http://australiasevereweather.com/ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 01:06:42 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:10 PM 31/12/2002 +0800, you wrote: >May I echo Bussy's wishes for a great new year. As I type, it's already >2003 from NSW south to Tas. There's not much on the list because >everyone is busy celebrating. We get going here in a few hours, but at >my age I have a bad habit of sneaking off to bed early so all the >rockets will go off without me watching them. >Anyway all the best to everyone and may you all be blessed in the New Well, I just got in from watching the fireworks. Bit of a fizzer because of having to rush off early, and they seemed to drag the city fireworks out a bit. Saw some more spectacular ones around the city when leaving our vantage point at Williamstown. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Seven Hills data Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:10:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A happy new year to everyone and here's hoping for a lot more rain in 2003.
 
December's readings
 
 
and the daily rainfall for the year just gone. This was the 7th driest in 53 years of record.
 
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them.
 
From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.)
 
Happy New Year to everyone.
 
Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: I'm home

All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and we'll get straight back on our horses.
It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, environmentally or whatever.
We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as we have in the past and will do in the future.
Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best for the New year.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:31:57 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
so far brisbane has not received any rain yet
as of 11:31 am on 01-01-03
Stephen
 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:08 AM
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Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them.
 
From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.)
 
Happy New Year to everyone.
 
Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: I'm home

All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and we'll get straight back on our horses.
It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, environmentally or whatever.
We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, as we have in the past and will do in the future.
Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the best for the New year.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year Everyone! Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:08:45 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
We would like to say Happy New Year to everyone and hope you everyone have a better year this year.
 
From Nathan and Phillip Thompson.
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: December Averages for Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:06:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Here's the averages for December for my house between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs:
 
Average Maximum: 29.8
Average Minimum: 15.6
Highest Maximum: 39.6 on the 4th
Lowest Minimum:  9.2 on the 7th
Rainfall:        94mm
 
 
I have every day of the years weather statistics recorded from my backyard & put onto my weather website, which I have "updated" & "reorganised".
You can find my weather pages at:
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:52:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:46:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North

Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 13:16:46 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in relation to Ballarat? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:08:12 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > Well, just at this moment, the New Year is looking better than the old > one! I hope NSW and Qld are getting the rain that came through here. It > looked as if we were going to have to buy some water as we were > perilously close to running out, but we just got a 30mm reprieve, which > filled up the tank and overflowed it. Thank goodness, because the town > water is ghastly. The rain also watered our block, which we have > covered in about 500+ trees, a lot grown from seed by me. We have been > watering them, but it takes a lot of time and effort and never replaces > a good soaking rain. I would have hated to lose any of them. > > From our living room we get a wonderful view across a small valley to > Ballarat. In summer the storms sweep across from the west and as soon > as they hit the hills we get some wonderful light shows - better than > fireworks. (although I suspect the farmers who live under the lighning > with their tinder-dry paddocks aren't as impressed.) > > Happy New Year to everyone. > > Robyn in Ballarat, SE Victoria. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: aussie-weather > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 10:50 PM > Subject: aus-wx: I'm home > > > All the best for everyone for the New Year. It's been a tough one all > over Australia, but the Australian spirit will always shine through and > we'll get straight back on our horses. > It's been tough everywhere we've looked this year. Politically, > environmentally or whatever. > We as Australians are a very proud people and can get over anything, > as we have in the past and will do in the future. > Not only to the Aussies on the list but to all, I wish you all the > best for the New year. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
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Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North

Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
 
 
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:43:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Personal accounts of very close ligtning strikes

Some very galvanizing story's so far! I've had some close-ish calls in my life but the most memorable one was when I was about 5 or 6 years old, I can remember some of it still rather vividly. Anyway, I was up in my room (top south window of a two storey house) watching a nice lightning show (as I always have done, back in the days when we used to get storms in Sydney :P), it was around 8 or 9pm at night and I noticed the lightning (mostly forking cg's) were tending to get closer and closer. All of a sudden there was a brilliant flash of white and an absolutely deafening noise on which just threw me into shock for a few seconds. The bedroom lights started flashing on and off, and some of the electronic toys (some spaceship that made noises) switched themselves on and started going crazy. I ran down stairs as fast as I could, my brother and my dad were already halfway up the stairs wondering what just had happened. It took me a while to calm down, I was rather freaked out for a while and I was too afraid to go upstairs during storms for quite a while. The cg had obviously hit my house or the large palm tree near the window.

 

:)

 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:26:10 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands
 
and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300
 
Stephen
 
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:53:02 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

http://www.abc.net.au/news/justin/nat/newsnat-1jan2003-72.htm

 

Quote:

Few signs of life reported on Tikopia after cyclone

The first plane to fly over cyclone battered Tikopia in the Solomon Islands reported massive destruction and few signs of life, New Zealand's TV3 has reported.

The station's cameraman Jeff Mackley flew over the island, struck Saturday by Cyclone Zoe, from Vanuatu.

"It's the worst damage I have ever seen," he said.

There were few signs of life.

Tikopia, which is believed to have a population of around 2,000, has been cut off since just before the storm hit.

An Australian Hercules was due to fly over later today and a Solomons Government patrol vessel was due to sail from the capital Honiara on Wednesday.

The TV3 pictures showed most of the forest stripped bare on the picturesque volcanic island.

The few houses that could be seen were also destroyed.

Mr Mackley, who chartered the single engined aircraft, specialises in filming storms around the world.

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation

 

it has been report on ten news at 5 pm

that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands

 

and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300

 

Stephen

 

 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/

has an image

 

and

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html

 

Does not look good L

 

 

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation

 

it has been report on ten news at 5 pm

that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard over the soloman islands

 

and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign of life at all , and also reported that the  death toll could go higer than 1300

 

Stephen

 

 X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.206] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 07:55:09 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2003 07:55:09.0262 (UTC) FILETIME=[1B0366E0:01C2B16B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Glad to hear about your rain! You needed it.

Here in Darwin we awoke on New Years Day to see what seemed to be the long-awaited Monsoon creeping down from the NW.

But in the afternoon, Berrimah Radar (BOM) showed a rain belt coming up from the South.

This seems to be associated with a cloud belt stretching from the Kimberlys SE to NSW.

We should complain - if this is not the blessed monsoon, we'll settle for it.

Cool grey skies, soft continuous rain, muted rumbles of thunder - YAY! Happy Territorians!

Rob Hall

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100
>
>Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phillip Basil-Jones
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
> Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damian
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
>
>
> Damian
> 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:38:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This commentary on the developing monsoon which is now in the Arafura Sea (Weekly tropical climate note):
 
The near equatorial troughs in both the hemispheres were reorganised during last week. A good northeast surge was evident over the South China Sea into the active convection over the tropical Indian Ocean west of 120E. The cross equatorial flow from the northwest Pacific fed into the southern hemisphere monsoon trough except over Australian longitudes. SPCZ area was active with the formation of tropical cyclone Zoe in the area.

Time-longitude plots of 200 hPa velocity potential, mean sea level pressure and OLR series show increased convection to the west of the Darwin RSMC* longitude range, with obvious eastward propagation. Consistent with this, station pressure series show good phase agreement. BMRC 's coherent OLR mode displays [http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/maproom.html] show the current active MJO pulse which commenced at about 80E during last week propagated eastwards to 120E and expected to progress further to 160E during the next couple of weeks. Current active convection over Sumatra is expected to reach northern Australia during the end of this week, which is consistent with the numerical model forecasts. Climatologically the active pulse of the monsoon prevails for one to two weeks over northern Australia. With the increased convection and active monsoon trough, the chances of tropical cyclone formation in the Australian region increases.

I notice isolated parts of NW Oz had 25mm in an hour this afternoon.

See also

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/latest.pl?IDCODE=IDX0016

The South Pacific's still looking alive too:

http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html

and

http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/10140.txt

 

 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain also in Darwin

Glad to hear about your rain! You needed it.

Here in Darwin we awoke on New Years Day to see what seemed to be the long-awaited Monsoon creeping down from the NW.

But in the afternoon, Berrimah Radar (BOM) showed a rain belt coming up from the South.

This seems to be associated with a cloud belt stretching from the Kimberlys SE to NSW.

We should complain - if this is not the blessed monsoon, we'll settle for it.

Cool grey skies, soft continuous rain, muted rumbles of thunder - YAY! Happy Territorians!

Rob Hall

>From: "Keith Barnett"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:22:56 +1100
>
>Clearing slowly over the ranges west of Bowral. Sky 7/8ths here (Seven Hills) and 13mm since 8am. One year in 3 it rains here on New Year's day, with 1 year in 10 getting this much, just for trivia.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phillip Basil-Jones
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Yep, only drizzling here in Concord (just south of Ryde)
> Looks like the band may be clearing, on radar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Damian
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 2:52 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Rain in Sydney's North
>
>
> Reasonably steady rain falling at the moment here in Sydney's Northern Suburbs between Chatswood West & North Ryde.
>
>
> Damian
> 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From Geoff Mackley's site: Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and 350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation, almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100 people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not large it will be a miracle..... Phil's comments: At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband. Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was erroneously reported by some media reports. The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from scratch. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/ > has an image > > and > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html > > Does not look good :-( > > > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen > galowski > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard > over > the soloman islands > > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer > than 1300 > > Stephen > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:11:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and photos I took over the Chrismas Period. 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, Rainbow http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos showing development of a storm on Christmas http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 23:33:24 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx , Wx-Chase Subject: aus-wx: Latest Chase Reports Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I've uploaded some new chase reports on my site at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/index.html There's six all up...the best three are the following: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/04_11_02ac.html Supercell hailstorm moved into the Brisbane Valley, gave some awesome lightning and nice hail...followed by some great mammatus! http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/11_11_02ac.html Once again, some awesome lightning...especially at night (some of it shown on Channel 7) - some awesome CC/CG combinations! http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/13_11_02ac.html Yet more awesome evening lightning, countless number of CGs from some slow moving storms - a night to remember! The other three can be see at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/index.html Oct 23 Brisbane Duststorm, Nov 14 Granite Belt pulse-storms, and Nov 15 storms (line through Brisbane). -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.130] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 13:42:48 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Jan 2003 13:42:49.0227 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC8575B0:01C2B19B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
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Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:00:29 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From the moment I read Phil's email I thought some fool would pipe their little nose up about it. It's funny how many people get offended by the mere thought of religion! Would the same reaction have been given had some other type of support been proposed? I think not. AC ROBERT HALL wrote: > > Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If > prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be > tonight. And is it? > > Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > Rob Hall > > >From: "Phil Smith" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > >Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800 > > > >From Geoff Mackley's site: > > > >Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe > > > > I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the > island > >is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather > >the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and > >350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe > >when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been > >blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of > vegetation, > >almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while > >others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages > >and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying > >them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong > >tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down > to > >the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100 > >people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, > others > >just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no > airstrip...I > >will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is > not > >large it will be a miracle..... > > > >Phil's comments: > >At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so > it's > >impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is > >taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband. > >Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the > ground > >on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as > was > >erroneously reported by some media reports. > > > >The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all > >their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes > from > >scratch. > > > >Phil > ><>< > > > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: "James Holbeach" > >To: > >Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100 > >Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > > > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/ > > > has an image > > > > > > and > > > > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html > > > > > > Does not look good :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > James Holbeach > > > -------------------------------- > > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > > -------------------------------- > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of > stephen > > > galowski > > > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation > > > > > > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm > > > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman > onboard > > > over > > > the soloman islands > > > > > > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no > sign > > > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go > higer > > > than 1300 > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:50:46 +1100 (EST) From: Robert Goler Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation - no religious debate please! X-X-Sender: robert at tornado.maths.monash.edu.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Anthony Cornelius wrote: > From the moment I read Phil's email I thought some fool would pipe their > little nose up about it. It's funny how many people get offended by the > mere thought of religion! Would the same reaction have been given had > some other type of support been proposed? I think not. Looks like another religion slanging match about to commence on the list. Would it be asking too much for every man and his dog NOT to voice their opinion about religion on this list??? I don't fancy the idea of having my mailbox filled with emails about nothing, which could result in me accidently missing an email of relevance, say something to do with weather which is what this list is about. Cheers -- Robert A. Goler School of Mathematical Sciences PO Box 28M Monash University Clayton, Vic 3800 Australia ph. +61 3 9905 4424 email: Robert.Goler at maths.monash.edu.au http://www.maths.monash.edu.au/~robert/ -- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: Showers Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 01:48:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
well same time again last night jsut a vero not must at infact better last night with the showers that came in.
Regards
Michael Wright
S.E.S Member
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:10:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Good Morning all
 
Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.
 
(sorry for the off topic)
 
Regards
Michael Wright
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe update on devistations Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:37:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
   instead of just the 2 atols it has hit
it is now confirmed that 3 atols have been hit
now the fate of upto 4000 people are unknowen
 
Stephen
 
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
 
it looks really bad
 
Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ?
 
 
Stephen
 
 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:47:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end of Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre blocks seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists near Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked en-mass... Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in > relation to Ballarat? > > Phil > <>< > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:53:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I made a New Year Resolution back in 1981 which I have never broken - I resolved never to make another New Year Resolution... Besides, I could never be more nicer to people, I'm too old and cranky, and I just look for trouble because it is a lot less boring than being good ;-þ
 
Robyn
Pagan (but only if it upsets someone.)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year

Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:56:59 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
lol robyn, you sound just like me you great big s**t stirrer.
 
richard
 

 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 3:29:50 PM
Subject: aus-wx: New Year Resolutions
 
I made a New Year Resolution back in 1981 which I have never broken - I resolved never to make another New Year Resolution... Besides, I could never be more nicer to people, I'm too old and cranky, and I just look for trouble because it is a lot less boring than being good ;-þ
 
Robyn
Pagan (but only if it upsets someone.)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 7:13 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Happy New Year

Whats your revolution This year for 2003, mine is to say out of (TROUBLE) And to be more nicer to people. Anyway happy new year for 2003
 
Regards
Michael Wright 
 
____________________________________________________
  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP45.gif: 00000001,3c4db48d,00000000,00000000 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:12:33 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
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Holiday Greetings & Best New Year Wishes To All:
Heres the December, 2002 weather for Mena, Arkansas:
Avg. High:51.2F(10.6C)
Avg. Low:34.7F(1.5C)
       High:68F(20.0C) Dec 17
       Low:18F(-7.7C) Dec 25
Rain For Month:7.83IN(198.8mm)
                      (+3.53IN/+89.6mm)
Rain For Year (Final 2002):64.58IN(1,640.3mm)
                                      (+8.08IN/+205.2mm)
 
A few 2002 numbers:
High for Year:96F(35.5C) Aug 2, 3, 4, 6, 23
Low for Year: 9F(-12.7C) Mar 3
Wettest Day:4.00IN(101.6mm) Apr 7
Wettest Week:5.20IN(132.0mm) Mar 17-23
Snow for Year:5IN(127.0mm)
 
Enjoy your year (whats left of it!!!)
With Best Regards
Yours David Powell
 
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:57:18 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:10:17 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
here is the correct site for the globeflast picture
 
Stephen
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..?

It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:55:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
it's better it has been over the past couple of year, may just may i say we could be in a good chance for a cat 5 cyclone this year.
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Monsoon..or is it too much to hope for..?

It's a while I think since the tropics looked this promising:
 
 
 
What chance I wonder of one of those mobile monsoon depressions, that love to trek westward across the NT and turn into west coast cyclones,  coming south this year and breaking the drought...?
 
Keith Barnett
Weather fanatic and classical musician
Website: http://www.wthrman.com
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 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: aus-wx: The deadlyman Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:00:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The SOI show it's well into the 0 mark, could this been the end to the worst drought that we are having.
 
Regards
Michael Wright
(Nature Cant Storp Anything In It's Path)
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:01:49 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

It is actually far more prevalent than just that e-mail address.

 

There is a plethora of virus attachments coming through hotmail at the moment.

 

Any attachment that claims to be a free Screensaver or any other suspicious executable (*.pif, *.exe *.bat etc . . .) DO NOT OPEN- delete the e-mail immediately, even if it comes from a known source. Basically, if you did not ask for it, do not use it! J

 

A little bit of common sense is the best virus prevention

 

Cheers

 

James

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

 

Good Morning all

 

Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.

 

(sorry for the off topic)

 

Regards

Michael Wright

 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:08:14 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm a non believer mate it's in your sprits mate,Trust me.  One Thing i hate is people knocking at your door to be prayed on and i really don't think this is the please to put in a thread about relishes people keep it clean i don't want to here it kkeep it to your self.
 
Regard
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
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michael
 
1)there are three people below your post, who are you talking to, or is it all three?.
 
2) what are you trying to say?
 
richard.
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 7:49:41 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
I'm a non believer mate it's in your sprits mate,Trust me.  One Thing i hate is people knocking at your door to be prayed on and i really don't think this is the please to put in a thread about relishes people keep it clean i don't want to here it kkeep it to your self.
 
Regard
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

good on ya robert, you've made your views absolutley radiant, having been bought up as a christian in my early years and turned to science over the next 20, i express my views in the appropriate forums, whilst i agree with your views, your public slap in the face and attack on his beliefs, to phil on his concerned expression toward these people is dispicable and if you've got nothing better to say  other than attack someones beliefs then do your self and everyone else a favour  and don't post into this forum.
 
i'm with you phil, my heart and thoughts go out to these people who have been  basically cleaved off the map.......paradise lost.
 
richard 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:29:16 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 

Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must be tonight. And is it?

Dear Lord, help us stick to science!

Rob Hall 

>From: "Phil Smith"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:09:27 +0800
>
>From Geoff Mackley's site:
>
>Fate of 1,300 Unknown After Cyclone Zoe
>
> I flew over Tikopia Island at 0900 on Jan 01 in a Cessna and the island
>is a scene of total devastation..in my experience with severe weather
>the maximum winds on the island would have been between 300 and
>350kph...Tikopia Island would have been in the eyewall of Cyclone Zoe
>when it was at its peak strength, every tree on the island has been
>blown over or shredded, the island is completely denuded of vegetation,
>almost every building has been damaged, a few remain intact, while
>others have been shredded, and the sea has come through some villages
>and run into the lake which is the islands only water source, burying
>them, this sort of destruction is normally seen only after a strong
>tornado or volcanic eruption, a number of people, maybe 20 came down to
>the beach to watch us fly over ,, my pilot said he counted about 100
>people in total, some signalled us with sheets of white plastic, others
>just sat there, we were unable to land as the island has no airstrip...I
>will not speculate on the likely casualties or fatalities, if it is not
>large it will be a miracle.....
>
>Phil's comments:
>At the moment Geoff is absolutely inundated by media enquiries so it's
>impossible to phone him. Also, his web site is so popular that it is
>taking many, many minutes to load even using Broadband.
>Note that the pilot of Geoff's Cessna counted 100 people on the ground
>on Tikopia, so it is not absolute destruction of the population as was
>erroneously reported by some media reports.
>
>The survivors need prayer support as they face up to grieving for all
>their lost relatives and the massive job of rebuilding their homes from
>scratch.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "James Holbeach"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:54:23 +1100
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
>
> > http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/01/01/solomons.cyclone.reut/
> > has an image
> >
> > and
> > http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5781215%255E2,00.html
> >
> > Does not look good :-(
> >
> >
> >
> > James Holbeach
> > --------------------------------
> > Trapdoor Ski Club
> > Mt. Hotham, Australia
> > ph. 0417 553 757
> > http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> > --------------------------------
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen
> > galowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 January 2003 6:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: tc zoe deversation
> >
> > it has been report on ten news at 5 pm
> > that there has been a raaf hercurles plane with a cameraman onboard
> > over
> > the soloman islands
> >
> > and the first pictures are back , total destruction, and so far no sign
> > of life at all , and also reported that the death toll could go higer
> > than 1300
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> >
>
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The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:28:42 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
question
from a monitoring point of view
 
does any one on this list have a idea on how to measure this , or what type of instruments are needed
 
Stephen Galowski
monitor sensors ( software engineer)
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind shear

The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: DEC. 2002: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:36:48 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
At least someone is getting good rainfall.
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 5:44 PM
Subject: aus-wx: DEC. 2002:

Holiday Greetings & Best New Year Wishes To All:
Heres the December, 2002 weather for Mena, Arkansas:
Avg. High:51.2F(10.6C)
Avg. Low:34.7F(1.5C)
       High:68F(20.0C) Dec 17
       Low:18F(-7.7C) Dec 25
Rain For Month:7.83IN(198.8mm)
                      (+3.53IN/+89.6mm)
Rain For Year (Final 2002):64.58IN(1,640.3mm)
                                      (+8.08IN/+205.2mm)
 
A few 2002 numbers:
High for Year:96F(35.5C) Aug 2, 3, 4, 6, 23
Low for Year: 9F(-12.7C) Mar 3
Wettest Day:4.00IN(101.6mm) Apr 7
Wettest Week:5.20IN(132.0mm) Mar 17-23
Snow for Year:5IN(127.0mm)
 
Enjoy your year (whats left of it!!!)
With Best Regards
Yours David Powell
 
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:43:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Steven go to http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/tropic.html it tell you how to read wind shear hope this help you out
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind shear

question
from a monitoring point of view
 
does any one on this list have a idea on how to measure this , or what type of instruments are needed
 
Stephen Galowski
monitor sensors ( software engineer)
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind shear

The wind shear is looking promising from the past 12 hours,specially in the corral sea gose from wind shear in knots  0 to about 10 knots. The wind shear is about 10 knots over Townsville this is why it is so still tonight Ex Tropical cyclone zoe lays in 50 knots wind shear and were she lays the shear is decreasing.
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:54:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Here I am stuck in Flat C on the 17th floor of one of fourteen 28-storey blocks of pigeon-holed people all at one street address, and you can't watch a storm approaching because of the mountains of towers all around. Ahhh how great it would be to be back in Buninyong, or Magpie, or Sebastopol. Or to nick down to Derrinallum on the motorbike to sit on Mount Elephant and watch those storms chase each other across the rolling Western plains. Geeeez watch it Phil - might start getting poetic here! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:47:28 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end > of > Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre > blocks > seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have > grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a > waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists > near > Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked > en-mass... > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > > > > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you > in > > relation to Ballarat? > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 21:31:00 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Stephen, I could comment, as I did earlier, but some may not like me to do so. I have no desire to rile anyone, but when faced with such devastation, my earlier comment was the best I could come up with. Suffice it to say that, as there is nothing particularly practically useful I can do for all those people, I shall stick to my beliefs without necessarily sharing them, and act accordingly. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "stephen galowski" To: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:49 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2003/01/item20030102010112_1.htm > > it looks really bad > > Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ? > > > Stephen > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:14:03 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robert. >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must >be tonight. And is it? > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > >Rob Hall Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back pay owed to them before setting sail. Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:31:59 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad inditement upon your own personal agendas. I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about than some religion bashing/espousing. Grow up, children. . . . James p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Hi Robert. >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must >be tonight. And is it? > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > >Rob Hall Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back pay owed to them before setting sail. Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? 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It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image based on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work without php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. Rhett -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Lets get back to the real topic.. the tragedy unfolding over there.

I will say no more on this topic.



*Dale*




on 03/01/2003 01:31, James Holbeach at james at trapdoor.com.au wrote:

Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
inditement upon your own personal agendas.

I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
than some religion bashing/espousing.

Grow up, children. . . .

James

p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .

James Holbeach
--------------------------------
Trapdoor Ski Club
Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Hi Robert.

>Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
>If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
>be tonight. And is it?
>
>Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
>
>Rob Hall
<snip>

Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.

The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
pay owed to them before setting sail.

Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).

Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?

Regards,
Carl.
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 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 09:52:08 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My dear outspoken James... This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs! Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect. Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to Phil. Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people) James Holbeach wrote: > > Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring > exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad > inditement upon your own personal agendas. > > I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about > than some religion bashing/espousing. > > Grow up, children. . . . > > James > > p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Hi Robert. > > >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? > >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must > >be tonight. And is it? > > > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > > >Rob Hall > > > Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. > There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them > of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. > > The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an > hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently > polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills > for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back > pay owed to them before setting sail. > > Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days > yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's > hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get > the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). > > Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run > by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? > > Regards, > Carl. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:25:26 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The photos of the storm development are my favourites. http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm How long was that sequence shot over? James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi Michael, The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can copy it if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image based on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work without php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. Rhett -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Thompson Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas in your area. The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely available script or is it a front page type extension ? Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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Anthony what can I say... great photos as aways in your recent reports! (im back after 3 weeks holidays) Matt Smith Michael Thompson wrote: > I encountered a nice little severe storm on the 27th on the southern > tablelands. > > http://ozthunder.com/chase/chase32.htm > > The storm is a great example of how a wildcard factor can turn a marginal > day into a good one. In this case a weak SE change working up the south > coast, this provided a focus for storm intensification. > > Some great photos even if I say so myself. > > Michael > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 11:33:33 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin Tornado Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very nice Paul.... I bet the heart was pumping big time! well done.

Matt Smith

Paul Mossman wrote:

Hi all, Darwin had a tornado here this morning. My footage featured on the Local News (Channel 9). Here is the report:  http://www.crosstravel.com.au/Dec28.htm Anyone that may have saved Darwin Local for 23UTC 27 dec to 01 UTC 28 Dec I would love a copy please. :) Paul Mossman
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 now 890 millibars as per http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html latest analysis http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/20031.txt  Keith Barnett
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 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:05:56 +1100 Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi James, The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly stationary for all that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran out tape). The tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I was standing on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it looks awesome as it pops-up. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series > of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > message. > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A few more 2002 numbers: Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:13:41 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
G'January to All:
For 2002* in Mena, Arkansas:
AVG. HIGH: 69.3F(20.7C)
AVG. LOW: 48.7F(9.2C)
Mena's longest dry spell was 19 days--from Nov. 6-24.
*=Readings are for 353 days. (I was on vacation from June 25-July 6).
 
(If you're interested) for a more in-depth review of Mena's weather, I'll post it on my "Any Arkansas Weather Questions" thread in General Weather on Weatherzone.
Enjoy & Thanks
Best Wishes to All
David Powell
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:43:58 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Can u put the movie up? I'd love to see it! James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett Blanch Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 12:06 PM To: aussie-weather at world . std . com Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi James, The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly stationary for all that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran out tape). The tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I was standing on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it looks awesome as it pops-up. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series > of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > message. > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:17:39 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You don't have to be like that, thats is my point of view alright why don't you, shut your f***ing mouth mate theses thing's happen and i live in a tropical cyclones area and have for 18 years you have to start over again in life you may lose some one in your life but you have to go on. Your the one who need to grow up not the people on the list if you don't like people what say just piss of and may be someone mite start liking you. DSorry for the swearing people make me so bloody cross and i said to mark in my e-mail if you going to stab me in the back look out i will fuck this site left rite and centre. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:31 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring > exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad > inditement upon your own personal agendas. > > I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about > than some religion bashing/espousing. > > Grow up, children. . . . > > James > > p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . . > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Hi Robert. > > >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this? > >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must > >be tonight. And is it? > > > >Dear Lord, help us stick to science! > > > >Rob Hall > > > Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia. > There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them > of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them. > > The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an > hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently > polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills > for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back > pay owed to them before setting sail. > > Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days > yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's > hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get > the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft). > > Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run > by apparently incompetent beaurocrats? > > Regards, > Carl. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:40:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Thanks dale, at lease someone is on my side like mark said to me just keep your comments to your self. i'm happy to give storm re-ports and feedback on tropical cyclones but i keep my comments to my self it stops the fighting on the e-mailing list and the weatherzone forum.
 
Like To Thank dale for is kind words
 
Michael Wright
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

I concur James, and vented my anger at some of these childish outbursts in the #weather chat last night.
Lets get back to the real topic.. the tragedy unfolding over there.

I will say no more on this topic.



*Dale*




on 03/01/2003 01:31, James Holbeach at james at trapdoor.com.au wrote:

Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
inditement upon your own personal agendas.

I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
than some religion bashing/espousing.

Grow up, children. . . .

James

p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .

James Holbeach
--------------------------------
Trapdoor Ski Club
Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Hi Robert.

>Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
>If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
>be tonight. And is it?
>
>Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
>
>Rob Hall
<snip>

Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.

The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
pay owed to them before setting sail.

Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).

Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?

Regards,
Carl.
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 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:06:14 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 13:24:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:49:15 +1100 Subject: Re: RE: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'll have a look at how big it is when I get home - I think it might be 2MB. Will see what I can do. Rhett > James Holbeach wrote: > > Can u put the movie up? I'd love to see it! > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett > Blanch > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 12:06 PM > To: aussie-weather at world . std . com > Subject: Re: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi James, > The photos are over about an hour and a half. It was amazingly > stationary for all > that time. I also got it on video for about 50 minutes (until I ran > out > tape). The > tape is a bit jumpy in places due to the wind coming over the ridge I > was standing > on moving the camera, but once compressed down to about 2 minutes it > looks > awesome as it pops-up. > > Rhett > > > > > James Holbeach wrote: > > > > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > > > James Holbeach > > -------------------------------- > > Trapdoor Ski Club > > Mt. Hotham, Australia > > ph. 0417 553 757 > > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > > -------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & > > AJ > > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > > Tamworth > > and Hunter > > > > Hi Michael, > > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can > > copy > > it > > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger > image > > based > > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) > > to > > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > > without > > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > > > Rhett > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > > Thompson > > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from > > Tamworth > > and Hunter > > > > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active > > Christmas > > in > > your area. > > > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a > > freely > > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rhett & AJ" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > > and > > Hunter > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some > > reports > > and > > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > > lightning > > to > > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking > > Line, > > > Rainbow > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: > Series > > of > > photos > > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: > > Damage > > photos > > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > message. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > your > > message. > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > Rhett Blanch > ---------------------------------------------------- > 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au > Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- Rhett Blanch ---------------------------------------------------- 24/7: rhettaj at optusnet.com.au Work: rhett_blanch at pinpnt.com.au ---------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:25:22 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Hey hey hey, settle down folks and INCLUDED YOU Michael Wright. *Ahem* So why are you being so naughty lately Michael? I am not very impressed and very surprised. And you are acting like a naughty little boy. I guess owner will have to deal with it to fix that troublemaker of aussie weather email list. Now, I (even we) want you to improve your behaviour and send a big nice and gentle, good apologise to us. So think about it, calm down, get rid of your swearing addiction problem and behave yourself. Then thats better. Just please do as me told you to, it easy to settle down and just relax and forget about it.
 
From Nathan. Not very happy person like an aunty being so cross at a kid.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:57:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
If you wish to argue the point ans swear at each other, please do it privately off the list.
 
Jane ONeill
 X-Originating-IP: [211.28.96.69] From: "Karl Lijnders" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 15:24:05 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 04:24:05.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3E4E270:01C2B2DF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Amen to that! Karl >From: "Jane ONeill" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse >Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:57:42 +1100 > >Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastationIf you wish to argue the point ans swear at >each other, please do it privately off the list. > >Jane ONeill _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 04:52:40 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me  
 
snip 
 From: "Michael Wright" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:03:45 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
go rite ahead mate your not going to have a site for much longer you want to stabb me in the back then i want my money back from the aswa
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me  
 
snip 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:08:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the areas present weather? I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East Qld area. If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld areas I would appreciate it! Damian I have redesigned 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.22] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:21:23 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Jan 2003 05:21:23.0356 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4C55DC0:01C2B2E7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yeah just think what you can do with all that money, another gram for your mull up bowl you psycho, or maybe a coupla chill out pills or even better a deckshonary for spelink propper. >From: "Michael Wright" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation >Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:03:45 +1000 > >Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastationgo rite ahead mate your not going to have a >site for much longer you want to stabb me in the back then i want my money >back from the aswa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laurier Williams > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:52 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > > Can someone please post the list owner's address. Thanks > > Laurier > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael Wright > Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 03:25 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > > Excuse me > > snip _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:30:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com great for another topic damian 1. http://www.gympieweather.com 2. brisbane storm chasers have one apart from that damian i'm not aware of any others Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) From: Rhett Blanch To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Cc: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:45:15 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1. This list is not related to aswa - what has aswa got to do with it? 2. If something happens to the aswa site then I think this list consitutes some good evidence on who is responsible - I have no problem contacting the police. 3. Can someone remove this person from the list please. Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:48:30 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Many of the Sno-cams operate over Summer http://www.ski.com.au Also Melbourne: http://www.omni-cam.com/ Sydney: http://www.viewsydney.com/index3.htm Sydney Harbor (a good one): http://www.holmanwebb.com.au/webcam.htm A whole bunch of costal cams: http://www.coastalwatch.com/ A simple google search showed these up James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 4:31 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams great for another topic damian 1. http://www.gympieweather.com 2. brisbane storm chasers have one apart from that damian i'm not aware of any others Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:08 PM Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 05:50:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jane has a goodly selection on MSC at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/forecasting.htm. I have some at http://australianweathernews.com -- follow the links to current weather > WeatherCams. There used to be a neat masterlist of web cams at http://salsa.iinet.net.au/~kevinr1/Livecams.html, but this is no longer functioning. Anyone know of an alternative? Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Damian > Sent: Friday, 03 January, 2003 05:08 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is > brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe > South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:03:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some great photos there Rhett. Good work! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 22:11:15 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > > Hi all, > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports > and > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning to > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > Rainbow > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of > photos > showing development of a storm on Christmas > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage > photos > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > Rhett > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:06:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Does anyone know where I can find a list of weather / web-cams showing the > areas present weather? > I know of the McCleans Ridges webcam in Northern NSW which is brilliant & I > view it all the time as the webcam looks over to my family's area. > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! I suggest to do searches on www.google.com , with search words " webcam Australia" "NSW webcam", skycam, etc. my favourite of all types of webcams are those which actually do live streaming (better with fast connection, dsl or cable) and are robotic, remote control . Made by Canon. (most in Japan, quite a few also in Europe and U.S.) . There is one in Sydney ! http://www.viewsydney.com/index3.htm you can tilt, pan, zoom in and out. see link for more > http://www.x-zone.canon.co.jp/WebView-E/all/list.htm not all existing webview cams are listed , sometimes you may find one which is not on the list. Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: world webcams web cams live outdoor cameras Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:12:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This site contains aussie web cams  -  some are from the old site I think
Judy

 http://www.webcams-of-the-world.com/cams1.html Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\world webcams web cams live outdoor cameras.url" Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:08:11 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
for someone who private mailed me telling me the aus-wx list is not the place for this  sort of slanging you have just done an unbelievable job of contradicting yourself.
 
even as a hick town redneck i would never resort to the sort of offensive, disgusting trash and threats you wrote below.
 
you have proven to everyone here you are a truly awful person.
 
for the benefit of all the decent people on this list, will someone please remove this person from the list.
 
richard

 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 2:00:20 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow up your self you fuck face
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale Small
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

Excuse me Michael

Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions and you as a person.

Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of this mailing list.

Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions.
The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels.


Regards
Dale


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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP50.gif: 00000001,16347711,00000000,00000000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:10:40 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
no apologies required here mate,
as always, well said AC.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
My dear outspoken James...

This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and
why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an
international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we
should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people
who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any
issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs!

Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about
another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect.
Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think
it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is
stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to
Phil.

Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do
ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better
than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people)

James Holbeach wrote:
>
> Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
> exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
> inditement upon your own personal agendas.
>
> I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
> than some religion bashing/espousing.
>
> Grow up, children. . . .
>
> James
>
> p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .
>
> James Holbeach
> --------------------------------
> Trapdoor Ski Club
> Mt. Hotham, Australia
> ph. 0417 553 757
> http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> --------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>
> Hi Robert.
>
> >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
> >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
> >be tonight. And is it?
> >
> >Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
> >
> >Rob Hall
> <snip>
>
> Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
> There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
> of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.
>
> The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
> hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
> polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
> for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
> pay owed to them before setting sail.
>
> Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
> yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
> hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
> the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).
>
> Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
> by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP51.gif: 00000001,1e8818dc,00000000,00000000 From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 17:47:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Damian, all James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South East > Qld area. > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > areas I would appreciate it! > > Damian > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ashton H Anderson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:55:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I'm a little surprised by all this and I do hope MW comes to his senses...threats are LOW.
Onya Richard...I support AC as well.
 
Ashton
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation

no apologies required here mate,
as always, well said AC.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 10:31:11 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
 
My dear outspoken James...

This is not the first time Phil has had comments "against him" - and
why? Because of his little signature at the end that says he is from an
international Christian school! And then he makes a comment about "we
should send our prayers" and then he gets slammed for it! The people
who should grow up are those who are so dam closed minded about any
issue that they resort to attack other people's religious beliefs!

Yes I am a Christian - but never ONCE have I ever said a bad word about
another religion or another person's beliefs in a similar respect.
Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe, but I think
it's the ABSOLUTE HEIGHT OF DISRESPECT to say what they believe in is
stupid, or anything to that respect which is what Robert Hall said to
Phil.

Now, let the Christians pray, the Wiccans do spells, the natives do
ritualistic sacrifices and the aetheists hope...but it's sure better
than doing nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AC (Apologies to aus-wx list people)

James Holbeach wrote:
>
> Just shut the f*** up all of u- this is a tragedy, not a point scoring
> exercise . . . this kind of one upmanship is disgraceful and a sad
> inditement upon your own personal agendas.
>
> I agree 100% with Robert Goler . . . there is more here to worry about
> than some religion bashing/espousing.
>
> Grow up, children. . . .
>
> James
>
> p.s. I'm almost sad to say I got sucked into this . . .
>
> James Holbeach
> --------------------------------
> Trapdoor Ski Club
> Mt. Hotham, Australia
> ph. 0417 553 757
> http://www.trapdoor.com.au
> --------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith
> Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 1:14 AM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
>
> Hi Robert.
>
> >Prayer support Phil? Oh please. Would prayers have prevented this?
> >If prayers had any effect imagine what a happy place Jerusalem must
> >be tonight. And is it?
> >
> >Dear Lord, help us stick to science!
> >
> >Rob Hall
> <snip>
>
> Right now, science has bugger all to offer the people of Tikopia.
> There was not even a working radio on the remote island to warn them
> of the appoaching disaster as Zoe closed in on them.
>
> The first relief boat only got around to leaving Honiara about an
> hour ago (i.e. approx 10pm AEST Thursday) because apparently
> polititians were busy arguing about who was going to pay the bills
> for the rescue effort and the boat crews were demanding 6 months back
> pay owed to them before setting sail.
>
> Prayers are about the only help they are going to get for some days
> yet, as the Australian Govt. is also apparently sitting on it's
> hands, aside from some token gestures ($50,000 in relief funds to get
> the boat on it's way and 2 fly-bys of Hercules aircraft).
>
> Can your beloved science solve the problem of having everything run
> by apparently incompetent beaurocrats?
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
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ben, try putting a filter over the lens to cut the light down to say 30-50%, even if you go on the low side the cameras auto exposure should handle this as they're designed to work in low light conditions.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 6:28:43 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams
 
G'day Damian, all

James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web

I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this
storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the
table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have
high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite
expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job
well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon
is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up!

If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you


> I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South
East
> Qld area.
> If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld
> areas I would appreciate it!
>
> Damian
>
> I have redesigned 'My Website':
> http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html

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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP53.gif: 00000001,0462013e,00000000,00000000 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Is the drought over? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 19:41:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well, we had a weather announcer tell us that the outlook for 2003 was for higher than average rainfall and lower than average temperatures... This is my kind of weather, but are they telling the truth, or is it just going to leave the drizzle-lovers all depressed and unhappy when nasty sunshine prevails?
 
Also, it is fairly easy to not receive emails if you don't want to. Just highlight the email, then go to "Messages" in your tool bar, then scroll down to "Block Sender" (make sure you have highlighted the correct email...) and click it. You will never be troubled again.
 
Robyn
 X-Sender: jacob at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:52:12 +0800 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jacob Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Michael Wright has just been removed from this mailing list. Jacob (Co-list owner) At 06:08 PM 3/01/2003 +1030, you wrote: > > for someone who private mailed me telling me the aus-wx list is not the place > for this sort of slanging you have just done an unbelievable job of > contradicting yourself. > > even as a hick town redneck i would never resort to the sort of offensive, > disgusting trash and threats you wrote below. > > you have proven to everyone here you are a truly awful person. > > for the benefit of all the decent people on this list, will someone please > remove this person from the list. > > richard > > > -------Original Message------- > > From: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Friday, 3 January 2003 2:00:20 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation > > Excuse me I'm not the fucking one who put the thread in so don't go fucking > stabbing me in the back mate and i'm warming all of you now if you stab me in > the back you have a fucking site to put your storm re0ports on. fucking grow > up your self you fuck face >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dale Small >> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:06 PM >> Subject: Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation >> >> Excuse me Michael >> >> Please do not use me as a kind example, regarding your previous previous >> post to this mailing list, im completely offended by the language, actions >> and you as a person. >> >> Im sorry if youre upset about that but this was completely uncalled for, and >> way off topic, not to mention way out of the guidelings and regulations of >> this mailing list. >> >> Hang your head in shame, be tolerant to all religions. >> The matter is being dealt with via appropriate channels. >> >> >> >> Regards >> Dale >> >> Stormchaser >> Rail & Aviation Fan >> >> Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association >> http://severeweather.asn.au/ >> >> Software Engineer, Senior Laser Operator - Laser Technician >> http://www.egr.com.au/ >> >> WeatherZone Forum Moderator >> http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi >> >> Cellphone: +61 409 501 906 (24 hours) >> >> >> ____________________________________________________ >> 47fe300.gif >> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - >> Click Here >> > Attachment Converted: 47fe300.gif: 00000001,2e38435a,00000000,00000000 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:15:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it down. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > G'day Damian, all > > James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > > I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on the > table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't have > high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the horizon > is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > > If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from you > > > > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South > East > > Qld area. > > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East Qld > > areas I would appreciate it! > > > > Damian > > > > I have redesigned 'My Website': > > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:53:59 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and it had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro lighting :) At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it >down. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ben Quinn" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > >> G'day Damian, all >> >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site >> >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web >> >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on >the >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't >have >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the >horizon >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! >> >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from >you >> >> >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South >> East >> > Qld area. >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East >Qld >> > areas I would appreciate it! >> > >> > Damian >> > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Snow!! Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 22:55:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From Les Crossan in Wallsend UK.... ............................................................ Here's a few pictures to cheer you all up if you want to see some snow.... http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/snow.htm Les Les Crossan, Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W, Home of the Wallsend Stormcam - http://www.uksevereweather.org.uk 80.194.229.142:8000 /listen.pls +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:20:25 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:25:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com One of the webcam programs i downloaded did have brightness/contrast and i think gamma controls but i found this of little help. At the best of times the image would have reasonably good colour balance but would lack cloud detail. Say if a large cumulus was in view you'd be able to see the general outline/shape but inside the shape would be completely overexposed with no updraft detail visible at all, if you can picture that. I'd upload an example but i don't seem to have kep any. I'll set it all up again tomorrow and try again i guess. From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) > > Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and it > had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma > control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro > lighting :) > > > At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: > >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use my > >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have > >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn it > >down. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ben Quinn" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > > >> G'day Damian, all > >> > >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > >> > >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > >> > >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here on > >the > >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't > >have > >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the > >horizon > >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > >> > >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from > >you > >> > >> > >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe South > >> East > >> > Qld area. > >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South East > >Qld > >> > areas I would appreciate it! > >> > > >> > Damian > >> > > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': > >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Brooker, Sean SD" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Information: Port Hedland Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:42:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Information: Port Hedland

Very intense lightning storm over Port Hedland at the moment.
Threatening heavy rain but will probably bypass us again
Wind is up around to 50 kph mark

Good news about finding survivors after Zoe.

Sean

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 From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:45:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on Christmas day, you can download it from here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:47:01 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com That is welcome news. I too was fearing the worst. I can't imagine how they could have survived the storm surge . . . I feel I should also apologise for my previous outburst. While I stand by what I said, the use of an expletive was not really justified. James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:06:20 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com WOW . . .W O W Excellent stuff! It is amazing the way it just remains stationary for the entire time! Thank you! James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:46 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Hi all, I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on Christmas day, you can download it from here: http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm Rhett +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 00:10:05 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Thats fantastic news indeed.
Certainly a most tragic even under any circumstances.. reading that made me smile.


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From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:10:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com AWESOME Stuff Rhett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:45 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > Hi all, > I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on > Christmas day, you can download it from here: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > Rhett > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:50:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I had the same probs with mine, sometimes good colour, most times over exposed. doesn't matter now, the webcam i used doesn't like me a **** it self. i found that a proggy called KABcam work the best. with the ability to adjust the gamma/brightness/contrast etc etc, WHILE it was in capture mode, otheres i had tried wouldn't do that, so you had to stop and start the thing everytime you wanted to adjust something. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Quinn" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:25 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > One of the webcam programs i downloaded did have brightness/contrast and i > think gamma controls but i found this of little help. At the best of times > the image would have reasonably good colour balance but would lack cloud > detail. Say if a large cumulus was in view you'd be able to see the general > outline/shape but inside the shape would be completely overexposed with no > updraft detail visible at all, if you can picture that. I'd upload an > example but i don't seem to have kep any. I'll set it all up again tomorrow > and try again i guess. > > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > You took the words right out of my mouth, Phillip :) > > > > Ben, I used to have a Logitech Quickcam (about $90 over 2 years ago) and > it > > had software controls to adjust contrast & brightness, and also the gamma > > control that Phillip mentioned. Even settings to compensate for fluro > > lighting :) > > > > > > At 08:15 PM 1/3/03 +1100, you wrote: > > >I am planning to get a webcam up and running soon, will most likely use > my > > >Intel webcam which is pretty good. Ben your camera software should have > > >settings for gamma, if you can find it, you should just be able to turn > it > > >down. > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Ben Quinn" > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:47 PM > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Looking for weather-cams > > > > > > > > >> G'day Damian, all > > >> > > >> James Chambers has a great selection of SE Qld webcam links on his site > > >> > > >> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/links.html#web > > >> > > >> I live in Redcliffe and planned to have a webcam up an running for this > > >> storm season but coudn't find a decent camera. I have 2 sitting here > on > > >the > > >> table that are absolutely hopeless - a cheap Kodak one (which i didn't > > >have > > >> high hopes for but thought it was worth a try anyway) and another quite > > >> expensive outdoor security camera, which i was assured would do the job > > >> well. Both overexpose the sky to the point where anything above the > > >horizon > > >> is pretty much a big white glow for most of the day. I just gave up! > > >> > > >> If anyone can recommend a good camera for the job i'd love to hear from > > >you > > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm also interested in finding web/weather-cams in the Redcliffe > South > > >> East > > >> > Qld area. > > >> > If anyone knows of any web/weather-cams in the Northern NSW South > East > > >Qld > > >> > areas I would appreciate it! > > >> > > > >> > Damian > > >> > > > >> > I have redesigned 'My Website': > > >> > http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > >> > > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > >> message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:36:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost totally buried in sand. You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by grabbing some footage, and nothing else... I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a week after the event. John. p.s., Thankyou Jacob! >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Marshall Heaven" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 11:04:41 -0500 Organization: M.H. Heaven Real Estate LLC X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host7.imagelinkusa.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - heaveningreenwich.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of John Woodbridge Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All, This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost totally buried in sand. You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by grabbing some footage, and nothing else... I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a week after the event. John. p.s., Thankyou Jacob! >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM To: aussie-weather-list Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Hi All. Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to three years to become self-sufficient in food again. Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: aus-wx: images of zoe Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:44:40 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
here is a web site courtsey of the rig mailing list and from david taylor ( england)
 
For a brief text and SeaWiFS images
Stephen
 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:47:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:05:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:20 PM 3/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi All. > >Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in a >large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > >He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about 1000 >people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for 4 days >whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, which was a >far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he was expecting to >find mainly bloated decaying bodies. Good to hear there were so many survivors. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 11:08:36 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 01:36 AM 4/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short >notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert >just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a >week after the event. That sort of thing does make one wonder... But at least the island bears some good news for a change. Let's hope they can get supplies to those people and make sure they continue to be survivors. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 10:09:46 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com take a look here damian http://www.gpats.com.au this is the official supplier to the bureau of meteorology Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damian" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers > I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! > Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? > > > Damian > 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:12:59 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 04/01/2003 11:13:00 AM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com HI Damien. |--------------------------+--------------------------| | How does it work? | By viewing the colour | | LPATS GPS receiver | changes of the strike | | stations at *25 locations| symbols, Country Energy's| | in Australia detect | system control staff can | | lightning strikes. 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The map |Coffs Harbour NSW | | display is refreshed |Darwin NT | | every few seconds and the|East Ceduna SA | | colours of individual |East Sale VIC | | strike symbols change as |Geraldton WA | | they age. |Hobart TAS | | |Kalgoorlie WA | | |Lismore NSW | | |Longreach QLD | | |Meekatharra WA | | |Mildura VIC | | |Moree NSW | | |Mt Gambier SA | | |Mt Isa QLD | | |Rockhampton QLD | | |Roma QLD | | |Sydney NSW | | |Tennant Creek NT | | |Woomera SA | |--------------------------+--------------------------| "Damian" To: Sent by: cc: aussie-weather-approval at wor Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Trackers ld.std.com 04/01/2003 10:47 AM Please respond to aussie-weather I love those lightning trackers but have no idea how they work! Does anyone know exactly how a lighning tracker tracks the lighning bolts??? Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 08:16:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What a great video! It gives you a sense of the build-up of enormous power in that storm. Thanks for sharing it with us. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Rhett & AJ" To: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:45:33 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > Hi all, > I've put the video up of the development of the storm near Scone on > Christmas day, you can download it from here: > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > Rhett > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:28:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Could some one tell me why there is always spots of rain on the Grafton radar just to the North of Grafton??
I mean it is 'always' there!
What is it?
It couldn't be interferance all the time?
 
 
 
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Thankyou Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:37:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the very informative answers to my questions on lightning trackers & weather-cams yesterday peoples! Damian 'My Website': http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:39:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Due to 'ground clutter' which could be local obstructions, depending on the type of radar and its sensitivity. See
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Damian
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: question on Grafton radar

Could some one tell me why there is always spots of rain on the Grafton radar just to the North of Grafton??
I mean it is 'always' there!
What is it?
It couldn't be interferance all the time?
 
 
 
 X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:52:13 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Hi All, > >This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night >TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands >before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic >bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an >exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost >totally buried in sand. > >You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by >grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > >I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short >notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert >just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a >week after the event. It is ironic that it took the self-funded efforts of one individual, videographer and storm chaser Geoff Mackley, to both alert the world to the tragedy and to deliver the first practical relief. Whatever funds he gets from selling his footage and photos are certainly well deserved. Carl. > >John. > >p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > >>snip >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith >Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM >To: aussie-weather-list >Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > >Hi All. > >Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in >a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > >He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about >1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for >4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, >which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he >was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > >Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated >and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to >three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > >Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, >Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au (Unverified) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 13:03:53 +1000 To: aussie-weather-list From: Carl Smith Subject: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Read Geoff Mackley's report in a world exclusive article at: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,5793113,00.html Regards, Carl. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 14:07:42 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Even better news from cyclone ravaged Tikopia on 04/01/2003 13:03, Carl Smith at carls at qldnet.com.au wrote:

Hi All.

Read Geoff Mackley's report in a world exclusive article at:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,5793113,00.html






An amazing story of survival indeed, thankyou for sharing that.
What is even more amazing is the video footage by Geoff himself from ground zero, that has been screened on sky news this morning.

Simply unbelievable and shows the strength and will of the human spirit.
Geoff deserves more credit for his faultless efforts than could be imaginable.


Regards
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From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:17:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I don't mean to disagree with you Stephen, but I reckon a lot of these people will still be ok. They are (apparently) one of the most isolated people in the world and bury food and water to prepare for the cyclones etc. I'm an optimist and are hoping that they are all ok. But gee, you have to wonder.....
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:56 PM
Subject: aus-wx: update on the solomon islands from abc.net.au

 
it looks really bad
 
Phill Smith do you have any comments on this type of destruction ?
 
 
Stephen
 
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: aus-wx: Ballarat Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:27:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've just come home from a few days in Ballarat. Bugger. Could've said "hello". Must admit the few days in the "cooler" climate" felt good. We probably looked like dorks, walking around with a jumper on after our 35+ degree days and coming to cloudy and low 20's. Came home as the kids were homesick. :-( ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:47 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > We are just north of the city in Invermay, abou 2.4 klms from the end of > Doveton Street. The area used to be farmland but now houses on 5 acre blocks > seem to be the current thing. If you live here you are supposed to have > grape vines and make your own Chardonnay, but we think making wine is a > waste of drinking time ;-) Besides, we used to be apple orchardists near > Orange in NSW, and have an aversion to anything that need to be picked > en-mass... > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: I'm home > > > > I lived in and around Ballarat for a few years (1960s), where are you in > > relation to Ballarat? > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:40:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sorry for the short post and it's been said a million times before. Get an up to date virus checker everyone, and do a system check on a regular basis. I have Norton 2002 which does an incoming mail scan as well as a constant memory scan and also scans ALL outgoing mail. It's a small cost for the piece of mind.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:01 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

It is actually far more prevalent than just that e-mail address.

 

There is a plethora of virus attachments coming through hotmail at the moment.

 

Any attachment that claims to be a free Screensaver or any other suspicious executable (*.pif, *.exe *.bat etc . . .) DO NOT OPEN- delete the e-mail immediately, even if it comes from a known source. Basically, if you did not ask for it, do not use it! J

 

A little bit of common sense is the best virus prevention

 

Cheers

 

James

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wright
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Warning to all user of hotmail and msm

 

Good Morning all

 

Just letting you no that their is and e-mail called zoedos at hotmail.com witch i recive late last night please be warned he is a hacter and he will destory your pc and live you with fully languish, I stongely sugest you e-mail nine msm  at  customer.service at ninemsn.com.au
if you recive this e-mail.

 

(sorry for the off topic)

 

Regards

Michael Wright

 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 23:59:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: tc zoe devastation
Agreed :-)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:57 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Swearing & abuse

If you wish to argue the point ans swear at each other, please do it privately off the list.
 
Jane ONeill
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:08:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great news!!! Thanks mate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Smith" To: "aussie-weather-list" Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:20 AM Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:11:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Gotta jump in here! Why can we fly a plane in to see how many "dead" people there are yet not take even a biscuit for any survivors that we can throw out the window? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All, > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost > totally buried in sand. > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a > week after the event. > > John. > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > To: aussie-weather-list > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 01:33:13 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussy et al, as I type Geoff Mackley is preparing to fly a second helicopter mission with more supplies for the people of Tikopia to arrive there on the early morning of 5th January 2003. He has been hired this time by a European client to do so. Meanwhile the first government-funded aid vessels are slowly headed in that general direction... (The first vessel should have arrived late this arvo, but I have not heard anything official on it yet). It is amazing to me that a private individual can accomplish so much while the governments are still pondering what to do. But then as Geoff would say, "It's my job; I make my living storm chasing and selling the photographs." He deserves every cent he gets for his sales in my book. I have been following Geoff by e-mail and web to storms around the world for a great many years. He's the kind of bloke who just hops in and gets things done if he can see something that needs doing. Whenever he is actively working in an active storm area, you will see a link in my coverage of that particular storm on http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm so you may keep up with this modern-day adventurer. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 00:11:32 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Gotta jump in here! Why can we fly a plane in to see how many "dead" > people > there are yet not take even a biscuit for any survivors that we can > throw > out the window? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > > > Hi All, > > > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late > night > > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the > islands > > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable > bureaucratic > > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a > tad of > an > > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages > almost > > totally buried in sand. > > > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane > fly by > > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at > short > > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a > desert > > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people > until a > > week after the event. > > > > John. > > > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl > Smith > > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > > To: aussie-weather-list > > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > > > Hi All. > > > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > > Carl. > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ballarat Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 16:39:57 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well next time you come through, drop in. If it is really cold, (like 20 degrees), we will even put the fire on for you... hahaha We understand about the jumpers - we used to live in Paraburdoo. One day we flew to Perth. It was 45 degrees when we left and 9 degrees when we landed. We got into a taxi and told him to take us to the nearest shop that sold jumpers... Robyn Ballarat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:27 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ballarat > I've just come home from a few days in Ballarat. Bugger. Could've said > "hello". > Must admit the few days in the "cooler" climate" felt good. We probably > looked like dorks, walking around with a jumper on after our 35+ degree days > and coming to cloudy and low 20's. > Came home as the kids were homesick. :-( > ----- Original Message ----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:08:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey James Great Cb development photos. They are stunning. Looks like it shot up quite fast. Congrads. Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Holbeach" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and Hunter > The photos of the storm development are my favourites. > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > How long was that sequence shot over? > > James Holbeach > -------------------------------- > Trapdoor Ski Club > Mt. Hotham, Australia > ph. 0417 553 757 > http://www.trapdoor.com.au > -------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Rhett & AJ > Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 7:49 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and Hunter > > Hi Michael, > The 'doimage' javascript is something I wrote myself, so anyone can copy > it > if they like. It creates the pop-up window and loads the bigger image > based > on the name of thumbnail. I've used some php (a scripting language) to > generate the pop-up itself, but you could probably get it to work > without > php. In fact, I might give that a go when I get some time today. > > Rhett > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 10:54 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth > and Hunter > > > Excellent pictures Rhett. It is good to see you had an active Christmas > in > your area. > > The Javascript that calls up the image window DOIMAGE is that a freely > available script or is it a front page type extension ? > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rhett & AJ" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Christmas Period Reports and Photos from Tamworth and > Hunter > > > > > > Hi all, > > Well I finally got back to Sydney and have put together some reports > and > > photos I took over the Chrismas Period. > > > > 21 December 2002 - Isolated Storms bring rain to Peel Valley: > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021221_tamworth.htm > > > > 22 December 2002 - Severe Thunderstorms brings gusty winds and > lightning > to > > Tamworth, Major hail to Guyra: Some lightning photo > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021222_tamworth.htm > > > > 23 December 2002 - Thunderstorms Tamworth: Some lightning photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021223_tamworth.htm > > > > 24 December 2002 - Attunga storm chase: Rain, Lowering, Flanking Line, > > Rainbow > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021224_attunga.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Thunderstorm development South of Scone: Series of > photos > > showing development of a storm on Christmas > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_scone.htm > > > > 25 December 2002 - Severe Storm brings heavy rain to Somerton: Damage > photos > > http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20021225_somerton.htm > > > > Rhett > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 13/11/02 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 09:23:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good point John! Shows you where the primary concern of the government is doesn't it! Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 2:36 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > Hi All, > > This is certainly better news than was delivered by the various late night > TV news this evening, all of which said no aid would reach the islands > before Sunday at the earliest, due mainly to unbelievable bureaucratic > bungling. The same news reports now mention winds up to 400kph (a tad of an > exaggeration one feels) but did show some amazing scenes of villages almost > totally buried in sand. > > You can't help but feel for the survivors - watching the odd plane fly by > grabbing some footage, and nothing else... > > I find it difficult to reconcile that we live in a world where, at short > notice, we can apparently deliver 100,000 troops into the middle of a desert > just in case we want to start a war, yet can't help these people until a > week after the event. > > John. > > p.s., Thankyou Jacob! > > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Carl Smith > Sent: Saturday, 4 January 2003 12:20 AM > To: aussie-weather-list > Subject: aus-wx: First relief for cyclone ravaged Tikopia > > Hi All. > > Just heard via ABC radio that Geoff Mackley flew to Tikopia today in > a large chartered helicopter loaded with two-minute noodles. > > He is reported to have said that he was overjoyed to find that about > 1000 people had survived Zoe by hanging on to whatever they could for > 4 days whilst the wind and waves destroyed everything around them, > which was a far better survival rate than he thought possible, as he > was expecting to find mainly bloated decaying bodies. > > Apparently the only fresh water on the island is highly contanimated > and there is no fresh food, and he estimates it will take them two to > three years to become self-sufficient in food again. > > Glad to be the bearer of some positive news regarding this disaster, > Carl. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:37:58 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi everyone, I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html Hope you enjoy them! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.6] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:38:40 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2003 11:38:40.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[28A79710:01C2B578] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

You have some very nice photo's :)

Ben
BEANZVISION Photographics.

