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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in Canberra


Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this Weekend!. =D

Simon
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> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and prosperous
New
> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> Gavin
> Southside Weather Service
> Canberra ACT
>
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Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this Weekend!. =D

Simon
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> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and prosperous
New
> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> Gavin
> Southside Weather Service
> Canberra ACT
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in Canberra



Happy New Year from this side of the Tasman. (NZ)

Weather looks a bit boring over here at the moment.


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> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this Weekend!.
=D
>
> Simon
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> > To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and prosperous
> New
> > Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> > Gavin
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> > Canberra ACT
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this Weekend!.
=D
>
> Simon
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> > Gavin
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> >
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From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in Canberra


I agree Simon, itching to get amongst it and will travel! Happy New Year
to all.

David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com


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Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
Weekend!. =D

Simon
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> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
prosperous
New
> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> Gavin
> Southside Weather Service
> Canberra ACT
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
Motorola
> E365. Go to:  http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp
>
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Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
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Simon
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> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
prosperous
New
> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> Gavin
> Southside Weather Service
> Canberra ACT
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
Motorola
> E365. Go to:  http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 08:54:27 +1100 (EST)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in Canberra


Best wishes go to you Simon and all those on the list.

Cheers,

Jimmy Deguara

> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
> Weekend!. =D
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:50 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
> Canberra
>
>
>> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
>> prosperous
> New
>> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
>> Gavin
>> Southside Weather Service
>> Canberra ACT
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________ Send
>> mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
> Motorola
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> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
> Weekend!. =D
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:50 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
> Canberra
>
>
>> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
>> prosperous
> New
>> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
>> Gavin
>> Southside Weather Service
>> Canberra ACT
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________ Send
>> mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
> Motorola
>> E365. Go to:  http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp
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From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Summaries of my observations for 
December 2003 are now available.</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Nathan Thompson" <pthomps3 at bigpond.net.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in Canberra


Hi,

Happy New Year to everyone on this list and hope this is a better year 2004
for everyone.

From Nathan and Phillip Thompson.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
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> I agree Simon, itching to get amongst it and will travel! Happy New Year
> to all.
>
> David Simpson
> www.stormplanet.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Simon Angell
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> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
> Canberra
>
> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
> Weekend!. =D
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:50 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
> Canberra
>
>
> > To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
> prosperous
> New
> > Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> > Gavin
> > Southside Weather Service
> > Canberra ACT
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
> Motorola
> > E365. Go to:  http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp
> >
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> Happy New year everyone, and lets hope it gets interesting this
> Weekend!. =D
>
> Simon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 10:50 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic; New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in
> Canberra
>
>
> > To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and
> prosperous
> New
> > Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> > Gavin
> > Southside Weather Service
> > Canberra ACT
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Send mobile Christmas cards, download a festive ringtone and win a
> Motorola
> > E365. Go to:  http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/christmas.asp
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From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Keith.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Impressive graphics and data what sought 
of weather station are you using seems to be of high quality...regards Clyve 
Herbert.....</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: December data</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Summaries of my observations for 
  December 2003 are now available.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Click&nbsp;the link&nbsp;below, 
  then on the main page navigate to the observations page and choose monthly or 
  annual summaries.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Keith Barnett <BR>Weather fanatic 
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From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
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And may I add my wishes for a Happy and Blessed New Year for all with the 
most thrilling weather ever!
Greetings from Brisbane ... heading back to Hong Kong on Sunday ... gotta 
try to appear intelligent at work on Monday:(

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Subject: aus-wx: Off Topic;  New Years Greetings from Gavin O'B in 
Canberra

> To all members on the list may I wish all of you a Happy and prosperous
> New 
> Year and may we have some interesting weather to discuss in 2004.
> Gavin
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From: "Brett Vilnis" <brett at weatherdownunder.net>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes the Davis Vantage PRO is a nice weather 
station. If anyone would like more info on the PRO just go to <A 
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    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Impressive graphics and data what 
    sought of weather station are you using seems to be of high 
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Summaries of my observations 
      for December 2003 are now available.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Hi all,

Just for a bit of fun and passing the time, I thought I would make some 
collages of some 2003 images.


http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage01.jpg

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage02.jpg

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage03.jpg

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Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

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Jimmy Deguara
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Subject: aus-wx: Bendigo 30th December - downbursts and flashflooding


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<DIV><FONT size=2>"On 30/12/2003,&nbsp;band of mid levels storms unexpectedly 
</FONT><FONT size=2>developed west </FONT><FONT size=2>and northwest of Bendigo 
producing </FONT><FONT size=2>fierce downbursts and local flashflooding. 
</FONT><FONT size=2>Damage was sustained over the greater Bendigo area, 
</FONT><FONT size=2>thus bringing to an end </FONT><FONT size=2>a very weather 
active year for Bendigo."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>A report of this event with some stunning photography, 
courtesy of Clyve Herbert, who was out there at the right time and able to 
capture amazing visual aspects of the severe storms being experienced in the 
area on Tuesday evening </FONT><FONT size=2>can be found here </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Enjoy!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Jane</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>--------------------------------<BR>Jane ONeill - 
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<P>Stunning stuff!&nbsp; I know that area&nbsp;very well, having lived there between the ages of 6 and 11 about 30 years ago.&nbsp; Congrats Macca!<BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;I agree Michael - excellent structure. Well done Macca! You are a great 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I was not expecting to see storm structure of this scale, excellent 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; catch ! 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Michael 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; the Yabba North &amp; Katamatite Supercells. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Absolutely stunning photography &amp; as always, an excellent read!! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; More reports still to come of this day!!!! 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Enjoy, 
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<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;&gt; Jane 
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Nice pictures Jimmy !!! Again.
All the best everyone from a hot Rutherglen. 31 here at 10.40am.

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> Hi all,
>
> Just for a bit of fun and passing the time, I thought I would make some
> collages of some 2003 images.
>
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage01.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage02.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage03.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage04.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage05.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage06.jpg
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/temp/2003/collage07.jpg
>
>
> Regards,
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> -----------------------------------------
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> Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy New Year &amp; Greetings to ALL MY Wonderful 
Friends:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heres some weather figures for December 2003 in 
Mena, Arkansas:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Max.:52.6F(11.4C)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Min.:33.4F(0.6C)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Highest Max.:64F(17.7C) Dec 8</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lowest Min.:20F(-6.6C) Dec 11</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Month:3.30"(83.8mm)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(-1.00"/-25.4mm)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Year:43.55"(1,106.1mm)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
(-11.05"/-280.6mm)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>6 raindays in December.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mena had a Grand Total of 12"(30.4cm) Snow in 3 
events (Feb 6, 9 &amp; 24, plus flurries on 4 days). This is the first year 
ending with below normal rain in Mena since 1992.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will shortly post a more in-depth report for the 
year 2003 on my "Any Arkansas Weather Questions" thread (in General Weather) on 
Weatherzone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wishing ALL A Safe, Happy, Prosperous &amp; Blessed 
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Hi all tropos.
Not a bad looking development over open sea west of Broome started to show
some organising over the past 5 hours, its odd it does not seem to rate much
of a mention either anyway looks pretty good  in its early stages regards
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to read about your 
snowfalls...one question, does snow remain on the ground for any length of time 
at your location, i presume from your southern latitude a thaw would follow 
pretty rapidly most times after snow regards Clyve H Aus</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy New Year &amp; Greetings to ALL MY 
  Wonderful Friends:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heres some weather figures for December 2003 in 
  Mena, Arkansas:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Max.:52.6F(11.4C)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Min.:33.4F(0.6C)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Highest Max.:64F(17.7C) Dec 8</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lowest Min.:20F(-6.6C) Dec 11</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Month:3.30"(83.8mm)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  (-1.00"/-25.4mm)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Year:43.55"(1,106.1mm)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  (-11.05"/-280.6mm)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>6 raindays in December.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mena had a Grand Total of 12"(30.4cm) Snow in 3 
  events (Feb 6, 9 &amp; 24, plus flurries on 4 days). This is the first year 
  ending with below normal rain in Mena since 1992.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will shortly post a more in-depth report for 
  the year 2003 on my "Any Arkansas Weather Questions" thread (in General 
  Weather) on Weatherzone.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wishing ALL A Safe, Happy, Prosperous &amp; 
  Blessed January (and all of 2004).</FONT></DIV>
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From: "arky dave" <dajapo at voltage.net>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Clyve &amp; All: The snow in 2003 melted 
fairly rapidly as the temps weren't all that far below 32F(0C). The biggest snow 
event, 7 and-a-half inches (19.0cm) that fell on the evening of Feb 24th was 
mostly all melted by the 28th as the days had highs into the low 
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  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to read about your 
  snowfalls...one question, does snow remain on the ground for any length of 
  time at your location, i presume from your southern latitude a thaw would 
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Happy New Year &amp; Greetings to ALL MY 
    Wonderful Friends:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Heres some weather figures for December 2003 in 
    Mena, Arkansas:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Max.:52.6F(11.4C)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Avg. Min.:33.4F(0.6C)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Highest Max.:64F(17.7C) Dec 8</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lowest Min.:20F(-6.6C) Dec 11</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Month:3.30"(83.8mm)</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rain for Year:43.55"(1,106.1mm)</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>6 raindays in December.</FONT></DIV>
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    events (Feb 6, 9 &amp; 24, plus flurries on 4 days). This is the first year 
    ending with below normal rain in Mena since 1992.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I will shortly post a more in-depth report for 
    the year 2003 on my "Any Arkansas Weather Questions" thread (in General 
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Hi Clyve and All.

