditions Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Meanwhile, Tropical Cyclone Vamei which hit Singapore a couple of days ago has regenerated in the Bay of Bengal and is headed towards Sri Lanka. Links for both storms are being kept up-to-date in my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.com for those interested in following up. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:10:30 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > There's an eye in this image > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/12sat.html > > This is the latest one from the Fiji Meteorological Service and was > about midnight Fiji time and roughly matches this chart: > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0642.html > > I think it gave Samoa a bit of a caning yesterday. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > No sign of the eye on > satellitehttp://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes. > NIWA NZ institute water and atmos were suggesting this summer was > going to be active for tropical cyclones, > particularly Mar/Apr. I hope so. They are great storms to look at on > the satellite. > Cheers > Steven Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: Weather list > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so.. > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html > > but that might be the end of it soon... > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20030.txt > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 11:48:14 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think this Low has also been a major hindrance to the Sthern Indian Ocean monsoon - it is now approaching an area of higher shear which may allow the cross-equatorial winds to finally start pumping through to the south and regenerate the Southern Monsoon. I also note that JTWC now has a distrubance off Diego Garcia, which is always a great sign for us Southern Monsooners (as they are normally linked to a MJO pulse). Things are starting to happen...... Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mossman" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Phil - I thought that Vaemei was only a Tropical Storm (JTWC only has it as a Tropical Storm).? Rgds, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:13 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this It was actually Wallis Island that took the full hurricane-force winds yesterday, Samoa only had gales and rain. Overnight, the eye passed over Niuafoou Island: Updated: 07:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 26° C Wind ENE at 156.1 km/h Pressure 976 hPa Conditions Heavy Rain Showers Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga Temperature 26° C Humidity 94% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 101.4 km/h Pressure 999 hPa Conditions Mostly Cloudy Visibility 4 kilometers Updated: 01:00 AM WST on December 30, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga Temperature 25° C Humidity 95% Dewpoint 25° C Wind East at 64.4 km/h Pressure 1003 hPa Conditions Light Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Niuafoou, Tonga /15.6s 175.6w Temperature 25° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 24° C Wind(10mn) East at 74.0 km/h Pressure 1001 hPa Conditions Rain Visibility 0 kilometers Updated: 07:00 PM WST on December 29, 2001 Observed at Keppel, Tonga / 15.9s 173.8w Temperature 26° C Humidity 92% Dewpoint 25° C Wind(10mn) East at 53.1 km/h Pressure 1004 hPa Conditions Rain Showers Visibility 20 kilometers Meanwhile, Tropical Cyclone Vamei which hit Singapore a couple of days ago has regenerated in the Bay of Bengal and is headed towards Sri Lanka. Links for both storms are being kept up-to-date in my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.com for those interested in following up. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk Limited E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Keith Barnett" To: Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:10:30 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > There's an eye in this image > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/12sat.html > > This is the latest one from the Fiji Meteorological Service and was > about midnight Fiji time and roughly matches this chart: > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0642.html > > I think it gave Samoa a bit of a caning yesterday. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 8:44 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > No sign of the eye on > satellitehttp://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes. > NIWA NZ institute water and atmos were suggesting this summer was > going to be active for tropical cyclones, > particularly Mar/Apr. I hope so. They are great storms to look at on > the satellite. > Cheers > Steven Williams > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barnett > To: Weather list > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:26 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Get a load of this > > > Cyclone Waka has deepened dramatically in the last 12 hours or so.. > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html > > but that might be the end of it soon... > > http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20030.txt > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: aus-wx: Blue Mountain Fires Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:53:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sent:MONDAY 31/12/01- 1:55pm It has started again. After some great backburning achieved in the Eastern Lower Blue Mountains, huge fires have flared up south of Blaxland, Warrimoo and now south of Springwood. There are burning under the influence of a gusty WNW'ster. Its 38/1 here in Blaxland and things are looking dicey indeed. We should be okay due to this back burning, but further up the mountains, around Springwood and Falconbridge/Linden, things might be different. The NW front of the Burrogorang/St Helenas fire that was started on New Years eve and that burnt through Warrgamba, Wallacia and Mulgoa is spotting to the north of the main fire, while back burning opertations around Valley Heights and Springwood, have ceased as these condiditons worsen. Some nice CJ's around tho. dann +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney fires on radar Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:31:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sydney radar at present shows the outline of the main smoke plumes very well, + some moderate showers (thunderstorms?), all moving from the WNW. Wind here at Blackheath stepped up to around 20 knots gusting 30 to 35 around 10am and is still going. 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And now this
 
TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

NSW Severe Thunderstorm Advice
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 1450 on Monday the 31st of December 2001

This advice affects people in the following weather districts:

Northern Tablelands
Northern Rivers
Mid-North Coast
Hunter

and is also now extended to the following district:

Central Tablelands

Thunderstorms are forecast within the advice area this afternoon. Some of
these are expected to be severe bringing large hailstones, damaging winds
and very heavy rainfall.