 


Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 23:21:45 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Nice pics!!! Jimmy Deguara At 05:37 PM 6/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > >Hope you enjoy them! > >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst lightning Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:06:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
 
Nice lightning show behind Mt Panorama at the moment. 2-3 flashes every 10 seconds. 
 
Had some earlier storms around Condobolin , Cowra areas this afternoon. A few blackouts reported.
 
Seems like some rain heading to Bx in next 30 min .
 
Dave
 
 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 03:01:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Ants Nice work!!!! 1 thing thoough, the 2 Thumbnails in the third row that are the same image, link to entirely diffent images Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Darwin - coldest capital city today (7/1) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:30:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, A little bit of trivia - but couldn't help notice that with a forecast top of 28 today, Darwin is forecast to be the equal coolest capital city (Hobart is also expecting 28). Darwin's1000-500hpa thickness still remains close to 580dm - well above that in any of the other capitals (I would hate to be in Melbourne if were it to experience such a high thickness value!!). The BoM forecasts for the other capitals today are: PERTH Fine, windy. Max 34 ADELAIDE Dry. Becoming milder. Max 33 MELBOURNE Afternoon cool change. Max 37 HOBART Fine. Max 28 CANBERRA Dry, Hot. Max 35 SYDNEY Chance late shower or storm. Max 29 BRISBANE Fine Max 30 Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Darwin - coldest capital city today (7/1) To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:19:15 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi all, > > A little bit of trivia - but couldn't help notice that with a forecast top > of 28 today, Darwin is forecast to be the equal coolest capital city (Hobart > is also expecting 28). > > Darwin's1000-500hpa thickness still remains close to 580dm - well above that > in any of the other capitals (I would hate to be in Melbourne if were it to > experience such a high thickness value!!). > > The BoM forecasts for the other capitals today are: > > PERTH Fine, windy. Max 34 > ADELAIDE Dry. Becoming milder. Max 33 > MELBOURNE Afternoon cool change. Max 37 > HOBART Fine. Max 28 > CANBERRA Dry, Hot. Max 35 > SYDNEY Chance late shower or storm. Max 29 > BRISBANE Fine Max 30 > > Unfortunately Darwin's already made it to 31.0, rather spoiling that record (presumably the cloud hasn't spread west as quickly as expected). Hobart's blown through its forecast max even more spectacularly (33.8 so far). Only 25.3 at Sydney though... Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 10:48:38 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There's some excellent photos in that group; several you could put on calendars. And it's always good for me to see the land I love. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Cornelius To: Aus-wx Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 17:37:58 +1000 Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:32:59 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. WARNING This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... ;) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > Hi Dale, > > When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord > - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost > all of her symptoms were cured! > > Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside > of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind > it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these > animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the > curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go > through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not > convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was > electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also > convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent > enough to only do it once! > > AC > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:58:24 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >If you feel a week pulse Oops... hopefully it will take a little less time then a *week* to feel the pulse! lol :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) > Hi all, > > The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself > some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one > end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse > though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the > weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten > the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a > pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. > > WARNING > This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for > use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... > > ;) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re: electric fences Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 14:30:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought the easiest way to tell if a fence was electrified is to let someone else go over it first... Robyn > Hi all, > > The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself > some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one > end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse > though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the > weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten > the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a > pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified. > > WARNING > This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for > use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such... > > ;) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 14:54:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: electric fences Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As long as you don't piss on it or get caught straddling it, it will only bite, not mame From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:53:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just took the time to have a look and I'll more than agree with Phil. Magnificent!!!! > There's some excellent photos in that group; several you could put on > calendars. And it's always good for me to see the land I love. > > Phil > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > > > Hope you enjoy them! > > > > -- > > Anthony Cornelius > > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > > (07) 3390 4812 > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:28:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: High Baro Pressure Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 01:36:13 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Greetings from Un-Winterlike Mena:
      I was wondering:(in simple terms) what ingredients must there be to have a baro reading higher than 31.00"(1049.8hPa)?
      I've noticed (on weatherunderground) that several towns in Mongolia have been having baro readings well above the 31.00"(1049.8hPa)mark. Earlier this afternoon (Jan 6th), the Mena Airport AWS gave a baro reading of 30.58"(1035.5hPa), and I've never seen it get much higher than this. Is their(Mongolia's) baros so high because their temps are Sooooo cold/ their humidity is dry?
Thanks for your help,
Wishing you T-storms a plenty.
David Powell
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 18:15:02 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
lololol
 
been there said that, you must have missed the post.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 1:42:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
Hi all,

The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself
some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one
end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse
though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the
weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten
the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a
pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified.

WARNING
This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for
use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such...

;)

Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


> Hi Dale,
>
> When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord
> - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost
> all of her symptoms were cured!
>
> Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside
> of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind
> it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these
> animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the
> curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go
> through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not
> convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was
> electric, my arm was sore for about Re aus-wx Lightning for the b.ems half an hour afterwards. I also
> convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent
> enough to only do it once!
>
> AC
>


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Hey Richard,
 
I got to your post a little later on further down the list. As you may know I've been interstate the last couple of weeks & had a sh*tload of emails & posts to get through on my return as you can imagine.
Had a bit of a laugh when I got to yours & wondered if/when you'd say something...  lol
;)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)

lololol
 
been there said that, you must have missed the post.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 1:42:54 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)
 
Hi all,

The easiest way to tell if a fence is electrified or not is to get yourself
some grass (live & preferably with long stems ie. straw like) & holding one
end touch the other end of the grass on the fence. If you feel a week pulse
though the grass the fence is electrified. The longer stem grass you use the
weaker the pulse will be. If you don't feel a pulse from the fence shorten
the length of grass a bit & try again. Repeat this process until you feel a
pulse or your certain the fence is not electrified.

WARNING
This process is useful only on farmers/paddock fences & NOT recommended for
use on other fences such as Prison/Security fences or the such...

;)

Regs. Paul.
(Stargazer)
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclone at bigpond.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning for the begiiner-and others :)


> Hi Dale,
>
> When I was young my mum electrocuted herself on a frayed 240V power cord
> - she had the flu (not the cold) and was very sick...within 24hrs almost
> all of her symptoms were cured!
>
> Electric fences are a stormchasing hazzard. I remember sitting outside
> of Grafton, and there was a very weak looking fence with sheep behind
> it. I thought "How could such a weak looking fence keep all of these
> animals in, I wonder if it's electric?" Of course...me being the
> curious person I am, I went to go and touch it. I had a sharp pain go
> through my wrist, and my hand withdrew from the fence! But not
> convinced, I touched it again to "make sure" - sure enough it was
> electric, my arm was sore for about half an hour afterwards. I also
> convinced my chase partner to touch it...although he was intelligent
> enough to only do it once!
>
> AC
>


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 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:42:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:02:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 21:48:06 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 9:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)
 
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 
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regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

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Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


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Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 22:32:25 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

><



Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


Regards
Dale

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Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious!  And there was definitly lightning in the area.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

 

Been an intersting day :)

 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:16:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Its not shonky at all! We saw cgs' in that area,  just because we've had some bad bushfires lately, doesn't mean everyone who goes into the forrest is an arsonist!
 
If I knew I was going to get this amount of negativity perhaps I shouldn't have posted it.
 
The fire would not of been very big and it was a very green area (and wet because of passing storms) so it would of been contained.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 9:40:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)
 
Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want to be told first up) ....
 
Just getting suspicious in my old age.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!)

Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest in storms!!

Been an intersting day :)

 
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It wasn't that serious as it was a pretty small fire, and i'm pretty sure it be out by now. Well with cg's dropping around you in a forrest area it wasn't surprising a fire started. As for the guy, he was a uni student on holidays of an Australian decent who looked to be quite in shock,  it does seem pretty reasonable to me.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)

his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

><



Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


Regards
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As to today, the storms around the area were high based crap - failed to break the cap in a hurry. The drier air overlying the moist air mixed in as the lower layers of the rain and hail shafts were evaporating. Due to the colder air aloft though, there were some larger drops which made it interesting - hail shafts not getting all the way to the ground. During the evening, I was able to get some photographs from the video camera of distant mamatus: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd01.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd02.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd03.jpg Jimmy Deguara At 11:11 PM 7/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious! And there was >definitly lightning in the area. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Peter Konnecke >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by >lightning!!) > >Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the >arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he >mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers >rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want >to be told first up) .... > >Just getting suspicious in my old age. >Pete >----- Original Message ----- >From: Phillip Basil-Jones >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > >Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. >Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire >smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what >not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) >and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had >blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang >around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter >guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we >were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max >started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a >bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, >he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence >the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to >lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email >so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest >in storms!! > > > >Been an intersting day :) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: New Weather Photos Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:17:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Absolutely awesome photos Anthony. You have had a busy and successful past few months. Some great Cb's!!! Congrads! Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: aus-wx: New Weather Photos > Hi everyone, > > I've uploaded some new photos from recent months up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photogallery/new.html > > Hope you enjoy them! > > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:08:06 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
as a firefighter who was fierfighting well before ash wednesday '83 and now currently a member of region 5 headquarters operations every fire started accidently or deliberatley no matter what conditions or how small is to be taken extremely seriously, any less would be complacent and can cause unnecessary loss of property and life.
 
how do you know this guy doesn't have the nouse to go and light a fire when a storm's on so he can blame it on a CG. where does the stereotype come from that an arsonist is a scraggy unemployed braindead loser.
a uni student on holidays? yeah, and i'm the mayor of naracoorte.
i'm certainly not saying you're definatly wrong or he's definatly lying but being that trusting toward people in this day and age is extremely dangerous.
you're obviously prepared to take that risk.
 
richard
 
 

 
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Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 11:33:34 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
It wasn't that serious as it was a pretty small fire, and i'm pretty sure it be out by now. Well with cg's dropping around you in a forrest area it wasn't surprising a fire started. As for the guy, he was a uni student on holidays of an Australian decent who looked to be quite in shock,  it does seem pretty reasonable to me.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)

his story could definatly be legit but in light of the seriousness of the situation you'd have to be a total sucker to take his story at face value.
 
richard
 
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Date: Tuesday, 7 January 2003 10:21:32 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit bylightning!!)
 
on 07/01/2003 21:18, Richard Modistach at hambone at dodo.com.au wrote:

regardless, pass the email onto police and tell them exactly what happened, they'll get him to take them back to the scene with experts and check his story and decide for themselves, it's too shonky to let pass.
richard

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Personally, if the guy is willing enough to divulge his email address and tell his story, it could be legit, but then again anything is possible. An interesting story nonetheless flip.
Thanks for sharing it.


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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP60.gif: 00000001,59aa099e,00000000,00000000 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:46:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey Bussy,
If you contact the Bureau of Meteorology Victorian Regional Office or Climate & Consultancy Section, they will be able to tell you over the phone (not the whole lot though). You can get the information for the Rutherglen AWS since it started mailed out to you or emailed to you at a price though! I think you can ring Climate Data on 03 9669 4082. Hope this helps.
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Big call but......

Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Site Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:11:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
While I was on one of my trips to the Vic BoM today, I talked to one of the forecasters who was telling me about his chasing experiences in Oklahoma. He showed me a site http://www.atmospheric-violence.com run by a person he met or heard about whilst there. It has some very interesting reports and photos. Apparently, this guy is reknown for having close calls and capturing the closest tornado footage while the camera was still in his hand...he was under a bridge while the tornado passed by 100m away. Anyway, just thought some of you may be interested.
 
Deano
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story | A Few Photos Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:15:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jimmy, though the fire from where we were must have been the smaller fire as there was no pyrocumulus. Here are some images of that day (will bring the video to next aswa) http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th01.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th02.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th03.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/7th/7th04.jpg The 4th image was the RFB near the fire. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > Hi guys, > > Although from a different angle (to the south), I can suggest that it is > most likely that lightning matched up with where the fires were. There were > two fires - one was going for a longer period and even producing a nice > pyrocumulus plume and another was a "thin plume" that was noticed later. I > doubt if arsonists would be wasting their time at the moment - lighter > winds from the NE and even cooler from the outflow and high humidity. And > there was some rain in the area from the storms as well. > > As to today, the storms around the area were high based crap - failed to > break the cap in a hurry. The drier air overlying the moist air mixed in as > the lower layers of the rain and hail shafts were evaporating. Due to the > colder air aloft though, there were some larger drops which made it > interesting - hail shafts not getting all the way to the ground. > > During the evening, I was able to get some photographs from the video > camera of distant mamatus: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd01.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd02.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0107jd03.jpg > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 11:11 PM 7/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >Mate, if you saw the poor bloke you wouldn't be suspicious! And there was > >definitly lightning in the area. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Peter Konnecke > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:02 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by > >lightning!!) > > > >Very interesting day indeed .... of course you could also have met the > >arsonist who started the fire ... possibly ? It's interesting that he > >mentioned the lightning strike (after you mentioned you were storm chasers > >rather than before (I reckon the story of the lighning strike would want > >to be told first up) .... > > > >Just getting suspicious in my old age. > >Pete > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Phillip Basil-Jones > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:42 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Interesting Story (19 year old almost got hit by lightning!!) > > > >Max and I went chasing today and came back to Sydney via the putty rd. > >Anyway up near colo heights we noticed a fairly decent amount of bushfire > >smoke so we were wondering if it was caused by a lightning strike or what > >not. We decided to head into the service station up near colo (for petrol) > >and there was some kid (19, Peter I think his name was) and he had > >blisters and cuts all up and down his leg. Anyway we decided to hang > >around a bit and watch the impending RFB (I was videoing) and this Peter > >guy walks up to us asks if we were looking for the fire. We said that we > >were storm chasers and were watching the storms heading towards us. Max > >started talking to him about storms and peter mentioned that he was on a > >bushwalk and apparently the CG that started the fire had almost hit him, > >he must of shat himself and ran 3 or 4km to this service station (hence > >the cuts etc on his leg). He said it was his first close encounter to > >lightning and I think he probably was still in shock!!! Max got his email > >so were passing him info about ASWA/WZ etc as he said he had an interest > >in storms!! > > > > > > > >Been an intersting day :) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:44:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello List,
 
I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last 18 hours or so.
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon people, get over it!
 
Max
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big call but...... Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 01:29:39 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Bussy, I've put the monthly totals I have for Rutherglen at http://www.australianweathernews.com/temp/Rutherglen%20rainfall.xls. They only go back to 1993. There have been four rainfall stations in the Rutherglen area:
 
082040 Rutherglen Netherby Wine from 1884 to 1947
082038 Rutherglen PO from 1898 to 1996
082039 Rutherglen Research Station from 1913 to date (this is now the AWS)
082085 Rutherglen Viticulture College from 1900 to 1937
 
This info might help when you're contacting the Bureau.
 
Cheers
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Tuesday, 07 January, 2003 13:47
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but......

Hey Bussy,
If you contact the Bureau of Meteorology Victorian Regional Office or Climate & Consultancy Section, they will be able to tell you over the phone (not the whole lot though). You can get the information for the Rutherglen AWS since it started mailed out to you or emailed to you at a price though! I think you can ring Climate Data on 03 9669 4082. Hope this helps.
 
Deano
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Big call but......

Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:53:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well said Max,  yeh I remember that one, I think it hit a powerbox or something right next to the road. There was an awesome flash and boom of thunder. Cg's were rather plentiful yesterday.
----- Original Message -----
From: Max
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello List,
 
I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last 18 hours or so.
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon people, get over it!
 
Max
 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:53:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Max, Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely lightning. Jimmy Deguara At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hello List, > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last >18 hours or so. >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon >people, get over it! > >Max +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Max" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:43:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Jim, I dont suppose you noticed how very low precip a couple of cells over that part of the Wollemi were? Phil and i were quite surprised. We were sitting at the servo at Colo Heights while We watched a cell pass in front of us, and once we proceeded forward, the road was almost dry! Just the odd damp patch, but definately a very low precip event, and very electrically active. Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! > Hi Max, > > Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by > lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning > tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the > origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely > lightning. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last > >18 hours or so. > >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being > >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old > >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing > >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! > >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS > >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my mind > >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were > >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! > >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon > >people, get over it! > > > >Max > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:52:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:07:38 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I am not surprised Bussy
I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present
Stephen
 
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Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:18:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 
www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:31:16 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

I understand a fair few of those lightning started fires are around the Hotham, Falls, and Buffalo area. The Dept. NRE is advising people to stay away from the Ovens Valley at the moment.

 

“The Department of Sustainability and Environment and Parks Victoria advises that people should avoid travelling to the Ovens Valley and surrounding area until the fire situation improves.”


From a friend

 

“Fires are in the south end of Keiwa Valley, from Mt Beauty they're cranking up well, one off toward Mystic, another toward Falls, with the wind getting up about 3pm, the fires have joined up toward Bogong Village. Also 2 or 3 fires up the valley toward Albury. NRE have a couple of Dromedas operating from Mt Beauty, but no helicopters”

 

The whole area is tinder dry, especially sections of the alpine national park which have not seen fire for a good many years (The last major one at Hotham was 1939 – I think)

 

While I understand the fires are a fair way from Hotham at the moment, I’d be keen to here further info- especially if it gets closer. I’ll be back at Hotham in a week or so.

 

Cheers

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 7:08 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

 

I am not surprised Bussy

I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present

Stephen

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: aus-wx: Temp Probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:55:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hey all, I apologize for bringing this topic up as it has been done before but I would like to hear the comments of a few ppl from the list. I am looking to attach a temperature probe on my car along with a compass. I remember somebody had a really good system worked out on their car where all the readings were displayed inside the car. Can anybody help me and explain what they have, the brand of the probe/compass and where I can get them from??? Jane, Jimmy...? Thanks heaps.
 
Deano
 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:23:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:31:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Max, Yes. As I said the mixing of that dreaded dry air did its job. I wonder if storm chasers can apply for drought relief since the dry air stuffed up our storms bar a few:) Jimmy Deguar At 01:43 PM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >G'day Jim, > >I dont suppose you noticed how very low precip a couple of cells over that >part of the Wollemi were? >Phil and i were quite surprised. >We were sitting at the servo at Colo Heights while We watched a cell pass in >front of us, and once we proceeded forward, the road was almost dry! >Just the odd damp patch, but definately a very low precip event, and very >electrically active. > >Max > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:53 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Hi Max, > > > > Agreed. As I said there were 2 fires both started in my opinion by > > lightning. What bothers me with some of the posts are that with lightning > > tracker which anyone can get access to, you can definitely trace the > > origins of the fires and as Max and I and other think, it is most likely > > lightning. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > At 11:44 AM 8/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Hello List, > > > > > >I'm prompted to write this due to what I've read on this list in the last > > >18 hours or so. > > >MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If we all lived life the way its being > > >suggested by a number of people on this list, wouldn't it be a great old > > >world! Everyone would be Suspicious of everyone else, everyone accusing > > >people of doing thigs which were my likely caused by natural events!!!!! > > >Yes, there was a fire North of Colo yesterday! Yes, there were NUMEROUS > > >very low precip cells in the area! There is absolutely No doubt in my >mind > > >that this fire was STARTED BY LIGHTNING! God knows, Phils and I were > > >almost hit ourselves on the New England Highway just East of Whiitingham! > > >The bolt missed us by just a few feet! (remeber that one Phil?) C'mon > > >people, get over it! > > > > > >Max > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:39:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Simon,
 
I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!
 
 
 
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 

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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:56:55 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Dean Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. Don W > Jane ONeill wrote: > > Dean & all, > > Car set out thoughts.... > > Thermometer > http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3e1bf85808e492d02740c0a87f9c072f/Product/View/Y5007 > > or if link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product > Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a > while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the > engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air > vent. > > Compass > Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the > online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they > were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by > 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn. > > Hope that's vaguely useful information to help. > > Cheers, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:14:58 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:31 PM 8/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hi Max, > >Yes. As I said the mixing of that dreaded dry air did its job. I wonder if >storm chasers can apply for drought relief since the dry air stuffed up >our storms bar a few:) YOU want drought relief? We're getting severe SDS down here, think we need the full package. :-/ Had the digital cam nearly a month, and still yet to have something decent to photograph - managed a distant shot of a couple of weak cells in the distance a while back... 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:36:45 EST Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! me too To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 10501 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Tony

Me too
Got a digi from the mother in law and as my son said we dont have to ask how to take weather pics , we need some weather to start with .


Regards
Dennis Cottle

ps .  I dont know how to use a digital cam . for thunder storms anyway . Any hints ?

 X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:41:27 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello aussie-weather people, The next NSW ASWA meeting will be held on Saturday, 11th of January. Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St, North Sydney. Time: 7pm Parking: Free in the streets around the TWC building. Press the 'Weather21' buzzer to be let in. This month, Matthew Pearce will be giving a presentation on the infamous 'Southerly Buster'. Come along, learn about it, the dynamics of it, and ask questions. Also, if you have video of your own or photos of anything to do with the weather that you'd like to share with everyone else, please bring it along. We usually order pizza as well, so bring about $6 for that. For more information, visit http://www.severeweather.asn.au/states/nsw/index.htm or email meso at iinet.net.au Friends and relatives are welcome - come along and discuss the weather! See you there, Malcolm Ninnes and Matthew Pearce NSW ASWA State Reps +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:09:37 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don wrote: > Dean > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > Don W Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy of external thermometer... I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 degree. What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any thoughts? Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:15:01 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
We've also had a fire start near Govetts Leap Lookout at Blackheath this afternoon that hasn't been picked up by the media. The sky has been full of copters and light planes from mid afternoon to dark. The NPWS person stationed at the roadblock before the lookout reckoned that half of Blackheath had come to check what was happening. In the strong northwesterly winds during the afternoon, the fire posed a threat to houses in southern Blackheath, but with all the aerial artillery and a moist SE change rolling in around 7.30, the fire didn't stand a chance.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Wednesday, 08 January, 2003 08:31
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

I understand a fair few of those lightning started fires are around the Hotham, Falls, and Buffalo area. The Dept. NRE is advising people to stay away from the Ovens Valley at the moment.

 

“The Department of Sustainability and Environment and Parks Victoria advises that people should avoid travelling to the Ovens Valley and surrounding area until the fire situation improves.”


From a friend

 

“Fires are in the south end of Keiwa Valley, from Mt Beauty they're cranking up well, one off toward Mystic, another toward Falls, with the wind getting up about 3pm, the fires have joined up toward Bogong Village. Also 2 or 3 fires up the valley toward Albury. NRE have a couple of Dromedas operating from Mt Beauty, but no helicopters”

 

The whole area is tinder dry, especially sections of the alpine national park which have not seen fire for a good many years (The last major one at Hotham was 1939 – I think)

 

While I understand the fires are a fair way from Hotham at the moment, I’d be keen to here further info- especially if it gets closer. I’ll be back at Hotham in a week or so.

 

Cheers

 

James

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of stephen galowski
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 7:08 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires

 

I am not surprised Bussy

I am now tracking all the storms in the nsw  at present

Stephen

 

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 5:53 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 08:38:35 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On a Bike?? Probably between your legs, Laurie Don Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:39:49 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase and night of lightning !!! - much, much more to be added when time allows ! http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... cheers, Michael =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: FYI Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:59:14 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Fellow Wx Freaks:
       Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me!
        C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week.
David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell
 X-Originating-IP: [203.109.174.209] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:04:26 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 00:04:53.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC88C570:01C2B772] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great work. Those microburst pictures are incredible. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:57:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Woah!! Very nice lightning shots there!! Must of been quite a spectacle to see! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:23:33 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yep especially when it was not even talked about on the news in qld untill 11:00 pm late news on ten or untill a news flash from other channels. It did cause a lot of damage and loss of power , as I was watching ion the northpower lighting tracker yesterday for several hours Stephen galowski -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phillip Basil-Jones Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:58 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Woah!! Very nice lightning shots there!! Must of been quite a spectacle to see! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:48:03 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier, I have a Subaru Forester and also have found that the temperature is very accurate! I've never been able to locate the sensor though, I'll have to search in the place where you found yours though to find it! I must admit I've been surprised at how accurate it was - of course, when the one of the dealer's found out I was a stormchaser, he tried to promote the outside temperature thermometer! I had originally planned to get another one and place it just underneath the front bumper, this is where I put it in my old car (Telstar), however I used to get a lot of road heat sometimes when stopped. But after a few tests, I decided that even if I got an external thermometer and installed it myself that I couldn't do any better than what was already given! Subaru must have put some thought into where to put the sensor - which is surprising, it's something I wouldn't have imagined most car companies would do. If you do buy another thermometer - make sure it's backlit!!! (You can get ones that plug into the ciggie lighter and have a light sensor that turn on its blacklight as soon as it gets dark), they're around the same price as normal ones. These are fantastic! No fumbling around for switches at night when you want to see the temp! AC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 12:54:16 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B73F.A7879B20 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello Fellow Wx Freaks: > Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) = > rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of = > 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an = > annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me! > C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week. > David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell > You must be looking at a different Yuma site to me - according to the CPC web site Yuma had about 50mm for the year, but virtually all of that fell on one day in late June so I guess it's possible that the (presumed) thunderstorm that caused it missed other parts of Yuma. Also noticed it's been very warm for the time of year in the central US - up near 20 C as far north as Iowa. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big call but...... To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:00:27 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C2B67A.9B62BD40 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Where can I find the rainfall records right back to when they started = > here at Rutherglen, month by month preferably. Thanks. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > (Sorry to use the list for this, but I don't have an e-mail address for Bussy and my software strips it out of the headers). Bussy - drop me a line on my Bureau address (b.trewin at bom.gov.au) and we should be able to sort something out. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:06:43 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I bought a pretty simple little indoor/outdoor temp sensor for my car. I ripped the guts out of it, and mounted it in the dashboard. The sensor I put behind the front number plate, after putting the wire through the firewall. By putting the sensor there, I've found that you get a very accurate temperature reading, with minimal influence from the engine (via radient or convective heat). It is still one of the most useful devices in my car, especially as I drive to Hotham nearly every weekend and Ice is a constant concern. Back lighting would be brilliant, instead I just put a little dashboard light above it. Cheers James p.s. Am I the only person getting each post to the list repeated twice? James Holbeach ---------------------------------------- Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia ph. +61 3 8344 6652 ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Cornelius Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:48 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Hi Laurier, I have a Subaru Forester and also have found that the temperature is very accurate! I've never been able to locate the sensor though, I'll have to search in the place where you found yours though to find it! I must admit I've been surprised at how accurate it was - of course, when the one of the dealer's found out I was a stormchaser, he tried to promote the outside temperature thermometer! I had originally planned to get another one and place it just underneath the front bumper, this is where I put it in my old car (Telstar), however I used to get a lot of road heat sometimes when stopped. But after a few tests, I decided that even if I got an external thermometer and installed it myself that I couldn't do any better than what was already given! Subaru must have put some thought into where to put the sensor - which is surprising, it's something I wouldn't have imagined most car companies would do. If you do buy another thermometer - make sure it's backlit!!! (You can get ones that plug into the ciggie lighter and have a light sensor that turn on its blacklight as soon as it gets dark), they're around the same price as normal ones. These are fantastic! No fumbling around for switches at night when you want to see the temp! AC Laurier Williams wrote: > > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 12:22:19 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi MB and Dave, Great photos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This was the most spectacular lightning display I've ever witnessed before in my life!!!!! I originally left at around 1:30pm to head down to NE NSW...but just as I got to the border I got a call from my boss needing me to work urgently (doh!) So I had to head back to Brisbane to work so I missed the first Casino cell in the day, but that wasn't too bad as the lightning display more than made up for it!!! I finished at around 5pm and was debating whether or not it would be worth heading back down again...I decided it would be so I headed south. I picked up a friend (Jason) on the way (his work was near mine and just off the M1) and we headed south (but got a nice sunset on the Gold Coast first!) We sat on Old Byron Bay Rd just north of Ballina for most of the time (from ~8pm-11:30pm!) Stormcell after stormcell kept developing and moving across! The first line had a great gustfront, while the second line had a dominant storm with an awesome inflow band! The CGs were phemomenal!!! So many of them were visible, and most of them were extremely furry!!! (ie lots of branches). I just couldn't get over how many CGs there were...I'm hoping all of my photos turn out OK (my only concern is that I used a fairly small apperature so they may not turn out as well). The video certainly has some awesome CGs (especially in slow-mo), but they're so bright they don't capture that well (well, some of them don't anyway!) It really was an amazing sight with so many CGs and active cells continually moving across. Eventually one developed just to our W, it gave some closer CGs (within 3-5km), but one of the closest was when my hair stood up on end for about 2 seconds, then stopped just as a CG struck about 1.5km away followed by a nice bang!!! It was quite an experience feeling that, and sent a quick shiver down my spine! AC Michael Bath wrote: > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 11:08:14 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe - on bikes X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Donkey's years ago, a 1956 model Yamaha I owned had a built-in "Ambient Temperature Display" and its sensor was inside the headlamp shell. It worked well providing you didn't use your headlights! Turn on the lights, and up went the temperature. I used the same 1946 model Dusting sidecar on several of my bikes, and the temperature sensor mounted inside the nose of the sidecar at the very top worked very well. When I tried using a temperature sensor on various solo motorbikes (that is, motorbikes without sidecars) they were always affected by engine heat the moment you stopped. I never found a satisfactory way to avoid this problem. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:09:37 -0000 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe > Don wrote: > > > Dean > > Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. > > Don W > > > Mmm... The consumate weather freak buys specific vehicle based on > accuracy > of external thermometer... > > I have a Subaru Outback and have been very impressed with the accuracy > of > its outside thermometer. Callibration has been done most scientifically > -- I > simply note the temperature reading whenever I drive past Mt Boyce AWS, > then > check the obs for the time when I get home! It's always accurate to > within 1 > degree. > > What has impressed me most is how little the reading is affected by > being > parked in the sun or by stationary idling, so I went hunting for the > sensor. > It is mounted about 30mm behind the front grille, away from the > radiator but > not too close to the side of the grille. If you're buying a Dick Smith > special, that would be a good place to mount the sensor. > > Jane's Dick Smith recommendation has me thinking I might install one on > my > motorbike. Now, I wonder where the optimum location is for bikes? Any > thoughts? > > Laurier > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "David James Powell" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: FYI X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.00 X-IPAddress: 208.189.4.71 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:36:23 -0600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Blair: The rain report on Yuma was mentioned on the US Weather Channel. Yes, some high temps in the northern Plains are running ~20F above normal--ahead of a powerful Canadian Cold Front. The Santa Ana winds have caused some powerline damage in S. California. Yesterday (Jan 7th) Ontario, Ca had a gust to 90mph(144.9kph) which is also causing record highs among which was 88F(31.1C) at Santa Ana(Fire Sta), Ca. Even the "Nation's Icebox", International Falls, MN had a daily record high of 46F(7.7C). This time of year, such excessive warmth is short-lived, usually just in front of a powerful cold front. > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C2B73F.A7879B20 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > Hello Fellow Wx Freaks: > > Well, yesterday (Jan 7th) Yuma, Arizona recorded 0.02IN(0.5mm) = > > rain, which isn't much---but they got only 0.03IN(0.7mm) in ALL of = > > 2002!!! Yuma is generally regarded as the driest city in the US, with an = > > annual average rainfall of 2.70IN(68.5mm). That's way too dry for me! > > C-Ya'll Later and have a Great rest of your week. > > David (flurries poss this weekend!) Powell > > > > You must be looking at a different Yuma site to me - according to the > CPC web site Yuma had about 50mm for the year, but virtually all of > that fell on one day in late June so I guess it's possible that the > (presumed) thunderstorm that caused it missed other parts of Yuma. > > Also noticed it's been very warm for the time of year in the central > US - up near 20 C as far north as Iowa. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------ ------------------------ > > > -- Sent using Voltage Net Webmail http://www.voltage.net/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Updated my site Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:13:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello, I've just got around to updating my site. I've added 2 new pages
2003:-
(various only one image so far) and
7th of January 2003 pages.
 
Site index:-
 
Still have more to come soon :)
 
thanks
 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:31:58 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Jane & all,
 
I've found the other indoor/outdoor thermomotor (cat.Y5037) that Dick Smith sells useful in my vehicle.
This unit also has a clock, a large easy to read display & has a blue backlight that turns on for a few seconds when you press the large button (east to read at night).
 
And it's cheaper too ...   :P  lol 
(Of *course* it was the added features on this unit that made me buy it & NOT the cheaper price... oh no, no, no...  :)  
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe

Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com
 
Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
***The journey is the reward***
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 From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 16:21:09 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Message
Yeah unfortunately DSE actually stopped producing the one that I use. It plugs into your cigarette lighter socket and has a light sensor so that it is permanently back-lit when it's dark.
 
Because I drive a beat-up ute I don't mind tinkering with it so I made a little white shelter (not quite a Stevenson Screen ;) for the probe that directs air through but shields it from sun/heat/rain etc. and hung it under my side mirror. Works well.
 
I love driving on frosty nights and watching it fluctuate between 2° and -3° as you go in and out of hollows.
 
Andrew.
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, 9 January 2003 4:02 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe

Hi Jane & all,
 
I've found the other indoor/outdoor thermomotor (cat.Y5037) that Dick Smith sells useful in my vehicle.
This unit also has a clock, a large easy to read display & has a blue backlight that turns on for a few seconds when you press the large button (east to read at night).
 
And it's cheaper too ...   :P  lol 
(Of *course* it was the added features on this unit that made me buy it & NOT the cheaper price... oh no, no, no...  :)  
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Temp probe

Dean & all,
 
Car set out thoughts....
 
Thermometer
 
or if  link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air vent.
 
Compass
Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn.
 
Hope that's vaguely useful information to help.
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com
 
Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com
 
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
 
***The journey is the reward***
--------------------------------
 
 

 
 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 15:51:39 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the surrounding clouds so well. What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he have on the camera? I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... One that could give results like that would be great! :))) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:02:07 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Discussions on inflow vs roll cloud/shelf cloud features Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Sorry the previous one was sent accidently I had not finished... At the moment I am trying to work out whether the pics of the NE NSW storms are indicating inflow band or shelf cloud/roll cloud features. My definition and research into inflow bands are that inflow bands are usually extended in front of the storms and channel between the inflow and the pseudo front operating from the storm itself. Note that inflow bands have flow into the storm almost parallel to the inflow band Coffs Harbour inflow band had NE inflow and the inflow band extending to the NE from the storms mesocyclone. Thsi is usually a sign of significant rotation and that the storm is ready to drop a tornado. Which it did a short time after - well let's say a tornadic funnel. Roll clouds normally have winds flowing over and usually perpendicular to the roll cloud and interacting with outflow. This si what I believe was happening in the NE NSW storms. After checking the direction of the storms - NE and the direction looking at the storm - SE, it seems we are looking almost through the back of the storm. The precipitation is on the southern side generally. What I have noticed of storms in recent years of chasers that when storms approach the ocean, their flows which are normally invisible become visible - well where they intersect. This is the feature being referred to in the NE NSW storms http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg first signs of development http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb22.jpg http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb26.jpg this is probably a better example of the feature meeting the updraught further in These storms were apparently over the ocean when the features were observed. What I am suggesting is, were these features similar to the following types of features: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd36.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd40.jpg http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_01_v.jpg note the inflow (although we cannot tell what that is from this angle) is above and the roll cloud is below. http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_02_v.jpg Not a good example but still showing features of flow interacting with the moist air over the ocean: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1124jd05.jpg A better example: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0208am01.jpg remember this looking from a different angle with respect to the storm and the guys would have been closer to the feature and looking towards the rain area. Also this is slightly ok just recalled US examples from last year: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd04.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd03.jpg now the following is interesting http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0527jd01.jpg there is inflow on the left hand side which extended a long way out of the storm beyond what this photo suggested but on the right is a detached roll cloud. Anyway, some thoughts on this spectacular event in NE NSW - good to see some action up there. Any other thoughts from others? Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:56:23 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Struth !!!!!!!!!!!!! me too Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:36 AM 8/01/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Tony > >Me too >Got a digi from the mother in law and as my son said we dont have to ask >how to take weather pics , we need some weather to start with . Indeed... At least it was Christmas and all that stuff, so it's had some use... Just not for WX. :-( >Regards >Dennis Cottle > >ps . I dont know how to use a digital cam . for thunder storms anyway . >Any hints ? I'm just experimenting myself. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Temp Probe Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 18:18:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dean.
 
I don't know how much you want to spend or how quick you want it but I play around with software development and microprocessors. If you can't come up with anything I could knock you up an electronics sensor to display temp and humidity with say a 30 foot cable. Off the top of my head you caould also have a real time clock built in and an eeprom to save settings. Just a thought. I am going a bit further at some stage and adding a oem GPS system to a 2 way radio and it will send data back to my house of conditions etc, location and whatever. I have someone donating the gps so it will be a spare time project.
 
On the software front I am still putting together a weather station software system. Jane has tried it for me and her thoughts made me change things a bit. MAybe I could have the car temp sensor send data back to it????
 
Regards, Peter
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Sgarbossa [mailto:deansgar at alphalink.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 8:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Temp Probe

Hey all, I apologize for bringing this topic up as it has been done before but I would like to hear the comments of a few ppl from the list. I am looking to attach a temperature probe on my car along with a compass. I remember somebody had a really good system worked out on their car where all the readings were displayed inside the car. Can anybody help me and explain what they have, the brand of the probe/compass and where I can get them from??? Jane, Jimmy...? Thanks heaps.
 
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X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:55:47 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:39 9/01/03 +1100, you wrote: >Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase >and night of lightning !!! >- much, much more to be added when time allows ! > >http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > >A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > >cheers, Michael amazing lightning shots JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:10:34 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at work now keep an eye out for things like this http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.152.105] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:27:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 08:27:48.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDF34800:01C2B7B8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Paul, I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 - produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are breathtaking!!!!! Cheers, Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stargazer" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Hi Michael, > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > surrounding clouds so well. > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > have on the camera? > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > Regs. Paul. > (Stargazer) > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Bath" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > > and night of lightning !!! > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > =================================================================== > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:30:40 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: Updated my site Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com G'day Phil, Wow, let me be the first to congratulate you - very nice looking site with some really cool pics there :) Got that one bookmarked to have a look on the weekend when I have a bit more time up my sleeve, heheh. Mal At 03:13 PM 1/9/03 +1100, you wrote: > Hello, I've just got around to updating my site. I've added 2 new pages > 2003:- http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/2003.htm and 7th of >January 2003 pages. >http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/07012003.htm Site index:- >http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/wxau/main.htm Still have more to >come soon :) thanks +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 19:49:09 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got a few of those but no where near as prevalent as that one :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:59:49 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:27 PM 9/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All >photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the >camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful >for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter >speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process >before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs >in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! I've just got a Fiji 2 megapixel camera with 6x zoom. I have experimented with night time photography, and found the shutter opens for around 2 seconds with good results. The other good thing about the camera is that the processing time is very fast, < 2 seconds. For normal photography, it produces excellent pictures. I want to get the 128MB memory card, so I can leave the camera in the highest resolution and quality settings all the time and still be able to take 300 photos in a sitting. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 20:21:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Mal, Please accept my apologies for Saturday night. Sorry I won't be able to attend the meeting. Hope that you all have a good night. Judy Mayo Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:41 PM Subject: aus-wx: Next NSW ASWA Meeting - this Saturday > Hello aussie-weather people, > > The next NSW ASWA meeting will be held on Saturday, 11th of January. > Venue: The Weather Company, 7 West St, North Sydney. > Time: 7pm > Parking: Free in the streets around the TWC building. > Press the 'Weather21' buzzer to be let in. > > This month, Matthew Pearce will be giving a presentation on the infamous > 'Southerly Buster'. > Come along, learn about it, the dynamics of it, and ask questions. Also, > if you have video of > your own or photos of anything to do with the weather that you'd like to > share with everyone > else, please bring it along. > > We usually order pizza as well, so bring about $6 for that. For more > information, visit > http://www.severeweather.asn.au/states/nsw/index.htm or email > meso at iinet.net.au > > Friends and relatives are welcome - come along and discuss the weather! > > See you there, > Malcolm Ninnes and Matthew Pearce > NSW ASWA State Reps > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: gthurtel at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:33:21 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Geoff Thurtell Subject: Re: aus-wx: Temp probe Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dean, Don and all, That applies to the Holden Astra too. I have been very impressed with mine since buying the Astra in early 2002. (That is, the car and the external thermometer). The Astra thermometer is probably the same as the Barina. Geoff At 09:56 PM 8/01/03 +1100, you wrote: >Dean >Buy a Barina or a Peugot... very accurate outside temps installed. >Don W > > > Jane ONeill wrote: > > > > Dean & all, > > > > Car set out thoughts.... > > > > Thermometer > > > http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/3e1bf85808e492d02740c0a87f9c072f/Product/View/Y5007 > > > > or if link doesn't work go to www.dse.com.au and search for product > > Y5007 I have mine glued under the bumperbar, but it tends to take a > > while to settle down on hot days because it gets more air from the > > engine that in front - next one I'll try to mount closer to an air > > vent. > > > > Compass > > Bought from Australian Geographic shop but I can't find it in the > > online catalogue, but a search of the store might turn one up - they > > were $99 a couple of years ago, digital display, could be attached by > > 2 suction pads & could be calibrated by doing a u-turn. > > > > Hope that's vaguely useful information to help. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Geoff Thurtell Schofields NSW +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.40.233.61] From: "ROBERT HALL" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 10:18:01 +0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jan 2003 10:18:01.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[63DEE750:01C2B7C8] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

From: Rob Hall

For Lightning photography, film still rules. I lock my shutter open, (Nikon F90x) and set the timer for 5minutes, aiming at the busiest part of the sky. I f I get a good display in the time, I switch the camera off momentarally, the remote timer continuing to to run. When the camera goes back on, the remaining amount of the 5 mins continues. What success? Pure luck!.

Rob Hall

>From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:59:49 +1100
>
>At 07:27 PM 9/01/2003 +1100, you wrote:
>
>>I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March
>>2001. All
>>photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for
>>the
>>camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very
>>useful
>>for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the
>>shutter
>>speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to
>>process
>>before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most
>>lightning occurs
>>in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot
>>faster!
>
>I've just got a Fiji 2 megapixel camera with 6x zoom. I have
>experimented with night time photography, and found the shutter
>opens for around 2 seconds with good results. The other good thing
>about the camera is that the processing time is very fast, < 2
>seconds.
>
>For normal photography, it produces excellent pictures. I want to
>get the 128MB memory card, so I can leave the camera in the highest
>resolution and quality settings all the time and still be able to
>take 300 photos in a sitting. :)
>
>73 de Tony, VK3JED
>http://vkradio.com
>
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The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:18:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are my lightning pics btw : http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! >If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are >breathtaking!!!!! > >Cheers, >Dave Ellem =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:56:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very impressive Patrick. We also have a fire west of Wollongong near Cordeaux Dam. It is very vigourous with pyro capping, kind of a jolt fpor those who think the drought is over.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Thanks Simon,
 
I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!
 
 
 
 
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.
 

Cheers
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Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fires

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 

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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:29:49 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Dave,
 
I was originally looking at the Sony 3.2M Cyber-shot DSCP7 http://www.sony.com.au/product_detail_content.asp?CCod=16298&CCod2=16712&ProdCod=DSCP7 trying to keep around the $1,000 mark when I came across the Fuji FinePix S304 http://shop.centre.net.au/?prid=000PBB&it=product & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs304/index.html which seems like more camera for less $$$.
 
Then I spotted the Fuji FinePix S602 Zoom http://shop.centre.net.au/index.html?cat=000004&it=product&prid=000LXW & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs602z/index.html for *just a little more $$$* my budget flew straight out the window, I mean how many cameras do you buy in a life time? ;)
 
What do you think of these cameras & would you still spend the extra $$$ & get the Canon G3 over them?
 
A penny for your thoughts?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:06:58 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow, what can i say. It was a pretty crummy afternoon here in the Illawarra. The southerly buster caused some damage, which most folk confused with the weak storms. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a chase > and night of lightning !!! > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 6/01/03 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 22:52:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hehehe... got to love them cloud movements in some of the longer time exposures :))) ie. http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg & http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb18.jpg Absolutely stunning photos Michael, well done! I wish I could do so well... What equipment/settings were you using? Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > Here are my lightning pics btw : > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html > > what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:28:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20 already feels like a kids toy. My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix 5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30 secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also has a 8X optical zoom. We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR, but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings. For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also has a bulb which can go for 60 secs. All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time lightning proof location. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Ellem" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > G'day Paul, > > I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All > photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the > camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful > for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter > speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process > before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs > in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! > > If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 - > produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of > research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I > wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. > > If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are > breathtaking!!!!! > > Cheers, > Dave Ellem > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stargazer" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > > surrounding clouds so well. > > > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > > have on the camera? > > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not sure > > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > > > Regs. Paul. > > (Stargazer) > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Bath" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a > chase > > > and night of lightning !!! > > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. 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hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000Re aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial rRe aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems eport form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
> > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au
> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
> > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
> > > ===================================================================
> > >
> >
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP62.gif: 00000001,67b1bfaa,00000000,00000000 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:48:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi
 
You can read a professional review at
 
 
Just be aware that the CCD is 3.1 mp, not 6mp, the output is interpolated to 6mp. But is certainly has the goods in regard to manual controls.
 
The 304 Fuji has the 6X optical going for it and that is about it, no manual controls seriously limit it at the price range it is competing in.
 
I notice at the site you are looking at there is an Olympus 5mp camera with manual controls for $1200, only downer is the max 8 sec shutter.
 
Michael
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Digicams... Weather chaser equipment ;)

Hi Dave,
 
I was originally looking at the Sony 3.2M Cyber-shot DSCP7 http://www.sony.com.au/product_detail_content.asp?CCod=16298&CCod2=16712&ProdCod=DSCP7 trying to keep around the $1,000 mark when I came across the Fuji FinePix S304 http://shop.centre.net.au/?prid=000PBB&it=product & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs304/index.html which seems like more camera for less $$$.
 
Then I spotted the Fuji FinePix S602 Zoom http://shop.centre.net.au/index.html?cat=000004&it=product&prid=000LXW & http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs602z/index.html for *just a little more $$$* my budget flew straight out the window, I mean how many cameras do you buy in a life time? ;)
 
What do you think of these cameras & would you still spend the extra $$$ & get the Canon G3 over them?
 
A penny for your thoughts?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
 

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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 23:34:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Michael, The Nikon Coolpix 5700 http://www.maxwell.com.au/photo/cameras/digital/cool5700.html look like a great camera but at $2,599 rrp... Man, I wish! :((( It has a bulb time limit of 5 mins, see http://www.maxwell.com.au/photo/cameras/Digital/cool5700_spec.html & look under *Shutter* The 4300 looks interesting though... Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Thompson" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast > that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20 > already feels like a kids toy. > > My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix > 5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30 > secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also > has a 8X optical zoom. > > We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR, > but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings. > > For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a > Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can > be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also > has a bulb which can go for 60 secs. > > All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time > lightning proof location. > > Michael > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Ellem" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > G'day Paul, > > > > I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001. > All > > photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the > > camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful > > for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter > > speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process > > before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning > occurs > > in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster! > > > > If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon > G3 - > > produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of > > research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images > I > > wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job. > > > > If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are > > breathtaking!!!!! > > > > Cheers, > > Dave Ellem > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stargazer" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the > > > surrounding clouds so well. > > > > > > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he > > > have on the camera? > > > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not > sure > > > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from... > > > One that could give results like that would be great! :))) > > > > > > Regs. Paul. > > > (Stargazer) > > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Michael Bath" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM > > > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > > > > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a > > chase > > > > and night of lightning !!! > > > > - much, much more to be added when time allows ! > > > > > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm > > > > > > > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially.... > > > > > > > > cheers, Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================================================== > > > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > > > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > > > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > > > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > > > > =================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 6/01/03 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 08:43:15 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Almost all were taken at F4 (a few later ones at F5.6), 50mm lens, 100 speed film (and my old Nikon FG20), exposure times were up to about 2 mins, but mainly about 30 seconds for the last 35 or so shots when the storm went ballistic. Certainly cloud movement is a problem when the storm is not giving off much lightning :) cheers, Michael At 10:52 PM 9/1/2003 +1030, you wrote: >Hehehe... got to love them cloud movements in some of the longer time >exposures :))) > >ie. http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg & >http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb18.jpg > >Absolutely stunning photos Michael, well done! I wish I could do so well... >What equipment/settings were you using? > >Regs. Paul. >(Stargazer) >http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Bath" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:48 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning > > > > > > Here are my lightning pics btw : > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb20030109.html > > > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/mb2003010902.html > > > > what an unbelievable night !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:20:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
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> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
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 Embedded Content: IMSTP63.gif: 00000001,2ed3193c,00000000,00000000 From: "Andrew McDonald" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Low rainfall Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:59:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jan 2003 01:59:30.0700 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9F4FCC0:01C2B84B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After travelling for the last two weeks through western NSW and far western QLD I have only just been able to realise the severity of this drought. South western QLD in particular was as you describe "devoid of anything". Even the slightest breeze kicks up a dust storm and the local elders were saying that they have never seen anything like this at all and that is was far worse than anything they remember. Thargomindah servo attendants were saying they were blessed just before Christmas as they received 4mm... Andrew McDonald -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of R & R McKenzie Sent: Monday, 30 December 2002 11:14 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Low rainfall It is too easy to look at the weather patterns and the drought and say 'it has never been so bad', but speaking to family in the Wimmera region of Victoria, I was told that this is not uncommon. Perhaps with better communication technology we are able to see every drought effected part of the country so easily and hear about it constantly. I remember as a small child seeing thousands of sheep in the long paddock almost every year. Where I grew up in the NT we had a dog which didn't see rain until she was 3. Each year through the 1960s we endured months and months of dust-storms in what should have been our wet season. That drought extended from the Territory right down through Queensland and well into NSW. The black soil plains of Queensland were not just dry, but completely devoid of anything - not a trace of vegetation to be found. Whilst we might be tempted to blame global warming and/or the hole in the ozone layer for the increasing incidence of drought, it is just not true. There were worse droughts 100 years ago and 50 years ago and a fairly bad one in the 1970s. Robyn Subject: aus-wx: Low rainfall > Afternoon all, > > Unless I get 150mm in the next 36 hours to get me to my average, I'll > have managed only about 640mm for 2002 (my 6 year ave is 812mm) - driest > month this year was November with a total of 19mm. I know that's a heck > of a lot more than many people living in harder hit areas. > > What amazed me is the length and breadth of the area effected by this > looong dry spell - in all my life, I have never seen such a wide area > affected by drought, nor can remember one where dams so far afield were > dry. http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/112209.jpg The southern > tablelands of NSW see their fair share of dry spells, but over the past > few months I have travelled from western Victoria to northern New South > Wales.....and almost all of it has been horrendously dry. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/1126tdu01.jpg I've never seen the > Long Paddock used as extensively, in fact stock are moving along major > roads, not just the back roads atm. > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/TDU2002/113001.jpg (this btw, does not > make for ideal stormchase conditions.....) > > My New Year's wish is for slow and steady soaking rain for all (but not > too much, or too fast that the dams end up with all of the washaway from > the paddocks) > > Best wishes to all for the New Year, and please rain for all, > > Jane > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:46:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The spout gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon accompanied by three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and must have been a pain for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more fires could have started up farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire was just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway on a very hot and windy day. Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > Jane > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:58:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Robyn & all, I've got more images of this coming from the photographer and will put them up when received. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:46 Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this > 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't > have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The spout > gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon accompanied by > three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and must have been a pain > for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more fires could have started up > farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire was > just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway on a very > hot and windy day. > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM > Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > > > > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far western > > suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! Some people > > manage to get in the right place at the right time!!...and the guys at > > work now keep an eye out for things like this > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > > > Jane > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:17:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. I am in need of a few/lot of testers to try some weather software I am putting together. It connects via the net to several (limited by your link and memory) to remote weather servers and displays info on a screen you design using an editor simalar to a web page editor. I simply need a few people to run the rough copy to see how my server handles multiple connections. If anyone is interested please contact me offlist..... -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:34:59 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Fantastic. The first was a great shot. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:59 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Robyn & all, I've got more images of this coming from the photographer and will put them up when received. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:46 Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > We were driving past this fire on our way back to Ballarat when this > 'ash-spout' was as it's best. It was an amazing sight - of course we didn't > have a camera with us... so we just watched for a little bit. The > spout gradually collapsed into a huge whirly-wind and was soon > accompanied by three more. They stayed at the edge of the fire and > must have been a pain for the fire crews - it was easy to see how more > fires could have started up > farther out when these things were sucking up ash and embers. The fire > was just a grass fire over flat paddocks next to the Western Highway > on a very hot and windy day. > > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:10 PM > Subject: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' > > > > This from the front page of the Melton Express Telegraph a far > > western suburb (actually a town) of Melbourne, a "burnoff devil"!!! > > Some people manage to get in the right place at the right > > time!!...and the guys at work now keep an eye out for things like > > this > > > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank.jpg > > > > Jane > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 14:40:32 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ok peter send a copy up please stephen sgalow at ihug.com.au -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter May Sent: Friday, 10 January 2003 1:17 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: in need of some weather software testers Hi all. I am in need of a few/lot of testers to try some weather software I am putting together. It connects via the net to several (limited by your link and memory) to remote weather servers and displays info on a screen you design using an editor simalar to a web page editor. I simply need a few people to run the rough copy to see how my server handles multiple connections. 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Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thanks for that michael i'll take that into consideration and check it out, reviews are good but first hand opinions are always a good backup as to bottom line comparisons, btw, did i say 6mp, doh, should have been 5mp.
 
regards
richard

 
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Date: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:46:00 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
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Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



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From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000Re aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial rRe aus-wx NE NSW low precipit.ems eport form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ===================================================================
> > > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au
> > > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/
> > > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/
> > > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/
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That is, the deepening Tasman Sea low starting to get some infeed from the monsoon depression, or so it appears.
I remember something like this happened 1 or 2 years ago.
 
 
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See what you mean. Lots I don't understand or ever will but what happened back then? A Pacific cyclone perhaps. I hear everyone laughing :-))
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Thought this looked interesting:
 
 
That is, the deepening Tasman Sea low starting to get some infeed from the monsoon depression, or so it appears.
I remember something like this happened 1 or 2 years ago.
 
 
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 From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:03:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Our skys are filled with an occasional chopper or 2 heading for the fires in the couple of National Parks around Canberra. Being an ex Numurkah boy, I spent many a time over in your area both socially and with the CFA.....
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Sent: Saturday, 11 January 2003 9:05 AM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky

I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
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I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 08:43:27 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
hi bussy,
 
saw all those fires on tv, looks like a weekendus horribilus for vic.
 
december...nsw.
january........vic.
february......s.a.?
 
richard
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 8:37:38 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky
 
I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 
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I suppose the 5700 selling point is the fast 8X zoom. To be perfectly honest I have counted on one hand the number of times I wished for something more than the 3X on my digital. 99% of the storm pics are taken at the 1X end of the scale, if anything a slightly smaller bottom end like a 28mm egquivalent would be more useful. The Kodak 4800 has that.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

thanks for that michael i'll take that into consideration and check it out, reviews are good but first hand opinions are always a good backup as to bottom line comparisons, btw, did i say 6mp, doh, should have been 5mp.
 
regards
richard

 
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Date: Friday, 10 January 2003 8:46:00 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
You are probably right Richard, I am only going on memory from the few minutes I had it in my hand. To be perfectly honest after seeing it in the flesh I would not buy one. I think the difference between the $1000 4300 and $2500 5700 is not justified.
 
Michael
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning

hi michael,
 
i've been drooling over the 5700 for yonks, i was under the impression the max bulb was 5mins according to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikoncp5700/page2.asp.
thats why i've singled this one out, longer bulb setting than most amoungst other great features like 8x zoom and 6mp.
 
richard
 
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Date: Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:55:57 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
 
The Canon G3 is certainly on my wish list too. Technology is moving so fast
that whatever you buy will feel dated a couple years later. My Canon A20
already feels like a kids toy.

My brother in law who is much richer then me recently got a Nikon Coolpix
5700. This one has Bulb settings, but the bulb has a maximum of either 30
secs or 1 min, which has to be selected through the menus. The camera also
has a 8X optical zoom.

We can be tempted to curse digital for not having the endless B like a SLR,
but digital pictures simply become very noisy at longer B settings.

For those whose budget does not stretch as far as a G3, I would suggest a
Nikon 4300. It has many of the features of the G3, and even the 5700. It can
be had for around $1000 at present which is great for a 4mp camera. It also
has a bulb which can go for 60 secs.