According to JTWC, TC 08S has formed off NW WA, and although the BoM 
is yet to classify it as such in their TC Advices I expect they will 
probably name it in the next few hours.

A monsoon low in the central Coral Sea is weakening as it approaches 
Queensland. This combined with a High in the Tasman could dump some 
welcome rain on SE Qld during the next 24 hrs or so, and could give 
my brother Phil a small taste of Qld 'wet' season conditions before 
he departs back to HK on Sunday. I visited him in Brisbane for a few 
hours earlier today, which is only the 2nd time I have seen him in 17 
years - the previous time was for a few hours just before Christmas 
when he visited here.

Regards,
Carl.

>Hi all tropos.
>Not a bad looking development over open sea west of Broome started to show
>some organising over the past 5 hours, its odd it does not seem to rate much
>of a mention either anyway looks pretty good  in its early stages regards
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Hi Carl and Phil
The Coral Sea low is an interesting development although as you say is
weakening I have been keeping an eye on it and regard it as an equatorward
mid latitude feature marked by a 300hpa cold pool that was very prominent
several days ago, its upper support has all but dissipated over the past 24
hours. Although unusual I have seen upper cold pool lows near this area
before, what I fund interesting about them is their potential to transform
into a warm core tropical feature and eventually develop into a TC...very
rare apparently in the southern hemisphere but not so rare in the
Caribbean...regards Clyve H.
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> Hi Clyve and All.
>
> According to JTWC, TC 08S has formed off NW WA, and although the BoM
> is yet to classify it as such in their TC Advices I expect they will
> probably name it in the next few hours.
>
> A monsoon low in the central Coral Sea is weakening as it approaches
> Queensland. This combined with a High in the Tasman could dump some
> welcome rain on SE Qld during the next 24 hrs or so, and could give
> my brother Phil a small taste of Qld 'wet' season conditions before
> he departs back to HK on Sunday. I visited him in Brisbane for a few
> hours earlier today, which is only the 2nd time I have seen him in 17
> years - the previous time was for a few hours just before Christmas
> when he visited here.
>
> Regards,
> Carl.
>
> >Hi all tropos.
> >Not a bad looking development over open sea west of Broome started to
show
> >some organising over the past 5 hours, its odd it does not seem to rate
much
> >of a mention either anyway looks pretty good  in its early stages regards
> >Clyve h
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Hi Phil, Simon and all,

I have finally got a chance to watch the movie. Incredible special effects 
and the story line is well done.

It was wierd to see how the images were used in the movie - that scene 
towards the end with the ship shows the cloud bases of a photograph taken 
just out of the balcony here!! Michael Bath may want to comment on his 
images being used in terms of the lightning - very difficult to pick these. 
We have had images from the website used in many ways but this by far is 
the highlight!

Awesome.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:35 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
>I'm pretty sure they are in the movie.. I recall a few scenes where they may
>have been used (was very good movie btw) They had some vey good effects used
>on the sky such as when the eye falls.
>
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>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:08 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
>
>
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely correct. They are not obivous,
>but
> > you look closely you can see what they have done almost to diguise the
> > images we supplied. I am not sure what they used - I can only suggest what
> > they purchased and it took them some time before they decided. We even
>gave
> > them sufficient time to perhaps play around before purchasing them.
> >
> > As to seeing the movie myself, I will see it in due time:)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >
> > > I haven't seen the movie yet, but have visited the image gallery on the
> > > LOTR site, and while it may not jump out at people, certain images do
> > > Hint at the pics posted, but no doubt alot of special effects were used
> > > to make the movie scenes more real, instead of seeing the still image.
> > > if you cycle through
> > > http://www.lordoftherings.net/cgi-bin/minastirith.cgi you'll see in
> > > this particular set of pics, the sky does show hints at Jimmy's
> > > images...
> > >
> > > Simon
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >> we saw the Movie this morning and while we were impressed, as we have
> > >> been by the first two movies, with the scernery and special effects ,
> > >> I can't
> > > say
> > >> I recognised the images you put up on the site.
> > >> Gavin
> > >> SSWW
> > >> Gilmore ACT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: "Phill" <pbones at datafast.net.au>
> > >> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:24:21 +1100
> > >> >
> > >> >Why don't you go see the movie?
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >> >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:53 PM
> > >> >Subject: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > More pictures though with a difference:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Our pictures on the Lord of the Rings movie
> > >> > >   http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have not seen the movie but for those who do, please suggest if
> > >> > > they
> > >> >have
> > >> > > seen any of these 7 pictures in there. They did purchase these
> > >> > > from us
> > >> >on
> > >> > > our website to use in the movie Return of the King.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards
> > >> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >> > >
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Good stuff Jimmy, I hope to see the movie soon, look forward to picking
out the images!

David Simpson
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images

Hi Phil, Simon and all,

I have finally got a chance to watch the movie. Incredible special
effects 
and the story line is well done.

It was wierd to see how the images were used in the movie - that scene 
towards the end with the ship shows the cloud bases of a photograph
taken 
just out of the balcony here!! Michael Bath may want to comment on his 
images being used in terms of the lightning - very difficult to pick
these. 
We have had images from the website used in many ways but this by far is

the highlight!

Awesome.

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:35 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
>I'm pretty sure they are in the movie.. I recall a few scenes where
they may
>have been used (was very good movie btw) They had some vey good effects
used
>on the sky such as when the eye falls.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:08 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
>
>
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely correct. They are not
obivous,
>but
> > you look closely you can see what they have done almost to diguise
the
> > images we supplied. I am not sure what they used - I can only
suggest what
> > they purchased and it took them some time before they decided. We
even
>gave
> > them sufficient time to perhaps play around before purchasing them.
> >
> > As to seeing the movie myself, I will see it in due time:)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >
> > > I haven't seen the movie yet, but have visited the image gallery
on the
> > > LOTR site, and while it may not jump out at people, certain images
do
> > > Hint at the pics posted, but no doubt alot of special effects were
used
> > > to make the movie scenes more real, instead of seeing the still
image.
> > > if you cycle through
> > > http://www.lordoftherings.net/cgi-bin/minastirith.cgi you'll see
in
> > > this particular set of pics, the sky does show hints at Jimmy's
> > > images...
> > >
> > > Simon
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi all
> > >> we saw the Movie this morning and while we were impressed, as we
have
> > >> been by the first two movies, with the scernery and special
effects ,
> > >> I can't
> > > say
> > >> I recognised the images you put up on the site.
> > >> Gavin
> > >> SSWW
> > >> Gilmore ACT
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: "Phill" <pbones at datafast.net.au>
> > >> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:24:21 +1100
> > >> >
> > >> >Why don't you go see the movie?
> > >> >
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >> >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:53 PM
> > >> >Subject: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > More pictures though with a difference:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Our pictures on the Lord of the Rings movie
> > >> > >   http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have not seen the movie but for those who do, please
suggest if
> > >> > > they
> > >> >have
> > >> > > seen any of these 7 pictures in there. They did purchase
these
> > >> > > from us
> > >> >on
> > >> > > our website to use in the movie Return of the King.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards
> > >> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >> > >
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Hello Everyone

It's warming up here in Western Queensland.
Here in Bedourie it was 45C yesterday.
Birdsville 47C.
Today at 9am Birdsville was 39.8C and here 40.6C.
Looking at Birdsville temps over the last week, last Saturday a max of
35C and it has been increasing by approximately 2C every day.
Last night the minimum in Birdsville 33C (here 30C) and was still over
40C at 8pm last night.
How are we surviving? Quite well, we have evaporative air-conditioning
which works well in these dry conditions. We don't go outside if we can
avoid it between 10am and 4pm. Cricket is on the TV! 
 
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Hi Chas.
Glad to see we have a weather person on the 'Frontier" Looks like the heat
will be with you for the next few days although with increasing storm risk
activity, will be interesting to see if the 2c increments will continue
today that may start pushing the records and to think I was grumbling about
a max of 33c and no clouds here in central Vic yesterday...at least there
are some clouds here today....alto cumulus castellanus....at last regards
Clyve H.
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> Hello Everyone
>
> It's warming up here in Western Queensland.
> Here in Bedourie it was 45C yesterday.
> Birdsville 47C.
> Today at 9am Birdsville was 39.8C and here 40.6C.
> Looking at Birdsville temps over the last week, last Saturday a max of
> 35C and it has been increasing by approximately 2C every day.
> Last night the minimum in Birdsville 33C (here 30C) and was still over
> 40C at 8pm last night.
> How are we surviving? Quite well, we have evaporative air-conditioning
> which works well in these dry conditions. We don't go outside if we can
> avoid it between 10am and 4pm. Cricket is on the TV!
>
> Chas
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Hi all tropos

The tropical disturbance north of Port Headland looks to have strengthened
rapidly over the past 6 hours and moving slowly west southwest on a bearing
near to 264 degrees, the central overcast (near to 124.2 east and 17 south)
has deepened considerably over the past 3 hours SST's in that area are close
to 29c although not officially confirmed yet as a TC, looks to be close to
cat one and deepening, there is good upper divergence operating over the
system as well ....regards Clyve H.

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Hi Macca,

Read the article and had a thorough look at the radar. Did the Bureau 
confirm definitely supercell and did they comment on the rotation was 
counterclockwise (anticcyclonic) as a left mover?

Nice pictures of striations in the shelf cloud. Well done.

