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It certainly was an amazing and very intense chase. Quite scary seeing that
massive HP guster/mesocyclone come racing toward you. We really were lucky
to escape the beast, 1min longer taking photos and we would have been
slammed by it. A very violent storm.

I have put all my photos up  at  this amazing chase on this web page:
http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-03-03.htm
A full report will be at that address in the near future.

Dave Ellem
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> Hi Michael,
>
> I totally agree. This in my opinion is the first time I have seen HP
> structure that totally match the regular behaviour and structure observed
> in the US HP storms.
>
> Awesome!!!!!
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
>
> At 10:04 PM 31/3/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> >gee. what can i say. It is up there with pictures of USA HP storms I have
> >seen.
> >
> >Michael
> >
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> > at : <mailto:stormboy2003 at hotmail.com>Dave Ellem
> >To: <mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com>aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 9:55 PM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Giant supercells in NE NSW 30th of March 2003
> >
> >Evening everyone,
> >A mind blowing chase today!!!!! We chased a VERY powerful supercell near
> >the Evans Hd - Casino area. Too tired to go into great details - will
> >elaborate tomorrow. I'll let the photos explain. Boy did it have some
> >amazing structure!!
> >
> >The initial thick/massive anvil and then when the guster was nearby.
Check
> >how solid the anvil is above the guster in the 2nd photo!
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de01.jpg
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de02.jpg
> >
> >The guster as it developed and drew closer.
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de03.jpg
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de04.jpg
> >
> >The incredible overwhelming structure of the rapidly approaching guster.
> >And check out the rain/hail under the guster!
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de05.jpg
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de06.jpg
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de07.jpg
> >
> >The last shot of the amazing guster before we sped off - encountering
VERY
> >strong outflow winds.
> >http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330de08.jpg
> >
> >Overall this cell produced winds over 100km/hr, hail up to gold ball size
> >(smashing car windows), and massive amounts of rain - paddocks were
> >underwater  at  the rain!!! We were very lucky to escape it's
fury....VERY
> >lucky (it was almost another Casino HP situation). AC was under this cell
> >as well, so further reports to come. Someone pinch me - is it really the
> >end of March??
> >
> >
> >Dave
> >
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wish I could have been there ! (we dont get them that big here in NZ!)
Cheers
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Hi Bussie and all,
I don't know about sites for American Indians, but I do have this 
general belief that observant people of all civilisations everywhere 
have always come to expect certain weather following certain observed 
natural phenomena.
I have enjoyed reading the many observations that you have shared with 
the list  at  time to time.
Additionally I can remember all sorts of expectations shared by the 
farmers who have lived in their districts for a long time - they all 
seem to develop ideas about what natural sign heralds what sort of 
weather, and often this may have nothing to do with what the indigenous 
people before them believed.  They may very well be focussing on 
different phenomena.
These natural signs vary  at  place to place.  In Western Victoria we 
observed millions of earwigs, but never any cockroaches, whereas in 
Sydney there were many cockroaches but no earwigs (apart  at  the dead 
ones in boxes of books brought up  at  Victoria!).  I heard people in 
Vic trying to predict weather on what the earwigs did, and people in 
Sydney trying to do so on what the cockroaches were doing.
I think that those of us who live in cities and tear around frenetically 
trying to pack more and more into our days tend to miss out on observing 
the signs nature provides us with.  I am every bit as much at fault as 
anyone else is here.  When I lived in country Victoria as a kid I would 
look at every tree and every little animal or insect and try to work out 
what they were all doing and why.  And I would hear older people 
discussing the signs of weather changes on the way and I would go 
straight out and try to observe them for myself.  Now however, I am far 
more likely to look for clues about the weather in my computer than I am 
to take a walk along the river bank and have a good look around.  I 
think that by so doing my life has become poorer.
Sorry, my answer got a bit long.
Here endeth Phil's rave for today!

Phil
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> Just thinking. Interesting call Phil! Is there a similar site  at  the
> American Indians??
> Wonder if they have a similar thing. As most know, I like the natural
> approach to weather...
> 
> 
> > Some of the locals here in Hong Kong reckon I have been here so long
> I
> > have become indigenous, but I still reckon I'm an Aussie.
> > According to the dictionary, indigenous means: "Originating and
> living
> > or occurring naturally in an area or environment. See Synonyms at
> > native."
> > Therefore, as I originated in Australia, I ought to be indigenous to
> > Australia.
> > It's similar to the grin I get when I read about "Native Americans"
> and
> > the thought comes into my mind that, according to the dictionary,
> surely
> > every person born in America should be "Native American", not just
> those
> > who were earlier known as "American Indians".
> > It's no wonder people  at  other backgrounds find it hard to learn
> > English.  As soon as they learn what a new word means, then they have
> to
> > learn that it doesn't really mean that after all!
> >
> > Phil
> 
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chase report with radar, satpics, charts, photos etc is available here:

http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm

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Hi Michael

Very interesting report and good set of radar images and plots.

You mention the hook echoes on the radar, on some frames there is also
evidence of V notch signatures, this also atests to the updraft strength and
over HP supercell ( not that that was ever in question based on photo
evidence ).

Michael

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>
> chase report with radar, satpics, charts, photos etc is available here:
>
> http://australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm
>
> cheers, Michael
>
>
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Hi all,

March observation summary  at  my wx station here in Morphett Vale,
Adelaide, SA is now online
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/monthsummarch2003.htm

Other month's results are here
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm

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Well done Michael and Dave - these truly are awesome.  The layout of your
report is great, especially the excerpts  at  the radar images.

Regards,
Rhett

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chase report with radar, satpics, charts, photos etc is available here:

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Carl
I am receiving your email, however messages  at  here to carls at qldnet.com.au
keep bouncing back. Do you have another email address?
cheers
Ken

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Sue and all,
There is quite a collection of links to pages following various aspects 
of TC Inigo at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm and also at 
http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm for all those who like to 
follow TCs.  Carl and I work at keeping the links as up-to-date as 
possible, so the actual links are frequently changed several times a day 
when TCs are active.
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Has anyone got a sat pic or similar of the dust storms  at  the other day
over Victoria? Thanks in advance

Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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>Has anyone got a sat pic or similar of the dust storms  at  the other day
>over Victoria? Thanks in advance

http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html  Top few are  at  the day of the dust storm.

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Hi
Sorry i did have the sat pic but i deleted it off my 
server earlyer today but here is a pic of the dust here 
in Wagga on the 19/03/03

http://home.austarnet.com.au/440077/weather/photo4
.jpg

I have more pic`s put i scan them later in the week 
when i have some spare time to scan and edit them.

http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/19.3.2003.htm

Cheers. Robert

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>At 07:48 PM 2/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>
>>Has anyone got a sat pic or similar of the dust 
storms  at  the other day
>>over Victoria? Thanks in advance
>
>http://vkradio.com/wx_photos.html  Top few are 
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Hi. 
Here are some figures which is  at  The BOM`s AWS 
in Wagga.

http://www.weatherwatching.oz2k.com/figures.html

I think i have some error`s on the page but i hope to 
have them fixed later.

Cheers.


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>Hi all,
>
>March observation summary  at  my wx station here 
in Morphett Vale,
>Adelaide, SA is now online
>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/months
ummarch2003.htm
>
>Other month's results are here
>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weathe
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My AWN host has suffered a major fault due to a global IP range conflict
with another carrier. The parties attempted to resolve the conflict quickly
but ran into dispute and ended up with court injunctions stopping each other
 at  using the IP range in conflict! This forced both parties to allocate
new IP ranges and propagate these across their servers and the Internet.

As a result, Australian Weather News has been giving a "host unknown" or
"server not responding" for the past 24 hours, but should come online
sometime in the next 24 hours as the new IP addresses propagate around the
world.

This followed on  at  a flang frying my DSL phone line last weekend. Grrrrr.

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At 11:03 AM 3/04/2003 +0000, you wrote:

>My AWN host has suffered a major fault due to a global IP range conflict
>with another carrier. The parties attempted to resolve the conflict quickly
>but ran into dispute and ended up with court injunctions stopping each other
> at  using the IP range in conflict! This forced both parties to allocate
>new IP ranges and propagate these across their servers and the Internet.

Eeeek! Roll on IPv6 (the geeks among us will know what that is :) ).

>This followed on  at  a flang frying my DSL phone line last weekend. Grrrrr.

Seems like the storm found its way into the phone line... permanently! ;)

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In the 48 hours there could be possible cyclone formation in the corral sea 
near Papua New Guinea waters 9 South 153 East,potential to develop over the 
next few days is 0-24 hours low 24 - 48 hours moderate 48 - 72 hours 
moderate movement of this tropical low movement is se along with ths 
tropical trough a 1031 hpa high in the bight near Tasmania. The start of 
next week a trough  at  central Australia is expected to
approach western Queensland directing warmer N'ly winds and increasing
instability.


HERBERT AND LOWER BURDEKIN DISTRICT
Isolated showers. Isolated thunderstorms developing inland this afternoon. 
Light
to moderate E to NE winds.
Outlook for Saturday   ... Isolated showers and inland thunderstorms.
Outlook for Sunday     ... Mostly fine

Townsville aero-clubb
Cloud 4
Winds ssw 2 kms/ hour
Dry 28
Dew 18
High 88%fan
low over night 73%fan
Mostly cloudy.


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I'm looking for a an lingting Tracker handheld unit dose any body now were i 
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Latest sat pics have a very clearly defined eye - nice.

John.

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To bad that ingio is not going to hit anywere near the wa coastline still sw 
movement and a very nice eyewall John.






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Hmmm Rather good for W.A. I would have thought :), but there is still
reasonable prospect that it will recurve and may come down the West Coast as
often happens.

John.
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To bad that ingio is not going to hit anywere near the wa coastline still sw
movement and a very nice eyewall John.


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Just check out the lastest Nogaps MSLP rain chart looking very good for 
Wedsnday, could recive some good falls for that day and looks like to be set 
in for day all 2. Some cloud is starting to come in  at  the south west but 
not looking good for any thunderstorms what so ever the dewpoint is setting 
on 20.5 and the hpa 1007.9 and falling.


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All models are hinting that the Cyclone will recurve, but the question is
when. It could cross the coast anywhere  at  south of Perth to Port
Hedland. However there is strong windshear to the south of the system on
the moment.

The BoM is forecasting Rain Periods for Perth on Tuesday and Wednesday due
to the system.

Jacob


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Hi Jabco

Tropical cyclone ingio looks like to dissarpere into the weekend and fall in 
the hand of a tropical depression, Perth should recive some very good heavy 
fall  at  this system but won't get the system at all if they are lucky they 
mite get winds up 90 kms/hour.


Michael



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>All models are hinting that the Cyclone will recurve, but the question is
>when. It could cross the coast anywhere  at  south of Perth to Port
>Hedland. However there is strong windshear to the south of the system on
>the moment.
>
>The BoM is forecasting Rain Periods for Perth on Tuesday and Wednesday due
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>
>Jacob
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>as
> >often happens.
> >
> >John.
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You may be interested in this......

April 4, 2003
Late Breaking News: WeatherLink 5.4 Ready for Beta Testing

Davis WeatherLink software users will be delighted to know that our
latest version, 5.4 is almost ready. The new version will be especially
welcomed by owners of Weather Monitor, Weather Wizard, and Perception
stations, as it supports all Davis weather stations at the same
standards as the Vantage Pro software. Monitor and Perception owners
will even be able to get a forecast! (Sorry, Wizard owners, forecasts
require a barometer!)

But, although WeatherLink for Vantage Pro owners already have most of
the features of the new version, even they will find some new ones
included in the new version. Version 5.4 will allow all station owners
to post their data to the "Personal Weather Station" pages on Weather
Underground http://www.weatherunderground.com/weatherstation/index.asp .
It also has been designed to report data for use in the GLOBE school
program.

But before we release the new version, we need our trusty Beta Testers
to help us identify any bugs or weak spots. If you would like to
participate, you can download the free beta version
http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/software.asp#vantagebeta  at 
the Davis website. The beta version is free and fully functional, but it
will expire on May 31.


Cheers,

Jane
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Australian Sky & Weather
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Its surprising it has taken them so long....to have the older models
supported by the new weatherlink version.....but i guess they wanted to iron
out all the problems with the VP users....
Heck, I only program in my spare time, and we have 3 young kids, and they
are only just now 3 years later adding wunderground support...(the
wunderground perosnal weather project is 3 years or so old now).
but at least they have!
just my thoughts.

Cheers
Brian
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Well no storms to report about but severe rain hit Kelso with 23 mm in just 
10 mins trees were blowen at 90 drg's and winds at 45 kms/hour, on the 
nogaps still shows rain for Wednesday but could be in town so just coastal 
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Greetings all.

I've put up a set of pages (well, about 1,200 actually) on Australian
Weather News that give current 3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all
Australia, along with a one-week archive.

There's a page for each weather district that gradually fills through the
day with all the observations for each station in the district. Archive
links at the top of each page to go to the previous 7 days' obs.

State reports are available for each synoptic hour, and there's a one-week
archive of about 400 obs sets on a separate page.

Observations of noteworthy or severe weather for the whole country are
accumulated onto one special page. There are also special pages for capital
cities and regional centres.

My motivation for doing this is that, although the hourly AWS observations
are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau and other sites, the much more
detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations aren't. Most of these are human
observations, so they include visual observations of weather, cloud, etc,
that give a lot more depth to the information. The problem is that there is
so much information that representing it on screen is a challenge. I've made
extensive use of symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to
highlight significant weather such as high rainfall, strong winds, high/low
temperatures, severe or interesting weather types, and significant cloud
types. On good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports light up like
the control panels on the starship Enterprise.

The gateway page is at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm, and theres a big
help and description page  at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm. Be warned that it
works best on higher screen resolutions, but should still be usable, with a
bit of panning, on 800x600.

If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't work or looks funny on
your setup, please let me know.

Hope you enjoy it!
Laurier

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fantastic stuff laurier!!!<BR>slowly lokking 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt; Greetings all.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've put up a set of pages (well, 
about 1,200 actually) on Australian<BR>&gt; Weather News that give current 
3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all<BR>&gt; Australia, along with a 
one-week archive.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a page for each weather district that 
gradually fills through the<BR>&gt; day with all the observations for each 
station in the district. Archive<BR>&gt; links at the top of each page to go to 
the previous 7 days' obs.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; State reports are available for each 
synoptic hour, and there's a one-week<BR>&gt; archive of about 400 obs sets on a 
separate page.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Observations of noteworthy or severe weather for 
the whole country are<BR>&gt; accumulated onto one special page. There are also 
special pages for capital<BR>&gt; cities and regional centres.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
My motivation for doing this is that, although the hourly AWS 
observations<BR>&gt; are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau and other 
sites, the much more<BR>&gt; detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations aren't. 
Most of these are human<BR>&gt; observations, so they include visual 
observations of weather, cloud, etc,<BR>&gt; that give a lot more depth to the 
information. The problem is that there is<BR>&gt; so much information that 
representing it on screen is a challenge. I've made<BR>&gt; extensive use of 
symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to<BR>&gt; highlight significant 
weather such as high rainfall, strong winds, high/low<BR>&gt; temperatures, 
severe or interesting weather types, and significant cloud<BR>&gt; types. On 
good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports light up like<BR>&gt; the 
control panels on the starship Enterprise.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; The gateway page is 
at<BR>&gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm</FONT></A><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>, and theres a big<BR>&gt; help and description page&nbsp; 
at<BR>&gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm</FONT></A><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>. Be warned that it<BR>&gt; works best on higher screen 
resolutions, but should still be usable, with a<BR>&gt; bit of panning, on 
800x600.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't 
work or looks funny on<BR>&gt; your setup, please let me know.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; 
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Jacob

I have been looking at some models and looks like it well be week when it 
crosses the coast.



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>Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:41:28 +0800
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>
>
>All models are hinting that the Cyclone will recurve, but the question is
>when. It could cross the coast anywhere  at  south of Perth to Port
>Hedland. However there is strong windshear to the south of the system on
>the moment.
>
>The BoM is forecasting Rain Periods for Perth on Tuesday and Wednesday due
>to the system.
>
>Jacob
>
>
>At 11:18 AM 4/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hmmm Rather good for W.A. I would have thought :), but there is still
> >reasonable prospect that it will recurve and may come down the West Coast 
>as
> >often happens.
> >
> >John.
> >>snip
> >
> >To bad that ingio is not going to hit anywere near the wa coastline still 
>sw
> >movement and a very nice eyewall John.
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What a vast amount of work you have put into that!  If my wife hadn't 
interrupted me I might have been still reading through your site 
tomorrow!
Well done!

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To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 11:28:37 -0000
Subject: aus-wx: New detailed synoptic observations

> Greetings all.
> 
> I've put up a set of pages (well, about 1,200 actually) on Australian
> Weather News that give current 3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all
> Australia, along with a one-week archive.
> 
> There's a page for each weather district that gradually fills through
> the
> day with all the observations for each station in the district. Archive
> links at the top of each page to go to the previous 7 days' obs.
> 
> State reports are available for each synoptic hour, and there's a
> one-week
> archive of about 400 obs sets on a separate page.
> 
> Observations of noteworthy or severe weather for the whole country are
> accumulated onto one special page. There are also special pages for
> capital
> cities and regional centres.
> 
> My motivation for doing this is that, although the hourly AWS
> observations
> are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau and other sites, the much
> more
> detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations aren't. Most of these are human
> observations, so they include visual observations of weather, cloud,
> etc,
> that give a lot more depth to the information. The problem is that
> there is
> so much information that representing it on screen is a challenge. I've
> made
> extensive use of symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to
> highlight significant weather such as high rainfall, strong winds,
> high/low
> temperatures, severe or interesting weather types, and significant
> cloud
> types. On good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports light up
> like
> the control panels on the starship Enterprise.
> 
> The gateway page is at
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm, and theres
> a big
> help and description page  at
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm. Be warned that
> it
> works best on higher screen resolutions, but should still be usable,
> with a
> bit of panning, on 800x600.
> 
> If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't work or looks
> funny on
> your setup, please let me know.
> 
> Hope you enjoy it!
> Laurier
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am impressed too!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>here is my simple attempt for NZ</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fantastic stuff laurier!!!<BR>slowly lokking 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> at : "Laurier Williams" &lt;</FONT><A 
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  PM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: aus-wx: New detailed synoptic 
  observations</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>&gt; Greetings all.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I've put up a set of pages (well, 
  about 1,200 actually) on Australian<BR>&gt; Weather News that give current 
  3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all<BR>&gt; Australia, along with a 
  one-week archive.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a page for each weather district 
  that gradually fills through the<BR>&gt; day with all the observations for 
  each station in the district. Archive<BR>&gt; links at the top of each page to 
  go to the previous 7 days' obs.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; State reports are available 
  for each synoptic hour, and there's a one-week<BR>&gt; archive of about 400 
  obs sets on a separate page.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Observations of noteworthy or 
  severe weather for the whole country are<BR>&gt; accumulated onto one special 
  page. There are also special pages for capital<BR>&gt; cities and regional 
  centres.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; My motivation for doing this is that, although the 
  hourly AWS observations<BR>&gt; are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau 
  and other sites, the much more<BR>&gt; detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations 
  aren't. Most of these are human<BR>&gt; observations, so they include visual 
  observations of weather, cloud, etc,<BR>&gt; that give a lot more depth to the 
  information. The problem is that there is<BR>&gt; so much information that 
  representing it on screen is a challenge. I've made<BR>&gt; extensive use of 
  symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to<BR>&gt; highlight 
  significant weather such as high rainfall, strong winds, high/low<BR>&gt; 
  temperatures, severe or interesting weather types, and significant 
  cloud<BR>&gt; types. On good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports 
  light up like<BR>&gt; the control panels on the starship Enterprise.<BR>&gt; 
  <BR>&gt; The gateway page is at<BR>&gt; </FONT><A 
  href="http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm"><FONT 
  face=Arial 
  size=2>http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm</FONT></A><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>, and theres a big<BR>&gt; help and description page&nbsp; 
  at<BR>&gt; </FONT><A 
  href="http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm"><FONT 
  face=Arial 
  size=2>http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm</FONT></A><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>. Be warned that it<BR>&gt; works best on higher screen 
  resolutions, but should still be usable, with a<BR>&gt; bit of panning, on 
  800x600.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't 
  work or looks funny on<BR>&gt; your setup, please let me know.<BR>&gt; 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: New detailed synoptic observations
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 09:29:33 +1000
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What can I say other than what an awesome amount of information all in one
place. A well deserved pat on the back  at  me. Well done Laurier. BTW
running 800 X 600 and have no trouble here.
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To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 9:28 PM
Subject: aus-wx: New detailed synoptic observations


> Greetings all.
>
> I've put up a set of pages (well, about 1,200 actually) on Australian
> Weather News that give current 3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all
> Australia, along with a one-week archive.
>
> There's a page for each weather district that gradually fills through the
> day with all the observations for each station in the district. Archive
> links at the top of each page to go to the previous 7 days' obs.
>
> State reports are available for each synoptic hour, and there's a one-week
> archive of about 400 obs sets on a separate page.
>
> Observations of noteworthy or severe weather for the whole country are
> accumulated onto one special page. There are also special pages for
capital
> cities and regional centres.
>
> My motivation for doing this is that, although the hourly AWS observations
> are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau and other sites, the much more
> detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations aren't. Most of these are human
> observations, so they include visual observations of weather, cloud, etc,
> that give a lot more depth to the information. The problem is that there
is
> so much information that representing it on screen is a challenge. I've
made
> extensive use of symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to
> highlight significant weather such as high rainfall, strong winds,
high/low
> temperatures, severe or interesting weather types, and significant cloud
> types. On good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports light up
like
> the control panels on the starship Enterprise.
>
> The gateway page is at
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm, and theres a
big
> help and description page  at
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm. Be warned that it
> works best on higher screen resolutions, but should still be usable, with
a
> bit of panning, on 800x600.
>
> If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't work or looks funny
on
> your setup, please let me know.
>
> Hope you enjoy it!
> Laurier
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I was just wonding with the 1001hpa low at 157 East at 8 South, seams to be 
drifting south east but you have a trough line with this system. will that 
keek moving South all South east. could this system have any chance of 
moving back to the west south West and turn into a cyclone. i have been 
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The rest of the country might have its storms and its cyclones (well
that's the way it seems atm), but Victoria has its sunsets!!!!  The last
couple of days have seen iridescence, a circumhorizontal arc (I think)
and some stunning sunsets.....

me  at  the eastern suburbs.... (6 images at the top of this page)
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03jon.htm

Shawn Smits  at  the western suburbs.... (10 images at the top of this
page)
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03ss.htm

Interesting how different the shots of the same thing can be depending
on perspective and cloud cover...

Enjoy!!

Jane

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what do you mean by cyclones and storms Jane, you have to live up in the 
tropic's 365 days of summer what winter. nice pic's anyway just to top it 
off 23 mm fall in just under 10 mins as we had a severe tropical rain storm 
i can tell you it was good to watch.






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>Subject: aus-wx: Victorian sunsets
>Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2003 21:49:47 +1000
>
>The rest of the country might have its storms and its cyclones (well
>that's the way it seems atm), but Victoria has its sunsets!!!!  The last
>couple of days have seen iridescence, a circumhorizontal arc (I think)
>and some stunning sunsets.....
>
>me  at  the eastern suburbs.... (6 images at the top of this page)
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03jon.htm
>
>Shawn Smits  at  the western suburbs.... (10 images at the top of this
>page)
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03ss.htm
>
>Interesting how different the shots of the same thing can be depending
>on perspective and cloud cover...
>
>Enjoy!!
>
>Jane
>
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Great pic`s Jane. I got some pic`s of the high cloud around 
sunset yesterday.

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> at : "Jane ONeill" <cadence at australianskynweather.com>  
>Subject: aus-wx: Victorian sunsets  
>To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>
>The rest of the country might have its storms and its cyclones 
(well
>that's the way it seems atm), but Victoria has its sunsets!!!!  
The last
>couple of days have seen iridescence, a circumhorizontal arc 
(I think)
>and some stunning sunsets.....
>
>me  at  the eastern suburbs.... (6 images at the top of this 
page)
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03jon.htm
>
>Shawn Smits  at  the western suburbs.... (10 images at the 
top of this
>page)
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03ss.htm
>
>Interesting how different the shots of the same thing can be 
depending
>on perspective and cloud cover...
>
>Enjoy!!
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>cadence at australianskynweather.com
>
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>
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TROPICAL DISTURBANCE TD [1002 HPA] LOCATED NEAR 16.1S 169.5E AT 062100 UTC. 
SLOW
MOVING. POSITION POOR BASED ON GMS5 VISIBLE ANIMATION AND PERIPHERAL SURFACE
OBSERVATION. THE SYSTEM IS EMBEDDED IN A CONVERGENCE ZONE AND IS FAIRLY
DISORGANISED WITH MAJOR CLOUD BANDS MOSTLY SCATTERED AROUND THE CENTRE.
THE SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURE AROUND THE AREA IS 30 DEGREES.
TD LIES TO THE WEST OF AN UPPER [250 HPA] ANTICYCLONIC CIRCULATION AND IN A 
GOOD
DIFFLUENCE REGION. THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY IN A WEAK SHEARED ENVIRONMENT,
HOWEVER, IT IS EXPECTED TO ENCOUNTER STRONGER SHEAR AS IT TRACK 
SOUTHEASTWARD.
MOST OF THE GLOBAL MODELS HAD CAPTURED THE SYSTEM AND ALL ARE IN GENERAL
AGREEMENT FOR FURTHER INTENSIFICATION AND MOVING IT SOUTHEASTWARD. HOWEVER, 
IT
SHOULD BECOME MORE EXTRA-TROPICAL IN NEXT 24 HOURS.
POTENTIAL FOR THE SYSTEM TO DEVELOP INTO TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NEXT 24 TO 48 
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How spot on am i with Tropical Cyclone Ingio, crossing the coast as a 
tropical low with winds up to 90 kms/hour near the week centre. don't you 
love this game the last two tropical systems have form off wa have all trun 
into a tropical low. Bad luck guys maybe next time round but you should get 
some heavy rains  at  the system and flooding. I love this game whens the 
next game coming. i like it



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<P>I love storms and following their paths via photos, radar and other weather maps. However I do not like the damage they cause to people, animals and property. Wind damage and flooding causes severe damage, cuts people off in isolated areas, kills their stock and some people lose their lives. It isn't a game. It is nature and should be treated with a bit more respect.<BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;How spot on am i with Tropical Cyclone Ingio, crossing the coast as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;a tropical low with winds up to 90 kms/hour near the week centre. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;don't you love this game the last two tropical systems have form off 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wa have all trun into a tropical low. Bad luck guys maybe next time 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;round but you should get some heavy rains  at  the system and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;flooding. I love this game whens the next game coming. i like it 
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<DIV><SPAN class=718514703-07042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>Especially when you live in the area it is going to 
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  maps. However I do not like the damage they cause to people, animals and 
  property. Wind damage and flooding causes severe damage, cuts people off in 
  isolated areas, kills their stock and some people lose their lives. It isn't a 
  game. It is nature and should be treated with a bit more 
respect.<BR></P></DIV>
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  coast as 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;a tropical low with winds up to 90 kms/hour near the week 
  centre. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;don't you love this game the last two tropical systems have 
  form off 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;wa have all trun into a tropical low. Bad luck guys maybe next 
  time 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;round but you should get some heavy rains  at  the system and 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;flooding. I love this game whens the next game coming. i like 
  it 
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Sue Sue Sue i live in the tropics and love cyclones re-member the day that 
cyclone Tessie hit 70 kms north of Townsville, I was on a mission out on one 
of the reefs and broke my arm but when it hit at 2am inext morning i was 
sitting out side and watching it the powerlines banging togeter with 
sparke's flying down the street. i saw one old big gum tree slam down on 
next door roof how house roof starting to come undone and heeps of flooding 
thats and i do call it a game its part of life you pick up and start again 
thats what why you call it a game it test you out on how you can hadle it. 
I'm ready for the next round of cyclones.






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>The rest of the country might have its storms and its cyclones (well
>that's the way it seems atm), but Victoria has its sunsets!!!!  The last
>couple of days have seen iridescence, a circumhorizontal arc (I think)
>and some stunning sunsets.....

Nice pics...  We're gonna be called the Sunset State soon.  I'm already 
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Interesting to note a split in the cloudband over northwestern Victoria,
as well as a small circulation to the west of Tasmania on the
0330satpic, which has moved east and is now (0630) over northern
Tasmania. Worth watching during today for further developments.

Jane

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Hi all.

Slightly off topic but...

Does anyone know of a formula thingo to calculate sunrise/sunset times per
lat/long location? Still playing with my web page and thought it might be
nice to change backgrounds etc depending on time of day etc




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The midday chart at http://www.australianweathernews.com/charts/synop03F.gif
puts it off the NE Tassie coast, and some good rainfall totals starting to
show up in the northeast with 21mm in 3 hours to noon at St Helens. Together
with the action in WA, the new noteworthy obs page at
http://members.ozemail.com.au/%7Ewbc/pub/SA0NOTE.HTM is starting to look
quite colourful!

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> 0330satpic, which has moved east and is now (0630) over northern
> Tasmania. Worth watching during today for further developments.
>
> Jane
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Yes indeed :)

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> At 09:49 PM 6/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>
> >The rest of the country might have its storms and its cyclones (well
> >that's the way it seems atm), but Victoria has its sunsets!!!!  The last
> >couple of days have seen iridescence, a circumhorizontal arc (I think)
> >and some stunning sunsets.....
>
> Nice pics...  We're gonna be called the Sunset State soon.  I'm already
> getting a few comments about being a sunset photographer. ;-)
>
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One for Brian he has it in his weather-display software.
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> Hi all.
>
> Slightly off topic but...
>
> Does anyone know of a formula thingo to calculate sunrise/sunset times per
> lat/long location? Still playing with my web page and thought it might be
> nice to change backgrounds etc depending on time of day etc
>
>
>
>
> *************************************
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yup, i do, but i think its java code for the web page you are after?
i did see that on this BBS:
(you may have to look through it a bit)
http://www.weatherarchive.net/bbs/vantageproboard/
Cheers
Brian
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> One for Brian he has it in his weather-display software.
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> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:24 AM
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>
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Slightly off topic but...
> >
> > Does anyone know of a formula thingo to calculate sunrise/sunset times
per
> > lat/long location? Still playing with my web page and thought it might
be
> > nice to change backgrounds etc depending on time of day etc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *************************************
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Thanks All. I will try and decipher the java code but I am actually looking
for the formula in Algebra. Not in code format. I just want to have a play.


Regards, Peter




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yup, i do, but i think its java code for the web page you are after?
i did see that on this BBS:
(you may have to look through it a bit)
http://www.weatherarchive.net/bbs/vantageproboard/
Cheers
Brian
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> One for Brian he has it in his weather-display software.
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> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
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> Subject: aus-wx: Sunset's in general
>
>
> > Hi all.
> >
> > Slightly off topic but...
> >
> > Does anyone know of a formula thingo to calculate sunrise/sunset times
per
> > lat/long location? Still playing with my web page and thought it might
be
> > nice to change backgrounds etc depending on time of day etc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *************************************
> > #1 Beach Bum
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This is worth a look http://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/help.htm#sun
if you just want the answer...

 and these might help you out in your exploration of the algebra....
http://www.learning.gov.ab.ca/k_12/testing/diploma/projects/feb_2001/feb
2001_pure_ma30_ans.pdf

and this if you want a calculator...
ftp://ftp.eunet.bg/pub/simtelnet/msdos/calculte/sun.zip

Cheers,

Jane

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> Thanks All. I will try and decipher the java code but I am actually
looking
> for the formula in Algebra. Not in code format. I just want to have a
play.
>
>
> Regards, Peter
>
>
>
>
> *************************************
> #1 Beach Bum
> Beach Bum Solutions
> www.beach-bum-solutions.com
> Mystery Bay NSW Aus
> ************************************
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  at : Brian Hamilton [mailto:windy at ps.gen.nz]
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2003 6:31 PM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Sunset's in general
>
>
> yup, i do, but i think its java code for the web page you are after?
> i did see that on this BBS:
> (you may have to look through it a bit)
> http://www.weatherarchive.net/bbs/vantageproboard/
> Cheers
> Brian
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> > Subject: aus-wx: Sunset's in general
> >
> >
> > > Hi all.
> > >
> > > Slightly off topic but...
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a formula thingo to calculate sunrise/sunset
times
> per
> > > lat/long location? Still playing with my web page and thought it
might
> be
> > > nice to change backgrounds etc depending on time of day etc
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *************************************
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> > > www.beach-bum-solutions.com
> > > Mystery Bay NSW Aus
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There us another good link here:
http://www.peter-hayes.freeserve.co.uk/ephemeris/index.html

Regards,
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This is worth a look http://www.auslig.gov.au/geodesy/astro/help.htm#sun
if you just want the answer...

 and these might help you out in your exploration of the algebra....
http://www.learning.gov.ab.ca/k_12/testing/diploma/projects/feb_2001/feb
2001_pure_ma30_ans.pdf

and this if you want a calculator...
ftp://ftp.eunet.bg/pub/simtelnet/msdos/calculte/sun.zip

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Jane

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> Thanks All. I will try and decipher the java code but I am actually
looking
> for the formula in Algebra. Not in code format. I just want to have a
play.
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> yup, i do, but i think its java code for the web page you are after?
> i did see that on this BBS:
> (you may have to look through it a bit)
> http://www.weatherarchive.net/bbs/vantageproboard/
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Hi all,

The reports are up and up to date listed  at  this page:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html

Directly though:
This is Michael Bath's report of the 2 guy team that chased this 
spectacular event!!!!! Included are speciall radar images and beautiful 
satellite pictures so check this out

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm

The following report is my report on the giant hail that bombarded my car 
as well as the tornadic funnel observed earlier. Still worth a look as I 
would like opinions of the hail sizes.

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-02.htm

Jimmy Deguara


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Hi Jimmy and Everyone,

The damage to your car looks to be exactly the same as the damage that
happened in our street on 19th December, 1997.
The hail marks on your car look to me to be just like the ones on all of the
cars that were outside in Mona Vale that day.  Although I wasn't home at the
time our neighbours reported cricket ball size hail and I saw a few examples
of that size hail stones that had been placed in a couple of neighbour's
freezers.
It did about $12,000 damage to our house that day.  We were glad that we had
insurance that is for sure.
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Hi Judy,

Well there is now a video file of the hail falling.

Quite loud too.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:30 PM 9/4/2003 +1000, you wrote:
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>
>The damage to your car looks to be exactly the same as the damage that
>happened in our street on 19th December, 1997.
>The hail marks on your car look to me to be just like the ones on all of the
>cars that were outside in Mona Vale that day.  Although I wasn't home at the
>time our neighbours reported cricket ball size hail and I saw a few examples
>of that size hail stones that had been placed in a couple of neighbour's
>freezers.
>It did about $12,000 damage to our house that day.  We were glad that we had
>insurance that is for sure.
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As  at  what i can see with the El Nina has finely gone, and now in a Neural 
La Nina sould get at least 4 cyclone cross the tropic's in the 2003-2004 
cyclone season. As we head into a week la Nina could see one severe cyclone 
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Hi all,

I have only posted on here once or twice, have had nothing to contribute
until now.

I finally got my slides back and scanned  at  a storm in November 2002.
I did not have time to get close to the storm in the photos, the pics
were taken  at  about 30km away. The storm I captured was moving across
Port Phillip Bay, I took the shots  at  the top of Mt Dandenong. I was
waiting for a larger storm to come our way  at  the western suburbs
which ran out of puff and never eventuated.