The STATE EMERGENCY SERVICE advises that as storms approach people should:
  * put vehicles under cover
  * move indoors away from windows

During and after the storm people should:
  * beware of fallen trees and power lines
  * keep away from creeks and drains as you may be swept away
  
The RTA recommends motorists switch their lights & wipers on & slow down in
the wet.

If your house is damaged contact the State Emergency Service on 132 500 for
emergency assistance. Do not use the telephone during the storm.

TV CRAWL: Severe Thunderstorm Advice current for the Northern Rivers,
Mid-North Coast,  Northern Tablelands,  Hunter and Central Tablelands
weather forecast districts.

MEDIA PLEASE NOTE: This Advice message is valid until 8pm. The Bureau and
SES would appreciate it being broadcast regularly until this time.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 2:31 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Sydney fires on radar

Sydney radar at present shows the outline of the main smoke plumes very
well, + some moderate showers (thunderstorms?), all moving from the WNW.
Wind here at Blackheath stepped up to around 20 knots gusting 30 to 35
around 10am and is still going.

Laurier

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X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:16:37 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Paul. >Phil - I thought that Vaemei was only a Tropical Storm (JTWC only has it as >a Tropical Storm).? > >Rgds, Paul. Have another look at JTWC's warning - it is called a Tropical Cyclone. >WTIO31 PGTW 302100 >1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 05B (VAMEI) WARNING NR 001 > 01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHIO > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE Anything stronger than a tropical depression is called a Tropical Cyclone when in the Bay of Bengal. You may also note that WAKA is called a Tropical Cyclone in the JTWC warnings although it is of hurricane intensity. As for Vamei, this was remarkable as it struck just north of Singapore as a Typhoon at latitude 1.5 degrees north with the cloud bands extending across the Equator into the southern hemisphere - see the image showing this on my page at http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm below the satpic animation - time for someone to have another look at cyclogenesis theories as TC's are not supposed to be able to develop within about 5 degrees of the Equator. Here is an extract of the relevent JTWC warning: >WTPN31 PGTW 270900 >1. TYPHOON 32W (VAMEI) WARNING NR 002 > 01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE > --- > WARNING POSITION: > 270600Z5 --- NEAR 1.5N6 104.4E9 > MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 07 KTS > POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 025 NM > POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY A COMBINATION OF > SATELLITE, RADAR AND SYNOPTIC DATA > PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION: > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT > RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT > 025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT > 025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT > 025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT > RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT > 060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT > 090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT > OVER WATER > 060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT > REPEAT POSIT: 1.5N6 104.4E9 Regards, Carl. ~~~~~~~~~~ Carl Smith. Gold Coast. Queensland. Australia. Email: carls at qldnet.com.au Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ Current Tropical Cyclone information : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:29:27 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rU b1 32 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all - nice rain outlook for us at last. Would see the end of our "mini-drought"!
 
Paul.
 
From: "The Weather Man" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 10:57:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rU b1 32 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Paul,
How unlucky could they be... It missed the lighting rod!!! That would have to be the most unluckiest radar ever!
Jason
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:45:05 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Carl, Thanks for this. I havnt been getting regular JTWC updates lately for some reason. This one must have been one that was missed. Waka formed within the "cyclone" side of the pacific didnt it? Rather then the "hurricane" side? My guess ... As for cyclogenesis theories I have always wondered about the "cant". My reason (and I am no way a scientist etc) - the earth is a sphere. It tilts during seasonal oscilations (23degress or sumthin?) wouldnt then then "centre" of gravity tilt with it? We know that air masses now can cross the equator (i.e. monsoon - ITCZ etc),and the "centre" or convergence zone of the hadley cell of that air mass follows - so why not the coriolis effect. EG - at spring and autumn the sun is directly overhead of the equator , while in summer the sun is directly overhead the respective tropic. Wouldnt then the coriolis effect and the "no-form" zone shift accordingly? Otherwise wouldnt there be some displacement or imbalance (ie. coriolis effect at equator, when the equator is at that stage literally the tropic where the sun is according to the tilt? (now if anyone can make sense of this then please see a Doctor....) hehe Just some ramblings for thought. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Get a load of this > Hi Paul. > > >Phil - I thought that Vaemei was only a Tropical Storm (JTWC only has it as > >a Tropical Storm).? > > > >Rgds, Paul. > > > Have another look at JTWC's warning - it is called a Tropical Cyclone. > > >WTIO31 PGTW 302100 > >1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 05B (VAMEI) WARNING NR 001 > > 01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONES IN NORTHIO > > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE > > Anything stronger than a tropical depression is called a Tropical Cyclone > when in the Bay of Bengal. You may also note that WAKA is called a Tropical > Cyclone in the JTWC warnings although it is of hurricane intensity. > > As for Vamei, this was remarkable as it struck just north of Singapore as a > Typhoon at latitude 1.5 degrees north with the cloud bands extending across > the Equator into the southern hemisphere - see the image showing this on my > page at http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm below the satpic > animation - time for someone to have another look at cyclogenesis theories > as TC's are not supposed to be able to develop within about 5 degrees of > the Equator. > > Here is an extract of the relevent JTWC warning: > > >WTPN31 PGTW 270900 > >1. TYPHOON 32W (VAMEI) WARNING NR 002 > > 01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHWESTPAC > > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE > > --- > > WARNING POSITION: > > 270600Z5 --- NEAR 1.5N6 104.4E9 > > MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 270 DEGREES AT 07 KTS > > POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 025 NM > > POSITION BASED ON EYE FIXED BY A COMBINATION OF > > SATELLITE, RADAR AND SYNOPTIC DATA > > PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION: > > MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT > > RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT > > 025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT > > 025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT > > 025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT > > RADIUS OF 035 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT > > 060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT > > 090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT > > OVER WATER > > 060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT > > REPEAT POSIT: 1.5N6 104.4E9 > > Regards, > Carl. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~ > Carl Smith. > Gold Coast. > Queensland. > Australia. > > Email: carls at qldnet.com.au > Internet: http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/ > Current Tropical Cyclone information : > http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm > Tropical Cyclone Tracking Maps : http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/TCMaps.htm > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:46:00 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hehe yep. Makes one wonder if those "rods" really have any effect...... other then in really tall skyscrapers.
 