Jimmy Deguara

At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
>Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of the
>Yabba North & Katamatite Supercells.
>
>Absolutely stunning photography & as always, an excellent read!!
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm
>
>More reports still to come of this day!!!!
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Jane
>
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Just another question, which was the second cell being the one with BWER - 
the one heading to Wodonga?

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
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>
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>
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>
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>
>Jane
>
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Hi David,

You enjoy that movie - the special effects spun me out!!!

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 10:15 AM 1/3/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Good stuff Jimmy, I hope to see the movie soon, look forward to picking
>out the images!
>
>David Simpson
>www.stormplanet.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy
>Deguara
>Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2004 9:55 AM
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
>
>Hi Phil, Simon and all,
>
>I have finally got a chance to watch the movie. Incredible special
>effects
>and the story line is well done.
>
>It was wierd to see how the images were used in the movie - that scene
>towards the end with the ship shows the cloud bases of a photograph
>taken
>just out of the balcony here!! Michael Bath may want to comment on his
>images being used in terms of the lightning - very difficult to pick
>these.
>We have had images from the website used in many ways but this by far is
>
>the highlight!
>
>Awesome.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 10:35 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
> >I'm pretty sure they are in the movie.. I recall a few scenes where
>they may
> >have been used (was very good movie btw) They had some vey good effects
>used
> >on the sky such as when the eye falls.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> >
> >
> > > Hi Simon,
> > >
> > > You hit the nail on the head. Absolutely correct. They are not
>obivous,
> >but
> > > you look closely you can see what they have done almost to diguise
>the
> > > images we supplied. I am not sure what they used - I can only
>suggest what
> > > they purchased and it took them some time before they decided. We
>even
> >gave
> > > them sufficient time to perhaps play around before purchasing them.
> > >
> > > As to seeing the movie myself, I will see it in due time:)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > >
> > > > I haven't seen the movie yet, but have visited the image gallery
>on the
> > > > LOTR site, and while it may not jump out at people, certain images
>do
> > > > Hint at the pics posted, but no doubt alot of special effects were
>used
> > > > to make the movie scenes more real, instead of seeing the still
>image.
> > > > if you cycle through
> > > > http://www.lordoftherings.net/cgi-bin/minastirith.cgi you'll see
>in
> > > > this particular set of pics, the sky does show hints at Jimmy's
> > > > images...
> > > >
> > > > Simon
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gavin O'Brien" <mrcenterprises at hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:56 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Hi all
> > > >> we saw the Movie this morning and while we were impressed, as we
>have
> > > >> been by the first two movies, with the scernery and special
>effects ,
> > > >> I can't
> > > > say
> > > >> I recognised the images you put up on the site.
> > > >> Gavin
> > > >> SSWW
> > > >> Gilmore ACT
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >From: "Phill" <pbones at datafast.net.au>
> > > >> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > > >> >Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:24:21 +1100
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Why don't you go see the movie?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > > >> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > >> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >> >Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:53 PM
> > > >> >Subject: aus-wx: Lord of the Rings Return of the King images
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > More pictures though with a difference:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Our pictures on the Lord of the Rings movie
> > > >> > >   http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/index.html
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I have not seen the movie but for those who do, please
>suggest if
> > > >> > > they
> > > >> >have
> > > >> > > seen any of these 7 pictures in there. They did purchase
>these
> > > >> > > from us
> > > >> >on
> > > >> > > our website to use in the movie Return of the King.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Regards
> > > >> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > -----------------------------------------
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> > > >> > > Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
> > > >> > >
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Greetings Jimmy,

Although not commonly known, the Katamatite supercell also had other
chasers surrounding it. Jane O'neill was located southwest of the
supercell, and I was located west of the supercell (all of us didn't
know of each others whereabouts until after the event). In respect of
BoM confirmation, severe weather BoM confirmed it as a supercell,
however the main evidence comes from amazing video footage taken by
myself, and as I was later to discover Jane O'neill and Macca. Although
the wallcloud was rotating visually, I was astounded when combining
video from Jane O'neill and myself, which included timelapse,
spectacular anticyclonic rotation was occurring. (there's no better
evidence than this)
The Katamatite supercell split from a line of storms north of Shepparton
and became a distinct left mover.  The storm rotated from approx. 1940
to at least 2035 before weakening.  I've seen a lot of storms in
Australia...this was one of the best I've ever seen.....best
regards,Clyve Herbert



----- Original Message -----
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:25 PM
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Hi Macca,

Read the article and had a thorough look at the radar. Did the Bureau
confirm definitely supercell and did they comment on the rotation was
counterclockwise (anticcyclonic) as a left mover?

Nice pictures of striations in the shelf cloud. Well done.

Jimmy Deguara

At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
>Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of the
>Yabba North & Katamatite Supercells.
>
>Absolutely stunning photography & as always, an excellent read!!
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm
>
>More reports still to come of this day!!!!
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Jane
>
>--------------------------------
>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
>aussky at iprimus.com.au
>
>Australian Sky & Weather
>http://www.australianskynweather.com
>
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>http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
>***The journey is the reward***
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Greetings Clyve,

Yes it was obvious you guys were around the storm. Good catch. As I said 
nice striations from the northern side.

Jimmy Deguara

At 04:31 PM 1/3/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Greetings Jimmy,
>
>Although not commonly known, the Katamatite supercell also had other
>chasers surrounding it. Jane O'neill was located southwest of the
>supercell, and I was located west of the supercell (all of us didn't
>know of each others whereabouts until after the event). In respect of
>BoM confirmation, severe weather BoM confirmed it as a supercell,
>however the main evidence comes from amazing video footage taken by
>myself, and as I was later to discover Jane O'neill and Macca. Although
>the wallcloud was rotating visually, I was astounded when combining
>video from Jane O'neill and myself, which included timelapse,
>spectacular anticyclonic rotation was occurring. (there's no better
>evidence than this)
>The Katamatite supercell split from a line of storms north of Shepparton
>and became a distinct left mover.  The storm rotated from approx. 1940
>to at least 2035 before weakening.  I've seen a lot of storms in
>Australia...this was one of the best I've ever seen.....best
>regards,Clyve Herbert
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:25 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
>Hi Macca,
>
>Read the article and had a thorough look at the radar. Did the Bureau
>confirm definitely supercell and did they comment on the rotation was
>counterclockwise (anticcyclonic) as a left mover?
>
>Nice pictures of striations in the shelf cloud. Well done.
>
>Jimmy Deguara
>
>At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
> >Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of the
> >Yabba North & Katamatite Supercells.
> >
> >Absolutely stunning photography & as always, an excellent read!!
> >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm
> >
> >More reports still to come of this day!!!!
> >
> >Enjoy,
> >
> >Jane
> >
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> >
> >Australian Sky & Weather
> >http://www.australianskynweather.com
> >
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> >
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My monthly summary for December 2003 recorded at Morphett Vale, Adelaide is
now
online at http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm for
anyone who may be interested :)

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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headline, etc, is, let&#8217;s just say, not the way I&#8217;d write up such an
article but unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff
up, but I&#8217;m sure most of you would understand how this stuff works! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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and they did include comments on safety etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi .
Very easy to read summary and looks typically Australian, always enjoy
everybody's weather data. regards Clyve. H
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Subject: aus-wx: Monthly Summary - December


> My monthly summary for December 2003 recorded at Morphett Vale, Adelaide
is
> now
> online at http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer/weatherhistory.htm
for
> anyone who may be interested :)
>
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Hi Jimmy.
The time lapse on one section of the Video also shows what I believe is a
rear flank downdraft being ingested into the updraft on its southern flank,
another interesting feature was the inflow dominance shown by marked inflow
acceleration along the flanking line...regards Clyve H.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