To me the scans look out of focus - however the slides are razor sharp.
Not sure if the scan is bad or what. Any comments appreciated. You will
see a clear difference between my first two shots on Kodak Gold 100 and
the rest which are on Fuji Sensia Slide 100.

Anyway pics are at www.michaelsphotography.net (click on lightning
gallery)

There is also a new off-topic gallery on the site called "Cityscape"
with a few nightime city shots I tried after the storm fizzed out.

Hope you like the pics.

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Michael.


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Hey All,

Well, after quite an early wake up this morning, I decided to watch the
Sunrise program on Channel 7, and they had an interview with Blair Trewin  at 
7:22am, talking about the drought, and what the Bureau is thinking about
rainfall for the 3 month outlook, as well as the El nino. Quite a good
interview...congratulations Blair.

PaulY

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> 
> Hey All,
> 
> Well, after quite an early wake up this morning, I decided to watch the
> Sunrise program on Channel 7, and they had an interview with Blair Trewin  at 
> 7:22am, talking about the drought, and what the Bureau is thinking about
> rainfall for the 3 month outlook, as well as the El nino. Quite a good
> interview...congratulations Blair.
> 
> PaulY
> 

Thanks for the compliment. It was actually quite a disconcerting
interview to do - they filmed on location at Federation Square but 
the hosts were in Sydney, and trying to concentrate on (a) listening
to questions coming in via an earpiece, (b) looking into the camera and
(c) avoiding being distracted by the trucks that drove past just as 
a question was being asked, all at the same time, was something of
a challenge.

Blair
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Excellent Blair,

When I was down in Melbourne I did 2 of the 3 you did - live interview on 
the Today Show in Melbourne to the woman in Sydney on a Saturday morning. 
But trucks passing by nope... (in the studio.

Jimmy Deguara



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> > Hey All,
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> > 7:22am, talking about the drought, and what the Bureau is thinking about
> > rainfall for the 3 month outlook, as well as the El nino. Quite a good
> > interview...congratulations Blair.
> >
> > PaulY
> >
>
>Thanks for the compliment. It was actually quite a disconcerting
>interview to do - they filmed on location at Federation Square but
>the hosts were in Sydney, and trying to concentrate on (a) listening
>to questions coming in via an earpiece, (b) looking into the camera and
>(c) avoiding being distracted by the trucks that drove past just as
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Finally getting a little bit of the wet stuff here. Only 3mm in the last
half hour but that's 10 percent of my yearly total so far. Is moderately
heavy showers at times. More please.....

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Finally getting a little bit of the wet stuff here. Only 3mm in the last
half hour but that's 10 percent of my yearly total so far. Is moderately
heavy showers at times. More please.....

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Wow a big 3mm hey some rain event, see if you can bet Kelso record 23mm in 
10 min's, good to see that you are getting some rain anyway.

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Hey All,

Things are getting quite drastic out here in the Wimmera (Western Victoria).

The Wimmera Mallee water storages are now down to a critical 6.3% of
capacity, with 5 reservoirs dry, with only 57% in the fullest.

Totals are:

Batyo Catyo, Dock, Green, Lonsdale and Pine lakes - Empty
Bellfield - 10%
Fyans - 20%
Moora - 22%
Rocklands - 3%
Taylors - 20%
Toolondo - 1%
Wartook - 57%

Lets hope there is some serious rain in the area soon. Grampians Water has
already put in a request for $8 million in funding  at  the Victorian
Government for water cartage to farms if the winter rainfalls are below
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In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen hemisphere at 
10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72 hours show 
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Incredible ! well done!
Gavin SSWW Canberra






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>What can I say other than what an awesome amount of information all in one
>place. A well deserved pat on the back  at  me. Well done Laurier. BTW
>running 800 X 600 and have no trouble here.
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>
> > Greetings all.
> >
> > I've put up a set of pages (well, about 1,200 actually) on Australian
> > Weather News that give current 3-hourly (synoptic) observations for all
> > Australia, along with a one-week archive.
> >
> > There's a page for each weather district that gradually fills through 
>the
> > day with all the observations for each station in the district. Archive
> > links at the top of each page to go to the previous 7 days' obs.
> >
> > State reports are available for each synoptic hour, and there's a 
>one-week
> > archive of about 400 obs sets on a separate page.
> >
> > Observations of noteworthy or severe weather for the whole country are
> > accumulated onto one special page. There are also special pages for
>capital
> > cities and regional centres.
> >
> > My motivation for doing this is that, although the hourly AWS 
>observations
> > are well covered by Weatherzone, the Bureau and other sites, the much 
>more
> > detailed 3-hourly synoptic observations aren't. Most of these are human
> > observations, so they include visual observations of weather, cloud, 
>etc,
> > that give a lot more depth to the information. The problem is that there
>is
> > so much information that representing it on screen is a challenge. I've
>made
> > extensive use of symbols and colour-coding to overcome this, and to
> > highlight significant weather such as high rainfall, strong winds,
>high/low
> > temperatures, severe or interesting weather types, and significant cloud
> > types. On good weather days (like last Wednesday), the reports light up
>like
> > the control panels on the starship Enterprise.
> >
> > The gateway page is at
> > http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_grouped.cfm, and theres a
>big
> > help and description page  at
> > http://www.australianweathernews.com/synoptics_help.htm. Be warned that 
>it
> > works best on higher screen resolutions, but should still be usable, 
>with
>a
> > bit of panning, on 800x600.
> >
> > If you have any suggestions or find anything doesn't work or looks funny
>on
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Subject: aus-wx: Nth Central Vic chase
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi everyone,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Those of you who have been around for a while will 
remmeebr me or know me (poor souls) but I broke my storm curse tonight so I'd 
thought I'd relay my chase :-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After having worked all day couriering and driving 
through the (Vic) torrential downpours for 5 hours or so till midday,&nbsp;I was 
interested about midday or so to find out what the clearing edge was doing. 
After a couple of calls to Anthony Cornelius it was obvious that behind the 
rainband was extremely unstable due in part to a cold pool and upper trough over 
SW Vic. I managed to finish work around 5pm and got home to have a looksee for 
myself (and got asked wtf am I doing home lol). After 30mins or so deliberation 
I decided to head NW along the Calder Fwy/Hwy toward Bendigo as a guy on IRC in 
Wycheproof had a good storm go through his town and it was heading 
SSE</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All the way up to Bendigo I could hear static but 
couldn't see any lightning and I thought the curse I have had on storms all 
season was going to continue. I drove through about 25km of anvil rain before 
arriving in Bendigo, and having seen the odd flash now and then, decided to call 
Anthony and find out what was going on as there was a lot of anvil cirrus around 
so was a little difficult to see what was going up and what was dying. He told 
me that Echuca was going off and I should try to get there if I could. As I had 
driven all day for work and was quite "driving" tired I held back going anywhere 
 at  Bendigo for a good 20-30mins and all of a sudden I could see a heap of 
flashes to the NE. I got fuelled and fooded up and went up the Midland Hwy 
towards Elmore and then took a turnoff that I&nbsp; knew to Rushworth. By this 
stage the CC lightning was about 1 every 2 secs but they were pulsing about 50 
times (some of them literally) so I drove E along the Rushworth Rd and tried to 
stay on the road while watching this display.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The lightning was that bright and strobing that I 
could have almost turned my lights off and still been able to see the road. 
There were also new cells popping out some nice CGs to my NW at this stage 
(probably between Wycheprrof and Elmore or so). I hadn't taken footage till this 
point cos it wasn't really worth it but once I got clear of the Bendigo anvil 
rain I had the best view and starte dthe old video while you drive thing :D. You 
can imagine my disgust when I saw the battery I had charged died on me cos it 
was ****ed. I got about 5 mins including a 8 pulser CG right down the middle of 
the road on screen. By this time I was on the road  at  Colbinnabin to Rushworth 
and the whole sky was lighting up and I was ringing ppl going off my head lol. 
It wasn't nonstop as such but truly amazing strikes that took up half the sky at 
times. I ended up sitting at a powernap spot just E of E Murchison for about 1 
hr and just droooooooooooling over what I was seeing. I wanted to get closer but 
the rain that I had encountered under every anvil had stuffed up the view so I 
decided to stay back a bit and enjoy the view. At this stage I called the Vic 
BOM severe weather to see what they had on radar etc plus telling them what I 
was seeing (ie a fair bit of green flashes which in my experience means probabe 
hail) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>After a while some new cells formed to the NW and W 
of Murchison&nbsp; and I thought as they are heading SE at about 40kmh I may as 
well go down the NEW Goulburn Valley Fwy and try and sit under a cell or two. It 
was good in etheory but I kept on taking turn offs to look at the sick display 
to my E. In the end I reached Nagambie and called Andy and Kathy&nbsp;(SA 
chasers) just to rub it in (cos the SA ppl ahd their ASWA meeting tonight- not 
that I knew at the time I rang them) to fiond out what was happening. after a 
good 10min phone call which included me holding the phone to the sky and seeing 
if Kathy could hear the thunder and  at  the update they gave me I thought well 
may as well head towards home. I did as such but there were all sorts of 
different storms either starting or trying to start and hence stopping me  at  
getting home hehe. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To cut a long story short  at  that time on, saw 
some occasional flashes in varioous directions but ended up driving back to Melb 
a VERY satisfied man - and even moreso cos my curse is broken (Macca especially 
will be most happy about this after our FDU chase in late Dec- early Jan (FDU = 
F</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>rustration Down Under)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>EXTREME THANKS to Anthony Cornelius (never go 
against his advice I swear - unless you don't rely on phone updates and can do 
it all yourself that is - just hope I have some lightning on tape so I can prove 
it happened) </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>and Kathryn&nbsp;&amp; Andy Wall for 
their updates.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Looking ok tomorrow and active Sunday and Monday 
also </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Chris G ( insanely happy and 450km 
later)<BR></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely ever 
to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; you 
can follow its progress through the links on 
http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains active.  
If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US military 
which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with any 
real storm.
I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics and 
other NH related sites.

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> In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen hemisphere
> at 
> 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72 hours
> show 
> the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
> 
> 
> 
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Way to go Chris!
I ended up following a few things up when i got home  at  work last night..
glad you managed to break your curse lol.

Indeed, never go against AC's word.. he isnt called "Prof" for nothing,
stormchasing with him is an ultimate experience.

Well done mate, and well done all Victorians on this one, what an event.

*Dale*





on 12/04/2003 04:09, Chris G at zosowx at ihug.com.au wrote:

Hi everyone,
 
Those of you who have been around for a while will remmeebr me or know me
(poor souls) but I broke my storm curse tonight so I'd thought I'd relay my
chase :-)
 
After having worked all day couriering and driving through the (Vic)
torrential downpours for 5 hours or so till midday, I was interested about
midday or so to find out what the clearing edge was doing. After a couple of
calls to Anthony Cornelius it was obvious that behind the rainband was
extremely unstable due in part to a cold pool and upper trough over SW Vic.
I managed to finish work around 5pm and got home to have a looksee for
myself (and got asked wtf am I doing home lol). After 30mins or so
deliberation I decided to head NW along the Calder Fwy/Hwy toward Bendigo as
a guy on IRC in Wycheproof had a good storm go through his town and it was
heading SSE. 
 
All the way up to Bendigo I could hear static but couldn't see any lightning
and I thought the curse I have had on storms all season was going to
continue. I drove through about 25km of anvil rain before arriving in
Bendigo, and having seen the odd flash now and then, decided to call Anthony
and find out what was going on as there was a lot of anvil cirrus around so
was a little difficult to see what was going up and what was dying. He told
me that Echuca was going off and I should try to get there if I could. As I
had driven all day for work and was quite "driving" tired I held back going
anywhere  at  Bendigo for a good 20-30mins and all of a sudden I could see a
heap of flashes to the NE. I got fuelled and fooded up and went up the
Midland Hwy towards Elmore and then took a turnoff that I  knew to
Rushworth. By this stage the CC lightning was about 1 every 2 secs but they
were pulsing about 50 times (some of them literally) so I drove E along the
Rushworth Rd and tried to stay on the road while watching this display.
 
The lightning was that bright and strobing that I could have almost turned
my lights off and still been able to see the road. There were also new cells
popping out some nice CGs to my NW at this stage (probably between
Wycheprrof and Elmore or so). I hadn't taken footage till this point cos it
wasn't really worth it but once I got clear of the Bendigo anvil rain I had
the best view and starte dthe old video while you drive thing :D. You can
imagine my disgust when I saw the battery I had charged died on me cos it
was ****ed. I got about 5 mins including a 8 pulser CG right down the middle
of the road on screen. By this time I was on the road  at  Colbinnabin to
Rushworth and the whole sky was lighting up and I was ringing ppl going off
my head lol. It wasn't nonstop as such but truly amazing strikes that took
up half the sky at times. I ended up sitting at a powernap spot just E of E
Murchison for about 1 hr and just droooooooooooling over what I was seeing.
I wanted to get closer but the rain that I had encountered under every anvil
had stuffed up the view so I decided to stay back a bit and enjoy the view.
At this stage I called the Vic BOM severe weather to see what they had on
radar etc plus telling them what I was seeing (ie a fair bit of green
flashes which in my experience means probabe hail)
 
After a while some new cells formed to the NW and W of Murchison  and I
thought as they are heading SE at about 40kmh I may as well go down the NEW
Goulburn Valley Fwy and try and sit under a cell or two. It was good in
etheory but I kept on taking turn offs to look at the sick display to my E.
In the end I reached Nagambie and called Andy and Kathy (SA chasers) just to
rub it in (cos the SA ppl ahd their ASWA meeting tonight- not that I knew at
the time I rang them) to fiond out what was happening. after a good 10min
phone call which included me holding the phone to the sky and seeing if
Kathy could hear the thunder and  at  the update they gave me I thought well
may as well head towards home. I did as such but there were all sorts of
different storms either starting or trying to start and hence stopping me
 at  getting home hehe.
 
To cut a long story short  at  that time on, saw some occasional flashes in
varioous directions but ended up driving back to Melb a VERY satisfied man -
and even moreso cos my curse is broken (Macca especially will be most happy
about this after our FDU chase in late Dec- early Jan (FDU = Frustration
Down Under)
 
EXTREME THANKS to Anthony Cornelius (never go against his advice I swear -
unless you don't rely on phone updates and can do it all yourself that is -
just hope I have some lightning on tape so I can prove it happened) and
Kathryn & Andy Wall for their updates.
 
Looking ok tomorrow and active Sunday and Monday also
 
Chris G ( insanely happy and 450km later)



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Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a centre 
if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it

:)

Michael



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>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
>
>I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
>If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely ever
>to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; you
>can follow its progress through the links on
>http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains active.
>If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US military
>which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with any
>real storm.
>I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics and
>other NH related sites.
>
>Phil
><><
>
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>Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>
> > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen hemisphere
> > at
> > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72 hours
> > show
> > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I have doubled my yearly rainfall here overnight!
Sounds like a big event but I have recorded 27 mm for the year and overnight
another 27 mm fell. Does that qualify for a significant event :-))
Sorry, but big smiles all over town this morning.......... (me included)

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I have been questioned in the past with regards to HTML messages. Am I doing
things right now? I have set to plain text (I hope).
I'm hoping so. Thanks to anyone who replies.
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Bussie...it's all coming through as text emails.

PaulY

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I have been questioned in the past with regards to HTML messages. Am I doing
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I'm hoping so. Thanks to anyone who replies.
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No problems this end.....plain test it is.  :-)

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Whats the Question again you will have explan to me like i'm a 2 year old i 
an a it in computers and the way you saying you neend the softwear to scann 
your mail but if i were you i would not uses it its just a waste of time







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Michael, email can come in two basic formats.. Plain text and html
format.  The plain text is just what it says, text only, no fancy bits.
The html format gives you the same scope as a web page within the email
page.  As such it is likely to carry a virus.  Therefore it is much
better to send plain text messages to groups such as this and to other
list servers.

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Whats the Question again you will have explan to me like i'm a 2 year
old i 
an a it in computers and the way you saying you neend the softwear to
scann 
your mail but if i were you i would not uses it its just a waste of time







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>I have been questioned in the past with regards to HTML messages. Am I
>doing
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>I'm hoping so. Thanks to anyone who replies.
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Subject: aus-wx: New tool for tracking daily rainfall and temps 
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Another new set of pages on Australian Weather News. This is to plug a gap
in available recent weather information. There's no problem in finding out
what happened today or yesterday, and the Bureau's climatic pages are
fantastic for long term stuff, but if you want to know what happened
somewhere a week or a month ago, you can't find it easily on the web.

I've put together a set of pages that allow you to see all the rainfall and
max and min temps for a district for the month to date. These are linked to
a second set that contains all the data for the previous month.

The pages use the same colour-coding scheme that the synoptic obs pages use
to highlight anomalies, so the current Central Australian heatwave shows up
quite nicely! Go to http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/DA1_015.HTM to
check the heatwave, and
http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm for the gateway
page to the current month data. Last month's data is at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataPreviousMonth.cfm, or click the
toggle link on each district page. There's a help page also for the
bewildered.

As always, any ideas for improvement are welcome.

Cheers

Laurier

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Once again, GREAT Stuff!!

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> Another new set of pages on Australian Weather News. This is to plug a gap
> in available recent weather information. There's no problem in finding out
> what happened today or yesterday, and the Bureau's climatic pages are
> fantastic for long term stuff, but if you want to know what happened
> somewhere a week or a month ago, you can't find it easily on the web.
>
> I've put together a set of pages that allow you to see all the rainfall
and
> max and min temps for a district for the month to date. These are linked
to
> a second set that contains all the data for the previous month.
>
> The pages use the same colour-coding scheme that the synoptic obs pages
use
> to highlight anomalies, so the current Central Australian heatwave shows
up
> quite nicely! Go to http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/DA1_015.HTM
to
> check the heatwave, and
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm for the
gateway
> page to the current month data. Last month's data is at
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataPreviousMonth.cfm, or click
the
> toggle link on each district page. There's a help page also for the
> bewildered.
>
> As always, any ideas for improvement are welcome.
>
> Cheers
>
> Laurier
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Hi,

Here is another report  at  the 20th March 2003. This storm showed some 
impressive striations and if you compare closely, it looks like a skeleton 
of the supercell Michael Bath and crew got 10 days later on the north 
coast. The video of rotation has been only sped up 2.5 times normal time.

Classic Supercell with video of rotation

  http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-06.htm

One of the panoramas I created  at  the video stills

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2003/0320jd44.jpg

Enjoy,

Jimmy Deguara

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Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at  
http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether you 
have a different source?
As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of 
latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it then 
appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and 
certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in your 
original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland 
China; is that what you mean?

Phil
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
hemisphere

> 
> 
> 
> Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a
> centre 
> if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> 
> :)
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> >
> >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely
> ever
> >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; you
> >can follow its progress through the links on
> >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> active.
> >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US military
> >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with
> any
> >real storm.
> >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics
> and
> >other NH related sites.
> >
> >Phil
> ><><
> >
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> >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
> >
> > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> hemisphere
> > > at
> > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72
> hours
> > > show
> > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
> > >
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<x-flowed>

The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira is 
the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting to 
think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of 1009 hpa 
i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate there is 
a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone formation 
what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over. i just 
wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the feedback Phill.

Regards
Michael.....





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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
>
>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether you
>have a different source?
>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it then
>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in your
>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
>China; is that what you mean?
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>hemisphere
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a
> > centre
> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > >
> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely
> > ever
> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; you
> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > active.
> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US military
> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with
> > any
> > >real storm.
> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics
> > and
> > >other NH related sites.
> > >
> > >Phil
> > ><><
> > >
> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >
> > >
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looks alrite but is there one for north queensland.






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>Subject: aus-wx: New tool for tracking daily rainfall and temps Date: Sat, 
>12 Apr 2003 14:37:01 -0000
>
>Another new set of pages on Australian Weather News. This is to plug a gap
>in available recent weather information. There's no problem in finding out
>what happened today or yesterday, and the Bureau's climatic pages are
>fantastic for long term stuff, but if you want to know what happened
>somewhere a week or a month ago, you can't find it easily on the web.
>
>I've put together a set of pages that allow you to see all the rainfall and
>max and min temps for a district for the month to date. These are linked to
>a second set that contains all the data for the previous month.
>
>The pages use the same colour-coding scheme that the synoptic obs pages use
>to highlight anomalies, so the current Central Australian heatwave shows up
>quite nicely! Go to http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/DA1_015.HTM to
>check the heatwave, and
>http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm for the 
>gateway
>page to the current month data. Last month's data is at
>http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataPreviousMonth.cfm, or click the
>toggle link on each district page. There's a help page also for the
>bewildered.
>
>As always, any ideas for improvement are welcome.
>
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Michael, just go to the map at
http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm and click on
any of the districts in North Queensland.

Laurier


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>
>
> looks alrite but is there one for north queensland.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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> >To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: aus-wx: New tool for tracking daily rainfall and temps
> Date: Sat,
> >12 Apr 2003 14:37:01 -0000
> >
> >Another new set of pages on Australian Weather News. This is to
> plug a gap
> >in available recent weather information. There's no problem in
> finding out
> >what happened today or yesterday, and the Bureau's climatic pages are
> >fantastic for long term stuff, but if you want to know what happened
> >somewhere a week or a month ago, you can't find it easily on the web.
> >
> >I've put together a set of pages that allow you to see all the
> rainfall and
> >max and min temps for a district for the month to date. These
> are linked to
> >a second set that contains all the data for the previous month.
> >
> >The pages use the same colour-coding scheme that the synoptic
> obs pages use
> >to highlight anomalies, so the current Central Australian
> heatwave shows up
> >quite nicely! Go to
> http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/DA1_015.HTM to
> >check the heatwave, and
> >http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm for the
> >gateway
> >page to the current month data. Last month's data is at
> >http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataPreviousMonth.cfm,
> or click the
> >toggle link on each district page. There's a help page also for the
> >bewildered.
> >
> >As always, any ideas for improvement are welcome.
> >
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> >
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Thats not a bad data system, Bom is really moving on.





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>
>Michael, just go to the map at
>http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm and click on
>any of the districts in North Queensland.
>
>Laurier
>
>
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> >
> > looks alrite but is there one for north queensland.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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> > >Subject: aus-wx: New tool for tracking daily rainfall and temps
> > Date: Sat,
> > >12 Apr 2003 14:37:01 -0000
> > >
> > >Another new set of pages on Australian Weather News. This is to
> > plug a gap
> > >in available recent weather information. There's no problem in
> > finding out
> > >what happened today or yesterday, and the Bureau's climatic pages are
> > >fantastic for long term stuff, but if you want to know what happened
> > >somewhere a week or a month ago, you can't find it easily on the web.
> > >
> > >I've put together a set of pages that allow you to see all the
> > rainfall and
> > >max and min temps for a district for the month to date. These
> > are linked to
> > >a second set that contains all the data for the previous month.
> > >
> > >The pages use the same colour-coding scheme that the synoptic
> > obs pages use
> > >to highlight anomalies, so the current Central Australian
> > heatwave shows up
> > >quite nicely! Go to
> > http://www.australianweathernews.com/pub/DA1_015.HTM to
> > >check the heatwave, and
> > >http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataCurrentMonth.cfm for the
> > >gateway
> > >page to the current month data. Last month's data is at
> > >http://www.australianweathernews.com/daydataPreviousMonth.cfm,
> > or click the
> > >toggle link on each district page. There's a help page also for the
> > >bewildered.
> > >
> > >As always, any ideas for improvement are welcome.
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Laurier
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Hello Everyone

We have a very active storm to our NW. Visable CGs every minute with CCs
every second. I have been watching it approach for over a hour and it has
kept up the same rate of strikes.

This will be our third storm today with the first at midday.
Last night we had a dust storm then just enough rain to settle the dust.

Chas
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Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:46:49 +1000
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G'day Chas, its good to have someone in that general area to give an idea of
whats happening out there. Not an area thats well covered on the list or
Weatherzone. Looks like there may be a couple more cells to come streaming
in  at  your NW as well later.  Tad different to Strahan.     DH

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> Hello Everyone
>
> We have a very active storm to our NW. Visable CGs every minute with CCs
> every second. I have been watching it approach for over a hour and it has
> kept up the same rate of strikes.
>
> This will be our third storm today with the first at midday.
> Last night we had a dust storm then just enough rain to settle the dust.
>
> Chas
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Hi Laurier,

It tool me exactly 5sec to add that link to my favourites.
Thanks Laurier!

John.
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Michael, just go to the map at
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I'm still trying to work out the weather charts it's strange for me because 
i used bom weathercharts the old way.;)





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>
>Hi Laurier,
>
>It tool me exactly 5sec to add that link to my favourites.
>Thanks Laurier!
>
>John.
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>
>
>Michael, just go to the map at
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>
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its at a new URL now
http://www.antarcticanz.govt.nz/weather/SBweather/sbweather.html
Cheers
Brian
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>
> I'm still trying to work out the weather charts it's strange for me
because
> i used bom weathercharts the old way.;)
>
>
>
>
>
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> >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:37:09 +1000
> >
> >Hi Laurier,
> >
> >It tool me exactly 5sec to add that link to my favourites.
> >Thanks Laurier!
> >
> >John.
> > >snip
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> >
> >
> >Michael, just go to the map at
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> 
> Hello Everyone
> 
> We have a very active storm to our NW. Visable CGs every minute with CCs
> every second. I have been watching it approach for over a hour and it has
> kept up the same rate of strikes.
> 
> This will be our third storm today with the first at midday.
> Last night we had a dust storm then just enough rain to settle the dust.
> 
> Chas
> Bedourie (170km north of Birdsville) QLD
> 

Bedourie ended up getting 32mm in the 24 hours to 9 this morning, 
which is only 1mm less than they managed in all of 2002!

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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The sky has cleared and Tamworth has received 40mm of rain in the last 18 hours.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">The official reading (</FONT><A HREF="http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml</FONT></U></A><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">) was only 17.4mm.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I am situated near the hills where we get a little more rain than the official airport weather site.</FONT>
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Thats a good start for the winter rains, starting to come over black sw of 
kelso, we have ne winds witch well bring some showers last this afternoon. 
(Bring on the la nino)






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>
>The sky has cleared and Tamworth has received 40mm of rain in the last
>18 hours.
>
>The official reading
>(http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml) was only
>17.4mm.
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>I am situated near the hills where we get a little more rain than the
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> The sky has cleared and Tamworth has received 40mm of rain in the last
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> 
> The official reading
> (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml) was only
> 17.4mm.
> 
> I am situated near the hills where we get a little more rain than the
> official airport weather site.
> 
> Simon

I think you might have missed that the airport reset at 9 - the 
fligures I've seen show 14.4 up until 9, 17.4 between 9 and 2 and
another 1.2 in the hour  at  2 to 3, for an event total of 33.0. 

Not quite as impressive as Coonabarabran's 122, but still not bad.

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<x-flowed>
way your going you mite brake the drough Lol ;)it will take a lot of rain 
down in the hunter area to break lose.... but its a start






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> > 18 hours.
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> > (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml) was only
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> >
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> >
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>
>I think you might have missed that the airport reset at 9 - the
>fligures I've seen show 14.4 up until 9, 17.4 between 9 and 2 and
>another 1.2 in the hour  at  2 to 3, for an event total of 33.0.
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>Not quite as impressive as Coonabarabran's 122, but still not bad.
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Hi every1,

I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of 
every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today and 
wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I use 
is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the early 
1960s).

My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data set 
due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers 
etc...since the last map?

And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ get 
reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered 
second-hand data?

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Checking out nogaps for the 17 of april shows rain fall of 5mm to 15 mm with 
a high in the right spot for kelso with nouth east winds.


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Yep there is one on the Aswa far as i no but i don't use's it in the 
Tropic's waste of time its been a very poor season for storms this year only 
one severe thunderstom but Se i think has 69 thunder days






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>Hi every1,
>
>I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of 
>every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today and 
>wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I 
>use is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the 
>early 1960s).
>
>My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data set 
>due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers 
>etc...since the last map?
>
>And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ get 
>reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered 
>second-hand data?
>
>Cheers,
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Kevin, the new Bureau one is at
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/tdays.shtml and
there's brief discussion on its development at
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/eiab/reports/ar00-01/conserv.pdf.

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> I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
> every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier
> today and
> wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as
> the one I use
> is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into
> the early
> 1960s).
>
> My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new
> data set
> due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the
> public/spotters/chasers
> etc...since the last map?
>
> And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without
> population/AWS/ get
> reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
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Hello Damien and Blair

Their are a lot of smiling faces around here, it is good to be around for
the best rain event in two and a half years. To see how widespread the rain
was go to
http://www.bom.gov.au/hydro/flood/
a lot of places that missed on the rains  at  the cyclone manage good falls
this time.

Chas
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> G'day Chas, its good to have someone in that general area to give an idea
of
> whats happening out there. Not an area thats well covered on the list or
> Weatherzone. Looks like there may be a couple more cells to come streaming
> in  at  your NW as well later.  Tad different to Strahan.     DH
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> > Hello Everyone
> >
> > We have a very active storm to our NW. Visable CGs every minute with CCs
> > every second. I have been watching it approach for over a hour and it
has
> > kept up the same rate of strikes.
> >
> > This will be our third storm today with the first at midday.
> > Last night we had a dust storm then just enough rain to settle the dust.
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This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many years
ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.

I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder activity
over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only medium
thunder day density, which I know is not correct.

The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map - the
time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite different.

I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.

Michael




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Hi every1,

I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
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due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers
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Hi Michael,

Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to be 
any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles appears 
to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?

I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to 
determine whether *thunder* occurred...

I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning was 
recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible thunder...meaning 
that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the network 
filled with then? Interpolation?

Cheers,
Kevin  at  Wycheproof.






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>
>This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many years
>ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
>complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
>
>I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder activity
>over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only medium
>thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
>
>The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map - the
>time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite different.
>
>I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>Hi every1,
>
>I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
>every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today and
>wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I 
>use
>is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the early
>1960s).
>
>My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data set
>due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers
>etc...since the last map?
>
>And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ get
>reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
>second-hand data?
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
>
>
>
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Gavin

The rain was a blessing, lets hope for some more.

The dams are very low around here.

Copeton Dam 13% Full
   http://waterinfo.dlwc.nsw.gov.au/sr/Copeton.html

Keepit Dam 15% full
   http://waterinfo.dlwc.nsw.gov.au/sr/Keepit.html

Split Rock Dam 17% Full
   http://waterinfo.dlwc.nsw.gov.au/sr/SplitRock.html

Chaffey Dam 40% Full
   http://waterinfo.dlwc.nsw.gov.au/sr/Chaffey.html

Simon

Gavin O'Brien <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com> wrote :

> Hi Simon, We envy you people up that way.We missed all the action ,only 0.8 
> mm here at Gilmore and around a mm at the two ACT AwS sites.We are very much
> 
> in a "green drought" at present.We look like being on stage 2 Water 
> restrictions as our Dams are below 45% capacity . We can only use Googong 
> Dam for water  supply due to pollution of Bendora and Corin Dams with ash 
> and sediment thanks to heavy run off  at  a local severe T storm on the 
> Brindabella Ranges bush fire affected catchment a few weeks ago.It would be 
> a good break for the farmers for preparing for winter and wheat sowing I 
> would think.
> Gavin O'Brien
> Southside Weather Canberra
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > at : "Simon Fearby" &amp;lang=en">simon at fearby.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: &amp;lang=en">aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: aus-wx: 40mm of rain in Tamworth NSW
> >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:08:56 +1000
> >
> >Hello
> >
> >The sky has cleared and Tamworth has received 40mm of rain in the last
> >18 hours.
> >
> >The official reading
> >(http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml)
> was only
> >17.4mm.
> >
> >I am situated near the hills where we get a little more rain than the
> >official airport weather site.
> >
> >Simon
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Hi Simon, We envy you people up that way.We missed all the action ,only 0.8 
mm here at Gilmore and around a mm at the two ACT AwS sites.We are very much 
in a "green drought" at present.We look like being on stage 2 Water 
restrictions as our Dams are below 45% capacity . We can only use Googong 
Dam for water  supply due to pollution of Bendora and Corin Dams with ash 
and sediment thanks to heavy run off  at  a local severe T storm on the 
Brindabella Ranges bush fire affected catchment a few weeks ago.It would be 
a good break for the farmers for preparing for winter and wheat sowing I 
would think.
Gavin O'Brien
Southside Weather Canberra






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>Subject: aus-wx: 40mm of rain in Tamworth NSW
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:08:56 +1000
>
>Hello
>
>The sky has cleared and Tamworth has received 40mm of rain in the last
>18 hours.
>
>The official reading
>(http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml) was only
>17.4mm.
>
>I am situated near the hills where we get a little more rain than the
>official airport weather site.
>
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Phil,
I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have family in  
  North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not crossed 
Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always 
possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at this 
time.
Gavin
Canberra A.C.T.






> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
>
>
>The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira is 
>the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting to 
>think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of 1009 hpa 
>i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate there is 
>a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone formation 
>what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over. i 
>just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the feedback 
>Phill.
>
>Regards
>Michael.....
>
>
>
>
>
>> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
>>
>>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
>>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
>>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether you
>>have a different source?
>>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
>>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it then
>>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
>>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
>>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in your
>>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
>>China; is that what you mean?
>>
>>Phil
>><><
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>>hemisphere
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a
>> > centre
>> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
>> >
>> > :)
>> >
>> > Michael
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
>> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>> > hemisphere
>> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
>> > >
>> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
>> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely
>> > ever
>> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; you
>> > >can follow its progress through the links on
>> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
>> > active.
>> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US military
>> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with
>> > any
>> > >real storm.
>> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics
>> > and
>> > >other NH related sites.
>> > >
>> > >Phil
>> > ><><
>> > >
>> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
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>> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
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>> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
>> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>> > >
>> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
>> > hemisphere
>> > > > at
>> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72
>> > hours
>> > > > show
>> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
>> > > >
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Coldest night this year so far here.
My backyard here between Chatswood West & North Ryde in Sydney's Northern
Suburbs got down to 8.7 degrees last night.
Every where else except here seemed to recieve decent rain yesterday but I
only recorded 9 mm.



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I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on the hourly
update box on the home page of http://www.australianweathernews.com. Roll
your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the current
hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest link for
all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong wind
strength or above

Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!