All this of course is pointless if like me you live in a night time
lightning proof location.

Michael



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Ellem" <stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning


> G'day Paul,
>
> I use a Kodak DC4800 - 3.1mp with 3x zoom. I've had it since March 2001.
All
> photos were taken with a shutter speed of 16 secs (the maximum for the
> camera) and F-stops were between 3.4 and 9.5. Having a digi is very useful
> for lightning photography as far as experimenting goes, but the shutter
> speed is a pain. After being open for 16secs it takes 20secs to process
> before I can take the next one. That is the killer, as most lightning
occurs
> in that time! I guess newer cameras would process the photos a lot faster!
>
> If I could by a digi for under $2000 now I would probably go the Canon
G3 -
> produces beautiful crisp clear images! But make sure you do plenty of
> research before you buy. My hasty purchase of my camera resulted in images
I
> wasn't overly thrilled with! Still it does an alright job.
>
> If you've got time, check Michael Baths photos from last night - they are
> breathtaking!!!!!
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ellem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
>
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Love them lightning pics, especially the first pic how lit lights up the
> > surrounding clouds so well.
> >
> > What digi cam does Dave use for these shots & what setup/exposure did he
> > have on the camera?
> > I'm looking at getting a digi cam myself in the near future & I'm not
sure
> > yet on which digi cam to get, there are *so many* to choose from...
> > One that could give results like that would be great! :)))
> >
> > Regs. Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Bath" <mbath at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:09 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: NE NSW low precipitation storms and amazing lightning
> >
> >
> > > Please check out the initial report form NE NSW last night - what a
> chase
> > > and night of lightning !!!
> > > - much, much more to be added when time allows !
> > >
> > > http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm
> > >
> > > A few of Dave Ellem's digi pics are on display initially....
> > >
> > > cheers, Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Broadford is covered by smoke haze, and the smell is unmistakable.
Cheers Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Awful sky

I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was a very fiery red.
Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:33:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Afternoon all, I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol delivered in from over the border. Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland using it too? Thanks for your thoughts, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:55:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The only company who openly admits to using ethanol is BP who are trialing it at a select few service stations in Qld. But the general feeling that seems to be going around is that most if not all companies are using ethanol in there unleaded petrol. I only use Optimax or Synergy in my car and fortunately the 'premium' unleaded fuels can't be blended with ethanol as from what I have been told it is not compatible with some of the additives they use. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:57:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As far as I know most independents in NSW use ethanol. I avoid it like the plague. If your car is running like that it's a sure sign the 'cheap' petrol is doing it no good. It would be good if all these public servants in all levels of government would agree on the implementation of uniform rules re ethanol and information pertaining to it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:00:02 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Most of them are using the E10 mixture and agreed, the car runs like a piece of rubbish.
Ive since found out that selected independant stations are selling fuel with NO ethanol content, and the car is now running like the literal rocket!

For Queenslanders... the cut price Woolworths Fuel stations sell with NO ethanol content at all, hence it is where i fill up.
Lawnmowers, brushcutters and other motorised (petrol reliant) equipment are at the same risk of engine damage also.


Regards
Dale





on 11/01/2003 15:33, Jane ONeill at cadence at australianskynweather.com wrote:

Afternoon all,

I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse
(and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've
determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.

Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know
Shell isn't)?  The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are
apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol
delivered in from over the border.

Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland
using it too?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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 From: "Chris Daley" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:01:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry, also meant to mention to be careful when you look at going to some of the smaller chains like Burmah and Metro Fuel here in Vic. (Not sure if they are interstate, but keep an eye out for them) They sometimes use imported fuel from Asia which IS blended with ethanol. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Daley" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > The only company who openly admits to using ethanol is BP who are trialing > it at a select few service stations in Qld. But the general feeling that > seems to be going around is that most if not all companies are using ethanol > in there unleaded petrol. I only use Optimax or Synergy in my car and > fortunately the 'premium' unleaded fuels can't be blended with ethanol as > from what I have been told it is not compatible with some of the additives > they use. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 4:33 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > > > > Afternoon all, > > > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > > delivered in from over the border. > > > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > > using it too? > > > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:17:55 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-108.7, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like that, not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to run 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really forward thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in australia after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol. David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+H7cTZOfFgbBAbXARAkToAKCTbcm67wdgmlBv3ejwidH1quDEcgCeKXoh 7QU3RzSJ5Q1VV+kcjbBuO3A= =tgYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:36:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David & all, Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig. I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals & stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that they are using E10. Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an insignificant part of the engine....... >What I'd like to see is cars designed to run > 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from > other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. Isn't petrol a derivative of oil? Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Findlay" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like that, > not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to run > 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil from > other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really forward > thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in australia > after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol. > > David > > - -- > If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach > them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+H7cTZOfFgbBAbXARAkToAKCTbcm67wdgmlBv3ejwidH1quDEcgCeKXoh > 7QU3RzSJ5Q1VV+kcjbBuO3A= > =tgYl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 16:55:04 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin (score=-108.8, required 5, AWL, BALANCE_FOR_LONG, IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT, USER_AGENT_KMAIL, USER_IN_WHITELIST, X_NOT_PRESENT) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16:36, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom: > Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car > is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig. Not being a mechanic I don't know exactly what courses this to happen the first time this type of petrol is used, but I can only speculate that the computers aren't designed to tune the engine for the slightly different preformance characteristics of ethanol. > I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will > be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals & > stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any > servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that > they are using E10. Actually one we used a week ago on the Pacific highway did say that it used 10% ethanol. Can't remember where though. Others advertised 0%. > Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the > valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes > of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay > the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty > which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an > insignificant part of the engine....... Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose. > Isn't petrol a derivative of oil? Yes but it can also be synthesized chemically from other hydrocarbons. In any case I'm not saying that we should be using ethanol in current vehicles, only that vehicles that can use it should be developed. Thanks, David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+H7/IZOfFgbBAbXARAnTFAJ9O0i7c9AvesrX9ohmpXb0zx0HigwCeJWtC oboVf9bUe2zn5CeAUoaQnQs= =Kzei -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: cdsmith at bigpond.net.au To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 18:00:09 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.02) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane and all, Ethanol in petrolshould not make a great difference if the proportion is ten percent or less........unfortunately there is no legal requirement to show the proportion. I work for Shell in Geelong and talking with an interstate tanker driver it seems that a lot of ethanol is secretly put into service station tanks so that excise is avoided and profits are therefore 45cpl higher than they would be. He was talking about NSW. The big oil majors have a lot to lose with the authorities if caught doing this so I would say small servo operators and bigger indipendants would be the most likely to be involved. Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that good and is not worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and has additives (MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At Shell we don't even allow this stuff. It's horrible. I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and prices). Blatant plug<<<<<>>>>> The composition of Optimax means that it does give better performance and fuel economy (varies from car to car of course)......and Geelong Refinery is the only one in Australia that can make the components needed for Optimax, so we atleast support the local industry by using Opitmax, not overseas refineries that supply the "supermarkets". I will ask at work when I am on shift again what is going on regarding ethanol and other quality issues. This will be 15/01/03. Hope this helps a bit Cheers..........Clinton +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "stephen galowski" To: "Aussie-Weather" Cc: "ewan mcleoud" Subject: aus-wx: tropical low Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:59:34 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com ok folks seems like a tropical low in qld which has come from nt katherine area Stephen +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:01:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:00 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that >good and is not >worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and >has additives >(MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At >Shell we don't >even allow this stuff. It's horrible. >I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and >prices). Well, my experience agrees with this. the "premium unleaded" from one of the supermarket outlets is nothing, compared to that from the major oil companies. I prefer to use premium unleaded. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 17:36:48 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We dont have the ethanol problem here in the NT - our petrol comes from Singapore and is of a very high quality. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. > At 06:00 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Annecdotal evidence would suggest that "supermarket" petrol is not that > >good and is not > >worthwhile even with the extra discount. This petrol is fully imported and > >has additives > >(MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At > >Shell we don't > >even allow this stuff. It's horrible. > >I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and > >prices). > > Well, my experience agrees with this. the "premium unleaded" from one of > the supermarket outlets is nothing, compared to that from the major oil > companies. I prefer to use premium unleaded. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:16:44 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 1. Fuel injection systems and carburettors are adjusted to meter fuel by weight NOT volume. 2. Ethanol is lighter than petrol (ie, less dense). 3. With any ethanol mixed and petrol, there will be a reduction in the weight (specific gravity, ie, density) of the fuel mixture, so the mixture will tend rich by the same amount, all other things being equal. 4. The density difference with minimal ethanol mixtures, such as 5 percent or 10 percent is however minimal, but see below. 5. The significant difference is the calorific value of ethanol, which is only 68 percent that of your average petrol. 6. What an E10 mix does is it effectively reduces the heat value of the fuel available for producing power. For example, if a heat unit value of 100 percent petrol is 100 (ie 100 x 1) then the heat value of E10 is [(100 x 0.9) + (10 x .68)] = [90 + 6.8] = 96.8 Hence, a reduction of 3.2 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power. 7. Lets say you increased it to E20, then you have [(100 x 0.8) + (20 x 0.68)] = [80 + 13.4] = 93.4 Hence, a reduction of 6.6 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power. 8. Now, returning to the metering by the carby and fuel injector systems. They are different. Carburettors work by metering fuel by "weight" against airflow by "vacuum", NOT weight (mass) of airflow. For example, even with ordinary petrol, if you drive up into the mountains, say the top of the snowy mountains, your car will run slightly rich, because the air density is less for the same vacuum depression developed in the carby throat (venturi). So, the air / fuel ratio (by mass) going into the engine will be less, or put in reverse, the fuel / air ratio (by mass) [the standard terminology] will be greater, ie, richer. Now, with E10, the effect is to reduce the weight of the fuel being metered for any given airflow into the engine. Since the fuel is lighter, MORE will be sucked in for any given vacuum in the venturi, by the ratio of the mass difference. This mass difference is only about 1.5 percent at E10, so you will use 1.5 percent more fuel (in volume, ie litres) to get that 96.8 percent power (from above) plus 1.5 percent of 96.8 percent (ie, 1.452 percent) for the additional fuel used. So, the final result is 96.8 + 1.452 = only 98.252 percent power (ie, a loss of 1.708 percent power), complete with an increase in fuel used of 1.5 percent. 9. Consequently, your car will produce slightly less power, and not go quite as far, on a tank of fuel. 10. Now, the issue is more complicated than just this, because the power band of the engine is slightly changed because combustion efficiency is slightly changed, and hence the ignition timing will not be optimal for the new fuel mix, therefore, further performance loss can be expected, especially at cruise (light throttle). It is likely that to maintain the same 100 kph you will have the foot down just a tad more than before to get the same power you need (after all, rolling resistance and aerodynamic drag have not changed) so the engine will need more of this less thermally efficient fuel/air (P90E10) mix, to develop the same required power. We calculated above we only got 98.252 percent power for 101.5 percent fuel used. Since we need the original 100 percent power to cruise at 100 kph as before, we now need 100/98.252 = 1.0178 times the power produced on this fuel, so open the throttle that little bit more (ie, 1.78 percent). That will use 1.78 percent more of this 1.5 percent volumetrically inefficient fuel, so what you end up with is a fuel use increase of (1.0178 x 1.015) = 1.033, ie an increase of fuel consumption by 3.3 percent. 11. Now, if your fuel costs per litre are 3.3 percent cheaper, you break even, assuming there are no other hidden costs, like maintenance of fuel pumps, replacement of seals more often, etc. As you know, the cost is not so much the cost of the components, but the garage charges for the work, which are astronomical, as we all know. Then there are the added on costs of the inconvenience of extra trips to the garage, the cab fares to and from to drop it off / pick it up, not to mention the inconvenience etc. Then there are the operating problems that may occur, difficulty of cold starts (especially in winter in the mountains if you fill up on the coast) etc. 12. Overall, in my humble opinion, the use of E10 is a bad idea in standard cars. The fact that the petrol stations and oil companies are lying through their teeth, and the governments through their regulators (or lack of) are doing nothing about it, even encouraging it, means the consumer is being screwed yet again. Down the track, we will be forced to do more costly maintenance on our cars, accept reduced reliability, and or eventually update our car to a newer model sooner than we would otherwise have done so, all of which increases the cost of motoring of course. 13. Sorry you asked now Jane ? Some interesting stuff. http://home.austarnet.com.au/davekimble/ethanol.pdf http://www.vattenfall.se/downloads/informationsmaterial/liquid_fuel.pdf Jane ONeill wrote: > > Afternoon all, > > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing. > > Can anyone enlighten me into which companies are using ethanol (I know > Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are > apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol > delivered in from over the border. > > Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland > using it too? > > Thanks for your thoughts, > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:37:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > 13. Sorry you asked now Jane ? No, not at all Peter. I really appreciate the indepth explanation, which I found very easy to understand. I'm also pleased that I'm not 'crazy' as a couple of servo people have intimated when I asked them about E10 & they launched into the 'official' "ethanol will save Australia and doesn't do any damage to engines as has been proven by......" rhetoric!!!! Pity we don't have enough people to create a lobby group with any clout! means that I'm going to have to spend more money to run the car when I'm in NSW, as I'm not prepared to go through that 'running like a pig' experience again...... Thanks to everyone with some input into this - there's great knowledge on this list!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:07:48 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
$1200 TO REPLACE STEM SEALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
what type of engine does your car have?
 
richard
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 5:12:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
David & all,

Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car
is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig.

I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will
be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals &
stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any
servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that
they are using E10.

Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the
valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes
of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay
the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty
which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an
insignificant part of the engine.......

>What I'd like to see is cars designed to run
> 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil
from
> other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers.
Isn't petrol a derivative of oil?

Jane

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Findlay" <david at davsoft.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol


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> On 15:33, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of
wisdom:
> > I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
> > border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much**
worse
> > (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
> > unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
> > petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again.
I've
> > determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
> > couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.
>
> AFAIK the only problems ethanol causes are to the seals and stuff like
that,
> not the actual engine itself. What I'd like to see is cars designed to
run
> 100% ethanol or petrol. It's a much better system than relying on oil
from
> other countries to run cars and would be good for farmers. A really
forward
> thinking governement would legislate that all new cars sold in
australia
> after a couple of years be capable of running 100% ethanol.
>
> David
>
> - --
> If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If
you teach
> them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime.
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP67.gif: 00000001,1db409f3,00000000,00000000 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:45:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What is MTBE? This petrol is fully imported and has additives > (MTBE is one additive) that are banned in various parts of the world. At Shell we don't > even allow this stuff. It's horrible. > I base this on the many discussions I have with people about petrol (and prices). All I can add is that premium is not available here. When I go on a "tour" I get premium if I can and the car certainly improves in power and smoothness. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:50:01 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether Bussy wrote: > > What is MTBE? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 19:48:21 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
origionally posted by david,
Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals
are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose.
--------------------------------------------------
huh??????????????
 
static seals should only need to be replaced when that seal is physically broken.
chemical erosion on seals and gaskets and lines can be a bane, usually causing swelling and softening or less common, shrinking and hardening which is usually caused by time and heat.
fluro-elastomer seals are being used more and more in engines noewdays and are pretty much impermiable to most forms of chemical attack encountered in an engine as well as being far less subject to time and heat.
valve stem seals won't usually give a problem in late model engines regardless of the type of oil used unless the engine's been cooked and then they're the least of your problems.
the commodore RB30E 6cyl nissan motor uses metal cap valve stem seals and should cost $2-300 lab.and $30-40 for the seals to replace, the nissan V6 buick engine uses mono moulded fluro-elastomer seals and will only stuff up through exessive valve guide wear, once again, $2-300lab. and $60-70 for the seals to replace them, holden V8 red, blue and black motor use a square section 'o' ring between the valve stem and cap and will never stuff up unless disturbed. $150-200 lab. and $5 for the seals to replace them. in all cases the heads DO NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED to replace the valve stem seals.
 
a short note to anyone who works on engines, fluro-elastomer compounds when they have exessive heat applied break down in hydroflouric acid if you get this on your skin it is extremely difficult to remove and absorbtion into the body is fatal.
 
regards
richard
 

 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 5:33:50 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
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On 16:36, sabato 11 gennaio 2003, Jane ONeill wrote this piece of wisdom:
> Being totally subjective firstly, the most immediate problem to the car
> is the problem that the driver encounters with a car running like a pig.

Not being a mechanic I don't know exactly what courses this to happen the
first time this type of petrol is used, but I can only speculate that the
computers aren't designed to tune the engine for the slightly different
preformance characteristics of ethanol.

> I'm sure that people who pay $80,000 to buy the car of their dreams will
> be delighted to be told that they may have a problem with their seals &
> stuff because of the fuel that they use..... and I have yet to see any
> servo that advertises in anything other than the *tiniest* writing that
> they are using E10.

Actually one we used a week ago on the Pacific highway did say that it used
10% ethanol. Can't remember where though. Others advertised 0%.

> Btw, which seals does it cause a problem with? Having replaced the
> valve stem seals in the Commodore (which seems to be tied into changes
> of oil used in this particular model - Holden were kind enough to pay
> the $1,200 it would have cost even though it was well out of warranty
> which I thought was interesting), 'seals and stuff' are not an
> insignificant part of the engine.......

Dunno. I think it the gaskets and fuel lines, injector lines etc. The seals
are consumables, thus not a part of the engines I suppose.

> Isn't petrol a derivative of oil?

Yes but it can also be synthesized chemically from other hydrocarbons. In any
case I'm not saying that we should be using ethanol in current vehicles, only
that vehicles that can use it should be developed. Thanks,

David

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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP68.gif: 00000001,3e0999fd,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 21:58:02 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 07:45 PM 11/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >All I can add is that premium is not available here. When I go on a "tour" I >get premium if I can and the car certainly improves in power and smoothness. There's definitely an improvement with premium, and also, premium is not always premium. I prefer to stick with the big name brands, they've proven to be good in actual performance. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:04:24 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
thats why i like diesel peter, more bang for your buck, not only that, i mix it with filtered waste cooking oil at about 3:1, one being diesel, cheap running and the tasty smell of a fish and chip shop as a bonus.
 
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Date: Saturday, 11 January 2003 6:52:59 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Ethanol in petrol
 
1. Fuel injection systems and carburettors are adjusted to meter fuel by
weight NOT volume.
2. Ethanol is lighter than petrol (ie, less dense).
3. With any ethanol mixed and petrol, there will be a reduction in the
weight (specific gravity, ie, density) of the fuel mixture, so the
mixture will tend rich by the same amount, all other things being equal.
4. The density difference with minimal ethanol mixtures, such as 5
percent or 10 percent is however minimal, but see below.
5. The significant difference is the calorific value of ethanol, which
is only 68 percent that of your average petrol.
6. What an E10 mix does is it effectively reduces the heat value of the
fuel available for producing power. For example, if a heat unit value
of 100 percent petrol is 100 (ie 100 x 1) then the heat value of E10 is
[(100 x 0.9) + (10 x .68)] = [90 + 6.8] = 96.8 Hence, a reduction of
3.2 percent of available heat energy for conversion into power.
7. Lets say you increased it to E20, then you have [(100 x 0.8) + (20 x
0.68)] = [80 + 13.4] = 93.4 Hence, a reduction of 6.6 percent of
available heat energy for conversion into power.
8. Now, returning to the metering by the carby and fuel injector
systems. They are different. Carburettors work by metering fuel by
"weight" against airflow by "vacuum", NOT weight (mass) of airflow. For
example, even with ordinary petrol, if you drive up into the mountains,
say the top of the snowy mountains, your car will run slightly rich,
because the air density is less for the same vacuum depression developed
in the carby throat (venturi). So, the air / fuel ratio (by mass) going
into the engine will be less, or put in reverse, the fuel / air ratio
(by mass) [the standard terminology] will be greater, ie, richer. Now,
with E10, the effect is to reduce the weight of the fuel being metered
for any given airflow into the engine. Since the fuel is lighter, MORE
will be sucked in for any given vacuum iRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems n the venturi, by the ratio of
the mass difference. This mass difference is only about 1.5 percent at
E10, so you will use 1.5 percent more fuel (in volume, ie litres) to get
that 96.8 percent power (from above) plus 1.5 percent of 96.8 percent
(ie, 1.452 percent) for the additional fuel used. So, the final result
is 96.8 + 1.452 = only 98.252 percent power (ie, a loss of 1.708 percent
power), complete with an increase in fuel used of 1.5 percent.
9. Consequently, your car will produce slightly less power, and not go
quite as far, on a tank of fuel.
10. Now, the issue is more complicated than just this, because the power
band of the engine is slightly changed because combustion efficiency is
slightly changed, and hence the ignition timing will not be optimal for
the new fuel mix, therefore, further performance loss can be expected,
especially at cruise (light throttle). It is likely that to maintain
the same 100 kph you will have the foot down just a tad more than before
to get the same power you need (after all, rolling resistance and
aerodynamic drag have not changed) so the engine will need more of this
less thermally efficient fuel/air (P90E10) mix, to develop the same
required power. We calculated above we only got 98.252 percent power
for 101.5 percent fuel used. Since we need the original 100 percent
power to cruise at 100 kph as before, we now need 100/98.252 = 1.0178
times the power produced on this fuel, so open the throttle that little
bit more (ie, 1.78 percent). That will use 1.78 percent more of this
1.5 percent volumetrically inefficient fuel, so what you end up with is
a fuel use increase of (1.0178 x 1.015) = 1.033, ie an increase of fuel
consumption by 3.3 percent.
11. Now, if your fuel costs per litre are 3.3 percent cheaper, you break
even, assuming there are no other hidden costs, like maintenance of fuel
pumps, replacement of seals more often, etc. As you know, the cost is
not so much the cost of the compoRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems nents, but the garage charges for the
work, which are astronomical, as we all know. Then there are the added
on costs of the inconvenience of extra trips to the garage, the cab
fares to and from to drop it off / pick it up, not to mention the
inconvenience etc. Then there are the operating problems that may
occur, difficulty of cold starts (especially in winter in the mountains
if you fill up on the coast) etc.
12. Overall, in my humble opinion, the use of E10 is a bad idea in
standard cars. The fact that the petrol stations and oil companies are
lying through their teeth, and the governments through their regulators
(or lack of) are doing nothing about it, even encouraging it, means the
consumer is being screwed yet again. Down the track, we will be forced
to do more costly maintenance on our cars, accept reduced reliability,
and or eventually update our car to a newer model sooner than we would
otherwise have done so, all of which increases the cost of motoring of
course.
13. Sorry you asked now Jane ?

Some interesting stuff.
http://home.austarnet.com.au/davekimble/ethanol.pdf
http://www.vattenfall.se/downloads/informationsmaterial/liquid_fuel.pdf


Jane ONeill wrote:
>
> Afternoon all,
>
> I've noticed during various forays north into NSW from south of the
> border over the past few months that the car seems to run **much** worse
> (and sometimes can be impossible to start) after I've filled up with
> unleaded at various servos, when I put Optimax or the like in or get
> petrol in Victoria and run half a tank through, it improves again. I've
> determined that it's not the car, but is connected with the fuel. A
> couple of people at work have noticed exactly the same thing.
>
> Can anyone enlighten me into which companiRe aus-wx Ethanol in petrol.ems es are using ethanol (I know
> Shell isn't)? The only servos that seem to use ethanol in Vic are
> apparently Safeway and some of the independents who have their petrol
> delivered in from over the border.
>
> Do they use ethanol in anything except unleaded in NSW? Is Queensland
> using it too?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
>
> Jane
>
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP69.gif: 00000001,3ac2ff99,00000000,00000000 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 22:40:20 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aus-wx Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Everyone, I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real thing! -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 23:55:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com More absolutely stunning photos...that had to be a night in a million!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think I've ever seen anything quite as amazing as all of the photos that were taken of this night by all the photographers!!!!!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report > Hi Everyone, > > I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > > It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken > a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was > the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > > Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real > thing! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.153.116] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:40:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2003 21:40:33.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[11F9BBB0:01C2B9BA] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Top work Anthony!!!! I think you have taken some brilliant CGs there and Jason's digi pics are also increadible - they look so close up with the lightning!! Also, the later photos light up the storm sturcture so well! Fantastic work. I must say it is pretty cool to be able to recognise inidividual CGs in different people's photos!! When I was reading your report I thought, 'hey I recognise that CG'! Very cool! BTW a full report is up now at ASW: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200301-01.htm if you're interested in times and exposure details of the photos go to this report: http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-01-01.htm and scroll the mouse over the images for details. Also, some of MB's lightning work got into the paper yesterday and can be seen here: http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/media/20030111nstar-p4.jpg Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Cornelius" To: "Aus-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report > Hi Everyone, > > I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > > It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken > a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was > the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > > Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real > thing! > -- > Anthony Cornelius > Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the > Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) > (07) 3390 4812 > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:52:48 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Anthony, Excellent photographs of the lightning display. You can see the nice dry air and what it can achieve in terms of crisp lightning. Together with the detached shelf cloud, it forms a magnificent display. Jimmy Deguaar At 10:40 PM 11/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 08:43:19 +1000 From: Anthony Cornelius X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Discussions on inflow vs roll cloud/shelf cloud features Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jimmy, Some interesting thoughts. When I first saw this feature, I initially thought it was a roll cloud. However it became attached to the storm eg: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/080103/08-01-03-28.jpg And eventually became flowing into the main updraft, keep in mind that there is a storm to the left of the photo (the main one), and another storm developed behind it (which is where the lightning is coming from). My thoughts are this initially developed as a roll cloud from the storm behind the larger storm. However as the main storm dominated, it began to draw in the moist outflow air from the weaker storm, developing an inflow band! I have seen this happen before, normally the storm weakens soon after it does this (and it did), simply because it's not the 'ideal' air for the storm to take in. There's also been some discussion on what direction the inflow should be coming into, well the inflow band was aligned NW to SE, but most inflow bands I've seen, the air at the surface doesn't always run parallel to. In fact, some of the better inflow bands I've seen, the air is running orthogonal to at the surface! For example: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/091002/pan3.JPG and http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/091002/pan1.jpg (Chase report for the Oct 9, 2002 supercell: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/09_10_02ac.html ) The inflow band is off to the NW, but the winds are from the NE here. Another example: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/00-01/031100/ac_13.jpg (Chase report for the Nov 4, 2000 supercell: http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/00-01/03_11_00ac.html ) Here the storm is looking to the W, the winds are coming in from the N, but the inflow band extends off to the SE! (On the left), while the outflow region is on the NE side. Sometimes I feel with larger storms, the inflow band develops where it wants to, rather than where it should! December 4 supercell from 2002 last year was another example where the inflow band ran orthogonal to the NE inflow, but I don't have captures uploaded of that yet...just this one: http://www.downunderchase.com/temp/KS1098.jpg You can see the flat stretched outright flowing into the storm, but to the right of this image was a nice inflow band running through from the NW. AC Jimmy Deguara wrote: > > Hi all, > > Sorry the previous one was sent accidently I had not finished... > > At the moment I am trying to work out whether the pics of the NE NSW storms > are indicating inflow band or shelf cloud/roll cloud features. My > definition and research into inflow bands are that inflow bands are usually > extended in front of the storms and channel between the inflow and the > pseudo front operating from the storm itself. Note that inflow bands have > flow into the storm almost parallel to the inflow band > > Coffs Harbour inflow band had NE inflow and the inflow band extending to > the NE from the storms mesocyclone. Thsi is usually a sign of significant > rotation and that the storm is ready to drop a tornado. Which it did a > short time after - well let's say a tornadic funnel. > > Roll clouds normally have winds flowing over and usually perpendicular to > the roll cloud and interacting with outflow. This si what I believe was > happening in the NE NSW storms. > > After checking the direction of the storms - NE and the direction looking > at the storm - SE, it seems we are looking almost through the back of the > storm. The precipitation is on the southern side generally. What I have > noticed of storms in recent years of chasers that when storms approach the > ocean, their flows which are normally invisible become visible - well where > they intersect. > > This is the feature being referred to in the NE NSW storms > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb16.jpg > first signs of development > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb22.jpg > > http://australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0108mb26.jpg > this is probably a better example of the feature meeting the updraught > further in > > These storms were apparently over the ocean when the features were > observed. What I am suggesting is, were these features similar to the > following types of features: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd36.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1003jd40.jpg > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_01_v.jpg > note the inflow (although we cannot tell what that is from this angle) is > above and the roll cloud is below. > > http://www.thunderbolttours.com/tour_images/thunderboltstills/221102_02_v.jpg > > Not a good example but still showing features of flow interacting with the > moist air over the ocean: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2001/1124jd05.jpg > > A better example: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0208am01.jpg > remember this looking from a different angle with respect to the storm and > the guys would have been closer to the feature and looking towards the rain > area. Also this is slightly > > ok just recalled US examples from last year: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd04.jpg > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0604jd03.jpg > > now the following is interesting > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2002/0527jd01.jpg > > there is inflow on the left hand side which extended a long way out of the > storm beyond what this photo suggested but on the right is a detached roll > cloud. > > Anyway, some thoughts on this spectacular event in NE NSW - good to see > some action up there. > > Any other thoughts from others? > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- Anthony Cornelius Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) (07) 3390 4812 http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:03:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) Would someone like to give it its correct name please? http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 10:01:52 +1030 From: Richard Albury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anthony Cornelius wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! > > Hi Anthony Great pics mate. Well done !! As you said being there is most the experience;pity this site wasn't going in 1969 when I lived in Parap (Darwin), however neither was the Internet then either. The lighting there can get spectacular there this time of year. 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Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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that will be because of the tropical low in the gulf now bussy
I am watching it
stephen
Wicen brisbane
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Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
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Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol

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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Big rain

Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:48:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As I noted elsewhere, that is highly dodgy! The Point Stuart AWS regularly reports rather 'dubious' obs, -37 degrees was reported the other day as an example. 989mm would break the NT 24 rainfall record by several hundred millimetres (thanks to Paul Mossman for that info). However, if you take a look at Mornington Island for the past few days, you might be impressed... Craig Arthur -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2003 11:41 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=94127&name=Point _Stuart&type=synop Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: Bussy To: aussie-weather Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: aus-wx: Big rain Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!! http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/weather/ Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:49:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Most likely 98.9mm as rain had been falling for a few hours, just no totals except for 83mm when the last shower cleared... also the hay a max temp of -50.5 at 6:30pm yesterday...

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Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain

Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol

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From: Bussy
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Big rain

Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!!
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 12:12:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There was a similar 'blip' the other week in Queensland. An automatic station (forget where) had 840 mm whereas there was no rain anywhere nearby. We might be impressed again if that low moves down over eastern Qld and it interacts with Bellenden Ker (as well as other places of course).... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Arthur" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Big rain > As I noted elsewhere, that is highly dodgy! The Point Stuart AWS regularly > reports rather 'dubious' obs, -37 degrees was reported the other day as an > example. 989mm would break the NT 24 rainfall record by several hundred > millimetres (thanks to Paul Mossman for that info). > > However, if you take a look at Mornington Island for the past few days, you > might be impressed... > > Craig Arthur > > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Simon Angell > Sent: Sunday, 12 January 2003 11:41 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Big rain > > > Unless it fell between 7:30am and 8:30 this morning, somthing is wrong, lol > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/observations/history.jsp?wmo=94127&name=Point > _Stuart&type=synop > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bussy > To: aussie-weather > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:27 AM > Subject: aus-wx: Big rain > > > Point Stuart NT had 989 mm yesterday. Hell that's a lot of rain!!! > http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/weather/ > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:13:48 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > a very fiery red. > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:28:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We can't see Ballarat, which is about 2.5 klms away. The haze and smoke has been getting steadily worse all day. Now we can smell the smoke. So what is a 'sunrise'? I just thought the sun was already up in the morning... Robyn Ballarat Vic > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > > a very fiery red. > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > Blair > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: mbath at mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:29:03 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Michael Bath Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, It appears that a congesting cumulus has pushed a little higher after encountering an inversion in the mid levels, or am I way off in the height of this ? Shear looks very weak. The "anvil" level only appears to be about 4-5ks above the surface - do you agree ? cheers, Michael At 10:03 AM 12/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Morning all, > >Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have >added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as >well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. >http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. > >Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in >this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) >Would someone like to give it its correct name please? >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg > > >Cheers, > >Jane >-------------------------------- >Jane ONeill - Melbourne >cadence at australianskynweather.com > >Australian Sky & Weather >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > >***The journey is the reward*** >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ =================================================================== Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ =================================================================== From: "Paul Mossman" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 15:11:58 +0930 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Either that or a TCu has hit an inversion and spread out, with stronger convection starting to push through the inversion (the overshooting "top"). Great pic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bath" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:59 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather site update > Hi Jane, > > It appears that a congesting cumulus has pushed a little higher after > encountering an inversion in the mid levels, or am I way off in the height > of this ? Shear looks very weak. The "anvil" level only appears to be > about 4-5ks above the surface - do you agree ? > > cheers, Michael > > > > > At 10:03 AM 12/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Morning all, > > > >Have finally got around to doing a bit of updating to the site - have > >added images of the October duststorm and December Bass Strait eddy as > >well as some more images to the Spring and Summer photography pages. > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com More to come in the next week. > > > >Weather watchers outside the southern states may be rather interested in > >this captured over Melbourne in spring (with overshoot? you will note) > >Would someone like to give it its correct name please? > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Sept02/cbovermel.jpg > > > > > >Cheers, > > > >Jane > >-------------------------------- > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne > >cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > >Australian Sky & Weather > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > >***The journey is the reward*** > >-------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > =================================================================== > Michael Bath mailto:mbath at ozemail.com.au > McLeans Ridges co-webmaster: http://australiasevereweather.com/ > North Coast NSW webmaster: http://lightningphotography.com/ > Australia ASWA: http://www.severeweather.asn.au/ > =================================================================== > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:30:45 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning = > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although = > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was = > > a very fiery red. > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:32:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I always wondered where the sun went at night time so I sat up all night and it finally dawned on me. Groan. Sorry couldn't help myself. :-) > We can't see Ballarat, which is about 2.5 klms away. The haze and smoke has > been getting steadily worse all day. Now we can smell the smoke. So what is > a 'sunrise'? I just thought the sun was already up in the morning... > > Robyn Ballarat Vic +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:58:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our time will come. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blair Trewin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this morning > = > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. Although > = > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it was > = > > > a very fiery red. > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > Blair > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:20:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our time > will come. > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bussy" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > probably. > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > morning > > = > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > Although > > = > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > was > > = > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:29:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > time > > will come. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussy" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > probably. > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > morning > > > = > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > Although > > > = > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > > was > > > = > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:31:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Oh and also... Nice pics!!! they were putting off some nice PyroCU this afternoon, went on the roof to get pics, but camera had died :( Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but not > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't realise > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > Patrick > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > time > > will come. > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bussy" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > probably. > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > morning > > > = > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > Although > > > = > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but it > > was > > > = > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 23:19:44 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:30 PM 12/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre probably. >Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at Corryong. Light smoke over Melbourne. Much cleaner on the coast at Torquay though. The sea breeze kept things cleaner. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:31:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I just re-did the modis image, from the start it didn't quite match up with my obs, realised that i had cut it off a litte to far to the south, so re-sampled it just now, and added a few labels for reference www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg (123kb) and also a larger file www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis-lrg.jpg (370kb) Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patrick Tobin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > not > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > realise > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine tundra. > > > > Patrick > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Angell" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but our > > time > > > will come. > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Bussy" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > probably. > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > Corryong. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > morning > > > > = > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > Although > > > > = > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > it > > > was > > > > = > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 01:05:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com SORRY IF THIS COMES THROUGH TWICE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:38 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Just a quick note, the compression factor was set rather high and the text > lost clarity, so again re-sampled them, fires-modis.jpg is now 180kb and > fires-modis-lrg.jpg is 500kb > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patrick Tobin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > > not > > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > > realise > > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine > tundra. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Simon Angell" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but > our > > > time > > > > will come. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Simon Angell > > > > Canberra, ACT > > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Proud member of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bussy" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > > probably. > > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > > Corryong. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > > morning > > > > > = > > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > > Although > > > > > = > > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > > it > > > > was > > > > > = > > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 00:44:29 +1000 From: 440077 at austarnet.com.au Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? Cheers.Weathernut. ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:09:54 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. Parts of my new web site are just about finished..I still have to do a lot of work on my links,forecast and storm reports pages..I hope you enjoy.. Cheers.Weathernut PS.My first posted worked.... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:20:47 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. It would of helped if i sent the address in my email...*Looks Embarrassed*...I try again. Here is the link. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:00:40 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com about 7pm the sun whent to a dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing damage to your eyes... Oops, hang on mate!!! Looking directly at the Sun without proper eye protection, even if the Sun is partially covered by clouds, dust or even at Sunset, you run the *risk* of permanent eye damage to your retina. Your eyes act as a lenes focusing light on your retina & if you've seen what focused light from a lenes on a piece of paper can do... You've only got one set of eyes... remember that! :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:14 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Hi. > The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in > but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a > dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing > damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i > didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed > up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? > Cheers.Weathernut. > > ------------------------------- > Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW > Web site. > http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html > ------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 02:01:56 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What's the link? Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Weathernut" <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:39 AM Subject: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. > Hi. > Parts of my new web site are just about finished..I still have to > do a lot of work on my links,forecast and storm reports pages..I > hope you enjoy.. > Cheers.Weathernut > > PS.My first posted worked.... > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:16:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:17:39 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just their last *hour* of rain would be nice :)))
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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 From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 04:58:41 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Also there is an interesting feature on the Darwin AP radar, bow echo perhaps? doesn't show to well on Berrimah radar.
 

Cheers
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Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just their last *hour* of rain would be nice :)))
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight.

Hi all.
For the second night in a row, Darwin has copped a beating.
Obs from the past hour...
 
Date and Time Temp (C) DewP (C) RH (%) Rain >9AM (mm) Difference
13/01/2003 1:00 24.1 23.5 96 28.4
13/01/2003 1:15 24 23.9 99 50.8 22.4
13/01/2003 1:30 23.9 23.8 99 86 57.6
13/01/2003 1:43 24.1 24 99 101.8 73.4
13/01/2003 2:00 24.1 24 99 121.4 93
 
93mm in 1 hour...impressive!!!!!
I would love to have been there, especially with the lightning activity.
 

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
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 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 07:55:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very deep red. Visibility approx 1km. Much better this morning though. ----- Original Message ----- From: <440077 at austarnet.com.au> To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > Hi. > The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in > but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a > dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing > damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i > didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed > up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? > Cheers.Weathernut. > > ------------------------------- > Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW > Web site. > http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html > ------------------------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:17:47 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Simon - the images provide a good perspective re Canberra. This morning's news reports suggest the Brindabella fires have spread somewhat since the time of the picture yesterday. It will be interesting to build up a time series progression over the next few days. Also of interest is the slightly different direction of the smoke plumes. The plumes from the higher altitude fires near the Main Range (and in Vic) seemed to be drifting in a more northerly direction in contrast to the plumes from the lower level fires which were moving more directly to the west (meaning the Wagga area probably got a double dose of smoke cominging from both the east and south (albeit at different levels) at the same time. The smoke drift is consistent with the wind directions shown in yesterday's Wagga sounding. There is some hope of some precipitation later in the week over the alpine regions. Hopefully this results in some rain rather than more dry storms - and enough rain to make some difference rather than just inhibit back burning operations. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:31 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > I just re-did the modis image, from the start it didn't quite match up with > my obs, realised that i had cut it off a litte to far to the south, so > re-sampled it just now, and added a few labels for reference > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg (123kb) > > and also a larger file > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis-lrg.jpg (370kb) > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > No problem re: the image, was going to send it here alos, but forgot... > > > > www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires-modis.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Patrick Tobin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 10:20 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > I've put up a couple of photos of the view of the smoke plumes from > > > Canberra's Mt Ainslie this afternoon. > > > > > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ > > > > > > You can see how lucky Canberra was today - just upwind of the smoke but > > not > > > in it. Tuesday will very likely be a different story. > > > > > > Simon - that for putting up your cropped sat image on Weatherzone ( > > > > > > http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=10;t=00 > > > 0432;p=3 )- it shows the extent of the smoke very clearly. I didn't > > realise > > > that the fires were burning so close to the Main Range around Mt > > > Kosciuszko - hope they can keep the fires off the sensitive alpine > tundra. > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Simon Angell" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > Im very glad we have Easterlies today...no smoke here thankgod, but > our > > > time > > > > will come. > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Simon Angell > > > > Canberra, ACT > > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > Proud member of the > > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bussy" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same today. Thick smoke. Visibility at times would be a kilometre > > > > probably. > > > > > Just the smell is bad enough. Imagine what it must be like at > > Corryong. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Blair Trewin" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:13 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C2B950.787A5300 > > > > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > > > > > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know what it's like anywhere else but the sky here this > > > > morning > > > > > = > > > > > > > is filled with smoke from the fires in the ranges I'd imagine. > > > > Although > > > > > = > > > > > > > we did have a magnificent sunrise through it. Pardon the pun but > > it > > > > was > > > > > = > > > > > > > a very fiery red. > > > > > > > Not a good day for asthma sufferers I'd say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definite smell of smoke in the air in Melbourne today, although > > > > > > visibility is not too badly affected (yet) - probably about 30km. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > > your > > > > > > message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 10:45:54 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: My web site is now up and running. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry about that i forgot to put the link in. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html I hope you like it... Cheers.Weathernut. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 15:45:56 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. here are 2 pic`s that i took yesterday at 6.00pm. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/mysunpic.jpg (25KB) http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/mysunpic1.jpg (29KB) This pic`s that were in todays Wagga Wagga Paper. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/sun.jpg (Warning 621KB) http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er/sun1.jpg (142KB) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:15:38 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Awful sky Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:44 AM 13/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi. >The day started off sunny then about 1pm the smoke came in >but it was only high smoke but about 7pm the sun whent to a >dark red and you could look at it without hurting or doing >damage to your eyes...I got pic`s (I hope they come out) i >didn`t get the dark red sun at it`s best as my camera jammed >up...Did anyone around were the fires are get a red sun??? Red sun over Melbourne this morning around 7AM, but I didn't have the camera on me. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:16:56 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heavy storms in Darwin overnight. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 04:17 AM 13/01/2003 +1030, you wrote: >We could sure do with some of that wet stuff down south here... even just >their last *hour* of rain would be nice :))) What's rain? :-) All we get here these days is fine grained mud (sick of washing the car)... :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: nzts.nz at pop3.caverock.net.nz X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:52:12 +1300 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: John Gaul Subject: Re: aus-wx: January 8 Electrical Storm Chase Report Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 22:40 11/01/03 +1000, you wrote: >Hi Everyone, > >I've uploaded a chase report with a heap of lightning photos up at: > >http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/08_01_03ac.html > >It was my first real go at lightning photography (although I have taken >a handful in the past, I had never tried overly hard at it). This was >the most spectacular lightning display I had ever seen before! > >Hope you enjoy it...although the experience of being there was the real >thing! >-- >Anthony Cornelius >Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the >Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA) >(07) 3390 4812 >http://www.severeweather.asn.au Just checked your lightning shots, Anthony. some great shots. Wish we could get some nice night shots of lightning like that over here in NZ. JohnGaul NZTS +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:01:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have put some new images up of the view of the fires from Canberra today 13 Jan. http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ A helicopter pilot is currently in a critical condition in Canberra hospital after his helicopter crashed into the waters of Bendora Dam. He was rescued from the lake by, among others, the ACT Chief Minister who was in another nearby helicopter at the same time. We wish the pilot a successful and speedy recovery. Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 21:34:52 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great photo`s...The fire is a lot bigger then i thought...I hope the helicopter pilot get will soon... Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: "Burnoff devil' Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:05:40 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, another (thumbnailed) image of the 'burnoff devil' very kindly sent to me by Shawn Smits - Melton Express Telegraph http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/rockbank5t.jpg More images on their way with Shawn's observations and a few more as well. Should have a report up this week. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:29:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:21:14 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT/NSW Fires Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:25:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, I have put up today's pictures of smoke in Canberra - altogether much more gloomy than previous days.... Oh well I guess it is just like it is in Beijing, Moscow, Delhi, New York or large parts of the Northern Hemisphere most of the time!! http://members.ozemail.com.au/~patricktobin/wx/ Patrick - looking forward very much to the easterly change (ie a very weakened version of yesterday's front that went through Victoria) expected in the next couple of hours. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.109.174.133] From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:20 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 10:15:59.0869 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF5672D0:01C2BBB5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm regards, John +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.134.119.176] From: "Brendon Simmons" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:57:03 +1030 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2003 10:27:03.0246 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ABDBEE0:01C2BBB7] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, The pics are great...some interesting cloud features there too. Brendon >From: "John Roenfeldt" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:15:20 +0800 > >Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > >http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > >regards, > >John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:37:29 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John, Wow!!! There is no doubt that you have attracted my attention because of the beautiful crispness of the pyrocumulus. Lovely pileus too. Must be some strong fires to maintain such powerful updraughts. Great pics. Jimmy Deguara At 06:15 PM 14/1/2003 +0800, you wrote: >Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > >http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > >regards, > >John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:56:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great photos John - it looks like a volcano erupting!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:48:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well the same could be said for a Tornado? They give these things a plug on the radio etc with the comments "Record Winds" and yet they only last 30 seconds or so. I can remember as a kid mum running in the back door and shutting all the windows etc followed by the uprooting of tin and tile roofs that then flew over our backyard. I thought it was great. 30 seconds later and it was gone...
 
 
Just my 2 cents worth......
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Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2003 7:29 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

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Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Mark Dwyer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:22:35 +0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi jr, Yep it was a good one alright, And the Fire was started from a Lightning strike from a Storm that passed over the area the night before. The fire it's self was located near the small town of North Bannister which is SE of Perth. On the Albany Hwy, just over 60 Km from Armadale, or close to 85 Km from Perth. The Pileus was pretty good at times, the fire did burn out a large area of state forest and the Bibbulmin track. MJ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: simon at fearby.com To: Subject: aus-wx: To the Kiwi's (NASA High resolution Satellite Photo of New Zealand 23rd Oct 2002) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:54:00 Pacific Standard Time X-Originating-Ip: [153.107.47.83] X-Mailer: NOCC v0.9.5 X-AntiSpam: Checked for restricted content by Gordano's AntiSpam Software Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com To the Kiwi's Here is a High Resolution NASA Satellite photo of New Zealand taken on the 23rd October 2002. Main: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=10881 High Res JPG of New Zealand: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/NewZealand_TMO2002296_lrg.jpg I went to New Zealand on the 28th of October just after a storm system swept the south island. There were tornado's in Christchurch. Does anyone have archived NZ weather reports or maps from the 23rd of October 2002 to the 19th of November 2002? I took photos of storm cells that were heading towards NZ on the 28/Oct/2002 from the plane at 40,000ft and I am guessing the high res photo above was the start of this system. Simon Last one to the pub is a MCSE professional! -- My 3D FishTank Simulator / Screen Saver ----------------- ( DirectX 8.1 ) ----- Main: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/default.shtml Screenshots: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/screenshots.shtml Download: http://www.fearby.com/products/3dfishtank/evaluation.shtml ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:01:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yeah, a dust devil. We had to go all over the neighbourhood to get the washing back :-))
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: dencot1 at aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:08:23 EST Subject: aus-wx: How to switch addresses To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows AU sub 10501 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have just been connected to a new internet provider and I need to change my email address on this list. Can anyone suggest how I should do this?
 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:08:30 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

An Update on the situation at Mt. Hotham from Kieth Boxer of MHRMB

 

Hi All,

 

The fire situation at Hotham has not changed greatly in the last couple of days as the wind has been moderate and the temperatures not excessive. 

 

The major fire close to us is the Feathertop fire which started in the West Kiewa. It has now burnt through an arc from Diamantina Spur around the northern slopes of Mt. Feathertop and over the northwest spur. The MUMC hut has been damaged but not destroyed by the fire. The fire is now approaching the Ovens Valley from the Stony Tops track area.

 

Although the Feathertop fire in the West Kiewa is still some distance from Hotham it is being monitored closely and equipment is being deployed in case the wind pushes it in our direction. Visibility is down to about 1km again today. Interestingly we have smoke coming in from the north and fog from the south!

 

NRE have a bull dozer on standby at Loch, this will be used to cut control lines if the need arises. There are 5 CFA tankers stationed at Hotham, another 5 stationed at Dinner Plain and 5 tankers in Omeo for back up if needed, plus the 3 Hotham/Dinner plain tankers.  

 

RMB staff have been through the village and cleared significant amounts of combustible material from around buildings with the aim of reducing the risk of ember attach if a fire approaches.

 

I will update you again in a couple of days or if the situation changes dramatically.

 

Regards
Keith G. Boxer
Property Manager
Mt. Hotham Resort Management
Ph     03 5759 3550
FAX  03 5759 3693
Mob  **************

 

 

James Holbeach

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Dept. Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering

University of Melbourne, Australia

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Tobin
Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 9:39 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

 

Thanks Simon,

 

I have put up a couple of images of the same fires seen from a bit further away - it was quite impressive...although I'd rather see some storms with rain/hail!!

 

 

 

 

Patrick

----- Original Message -----

From: Simon Angell

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:18 PM

Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires

 

Fires Currently going to the W and SW of Canberra, In the Brindabella Mts and Namadgi NP... pic from about hour ago.

 


Cheers
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Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
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----- Original Message -----

From: Bussy

Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:52 PM

Subject: aus-wx: Fires

 

Lots of fires in the NE region today from this mornings storms and strikes. None here and no rain either :-(

 

Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Nathan Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:10:28 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Oh okay, I got it this time. Thats pretty cool to see dust devil. Hehehe.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yeah, a dust devil. We had to go all over the neighbourhood to get the washing back :-))
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi Bussy,
 
I meant did you talk about dust devil past your area? I have been thinking whirlwind according to dust devil.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Hi,
 
I don't know. I am not sure what is the rules for the wind gust record being made by the WMO. I think you should report as whirlwind sent 67.7kph whirlwind gust over your place instead of normal wind gust condition. I wouldn't accept the gust but will see what Bureau of Meteorology says if you email to them to suggest if it is acceptable to record it or not.
 
From Nathan.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Wind gust question

Yesterday after wind speeds around 20 kmh a whirlwind came through and over my house and of course sent the anemometer spastic at 67.7 kmh. Should this be registered as a top/normal gust or discarded?
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:37:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Great photos John - it looks like a volcano erupting!!! > Once when I worked in Rockhampton, we had some new guys arrive from Sydney. One day there was a bushfire up on Mt Etna and smoke was billowing from the top. I shook my head and said; "Looks like the volcanoe's going to erupt again..." They all ran and got their cameras to photgraph it! Robyn +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:36:23 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What an amazing series of photos. I love the 'nuke' appearance to one of the updrafts in this photo http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/10012003-13.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Roenfeldt" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth > Here are some pics from the bushfire on Friday SE of Perth. > > http://www.inflowimages.com/chasereports/10012003/pyro.htm > > regards, > > John > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:48:12 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: 10/01/03 - Pyro-cumulus Pics Perth Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Anyone know how to calculate the vertical velocity of the hot air from the fire ? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: "Weather" Subject: aus-wx: BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE (OFF TOPIC) Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:54:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thought this may be of interest to the group. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE > > > Minister for Defence Media Mail List > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Wednesday, January 15 2003 06/2003 > > BUSHFIRE HOT SPOTS ONLINE > > Australian scientists have joined forces with Defence, CSIRO and Geoscience Australia to develop an online bushfire map that will help firefighters better detect and monitor blazes that threaten lives and property this bushfire season. > > The Sentinel Hotspots system was launched today. 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Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News problem Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:49:54 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm shifting host servers for Australian Weather News, and there is a problem with the new server. Until it's resolved, you can access the old server, which is still being updated with realtime data, charts, etc., at http://66.186.211.80/. Hopefully, we'll have the problem fixed soon. Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:14:59 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com My host server is upgrading servers. Unfortunately, both old and new servers have gone down. My hosting service is in the US of A, and at present I can get no information by phone or email from their helpdesk. I'll post more to this thread when I know more. If the new server gets going, http://australianweathernews.com will work, as the name has been delegated. If the old server gets going, http://66.186.211.80 will work. The ftp is working, so everything on the site is updating just fine; you just can't get at it with a web browser! Grrrrr A disgruntled Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:36:05 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier.. Don`t worry im having problems with my site too..My web poll on my site has gone some were.I lost links and pic`s.so i have uploaded my back up which still hasn`t fixed up the problem... Does anyone know were i can get free HTML poll codes??? Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:22:07 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sounds typical of moving a domain from one server to another. Register the new DNS and as the DNS gets updated around the world some have the old table and some have the new and they kind of fight each other. It usually all sorts itself out over around 24 hours. I've seen it happen plenty of times over the years. Expect no problems at all by this time tomorrow. Both are unreachable from Hong Kong at present. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:14:59 -0000 Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > My host server is upgrading servers. Unfortunately, both old and new > servers > have gone down. My hosting service is in the US of A, and at present I > can > get no information by phone or email from their helpdesk. I'll post > more to > this thread when I know more. If the new server gets going, > http://australianweathernews.com will work, as the name has been > delegated. > If the old server gets going, http://66.186.211.80 will work. The ftp > is > working, so everything on the site is updating just fine; you just > can't get > at it with a web browser! > > Grrrrr > > A disgruntled Laurier > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:25:02 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It bit of a pain, but we have to live with it I suppose whilst all the DNS servers update their databases. In my ISP's case, it seems to have reversed the update. The old address worked, then the new one, then the old one, now the new one again. In DA's automatic retreive file function I have created duplicate addresses. Just got this morning's data, and the old address isn't working, but the new one is. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 22:56:38 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It's a bit more than just the delegation of the new IP address across nameservers. The site is set up at both old and new IP addresses, so it shouldn't matter which address your nameserver points you to. The new IP address has already been delegated (I initiated it about 60 hours ago). The problem is that the new computer servers are not accepting web traffic, so if you go to http://www.australianweathernews.com at present, you get an error message. The old IP address (http://66.186.211.80/) is working again this morning, but it was down late last night. I'm interested to hear your experience, Peter, but right now I don't know what's going on as I can't access my hosts helpdesks, either by phone or web. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Creswick > Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2003 21:25 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > > > It bit of a pain, but we have to live with it I suppose whilst all the > DNS servers update their databases. > In my ISP's case, it seems to have reversed the update. The old address > worked, then the new one, then the old one, now the new one again. > In DA's automatic retreive file function I have created duplicate > addresses. > Just got this morning's data, and the old address isn't working, but > the new one is. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:21:36 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Laurier, just did the 22z data and came up with this. As at 10:14 am Using Netscape: http://www.australianweathernews.com/ gives an error still on my ISP (ihug.com.au ). http://66.186.211.80/ works fine. As far as DA is concerned: None of these work: http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR But these do: (using 03 01 16 22z) http://66.186.211.80/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET http://66.186.211.80/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN http://66.186.211.80/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP http://66.186.211.80/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY http://66.186.211.80/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR PC +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:03:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Peter. All consistent with the old server working and the new not working. I'm tempted to redelegate to the old server, but Murphy's Law says that if I do, the new one will come up! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter > Creswick > Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2003 23:22 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Weather News off air > > > Laurier, just did the 22z data and came up with this. > > As at 10:14 am > > Using Netscape: > http://www.australianweathernews.com/ gives an error still on my ISP > (ihug.com.au ). > http://66.186.211.80/ works fine. > > As far as DA is concerned: > None of these work: > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY > http://www.australianweathernews.com/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR > > But these do: (using 03 01 16 22z) > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/met/ at Y at M at D at H.MET > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/syn/ at Y at M at D at H.SYN > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/shp/ at M at D.SHP > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/boy/ at M at D.BOY > http://66.186.211.80/digatm/upr/ at M at D.UPR > > PC > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:31:42 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: aus-wx: SWW dark photo. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. I looked on my site this morning and the bushfire smoke pic`s is very dark..I just like to know is it just my or is it my computer.??? http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweath er.html Cheers.Weathernut ------------------------------- Weathernut. Wagga Wagga NSW Web site. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:37:50 +1100 From: Weathernut <440077 at austarnet.com.au> Subject: Re: aus-wx: SWW dark photo. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It just fix it self gggrrrrrrr. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Everyone,
 
I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can anyone tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji.  Supposedly there were to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more information has come forth.
 
Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can give because they have family in the area.
 
Judy Mayo.
 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:48:33 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The latest the ABC has is here: http://www.abc.gov.au/news/2003/01/item20030117111048_1.htm Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji > Hi Everyone, > > I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can > anyone tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji. Supposedly > there were to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more > information has come forth. > > Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can > give because they have family in the area. > > Judy Mayo. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:30:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm front has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently crossing that State. Any comments? Patrick +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:53:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All. Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto 60kms/hr at times. Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... Some pictures from Sunset today are here. http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg And the pics from the 8th are still up. http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > Hi all, > > Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm front > has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > crossing that State. > > Any comments? > > Patrick > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.206.150] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:54:37 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jan 2003 10:54:37.0990 (UTC) FILETIME=[D448E460:01C2BE16] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Judy,I do not know where that location is but the Cyclone crossed the eastern most main island group according to JTCWC graphics. News reports speak of some loss of life due storm surges and extensive damage. Sorry I can not be more detailed. Gavin Southside Weather Watch Canberra >From: "Adam Mayo" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:15:32 +1100 > >Hi Everyone, > >I know that this is slightly off topic for Aussie weather, but can anyone >tell me what has and is happening at REWA in Fiji. Supposedly there were >to be evacuations due to flooding of the river, but no more information has >come forth. > >Friends of ours would greatly appreciate any information that you can give >because they have family in the area. > >Judy Mayo. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: meso at mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:16:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Mal Ninnes Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: >Hi All. >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto >60kms/hr at times. > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > >Cheers >--------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------------- >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------------------------------------- >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Patrick Tobin" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > >> Hi all, >> >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm >front >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently >> crossing that State. >> >> Any comments? >> >> Patrick >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:56:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > >front > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > >> crossing that State. > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 00:27:49 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all . . . sorry have been a bit busy today as you can imagine. Current fire situation at hotham is still serious but looks slightly better. I was supposed to leave for Hotham at 5pm today, but they closed the roads and are not allowing anyone (including property owners) up the mountain. SO I'm stuck in Melbourne with fingers crossed. I have started an information web-page (for the Hotham fires) at http://www.trapdoor.com.au Which includes links to many of the relevant sites on the web, and some photos. Just click on the "Important Information" link at the top of the page. Dinner Plain is now also of concern to the fire fighters. Some spot fires have started at Falls Creek as well. I'll try and keep you informed, but I'll be posting regular updates on the page above, as I get the information. Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > >front > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > >> crossing that State. > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 02:09:07 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com On the quiete....not supposed to forward this...email from the NSWRFS

PLEASE NOTE: STATEWIDE TOTAL FIRE BAN in force effective for the 24 hours from MIDNIGHT TONIGHT, Friday, January 17, 2003 until MIDNIGHT Saturday, 18 January 2003.
Deteriorating weather conditions that have caused fires in southern NSW are threatening a number of townships have led fire authorities to close the Alpine Way beyond Jindabyne, shutting off access to the alpine resort areas.
“The township of Cabramurra currently has fire burning around it, with outlying residents being evacuated to the centre of town. Spot fire activity is prevalent through the township and crews are fighting to protect homes under the strong wind conditions,” said NSW Rural Fire Service Commissioner Phil Koperberg
“Given the spread of fire through the Snowy Mountains we are closing the Alpine Way beyond Jindabyne from this evening and asking all non-permanent residents to leave the alpine villages. Tourists who were planning to travel to the alpine resorts this weekend should postpone their travel plans, and have asked the organisers of the Thredbo Blues Festival to postpone as well.”