> Greetings Clyve,
>
> Yes it was obvious you guys were around the storm. Good catch. As I said
> nice striations from the northern side.
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 04:31 PM 1/3/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Greetings Jimmy,
> >
> >Although not commonly known, the Katamatite supercell also had other
> >chasers surrounding it. Jane O'neill was located southwest of the
> >supercell, and I was located west of the supercell (all of us didn't
> >know of each others whereabouts until after the event). In respect of
> >BoM confirmation, severe weather BoM confirmed it as a supercell,
> >however the main evidence comes from amazing video footage taken by
> >myself, and as I was later to discover Jane O'neill and Macca. Although
> >the wallcloud was rotating visually, I was astounded when combining
> >video from Jane O'neill and myself, which included timelapse,
> >spectacular anticyclonic rotation was occurring. (there's no better
> >evidence than this)
> >The Katamatite supercell split from a line of storms north of Shepparton
> >and became a distinct left mover.  The storm rotated from approx. 1940
> >to at least 2035 before weakening.  I've seen a lot of storms in
> >Australia...this was one of the best I've ever seen.....best
> >regards,Clyve Herbert
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:25 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> >
> >
> >Hi Macca,
> >
> >Read the article and had a thorough look at the radar. Did the Bureau
> >confirm definitely supercell and did they comment on the rotation was
> >counterclockwise (anticcyclonic) as a left mover?
> >
> >Nice pictures of striations in the shelf cloud. Well done.
> >
> >Jimmy Deguara
> >
> >At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of the
> > >Yabba North & Katamatite Supercells.
> > >
> > >Absolutely stunning photography & as always, an excellent read!!
> > >http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm
> > >
> > >More reports still to come of this day!!!!
> > >
> > >Enjoy,
> > >
> > >Jane
> > >
> > >--------------------------------
> > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > >
> > >Australian Sky & Weather
> > >http://www.australianskynweather.com
> > >
> > >Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > >
> > >***The journey is the reward***
> > >--------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice spread. Better go and get it.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie Weather</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:04 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: More coverage for 
  weather enthusiasts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Great stuff David,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is good exposure for your site and like you 
said more coverage for all weather enthusiasts, keep up the great 
work</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brett</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
  Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie Weather</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:04 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: More coverage for 
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">4-1-04</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT 
  face=Verdana size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">) 
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From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:05:00 +1100
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Congratulations......to the 'weather 
warrior'.....A passion is rewarded.....regards Clyve Herbert.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=bussie at netc.net.au href="mailto:bussie at netc.net.au">Bussy</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:03 
  AM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nice spread. Better go and get it.</FONT></DIV>
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    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
    href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie Weather</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:04 
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From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
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hastily uploaded damage images I took this morning during a severe thunderstorm
squall through outer eastern </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font size=2
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the way back from Kalkallo, north of <span class=SpellE>Melb</span>., where I
experienced some awesome <span class=SpellE>CG&#8217;s</span> from quite high
bases.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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font-family:Arial'><a href="http://www.stormplanet.com/040104_1.jpg">http://www.stormplanet.com/040104_1.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>More to follow.</span></font></span><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Garamond><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'>David
Simpson</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'><a
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style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'>Ph:
0419357104</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Heheh</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> thanks <span class=SpellE>Clyve</span>, I will never hear the end
of some of the stuff they used&#8230;.apparently I&#8217;m a scientist too,
that&#8217;s nice!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Garamond><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'>David
Simpson</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:
yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Garamond><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=maroon face=Garamond><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'>Ph:
0419357104</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:
yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>G8.106<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sunday, 4
 January 2004</span></font></st1:date><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>
</span></font><st1:time Hour="12" Minute="5"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
 lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>12:05
 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> aussie-weather at world.std.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: aus-wx: More coverage
for weather enthusiasts</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face="MS Sans Serif"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"MS Sans Serif"'>Congratulations......to
the 'weather warrior'.....A passion is rewarded.....regards Clyve Herbert.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:bussie at netc.net.au"
title="bussie at netc.net.au">Bussy</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com" title="aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sunday, January 04, 2004</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="11" Minute="3"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>11:03 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: aus-wx:
More coverage for weather enthusiasts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Nice spread. Better go and get it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;background:#E4E4E4'><b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com"
title="david at stormplanet.com">David Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com" title="aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie
Weather</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sunday, January 04, 2004</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="8" Minute="4"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>8:04 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> aus-wx:
More coverage for weather enthusiasts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<div>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Well today's (</span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>4-1-04</span></font></st1:date><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>) Sunday Herald
Sun carries a few of my images in a 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see
pages 14, 36 &amp; 37. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>I'm really happy with the coverage
but the wording, headline, etc, is, let&#8217;s just say, not the way I&#8217;d
write up such an article but unfortunately I have no control over the way they
write this stuff up, but I&#8217;m sure most of you would understand how this
stuff works! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Anyway, here's the links for those
not in Vic, first is a teaser &amp; the second is the double page spread,
364kb. Images came out ok and they did include comments on safety etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg">http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg">http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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From: "Andrew McDonald" <macca_wx at iprimus.com.au>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:56:12 +1100
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Hi Jimmy and all,

Thanks for the comments re this chase.  Was certainly some awesome structure
given the radar didn't look all that great (well....hehe...it wasn't too bad
either but still nice).

I didn't have too much time the day after to speak to the BoM but they
definitely confirmed that the storm (Katamatite) was a supercell and yes
that was the one with the BWER.

Looking at the radar loop (for the first time just today - i've been on
holidays) and the radar pretty much looks the way I expected (although
perhaps a little less intense than I had first thought it might).

Clyve mentioned that the storm was rotating from about 19:40.  However, I
believe the storm began to exhibit a wall cloud well before this.  I noted
this before 6pm when the cell was just beginning to split from the
Shepparton cell.  I feel that the cell may've began to become a supercell at
this time (will try to confirm with BoM) and although the radar seems to
indicate more of a multicell type structure it is consistent with my
observations that (from my report) "it looked somewhat linear as I
approached it but you could clearly distinguish between the updraft region
and the outflow."

Anyways - certainly an awesome cell and I must admit, slow moving supercells
are a dream to chase!!!  Let's hope we see some more down here in Vic.  <G>.

Macca


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Jimmy Deguara
Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2004 3:28 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Hi Andrew,

Just another question, which was the second cell being the one with BWER -
the one heading to Wodonga?

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 11:27 AM 12/30/03 +1100, you wrote:
>Have just loaded Andrew McDonald's report from the 18th December of the
>Yabba North & Katamatite Supercells.
>
>Absolutely stunning photography & as always, an excellent read!!
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/18am_12_03.htm
>
>More reports still to come of this day!!!!
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Jane
>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Amazing how the power lines are still holding up. 
Great shots.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bit windy here at present with the wind now shifted 
from West to the south with a gust of 59kmh just before lunch but nothing out of 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 12:23 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Thunderstorms/Squall 
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From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>For only the second time in NZ climate history a temperature 
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Have finally put together some video form December 21st,
when Macca, Chris <span class=SpellE>Gribben</span> &amp; I chased in Western
Vic. The following videos are taken in Stawell, where we experienced an amazing
deluge and flash flooding. Well worth watching!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:13:38 +1100
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Too big for me on my ol dial up. Sure they are 
grouse. Will have a geezer at some of the smaller ones though</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
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  <A title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
  Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 6:00 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Dec 21st flash flooding 
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  &amp; I chased in Western Vic. The following videos are taken in Stawell, 
  where we experienced an amazing deluge and flash flooding. Well worth 
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


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Hi Group!

>In respect of
>BoM confirmation, severe weather BoM confirmed it as a supercell.

I often hear comments to the effect "BoM confirmed it as a supercell" though 
I have always wondered how 'confirming' is possible in areas such as Yabba 
North, for example? By definition, storm scale rotation must meet certain 
requirements w/r to depth, duration, magnitude. The presence of a BWER alone 
is not sufficient for this, although does suggest a nice strong updraft. In 
the more obvious cases, such as Macca's beautiful example, it can be fairly 
safely assumed of course.
Speaking of which, I love this structure: 
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec03/181203am02.jpg  very reminiscent of a 
left-moving HP that we had to race around in central Oklahoma last year.

Obviously, the second storm has been severely undercut by this stage, and 
the curviture to me looks more the result of a push than a pull 
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec03/181203am09.jpg

Anyway, excellent contrast and positioning!


David

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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, yes sorry
about the file sizes. Always hard to establish a boundary between size, what to
leave in and quality, cutting down on those files really would have been
difficult, if I had more time I would have broken it down into smaller files,
which I will do when I can.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Simpson</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:
yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;mso-no-proof:yes'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</a></span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-no-proof:yes'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><st1:PersonName><font size=2
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 mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Bussy</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
 style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Sunday, 4
 January 2004</span></font></st1:date><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>
</span></font><st1:time Hour="19" Minute="14"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> aussie-weather at world.std.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: aus-wx: Dec 21st
flash flooding Stawell Vic</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Too big for me on my ol dial up.
Sure they are grouse. Will have a geezer at some of the smaller ones though</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:
bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com"
title="david at stormplanet.com">David Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com" title="aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie
Weather</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:date
Month="1" Day="4" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Sunday, January 04, 2004</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="18" Minute="0"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
 font-family:Arial'>6:00 PM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> aus-wx: Dec
21st flash flooding Stawell Vic<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Have finally put together some video
form December 21st, when Macca, Chris Gribben &amp; I chased in Western Vic.
The following videos are taken in Stawell, where we experienced an amazing
deluge and flash flooding. Well worth watching!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_a.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_a.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(1.5mb) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_b.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_b.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(1.5mb)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_c.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_c.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(5.5mb)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_d.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_d.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(6.3mb)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_e.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_e.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(5.0mb)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_f.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_f.wmv</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>(4.4mb)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 color=maroon
face=Garamond><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;
mso-no-proof:yes'>David Simpson</span></font><span style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 color=maroon
face=Garamond><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Garamond;color:maroon;
mso-no-proof:yes'><a href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</a></span></font><span
style='mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-no-proof:yes'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:36:02 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Hi David......I would regard confirmation by the head of severe weather
Melbourne as reasonable authority on the nature of this storm that was
tracked from Yarrawonga radar which was only 20 kilometers to the east.....
the Bom had been watching this activity for two hours,  as chasers we only
confirmed what we could see and photograph to the BOM.  The comment of the
BOM simply put,  is officiall and then recorded as so..regards Clyve
Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Croan" <wxbustchase at hotmail.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


> Hi Group!
>
> >In respect of
> >BoM confirmation, severe weather BoM confirmed it as a supercell.
>
> I often hear comments to the effect "BoM confirmed it as a supercell"
though
> I have always wondered how 'confirming' is possible in areas such as Yabba
> North, for example? By definition, storm scale rotation must meet certain
> requirements w/r to depth, duration, magnitude. The presence of a BWER
alone
> is not sufficient for this, although does suggest a nice strong updraft.
In
> the more obvious cases, such as Macca's beautiful example, it can be
fairly
> safely assumed of course.
> Speaking of which, I love this structure:
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec03/181203am02.jpg  very reminiscent of a
> left-moving HP that we had to race around in central Oklahoma last year.
>
> Obviously, the second storm has been severely undercut by this stage, and
> the curviture to me looks more the result of a push than a pull
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/Dec03/181203am09.jpg
>
> Anyway, excellent contrast and positioning!
>
>
> David
>
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From: "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:49:39 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Dec 21st flash flooding Stawell Vic