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its amazing that it even formed an eye so early in the season
its like one in October for the southern hemisphere
Cheers
Brian
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> Phil,
> I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have family
in
>   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
crossed
> Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at this
> time.
> Gavin
> Canberra A.C.T.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
hemisphere
> >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> >
> >
> >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira is
> >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting to
> >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of 1009
hpa
> >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate there
is
> >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone formation
> >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over. i
> >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
feedback
> >Phill.
> >
> >Regards
> >Michael.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
hemisphere
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> >>
> >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether you
> >>have a different source?
> >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it then
> >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in your
> >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> >>China; is that what you mean?
> >>
> >>Phil
> >><><
> >>
> >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> >>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> >>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >>hemisphere
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a
> >> > centre
> >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> >
> >> > Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >> > hemisphere
> >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> >> > >
> >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely
> >> > ever
> >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland;
you
> >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> >> > active.
> >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
military
> >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with
> >> > any
> >> > >real storm.
> >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics
> >> > and
> >> > >other NH related sites.
> >> > >
> >> > >Phil
> >> > ><><
> >> > >
> >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> >> > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
hemisphere
> >> > >
> >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> >> > hemisphere
> >> > > > at
> >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72
> >> > hours
> >> > > > show
> >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd closest
for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when the moon
is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain are
certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be clear in
most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday morning,
meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
cheers
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Hi Phill Thypoon Kujira in the northern hemisphere at this time of year man 
they are starting of erly this year. do you no the hpa on the system would 
be nice to, I wads tracking that system for a week an a bit like brian said 
it dose have an eye could be at least a cat 4 one to watch hey




> at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
>
>Phil,
>I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have family in 
>   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not 
>crossed Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always 
>possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at this 
>time.
>Gavin
>Canberra A.C.T.
>
>
>
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>
>> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
>>
>>
>>The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira is 
>>the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting to 
>>think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of 1009 
>>hpa i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate 
>>there is a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone 
>>formation what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well 
>>over. i just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the 
>>feedback Phill.
>>
>>Regards
>>Michael.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
>>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
>>>hemisphere
>>>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
>>>
>>>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
>>>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
>>>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether you
>>>have a different source?
>>>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
>>>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it then
>>>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
>>>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
>>>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in your
>>>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
>>>China; is that what you mean?
>>>
>>>Phil
>>><><
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>>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
>>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>>>hemisphere
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has a
>>> > centre
>>> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
>>> >
>>> > :)
>>> >
>>> > Michael
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
>>> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>>> > hemisphere
>>> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
>>> > >
>>> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
>>> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is unlikely
>>> > ever
>>> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the Mainland; 
>>>you
>>> > >can follow its progress through the links on
>>> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
>>> > active.
>>> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US 
>>>military
>>> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do with
>>> > any
>>> > >real storm.
>>> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the satpics
>>> > and
>>> > >other NH related sites.
>>> > >
>>> > >Phil
>>> > ><><
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>>> > >
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>>> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
>>> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
>>>hemisphere
>>> > >
>>> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
>>> > hemisphere
>>> > > > at
>>> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in 72
>>> > hours
>>> > > > show
>>> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the mainland.
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The thunderday charts can only be a rough guide at best.
It would be interesting to get a chart published for each year.
Cheers
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Hi Michael,

Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to be
any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles appears
to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?

I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
determine whether *thunder* occurred...

I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning was
recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible thunder...meaning
that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the network
filled with then? Interpolation?

Cheers,
Kevin  at  Wycheproof.






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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
>
>This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many years
>ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
>complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
>
>I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder activity
>over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only medium
>thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
>
>The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map - the
>time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite different.
>
>I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
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>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>
>
>Hi every1,
>
>I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
>every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today and
>wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I
>use
>is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the early
>1960s).
>
>My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data set
>due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers
>etc...since the last map?
>
>And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ get
>reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
>second-hand data?
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
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this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days away
SO!
Cheers
Brian
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> Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd closest
> for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when the
moon
> is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain are
> certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be clear
in
> most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday morning,
> meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> cheers
> Ken Ring
> www.predictweather.com
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> To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
>
>
> > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on the
hourly
> > update box on the home page of http://www.australianweathernews.com.
Roll
> > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the current
> > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest link
for
> > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong wind
> > strength or above
> >
> > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> >
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Another thought on this. Lightning sensors are surely the best way of
determining thunder says.
A sensor can detect a lightning strike within 50 or so metres. The
collection of this data will
eventually provide a good estimation of thunder days.  Problem with the
traditional method is
the thunder day count was often correlated to the diligence and hearing
ability of the observer.
Best records came  at  Meteorological Stations that where  manned 24hours.
Cheers

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...


Hi Michael,

Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to be
any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles appears
to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?

I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
determine whether *thunder* occurred...

I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning was
recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible thunder...meaning
that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the network
filled with then? Interpolation?

Cheers,
Kevin  at  Wycheproof.






> at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
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>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
>
>This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many years
>ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
>complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
>
>I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder activity
>over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only medium
>thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
>
>The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map - the
>time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite different.
>
>I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>
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> at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
>Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>
>
>Hi every1,
>
>I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
>every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today and
>wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I
>use
>is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the early
>1960s).
>
>My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data set
>due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the public/spotters/chasers
>etc...since the last map?
>
>And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ get
>reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
>second-hand data?
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
>
>
>
>
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I have been Tracking it  at  day one as a low so there





> at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 18:03:10 +1200
>
>this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days away
>SO!
>Cheers
>Brian
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> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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>Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd 
>closest
> > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when the
>moon
> > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain are
> > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be clear
>in
> > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday 
>morning,
> > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > cheers
> > Ken Ring
> > www.predictweather.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> >
> >
> > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on the
>hourly
> > > update box on the home page of http://www.australianweathernews.com.
>Roll
> > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the 
>current
> > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest link
>for
> > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong 
>wind
> > > strength or above
> > >
> > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > >
> > > Laurier
> > >
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And one good thing about linging, north queensland Townsville region had the 
history of lighting strikes weather channel did say how many but i cant 
remember the total i will have to e-mail them and i will let you no

Micjhael





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>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:07:32 -0600
>
>Another thought on this. Lightning sensors are surely the best way of
>determining thunder says.
>A sensor can detect a lightning strike within 50 or so metres. The
>collection of this data will
>eventually provide a good estimation of thunder days.  Problem with the
>traditional method is
>the thunder day count was often correlated to the diligence and hearing
>ability of the observer.
>Best records came  at  Meteorological Stations that where  manned 24hours.
>Cheers
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:47 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to be
>any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles 
>appears
>to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?
>
>I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
>determine whether *thunder* occurred...
>
>I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning was
>recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible thunder...meaning
>that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the network
>filled with then? Interpolation?
>
>Cheers,
>Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
> >
> >This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many years
> >ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
> >complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
> >
> >I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder 
>activity
> >over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only 
>medium
> >thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
> >
> >The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map - the
> >time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite 
>different.
> >
> >I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> >
> >
> >Hi every1,
> >
> >I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
> >every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today 
>and
> >wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one I
> >use
> >is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the 
>early
> >1960s).
> >
> >My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data 
>set
> >due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the 
>public/spotters/chasers
> >etc...since the last map?
> >
> >And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/ 
>get
> >reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
> >second-hand data?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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tampa florida gets lots

Cheers
Brian
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>
> And one good thing about linging, north queensland Townsville region had
the
> history of lighting strikes weather channel did say how many but i cant
> remember the total i will have to e-mail them and i will let you no
>
> Micjhael
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:07:32 -0600
> >
> >Another thought on this. Lightning sensors are surely the best way of
> >determining thunder says.
> >A sensor can detect a lightning strike within 50 or so metres. The
> >collection of this data will
> >eventually provide a good estimation of thunder days.  Problem with the
> >traditional method is
> >the thunder day count was often correlated to the diligence and hearing
> >ability of the observer.
> >Best records came  at  Meteorological Stations that where  manned
24hours.
> >Cheers
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:47 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> >
> >
> >Hi Michael,
> >
> >Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to be
> >any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles
> >appears
> >to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?
> >
> >I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
> >determine whether *thunder* occurred...
> >
> >I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning
was
> >recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible
thunder...meaning
> >that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the network
> >filled with then? Interpolation?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
> > >
> > >This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many
years
> > >ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
> > >complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
> > >
> > >I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder
> >activity
> > >over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only
> >medium
> > >thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
> > >
> > >The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map -
the
> > >time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite
> >different.
> > >
> > >I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi every1,
> > >
> > >I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature of
> > >every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier today
> >and
> > >wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the one
I
> > >use
> > >is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the
> >early
> > >1960s).
> > >
> > >My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new data
> >set
> > >due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the
> >public/spotters/chasers
> > >etc...since the last map?
> > >
> > >And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without population/AWS/
> >get
> > >reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
> > >second-hand data?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Most thundery regions of the planet are the humid continental areas. Thunder
hates low humidity
and ocean.
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> tampa florida gets lots
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>
>
> >
> > And one good thing about linging, north queensland Townsville region had
> the
> > history of lighting strikes weather channel did say how many but i cant
> > remember the total i will have to e-mail them and i will let you no
> >
> > Micjhael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:07:32 -0600
> > >
> > >Another thought on this. Lightning sensors are surely the best way of
> > >determining thunder says.
> > >A sensor can detect a lightning strike within 50 or so metres. The
> > >collection of this data will
> > >eventually provide a good estimation of thunder days.  Problem with the
> > >traditional method is
> > >the thunder day count was often correlated to the diligence and hearing
> > >ability of the observer.
> > >Best records came  at  Meteorological Stations that where  manned
> 24hours.
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:47 AM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Michael,
> > >
> > >Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to
be
> > >any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles
> > >appears
> > >to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?
> > >
> > >I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
> > >determine whether *thunder* occurred...
> > >
> > >I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning
> was
> > >recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible
> thunder...meaning
> > >that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the
network
> > >filled with then? Interpolation?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > > >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
> > > >
> > > >This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many
> years
> > > >ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
> > > >complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
> > > >
> > > >I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder
> > >activity
> > > >over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only
> > >medium
> > > >thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
> > > >
> > > >The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map -
> the
> > > >time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite
> > >different.
> > > >
> > > >I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
> > > >
> > > >Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
> > > >Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi every1,
> > > >
> > > >I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature
of
> > > >every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier
today
> > >and
> > > >wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the
one
> I
> > > >use
> > > >is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the
> > >early
> > > >1960s).
> > > >
> > > >My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new
data
> > >set
> > > >due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the
> > >public/spotters/chasers
> > > >etc...since the last map?
> > > >
> > > >And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without
population/AWS/
> > >get
> > > >reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
> > > >second-hand data?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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 at : "Rhett Blanch" <rhettaj at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 21:37:07 +1000
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Hey,
I wonder if Katron or any of the other lightning detection service providers
can provide stats on this.  Say with map which shows the number strikes
across the continent on say a 100x100km grid if you get what I mean.  It
would certainly make and interesting map.  You would think it would be
relatively easy to do??

Regards,
Rhett

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Most thundery regions of the planet are the humid continental areas. Thunder
hates low humidity
and ocean.
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...


> tampa florida gets lots
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
>
>
> >
> > And one good thing about linging, north queensland Townsville region had
> the
> > history of lighting strikes weather channel did say how many but i cant
> > remember the total i will have to e-mail them and i will let you no
> >
> > Micjhael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:07:32 -0600
> > >
> > >Another thought on this. Lightning sensors are surely the best way of
> > >determining thunder says.
> > >A sensor can detect a lightning strike within 50 or so metres. The
> > >collection of this data will
> > >eventually provide a good estimation of thunder days.  Problem with the
> > >traditional method is
> > >the thunder day count was often correlated to the diligence and hearing
> > >ability of the observer.
> > >Best records came  at  Meteorological Stations that where  manned
> 24hours.
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Kevin Phyland" <kjphyland at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 6:47 AM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Michael,
> > >
> > >Yeah, the latest map (courtesy of the BoM and Laurier) doesn't seem to
be
> > >any less complex...for example the 40+ thunderdays way west of Giles
> > >appears
> > >to be based on what? Lightning? Observers? (unlikely) or AWSs?
> > >
> > >I still can't tell whether lightning trackers are considered enough to
> > >determine whether *thunder* occurred...
> > >
> > >I'm reluctant to say that we should go back to the days when lightning
> was
> > >recorded by observers...as that can occur without audible
> thunder...meaning
> > >that it was over, say 15 ks away... but what are the gaps in the
network
> > >filled with then? Interpolation?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > > >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:13:38 +1000
> > > >
> > > >This is an interesting topic Kevin and one I think I discussed many
> years
> > > >ago. If it is the same thunderday map I am familiar with it is rather
> > > >complex, in fact too complex for the period in which it was drawn.
> > > >
> > > >I am also certain that it is not an accurate reflection of thunder
> > >activity
> > > >over the past decade. For example the NW slopes and plains are only
> > >medium
> > > >thunder day density, which I know is not correct.
> > > >
> > > >The anomaly really shows up when you compare it to a lightning map -
> the
> > > >time period of the lightning map is unknown, but they are quite
> > >different.
> > > >
> > > >I think the BOM have a simpler thunderday map now.
> > > >
> > > >Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
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> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 PM
> > > >Subject: aus-wx: Thunderday Maps...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi every1,
> > > >
> > > >I was discussing the *old* thunderday maps that used to be a feature
of
> > > >every Australian Year Book in the Weather section, on IRC earlier
today
> > >and
> > > >wondered if there was an updated data set or map available (as the
one
> I
> > > >use
> > > >is ancient -  at  a 1974 Year Book with a dataset only going into the
> > >early
> > > >1960s).
> > > >
> > > >My query is: Have the number of thunderdays increased using a new
data
> > >set
> > > >due to the increased likelihood of reports  at  the
> > >public/spotters/chasers
> > > >etc...since the last map?
> > > >
> > > >And secondly: Do thunderday reports  at  areas without
population/AWS/
> > >get
> > > >reported  at  lightning trackers now, or is that still considered
> > > >second-hand data?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >Kevin  at  Wycheproof.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 07:54:35 +0800
 at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
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The North West Pacific does not have a "typhoon season" as typhoons 
occur all year round.  Therefore the JTWC, PAGASA and JMA all regard the 
season as equalling the calendar year.  Each season starts on the 1st 
January and ends on 31st December with any tropical cyclones active on 
31st December carrying their previous year's official number and name 
into the new year.
However, having said that, it is true that TCs are far more frequent 
during the Summer months.
Here in Hong Kong our earliest typhoon signals have been in early April 
and our latest in late November.  Most typhoons here hit us between May 
and October.
During the winter months we often experience the "Cuming Effect" when a 
TC crosses the South China Sea towards Vietnam and its cloudbands extend 
over HK giving us a day or two of drizzly rain at a time that normally 
experiences day after day of clear blue skies.

Kujira is now a "Super Typhoon" with winds of 130 knots gusting to 160 
knots.  Its central pressure is 925 hPa.
If it continues its current westward movement long enough, the HKO may 
have to hoist our first typhoon signal for this season on about Monday 
22nd April.

Phil
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-----Original Message-----
 at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 15:54:50 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
hemisphere

> 
> Hi Phill Thypoon Kujira in the northern hemisphere at this time of year
> man 
> they are starting of erly this year. do you no the hpa on the system
> would 
> be nice to, I wads tracking that system for a week an a bit like brian
> said 
> it dose have an eye could be at least a cat 4 one to watch hey
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> >
> >Phil,
> >I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> family in 
> >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not 
> >crossed Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is
> always 
> >possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> this 
> >time.
> >Gavin
> >Canberra A.C.T.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> >>
> >>
> >>The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS
> Kujira is 
> >>the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> to 
> >>think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> 1009 
> >>hpa i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then
> dissipate 
> >>there is a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any
> cyclone 
> >>formation what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is
> well 
> >>over. i just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for
> the 
> >>feedback Phill.
> >>
> >>Regards
> >>Michael.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
> >>>hemisphere
> >>>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> >>>
> >>>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> >>>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> >>>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> you
> >>>have a different source?
> >>>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> >>>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> then
> >>>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> >>>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> >>>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> your
> >>>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> >>>China; is that what you mean?
> >>>
> >>>Phil
> >>><><
> >>>
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> >>>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >>>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> >>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >>>hemisphere
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it
> has a
> >>> > centre
> >>> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> >>> >
> >>> > :)
> >>> >
> >>> > Michael
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >>> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >>> > hemisphere
> >>> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> >>> > >
> >>> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> >>> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> unlikely
> >>> > ever
> >>> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> Mainland; 
> >>>you
> >>> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> >>> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> >>> > active.
> >>> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US 
> >>>military
> >>> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> with
> >>> > any
> >>> > >real storm.
> >>> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> satpics
> >>> > and
> >>> > >other NH related sites.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Phil
> >>> > ><><
> >>> > >
> >>> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> >>> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >-----Original Message-----
> >>> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >>> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> >>> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
> >>>hemisphere
> >>> > >
> >>> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> >>> > hemisphere
> >>> > > > at
> >>> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam
> in 72
> >>> > hours
> >>> > > > show
> >>> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> mainland.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:06:13 +0800
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Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches 
the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average 
them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross 
Luzon.
My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS, 
begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east 
monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any 
typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By 
signal) hoisted here on Monday.

Phil
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-----Original Message-----
 at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
hemisphere

> Phil,
> I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> family in  
>   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> crossed 
> Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always 
> possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> this 
> time.
> Gavin
> Canberra A.C.T.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> >
> >
> >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira
> is 
> >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> to 
> >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> 1009 hpa 
> >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> there is 
> >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> formation 
> >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> i 
> >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> feedback 
> >Phill.
> >
> >Regards
> >Michael.....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> >>
> >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> you
> >>have a different source?
> >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> then
> >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> your
> >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> >>China; is that what you mean?
> >>
> >>Phil
> >><><
> >>
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> >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >>hemisphere
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has
> a
> >> > centre
> >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> >> >
> >> > :)
> >> >
> >> > Michael
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >> > hemisphere
> >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> >> > >
> >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> unlikely
> >> > ever
> >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> Mainland; you
> >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> >> > active.
> >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> military
> >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> with
> >> > any
> >> > >real storm.
> >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> satpics
> >> > and
> >> > >other NH related sites.
> >> > >
> >> > >Phil
> >> > ><><
> >> > >
> >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
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> >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >> > >
> >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> >> > hemisphere
> >> > > > at
> >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in
> 72
> >> > hours
> >> > > > show
> >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> mainland.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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Kujira recurving before it reaches the Philippines at a cat 5 the first big 
typoon for the season you have to put this one down in our record books 
hey...

Michael ;)







> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:06:13 +0800
>
>Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
>the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average
>them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
>Luzon.
>My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
>begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
>monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
>typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By
>signal) hoisted here on Monday.
>
>Phil
><><
>
>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
> at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>hemisphere
>
> > Phil,
> > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > family in
> >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > crossed
> > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> > this
> > time.
> > Gavin
> > Canberra A.C.T.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > >
> > >
> > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira
> > is
> > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> > to
> > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > 1009 hpa
> > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > there is
> > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > formation
> > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> > i
> > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > feedback
> > >Phill.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Michael.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > >>
> > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > you
> > >>have a different source?
> > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > then
> > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > your
> > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > >>
> > >>Phil
> > >><><
> > >>
> > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > >>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > >>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >>hemisphere
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has
> > a
> > >> > centre
> > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> > >> >
> > >> > :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Michael
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > unlikely
> > >> > ever
> > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > Mainland; you
> > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > >> > active.
> > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > military
> > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > with
> > >> > any
> > >> > >real storm.
> > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > satpics
> > >> > and
> > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Phil
> > >> > ><><
> > >> > >
> > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > >> > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > > > at
> > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in
> > 72
> > >> > hours
> > >> > > > show
> > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > mainland.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
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http://ps.gen.nz/~windy/animatedhttpfile.gif

my animated globe image, showing its movement nicely

Cheers
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> Kujira recurving before it reaches the Philippines at a cat 5 the first
big
> typoon for the season you have to put this one down in our record books
> hey...
>
> Michael ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
hemisphere
> >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:06:13 +0800
> >
> >Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
> >the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average
> >them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
> >Luzon.
> >My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
> >begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
> >monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
> >typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By
> >signal) hoisted here on Monday.
> >
> >Phil
> ><><
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >hemisphere
> >
> > > Phil,
> > > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > > family in
> > >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > > crossed
> > > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> > > this
> > > time.
> > > Gavin
> > > Canberra A.C.T.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS
Kujira
> > > is
> > > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> > > to
> > > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > > 1009 hpa
> > > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > > there is
> > > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > > formation
> > > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> > > i
> > > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > > feedback
> > > >Phill.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Michael.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > > >>
> > > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > > you
> > > >>have a different source?
> > > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > > then
> > > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > > your
> > > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > > >>
> > > >>Phil
> > > >><><
> > > >>
> > > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > >>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > >>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > >>hemisphere
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it
has
> > > a
> > > >> > centre
> > > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> > > >> >
> > > >> > :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Michael
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > > unlikely
> > > >> > ever
> > > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > > Mainland; you
> > > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > > >> > active.
> > > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > > military
> > > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > > with
> > > >> > any
> > > >> > >real storm.
> > > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > > satpics
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Phil
> > > >> > ><><
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > >> > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > > > at
> > > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam
in
> > > 72
> > > >> > hours
> > > >> > > > show
> > > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > > mainland.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
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Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons?
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:13:44 +1200
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It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an earlier-than-usual
monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this period. The
season usually goes  at  New moon to full moon, encompassing a northern
declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone?

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<x-flowed>

Who told you that one, they have the same seasons as we do






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>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:13:44 +1200
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>It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an earlier-than-usual
>monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this period. The
>season usually goes  at  New moon to full moon, encompassing a northern
>declination and a perigee. Thoughts, anyone?
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But we don't get monsoons Michael

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>
> Who told you that one, they have the same seasons as we do
>
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>
> > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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> >Subject: aus-wx: Early monsoons?
> >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 19:13:44 +1200
> >
> >It seems that 31st May-14th of June may make for an earlier-than-usual
> >monsoon season in SE Asia, especially towards the end of this period. The
> >season usually goes  at  New moon to full moon, encompassing a northern
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<x-flowed>
Thanks Phil, The latest  at  JTCWC seems to have it moving close to Luzon 
before recurving along a weakness in the upper level ridge just east of 
Luzon .Sounds like a classical recurve is in store so I will resist an email 
to the relatives for another 12 hours. Certainly a powerful system at 
present! I wonder if it will induce an early south west monsoon over Luzon?I 
agree if it crosses Luzon or the Visaysas  it will die as a result of the 
drier inflow of the northeast Monsoon.
Gavin






> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:06:13 +0800
>
>Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
>the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average
>them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
>Luzon.
>My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
>begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
>monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
>typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By
>signal) hoisted here on Monday.
>
>Phil
><><
>
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>
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> at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
>hemisphere
>
> > Phil,
> > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > family in
> >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > crossed
> > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> > this
> > time.
> > Gavin
> > Canberra A.C.T.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > >
> > >
> > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira
> > is
> > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> > to
> > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > 1009 hpa
> > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > there is
> > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > formation
> > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> > i
> > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > feedback
> > >Phill.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Michael.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > >>
> > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > you
> > >>have a different source?
> > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > then
> > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > your
> > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > >>
> > >>Phil
> > >><><
> > >>
> > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >>hemisphere
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has
> > a
> > >> > centre
> > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> > >> >
> > >> > :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Michael
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > unlikely
> > >> > ever
> > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > Mainland; you
> > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > >> > active.
> > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > military
> > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > with
> > >> > any
> > >> > >real storm.
> > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > satpics
> > >> > and
> > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Phil
> > >> > ><><
> > >> > >
> > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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> > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > > > at
> > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in
> > 72
> > >> > hours
> > >> > > > show
> > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
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 at : "Jane ONeill" <cadence at australianskynweather.com>
To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Saharan dust plume over the UK
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:02:29 +1000
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Amazing image of a dust plume over the UK area
http://www.btinternet.com/~wokingham.weather/wwp/ld15-1553-b-uk.JPG
courtesy of the uk.sci.weather list
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?q=uk.sci.weather&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=
en and courtesy of Bernard Burton.

Back home....brief snow on the higher parts of the mainland alpine areas
and the Tasmanian highlands....... roll on anything but fine clear days
thanks!!

Jane

PS: Shawn Smits has been taking some more great sky shots around the
central Victorian region.... http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03.htm

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 at : "Debbie Parker" <debp at rie.net.au>
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This typhoon has been terrorising the Melbourne - Osaka race fleet for the
past few days.
Most of the yachts are well north of Guam, scattered  at  24 north to Osaka
but the rest of the fleet has been stuck at 10 north and are now making
their way east of Guam and are  at  4 north to 12 north. It has been quite a
trying time for them & the race organisers but the situation is looking a
little better now - as long as Kujira doesn't head north too quickly or turn
around.
Hope the north east monsoon snuffs it before it gets near any boats or land.

Debbie

----- Original Message -----
 at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere


> Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
> the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average
> them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
> Luzon.
> My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
> begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
> monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
> typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By
> signal) hoisted here on Monday.
>
> Phil
> <><
>
> International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
>
> > Phil,
> > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > family in
> >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > crossed
> > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> > this
> > time.
> > Gavin
> > Canberra A.C.T.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > >
> > >
> > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS Kujira
> > is
> > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> > to
> > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > 1009 hpa
> > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > there is
> > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > formation
> > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> > i
> > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > feedback
> > >Phill.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Michael.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > >>
> > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > you
> > >>have a different source?
> > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > then
> > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > your
> > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > >>
> > >>Phil
> > >><><
> > >>
> > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >>hemisphere
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it has
> > a
> > >> > centre
> > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> > >> >
> > >> > :)
> > >> >
> > >> > Michael
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > >> > >
> > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > unlikely
> > >> > ever
> > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > Mainland; you
> > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > >> > active.
> > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > military
> > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > with
> > >> > any
> > >> > >real storm.
> > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > satpics
> > >> > and
> > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Phil
> > >> > ><><
> > >> > >
> > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> > >> > hemisphere
> > >> > > > at
> > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam in
> > 72
> > >> > hours
> > >> > > > show
> > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > mainland.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
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Holding any yacht race on or near a lunar perigee, especially the second
greatest for 2003 as this one is, is just asking for trouble. Remember 1998
Sydney to Hobart race, right on perigee and Cyclone Bola? 67 boats turned
back, 6 lives lost.
Ken
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> This typhoon has been terrorising the Melbourne - Osaka race fleet for the
> past few days.
> Most of the yachts are well north of Guam, scattered  at  24 north to
Osaka
> but the rest of the fleet has been stuck at 10 north and are now making
> their way east of Guam and are  at  4 north to 12 north. It has been quite
a
> trying time for them & the race organisers but the situation is looking a
> little better now - as long as Kujira doesn't head north too quickly or
turn
> around.
> Hope the north east monsoon snuffs it before it gets near any boats or
land.
>
> Debbie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>
>
> > Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
> > the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you "average
> > them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
> > Luzon.
> > My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
> > begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
> > monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
> > typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand By
> > signal) hoisted here on Monday.
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> >
> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >  at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > hemisphere
> >
> > > Phil,
> > > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > > family in
> > >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > > crossed
> > > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario at
> > > this
> > > time.
> > > Gavin
> > > Canberra A.C.T.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS
Kujira
> > > is
> > > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm starting
> > > to
> > > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > > 1009 hpa
> > > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > > there is
> > > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > > formation
> > > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well over.
> > > i
> > > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > > feedback
> > > >Phill.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Michael.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > > >>
> > > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > > you
> > > >>have a different source?
> > > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > > then
> > > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > > your
> > > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > > >>
> > > >>Phil
> > > >><><
> > > >>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > >>hemisphere
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it
has
> > > a
> > > >> > centre
> > > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point it
> > > >> >
> > > >> > :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Michael
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > > unlikely
> > > >> > ever
> > > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > > Mainland; you
> > > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it remains
> > > >> > active.
> > > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > > military
> > > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > > with
> > > >> > any
> > > >> > >real storm.
> > > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > > satpics
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Phil
> > > >> > ><><
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > > >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the northen
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > > > at
> > > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam
in
> > > 72
> > > >> > hours
> > > >> > > > show
> > > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > > mainland.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
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> > > >> > > >
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 at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 08:37:33 +1200
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i dont think it was cyclone bola but a bass straight low
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<x-flowed>
Hi all and especially Phil.JTCWC has the Typhoon weakening and following the 
classic  recurvature path east of the Philipines so those ocean racers might 
get another battering!
Gavin
Canberra ACT






> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:44:22 +1200
>
>Holding any yacht race on or near a lunar perigee, especially the second
>greatest for 2003 as this one is, is just asking for trouble. Remember 1998
>Sydney to Hobart race, right on perigee and Cyclone Bola? 67 boats turned
>back, 6 lives lost.
>Ken
>www.predictweather.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Debbie Parker" <debp at rie.net.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:28 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
>
>
> > This typhoon has been terrorising the Melbourne - Osaka race fleet for 
>the
> > past few days.
> > Most of the yachts are well north of Guam, scattered  at  24 north to
>Osaka
> > but the rest of the fleet has been stuck at 10 north and are now making
> > their way east of Guam and are  at  4 north to 12 north. It has been 
>quite
>a
> > trying time for them & the race organisers but the situation is looking 
>a
> > little better now - as long as Kujira doesn't head north too quickly or
>turn
> > around.
> > Hope the north east monsoon snuffs it before it gets near any boats or
>land.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 10:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern 
>hemisphere
> >
> >
> > > Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
> > > the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you 
>"average
> > > them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
> > > Luzon.
> > > My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
> > > begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
> > > monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
> > > typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand 
>By
> > > signal) hoisted here on Monday.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > <><
> > >
> > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > >
> > > > Phil,
> > > > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > > > family in
> > > >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has not
> > > > crossed
> > > > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > > > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario 
>at
> > > > this
> > > > time.
> > > > Gavin
> > > > Canberra A.C.T.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > > hemisphere
> > > > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS
>Kujira
> > > > is
> > > > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm 
>starting
> > > > to
> > > > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > > > 1009 hpa
> > > > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > > > there is
> > > > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > > > formation
> > > > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well 
>over.
> > > > i
> > > > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > > > feedback
> > > > >Phill.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >Michael.....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > > hemisphere
> > > > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > > > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > > > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering whether
> > > > you
> > > > >>have a different source?
> > > > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > > > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but it
> > > > then
> > > > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea and
> > > > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > > > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland" in
> > > > your
> > > > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to mainland
> > > > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Phil
> > > > >><><
> > > > >>
> > > > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > > >>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > > >>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > > >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > > >>hemisphere
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it
>has
> > > > a
> > > > >> > centre
> > > > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point 
>it
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > :)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Michael
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the 
>northern
> > > > >> > hemisphere
> > > > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > > > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > > > unlikely
> > > > >> > ever
> > > > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > > > Mainland; you
> > > > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > > > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it 
>remains
> > > > >> > active.
> > > > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > > > military
> > > > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to do
> > > > with
> > > > >> > any
> > > > >> > >real storm.
> > > > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > > > satpics
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >Phil
> > > > >> > ><><
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > > >> > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > > >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > > >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > > > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > > hemisphere
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the 
>northen
> > > > >> > hemisphere
> > > > >> > > > at
> > > > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south veitnam
>in
> > > > 72
> > > > >> > hours
> > > > >> > > > show
> > > > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > > > mainland.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > >
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 at  Less Crossan in Wallsend (UK):

Some remarkable pictures of this dust clearing the North East of England
(55N 0130W) have been posted up on news://alt.binaries.pictures.weather if
you cannot get that they're also on my website here in time sequence:
  at :
http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/i1spy2863.jpg
to
http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/i1spy2872.jpg

sometimes the low tech approach works this is  at  an old Fujifilm digicam -
the east facing Wallsend StormCam with the polarizing filter got none of it.
I've collected quite a few remarkable events with these cams in the past but
this is strangest of all...

Les

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Subject: aus-wx: Sydney - Hobart 1998 was Topical cyclone formation for the northern hemisphere
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Not Bola.....

"2.1.5. Summary of Surface Synoptic Pattern Developments

In summary, the storm force winds and high seas experienced during the Race
were part of the circulation around a number of very intense mesoscale low
pressure systems, embedded within a parent low system which developed
rapidly over the southeast corner of the continent during the 24 hour period
beginning  at  11pm 26 December. These rapidly developing intense mesoscale
systems within the parent low are a well known phenomenon although the
development of this particular system was slightly unusual in that it
occurred in Bass Strait rather than the more usual location further north
along the East Coast."

excerpted  at  "Preliminary Report on Meteorological Aspects of the 1998
Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race"
http://www.bom.gov.au/inside/services_policy/marine/sydney_hobart/contents.s
html

Jane
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> i dont think it was cyclone bola but a bass straight low
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 07:36:51 +0800
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This morning all of the US military sites are unreachable  at  HK, but 
everybody else now has Kujira recurving before it reaches Luzon.  
Gavin's relatives may get some rain but probably no destructive winds.  
The boat race might meet with more problems later.
Then again, at this time of year, recurvature often results in very 
rapid weakening due to cool SSTs so the boat race people might just get 
rain  at  its remains.
Phil
<><

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:53:03 +1000
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> Thanks Phil, The latest  at  JTCWC seems to have it moving close to
> Luzon 
> before recurving along a weakness in the upper level ridge just east of
> Luzon .Sounds like a classical recurve is in store so I will resist an
> email 
> to the relatives for another 12 hours. Certainly a powerful system at 
> present! I wonder if it will induce an early south west monsoon over
> Luzon?I 
> agree if it crosses Luzon or the Visaysas  it will die as a result of
> the 
> drier inflow of the northeast Monsoon.
> Gavin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> hemisphere
> >Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 08:06:13 +0800
> >
> >Gavin, a couple of the models have Kujira recurving before it reaches
> >the Philippines, but most have it crossing the Visayas.  If you
> "average
> >them out" (not really a valid thing to do, of course) it could cross
> >Luzon.
> >My own educated guess is that it will cross the Visayas into the SCS,
> >begin to recurve towards us, and then be annihilated by the north east
> >monsoon currently blowing here which is more than a match for any
> >typhoon.  We might possibly see Typhoon Signal Number One (the Stand
> By
> >signal) hoisted here on Monday.
> >
> >Phil
> ><><
> >
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> >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
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> >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > at : "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 07:03:55 +1000
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> >hemisphere
> >
> > > Phil,
> > > I am watching this Typhoon closely as it moves westward as I have
> > > family in
> > >   North Western Luzon , Philippines.While a powerful Typhoon has
> not
> > > crossed
> > > Luzon this early in the season for quite  along time , it is always
> > > possible. A track across the Visayas seems the most likely senario
> at
> > > this
> > > time.
> > > Gavin
> > > Canberra A.C.T.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:13:31 +1000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >The nogaps i use's is at the weatherzone lot easyer to uses, TS
> Kujira
> > > is
> > > >the one i'm looking at and it dose sean to dissipate and i'm
> starting
> > > to
> > > >think nw it wont last to long. I also see a low form around png of
> > > 1009 hpa
> > > >i'm expecting that to move west in a couple of days then dissipate
> > > there is
> > > >a weak monsoon later on in the week but i cant see any cyclone
> > > formation
> > > >what so ever, so i think with east coast cyclone season is well
> over.
> > > i
> > > >just wanted to share my foughts on this system and thanks for the
> > > feedback
> > > >Phill.
> > > >
> > > >Regards
> > > >Michael.....
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >>Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 07:07:21 +0800
> > > >>
> > > >>Michael, what URL are you using for your NOGAPS info?
> > > >>I am using the NOGAPS forecasts displayed  at 
> > > >>http://152.80.49.210/PUBLIC/EFS/efs.html but was wondering
> whether
> > > you
> > > >>have a different source?
> > > >>As I check it out, I see TS Kujira following the 10N parallel of
> > > >>latitude and approaching the Philippines in about 120 hours but
> it
> > > then
> > > >>appears to dissipate in the western part of the Philippine Sea
> and
> > > >>certainly does not reach either the South China Sea or Vietnam.
> > > >>Also, I was wanting to check up on what you meant by "mainland"
> in
> > > your
> > > >>original post.  Around here, "mainland" usually refers to
> mainland
> > > >>China; is that what you mean?
> > > >>
> > > >>Phil
> > > >><><
> > > >>
> > > >>International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > >>Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > >>MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > >>Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > >>Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > >>Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:57:21 +1000
> > > >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > >>hemisphere
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Well it's on the nogaps and it is fully devlop as a Typhoon it
> has
> > > a
> > > >> > centre
> > > >> > if you look at 120 hours you can see it. and you can pin point
> it
> > > >> >
> > > >> > :)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Michael
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > at : "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > >> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the
> northern
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 08:54:18 +0800
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >I am not sure what you mean, Michael.
> > > >> > >If you mean Tropical Storm Kujira (02W) {0302}, then it is
> > > unlikely
> > > >> > ever
> > > >> > >to be within thousands of miles of either Vietnam or the
> > > Mainland; you
> > > >> > >can follow its progress through the links on
> > > >> > >http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for as long as it
> remains
> > > >> > active.
> > > >> > >If you mean Typhoon Ready (81W) this is an exercise by the US
> > > military
> > > >> > >which is currently being hosted by JTWC, and has nothing to
> do
> > > with
> > > >> > any
> > > >> > >real storm.
> > > >> > >I cannot see anything else worthy of mention as I scour the
> > > satpics
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > >other NH related sites.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >Phil
> > > >> > ><><
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > >> > >Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > >> > >MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > >> > >Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > >> > >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > >> > >Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >> > > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > >> > >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:34:46 +1000
> > > >> > >Subject: aus-wx: Topical cyclone formation for the northern
> > > hemisphere
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > In 12 hours show a tropical cyclone formation in the
> northen
> > > >> > hemisphere
> > > >> > > > at
> > > >> > > > 10 north the system shows it moves ne towards south
> veitnam in
> > > 72
> > > >> > hours
> > > >> > > > show
> > > >> > > > the system fully develop moving 15 kms/hour towards the
> > > mainland.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
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> 
> Holding any yacht race on or near a lunar perigee, especially the second
> greatest for 2003 as this one is, is just asking for trouble. Remember 1998
> Sydney to Hobart race, right on perigee and Cyclone Bola? 67 boats turned
> back, 6 lives lost.
> Ken
> www.predictweather.com
> 

Cyclone Bola wasn't even in the right decade - it was in 1988 and
caused severe flooding in New Zealand.