“Conditions tomorrow look set to deteriorate further across most of the State, leading me to declare a statewide Total Fire Ban for the 24 hours from midnight tonight.”

“We are appealing to all residents on the bush or grassland interfaces, particularly in the Southern Tablelands and South Western Slopes districts to ensure that their properties are well prepared for the possible onset of bushfires. They should ensure that their firefighting equipment is operational and that their families are well prepared to either relocate or work with firefighters to protect their homes if they come under threat from fire.”

Fires crews have been withdrawn from any direct firefighting or containment work, falling back to protect property under the strong wind conditions.
NSW firefighters working on fires on the western side of the ACT have also had to abandon any containment strategies.
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At 12:27 AM 1/18/2003, you wrote:
Hi all . . . sorry have been a bit busy today as you can imagine.
Current fire situation at hotham is still serious but looks slightly
better. I was supposed to leave for Hotham at 5pm today, but they closed
the roads and are not allowing anyone (including property owners) up the
mountain. SO I'm stuck in Melbourne with fingers crossed.

I have started an information web-page (for the Hotham fires) at
http://www.trapdoor.com.au

Which includes links to many of the relevant sites on the web, and some
photos. Just click on the "Important Information" link at the top of the
page.

Dinner Plain is now also of concern to the fire fighters.

Some spot fires have started at Falls Creek as well.

I'll try and keep you informed, but I'll be posting regular updates on
the page above, as I get the information.

Cheers

James
James Holbeach
--------------------------------
Trapdoor Ski Club
Mt. Hotham, Australia
ph. 0417 553 757
http://www.trapdoor.com.au
--------------------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell
Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires

Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella,
Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the
fires
from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still
showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was
from
2 days ago though.
http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Mal Ninnes" <meso at iinet.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires


> Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also
from
> fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of
the
ACT.
>
>
>
> At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi All.
> >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and
dp's
> >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts
upto
> >60kms/hr at times.
> >
> >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway....
> >
> >Some pictures from Sunset today are here.
> >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/
> >
> >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below
> >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg
> >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg
> >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg
> >
> >And the pics from the 8th are still up.
> >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/
> >
> >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution)
from
> >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been
decent
> >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be
found
> >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/
> >
> >Cheers
> >---------------------------------
> >Simon Angell
> >Canberra, ACT
> >www.canberra-wx.com
> >---------------------------------------------
> >Proud member of the
> >Australian Severe Weather Association.
> >www.severeweather.asn.au
> >--------------------------------------------------------------
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Patrick Tobin" <patricktobin at ozemail.com.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front?
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a
warm
> >front
> >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front
currently
> >> crossing that State.
> >>
> >> Any comments?
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>
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 From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: The Inconstant Sun Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:58:26 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

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NASA Science News for January 17, 2003

If you thought the sun was an unwavering beacon, you're wrong.  Its
brightness varies--only by a small amount, but perhaps enough to influence
Earth's climate.  An experiment called SOLCON on board shuttle mission
STS-107 is monitoring the sun's brightness high above Earth's cloudy
atmosphere.  Researchers say it's crucial data for studies of climate
change.

FULL STORY at

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 From: "Sha" To: "Crystal Unicorns" Subject: aus-wx: Sun's Magnetic Field Flips Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:53:24 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sun's Magnetic Field Flips 15-Feb-2001 http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=315 The sun's magnetic field shifted today, indicating that the solar maximum will be at its most intense over the next few months. A shift in the sun's polarity is not an unexpected event during a solar maximum, which has occurred every eleven years since the sunspot cycle was discovered. The sun's magnetic north pole is now in its southern hemisphere. It was in the northern hemisphere just a few weeks ago. The poles will remain in their current position until 2012, when they will reverse again. Unlike the earth, the sun's magnetic field shifts every eleven years with great regularity. Earth's magnetic field also shifts, but far less frequently. In the past, our planet's magnetic field has shifted as frequently as every 5,000 years, and there have been periods as long as 50 million years between shifts. The last time the earth's magnetic field shifted was 740,000 years ago, and some scientists believe that it is overdue for another shift. http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2297 The internet is filled with scary stories about a change in the polarity of earth's magnetic field being the cause of various sorts of catastrophe. In general, these stories identify recent catastrophes and claim that they were caused by a "pole shift." However, there is no scientific evidence that there is any correlation between shift's in the earth's magnetic field, which can be measured with fair precision, and climactic or geological disasters. Actual shifts in earth's magnetic field are far more rare than the catastrophe salesmen generally claim. In fact, the effect of this relatively rare event is unknown, but is not identified as threatening to human survival. During the period of flux, which could last for years as the magnetic field reconstructs itself, navigation by compass would be problematic and radio communications would be erratic. It is also possible that more of the solar wind would reach earth's surface while the field was in confusion. To read NASA's story about the sun's magnetic field reversal, click here http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast15feb_1.htm?list151777 For scientific information about magnetic field shifts and how they are measured, click here. http://istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/earthmag/reversal.htm --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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We'll see what the maximum is later. ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:05:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of emergency has been declared. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from > 2 days ago though. > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mal Ninnes" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the > ACT. > > > > > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > > >Hi All. > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > > >60kms/hr at times. > > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be > found > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > > > >Cheers > > >--------------------------------- > > >Simon Angell > > >Canberra, ACT > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Proud member of the > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > > >front > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > > >> crossing that State. > > >> > > >> Any comments? > > >> > > >> Patrick > > >> > > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > >> message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:39:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Simon, We hope that you and your family remain safe. What suburb do you live in. Are you anywhere near Weetangera? Heliocopter water drops are about to start at the fire in our local area at Forestville. 2CH say one house already lost. Not a good scenario here either. Judy Mayo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:05 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of > emergency has been declared. > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was > from > > 2 days ago though. > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the > > ACT. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > > > >Hi All. > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > > > >60kms/hr at times. > > > > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) > from > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been > decent > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be > > found > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Simon Angell > > > >Canberra, ACT > > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > > >Proud member of the > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a > warm > > > >front > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > > > >> crossing that State. > > > >> > > > >> Any comments? > > > >> > > > >> Patrick > > > >> > > > >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > >> message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:44:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/firesmap1.jpg That give an idea of where i am in respect to the alerts. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:39 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Simon, > We hope that you and your family remain safe. What suburb do you live in. > Are you anywhere near Weetangera? > Heliocopter water drops are about to start at the fire in our local area at > Forestville. 2CH say one house already lost. Not a good scenario here > either. > Judy Mayo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:05 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of > > emergency has been declared. > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Angell" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, > > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the > fires > > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still > > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was > > from > > > 2 days ago though. > > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also > from > > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of > the > > > ACT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > > > > >Hi All. > > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and > dp's > > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts > upto > > > > >60kms/hr at times. > > > > > > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > > > > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > > > > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > > > > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > > > > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) > > from > > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been > > decent > > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be > > > found > > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > >Simon Angell > > > > >Canberra, ACT > > > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > > > >Proud member of the > > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > > > > >To: > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > > >> > > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a > > warm > > > > >front > > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front > currently > > > > >> crossing that State. > > > > >> > > > > >> Any comments? > > > > >> > > > > >> Patrick > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > >> message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: "Weather list" Subject: aus-wx: Sydney's heat Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:11:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Well I don't know about anywhere else but at Seven Hills just managed equal highest with 15th January 2001 ..44.9 (37 years of data).
Keith Barnett
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 From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: wellington storms To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:24:10 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 18/01/2003 06:24:11 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Had reports of storms in wellington, molong, Bakers swamp area.. Whole area without power. Also strong winds around Wyangala Dam, brought down trees.. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Smoke plume Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:09:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Smoke plumes from the fires in the NE ranges are clearly visible today.
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:11:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Good luck guys! Wish you all the best. Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of > emergency has been declared. > > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was > from > > 2 days ago though. > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the > > ACT. > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > > > >Hi All. > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > > > >60kms/hr at times. > > > > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) > from > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been > decent > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be > > found > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > >--------------------------------- > > > >Simon Angell > > > >Canberra, ACT > > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > > >Proud member of the > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > > > >To: > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > >> > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a > warm > > > >front > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > > > >> crossing that State. > > > >> > > > >> Any comments? > > > >> > > > >> Patrick > > > >> > > > >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > >> message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: high winds To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:30:22 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 18/01/2003 07:30:24 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just had reports of high winds at Cobar , has snapped power pole at Cobar. 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Hello All,  
 
Just found this article, sounds every bit as bad as 1994 in Pittwater.
Judy Mayo

 http://www.smh.com.au/index.html Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\smh.com.au - The Sydney Morning Herald.url" From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:25:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, Well what a bad day here in Canberra, fortunately my location was spared with NW'ly winds keeping the Smoke and fires a few kms to my south. I have some pics from this afternoon up http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/18jan03/ Also upward of 60 houses destroyed in the duffy area, and i hope fellow list and ASWA member Michael King is allright, as he lives in the duffy area i believe. SE'ly have come in, now pushing fires back on the northern edges, if they cant get containment lines in tonight, and fires continue to burn in a northerly aspect, i could be in even worse situation tomorrow. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Good luck guys! Wish you all the best. > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of > > emergency has been declared. > > > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Angell" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, > > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the > fires > > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still > > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was > > from > > > 2 days ago though. > > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg > > > > > > Cheers > > > --------------------------------- > > > Simon Angell > > > Canberra, ACT > > > www.canberra-wx.com > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > Proud member of the > > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mal Ninnes" > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > > > > > > > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also > from > > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of > the > > > ACT. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > > > > >Hi All. > > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and > dp's > > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts > upto > > > > >60kms/hr at times. > > > > > > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > > > > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > > > > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > > > > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > > > > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) > > from > > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been > > decent > > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be > > > found > > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > > > > > > > >Cheers > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > >Simon Angell > > > > >Canberra, ACT > > > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > > > >--------------------------------------------- > > > > >Proud member of the > > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > > > > >To: > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi all, > > > > >> > > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a > > warm > > > > >front > > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front > currently > > > > >> crossing that State. > > > > >> > > > > >> Any comments? > > > > >> > > > > >> Patrick > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > > >> message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > > message. > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > > message. > > > 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your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Steve Baynham" To: "weather" Subject: aus-wx: ACT night fire pics Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:27:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com hey everyone. a very dark day in canberra as you all now know. about an hour ago i caught these images of the surrounding mountains to the west of tuggeranong and north. all taken with light enhancement: http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011801.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011802.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011803.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011804.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011805.jpg http://www.bsch.au.com/steve/fires/03011806.jpg Steve Baynham icq : 26863574 Brisbane Storm Chasers http://www.bsch.au.com Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au Homepage http://www.angelfire.com/ok/gany +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:48:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com didn't actually get anything here, saw some lightning. http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01b.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large02.jpg http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large03.jpg +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:28:12 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
holy s**t, sixty,
the duffy area, is that a suburb of canberra?
i hope everything holds out for you simon,
my thoughts go out to everyone who lost homes.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Saturday, 18 January 2003 9:04:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
 
Hi all,
Well what a bad day here in Canberra, fortunately my location was spared
with NW'ly winds keeping the Smoke and fires a few kms to my south. I have
some pics from this afternoon up http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/18jan03/

Also upward of 60 houses destroyed in the duffy area, and i hope fellow list
and ASWA member Michael King is allright, as he lives in the duffy area i
believe.

SE'ly have come in, now pushing fires back on the northern edges, if they
cant get containment lines in tonight, and fires continue to burn in a
northerly aspect, i could be in even worse situation tomorrow.

Cheers
---------------------------------
Simon Angell
Canberra, ACT
www.canberra-wx.com
---------------------------------------------
Proud member of the
Australian Severe Weather Association.
www.severeweather.asn.au
--------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires


> Good luck guys! Wish you all the best.
>
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
>
>
> > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of
> > emergency has been declared.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > ---------------------------------
> > Simon Angell
> > Canberra, ACT
> > www.canberra-wx.com
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Proud member of the
> > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon Angell" <simon at canberra-wx.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> >
> >
> > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella,
> > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the
> fires
> > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still
> > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was
> > from
> > > 2 days ago though.
> > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Simon Angell
> > > Canberra, ACT
> > > www.canberra-wx.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > Proud member of the
> > > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mal Ninnes" <meso at iinet.net.au>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> > >
> > >
> > > > Captains Flat radar appearsRe aus-wx ACT fires.ems to be picking up the smoke plumes also
> from
> > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of
> the
> > > ACT.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi All.
> > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and
> dp's
> > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts
> upto
> > > > >60kms/hr at times.
> > > > >
> > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek.
anyway....
> > > > >
> > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here.
> > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/
> > > > >
> > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below
> > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg
> > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg
> > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up.
> > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/
> > > > >
> > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution)
> > from
> > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been
> > decent
> > > > >ones Re aus-wx ACT fires.ems since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can
be
> > > found
> > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers
> > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > >Simon Angell
> > > > >Canberra, ACT
> > > > >www.canberra-wx.com
> > > > >---------------------------------------------
> > > > >Proud member of the
> > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin" <patricktobin at ozemail.com.au>
> > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM
> > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a
> > warm
> > > > >front
> > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front
> currently
> > > > >> crossing that State.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Any comments?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Patrick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > >
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP71.gif: 00000001,66a93f11,00000000,00000000 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:59:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Queensland I would guess? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan > didn't actually get anything here, saw some lightning. > > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01b.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large02.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large03.jpg > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:29:56 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
great pics,
 
um, where's here
 
richard
 
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didn't actually get anything here, saw some lightning.

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Phil is from Sydney

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great pics,
 
um, where's here
 
richard
 
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didn't actually get anything here, saw some lightning.

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Almost 400 homes have been destroyed and two people killed in Canberra as bushfires swept through the national capital, with emergency services bracing for more blazes.

The ACT Emergency Services Bureau (ESB) said fire crews and emergency workers were busy mopping up this morning and preparing to create fire breaks around at-risk areas ahead of a wind change this afternoon.

Fires were burning on five fronts in the ACT, with blazes in the northern suburbs of Mitchell and Holt still out of control.

But it was Canberra's southern, western and north-western suburbs which bore the brunt of firestorms yesterday and overnight, with at least 388 homes destroyed and the number expected to grow.

ESB spokesman Kelvin Watt said about 2,500 people in up to 12 suburbs had been evacuated and residents advised not to return to their homes as emergency crews took in bulldozers to create fire breaks.

 From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: aus-wx: ACT Fires Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:56:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Senitinel hopspot images below also...Shows the main fires, but not the spotting....
www.canberra-wx.com/firemap.htm (click to zoom in further toward my area)

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 From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:21:17 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com sorry, i'm in concord, Sydney Those cells were to the east of me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 9:48 PM Subject: aus-wx: Some photos of todays storms, 18th Jan > didn't actually get anything here, saw some lightning. > > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large01b.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large02.jpg > http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0803/18jan/18jan2003large03.jpg > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew McDonald" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australia Heat Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:09:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 04:09:34.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[92EF64C0:01C2BF70] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Afternoon all,
 
As has been discussed around the weather circles there is some pretty warm air currently sitting over Australia.  But I had to post this.  Mardie in NW WA at 11:27am was reporting 46.8C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SLIGHTLY WARM!
 
Macca
 
 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:34:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
....we used to live up there, which is why we now live down here...
 
Robyn in Ballarat
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Afternoon all,
 
As has been discussed around the weather circles there is some pretty warm air currently sitting over Australia.  But I had to post this.  Mardie in NW WA at 11:27am was reporting 46.8C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SLIGHTLY WARM!
 
Macca
 
 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:52:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 05:34 PM 19/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >....we used to live up there, which is why we now live down here... I dunno, give me the heat anyday... I hate winter. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:18:12 +1000 From: Tim Eckert Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Got to 42.1C here at Adelaide today, 44C just north of us at Parafield. Tim Eckert (now living in Holden Hill, Adelaide) ---- Original message ---- >Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:52:17 +1100 >From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >At 05:34 PM 19/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >>....we used to live up there, which is why we now live down here... > >I dunno, give me the heat anyday... I hate winter. :) > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------- -------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:34:46 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com And that's on its way to Sydney..35-40 expected Tuesday and by the look of the prognoses, a 'corker' next Saturday. (Love the heat too, but some rain with it would be nice...) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Eckert" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 6:18 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat > Got to 42.1C here at Adelaide today, 44C just north of > us at Parafield. > > Tim Eckert > (now living in Holden Hill, Adelaide) > > > ---- Original message ---- > >Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 17:52:17 +1100 > >From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" 1 at optusnet.com.au> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australia Heat > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >At 05:34 PM 19/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > >>....we used to live up there, which is why we now live > down here... > > > >I dunno, give me the heat anyday... I hate winter. :) > > > >73 de Tony, VK3JED > >http://vkradio.com > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather > your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------- > -------------- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australia Heat Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:35:46 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Both Mardie and Onslow Airport got to 48 degrees (rounded). Mardie's highest January max is 48.9 and all-month highest 50.5 (45 years of computer records), while Onslow AP's Jan high is 47.1 and all-month 48.1 in 36 years, so at least one record will go depending on where the decimal points fall.
 
No wonder the NWlies are bringing hot air to the southeastern states!
 
Laurier
 
 
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Afternoon all,
 
As has been discussed around the weather circles there is some pretty warm air currently sitting over Australia.  But I had to post this.  Mardie in NW WA at 11:27am was reporting 46.8C!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SLIGHTLY WARM!
 
Macca
 
 From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:54:35 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
 
 
 
Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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Hi Sha,
 
Yes we saw it also (Mt. Crosby).  It was caused by a smoke veil at quite high altitude.  Not sure where the smoke came from, I think it is unlikely to be from the ACT, as we are too far away.  Best bet is a large fire on Fraser Is., and another near the pine plantations at Beerburrum, both now out.
 
Regards,
John.
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Subject: aus-wx: Orange Moon !

Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
 
 
 
Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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Smoke I'd say. Talking of smoke, It's here again this morning and thicker than it's been. Visibility probably about 500 metres and an eerie kind of darkness. (7.45am)
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Subject: aus-wx: Orange Moon !

Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
 
 
 
Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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 Embedded Content: full_orange_moon_18Jan20032.JPG: 00000001,34c630cb,00000000,00000000 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:55:41 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry Got to be brief- yes very smokey here in melb, smoke is from fires to NE. Mt. Hotham and Harrietville are under direct threat, and may have already been hit. Sentinel maps from last night tend to suggest containment lines held, but thick smoke can obscure some of the sat data. 10am: Satellite image from yesterday http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/production/single.cgi?2003019/crefl1_ 143.A2003019000000-2003019000459.2km.jpg Media is ignoring the situation up there and focusing on the aftermath of the Canberra tragedy. However the situation is critical, and today will be the most important day. With some 200 homes at Hotham (maybe more?), about the same amount in Harrietville and another 100 at Dinner Plain, at serious risk. More regular updates on our web-site below. James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:28 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Hi all . . . sorry have been a bit busy today as you can imagine. Current fire situation at hotham is still serious but looks slightly better. I was supposed to leave for Hotham at 5pm today, but they closed the roads and are not allowing anyone (including property owners) up the mountain. SO I'm stuck in Melbourne with fingers crossed. I have started an information web-page (for the Hotham fires) at http://www.trapdoor.com.au Which includes links to many of the relevant sites on the web, and some photos. Just click on the "Important Information" link at the top of the page. Dinner Plain is now also of concern to the fire fighters. Some spot fires have started at Falls Creek as well. I'll try and keep you informed, but I'll be posting regular updates on the page above, as I get the information. Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > >front > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > >> crossing that State. > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:17:33 +1030 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Phil Bagust Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply bound to happen. My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses more fire resistant without making them unafordable? Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.134.113.161] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: what has happened to Australian Weather? Canberra Fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:57:42 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jan 2003 23:57:42.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[8E14DA60:01C2C016] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Canberra Fires;We at Gilmore escaped the worst of the fires but the scene we can see accross the Tuggeranong Valley defies description. The Brindabella Ranges appear to be burnt out and large areas of grassland between the Murrumbidgee River and Bonython-Oxley Kambah is also burnt out.I have not been into the affected areas and don not intend to other than going to Bonython to change Thermo-hygrograph charts at our weather station. I guess you all saw the TV pictures but I doubt they show all the devastation. We are all very shocked by Saturday's events.At 3 pm it was so dark we had to use torches and outside lights to prepare outside for the fire.It was raining ashes leaves and some were very hot burning holes in our front lawn. We miss the Australian Weather . Can any one tell us when it will be on line? Gavin O'Brien Southside Weather Canberra _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:14:53 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks for the feedback guys :) I hadn't realised there were fires at Beerburrum or Fraser Island John. We did have smoke on the ranges close by - I am at Toogoolawah, which is close to Esk. They weren't any where near serious enough to warrant such colouration of the moon though. As Dale has said, it was so eerie !! I look forward to seeing your photos Dale. Whilst I was looking around the Internet for info, I saw a picture of Titan, which is Saturn's largest moon. If you take a look at this webpage, the picture there depicts an almost exact replica of the vision of our moon the other night : http://www.solarviews.com/eng/titan.htm#views Last night, Jupiter was able to be seen very close to our moon, but the sky was very dark and cloudy for most of the early evening. At about 2am I went out and was greeted with a great view !! The moon had a wonderful halo right around it, with the brilliant white (not a touch of orange left) fully exposed amidst a backdrop of a fully clouded, but bright sky. I took a photo, but as my camera is not good, the reproduction was not as I had hoped for. Did anybody else see this, or perhaps get a shot please ? As I would like to show a friend what these moon halos look like, and my picture is not very clear, if no-one has a shot of last night, does anyone have some good halos on file please ? Another request :))) ............. There was an amazing halo around the sun several days ago in Perth - so much so that it was noted by the media apparently. Does anybody have anything further on that as well please ? Thanks heaps, Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Small" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:25 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Hello Sha. Yes i saw it myself, from its point of rising until it dropped in the early morning (im a shift worker) It was so eerie, it really looked like mars from a close up, i mentioned it to Anthony Cornelius whom saw it himself after a little while, and a couple of other brisbanites in the #weather chat room. Almost surreal you could say, ive never seen anything like it in my life before. I live down here in Jimboomba by the way so had no city lights or obtruction affecting the view of it. Took photos myself but im not sure how they will turn out, yours is almost identical to what i saw. The moon upon rising was most spectacular. The sunset itself that same evening was even better! Regards Dale --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: sgalow at ihug.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:52:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com and i have friends in caloundra and also in the areas you have mentioned , also i have friends in the esk area as well . stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:14 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! > Thanks for the feedback guys :) > > I hadn't realised there were fires at Beerburrum or Fraser Island John. We > did have smoke on the ranges close by - I am at Toogoolawah, which is close > to Esk. They weren't any where near serious enough to warrant such > colouration of the moon though. As Dale has said, it was so eerie !! I > look forward to seeing your photos Dale. > > Whilst I was looking around the Internet for info, I saw a picture of > Titan, which is Saturn's largest moon. If you take a look at this webpage, > the picture there depicts an almost exact replica of the vision of our moon > the other night : http://www.solarviews.com/eng/titan.htm#views > > Last night, Jupiter was able to be seen very close to our moon, but the sky > was very dark and cloudy for most of the early evening. At about 2am I went > out and was greeted with a great view !! The moon had a wonderful halo > right around it, with the brilliant white (not a touch of orange left) fully > exposed amidst a backdrop of a fully clouded, but bright sky. I took a > photo, but as my camera is not good, the reproduction was not as I had hoped > for. > > Did anybody else see this, or perhaps get a shot please ? > > As I would like to show a friend what these moon halos look like, and my > picture is not very clear, if no-one has a shot of last night, does anyone > have some good halos on file please ? > > Another request :))) ............. There was an amazing halo around the sun > several days ago in Perth - so much so that it was noted by the media > apparently. Does anybody have anything further on that as well please ? > > Thanks heaps, > Love > Sha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Small" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:25 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! > > > Hello Sha. > > Yes i saw it myself, from its point of rising until it dropped in the early > morning (im a shift worker) > It was so eerie, it really looked like mars from a close up, i mentioned it > to Anthony Cornelius whom saw it himself after a little while, and a couple > of other brisbanites in the #weather chat room. > > Almost surreal you could say, ive never seen anything like it in my life > before. > I live down here in Jimboomba by the way so had no city lights or obtruction > affecting the view of it. > > Took photos myself but im not sure how they will turn out, yours is almost > identical to what i saw. > The moon upon rising was most spectacular. > The sunset itself that same evening was even better! > > Regards > Dale > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:57:40 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon !
Hi Sha and All.

It was the smoke plume from the SE Australian fires blowing out over the Tasman and curving back over the coast in SE Qld and was visible in some satpics as one was shown on one of the TV News bulletins commenting on the orange moon (cannot remember which channel it was now though!). It came in over the Gold Coast off the Tasman during the afternoon (18th) and by 4pm had dulled the Sun to an orange disk which made the landscape quite hellish in appearance. The deep-orange sunset was quite a sight!

During the 19th it thinned to a brownish-grey haze but remained in the sky much of the day and in the late afternoon it moved rapidly offshore, and was still visible from the Gold Coast near the E horizon a little while before sunset.

Shortly after the Moon came up it was white (cannot see right down to the E horizon from here) so the smoke had well and truly cleared away.

Regards,
Carl.


Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
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Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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 X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:01:30 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, I was looking at the moon about 23:00 saturday night will on the fireground talking to other members from my tanker.

At 01:54 AM 1/20/2003, you wrote:
Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
 
full_orange_moon_18Jan20031.JPG 
 
Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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 Embedded Content: full_orange_moon_18Jan200311.JPG: 00000001,6ceed70f,00000000,00000000 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: what has happened to Australian Weather? Canberra Fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:36:08 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Gavin, nice to know that AWN is missed! :) You can get the site at http://66.186.211.80/. My host is upgrading its servers, and I was supposed to switch to the new servers last week. I uploaded the site to the new servers, and delegated (pointed) the name "australianweathernews.com" to them, but although I can ftp to them, they won't handle http (web) requests. Unfortunately, the host company's phones are overloaded and they don't answer service tickets, so they are either snowed under with the problem or going bust. There are several other prominent Aussie weather sites with this host company, so I hope it's just the former. Last night I redelegated to the old server (which is the IP address above, and still operating), but it'll take another 12 to 24 hours to propagate around the nameservers by which time you'll be able to get the site if you go to "australianweathernews.com". The scale of the Canberra fires is breathtaking, though, in retrospect, having pine plantations close to dense housing in a known bushfire-prone area meant that it was only a matter of time in happening. Anyone that has despatched an old Christmas tree by putting it on a fire knows how fiercely pine needles burn. That is little consolation to those affected. My wife and I live in the Blue Mountains and have faced the trauma of evacuation twice, along with the realisation that we could lose not just our home but all the personal things that make up what we are, so I have a deep gut feeling for the stunning reality that people who have lost everything are facing today. When I saw the TV footage of the fires on Saturday evening, I had difficulty understanding what I was looking at. Surely they were night-time images, yet the words were telling me it had just happened. When I looked up the incredible Modis image taken at 2.30pm Saturday (http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gallery/?2003018-0118/Australia.A2003018 .0330.2km.jpg, but DO download the 250m image) and realised that what appears to be a massive overshooting field of Cb was in fact the smoke from the fires being projected -- what? -- 15,000, 20,000 feet up by the sheet intensity of the heat, I realised that it must have been as dark as night on the ground. Suddenly I realised, and your post confirms, that the apparent night-time news footage was in fact taken mid-afternoon. I am deeply sorry for the huge number of Canberrans that have lost everything, and I grieve too for Mt Stromlo Observatory which had a very special place in my heart. It had a spiritus locii or sense of place that breathed of the early days of science. I know it will rise again with the vigour that comes from such dramatic adversity, but the feel of the old place is now just a memory. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Gavin O'Brien > Sent: Sunday, 19 January, 2003 23:58 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: aus-wx: what has happened to Australian Weather? Canberra Fires > > > > > Canberra Fires;We at Gilmore escaped the worst of the fires but > the scene we > can see accross the Tuggeranong Valley defies description. The > Brindabella > Ranges appear to be burnt out and large areas of grassland between the > Murrumbidgee River and Bonython-Oxley Kambah is also burnt out.I have not > been into the affected areas and don not intend to other than going to > Bonython to change Thermo-hygrograph charts at our weather > station. I guess > you all saw the TV pictures but I doubt they show all the devastation. We > are all very shocked by Saturday's events.At 3 pm it was so dark > we had to > use torches and outside lights to prepare outside for the fire.It was > raining ashes leaves and some were very hot burning holes in our > front lawn. > We miss the Australian Weather . Can any one tell us when it will be on > line? > Gavin O'Brien > Southside Weather Canberra > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Crystal Unicorns" Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:44:11 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I have seen terms such as Fair, cloudy, sunny and many, many more - but this is the first time I have seen the term "Smoke" listed as a weather condition !!  This is from a Yahoo weather alert.

Love
Sha
 
 
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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 10:58:48 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah, Phil, that was something I was thinking about too. Here in HK the building codes are so restrictive that homes are boring. All floors and ceilings roofs and walls must be reinforced concrete and able to withstand constant winds of 250 km/h (because of typhoons) able to withstand certain levels of earthquake and so on. The trouble is we end up all living in identical unimaginative boxes which are extremely fire, typhoon and earthquake resistant, but which are not by any stretch of the imagination attractive or beautiful. I think of the many Aussie homes I have lived in, and I really miss the timber construction which can be made to look so beautiful, the huge variety of shapes and sizes, the enormous windows (which of course allow radiant heat from a passing bushfire to ignite everything inside), the wooden floors which feel so good underfoot (remember we here in HK are forced to have concrete floors that are so hard and cold), the variety of roofing materials that means each house can be different from its neighbours (here RC is the only material allowed). While I can see that better building codes may save the costs incurred when bushfires invade the suburbs, I really don't know whether Aussies would be able to accept the rigid codes enforced here. We can lay wooden parquetry over the concrete floor, but while that makes it better to look at, it doesn't make it any softer to walk on - it doesn't have that certain amount of "give" that a timber floor in an Aussie house has. I reckon the average Aussie house, despite its combustibility, is far, far more comfortable to live in than Hong Kong's fireproof concrete boxes. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Phil Bagust To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 08:17:33 +1030 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Hi all > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El > Nino > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is > simply > bound to happen. > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these > situations, > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively > as a > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make > houses > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: > Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - > - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:10:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This is called a 'Bushfire Moon'. I have seen it before coming up through some trees on a hill and thought it was a fire. It is a beautiful sight, but usually means there is smoke high up in the atmosphere from bushfires. (Or cane burning?) I guess the smoke has to be in just the right spot, because the time we saw a Bushfire Moon, the air was clear of smoke where we were. Once seen never forgotten - it is an extraordinary sight and very beautiful.
 
Cheers Robyn
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From: Sha
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:54 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Orange Moon !

Hi guys
 
I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on Saturday January 18 ?? 
I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!!
 
From the time the moon rose at dusk, until it set at dawn (I especially got up several times during the night to look if it had changed colour), it was coloured a bright orange colour !!!  Not a speck of white to be seen ...... and it also appeared to be much smaller in size than the moon of the previous night and that of tonight - which are both definitely a vivid bright white !
 
I attach here a photo I took of it at around 9pm Queensland time.  My camera is only a little guy and doesn't do that well in poor light, but the vivid orange as shown here was just what we saw !!  The surrounding sky was not quite as dark as depicted here, but other than that, the picture is true to life.
 
 
 
Please let me know (shambhala at hotkey.net.au) if anyone else saw this coloured moon, as I have searched the Internet and have not discovered any information on what may have been the cause.
 
I have wondered if the fires have caused this colouration, but am intrigued to see what others in the country saw last night - and why it wasn't orange again tonight as the fires are still burning madly.

Love
Sha
 

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 Embedded Content: full_orange_moon_18Jan20033.JPG: 00000001,7ed31800,00000000,00000000 From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: aus-wx: Central west Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:18:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Smokey in Ballarat - we couldn't see the town which is barely a kilometre away. Now waiting for the change to blow the wretched stuff away. The Spouse was over Antarctica yesterday, and the pilot was amazed at how clear the sky was down there. Said they have never seen it so clear. They flew around for 4 hours over an area the size of Victoria, and didn't see a single cloud. Robyn in Ballarat +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:22:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A big 'yes' to both. We have strict codes in the northern coastal areas to protect houses from cyclones, so why don't we have codes to protect houses from bushfires in such a fire-prone country? We all end up paying for bushfires, no matter where we live. The cost of fire-trucks and helicopters, as well as fire relief for victims come from 'the government', (which means our taxes pay for it.) Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Hi all > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply > bound to happen. > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:26:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon !
Thanks so much for your great feedback Carl ..... and all.
 
As others have said, it was an incredible sight ... not to be forgotten.
 
Yes, the sunset the previous day was something I had failed to mention, but from about mid afternoon here, the sky was an eerie, dull colour that had an amazing orange glow about it, through the haze.  The sunset was very dramatically red, but my camera was not able to do it justice in the dim light.
 
love
Sha
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Smith
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon !

Hi Sha and All.

It was the smoke plume from the SE Australian fires blowing out over the Tasman and curving back over the coast in SE Qld and was visible in some satpics as one was shown on one of the TV News bulletins commenting on the orange moon (cannot remember which channel it was now though!). It came in over the Gold Coast off the Tasman during the afternoon (18th) and by 4pm had dulled the Sun to an orange disk which made the landscape quite hellish in appearance. The deep-orange sunset was quite a sight!

During the 19th it thinned to a brownish-grey haze but remained in the sky much of the day and in the late afternoon it moved rapidly offshore, and was still visible from the Gold Coast near the E horizon a little while before sunset.

Shortly after the Moon came up it was white (cannot see right down to the E horizon from here) so the smoke had well and truly cleared away.

Regards,
Carl.
 

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 From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:37:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sha & all,
 
I've been taking photos all day & I'll upload a whole bunch of images from just after dawn onwards.  They aren't kidding - work is 3km NE of the CBD and at 7.30am you had to look hard to find the buildings. It's beginning to thin out somewhat atm.
 
Pics will be up tonight after I've finished 'firesafing' the house in preparation for the next seriously hot weather next weekend.
 
PS: links to current fire news in NSW, Victoria & the Vic alpine areas are linked from the Current Victorian & Australian Conditions page at www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm
 
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I have seen terms such as Fair, cloudy, sunny and many, many more - but this is the first time I have seen the term "Smoke" listed as a weather condition !!  This is from a Yahoo weather alert.

Love
Sha
 
 
Melbourne Today
at: 11:29 am AEST Fº | Cº
Currently:
31º 		Smoke
Smoke		 Hi: 35
Lo: 16
· Text Forecast
· Records & Averages

 
 
 

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 XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:51:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil. I cound not agree more strongly. Bush fires are a matter of fact, and no amount of controlled burning will ever eliminate the risk. I believe building codes need to be altered for properties adjacent to bushland, for example, to disallow exposed timberwork, require steel frame construction with metal facias, have modified guttering with fire proof roof construction and possibly metal shutters installed on windows facing bushland. Moreover, council bylaws should enforce certain vegetation constraints and fire break distances and easy public access between buildings and bushland, with perhaps some give & take, e.g., 200m of cleared parkland removes the need for shutters, etc. Also some sort of additional high capacity water service should be mandated on the bushland side of properties to be installed when the estates are developed to assist fire fighting, with even perhaps some automatic heat triggered sprinkler system to kill off embers. At the end of the day, the actual cost to the homeowner should be fairly minimal with a large part of the responsibility being carried by the authorities. Mostly it is just a case of sensible town planning IMHO. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Bagust Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:48 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Hi all Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply bound to happen. My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses more fire resistant without making them unafordable? Phil Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 2002-12-17 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: jindivik at optusnet.com.au X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.411 (Entity 5.404) To: "aussie-weather at world . std . com" Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:00:58 +1100 Subject: Re: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Jane, I got a couple of pics this morning when I got to work of the sunrise which I will e- mail to you tonight when I get home. At the moment there is almost as much smoke in the factory as there is outside, the coolers have been sucking the smoke into the factory all day and there is a very visable haze inside. Chris > Jane ONeill wrote: > > Sha & all, > > I've been taking photos all day & I'll upload a whole bunch of images > from just after dawn onwards. They aren't kidding - work is 3km NE > of the CBD and at 7.30am you had to look hard to find the buildings. > It's beginning to thin out somewhat atm. > > Pics will be up tonight after I've finished 'firesafing' the house in > preparation for the next seriously hot weather next weekend. > > PS: links to current fire news in NSW, Victoria & the Vic alpine > areas are linked from the Current Victorian & Australian Conditions > page at www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky and Weather > www.stormchasers.au.com > > ASWA - Victoria > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward.*** > -------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sha > To: Crystal Unicorns > Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 1:44 > Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code > > > I have seen terms such as Fair, cloudy, sunny and many, many more - > but this is the first time I have seen the term "Smoke" listed as a > weather condition !! This is from a Yahoo weather alert. > > Love > Sha > > > > > Melbourne Today > > at: 11:29 am AEST Fº | Cº > > Currently: > 31º > Smoke Hi: 35 > Lo: 16 > > > > > · Text Forecast > · Records & Averages > > > > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:06:57 +1100 From: weathernut at austarnet.com.au Subject: aus-wx: 19/1/2003 Bushfire smoke pic`s. To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Webmail Mirapoint Direct 3.2.1-GA Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi. Here are some pic`s taken yesterday in Wagga Wagga NSW.. Willans Hill at 6pm http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke.jp g Willans Hill at 6.30pm http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke1.j pg Willans Hill at 7.35pm. http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke3.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke4.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke5.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke6.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke7.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke8.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke9.j pg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke10 .jpg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke11 .jpg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke12 .jpg http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/waggasmoke13 .jpg -------------------------------------- Name:Robert M. Nick name:Weathernut Email:weathernut at austarnet.com.au Web site:http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/southwestweather.html ---------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David Jones To: "old AUSSIE WX (aussie-weather-digest at world.std.com)" Subject: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:14:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, >and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a >nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses >more fire resistant without making them unaffordable? > >Phil Phil my very strongly held view is that councils should bring in retrospective standards, mandating that alternative water sources and pumps be in place with sprinkler systems (etc etc) for all residents within (say) 500 metres of bushland. I have spent $4K this year doing it to our place in the Dandenongs and it really p***es me off that my neighbors have left their places over-grown and without any defence in place. If everybody was as prepared as I, I would not be nearly as nervous about this fire season as I am. We live in a very protected SE facing gully which means that the only way fire can get to our place is via other people's properties - many of which are woefully maintained.... and not defendable. BTW watch for an extreme heat-wave coming up this Friday-Sunday for Vic. Coastal Vic (including Melbourne) may escape with only one really hot day (Friday), but away from the coast temperatures will very likely be in the 40s for each of these days. There are signs that this system may stream some tropical moisture across Victoria on the weekend, but not before some really baking temperatures - to tell the truth I wouldn't be surprised to see Mildura (etc.) crack 45C at least once during this spell. 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Thanks Jane .... I look forward to them :)

Love
Sha
 
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Sha & all,
 
I've been taking photos all day & I'll upload a whole bunch of images from just after dawn onwards.  They aren't kidding - work is 3km NE of the CBD and at 7.30am you had to look hard to find the buildings. It's beginning to thin out somewhat atm.
 
Pics will be up tonight after I've finished 'firesafing' the house in preparation for the next seriously hot weather next weekend.
 
PS: links to current fire news in NSW, Victoria & the Vic alpine areas are linked from the Current Victorian & Australian Conditions page at www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm
 
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 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:30:41 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Robyn, We end up paying... Apparently I heard through the grapevine that there were suggestions to increase premiums of those houses living in 'higher risk areas". Now does anyone have more accurate and factual up to date information on this issue? Second hand information is not one ot trust. Jimmy Deguara At 02:22 PM 20/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >A big 'yes' to both. We have strict codes in the northern coastal areas to >protect houses from cyclones, so why don't we have codes to protect houses >from bushfires in such a fire-prone country? We all end up paying for >bushfires, no matter where we live. The cost of fire-trucks and helicopters, >as well as fire relief for victims come from 'the government', (which means >our taxes pay for it.) > >Robyn > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Phil Bagust" >To: >Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > Hi all > > > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El >Nino > > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is >simply > > bound to happen. > > > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these >situations, > > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as >a > > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > > > Phil > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fire Season Summaries website Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 14:35:21 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
You guys may already be aware of this site, but if not, it is a great resource for Fire Events.
 

Current & Archived Significant Global Fire Events
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http://www.fire.uni-freiburg.de/current/globalfire.htm#Fire%20Season%20Summaries

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 X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:58:26 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: fires and heat Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com There are some steps that can be taken in building codes which could help very much but as you mention.....money money. Basically a brick external with pump driven sprinklers around the house would be of extreme benefit. Brick off all but a steel access door to under the house will stop sparks from getting under the house. I personally feel that tiles are a shit of an idea, they blow off in the wind and if you ever get close to a decent size fire, you will see lots of wind, thus leaving the ceiling vulnerable. I would imagine that properly secured tin would be more suitable. The less wood/plastic etc the fire can get to the better chance you should have. When the fire does hit, the sprinklers wont be worth didly squat BUT they should have at least helped cool/wet things down and when the fire moves at speed, by the time all the dampness has disappeared the front should be gone and miracles can happen. Thats just a personal opinion from what I have seen myself in the line of duty. Falling trees can also be a big problem so limit what type and how many around the house for shade. As nice as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. At 03:14 PM 1/20/2003, you wrote: > >My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, > >and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a > >nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > >more fire resistant without making them unaffordable? > > > >Phil > >Phil my very strongly held view is that councils should bring in >retrospective standards, mandating that alternative water sources and pumps >be in place with sprinkler systems (etc etc) for all residents within (say) >500 metres of bushland. I have spent $4K this year doing it to our place in >the Dandenongs and it really p***es me off that my neighbors have left their >places over-grown and without any defence in place. If everybody was as >prepared as I, I would not be nearly as nervous about this fire season as I >am. We live in a very protected SE facing gully which means that the only >way fire can get to our place is via other people's properties - many of >which are woefully maintained.... and not defendable. > >BTW watch for an extreme heat-wave coming up this Friday-Sunday for Vic. >Coastal Vic (including Melbourne) may escape with only one really hot day >(Friday), but away from the coast temperatures will very likely be in the >40s for each of these days. There are signs that this system may stream some >tropical moisture across Victoria on the weekend, but not before some really >baking temperatures - to tell the truth I wouldn't be surprised to see >Mildura (etc.) crack 45C at least once during this spell. > >Regards, > >David > >D.Jones at bom.gov.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:22:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly some types of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for planting in fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of Canberra may yield some interesting data on this also. John. >snip ... Falling trees can also be a big problem so limit what type and how many around the house for shade. As nice as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. ... +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.11.48.45] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:59:01 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 05:59:01.0775 (UTC) FILETIME=[07EA81F0:01C2C049] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Well, what a couple of days it's been.

I was out of town when the excrement hit the rapidly revolving device.

North Duffy, North Holder were the worst hit areas.

I live in South Duffy - my house is safe. My thoughts go out to all affected, especially the bereaved. At one stage, when out of town on my way home, I was convinced I saw my home alight on the ABC news. In retrospect, one AV Jennings house alight looks like any other AV Jennings house alight.

I'd imagine the firestorm developed or at least was assisted along by the large pine forests which adjoin the westerly (Eucembene Drive) and northerly boundaries (Waragamba Drive; Dixon Drive) of Duffy and Holder.

I'd surmise the trajectory of this firestorm track was not only dictated by these pine forests, but then further enhanced by the inflow of winds to the conflugration, as they demanded vasts amount of oxygen.

Thanks to the brave firemen, police and ordinary citiz! ! ens who did such a great job in the face of overwhelmming odds.

>From: "Simon Angell"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:25:36 +1100
>
>Hi all,
>Well what a bad day here in Canberra, fortunately my location was spared
>with NW'ly winds keeping the Smoke and fires a few kms to my south. I have
>some pics from this afternoon up http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/18jan03/
>
>Also upward of 60 houses destroyed in the duffy area, and i hope fellow list
>and ASWA member Michael King is allright, as he lives in the duffy area i
>believe.
>
>SE'ly have come in, now pushing fires back on the northern edges, if they
>cant get containment lines in tonight, and fires continue to burn in a
>northerly aspect, i could be in even worse situation tomorrow.
>
>Cheers
>---------------------------------
>Simon Angell
>Canberra, ACT
>www.canberra-wx.com
>---------------------------------------------
>Proud member of the
>Australian Severe Weather Association.
>www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bussy"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:11 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
>
>
> > Good luck guys! Wish you all the best.
> >
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> >
> >
> > > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of
> > > emergency has been declared.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Simon Angell
> > > Canberra, ACT
> > > www.canberra-wx.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > Proud member of the
> > > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Simon Angell"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella,
> > > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the
> > fires
> > > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still
> > > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was
> > > from
> > > > 2 days ago though.
> > > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Simon Angell
> > > > Canberra, ACT
> > > > www.canberra-wx.com
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > Proud member of the
> > > > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mal Ninnes"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also
> > from
> > > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of
> > the
> > > > ACT.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi All.
> > > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and
> > dp's
> > > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts
> > upto
> > > > > >60kms/hr at times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek.
>anyway....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here.
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up.
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution)
> > > from
> > > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been
> > > decent
> > > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can
>be
> > > > found
> > > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cheers
> > > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > > >Simon Angell
> > > > > >Canberra, ACT
> > > > > >www.canberra-wx.com
> > > > > >---------------------------------------------
> > > > > >Proud member of the
> > > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM
> > > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a
> > > warm
> > > > > >front
> > > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front
> > currently
> > > > > >> crossing that State.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Any comments?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Patrick
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > >
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get 2 months FREE* +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:36:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Not trees, but day-lillies are EXTREMELY fire retardant. If you have a high bank at the front/side/back of your house, a big, long bed of daylillies could save your house - even scorched ones don't seem to catch fire. They also stop fire spreading along the ground, and they are pretty bomb-proof growing wise. Robyn, also a member of Ausgardens forum ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > Hi, > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly some types > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for planting in > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of Canberra may > yield some interesting data on this also. > > John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:02:19 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From what I have experienced, even the smallest fire burns paperbarks. At 04:22 PM 1/20/2003, you wrote: >Hi, > >The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service >chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species >between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly some types >of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper >barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major >fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all >moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On >the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, >blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > >I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various >species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for planting in >fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of Canberra may >yield some interesting data on this also. > >John. > >snip >... Falling trees can also be a big >problem so limit what type and how many around the house for shade. As nice >as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. >... > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:26:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As long as everyone has them! Not much good if you've got flammable stuff next door , or sparks coming down all over the place (although of course people do have to play their part in keeping debris to a minimum). And what could stop the fireballs (presumably exploding eucalyptus oils or other resins etc) ? Only a drastic change in planning (or should that be planting?) policy (as advocated earlier on this forum). ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: fires and heat > Not trees, but day-lillies are EXTREMELY fire retardant. If you have a high > bank at the front/side/back of your house, a big, long bed of daylillies > could save your house - even scorched ones don't seem to catch fire. They > also stop fire spreading along the ground, and they are pretty bomb-proof > growing wise. > > Robyn, also a member of Ausgardens forum > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 4:22 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > > > Hi, > > > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service > > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species > > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly some > types > > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper > > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On > > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for planting > in > > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of Canberra > may > > yield some interesting data on this also. > > > > John. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: ACT fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 18:27:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Not over yet. Just hung a map on the wall and ploted a couple of hot spots. Apparently there is one still burning at Hall and or Murembateman. Wind prediction is for North Westerlies tomorow which puts them in line with my place at Sutton and that of others.....
 
Will wait and see what the day brings.
-----Original Message-----
From: michael king [mailto:mskikey at hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 4:59 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires

Well, what a couple of days it's been.

I was out of town when the excrement hit the rapidly revolving device.

North Duffy, North Holder were the worst hit areas.

I live in South Duffy - my house is safe. My thoughts go out to all affected, especially the bereaved. At one stage, when out of town on my way home, I was convinced I saw my home alight on the ABC news. In retrospect, one AV Jennings house alight looks like any other AV Jennings house alight.

I'd imagine the firestorm developed or at least was assisted along by the large pine forests which adjoin the westerly (Eucembene Drive) and northerly boundaries (Waragamba Drive; Dixon Drive) of Duffy and Holder.

I'd surmise the trajectory of this firestorm track was not only dictated by these pine forests, but then further enhanced by the inflow of winds to the conflugration, as they demanded vasts amount of oxygen.

Thanks to the brave firemen, police and ordinary cit! iz! ! ens who did such a great job in the face of overwhelmming odds.

>From: "Simon Angell"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
>Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:25:36 +1100
>
>Hi all,
>Well what a bad day here in Canberra, fortunately my location was spared
>with NW'ly winds keeping the Smoke and fires a few kms to my south. I have
>some pics from this afternoon up http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/18jan03/
>
>Also upward of 60 houses destroyed in the duffy area, and i hope fellow list
>and ASWA member Michael King is allright, as he lives in the duffy area i
>believe.
>
>SE'ly have come in, now pushing fires back on the northern edges, if they
>cant get containment lines in tonight, and fires continue to burn in a
>northerly aspect, i could be in even worse situation tomorrow.
>
>Cheers
>---------------------------------
>Simon Angell
>Canberra, ACT
>www.canberra-wx.com
>---------------------------------------------
>Proud member of the
>Australian Severe Weather Association.
>www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bussy"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 7:11 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
>
>
> > Good luck guys! Wish you all the best.
> >
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> >
> >
> > > The Suburbs next to me are on are on Evacuation alerts, and a state of
> > > emergency has been declared.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Simon Angell
> > > Canberra, ACT
> > > www.canberra-wx.com
> > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > Proud member of the
> > > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Simon Angell"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella,
> > > > Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the
> > fires
> > > > from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still
> > > > showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was
> > > from
> > > > 2 days ago though.
> > > > http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > Simon Angell
> > > > Canberra, ACT
> > > > www.canberra-wx.com
> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > Proud member of the
> > > > Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > > www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mal Ninnes"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also
> > from
> > > > > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of
> > the
> > > > ACT.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi All.
> > > > > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and
> > dp's
> > > > > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts
> > upto
> > > > > >60kms/hr at times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek.
>anyway....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here.
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up.
> > > > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution)
> > > from
> > > > > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been
> > > decent
> > > > > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can
>be
> > > > found
> > > > > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cheers
> > > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > > >Simon Angell
> > > > > >Canberra, ACT
> > > > > >www.canberra-wx.com
> > > > > >---------------------------------------------
> > > > > >Proud member of the
> > > > > >Australian Severe Weather Association.
> > > > > >www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > > > >From: "Patrick Tobin"
> > > > > >To:
> > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM
> > > > > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a
> > > warm
> > > > > >front
> > > > > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front
> > currently
> > > > > >> crossing that State.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Any comments?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Patrick
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> > > > > >>
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believed to be clean. From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:58:50 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I believe building codes need to be altered for properties adjacent to bushland... Hi John, all, Thing is properties adjacent to bushland *today* probably won't be adjacent to bushland *tomorrow* with the continual spread of housing developments. By the sound of reports on the fires around Canberra it seems that even if there were stronger building codes in force it may have not made an ounce of difference with the strength of these fires on the day. I feel that the home owner needs to be made aware of systems & technology that's available that can choose to be installed during construction or even after the house is completed & practices / precautions around the house that can greatly reduce the chance of fire damage. Insurance companies should get behind this also & offer reduced fire insurance (a price scale system?) if certain standards / fixtures are built into a home. I mean if they can offer incentives with car security, immobilisers & such... If the home owner is rewarded with incentives & lower premiums building a "fire resistant" home & insurance companies / government department end up spending less paying for the damage caused by fire then doesn't that sound like a win - win for everybody? Just my 2.2 cents (GST included) worth... ;) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Hi Phil. > > I cound not agree more strongly. Bush fires are a matter of fact, and no > amount of controlled burning will ever eliminate the risk. I believe > building codes need to be altered for properties adjacent to bushland, for > example, to disallow exposed timberwork, require steel frame construction > with metal facias, have modified guttering with fire proof roof construction > and possibly metal shutters installed on windows facing bushland. Moreover, > council bylaws should enforce certain vegetation constraints and fire break > distances and easy public access between buildings and bushland, with > perhaps some give & take, e.g., 200m of cleared parkland removes the need > for shutters, etc. Also some sort of additional high capacity water service > should be mandated on the bushland side of properties to be installed when > the estates are developed to assist fire fighting, with even perhaps some > automatic heat triggered sprinkler system to kill off embers. > > At the end of the day, the actual cost to the homeowner should be fairly > minimal with a large part of the responsibility being carried by the > authorities. Mostly it is just a case of sensible town planning IMHO. > > John. > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Bagust > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:48 AM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > Hi all > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply > bound to happen. > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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When a fire approached you flick the switch and a heap of sprinklers activate all over his house. Apparently about 9 grand to get up and running. Not much help to those who lost their homes etc but may be a help somewhere down the line. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Bagust" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Hi all > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply > bound to happen. > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > Phil > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:54 AM 20/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi guys > >I have a request please ...... did anyone take notice of the Full Moon on >Saturday January 18 ?? >I would really love some feedback if you did, because what I saw here in >SE Queensland, was MOST EXTRAORDINARY !!!!!!! No, but I got some of the orange Sun this morning. 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Don't mean by anyone's imagination to say the wrong thing here but, Ash Wednesday 1400 homes lost and 77 people dies across Vic and SA that day. Is that correct?
 
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A few photos of the conditions in Melbourne today thanks to Chris Daley and another photographer.........
 
 
Horrendous!!
 
Cheers,
 
Jane

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Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code

Sha & all,
 
I've been taking photos all day & I'll upload a whole bunch of images from just after dawn onwards.  They aren't kidding - work is 3km NE of the CBD and at 7.30am you had to look hard to find the buildings. It's beginning to thin out somewhat atm.
 
Pics will be up tonight after I've finished 'firesafing' the house in preparation for the next seriously hot weather next weekend.
 
PS: links to current fire news in NSW, Victoria & the Vic alpine areas are linked from the Current Victorian & Australian Conditions page at www.stormchasers.au.com/current.htm
 
Jane
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----- Original Message -----
From: Sha
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 1:44
Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code

I have seen terms such as Fair, cloudy, sunny and many, many more - but this is the first time I have seen the term "Smoke" listed as a weather condition !!  This is from a Yahoo weather alert.

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Sha
 
 
Melbourne Today
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Currently:
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Smoke		 Hi: 35
Lo: 16
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 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:23:31 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne sunrise and sunset photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I've uploaded some of my photos from today's sunrise. Not to be outdone, Melbourne turned on a brilliant sunset as well! Take a look at http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html I've finally got some material to start my weather photo gallery. 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Cough cough. :-) You're welcome to put my name to my photos. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:40:31 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The page description now reads....... A few photos of the conditions in Melbourne today thanks to Chris Daley, Tony Langdon and another photographer......... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/20_01_03.htm>http://www.stormchasers.au.c om/20_01_03.htm Horrendous!! -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne weather code > At 08:27 PM 20/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >A few photos of the conditions in Melbourne today thanks to Chris Daley > >and another photographer......... > > > >http://www.stormchasers.au .com/20_01_03.htm > > > >Horrendous!! > > Cough cough. :-) You're welcome to put my name to my photos. :) > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: 2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:11:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This area is certainly being bombarded with the elements !! This is a very large quake ! Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:00 PM Subject: 2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E 2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E This information is provided by the USGS National Earthquake Information Center. (Address problems to: sedas at ghtmail.cr.usgs.gov) These parameters are preliminary and subject to revision. A magnitude 7.5 earthquake IN THE SOLOMON ISLANDS has occurred at: 10.42S 160.70E Depth 33km Mon Jan 20 08:43:06 2003 UTC Time: Universal Time (UTC) Mon Jan 20 08:43:06 2003 Time Near Epicenter Mon Jan 20 19:43:06 2003 Eastern Standard Time (EST) Mon Jan 20 03:43:06 2003 Central Standard Time (CST) Mon Jan 20 02:43:06 2003 Mountain Standard Time (MST) Mon Jan 20 01:43:06 2003 Pacific Standard Time (PST) Mon Jan 20 00:43:06 2003 Alaska Standard Time (AST) Sun Jan 19 23:43:06 2003 Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sun Jan 19 22:43:06 2003 Location with respect to nearby cities: 85 miles (135 km) SE of HONIARA, Solomon Islands (pop 50,000) 85 miles (135 km) W of Kira Kira, Solomon Islands (pop 2,000) 115 miles (185 km) S of Auki, Solomon Islands 1280 miles (2055 km) NNE of Brisbane, Australia Flinn-Engdahl Region Number = 193 For the definition of Flinn-Engdahl regions, see: http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/epic/fer_explain.html . 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Not only is there a Tsunami warning, but the quake has been increased on this bulletin to 7.7 !!