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hell. Didn't mean that. Never ever cut 'em up that 
would spoil the moment. I can sit here with my dial up and get them. Just meant 
to say that it'd take a minute or two. Have seen the first one. Very heavy 
downpour.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
  Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:27 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: aus-wx: Dec 21st flash 
  flooding Stawell Vic</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV class=Section1>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Cheers 
  </SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bussy</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT 
  face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, yes sorry about the 
  file sizes. Always hard to establish a boundary between size, what to leave in 
  and quality, cutting down on those files really would have been difficult, if 
  I had more time I would have broken it down into smaller files, which I will 
  do when I can.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; mso-no-proof: yes">David 
  Simpson</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Garamond color=maroon size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; mso-no-proof: yes"><A 
  href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</A></SPAN></FONT><FONT 
  color=navy><SPAN 
  style="COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy size=3><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; mso-no-proof: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">-----Original 
  Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> 
  aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com 
  [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of 
  </SPAN></B></SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Bussy</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT 
  face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US 
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  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2004" 
  Day="4" Month="1"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">Sunday, 
  4 January 2004</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"> 
  </SPAN></FONT><st1:time Minute="14" Hour="19"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
  lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">7:14 
  PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><BR><B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B><SPAN 
  style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: aus-wx: Dec 21st flash 
  flooding Stawell Vic</SPAN></FONT></P>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
  <DIV>
  <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Too big for me on my ol dial up. 
  Sure they are grouse. Will have a geezer at some of the smaller ones 
  though</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A 
    title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
    Simpson (Stormplanet.com)</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><B><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A 
    title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
    href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">Aussie Weather</A> 
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><B><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> 
    </SPAN></FONT><st1:date Year="2004" Day="4" Month="1"><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sunday, January 04, 
    2004</SPAN></FONT></st1:date><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><st1:time 
    Minute="0" Hour="18"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">6:00 
    PM</SPAN></FONT></st1:time><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><B><FONT face=Arial 
    size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT 
    face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> aus-wx: 
    Dec 21st flash flooding Stawell Vic<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=3><SPAN 
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    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Have finally put together some 
    video form December 21st, when Macca, Chris Gribben &amp; I chased in 
    Western Vic. The following videos are taken in Stawell, where we experienced 
    an amazing deluge and flash flooding. Well worth 
    watching!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_a.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_a.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(1.5mb) 
    <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_b.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_b.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(1.5mb)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_c.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_c.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(5.5mb)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_d.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_d.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(6.3mb)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_e.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_e.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(5.0mb)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_f.wmv">http://www.stormplanet.com/211203_f.wmv</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">(4.4mb)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Garamond 
    color=maroon size=3><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; mso-no-proof: yes">David 
    Simpson</SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face=Garamond 
    color=maroon size=3><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: maroon; FONT-FAMILY: Garamond; mso-no-proof: yes"><A 
    href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</A></SPAN></FONT><SPAN 
    style="mso-no-proof: yes"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
    <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=3><SPAN 
    style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-no-proof: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN><o:p></o:p></FONT></P>
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    size=3><SPAN 
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From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:16:03 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: NASA (Mars Rover) Weather Video - lightning capital of the world is in Australia somewhere?


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>For those who 
can spare 7MB download the </SPAN>NASA (Mars Rover)<SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004> </SPAN>Weather Video&nbsp;<SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004>as it </SPAN>mentions lightning capit<SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004>a</SPAN>l of the world is in Australia<SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004> somewhere</SPAN>?</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=303281213-04012004><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone know 
where the lightning capitol of the world is?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=303281213-04012004></SPAN><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>The Mars Rover video 
page can be found here: <A 
href="http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/challenges.html#launch">http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/challenges.html#launch</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>The pre launch video 
(Weather and Storms) video is located here: </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>MPG: <A 
href="http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/movies/mer_ch_launch_weather.mpg">http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/movies/mer_ch_launch_weather.mpg</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
or </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>MOV: <A 
href="http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/movies/mer_ch_launch_weather.mov">http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/video/movies/mer_ch_launch_weather.mov</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=303281213-04012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:20:11 +1100
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: NZ heatwave


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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=840341813-04012004><FONT size=2>40c will be 
a huge heatwave for Kiwi's</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=840341813-04012004><FONT 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=840341813-04012004><FONT size=2>I remember 
when I was there in 2002 (after the dust storms in Oct 2002 in Australia) their 
main CH4 national news thought Australians were cruel for walking dogs in 26c 
heat.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com 
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Steven 
Williams<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, 4 January 2004 2:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: NZ 
heatwave<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><LABEL id=HbSession SessionId="2800803481"></LABEL>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For only the second time in NZ climate history a temperature 
above 40C has been officially recorded in New Zealand.&nbsp; 4</FONT><FONT 
size=2>1.0C at Darfield, Canterbury, South Island on Friday. On Saturday 39.7C 
was recorded.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Way back in 1973, 43C was recorded in the same area.(NZ's 
record high).&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:06:21 +1030
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: NASA (Mars Rover) Weather Video - lightning capital of the world is in Australia somewhere?


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<DIV><SPAN class=303281213-04012004><FONT face=Arial>Does anyone know where the 
lightning capitol of the world is?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=303281213-04012004>&lt;snip&gt;</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lightning capital of the World is in central Africa.</DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast05dec_1.htm?list58530">http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast05dec_1.htm?list58530</A></DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/04/Floridian/Real_Florida__Our_boa.shtml">http://www.sptimes.com/2002/03/04/Floridian/Real_Florida__Our_boa.shtml</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Australia's lightning capital seems to be about the northwest coast, near 
Darwin.</DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://www.auslottery.com.au/loadmain.php?page=draw28">http://www.auslottery.com.au/loadmain.php?page=draw28</A></DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/tdays_light.shtml">http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/tdays_light.shtml</A></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regs, Paul.<BR>(Stargazer)<BR><A 
href="http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer">http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer</A></DIV>
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Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 10:02:22 +0800
From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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Great article.
Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes me 
spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...

Phil
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From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts

> Hello,
>  
> Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images in a
> 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37. 
> I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc, is,
> let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff up,
> but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works! 
>  
> Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser & the
> second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
> did
> include comments on safety etc.
>  
> http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
>  
>  
> David Simpson
> www.stormplanet.com
>  
>  
> 

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From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
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:) Thanks Phil!!

David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com
Ph: 0419357104
 

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Great article.
Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes me 
spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...

Phil
<><

Phil Smith
IT Teacher - Elementary campus
International Christian School, Hong Kong
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-----Original Message-----
From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts

> Hello,
>  
> Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images in
a
> 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37. 
> I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc, is,
> let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff up,
> but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works! 
>  
> Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser & the
> second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
> did
> include comments on safety etc.
>  
> http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
>  
>  
> David Simpson
> www.stormplanet.com
>  
>  
> 

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With that kind of publicity for storm chasers,  watch out for chaser
convergence.

Well done on getting into the media.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:02 PM
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> Great article.
> Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
> Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes me
> spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...
>
> Phil
> <><
>
> Phil Smith
> IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> International Christian School, Hong Kong
> International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk
> International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk
> Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
> To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
> Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images in a
> > 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
> > I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc, is,
> > let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> > unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff up,
> > but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works!
> >
> > Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser & the
> > second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
> > did
> > include comments on safety etc.
> >
> > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
> >
> >
> > David Simpson
> > www.stormplanet.com
> >
> >
> >
>
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<x-flowed>
G'day Clyve - I assume then that the Melbourne BoM are pretty much doing 
what the rest of us do, though perhaps with more authority - ie  consider 
the synoptic-scale conditions in which storms developed, radar 
characteristics and storm motion, observed storm phenomena (hail, 
tornadoes), along with visual clues, if any available, and then make the 
call. Confirmation of a supercell, based on the presence of a sufficiently 
deep, intense (magnitude of rotational velocity) and long-lived mesocyclone, 
is not currently possible outside of Sydney or Darwin, well that was my 
understanding anyway - hence my curiosity. This will change for the better 
as additional Dopplers are installed in other parts of our country.

David

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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:36:02 +1100
>
>Hi David......I would regard confirmation by the head of severe weather
>Melbourne as reasonable authority on the nature of this storm that was
>tracked from Yarrawonga radar which was only 20 kilometers to the east.....
>the Bom had been watching this activity for two hours,  as chasers we only
>confirmed what we could see and photograph to the BOM.  The comment of the
>BOM simply put,  is officiall and then recorded as so..regards Clyve
>Herbert.

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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:54:15 +1000
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>   Does anyone know where the lightning capitol of the
>   world is?