As others have pointed out, the 1998 Sydney-Hobart system was non-
tropical.

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 15:36:19 +1000
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Hello Jane

Do you have a reference for why did it happen?

Chas
Bedourie Qld

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>  at  Less Crossan in Wallsend (UK):
>
> Some remarkable pictures of this dust clearing the North East of England
> (55N 0130W) have been posted up on news://alt.binaries.pictures.weather if
> you cannot get that they're also on my website here in time sequence:
>   at :
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> to
> http://www.cc0020209.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/i1spy2872.jpg
>
> sometimes the low tech approach works this is  at  an old Fujifilm
digicam -
> the east facing Wallsend StormCam with the polarizing filter got none of
it.
> I've collected quite a few remarkable events with these cams in the past
but
> this is strangest of all...
>
> Les
>
> Les Crossan,
> Wallsend, Tyne & Wear 55N 01-30W,
> Home of the Wallsend Stormcam - http://www.uksevereweather.org.uk
>
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oops..stand corrected. No, sorry, it wasn't Bola, it was Cora. ..
Jane wrote "part of the circulation around a number of very intense
mesoscale low pressure systems, embedded within a parent low system.."
We-ell, they called it Cora at the time..
Ken

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> >
> > Holding any yacht race on or near a lunar perigee, especially the second
> > greatest for 2003 as this one is, is just asking for trouble. Remember
1998
> > Sydney to Hobart race, right on perigee and Cyclone Bola? 67 boats
turned
> > back, 6 lives lost.
> > Ken
> > www.predictweather.com
> >
>
> Cyclone Bola wasn't even in the right decade - it was in 1988 and
> caused severe flooding in New Zealand.
>
> As others have pointed out, the 1998 Sydney-Hobart system was non-
> tropical.
>
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Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have occurred
exactly at moonset.

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> this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days away
> SO!
> Cheers
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
closest
> > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when the
> moon
> > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain are
> > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be clear
> in
> > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
morning,
> > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > cheers
> > Ken Ring
> > www.predictweather.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> >
> >
> > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on the
> hourly
> > > update box on the home page of http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> Roll
> > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
current
> > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest link
> for
> > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong
wind
> > > strength or above
> > >
> > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > >
> > > Laurier
> > >
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Ken Ring wrote:
> oops..stand corrected. No, sorry, it wasn't Bola, it was Cora. ..
> Jane wrote "part of the circulation around a number of very intense
> mesoscale low pressure systems, embedded within a parent low system.."
> We-ell, they called it Cora at the time..
> Ken
>

Ken,

We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area.

"These rapidly developing intense mesoscale systems within the parent low
are a well known phenomenon although the development of this particular
system was slightly unusual in that it occurred in Bass Strait rather than
the more usual location further north along the East Coast."


Jane
--------------------------------
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Ken

 Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
And there would be no earth quake.????

Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making things
to fit any given situation.

I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And take
it in.
Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed the
line
with the earth quake thing.

Keep posting but keep it real.

Andrew





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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have occurred
> exactly at moonset.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days
away
> > SO!
> > Cheers
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> closest
> > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when the
> > moon
> > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain are
> > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
clear
> > in
> > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> morning,
> > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > cheers
> > > Ken Ring
> > > www.predictweather.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on the
> > hourly
> > > > update box on the home page of http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> > Roll
> > > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
> current
> > > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest
link
> > for
> > > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong
> wind
> > > > strength or above
> > > >
> > > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > > >
> > > > Laurier
> > > >
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yes.....I agree....earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events that
occur every month.....
i.e, how many earthquakes occur when no moon event can be found....i.e, you
need to do a proper scientific control....
just my 2 cents worth.

Cheers
Brian
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> Ken
>
>  Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
> And there would be no earth quake.????
>
> Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
> But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making
things
> to fit any given situation.
>
> I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And take
> it in.
> Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed the
> line
> with the earth quake thing.
>
> Keep posting but keep it real.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have occurred
> > exactly at moonset.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days
> away
> > > SO!
> > > Cheers
> > > Brian
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> > closest
> > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when
the
> > > moon
> > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain
are
> > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
> clear
> > > in
> > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> > morning,
> > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on
the
> > > hourly
> > > > > update box on the home page of
http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> > > Roll
> > > > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
> > current
> > > > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest
> link
> > > for
> > > > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong
> > wind
> > > > > strength or above
> > > > >
> > > > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > > > >
> > > > > Laurier
> > > > >
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I agree with Brian's sentiments. Earth quakes occur daily.
Does the moon cause all earth quakes or just some? If it causes just a
select few, how can you scientifically
make the connection with the moon.
Cheers

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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 1:15 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> yes.....I agree....earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and
at
> least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events
that
> occur every month.....
> i.e, how many earthquakes occur when no moon event can be found....i.e,
you
> need to do a proper scientific control....
> just my 2 cents worth.
>
> Cheers
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Andrew Maben" <amaben at futuregroup.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Ken
> >
> >  Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
> > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >
> > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
> > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making
> things
> > to fit any given situation.
> >
> > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And
take
> > it in.
> > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed
the
> > line
> > with the earth quake thing.
> >
> > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
occurred
> > > exactly at moonset.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >
> > >
> > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2
days
> > away
> > > > SO!
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Brian
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> > > closest
> > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when
> the
> > > > moon
> > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain
> are
> > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
> > clear
> > > > in
> > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> > > morning,
> > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > Ken Ring
> > > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > > > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com"
<aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on
> the
> > > > hourly
> > > > > > update box on the home page of
> http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> > > > Roll
> > > > > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
> > > current
> > > > > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest
> > link
> > > > for
> > > > > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to
strong
> > > wind
> > > > > > strength or above
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Laurier
> > > > > >
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 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 20:53:32 +1200
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Andrew wrote
> you express your self to the point of making things
> to fit any given situation.
Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how many
coincidences does there have to be between high seas/earthquakes/cyclones
and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
correlates with
1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10 years
experience,
4. Typhoon Kujira
5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
6. Gales in some parts of NZ
7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
etc etc

Brian wrote
> earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events
that
> occur every month.
That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per month,
only 8.

Jane wrote
> We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area.
No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot winds and 6m
swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? Surely..

Steven wrote
> Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or just
some?
I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and earthquakes.
Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5. Weather
also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily, not just
events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in water,
land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously we
haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither can we
disprove it.

cheers
Ken

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 at : "Andrew Maben" <amaben at futuregroup.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> Ken
>
>  Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
> And there would be no earth quake.????
>
> Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
> But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making
things
> to fit any given situation.
>
> I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And take
> it in.
> Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed the
> line
> with the earth quake thing.
>
> Keep posting but keep it real.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have occurred
> > exactly at moonset.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 days
> away
> > > SO!
> > > Cheers
> > > Brian
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> > closest
> > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when
the
> > > moon
> > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain
are
> > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
> clear
> > > in
> > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> > morning,
> > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on
the
> > > hourly
> > > > > update box on the home page of
http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> > > Roll
> > > > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
> > current
> > > > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest
> link
> > > for
> > > > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to strong
> > wind
> > > > > strength or above
> > > > >
> > > > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > > > >
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:06:02 +1200
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the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at  the
weather at that time.
i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there



Cheers
Brian
----- Original Message -----
 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> Andrew wrote
> > you express your self to the point of making things
> > to fit any given situation.
> Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how many
> coincidences does there have to be between high seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
> correlates with
> 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10 years
> experience,
> 4. Typhoon Kujira
> 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> etc etc
>
> Brian wrote
> > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events
> that
> > occur every month.
> That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per month,
> only 8.
>
> Jane wrote
> > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area.
> No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
> around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot winds and
6m
> swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? Surely..
>
> Steven wrote
> > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or just
> some?
> I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and earthquakes.
> Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5. Weather
> also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily, not
just
> events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in water,
> land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously we
> haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither can we
> disprove it.
>
> cheers
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Andrew Maben" <amaben at futuregroup.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Ken
> >
> >  Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
> > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >
> > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
> > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making
> things
> > to fit any given situation.
> >
> > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And
take
> > it in.
> > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed
the
> > line
> > with the earth quake thing.
> >
> > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
occurred
> > > exactly at moonset.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >
> > >
> > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2
days
> > away
> > > > SO!
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Brian
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> > > closest
> > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when
> the
> > > > moon
> > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain
> are
> > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
> > clear
> > > > in
> > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> > > morning,
> > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > Ken Ring
> > > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >  at : "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
> > > > > To: "Aussie-Weather at World. Std. Com"
<aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > > Subject: aus-wx: More rainfall and wind watchers tools
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've added rollover links to the wettest and windiest places on
> the
> > > > hourly
> > > > > > update box on the home page of
> http://www.australianweathernews.com.
> > > > Roll
> > > > > > your mouse over the wettest link, and you get a full list of the
> > > current
> > > > > > hour's rainfall and all totals since 9am. Roll over the windiest
> > link
> > > > for
> > > > > > all automatic weather stations currently reporting gusts to
strong
> > > wind
> > > > > > strength or above
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happily, there's some wind about at the moment to look at!
> > > > > >
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
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> Jane wrote
> > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area.
> No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
> around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot winds and
6m
> swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? Surely..


This part is pure Garbage Ken

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 at : "Jane ONeill" <cadence at australianskynweather.com>
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Ken, you wrote......

"oops..stand corrected. No, sorry, it wasn't Bola, it was Cora. ..
Jane wrote "part of the circulation around a number of very intense
mesoscale low pressure systems, embedded within a parent low system.."
We-ell, they called it Cora at the time.."

No-one else called it Cora - as you wrote...... "We-ell, they called it
Cora at the time"  because TC Cora was half a world away on the other
side of the International Date Line and had nothing to do with a low
forming in the Bass Strait area.

Jane

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.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to see
!!!!

I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still - because
of my interest in weather and the earth's environment.  I appreciate Ken's
statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased, but
just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's philosophies, it
shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions down and
call them rubbish.  I often wonder when people will learn the ability to get
along and not always argue and degrade others.

I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as well,
I'm sure, as other times in history.  Time and again the people were given
signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late !  Right now
the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more large
earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.  Those who
don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought patterns
speak of *coincidences*.  But I don't believe there are any coincidences
....... everything has a reason.  As far as I understand, nobody can ever
have all the knowledge there is to have.  Delving into the unknown is an
important aspect of science.  It is so dreary to continually listen to the
rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply into
aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!

Love
Sha

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at  the
weather at that time.
i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there



Cheers
Brian
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> Andrew wrote
> > you express your self to the point of making things
> > to fit any given situation.
> Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how many
> coincidences does there have to be between high seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
> correlates with
> 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10 years
> experience,
> 4. Typhoon Kujira
> 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> etc etc
>
> Brian wrote
> > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events
> that
> > occur every month.
> That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per month,
> only 8.
>
> Jane wrote
> > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area.
> No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
> around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot winds and
6m
> swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? Surely..
>
> Steven wrote
> > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or just
> some?
> I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and earthquakes.
> Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5. Weather
> also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily, not
just
> events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in water,
> land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously we
> haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither can we
> disprove it.
>
> cheers
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Andrew Maben" <amaben at futuregroup.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>
>
> > Ken
> >
> >  Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure.
> > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >
> > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
> > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making
> things
> > to fit any given situation.
> >
> > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And
take
> > it in.
> > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed
the
> > line
> > with the earth quake thing.
> >
> > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >
> >
> > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
occurred
> > > exactly at moonset.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Brian Hamilton" <windy at ps.gen.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >
> > >
> > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2
days
> > away
> > > > SO!
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Brian
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd
> > > closest
> > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on
> > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when
> the
> > > > moon
> > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain
> are
> > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be
> > clear
> > > > in
> > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday
> > > morning,
> > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > Ken Ring
> > > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > > >



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I guess you *accidentally* sent this to my private email Robert, rather than
to the list.

I must say, these mannerisms are not a "fact of life!!!! " as far as I am
concerned - not mine anyway.  It is not an example of behaviour that I find
satisfactory.

Love
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> just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's philosophies,
it
> shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions down
and
> call them rubbish....

Get used to it buddy....it's a fact of life!!!!  The simple solution is,
if you don't like it, then keep quiet, otherwise, learn to take it on the
chin!!


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All I am saying is keep your eyes open during non full moon times....
all these things happen then to, if you want to go and look for them/
thats the point i am making
Cheers
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<P>Sha</P>
<P>I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.&nbsp; And when&nbsp;Ken gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people&nbsp;who believe that the truth is still important,&nbsp;to correct him.</P>
<P>Having read this latest&nbsp;farrago of speculation&nbsp; at  Ken, I am now&nbsp;totally convinced that he's in&nbsp;cahoots with&nbsp;the former Iraqi information Minister.</P>
<P>Such a range of Moon events!&nbsp; (6 - 8 per month according the Weather information Minister)</P>
<P>Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence such a range of phenomena!&nbsp; (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will crush these stupid criminal Americans!")</P>
<P>And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs - memories!).</P>
<P>And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM, he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister into the Iraqi desert.</P>
<P>With respect, but not love</P>
<P>Michael<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Sha" <BILBY at CYBERONE.COM.AU>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to see 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;!!!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still - because 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate Ken's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased, but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's philosophies, it 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions down and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to get 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;along and not always argue and degrade others. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as well, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were given 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right now 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more large 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those who 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought patterns 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can ever 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply into 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Love 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sha 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Brian Hamilton" <WINDY at PS.GEN.NZ>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at  the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;weather at that time. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Brian 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Andrew wrote 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; you express your self to the point of making things 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; to fit any given situation. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how many 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; coincidences does there have to be between high seas/earthquakes/cyclones 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; correlates with 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 2. Two big earthquakes &gt;6mag in China, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10 years 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; experience, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 4. Typhoon Kujira 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 6. Gales in some parts of NZ 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; etc etc 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Brian wrote 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon events 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; occur every month. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per month, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; only 8. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Jane wrote 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the area. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot winds and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;6m 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? Surely.. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Steven wrote 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or just 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; some? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and earthquakes. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5. Weather 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily, not 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;just 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in water, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously we 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither can we 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; disprove it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Ken 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;  at : "Andrew Maben" <AMABEN at FUTUREGROUP.COM.AU>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Ken 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the pressure. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; And there would be no earth quake.???? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of making 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; things 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; to fit any given situation. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. And 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;take 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; it in. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have crossed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; line 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; with the earth quake thing. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Keep posting but keep it real. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Andrew 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;occurred 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; exactly at moonset. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Brian Hamilton" <WINDY at PS.GEN.NZ>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 2 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;days 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; away 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; SO! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Brian 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. Perigee (2nd 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; closest 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar equinox on 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper high when 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; moon 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and rain 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; are 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon to be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; clear 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on Thursday 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; morning, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cheers 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ken Ring 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; www.predictweather.com 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:13:27 +1200
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It is very difficult to have a scientific discussion with people who ignore
actual evidence. I'm talking about LARGE earthquakes, and I receive
authoritative up-to-the-minute info about them  at 
sipkin at gldmutt.cr.usgs.gov every day. I assume anyone discussing this
subject also has access to the same information. Otherwise..what?..are they
just spouting into thin air..?
 at  Simon Sipkin's site let's look at ALL the recorded ABOVE-6 mag events
in the world in recent days.
Yesterday and today there have been 3 above 6 mag events, in China(6.6, 6.2)
and Bouvet Island(6.0). Going back..
there were two on 11th/12th south of Panama(6.1, northern declination),
then..
one on the 3rd at Northern MidAtlantic Ridge(6.1, new moon/apogee), then..
two on 31st at Seram Indonesia and 4 at P.N.G(6.2, lunar equinox to new
moon/apogee). Then none going back to Flores Region, Indonesia when there
was one on 26th(6.3, southern declination). There have been NO other above-6
events ANYWHERE except those in the last fortnight, but I assure you all
that that is the permanent pattern. Look for yourself.
So what can that tell us? Even a child could see that the largest
earthquakes only occur at significant moon event times, being new/full
moons, perigee/apogees, and NDs/SDs/equator crossings. That is not every
day.
cheers
Ken


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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects


> All I am saying is keep your eyes open during non full moon times....
> all these things happen then to, if you want to go and look for them/
> thats the point i am making
> Cheers
> Brian
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;<FONT size=3>And given the chance to pit his 
techniques against someone  at  the BoM, he disappears  at  the 
competition.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3>I explained why at the time. The other 
party has his wages paid for by the Australian&nbsp;taxpayer. I don't.&nbsp;The 
considerable time it would take me to do the comparison properly would come out 
of my own pocket but not his. That makes for an unequal competition. I would be 
most happy to take part if you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages.&nbsp;But I 
bet you will&nbsp;disappear  at  that&nbsp;request&nbsp;quicker than the 
Minister into the Iraqi desert..</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B> at :</B> 
  <A title=mskikey at hotmail.com href="mailto:mskikey at hotmail.com">michael 
  king</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi 
  Minister for (weather) Information?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P>Sha</P>
  <P>I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken 
  ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.&nbsp; And 
  when&nbsp;Ken gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people&nbsp;who 
  believe that the truth is still important,&nbsp;to correct him.</P>
  <P>Having read this latest&nbsp;farrago of speculation&nbsp; at  Ken, I am 
  now&nbsp;totally convinced that he's in&nbsp;cahoots with&nbsp;the former 
  Iraqi information Minister.</P>
  <P>Such a range of Moon events!&nbsp; (6 - 8 per month according the Weather 
  information Minister)</P>
  <P>Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence such 
  a range of phenomena!&nbsp; (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will 
  crush these stupid criminal Americans!")</P>
  <P>And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still remember 
  the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs - 
  memories!).</P>
  <P>And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM, he 
  disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister into 
  the Iraqi desert.</P>
  <P>With respect, but not love</P>
  <P>Michael<BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Sha" <BILBY at CYBERONE.COM.AU>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't 
  want to see 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;!!!! 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail 
  still - because 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I 
  appreciate Ken's 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am 
  biased, but 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's 
  philosophies, it 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's 
  opinions down and 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the 
  ability to get 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;along and not always argue and degrade others. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's 
  time, as well, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people 
  were given 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! 
  Right now 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are 
  many more large 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, 
  etc. Those who 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own 
  thought patterns 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any 
  coincidences 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody 
  can ever 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the 
  unknown is an 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually 
  listen to the 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more 
  deeply into 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !! 

  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Love 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sha 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Brian Hamilton" <WINDY at PS.GEN.NZ>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and 
  SW of 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, 
  not  at  the 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;weather at that time. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has 
  passed/peaked. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of 
  injuries 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck 
  they get 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Cheers 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Brian 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Andrew wrote 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; you express your self to the point of making things 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; to fit any given situation. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The 
  question is, how many 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; coincidences does there have to be between high 
  seas/earthquakes/cyclones 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; and perigees before some notice is taken? This current 
  April perigee 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; correlates with 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 2. Two big earthquakes &gt;6mag in China, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a 
  pilot with 10 years 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; experience, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 4. Typhoon Kujira 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 6. Gales in some parts of NZ 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; etc etc 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Brian wrote 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, 
  and at 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 
  or so moon events 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; that 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; occur every month. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon 
  events per month, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; only 8. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Jane wrote 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere 
  near the area. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 
  28/29th. Cora was 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 
  60knot winds and 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;6m 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible 
  connection? Surely.. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Steven wrote 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all 
  earth quakes or just 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; some? 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather 
  and earthquakes. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over 
  mag 5. Weather 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to 
  be daily, not 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;just 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - 
  daily, in water, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but 
  obviously we 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of 
  it. Neither can we 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; disprove it. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; cheers 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Ken 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;  at : "Andrew Maben" <AMABEN at FUTUREGROUP.COM.AU>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Ken 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to 
  relieve the pressure. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; And there would be no earth quake.???? 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon. 

  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; I think that the moon has influence on our planet 
  and its weather. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; But I personal feel that you express your self to 
  the point of making 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; things 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; to fit any given situation. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all 
  you e-mails. And 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;take 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; it in. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that 
  you have crossed 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; line 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; with the earth quake thing. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Keep posting but keep it real. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Andrew 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 
  mag. Seems to have 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;occurred 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; exactly at moonset. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Brian Hamilton" <WINDY at PS.GEN.NZ>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; this TC has been around for a few days, 
  and full moon is still 2 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;days 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; away 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; SO! 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cheers 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Brian 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;  at : "Ken Ring" <KEN at WEATHERMAN.CO.NZ>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: <AUSSIE-WEATHER at WORLD.STD.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Well, the moon is at a significant 
  position just now. Perigee (2nd 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; closest 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for 2003)and full moon together on 
  Thursday, plus lunar equinox on 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Wednesday. The airtide will be at a 
  significantly deeper high when 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; the 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; moon 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; is in the sky and at deeper low when 
  it is absent. Winds and rain 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; are 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; certainly to be expected, especially 
  around moonrise. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; As usual though, I would expect the 
  evening of the full moon to be 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; clear 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; in 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; most areas. For down here, full moon 
  occurs at 7.34am on Thursday 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; morning, 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; meaning the 16th is the closest 
  evening to it. 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; cheers 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Ken Ring 
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; www.predictweather.com 
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The condition change on wednesday with the upper trough pushing in  at  the 
west reciving 3mm in kelso but Townsville got most of the heavy rains  at  
the upper trough.

I will no in two weeks when the season will turn in to a weak la nino with 
the birds starting to move north to png for migrating. this counts for the 
condition to change into a weak la nino and looking at nature and weather it 
always works.




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Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father 
dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)






> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>
>
> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM, 
>he disappears  at  the competition.
>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by the 
>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to do 
>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That 
>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if 
>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear 
> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>   ----- Original Message -----
>    at : michael king
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
>   Sha
>
>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken 
>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken 
>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the truth 
>is still important, to correct him.
>
>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now 
>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information 
>Minister.
>
>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather 
>information Minister)
>
>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence 
>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will 
>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>
>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still 
>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs - 
>memories!).
>
>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM, 
>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister 
>into the Iraqi desert.
>
>   With respect, but not love
>
>   Michael
>
>
>
>   > at : "Sha"
>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   >To:
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>   >
>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to 
>see
>   >!!!!
>   >
>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still - 
>because
>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate 
>Ken's
>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased, 
>but
>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's 
>philosophies, it
>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions 
>down and
>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to 
>get
>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>   >
>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as 
>well,
>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were 
>given
>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right 
>now
>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more 
>large
>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those 
>who
>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought 
>patterns
>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences
>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can 
>ever
>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an
>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to 
>the
>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply 
>into
>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>   >
>   >Love
>   >Sha
>   >
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at  
>the
>   >weather at that time.
>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Cheers
>   >Brian
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   > > Andrew wrote
>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how 
>many
>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high 
>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
>   > > correlates with
>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10 
>years
>   > > experience,
>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>   > > etc etc
>   > >
>   > > Brian wrote
>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon 
>events
>   > > that
>   > > > occur every month.
>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per 
>month,
>   > > only 8.
>   > >
>   > > Jane wrote
>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the 
>area.
>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot 
>winds and
>   >6m
>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection? 
>Surely..
>   > >
>   > > Steven wrote
>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or 
>just
>   > > some?
>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and 
>earthquakes.
>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5. 
>Weather
>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily, 
>not
>   >just
>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in 
>water,
>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously 
>we
>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither 
>can we
>   > > disprove it.
>   > >
>   > > cheers
>   > > Ken
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>   > > To:
>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > > Ken
>   > > >
>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the 
>pressure.
>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>   > > >
>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of 
>making
>   > > things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > >
>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails. 
>And
>   >take
>   > > > it in.
>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have 
>crossed
>   >the
>   > > > line
>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>   > > >
>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>   > > >
>   > > > Andrew
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > To:
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
>   >occurred
>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   > > > > To:
>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still 
>2
>   >days
>   > > > away
>   > > > > > SO!
>   > > > > > Cheers
>   > > > > > Brian
>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > > > To:
>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now. 
>Perigee (2nd
>   > > > > closest
>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar 
>equinox on
>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper 
>high when
>   > > the
>   > > > > > moon
>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and 
>rain
>   > > are
>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon 
>to be
>   > > > clear
>   > > > > > in
>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on 
>Thursday
>   > > > > morning,
>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>   > > > > > > cheers
>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>   > > > > > >
>   >
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 at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was  Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 21:24:27 -0400
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Hey All,

I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally agree
with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his theories,
without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with others,
am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and not
personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister is
just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!

PaulY

-----Original Message-----
 at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
Wright
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?



Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)






> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>
>
> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition.
>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by the
>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to do
>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>   ----- Original Message -----
>    at : michael king
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
>   Sha
>
>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken
>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the truth
>is still important, to correct him.
>
>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
>Minister.
>
>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
>information Minister)
>
>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will
>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>
>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
>memories!).
>
>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister
>into the Iraqi desert.
>
>   With respect, but not love
>
>   Michael
>
>
>
>   > at : "Sha"
>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   >To:
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>   >
>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
>see
>   >!!!!
>   >
>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
>because
>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
>Ken's
>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased,
>but
>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
>philosophies, it
>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
>down and
>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to
>get
>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>   >
>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
>well,
>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
>given
>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
>now
>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
>large
>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those
>who
>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
>patterns
>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences
>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
>ever
>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an
>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
>the
>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply
>into
>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>   >
>   >Love
>   >Sha
>   >
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at 
>the
>   >weather at that time.
>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Cheers
>   >Brian
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   > > Andrew wrote
>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
>many
>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
>   > > correlates with
>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10
>years
>   > > experience,
>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>   > > etc etc
>   > >
>   > > Brian wrote
>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
>events
>   > > that
>   > > > occur every month.
>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per
>month,
>   > > only 8.
>   > >
>   > > Jane wrote
>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
>area.
>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
>winds and
>   >6m
>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
>Surely..
>   > >
>   > > Steven wrote
>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
>just
>   > > some?
>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
>earthquakes.
>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
>Weather
>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily,
>not
>   >just
>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
>water,
>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
>we
>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither
>can we
>   > > disprove it.
>   > >
>   > > cheers
>   > > Ken
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>   > > To:
>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > > Ken
>   > > >
>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
>pressure.
>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>   > > >
>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
>making
>   > > things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > >
>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails.
>And
>   >take
>   > > > it in.
>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
>crossed
>   >the
>   > > > line
>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>   > > >
>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>   > > >
>   > > > Andrew
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > To:
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
>   >occurred
>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   > > > > To:
>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still
>2
>   >days
>   > > > away
>   > > > > > SO!
>   > > > > > Cheers
>   > > > > > Brian
>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > > > To:
>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
>Perigee (2nd
>   > > > > closest
>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
>equinox on
>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
>high when
>   > > the
>   > > > > > moon
>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and
>rain
>   > > are
>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon
>to be
>   > > > clear
>   > > > > > in
>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
>Thursday
>   > > > > morning,
>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>   > > > > > > cheers
>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>   > > > > > >
>   >
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 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:48:24 +1200
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Huh?? You brought it up mate. Make up your mind, Michael..

>.. he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
Minister into the > Iraqi desert....Could please don't talk about the war, i
don't want to here and my father
> dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)


----- Original Message -----
 at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?


>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> >
> >
> > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >he disappears  at  the competition.
> >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
the
> >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
do
> >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
> >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
> >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >    at : michael king
> >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >
> >
> >   Sha
> >
> >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
Ken
> >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
> >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
truth
> >is still important, to correct him.
> >
> >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
> >Minister.
> >
> >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
> >information Minister)
> >
> >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
> >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
will
> >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> >
> >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
> >memories!).
> >
> >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
Minister
> >into the Iraqi desert.
> >
> >   With respect, but not love
> >
> >   Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >   > at : "Sha"
> >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >   >To:
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> >   >
> >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
> >see
> >   >!!!!
> >   >
> >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
> >because
> >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
> >Ken's
> >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
biased,
> >but
> >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> >philosophies, it
> >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
> >down and
> >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability
to
> >get
> >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> >   >
> >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
> >well,
> >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
> >given
> >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
> >now
> >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
> >large
> >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
Those
> >who
> >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> >patterns
> >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
coincidences
> >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
> >ever
> >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is
an
> >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
> >the
> >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
deeply
> >into
> >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> >   >
> >   >Love
> >   >Sha
> >   >
> >   >----- Original Message -----
> >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >   >To:
> >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
> >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
 at 
> >the
> >   >weather at that time.
> >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
> >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
get
> >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >Cheers
> >   >Brian
> >   >----- Original Message -----
> >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> >   >To:
> >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > > Andrew wrote
> >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
> >many
> >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
perigee
> >   > > correlates with
> >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with
10
> >years
> >   > > experience,
> >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> >   > > etc etc
> >   > >
> >   > > Brian wrote
> >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
> >events
> >   > > that
> >   > > > occur every month.
> >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
per
> >month,
> >   > > only 8.
> >   > >
> >   > > Jane wrote
> >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
> >area.
> >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
was
> >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
> >winds and
> >   >6m
> >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
> >Surely..
> >   > >
> >   > > Steven wrote
> >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
> >just
> >   > > some?
> >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> >earthquakes.
> >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
> >Weather
> >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
daily,
> >not
> >   >just
> >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
> >water,
> >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
> >we
> >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
Neither
> >can we
> >   > > disprove it.
> >   > >
> >   > > cheers
> >   > > Ken
> >   > >
> >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> >   > > To:
> >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > > Ken
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> >pressure.
> >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
weather.
> >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
> >making
> >   > > things
> >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
e-mails.
> >And
> >   >take
> >   > > > it in.
> >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
> >crossed
> >   >the
> >   > > > line
> >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Andrew
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >   > > > To:
> >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
> >   >occurred
> >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >   > > > > To:
> >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
still
> >2
> >   >days
> >   > > > away
> >   > > > > > SO!
> >   > > > > > Cheers
> >   > > > > > Brian
> >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >   > > > > > To:
> >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> >Perigee (2nd
> >   > > > > closest
> >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
> >equinox on
> >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
> >high when
> >   > > the
> >   > > > > > moon
> >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
and
> >rain
> >   > > are
> >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
moon
> >to be
> >   > > > clear
> >   > > > > > in
> >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
> >Thursday
> >   > > > > morning,
> >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> >   > > > > > > cheers
> >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
> >   > > > > > >
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 at : "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: birds and weather
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La Nina's a long way off, Michael.
----- Original Message -----
 at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: aus-wx: birds and weather


>
>
> The condition change on wednesday with the upper trough pushing in  at 
the
> west reciving 3mm in kelso but Townsville got most of the heavy rains  at 
> the upper trough.
>
> I will no in two weeks when the season will turn in to a weak la nino with
> the birds starting to move north to png for migrating. this counts for the
> condition to change into a weak la nino and looking at nature and weather
it
> always works.
>
>
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 at : "Nathan Thompson" <pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was  Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?)
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Hi,

I will have to agreed with Paul, everyone please make attention and listen
to me: This is not a aus-wx forum place for argueing, fighting like a war at
each other. This is a weather topic that we email an interest of weather
like when, what, where, whats happening in the past or at the present. I
will not be tolerated with anyone who glued to argue with Ken Ring like
that. I rather think it would be better off for you to chill off and leave
him alone on aus-wx, then problem will go away. It is up to him what he want
to do in forecast as in moon. And else of us are up to us to use model
forecast or BoM forecast. But it would be good to be with moon forecast to
judge with. BUT! Please don't argue about it. If you want to, then take a
private message then. Not in this whole main aus-wx email group. I am sure
Jacob will fix it up soon. Anyway. I better sign off the email and back to
relax for public holiday today and be happy.

I hope I appreciated your way to listen to us me and Paul and Jacob. Anyway.
Happy Easter everyone by the way.
 at  Nathan.

----- Original Message -----
 at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
(weather) Information?)


Hey All,

I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally agree
with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his theories,
without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with others,
am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and not
personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister is
just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!

PaulY

-----Original Message-----
 at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
Wright
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?



Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)






> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>
>
> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition.
>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by the
>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to do
>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>   ----- Original Message -----
>    at : michael king
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
>   Sha
>
>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken
>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the truth
>is still important, to correct him.
>
>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
>Minister.
>
>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
>information Minister)
>
>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will
>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>
>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
>memories!).
>
>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister
>into the Iraqi desert.
>
>   With respect, but not love
>
>   Michael
>
>
>
>   > at : "Sha"
>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   >To:
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>   >
>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
>see
>   >!!!!
>   >
>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
>because
>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
>Ken's
>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased,
>but
>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
>philosophies, it
>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
>down and
>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to
>get
>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>   >
>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
>well,
>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
>given
>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
>now
>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
>large
>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those
>who
>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
>patterns
>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences
>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
>ever
>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an
>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
>the
>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply
>into
>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>   >
>   >Love
>   >Sha
>   >
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at 
>the
>   >weather at that time.
>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Cheers
>   >Brian
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   > > Andrew wrote
>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
>many
>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
>   > > correlates with
>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10
>years
>   > > experience,
>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>   > > etc etc
>   > >
>   > > Brian wrote
>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
>events
>   > > that
>   > > > occur every month.
>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per
>month,
>   > > only 8.
>   > >
>   > > Jane wrote
>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
>area.
>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
>winds and
>   >6m
>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
>Surely..
>   > >
>   > > Steven wrote
>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
>just
>   > > some?
>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
>earthquakes.
>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
>Weather
>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily,
>not
>   >just
>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
>water,
>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
>we
>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither
>can we
>   > > disprove it.
>   > >
>   > > cheers
>   > > Ken
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>   > > To:
>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > > Ken
>   > > >
>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
>pressure.
>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>   > > >
>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
>making
>   > > things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > >
>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails.
>And
>   >take
>   > > > it in.
>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
>crossed
>   >the
>   > > > line
>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>   > > >
>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>   > > >
>   > > > Andrew
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > To:
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
>   >occurred
>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   > > > > To:
>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still
>2
>   >days
>   > > > away
>   > > > > > SO!
>   > > > > > Cheers
>   > > > > > Brian
>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > > > To:
>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
>Perigee (2nd
>   > > > > closest
>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
>equinox on
>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
>high when
>   > > the
>   > > > > > moon
>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and
>rain
>   > > are
>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon
>to be
>   > > > clear
>   > > > > > in
>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
>Thursday
>   > > > > morning,
>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>   > > > > > > cheers
>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>   > > > > > >
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Yes, we have gone through this topic again and again. Lets stop it before
it gets out of hand once again. Earthquakes are not fully on topic, and the
moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.