Anyway BOM is counting the cost of it..... no word yet on replacement.
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
How unlucky could they be... It missed the lighting rod!!! That would have to be the most unluckiest radar ever!
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:46:00 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MDMail-Server: MDaemon v2.0 rU b1 32 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: tlang at freeway.apana.org.au Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hehe yep. Makes one wonder if those "rods" really have any effect...... other then in really tall skyscrapers.
 
Anyway BOM is counting the cost of it..... no word yet on replacement.
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
How unlucky could they be... It missed the lighting rod!!! That would have to be the most unluckiest radar ever!
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north. Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 14:55:29 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Latest TC Outlook.
 
Thursday could see the new years first TC.
 
A developing TROPICAL LOW 1004 hPa is situated in the northern Gulf of
Carpentaria.
At 2pm it was near latitude 11.5S, longitude 138.0E, about 150 km
northeast of Nhulunbuy, and almost stationary.  The LOW is expected to move
towards the south or southwest.

The potential for development into a Tropical Cyclone over the next
few days, provided the low remains over water, is estimated to be:
     Tuesday:     low,
     Wednesday:   moderate,
     Thursday:    high.
As for movemenr, dont know. The BOMs TLAPS Cyclone Hi Res product actually shows a more westward movement. Who knows..... awaiting the most recent diagnostic statement from the BOM. Perhaps they are expecting a monsoonal surge associated with this Low, which would drive it to the South / SW.
 
Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Home Mail: ntstorms at bigpond.com
Work Mail: Paul.Mossman at .nt.gov.au
ICQ: 111144666
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
How unlucky could they be... It missed the lighting rod!!! That would have to be the most unluckiest radar ever!
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Hi Jason,
 
The AP radar is not protected by the outer shell like most of the fulltime weather radars. Apparently it took a direct strike..... which is really amazing since they have a whopping big lightning rod only several metres away....
 
Paul.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Paul,
 
Must have been a storm and a half.... Did the strike hit the radar only?? or did it take out other equipment?
Jason
º¿º
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin and north.

Anyone wondering why there are NO Darwin soundings lately - there was a direct lightning strike on the BOM Airport Radar ($2million worth of damage) during Friday's huge storm (AP received 42mm in 10 mins or so...)
 
A consequence - no soundings til radar is replaced or repaired. And just after they had recalibrated it as well and finally got decent radar images for Darwin.....
 
Paul in Darwin.
From: "Paul" To: "Aus Wx" Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 16:24:14 +1100 X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.20.2360) For Windows 98 (4.90.3000) Subject: aus-wx: Thank you Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone Thanks to everyone who has helped me to resolve a post I recently made for someone's ICQ details. I lost a lot of stuff in a recent crash and still trying sort it all out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Rands prands at efter-stormen.com - ICQ UIN: 137833127 "If you eliminate all other possibilities, what remains is the answer no matter how improbable it may appear." +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:42:46 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 18:54 27/12/01 +1300, you wrote: >Hi There, >I saw that waterspout on NZ TV news. Looked like a real beast. I'm not >surprised though. There has been some >very active looking cb on Satellite. Some of those storms have reached the >South Island West Coast with 150mm+ >in places yesterday. >Regards >Steven Williams (NZ) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Simon" >To: >Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:26 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Sydney to Hobart Waterspout > > >> Channel 7 has been showing some great footage of the Waterspout that blew >> the "Nicarette" yacht around. >> I'm glad everyone was alright on board the boat! It would have been such >an >> awesome site to see up close though! (Just would have had to have ensured >a >> change of jocks though) >> >> :) >> >> Simon The media here in NZ called it a tornado and even one TV channel in it's sports news (TV3) called it a "typhoon" !! JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 23:45:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!! PS: there's still a lot of snow lying up the top of the Snowy Mtns!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at stormchasers.au.com Melbourne Storm Chasers http://www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------