Kampala, Uganda 
according to several articles/books I've read. :)
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 15:55:45 +1000
From: Tim Eckert <timeckert at austarnet.com.au>
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and... the 'Steve Irwin of meteorology' may not have been the 
greatest term to have used lol.... :P


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:31:59 +1100
>From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" 
<david at stormplanet.com>  
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts  
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>
>   Link: File-List
>
>   Heheh thanks Clyve, I will never hear the end of
>   some of the stuff they used....apparently I'm a
>   scientist too, that's nice!
>
>    
>
>   David Simpson
>
>   www.stormplanet.com
>
>   Ph: 0419357104
>
>    
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>   [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On
>   Behalf Of G8.106
>   Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2004  12:05 PM
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>   enthusiasts
>
>    
>
>   Congratulations......to the 'weather warrior'.....A
>   passion is rewarded.....regards Clyve Herbert.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: Bussy
>
>     To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>
>     Sent:  Sunday, January 04, 2004  11:03 AM
>
>     Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>     enthusiasts
>
>      
>
>     Nice spread. Better go and get it.
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>
>       From: David Simpson (Stormplanet.com)
>
>       To: Aussie Weather
>
>       Sent:  Sunday, January 04, 2004  8:04 AM
>
>       Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>       enthusiasts
>
>        
>
>       Hello,
>
>        
>
>       Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries
>       a few of my images in a 2 page spread if anyone
>       is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
>
>       I'm really happy with the coverage but the
>       wording, headline, etc, is, let's just say, not
>       the way I'd write up such an article but
>       unfortunately I have no control over the way
>       they write this stuff up, but I'm sure most of
>       you would understand how this stuff works!
>
>        
>
>       Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic,
>       first is a teaser & the second is the double
>       page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
>       did include comments on safety etc.
>
>        
>
>       http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
>
>       http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
>
>        
>
>        
>
>       David Simpson
>
>       www.stormplanet.com
>
>        
>
>        
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From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
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Indeed Tim, like I said I don't get to write the articles and it
certainly wasn't a quote I assure you!! Heh heh interesting
(unfortunate) timing wasn't it!

David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com

 

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and... the 'Steve Irwin of meteorology' may not have been the 
greatest term to have used lol.... :P


---- Original message ----
>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:31:59 +1100
>From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" 
<david at stormplanet.com>  
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts  
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>
>   Link: File-List
>
>   Heheh thanks Clyve, I will never hear the end of
>   some of the stuff they used....apparently I'm a
>   scientist too, that's nice!
>
>    
>
>   David Simpson
>
>   www.stormplanet.com
>
>   Ph: 0419357104
>
>    
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
>   [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On
>   Behalf Of G8.106
>   Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2004  12:05 PM
>   To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>   Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>   enthusiasts
>
>    
>
>   Congratulations......to the 'weather warrior'.....A
>   passion is rewarded.....regards Clyve Herbert.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>
>     From: Bussy
>
>     To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>
>     Sent:  Sunday, January 04, 2004  11:03 AM
>
>     Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>     enthusiasts
>
>      
>
>     Nice spread. Better go and get it.
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>
>       From: David Simpson (Stormplanet.com)
>
>       To: Aussie Weather
>
>       Sent:  Sunday, January 04, 2004  8:04 AM
>
>       Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather
>       enthusiasts
>
>        
>
>       Hello,
>
>        
>
>       Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries
>       a few of my images in a 2 page spread if anyone
>       is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
>
>       I'm really happy with the coverage but the
>       wording, headline, etc, is, let's just say, not
>       the way I'd write up such an article but
>       unfortunately I have no control over the way
>       they write this stuff up, but I'm sure most of
>       you would understand how this stuff works!
>
>        
>
>       Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic,
>       first is a teaser & the second is the double
>       page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
>       did include comments on safety etc.
>
>        
>
>       http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
>
>       http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
>
>        
>
>        
>
>       David Simpson
>
>       www.stormplanet.com
>
>        
>
>        
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From: ".Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
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Hi David and all,

what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?

Cheers,

Jane
--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
aussky at iprimus.com.au

Australian Sky and Weather
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From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
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hmmmmm,yessss, i can well imagine all those wanna-be tossers in the city
hurling themselves out into the country to get that amazing pic parking
themselves and their vehicles in life threatening situations as well as to
other road users, as much fun as stormchasing is if it's done properly
it's bloody hard work, i  was approached by the print media from adelaide
ages ago to call them when i knew a chase was on but i never worried about
calling them back, i just prefer to do my own thing, i don't wanna be a
"steve
irwin", someone else can have it, i've done a couple of workshop\forums on
weather and stormchasing and have had calls to do more, in that situation
i'm
in control of the flow of information, maybe i'll do some more, maybe i
won't.
wether i'm well known or not is of no consequence, i'm into chasing storms
not notoriety. glad it's over there and not here.

RM

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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts


>
> With that kind of publicity for storm chasers,  watch out for chaser
> convergence.
>
> Well done on getting into the media.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:02 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
>
>
> > Great article.
> > Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
> > Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes me
> > spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> >
> > Phil Smith
> > IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> > International Christian School, Hong Kong
> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk
> > International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk
> > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
> > To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
> > Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images in
a
> > > 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
> > > I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc, is,
> > > let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> > > unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff up,
> > > but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works!
> > >
> > > Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser & the
> > > second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
> > > did
> > > include comments on safety etc.
> > >
> > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > David Simpson
> > > www.stormplanet.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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I think storm chasing is more fun when you share it with other people.
Media coverage is a win win. The more the better I reckon.


----- Original Message -----
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> hmmmmm,yessss, i can well imagine all those wanna-be tossers in the city
> hurling themselves out into the country to get that amazing pic parking
> themselves and their vehicles in life threatening situations as well as to
> other road users, as much fun as stormchasing is if it's done properly
> it's bloody hard work, i  was approached by the print media from adelaide
> ages ago to call them when i knew a chase was on but i never worried about
> calling them back, i just prefer to do my own thing, i don't wanna be a
> "steve
> irwin", someone else can have it, i've done a couple of workshop\forums on
> weather and stormchasing and have had calls to do more, in that situation
> i'm
> in control of the flow of information, maybe i'll do some more, maybe i
> won't.
> wether i'm well known or not is of no consequence, i'm into chasing storms
> not notoriety. glad it's over there and not here.
>
> RM
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
>
>
> >
> > With that kind of publicity for storm chasers,  watch out for chaser
> > convergence.
> >
> > Well done on getting into the media.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> >
> >
> > > Great article.
> > > Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
> > > Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes
me
> > > spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > <><
> > >
> > > Phil Smith
> > > IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> > > International Christian School, Hong Kong
> > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk
> > > International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk
> > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
> > > To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
> > > Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images
in
> a
> > > > 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
> > > > I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc,
is,
> > > > let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> > > > unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff
up,
> > > > but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works!
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser &
the
> > > > second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and they
> > > > did
> > > > include comments on safety etc.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> > > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Simpson
> > > > www.stormplanet.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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I could never do what these guys have done. Only because I don't feel real
confident speaking in front of others etc. What they have done though is
magnificent. I just want to chase what I want and be the ghost from the
North East. Some people may remember that name. Grin. More than happy to
share any pictures etc I get but otherwise I'm in the closet.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts


> I think storm chasing is more fun when you share it with other people.
> Media coverage is a win win. The more the better I reckon.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 8:22 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
>
>
> > hmmmmm,yessss, i can well imagine all those wanna-be tossers in the city
> > hurling themselves out into the country to get that amazing pic parking
> > themselves and their vehicles in life threatening situations as well as
to
> > other road users, as much fun as stormchasing is if it's done properly
> > it's bloody hard work, i  was approached by the print media from
adelaide
> > ages ago to call them when i knew a chase was on but i never worried
about
> > calling them back, i just prefer to do my own thing, i don't wanna be a
> > "steve
> > irwin", someone else can have it, i've done a couple of workshop\forums
on
> > weather and stormchasing and have had calls to do more, in that
situation
> > i'm
> > in control of the flow of information, maybe i'll do some more, maybe i
> > won't.
> > wether i'm well known or not is of no consequence, i'm into chasing
storms
> > not notoriety. glad it's over there and not here.
> >
> > RM
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 1:00 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> >
> >
> > >
> > > With that kind of publicity for storm chasers,  watch out for chaser
> > > convergence.
> > >
> > > Well done on getting into the media.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:02 PM
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> > >
> > >
> > > > Great article.
> > > > Good coverage for weather enthusiasts in general.
> > > > Keep up the good work - your site is always full of stuff that makes
> me
> > > > spend a lot more time there than I had planned to ...
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > > <><
> > > >
> > > > Phil Smith
> > > > IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> > > > International Christian School, Hong Kong
> > > > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
> > > > International Christian School Web site: http://www.ics.edu.hk
> > > > International Christian School Intranet: http://school.ics.edu.hk
> > > > Doctor Disk E-mail: phil at drdisk.com.hk
> > > > MSN Messenger: doctordisk at hotmail.com
> > > > Web-site: http://www.drdisk.com.hk
> > > > Testimony: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/PhilSmith/about.htm
> > > > Weather: http://www.drdisk.com.hk/cyclones.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "David Simpson \(Stormplanet.com\)" <david at stormplanet.com>
> > > > To: "Aussie Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:04:50 +1100
> > > > Subject: aus-wx: More coverage for weather enthusiasts
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > Well today's (4-1-04) Sunday Herald Sun carries a few of my images
> in
> > a
> > > > > 2 page spread if anyone is interested, see pages 14, 36 & 37.
> > > > > I'm really happy with the coverage but the wording, headline, etc,
> is,
> > > > > let's just say, not the way I'd write up such an article but
> > > > > unfortunately I have no control over the way they write this stuff
> up,
> > > > > but I'm sure most of you would understand how this stuff works!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, here's the links for those not in Vic, first is a teaser &
> the
> > > > > second is the double page spread, 364kb. Images came out ok and
they
> > > > > did
> > > > > include comments on safety etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_1.jpg
> > > > > http://www.stormplanet.com/heraldsun040104_2.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David Simpson
> > > > > www.stormplanet.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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At 07:24 PM 5/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:

>I could never do what these guys have done. Only because I don't feel real
>confident speaking in front of others etc. What they have done though is
>magnificent. I just want to chase what I want and be the ghost from the
>North East. Some people may remember that name. Grin. More than happy to
>share any pictures etc I get but otherwise I'm in the closet.