Jacob and Dave (List owners)



At 12:07 PM 18/04/2003 +0930, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I will have to agreed with Paul, everyone please make attention and listen
>to me: This is not a aus-wx forum place for argueing, fighting like a war at
>each other. This is a weather topic that we email an interest of weather
>like when, what, where, whats happening in the past or at the present. I
>will not be tolerated with anyone who glued to argue with Ken Ring like
>that. I rather think it would be better off for you to chill off and leave
>him alone on aus-wx, then problem will go away. It is up to him what he want
>to do in forecast as in moon. And else of us are up to us to use model
>forecast or BoM forecast. But it would be good to be with moon forecast to
>judge with. BUT! Please don't argue about it. If you want to, then take a
>private message then. Not in this whole main aus-wx email group. I am sure
>Jacob will fix it up soon. Anyway. I better sign off the email and back to
>relax for public holiday today and be happy.
>
>I hope I appreciated your way to listen to us me and Paul and Jacob. Anyway.
>Happy Easter everyone by the way.
> at  Nathan.
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
>Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
>(weather) Information?)
>
>
>Hey All,
>
>I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
>bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally agree
>with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his theories,
>without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with others,
>am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
>private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and not
>personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister is
>just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
>
>PaulY
>
>-----Original Message-----
> at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
>Wright
>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
>Information?
>
>
>
>Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
>dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>>
>>
>> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>>he disappears  at  the competition.
>>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by the
>>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to do
>>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
>>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
>>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
>> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>    at : michael king
>>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>>
>>
>>   Sha
>>
>>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken
>>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
>>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the truth
>>is still important, to correct him.
>>
>>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
>>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
>>Minister.
>>
>>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
>>information Minister)
>>
>>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
>>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will
>>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>>
>>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
>>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
>>memories!).
>>
>>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister
>>into the Iraqi desert.
>>
>>   With respect, but not love
>>
>>   Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>   > at : "Sha"
>>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>>   >To:
>>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>>   >
>>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
>>see
>>   >!!!!
>>   >
>>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
>>because
>>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
>>Ken's
>>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased,
>>but
>>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
>>philosophies, it
>>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
>>down and
>>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to
>>get
>>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>>   >
>>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
>>well,
>>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
>>given
>>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
>>now
>>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
>>large
>>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those
>>who
>>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
>>patterns
>>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences
>>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
>>ever
>>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an
>>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
>>the
>>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply
>>into
>>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>>   >
>>   >Love
>>   >Sha
>>   >
>>   >----- Original Message -----
>>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>>   >To:
>>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at 
>>the
>>   >weather at that time.
>>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
>>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >Cheers
>>   >Brian
>>   >----- Original Message -----
>>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>>   >To:
>>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > > Andrew wrote
>>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
>>many
>>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
>>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
>>   > > correlates with
>>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10
>>years
>>   > > experience,
>>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>>   > > etc etc
>>   > >
>>   > > Brian wrote
>>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
>>events
>>   > > that
>>   > > > occur every month.
>>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per
>>month,
>>   > > only 8.
>>   > >
>>   > > Jane wrote
>>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
>>area.
>>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
>>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
>>winds and
>>   >6m
>>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
>>Surely..
>>   > >
>>   > > Steven wrote
>>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
>>just
>>   > > some?
>>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
>>earthquakes.
>>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
>>Weather
>>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily,
>>not
>>   >just
>>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
>>water,
>>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
>>we
>>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither
>>can we
>>   > > disprove it.
>>   > >
>>   > > cheers
>>   > > Ken
>>   > >
>>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>>   > > To:
>>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   > >
>>   > >
>>   > > > Ken
>>   > > >
>>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
>>pressure.
>>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>>   > > >
>>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
>>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
>>making
>>   > > things
>>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>>   > > >
>>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails.
>>And
>>   >take
>>   > > > it in.
>>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
>>crossed
>>   >the
>>   > > > line
>>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>>   > > >
>>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>>   > > >
>>   > > > Andrew
>>   > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>>   > > > To:
>>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   > > >
>>   > > >
>>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
>>   >occurred
>>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>>   > > > >
>>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>>   > > > > To:
>>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   > > > >
>>   > > > >
>>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still
>>2
>>   >days
>>   > > > away
>>   > > > > > SO!
>>   > > > > > Cheers
>>   > > > > > Brian
>>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>>   > > > > > To:
>>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>>   > > > > >
>>   > > > > >
>>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
>>Perigee (2nd
>>   > > > > closest
>>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
>>equinox on
>>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
>>high when
>>   > > the
>>   > > > > > moon
>>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and
>>rain
>>   > > are
>>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon
>>to be
>>   > > > clear
>>   > > > > > in
>>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
>>Thursday
>>   > > > > morning,
>>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>>   > > > > > > cheers
>>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>>   > > > > > >
>>   >
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No it's not if you read what i said, we could be in a weak la nino, we leave 
in the tropic's and if the birds go noth to png you no we will be in a week 
la nino it's always the case watch and learn bud.its very odd for Townsville 
to get rain for this time of year i  will no in two weeks i have study this 
at school when we were doing weather.





> at : "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: birds and weather
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:11:37 +1000
>
>La Nina's a long way off, Michael.
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:44 AM
>Subject: aus-wx: birds and weather
>
>
> >
> >
> > The condition change on wednesday with the upper trough pushing in  at 
>the
> > west reciving 3mm in kelso but Townsville got most of the heavy rains 
> at 
> > the upper trough.
> >
> > I will no in two weeks when the season will turn in to a weak la nino 
>with
> > the birds starting to move north to png for migrating. this counts for 
>the
> > condition to change into a weak la nino and looking at nature and 
>weather
>it
> > always works.
> >
> >
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Subject: aus-wx: High barometer reading
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I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
high????

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I thoroughly agree. Anyone who wants to continue to discuss this or any
other weather-related topic can email me privately.

> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
Your comment worries me, Jacob. Does that mean I cannot respond to anything
anymore  at  a lunar point of view? It seems that there are quite a few on
this list who actually do find some of my ideas agreeable. The detractors
seem to be few in number but more vocal. It would be a sad day if you were
to censor out weather discussion that emanated  at  a different
philosophical standpoint.
cheers
Ken

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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
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>
> Yes, we have gone through this topic again and again. Lets stop it before
> it gets out of hand once again. Earthquakes are not fully on topic, and
the
> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
>
> Jacob and Dave (List owners)
>
>
>
> At 12:07 PM 18/04/2003 +0930, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I will have to agreed with Paul, everyone please make attention and
listen
> >to me: This is not a aus-wx forum place for argueing, fighting like a war
at
> >each other. This is a weather topic that we email an interest of weather
> >like when, what, where, whats happening in the past or at the present. I
> >will not be tolerated with anyone who glued to argue with Ken Ring like
> >that. I rather think it would be better off for you to chill off and
leave
> >him alone on aus-wx, then problem will go away. It is up to him what he
want
> >to do in forecast as in moon. And else of us are up to us to use model
> >forecast or BoM forecast. But it would be good to be with moon forecast
to
> >judge with. BUT! Please don't argue about it. If you want to, then take a
> >private message then. Not in this whole main aus-wx email group. I am
sure
> >Jacob will fix it up soon. Anyway. I better sign off the email and back
to
> >relax for public holiday today and be happy.
> >
> >I hope I appreciated your way to listen to us me and Paul and Jacob.
Anyway.
> >Happy Easter everyone by the way.
> > at  Nathan.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
> >Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
> >(weather) Information?)
> >
> >
> >Hey All,
> >
> >I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
> >bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally
agree
> >with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his
theories,
> >without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with
others,
> >am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
> >private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and
not
> >personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister
is
> >just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
> >
> >PaulY
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
> >Wright
> >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >Information?
> >
> >
> >
> >Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
> >dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?
> >>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> >>
> >>
> >> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >>he disappears  at  the competition.
> >>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
the
> >>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
do
> >>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his.
That
> >>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
> >>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> >> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>    at : michael king
> >>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> >>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >>
> >>
> >>   Sha
> >>
> >>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
Ken
> >>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
> >>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
truth
> >>is still important, to correct him.
> >>
> >>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> >>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
> >>Minister.
> >>
> >>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
> >>information Minister)
> >>
> >>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
> >>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
will
> >>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> >>
> >>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> >>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
Springs -
> >>memories!).
> >>
> >>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
Minister
> >>into the Iraqi desert.
> >>
> >>   With respect, but not love
> >>
> >>   Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   > at : "Sha"
> >>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >>   >To:
> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> >>   >
> >>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want
to
> >>see
> >>   >!!!!
> >>   >
> >>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
> >>because
> >>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
> >>Ken's
> >>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
biased,
> >>but
> >>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> >>philosophies, it
> >>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
> >>down and
> >>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability
to
> >>get
> >>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> >>   >
> >>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
> >>well,
> >>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
> >>given
> >>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
> >>now
> >>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many
more
> >>large
> >>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
Those
> >>who
> >>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> >>patterns
> >>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
coincidences
> >>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
> >>ever
> >>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is
an
> >>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen
to
> >>the
> >>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
deeply
> >>into
> >>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> >>   >
> >>   >Love
> >>   >Sha
> >>   >
> >>   >----- Original Message -----
> >>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >>   >To:
> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
> >>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
 at 
> >>the
> >>   >weather at that time.
> >>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> >>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> >>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
> >>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
get
> >>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   >Cheers
> >>   >Brian
> >>   >----- Original Message -----
> >>   > at : "Ken Ring"
> >>   >To:
> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   > > Andrew wrote
> >>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is,
how
> >>many
> >>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> >>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> >>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
perigee
> >>   > > correlates with
> >>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> >>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> >>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with
10
> >>years
> >>   > > experience,
> >>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> >>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> >>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> >>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> >>   > > etc etc
> >>   > >
> >>   > > Brian wrote
> >>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> >>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
> >>events
> >>   > > that
> >>   > > > occur every month.
> >>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
per
> >>month,
> >>   > > only 8.
> >>   > >
> >>   > > Jane wrote
> >>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
> >>area.
> >>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
was
> >>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
> >>winds and
> >>   >6m
> >>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
> >>Surely..
> >>   > >
> >>   > > Steven wrote
> >>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes
or
> >>just
> >>   > > some?
> >>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> >>earthquakes.
> >>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
> >>Weather
> >>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
daily,
> >>not
> >>   >just
> >>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily,
in
> >>water,
> >>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
obviously
> >>we
> >>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
Neither
> >>can we
> >>   > > disprove it.
> >>   > >
> >>   > > cheers
> >>   > > Ken
> >>   > >
> >>   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> >>   > > To:
> >>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> >>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   > >
> >>   > >
> >>   > > > Ken
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> >>pressure.
> >>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> >>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
weather.
> >>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
> >>making
> >>   > > things
> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
e-mails.
> >>And
> >>   >take
> >>   > > > it in.
> >>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
> >>crossed
> >>   >the
> >>   > > > line
> >>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > Andrew
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >>   > > > To:
> >>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> >>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > >
> >>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to
have
> >>   >occurred
> >>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> >>   > > > >
> >>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >>   > > > > To:
> >>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> >>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   > > > >
> >>   > > > >
> >>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
still
> >>2
> >>   >days
> >>   > > > away
> >>   > > > > > SO!
> >>   > > > > > Cheers
> >>   > > > > > Brian
> >>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >>   > > > > > To:
> >>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> >>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >>   > > > > >
> >>   > > > > >
> >>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> >>Perigee (2nd
> >>   > > > > closest
> >>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
> >>equinox on
> >>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
> >>high when
> >>   > > the
> >>   > > > > > moon
> >>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
and
> >>rain
> >>   > > are
> >>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> >>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
moon
> >>to be
> >>   > > > clear
> >>   > > > > > in
> >>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
> >>Thursday
> >>   > > > > morning,
> >>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> >>   > > > > > > cheers
> >>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> >>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
> >>   > > > > > >
> >>   >
> >>   >
> >>   >
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 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: birds and weather
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:45:52 +1200
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Michael - how old are you?

----- Original Message -----
 at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: birds and weather


>
>
> No it's not if you read what i said, we could be in a weak la nino, we
leave
> in the tropic's and if the birds go noth to png you no we will be in a
week
> la nino it's always the case watch and learn bud.its very odd for
Townsville
> to get rain for this time of year i  will no in two weeks i have study
this
> at school when we were doing weather.
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: birds and weather
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:11:37 +1000
> >
> >La Nina's a long way off, Michael.
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:44 AM
> >Subject: aus-wx: birds and weather
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > The condition change on wednesday with the upper trough pushing in
 at 
> >the
> > > west reciving 3mm in kelso but Townsville got most of the heavy rains
> > at 
> > > the upper trough.
> > >
> > > I will no in two weeks when the season will turn in to a weak la nino
> >with
> > > the birds starting to move north to png for migrating. this counts for
> >the
> > > condition to change into a weak la nino and looking at nature and
> >weather
> >it
> > > always works.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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 at : "Jane ONeill" <cadence at australianskynweather.com>
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Subject: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather updates
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A few updates all about the site....

an update to the Humour page (especially for those of you who haven't
seen it for a while)
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm

Chris Gribben's chase through central Victoria
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/11_04_03.htm

Images added to the Autumn 2003 photo page courtesy of Paul Ledwich,
Clayton Lawrence and Shawn Smits
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/autumn03.htm

PS: anyone have any images of the hail in the southwest earlier this
month they'd like to send in??

More to come......

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Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.stormchasers.au.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

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 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
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oh, my bad mistake, I didn't realise there were two Michaels. My sincere
apologies to the one that can spell.
:)
Ken

----- Original Message -----
 at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?


> Huh?? You brought it up mate. Make up your mind, Michael..
>
> >.. he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> Minister into the > Iraqi desert....Could please don't talk about the war,
i
> don't want to here and my father
> > dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:10 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> > >
> > >
> > > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
> BoM,
> > >he disappears  at  the competition.
> > >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
> the
> > >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
> do
> > >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his.
That
> > >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
> > >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> > > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >    at : michael king
> > >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?
> > >
> > >
> > >   Sha
> > >
> > >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
> Ken
> > >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when
Ken
> > >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
> truth
> > >is still important, to correct him.
> > >
> > >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> > >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi
information
> > >Minister.
> > >
> > >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
> > >information Minister)
> > >
> > >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can
influence
> > >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
> will
> > >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> > >
> > >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> > >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
Springs -
> > >memories!).
> > >
> > >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
> BoM,
> > >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> Minister
> > >into the Iraqi desert.
> > >
> > >   With respect, but not love
> > >
> > >   Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   > at : "Sha"
> > >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> > >   >
> > >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want
to
> > >see
> > >   >!!!!
> > >   >
> > >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail
still -
> > >because
> > >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
> > >Ken's
> > >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
> biased,
> > >but
> > >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> > >philosophies, it
> > >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
> > >down and
> > >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the
ability
> to
> > >get
> > >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> > >   >
> > >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
> > >well,
> > >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
> > >given
> > >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late !
Right
> > >now
> > >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many
more
> > >large
> > >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
> Those
> > >who
> > >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> > >patterns
> > >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
> coincidences
> > >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
> > >ever
> > >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown
is
> an
> > >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen
to
> > >the
> > >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
> deeply
> > >into
> > >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> > >   >
> > >   >Love
> > >   >Sha
> > >   >
> > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
> > >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
>  at 
> > >the
> > >   >weather at that time.
> > >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> > >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> > >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of
injuries
> > >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
> get
> > >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >Cheers
> > >   >Brian
> > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > > Andrew wrote
> > >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is,
how
> > >many
> > >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> > >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> > >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
> perigee
> > >   > > correlates with
> > >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> > >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> > >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot
with
> 10
> > >years
> > >   > > experience,
> > >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> > >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> > >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> > >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> > >   > > etc etc
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Brian wrote
> > >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so
moon
> > >events
> > >   > > that
> > >   > > > occur every month.
> > >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
> per
> > >month,
> > >   > > only 8.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Jane wrote
> > >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
> > >area.
> > >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
> was
> > >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
> > >winds and
> > >   >6m
> > >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible
connection?
> > >Surely..
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Steven wrote
> > >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes
or
> > >just
> > >   > > some?
> > >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> > >earthquakes.
> > >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
> > >Weather
> > >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
> daily,
> > >not
> > >   >just
> > >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily,
in
> > >water,
> > >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
obviously
> > >we
> > >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
> Neither
> > >can we
> > >   > > disprove it.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > cheers
> > >   > > Ken
> > >   > >
> > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> > >   > > To:
> > >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> > >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > > Ken
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> > >pressure.
> > >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
> weather.
> > >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
> > >making
> > >   > > things
> > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
> e-mails.
> > >And
> > >   >take
> > >   > > > it in.
> > >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
> > >crossed
> > >   >the
> > >   > > > line
> > >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Andrew
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   > > > To:
> > >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to
have
> > >   >occurred
> > >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > >   > > > > To:
> > >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
> still
> > >2
> > >   >days
> > >   > > > away
> > >   > > > > > SO!
> > >   > > > > > Cheers
> > >   > > > > > Brian
> > >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   > > > > > To:
> > >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> > >Perigee (2nd
> > >   > > > > closest
> > >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
> > >equinox on
> > >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
> > >high when
> > >   > > the
> > >   > > > > > moon
> > >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
> and
> > >rain
> > >   > > are
> > >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
> moon
> > >to be
> > >   > > > clear
> > >   > > > > > in
> > >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
> > >Thursday
> > >   > > > > morning,
> > >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > >   > > > > > > cheers
> > >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> > >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
> > >   > > > > > >
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Ken you sound like my Ex Grow up, maybe you should marry my Ex you a good 
couple. hahahaha



> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:54:40 +1200
>
>oh, my bad mistake, I didn't realise there were two Michaels. My sincere
>apologies to the one that can spell.
>:)
>Ken
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:48 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
> > Huh?? You brought it up mate. Make up your mind, Michael..
> >
> > >.. he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> > Minister into the > Iraqi desert....Could please don't talk about the 
>war,
>i
> > don't want to here and my father
> > > dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) 
>Information?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
>Information?
> > > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
> > BoM,
> > > >he disappears  at  the competition.
> > > >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for 
>by
> > the
> > > >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me 
>to
> > do
> > > >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his.
>That
> > > >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part 
>if
> > > >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will 
>disappear
> > > > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >    at : michael king
> > > >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
>Information?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   Sha
> > > >
> > > >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long 
>as
> > Ken
> > > >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when
>Ken
> > > >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
> > truth
> > > >is still important, to correct him.
> > > >
> > > >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> > > >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi
>information
> > > >Minister.
> > > >
> > > >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the 
>Weather
> > > >information Minister)
> > > >
> > > >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can
>influence
> > > >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - 
>"We
> > will
> > > >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> > > >
> > > >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> > > >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
>Springs -
> > > >memories!).
> > > >
> > > >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  
>the
> > BoM,
> > > >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> > Minister
> > > >into the Iraqi desert.
> > > >
> > > >   With respect, but not love
> > > >
> > > >   Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   > at : "Sha"
> > > >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >   >To:
> > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> > > >   >
> > > >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't 
>want
>to
> > > >see
> > > >   >!!!!
> > > >   >
> > > >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail
>still -
> > > >because
> > > >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I 
>appreciate
> > > >Ken's
> > > >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
> > biased,
> > > >but
> > > >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> > > >philosophies, it
> > > >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's 
>opinions
> > > >down and
> > > >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the
>ability
> > to
> > > >get
> > > >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> > > >   >
> > > >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, 
>as
> > > >well,
> > > >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people 
>were
> > > >given
> > > >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late !
>Right
> > > >now
> > > >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many
>more
> > > >large
> > > >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
> > Those
> > > >who
> > > >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> > > >patterns
> > > >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
> > coincidences
> > > >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody 
>can
> > > >ever
> > > >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown
>is
> > an
> > > >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually 
>listen
>to
> > > >the
> > > >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
> > deeply
> > > >into
> > > >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> > > >   >
> > > >   >Love
> > > >   >Sha
> > > >   >
> > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > >   >To:
> > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW 
>of
> > > >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
> >  at 
> > > >the
> > > >   >weather at that time.
> > > >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> > > >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> > > >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of
>injuries
> > > >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck 
>they
> > get
> > > >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   >Cheers
> > > >   >Brian
> > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> > > >   >To:
> > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   >
> > > >   >
> > > >   > > Andrew wrote
> > > >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is,
>how
> > > >many
> > > >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> > > >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> > > >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
> > perigee
> > > >   > > correlates with
> > > >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> > > >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> > > >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot
>with
> > 10
> > > >years
> > > >   > > experience,
> > > >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> > > >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> > > >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> > > >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> > > >   > > etc etc
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > Brian wrote
> > > >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > > >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so
>moon
> > > >events
> > > >   > > that
> > > >   > > > occur every month.
> > > >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon 
>events
> > per
> > > >month,
> > > >   > > only 8.
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > Jane wrote
> > > >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near 
>the
> > > >area.
> > > >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. 
>Cora
> > was
> > > >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 
>60knot
> > > >winds and
> > > >   >6m
> > > >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible
>connection?
> > > >Surely..
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > Steven wrote
> > > >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth 
>quakes
>or
> > > >just
> > > >   > > some?
> > > >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> > > >earthquakes.
> > > >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 
>5.
> > > >Weather
> > > >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
> > daily,
> > > >not
> > > >   >just
> > > >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - 
>daily,
>in
> > > >water,
> > > >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
>obviously
> > > >we
> > > >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
> > Neither
> > > >can we
> > > >   > > disprove it.
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > cheers
> > > >   > > Ken
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> > > >   > > To:
> > > >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> > > >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > >
> > > >   > > > Ken
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> > > >pressure.
> > > >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > > >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
> > weather.
> > > >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point 
>of
> > > >making
> > > >   > > things
> > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
> > e-mails.
> > > >And
> > > >   >take
> > > >   > > > it in.
> > > >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you 
>have
> > > >crossed
> > > >   >the
> > > >   > > > line
> > > >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > Andrew
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > >   > > > To:
> > > >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > > >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > >
> > > >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to
>have
> > > >   >occurred
> > > >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> > > >   > > > >
> > > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > >   > > > > To:
> > > >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   > > > >
> > > >   > > > >
> > > >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
> > still
> > > >2
> > > >   >days
> > > >   > > > away
> > > >   > > > > > SO!
> > > >   > > > > > Cheers
> > > >   > > > > > Brian
> > > >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > >   > > > > > To:
> > > >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > >   > > > > >
> > > >   > > > > >
> > > >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> > > >Perigee (2nd
> > > >   > > > > closest
> > > >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus 
>lunar
> > > >equinox on
> > > >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly 
>deeper
> > > >high when
> > > >   > > the
> > > >   > > > > > moon
> > > >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. 
>Winds
> > and
> > > >rain
> > > >   > > are
> > > >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > > >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the 
>full
> > moon
> > > >to be
> > > >   > > > clear
> > > >   > > > > > in
> > > >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am 
>on
> > > >Thursday
> > > >   > > > > morning,
> > > >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > >   > > > > > > cheers
> > > >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> > > >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was  Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:20:05 +1000
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AGREED!!!!
----- Original Message -----
 at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
(weather) Information?)


> Hey All,
>
> I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
> bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally
agree
> with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his theories,
> without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with others,
> am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
> private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and
not
> personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister
is
> just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
>
> PaulY
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
> Wright
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> Information?
>
>
>
> Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
> dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> >
> >
> > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >he disappears  at  the competition.
> >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
the
> >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
do
> >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
> >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
> >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >    at : michael king
> >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >
> >
> >   Sha
> >
> >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
Ken
> >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
> >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
truth
> >is still important, to correct him.
> >
> >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
> >Minister.
> >
> >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
> >information Minister)
> >
> >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
> >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
will
> >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> >
> >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
> >memories!).
> >
> >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
BoM,
> >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
Minister
> >into the Iraqi desert.
> >
> >   With respect, but not love
> >
> >   Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >   > at : "Sha"
> >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >   >To:
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> >   >
> >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
> >see
> >   >!!!!
> >   >
> >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
> >because
> >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
> >Ken's
> >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
biased,
> >but
> >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> >philosophies, it
> >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
> >down and
> >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability
to
> >get
> >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> >   >
> >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
> >well,
> >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
> >given
> >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
> >now
> >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
> >large
> >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
Those
> >who
> >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> >patterns
> >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
coincidences
> >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
> >ever
> >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is
an
> >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
> >the
> >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
deeply
> >into
> >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> >   >
> >   >Love
> >   >Sha
> >   >
> >   >----- Original Message -----
> >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >   >To:
> >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
> >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
 at 
> >the
> >   >weather at that time.
> >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
> >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
get
> >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >Cheers
> >   >Brian
> >   >----- Original Message -----
> >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> >   >To:
> >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > > Andrew wrote
> >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
> >many
> >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
perigee
> >   > > correlates with
> >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with
10
> >years
> >   > > experience,
> >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> >   > > etc etc
> >   > >
> >   > > Brian wrote
> >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
> >events
> >   > > that
> >   > > > occur every month.
> >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
per
> >month,
> >   > > only 8.
> >   > >
> >   > > Jane wrote
> >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
> >area.
> >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
was
> >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
> >winds and
> >   >6m
> >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
> >Surely..
> >   > >
> >   > > Steven wrote
> >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
> >just
> >   > > some?
> >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> >earthquakes.
> >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
> >Weather
> >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
daily,
> >not
> >   >just
> >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
> >water,
> >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
> >we
> >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
Neither
> >can we
> >   > > disprove it.
> >   > >
> >   > > cheers
> >   > > Ken
> >   > >
> >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> >   > > To:
> >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > > Ken
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> >pressure.
> >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
weather.
> >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
> >making
> >   > > things
> >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
e-mails.
> >And
> >   >take
> >   > > > it in.
> >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
> >crossed
> >   >the
> >   > > > line
> >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >   > > >
> >   > > > Andrew
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >   > > > To:
> >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > >
> >   > > >
> >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
> >   >occurred
> >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >   > > > > To:
> >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > >
> >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
still
> >2
> >   >days
> >   > > > away
> >   > > > > > SO!
> >   > > > > > Cheers
> >   > > > > > Brian
> >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >   > > > > > To:
> >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > >
> >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> >Perigee (2nd
> >   > > > > closest
> >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
> >equinox on
> >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
> >high when
> >   > > the
> >   > > > > > moon
> >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
and
> >rain
> >   > > are
> >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
moon
> >to be
> >   > > > clear
> >   > > > > > in
> >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
> >Thursday
> >   > > > > morning,
> >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> >   > > > > > > cheers
> >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
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 at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was  Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:58:03 +0930
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Here Here!!!!!

Paul Mossman
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----- Original Message -----
 at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
(weather) Information?)


Hey All,

I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally agree
with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his theories,
without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with others,
am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and not
personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister is
just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!

PaulY

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
Wright
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?



Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)






> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>
>
> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition.
>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by the
>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to do
>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. That
>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>   ----- Original Message -----
>    at : michael king
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>
>
>   Sha
>
>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as Ken
>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the truth
>is still important, to correct him.
>
>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
>Minister.
>
>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
>information Minister)
>
>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We will
>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>
>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs -
>memories!).
>
>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the BoM,
>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned Minister
>into the Iraqi desert.
>
>   With respect, but not love
>
>   Michael
>
>
>
>   > at : "Sha"
>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   >To:
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>   >
>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want to
>see
>   >!!!!
>   >
>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
>because
>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
>Ken's
>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am biased,
>but
>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
>philosophies, it
>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
>down and
>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability to
>get
>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>   >
>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
>well,
>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
>given
>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
>now
>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many more
>large
>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc. Those
>who
>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
>patterns
>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any coincidences
>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
>ever
>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is an
>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen to
>the
>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more deeply
>into
>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>   >
>   >Love
>   >Sha
>   >
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not  at 
>the
>   >weather at that time.
>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they get
>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >Cheers
>   >Brian
>   >----- Original Message -----
>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>   >To:
>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   >
>   >
>   > > Andrew wrote
>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, how
>many
>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April perigee
>   > > correlates with
>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with 10
>years
>   > > experience,
>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>   > > etc etc
>   > >
>   > > Brian wrote
>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
>events
>   > > that
>   > > > occur every month.
>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events per
>month,
>   > > only 8.
>   > >
>   > > Jane wrote
>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
>area.
>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora was
>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
>winds and
>   >6m
>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
>Surely..
>   > >
>   > > Steven wrote
>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes or
>just
>   > > some?
>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
>earthquakes.
>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
>Weather
>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be daily,
>not
>   >just
>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, in
>water,
>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but obviously
>we
>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it. Neither
>can we
>   > > disprove it.
>   > >
>   > > cheers
>   > > Ken
>   > >
>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>   > > To:
>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > > Ken
>   > > >
>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
>pressure.
>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>   > > >
>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its weather.
>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
>making
>   > > things
>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>   > > >
>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you e-mails.
>And
>   >take
>   > > > it in.
>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
>crossed
>   >the
>   > > > line
>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>   > > >
>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>   > > >
>   > > > Andrew
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > To:
>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to have
>   >occurred
>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>   > > > > To:
>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > >
>   > > > >
>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is still
>2
>   >days
>   > > > away
>   > > > > > SO!
>   > > > > > Cheers
>   > > > > > Brian
>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>   > > > > > To:
>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > >
>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
>Perigee (2nd
>   > > > > closest
>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
>equinox on
>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
>high when
>   > > the
>   > > > > > moon
>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds and
>rain
>   > > are
>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full moon
>to be
>   > > > clear
>   > > > > > in
>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
>Thursday
>   > > > > morning,
>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>   > > > > > > cheers
>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>   > > > > > >
>   >
>   >
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather updates
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:00:32 +0930
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I hope you are adding the recent e-mails to your humour page.....

:)


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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Australian Sky & Weather updates


> A few updates all about the site....
> 
> an update to the Humour page (especially for those of you who haven't
> seen it for a while)
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/humour.htm
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Big rains for the Tropic's 30mm but off the coast 50mm, plus a cyclone may 
form in the corral sea in a couple of days best beacuse of the strong high 
of 1032 hpa in the bight. putting us in a strong wind warning for saturday
i have sean all year

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To tell you all why don't you all lot grow up this is not off tropic's 
forums it's about weather and weather only, give it a rest. i think the 
owner should close this topic and respect people options if they have 
spelling errors all what ever the case is help them out don't bag them give 
them a hand point them to help them out don't go off at them all time you 
wont like if they did it to you some closes this topic....




> at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was  Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for 
>(weather) Information?)
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:20:05 +1000
>
>AGREED!!!!
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 11:24 AM
>Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
>(weather) Information?)
>
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic 
>ass
> > bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally
>agree
> > with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his 
>theories,
> > without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with 
>others,
> > am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it 
>to
> > private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and
>not
> > personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister
>is
> > just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
> >
> > PaulY
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >  at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
> > Wright
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> > Information?
> >
> >
> >
> > Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my 
>father
> > dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) 
>Information?
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> > >
> > >
> > > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
>BoM,
> > >he disappears  at  the competition.
> > >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
>the
> > >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
>do
> > >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his. 
>That
> > >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
> > >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
> > > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >    at : michael king
> > >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) 
>Information?
> > >
> > >
> > >   Sha
> > >
> > >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
>Ken
> > >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when 
>Ken
> > >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
>truth
> > >is still important, to correct him.
> > >
> > >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> > >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi 
>information
> > >Minister.
> > >
> > >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
> > >information Minister)
> > >
> > >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can 
>influence
> > >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
>will
> > >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> > >
> > >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> > >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice Springs 
>-
> > >memories!).
> > >
> > >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
>BoM,
> > >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
>Minister
> > >into the Iraqi desert.
> > >
> > >   With respect, but not love
> > >
> > >   Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   > at : "Sha"
> > >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> > >   >
> > >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want 
>to
> > >see
> > >   >!!!!
> > >   >
> > >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still 
>-
> > >because
> > >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
> > >Ken's
> > >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
>biased,
> > >but
> > >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> > >philosophies, it
> > >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
> > >down and
> > >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the 
>ability
>to
> > >get
> > >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> > >   >
> > >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
> > >well,
> > >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
> > >given
> > >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! 
>Right
> > >now
> > >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many 
>more
> > >large
> > >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
>Those
> > >who
> > >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> > >patterns
> > >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
>coincidences
> > >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
> > >ever
> > >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown 
>is
>an
> > >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen 
>to
> > >the
> > >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
>deeply
> > >into
> > >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> > >   >
> > >   >Love
> > >   >Sha
> > >   >
> > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
> > >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
> at 
> > >the
> > >   >weather at that time.
> > >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> > >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> > >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of 
>injuries
> > >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
>get
> > >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   >Cheers
> > >   >Brian
> > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   >To:
> > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > > Andrew wrote
> > >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is, 
>how
> > >many
> > >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> > >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> > >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
>perigee
> > >   > > correlates with
> > >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> > >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> > >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot 
>with
>10
> > >years
> > >   > > experience,
> > >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> > >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> > >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> > >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> > >   > > etc etc
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Brian wrote
> > >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so 
>moon
> > >events
> > >   > > that
> > >   > > > occur every month.
> > >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
>per
> > >month,
> > >   > > only 8.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Jane wrote
> > >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
> > >area.
> > >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
>was
> > >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
> > >winds and
> > >   >6m
> > >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible 
>connection?
> > >Surely..
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Steven wrote
> > >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes 
>or
> > >just
> > >   > > some?
> > >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> > >earthquakes.
> > >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
> > >Weather
> > >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
>daily,
> > >not
> > >   >just
> > >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily, 
>in
> > >water,
> > >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but 
>obviously
> > >we
> > >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
>Neither
> > >can we
> > >   > > disprove it.
> > >   > >
> > >   > > cheers
> > >   > > Ken
> > >   > >
> > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> > >   > > To:
> > >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> > >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > > Ken
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> > >pressure.
> > >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
>weather.
> > >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
> > >making
> > >   > > things
> > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
>e-mails.
> > >And
> > >   >take
> > >   > > > it in.
> > >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
> > >crossed
> > >   >the
> > >   > > > line
> > >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > Andrew
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   > > > To:
> > >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to 
>have
> > >   >occurred
> > >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > >   > > > > To:
> > >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
>still
> > >2
> > >   >days
> > >   > > > away
> > >   > > > > > SO!
> > >   > > > > > Cheers
> > >   > > > > > Brian
> > >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > >   > > > > > To:
> > >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> > >Perigee (2nd
> > >   > > > > closest
> > >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
> > >equinox on
> > >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
> > >high when
> > >   > > the
> > >   > > > > > moon
> > >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
>and
> > >rain
> > >   > > are
> > >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> > >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
>moon
> > >to be
> > >   > > > clear
> > >   > > > > > in
> > >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
> > >Thursday
> > >   > > > > morning,
> > >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > >   > > > > > > cheers
> > >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> > >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
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 at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:51:44 +1000
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Please take this off list!!!
I enjoy the weather  at  here and abroad. Not your stupid bickering.
Everyone has their opinions. If you have anything other than personal
assaults, then post them. Otherwise, SHUT UP!!! Get a grip and get on with
your life!!!!!!!!