Love
Sha
TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
ISSUED 20 JAN, 0934 UTC  http://www.prh.noaa.gov/pr/ptwc/wmsg

THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT
CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WASHINGTON, BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND ALASKA.

. . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . .

A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR:
  NAURU, NEW CALEDONIA, KOSRAE, POHNPEI, MARSHALL IS., FIJI, CHUUK 

A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR:
  SAMOA, NEW ZEALAND, AMERICAN SAMOA, GUAM, WAKE IS., N. MARIANAS, 
  YAP, BELAU, MARCUS IS., JOHNSTON IS., KIRIBATI, COOK ISLANDS, 
  MIDWAY IS. 

FOR OTHER AREAS IN THE PACIFIC, THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY.

AN EARTHQUAKE, PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE 7.7, OCCURRED 20 JAN, 0843 UTC.
COORDINATES:  LATITUDE 10.5 SOUTH,  LONGITUDE 160.9 EAST
VICINITY:  SOLOMON ISLANDS.

EVALUATION: IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT A TSUNAMI WAS GENERATED.
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EVALUATION.

ESTIMATED TIMES OF INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL AT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE
WARNING AND WATCH AREAS ARE:

 NAURU            NAURU           1043Z 20 JAN
 NEW CALEDONIA    NOUMEA          1100Z 20 JAN
 KOSRAE           KOSRAE IS.      1128Z 20 JAN
 POHNPEI          POHNPEI IS.     1156Z 20 JAN
 MARSHALL IS.     KWAJALEIN       1201Z 20 JAN
                  MAJURO          1201Z 20 JAN
                  ENIWETOK        1221Z 20 JAN
 FIJI             SUVA            1202Z 20 JAN
 CHUUK            CHUUK IS.       1209Z 20 JAN
 SAMOA            APIA            1300Z 20 JAN
 NEW ZEALAND      NORTH CAPE      1307Z 20 JAN
                  GISBORNE        1349Z 20 JAN
                  AUCKLAND(W)     1358Z 20 JAN
                  EAST CAPE       1405Z 20 JAN
                  AUCKLAND(E)     1432Z 20 JAN
                  NEW PLYMOUTH    1436Z 20 JAN
                  MILFORD SOUND   1442Z 20 JAN
                  NAPIER          1443Z 20 JAN
                  WELLINGTON      1502Z 20 JAN
                  WESTPORT        1511Z 20 JAN
 AMERICAN SAMOA   PAGO PAGO       1310Z 20 JAN
 GUAM             GUAM            1320Z 20 JAN
 WAKE IS.         WAKE IS.        1325Z 20 JAN
 N. MARIANAS      SAIPAN          1326Z 20 JAN
 YAP              YAP IS.         1334Z 20 JAN
 BELAU            MALAKAL         1348Z 20 JAN
 MARCUS IS.       MARCUS IS       1413Z 20 JAN
 JOHNSTON IS.     JOHNSTON IS.    1432Z 20 JAN
 KIRIBATI         CHRISTMAS IS.   1448Z 20 JAN
 COOK ISLANDS     RAROTONGA       1450Z 20 JAN
 MIDWAY IS.       MIDWAY IS.      1520Z 20 JAN

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 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 22:00:17 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fw: 2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
what would the tidal wave situation be sha?
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Monday, 20 January 2003 9:52:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Fw: 2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E
 
This area is certainly being bombarded with the elements !! This is a very
large quake !

Love
Sha


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2003/01/20 08:43 M 7.5 SOLOMON ISLANDS Z= 33km 10.42S 160.70E

This information is provided by the USGS
National Earthquake Information Center.
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These parameters are preliminary and subject to revision.

A magnitude 7.5 earthquake IN THE SOLOMON ISLANDS has occurred at:
10.42S 160.70E Depth 33km Mon Jan 20 08:43:06 2003 UTC

Time: Universal Time (UTC) Mon Jan 20 08:43:06 2003
Time Near Epicenter Mon Jan 20 19:43:06 2003
Eastern Standard Time (EST) Mon Jan 20 03:43:06 2003
Central Standard Time (CST) Mon Jan 20 02:43:06 2003
Mountain Standard Time (MST) Mon Jan 20 01:43:06 2003
Pacific Standard Time (PST) Mon Jan 20 00:43:06 2003
Alaska Standard Time (AST) Sun Jan 19 23:43:06 2003
Hawaii Standard Time (HST) Sun Jan 19 22:43:06 2003

Location with respect to nearby cities:
85 miles (135 km) SE of HONIARA, Solomon Islands (pop 50,000)
85 miles (135 km) W of Kira Kira, Solomon Islands (pop 2,000)
115 miles (185 km) S of Auki, Solomon Islands
1280 miles (2055 km) NNE of Brisbane, Australia

Flinn-Engdahl Region Number = 193
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP74.gif: 00000001,7036c61c,00000000,00000000 From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:15:07 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Canberra: a bit of rain may come on January 28th and again on February 19th but methinks no significant rain will fall there before and until the New moon of 31st of March. Then they will get a lot within 4 days. Just a lunar opinion for what it's worth. Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > I have heard of a bloke who had an underground tank with a ball on it so it > continually remained full, and a pump of its own. When a fire approached you > flick the switch and a heap of sprinklers activate all over his house. > Apparently about 9 grand to get up and running. > Not much help to those who lost their homes etc but may be a help somewhere > down the line. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Bagust" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > Hi all > > > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El > Nino > > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is > simply > > bound to happen. > > > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these > situations, > > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as > a > > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > > > Phil > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.240.166] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:45:45 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jan 2003 12:45:46.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA121ED0:01C2C081] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi John and Phil, Having witnessed the events of Saturday from Gilmore on the Eastern side of the Tuggernong Valley I agree with most of what you wrote, unfortunately nothing will happen when the houses are rebuilt.I am worried that we do not educate people adequately at school level about the natural hazards in Australia nor do we use the media to push the message.(I am a teacher!) Gavin O'Brien Canberra. >From: "John Woodbridge" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires >Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:51:03 +1000 > >Hi Phil. > >I cound not agree more strongly. Bush fires are a matter of fact, and no >amount of controlled burning will ever eliminate the risk. I believe >building codes need to be altered for properties adjacent to bushland, for >example, to disallow exposed timberwork, require steel frame construction >with metal facias, have modified guttering with fire proof roof >construction >and possibly metal shutters installed on windows facing bushland. >Moreover, >council bylaws should enforce certain vegetation constraints and fire break >distances and easy public access between buildings and bushland, with >perhaps some give & take, e.g., 200m of cleared parkland removes the need >for shutters, etc. Also some sort of additional high capacity water >service >should be mandated on the bushland side of properties to be installed when >the estates are developed to assist fire fighting, with even perhaps some >automatic heat triggered sprinkler system to kill off embers. > >At the end of the day, the actual cost to the homeowner should be fairly >minimal with a large part of the responsibility being carried by the >authorities. Mostly it is just a case of sensible town planning IMHO. > >John. > >snip > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Phil Bagust >Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:48 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > >Hi all > >Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El Nino >conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is simply >bound to happen. > >My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these situations, >and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as a >nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses >more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > >Phil > >Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au >- - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." 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Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne sunrise and sunset photos Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:02:36 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Especially spectacular sunset Tony !! Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne sunrise and sunset photos I've uploaded some of my photos from today's sunrise. Not to be outdone, Melbourne turned on a brilliant sunset as well! Take a look at http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html I've finally got some material to start my weather photo gallery. Enjoy. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 21:23:31 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Melbourne sunrise and sunset photos > I've uploaded some of my photos from today's sunrise. Not to be > outdone, > Melbourne turned on a brilliant sunset as well! Take a look at > > http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html > > I've finally got some material to start my weather photo gallery. > Enjoy. :) > > > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:05:00 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon ! Indeed tonights sunset was every bit as spectacular as the bushfire moon, unfortunately i was working so no pix :(
Ive just got home to an overcast sky and a very heavy smell of smoke in the air.. cannot even see the moon period right now!

Speaking of Saturday night, half the crew i work with asked me all about it, they were just as stunned and wont ever forget it, as myself wont either.



Regards
Dale



on 20/01/2003 13:26, Sha at shambhala at hotkey.net.au wrote:

Thanks so much for your great feedback Carl ..... and all.
As others have said, it was an incredible sight ... not to be forgotten.

Yes, the sunset the previous day was something I had failed to mention, but from about mid afternoon here, the sky was an eerie, dull colour that had an amazing orange glow about it, through the haze.  The sunset was very dramatically red, but my camera was not able to do it justice in the dim light.
love
Sha
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From: Carl Smith <mailto:carls at qldnet.com.au>  
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Orange Moon !

Hi Sha and All.

It was the smoke plume from the SE Australian fires blowing out over the Tasman and curving back over the coast in SE Qld and was visible in some satpics as one was shown on one of the TV News bulletins commenting on the orange moon (cannot remember which channel it was now though!). It came in over the Gold Coast off the Tasman during the afternoon (18th) and by 4pm had dulled the Sun to an orange disk which made the landscape quite hellish in appearance. The deep-orange sunset was quite a sight!

During the 19th it thinned to a brownish-grey haze but remained in the sky much of the day and in the late afternoon it moved rapidly offshore, and was still visible from the Gold Coast near the E horizon a little while before sunset.

Shortly after the Moon came up it was white (cannot see right down to the E horizon from here) so the smoke had well and truly cleared away.

Regards,
Carl.


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 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 05:24:50 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com About to fly up to Hotham. Keep your thoughts pointing in a North Easterly direction if you are in Vic :) James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Monday, 20 January 2003 7:56 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Sorry Got to be brief- yes very smokey here in melb, smoke is from fires to NE. Mt. Hotham and Harrietville are under direct threat, and may have already been hit. Sentinel maps from last night tend to suggest containment lines held, but thick smoke can obscure some of the sat data. 10am: Satellite image from yesterday http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/production/single.cgi?2003019/crefl1_ 143.A2003019000000-2003019000459.2km.jpg Media is ignoring the situation up there and focusing on the aftermath of the Canberra tragedy. However the situation is critical, and today will be the most important day. With some 200 homes at Hotham (maybe more?), about the same amount in Harrietville and another 100 at Dinner Plain, at serious risk. More regular updates on our web-site below. James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of James Holbeach Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 12:28 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Vic Alpine Fires (Hotham, Falls and Dinner Plain) Hi all . . . sorry have been a bit busy today as you can imagine. Current fire situation at hotham is still serious but looks slightly better. I was supposed to leave for Hotham at 5pm today, but they closed the roads and are not allowing anyone (including property owners) up the mountain. SO I'm stuck in Melbourne with fingers crossed. I have started an information web-page (for the Hotham fires) at http://www.trapdoor.com.au Which includes links to many of the relevant sites on the web, and some photos. Just click on the "Important Information" link at the top of the page. Dinner Plain is now also of concern to the fire fighters. Some spot fires have started at Falls Creek as well. I'll try and keep you informed, but I'll be posting regular updates on the page above, as I get the information. Cheers James James Holbeach -------------------------------- Trapdoor Ski Club Mt. Hotham, Australia ph. 0417 553 757 http://www.trapdoor.com.au -------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 11:56 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires Yep, has been most of the day, the smoke plumes from the brindabella, Bendora and Kosciuszko Np fires, have decreased a whole lot, but the fires from Stockyard spur and Gingera fires (which are now joined) are still showing great on the radar. a map of the fires can be found below, was from 2 days ago though. http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/media_map_a3.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mal Ninnes" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: ACT fires > Captains Flat radar appears to be picking up the smoke plumes also from > fires in Kosciuszko National Park and also another fire just west of the ACT. > > > > At 09:53 PM 1/17/03 +1100, you wrote: > >Hi All. > >Some very bad fire weather here today with temps reaching 36C and dp's > >remaining near 7C. NW'ly winds kicked up from about 1pm with gusts upto > >60kms/hr at times. > > > >Tomorrow looks to be similar, but with 38C forecast, eeek. anyway.... > > > >Some pictures from Sunset today are here. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/17jan03/ > > > >Also some pics from Wednesday night can be seen below > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0024.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0025.jpg > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/Dcp_0026.jpg > > > >And the pics from the 8th are still up. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/pics/08jan03/ > > > >I have been collecting the MODIS satellite images (250m resolution) from > >http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/realtime/ but there hasn't been decent > >ones since the 13 (till today - which im yet to download) they can be found > >here for the time being www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/fires/ > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Patrick Tobin" > >To: > >Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:30 PM > >Subject: aus-wx: Warm front? > > > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> Just reviewing today's satellite animations makes me think that a warm > >front > >> has developed over Victoria ahead of the trough/cold front currently > >> crossing that State. > >> > >> Any comments? > >> > >> Patrick > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:39:39 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: . . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Shit eh......first of its type I have seen so close to home. One question for the people, if it occurred NE from Aus, wouldn't Aus be vulnerable as well??

At 10:22 PM 1/20/2003, you wrote:
Not only is there a Tsunami warning, but the quake has been increased on this bulletin to 7.7 !!

Love
Sha

TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
ISSUED 20 JAN, 0934 UTC 
http://www.prh.noaa.gov/pr/ptwc/wmsg

THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE PACIFIC BASIN EXCEPT
CALIFORNIA, OREGON, WASHINGTON, BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND ALASKA.

. . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . .

A TSUNAMI WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR:
  NAURU, NEW CALEDONIA, KOSRAE, POHNPEI, MARSHALL IS., FIJI, CHUUK 

A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR:
  SAMOA, NEW ZEALAND, AMERICAN SAMOA, GUAM, WAKE IS., N. MARIANAS, 
  YAP, BELAU, MARCUS IS., JOHNSTON IS., KIRIBATI, COOK ISLANDS, 
  MIDWAY IS. 

FOR OTHER AREAS IN THE PACIFIC, THIS MESSAGE IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY.

AN EARTHQUAKE, PRELIMINARY MAGNITUDE 7.7, OCCURRED 20 JAN, 0843 UTC.
COORDINATES:  LATITUDE 10.5 SOUTH,  LONGITUDE 160.9 EAST
VICINITY:  SOLOMON ISLANDS.

EVALUATION: IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT A TSUNAMI WAS GENERATED.
THIS WARNING AND WATCH ARE BASED ONLY ON EARTHQUAKE
EVALUATION.

ESTIMATED TIMES OF INITIAL WAVE ARRIVAL AT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE
WARNING AND WATCH AREAS ARE:

 NAURU           
NAURU           1043Z
20 JAN
 NEW CALEDONIA   
NOUMEA          1100Z 20
JAN
 KOSRAE          
KOSRAE IS.      1128Z 20 JAN
 POHNPEI         
POHNPEI IS.     1156Z 20 JAN
 MARSHALL IS.    
KWAJALEIN       1201Z 20 JAN
                 
MAJURO          1201Z 20
JAN
                 
ENIWETOK        1221Z 20 JAN
 FIJI            
SUVA           
1202Z 20 JAN
 CHUUK           
CHUUK IS.       1209Z 20 JAN
 SAMOA           
APIA           
1300Z 20 JAN
 NEW ZEALAND      NORTH
CAPE      1307Z 20 JAN
                 
GISBORNE        1349Z 20 JAN
                 
AUCKLAND(W)     1358Z 20 JAN
                 
EAST CAPE       1405Z 20 JAN
                 
AUCKLAND(E)     1432Z 20 JAN
                 
NEW PLYMOUTH    1436Z 20 JAN
                 
MILFORD SOUND   1442Z 20 JAN
                 
NAPIER          1443Z 20
JAN
                 
WELLINGTON      1502Z 20 JAN
                 
WESTPORT        1511Z 20 JAN
 AMERICAN SAMOA   PAGO
PAGO       1310Z 20 JAN
 GUAM            
GUAM           
1320Z 20 JAN
 WAKE IS.         WAKE
IS.        1325Z 20 JAN
 N. MARIANAS     
SAIPAN          1326Z 20
JAN
 YAP             
YAP IS.         1334Z 20 JAN
 BELAU           
MALAKAL         1348Z 20 JAN
 MARCUS IS.       MARCUS
IS       1413Z 20 JAN
 JOHNSTON IS.     JOHNSTON IS.   
1432Z 20 JAN
 KIRIBATI         CHRISTMAS
IS.   1448Z 20 JAN
 COOK ISLANDS    
RAROTONGA       1450Z 20 JAN
 MIDWAY IS.       MIDWAY
IS.      1520Z 20 JAN

BULLETINS WILL BE ISSUED HOURLY OR SOONER IF CONDITIONS WARRANT.
THE TSUNAMI WARNING WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

RECIPIENTS OF THIS MESSAGE LOCATED IN CALIFORNIA, OREGON,
WASHINGTON, BRITISH COLUMBIA, AND ALASKA SHOULD REFER ONLY
TO ALASKA TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER MESSAGES FOR INFORMATION
ABOUT ANY TSUNAMI THREAT IN THOSE AREAS.


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 From: David Findlay To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: . . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:46:41 +1000 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam (whitelisted), SpamAssassin () Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 05:39 am, Glen O'Riley wrote this piece of wisdom: > Shit eh......first of its type I have seen so close to home. One question > for the people, if it occurred NE from Aus, wouldn't Aus be vulnerable as > well?? We're sheilded from the Tsunami by all the islands and the reef. David - -- If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+LG5GZOfFgbBAbXARAqzCAJ0aWB0+5ZG1Ph0kNmCggPm8/mR/hQCeMgY7 THHFZtbjELzbdGs8P8XbRdY= =USoN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Margaret" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: . . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 08:08:13 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com reminds me of some hippy friends that were going to move out west after watching some doom show about end of the world. this woman on show said brisbane will be wiped out by a tidal wave. i had to explain to the hippies, it would have to be a very big tidal wave to go over straddie and moreton island. cool though to hear about one around our area though. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Findlay" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: . . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 05:39 am, Glen O'Riley wrote this piece of wisdom: > > Shit eh......first of its type I have seen so close to home. One question > > for the people, if it occurred NE from Aus, wouldn't Aus be vulnerable as > > well?? > > We're sheilded from the Tsunami by all the islands and the reef. > > David > > - -- > If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach > them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+LG5GZOfFgbBAbXARAqzCAJ0aWB0+5ZG1Ph0kNmCggPm8/mR/hQCeMgY7 > THHFZtbjELzbdGs8P8XbRdY= > =USoN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:37:55 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite a lot of research work has been done on the question of barrier vegetation, and I can recommend a book "Bushfire" by Ted Foster (Reed, 1976) as one of the most thorough and scholarly analyses of Australian Bushfires -- if you can find it. He makes these points: 1. Removal of all trees and shrubs from around houses is a no-no -- it allows for increased windspeeds, fire intensity and rate of spread. 2. Trees should be spaced so there's no continuous canopy or line of flammable trees from bushland to house. Smooth barked eucalypts and deciduous hardwoods are best 3. No trees should overhang the roof or eaves 4. Crown fires are maintained by heat coming from ground-fire below. Deciduous trees and shrubs are preferable because they drop leaves in autumn, allowing for one big winter clean-up to remove flammable material. Evergreens drop leaves all year round, so there will nearly always be ground leaf litter. Elimination of dried ground debris is paramount. 5. Shrubs are more important than trees. Avoid clumping. Avoid those with oil-bearing leaves and papery bark, especially natives. Best bet is isolated plantings of cassia, acacia, callistemon, cotoneaster and pyracontha. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John > Woodbridge > Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 05:22 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > > Hi, > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly > some types > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for > planting in > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of > Canberra may > yield some interesting data on this also. > > John. > >snip > ... Falling trees can also be a big > problem so limit what type and how many around the house for > shade. As nice > as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. > ... > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fire Season Summaries website Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:57:23 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
That's a *very* useful link, Sha. Thanks very much.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Sha
Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 04:35
To: Aussie Weather
Subject: aus-wx: Fire Season Summaries website

You guys may already be aware of this site, but if not, it is a great resource for Fire Events.
 

Current & Archived Significant Global Fire Events
and Fire Season Summaries

http://www.fire.uni-freiburg.de/current/globalfire.htm#Fire%20Season%20Summaries

Love Sha


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 From: "Ken Ring" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:24:02 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For Canberra, a bit of rain may come on January 28th and again on February 19th but methinks no significant rain will fall there before and until the New moon of 31st of March. Then they should get a lot within 4 days. Just a lunar opinion for what it's worth. Ken www.predictweather.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Hi Robyn, > > We end up paying... Apparently I heard through the grapevine that there > were suggestions to increase premiums of those houses living in 'higher > risk areas". Now does anyone have more accurate and factual up to date > information on this issue? Second hand information is not one ot trust. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 02:22 PM 20/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >A big 'yes' to both. We have strict codes in the northern coastal areas to > >protect houses from cyclones, so why don't we have codes to protect houses > >from bushfires in such a fire-prone country? We all end up paying for > >bushfires, no matter where we live. The cost of fire-trucks and helicopters, > >as well as fire relief for victims come from 'the government', (which means > >our taxes pay for it.) > > > >Robyn > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Phil Bagust" > >To: > >Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:47 AM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > > > > Hi all > > > > > > Now is not the time to start recriminations, it seems to me that in El > >Nino > > > conditions like this something like what has unfolded in Canberra is > >simply > > > bound to happen. > > > > > > My question is this - since the fires can't be stopped in these > >situations, > > > and since we love living near and in the bush, should we, collectively as > >a > > > nation, be looking at our building codes? Is there a way to make houses > > > more fire resistant without making them unafordable? > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > Phil'Paisley'Bagust: paisley2 at chariot.net.au: Philip.Bagust at unisa.edu.au > > > - - - - - - - 'The Playpen' at www.chariot.net.au/~paisley2 - - - - - - - > > > "...I'd wring your neck, if you had one..." Noel Coward > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ XAntiVirus: This e-mail has been scanned for viruses via the Connexus Internet Service From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:29:15 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier, Thanks for this, I shall look to obtain a copy. Regrettably I find that smooth barked Eucalypts are one of the worst producers of litter and combustible ground material around. Apart from the year round continual drop of dead leaves and copious dead twigs and branches, the annual bark drop is a menace. (I have spotted gums, carbeens and blue gums on my property, sigh). Interestingly, there are literally thousands of Australian native rainforest tree species, most of which are not deciduous but which, unlike Eucalypts, drop very little litter at all and maintain a dense non-combustible crown. The RFS chappy on TV mentioned that this significantly helps to block the radiant heat. My recommendation for a deciduous native rainforest tree would be Red Cedar (Toona australis), which is a very fast growing ornamental, does not drop bark or branches, has relatively smooth non combustible bark, and has a single annual leaf drop in mid-winter. Like most rainforest species the leaves are soft and decompose rapidly on the ground (unlike Eucalypts, wattles and other sclerophyllus species where it can build up year after year). Also rather surprisingly, many rainforest species are actually more drought tolerant than many Eucalypts. If anyone would like a list of proven drought tolerant low litter species, please email me off list. John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Laurier Williams Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:38 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Quite a lot of research work has been done on the question of barrier vegetation, and I can recommend a book "Bushfire" by Ted Foster (Reed, 1976) as one of the most thorough and scholarly analyses of Australian Bushfires -- if you can find it. He makes these points: 1. Removal of all trees and shrubs from around houses is a no-no -- it allows for increased windspeeds, fire intensity and rate of spread. 2. Trees should be spaced so there's no continuous canopy or line of flammable trees from bushland to house. Smooth barked eucalypts and deciduous hardwoods are best 3. No trees should overhang the roof or eaves 4. Crown fires are maintained by heat coming from ground-fire below. Deciduous trees and shrubs are preferable because they drop leaves in autumn, allowing for one big winter clean-up to remove flammable material. Evergreens drop leaves all year round, so there will nearly always be ground leaf litter. Elimination of dried ground debris is paramount. 5. Shrubs are more important than trees. Avoid clumping. Avoid those with oil-bearing leaves and papery bark, especially natives. Best bet is isolated plantings of cassia, acacia, callistemon, cotoneaster and pyracontha. Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John > Woodbridge > Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 05:22 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > > Hi, > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly > some types > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for > planting in > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of > Canberra may > yield some interesting data on this also. > > John. > >snip > ... Falling trees can also be a big > problem so limit what type and how many around the house for > shade. As nice > as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. > ... > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 2002-12-17 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: "Weather" Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:48:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just a quick note  ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont think this will come to much according to the radar.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:02:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Been quite a bit of thunder here at Seven Hills (storm moving from Penrith to Blacktown but looks to have fizzled with another developing to its north ..maybe the Beacon Hill one).
Only a few spits of rain here but there would have been quite heavy showers further northwest. No squalls. Temperature down to 31 degrees.
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To: Weather
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY

Just a quick note  ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont think this will come to much according to the radar.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:08:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Melbourne sunrise and sunset photos Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:08 PM 20/01/2003 +0800, you wrote: >Wow! Great photos there Tony! Thanks guys for the feedback. Hope to contribute more as WX arrives (Severe SDS alert down here :-/). 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:10:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It seems to have stalled here now as well ... still to the WNW of us at the moment .... cant see any lightning ... a very weak storm I think.
 
Pete 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY

Been quite a bit of thunder here at Seven Hills (storm moving from Penrith to Blacktown but looks to have fizzled with another developing to its north ..maybe the Beacon Hill one).
Only a few spits of rain here but there would have been quite heavy showers further northwest. No squalls. Temperature down to 31 degrees.
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To: Weather
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY

Just a quick note  ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont think this will come to much according to the radar.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:10:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:45 PM 20/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Having witnessed the events of Saturday from Gilmore on the Eastern side >of the Tuggernong Valley I agree with most of what you wrote, >unfortunately nothing will happen when the houses are rebuilt.I am worried >that we do not educate people adequately at school level about the natural >hazards in Australia nor do we use the media to push the message.(I am a >teacher!) Unfortunately, a lot of people never learn, and the same mistakes are made over again, like letting bushland come too close to housing, etc. I try and keep myself aware of various risks, something I have both family history and mu own time in the CFA to thank for. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: NE ranges alight Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:22:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A fire has raced across the NE ranges today after starting at Eldorado. The speed of this fire through the dense bush has been nothing short of frightening. I'm approx 40 K's from the fires and can quite easily see the flames under the clouds of smoke. Many towns are now on high alert. Beechworth, Stanley and many others are included in the list at present.
On a sad note a few calls were made to the local brigades which resulted in a witch hunt.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 X-Originating-IP: [203.220.168.110] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 19:38:41 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 08:38:41.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[808AFC40:01C2C128] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Laurier, John et al, I've been watching this thread with both interest and trepidation. On the one hand there is the point of view that things could be done to have prevented the Canberra (and probable NE Vic) disasters, and there is the point of view that it is a natural occurrence in eucalyptus forests....(not that the two are mutually exclusive!) A number of thoughts occur to me (in no particular order): * If we wish to live in close proximity to the Australian bush (as many do) we should realise that fires are going to happen. (I haven't done the numbers but I'm willing to bet that more people are killed by lightning in any given year than by bushfires). However, prudent preparations would seem sensible...i.e. having a fire plan, an escape route, or something fire-proof to keep valuables in would seem only sensible. * John's idea of planting less combustible (rainforest type) plants is estimable...however...most people that wish to live amongst rainforest type plants move to areas where those plants are plentiful...(if you want to live near the Australian "bush"...eliminating the "bush" seems self-defeating...) * The idea of making homes "fire-proof" has surfaced a bit. This is also an idea with great merit. I'm torn between wondering how much extra homes would cost and whether even with expensive concrete bunkers those houses would survive a "crowning" type fire such as Canberra or Ash Wednesday. (I'm sure people here understand that within extremely hot fires, steel actually burns as well as wood.) * Getting rid of National Parks has surfaced just today on the radio. Blaming the forest for fires is akin to blaming the ocean for tsunamis. Getting people more fire-aware has always got to be a better (and easier) idea. * Complacency. OK, this crops up from time to time with good reason. In cyclone-prone (tornado-prone in the US) areas complacency can be a problem. Again, it boils down to having a plan (even if - god-willing - you never have to put it into action). Many people live in fire-prone areas (even areas that have suffered devastating bushfires previously!) and still think "It won't happen here." Not sure about the stats here, but I'll punt fires take more property/livestock than cyclones here in any given year. Okay...so where am I going here? Basically, hindsight is/was/always has been 20/20. People need to realise that if you *choose* to live in proximity to the great Australian bush then you need to understand the vagaries of such. Is there a chance a fire will come through? What routes are available to escape? Can I do something to minimise the *potential* for total destruction? The Canberra fires will inevitably be used as a political football (sad but true)...blame is not the name of the game...education is... Kevin from Wycheproof. (Who thankfully has NEVER had to go through the trauma of a major bushfire and chooses not to live near a forest, but loves the bush...) P.S. Almost as inevitable will be the push for increased insuration costs for people who live in proximity to the bush - while a knee-jerk reaction may well be, "Yes! They choose to live there!" - a more reasoned approach may be to charge those who do nothing to mitigate potential damage a higher premium and leave those who DO understand and act on the dangers alone.... My 22c worth anyway... >From: "John Woodbridge" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:29:15 +1000 > >Hi Laurier, > >Thanks for this, I shall look to obtain a copy. Regrettably I find that >smooth barked Eucalypts are one of the worst producers of litter and >combustible ground material around. Apart from the year round continual >drop of dead leaves and copious dead twigs and branches, the annual bark >drop is a menace. (I have spotted gums, carbeens and blue gums on my >property, sigh). > >Interestingly, there are literally thousands of Australian native >rainforest >tree species, most of which are not deciduous but which, unlike Eucalypts, >drop very little litter at all and maintain a dense non-combustible crown. >The RFS chappy on TV mentioned that this significantly helps to block the >radiant heat. > >My recommendation for a deciduous native rainforest tree would be Red Cedar >(Toona australis), which is a very fast growing ornamental, does not drop >bark or branches, has relatively smooth non combustible bark, and has a >single annual leaf drop in mid-winter. Like most rainforest species the >leaves are soft and decompose rapidly on the ground (unlike Eucalypts, >wattles and other sclerophyllus species where it can build up year after >year). > >Also rather surprisingly, many rainforest species are actually more drought >tolerant than many Eucalypts. If anyone would like a list of proven >drought >tolerant low litter species, please email me off list. > >John. > > >snip >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Laurier >Williams >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:38 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > >Quite a lot of research work has been done on the question of barrier >vegetation, and I can recommend a book "Bushfire" by Ted Foster (Reed, >1976) >as one of the most thorough and scholarly analyses of Australian >Bushfires -- if you can find it. He makes these points: > >1. Removal of all trees and shrubs from around houses is a no-no -- it >allows for increased windspeeds, fire intensity and rate of spread. >2. Trees should be spaced so there's no continuous canopy or line of >flammable trees from bushland to house. Smooth barked eucalypts and >deciduous hardwoods are best >3. No trees should overhang the roof or eaves >4. Crown fires are maintained by heat coming from ground-fire below. >Deciduous trees and shrubs are preferable because they drop leaves in >autumn, allowing for one big winter clean-up to remove flammable material. >Evergreens drop leaves all year round, so there will nearly always be >ground >leaf litter. Elimination of dried ground debris is paramount. >5. Shrubs are more important than trees. Avoid clumping. Avoid those with >oil-bearing leaves and papery bark, especially natives. Best bet is >isolated >plantings of cassia, acacia, callistemon, cotoneaster and pyracontha. > >Laurier > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John > > Woodbridge > > Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 05:22 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire >Service > > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest >species > > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly > > some types > > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, >paper > > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. >On > > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for > > planting in > > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of > > Canberra may > > yield some interesting data on this also. > > > > John. > > >snip > > ... Falling trees can also be a big > > problem so limit what type and how many around the house for > > shade. As nice > > as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. > > ... > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 2002-12-17 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:00:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just looked at the Radar and it appears that there is heavy rain in the vicinity of Mt. White.  Hope that fire goes out and our smoke cover at Mona Vale goes away.  We also had some thunder and a few raindrops and a cricket ball from next door land on the roof.
 
Judy
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Just a quick note  ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont think this will come to much according to the radar.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
 From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:32:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com David, Phil and Gavin, Thanks for your input about Cyclone Ami. Our friends still haven't had any news from there, but as they say no news is good news. Judy. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:32:36 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Yep .. looks like the rain in the Mt White area has moved across from the Putty area (which is where it seems the storm built) .. a cricket ball sound on your roof is always a chilling sound when your mind turns to storms ... :-)
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY

Just looked at the Radar and it appears that there is heavy rain in the vicinity of Mt. White.  Hope that fire goes out and our smoke cover at Mona Vale goes away.  We also had some thunder and a few raindrops and a cricket ball from next door land on the roof.
 
Judy
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY

Just a quick note  ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont think this will come to much according to the radar.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
 X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:35:14 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Crown fires are started by ground heat but once going they move WELL ahead of the ground fire. At 10:37 AM 1/21/2003, you wrote: >Quite a lot of research work has been done on the question of barrier >vegetation, and I can recommend a book "Bushfire" by Ted Foster (Reed, 1976) >as one of the most thorough and scholarly analyses of Australian >Bushfires -- if you can find it. He makes these points: > >1. Removal of all trees and shrubs from around houses is a no-no -- it >allows for increased windspeeds, fire intensity and rate of spread. >2. Trees should be spaced so there's no continuous canopy or line of >flammable trees from bushland to house. Smooth barked eucalypts and >deciduous hardwoods are best >3. No trees should overhang the roof or eaves >4. Crown fires are maintained by heat coming from ground-fire below. >Deciduous trees and shrubs are preferable because they drop leaves in >autumn, allowing for one big winter clean-up to remove flammable material. >Evergreens drop leaves all year round, so there will nearly always be ground >leaf litter. Elimination of dried ground debris is paramount. >5. Shrubs are more important than trees. Avoid clumping. Avoid those with >oil-bearing leaves and papery bark, especially natives. Best bet is isolated >plantings of cassia, acacia, callistemon, cotoneaster and pyracontha. > >Laurier > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of John > > Woodbridge > > Sent: Monday, 20 January, 2003 05:22 > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: fires and heat > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The issue of trees is an interesting one. I noticed a Rural Fire Service > > chief on TV a few weeks back advocating the planting of rainforest species > > between bushland and houses as a preventative measure. Certainly > > some types > > of trees contain flammable resins and oils (e.g., pines, eucalypts, paper > > barks, etc), whereas many others do not. In the extreme heat of a major > > fire this may be of little value as the heat is able to dessicate all > > moisture from greenery almost instantly, and what's left always burns. On > > the other hand, for less intense fires, a belt of figs, palms, cedars, > > blackbean, etc., may provide a nicely attractive barrier zone. > > > > I wonder if any study has been done on the fire resistance of various > > species? Such a study may yield a list of suitable species for > > planting in > > fire sensitive suburbs. A cruise around the burnt out areas of > > Canberra may > > yield some interesting data on this also. > > > > John. > > >snip > > ... Falling trees can also be a big > > problem so limit what type and how many around the house for > > shade. As nice > > as they are, things like paperbark, pine etc burn exceptionally well. > > ... > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Just in Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:36:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just heard from my brother at the latest blaze in the NE of Vic. His words, "Looks shithouse. The whole sky is just glowing red."
 
You have to admit, these guys/gals give everything to protect us from the fires and really need congratulating.
I hope things go well.........
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE ranges alight Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:37:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
How far do you think this is from Beechworth ? Is it anywhere near Yackandandah ?
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: NE ranges alight

A fire has raced across the NE ranges today after starting at Eldorado. The speed of this fire through the dense bush has been nothing short of frightening. I'm approx 40 K's from the fires and can quite easily see the flames under the clouds of smoke. Many towns are now on high alert. Beechworth, Stanley and many others are included in the list at present.
On a sad note a few calls were made to the local brigades which resulted in a witch hunt.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:37:33 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: . . . A TSUNAMI WARNING AND WATCH ARE IN EFFECT . . Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com OK, fair enough I haven't studied them much but I would have thought one would keep going over the island and continue. I am not real up on Tsunami's but. At 08:46 AM 1/21/2003, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 05:39 am, Glen O'Riley wrote this piece of wisdom: > > Shit eh......first of its type I have seen so close to home. One question > > for the people, if it occurred NE from Aus, wouldn't Aus be vulnerable as > > well?? > >We're sheilded from the Tsunami by all the islands and the reef. > >David > >- -- >If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you >teach >them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > >iD8DBQE+LG5GZOfFgbBAbXARAqzCAJ0aWB0+5ZG1Ph0kNmCggPm8/mR/hQCeMgY7 >THHFZtbjELzbdGs8P8XbRdY= >=USoN >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew McDonald" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Just in Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:48:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 09:47:48.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[283C6F10:01C2C132] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
My uncle (fire captain from Corowa) was here this afternoon in Melbourne and was called to go home so they could send a strike team to Beechworth area.  He was last seen flying up the Hume Hwy to lead this strike team.  I'll post any news I get from him on here.
 
Regards,
 
Macca
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Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 8:37 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Just in

Just heard from my brother at the latest blaze in the NE of Vic. His words, "Looks shithouse. The whole sky is just glowing red."
 
You have to admit, these guys/gals give everything to protect us from the fires and really need congratulating.
I hope things go well.........
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Andrew McDonald" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NE ranges alight Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 20:58:14 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 09:57:57.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[9305F810:01C2C133] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
15 towns across the NE are on alert.  The TV didn't mention them all but I've heard Wodonga, Beechworth, Bright, Wandiligong, Freeburgh, German Town, Porepunkah and possibly Yankandandah.
 
Hope this helps.
 
 
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Peter Konnecke
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 8:37 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE ranges alight

How far do you think this is from Beechworth ? Is it anywhere near Yackandandah ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: NE ranges alight

A fire has raced across the NE ranges today after starting at Eldorado. The speed of this fire through the dense bush has been nothing short of frightening. I'm approx 40 K's from the fires and can quite easily see the flames under the clouds of smoke. Many towns are now on high alert. Beechworth, Stanley and many others are included in the list at present.
On a sad note a few calls were made to the local brigades which resulted in a witch hunt.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Just in Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 21:03:06 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks Macca ... I know some people holidaying in the area
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Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Just in

My uncle (fire captain from Corowa) was here this afternoon in Melbourne and was called to go home so they could send a strike team to Beechworth area.  He was last seen flying up the Hume Hwy to lead this strike team.  I'll post any news I get from him on here.
 
Regards,
 
Macca
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, 21 January 2003 8:37 PM
To: aussie-weather
Subject: aus-wx: Just in

Just heard from my brother at the latest blaze in the NE of Vic. His words, "Looks shithouse. The whole sky is just glowing red."
 
You have to admit, these guys/gals give everything to protect us from the fires and really need congratulating.
I hope things go well.........
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 X-Originating-IP: [144.139.221.32] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:23:48 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 12:23:49.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[F388E8F0:01C2C147] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Tony, We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about damage etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again and there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one well to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that at least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. Regards Gavin O'Brien SSWW Canberra A.C.T. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 22:27:05 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Below is the latest ABC report Judy ............. things are very much in turmoil in that area - what with the Cyclone Ami, now a possibility of another brewing and the large 7.5 earthquake plus another 6.5 at Tonga since that. Not where I'd like to be right now ! Love Sha ABC News Tuesday January 21, 2003 *Cyclone-hit Fijians face disease, hunger* Media reports in Fiji suggest more than a thousand families in the country's northern islands are without food because relief distribution has been delayed in the wake of last week's cyclone. Last week Cyclone Ami slammed into Fiji's northern and eastern islands leaving 14 dead and nine people missing. Weather authorities are keeping a wary eye on a tropical system building north-east of the Solomon Islands and are concerned it will develop into another cyclone. In the town of Labasa on Vanua Levu, the area worst hit by Ami, soldiers are guarding food rations at a warehouse, awaiting orders from the Disaster Management Committee before starting distribution. The *Fiji Times* newspaper says hundreds of people have no food, and doctors have warned of an outbreak of deadly diseases, including typhoid. -------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:32 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami is there any damage in REWA, Fiji David, Phil and Gavin, Thanks for your input about Cyclone Ami. Our friends still haven't had any news from there, but as they say no news is good news. Judy. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:27:37 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We were blacked out for 5.5 hours which is one of the longest being blacked out for years. And this was only a pathetic little storm bit of rain and some close lightning. One lightning got lucky I suppose. Jimmy Deguara At 06:02 PM 21/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Been quite a bit of thunder here at Seven Hills (storm moving from Penrith >to Blacktown but looks to have fizzled with another developing to its >north ..maybe the Beacon Hill one). >Only a few spits of rain here but there would have been quite heavy >showers further northwest. No squalls. Temperature down to 31 degrees. >----- Original Message ----- >From: Peter Konnecke >To: Weather >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:48 PM >Subject: aus-wx: THUNDER - BEACON HILL - SYDNEY > >Just a quick note ... I am watching the NW sky from Beacon Hill at the >moment. Theres been some nice thunder in the last 5 mins ... but I dont >think this will come to much according to the radar. > >Regards, >Peter > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.139.221.32] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE ranges alight Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 23:27:48 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jan 2003 12:27:48.0336 (UTC) FILETIME=[820AFF00:01C2C148] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Bussy, You are having a taste of the action we had on Canberra Saturday, hope that the weather remains calm. Cheers Gavin Canberra >From: "Bussy" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: "aussie-weather" >Subject: aus-wx: NE ranges alight >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:22:04 +1100 > >A fire has raced across the NE ranges today after starting at Eldorado. The >speed of this fire through the dense bush has been nothing short of >frightening. I'm approx 40 K's from the fires and can quite easily see the >flames under the clouds of smoke. Many towns are now on high alert. >Beechworth, Stanley and many others are included in the list at present. >On a sad note a few calls were made to the local brigades which resulted in >a witch hunt. > >Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:15:07 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Gavin, Yes there have been confirmed tornadoes from this fire. Of what sort is what I am trying to detemine. I think studies must be done. I hope the Bureau does write a report on it. Jimmy Deguara At 11:23 PM 21/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Thanks Tony, >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about damage >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again and >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one well >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that at >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. >Regards >Gavin O'Brien >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:34:38 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but I have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was a true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: >Thanks Tony, >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about damage >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again and >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one well >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that at >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. >Regards >Gavin O'Brien >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE ranges alight Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:46:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The whole ranges were alight, last I saw from where it started to approx Barnawartha at 10pm. The wind was quite strong and the fire could easily be seen spotting well ahead of the main fire.
Haven't heard any news this morning as yet.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: NE ranges alight

How far do you think this is from Beechworth ? Is it anywhere near Yackandandah ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 6:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: NE ranges alight

A fire has raced across the NE ranges today after starting at Eldorado. The speed of this fire through the dense bush has been nothing short of frightening. I'm approx 40 K's from the fires and can quite easily see the flames under the clouds of smoke. Many towns are now on high alert. Beechworth, Stanley and many others are included in the list at present.
On a sad note a few calls were made to the local brigades which resulted in a witch hunt.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:10:29 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I have watched a "tornado of fire" from very close up during the Gippsland bushfires of 1965. It was indeed very powerful and the winds blowing in towards it from all directions just lifted everything that wasn't tied down and even wrenched trees straight out of the ground and carried them into the pillar of fire. The noise it made was far greater than being immediately behind a jet aircraft at take-off time. The radiant heat as it passed about 250 metres away blistered all the paint on that side of the house and caused garden shrubs to explode into little balls of flame. It was one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen in my lifetime. I wrote a much longer and more detailed description of this firestorm on this list in October 2001 and still have a copy if anyone wants it. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:34:38 +1100 Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but > I > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was > a > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > >Thanks Tony, > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about > damage > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again > and > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one > well > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the > Mountains.I > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political > points > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not > have > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS > Comitte > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems > that at > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at > least > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the > Kambah - > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > >Regards > >Gavin O'Brien > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:30:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I'm not sure when I saw it (when I was young), but i've seen a fire tornado on tv before, tall column of rotating winds (red from fire) a lot bigger then a devil. The fire would have to create its own highly localised conditions to support something like this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:34 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but I > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was a > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > >Thanks Tony, > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about damage > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again and > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one well > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that at > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > >Regards > >Gavin O'Brien > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Re Cyclone Ami, Is there any damage in REWA, Fiji Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:38:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Sha,
 
Thanks for the information, it doesn't sound good.  Our friends haven't managed to find out anything as yet due to the extremely poor communications on the island and the fact that no-one has a mobile phone.
 
I will have to look up the earthquake site myself, things seem to be happening, usually what happens on our side of the Pacific is repeated on the other side. 
 
Judy
 From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:48:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi all,
 
Back to making houses safer in fire prone areas.  We have tinting on all of our windows mainly for protection against hail stones.  During the major storm that hit Mona Vale a few years back every house in our street except two had smashed windows due to the large hail and much water and hail damage inside as well.  Our house and the other, were the only two with tinting on the windows and although our glass has a few tiny scratch marks from the hail, they stayed put and are still going strong today.
 
The guy who put the tinting onto the glass, told us that it is also used on the Space Shuttle to protect it against re-entry.  If this is so, then it should be able to withstand the immediate passing of a fire front, and even if the glass cracks the tinting is supposed to be strong enough to hold it together.  Even if for only a short time, that would be enough to stop the flames coming into the house.
 
It also gives us the added benefits of no more fading of our furnishings, and less heat and cold penetration into the rooms.
 
Judy
 From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:52:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Phil, I would much appreciate a copy of your report of the tornado of fire. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:10 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > I have watched a "tornado of fire" from very close up during the > Gippsland bushfires of 1965. > It was indeed very powerful and the winds blowing in towards it from all > directions just lifted everything that wasn't tied down and even > wrenched trees straight out of the ground and carried them into the > pillar of fire. > The noise it made was far greater than being immediately behind a jet > aircraft at take-off time. > The radiant heat as it passed about 250 metres away blistered all the > paint on that side of the house and caused garden shrubs to explode into > little balls of flame. > It was one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen in my lifetime. > > I wrote a much longer and more detailed description of this firestorm on > this list in October 2001 and still have a copy if anyone wants it. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Glen O'Riley" > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:34:38 +1100 > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but > > I > > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was > > a > > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. > > > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > > >Thanks Tony, > > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about > > damage > > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again > > and > > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one > > well > > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third > > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the > > Mountains.I > > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political > > points > > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not > > have > > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS > > Comitte > > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems > > that at > > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at > > least > > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a > > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the > > Kambah - > > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > > >Regards > > >Gavin O'Brien > > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > >message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:25:40 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Copied below: ================ Firestorm Here's my memory of a totally different kind of a storm - a firestorm. It was January 1965 with a hot Northerly wind blowing, a day of "Acute Fire Danger" declared for the whole state of Victoria and towards evening all of East Gippsland went up. My dad was the manager of Pioneer Concrete and concrete agitator trucks make excellent water-carrying devices. He was also a volunteer fireman of many years standing. We filled all the trucks with water and headed for the fires. We worked the first part of the night around Briagolong, each concrete truck teamed up with a small water-pumping bushfire truck. Later in the night some of us were sent in along a long, slow and winding bush track to where there were a couple of isolated farms in the path of a major fire. We burned breaks right around the farms and back-burned towards the approaching fire front. My main task was to operate two portable two-way radio stations (one from CFA and one from Pioneer) and coordinate the various vehicles and what they were doing. Suddenly we were contacted by Control on the CFA two-way radio. The gist of the message was: "Get out of there quickly or you'll all be burned alive - there's a firestorm approaching." Then almost immediately all radio contact was blocked out. We ascertained where it was and how fast it was moving (40 to 70 miles per hour were the estimates given) and quickly decided that if we attempted the long winding track out (at least 30 minutes) the firestorm would overtake us (it was due here in 15 minutes) and we would all be burnt anyway. We all decided to stay where we were and go through the fire when it arrived. We wet ourselves thoroughly and wet some woollen blankets and waited as the firestorm approached with a noise greater than an express train. The sky became brighter and brighter red and then orange-yellow as it approached. Then we saw it. It was like an enormous tornado, bright orange-red to yellow, almost too bright to look at, spinning at an incredible speed and towering up high into the sky. When the radiant heat from it became too much to stand we squirted the houses, trucks and ourselves one last time and lay on the ground under the heavy, sodden blankets. The wind became incredible as everything movable was sucked into the bottom of the storm. The noise was greater than the wind of any typhoon I have been through (and I have been through dozens of them). The towering pillar of fire moved past us with its base missing our position by about 200 metres. The radiant heat from this monster was so great that the sap in the gum trees would boil and, as it turned into a gas, whole trees would just explode like bombs going off. As each tree exploded you could feel a shock wave similar to the wave you feel when a bomb goes off nearby. (You younger ones won't remember how that feels). When the explosions had stopped we crawled out from under our blankets which had changed from heavy, soggy, wet things to completely dry and very hot. All around us in every direction the bush was now burning fiercely, fed by the wind which always blew strongly in towards the base of the firestorm which was now racing away from us in the opposite direction to that from which it had approached. We accounted for everything and discovered that nobody was seriously injured, no buildings were lost and no vehicles were damaged. Those of us that had peeped out from under our blankets had burns similar to sunburn on our faces. The paint on the walls of the farmhouses had blistered, but not burned. We quickly put out several small fires that had started inside our 250 metre wide circle of firebreaks. We had to wait for several hours until the bushfire all around us had burned down enough for us to be able to drive out through it to safety. Now that was a memorable storm - one I never, ever want to see again from that close up. Phil <>< ================= Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Mayo" To: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:52:51 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Phil, > I would much appreciate a copy of your report of the tornado of fire. > Judy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Smith" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:10 PM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > I have watched a "tornado of fire" from very close up during the > > Gippsland bushfires of 1965. > > It was indeed very powerful and the winds blowing in towards it from > all > > directions just lifted everything that wasn't tied down and even > > wrenched trees straight out of the ground and carried them into the > > pillar of fire. > > The noise it made was far greater than being immediately behind a jet > > aircraft at take-off time. > > The radiant heat as it passed about 250 metres away blistered all the > > paint on that side of the house and caused garden shrubs to explode > into > > little balls of flame. > > It was one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen in my > lifetime. > > > > I wrote a much longer and more detailed description of this firestorm > on > > this list in October 2001 and still have a copy if anyone wants it. > > > > Phil > > <>< > > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Glen O'Riley" > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:34:38 +1100 > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start > but > > > I > > > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it > was > > > a > > > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS > stuff. > > > > > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > > > >Thanks Tony, > > > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning > about > > > damage > > > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains > again > > > and > > > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , > one > > > well > > > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a > third > > > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the > > > Mountains.I > > > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political > > > points > > > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could > not > > > have > > > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS > > > Comitte > > > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems > > > that at > > > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and > at > > > least > > > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof > off a > > > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the > > > Kambah - > > > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few > days. > > > >Regards > > > >Gavin O'Brien > > > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > >message. > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > > + > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > > > your > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > > - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: David.Carroll at CountryEnergy.com.au Subject: aus-wx: storms - NW - Glenn Innes - Armidale- blackouts To: aussie-weather at world.std.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.7 March 21, 2001 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:30:56 +1100 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on CENTRAL01/Servers/Country Energy(Release 5.07a |May 14, 2001) at 22/01/2003 04:31:02 PM Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Reports of 66,000 volt line tripped due to storms, fires.. TEXAS and EMMAVILLE back on. Glen Innes still off. Any reports from up there. Dave ##################################################################################### This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of Country Energy. ##################################################################################### +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:05:25 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Gavin et al, Im just wondering what were the Mechanism's behind the formation of the tornado's, and were they ahead/with/behind of the firestorm that day and also the same concerning the Mt Rogers fire (Deliberatly lit..) and possible tornado on Sunday. Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > Thanks Tony, > We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about damage > etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again and > there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one well > to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third west > of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I think > Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points at > present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have done > much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte meets > next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that at least > two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least one on > Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a water > resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - > Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > Regards > Gavin O'Brien > SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: USGS Earthquake Hazards Program-Latest Earthquakes.xml Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:14:59 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
this isn't Australian news - nor is it really close by, but I thought it a serious enough event to report.  This massive earthquake was initially reported as 7.3, but has since been increased to 7.8 !
 
This could possibly increase volcanic activity on Popocatapetl and/or Colima - with a 6.5 mg having hit Guatemala only about a day ago.!!
 
Many world weather disasters at present.
 