I don't mind a bit of public speaking.  Haven't done a TV interview yet, 
but I have done a couple of radio interviews for various hobby activities 
of mine.  They get easier each time! :)

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Hi Jimmy.
I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite storm I have
been in the process of editing and putting together three separate video
sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which shows the
splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm complete with
time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you or show
you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying supercells
it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms  move along
before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and large
supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance of
supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters and
personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here in Aus
the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system I have
seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but at the
storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking about
this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime and have a
good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
----- Original Message -----
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To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


> Hi Jane et al,
>
> I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> though I am not an expert in this.
>
> On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
supercells,
> dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be turned on
> in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which was
> the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen many
times:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
>
> Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a rating
> system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell occurred.
One
> meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and then
> another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested with
> certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
definition.
>
> I am referring to this storm:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
>
> Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving - I
> will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal term
> (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this split
> from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving left
> flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail was
> reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall reading
> this in the report - I may have missed it.
>
> What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest "possible" or
> "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
mis-reported
> perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others are
> comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and the
> disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting. That
is
> what I call healthy science.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi David and all,
> >
> >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jane
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> >
> >Australian Sky and Weather
> >www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> >ASWA - Victoria
> >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >***The journey is the reward.***
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Start a new thread here and let us beginners know how to observe a supercell
from a single cell or multi cell. I haven't a clue looking from the ground.
I know when a storm is looking pretty fierce but I as probably a lot of
others here, wish to know. When does it become a multicell or supercell and
what's it look like. I've asked this before and been given links etc which
didn't really answer my questions. I've been sent pictures in the past on
this subject but they all look the same. What do I look for? I'm on the
ground in the North east and haven't a clue what I'm looking at.

Thanks and I'm out.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


> Hi Jane et al,
>
> I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> though I am not an expert in this.
>
> On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
supercells,
> dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be turned on
> in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which was
> the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen many
times:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
>
> Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a rating
> system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell occurred.
One
> meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and then
> another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested with
> certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
definition.
>
> I am referring to this storm:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
>
> Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving - I
> will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal term
> (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this split
> from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving left
> flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail was
> reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall reading
> this in the report - I may have missed it.
>
> What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest "possible" or
> "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
mis-reported
> perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others are
> comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and the
> disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting. That
is
> what I call healthy science.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi David and all,
> >
> >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jane
> >--------------------------------
> >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> >
> >Australian Sky and Weather
> >www.stormchasers.au.com
> >
> >ASWA - Victoria
> >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> >***The journey is the reward.***
> >--------------------------------
> >
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I see that tropical low off the WA coast has finally got itself organised
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"let us beginners know how to observe a supercell"
Good point Bussy, I would appreciate that information as well if someone
has the time.

Chas
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Start a new thread here and let us beginners know how to observe a
supercell
from a single cell or multi cell. I haven't a clue looking from the
ground.
I know when a storm is looking pretty fierce but I as probably a lot of
others here, wish to know. When does it become a multicell or supercell
and
what's it look like. I've asked this before and been given links etc
which
didn't really answer my questions. I've been sent pictures in the past
on
this subject but they all look the same. What do I look for? I'm on the
ground in the North east and haven't a clue what I'm looking at.

Thanks and I'm out.

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> Hi Jane et al,
>
> I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> though I am not an expert in this.
>
> On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
supercells,
> dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
turned on
> in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which
was
> the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen
many
times:
>
>
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
>
> Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a
rating
> system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
occurred.
One
> meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and
then
> another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested
with
> certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
definition.
>
> I am referring to this storm:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
>
> Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving -
I
> will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal
term
> (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this
split
> from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving
left
> flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail
was
> reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
reading
> this in the report - I may have missed it.
>
> What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
"possible" or
> "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
mis-reported
> perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others
are
> comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and
the
> disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting.
That
is
> what I call healthy science.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi David and all,
> >
> >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jane
> >--------------------------------
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Hi Jimmy.
Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split from
a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system although
connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that of a
strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i noticed
rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however there
seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation appeared
to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow curving. I
tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order of 20
to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15 minutes and
sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by definite
outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate appears
to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy and
so on, In the Darwin storm I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear the
Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a draft on
both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very interesting
best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite system
in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I believe
unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage of
existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at the
time and of coarse many other factors as well.
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> Hi Clyve,
>
> I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not a
> problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October 2003
when
> the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the north
> coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left mover
> I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger
bigger
> of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the larger
> hail and was a larger storm.
>
> In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover has
> clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation. This is
> the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite storm
it
> is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left - right
> moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left moving
> anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from the
> photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and taking
> inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and cow
> catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again more
> consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing part.
> What happened one would need to see the video as you say.
>
> Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation that
> seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a
> supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can get
> verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from
> doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest this. In
> fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and the
> storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.
>
> Take a look at this picture:
>
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg
>
> In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates
> anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so it was
a
> supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell status? Was
> severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not that we
> experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20 minutes.
> But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of the
> so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the rotation
> from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw on the
> Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.
>
> Regards,
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi Jimmy.
> >I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite storm I
have
> >been in the process of editing and putting together three separate video
> >sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which shows the
> >splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm complete
with
> >time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you or
show
> >you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying
supercells
> >it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms  move
along
> >before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and large
> >supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance of
> >supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters and
> >personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here in
Aus
> >the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system I
have
> >seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but at the
> >storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking about
> >this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime and have
a
> >good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jane et al,
> > >
> > > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> > > though I am not an expert in this.
> > >
> > > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
> >supercells,
> > > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
turned on
> > > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which
was
> > > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen
many
> >times:
> > >
> > >
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> > >
> > > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a
rating
> > > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
occurred.
> >One
> > > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and
then
> > > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested
with
> > > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
> >definition.
> > >
> > > I am referring to this storm:
> > >
> > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> > >
> > > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving -
I
> > > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal
term
> > > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this
split
> > > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> > > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving
left
> > > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> > > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail
was
> > > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
reading
> > > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> > >
> > > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> > > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
"possible" or
> > > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> > > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
> >mis-reported
> > > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others
are
> > > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and
the
> > > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> > > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting.
That
> >is
> > > what I call healthy science.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >Hi David and all,
> > > >
> > > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> > > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >Jane
> > > >--------------------------------
> > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > > >
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> > > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > >
> > > >ASWA - Victoria
> > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > >
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G'day Jane and all,

The workable range would depend on the type of radar. I'm pretty sure the 
Sydney Doppler is a 5 cm C band radar (based on a presentation by our 
resident radar guru Mal Ninnes!), while the WSR88D, used widely by the NWS 
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their PPI. Base reflectivity scans usually begin with the standard 0.5 
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they currently use for the existing network.

David

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>Hi David and all,
>
>what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
>similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jane
>--------------------------------
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Hi all

Jimmy wrote >Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left 
moving
><snip to here> Just from the orientation and structure it was more 
>consistent with a left moving left flank structure but not consistent with 
>the anticyclonic style of structure.

I'm with Jimmy on this. The visual clues are strongly suggestive of a 
mesocyclone, rather than meso-anticyclone - the storm clearly appears to be 
drawing inflow from the north into its front flank. This is consistent with 
this extract from Macca's report re wind field "NW from about 800mb (25knts) 
up to 400mb (50knts) with a W’ly jet above that getting up to 70-80knts. 
Below that, N to NE’ly winds were feeding into the trough at 15-25knts".  I 
am pretty sure that a hodograph of the pre-storm environment, while it might 
allow for storm splitting, would strongly favour left moving mesocyclonic 
storms. I cant see how a left-moving meso-anticyclone could exist in such a 
strongly sheared environment. Interesting stuff.

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<x-flowed>
Steve , Your Heatwave and drought was reported  on our ABC TV news last 
night along with footage of Bush fires .I didn't realise you are 
experiencing a heat wave over there. We have had a very hot spell here in 
Canberra above 33 degrees for 7 straight days with 39.9 degrees at our 
Bonython site on Sunday.Today by contrast is cool and overcast but so far 
none of the promised rain... its 23 degrees and a bit breezy.
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>Subject: aus-wx: NZ heatwave
>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:35:43 +1300
>
>For only the second time in NZ climate history a temperature above 40C has 
>been officially recorded in New Zealand.  41.0C at Darfield, Canterbury, 
>South Island on Friday. On Saturday 39.7C was recorded.
>
>Way back in 1973, 43C was recorded in the same area.(NZ's record high).

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> >From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: aus-wx: NZ heatwave
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:35:43 +1300
> >
> >For only the second time in NZ climate history a temperature above 40C has 
> >been officially recorded in New Zealand.  41.0C at Darfield, Canterbury, 
> >South Island on Friday. On Saturday 39.7C was recorded.
> >
> >Way back in 1973, 43C was recorded in the same area.(NZ's record high).

The NZ National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA) 
have revised the Darfield figures down - apparently an automatic sensor
was malfunctioning, but manual obs were still being taken (these
peaked at 38.4, still the second-highest on record for January in NZ). 
There's more info on NIWA's web page at www.niwa.co.nz.

There might be potential for more extremes on Thursday, with 850 hPa
temperatures near 20 and strong NW winds forecast.