----- Original Message -----
 at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry


>
> Ken you sound like my Ex Grow up, maybe you should marry my Ex you a good
> couple. hahahaha
>
>
>
> > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:54:40 +1200
> >
> >oh, my bad mistake, I didn't realise there were two Michaels. My sincere
> >apologies to the one that can spell.
> >:)
> >Ken
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
> >
> >
> > > Huh?? You brought it up mate. Make up your mind, Michael..
> > >
> > > >.. he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> > > Minister into the > Iraqi desert....Could please don't talk about the
> >war,
> >i
> > > don't want to here and my father
> > > > dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >Information?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >Information?
> > > > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at 
the
> > > BoM,
> > > > >he disappears  at  the competition.
> > > > >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for
> >by
> > > the
> > > > >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take
me
> >to
> > > do
> > > > >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not
his.
> >That
> > > > >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take
part
> >if
> > > > >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will
> >disappear
> > > > > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >    at : michael king
> > > > >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > > >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >Information?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Sha
> > > > >
> > > > >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long
> >as
> > > Ken
> > > > >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And
when
> >Ken
> > > > >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that
the
> > > truth
> > > > >is still important, to correct him.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am
now
> > > > >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi
> >information
> > > > >Minister.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the
> >Weather
> > > > >information Minister)
> > > > >
> > > > >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can
> >influence
> > > > >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take -
> >"We
> > > will
> > > > >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> > > > >
> > > > >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we
still
> > > > >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
> >Springs -
> > > > >memories!).
> > > > >
> > > > >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at 
> >the
> > > BoM,
> > > > >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> > > Minister
> > > > >into the Iraqi desert.
> > > > >
> > > > >   With respect, but not love
> > > > >
> > > > >   Michael
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   > at : "Sha"
> > > > >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > >   >To:
> > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't
> >want
> >to
> > > > >see
> > > > >   >!!!!
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail
> >still -
> > > > >because
> > > > >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I
> >appreciate
> > > > >Ken's
> > > > >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
> > > biased,
> > > > >but
> > > > >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> > > > >philosophies, it
> > > > >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's
> >opinions
> > > > >down and
> > > > >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the
> >ability
> > > to
> > > > >get
> > > > >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's
time,
> >as
> > > > >well,
> > > > >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people
> >were
> > > > >given
> > > > >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late !
> >Right
> > > > >now
> > > > >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are
many
> >more
> > > > >large
> > > > >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes,
etc.
> > > Those
> > > > >who
> > > > >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own
thought
> > > > >patterns
> > > > >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
> > > coincidences
> > > > >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody
> >can
> > > > >ever
> > > > >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the
unknown
> >is
> > > an
> > > > >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually
> >listen
> >to
> > > > >the
> > > > >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
> > > deeply
> > > > >into
> > > > >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >Love
> > > > >   >Sha
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > > >   >To:
> > > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and
SW
> >of
> > > > >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks,
not
> > >  at 
> > > > >the
> > > > >   >weather at that time.
> > > > >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has
passed/peaked.
> > > > >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> > > > >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of
> >injuries
> > > > >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck
> >they
> > > get
> > > > >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >Cheers
> > > > >   >Brian
> > > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > >   >To:
> > > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > > Andrew wrote
> > > > >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> > > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > > >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question
is,
> >how
> > > > >many
> > > > >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> > > > >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> > > > >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
> > > perigee
> > > > >   > > correlates with
> > > > >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> > > > >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> > > > >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot
> >with
> > > 10
> > > > >years
> > > > >   > > experience,
> > > > >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> > > > >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> > > > >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> > > > >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> > > > >   > > etc etc
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > Brian wrote
> > > > >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > > > >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so
> >moon
> > > > >events
> > > > >   > > that
> > > > >   > > > occur every month.
> > > > >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon
> >events
> > > per
> > > > >month,
> > > > >   > > only 8.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > Jane wrote
> > > > >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near
> >the
> > > > >area.
> > > > >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th.
> >Cora
> > > was
> > > > >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the
> >60knot
> > > > >winds and
> > > > >   >6m
> > > > >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible
> >connection?
> > > > >Surely..
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > Steven wrote
> > > > >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth
> >quakes
> >or
> > > > >just
> > > > >   > > some?
> > > > >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> > > > >earthquakes.
> > > > >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over
mag
> >5.
> > > > >Weather
> > > > >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
> > > daily,
> > > > >not
> > > > >   >just
> > > > >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides -
> >daily,
> >in
> > > > >water,
> > > > >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
> >obviously
> > > > >we
> > > > >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
> > > Neither
> > > > >can we
> > > > >   > > disprove it.
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > cheers
> > > > >   > > Ken
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> > > > >   > > To:
> > > > >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> > > > >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > >
> > > > >   > > > Ken
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve
the
> > > > >pressure.
> > > > >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > > > >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
> > > weather.
> > > > >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the
point
> >of
> > > > >making
> > > > >   > > things
> > > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
> > > e-mails.
> > > > >And
> > > > >   >take
> > > > >   > > > it in.
> > > > >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you
> >have
> > > > >crossed
> > > > >   >the
> > > > >   > > > line
> > > > >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > Andrew
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > >   > > > To:
> > > > >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > > > >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > >
> > > > >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems
to
> >have
> > > > >   >occurred
> > > > >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > > >   > > > > To:
> > > > >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > > >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon
is
> > > still
> > > > >2
> > > > >   >days
> > > > >   > > > away
> > > > >   > > > > > SO!
> > > > >   > > > > > Cheers
> > > > >   > > > > > Brian
> > > > >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > >   > > > > > To:
> > > > >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > > >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just
now.
> > > > >Perigee (2nd
> > > > >   > > > > closest
> > > > >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus
> >lunar
> > > > >equinox on
> > > > >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly
> >deeper
> > > > >high when
> > > > >   > > the
> > > > >   > > > > > moon
> > > > >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent.
> >Winds
> > > and
> > > > >rain
> > > > >   > > are
> > > > >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around
moonrise.
> > > > >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the
> >full
> > > moon
> > > > >to be
> > > > >   > > > clear
> > > > >   > > > > > in
> > > > >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at
7.34am
> >on
> > > > >Thursday
> > > > >   > > > > morning,
> > > > >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > >   > > > > > > cheers
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two accounts hey ken this should be sean by the list owner not good





> at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 19:51:44 +1000
>
>Please take this off list!!!
>I enjoy the weather  at  here and abroad. Not your stupid bickering.
>Everyone has their opinions. If you have anything other than personal
>assaults, then post them. Otherwise, SHUT UP!!! Get a grip and get on with
>your life!!!!!!!!
>
>----- Original Message -----
> at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 6:56 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
>
>
> >
> > Ken you sound like my Ex Grow up, maybe you should marry my Ex you a 
>good
> > couple. hahahaha
> >
> >
> >
> > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:54:40 +1200
> > >
> > >oh, my bad mistake, I didn't realise there were two Michaels. My 
>sincere
> > >apologies to the one that can spell.
> > >:)
> > >Ken
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) 
>Information?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Huh?? You brought it up mate. Make up your mind, Michael..
> > > >
> > > > >.. he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the 
>aforementioned
> > > > Minister into the > Iraqi desert....Could please don't talk about 
>the
> > >war,
> > >i
> > > > don't want to here and my father
> > > > > dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Michael James Wright" <bestcountrymix at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:10 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> > >Information?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > > > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> > >Information?
> > > > > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at 
>the
> > > > BoM,
> > > > > >he disappears  at  the competition.
> > > > > >I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid 
>for
> > >by
> > > > the
> > > > > >Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take
>me
> > >to
> > > > do
> > > > > >the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not
>his.
> > >That
> > > > > >makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take
>part
> > >if
> > > > > >you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will
> > >disappear
> > > > > > at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi 
>desert..
> > > > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >    at : michael king
> > > > > >   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > > >   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> > > > > >   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> > >Information?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Sha
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as 
>long
> > >as
> > > > Ken
> > > > > >ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And
>when
> > >Ken
> > > > > >gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that
>the
> > > > truth
> > > > > >is still important, to correct him.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am
>now
> > > > > >totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi
> > >information
> > > > > >Minister.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the
> > >Weather
> > > > > >information Minister)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can
> > >influence
> > > > > >such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take 
>-
> > >"We
> > > > will
> > > > > >crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we
>still
> > > > > >remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
> > >Springs -
> > > > > >memories!).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone 
> at 
> > >the
> > > > BoM,
> > > > > >he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the 
>aforementioned
> > > > Minister
> > > > > >into the Iraqi desert.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   With respect, but not love
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   Michael
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   > at : "Sha"
> > > > > >   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > > >   >To:
> > > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't
> > >want
> > >to
> > > > > >see
> > > > > >   >!!!!
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail
> > >still -
> > > > > >because
> > > > > >   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I
> > >appreciate
> > > > > >Ken's
> > > > > >   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I 
>am
> > > > biased,
> > > > > >but
> > > > > >   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> > > > > >philosophies, it
> > > > > >   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's
> > >opinions
> > > > > >down and
> > > > > >   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the
> > >ability
> > > > to
> > > > > >get
> > > > > >   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's
>time,
> > >as
> > > > > >well,
> > > > > >   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the 
>people
> > >were
> > > > > >given
> > > > > >   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late 
>!
> > >Right
> > > > > >now
> > > > > >   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are
>many
> > >more
> > > > > >large
> > > > > >   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes,
>etc.
> > > > Those
> > > > > >who
> > > > > >   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own
>thought
> > > > > >patterns
> > > > > >   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
> > > > coincidences
> > > > > >   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, 
>nobody
> > >can
> > > > > >ever
> > > > > >   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the
>unknown
> > >is
> > > > an
> > > > > >   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually
> > >listen
> > >to
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking 
>more
> > > > deeply
> > > > > >into
> > > > > >   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary 
>!!
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Love
> > > > > >   >Sha
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > > > >   >To:
> > > > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> > > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and
>SW
> > >of
> > > > > >   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks,
>not
> > > >  at 
> > > > > >the
> > > > > >   >weather at that time.
> > > > > >   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has
>passed/peaked.
> > > > > >   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> > > > > >   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of
> > >injuries
> > > > > >   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, 
>heck
> > >they
> > > > get
> > > > > >   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >Cheers
> > > > > >   >Brian
> > > > > >   >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > > >   >To:
> > > > > >   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> > > > > >   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   >
> > > > > >   > > Andrew wrote
> > > > > >   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> > > > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > > > >   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question
>is,
> > >how
> > > > > >many
> > > > > >   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> > > > > >seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> > > > > >   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current 
>April
> > > > perigee
> > > > > >   > > correlates with
> > > > > >   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> > > > > >   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> > > > > >   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a 
>pilot
> > >with
> > > > 10
> > > > > >years
> > > > > >   > > experience,
> > > > > >   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> > > > > >   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> > > > > >   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> > > > > >   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> > > > > >   > > etc etc
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > Brian wrote
> > > > > >   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> > > > > >   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or 
>so
> > >moon
> > > > > >events
> > > > > >   > > that
> > > > > >   > > > occur every month.
> > > > > >   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon
> > >events
> > > > per
> > > > > >month,
> > > > > >   > > only 8.
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > Jane wrote
> > > > > >   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere 
>near
> > >the
> > > > > >area.
> > > > > >   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 
>28/29th.
> > >Cora
> > > > was
> > > > > >   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the
> > >60knot
> > > > > >winds and
> > > > > >   >6m
> > > > > >   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible
> > >connection?
> > > > > >Surely..
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > Steven wrote
> > > > > >   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth
> > >quakes
> > >or
> > > > > >just
> > > > > >   > > some?
> > > > > >   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather 
>and
> > > > > >earthquakes.
> > > > > >   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over
>mag
> > >5.
> > > > > >Weather
> > > > > >   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to 
>be
> > > > daily,
> > > > > >not
> > > > > >   >just
> > > > > >   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides -
> > >daily,
> > >in
> > > > > >water,
> > > > > >   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
> > >obviously
> > > > > >we
> > > > > >   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of 
>it.
> > > > Neither
> > > > > >can we
> > > > > >   > > disprove it.
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > cheers
> > > > > >   > > Ken
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> > > > > >   > > To:
> > > > > >   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> > > > > >   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > >
> > > > > >   > > > Ken
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve
>the
> > > > > >pressure.
> > > > > >   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> > > > > >   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and 
>its
> > > > weather.
> > > > > >   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the
>point
> > >of
> > > > > >making
> > > > > >   > > things
> > > > > >   > > > to fit any given situation.
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
> > > > e-mails.
> > > > > >And
> > > > > >   >take
> > > > > >   > > > it in.
> > > > > >   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you
> > >have
> > > > > >crossed
> > > > > >   >the
> > > > > >   > > > line
> > > > > >   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > Andrew
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > > >   > > > To:
> > > > > >   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> > > > > >   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > >
> > > > > >   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems
>to
> > >have
> > > > > >   >occurred
> > > > > >   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> > > > > >   > > > >
> > > > > >   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> > > > > >   > > > > To:
> > > > > >   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> > > > > >   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   > > > >
> > > > > >   > > > >
> > > > > >   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full 
>moon
>is
> > > > still
> > > > > >2
> > > > > >   >days
> > > > > >   > > > away
> > > > > >   > > > > > SO!
> > > > > >   > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > >   > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> > > > > >   > > > > > To:
> > > > > >   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> > > > > >   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> > > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > > >   > > > > >
> > > > > >   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just
>now.
> > > > > >Perigee (2nd
> > > > > >   > > > > closest
> > > > > >   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus
> > >lunar
> > > > > >equinox on
> > > > > >   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly
> > >deeper
> > > > > >high when
> > > > > >   > > the
> > > > > >   > > > > > moon
> > > > > >   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent.
> > >Winds
> > > > and
> > > > > >rain
> > > > > >   > > are
> > > > > >   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around
>moonrise.
> > > > > >   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the
> > >full
> > > > moon
> > > > > >to be
> > > > > >   > > > clear
> > > > > >   > > > > > in
> > > > > >   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at
>7.34am
> > >on
> > > > > >Thursday
> > > > > >   > > > > morning,
> > > > > >   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> > > > > >   > > > > > > cheers
> > > > > >   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> > > > > >   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > > > >   > > > > > >
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Fucking go up you heep off shit i had two uncles killed in veitnam and i 
don't want to here about the fucking war you fuck. you are the one who 
bought it up not me, you don't like it when you tell someone off now its my 
turn to you off your the trouble maker on the forum and the other 
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Hi All and the list moderators

This is a formal request for the termination of subscription of "Michael
James Wright". After his last email, I find it inappropriate for that type
of language in a public forum. This should have been completely private, but
has leaked onto the list now, and due to it, I am putting forward that his
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Darwin set a new April Max temp record on Thursday coming in at 36.7C. Even
better seeing as I tipped it ;)

We also looked like smahing the rainfall (or less :) ) but got a massive
fall of 0.8mm the other night to make it the second driest April ever.

Not bad when you get two major records in one month!

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Michael, Michael.....

Have you ever heard the saying "two wrongs dont make a right".

Maybe you should take some anger management counselling?

Back to the weather ...... dry here with our first below 15C DP today.
Humidity at 3pm was a beaut 25% RH. But it seems only for a day or two as
easterly surge pushes some moisture and the chance of a showrr or 4 for
early next week.

Wouldn't mind a gulf line or 5..... :)

Paul.

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Fucking go up you heep off shit i had two uncles killed in veitnam and i
don't want to here about the fucking war you fuck. you are the one who
bought it up not me, you don't like it when you tell someone off now its my
turn to you off your the trouble maker on the forum and the other
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I agree. No place for that sort of language or attacks!
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> Hi All and the list moderators
>
> This is a formal request for the termination of subscription of "Michael
> James Wright". After his last email, I find it inappropriate for that type
> of language in a public forum. This should have been completely private,
but
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Seconded.

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I also agree, I have just removed him.

He has been banned before, and over the past 6 months he has tried to
re-subscribed several times, but I didn't put it through.

He then tried to subscribe with a hotmail account, so I didn't know it was
him till he first posted.
Since he was on and it had been a while since he was last on, I thought I
would give him another chance, but obviously he hasn't changed.

Jacob




At 08:33 PM 18/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>I agree. No place for that sort of language or attacks!
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>> James Wright". After his last email, I find it inappropriate for that type
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When its to do with earthquakes, its probably better not too, as it is
off-topic. 

If its about the moon and weather combined I cant really stop you, as
you're right, it is still weather related even though it hasn't been proven
that the moon and the weather have much in common. 

But I would just like to say that all the past threads on this issue has
always ended up in huge arguments between list members, and I dont see how
that can benefit anyone, so its probably best that we try to avoid it if
possible. I think everyone just needs to respect each other whenever this
controversial issue is discussed again.

Jacob



At 08:44 PM 18/04/2003 +1200, you wrote:
>I thoroughly agree. Anyone who wants to continue to discuss this or any
>other weather-related topic can email me privately.
>
>> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
>Your comment worries me, Jacob. Does that mean I cannot respond to anything
>anymore  at  a lunar point of view? It seems that there are quite a few on
>this list who actually do find some of my ideas agreeable. The detractors
>seem to be few in number but more vocal. It would be a sad day if you were
>to censor out weather discussion that emanated  at  a different
>philosophical standpoint.
>cheers
>Ken
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:17 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
>(weather) Information?)
>
>
>>
>> Yes, we have gone through this topic again and again. Lets stop it before
>> it gets out of hand once again. Earthquakes are not fully on topic, and
>the
>> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
>>
>> Jacob and Dave (List owners)
>>
>>
>>
>> At 12:07 PM 18/04/2003 +0930, you wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I will have to agreed with Paul, everyone please make attention and
>listen
>> >to me: This is not a aus-wx forum place for argueing, fighting like a war
>at
>> >each other. This is a weather topic that we email an interest of weather
>> >like when, what, where, whats happening in the past or at the present. I
>> >will not be tolerated with anyone who glued to argue with Ken Ring like
>> >that. I rather think it would be better off for you to chill off and
>leave
>> >him alone on aus-wx, then problem will go away. It is up to him what he
>want
>> >to do in forecast as in moon. And else of us are up to us to use model
>> >forecast or BoM forecast. But it would be good to be with moon forecast
>to
>> >judge with. BUT! Please don't argue about it. If you want to, then take a
>> >private message then. Not in this whole main aus-wx email group. I am
>sure
>> >Jacob will fix it up soon. Anyway. I better sign off the email and back
>to
>> >relax for public holiday today and be happy.
>> >
>> >I hope I appreciated your way to listen to us me and Paul and Jacob.
>Anyway.
>> >Happy Easter everyone by the way.
>> > at  Nathan.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> > at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
>> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
>> >Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
>> >(weather) Information?)
>> >
>> >
>> >Hey All,
>> >
>> >I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic ass
>> >bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally
>agree
>> >with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his
>theories,
>> >without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with
>others,
>> >am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it to
>> >private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather, and
>not
>> >personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information Minister
>is
>> >just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
>> >
>> >PaulY
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael James
>> >Wright
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
>> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
>> >Information?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my father
>> >dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
>> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
>Information?
>> >>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
>BoM,
>> >>he disappears  at  the competition.
>> >>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for by
>the
>> >>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me to
>do
>> >>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his.
>That
>> >>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part if
>> >>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will disappear
>> >> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
>> >>   ----- Original Message -----
>> >>    at : michael king
>> >>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
>> >>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather) Information?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Sha
>> >>
>> >>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long as
>Ken
>> >>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when Ken
>> >>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
>truth
>> >>is still important, to correct him.
>> >>
>> >>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
>> >>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi information
>> >>Minister.
>> >>
>> >>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the Weather
>> >>information Minister)
>> >>
>> >>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can influence
>> >>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take - "We
>will
>> >>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
>> >>
>> >>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
>> >>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
>Springs -
>> >>memories!).
>> >>
>> >>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
>BoM,
>> >>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
>Minister
>> >>into the Iraqi desert.
>> >>
>> >>   With respect, but not love
>> >>
>> >>   Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   > at : "Sha"
>> >>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> >>   >To:
>> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
>> >>   >
>> >>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't want
>to
>> >>see
>> >>   >!!!!
>> >>   >
>> >>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail still -
>> >>because
>> >>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I appreciate
>> >>Ken's
>> >>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
>biased,
>> >>but
>> >>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
>> >>philosophies, it
>> >>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's opinions
>> >>down and
>> >>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the ability
>to
>> >>get
>> >>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
>> >>   >
>> >>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time, as
>> >>well,
>> >>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people were
>> >>given
>> >>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late ! Right
>> >>now
>> >>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many
>more
>> >>large
>> >>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
>Those
>> >>who
>> >>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
>> >>patterns
>> >>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
>coincidences
>> >>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody can
>> >>ever
>> >>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown is
>an
>> >>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually listen
>to
>> >>the
>> >>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
>deeply
>> >>into
>> >>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
>> >>   >
>> >>   >Love
>> >>   >Sha
>> >>   >
>> >>   >----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
>> >>   >To:
>> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
>> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   >
>> >>   >
>> >>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW of
>> >>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
> at 
>> >>the
>> >>   >weather at that time.
>> >>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
>> >>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
>> >>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of injuries
>> >>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck they
>get
>> >>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
>> >>   >
>> >>   >
>> >>   >
>> >>   >Cheers
>> >>   >Brian
>> >>   >----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > at : "Ken Ring"
>> >>   >To:
>> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
>> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   >
>> >>   >
>> >>   > > Andrew wrote
>> >>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
>> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>> >>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is,
>how
>> >>many
>> >>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
>> >>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
>> >>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
>perigee
>> >>   > > correlates with
>> >>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
>> >>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
>> >>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot with
>10
>> >>years
>> >>   > > experience,
>> >>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
>> >>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
>> >>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
>> >>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
>> >>   > > etc etc
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > Brian wrote
>> >>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
>> >>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so moon
>> >>events
>> >>   > > that
>> >>   > > > occur every month.
>> >>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon events
>per
>> >>month,
>> >>   > > only 8.
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > Jane wrote
>> >>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near the
>> >>area.
>> >>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th. Cora
>was
>> >>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the 60knot
>> >>winds and
>> >>   >6m
>> >>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible connection?
>> >>Surely..
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > Steven wrote
>> >>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth quakes
>or
>> >>just
>> >>   > > some?
>> >>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
>> >>earthquakes.
>> >>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag 5.
>> >>Weather
>> >>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
>daily,
>> >>not
>> >>   >just
>> >>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides - daily,
>in
>> >>water,
>> >>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
>obviously
>> >>we
>> >>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
>Neither
>> >>can we
>> >>   > > disprove it.
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > cheers
>> >>   > > Ken
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
>> >>   > > To:
>> >>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
>> >>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > >
>> >>   > > > Ken
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
>> >>pressure.
>> >>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
>> >>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
>weather.
>> >>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point of
>> >>making
>> >>   > > things
>> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
>e-mails.
>> >>And
>> >>   >take
>> >>   > > > it in.
>> >>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you have
>> >>crossed
>> >>   >the
>> >>   > > > line
>> >>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > Andrew
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>> >>   > > > To:
>> >>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
>> >>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > >
>> >>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to
>have
>> >>   >occurred
>> >>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
>> >>   > > > >
>> >>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
>> >>   > > > > To:
>> >>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
>> >>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   > > > >
>> >>   > > > >
>> >>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
>still
>> >>2
>> >>   >days
>> >>   > > > away
>> >>   > > > > > SO!
>> >>   > > > > > Cheers
>> >>   > > > > > Brian
>> >>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
>> >>   > > > > > To:
>> >>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
>> >>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
>> >>   > > > > >
>> >>   > > > > >
>> >>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
>> >>Perigee (2nd
>> >>   > > > > closest
>> >>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus lunar
>> >>equinox on
>> >>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly deeper
>> >>high when
>> >>   > > the
>> >>   > > > > > moon
>> >>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent. Winds
>and
>> >>rain
>> >>   > > are
>> >>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
>> >>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the full
>moon
>> >>to be
>> >>   > > > clear
>> >>   > > > > > in
>> >>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am on
>> >>Thursday
>> >>   > > > > morning,
>> >>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
>> >>   > > > > > > cheers
>> >>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
>> >>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
>> >>   > > > > > >
>> >>   >
>> >>   >
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Bussy,
I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at Sydney 
in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a series of 
Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern. Your area 
would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in my 
records..if I can find them!
Gavin SSWW Canberra






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>I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
>barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
>high????
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G'day,

I have been editing some of Michael's footage and have taken the 
opportunity to add some stills of this impressive beast:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm

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Jimmy, I have just thoroughly enjoyed going through this report and 
watching the videos yet again.
I suppose I would have witnessed no more than four or five or maybe half 
a dozen of these "mothership" storms in my 56 years.
How frequently does this mothership cloud shape occur?
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> G'day,
> 
> I have been editing some of Michael's footage and have taken the 
> opportunity to add some stills of this impressive beast:
> 
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.ht
> m
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Hi Bussy,

It seems that the AWS station near you did not get to 1036hPa which is
Wangaratta I checked out....Only managed to get to 1032hPa. I think there is
something wrong with your barometer, you need to correct the adjustment of
the barometer.

 at  Nathan.

PS For my wx station, I only managed to get to 1032hPa here in Adelaide few
days ago.

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> I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
> barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
> high????
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Thank you Jacob, I respect that. Comments like "pure garbage" etc are not
respectful and eventually build into slanging and unpleasantness. If we keep
calm and polite heads we can end up with an interesting, lively forum.
Gentle controversy has to be better than perfect consensus. This forum is
still the best one around, and well worth working to preserve.
cheers
Ken

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>
> When its to do with earthquakes, its probably better not too, as it is
> off-topic.
>
> If its about the moon and weather combined I cant really stop you, as
> you're right, it is still weather related even though it hasn't been
proven
> that the moon and the weather have much in common.
>
> But I would just like to say that all the past threads on this issue has
> always ended up in huge arguments between list members, and I dont see how
> that can benefit anyone, so its probably best that we try to avoid it if
> possible. I think everyone just needs to respect each other whenever this
> controversial issue is discussed again.
>
> Jacob
>
>
>
> At 08:44 PM 18/04/2003 +1200, you wrote:
> >I thoroughly agree. Anyone who wants to continue to discuss this or any
> >other weather-related topic can email me privately.
> >
> >> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
> >Your comment worries me, Jacob. Does that mean I cannot respond to
anything
> >anymore  at  a lunar point of view? It seems that there are quite a few
on
> >this list who actually do find some of my ideas agreeable. The detractors
> >seem to be few in number but more vocal. It would be a sad day if you
were
> >to censor out weather discussion that emanated  at  a different
> >philosophical standpoint.
> >cheers
> >Ken
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > at : "Jacob" <jacob at iinet.net.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 3:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
> >(weather) Information?)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Yes, we have gone through this topic again and again. Lets stop it
before
> >> it gets out of hand once again. Earthquakes are not fully on topic, and
> >the
> >> moon weather has been said so many times before and responded too.
> >>
> >> Jacob and Dave (List owners)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> At 12:07 PM 18/04/2003 +0930, you wrote:
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >I will have to agreed with Paul, everyone please make attention and
> >listen
> >> >to me: This is not a aus-wx forum place for argueing, fighting like a
war
> >at
> >> >each other. This is a weather topic that we email an interest of
weather
> >> >like when, what, where, whats happening in the past or at the present.
I
> >> >will not be tolerated with anyone who glued to argue with Ken Ring
like
> >> >that. I rather think it would be better off for you to chill off and
> >leave
> >> >him alone on aus-wx, then problem will go away. It is up to him what
he
> >want
> >> >to do in forecast as in moon. And else of us are up to us to use model
> >> >forecast or BoM forecast. But it would be good to be with moon
forecast
> >to
> >> >judge with. BUT! Please don't argue about it. If you want to, then
take a
> >> >private message then. Not in this whole main aus-wx email group. I am
> >sure
> >> >Jacob will fix it up soon. Anyway. I better sign off the email and
back
> >to
> >> >relax for public holiday today and be happy.
> >> >
> >> >I hope I appreciated your way to listen to us me and Paul and Jacob.
> >Anyway.
> >> >Happy Easter everyone by the way.
> >> > at  Nathan.
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> > at : "Paul Yole" <pyole78 at yahoo.com.au>
> >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >> >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:54 AM
> >> >Subject: aus-wx: Enough is Enough (was Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for
> >> >(weather) Information?)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hey All,
> >> >
> >> >I'm sure I'm not alone when I say...enough is enough of this pathetic
ass
> >> >bickering. Ken's methods must be respected. Sure, I may not personally
> >agree
> >> >with his theory (no offence Ken), but he IS allowed to voice his
> >theories,
> >> >without having the sh*t picked out of him for it. I, along as with
> >others,
> >> >am getting plain sick of it. If you don't agree with Ken, then take it
to
> >> >private email...not public please, unless it IS related to weather,
and
> >not
> >> >personal attacking. This comparing Ken to the Iraqi information
Minister
> >is
> >> >just childish and doesn't belong on a weather list!!!
> >> >
> >> >PaulY
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> > at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> >> >[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Michael
James
> >> >Wright
> >> >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:11 PM
> >> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >> >Information?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Could please don't talk about the war, i don't want to here and my
father
> >> >dose not waant to here it Thnx's ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> >> >>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >> >>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
> >Information?
> >> >>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:39:10 +1200
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at  the
> >BoM,
> >> >>he disappears  at  the competition.
> >> >>I explained why at the time. The other party has his wages paid for
by
> >the
> >> >>Australian taxpayer. I don't. The considerable time it would take me
to
> >do
> >> >>the comparison properly would come out of my own pocket but not his.
> >That
> >> >>makes for an unequal competition. I would be most happy to take part
if
> >> >>you, Michael, made up my equivalent wages. But I bet you will
disappear
> >> >> at  that request quicker than the Minister into the Iraqi desert..
> >> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>    at : michael king
> >> >>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >>   Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 10:09 AM
> >> >>   Subject: aus-wx: Is Ken the Iraqi Minister for (weather)
Information?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   Sha
> >> >>
> >> >>   I and others will continue to send posts counter to Ken, as long
as
> >Ken
> >> >>ignores the scientific method and its inherent principles.  And when
Ken
> >> >>gets his facts wrong, it's incumbent upon people who believe that the
> >truth
> >> >>is still important, to correct him.
> >> >>
> >> >>   Having read this latest farrago of speculation  at  Ken, I am now
> >> >>totally convinced that he's in cahoots with the former Iraqi
information
> >> >>Minister.
> >> >>
> >> >>   Such a range of Moon events!  (6 - 8 per month according the
Weather
> >> >>information Minister)
> >> >>
> >> >>   Such a range of time around these moon events when they can
influence
> >> >>such a range of phenomena!  (2 - 4 days either way, give or take -
"We
> >will
> >> >>crush these stupid criminal Americans!")
> >> >>
> >> >>   And over such a distance across the country or globe! (Oh we still
> >> >>remember the rainfall event at Marla that was ascribed to Alice
> >Springs -
> >> >>memories!).
> >> >>
> >> >>   And given the chance to pit his techniques against someone  at 
the
> >BoM,
> >> >>he disappears  at  the competition quicker than the aforementioned
> >Minister
> >> >>into the Iraqi desert.
> >> >>
> >> >>   With respect, but not love
> >> >>
> >> >>   Michael
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>   > at : "Sha"
> >> >>   >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >> >>   >To:
> >> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 22:58:10 +1000
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >.............. and there are none so blind as those who don't
want
> >to
> >> >>see
> >> >>   >!!!!
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >I don't post here any more, although I read some of the mail
still -
> >> >>because
> >> >>   >of my interest in weather and the earth's environment. I
appreciate
> >> >>Ken's
> >> >>   >statements as regards the influence of the moon, so maybe I am
> >biased,
> >> >>but
> >> >>   >just because opinions differ, as most here do against Ken's
> >> >>philosophies, it
> >> >>   >shouldn't mean they have the right to put another person's
opinions
> >> >>down and
> >> >>   >call them rubbish. I often wonder when people will learn the
ability
> >to
> >> >>get
> >> >>   >along and not always argue and degrade others.
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >I align this sort of nonsense with what happened in Noah's time,
as
> >> >>well,
> >> >>   >I'm sure, as other times in history. Time and again the people
were
> >> >>given
> >> >>   >signs, but none wanted to hear ....... until it was too late !
Right
> >> >>now
> >> >>   >the earth is changing - the weather is changing - there are many
> >more
> >> >>large
> >> >>   >earthquakes - there are quite a number of active volcanoes, etc.
> >Those
> >> >>who
> >> >>   >don't want to take notice of anything away  at  their own thought
> >> >>patterns
> >> >>   >speak of *coincidences*. But I don't believe there are any
> >coincidences
> >> >>   >....... everything has a reason. As far as I understand, nobody
can
> >> >>ever
> >> >>   >have all the knowledge there is to have. Delving into the unknown
is
> >an
> >> >>   >important aspect of science. It is so dreary to continually
listen
> >to
> >> >>the
> >> >>   >rubbishing statements that prevail here instead of looking more
> >deeply
> >> >>into
> >> >>   >aspects of the weather that are a little out of the ordinary !!
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >Love
> >> >>   >Sha
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >> >>   >To:
> >> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:06 PM
> >> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >the big seas was  at  a vigourous depression to the south and SW
of
> >> >>   >australia 3 days before that person was washed off the rocks, not
> > at 
> >> >>the
> >> >>   >weather at that time.
> >> >>   >i.e big swells run for a long time after a low has passed/peaked.
> >> >>   >China gets large earthquakes, nothing new there.
> >> >>   >Hang gliders: its a dangerrous sport, and I know of lots of
injuries
> >> >>   >Gales: well, if you are talking about the fiordland area, heck
they
> >get
> >> >>   >gales every other day there. Thats normal weather for there
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >Cheers
> >> >>   >Brian
> >> >>   >----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > at : "Ken Ring"
> >> >>   >To:
> >> >>   >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 8:53 PM
> >> >>   >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   >
> >> >>   > > Andrew wrote
> >> >>   > > > you express your self to the point of making things
> >> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >> >>   > > Fair comment, if that is how you perceive it. The question is,
> >how
> >> >>many
> >> >>   > > coincidences does there have to be between high
> >> >>seas/earthquakes/cyclones
> >> >>   > > and perigees before some notice is taken? This current April
> >perigee
> >> >>   > > correlates with
> >> >>   > > 1. huge seas off Tasmania resulting in loss of life,
> >> >>   > > 2. Two big earthquakes >6mag in China,
> >> >>   > > 3. A hang-glider accident today in Dunedin involving a pilot
with
> >10
> >> >>years
> >> >>   > > experience,
> >> >>   > > 4. Typhoon Kujira
> >> >>   > > 5. Big rains in Tamworth and Bedourie
> >> >>   > > 6. Gales in some parts of NZ
> >> >>   > > 7. Best April rainfall since 1990 in SW Australia
> >> >>   > > etc etc
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > Brian wrote
> >> >>   > > > earthqaukes occur all the time around the planet, and at
> >> >>   > > > least 1 every now and then will coincide with the 50 or so
moon
> >> >>events
> >> >>   > > that
> >> >>   > > > occur every month.
> >> >>   > > That's news to me. I am not aware of 50 significant moon
events
> >per
> >> >>month,
> >> >>   > > only 8.
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > Jane wrote
> >> >>   > > > We're talking about Bass Strait. TC Cora was nowhere near
the
> >> >>area.
> >> >>   > > No, but the perigee was December 31st. Tragedy was 28/29th.
Cora
> >was
> >> >>   > > around..Xmas? Only a couple of days before. For sure the
60knot
> >> >>winds and
> >> >>   >6m
> >> >>   > > swell were in Bass Strait. Are you saying no possible
connection?
> >> >>Surely..
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > Steven wrote
> >> >>   > > > Earthquakes occur daily. Does the moon cause all earth
quakes
> >or
> >> >>just
> >> >>   > > some?
> >> >>   > > I'm saying that in my opinion the moon controls weather and
> >> >>earthquakes.
> >> >>   > > Yes, earthquakes do occur daily, yet seldom are they over mag
5.
> >> >>Weather
> >> >>   > > also occurs daily, yet seldom is it extreme. So it has to be
> >daily,
> >> >>not
> >> >>   >just
> >> >>   > > events that capture headlines. The moon controls tides -
daily,
> >in
> >> >>water,
> >> >>   > > land and in air. So yes, the moon triggers them all, but
> >obviously
> >> >>we
> >> >>   > > haven't come up with the technology yet to prove all of it.
> >Neither
> >> >>can we
> >> >>   > > disprove it.
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > cheers
> >> >>   > > Ken
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > >  at : "Andrew Maben"
> >> >>   > > To:
> >> >>   > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 7:01 PM
> >> >>   > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > >
> >> >>   > > > Ken
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Would the moon pull the tectonic plates apart to relieve the
> >> >>pressure.
> >> >>   > > > And there would be no earth quake.????
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Ken I think that you may read to much into the moon.
> >> >>   > > > I think that the moon has influence on our planet and its
> >weather.
> >> >>   > > > But I personal feel that you express your self to the point
of
> >> >>making
> >> >>   > > things
> >> >>   > > > to fit any given situation.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > I have been on this group for 2 + years , I read all you
> >e-mails.
> >> >>And
> >> >>   >take
> >> >>   > > > it in.
> >> >>   > > > Its my choosing to read your e-mails but I feel that you
have
> >> >>crossed
> >> >>   >the
> >> >>   > > > line
> >> >>   > > > with the earth quake thing.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Keep posting but keep it real.
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > Andrew
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >> >>   > > > To:
> >> >>   > > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4:04 PM
> >> >>   > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > >
> >> >>   > > > > Big earthquake in Qinghai, China today. 6.6 mag. Seems to
> >have
> >> >>   >occurred
> >> >>   > > > > exactly at moonset.
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > > > >  at : "Brian Hamilton"
> >> >>   > > > > To:
> >> >>   > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:03 PM
> >> >>   > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > > this TC has been around for a few days, and full moon is
> >still
> >> >>2
> >> >>   >days
> >> >>   > > > away
> >> >>   > > > > > SO!
> >> >>   > > > > > Cheers
> >> >>   > > > > > Brian
> >> >>   > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>   > > > > >  at : "Ken Ring"
> >> >>   > > > > > To:
> >> >>   > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:52 PM
> >> >>   > > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon effects
> >> >>   > > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > >
> >> >>   > > > > > > Well, the moon is at a significant position just now.
> >> >>Perigee (2nd
> >> >>   > > > > closest
> >> >>   > > > > > > for 2003)and full moon together on Thursday, plus
lunar
> >> >>equinox on
> >> >>   > > > > > > Wednesday. The airtide will be at a significantly
deeper
> >> >>high when
> >> >>   > > the
> >> >>   > > > > > moon
> >> >>   > > > > > > is in the sky and at deeper low when it is absent.
Winds
> >and
> >> >>rain
> >> >>   > > are
> >> >>   > > > > > > certainly to be expected, especially around moonrise.
> >> >>   > > > > > > As usual though, I would expect the evening of the
full
> >moon
> >> >>to be
> >> >>   > > > clear
> >> >>   > > > > > in
> >> >>   > > > > > > most areas. For down here, full moon occurs at 7.34am
on
> >> >>Thursday
> >> >>   > > > > morning,
> >> >>   > > > > > > meaning the 16th is the closest evening to it.
> >> >>   > > > > > > cheers
> >> >>   > > > > > > Ken Ring
> >> >>   > > > > > > www.predictweather.com
> >> >>   > > > > > >
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Hi Phil,

Thanks for your kind comments and for taking the time to read these reports.