Love
Sha
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I don't know about anyone else, but that link didn't open ..... sorry about that :(
 
 
Love
Sha
 
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 From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: aus-wx: fire tornado Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:53:01 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > I'm not sure when I saw it (when I was young), but i've seen a fire tornado > on tv before, tall column of rotating winds (red from fire) famous photo of hot air vortex inside active Etna Sicily volcano in summer 2001 Klipsi +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.134.113.201] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:05:55 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 09:05:55.0867 (UTC) FILETIME=[78DCA6B0:01C2C1F5] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Phil, I have seen at first hand some of the damage in Kambah and read some descriptions in the Canberra Times and they reflect your experience.Seems at least two tornadoes occurred in Saturday afternoon. Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: "Phil Smith" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 10:10:29 +0800 > >I have watched a "tornado of fire" from very close up during the >Gippsland bushfires of 1965. >It was indeed very powerful and the winds blowing in towards it from all >directions just lifted everything that wasn't tied down and even >wrenched trees straight out of the ground and carried them into the >pillar of fire. >The noise it made was far greater than being immediately behind a jet >aircraft at take-off time. >The radiant heat as it passed about 250 metres away blistered all the >paint on that side of the house and caused garden shrubs to explode into >little balls of flame. >It was one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen in my lifetime. > >I wrote a much longer and more detailed description of this firestorm on >this list in October 2001 and still have a copy if anyone wants it. > >Phil ><>< > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Glen O'Riley" >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:34:38 +1100 >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but > > I > > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was > > a > > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. > > > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > > >Thanks Tony, > > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about > > damage > > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again > > and > > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one > > well > > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third > > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the > > Mountains.I > > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political > > points > > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not > > have > > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS > > Comitte > > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems > > that at > > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at > > least > > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a > > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the > > Kambah - > > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > > >Regards > > >Gavin O'Brien > > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > >message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.134.113.201] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:14:51 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 09:14:52.0729 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8DB4A90:01C2C1F6] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi , The damage included large mature street trees (Eucalypts) torn out of the ground or uprooted and blown over some seemed to have been shredded and defoliated as well.It would have taken hurricane force winds to do that sort of damage! The street was actually on the edge of the fire zone and nothing was actually burnt.The top of a water tank on Mount Rodgers had the whole roof torn off and deposited about 100 meters away!!Cyclonic effect? Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires >Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:30:38 +1100 > >I'm not sure when I saw it (when I was young), but i've seen a fire tornado >on tv before, tall column of rotating winds (red from fire) a lot bigger >then a devil. The fire would have to create its own highly localised >conditions to support something like this. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Glen O'Riley" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:34 AM >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > > > > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but I > > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was a > > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. > > > > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: > > >Thanks Tony, > > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about >damage > > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again >and > > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one >well > > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third > > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I > > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political >points > > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not >have > > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte > > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that >at > > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at >least > > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a > > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah >- > > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. > > >Regards > > >Gavin O'Brien > > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > >message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Errorneous reports Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:54:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I have to jump in here because of all the errors in the media. The Eldorado fire (main one) didn't start at 2pm or 4pm as reported in many papers etc, but approx 11.45am as it was spotted by a fire tower watcher. The smoke was very dark which is suspect to start with in dry grass I'd say and just took off in the dry bush.
Wind has swung around to the east again now but is very light but has brought the thick smelly smoke with it again.
All day today was reasonably mild for here with a thick blanket of smoke but high enough that it was not a concern (sort of). Has been "dark" here all day because of the smoke of course and some SAT pics show the smoke from the fires of last night which continue to burn out of control.
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Humour Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:21:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Forgive my sense of humour, but I like this report lifted from "Storm Water" the newsletter of the Storm Spotters in Vic .... "30/12/2002 Mirranatwa Heavy rain, extremely strong winds. Trees were uprooted and damaged, roofs were damaged and dogs were scared!!" -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:23:37 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Fires in HK, was Errorneous reports X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hey, with all you blokes sharing info on Canberra and NE Vic, it's now looking pretty sus here. Our bushfire season (except here they call them "hillfires" because the only bush we have is where the hills are too steep to build on) is in our winter - like now - and today there is a thick smoky haze everywhere. Maximum visibility is about 1 km. The sun was a dull red disc shining through the murk. At first I though it might be extreme industrial pollution, but helicopters are continually filling their buckets in the river in front of our place so they must be emptying them somewhere. I haven't a clue where the fires are yet, but in this region there is very seldom any property damage. If I can get any interesting news, I shall follow up later. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:54:08 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Errorneous reports > I have to jump in here because of all the errors in the media. The > Eldorado fire (main one) didn't start at 2pm or 4pm as reported in many > papers etc, but approx 11.45am as it was spotted by a fire tower > watcher. The smoke was very dark which is suspect to start with in dry > grass I'd say and just took off in the dry bush. > Wind has swung around to the east again now but is very light but has > brought the thick smelly smoke with it again. > All day today was reasonably mild for here with a thick blanket of > smoke but high enough that it was not a concern (sort of). Has been > "dark" here all day because of the smoke of course and some SAT pics > show the smoke from the fires of last night which continue to burn out > of control. > > Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria) > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.153.42] From: "Dave Ellem" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: storms - NW - Glenn Innes - Armidale- blackouts Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:33:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 10:33:32.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[B65031E0:01C2C201] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dave! Just got back from Chasing the Northern Tablelands today. Although missing most of the major action, there were certainly some very strong gusts in storms and a lot of CGs. Not surprised to hear that the power is down in a number of places. Lucky I didn't head to Glenn Innes to get dinner! Dave Ellem ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:30 PM Subject: aus-wx: storms - NW - Glenn Innes - Armidale- blackouts > Reports of 66,000 volt line tripped due to storms, fires.. TEXAS and > EMMAVILLE back on. Glen Innes still off. > > Any reports from up there. > > Dave > > > > > > > ############################################################################ ######### > This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the > sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are > not necessarily the views of Country Energy. > ############################################################################ ######### > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Victorian fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:04:10 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, More images of the Victorian fires courtesy of Chris Giles, Ross Buscall and Brad from Perth (the latter has collected a whole page of images of the fires around Mt Hotham) and all photographic reports are linked from this page.... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/summer02.htm Stay safe!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 20:18:30 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian fires X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow! What impressive photos! The Hotham collection not only depicts well the horror of the fires but also the wonderful beauty of the Victorian Alps. And as for Bussy's pictures from Rutherglen, I had forgotten how beautiful a Victorian country gravel road can look! Fourteen years in this dreary concrete jungle here is more than enough! Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:04:10 +1100 Subject: aus-wx: Victorian fires > Evening all, > > More images of the Victorian fires courtesy of Chris Giles, Ross > Buscall > and Brad from Perth (the latter has collected a whole page of images of > the fires around Mt Hotham) and all photographic reports are linked > from > this page.... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/summer02.htm > > Stay safe!! > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.221.137.226] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: NE Vic fires Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:19:51 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2003 12:19:52.0108 (UTC) FILETIME=[909A1EC0:01C2C210] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Just posted this amazing shot of the fires/smoke from NE Vic courtesy of MODIS... http://wycheproof.my100megs.com/temp/nevicfires22-01-03.jpg Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. Hope every1 is safe but it may be that spots further west may be sparking later this week....:(( _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 23:50:53 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Gavin, This is the sort of damage that has been suggested to me - not sure if the source of the information was the same?? Quite a violent event. We will have to view some of the photographic evidence I suppose. Jimmy Deguara At 08:14 PM 22/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hi , >The damage included large mature street trees (Eucalypts) torn out of the >ground or uprooted and blown over some seemed to have been shredded and >defoliated as well.It would have taken hurricane force winds to do that >sort of damage! >The street was actually on the edge of the fire zone and nothing was >actually burnt.The top of a water tank on Mount Rodgers had the whole roof >torn off and deposited about 100 meters away!!Cyclonic effect? >Gavin SSWW >Canberra > > > > > >>From: "Phillip Basil-Jones" >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires >>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:30:38 +1100 >> >>I'm not sure when I saw it (when I was young), but i've seen a fire tornado >>on tv before, tall column of rotating winds (red from fire) a lot bigger >>then a devil. The fire would have to create its own highly localised >>conditions to support something like this. >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Glen O'Riley" >>To: >>Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 7:34 AM >>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires >> >> >> > Were they tornados??? Are you sure?? Fire devils are easy to start but I >> > have never heard of a tornado being started by fire. However if it was a >> > true tornado.....very interesting, might have to check some RFS stuff. >> > >> > At 11:23 PM 1/21/2003, you wrote: >> > >Thanks Tony, >> > >We are still shell shocked by what happend and still learning about >>damage >> > >etc.The smoke cleared enough this afternoon to see the Mountains again >>and >> > >there are still three large plumes rising from the Brindabellas , one >>well >> > >to our south another to the north of the Tidbinbilla Range and a third >> > >west of Belconnen so the fires are still very active in the Mountains.I >> > >think Wilson Tuckey and Kate Carnell are trying to score political points >> > >at present. Very sad given that the current ACT Government could not have >> > >done much in the time they have been in the job.The A.C.T. AMOS Comitte >> > >meets next week and I guess the main issue will be the fires.Seems that >>at >> > >least two fire induced Tornadoes occurred in the Kambah area and at least >> > >one on Mount Rodgers which was powerful enough to lift the roof off a >> > >water resivour.Huge gum trees were torn out of the ground in the Kambah - >> > >Wanniassa area.I hope to have a look around over the next few days. >> > >Regards >> > >Gavin O'Brien >> > >SSWW Canberra A.C.T. >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > >message. >> > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> > message. >> > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> > >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:58:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all. As most of you know I am playing around with some new software. During the last few days with the threat to Canberra I have been supplying my local brigade with 30 minute weather reports via sms. I live on the outskirts of Canberra in a small rural community. As I haven't really written the statistics part yet I basically sat in front of my display for around 5 to 10 minutes before sending the data and made an educated guess the same as the field officers do before weather is sent in from the fire ground each hour. What I am interested in is how does one determine an average direction and thus a wind change in direction? Currently I have my software reading data from 1 minute, 2, 30, 60 minutes. It adds up the direction the wind is gusting from during that time and the direction that has the most hits is deemed to be the average direction. What I am trying to work out is how long the wind has to blow or average from another direction to be deemed a WIND CHANGE or a change in direction? What I am trying to do is sort of automate the alarm process so it will pass on this info if needed.... Regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Humour Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 07:52:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Or this report from someone on the radio during the bushfire's on Wednesday, "The wind has remained calm because the smoke is stopping it from picking up...." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: aus-wx: Humour > Forgive my sense of humour, but I like this report lifted from "Storm > Water" the newsletter of the Storm Spotters in Vic .... > > "30/12/2002 Mirranatwa Heavy rain, extremely strong winds. Trees > were uprooted and damaged, roofs were damaged and dogs were scared!!" > > > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:00:47 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Humour Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Geeze I love that one......most people know that in any decent fire, the heat causes enough wind to displace smoke so more air can be sucked in, thus the rising column in any decent established fire. At 07:52 AM 1/23/2003, you wrote: >Or this report from someone on the radio during the bushfire's on Wednesday, >"The wind has remained calm because the smoke is stopping it from picking >up...." > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane ONeill" >To: "Aussie-wx" >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 9:21 PM >Subject: aus-wx: Humour > > > > Forgive my sense of humour, but I like this report lifted from "Storm > > Water" the newsletter of the Storm Spotters in Vic .... > > > > "30/12/2002 Mirranatwa Heavy rain, extremely strong winds. Trees > > were uprooted and damaged, roofs were damaged and dogs were scared!!" > > > > > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:07:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't catch where the other was. It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:29:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi, Finally I have been able to rack up sufficient time to get together this special report http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-07.htm Here is a preview image http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd005.jpg Staccato lightning strikes within the dust plume being blown out by outflow. There are quite a few lightning strikes that in the report I included just main ones. The whole set of the images are at: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122301.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122302.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122303.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122304.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122305.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122306.htm I hope you enjoy it. Do visit back as videos are planned to be released of this event. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:35:08 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I notice that two teenagers caught in separate incidents in Canberra have been refused bail (or declined to apply) when appearing in the Childrens Court - presumably this could be regarded as protective custody as much as community protection during this period. I have considered for a long time that the penalties and particularly the sentences handed out for arson in this country during the bushfire season is woefully inadequate. To me the offence should be treated equally to attempted murder (or perhaps attempted mass murder) given the obvious consequences of lighting a fire that have been so terribly demonstrated at the weekend. Of real frustration is the involvement of teenagers who will be treated with diminished responsibility as a result of their age. This being the case, then presumably the parents still bear some responsibility. I have been thinking that a more realistic penalty may be the seizure of the family home of anyone convicted of arson. The home could then be used by one of those who have just lost theirs. Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least > they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously > have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News > report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't > catch where the other was. > > It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and > comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: Australian Weather News up and running Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:33:52 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com After a week of major problems with a hosting company, AWN is now back at its usual URL. I have a new Australian-based host, though with servers in the USA. This host also offers a fuller range of services for some of my expansion plans over the year. I will be another week or two working on invisible infrastructure, then should be able to get back to the routine updating of daily weather news on the site along with a much-needed spring clean of the links sections. Laurier Williams Australian Weather News http://www.australianweathernews.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:40:02 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Great report Jimmy & David! It pains me to think that we came home a few days before this event from TDU. We probably would have stayed out, had we not be so tired from 7 days of constant chasing. Truly are remarkable event. What do you think the prime factor that led to such an explosive setup? The windshear, while nice isn't remarkable, although it probably intensified dramitically in the evening. A combination of excellent moisture in the lower levels combined with such a sharp upper trough? A new camera too Jimmy? dann -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:29 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Hi, Finally I have been able to rack up sufficient time to get together this special report http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-07.htm Here is a preview image http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd005.jpg Staccato lightning strikes within the dust plume being blown out by outflow. There are quite a few lightning strikes that in the report I included just main ones. The whole set of the images are at: http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122301.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122302.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122303.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122304.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122305.htm http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122306.htm I hope you enjoy it. Do visit back as videos are planned to be released of this event. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:43:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blame the lawyers who get rich while they get the people let off with a smack on the wrist. If you are under 18 you are virtually invulnerable these days. I know because the vandals who attacked my house 5 years ago couldn't even be interviewed on suspicion. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:07 AM Subject: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least > they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously > have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News > report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't > catch where the other was. > > It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and > comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:48:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The BoM takes average days with gale force winds on the basis of a 10 minute average,according to its Monthly Weather Reviews. I have seen measures over a 2 minute period as well but I can't recall if it was BoM data or not. If you are sending reports every 30 minutes I would take a 2 or 3 minute average, but perhaps best to talk to someone that is more familiar with the official practice..what do the field staff do? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction > Hi all. > > As most of you know I am playing around with some new software. During the > last few days with the threat to Canberra I have been supplying my local > brigade with 30 minute weather reports via sms. I live on the outskirts of > Canberra in a small rural community. As I haven't really written the > statistics part yet I basically sat in front of my display for around 5 to > 10 minutes before sending the data and made an educated guess the same as > the field officers do before weather is sent in from the fire ground each > hour. > > > What I am interested in is how does one determine an average direction and > thus a wind change in direction? > > > Currently I have my software reading data from 1 minute, 2, 30, 60 minutes. > It adds up the direction the wind is gusting from during that time and the > direction that has the most hits is deemed to be the average direction. What > I am trying to work out is how long the wind has to blow or average from > another direction to be deemed a WIND CHANGE or a change in direction? What > I am trying to do is sort of automate the alarm process so it will pass on > this info if needed.... > > Regards, Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:10:10 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:44:31 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: RE: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Dann, The technical side of things will be explained in greater details further down the track as this is being researched and added to the report. We are still trying to make sense of some of the behaviours that occurred. The wind shear was not the most ideal but in my and David's opinion sufficient for supercells taking into the account the incredible instability high CAPE environment and yes it did increase during the evening. The system was very typical of the conditions required for MCS development as seen so often in the US and fairly irregularly here. Of course there are various conditions for MCS development some are more linear - major dangerous squall lines with bow echo features and others are just rounded anvil plumes slower moving but still produce severe weather. MCS are quite fascinating complexes to study. They are often related to flash flood events because of their immense size. There was a deep moisture field available that's for sure and this allowed for explosive development once the cap broke. Like you said it was an incredible event. David and I are still pumped Jimmy Deguara At 09:40 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Great report Jimmy & David! It pains me to think that we came home a few >days before this event from TDU. We probably would have stayed out, had we >not be so tired from 7 days of constant chasing. Truly are remarkable event. > >What do you think the prime factor that led to such an explosive setup? The >windshear, while nice isn't remarkable, although it probably intensified >dramitically in the evening. >A combination of excellent moisture in the lower levels combined with such a >sharp upper trough? > >A new camera too Jimmy? > >dann > > >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:29 AM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event > > >Hi, > >Finally I have been able to rack up sufficient time to get together this >special report > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-07.htm > >Here is a preview image > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd005.jpg >Staccato lightning strikes within the dust plume being blown out by outflow. > >There are quite a few lightning strikes that in the report I included just >main ones. The whole set of the images are at: > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122301.htm > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122302.htm > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122303.htm > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122304.htm > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122305.htm > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122306.htm > >I hope you enjoy it. 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Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept developing meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders of weather :) Matt Smith Peter Creswick wrote: > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the sky is >incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if you >didnt know better! amazing stuff. > >Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept developing >meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders of >weather :) Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated. These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we did not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic circulation as suggested in the article http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg More notable in the video of course. Regards Jimmy Deguara >Matt Smith > >Peter Creswick wrote: > > > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: sgalow at ihug.com.au To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:03:22 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com peter stuff like that is available at http://www.ats.com.au/monitor hope the beta is going ok mate stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction > Hi all. > > As most of you know I am playing around with some new software. During the > last few days with the threat to Canberra I have been supplying my local > brigade with 30 minute weather reports via sms. I live on the outskirts of > Canberra in a small rural community. As I haven't really written the > statistics part yet I basically sat in front of my display for around 5 to > 10 minutes before sending the data and made an educated guess the same as > the field officers do before weather is sent in from the fire ground each > hour. > > > What I am interested in is how does one determine an average direction and > thus a wind change in direction? > > > Currently I have my software reading data from 1 minute, 2, 30, 60 minutes. > It adds up the direction the wind is gusting from during that time and the > direction that has the most hits is deemed to be the average direction. What > I am trying to work out is how long the wind has to blow or average from > another direction to be deemed a WIND CHANGE or a change in direction? What > I am trying to do is sort of automate the alarm process so it will pass on > this info if needed.... > > Regards, Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: "'aussie-weather at world.std.com'" Subject: RE: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:22:50 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yeah it is working no worries. It is just I am helping with the fireries a bit and I wanted to do a rough automation so I needed a bit of direction so to speak... Regards, Peter -----Original Message----- From: sgalow at ihug.com.au [mailto:sgalow at ihug.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:03 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction peter stuff like that is available at http://www.ats.com.au/monitor hope the beta is going ok mate stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter May" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: aus-wx: OT: What is a change in direction > Hi all. > > As most of you know I am playing around with some new software. During the > last few days with the threat to Canberra I have been supplying my local > brigade with 30 minute weather reports via sms. I live on the outskirts of > Canberra in a small rural community. As I haven't really written the > statistics part yet I basically sat in front of my display for around 5 to > 10 minutes before sending the data and made an educated guess the same as > the field officers do before weather is sent in from the fire ground each > hour. > > > What I am interested in is how does one determine an average direction and > thus a wind change in direction? > > > Currently I have my software reading data from 1 minute, 2, 30, 60 minutes. > It adds up the direction the wind is gusting from during that time and the > direction that has the most hits is deemed to be the average direction. What > I am trying to work out is how long the wind has to blow or average from > another direction to be deemed a WIND CHANGE or a change in direction? What > I am trying to do is sort of automate the alarm process so it will pass on > this info if needed.... > > Regards, Peter > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 12:04:24 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Glen.

The other arrest was a kid over in Perth.
The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so!
Quote "He is to be made an example of".

Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit.


Regards
Dale




on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote:

The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least
they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously
have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News
report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't
catch where the other was.

It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and
comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao.

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 From: "Laurier Williams" To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" Subject: aus-wx: First hand account: Canberra aerial firefighting Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 06:17:15 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com This was a very first hand perspective of last Saturday afternoon in Canberra, from a copter firefighter's viewpoint. I wondered how the choppers were navigating through that thick smoke - it looks like they went "by eye" and very slowly. Laurier --------------------------------------- > Black Sat Fires in Canberra (Air Ops) > For those that are interested just got back from spending the past four days working in one of the Air Attack ships on the massive bushfires burning in the Australian Capital Territory. Below is a list of the aircraft we had at the Helibase. > > 2 x S-64E Aircranes (Erickson) > 1 x K-Max (Superior Helicopters) > 1 x 204 (Heliquip) > 1 x 205 (Helipro NZ) > 1 x BK-117 (Lifeflight Melbourne) > 1 x 500E (Marine Helicopters) > 2 x 206L (Helicorp & G & A Helicopters) > 1 x EC-120 (Canberra Helicopters) > 3 x 206B (Southwest Helicopters, Unknown) > 3 x AS350s (Heli Aust, Rotor Lift) > 1 x Seahawk (Royal Australian Navy) > 1 x AS350 (Royal Australian Navy) > > Basically we were airborne every day from the Friday I got there till yesterday. The first day we were based at Eurialla (should be Uriarra) Helibase but at 10.0am on the Sat morning the McKinley fire we were working on got out of control and was headed back towards downtown Canberra. The helibase was evacuated and all equipment headed for the Nicholl oval which became the Helibase, at least so far anyway. > Sat was a day from ####. The fire was burning approx 20km away in the morning and with the spotting and ferocity of it, caused by 38 deg Celcius temps and 50 MPH winds it got up a head of steam. With aircraft stretched thin we did what we could but by 2pm things were getting real bad. We got a call from one of the other air attacks saying they needed the Crane around at Weston Creek as fire was already in the houses (Weston is a suburb of Canberra City). As we closed in the skies became black as night, the only way we could see anything was the brightness created by the burning hills and houses around us. It was like going through a tunnel of fire. Words cant really explain what it was like. > > As we took the crane in to find some targets it got even darker. We > were about 1/4 mile in front of Mike and Jim in the Crane and all they could see was our flashing strobe on the tail of the Longranger. Out in the smoke and fire were two other aircraft and it was a case of all eyes out the windows keeping an eye out. At 2.30pm it was like it was midnight, pitch black with an erie red glow. > > Fast forwarding and when we finally handed the crane over to Ashley > and jim in the other air attack machines we took the Kmax and headed for Duffy (this was the worst affected suburb losing over 200 houses). We had Mike in tow, sitting between our 5 and 6o'clock, only a hundred feet or so above the houses and at about 50 knots because viz sucked big time. We ended up going between tall building in downtown Woden as we inched our way to Duffy. > > Once there it was like a war movie. One out of every ten houses were > still there. It was impossible to work out where to start. Jayson and I started looking for targets for the Kmax as well as water sources but Mike had already decided to pull water out of the swimming pools. Now the Kmax is one #### of a machine, with a 100ft long line he was pulling water out of a pool behind a house that was already well alight and dropping it on the neighbours place to try and save that. It was an amazing and sobering sight. One old guy waved like mad at us to help as his house was just starting to burn so we got Mike over pointed out what was needed and after about ten loads from the neighbours swimming pool, the house was saved. Needless to say he was very greatful. > > This was a common scene that afternoon and evening. Again fast > forwarding. We had to bug out about 7.45pm and it was a very sombre mood with all the crews that night. However the stories were amazing. Our original helibase at Eurialla was over run by the fire and didnt exist anymore, nor did the town, all forty houses were gone also. > > > During one fire front we worked on Rick dropped me off to try and pull down a fence so that two horses could get out as they were cornered by fire. Being stuck in the middle of a fireground and relying on the Kmax and Tony in the AS350 to keep the flames back with bucket loads of water, while trying to rip the fences down, was a very character building moment and one I wont forget. These pilots do a #### of a job and for once I am glad that I got to experience their handiwork first hand. And yes the horses did survive. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:00:11 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 12:04 PM 23/01/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Glen. > >The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. >The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting >effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! >Quote "He is to be made an example of". > >Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. I heard or read a report some arsonist was going round after the fire crews had turned out and lighting fires all over the place around Hobart. Hope they catch them and follow up with the book. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:00:43 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort.

At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote:
Glen.

The other arrest was a kid over in Perth.
The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so!
Quote "He is to be made an example of".

Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit.


Regards
Dale




on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote:
The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least
they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously
have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News
report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't
catch where the other was.

It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and
comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao.

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 X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:14:12 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Glen, If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents. I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway. They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. Jimmy Deguara At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost >property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort. > >At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: >>Glen. >> >>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. >>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting >>effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! >>Quote "He is to be made an example of". >> >>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. >> >> >>Regards >>Dale >> >> >> >> >>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote: >>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least >>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously >>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News >>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't >>catch where the other was. >> >>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and >>comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. >> >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>message. >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:27:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com If the arsonists are minors, why is it wrong to ask parents to contribute towards paying for damage done by their own children?? Aren't they ultimately responsible for the behaviour of their offspring until they reach legal age? What about issuing a tax file number to these offenders which would ensure that when they did start to work, that a proportion of their earnings for possibly the rest of their lives would go in some small way to making up for the damage done.??...that way, what they did would follow them for the time it took to pay the debt off to society and they wouldn't be able to walk away as they do now and say "so what, it's not my problem..." Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > Hi Glen, > > If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they > are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask > the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents. > > I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem > unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway. > > They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but > I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult one > to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they > concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost > >property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort. > > > >At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > >>Glen. > >> > >>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. > >>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting > >>effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! > >>Quote "He is to be made an example of". > >> > >>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. > >> > >> > >>Regards > >>Dale > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote: > >>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least > >>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously > >>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News > >>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't > >>catch where the other was. > >> > >>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and > >>comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. > >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + > >>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >>message. > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:44:06 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:14 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but >I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult >one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they >concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. There have been a few colourful suggestions down here, but one of the women at work had a story of a local 8 year old arsonist in a small country town (set a fire in the local school or similar). I'm not sure who dished it out, but his punishment was to have all his toys torched in front of his eyes, while being told that was what he was doing to someone by deliberately torching someone else's property. Rather drastic, but apparently, he never did it again... Given the number of arson crimes especially in the summer months, there is obviously a serious problem in society that needs to be dealt with. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:48:16 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I have no sympathy for these mungrels. At 06:14 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: >Hi Glen, > >If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they >are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask >the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents. > >I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem >unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway. > >They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but >I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult >one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they >concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. > >Jimmy Deguara > >At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >>Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost >>property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort. >> >>At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: >>>Glen. >>> >>>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. >>>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the >>>firefighting effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! >>>Quote "He is to be made an example of". >>> >>>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. >>> >>> >>>Regards >>>Dale >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote: >>>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least >>>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously >>>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News >>>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't >>>catch where the other was. >>> >>>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and >>>comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. >>> >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >>>message. >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Paul Yole (Yahoo)" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 02:52:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com What about putting these arsonists in detention camps???? Oh...wait...that won't work. They would just learn how to burn buildings down better then.... (Sorry...sad attempt at humor) PaulY -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Tony Langdon (VK3JED) Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:44 AM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests At 06:14 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but >I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult >one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they >concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. There have been a few colourful suggestions down here, but one of the women at work had a story of a local 8 year old arsonist in a small country town (set a fire in the local school or similar). I'm not sure who dished it out, but his punishment was to have all his toys torched in front of his eyes, while being told that was what he was doing to someone by deliberately torching someone else's property. Rather drastic, but apparently, he never did it again... Given the number of arson crimes especially in the summer months, there is obviously a serious problem in society that needs to be dealt with. :-( 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:31:45 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
your absolutly right jimmy, they have total contempt for the law,
and dont give a toss and think it's a big joke and they're
young enought to get away with it with little more than a slap on the wrist,
taking it out on their parents in no good, what if the kid hates the parents?
too many do gooders and government ineptitude will ensure this sort of thing goes on for a long tome to come.
 
my own personal opinion is if they're caught out to grab them by the scruff of the neck and drag them kicking and screaming into the middle of the nearest street and sink a bullet into the back of their heads, then watch all those potential arsonists stand up and take notice.
6,000,000 000 people on this planet and we put up with the bottom 1% of shit that
causes us 95% of the planets problems, if anything else caused us this much problem we'd put it through a hammermill and use it for paddock fretiliser.
 
more realistically, deduct 25% of their dole or wages for the rest of their lives and put them on a lifelong register like a pedophile and keep track of them until they die.
any sort of criminal reoffence meane automatic life in a prison cell with a bar and rope so they can have the choice of taking themselves out. 
 
i could say a heap more which would offend all the do gooders out there but enough is enough for now and this aint weather.
 
richard
 
 
 
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Date: Thursday, 23 January 2003 5:46:14 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests
 
Hi Glen,

If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they
are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask
the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents.

I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem
unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway.

They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but
I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult one
to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they
concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities.

Jimmy Deguara

At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote:
>Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost
>property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort.
>
>At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote:
>>Glen.
>>
>>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth.
>>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the firefighting
>>effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so!
>>Quote "He is to be made an example of".
>>
>>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit.
>>
>>
>>Regards
>>Dale
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote:
>>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least
>>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously
>>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News
>>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't
>>catch where the other was.
>>
>>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and
>>comb theRe aus-wx Arson Arrests.ems streets looking to remove them....lmao.
>>
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP75.gif: 00000001,7d1f16bc,00000000,00000000 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:02:24 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 06:48 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with >some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase >their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause >taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. >However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally >responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I >have no sympathy for these mungrels. I agree with parental responsibility. As a kid, it was unthinkable to do anything serious like arson. To do so would have been a way to earn a collection of boot prints on one's rear end. Sadly these days, all the pop psychologists have convinced everyone that it's harmful to physically punish children. And it worked both ways, if we, as kids, did something positive - put in hard work, helped someone out or did well at school, there were rewards. In the longer term, it would have taken a lot of hard work to "pay" for the damage done - grounding, working to repair damage, etc. In those days (actually, not THAT long ago!), kids were taught to be responsible for their actions, and parents accept responsibility for what their kids did wrong. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:46:05 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Cut their hands off and put them on a truck and say, "Here's your fire buddy. Put it out !" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:48 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with > some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase > their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause > taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. > However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally > responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I > have no sympathy for these mungrels. > > > At 06:14 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > >Hi Glen, > > > >If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they > >are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask > >the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents. > > > >I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem > >unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway. > > > >They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims but > >I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult > >one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and they > >concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > >At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >>Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost > >>property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort. > >> > >>At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > >>>Glen. > >>> > >>>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. > >>>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the > >>>firefighting effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! > >>>Quote "He is to be made an example of". > >>> > >>>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. > >>> > >>> > >>>Regards > >>>Dale > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote: > >>>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At least > >>>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we seriously > >>>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. News > >>>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I didn't > >>>catch where the other was. > >>> > >>>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector and > >>>comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. > >>> > >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >>>message. > >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:49:11 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Short one but. Good call. My father would have killed me. Reminds me of a "thoughtful" thing I said to a young person the other day. "your Mum and Dad brought you into this world and they should be allowed to take you out." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:02 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > At 06:48 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with > >some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase > >their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause > >taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. > >However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally > >responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I > >have no sympathy for these mungrels. > > I agree with parental responsibility. As a kid, it was unthinkable to do > anything serious like arson. To do so would have been a way to earn a > collection of boot prints on one's rear end. Sadly these days, all the pop > psychologists have convinced everyone that it's harmful to physically > punish children. And it worked both ways, if we, as kids, did something > positive - put in hard work, helped someone out or did well at school, > there were rewards. > > In the longer term, it would have taken a lot of hard work to "pay" for the > damage done - grounding, working to repair damage, etc. In those days > (actually, not THAT long ago!), kids were taught to be responsible for > their actions, and parents accept responsibility for what their kids did > wrong. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:52:36 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: 3.0 X-CNT: ; To: "weather mailing list" Subject: aus-wx: smoke Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
finally got a large dose of smoke from the vic.-nsw fires here, sure looks speccy,
and that sun!!!!!!!
 
richard
naracoorte
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP76.gif: 00000001,44602f01,00000000,00000000 From: "Keith Barnett" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:38:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think Jimmy hit the nail on the head when he referred to rights and responsibilities. The firebug problem is embedded in society as a whole. We have all sorts of people jumping up and down about the state of the world (nothing wrong with that as such) but promulgating the wrong solution, that is, by having more 'rights' all the problems of human nature will just go away. History shows they have only got worse and we bury our heads in the sands of ignorance if we think otherwise. That's not to denigrate of course some worthwhile achievements over the years, but have we gone too far? I think we have. You can't even look at some people sideways without facing a discrimination action in the Courts. And look at the ridiculous prosecutions that have been launched by , for example, people tripping over an uneven council footpath. Political correctness has wrecked us, and by just taking it lying down we have assassinated our brains. I think that the kids should be taught more responsibilities..as potential citizens and hopefully mature adults-to-be, and not be inflamed by the do-gooders demanding revolution and more 'rights', who prey on children's emerging independence. But then then you can't expect the schools to do that..it is, as has been consistently stated here, the job of the parents. Kids are only what their parents make them..if they learn love they will love, if they learn hate, they will hate. I know it's easier said than done..parents of troubled kids have probably had their problems too. Discipline should be brought back in the schools to the level we had in 1960 and earlier. Parents bash their kids because they have problems of their own and need to learn to face those problems instead of the rest of society having it taken out on them by the political correctness police. The cane never turned me into the sort of person the do gooders theory says it should have turned me into. Now after that 2 cents worth of hot air, I don't think we will see an immediate rise in greenhouse gases, but I'll bet Sydney's West will get near another record max on Sunday. Keep an eye also on the South Pacific..especially between Tuvalu and Tokelau.. http://www.met.gov.fj/aifs_prods/0641.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > Cut their hands off and put them on a truck and say, "Here's your fire > buddy. Put it out !" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen O'Riley" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > > > > Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with > > some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase > > their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause > > taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. > > However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally > > responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I > > have no sympathy for these mungrels. > > > > > > At 06:14 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > > >Hi Glen, > > > > > >If you deal with some of the students I do and from the backgrounds they > > >are from, fines would not work and they have no money to pay them. To ask > > >the parents to pay is somewhat I suppose unfair for the parents. > > > > > >I am of agreement that students under age are 'punished' as they do seem > > >unperturbed by laws now - I often hear students say it anyway. > > > > > >They have suggested that fire bugs are brought in front of the victims > but > > >I don't know how successful that is for some firebugs.It is a difficult > > >one to tackle. There is little or no fear amongst this generation and > they > > >concentrate more on their rights rather than their own responsibilities. > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > >At 06:00 PM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >>Some hefty fines would be appropriate to recoup costs of people who lost > > >>property/structures and the cost involved in the firefighting effort. > > >> > > >>At 01:04 PM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > > >>>Glen. > > >>> > > >>>The other arrest was a kid over in Perth. > > >>>The authoritys there are pushing to re-coup the costs of the > > >>>firefighting effort from his (parents?) and rightfully so! > > >>>Quote "He is to be made an example of". > > >>> > > >>>Also heard some of the Tasmanian fires deliberately lit. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Regards > > >>>Dale > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>on 23/01/2003 07:07, Glen O'Riley at goriley at tsn.cc wrote: > > >>>The continuing number of arson arrests are really concerning me. At > least > > >>>they are being found, but are these just re offenders or do we > seriously > > >>>have that many mentally insecure people running around our streets. > News > > >>>report just in stated that there was one arrest in Canberra and I > didn't > > >>>catch where the other was. > > >>> > > >>>It is a shame they cant make an arson detector like a metal detector > and > > >>>comb the streets looking to remove them....lmao. > > >>> > > >>>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >>>To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >>>with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > >>>message. > > >>>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > >message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:14:05 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: aus-wx: Sunset pics 23/01/03 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Another spectacular sunset in Melbourne caused by a little high level smoke. Pics have been added to http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: smoke Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:56:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Pictures from Bussy taken in Rutherglen ~6.30pm tonight......shows horrid conditions continuing.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: smoke

finally got a large dose of smoke from the vic.-nsw fires here, sure looks speccy,
and that sun!!!!!!!
 
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 Embedded Content: IMSTP77.gif: 00000001,13793ddb,00000000,00000000 X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.229] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:01:39 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 11:01:39.0595 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE0F35B0:01C2C2CE] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Peter, Your photos really grab the view.Your shots from the WM really show why it was pitch black at 3pm.You are like me a Gilmore Person! Clem Davis Bom would be very keen to see your photos! Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: Peter Creswick >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather >Subject: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 10:10:10 +1100 > >http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.229] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:05:38 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 11:05:39.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CE78210:01C2C2CF] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Matt the colour is very very real! I have video of it taken from Gilmore hill,I looked at the recording on Monday and was very shaken.Very scarey! Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: Matthew Smith >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:03:32 +1100 > >Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the sky >is >incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if >you >didnt know better! amazing stuff. > >Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept >developing >meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders of >weather :) > >Matt Smith > >Peter Creswick wrote: > > > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.229] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:11:04 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 11:11:04.0496 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EC44300:01C2C2D0] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and I gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are still very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were ok.Also my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went around the world! Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: Jimmy Deguara >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the sky >>is >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if >>you >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. >> >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept >>developing >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders >>of >>weather :) > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated. > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we did >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic circulation as >suggested in the article > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > >More notable in the video of course. > >Regards > >Jimmy Deguara > > >>Matt Smith >> >>Peter Creswick wrote: >> >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ >> > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>to:majordomo at world.std.com >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >>your >> > message. >> > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >>to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: smoke Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:13:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Brad in Perth has also been updating bushfire photos (many of Mt Hotham and area) and has added a number of images taken during Saturday's fires in Canberra, which show some scenes that it is hard to believe that you are looking at a city like Canberra   http://darb.net/misc-hotham-fires
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: smoke

Pictures from Bussy taken in Rutherglen ~6.30pm tonight......shows horrid conditions continuing.
 
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: aus-wx: smoke

finally got a large dose of smoke from the vic.-nsw fires here, sure looks speccy,
and that sun!!!!!!!
 
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 Embedded Content: IMSTP78.gif: 00000001,7549326e,00000000,00000000 X-Originating-IP: [144.138.156.229] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:36:25 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2003 11:36:25.0942 (UTC) FILETIME=[A99E7F60:01C2C2D3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Here,Here Tony, If parents took more responsibility (I am one) maybe we would be able to stop some of them...? I agree with your comments it is so hard to be a parent these days. Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:02:24 +1100 > >At 06:48 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >>Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with >>some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase >>their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause >>taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. >>However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally >>responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I >>have no sympathy for these mungrels. > >I agree with parental responsibility. As a kid, it was unthinkable to do >anything serious like arson. To do so would have been a way to earn a >collection of boot prints on one's rear end. Sadly these days, all the pop >psychologists have convinced everyone that it's harmful to physically >punish children. And it worked both ways, if we, as kids, did something >positive - put in hard work, helped someone out or did well at school, >there were rewards. > >In the longer term, it would have taken a lot of hard work to "pay" for the >damage done - grounding, working to repair damage, etc. In those days >(actually, not THAT long ago!), kids were taught to be responsible for >their actions, and parents accept responsibility for what their kids did >wrong. > >73 de Tony, VK3JED >http://vkradio.com > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >message. >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Planes & storms Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:01:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, A couple of stunning images sent in by Will Lanting - (aviation photographer) taken at Melbourne airport, that will have all of the plane / storm enthusiasts out there drooling..... can be found here... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter02.htm Roll on the next storm...... Enjoy!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:21:51 +1100 From: Matthew Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: First hand account: Canberra aerial firefighting Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Incredible Laurier... thanks for posting that here, awesome to read it from a firefighting pilots perspective. Thanks! Matt Smith Laurier Williams wrote: > This was a very first hand perspective of last Saturday afternoon in > Canberra, from a copter firefighter's viewpoint. > I wondered how the choppers were navigating through that thick smoke - it > looks like they went "by eye" and very slowly. > > Laurier > > --------------------------------------- > > > Black Sat Fires in Canberra (Air Ops) > > > For those that are interested just got back from spending the past > four > days working in one of the Air Attack ships on the massive bushfires > burning in the Australian Capital Territory. Below is a list of the > aircraft we had at the Helibase. > > > > 2 x S-64E Aircranes (Erickson) > > 1 x K-Max (Superior Helicopters) > > 1 x 204 (Heliquip) > > 1 x 205 (Helipro NZ) > > 1 x BK-117 (Lifeflight Melbourne) > > 1 x 500E (Marine Helicopters) > > 2 x 206L (Helicorp & G & A Helicopters) > > 1 x EC-120 (Canberra Helicopters) > > 3 x 206B (Southwest Helicopters, Unknown) > > 3 x AS350s (Heli Aust, Rotor Lift) > > 1 x Seahawk (Royal Australian Navy) > > 1 x AS350 (Royal Australian Navy) > > > > Basically we were airborne every day from the Friday I got there till > yesterday. The first day we were based at Eurialla (should be Uriarra) > Helibase but at > 10.0am on the Sat morning the McKinley fire we were working on got out > of control and was headed back towards downtown Canberra. The helibase > was evacuated and all equipment headed for the Nicholl oval which became > the Helibase, at least so far anyway. > > Sat was a day from ####. The fire was burning approx 20km away in the > morning and with the spotting and ferocity of it, caused by 38 deg > Celcius temps and 50 MPH winds it got up a head of steam. With aircraft > stretched thin we did what we could but by 2pm things were getting real > bad. We got a call from one of the other air attacks saying they needed > the Crane around at Weston Creek as fire was already in the houses > (Weston is a suburb of Canberra City). As we closed in the skies became > black as night, the only way we could see anything was the brightness > created by the burning hills and houses around us. It was like going > through a tunnel of fire. Words cant really explain what it was like. > > > > As we took the crane in to find some targets it got even darker. We > > were > about 1/4 mile in front of Mike and Jim in the Crane and all they could > see was our flashing strobe on the tail of the Longranger. Out in the > smoke and fire were two other aircraft and it was a case of all eyes out > the windows keeping an eye out. At 2.30pm it was like it was midnight, > pitch black with an erie red glow. > > > > Fast forwarding and when we finally handed the crane over to Ashley > > and > jim in the other air attack machines we took the Kmax and headed for > Duffy (this was the worst affected suburb losing over 200 houses). We > had Mike in tow, sitting between our 5 and 6o'clock, only a hundred feet > or so above the houses and at about 50 knots because viz sucked big > time. We ended up going between tall building in downtown Woden as we > inched our way to Duffy. > > > Once there it was like a war movie. One out of every ten houses were > > still > there. It was impossible to work out where to start. Jayson and I > started looking for targets for the Kmax as well as water sources but > Mike had already decided to pull water out of the swimming pools. Now > the Kmax is one #### of a machine, with a 100ft long line he was pulling > water out of a pool behind a house that was already well alight and > dropping it on the neighbours place to try and save that. It was an > amazing and sobering sight. One old guy waved like mad at us to help as > his house was just starting to burn so we got Mike over pointed out what > was needed and after about ten loads from the neighbours swimming pool, > the house was saved. Needless to say he was very greatful. > > > > This was a common scene that afternoon and evening. Again fast > > forwarding. > We had to bug out about 7.45pm and it was a very sombre mood with all > the crews that night. However the stories were amazing. Our original > helibase at Eurialla was over run by the fire and didnt exist anymore, > nor did the town, all forty houses were gone also. > > > > > During one fire front we worked on Rick dropped me off to try and pull > down a fence so that two horses could get out as they were cornered by > fire. Being stuck in the middle of a fireground and relying on the Kmax > and Tony in the AS350 to keep the flames back with bucket loads of > water, while trying to rip the fences down, was a very character > building moment and one I wont forget. These pilots do a #### of a job > and for once I am glad that I got to experience their handiwork first > hand. And yes the horses did survive. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Planes & storms Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 23:26:33 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Very nice. The ground's the place for the 777 to be with that sort of mammatus around!! Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill Sent: Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:02 PM To: Aussie-wx Subject: aus-wx: Planes & storms Evening all, A couple of stunning images sent in by Will Lanting - (aviation photographer) taken at Melbourne airport, that will have all of the plane / storm enthusiasts out there drooling..... can be found here... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter02.htm Roll on the next storm...... Enjoy!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full sized images, but for now take a look at this!. http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and I > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are still > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were ok.Also > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went around > the world! > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the sky > >>is > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if > >>you > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > >> > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > >>developing > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders > >>of > >>weather :) > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated. > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we did > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic circulation as > >suggested in the article > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > >Regards > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > >>Matt Smith > >> > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > >> > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >>your > >> > message. > >> > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >> > >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >> message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "third" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 05:57:12 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com frightening stuff ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Creswick" To: "aussie-weather" Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:09:39 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them. Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys", blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!! Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian tradition - find someone to blame for everything). Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical response. In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of 6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease.. there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents, the medical profession, the state,? We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots, not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary. Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70 years old - do we blame his parents?? This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times. Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian, France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx 350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime! And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those inflicting it and serving no other purpose. I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings have done so. Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more "weather" time on this list. Cheers, Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:55:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Don, What a fantastic response. I know exactly what you are referring to in terms of the findings from the US "death row". I agree it was non-weather related but I could not sit back and take this "follow the media" crap that people have reacted to. Our current society (influence from videos, media, games etc) have created the problem we have today. Then the quick fix band-aid solution is what has been suggested by some on this list. It is far more complex than that. Weather related.... stratocumulus here at the moment. Apparently in terms of fires, there are serious fires in the Snowy Mountains that are of concern. Sunday should bring back strong heating in Eastern Australia. One gets the feeling that such heating across Australia should flows of moisture inland with development of major inland lows which seems to be happening in NW Australia. It seems too long ago when I have noted this sort of behaviour. Jimmy Deguara At 07:09 AM 24/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Hi all, >I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day >or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because >that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them. >Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I >have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys", >blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!! >Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra >were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson >Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian >tradition - find someone to blame for everything). > >Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire >somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware >that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red >necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and >executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical >response. >In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire >that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was >modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of >6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease.. >there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were >at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for >him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents, >the medical profession, the state,? >We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots, >not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson >relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary. >Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to >hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70 >years old - do we blame his parents?? >This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times. >Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop >off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for >sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year >in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more >than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of >the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's >population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian, >France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx >350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime! >And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything >that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any >harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a >computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without >refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now >know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those >inflicting it and serving no other purpose. > >I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed >that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings >have done so. > >Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or >disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more >"weather" time on this list. > >Cheers, > >Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Planes & storms Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 07:59:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com The one with the plane tail showing is a real beauty!!! > Evening all, > > A couple of stunning images sent in by Will Lanting - (aviation > photographer) taken at Melbourne airport, that will have all of the > plane / storm enthusiasts out there drooling..... can be found here... > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter02.htm > > Roll on the next storm...... > > Enjoy!! > > Jane > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:13:17 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually Don, Arson has EVERYTHING to do with the list. Bushfire is a form of natural weather and arson is a form of starter. At 07:09 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote: >Hi all, >I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day >or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because >that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them. >Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I >have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys", >blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!! >Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra >were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson >Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian >tradition - find someone to blame for everything). > >Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire >somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware >that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red >necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and >executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical >response. >In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire >that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was >modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of >6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease.. >there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were >at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for >him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents, >the medical profession, the state,? >We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots, >not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson >relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary. >Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to >hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70 >years old - do we blame his parents?? >This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times. >Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop >off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for >sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year >in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more >than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of >the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's >population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian, >France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx >350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime! >And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything >that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any >harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a >computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without >refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now >know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those >inflicting it and serving no other purpose. > >I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed >that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings >have done so. > >Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or >disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more >"weather" time on this list. > >Cheers, > >Don White > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: aus-wx: snow in Davos Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:14:11 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Weather related.... it is snowing in Davos, Switzerland. Greetings from Klipsi, limo driver in Davos for a few days (world economic forum) having fun in a new Range Rover ;-) +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:52:32 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rubbish Glen... the natural starting of fires may be weather related. ... nothing else. Don W Glen O'Riley wrote: > > Actually Don, Arson has EVERYTHING to do with the list. Bushfire is a form > of natural weather and arson is a form of starter. > > At 07:09 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote: > >Hi all, > >I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day > >or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because > >that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them. > >Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I > >have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys", > >blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!! > >Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra > >were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson > >Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian > >tradition - find someone to blame for everything). > > > >Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire > >somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware > >that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red > >necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and > >executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical > >response. > >In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire > >that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was > >modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of > >6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease.. > >there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were > >at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for > >him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents, > >the medical profession, the state,? > >We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots, > >not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson > >relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary. > >Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to > >hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70 > >years old - do we blame his parents?? > >This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times. > >Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop > >off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for > >sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year > >in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more > >than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of > >the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's > >population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian, > >France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx > >350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime! > >And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything > >that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any > >harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a > >computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without > >refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now > >know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those > >inflicting it and serving no other purpose. > > > >I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed > >that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings > >have done so. > > > >Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or > >disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more > >"weather" time on this list. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Don White > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:56:21 +1100 From: Don White X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: Aussie Weather Subject: aus-wx: Weather concerns coming up. Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all and Jimmy... Jimmy, I agree with your comments..Sunday looks to be a critical day - possibly even Monday if a slight slowing occurs. With 850 temps progged into the high 20s, there could be major concerns with the following Wednesday to Thursday.... GASP predicting thickness levels around 585 over NSW as well. It could be a grim week.... we need rain and lots of it quickly. Don White +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:32:09 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time) X-Mailer: IncrediMail 2001 (1800838) From: "Richard Modistach" X-FID: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 X-FVER: X-CNT: ; To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
after that load of garbage do yourself and everyone
else a favour and stick to the weather.
 
richard
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Friday, 24 January 2003 6:44:07 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment
 
Hi all,
I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day
or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because
that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them.
Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I
have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys",
blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!!
Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra
were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson
Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian
tradition - find someone to blame for everything).

Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire
somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware
that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red
necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and
executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical
response.
In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire
that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was
modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of
6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease..
there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were
at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for
him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents,
the medical profession, the state,?
We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots,
not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson
relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary.
Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to
hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70
years old Re aus-wx Crime and Punishmen.ems - do we blame his parents??
This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times.
Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop
off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for
sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year
in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more
than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of
the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's
population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian,
France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx
350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime!
And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything
that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any
harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a
computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without
refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now
know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those
inflicting it and serving no other purpose.

I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed
that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings
have done so.

Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or
disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more
"weather" time on this list.

Cheers,

Don White
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP80.gif: 00000001,19565d06,00000000,00000000 From: "Tony Edmondston" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:41:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com As a parent of a 7 year old son, it's easy to see how he could come off the rails. Kids obviously learn their behaviours from their parents (anybody who thinks not isn't a parent) and are further influenced by their peer group - even at 7!!!! Some of his little mates are definite 'fire-bug' material, and if you have a look at their parents, theres no wondering why. The parents show little concern for any form of discipline, have poor or non-existent communication skills and basically let their kids run amok. The problem is....parents don't need a license to have kids, nor are they issued with an instruction book. Punishing the whole family unit in some form seems reasonable to me - money's not the answer however as most of these people don't have much anyway. You have kids - you have responsibilities. A lurker's two bobs worth Tony Edmondston ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:36 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > Here,Here Tony, > If parents took more responsibility (I am one) maybe we would be able to > stop some of them...? I agree with your comments it is so hard to be a > parent these days. > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > >From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Arson Arrests > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 19:02:24 +1100 > > > >At 06:48 PM 23/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > >>Jimmy, I do agree with some of the points but for a change disagree with > >>some. Bringing a fire bug to the front line I think would only increase > >>their appetite once they see what they can do. Prison is no use cause > >>taxpayers pay to keep them in a 5star hotel and does no use anyway. > >>However, parents should most definitely be liable! Parents ARE legally > >>responsible for their kids and therefore should be penalized as well. I > >>have no sympathy for these mungrels. > > > >I agree with parental responsibility. As a kid, it was unthinkable to do > >anything serious like arson. To do so would have been a way to earn a > >collection of boot prints on one's rear end. Sadly these days, all the pop > >psychologists have convinced everyone that it's harmful to physically > >punish children. And it worked both ways, if we, as kids, did something > >positive - put in hard work, helped someone out or did well at school, > >there were rewards. > > > >In the longer term, it would have taken a lot of hard work to "pay" for the > >damage done - grounding, working to repair damage, etc. In those days > >(actually, not THAT long ago!), kids were taught to be responsible for > >their actions, and parents accept responsibility for what their kids did > >wrong. > > > >73 de Tony, VK3JED > >http://vkradio.com > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > >message. > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:50:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Rubbish yourself, look at the original post! It had nothing to do with Canberra! It was talking about arsonists on a whole. The only thing that Canberra was looked at for was the arrest there. And now you are also trying to tell me arsonists don't create weather in the form of fire????? I noticed at some stage, someone in the wx group or elsewhere stated punishment of hole in back of head in public.....slightly drastic, BUT drastic measures are needed for a drastic upcoming situation. There has to be some sort of punishment which fits the crime and is fair to all parties or else it will continue to happen. At 08:52 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote: >Rubbish Glen... the natural starting of fires may be weather related. >... nothing else. >Don W > >Glen O'Riley wrote: > > > > Actually Don, Arson has EVERYTHING to do with the list. Bushfire is a form > > of natural weather and arson is a form of starter. > > > > At 07:09 AM 1/24/2003, you wrote: > > >Hi all, > > >I have just "turned on" to this WEATHER list for the first time in a day > > >or two only to be confronted by numerous irrelevent ravings (because > > >that's all they are) about arsonists and what we should do to them. > > >Emotions run high at times like this but advocating some of the things I > > >have just read disgusts me almost as much - burning their "toys", > > >blaming their parents, bring back the cane... for heaven's sake!!! > > >Everything I have read indicates that the damaging fires in Canberra > > >were started by nature. Only the cronies of Mr Howrard like Wilson > > >Tuckey try to blame (something that sadly has become an Australian > > >tradition - find someone to blame for everything). > > > > > >Ok, from what I have read, a teenager was charged with lighting a fire > > >somewhere else in Canberra the day after the main fires. I am not aware > > >that this case has been taken further yet but it appears some of the red > > >necks on this list have taken on the role of judge, jury and > > >executioner. Only in Jimmy's and Wendy's comments do I see any logical > > >response. > > >In Sydney in October a teenage boy was charged with lightning a fire > > >that destroyed property in SW Sydney. The case against him lapsed or was > > >modified because he had a mental illness that meant a maturity age of > > >6... but our society fails to recognise mental illness as a disease.. > > >there are limited facilities to cope with such people - his parents were > > >at their wits end, and they were unable to get the proper treatment for > > >him being unable to afford health costs. Do we blame him, his parents, > > >the medical profession, the state,? > > >We need to consider why anti-social behavour occurs - attack its roots, > > >not only its results. From memory 15-20 people were charge with arson > > >relating to bushfires in central eastern NSW last December - Janyuary. > > >Almost 50% of these were farmers - most likely incpmpetently trying to > > >hazard reduce rather than being malicious. One of the others was a 70 > > >years old - do we blame his parents?? > > >This issue is far to complex for knee jerk reaction is emotional times. > > >Why not bring back capital punsihment? Burn arsonists at the stake. Chop > > >off hands for thieves, tongues for offensive language, other parts for > > >sexual assault! What a wonderful, sick society we could have. Last year > > >in the US - a country that kills more of its citizens annually than more > > >than half all other countries on Earth and locks any in prison 25% of > > >the world's prisoners even though it has only 6% of the world's > > >population), had 11,627 gun related murders!. Canada, Great Britian, > > >France, Germany and Japan combined with a similar population had approx > > >350 between them. So much for the use of punishment to prevent crime! > > >And as for corporal punsihment, let's whip everyone who does anything > > >that anyone thinks is anti-social. To say the "cane did not do me any > > >harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a > > >computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without > > >refrigeration... so what? Hopefully in an elightened society, we now > > >know better than inflicing pain to relieve the frustrations of those > > >inflicting it and serving no other purpose. > > > > > >I have never written a non weather note to this list before. I am amazed > > >that so many who in previous times expressed outrage at such postings > > >have done so. > > > > > >Stick to the weather boys (and girls) and if you want to agree or > > >disagree with my comments, please do so direct and don't waste any more > > >"weather" time on this list. > > > > > >Cheers, > > > > > >Don White > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:08:03 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It is my humble opinion that our whole world needs a different mind set ..... no matter what the topic ! We are where we are now - weather included - because of the majority of human attitudes towards how life is lived. It is an extremely complex argument, but one that is pressing upon humanity whether or not people choose to become *involved*. We are all watching the furies of nature take its toll upon many parts of the world - but still people fight and argue about incidentals ! What does it take to stop people from fighting - in a war or simply on a weather list ? With love Sha --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:44:06 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Looks like a shot from a science fiction movie. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Simon Angell" To: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full > sized > images, but for now take a look at this!. > http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg > > Cheers > --------------------------------- > Simon Angell > Canberra, ACT > www.canberra-wx.com > --------------------------------------------- > Proud member of the > Australian Severe Weather Association. > www.severeweather.asn.au > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gavin O'Brien" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact > and I > > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are > still > > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were > ok.Also > > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went > around > > the world! > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to > the > sky > > >>is > > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been > used if > > >>you > > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > > >> > > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > > >>developing > > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the > wonders > > >>of > > >>weather :) > > > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much > appreciated. > > > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we > did > > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic > circulation > as > > >suggested in the article > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > > > >Regards > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > >>Matt Smith > > >> > > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > > >> > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > >> > > > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > -+ > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of > > >>your > > >> > message. > > >> > > > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > -- > > >> > > >> > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > of > your > > >> message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > >message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > message. > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:58:15 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires in HK X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Well I never did find out where the fires actually were. Not important enough to make it to the news. Yesterday was another day of very low visibility and a murky sky with a dull red sun. Today is a different story. The Red Fire Danger Warning (meaning fire danger is extreme) was lowered early this morning and replaced by the Strong Monsoon Signal (meaning gale-force winds expected). I looked out the window and it still looked murky and I wondered if the Observatory had made a mistake. Then at about 06:30 the monsoon hit and I could hear everything that wasn't fastened down getting blown everywhere. At 07:20 when I went out to the bus, all the murk and smoke had been blown out over the South China Sea and the sky was clear again. Two helicopters were still using the river in front of our place to fill their buckets but they were flying behind the nearby mountain so I couldn't tell where the remaining fire was. They were finished before 08:30 so I presume the last fire was out. Interesting to read all the thoughts on dealing with arsonists down there. Here the problem is not so much arsonists as idiots who must light their barbecue in the middle of the bush without clearing any debris from around it. The second group are those who for religious reasons have to offer up burnt offerings to their idols in the middle of the bush. What happens here is that they get taken to court, fined HK$250 (less than AUD$50) and then they go right out and do it again! As an experienced firefighter (in Oz) it makes me hopping mad, but what can one do about it? Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:23:37 +0800 Subject: aus-wx: Fires in HK, was Errorneous reports > Hey, with all you blokes sharing info on Canberra and NE Vic, it's now > looking pretty sus here. > Our bushfire season (except here they call them "hillfires" because the > only bush we have is where the hills are too steep to build on) is in > our winter - like now - and today there is a thick smoky haze > everywhere. Maximum visibility is about 1 km. The sun was a dull red > disc shining through the murk. > At first I though it might be extreme industrial pollution, but > helicopters are continually filling their buckets in the river in front > of our place so they must be emptying them somewhere. I haven't a clue > where the fires are yet, but in this region there is very seldom any > property damage. > If I can get any interesting news, I shall follow up later. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > [snip] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:46:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Full series can be found on my site now: www.canberra-wx.com/pics/fires/index.html Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:44 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > Looks like a shot from a science fiction movie. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Simon Angell" > To: > Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full > > sized > > images, but for now take a look at this!. > > http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg > > > > Cheers > > --------------------------------- > > Simon Angell > > Canberra, ACT > > www.canberra-wx.com > > --------------------------------------------- > > Proud member of the > > Australian Severe Weather Association. > > www.severeweather.asn.au > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gavin O'Brien" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > > > > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact > > and I > > > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are > > still > > > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were > > ok.Also > > > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went > > around > > > the world! > > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > > > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to > > the > > sky > > > >>is > > > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been > > used if > > > >>you > > > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > > > >> > > > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > > > >>developing > > > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the > > wonders > > > >>of > > > >>weather :) > > > > > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much > > appreciated. > > > > > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we > > did > > > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic > > circulation > > as > > > >suggested in the article > > > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > > > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > >>Matt Smith > > > >> > > > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > > >> > > > > > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > -+ > > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > > body of > > > >>your > > > >> > message. > > > >> > > > > > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- > > -- > > > >> > > > >> > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > > of > > your > > > >> message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > >message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > > message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Craig Arthur" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:15:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A very 'hellish' experience! Excellent collection of photos Simon. Thankfully my family friends' house in Duffy (just near Warragamba Ave) survived unscathed. I flew over on Sunday morning and Wednesday afternoon and got a few photos over Canberra and the VIC Alps, once I get the film processed I'll post them up... Craig Arthur Full series can be found on my site now: www.canberra-wx.com/pics/fires/index.html Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:17:43 +1030 From: Richard Albury User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Planes & storms Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Bussy wrote: >The one with the plane tail showing is a real beauty!!! > > > >>Evening all, >> >>A couple of stunning images sent in by Will Lanting - (aviation >>photographer) taken at Melbourne airport, that will have all of the >>plane / storm enthusiasts out there drooling..... can be found here... >> >>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/winter02.htm >> >>Roll on the next storm...... >> >>Enjoy!! >> >>Jane >> >> Hi Jane What superb photographs these are. I have but one question and this is it. How come no one has made these into a beaut screensaver -someone more clever than I. I have seen and downloaded screensavers that pales in compared to these terrific photographs.. Maybe with your permission Jane or the author, one of our weather watchers could turn these photo's into a downloadable screensaver for all. About crime and arson re Canberra. I chose to ignore most posting. Let the firemen do their thankless task and give them the credit they truly deserve without recriminations and scapegoating- time enough for that later. As a former member of the CFS in South Australia, I know what these brave men and women have to do in the face of apathy and yes. stupidity in the face of all the warnings about keeping properties clear of combustable material. The Adelaide Hills is a tinderbox now and all it'll take is a lightning strike or a niwit firebug and Adelaide will be faced with a fire of Canberra proportions. Any way Jane or some other person. give the screensaver idea some thought eh? Let us show the world what we can achieve :) Richard Kurralta Park.S.Aust >> >> >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your >> message. >> -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ >> >> >> > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > >. > > > From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:30:38 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi All,
 
Can anyone tell me where the smoke that is in the sky to the west of Mona Vale is coming from?  Time 16.25 Friday.
Judy Mayo
 From: "Peter Konnecke" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:32:15 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Adam,
 
The smoke is liely to be coming from several outbreaks in the areas north of the Blue Mountains.
 
See the latest RFS fire map (yesterdays) for details at http://www.rfs.nsw.gov.au/CombinedFires23012003_1700.pdf
 
Peter
Beacon Hill
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Mayo
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW

Hi All,
 
Can anyone tell me where the smoke that is in the sky to the west of Mona Vale is coming from?  Time 16.25 Friday.
Judy Mayo
 X-Originating-IP: [144.138.240.241] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:37:08 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 10:37:08.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BCD9F40:01C2C394] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Simon, quite spectacular! what time was it and what area is shown? Have not heard from you for a while.Are you ready for Sunday? Gavin SSWW Canberra >From: "Simon Angell" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 > >Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full >sized >images, but for now take a look at this!. >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg > >Cheers >--------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------------- >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------------------------------------- >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gavin O'Brien" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and >I > > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are >still > > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were >ok.Also > > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went >around > > the world! > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the >sky > > >>is > > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used >if > > >>you > > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > > >> > > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > > >>developing > > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the >wonders > > >>of > > >>weather :) > > > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated. > > > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we >did > > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic >circulation >as > > >suggested in the article > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > > > >Regards > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > >>Matt Smith > > >> > > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > > >> > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > >> > > > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body >of > > >>your > > >> > message. > > >> > > > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > >> > > >> >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > >> message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > >message. > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:59:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I am waiting on the photgraper to gert back to me, so as far as i can tell it was in gilmore area, looking at the mt's behind kambah.... as for sunday, Fire Wx is very bad, and not looking foward to it, but we are prepared here... As for the late change after a 40C day....Bring it on...after 12am that is...thats when i finish work. i at least want some decent from this change.... Cheers --------------------------------- Simon Angell Canberra, ACT www.canberra-wx.com --------------------------------------------- Proud member of the Australian Severe Weather Association. www.severeweather.asn.au -------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > Hi Simon, quite spectacular! what time was it and what area is shown? > Have not heard from you for a while.Are you ready for Sunday? > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > >From: "Simon Angell" > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 > > > >Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full > >sized > >images, but for now take a look at this!. > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg > > > >Cheers > >--------------------------------- > >Simon Angell > >Canberra, ACT > >www.canberra-wx.com > >--------------------------------------------- > >Proud member of the > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > >www.severeweather.asn.au > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gavin O'Brien" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > > > > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and > >I > > > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are > >still > > > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were > >ok.Also > > > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went > >around > > > the world! > > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > > > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the > >sky > > > >>is > > > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used > >if > > > >>you > > > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > > > >> > > > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > > > >>developing > > > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the > >wonders > > > >>of > > > >>weather :) > > > > > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated. > > > > > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we > >did > > > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic > >circulation > >as > > > >suggested in the article > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > > > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > >>Matt Smith > > > >> > > > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > > >> > > > > > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body > >of > > > >>your > > > >> > message. > > > >> > > > > > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > >> message. > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > >message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > >your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.31.48.3] From: "michael king" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:53:31 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 23:53:31.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC774630:01C2C403] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Where's that taken from Simon and what is it a picture of?

>From: "Simon Angell"
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003
>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100
>
>Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full sized
>images, but for now take a look at this!.
>http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg
>
>Cheers
>---------------------------------
>Simon Angell
>Canberra, ACT
>www.canberra-wx.com
>---------------------------------------------
>Proud member of the
>Australian Severe Weather Association.
>www.severeweather.asn.au
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gavin O'Brien"
>To:
>Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003
>
>
> > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and I
> > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are still
> > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were ok.Also
> > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went
>around
> > the world!
> > Gavin SSWW Canberra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Jimmy Deguara
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100
> > >
> > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote:
> > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the
>sky
> > >>is
> > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if
> > >>you
> > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff.
> > >>
> > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept
> > >>developing
> > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders
> > >>of
> > >>weather :)
> > >
> > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated.
> > >
> > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we did
> > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic circulation
>as
> > >suggested in the article
> > >
> > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg
> > >
> > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg
> > >
> > >More notable in the video of course.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > >
> > >>Matt Smith
> > >>
> > >>Peter Creswick wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/
> > >> >
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Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: Smoke haze - was Humour Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:54:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Actually the smoke haze has been so thick and so extensive that it has reduced both the wind and temperatures in the Canberra region (and doubtless large areas of SE Australia). It is rather like having a semi-permanent layer of stratocumulus sitting over the area - with occasional sightings of a very red sun. It has been this way for much of the last two weeks. The cool changes and easterly sea-breezes have sometimes undercut the smoke haze - with clear air in the lowest 500-1000m above ground level and smoke haze above. Perhaps the clearest day in the last fortnight was the morning of last Saturday in the areas to the north and northwest of where fire was burning - a reflection of the wind strength that day. The impact of the smoke haze has been problematic for BoM forecasting. Dave Williams from the local BoM was saying on the radio that the haze is suppressing maximum temps by around 3C - not necessarily totally bad when we might otherwise be expecting temps close to 40C. Interestingly, there appears to have been less impact on minimum temps (unlike the impact that water vapour has). The haze has reduced wind strength by restricting heating at the surface thereby limiting the mixing down of stronger winds aloft - particulary during the afternoons. I suspect the haze has also prevented some convective shower and storm activity from developing as well. There have been a number of days in the last couple of days where the Wagga trace has suggested enough conditional instability that on a normal summer day would have supported some development on the ranges. This has been notably absent (judging by radar/lightning tracker - needless to say it is impossible to see clouds from Canberra in any case). Patrick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen O'Riley" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Humour > Geeze I love that one......most people know that in any decent fire, the > heat causes enough wind to displace smoke so more air can be sucked in, > thus the rising column in any decent established fire. > > At 07:52 AM 1/23/2003, you wrote: > >Or this report from someone on the radio during the bushfire's on Wednesday, > >"The wind has remained calm because the smoke is stopping it from picking > >up...." > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Tina Jones" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:34:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Michael,
 
I am glad to hear from you.  Are you and yours OK?????
 
Take care,
 
Tina.
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Where's that taken from Simon and what is it a picture of?

>From: "Simon Angell"
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>Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full sized
>images, but for now take a look at this!.
>http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg
>
>Cheers
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003
>
>
> > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact and I
> > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are still
> > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were ok.Also
> > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went
>around
> > the world!
> > Gavin SSWW Canberra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Jimmy Deguara
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100
> > >
> > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote:
> > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to the
>sky
> > >>is
> > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been used if
> > >>you
> > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff.
> > >>
> > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept
> > >>developing
> > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the wonders
> > >>of
> > >>weather :)
> > >
> > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much appreciated.
> > >
> > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but we did
> > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic circulation
>as
> > >suggested in the article
> > >
> > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg
> > >
> > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg
> > >
> > >More notable in the video of course.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > >
> > >>Matt Smith
> > >>
> > >>Peter Creswick wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/
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From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Red glowing arc of light Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:04:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
There has been an incredible amount of red being noticed in the skies of late !!  It first came to my attention as being prominent with the red/orange moon last Saturday, and the sun this past week has been like a huge, glowing red disc every evening as it sets.
Admittedly, all the fires here in Australia have contributed to what we are viewing, but I was very interested to read the article below.

Love
Sha
 
Space Shuttle Astronauts Videotape New Arc of Light
Thu Jan 23, 6:04 PM ET 

By Barbara Johnson http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030123/sc_nm/space_shuttle_dc_2

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (Reuters) - Astronauts videotaping thunderstorms from the space shuttle Columbia captured what scientists said on Thursday was a never-before-seen red glowing arc of light paralleling the curve of the Earth.

"Two nights ago over Africa was an extraordinary image. We saw a huge horizontal line of air glow which has been brightened by lightning below it which extended to several hundred miles horizontally and we feel it may be something new," said Dr. Yoav Yair.

Yair, project coordinator for Israeli experiments on board the Columbia in its current mission, said analysis would attempt over the next few weeks to confirm scientists' initial impression that the glow is neither a sprite nor an elf, two other electrical phenomena associated with thunderstorms.

"It is raw data hot from the oven," Yair said. "It's a grainy and noisy image but for scientists it's a treasure trove. That's what we like."

Scientists were excited by the news that astronauts on Sunday captured the first-ever pictures of elves taken from space with a calibrated camera. The shuttle and its seven-member crew, which includes Israel's first astronaut, Ilan Ramon, are on a 16-day science mission that began on Jan. 16.

The study of sprites, elves and other luminosities associated with thunderstorms is part of what Yair described as a new discipline in the field of upper atmospheric physics. Sprites, which are red flashes shooting up from thunderstorms, were discovered only as recently as 1989, followed by elves, which are spreading red doughnut shapes, in 1994.

The latest luminosity, Yair said, was a narrow limb-like glow, hundreds of miles in length, red in color and probably made of nitrogen. Yair said the band was especially bright.

"It seems that the atmosphere still holds surprises for us," Yair said.

Yair said scientists studying these electrical discharges were looking to further basic science rather than develop specific products.

"But if you understand the global electrical circuit, and if you want to fly certain high flying aircraft or even satellites or if you want to move things through this layer of atmosphere then you have to know really well what's going on up there in terms of electricity," Yair said.


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 From: "Brian Hamilton" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Red glowing arc of light Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:17:31 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi
Brian here from New Zealand
New to this list.
We had a very red sun earlier in the week here in the auckland area.
 
Spring like (or early autumn like) weather here in NZ at the moment!
 
153mm for january so far here, 75mm is the average.
 
see my weather page:
 
if you are interested....
 
Cheers
Brian
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There has been an incredible amount of red being noticed in the skies of late !!  It first came to my attention as being prominent with the red/orange moon last Saturday, and the sun this past week has been like a huge, glowing red disc every evening as it sets.
Admittedly, all the fires here in Australia have contributed to what we are viewing, but I was very interested to read the article below.

Love
Sha
 
Space Shuttle Astronauts Videotape New Arc of Light
Thu Jan 23, 6:04 PM ET 

By Barbara Johnson http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030123/sc_nm/space_shuttle_dc_2

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (Reuters) - Astronauts videotaping thunderstorms from the space shuttle Columbia captured what scientists said on Thursday was a never-before-seen red glowing arc of light paralleling the curve of the Earth.

"Two nights ago over Africa was an extraordinary image. We saw a huge horizontal line of air glow which has been brightened by lightning below it which extended to several hundred miles horizontally and we feel it may be something new," said Dr. Yoav Yair.

Yair, project coordinator for Israeli experiments on board the Columbia in its current mission, said analysis would attempt over the next few weeks to confirm scientists' initial impression that the glow is neither a sprite nor an elf, two other electrical phenomena associated with thunderstorms.

"It is raw data hot from the oven," Yair said. "It's a grainy and noisy image but for scientists it's a treasure trove. That's what we like."

Scientists were excited by the news that astronauts on Sunday captured the first-ever pictures of elves taken from space with a calibrated camera. The shuttle and its seven-member crew, which includes Israel's first astronaut, Ilan Ramon, are on a 16-day science mission that began on Jan. 16.

The study of sprites, elves and other luminosities associated with thunderstorms is part of what Yair described as a new discipline in the field of upper atmospheric physics. Sprites, which are red flashes shooting up from thunderstorms, were discovered only as recently as 1989, followed by elves, which are spreading red doughnut shapes, in 1994.

The latest luminosity, Yair said, was a narrow limb-like glow, hundreds of miles in length, red in color and probably made of nitrogen. Yair said the band was especially bright.

"It seems that the atmosphere still holds surprises for us," Yair said.

Yair said scientists studying these electrical discharges were looking to further basic science rather than develop specific products.

"But if you understand the global electrical circuit, and if you want to fly certain high flying aircraft or even satellites or if you want to move things through this layer of atmosphere then you have to know really well what's going on up there in terms of electricity," Yair said.


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 X-Originating-IP: [203.54.206.103] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:16:57 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 03:16:58.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[383F8640:01C2C420] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Simon let me know when you know Gavin >From: "Simon Angell" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 01:59:22 +1100 > >I am waiting on the photgraper to gert back to me, so as far as i can tell >it was in gilmore area, looking at the mt's behind kambah.... > >as for sunday, Fire Wx is very bad, and not looking foward to it, but we >are >prepared here... As for the late change after a 40C day....Bring it >on...after 12am that is...thats when i finish work. i at least want some >decent from this change.... > >Cheers >--------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------------- >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au >-------------------------------------------------------------- >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gavin O'Brien" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:37 PM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > Hi Simon, quite spectacular! what time was it and what area is shown? > > Have not heard from you for a while.Are you ready for Sunday? > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Simon Angell" > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:20:42 +1100 > > > > > >Just a quick pic from a friend of mine. I am trying to Aquire the full > > >sized > > >images, but for now take a look at this!. > > >http://www.canberra-wx.com/tempfiles/canberra%20hills.jpg > > > > > >Cheers > > >--------------------------------- > > >Simon Angell > > >Canberra, ACT > > >www.canberra-wx.com > > >--------------------------------------------- > > >Proud member of the > > >Australian Severe Weather Association. > > >www.severeweather.asn.au > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gavin O'Brien" > > >To: > > >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:11 PM > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > > > > > > > Jimmy,I agree very real red sky .A chap from SMH has been in contact >and > > >I > > > > gave what info I had. Understand it will be in Saturday's SMH.We are > > >still > > > > very shocked.My brother rang from Berlin tonight to see if we were > > >ok.Also > > > > my sister in law from the Philippines aslo emailed us.It really went > > >around > > > > the world! > > > > Gavin SSWW Canberra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jimmy Deguara > > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: More Canberra Pics -Saturday 15 Jan 2003 > > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:35:27 +1100 > > > > > > > > > >At 11:03 AM 23/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > > > >>Wow Peter... those pictures are spectacular... that red colour to >the > > >sky > > > > >>is > > > > >>incredible... you would think a red filter of some sort had been >used > > >if > > > > >>you > > > > >>didnt know better! amazing stuff. > > > > >> > > > > >>Jimmy, that storm is spectacular! well done, I wonder why it kept > > > > >>developing > > > > >>meso after meso after meso but did not produce a touchdown.. the > > >wonders > > > > >>of > > > > >>weather :) > > > > > > > > > >Thanks for your interest and compliments Matt. Very much >appreciated. > > > > > > > > > >These systems are know to produce non supercellular tornadoes but >we > > >did > > > > >not note any. We did notice a funnel within the anticyclonic > > >circulation > > >as > > > > >suggested in the article > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd052.jpg > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd053.jpg > > > > > > > > > >More notable in the video of course. > > > > > > > > > >Regards > > > > > > > > > >Jimmy Deguara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Matt Smith > > > > >> > > > > >>Peter Creswick wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/Canberra/ > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > >> > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > >> > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the >body > > >of > > > > >>your > > > > >> > message. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > >> To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > > > >>to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > >> with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body >of > > >your > > > > >> message. > > > > > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > >To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > >with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > >your > > > > >message. > > > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > >your > > > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.54.206.103] From: "Gavin O'Brien" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Red glowing arc of light Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:39:33 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Jan 2003 03:39:33.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[60240CF0:01C2C423] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Brian, Welcome; You probably received smoke from our fires when they flared across from the Brindabella Ranges and burnt the pine plantations forcing convection to extreme heights , maybe 10,000 meters (it was as dark as night at 3pm last Saturday here (Gilmore) under the smoke plume.I was not able to get far enough away from Canberra to measure a angle to the top of the cloud .On Friday afternoon on my return frim Sydney I was able to distingush the smoke\cloud top from Marulan (about 160km NE of Canberra.I noticed that the plumes over the Brindabellas on Friday night were rising to great heights in light NE surface winds and relatively light northerly upper winds. It was too late to video them.The fires were visible on ridgetops over 60 km away through bonoculars.The other sources could have been the Snowy Mountains or the Victorian Alps Gavin O'Brien Southside Weather Watch Canberra ACT >From: "Brian Hamilton" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Red glowing arc of light >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:17:31 +1300 > >Hi >Brian here from New Zealand >New to this list. >We had a very red sun earlier in the week here in the auckland area. > >Spring like (or early autumn like) weather here in NZ at the moment! > >153mm for january so far here, 75mm is the average. > >see my weather page: >http://ps.gen.nz/~windy/otherdat.htm > >if you are interested.... > >Cheers >Brian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sha > To: Aussie Weather > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 2:04 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Red glowing arc of light > > > There has been an incredible amount of red being noticed in the skies of >late !! It first came to my attention as being prominent with the >red/orange moon last Saturday, and the sun this past week has been like a >huge, glowing red disc every evening as it sets. > Admittedly, all the fires here in Australia have contributed to what we >are viewing, but I was very interested to read the article below. > > Love > Sha > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Space Shuttle Astronauts Videotape New Arc of Light > Thu Jan 23, 6:04 PM ET > > By Barbara Johnson >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030123/sc_nm/space_shuttle_dc_2 > > CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (Reuters) - Astronauts videotaping thunderstorms >from the space shuttle Columbia captured what scientists said on Thursday >was a never-before-seen red glowing arc of light paralleling the curve of >the Earth. > > "Two nights ago over Africa was an extraordinary image. We saw a huge >horizontal line of air glow which has been brightened by lightning below it >which extended to several hundred miles horizontally and we feel it may be >something new," said Dr. Yoav Yair. > > > Yair, project coordinator for Israeli experiments on board the Columbia >in its current mission, said analysis would attempt over the next few weeks >to confirm scientists' initial impression that the glow is neither a sprite >nor an elf, two other electrical phenomena associated with thunderstorms. > > > "It is raw data hot from the oven," Yair said. "It's a grainy and noisy >image but for scientists it's a treasure trove. That's what we like." > > > Scientists were excited by the news that astronauts on Sunday captured >the first-ever pictures of elves taken from space with a calibrated camera. >The shuttle and its seven-member crew, which includes Israel's first >astronaut, Ilan Ramon, are on a 16-day science mission that began on Jan. >16. > > > The study of sprites, elves and other luminosities associated with >thunderstorms is part of what Yair described as a new discipline in the >field of upper atmospheric physics. Sprites, which are red flashes shooting >up from thunderstorms, were discovered only as recently as 1989, followed >by elves, which are spreading red doughnut shapes, in 1994. > > > The latest luminosity, Yair said, was a narrow limb-like glow, hundreds >of miles in length, red in color and probably made of nitrogen. Yair said >the band was especially bright. > > > "It seems that the atmosphere still holds surprises for us," Yair said. > > > Yair said scientists studying these electrical discharges were looking >to further basic science rather than develop specific products. > > > "But if you understand the global electrical circuit, and if you want to >fly certain high flying aircraft or even satellites or if you want to move >things through this layer of atmosphere then you have to know really well >what's going on up there in terms of electricity," Yair said. > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Lindsay Smail" To: Subject: aus-wx: Record high temp at Geelong Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:17:51 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Hi all, Geelong's highest ever daily maximum was recorded on Saturday 25th: 44.6 degrees at 3pm. This passes the previous record set on 16th and 19th January, 1908, (44.2). Although Geelong's temperatures have been measured at different locations over the period, the actual figures in 1908 were all considered official by the appropriate body at the time.

 

Lindsay Smail

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From: "Bussy" To: "aussie-weather" Subject: aus-wx: Difference? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:53:39 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
What is the difference between the visual and infrared sat pics? What is the infrared look for?
The visual pretty well explains itself :-)
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record high temp at Geelong Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:28:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Not trying here. Only 40.4 at 1655.
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Hi all, Geelong's highest ever daily maximum was recorded on Saturday 25th: 44.6 degrees at 3pm. This passes the previous record set on 16th and 19th January, 1908, (44.2). Although Geelong's temperatures have been measured at different locations over the period, the actual figures in 1908 were all considered official by the appropriate body at the time.

 

Lindsay Smail

Geelong Weather Services

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Email: gws at pipeline.com.au

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 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Victorian heat Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:36:13 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Have had reports from people out and about in Victoria this afternoon - the highest being 46.5°near 2pm (with instruments over flat ground in the shade of a tree, facing north) at Lara - Humidity 5% The official station at Avalon was approaching 45° ....and then my server fell over....... sorry this report is so late...... Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Brian Hamilton" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Difference? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:59:57 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
is that you bussie on the australian list?
infra red is heat...
and shows higher cloud as being colder
Cheers
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: Bussy
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Difference?

What is the difference between the visual and infrared sat pics? What is the infrared look for?
The visual pretty well explains itself :-)
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)
 From: "Patrick Tobin" To: Subject: aus-wx: From ash to snow?? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:30:24 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A long way off - but some of the models are now suggesting that by Friday this week some of the Alpine areas of Victoria and possibly NSW have a chance of collecting a few cm of the white stuff. Snow settling on blackened snow gums would make a bizarre (but welcome) scene.
 
In Canberra, it will be nice to see the sky again sometime...
 
Patrick
 X-Sender: carls at xenios.qldnet.com.au Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:37:02 +1000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Carl Smith Subject: Re: aus-wx: Difference? Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Difference?
Hi Bussy.

Infrared satellite cameras pick up electromagnetic radiation of slightly longer wavelength than red visible light, and there is a relationship between the intensity of the radiation and temperature.

The infrared images you get from various agencies are in fact negatives, so really cold areas with little infrared radiation such as high cloud tops appear very bright and hot areas like the land surface of outback Australia in summer appear black. They are produced as negatives as we humans like them to look somewhat like a 'normal' black and white photo of the clouds.

Water vapour images are a longer wavelength infrared which is readily absorbed by water vapour, so show flows of water vapour in the atmosphere quite well.

I am sure there are others who could give a better explanation than this!

Regards,
Carl.

What is the difference between the visual and infrared sat pics? What is the infrared look for?
The visual pretty well explains itself :-)
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Victorian heat Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:05:35 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Interesting to note that yesterday (25th January) was the second hottest day on record for Melbourne measuring a maximum of 44.1°. The highest temperature recorded was 45.6° on the 13th January 1939! (Climatological Extremes for MRO 1855-2002, BoM) Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: aus-wx: Victorian heat > Have had reports from people out and about in Victoria this afternoon - > the highest being 46.5°near 2pm (with instruments over flat ground in > the shade of a tree, facing north) at Lara - Humidity 5% The official > station at Avalon was approaching 45° ....and then my server fell > over....... sorry this report is so late...... > > Jane > > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:17:26 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I remember reading about reports of tornadoes occuring over Hiroshima after the detonation of the atomic bomb in Japan at the end of WW2. Apparently the huge amounts of heat energy released favoured the devlopment of tornadic formations for a number of days. Unsure whether the stories are mythical or not though as there are no photos (that I am aware of) to prove the reports. Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 6:15 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires > At 01:30 PM 22/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: > > >I'm not sure when I saw it (when I was young), but i've seen a fire tornado > >on tv before, tall column of rotating winds (red from fire) a lot bigger > >then a devil. The fire would have to create its own highly localised > >conditions to support something like this. > > Given the nature of fire, there's be ample hear to generate intense > convection and setup conditions suitable for tornado like structures to > develop. > > 73 de Tony, VK3JED > http://vkradio.com > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Crime and Punishment Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:48:41 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To say the "cane did not do me any harm" is just stupid. I survived for more than 75% of my life without a computer and hopefully suffered no harm... my parents got by without refrigeration... so what? I'm sorry Don, I seem to be missing your point here. Exactly what has computers & refrigeration got to do with discipline & punishment? The cave man got on fine without the wheel or fire too for a while... Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Difference? Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 08:30:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Difference?
Thanks for all the answers. That makes it a bit clearer. Thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Smith
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Difference?

Hi Bussy.

Infrared satellite cameras pick up electromagnetic radiation of slightly longer wavelength than red visible light, and there is a relationship between the intensity of the radiation and temperature.

The infrared images you get from various agencies are in fact negatives, so really cold areas with little infrared radiation such as high cloud tops appear very bright and hot areas like the land surface of outback Australia in summer appear black. They are produced as negatives as we humans like them to look somewhat like a 'normal' black and white photo of the clouds.

Water vapour images are a longer wavelength infrared which is readily absorbed by water vapour, so show flows of water vapour in the atmosphere quite well.

I am sure there are others who could give a better explanation than this!

Regards,
Carl.

What is the difference between the visual and infrared sat pics? What is the infrared look for?
The visual pretty well explains itself :-)
 
Bussy (Rutherglen NE Victoria)

 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:29:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Excellent report Jimmy, what an incredible storm system. I really like the area around Premer, Gunnedah for chasing, although as you mentioned there are some annoying tree line sections. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:29 AM Subject: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event > Hi, > > Finally I have been able to rack up sufficient time to get together this > special report > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-07.htm > > Here is a preview image > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd005.jpg > Staccato lightning strikes within the dust plume being blown out by outflow. > > There are quite a few lightning strikes that in the report I included just > main ones. The whole set of the images are at: > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122301.htm > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122302.htm > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122303.htm > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122304.htm > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122305.htm > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122306.htm > > I hope you enjoy it. Do visit back as videos are planned to be released of > this event. > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Peter May To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: A small thankyou Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:44:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi again all. I would like to publicly thank those in this list. Especially those who have helped me test some software. Whilst the subject was off topic in a way you guys never flamed me and helped with the situation here Canberra without really knowing. Currently one of the local fire brigades in my area is receiving 30 minute updates via sms of the local weather via the software you helped produce. My district is one of many currently threatened by the fires if the current conditions get the predicted winds. Funny I am moving to the coast and with the right winds the fire currently burning to the sount east of Canberra might join me there. well not funny, tragic really or ironic.. In a small but well needed way, you have all helped out. Again many thanks. Regards, Peter -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:58:50 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Canberra's bush fires Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 02:17 AM 26/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >I remember reading about reports of tornadoes occuring over Hiroshima after >the detonation of the atomic bomb in Japan at the end of WW2. Apparently the >huge amounts of heat energy released favoured the devlopment of tornadic >formations for a number of days. Unsure whether the stories are mythical or >not though as there are no photos (that I am aware of) to prove the reports. 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Check it out Jason. http://www.weatherdownunder.net/index.php Jimmy Deguara At 12:43 PM 26/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >Hi. > >Does any one know where I can buy an ANEMOMETER from? > >I live in cairns and track cyclones. So I need something that is reasonably >solid. > >Regards >Jason > > > > >***************************** Disclaimer ***************************** > >The contents of this electronic message and any attachments are >intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged or >confidential information. They may only be used for the purposes >for which they were supplied. If you are not the addressee, you are >notified that any transmission, distribution, downloading, printing or >photocopying of the contents of this message or attachments is >strictly prohibited. The privilege of confidentiality attached to >this message and attachments is not waived, lost or destroyed by >reason of mistaken delivery to you. 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So I need something that is reasonably > solid. > > Regards > Jason > > > > > ***************************** Disclaimer ***************************** > > The contents of this electronic message and any attachments are > intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged or > confidential information. They may only be used for the purposes > for which they were supplied. If you are not the addressee, you are > notified that any transmission, distribution, downloading, printing or > photocopying of the contents of this message or attachments is > strictly prohibited. The privilege of confidentiality attached to > this message and attachments is not waived, lost or destroyed by > reason of mistaken delivery to you. 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There is a wide range of weather instruments to suit your needs. > It is an online shop too with secure payment. Check it out Jason. > > http://www.weatherdownunder.net/index.php > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 12:43 PM 26/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: > >Hi. > > > >Does any one know where I can buy an ANEMOMETER from? > > > >I live in cairns and track cyclones. So I need something that is reasonably > >solid. > > > >Regards > >Jason > > > > > > > > > >***************************** Disclaimer ***************************** > > > >The contents of this electronic message and any attachments are > >intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged or > >confidential information. They may only be used for the purposes > >for which they were supplied. If you are not the addressee, you are > >notified that any transmission, distribution, downloading, printing or > >photocopying of the contents of this message or attachments is > >strictly prohibited. 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Astronauts study Aussie elves
From correspondents at Cape Canaveral, Florida
January 22, 2003 http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5874486%255E13762,00.html

ASTRONAUTS aboard the space shuttle Columbia have been focussing on "phantom" meteorological phenomenon above Australia known as elves and sprites.

NASA said the Columbia crew was also performing experiments on weightlessness, the propagation of calcium in the body and the formation of soot.

Over the weekend, astronaut David Brown trained two sophisticated Israeli-made cameras on storms over Australia and the South Pacific hoping to get a grip on a meteorological phenomenon peculiar to the upper atmosphere.

Ground-level analysis of the images has revealed the exceptional presence of sprites - luminous red electrical flashes - in the mesosphere to an altitude of 90km above cumulonimbus storm clouds.

Found in the most powerful storms - only one in 20 - the sprites last barely 0.1 millisecond. They are accompanied by elves, or electromagnetic impulses visible as red luminous rings, almost as short-lived as sprites.

Later this week, the Columbia crew will use the cameras to capture images of dust storms on the Earth's surface in search of a better understanding of their role and impact on climate.

The astronauts will use themselves as guinea pigs in an experiment on bone metabolism in weightlessness.

They have all taken doses of calcium in the form of biological markers to study how calcium disperses itself in the body, and where it settles.

The soot experiment, called LSP-2 (Laminar Soot Processes), will consist of burning a flame for several hours under various conditions to study the soot-formation process.

The origin of the minute carbon particulars comprising soot is one of the biggest unsolved puzzles in the science of combustion.

Agence France-Presse

 

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 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: ANEMOMETER Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:35:04 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Talk to Jane at http://www.stormchasers.au.com/ About 3/4 of the way down the page there's lots of stuff Kestrels, Davis etc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Bursztynowicz" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 1:43 PM Subject: aus-wx: ANEMOMETER > Hi. > > Does any one know where I can buy an ANEMOMETER from? > > I live in cairns and track cyclones. So I need something that is reasonably > solid. > > Regards > Jason > > > > > ***************************** Disclaimer ***************************** > > The contents of this electronic message and any attachments are > intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged or > confidential information. They may only be used for the purposes > for which they were supplied. 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If you receive this message in > error please notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:03:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby fence. The sight was unbelievable !! As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing gust of fury and then vanished !! What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. Here are some pictures I took : http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? Love Sha --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:23:11 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Sha, That seems to be a reasonably strong dust devil. I saw one beautiful one picking up dust a few days ago. No camera nor video. It had cyclonic (clockwise) rotation and was awesome. Oh well. Jimmy Deguara At 04:03 PM 26/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: >We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in >Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no >idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > >On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened >to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors >there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, >it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied >on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which >were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted >up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite >side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one >of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but >remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one >leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby >fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > >As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no >sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it >vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing >gust of fury and then vanished !! > >What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed >and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade >cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier >removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around >one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' >paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the >wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing >anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and >the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > >Here are some pictures I took : >http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > >Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > >Love >Sha > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 17:37:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Wow...if there were no clouds in the sky to spawn the tornado perhaps it was a clear-air vortex, i.e dust-devil or willy-willy. Deano ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in > Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no > idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > > On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened > to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors > there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, > it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied > on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which > were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted > up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite > side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one > of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but > remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one > leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby > fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > > As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no > sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it > vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing > gust of fury and then vanished !! > > What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed > and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade > cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier > removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around > one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' > paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the > wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing > anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and > the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > > Here are some pictures I took : > http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > > Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > > Love > Sha > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Brian Hamilton" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 19:43:55 +1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com maybe the sandpit's heat was enough to spark it off? you see this often in a hay paddock ...the hay can get lifted up 10m or higher..and carried across a fence to another paddock I have driven a tractor right through one of these before. Cheers Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > Hi Sha, > > That seems to be a reasonably strong dust devil. I saw one beautiful one > picking up dust a few days ago. No camera nor video. It had cyclonic > (clockwise) rotation and was awesome. Oh well. > > Jimmy Deguara > > At 04:03 PM 26/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: > >We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in > >Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no > >idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > > > >On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened > >to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors > >there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, > >it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied > >on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which > >were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted > >up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite > >side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one > >of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but > >remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one > >leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby > >fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > > > >As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no > >sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it > >vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing > >gust of fury and then vanished !! > > > >What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed > >and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade > >cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier > >removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around > >one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' > >paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the > >wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing > >anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and > >the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > > > >Here are some pictures I took : > >http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > > > >Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > > > >Love > >Sha > > > > > > > >--- > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:45:43 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks Jimmy. It certainly was stronger than anything I have seen before ! Quite often I have watched as they swirl the dust, as you say in a beautiful motion, but have never before seen such heavy items picked up as though they were leaves :) Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:23 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Hi Sha, That seems to be a reasonably strong dust devil. I saw one beautiful one picking up dust a few days ago. No camera nor video. It had cyclonic (clockwise) rotation and was awesome. Oh well. Jimmy Deguara --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:07:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all, Only took 3 pics today because there was virtually no contrast (as you can see from the first image taken looking north from Glenrowan in northeastern Victoria) http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon01.jpg The next 2 images were taken from Rutherglen...saw something in the sky which was a different colour, and with the ABC radio continually reporting fires in the northeast and east of the state and it being 42°C, I though I'd duck around the other side of town and check it out....not smoke at all, a cloud of dust, no vorticity associated with it, but this cloud of dust (minus Pigpen for those who remember)...apparently it happens all the time atm.....and traipsed across in front of me..Never seen anything like it http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon02.jpg http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon03.jpg Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:08:36 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I think it was just a thermal going off your yard, not a tornado touching down out of nothing. The yard is a bare heat source, the trees form a porous wall to the field the other side, also relatively bare, and a good heat source. If the thermal started in not in your yard but the field the other side, and started to draw air through the trees and gazebo, the updraft developing from the field would move that way, ie, towards the gazebo. It was probably air inflowing both sides of the tree line that concentrated in the biggest gap where the gazebo is that produced the wind effect. The rotation is natural when two opposing flows meet at an orifice. Since they were both hot and buoyant they swirl and rise. You often see willy willies and dust devils etc form at some barrier on the ground, or slight hump or depression for this reason. Sha wrote: > > We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in > Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no > idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > > On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened > to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors > there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, > it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied > on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which > were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted > up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite > side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one > of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but > remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one > leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby > fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > > As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no > sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it > vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing > gust of fury and then vanished !! > > What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed > and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade > cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier > removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around > one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' > paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the > wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing > anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and > the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > > Here are some pictures I took : > http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > > Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > > Love > Sha > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:53:57 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: aus-wx: Another pretty sunset in Melbourne Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yet another pretty sunset in Melbourne, this time on Saturday Jan 25th. Unfortunately, there were many shots that were there for the taking, but we were unable to find a parking spot in time. :-( Have a look at http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html P.S. I've re-arranged the photos in reverse chronological order so that any new ones are at the top. 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:44:59 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't mean to disappoint but I'd almost bet on a dust devil or whirl wind as we call them here. Especially seeing your surrounding area. Same as ours here. They don't as a rule leave a trail but can be quite destructive. Dunno why but to the East of here there are some really big ones just lately and normally two or three "travelling" together. Why that is I'll never know. Just my opinion :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in > Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have no > idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > > On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened > to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors > there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I watched, > it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied > on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, which > were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted > up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite > side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one > of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but > remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one > leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby > fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > > As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no > sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it > vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing > gust of fury and then vanished !! > > What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed > and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some shade > cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier > removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around > one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' > paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of the > wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing > anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and > the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > > Here are some pictures I took : > http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > > Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > > Love > Sha > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:47:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Saw one of those last summer that lifted the loose hay hundreds of metres into the air. The family and I stopped to watch as it was a great sight to see especially as it was easy to see with all the hay in it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hamilton" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:43 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > maybe the sandpit's heat was enough to spark it off? > you see this often in a hay paddock ...the hay can get lifted up 10m or > higher..and carried across a fence to another paddock > I have driven a tractor right through one of these before. > > Cheers > Brian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > > > > Hi Sha, > > > > That seems to be a reasonably strong dust devil. I saw one beautiful one > > picking up dust a few days ago. No camera nor video. It had cyclonic > > (clockwise) rotation and was awesome. Oh well. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > At 04:03 PM 26/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > >We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in > > >Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane. I have > no > > >idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ???? > > > > > >On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I > happened > > >to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French > doors > > >there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !! As I > watched, > > >it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was > tied > > >on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks. Then, two of the four sleepers, > which > > >were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just > lifted > > >up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the > opposite > > >side of the sandpit !! Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from > one > > >of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but > > >remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with > one > > >leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby > > >fence. The sight was unbelievable !! > > > > > >As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared. There was absolutely no > > >sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it > > >vacated. It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an > amazing > > >gust of fury and then vanished !! > > > > > >What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left > unscathed > > >and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit. There was also some > shade > > >cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had > earlier > > >removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped > around > > >one of the legs Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs' > > >paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side. The fury of > the > > >wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing > > >anywhere else !! This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds > and > > >the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening. > > > > > >Here are some pictures I took : > > >http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html > > > > > >Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? > > > > > >Love > > >Sha > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > > >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:49:43 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Quite a few years ago one "tore" the roof off my Dad's old stable after getting inside. The old cement sheet (possibly asbestos) roof not standing a chance. It's now tin at least :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > Thanks Jimmy. It certainly was stronger than anything I have seen before ! > Quite often I have watched as they swirl the dust, as you say in a beautiful > motion, but have never before seen such heavy items picked up as though they > were leaves :) > > Love > Sha > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:23 PM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > > > Hi Sha, > > That seems to be a reasonably strong dust devil. I saw one beautiful one > picking up dust a few days ago. No camera nor video. It had cyclonic > (clockwise) rotation and was awesome. Oh well. > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:54:27 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Grin. I know exactly where that is and believe me, that is a very common occurrence at present. Probably coz I live there. Bigger grin. BTW Jane has a nice new car! What a beauty! The shot is looking from just east of the tower hill in Rutherglen looking (basically) towards Albury. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes > Evening all, > > Only took 3 pics today because there was virtually no contrast (as you > can see from the first image taken looking north from Glenrowan in > northeastern Victoria) > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon01.jpg > > The next 2 images were taken from Rutherglen...saw something in the sky > which was a different colour, and with the ABC radio continually > reporting fires in the northeast and east of the state and it being > 42°C, I though I'd duck around the other side of town and check it > out....not smoke at all, a cloud of dust, no vorticity associated with > it, but this cloud of dust (minus Pigpen for those who > remember)...apparently it happens all the time atm.....and traipsed > across in front of me..Never seen anything like it > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon02.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon03.jpg > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:05:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Don't get me wrong everyone. The photo's Jane has taken are good and I don't take anything away from that. But especially as most of the paddocks here have nothing but dirt left in them, it is a fairly common occurrence at present. We take it for granted and maybe I should be getting shots of it. I showed Jane a paddock where the horses are that hasn't had grass in it for over twelve months. Heaps of dust and whirl winds come from there and I just take it for granted that this is a normal thing. Better re-think and take some pics :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes > Evening all, > > Only took 3 pics today because there was virtually no contrast (as you > can see from the first image taken looking north from Glenrowan in > northeastern Victoria) > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon01.jpg > > The next 2 images were taken from Rutherglen...saw something in the sky > which was a different colour, and with the ABC radio continually > reporting fires in the northeast and east of the state and it being > 42°C, I though I'd duck around the other side of town and check it > out....not smoke at all, a cloud of dust, no vorticity associated with > it, but this cloud of dust (minus Pigpen for those who > remember)...apparently it happens all the time atm.....and traipsed > across in front of me..Never seen anything like it > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon02.jpg > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon03.jpg > > Jane > > -------------------------------- > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > Australian Sky & Weather > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > ***The journey is the reward*** > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.228.4] From: "Ben Jerrems" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:07:19 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 11:07:20.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[1848B940:01C2C52B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

Geez u post alot!lol :)




BEANZVISION Photographics.
>From: "Bussy"
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>To:
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes
>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:05:32 +1100
>
>Don't get me wrong everyone. The photo's Jane has taken are good and I don't
>take anything away from that. But especially as most of the paddocks here
>have nothing but dirt left in them, it is a fairly common occurrence at
>present. We take it for granted and maybe I should be getting shots of it. I
>showed Jane a paddock where the horses are that hasn't had grass in it for
>over twelve months. Heaps of dust and whirl winds come from there and I just
>take it for granted that this is a normal thing. Better re-think and take
>some pics :-)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jane ONeill"
>To: "Aussie-wx"
>Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:07 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes
>
>
> > Evening all,
> >
> > Only took 3 pics today because there was virtually no contrast (as you
> > can see from the first image taken looking north from Glenrowan in
> > northeastern Victoria)
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon01.jpg
> >
> > The next 2 images were taken from Rutherglen...saw something in the sky
> > which was a different colour, and with the ABC radio continually
> > reporting fires in the northeast and east of the state and it being
> > 42°C, I though I'd duck around the other side of town and check it
> > out....not smoke at all, a cloud of dust, no vorticity associated with
> > it, but this cloud of dust (minus Pigpen for those who
> > remember)...apparently it happens all the time atm.....and traipsed
> > across in front of me..Never seen anything like it
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon02.jpg
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon03.jpg
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > cadence at australianskynweather.com
> >
> > Australian Sky & Weather
> > http://www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> > ***The journey is the reward***
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 22:12:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Must admit Bussy, I was thinking about this on the way home - people who spend most of their time in cities (or in states are areas that get rain) a) don't see how bad it really is unless they get in a car an go and have a look for themselves, and b) don't see that sort of thing often....pics please!!!!! Speaking of which, I noticed in NSW in November and also today in northern Victoria, you can find a herd of animals very easily atm - just find a dust cloud and look underneath it - even cattle or sheep stamping while being had fed raises clouds of dust, and it's that fine it becomes easily suspended!! Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bussy" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes > Don't get me wrong everyone. The photo's Jane has taken are good and I don't > take anything away from that. But especially as most of the paddocks here > have nothing but dirt left in them, it is a fairly common occurrence at > present. We take it for granted and maybe I should be getting shots of it. I > showed Jane a paddock where the horses are that hasn't had grass in it for > over twelve months. Heaps of dust and whirl winds come from there and I just > take it for granted that this is a normal thing. Better re-think and take > some pics :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jane ONeill" > To: "Aussie-wx" > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:07 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes > > > > Evening all, > > > > Only took 3 pics today because there was virtually no contrast (as you > > can see from the first image taken looking north from Glenrowan in > > northeastern Victoria) > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon01.jpg > > > > The next 2 images were taken from Rutherglen...saw something in the sky > > which was a different colour, and with the ABC radio continually > > reporting fires in the northeast and east of the state and it being > > 42°C, I though I'd duck around the other side of town and check it > > out....not smoke at all, a cloud of dust, no vorticity associated with > > it, but this cloud of dust (minus Pigpen for those who > > remember)...apparently it happens all the time atm.....and traipsed > > across in front of me..Never seen anything like it > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon02.jpg > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Jan03/0126jon03.jpg > > > > Jane > > > > -------------------------------- > > Jane ONeill - Melbourne > > cadence at australianskynweather.com > > > > Australian Sky & Weather > > http://www.stormchasers.au.com > > > > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > ***The journey is the reward*** > > -------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- - > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au---------------------------- -- > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 21:32:25 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* From: Dale Small To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Hi Sha.

This morning we had 3 whirlwinds on this property.. one of them sat above my car and filled it full of dust and leaves, as the windows were open. I did not have the camera at ready but i estimate the height to well over 5 or 6 metres.. the other 2 blew through here around 30 minutes later and didnt cause any damage or lift objects, but they were plainly visible.

Im down here in Jimboomba... around 15 minutes south of Browns Plains (Brissy)
Maybe it was the day for it?



*Dale*



on 26/01/2003 16:03, Sha at shambhala at hotkey.net.au wrote:

We have just experienced an unbelievable event here at home - in
Toogoolawah, which is in the Brisbane Valley, north of Brisbane.  I have no
idea what the correct term would be to describe this happening ????

On a day that is just calm with blue shies and hardly a breeze, I happened
to go into my bedroom just at the exact moment to look out the French doors
there and see an amazing *tornado* hit the kids' sandpit !!  As I watched,
it uplifted the gazebo, that had been held down with 6 tentpegs and was tied
on opposite sides to two Silky Oaks.  Then, two of the four sleepers, which
were wired together as well as being wired to the gazebo legs, just lifted
up as though they were as light as feathers and flipped over to the opposite
side of the sandpit !!  Meanwhile, the gazebo, which had come loose from one
of the trees by ripping the gazebo, and loosing itself from the pole, but
remained tied to the other, came to rest in a rather tangled mess, with one
leg pulled out and a metal roof beam bent precariously, astride a nearby
fence.  The sight was unbelievable !!

As quickly as this fury arrived, it disappeared.  There was absolutely no
sign of a path it had taken to the sandpit, nor did it leave a path as it
vacated.  It was as though it just *dropped out of the sky*, with an amazing
gust of fury and then vanished !!

What was also quite amazing, was that the few sand toys were left unscathed
and unmoved, still in the centre of the sandpit.  There was also some shade
cloth just to one side that was half of the cover that the kids had earlier
removed ... this was not moved, although the other side was wrapped around
one of the legs  Also not touched were a low-lying deck chair and dogs'
paddle pool positioned just 2 to 3 feet to the other side.  The fury of the
wind centred exactly over the middle of the sandpit, touching nothing
anywhere else !!  This display lasted for no more than about 30 seconds and
the weather has remained as calm as it was prior to this happening.

Here are some pictures I took :
http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html

Does anybody have any ideas about this please ??

Love
Sha



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 X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 23:51:09 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke, dust and other Victorian extremes Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 10:12 PM 26/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Must admit Bussy, I was thinking about this on the way home - people who >spend most of their time in cities (or in states are areas that get >rain) a) don't see how bad it really is unless they get in a car an go >and have a look for themselves, and b) don't see that sort of thing >often....pics please!!!!! Agreed. I now have a policy of anything that _might_ be unusual, I'll take a photo of. Got some of the smoke on Thursday (but didn't post on the web). >Speaking of which, I noticed in NSW in November and also today in >northern Victoria, you can find a herd of animals very easily atm - just >find a dust cloud and look underneath it - even cattle or sheep stamping >while being had fed raises clouds of dust, and it's that fine it becomes >easily suspended!! Yep, you get that in the bush. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [210.50.30.20] From: "Rune Peitersen" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:03:14 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2003 13:03:14.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[496CBAC0:01C2C53B] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Seen some of the video footage of that event too, Jimmy and David have some awesome footage there as well, trees are always such a pain though, nothing a good chainsaw can't fix, although if Jimbo was a tiny bit taller he'd have a better view, go go gadget legs :) >From: "Michael Thompson" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event >Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:29:21 +1100 > >Excellent report Jimmy, what an incredible storm system. I really like the >area around Premer, Gunnedah for chasing, although as you mentioned there >are some annoying tree line sections. > >Michael > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jimmy Deguara" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:29 AM >Subject: aus-wx: Finally chase report for 23rd December event > > > > Hi, > > > > Finally I have been able to rack up sufficient time to get together this > > special report > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2002/docs/200212-07.htm > > > > Here is a preview image > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002/1223jd005.jpg > > Staccato lightning strikes within the dust plume being blown out by >outflow. > > > > There are quite a few lightning strikes that in the report I included >just > > main ones. The whole set of the images are at: > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122301.htm > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122302.htm > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122303.htm > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122304.htm > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122305.htm > > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2002122306.htm > > > > I hope you enjoy it. Do visit back as videos are planned to be released >of > > this event. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - >http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "W.A. \(Bill\) Webb" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:08:20 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi Sha, List. What-ever it was you experienced certainly did a job on your shade cover! Your experience reminds me of an occurrence north of Proserpine some three months ago. A truck carrying a demountable house/cottage along the highway encountered what was either "clear air turbulence" or some sort of vorticity not visible in the terrain. Surrounding area was either grassed - green, thanks to irrigation - or growing sugar cane (no dust, debris around). The demountable was demolished on the back of the truck! Lifted and dumped in the road table drain, but in pieces before it hit the ground. The straps previously holding it were left flapping but not damaged. No damage to the truck. When I first saw the wreckage, I thought it was the remains of a large caravan which had parted company with its towing vehicle and rolled off the road. I got the true storey from a local cane farmer who attended the scene. No damage (unlikely anyway) visible in the surrounding area. I'll bet the truck driver had difficulty explaining the situation to the insurance company! Ahh, the wonders of nature. 50 to 75 mm of very welcome steady rain around Proserpine Whitsundays last Friday/Saturday. Biggest fall since early May last. We were anxious here that the first fall for "the wet" would be a deluge which would cause a lot of damage. This fall will at lest "settle" the country and grow a bit of vegetation to cover the previously bare ground. Regards, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:03 PM Subject: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* | | Here are some pictures I took : | http://www.geocities.com/serpentine_moon/tornado.html | | Does anybody have any ideas about this please ?? | | Love | Sha +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:11:47 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Thanks to all for your responses :) I have seen many a dust devil/willy willy, like the one on Jane's photo .... but this one was out of the ordinary with its tremendous force and fury - in such a confined area !! Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" To: Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:08 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Hi Sha, List. What-ever it was you experienced certainly did a job on your shade cover! Ahh, the wonders of nature. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 12:55:58 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I don't know whether the story is apocryphal or not, but there was a tale doing the rounds in the early 1950s of a willy willy picking up a parked car and placing it upside down on top of the other car next to it on a farm near Mortlake or Darlington in South Western Victoria. Both cars were extensively damaged. I was actually always sceptical of this story since nobody I knew had actually seen it and there were no photos, etc. It always seemed to me that if it really happened, somebody would have photographed it and put it in the local rag. I lived in Terang at that time, and there was certainly nothing in the Terang Express. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: "Sha" To: Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:11:47 +1000 Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > Thanks to all for your responses :) > > I have seen many a dust devil/willy willy, like the one on Jane's photo > .... > but this one was out of the ordinary with its tremendous force and fury > - in > such a confined area !! > > Love > Sha > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > > > Hi Sha, List. > > What-ever it was you experienced certainly did a job on your shade > cover! > > > > Ahh, the wonders of nature. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:11:54 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com While on the topic, thought this might interest someone. A willy-willy occured at Dunkeld Vic near Hamilton on Saturday 14th February 1982. According to the Hamilton Spectator (16th Feb 1982), the whirlwind picked up a seven year old boy and dropped him on his head. It also tore up asphalt and sheets of roofing iron. Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Smith" To: Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > I don't know whether the story is apocryphal or not, but there was a > tale doing the rounds in the early 1950s of a willy willy picking up a > parked car and placing it upside down on top of the other car next to it > on a farm near Mortlake or Darlington in South Western Victoria. Both > cars were extensively damaged. > I was actually always sceptical of this story since nobody I knew had > actually seen it and there were no photos, etc. It always seemed to me > that if it really happened, somebody would have photographed it and put > it in the local rag. I lived in Terang at that time, and there was > certainly nothing in the Terang Express. > > Phil > <>< > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Sha" > To: > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:11:47 +1000 > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > > > Thanks to all for your responses :) > > > > I have seen many a dust devil/willy willy, like the one on Jane's photo > > .... > > but this one was out of the ordinary with its tremendous force and fury > > - in > > such a confined area !! > > > > Love > > Sha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "W.A. (Bill) Webb" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 9:08 AM > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Amazing *tornado* > > > > > > Hi Sha, List. > > > > What-ever it was you experienced certainly did a job on your shade > > cover! > > > > > > > > Ahh, the wonders of nature. > > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 21/01/2003 > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > + > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > > your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > > - > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 09:44:25 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Happy Days to All:
           Hope everyone is keeping cool (& wet). My question today is: What would be the lowest windspeed in an F0 Tornado? I saw on TV the terrible bushfires in your beautiful country. I give you good thoughts & prayers for some adequate, quick relief for this situation. Mena is supposed to be in a moderate El Nino weather pattern, but we've only recorded rain on 1 day so far--0.20IN(5.0mm) on the 14th; we had some brief Snow flurries on the 12th and 15th with no accumulation. So, I guess in some ways, I can empathize with you.
Hang in there.
Yours
David Powell
 From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record high temp at Geelong To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 11:35:00 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2C495.B197EC10 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi all, Geelong's highest ever daily maximum was recorded on Saturday > 25th: 44.6 degrees at 3pm. This passes the previous record set on 16th > and 19th January, 1908, (44.2). Although Geelong's temperatures have > been measured at different locations over the period, the actual figures > in 1908 were all considered official by the appropriate body at the > time. > > Lindsay Smail Ended up at 44.8. Now that I've had a chance to look at the daily bulletin for 13 January 1939, Geelong appears to be the only location where observations were taken in 1939 which has set a record on Saturday. There was a near-miss at Nhill, where the 45.7 was just short of their 45.9 in 1939. Most areas north of the Divide, except for the Wimmera, were hotter on 14 January 2001. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record high temp at Geelong Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 12:25:33 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Of course in 1908 and 1939, temperatures were recorded in Fahrenheit. They would laterhave been convertet to get the Centegrade reading. There is scope for a little imprecision here... Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair Trewin" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:35 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record high temp at Geelong > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C2C495.B197EC10 > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="Windows-1252" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Hi all, Geelong's highest ever daily maximum was recorded on Saturday > > 25th: 44.6 degrees at 3pm. This passes the previous record set on 16th > > and 19th January, 1908, (44.2). Although Geelong's temperatures have > > been measured at different locations over the period, the actual figures > > in 1908 were all considered official by the appropriate body at the > > time. > > > > Lindsay Smail > > Ended up at 44.8. > > Now that I've had a chance to look at the daily bulletin for 13 > January 1939, Geelong appears to be the only location where observations > were taken in 1939 which has set a record on Saturday. There was a > near-miss at Nhill, where the 45.7 was just short of their 45.9 in > 1939. > > Most areas north of the Divide, except for the Wimmera, were hotter > on 14 January 2001. > > Blair > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 15:10:58 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I haven't noticed any postings from James lately ... hope things are OK there.
 
Love
Sha
 
Resort faces fresh fire threat
January 28, 2003

VICTORIA'S Mt Hotham Alpine Resort is bracing itself for yet another fire attack, with a blaze in the Dargo area rapidly approaching the resort village.

The high country resort, which has successfully battled fires on eastern, western and northern fronts in the past week, is coming under threat from the fire burning in the south.

Mt Hotham Alpine Resort acting chairman Andrew Lean said the fire, which was part of the large Bogong fire complex, was less than 2km away.

"The situation is fairly critical. The resort is on a high state of alert," Mr Lean said.

He predicted the approaching fire front would be more than 3km wide and said Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) and Mt Hotham Resort management personnel were desperately cutting fire breaks on the village's south-west perimeter.

The area first came under threat from fire generated by lightning strikes at Mt Feathertop over a week ago, which encroached on the resort's north-west.

Just two nights ago fires moved into the Golden Point area, to the north of the village, slowly burning down towards houses and infrastructure.

"Simultaneously fires came up from the Cobungra area, burning an area called Big Spur on the east side of the village," Mr Lean said.

"We are basically black on a 280-degree side, the remaining area of approach is from the Dargo and that's what is now happening.

"The resort has effectively been completely surrounded, the fire's been fought on all fronts."

Community volunteers, Country Fire Authority (CFA) and DSE firefighters have so far been successful in repelling blazes from the resort area, with no damage to houses, ski lifts or other infrastructure.

Mr Lean predicted their efforts would work again.

"I think it's fair to say the authorities are quietly confident," he said.

AAP  http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5902164%255E1702,00.html

 
 

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 From: "James Holbeach" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 17:00:27 +1100 Organization: Trapdoor Ski Club X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com

LOL

Funny you should post that, I have just got back to Melbourne. The situation up there is pretty grim but all are confident. I have some stunning photos to post later.

 

We (being about 30 odd community volunteers) have prepared the village and have had to deal with fire coming from pretty much all directions. The fire mentioned in the report below actually threatened the village 2 days ago . . . . I have had 2 hours sleep in 2 days. I spoke to Drew (Andrew Lean) on my way home as there has been a lot of misinformation in the media. Drew is at Hotham and we were getting no news up there, yet I found out (via the Herald Sun) that apparently 6 Houses had burnt at Hotham . . . excuse my language, but the Media has been full of Shit. Hotham has been under direct fire threat for 7 days now, from different directions, and the media seem to have suddenly discovered that- and are making up whatever story they seem to think would be most news worthy. I wish that the media still believed that we did not exist.

 

To date, no Houses have been lost at Hotham, Dinner Plain or the airport. (except for 2 derilict sheds at the airport)

 

Will reply in detail later, but if you are interested, do not believe the media, visit http://www.trapdoor.com.au or the MHARMB web-site http://www.mthotham.com.au/

 

Cheers

 

James

(sleep time now)

 

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 4:11 PM
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I haven't noticed any postings from James lately ... hope things are OK there.

 

Love

Sha

 

Resort faces fresh fire threat
January 28, 2003

VICTORIA'S Mt Hotham Alpine Resort is bracing itself for yet another fire attack, with a blaze in the Dargo area rapidly approaching the resort village.

The high country resort, which has successfully battled fires on eastern, western and northern fronts in the past week, is coming under threat from the fire burning in the south.

Mt Hotham Alpine Resort acting chairman Andrew Lean said the fire, which was part of the large Bogong fire complex, was less than 2km away.

"The situation is fairly critical. The resort is on a high state of alert," Mr Lean said.

He predicted the approaching fire front would be more than 3km wide and said Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) and Mt Hotham Resort management personnel were desperately cutting fire breaks on the village's south-west perimeter.

The area first came under threat from fire generated by lightning strikes at Mt Feathertop over a week ago, which encroached on the resort's north-west.

Just two nights ago fires moved into the Golden Point area, to the north of the village, slowly burning down towards houses and infrastructure.

"Simultaneously fires came up from the Cobungra area, burning an area called Big Spur on the east side of the village," Mr Lean said.

"We are basically black on a 280-degree side, the remaining area of approach is from the Dargo and that's what is now happening.

"The resort has effectively been completely surrounded, the fire's been fought on all fronts."

Community volunteers, Country Fire Authority (CFA) and DSE firefighters have so far been successful in repelling blazes from the resort area, with no damage to houses, ski lifts or other infrastructure.

Mr Lean predicted their efforts would work again.

"I think it's fair to say the authorities are quietly confident," he said.

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Media reports have sucked here, last report i heard was just on sky news, the immediate threat has diminished at Hotham, but extreme conditions are forecast for wednesday and thursday, also heard that upto a dozen houses have been lost in the omeo region.

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LOL

Funny you should post that, I have just got back to Melbourne. The situation up there is pretty grim but all are confident. I have some stunning photos to post later.

 

We (being about 30 odd community volunteers) have prepared the village and have had to deal with fire coming from pretty much all directions. The fire mentioned in the report below actually threatened the village 2 days ago . . . . I have had 2 hours sleep in 2 days. I spoke to Drew (Andrew Lean) on my way home as there has been a lot of misinformation in the media. Drew is at Hotham and we were getting no news up there, yet I found out (via the Herald Sun) that apparently 6 Houses had burnt at Hotham . . . excuse my language, but the Media has been full of Shit. Hotham has been under direct fire threat for 7 days now, from different directions, and the media seem to have suddenly discovered that- and are making up whatever story they seem to think would be most news worthy. I wish that the media still believed that we did not exist.