But one question, where about did you observe these 'mothership cloud 
shaped' clouds.

How often do they occur? Well one in....... who knows. If we went by your 
averages, 1 every 10 years if you remained in spot. But please note 
Mothership supercells we are talking about here. These are not 'striated 
squall lines'. That striated structured mass mainly in picture if you were 
able to get timelapse would be rotating cyclonically - I think perhaps some 
people did not understand that when reading the report.

In fact I would assume these are extremely rare in Australia.  at  viewing 
the video, the conditions at the time this was forming seemed to coincide: 
low LCL, reasonable low shear environment with good backing, high CAPE. And 
of course, something else such as an outflow boundary/convergence must have 
occurred to help create this so rapidly though lasted so brief in this 
formation. Michael, Dave and Rodney were quite privaleged to get this at 
its maximum intensity about this time as the storm quickly became outflow 
dominant imo and weakened as observed on radar. I hope the Bureau does a 
report on this event.

Anyway, great event guys. I enjoyed watching the video.

Jimmy Deguara

At 09:55 PM 18/4/2003 +0800, you wrote:
>Jimmy, I have just thoroughly enjoyed going through this report and
>watching the videos yet again.
>I suppose I would have witnessed no more than four or five or maybe half
>a dozen of these "mothership" storms in my 56 years.
>How frequently does this mothership cloud shape occur?
>Phil
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>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:28:02 +1000
>Subject: aus-wx: Added some stills to HP mothership report
>
> > G'day,
> >
> > I have been editing some of Michael's footage and have taken the
> > opportunity to add some stills of this impressive beast:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.ht
> > m
> >
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There was one that crossed Morwell, Vic. well after dark one night in 
early seventies.  All who saw it described it as being like a 
giant "flying saucer".  It was rotating quite rapidly and was lit  at  
below by the vast amounts of electric lighting associated with the SEC 
installations in the Latrobe Valley and  at  within by what would have 
to be the most continuous CC lightning I have ever seen.  There was no 
possibility of counting the seconds between the lightning and the 
thunder; it rumbled continuously just as the lightning flashed 
continuously.  When the rain and hail came, it became impossible to see 
its shape any more.  I suppose I saw its mothership shape for only about 
ten minutes.  Hundreds of cars were damaged by hail and tiles were 
broken on hundreds of roofs.

I saw another a few miles West of Fitzroy Crossing, WA just before dark 
on Tuesday 2nd Nov 1982.  It was also rotating and full of continuous 
lightning.  As there was no artificial lighting about it became more 
difficult to see its shape as darkness came on and it was soon 
obliterated by the rain and the whole area became flooded.  I did not 
experience hail, but then the "mothership" had been well to the side of 
the Highway 1 on which I was driving.

I remember at least two "motherships" crossing Terang, Vic sometime 
between 1950 and 1960 - they also were giant rotating storms.  And they 
were also characterised by continuous rolling thunder.  At that age I 
knew nothing of terms like "supercell" and just enjoyed them as splendid 
displays of the power of nature.

In Texas or Oklahoma in about mid-1978 in an early to mid afternoon, I 
saw the edge of a structure like this, but did not observe whether it 
was one self-contained mothership storm or not nor did I observe whether 
it was rotating.  There was too much thunderstorm activity going on all 
around at once, there was an official tornado warning current,  and I 
was trying to ride a motorbike through it all without getting too 
drenched or blown away.  I had a dodgy headlight and needed to get to 
Kansas before dark, so stopping to watch the storms was not an option.

Another unrelated but incredibly unusual thunderstorm was one that 
looked like a giant roller in the sky at Terang in 1955.  Thunderstorms 
on those Western Victorian rolling plains normally moved generally in a 
direction  at  West to East, but this strange structure came  at  the 
South and rolled across the sky towards the North.  The day had been 
very thundery when we heard a distinct roaring noise approaching  at  
the South and ran out into the back yard for a look.  This rapidly 
rotating roller of cloud crossed the town quite rapidly and soon 
disappeared beyond the hills.  It was very low and very noisy.  If you 
can imagine a cloud-filled tornado that was horizontal instead of 
vertical, you may have some idea of what it looked and sounded like.  
Its horizontal rotation was very fast indeed.  I had never seen anything 
like it before and have never seen anything like it since (apart  at  
regular vertical cloud to ground tornados of course).  The newspaper of 
the day (a weekly called the "Terang Express" if I remember correctly) 
described it as a "Morning Glory in the afternoon".  At the same time 
there was a lot of cumulonimbus around and other thunderstorms were 
active in the area.  This structure was a roller of cloud that was 
distinctly separate below the thunderstorm that was above it.  I could 
not see to the ends of the roller to see what was there, but I also 
can't remember whether or not I looked.  I was only about nine years old.

Phil
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-----Original Message-----
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To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 06:57:42 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Added some stills to HP mothership report

> Hi Phil,
> 
> Thanks for your kind comments and for taking the time to read these
> reports.
> 
> But one question, where about did you observe these 'mothership cloud 
> shaped' clouds.
> 
> How often do they occur? Well one in....... who knows. If we went by
> your 
> averages, 1 every 10 years if you remained in spot. But please note 
> Mothership supercells we are talking about here. These are not
> 'striated 
> squall lines'. That striated structured mass mainly in picture if you
> were 
> able to get timelapse would be rotating cyclonically - I think perhaps
> some 
> people did not understand that when reading the report.
> 
> In fact I would assume these are extremely rare in Australia.  at 
> viewing 
> the video, the conditions at the time this was forming seemed to
> coincide: 
> low LCL, reasonable low shear environment with good backing, high CAPE.
> And 
> of course, something else such as an outflow boundary/convergence must
> have 
> occurred to help create this so rapidly though lasted so brief in this 
> formation. Michael, Dave and Rodney were quite privaleged to get this
> at 
> its maximum intensity about this time as the storm quickly became
> outflow 
> dominant imo and weakened as observed on radar. I hope the Bureau does
> a 
> report on this event.
> 
> Anyway, great event guys. I enjoyed watching the video.
> 
> Jimmy Deguara
> 
> At 09:55 PM 18/4/2003 +0800, you wrote:
> >Jimmy, I have just thoroughly enjoyed going through this report and
> >watching the videos yet again.
> >I suppose I would have witnessed no more than four or five or maybe
> half
> >a dozen of these "mothership" storms in my 56 years.
> >How frequently does this mothership cloud shape occur?
> >Phil
> ><><
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> >Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
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> >To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:28:02 +1000
> >Subject: aus-wx: Added some stills to HP mothership report
> >
> > > G'day,
> > >
> > > I have been editing some of Michael's footage and have taken the
> > > opportunity to add some stills of this impressive beast:
> > >
> > >
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.ht
> > > m
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------
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> > >
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Best check it out. Thanks all. As possibly all over Australia, nothing
happening here other than it is magnificent to see a green tinge back on the
ground instead of a dustbowl as it has been.

> Hi Bussy,
>
> It seems that the AWS station near you did not get to 1036hPa which is
> Wangaratta I checked out....Only managed to get to 1032hPa. I think there
is
> something wrong with your barometer, you need to correct the adjustment of
> the barometer.
>
> > at  Nathan.
>
> PS For my wx station, I only managed to get to 1032hPa here in Adelaide
few
> days ago.


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Hi Gavin, Bussy et al..

Gavin's recollections clearly go back further than mine..:))

But I still have an old synoptic chart  at  1973 I think that has an 
analysed 1044 circle on it (Tasmania I think).

So...Ockham's razor being what it is...I suspect pressures of near 1050 have 
probably been recorded at some southern stations in Australia.

Cheers,
Kevin  at  Wycheproof.





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>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 23:12:53 +1000
>
>Bussy,
>I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at Sydney 
>in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a series of 
>Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern. Your area 
>would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in my 
>records..if I can find them!
>Gavin SSWW Canberra
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>>Subject: aus-wx: High barometer reading
>>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:35:46 +1000
>>
>>I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
>>barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
>>high????
>>
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HI Bussy et list,

I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for the
last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
protocol" enabled?

Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
against the surrounding baros.

Cheers!

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Hi Ken and list,

I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the wet
season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm fall in 2
months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is significant.

Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were you
referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)

Cheers,
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> HI Bussy et list,
>
> I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for the
> last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
> protocol" enabled?
>
> Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> against the surrounding baros.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Paul.
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Hi Paul
I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I think
Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am aware
that Darwin does..
cheers
Ken Ring
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> Hi Ken and list,
>
> I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the wet
> season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm fall in 2
> months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is significant.
>
> Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were you
> referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
>
> Cheers,
> Paul Mossman
> NT State ASWA Rep
> Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
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>
>
> > HI Bussy et list,
> >
> > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for the
> > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
> > protocol" enabled?
> >
> > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> > against the surrounding baros.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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We've had problems  at  Richard email address for a while now. Usually all
forward emails would work. For some reason the world.std.com doesn't
reconise his address and rejects it automatically. The administrators dont
even see it as a bounced message, the world.std.com are still trying to
work out the problem.

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At 12:49 PM 20/04/2003 +0930, you wrote:
>HI Bussy et list,
>
>I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for the
>last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
>protocol" enabled?
>
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>
>Cheers!
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Hi Ken,

The thought of significant rain brings a certain "stiffness" however I shall
wait and see......

This will bring an interesting test!

Rgds,
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> Hi Paul
> I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I think
> Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am aware
> that Darwin does..
> cheers
> Ken Ring
> www.predictweather.com
>
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>
>
> > Hi Ken and list,
> >
> > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the wet
> > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm fall in
2
> > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is significant.
> >
> > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were you
> > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul Mossman
> > NT State ASWA Rep
> > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
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> > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
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> >
> >
> > > HI Bussy et list,
> > >
> > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for
the
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> > > protocol" enabled?
> > >
> > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> > > against the surrounding baros.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
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How do I find out what to set it on? I can see Wangaratta or Wodonga's but
how could I set mine properly here? Thanks all in advance, and to all those
who have responded. I think its an altitude thing or something isn't it?
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> HI Bussy et list,
>
> I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for the
> last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
> protocol" enabled?
>
> Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> against the surrounding baros.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Paul.
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Most stations record sea level pressure (or more correctly record station
level pressure and convert it or calibrate to sea level pressure).
Here I set the 7 day barograph to sea level though I am 83 metres above sea
level. It helps with the synoptic pattern which of course is sea level.
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> How do I find out what to set it on? I can see Wangaratta or Wodonga's but
> how could I set mine properly here? Thanks all in advance, and to all
those
> who have responded. I think its an altitude thing or something isn't it?
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>
>
> > HI Bussy et list,
> >
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> >
> > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> > against the surrounding baros.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
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I think we have had this discussion before but me being a "I forget", asks
again.
My daughter has asked,"Why does the moon look so much bigger when it first
shows up at night"?
My response as only I can. It's so dark that the moon needs to be bigger to
put more light on us!
Even my kids aren't that gullible, but it got a laugh (as intended).
Seriously though. Why is it? In very easy to understand terms for young
kids. Thanks.
Maybe we should try to give all our answers in a "kid" version. Seriously.
They are the ones that need to know!

20 rabbits were jumping backwards on my lawn this morning. On closer
observation I saw that I had a receding hare line...............

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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:43:40 +0800
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Someone told me, but I never checked it out myself (even though I was 
once a surveyor), that the angular width of the moon was the same at the 
horizon as it was at zenith.  Therefore the apparent large size is an 
optical illusion caused by the proximity to objects on or near the 
horizon.
There is however a slight distortion when it is very close to the 
horizon, when it appears oval in shape (wider than it is tall) which is 
due to some sort of refraction.

Phil
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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:48:34 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Why?

> I think we have had this discussion before but me being a "I forget",
> asks
> again.
> My daughter has asked,"Why does the moon look so much bigger when it
> first
> shows up at night"?
> My response as only I can. It's so dark that the moon needs to be
> bigger to
> put more light on us!
> Even my kids aren't that gullible, but it got a laugh (as intended).
> Seriously though. Why is it? In very easy to understand terms for young
> kids. Thanks.
> Maybe we should try to give all our answers in a "kid" version.
> Seriously.
> They are the ones that need to know!
> 
> 20 rabbits were jumping backwards on my lawn this morning. On closer
> observation I saw that I had a receding hare line...............
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Can't help you with the Question, But that is a damn funny joke at the
bottom!!!


Simon


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> I think we have had this discussion before but me being a "I forget", asks
> again.
> My daughter has asked,"Why does the moon look so much bigger when it first
> shows up at night"?
> My response as only I can. It's so dark that the moon needs to be bigger
to
> put more light on us!
> Even my kids aren't that gullible, but it got a laugh (as intended).
> Seriously though. Why is it? In very easy to understand terms for young
> kids. Thanks.
> Maybe we should try to give all our answers in a "kid" version. Seriously.
> They are the ones that need to know!
>
> 20 rabbits were jumping backwards on my lawn this morning. On closer
> observation I saw that I had a receding hare line...............
>
> Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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I totally agree with Phil. Ptolemy was the first to describe it. Researchers
did a series of experiments using prismatic eyeglasses which proved it was
an illusion. The results which were written up in Scientific American, being
the cover story of issue July 1962.
Ken

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Why?


> Someone told me, but I never checked it out myself (even though I was
> once a surveyor), that the angular width of the moon was the same at the
> horizon as it was at zenith.  Therefore the apparent large size is an
> optical illusion caused by the proximity to objects on or near the
> horizon.
> There is however a slight distortion when it is very close to the
> horizon, when it appears oval in shape (wider than it is tall) which is
> due to some sort of refraction.
>
> Phil
> <><
>
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> Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> To: "aussie-weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 20:48:34 +1000
> Subject: aus-wx: Why?
>
> > I think we have had this discussion before but me being a "I forget",
> > asks
> > again.
> > My daughter has asked,"Why does the moon look so much bigger when it
> > first
> > shows up at night"?
> > My response as only I can. It's so dark that the moon needs to be
> > bigger to
> > put more light on us!
> > Even my kids aren't that gullible, but it got a laugh (as intended).
> > Seriously though. Why is it? In very easy to understand terms for young
> > kids. Thanks.
> > Maybe we should try to give all our answers in a "kid" version.
> > Seriously.
> > They are the ones that need to know!
> >
> > 20 rabbits were jumping backwards on my lawn this morning. On closer
> > observation I saw that I had a receding hare line...............
> >
> > Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance of
any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.

Will the moon win? Stay tuned....


Paul Mossman
NT State ASWA Rep
Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?


> Hi Paul
> I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I think
> Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am aware
> that Darwin does..
> cheers
> Ken Ring
> www.predictweather.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
>
>
> > Hi Ken and list,
> >
> > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the wet
> > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm fall in
2
> > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is significant.
> >
> > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were you
> > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul Mossman
> > NT State ASWA Rep
> > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> >
> >
> > > HI Bussy et list,
> > >
> > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for
the
> > > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
> > > protocol" enabled?
> > >
> > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too high
> > > against the surrounding baros.
> > >
> > > Cheers!
> > >
> > > Paul.
> > >
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Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If this
was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further back.
But this one will be interesting..  :)
Ken

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?


> Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance of
> any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
>
> Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
>
>
> Paul Mossman
> NT State ASWA Rep
> Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
> ICQ: 111144666
> Mobile: 0401115483
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
>
>
> > Hi Paul
> > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I think
> > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
aware
> > that Darwin does..
> > cheers
> > Ken Ring
> > www.predictweather.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Ken and list,
> > >
> > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the wet
> > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm fall
in
> 2
> > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is significant.
> > >
> > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were
you
> > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paul Mossman
> > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> > > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
> > > ICQ: 111144666
> > > Mobile: 0401115483
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> > >
> > >
> > > > HI Bussy et list,
> > > >
> > > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email for
> the
> > > > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no forward
> > > > protocol" enabled?
> > > >
> > > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too
high
> > > > against the surrounding baros.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > >
> > > > Paul.
> > > >
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Well Ken,

I am hoping that YOU are right! I'd love a significant fall or 5....


Paul
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?


> Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
> Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If
this
> was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further back.
> But this one will be interesting..  :)
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
>
>
> > Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance
of
> > any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
> >
> > Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
> >
> >
> > Paul Mossman
> > NT State ASWA Rep
> > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
> > ICQ: 111144666
> > Mobile: 0401115483
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Paul
> > > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I
think
> > > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
> aware
> > > that Darwin does..
> > > cheers
> > > Ken Ring
> > > www.predictweather.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Ken and list,
> > > >
> > > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the
wet
> > > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm
fall
> in
> > 2
> > > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is
significant.
> > > >
> > > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons. Were
> you
> > > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Paul Mossman
> > > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > > > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> > > > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
> > > > ICQ: 111144666
> > > > Mobile: 0401115483
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > HI Bussy et list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email
for
> > the
> > > > > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no
forward
> > > > > protocol" enabled?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is too
> high
> > > > > against the surrounding baros.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers!
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul.
> > > > >
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HI all,

Have been thinking about the moon v BoM & Scientist debate that has been
waning (umm sorry waging) for sometime. I know that there was an original
challenge establish that did not eventuate.

However, I would like to volunteer my services to collate such a challenge.

Suggestions are sought for different methods of verification, however the
sample forecasts could be:

72hrs
7 days
4 weeks
3 months

out, for say 3 sample cities either globally or localised. That would save
any claim of familiarity (as well know it breeds contempt....)

Thoughts. Lets test this baby and see what bathwater we can throwout? As
everyone knows I really don't swing either way atm :)

Rgds,
Paul
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?


> Well Ken,
>
> I am hoping that YOU are right! I'd love a significant fall or 5....
>
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
>
>
> > Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
> > Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If
> this
> > was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further
back.
> > But this one will be interesting..  :)
> > Ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance
> of
> > > any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
> > >
> > > Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Mossman
> > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
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> > > ICQ: 111144666
> > > Mobile: 0401115483
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > > > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I
> think
> > > > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > > > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
> > aware
> > > > that Darwin does..
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ken and list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the
> wet
> > > > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm
> fall
> > in
> > > 2
> > > > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is
> significant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons.
Were
> > you
> > > > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Paul Mossman
> > > > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
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> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI Bussy et list,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no
> forward
> > > > > > protocol" enabled?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is
too
> > high
> > > > > > against the surrounding baros.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul.
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> > > > > >
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to Bussy and Gavin...
The June 1967 event saw pressure peak at 1046 at Hobart - nothing over
1040 on the mainland.
However, low 1040s were reached across Victoria a few year back... will
try to find dates but maybe Blair's got computerised records which would
make finding them easier - I dont keeep pressure data.

Bottom line - 1036 is getting up there.

Cheers
Don White

Gavin O'Brien wrote:
> 
> Bussy,
> I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at Sydney
> in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a series of
> Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern. Your area
> would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in my
> records..if I can find them!
> Gavin SSWW Canberra
> 
> > at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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> >Subject: aus-wx: High barometer reading
> >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:35:46 +1000
> >
> >I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
> >barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
> >high????
> >
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The above day was fantastic for Macca and I succesfuly chasing a huge
Supercell  at  the Wollemi across the Lower Hunter. This was the cell that
produced a weak tornado over Branxton .

The report is still being compiled however I have managed to get a 12 second
clip in fast motion showing the rotation. This clip was taken as the storm
intensified moving off Brokenback Ridge into the Hunter. It really gives you
a great idea of how much rotation was evident in the beast especially in the
mid levels.


http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Video/03-09-03-rotatio
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1041hPa June 13, 2000 in southern Victoria

Jane

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> to Bussy and Gavin...
> The June 1967 event saw pressure peak at 1046 at Hobart - nothing over
> 1040 on the mainland.
> However, low 1040s were reached across Victoria a few year back...
will
> try to find dates but maybe Blair's got computerised records which
would
> make finding them easier - I dont keeep pressure data.
>
> Bottom line - 1036 is getting up there.
>
> Cheers
> Don White
>
> Gavin O'Brien wrote:
> >
> > Bussy,
> > I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at
Sydney
> > in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a
series of
> > Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern.
Your area
> > would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in
my
> > records..if I can find them!
> > Gavin SSWW Canberra
> >
> > > at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: "aussie-weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: aus-wx: High barometer reading
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:35:46 +1000
> > >
> > >I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the
highest
> > >barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be
quite
> > >high????
> > >
> > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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Thanks Don...It was a long time back and like rumours they tend to grow with 
time!Still it was similar to the current blocking pattern but so far this 
time no Low off SE Qld-No upper trough?
Gavin






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>
>to Bussy and Gavin...
>The June 1967 event saw pressure peak at 1046 at Hobart - nothing over
>1040 on the mainland.
>However, low 1040s were reached across Victoria a few year back... will
>try to find dates but maybe Blair's got computerised records which would
>make finding them easier - I dont keeep pressure data.
>
>Bottom line - 1036 is getting up there.
>
>Cheers
>Don White
>
>Gavin O'Brien wrote:
> >
> > Bussy,
> > I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at 
>Sydney
> > in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a series of
> > Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern. Your 
>area
> > would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in my
> > records..if I can find them!
> > Gavin SSWW Canberra
> >
> > > at : "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: "aussie-weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: aus-wx: High barometer reading
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:35:46 +1000
> > >
> > >I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the 
>highest
> > >barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be 
>quite
> > >high????
> > >
> > >Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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Hi Phil,
With the Typhoon currently just passing Luzon I normally acess PAGASA for 
local warning etc. but no luck this time.Can you or any other list member 
tell me if you can acess or is their site really off line? The storm has 
lived longer than expected..a sign for the coming season.
Gavin
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G'day Gavin and all,
PAGASA is working fine this morning.
Check out the links on my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm 
as they (PAGASA) keep changing their Internet addresses.
A lot of PAGASA information is presented in a far better format on Mike 
Padua's site (Typhoon2000).
Yes, 02W - Amang - Kujira is a very long-lived storm.
The laughable thing at the moment is the very wide discrepancy between 
where all the different agencies think it will go next,  If you want a 
really good belly laugh, go to my site and click on each of the links 
labelled "Map".  If you put the forecast tracks all on one map and hang 
a rim around it you'd be re-inventing the wheel!
HKO has it heading for HK, Mike Padua has it clobbering Taipei, JTWC has 
it headed for Okinawa, JMA just draws a bloody great circle and says it 
will be "somewhere in there", and WXHK has launched a contest asking 
people to vote for where they think it will go (fair dinkum - it's 
there - go look at the site!).
At this time of year I don't intend holding my breath until HKO hoists a 
Typhoon Signal, but you never know, they might just have got it right 
for once.

Phil
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Subject: aus-wx: PAGASA  Philippines Weather Bureau  web site down?

> Hi Phil,
> With the Typhoon currently just passing Luzon I normally acess PAGASA
> for 
> local warning etc. but no luck this time.Can you or any other list
> member 
> tell me if you can acess or is their site really off line? The storm
> has 
> lived longer than expected..a sign for the coming season.
> Gavin
> Canberra
> 
> 
> 
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Have just discovered this webcam pointing toward Moreton Island & North
Stradbroke Island - wish I'd found it in spring!!
http://members.optushome.com.au/sataskov/web_cam.htm

and there's 'talking weather'  at  Pumpkin Island off Yeppoon
http://www.cqnet.com.au/~user/mattk/www/pumpkin2.htm

Cheers,

Jane
--------------------------------
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Both are working great  at  Hong Kong.  Even made the IDD call  at  my 
mobile phone and heard all about the current weather on Pumpkin Island.  
Dunno what I'll ever do with the info though!

Phil
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> Have just discovered this webcam pointing toward Moreton Island & North
> Stradbroke Island - wish I'd found it in spring!!
> http://members.optushome.com.au/sataskov/web_cam.htm
> 
> and there's 'talking weather'  at  Pumpkin Island off Yeppoon
> http://www.cqnet.com.au/~user/mattk/www/pumpkin2.htm
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jane
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
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> 
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<P>How did you ever find these sites? Reading about the&nbsp;procedure of setting up the talking weather equipment was a real hoot.</P>
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I live on the south coast near Narooma and have put the weather up on the
net although not finished (see link in signature). I have ordered a 6-60 mm
zoom lens to do my web cam as I live one row of houses back  at  the beach
and have to look over the houses across the road etc. I can see  at  my
balcony the waves crashing onto the rocks etc and plan to mount the camera
up a gum tree in my front yard etc for a better viewing angle. Will let you
know when it is up and running. Hopefully it will say update every minute
but will also detect movement and update then as well.


As far as talking weather, I play/tinker with electronics and program both
micro processors and software. I am putting together a system so the local
boaties etc can get the weather etc as well as via my normal sms stuff. It
is done with a text to speech chip and not Microsofts SAPI. In other words,
you can use these to anounce lots of different things etc...

A recorded example for anyone interested is listed on the page
http://www.beach-bum-solutions.com/weather/radio.htm near the top.

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Have just discovered this webcam pointing toward Moreton Island & North
Stradbroke Island - wish I'd found it in spring!!
http://members.optushome.com.au/sataskov/web_cam.htm

and there's 'talking weather'  at  Pumpkin Island off Yeppoon
http://www.cqnet.com.au/~user/mattk/www/pumpkin2.htm

Cheers,

Jane
--------------------------------
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Australian Sky and Weather
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks for that Sue,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Could you just check that link for Me?</FONT></DIV>
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  <P>Hi all,</P>
  <P>Just a quick note to share with you an unusual tropical cyclone has formed 
  near Bermuda.</P>
  <P>Apparently this time of year the water is normally too cool to support such 
  activity so it is a rare event to have a tropical cyclone in the 
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The weather stations software looks familiar. Another one of yours Brian?

Cheers
Neville

> 
>  at : "Sue Altenhof" <sue_alt at hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 13:06:07 +1000
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> 
> 
> Hi Jane, 
> 
> How did you ever find these sites? Reading about the procedure of setting up
> the talking weather equipment was a real hoot.
> 
> Regards, Sue 
> 
>
> 
>>  at : "Jane ONeill"
>> Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>> To: 
>> Subject: aus-wx: Queensland webcam
>> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 11:10:44 +1000
>> 
>> Have just discovered this webcam pointing toward Moreton Island & North
>> Stradbroke Island - wish I'd found it in spring!!
>> http://members.optushome.com.au/sataskov/web_cam.htm
>> 
>> and there's 'talking weather'  at  Pumpkin Island off Yeppoon
>> http://www.cqnet.com.au/~user/mattk/www/pumpkin2.htm
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Jane 
>> --------------------------------
>> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>> cadence at australianskynweather.com
>> 
>> Australian Sky and Weather
>> www.stormchasers.au.com
>> 
>> ASWA - Victoria 
>> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>> 
>> ***The journey is the reward.***
>> --------------------------------
>> 

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Subject: aus-wx: ASWA Conference
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A page of images taken on the ASWA Conference weekend in 2002...if you
haven't been before, you should think about attending this year in August in
Sydney!!! They are fantastic weekends - great learning experiences, great
for catching up with old friends and for meeting people you've corresponded
with for possibly years but have never met!
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/agm2002.htm

If you're interested in going, keep an eye on the ASWA site
http://www.severeweather.asn.au for updates.

Cheers,

Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
cadence at australianskynweather.com

Australian Sky and Weather
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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 14:40:13 +0800
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I have a whole bunch of links for TS ANA gathered together on my site at 
http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm for those interested.
Generally all tropical cyclones that occur around the world are featured 
with appropriate links on this page.
My brother, Carl also mirrors these links at his site at 
http://users.qldnet.com.au/~carls/current.htm for those who prefer a 
server in Queensland.
Phil
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> Thanks for that Sue,
> Could you just check that link for Me?
> 
> Max
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>    at : Sue Altenhof 
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 4:47 AM
>   Subject: aus-wx: TC Ana
> 
> 
>   Hi all,
> 
>   Just a quick note to share with you an unusual tropical cyclone has
> formed near Bermuda.
> 
>   Apparently this time of year the water is normally too cool to
> support such activity so it is a rare event to have a tropical cyclone
> in the area.
> 
>   If interested, check out the link.
> 
>   Regards, Sue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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size=1>http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Video/03-09-03-rotation.mpg</FONT></A><BR><BR><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>I've also got some pictures scanned of the updraughts showing 
some impressive<BR>spiral structure as follows :<BR><BR></FONT><A 
href="http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/03-09-03-04.JPG"><FONT 
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face=Arial 
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href="http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/03-09-03-06.JPG"><FONT 
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face=Arial size=2>James<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR> at : 
"James Harris" &lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:jimboharr at hotmail.com"><FONT 
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size=2>&gt;<BR>Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 9:11 PM<BR>Subject: aus-wx: March 9 
2003 - Hunter Supercell<BR><BR><BR>&gt; The above day was fantastic for Macca 
and I succesfuly chasing a huge<BR>&gt; Supercell  at  the Wollemi across the 
Lower Hunter. This was the cell that<BR>&gt; produced a weak tornado over 
Branxton .<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; The report is still being compiled however I have 
managed to get a 12<BR>second<BR>&gt; clip in fast motion showing the rotation. 
This clip was taken as the storm<BR>&gt; intensified moving off Brokenback Ridge 
into the Hunter. It really gives<BR>you<BR>&gt; a great idea of how much 
rotation was evident in the beast especially in<BR>the<BR>&gt; mid 
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<P>Hi Max,</P>
<P>The link is <A href="http://www.hurricanealley.net">http://www.hurricanealley.net</A> <BR><BR>It covers various storms and extreme tropical weather. It's quite a good little site. I got a little excited and pressed the send button before putting the link in :)</P>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Thanks for that Sue, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Could you just check that link for Me? 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Hi all, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Just a quick note to share with you an unusual tropical cyclone has formed near Bermuda. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; Apparently this time of year the water is normally too cool to support such activity so it is a rare event to have a tropical cyclone in the area. 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; If interested, check out the link. 
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 at : "Phillip Basil-Jones" <pbones at datafast.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Small storm in Sydney
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mid-afternoon there was a enough instability to 
produce a small storm (lp&nbsp;looking)&nbsp;over the southerland 
area.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It looked allright, see url's for photos.&nbsp;Some 
lighting on tracker and had a nice rain shaft as it decayed.</FONT></DIV>
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 at : "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: March 9 2003 - Hunter Supercell
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<DIV><FONT size=2>James,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Well done!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>One of these days I'll learn how to do time lapse photography. 
Certainly shows a&nbsp;different world to the eye :)&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2>Regs, Paul.<BR>(Stargazer)<BR></FONT><A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:07 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: March 9 2003 - 
  Hunter Supercell</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hmmmm it sure is annoying when the link gets cut 
  off ! Just remember to add<BR>the n.mpg to the link or it wont work 
  .</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><A 
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  face=Arial 
  size=1>http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/Video/03-09-03-rotation.mpg</FONT></A><BR><BR><BR><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>I've also got some pictures scanned of the updraughts 
  showing some impressive<BR>spiral structure as follows :<BR><BR></FONT><A 
  href="http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/03-09-03-04.JPG"><FONT 
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 at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Yesterday was certainly a day when the surface chart alone 
gives no indication of the weather experienced.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We had similar 10m minute wonder cells in Wollongong too, 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mid-afternoon there was a enough instability to 
  produce a small storm (lp&nbsp;looking)&nbsp;over the southerland 
  area.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It looked allright, see url's for 
  photos.&nbsp;Some lighting on tracker and had a nice rain shaft as it 
  decayed.</FONT></DIV>
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 at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
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Well - no precip today as yet. Doesn't look promising either.

Cmon Moon.....

Paul Mossman

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> Well Ken,
>
> I am hoping that YOU are right! I'd love a significant fall or 5....
>
>
> Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
>
>
> > Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
> > Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If
> this
> > was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further
back.
> > But this one will be interesting..  :)
> > Ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance
> of
> > > any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
> > >
> > > Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Mossman
> > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
> > > MSN: ntstorms at hotmail.com
> > > ICQ: 111144666
> > > Mobile: 0401115483
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > > > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I
> think
> > > > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > > > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
> > aware
> > > > that Darwin does..
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ken and list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the
> wet
> > > > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm
> fall
> > in
> > > 2
> > > > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is
> significant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons.
Were
> > you
> > > > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Paul Mossman
> > > > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
> > > > > email: ntstorms at bigpond.com
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> > > > > Mobile: 0401115483
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >  at : "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 12:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: sorry
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > HI Bussy et list,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been trying to forward on Richard ( at  Naracoorte) email
> for
> > > the
> > > > > > last few days without success? Seems the list may have a "no
> forward
> > > > > > protocol" enabled?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway - Richard says your baro needs re-calibrating as it is
too
> > high
> > > > > > against the surrounding baros.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:24:48 +1000
 at : Anthony Cornelius <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
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Hi everyone!