 

To date, no Houses have been lost at Hotham, Dinner Plain or the airport. (except for 2 derilict sheds at the airport)

 

Will reply in detail later, but if you are interested, do not believe the media, visit http://www.trapdoor.com.au or the MHARMB web-site http://www.mthotham.com.au/

 

Cheers

 

James

(sleep time now)

 

 

 

James Holbeach

--------------------------------

Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Sha
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 4:11 PM
To: Aussie Weather
Subject: aus-wx: Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat

 

I haven't noticed any postings from James lately ... hope things are OK there.

 

Love

Sha

 

Resort faces fresh fire threat
January 28, 2003

VICTORIA'S Mt Hotham Alpine Resort is bracing itself for yet another fire attack, with a blaze in the Dargo area rapidly approaching the resort village.

The high country resort, which has successfully battled fires on eastern, western and northern fronts in the past week, is coming under threat from the fire burning in the south.

Mt Hotham Alpine Resort acting chairman Andrew Lean said the fire, which was part of the large Bogong fire complex, was less than 2km away.

"The situation is fairly critical. The resort is on a high state of alert," Mr Lean said.

He predicted the approaching fire front would be more than 3km wide and said Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) and Mt Hotham Resort management personnel were desperately cutting fire breaks on the village's south-west perimeter.

The area first came under threat from fire generated by lightning strikes at Mt Feathertop over a week ago, which encroached on the resort's north-west.

Just two nights ago fires moved into the Golden Point area, to the north of the village, slowly burning down towards houses and infrastructure.

"Simultaneously fires came up from the Cobungra area, burning an area called Big Spur on the east side of the village," Mr Lean said.

"We are basically black on a 280-degree side, the remaining area of approach is from the Dargo and that's what is now happening.

"The resort has effectively been completely surrounded, the fire's been fought on all fronts."

Community volunteers, Country Fire Authority (CFA) and DSE firefighters have so far been successful in repelling blazes from the resort area, with no damage to houses, ski lifts or other infrastructure.

Mr Lean predicted their efforts would work again.

"I think it's fair to say the authorities are quietly confident," he said.

AAP  http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5902164%255E1702,00.html

 

 


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 From: "Tina Jones" To: Subject: aus-wx: Media Award to James - Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 18:39:23 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hi Trappy,
 
Glad you made it back ok.
 
You and the Hotham crew should be eligible for a media award for accuracy of reporting.
 
Even the CFA was getting it wrong and you guys were spot on.
 
Thanks for you news and reports,
 
I'm sure your fire fighting efforts will be seriously missed by those remaining at Mt Hotham.
 
Tina (BJ)
 
 
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of James Holbeach
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 5:00 PM
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat

LOL

Funny you should post that, I have just got back to Melbourne. The situation up there is pretty grim but all are confident. I have some stunning photos to post later.

 

We (being about 30 odd community volunteers) have prepared the village and have had to deal with fire coming from pretty much all directions. The fire mentioned in the report below actually threatened the village 2 days ago . . . . I have had 2 hours sleep in 2 days. I spoke to Drew (Andrew Lean) on my way home as there has been a lot of misinformation in the media. Drew is at Hotham and we were getting no news up there, yet I found out (via the Herald Sun) that apparently 6 Houses had burnt at Hotham . . . excuse my language, but the Media has been full of Shit. Hotham has been under direct fire threat for 7 days now, from different directions, and the media seem to have suddenly discovered that- and are making up whatever story they seem to think would be most news worthy. I wish that the media still believed that we did not exist.

 

To date, no Houses have been lost at Hotham, Dinner Plain or the airport. (except for 2 derilict sheds at the airport)

 

Will reply in detail later, but if you are interested, do not believe the media, visit http://www.trapdoor.com.au or the MHARMB web-site http://www.mthotham.com.au/

 

Cheers

 

James

(sleep time now)

 

 

 

James Holbeach

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Trapdoor Ski Club

Mt. Hotham, Australia

ph. 0417 553 757

http://www.trapdoor.com.au

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Sha
Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 4:11 PM
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Subject: aus-wx: Hotham Resort faces fresh fire threat

 

I haven't noticed any postings from James lately ... hope things are OK there.

 

Love

Sha

 

Resort faces fresh fire threat
January 28, 2003

VICTORIA'S Mt Hotham Alpine Resort is bracing itself for yet another fire attack, with a blaze in the Dargo area rapidly approaching the resort village.

The high country resort, which has successfully battled fires on eastern, western and northern fronts in the past week, is coming under threat from the fire burning in the south.

Mt Hotham Alpine Resort acting chairman Andrew Lean said the fire, which was part of the large Bogong fire complex, was less than 2km away.

"The situation is fairly critical. The resort is on a high state of alert," Mr Lean said.

He predicted the approaching fire front would be more than 3km wide and said Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) and Mt Hotham Resort management personnel were desperately cutting fire breaks on the village's south-west perimeter.

The area first came under threat from fire generated by lightning strikes at Mt Feathertop over a week ago, which encroached on the resort's north-west.

Just two nights ago fires moved into the Golden Point area, to the north of the village, slowly burning down towards houses and infrastructure.

"Simultaneously fires came up from the Cobungra area, burning an area called Big Spur on the east side of the village," Mr Lean said.

"We are basically black on a 280-degree side, the remaining area of approach is from the Dargo and that's what is now happening.

"The resort has effectively been completely surrounded, the fire's been fought on all fronts."

Community volunteers, Country Fire Authority (CFA) and DSE firefighters have so far been successful in repelling blazes from the resort area, with no damage to houses, ski lifts or other infrastructure.

Mr Lean predicted their efforts would work again.

"I think it's fair to say the authorities are quietly confident," he said.

AAP  http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5902164%255E1702,00.html

 

 


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 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: Tornado in Cyprus Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:03:32 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Report on a tornado (or more) in Cyprus....... http://www.cna.org.cy/newse/ Click on the 27th for the story - or if your browser will accept the full link, try this... http://www.cna.org.cy/news_ie/newsdisp.asp?a=141464&b=4312833&c=86278571 0228&d=5 Image hosted courtesy of Les Crossan, Wallsend, UK http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/cyprustn270103.jpg Discussion here from uk.sci.weather http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=uk.sci.weather (go to the 2nd page with thread entitled "Tornado in Cyprus" Thanks Les, Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: vk3jed-1 at 192.168.15.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:53:40 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Tony Langdon (VK3JED)" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado in Cyprus Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com At 09:03 PM 28/01/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Report on a tornado (or more) in Cyprus....... Was reported on ch 9 news tonight, some nice footage. :) 73 de Tony, VK3JED http://vkradio.com +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Ben Quinn" To: Subject: aus-wx: Close Cg strike photo - Christmas Eve, Sunshine Coast Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 21:01:37 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Evening all I was sent these photos from a guy by the name of David Keffyn. They were taken from Golden Beach (Caloundra) on the Sunshine Coast, north of Brisbane, on Christmas Eve 2002. As you can see the Cg in the first photo is incredibly close! His description is below "I had the camera on the tripod on open exposure, it is a shear fluke that I got it on camera. It was so close it threw my Missus off the balcony back into the apartment, and it singed some of the hair on my arm and slightly knocked the wind from me. It was darn close, a little too close actually, but fun none the same :)" http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_01.shtml An amazing shot! And believe it or not, he kept shooting http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_02.shtml http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_03.shtml That first one is very close too! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado in Cyprus Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:05:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blank
Yeah, showed 3 seperate waterspouts-come-tornado's very close to each other.
Some more pics are here: - not showing the three though

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 Embedded Content: Blank Bkgrd.gif: 00000001,05206d3a,00000000,00000000 From: "Paul Rands" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Close Cg strike photo - Christmas Eve, Sunshine Coast Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:25:37 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com These are fantastic pix ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul Rands Email: prands at optusnet.com.au ICQ: 137833127 or MSN: Uncle Paul Web: http://paulrands.cjb.net/ http://canberraonline.cjb.net/ http://ausvolvo.cjb.net/ http://express-way.cjb.net/ -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Ben Quinn Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2003 22:02 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Close Cg strike photo - Christmas Eve, Sunshine Coast Evening all I was sent these photos from a guy by the name of David Keffyn. They were taken from Golden Beach (Caloundra) on the Sunshine Coast, north of Brisbane, on Christmas Eve 2002. As you can see the Cg in the first photo is incredibly close! His description is below "I had the camera on the tripod on open exposure, it is a shear fluke that I got it on camera. It was so close it threw my Missus off the balcony back into the apartment, and it singed some of the hair on my arm and slightly knocked the wind from me. It was darn close, a little too close actually, but fun none the same :)" http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_01.shtml An amazing shot! And believe it or not, he kept shooting http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_02.shtml http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_03.shtml That first one is very close too! +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com at mail.australiasevereweather.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:26:47 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado in Cyprus Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hello, Nice to know they are not fake as suggested in previous example of multiple waterspouts. They looked great. Jimmy Deguara At 10:05 PM 28/1/2003 +1100, you wrote: >Yeah, showed 3 seperate waterspouts-come-tornado's very close to each other. >Some more pics are here: - not showing the three though >http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=506&e=3&u=/ap/20030127/ap_wo_en_ge/eu_gen_cyprus_tornado >http://www.meteoradar.ch/forum/showthread.php?id=685 > >Cheers >--------------------------------- >Simon Angell >Canberra, ACT >www.canberra-wx.com >--------------------------------------------- >Proud member of the >Australian Severe Weather Association. >www.severeweather.asn.au > >***WEBSITE UPDATE*** >Redesign is going good, and i *could* >have the new product ready this week. >However - Im am now playing with CSS >and this means a few more weeks wait. >the final product will be much better though! >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Simon Angell" To: "Aussie-Wx" Subject: Re: aus-wx: Tornado in Cyprus Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:43:21 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mite.vosn.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - canberra-wx.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Blank
Yeah Jimmy, i was an 'advocate' of the fakeness of multipule spouts (espcially one of the pics sampled - which i still believe to be fake) a year or so back. by the end of the discusion i had changed my opinion on the multiple close waterspouts, and to see thw footage tonight was amazing!

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Matt Smith

Wendy wrote:

I was wondering the same thing, I'm out at St Clair (near Penrith) and I can not only see the smoke in the trees, but the smell is quite bad too... nothing on the news about it either.. Wendy 
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW
 Hi All, Can anyone tell me where the smoke that is in the sky to the west of Mona Vale is coming from?  Time 16.25 Friday.Judy Mayo  
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Hey Dave, for a F0 rating, the minimum windspeed must be 62kph. The maximum windspeed for a F0 rating is 117kph. Hope this helps.
 
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Subject: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Happy Days to All:
           Hope everyone is keeping cool (& wet). My question today is: What would be the lowest windspeed in an F0 Tornado? I saw on TV the terrible bushfires in your beautiful country. I give you good thoughts & prayers for some adequate, quick relief for this situation. Mena is supposed to be in a moderate El Nino weather pattern, but we've only recorded rain on 1 day so far--0.20IN(5.0mm) on the 14th; we had some brief Snow flurries on the 12th and 15th with no accumulation. So, I guess in some ways, I can empathize with you.
Hang in there.
Yours
David Powell
 From: "Dean Sgarbossa" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Close Cg strike photo - Christmas Eve, Sunshine Coast Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:09:44 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Absolutely awesome photos. Lucky man though!!! Dean ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Findlay" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Close Cg strike photo - Christmas Eve, Sunshine Coast > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:01 pm, Ben Quinn wrote this piece of wisdom: > > I was sent these photos from a guy by the name of David Keffyn. They were > > taken from Golden Beach (Caloundra) on the Sunshine Coast, north of > > Brisbane, on Christmas Eve 2002. As you can see the Cg in the first photo > > is incredibly close! His description is below > > > > "I had the camera on the tripod on open exposure, it is a shear fluke that > > I got it on camera. It was so close it threw my Missus off the balcony back > > into the apartment, and it singed some of the hair on my arm and slightly > > knocked the wind from me. It was darn close, a little too close actually, > > but fun none the same :)" > > > > http://www.bsch.au.com/photos/subs/241202_01.shtml > > I saw a picture of a nuclear explosion that looked like that once. Very cool, > definately a good flang in the category of "Did I bring an extra pair of > pants?". Thanks, > > David > > - -- > If you give someone a program, you will frustrate them for a day. If you teach > them how to program, you will frustrate them for a lifetime. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+NncGZOfFgbBAbXARAn57AJ414D0e/AD2S/vzfSOuvAukzh781gCfY5y0 > 3BlkmkEfBvHMBFKJ8q981P8= > =K1iN > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Wendy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:04:07 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2003 06:04:00.0614 (UTC) FILETIME=[63B0B860:01C2C36E] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
I was wondering the same thing, I'm out at St Clair (near Penrith) and I can not only see the smoke in the trees, but the smell is quite bad too... nothing on the news about it either..
 
Wendy
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Adam Mayo
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Smoke visible from Mona Vale NSW

Hi All,
 
Can anyone tell me where the smoke that is in the sky to the west of Mona Vale is coming from?  Time 16.25 Friday.
Judy Mayo
 

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 From: "Jane ONeill" To: "Aussie-wx" Subject: aus-wx: SDS & snow & new pics Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:12:03 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com For those of you (us) who are being driven totally nuts because everyone else has our storms and we have nothing particularly significant to photograph or get terribly excited about (visually) here are some webcams that may get your attention. The Finnish road network is well "cameraed" and much time can be spent looking longingly at snow (especially Lapland)http://www.tieh.fi/alk/english/frames/kelikamerat-frame.html and for those of you who wish to follow weather conditions in Munich try this http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/mesomikro/stadt/camera.jpg (you may need to copy and paste this URL in bits it it's too long for one line....) Enjoy... Jane PS: new pics added to the Winter 2002 and Spring 2002 courtesy of Sue White!! - an amazing lightning shot. Catch both of them and the latest updates from http://www.stormchasers.au.com/wotznu.htm -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky & Weather http://www.stormchasers.au.com Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:03:07 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Mmm,,
 
62kph..  That would make most willy willies (dust devils) score as F0 I would think.
 
John.
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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:44 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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Hey Dave, for a F0 rating, the minimum windspeed must be 62kph. The maximum windspeed for a F0 rating is 117kph. Hope this helps.
 
Dean
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From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Happy Days to All:
           Hope everyone is keeping cool (& wet). My question today is: What would be the lowest windspeed in an F0 Tornado? I saw on TV the terrible bushfires in your beautiful country. I give you good thoughts & prayers for some adequate, quick relief for this situation. Mena is supposed to be in a moderate El Nino weather pattern, but we've only recorded rain on 1 day so far--0.20IN(5.0mm) on the 14th; we had some brief Snow flurries on the 12th and 15th with no accumulation. So, I guess in some ways, I can empathize with you.
Hang in there.
Yours
David Powell
 From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:21:27 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some very sick looking trees around. John. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "arky dave" To: Subject: aus-wx: Finland Road Cams Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:27:45 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everbody:
         Jane ONeill mentioned the Finnish road cam website. I LOVE this site and visit it addictively. SNOW...SNOW...and more SNOW. Y'all might want to do what I have done: I made 2 lists, one has the webcam name on the cams that show background features (towns, freeways, semi-truck parking, bridges, etc.), I keep another list of the webcam names of cams which are more or less pointed straight down and don't show much except a short 2-lane stretch of road. Those people drive on the whitestuff normally, which makes me think it must be powder snow. The outside/road temperature (in degrees C) are also given with the cam shot. One of my favorite things to do: As the cams take still pictures at regular intervals (every 15, 30 mins or so), I like to down load a sequence of several pictures[sort of like a small movie], I do this if there is a snowstorm in progress.....my how the time just whizzes by.
C-Ya'll Later & Enjoy!
P.S. Mena had a Warm front come through yesterday, Jan. 28. The morning low was 43F(6.1C), the day was cloudy and foggy; brisk S/SW winds kicked up the temps. The Day High was 58F(14.4C) around 5:28 P.M., the temps continued steady to slowly rising, the Overall High was 61F(16.1C) around 10:25 P.M. Today the Canadian Cold front hit and by daybreak the temp had already fallen to 56F(13.3C) with a forecast low near 32F(0.0C) in the morning.
Later, Yours, David Powell
 From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Scorcher Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:02:12 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 41.0 degrees at 11am at the moment here between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs. To view the day to day Max & Min temps for this year & last year for my home visit: http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: Still a Scorcher Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:30:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 42.0 degrees at 11:30am here between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs. To view my weather station data visit: http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~damoreds/chatswoodwx.html To view the day to day Max & Min temps for this year & last year for my home visit: http://www.geocities.com/weatherdamo/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Sha" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:01:41 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I didn't think to keep the email, but I remember that Ken Ring predicted, after the Christmas rains, that there would be no more until, I think, early February ! Guess you predicted well again Ken :) Something sure does work correctly with your moon calculations :) Love Sha ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Hi All, At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some very sick looking trees around. John. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Only catch is, mixing with the dust on the power lines, it's arched everything out and we've been without power since 11:18am. For those wondering how I'm typing this...laptop batteries and PCMCIA modems are a god send...lol. Hopefully the power will be back up soon, but lets hope this rain continues, especially since the Wimmera Mallee water storages are now at a crucial low 8% capacity http://www.wmwater.org.au/updates/storage.asp and with the advent of Stage 3 restrictions starting here Friday, while towns around me are going up to Stage 4. Very frightening. PaulY +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:51:51 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Sugars X-X-Sender: ben at bigwig.prod.sugars To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Beni X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep03-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.102.200.84] using ID at Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:52:04 -0500 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I see Beni is thought to be moving closer to Queensland over the weekend. Any chance of it reaching the coast? What about any chance of a rain event for central/southern parts of the state next week? 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For your information.
 
Love
Sha
 
Battle to save resort begins
January 30, 2003

THE fight to save the Mt Hotham ski resort from the Bogong fire has begun with the blaze reaching the containment line in front of the village.

Mt Hotham Alpine Resort deputy chairman Andrew Lean said the fire had now reached the containment line at the eastern end of the southern perimeter of the resort.

Mr Lean said firefighters from the Country Fire Authority (CFA) and the Department of Sustainability and Environment (DSE) were "throwing everything they've got at it".

The blaze was being water bombed by firefighters and resort staff were helping to extinguish spot fires.

Mr Lean said the full length of the firefront was two and a half kilometres within the Mt Hotham snowfields but the front was "jagged".

He said the containment lines had been built by firefighters over the past five days and were very strong.

Staff at the resort had used snow-clearing equipment to clear the way for four large tankers to get through from Bright.

Ten tankers and about 50 firefighters were battling the blaze.

Mr Lean said drinking water was being used to feed the fire hydrants and snow-making water was being used to feed helicopters and tankers.

He said the resort was waiting for Victorian government approval to build a dam which, had it been built, would have been useful in this situation.

Mr Lean said the next difficulty would be when the cool change with the south-westerly wind came through.

"That front will drive the front possibly across the containment lines," he said.

"Once it's into the village we'll be dealing with a different beast from point to point."

AAP  http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5911336%255E1702,00.html


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 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:09:22 +1100 From: Peter Creswick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en To: aussie-weather Subject: aus-wx: SE NSW Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Warm and dry in south east NSW. 03z - 2pm charts http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~ventus45/30Jan/ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally some rain...but Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:13:01 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, 22mm of rainfall fell here at my place (Morphett Vale - Adelaide) overnight with a few flashes & bangs from the sky to boot ... there I was standing in the middle of my street, in the middle of the night, wearing only a pair of shorts & an umbrella watching the show. Noarlunga (suburb south of me) recorded 26mm & most areas south of Adelaide had good rainfall overnight. Falls from the southern Adelaide plains to the city fell from aprox 20mm down to 15mm the closer to the city you got then falling even further as you moved to the northern planes to around 5mm -10mm in the Elisabeth/Salisbury area. It was a pleasant surprise to wake up this morning to the sound of rain still falling outside my bedroom window. :) Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Yole (Yahoo)" To: "Aussie Weather" Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:40 AM Subject: aus-wx: Finally some rain...but > Hey All, > > Well, it's finally happened. It's been raining here since about 10am at > Murtoa (30kms E of Horsham Western Vic), and it's great to hear the wet > stuff on the roof again. Should add to the 2mm that we have had to date this > month. > > Only catch is, mixing with the dust on the power lines, it's arched > everything out and we've been without power since 11:18am. For those > wondering how I'm typing this...laptop batteries and PCMCIA modems are a god > send...lol. > > Hopefully the power will be back up soon, but lets hope this rain continues, > especially since the Wimmera Mallee water storages are now at a crucial low > 8% capacity http://www.wmwater.org.au/updates/storage.asp and with the > advent of Stage 3 restrictions starting here Friday, while towns around me > are going up to Stage 4. Very frightening. > > PaulY > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally some rain...but Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:55:01 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > 22mm of rainfall fell here at my place (Morphett Vale - Adelaide) overnight > with a few flashes & bangs from the sky to boot ... there I was standing in > the middle of my street, in the middle of the night, wearing only a pair of > shorts & an umbrella watching the show. Gees I hope you are a bloke! We got about 8mm here just outside of Ballarat in western Victoria. We neede it too - out rainwater tank was getting down a bit. This week we are building a big shed and will attach another rainwater tank to it to ensure supply in the dry times. I can almost guarantee that we will have record rains in 2003... Cheers Robyn +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 15:40:23 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Ok then, next question...
 
What separates a willy willy (dust devil) from a tornado, ie. what makes a tornado a tornado?
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Mmm,,
 
62kph..  That would make most willy willies (dust devils) score as F0 I would think.
 
John.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:44 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Hey Dave, for a F0 rating, the minimum windspeed must be 62kph. The maximum windspeed for a F0 rating is 117kph. Hope this helps.
 
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Happy Days to All:
           Hope everyone is keeping cool (& wet). My question today is: What would be the lowest windspeed in an F0 Tornado? I saw on TV the terrible bushfires in your beautiful country. I give you good thoughts & prayers for some adequate, quick relief for this situation. Mena is supposed to be in a moderate El Nino weather pattern, but we've only recorded rain on 1 day so far--0.20IN(5.0mm) on the 14th; we had some brief Snow flurries on the 12th and 15th with no accumulation. So, I guess in some ways, I can empathize with you.
Hang in there.
Yours
David Powell
 From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally some rain...but Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:44:20 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi All, Does anyone know how much rain fell at Noradjuha near Horsham last night. Judy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R & R McKenzie" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:55 PM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Finally some rain...but > > > > 22mm of rainfall fell here at my place (Morphett Vale - Adelaide) > overnight > > with a few flashes & bangs from the sky to boot ... there I was standing > in > > the middle of my street, in the middle of the night, wearing only a pair > of > > shorts & an umbrella watching the show. > > Gees I hope you are a bloke! > > We got about 8mm here just outside of Ballarat in western Victoria. We neede > it too - out rainwater tank was getting down a bit. This week we are > building a big shed and will attach another rainwater tank to it to ensure > supply in the dry times. I can almost guarantee that we will have record > rains in 2003... > > Cheers > Robyn > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Klipsi" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:57:42 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
a dust devil is not part of a storm, but only hot air rising and rotating  . No cloud above.  Occurs in hot blue sky. No storm.
a tornado is part of a major storm. It is the spinal cord , the soul , the heart of a storm. No storm, no Tornado..
The storm is a pig , the tornado is the pig's tail.
Where there's a tornado, there's always a storm attached to it.
Many storms have a core inside that rotates, but as long as there's no touchdown it is not named a tornado. Only if there's contact to the ground, damage on the ground , debries flying, then you have a tornado.
 
Klipsi
What separates a willy willy (dust devil) from a tornado, ie. what makes a tornado a tornado?
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 17:59:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
A storm is required for a tornado a dust devil develops on hot and dry days (as a rule).
Just got the following and thought it was worth posting/sharing :-)
 
The score was Hydrogen - 2 and Oxygen - 1 when the game was
called off because of rain.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stargazer
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Ok then, next question...
 
What separates a willy willy (dust devil) from a tornado, ie. what makes a tornado a tornado?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:33 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Mmm,,
 
62kph..  That would make most willy willies (dust devils) score as F0 I would think.
 
John.
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Dean Sgarbossa
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:44 AM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Hey Dave, for a F0 rating, the minimum windspeed must be 62kph. The maximum windspeed for a F0 rating is 117kph. Hope this helps.
 
Dean
----- Original Message -----
From: arky dave
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 2:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: A Tornado Question:

Happy Days to All:
           Hope everyone is keeping cool (& wet). My question today is: What would be the lowest windspeed in an F0 Tornado? I saw on TV the terrible bushfires in your beautiful country. I give you good thoughts & prayers for some adequate, quick relief for this situation. Mena is supposed to be in a moderate El Nino weather pattern, but we've only recorded rain on 1 day so far--0.20IN(5.0mm) on the 14th; we had some brief Snow flurries on the 12th and 15th with no accumulation. So, I guess in some ways, I can empathize with you.
Hang in there.
Yours
David Powell
 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 02:15:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Max" To: Subject: aus-wx: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:13:28 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Just thoought you might like to see this. I took this picture of a candle that was inadvertantly left on the table on my balcony today (Thursday 30 Jan). Given that it was in the shade, this might give an indication how hot it really was here in Western Sydney today
 
Max
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32.2mm for me out of this system.  :)))))))))
 
richard
naracoorte
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thats ok, i looked about the same here last saturday myself.
 
richard
naracoorte
 
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: Thursday, 30 January 2003 5:45:54 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:13:28 +1100
 
Just thoought you might like to see this. I took this picture of a candle that was inadvertantly left on the table on my balcony today (Thursday 30 Jan). Given that it was in the shade, this might give an indication how hot it really was here in Western Sydney today
 
Max
 
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  IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Embedded Content: IMSTP49.gif: 00000001,659f4dbc,00000000,00000000 From: "third" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:28:52 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the month is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station at Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the middle of winter !!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > Hi All, > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some > very sick looking trees around. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 16:55:50 +0800 From: "Phil Smith" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Cyclone Beni X-Mailer: WorldClient 6.0.7 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.2 X-Return-Path: SmithP at ics.edu.hk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I will be surprised if Beni can make it to Qld. But then I have been surprised many times before! It's already weakening as it starts to circle around Noumea. I see no reason why it should strengthen again enough to make that distance. My guess would be for it to recurve again well off the Qld coast and head for NZ as an extratropical low. Phil <>< International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm -----Original Message----- From: Benjamin Sugars To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:51:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: aus-wx: Cyclone Beni > I see Beni is thought to be moving closer to Queensland over the > weekend. Any chance of it reaching the coast? What about any > chance of a rain event for central/southern parts of the state > next week? > > Cheers, > -Ben > > -- > Benjamin Sugars > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > + > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of > your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au----------------------------- > - +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: jdeguara at pop.ihug.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:58:20 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Jimmy Deguara Subject: aus-wx: Hot day Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi guys, Today felt and was a hot day as others have already suggested. In 2001, it got slightly hotter but this will now last into the evening until the change arrives. At 7pm it was still over the 40C mark but now around 8pm it is cooling down to the high 30's. I do recall it was already 40C mark at about midday. I think one can assume that this should be the hottest day of the summer period - we'll see. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:33:29 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes. A right scorcher today. Interestingly enough this marks the sixth +40C day this month for this area (Cranebrook). My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and today-31st. It reached 39.4C on the 7th so pretty close again too. Today, the hottest day this summer for me with - 45.6C at 3:40. Thank the Lord for Air-Con. dann -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:58 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Hot day Hi guys, Today felt and was a hot day as others have already suggested. In 2001, it got slightly hotter but this will now last into the evening until the change arrives. At 7pm it was still over the 40C mark but now around 8pm it is cooling down to the high 30's. I do recall it was already 40C mark at about midday. I think one can assume that this should be the hottest day of the summer period - we'll see. Jimmy Deguara ----------------------------------------- Please note the change to my new e-mail address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com ----------------------------------------- Jimmy Deguara Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher from Schofields, Sydney NSW Australia e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com Web Page with Michael Bath Australian Severe Weather Home Page http://www.australiasevereweather.com Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association http://www.severeweather.asn.au +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "David Carroll" To: "Aussie Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Bathurst Weather station Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:02:56 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
HI all.
 
Have my wx station up and running during this hot wx.. currently still 30.4 deg here.. 
 
AS one said earlier.. thank god for air cond.. Hasnt been turned off since Sat..
 
 
Dave
Bathurst
 
 
 From: "Stargazer" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:40:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and today-31st. Umm... today is the 30th ...thought you'd like to know ;) lol Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "dann weatherhead" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day > Yes. A right scorcher today. > Interestingly enough this marks the sixth +40C day this month for this area > (Cranebrook). > > My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and > today-31st. It reached 39.4C on the 7th so pretty close again too. > > Today, the hottest day this summer for me with - 45.6C at 3:40. > > Thank the Lord for Air-Con. > > dann +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "dann weatherhead" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:18:49 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Ahh so it is. I always get ahead of myself. =) My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and today-30th. dann -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Stargazer Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:11 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day >My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and today-31st. Umm... today is the 30th ...thought you'd like to know ;) lol Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "dann weatherhead" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day > Yes. A right scorcher today. > Interestingly enough this marks the sixth +40C day this month for this area > (Cranebrook). > > My thermo maxed out over 40C on the 8th, 17th, 18th, 21st, 25th and > today-31st. It reached 39.4C on the 7th so pretty close again too. > > Today, the hottest day this summer for me with - 45.6C at 3:40. > > Thank the Lord for Air-Con. > > dann +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.434 / Virus Database: 243 - Release Date: 12/25/2002 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:55:07 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:04:16 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Yes John, the situation is very critical. Even here in the Illawarra after a brief flush of green around Christmas it is drying again. The people I work with have grown complacent about the fire danger. They think the danger has moved on, but until we get several inches it can be back at any stage. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:21 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > Hi All, > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some > very sick looking trees around. > > John. > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:13:52 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.ns4ua.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - world.std.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [0 0] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ozthunder.com Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com A stiff seabreeze operated all day in the Wollongong Shellharbour area. It enevr got past 32C at my home. This may sound desirable compared to 44C, but the 32C came with the thinnest slug of humidity too. Very sweaty. By the way the SE just moved through here at 11pm, very light so far. Michael ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jimmy Deguara" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: aus-wx: Hot day > Hi guys, > > Today felt and was a hot day as others have already suggested. In 2001, it > got slightly hotter but this will now last into the evening until the > change arrives. At 7pm it was still over the 40C mark but now around 8pm it > is cooling down to the high 30's. I do recall it was already 40C mark at > about midday. > > I think one can assume that this should be the hottest day of the summer > period - we'll see. > > Jimmy Deguara > > ----------------------------------------- > Please note the change to my new e-mail > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - http://www.thunderbolttours.com > ----------------------------------------- > Jimmy Deguara > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > from > Schofields, Sydney > NSW Australia > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:22:22 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Laurier,  Thanks for the reply.  Frank's mother lives in Nth. Katoomba.  But from what you say, it seems that
the fire would have had to get through a lot of streets before reaching hers.  It could be bad in the area of Catalina Park, there are a lot of houses in the back there surrounded closely by their own large trees.  I hope that they are all safe tonight.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:42:31 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
This may offer some comfort (from the NSW RFS media site at http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au/media/pressrelease.asp -- worth watching at times like this):
 
Issue time was 22.00
 
Blue Mountains
 
       A fire that started 1km west of the Explorers Tree, Katoomba at about 4.30pm, entered the North Katoomba catchment area and caused spotting in North Katoomba streets. Concerns were held
       for property in Mort St, North St and Whetton Rd however conditions have eased this evening and firefighters are confident of the safety of homes tonight. The Great Western Highway and
       railway line were closed. Self evacuees were gathering at the Civic Centre in Katoomba. There are no confirmed property losses.
 
       Over 35 RFS tankers were working in the area along with Fire Brigades firefighters and aircraft. Property protection was expected to be conducted throughout the night.
 
I can confirm that they're taking it seriously. There were 3 water bombing helicopters in operation when I left, and I passed 23 appliances on their way up the hill as I rode from Katoomba back down to Springwood.
 
The 11pm ABC news also indicated houses at risk on the southern edge of Medlow Bath. At time like this, I find that the news and in-program updates on 2BL (702) are by far the best.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:22
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Laurier,  Thanks for the reply.  Frank's mother lives in Nth. Katoomba.  But from what you say, it seems that
the fire would have had to get through a lot of streets before reaching hers.  It could be bad in the area of Catalina Park, there are a lot of houses in the back there surrounded closely by their own large trees.  I hope that they are all safe tonight.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:44:14 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Still an extraordinary 41 deg at Bourke at 9pm, and 40 at Walgett. I'll bet the pubs are doing good business tonight! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:14 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day > > > A stiff seabreeze operated all day in the Wollongong > Shellharbour area. It > enevr got past 32C at my home. > > This may sound desirable compared to 44C, but the 32C came with > the thinnest > slug of humidity too. Very sweaty. > > By the way the SE just moved through here at 11pm, very light so far. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:58 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Hot day > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Today felt and was a hot day as others have already suggested. > In 2001, it > > got slightly hotter but this will now last into the evening until the > > change arrives. At 7pm it was still over the 40C mark but now around 8pm > it > > is cooling down to the high 30's. I do recall it was already 40C mark at > > about midday. > > > > I think one can assume that this should be the hottest day of the summer > > period - we'll see. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:11:53 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Thanks again Laurier.  I guess if that fire hadn't calmed down there could have been spot fires right across the Nth. Katoomba area.  There are so many trees all through those streets, I guess that we are lucky that Fourth Ave, is situated in the middle.
 
I imagine that it was a nice night for a motorbike ride, once you got past the frustration of having to turn back when so close to home.
 
I have to ask could you see any trace of the Wollemi fires or the ones at Lithgow when you got away from the lights on Bell's Line Road.
 
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

This may offer some comfort (from the NSW RFS media site at http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au/media/pressrelease.asp -- worth watching at times like this):
 
Issue time was 22.00
 
Blue Mountains
 
       A fire that started 1km west of the Explorers Tree, Katoomba at about 4.30pm, entered the North Katoomba catchment area and caused spotting in North Katoomba streets. Concerns were held
       for property in Mort St, North St and Whetton Rd however conditions have eased this evening and firefighters are confident of the safety of homes tonight. The Great Western Highway and
       railway line were closed. Self evacuees were gathering at the Civic Centre in Katoomba. There are no confirmed property losses.
 
       Over 35 RFS tankers were working in the area along with Fire Brigades firefighters and aircraft. Property protection was expected to be conducted throughout the night.
 
I can confirm that they're taking it seriously. There were 3 water bombing helicopters in operation when I left, and I passed 23 appliances on their way up the hill as I rode from Katoomba back down to Springwood.
 
The 11pm ABC news also indicated houses at risk on the southern edge of Medlow Bath. At time like this, I find that the news and in-program updates on 2BL (702) are by far the best.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:22
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Laurier,  Thanks for the reply.  Frank's mother lives in Nth. Katoomba.  But from what you say, it seems that
the fire would have had to get through a lot of streets before reaching hers.  It could be bad in the area of Catalina Park, there are a lot of houses in the back there surrounded closely by their own large trees.  I hope that they are all safe tonight.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:28:11 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
It was a pretty hot night for a motorbike ride, Judy! When I was coming through the western suburbs around 4.30 the temp was around 45, and it seemed like around 40 when I dropped back down to Richmond on my detour back home. I was wearing full leathers (Ieft the jeans at home) and went through 5 x 600ml bottles of Powerade in 3 hours without one loo visit.
 
No sign of the Wollemi fires -- smoke or firelight -- from Bells, and I was looking.
 
Hope all goes well in Katoomba tonight. The southerly change is making very slow progress -- Nowra at 7.13pm, Kiama 10.13, and Sydney's southern suburbs around midnight. But it is very slow in penetrating inland -- Moss Vale still 30 deg with a Wly wind at midnight.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 13:12
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Thanks again Laurier.  I guess if that fire hadn't calmed down there could have been spot fires right across the Nth. Katoomba area.  There are so many trees all through those streets, I guess that we are lucky that Fourth Ave, is situated in the middle.
 
I imagine that it was a nice night for a motorbike ride, once you got past the frustration of having to turn back when so close to home.
 
I have to ask could you see any trace of the Wollemi fires or the ones at Lithgow when you got away from the lights on Bell's Line Road.
 
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

This may offer some comfort (from the NSW RFS media site at http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au/media/pressrelease.asp -- worth watching at times like this):
 
Issue time was 22.00
 
Blue Mountains
 
       A fire that started 1km west of the Explorers Tree, Katoomba at about 4.30pm, entered the North Katoomba catchment area and caused spotting in North Katoomba streets. Concerns were held
       for property in Mort St, North St and Whetton Rd however conditions have eased this evening and firefighters are confident of the safety of homes tonight. The Great Western Highway and
       railway line were closed. Self evacuees were gathering at the Civic Centre in Katoomba. There are no confirmed property losses.
 
       Over 35 RFS tankers were working in the area along with Fire Brigades firefighters and aircraft. Property protection was expected to be conducted throughout the night.
 
I can confirm that they're taking it seriously. There were 3 water bombing helicopters in operation when I left, and I passed 23 appliances on their way up the hill as I rode from Katoomba back down to Springwood.
 
The 11pm ABC news also indicated houses at risk on the southern edge of Medlow Bath. At time like this, I find that the news and in-program updates on 2BL (702) are by far the best.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:22
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Laurier,  Thanks for the reply.  Frank's mother lives in Nth. Katoomba.  But from what you say, it seems that
the fire would have had to get through a lot of streets before reaching hers.  It could be bad in the area of Catalina Park, there are a lot of houses in the back there surrounded closely by their own large trees.  I hope that they are all safe tonight.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:57:48 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The Southerly has just arrived here now (12:57 AM).
 
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:28 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

It was a pretty hot night for a motorbike ride, Judy! When I was coming through the western suburbs around 4.30 the temp was around 45, and it seemed like around 40 when I dropped back down to Richmond on my detour back home. I was wearing full leathers (Ieft the jeans at home) and went through 5 x 600ml bottles of Powerade in 3 hours without one loo visit.
 
No sign of the Wollemi fires -- smoke or firelight -- from Bells, and I was looking.
 
Hope all goes well in Katoomba tonight. The southerly change is making very slow progress -- Nowra at 7.13pm, Kiama 10.13, and Sydney's southern suburbs around midnight. But it is very slow in penetrating inland -- Moss Vale still 30 deg with a Wly wind at midnight.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 13:12
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Thanks again Laurier.  I guess if that fire hadn't calmed down there could have been spot fires right across the Nth. Katoomba area.  There are so many trees all through those streets, I guess that we are lucky that Fourth Ave, is situated in the middle.
 
I imagine that it was a nice night for a motorbike ride, once you got past the frustration of having to turn back when so close to home.
 
I have to ask could you see any trace of the Wollemi fires or the ones at Lithgow when you got away from the lights on Bell's Line Road.
 
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

This may offer some comfort (from the NSW RFS media site at http://www.bushfire.nsw.gov.au/media/pressrelease.asp -- worth watching at times like this):
 
Issue time was 22.00
 
Blue Mountains
 
       A fire that started 1km west of the Explorers Tree, Katoomba at about 4.30pm, entered the North Katoomba catchment area and caused spotting in North Katoomba streets. Concerns were held
       for property in Mort St, North St and Whetton Rd however conditions have eased this evening and firefighters are confident of the safety of homes tonight. The Great Western Highway and
       railway line were closed. Self evacuees were gathering at the Civic Centre in Katoomba. There are no confirmed property losses.
 
       Over 35 RFS tankers were working in the area along with Fire Brigades firefighters and aircraft. Property protection was expected to be conducted throughout the night.
 
I can confirm that they're taking it seriously. There were 3 water bombing helicopters in operation when I left, and I passed 23 appliances on their way up the hill as I rode from Katoomba back down to Springwood.
 
The 11pm ABC news also indicated houses at risk on the southern edge of Medlow Bath. At time like this, I find that the news and in-program updates on 2BL (702) are by far the best.
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:22
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Laurier,  Thanks for the reply.  Frank's mother lives in Nth. Katoomba.  But from what you say, it seems that
the fire would have had to get through a lot of streets before reaching hers.  It could be bad in the area of Catalina Park, there are a lot of houses in the back there surrounded closely by their own large trees.  I hope that they are all safe tonight.
Judy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Judy, I arrived in Katoomba around 6pm en route to Blackheath from Sydney shortly after the highway was closed. At that stage, the fire was burning fiercely (flames one tree height above fully grown gum trees) on the western side of the North Katoomba valley just north of the highway railway overbridge, and less than 1km away. I waited for nearly an hour to see if they reopened the road, because Katoomba to  Blackheath is 10km direct and about 150km via Richmond and Bell. At 6.50 they evacuated the waiting vehicles from the highway, and so I headed back the long way. Latest news is that a wind change, presumably to northerly, has sent the fire into Nellies Glen and the Catalina Park area, which are both south of the highway. Catalina Park is surrounded by houses, so is a worry. No houses reported lost on the 10pm ABC news.
 
It was amazing just how quickly this fire got going. I pulled into a service station at Lawson for fuel at 5.20, with no smoke visible anywhere. When I got back on the road about 5.30, there was a column of smoke, and by the time I was stopped in Katoomba about 15 minutes later it was a blazing inferno. Very scary, and a lesson for those in bushfire-prone areas that, if you want to defend your house, you can't really afford to leave it during fire weather.
 
Laurier
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 10:53
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba NSW

Hello Everyone,
 
Does anyone know any more about the fires at Nth. Katoomba - ie, which streets are affected.  Just heard a news flash on Channel 7, saying that houses are in danger there.
 
Judy Mayo
 From: "John Woodbridge" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 00:22:55 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi third(?) An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore conditions. Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low compared to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at 152mm. I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would seem 155 or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with 100 years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. Highest recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at 780mm, Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. I wish we had received your 24mm, it would have made a significant difference to the state of some of the vegetation around here... John. >snip -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of third Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:29 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the month is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station at Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the middle of winter !!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > Hi All, > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some > very sick looking trees around. > > John. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ Subject: RE: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:30:32 +1300 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: Thread-Index: AcLIijfATNJ8+37WSCmLbVNG9kjcLAAA3ADQ From: "Pete McGhee" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jan 2003 18:30:44.0051 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3192A30:01C2C88D] X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id NAA02498 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com You can have cumulus above dust devils etc. as another effect of the rising thermal. The significant point I think is that a tornado requires a large and well developed storm structure in order to form, and dust devils occur on generally hot, still days. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Klipsi [mailto:klipsi at bluewin.ch] Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 18:58 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: A Tornado Question: a dust devil is not part of a storm, but only hot air rising and rotating . No cloud above. Occurs in hot blue sky. No storm. a tornado is part of a major storm. It is the spinal cord , the soul , the heart of a storm. No storm, no Tornado.. The storm is a pig , the tornado is the pig's tail. Where there's a tornado, there's always a storm attached to it. Many storms have a core inside that rotates, but as long as there's no touchdown it is not named a tornado. Only if there's contact to the ground, damage on the ground , debries flying, then you have a tornado. Klipsi What separates a willy willy (dust devil) from a tornado, ie. what makes a tornado a tornado? +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "third" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 06:09:49 +1000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com yes - we are actually about 15 or so K's inland from Redcliffe and in my experience would generally get less rainfall than Redcliffe. Though the tracking of one storm can make a big difference when the totals are so low. Redcliffe would normally get more storms than us as well. The worst of the storms seem to track South of here and cross the Redcliffe Peninsula or track North of here and head up through the Caboolture area. Our 24 mm fell in the first couple of days in January. But you are right it is certainly better than nothing ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Woodbridge" To: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:22 AM Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > Hi third(?) > > An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal > communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore conditions. > Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low compared > to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at 152mm. > I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would seem 155 > or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with 100 > years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. Highest > recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at 780mm, > Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. > > I wish we had received your 24mm, it would have made a significant > difference to the state of some of the vegetation around here... > > John. > >snip > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of third > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:29 PM > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the month > is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station at > Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the middle > of winter !!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > Hi All, > > > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low > > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single > > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest > > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some > > very sick looking trees around. > > > > John. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Sender: goriley at mail.tsn.cc X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:31:19 +1100 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: "Glen O'Riley" Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com So far Krambach is only up to 9mm this month. With stuff all chance of any today. At 01:22 AM 1/31/2003, you wrote: >Hi third(?) > >An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal >communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore conditions. >Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low compared >to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at 152mm. >I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would seem 155 >or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with 100 >years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. Highest >recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at 780mm, >Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. > >I wish we had received your 24mm, it would have made a significant >difference to the state of some of the vegetation around here... > >John. > >snip >-----Original Message----- >From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of third >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:29 PM >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > >We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the month >is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station at >Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the middle >of winter !!) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Woodbridge" >To: >Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > Hi All, > > > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly low > > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a single > > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our wettest > > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are some > > very sick looking trees around. > > > > John. > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: Fires North Katoomba Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:02:55 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Laurier and everyone,
 
I have been listening to the radio this morning and the fire is evidently now on the southern side of the highway at Katoomba.
 
Years ago the Katoomba Gazette had many articles about people wanting to build in the Cliff Drive area at Katoomba and also at Mt. Victoria in what were termed as fire funnel areas.
 
Does anyone know how the fire is affecting these properties today.  Back then the talk in Katoomba said that their owners would never be able to get insurance against bush fires.
 
Judy.
 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:13:11 +0000 To: aussie-weather at world.std.com From: Norman Lynagh Subject: aus-wx: London snow X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 4.00 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com I thought some of you winter weather lovers down there might be interested in the following METAR from London Gatwick Airport this morning: EGKK 301020Z 35028G38KT 0100 R26L/0400 +BLSN TS VV/// 01/M01 Q1007= Blowing snow and thunderstorm with vis 100M, sky obscured and near gale force N'ly wind with a temperature of 1c! Not exactly your every day London weather! It has been quite a day of weather in this neck of the woods. Currently here at 10 p.m., about 25 miles NW of Central London, we have 7 cm of snow on the ground, a temperature of minus 1c and a 20 knot N'ly wind. I've just been out with the dog and it was far from pleasant. Snow stopped play on the golf course this morning. Chilly cheers, Norman. =================================================================== Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy Chalfont St. Giles Buckinghamshire England =================================================================== +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Jane ONeill" To: Subject: aus-wx: Tornado Akrotiri Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:40:30 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Morning all, Images (6 in total atm) of the funnel cloud and tornado can be found here http://www.stormchasers.au.com/27_01_03.htm. Images from Nigel Bolton - UKMO (copyright) and supplied kindly by Les Crossan. Cheers, Jane -------------------------------- Jane ONeill - Melbourne cadence at australianskynweather.com Australian Sky and Weather www.stormchasers.au.com ASWA - Victoria http://www.severeweather.asn.au ***The journey is the reward.*** -------------------------------- +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Adam Mayo" To: Subject: aus-wx: NSW Rural Fire Service - Blue Mountains District Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:14:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Hello Everyone,
 
For those that haven't already found this site, it has an update on the current Katoomba fire and a small photo archive.
 Attachment Converted: "c:\program files\eudora\attach\NSW Rural Fire Service - Blue Mountains District.url" From: "Andrew Miskelly" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:26:25 +1100 Organization: The Weather Co. X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by europe.std.com id TAA00507 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com It appears Taralga PO broke it's maximum temperature record yesterday recording a rounded maximum of 39°C. The previous record was 38.2° achieved on 2/1/73. Laurier and perhaps others may have access to the actual figure for yesterday's temp. I assume a number of other sites have also broken records. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Laurier Williams Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 11:44 PM To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hot day Still an extraordinary 41 deg at Bourke at 9pm, and 40 at Walgett. I'll bet the pubs are doing good business tonight! Laurier > -----Original Message----- > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael > Thompson > Sent: Thursday, 30 January, 2003 12:14 > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day > > > A stiff seabreeze operated all day in the Wollongong Shellharbour > area. It enevr got past 32C at my home. > > This may sound desirable compared to 44C, but the 32C came with the > thinnest slug of humidity too. Very sweaty. > > By the way the SE just moved through here at 11pm, very light so far. > > Michael > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jimmy Deguara" > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:58 PM > Subject: aus-wx: Hot day > > > > Hi guys, > > > > Today felt and was a hot day as others have already suggested. > In 2001, it > > got slightly hotter but this will now last into the evening until > > the change arrives. At 7pm it was still over the 40C mark but now > > around 8pm > it > > is cooling down to the high 30's. I do recall it was already 40C > > mark at about midday. > > > > I think one can assume that this should be the hottest day of the > > summer period - we'll see. > > > > Jimmy Deguara > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > Please note the change to my new e-mail > > address: jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Storm Chasing Tours - Thunderbolt Tours - > http://www.thunderbolttours.com > > ----------------------------------------- > > Jimmy Deguara > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher > > > > from > > Schofields, Sydney > > NSW Australia > > > > e-mail:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com > > > > Web Page with Michael Bath > > > > Australian Severe Weather Home Page > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com > > > > Member of the Australian Severe Weather Association > > http://www.severeweather.asn.au > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail > to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the > body of your > > message. > > > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au--------------------------- > > --- > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hot day To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:00:44 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > It appears Taralga PO broke it's maximum temperature record yesterday > recording a rounded maximum of 39°C. The previous record was 38.2° > achieved on 2/1/73. > > Laurier and perhaps others may have access to the actual figure for > yesterday's temp. I assume a number of other sites have also broken > records. > > Andrew. > 38.8. I haven't done a detailed search for records, although I would be surprised if there were many sites that were open in 1939 that were hotter yesterday than they got in 1939 (I suspect a lot of inland locations were hotter in 2001 as well). Numerous records will have been set at locations which started obs after 1939. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: NSW Rural Fire Service - Blue Mountains District Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:35:51 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Very useful and informative link, Judy. I live here and didn't realise the site had been so well set up -- last time I looked it was just a brochure site.
 
Thanks
 
Laurier
 
-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
Sent: Friday, 31 January, 2003 00:14
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: NSW Rural Fire Service - Blue Mountains District

Hello Everyone,
 
For those that haven't already found this site, it has an update on the current Katoomba fire and a small photo archive.
 From: "Laurier Williams" To: Subject: RE: aus-wx: London snow Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 01:37:16 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > Snow > stopped play on the golf course this morning. Wimps! Use fluoro red golf balls! Laurier +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: Blair Trewin Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:57:41 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Hi third(?) > > An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal > communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore conditions. > Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low compared > to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at 152mm. > I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would seem 155 > or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with 100 > years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. Highest > recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at 780mm, > Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. > The '99' is a misread of the table - it's not the number of years, it's % complete. The Redcliffe site only has ~20 years of data, so it's not surprising that some individual months look a little anomalous. The annual mean of 1128 isn't too far out of line with the old Brisbane City site (1146) or Brisbane Airport (1185), especially as the very dry period since mid-1999 takes a big bite out of a 20-year record. Blair +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.220.168.232] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: aus-wx: Drizzle... Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:38:10 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 06:38:10.0743 (UTC) FILETIME=[528DD470:01C2C8F3] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, For those who (like me) are interested in the physics of rain formation this is an interesting article explaining how drizzle can form: http://www.nature.com/nsu/030120/030120-1.html Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Damian" To: Subject: aus-wx: January Averages Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:57:00 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
The January Averages for my backyard between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern Suburbs are as follows:
 
AVERAGE MAXIMUM: 32.9
AVERAGE MINIMUM: 17.5
HIGHEST MAXIMUM: 44.9 on the 18th
LOWEST MINIMUM:  13.7 on the 23rd
 
 
You can view each days statistics for this year to date and last year at my website:
 From: "Bussy" To: Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:43:19 +1100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Sorry for the one liner but, 0.2 here for January. You guys are getting drowned! ----- Original Message ----- From: "third" To: Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:09 AM Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > yes - we are actually about 15 or so K's inland from Redcliffe and in my > experience would generally get less rainfall than Redcliffe. Though the > tracking of one storm can make a big difference when the totals are so low. > Redcliffe would normally get more storms than us as well. The worst of the > storms seem to track South of here and cross the Redcliffe Peninsula or > track North of here and head up through the Caboolture area. Our 24 mm fell > in the first couple of days in January. But you are right it is certainly > better than nothing ! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Woodbridge" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:22 AM > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > Hi third(?) > > > > An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal > > communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore conditions. > > Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low > compared > > to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at 152mm. > > I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would seem > 155 > > or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with 100 > > years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. Highest > > recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at > 780mm, > > Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. > > > > I wish we had received your 24mm, it would have made a significant > > difference to the state of some of the vegetation around here... > > > > John. > > >snip > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of third > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:29 PM > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > > > We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the > month > > is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station at > > Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the > middle > > of winter !!) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Woodbridge" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record monthly > low > > > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a > single > > > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is 10.9mm > > > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > > > > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our > wettest > > > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now the > > > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There are > some > > > very sick looking trees around. > > > > > > John. > > > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ From: "Stargazer" To: "Aussie-Weather" Subject: aus-wx: Fw: [WeatherMatrix] Awesome waterspout photos from Russian tornado alley Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:32:37 +1030 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1123 Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi all, For those who may not have seen these pics yet... from another newsgroup. Regs. Paul. (Stargazer) http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olli Haukkovaara" To: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [WeatherMatrix] Awesome waterspout photos from Russian tornado alley > Hi! > > Probably some of the best waterspout photos on Internet > can be found from these URL's: > > http://www.planetakrim.com/gallery/tornado-sevastopol/index.html > > and > > http://www.planetakrim.com/gallery/tornado-morskoe/ > > My favorite is this one: > > http://www.planetakrim.com/gallery/tornado-morskoe/photo0.html > > That area can be called as "Russian tornado alley". See: > http://www.hotcity.com/~vladimir/stormsasia.htm > > Regards, Olli Haukkovaara, storm chaser from far north > > > ==================================================================== > WeatherMatrix Email List -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE EMAIL A BLANK MESSAGE TO: > weathermatrix-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com ; For Options Including > 1 Per Day, Temporary Suspending, And More, Visit This Web Address: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weathermatrix/join > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your message. -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ X-Originating-IP: [203.171.104.249] From: "Kevin Phyland" To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:28:43 +1100 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Jan 2003 10:28:43.0918 (UTC) FILETIME=[87C4D2E0:01C2C913] Sender: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com Hi every1, Sorry Bussy :)) But we've equalled our lowest Jan on record....zero again... Oh well...that's not that unusual for January in Wycheproof....in fact I think there are only five months of the year where zero isn't the lowest ever recorded...:(( Cheers, Kevin from Wycheproof. >From: "Bussy" >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com >To: >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:43:19 +1100 > >Sorry for the one liner but, 0.2 here for January. You guys are getting >drowned! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "third" >To: >Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:09 AM >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > yes - we are actually about 15 or so K's inland from Redcliffe and in my > > experience would generally get less rainfall than Redcliffe. Though the > > tracking of one storm can make a big difference when the totals are so >low. > > Redcliffe would normally get more storms than us as well. The worst of >the > > storms seem to track South of here and cross the Redcliffe Peninsula or > > track North of here and head up through the Caboolture area. Our 24 mm >fell > > in the first couple of days in January. But you are right it is >certainly > > better than nothing ! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Woodbridge" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:22 AM > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > > > > Hi third(?) > > > > > > An interesting post as it demonstrates the advantage that coastal > > > communities have when it comes to showers from light on-shore >conditions. > > > Yet the 99 year Redcliffe mean of 115mm for Jan seems stangely low > > compared > > > to Brisbane airport at 158mm for Jan, and also Redcliffe for Feb at >152mm. > > > I wonder if the 115 is not a error in the BoM site data as it would >seem > > 155 > > > or 165 would be a rather more likely figure. Then again, even with >100 > > > years worth of data, a few heavy falls may really skew the mean. >Highest > > > recorded Jan rain for Redcliffe is listed as only 445mm cf Ipswich at > > 780mm, > > > Brisbane Airport at 804mm and Brisbane city at 872mm. > > > > > > I wish we had received your 24mm, it would have made a significant > > > difference to the state of some of the vegetation around here... > > > > > > John. > > > >snip > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of third > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:29 PM > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > > > > > > We got a little rain that you didn't here in Petrie - My total for the > > month > > > is 24mm. The lowest on record for January at the nearest BOM station >at > > > Redcliffe is 19.8mm. Mean 115.5. (My lawn looks like it does in the > > middle > > > of winter !!) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John Woodbridge" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:21 AM > > > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Record low Jan rainfall likely > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > At Mt. Crosby we are just 48 hours away from scoring a record >monthly > > low > > > > rainfall, with the total for the month still sitting at Nil. Not a > > single > > > > measurable drop since Dec 26th. Previous record low for Jan is >10.9mm > > > > (Ipswich), and the forecast is remaining fine... > > > > > > > > All pretty amazing when you consider that January is normally our > > wettest > > > > month with a long term mean of 125mm. For this drought, this is now >the > > > > worst month yet experienced in terms of missing rainfall. There >are > > some > > > > very sick looking trees around. > > > > > > > > John. > > > > > > > > > > >+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > > message. > > > >-----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail >to:majordomo at world.std.com > > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of >your > > message. > > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ > > > > > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > To unsubscribe from aussie-weather send e-mail to:majordomo at world.std.com > with "unsubscribe aussie-weather your_email_address" in the body of your > message. > -----------------------jacob at iinet.net.au------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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Hey All,

Well, we've all heard of Groundhog Day (Made famous by Bill marry in the same movie), but this??? What next???

PaulY

Pig to predict weather
From correspondents in Wisconsin
January 31, 2003

INSTEAD of a groundhog, the local Cottage Grove Lions Club will use a potbellied pig to forecast the weather this weekend.

The club is also switching the date of its celebration from February 2 to February 1 because it can't muster enough volunteers to sell tickets at the door any other day.

Besides, the hall where the event is held has already been rented by a local church.

The Lions argue that Hamlet the Potbellied Pig proved his powers of prediction last year when he agreed with Jimmy the Groundhog: A sunny dawn meant spring would wait awhile.

Some traditionalists say the Lions Club is making a farce of the holiday.

"They're making a fallacy of it. They're demeaning Jimmy," joked Sun Prairie mayor Jo Ann Orfan.

Lee Phillips, food committee chairman, said last year's groundhog breakfast fed 462 people and raised money for scout clubs, scholarships and vision tests for kids.

The club also contributed $2,000 for Taylor Prairie School playground equipment and helped a local man who was seriously injured in a hunting accident, Phillips said.

Even the traditionalists agree the celebration has its advantages.

"They can have their fun, certainly," Orfan said. "I think they're not terribly conversant with history."

The Associated Press