Macca and I had been watching the cold pool originate SE of NSW and move
NNW with intent interest over the past few days.  Macca decided to
extend his trip in SE QLD for a few days with the cold pool progged to
move into NE NSW/SE QLD!  The LIs showed little potential for much of
the time, but the initial runs were incorrect with an underestimating of
the instability progged.  Anyway...with 500 temps below -20, and the
Moree sounding showing -21.5C  at  500mb this morning we were quite excited
about the potential!

We targeted the Downs area - as we crossed the ranges there was a nice
line of (low topped) storms off to our west along a NW/SE line.  We
stopped near Allora and watched for a little while.  The stuff to our
south didn't look to be doing much, but a cell to our north was looking
a little more interesting with some nice convection around it.

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS831.jpg

We pushed NNW into Toowoomba, at this stage it wasn't looking too bad at
all with a nice solid rain/hail shaft and a nice updraft base right
beside it!

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS839.jpg

We headed NW to Oakey and then sat just ahead of the storm for a while. 
It was quiet for a while, and we decided to drive through it for hail
(had some very large drops but the roads didn't go quite through the
core), but we had a rather spectacular CG strike about 1-1.5km away  at 
us which was quite exciting!  The storm began to get lightning active,
and we sat on the eastern side and watched occasional but powerful CGs
strike near the rain/hail core.

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS757.jpg

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS776.jpg

With the Sun setting just off centre behind the storm, it began to get a
little colour...

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/pan1.jpg

With some CGs/CCs striking underneath it still!

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS803.jpg

The most spectacular though was the setting Sun shining through the
rainshafts giving a spectacular sunset, including one beautiful CG at
sunset!  It was certainly beautiful to watch - only it was freezing
cold!  (14C and there were gusty winds and drizzle at this stage - Macca
thought he was back home in Melbourne!!)

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS795.jpg

http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS801.jpg

The lightning eased off for a bit, so we headed back to Toowoomba to get
some dinner and then see what was happening.  However most of the CG
activity seemed to have weakened by then, so we decided to make our way
back home, stopping just outside my place to watch some sheet lightning
every 10-15 seconds or so to my NW...wasn't a bad way to end the chase!

AC & Macca
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Hi Anthony & Macca
Great report !
It has been nice and cool lately. Last night I could see lightning to the 
south.
Sam





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>Subject: aus-wx: SE QLD Coldie Chase April 23
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 23:24:48 +1000
>
>Hi everyone!
>
>Macca and I had been watching the cold pool originate SE of NSW and move
>NNW with intent interest over the past few days.  Macca decided to
>extend his trip in SE QLD for a few days with the cold pool progged to
>move into NE NSW/SE QLD!  The LIs showed little potential for much of
>the time, but the initial runs were incorrect with an underestimating of
>the instability progged.  Anyway...with 500 temps below -20, and the
>Moree sounding showing -21.5C  at  500mb this morning we were quite excited
>about the potential!
>
>We targeted the Downs area - as we crossed the ranges there was a nice
>line of (low topped) storms off to our west along a NW/SE line.  We
>stopped near Allora and watched for a little while.  The stuff to our
>south didn't look to be doing much, but a cell to our north was looking
>a little more interesting with some nice convection around it.
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS831.jpg
>
>We pushed NNW into Toowoomba, at this stage it wasn't looking too bad at
>all with a nice solid rain/hail shaft and a nice updraft base right
>beside it!
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS839.jpg
>
>We headed NW to Oakey and then sat just ahead of the storm for a while.
>It was quiet for a while, and we decided to drive through it for hail
>(had some very large drops but the roads didn't go quite through the
>core), but we had a rather spectacular CG strike about 1-1.5km away  at 
>us which was quite exciting!  The storm began to get lightning active,
>and we sat on the eastern side and watched occasional but powerful CGs
>strike near the rain/hail core.
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS757.jpg
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS776.jpg
>
>With the Sun setting just off centre behind the storm, it began to get a
>little colour...
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/pan1.jpg
>
>With some CGs/CCs striking underneath it still!
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS803.jpg
>
>The most spectacular though was the setting Sun shining through the
>rainshafts giving a spectacular sunset, including one beautiful CG at
>sunset!  It was certainly beautiful to watch - only it was freezing
>cold!  (14C and there were gusty winds and drizzle at this stage - Macca
>thought he was back home in Melbourne!!)
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS795.jpg
>
>http://downunderchase.com/temp/April23/KS801.jpg
>
>The lightning eased off for a bit, so we headed back to Toowoomba to get
>some dinner and then see what was happening.  However most of the CG
>activity seemed to have weakened by then, so we decided to make our way
>back home, stopping just outside my place to watch some sheet lightning
>every 10-15 seconds or so to my NW...wasn't a bad way to end the chase!
>
>AC & Macca
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Thanks Phil, I agree with  you re Typhoon  track I will check  that. We are 
painting the room where  my computer\weather monitoring equipment is so may 
be off line most of today. will check tomorrow (Friday) for messages,
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>G'day Gavin and all,
>PAGASA is working fine this morning.
>Check out the links on my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>as they (PAGASA) keep changing their Internet addresses.
>A lot of PAGASA information is presented in a far better format on Mike
>Padua's site (Typhoon2000).
>Yes, 02W - Amang - Kujira is a very long-lived storm.
>The laughable thing at the moment is the very wide discrepancy between
>where all the different agencies think it will go next,  If you want a
>really good belly laugh, go to my site and click on each of the links
>labelled "Map".  If you put the forecast tracks all on one map and hang
>a rim around it you'd be re-inventing the wheel!
>HKO has it heading for HK, Mike Padua has it clobbering Taipei, JTWC has
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>will be "somewhere in there", and WXHK has launched a contest asking
>people to vote for where they think it will go (fair dinkum - it's
>there - go look at the site!).
>At this time of year I don't intend holding my breath until HKO hoists a
>Typhoon Signal, but you never know, they might just have got it right
>for once.
>
>Phil
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>
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>
> > Hi Phil,
> > With the Typhoon currently just passing Luzon I normally acess PAGASA
> > for
> > local warning etc. but no luck this time.Can you or any other list
> > member
> > tell me if you can acess or is their site really off line? The storm
> > has
> > lived longer than expected..a sign for the coming season.
> > Gavin
> > Canberra
> >
> >
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Phil,
Checked PAGASA out through your site,Was sucessful. I have been checking 
your site for a while now ,very useful.Congrats.
Gavin

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>
>G'day Gavin and all,
>PAGASA is working fine this morning.
>Check out the links on my page at http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>as they (PAGASA) keep changing their Internet addresses.
>A lot of PAGASA information is presented in a far better format on Mike
>Padua's site (Typhoon2000).
>Yes, 02W - Amang - Kujira is a very long-lived storm.
>The laughable thing at the moment is the very wide discrepancy between
>where all the different agencies think it will go next,  If you want a
>really good belly laugh, go to my site and click on each of the links
>labelled "Map".  If you put the forecast tracks all on one map and hang
>a rim around it you'd be re-inventing the wheel!
>HKO has it heading for HK, Mike Padua has it clobbering Taipei, JTWC has
>it headed for Okinawa, JMA just draws a bloody great circle and says it
>will be "somewhere in there", and WXHK has launched a contest asking
>people to vote for where they think it will go (fair dinkum - it's
>there - go look at the site!).
>At this time of year I don't intend holding my breath until HKO hoists a
>Typhoon Signal, but you never know, they might just have got it right
>for once.
>
>Phil
><><
>
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>
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> > for
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> > member
> > tell me if you can acess or is their site really off line? The storm
> > has
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> > Gavin
> > Canberra
> >
> >
> >
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Southeasterly flow at 85knots at 300hPa over Melbourne is something that
I've never come across before.  Has anyone ever seen anything like it?
Anyone like to hazard a guess as to what happens next and where?

Jane
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Hi,

Dragging this up again, but....

I got Dad's photos developed today that he took  at  my home in Wollongbar
whilst I was out chasing. This is how it looked when it came across our
place.....what a beast!!!

http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330oe01.jpg

Considering I've seen many gusters move over my place  at  that direction, I
can say that I have never seen anything on that scale move over our house
before - the shear size of the beast is unbelievable. He took about 8 other
photos but they were all blurry sadly.

After seeing that I'm not surprised Mum closed the blinds and pretended she
hadn't even seen it!

Full report here - updated thisafternoon:
http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-03-03.htm

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>Based on the moon model which has been quite good lately for NZ and UK(but a
>miss for showers in Darwin on 23rd/24th), I have some rain favoured for
>Melbourne between April 29th-May 1st.

I hope you're right Ken.

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Based on the moon model which has been quite good lately for NZ and UK(but a
miss for showers in Darwin on 23rd/24th), I have some rain favoured for
Melbourne between April 29th-May 1st.

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> Southeasterly flow at 85knots at 300hPa over Melbourne is something that
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>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I got Dad's photos developed today that he took  at  my home in Wollongbar 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;Considering I've seen many gusters move over my place  at  that direction, I 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;before - the shear size of the beast is unbelievable. He took about 8 other 
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Hi Brendon,<br><br>
Yes there are some sensational pics that have come through:<br><br>
<a href="http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200303-01.htm</a><br><br>
Certainly gives a &quot;dangerous feel&quot; about that photographs when
you are almost going to be engulfed. Like the place is going to get
eaten.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Jimmy Deguara<br><br>
At 05:32 PM 25/4/2003 +0930, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hi Dave<br><br>
That storm looks absolutely mouth-watering!!!&nbsp; I just wish I was
there to experience that.&nbsp; I love the striations in that 
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&gt;Hi, <br>
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&gt;Dragging this up again, but.... <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;I got Dad's photos developed today that he took  at  my home in
Wollongbar <br>
&gt;whilst I was out chasing. This is how it looked when it came across
our <br>
&gt;place.....what a beast!!! <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;<a href="http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330oe01.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330oe01.jpg</a>
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;Considering I've seen many gusters move over my place  at  that
direction, I <br>
&gt;can say that I have never seen anything on that scale move over our
house <br>
&gt;before - the shear size of the beast is unbelievable. He took about 8
other <br>
&gt;photos but they were all blurry sadly. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;After seeing that I'm not surprised Mum closed the blinds and
pretended she <br>
&gt;hadn't even seen it! <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;Full report here - updated thisafternoon: <br>
&gt;<a href="http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-03-03.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-03-03.htm</a>
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http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0330de29.jpg

That is damn near the most amazing thing I've ever seen taken in this
country.  Droolworthy and scary at the same time.  Congrats too all
concerned.  That must make a calendar or two surely....

P



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Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:52:13 +0800
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I agree with you Phil.  That truly is an amazing picture.  I tried it 
out for a wallpaper but it gets too distorted.
I have seen a lot of really decent storms and even some of 
the "mothership" variety over the last half-century, but that has to be 
one of the best pictures ever.
I've spent several sessions in the last few days re-reading and viewing 
that report.
Tremendous!
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> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0330de29.
> jpg
> 
> That is damn near the most amazing thing I've ever seen taken in this
> country.  Droolworthy and scary at the same time.  Congrats too all
> concerned.  That must make a calendar or two surely....
> 
> P
> 
> 
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We had two small funnels develop over </span></font><font
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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> today at
about </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>. There was a strong shower heading nw
away  at  the sea, and the funnels appeared on the back side of the rain
squall.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>First was a thin funnel which tried valiantly to reach the
ground without success, this then decayed into a very thin strand like funnel.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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nearby. It was a lot larger in size. It too tried to gain pace and some
rotation could be seen. At about this time the first funnel which was a single thread
type configuration also strengthened so the two of them proceeded across our
narrow coastal plan up the valley and inland. After about 5 minutes they
decayed and disappeared.</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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when I saw a waterspout of the harbour entrance.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It wasn&#8217;t spectacular but nevertheless interesting
considering our lousy storm seasons in recent years it was interesting.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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where was it forecast to rain? i'm not sure where cola is. it was bucketing
down here in logan this evening 7pm. suze

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Well - no precip today as yet. Doesn't look promising either.

Cmon Moon.....

Paul Mossman

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> Well Ken,
>
> I am hoping that YOU are right! I'd love a significant fall or 5....
>
>
> Paul
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>
>
> > Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
> > Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If
> this
> > was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further
back.
> > But this one will be interesting..  :)
> > Ken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance
> of
> > > any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
> > >
> > > Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Mossman
> > > NT State ASWA Rep
> > > Moderator http://www.aussiepub.com/forum
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> > >  at : "Ken Ring" <ken at weatherman.co.nz>
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> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > > > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I
> think
> > > > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > > > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
> > aware
> > > > that Darwin does..
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
> > > >
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> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 3:30 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ken and list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the
> wet
> > > > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm
> fall
> > in
> > > 2
> > > > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is
> significant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons.
Were
> > you
> > > > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Paul Mossman
> > > > > NT State ASWA Rep
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 04:22:40 +1000
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yep, phil picked the best photo of the page i reckon.
hey...does that base cloud have a pair of cat eyes staring out  at  it!?
spooky...entrancing...
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0330de29.jpg

i like this one too, nice contrast.
and a blokes face in the leading edge?  wow the face of the beastie huh <g>
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/video/stills/2003/0330rw03.jpg

thanx for sharing...suze

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Hi,

Dragging this up again, but....

I got Dad's photos developed today that he took  at  my home in Wollongbar
whilst I was out chasing. This is how it looked when it came across our
place.....what a beast!!!

http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/temp/0330oe01.jpg

Considering I've seen many gusters move over my place  at  that direction, I
can say that I have never seen anything on that scale move over our house
before - the shear size of the beast is unbelievable. He took about 8 other
photos but they were all blurry sadly.

After seeing that I'm not surprised Mum closed the blinds and pretended she
hadn't even seen it!

Full report here - updated thisafternoon:
http://www.lexicon.net/stormboy2002/storm_chasing/2003/docs/2003-03-03.htm

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<x-flowed>
G'day Ian!

I remember the ones a year or two ago. I think I scanned and passed on a 
newspaper article (or 2) to Michael Bath on it. A couple of my mates who 
were at the jetty and at the showground at the time managed to see it.

Good to see a bit of late season entertainment! (You're right about the poor 
storm seasons lately though)

Dave



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Subject: aus-wx: 2 small funnels over Coffs Harbour NSW
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:58:58 +1000

Just thought a few might be interested.



We had two small funnels develop over Coffs Harbour today at about 1.15pm.
There was a strong shower heading nw away  at  the sea, and the funnels
appeared on the back side of the rain squall.



First was a thin funnel which tried valiantly to reach the ground without
success, this then decayed into a very thin strand like funnel.



After a few minutes a triangular type funnel appeared nearby. It was a lot
larger in size. It too tried to gain pace and some rotation could be seen.
At about this time the first funnel which was a single thread type
configuration also strengthened so the two of them proceeded across our
narrow coastal plan up the valley and inland. After about 5 minutes they
decayed and disappeared.



I haven't seen a funnel in Coffs for about 30 years when I saw a waterspout
of the harbour entrance.



It wasn't spectacular but nevertheless interesting considering our lousy
storm seasons in recent years it was interesting.



About two years ago we had 4 funnels come in off the sea and head inland.



Ian Isles



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uhm...ok...i forgot it's not "this evening" anymore....hmm - i'm blaming
that on sleep deprivation.
that was rain 7pm on Saturday night 26th April. Logan is half-way between
the Gold Coast and Brisbane.
cheers...suze

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where was it forecast to rain? i'm not sure where cola is. it was bucketing
down here in logan this evening 7pm. suze

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Well - no precip today as yet. Doesn't look promising either.

Cmon Moon.....

Paul Mossman

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> Well Ken,
>
> I am hoping that YOU are right! I'd love a significant fall or 5....
>
>
> Paul
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>
>
> > Yes, have to agree, they do. Ah.. but some of my models say different.
> > Of course we've both been wrong before. Challenge? I don't think so. If
> this
> > was the decider, I'd have done a whole production on it  at  further
back.
> > But this one will be interesting..  :)
> > Ken
> >
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> > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> >
> >
> > > Well the challenge is on - the models & BoM forecasts show zero chance
> of
> > > any precip, the Cola 10 day rain outlook shows zero chance of precip.
> > >
> > > Will the moon win? Stay tuned....
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Mossman
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> > > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 2:01 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Moon fails?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Paul
> > > > I have been favouring significant rain for Darwin on 23rd/24th or
> > > > thereabouts, then again around 28th/29th. After this April rain, I
> think
> > > > Darwin is in for a long dry spell of some months.
> > > > I meant that NZ doesn't get anything we call monsoons, and yes, I am
> > aware
> > > > that Darwin does..
> > > > cheers
> > > > Ken Ring
> > > > www.predictweather.com
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Ken and list,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am interested to hear what Ken says about the poor finish to the
> wet
> > > > > season? After a bumper February, there has been only 100 - 150mm
> fall
> > in
> > > 2
> > > > > months. This is about 300 - 400mm below average, which is
> significant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, in an email the other day you said we dont get monsoons.
Were
> > you
> > > > > referring to NZ or ? We definately get Monsoon here in Darwin :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Paul Mossman
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers!
> > > > > >
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Can you get better than that.......The perfect storm.
I'm going to be chasing NSW next summer.
Cheers

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> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0330de29.jpg
>
> That is damn near the most amazing thing I've ever seen taken in this
> country.  Droolworthy and scary at the same time.  Congrats too all
> concerned.  That must make a calendar or two surely....
>
> P
>
>
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Hi Everyone,

After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm we
have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still promising
more rain.

Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.

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The movie of the same name is on Channel 9 in Sydney tonite at 8.30..don't
know how good it is...the station promo at least showed a weather map, plus
a rather artificial looking hurricane wall cloud..but of course these are
all artificial aren't they...
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> Can you get better than that.......The perfect storm.
> I'm going to be chasing NSW next summer.
> Cheers
>
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>
>
> >
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/0330de29.jpg
> >
> > That is damn near the most amazing thing I've ever seen taken in this
> > country.  Droolworthy and scary at the same time.  Congrats too all
> > concerned.  That must make a calendar or two surely....
> >
> > P
> >
> >
> >
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If Robertson is any guide, they have had 11 mm to 9am and 10mm since so not
much in the catchment so far. Adjacent parts are similar.
21mm here (Kings Langley) since 9am..looks promising but I'll believe it
when I see it...
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> Hi Everyone,
>
> After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm we
> have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still promising
> more rain.
>
> Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.
>
> Judy Mayo
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Hi All,  It looks like we may be able to sit on our deck and watch the
lightning this evening.  So I live in hope.
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The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so far. 

dann

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Hi Everyone,

After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm we
have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still promising
more rain.

Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.

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Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm
tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain
includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours.
This was picked by the all models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in
Sydney missed it. don't know what they were doing. Hope someone queries
why?

Don White

dann weatherhead wrote:
> 
> The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so far.
> 
> dann
> 
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> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm we
> have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still promising
> more rain.
> 
> Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.
> 
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The rain has been awesome here in Concord (just east of Homebush), reports
of localised flooding on some of the streets around here.
Not to mention some nice lightning and booming rumbles of thunder. :)

BOM at their best too.

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> Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm
> tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain
> includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours.
> This was picked by the all models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in
> Sydney missed it. don't know what they were doing. Hope someone queries
> why?
>
> Don White
>
> dann weatherhead wrote:
> >
> > The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so
far.
> >
> > dann
> >
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> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm
we
> > have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still
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> > more rain.
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> > Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.
> >
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Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:25:27 +1000
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Hi Phil, everyone...

Heard quite a few reports of people not being able to go anywhere
because the roads are flooded!  Quite surprised there is no road weather
alert/local flood warnings for that...a reminder to spotters that they
can report *any* severe weather, not just storms!  Although with 100+mm
falling in Sydney, I'm surprised that nothing has been mentioned just on
that!

AC

Phillip Basil-Jones wrote:
> 
> The rain has been awesome here in Concord (just east of Homebush), reports
> of localised flooding on some of the streets around here.
> Not to mention some nice lightning and booming rumbles of thunder. :)
> 
> BOM at their best too.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Don White" <donwhite at ozemail.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Heavy Rain
> 
> > Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm
> > tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain
> > includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours.
> > This was picked by the all models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in
> > Sydney missed it. don't know what they were doing. Hope someone queries
> > why?
> >
> > Don White
> >
> > dann weatherhead wrote:
> > >
> > > The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so
> far.
> > >
> > > dann
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to 4pm
> we
> > > have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still
> promising
> > > more rain.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment Area.
> > >
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There has been lots of  problems with flooding on the Highway near the
Hawkesbury River Bridge, also on Lane Cove Road, North Ryde at De Burgh's
bridge,  the Wakehurst Parkway, Narrabeen, and around North Sydney.  A lot
of the problems are being caused by drains blocked by rubbish, autumn leaves
etc.
Earlier the Comonara Parkway at Turramurra was also badly affected.  There
has not been much mention of this on the radio however the police have been
busy trying to sort out the traffic chaos.
It is still raining at Mona Vale now,  10 pm, although nowhere near as
heavily as this afternoon.
Judy.

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> Hi Phil, everyone...
>
> Heard quite a few reports of people not being able to go anywhere
> because the roads are flooded!  Quite surprised there is no road weather
> alert/local flood warnings for that...a reminder to spotters that they
> can report *any* severe weather, not just storms!  Although with 100+mm
> falling in Sydney, I'm surprised that nothing has been mentioned just on
> that!
>
> AC
>
> Phillip Basil-Jones wrote:
> >
> > The rain has been awesome here in Concord (just east of Homebush),
reports
> > of localised flooding on some of the streets around here.
> > Not to mention some nice lightning and booming rumbles of thunder. :)
> >
> > BOM at their best too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Don White" <donwhite at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Heavy Rain
> >
> > > Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm
> > > tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain
> > > includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours.
> > > This was picked by the all models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in
> > > Sydney missed it. don't know what they were doing. Hope someone
queries
> > > why?
> > >
> > > Don White
> > >
> > > dann weatherhead wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so
> > far.
> > > >
> > > > dann
> > > >
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> > > >  at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to
4pm
> > we
> > > > have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still
> > promising
> > > > more rain.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment
Area.
> > > >
> > > > Judy Mayo
> > > >
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I must admit that I am surprised myself, there has been thunder here too,
but no flooding - so nothuing to report to the BOM  at  here. South Coast
hinterland looks like it is having a deluge, could be some flood warnings
out for south coast rivers tomorrow.

Michael


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> Hi Phil, everyone...
>
> Heard quite a few reports of people not being able to go anywhere
> because the roads are flooded!  Quite surprised there is no road weather
> alert/local flood warnings for that...a reminder to spotters that they
> can report *any* severe weather, not just storms!  Although with 100+mm
> falling in Sydney, I'm surprised that nothing has been mentioned just on
> that!
>
> AC
>
> Phillip Basil-Jones wrote:
> >
> > The rain has been awesome here in Concord (just east of Homebush),
reports
> > of localised flooding on some of the streets around here.
> > Not to mention some nice lightning and booming rumbles of thunder. :)
> >
> > BOM at their best too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Don White" <donwhite at ozemail.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Heavy Rain
> >
> > > Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm
> > > tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain
> > > includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours.
> > > This was picked by the all models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in
> > > Sydney missed it. don't know what they were doing. Hope someone
queries
> > > why?
> > >
> > > Don White
> > >
> > > dann weatherhead wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 24mm so
> > far.
> > > >
> > > > dann
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >  at : aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Adam Mayo
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> > > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Heavy Rain
> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up to
4pm
> > we
> > > > have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still
> > promising
> > > > more rain.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment
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> > > >
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> > > >
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Very heavy rain indeed at Clemton Park / Campsie south at times this afternoon / evening.  Just got
home at 10pm to find 4 inches exactly in the gauge  at  when I emptied it at 2pm before going out to
the club down the road, ie, in 8 hours.  It was heaviest in this area around 3:30 to 4 pm and again
this evening  at  around 8 to 9pm, thunder, lightning, the works.  A mate was at Sydenham at 8pm and
said the 747's were going into cloud with heavy rain and lighting over the station at about 800
feet. Would have been interesting for the passengers.
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Heavy rain between Cowan and Mount White late this afternoon. Went to
Castle Hill and traffic was bad earlier in the day,but not a great deal
of rain, more traffic problems than weather problems.  On my return trip
about an hour later the rain was so heavy we were doing at the most 60km
in the 110 zone and had the wipers on full pelt just to see a couple of
meters in front......

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There has been lots of  problems with flooding on the Highway near the
Hawkesbury River Bridge, also on Lane Cove Road, North Ryde at De
Burgh's bridge,  the Wakehurst Parkway, Narrabeen, and around North
Sydney.  A lot of the problems are being caused by drains blocked by
rubbish, autumn leaves etc. Earlier the Comonara Parkway at Turramurra
was also badly affected.  There has not been much mention of this on the
radio however the police have been busy trying to sort out the traffic
chaos. It is still raining at Mona Vale now,  10 pm, although nowhere
near as heavily as this afternoon. Judy.

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> Hi Phil, everyone...
>
> Heard quite a few reports of people not being able to go anywhere 
> because the roads are flooded!  Quite surprised there is no road 
> weather alert/local flood warnings for that...a reminder to spotters 
> that they can report *any* severe weather, not just storms!  Although 
> with 100+mm falling in Sydney, I'm surprised that nothing has been 
> mentioned just on that!
>
> AC
>
> Phillip Basil-Jones wrote:
> >
> > The rain has been awesome here in Concord (just east of Homebush),
reports
> > of localised flooding on some of the streets around here. Not to 
> > mention some nice lightning and booming rumbles of thunder. :)
> >
> > BOM at their best too.
> >
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> > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mona Vale NSW Heavy Rain
> >
> > > Warragamba Dam has had 55.4 mm  at  9 am Saturday morning to 7 pm 
> > > tonight. Heavy rain is parts of Sdyeny - Homebush 105 mm of rain 
> > > includiung 83 mm in the last 3 hours. This was picked by the all 
> > > models 4-5 days ago.... the BoM boys in Sydney missed it. don't 
> > > know what they were doing. Hope someone
queries
> > > why?
> > >
> > > Don White
> > >
> > > dann weatherhead wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Bom Hydrology site says that Warragamba Dam site has had 
> > > > 24mm so
> > far.
> > > >
> > > > dann
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> > > > Mayo
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:35 PM
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> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > After a warmish morning, it started to rain at about 1pm and up 
> > > > to
4pm
> > we
> > > > have been lucky enough to have another 35.5mm.  The sky is still
> > promising
> > > > more rain.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if it has rained over the Warragamba Catchment
Area.
> > > >
> > > > Judy Mayo
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Hi All,

52mm  at  Mt. Crosby SEQ since about midday.  Brings April total to 130mm so
far.

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Always so much wetter than us up the road in Petrie - only 61mm for April to
date (22mm yesterday) !

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> 52mm  at  Mt. Crosby SEQ since about midday.  Brings April total to 130mm so
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> John.
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Hi John and third,

Total for me out of this event since Friday evening has been 61.5mm pushing
the April total to 124.5 mm. I think the average for the Brisbane office,
which is the nearest to me is 92 mm.

Regards

Greg Curtis

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Always so much wetter than us up the road in Petrie - only 61mm for April to
date (22mm yesterday) !

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Hi Greg, Third

Yes very nice to see Mt. Crosby getting a fair bit, very often we miss out
on coastal stuff.  When I looked at the radar yesterday, it seemed that a
little rain area was parked over the region just North of Ipswich for most
of the afternoon.  Something to do with a bit of orographic uplift over the
nearby ranges maybe, combined with medium level winds aloft pushing the
rainfall area just over the range.  Surprising that Petrie did not get more
being closer to the coast though.

The 52mm yesterday adds to 9.5mm on Sat and 15mm on Friday, so very good!

Our April 130mm (to date) compares to the long term Ipswich mean for April
of 63mm, so we are more than double average, and I need a machete to get
around the back yard!

John.

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Hi John and third,

Total for me out of this event since Friday evening has been 61.5mm pushing
the April total to 124.5 mm. I think the average for the Brisbane office,
which is the nearest to me is 92 mm.

Regards

Greg Curtis

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Always so much wetter than us up the road in Petrie - only 61mm for April to
date (22mm yesterday) !

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> John.
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 11:39:18 +1000
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A whopping 13mm here over the past few days in Hiddenvale (not that far
 at  John actually).  Brings our total to 61.5mm so far for April, which
is below average.  Some lovely CJs on the ranges though and the cloud
has cleared here, so we might see some afternoon thunderies!  Might get
something tomorrow too, so long as it doesn't dry out too much  at  the
west.

AC

John Woodbridge wrote:
> 
> Hi Greg, Third
> 
> Yes very nice to see Mt. Crosby getting a fair bit, very often we miss out
> on coastal stuff.  When I looked at the radar yesterday, it seemed that a
> little rain area was parked over the region just North of Ipswich for most
> of the afternoon.  Something to do with a bit of orographic uplift over the
> nearby ranges maybe, combined with medium level winds aloft pushing the
> rainfall area just over the range.  Surprising that Petrie did not get more
> being closer to the coast though.
> 
> The 52mm yesterday adds to 9.5mm on Sat and 15mm on Friday, so very good!
> 
> Our April 130mm (to date) compares to the long term Ipswich mean for April
> of 63mm, so we are more than double average, and I need a machete to get
> around the back yard!
> 
> John.
> 
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> 
> Hi John and third,
> 
> Total for me out of this event since Friday evening has been 61.5mm pushing
> the April total to 124.5 mm. I think the average for the Brisbane office,
> which is the nearest to me is 92 mm.
> 
> Regards
> 
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> Always so much wetter than us up the road in Petrie - only 61mm for April to
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Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:22:11 +1000
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Hi everyone,

I've uploaded some stormchase reports/photos  at  summer...still plenty
more to do!  They're uploaded at:
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They include: December 9 night severe squall line, December 10 severe
squall line (wind gust to 120km/h at the AP), January 19 NE NSW, January
21 SE QLD severe microbursts, Feb 13 hailstorm, Feb 14 explosive severe
pulse storm near Rosewood...

The best ones are:

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/10_12_02ac.html
(Dec 10)

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/19_01_03ac.html
(Jan 19)

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/21_01_03ac.html
(Jan 21 - a little hair raising with my car nearly getting hit by half a
tree!  Some spectacular afternoon/evening CGs <some very close too, like
the one above which was 50-100m away>)

And...

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/02-03/14_02_03ac.html
(Feb 14)

Many more still to come (some great days in March I still have to
write-up!)
-- 
Anthony Cornelius
Vice President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
0417 759 304
http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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We often seem to get less than most here.  Not quite sure why though.  Even
the worst of the storms seem to go either side of us - some tracking to the
south and heading across to Redcliffe and others to the North heading to
Caboolture.

My parents live West of Caboolture at the bottom of the range and have
almost not been able to plant their strawberry crop due to to much rain.

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> Hi Greg, Third
>
> Yes very nice to see Mt. Crosby getting a fair bit, very often we miss out
> on coastal stuff.  When I looked at the radar yesterday, it seemed that a
> little rain area was parked over the region just North of Ipswich for most
> of the afternoon.  Something to do with a bit of orographic uplift over
the
> nearby ranges maybe, combined with medium level winds aloft pushing the
> rainfall area just over the range.  Surprising that Petrie did not get
more
> being closer to the coast though.
>
> The 52mm yesterday adds to 9.5mm on Sat and 15mm on Friday, so very good!
>
> Our April 130mm (to date) compares to the long term Ipswich mean for April
> of 63mm, so we are more than double average, and I need a machete to get
> around the back yard!
>
> John.
>
> >snip
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> Hi John and third,
>
> Total for me out of this event since Friday evening has been 61.5mm
pushing
> the April total to 124.5 mm. I think the average for the Brisbane office,
> which is the nearest to me is 92 mm.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Curtis
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> Always so much wetter than us up the road in Petrie - only 61mm for April
to
> date (22mm yesterday) !
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> > Hi All,
> >
> > 52mm  at  Mt. Crosby SEQ since about midday.  Brings April total to 130mm
so
> > far.
> >
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1035.9 would certainly be approaching record values for April, but
not for the year as a whole. Most of Victoria and southern NSW 
reached values in the 1040-1043 range on 7-8 July 1987. 

The highest on record at the Wangaratta Airport AWS is 1040.9 on
14 June 2000.

Blair

> to Bussy and Gavin...
> The June 1967 event saw pressure peak at 1046 at Hobart - nothing over
> 1040 on the mainland.
> However, low 1040s were reached across Victoria a few year back... will
> try to find dates but maybe Blair's got computerised records which would
> make finding them easier - I dont keeep pressure data.
> 
> Bottom line - 1036 is getting up there.
> 
> Cheers
> Don White
> 
> Gavin O'Brien wrote:
> > 
> > Bussy,
> > I know it shows my age but I can remember readings over 1040 hpa at Sydney
> > in the 1967 winter (June)with a 1070 High over Tasmainia and a series of
> > Lows off the S.E. Queensland Coast - a classic blocking pattern. Your area
> > would have been around 1050 hpa.I have the MSL Charts somewhere in my
> > records..if I can find them!
> > Gavin SSWW Canberra
> > 
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> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 18:35:46 +1000
> > >
> > >I think we had this discussion before so I apologize. What is the highest
> > >barometer reading "we've" had? I had 1035.9 yesterday. Seems to be quite
> > >high????
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Some nice offshore cb's early afternoon off the sydney coastline, a sign
of things to come tomorrow maybe.

Matt Smith

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Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.

Michael


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> Some nice offshore cb's early afternoon off the sydney coastline, a sign
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There were some very nice cells around just offshore of Sydney around 7am as
well

Max
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> Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.
>
> Michael
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Just noticed a flash to the SE of here ( 9pm ), although stars out overhead.

Michael

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> There were some very nice cells around just offshore of Sydney around 7am
as
> well
>
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> > Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.
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> > Michael
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How far away do you think Michael ?


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> Just noticed a flash to the SE of here ( 9pm ), although stars out
overhead.
>
> Michael
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> as
> > well
> >
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> > > Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.
> > >
> > > Michael
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Sorry for late reply, not very far, off Kiama I would say



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> How far away do you think Michael ?
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> Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs
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>
> > Just noticed a flash to the SE of here ( 9pm ), although stars out
> overhead.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Max" <max56 at iinet.net.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs
> >
> >
> > > There were some very nice cells around just offshore of Sydney around
> 7am
> > as
> > > well
> > >
> > > Max
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >  at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs
> > >
> > >
> > > > Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >  at : "Matthew Smith" <tornado at idx.com.au>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:04 PM
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: offshore cbs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Some nice offshore cb's early afternoon off the sydney coastline,
a
> > sign
> > > > > of things to come tomorrow maybe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Smith
> > > > >
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 at : "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:24:07 -0600
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You just missed out on that one. Different timing and those storms could
have been over NSW.
----- Original Message -----
 at : "Max" <max56 at iinet.net.au>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs


> There were some very nice cells around just offshore of Sydney around 7am
as
> well
>
> Max
> ----- Original Message -----
>  at : "Michael Thompson" <thunder at ozthunder.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: offshore cbs
>
>
> > Some late 'almost' congestus south of Wollongong around sunset too.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >  at : "Matthew Smith" <tornado at idx.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 4:04 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: offshore cbs
> >
> >
> > > Some nice offshore cb's early afternoon off the sydney coastline, a
sign
> > > of things to come tomorrow maybe.
> > >
> > > Matt Smith
> > >
> > >
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