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Hi Jane et al,

I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars 
though I am not an expert in this.

On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of supercells, 
dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be turned on 
in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which was 
the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen many times:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm

Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a rating 
system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell occurred. One 
meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and then 
another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested with 
certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the definition.

I am referring to this storm:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm

Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving - I 
will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal term 
(left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this split 
from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the 
orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving left 
flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of 
structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail was 
reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall reading 
this in the report - I may have missed it.

What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and 
non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest "possible" or 
"probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and 
funnels are other features I have observed even recently being mis-reported 
perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others are 
comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and the 
disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased 
opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting. That is 
what I call healthy science.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi David and all,
>
>what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
>similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jane
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> Hi Jimmy I was not aware of an argument as You suggest? however The
> Katamatite storm was a left mover and it did rotate
anticyclonically....your
> opinion then would suggest that the only way to identify a supercell or
> confirm a supercell is with the Doppler method does that then mean that
all
> supercells in NSW at a distance of greater than 150 kilometres cannot be
> confirmed  and does that mean that all supercells that you report in
country
> NSW at distances of more than 150 kilometres from Sydney are
suspect......I
> for one never dispute your analysis of what you see on your chases but
what
> you are telling me here  in respect to the Katamitite SUPERCELL OR TRYING
TO
> QUESTION ITS EXISTENCE is EXTRAORDINARY....Clyve Herbert.....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Clyve,
> >
> > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it
> was
> > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
answer
> > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
split
> > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> >
> > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi Jimmy.
> > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split
> from
> > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
although
> > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that
> of a
> > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
> noticed
> > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however
> there
> > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
> appeared
> > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
curving.
> I
> > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order
of
> 20
> > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
minutes
> and
> > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
> definite
> > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
> appears
> > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy
> and
> > >so on,
> >
> > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
identifying
> > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells
(ie
> > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods
be
> > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the
> best
> > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
supercell,
> > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to
the
> > scientists with their available data
> >
> >
> > >In the Darwin storm
> >
> > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
> Darwin
> > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess
> there
> > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the
> storm
> > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > supercell.
> >
> >
> > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear
the
> > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
draft
> on
> > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
> interesting
> > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
> system
> > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
> believe
> > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage
> of
> > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at
the
> > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> >
> >
> > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
extended
> > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as
> they
> > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > feedback.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:31 PM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Clyve,
> > > >
> > > > I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not
a
> > > > problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October
2003
> > >when
> > > > the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the
> north
> > > > coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left
> mover
> > > > I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger
> > >bigger
> > > > of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the
> larger
> > > > hail and was a larger storm.
> > > >
> > > > In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover
has
> > > > clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation.
This
> is
> > > > the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite
> storm
> > >it
> > > > is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left -
right
> > > > moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left
> moving
> > > > anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from
the
> > > > photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and
> taking
> > > > inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and
> cow
> > > > catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again
more
> > > > consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing
> part.
> > > > What happened one would need to see the video as you say.
> > > >
> > > > Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation
> that
> > > > seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a
> > > > supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can
get
> > > > verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from
> > > > doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest
this.
> In
> > > > fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and
> the
> > > > storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.
> > > >
> > > > Take a look at this picture:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg
> > > >
> > > > In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates
> > > > anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so
it
> was
> > >a
> > > > supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell
status?
> Was
> > > > severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not
that
> we
> > > > experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20
> minutes.
> > > > But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of
> the
> > > > so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the
> rotation
> > > > from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw
on
> the
> > > > Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > >
> > > > At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > > >I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite
storm
> I
> > >have
> > > > >been in the process of editing and putting together three separate
> video
> > > > >sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which
shows
> the
> > > > >splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm
complete
> > >with
> > > > >time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you
or
> > >show
> > > > >you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying
> > >supercells
> > > > >it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms
> move
> > >along
> > > > >before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and
> large
> > > > >supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance
of
> > > > >supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters
> and
> > > > >personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here
> in
> > >Aus
> > > > >the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system
I
> > >have
> > > > >seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but
at
> the
> > > > >storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking
> about
> > > > >this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime
and
> have
> > >a
> > > > >good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jane et al,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other
> radars
> > > > > > though I am not an expert in this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
> > > > >supercells,
> > > > > > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
> > >turned on
> > > > > > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode
> which
> > >was
> > > > > > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have
> seen
> > >many
> > > > >times:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is
a
> > >rating
> > > > > > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
> > >occurred.
> > > > >One
> > > > > > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell
> and
> > >then
> > > > > > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then
> suggested
> > >with
> > > > > > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
> > > > >definition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am referring to this storm:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left
> moving -
> > >I
> > > > > > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the
> normal
> > >term
> > > > > > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think
this
> > >split
> > > > > > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from
the
> > > > > > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left
> moving
> > >left
> > > > > > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style
of
> > > > > > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size
> hail
> > >was
> > > > > > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
> > >reading
> > > > > > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells
> and
> > > > > > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
> > >"possible" or
> > > > > > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds
> and
> > > > > > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
> > > > >mis-reported
> > > > > > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means
> others
> > >are
> > > > > > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such
> and
> > >the
> > > > > > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an
> unbiased
> > > > > > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate
> reporting.
> > >That
> > > > >is
> > > > > > what I call healthy science.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > > >Hi David and all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they
operate
> at a
> > > > > > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in
> Australia?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jane
> > > > > > >--------------------------------
> > > > > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Australian Sky and Weather
> > > > > > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > > >
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Hi Clyve,

I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not a 
problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October 2003 when 
the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the north 
coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left mover 
I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger bigger 
of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the larger 
hail and was a larger storm.

In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover has 
clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation. This is 
the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite storm it 
is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left - right 
moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left moving 
anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from the 
photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and taking 
inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and cow 
catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again more 
consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing part. 
What happened one would need to see the video as you say.

Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation that 
seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a 
supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can get 
verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from 
doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest this. In 
fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and the 
storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.

Take a look at this picture:

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg

In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates 
anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so it was a 
supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell status? Was 
severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not that we 
experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20 minutes. 
But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of the 
so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the rotation 
from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw on the 
Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy.
>I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite storm I have
>been in the process of editing and putting together three separate video
>sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which shows the
>splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm complete with
>time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you or show
>you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying supercells
>it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms  move along
>before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and large
>supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance of
>supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters and
>personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here in Aus
>the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system I have
>seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but at the
>storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking about
>this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime and have a
>good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Jane et al,
> >
> > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> > though I am not an expert in this.
> >
> > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
>supercells,
> > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be turned on
> > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which was
> > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen many
>times:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> >
> > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a rating
> > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell occurred.
>One
> > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and then
> > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested with
> > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
>definition.
> >
> > I am referring to this storm:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> >
> > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving - I
> > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal term
> > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this split
> > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving left
> > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail was
> > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall reading
> > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> >
> > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest "possible" or
> > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
>mis-reported
> > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others are
> > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and the
> > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting. That
>is
> > what I call healthy science.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi David and all,
> > >
> > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Jane
> > >--------------------------------
> > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
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> > >
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Perhaps a better picture to support the previous e-mail I sent;

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd11.jpg

http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/new/jd20031214.html 
check here - you can see how this small cell emerges.

Wierd season thus far.

Jimmy Deguara

At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy.
>I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite storm I have
>been in the process of editing and putting together three separate video
>sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which shows the
>splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm complete with
>time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you or show
>you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying supercells
>it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms  move along
>before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and large
>supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance of
>supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters and
>personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here in Aus
>the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system I have
>seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but at the
>storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking about
>this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime and have a
>good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Jane et al,
> >
> > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> > though I am not an expert in this.
> >
> > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
>supercells,
> > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be turned on
> > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which was
> > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen many
>times:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> >
> > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a rating
> > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell occurred.
>One
> > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and then
> > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested with
> > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
>definition.
> >
> > I am referring to this storm:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> >
> > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving - I
> > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal term
> > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this split
> > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving left
> > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail was
> > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall reading
> > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> >
> > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest "possible" or
> > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
>mis-reported
> > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others are
> > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and the
> > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting. That
>is
> > what I call healthy science.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi David and all,
> > >
> > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Jane
> > >--------------------------------
> > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > >
> > >Australian Sky and Weather
> > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > >
> > >ASWA - Victoria
> > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > >
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Hi Jimmy,

Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your own
posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most likely
you are questioning:

a) Whether the storm actually split
b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not

However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long. 
Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of us
meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time they
suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!

Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn. 
As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider other
people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection and
thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
known quote in communication is the following:

"The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
impossible to be misunderstood."

A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
"frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the so
called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that you
pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone. 
They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek to
share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
what was actually witnessed.

Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something if
you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.  Wake
up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the way
you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
once!

AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying

Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> 
> Hi Clyve,
> 
> Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it was
> not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to answer
> it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving split
> and anticyclonic behaviour.
> 
> At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> >Hi Jimmy.
> >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split from
> >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system although
> >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that of a
> >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i noticed
> >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however there
> >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation appeared
> >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow curving. I
> >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order of 20
> >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15 minutes and
> >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by definite
> >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate appears
> >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy and
> >so on,
> 
> This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in identifying
> supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells (ie
> have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods be
> at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the best
> method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a supercell,
> or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to the
> scientists with their available data
> 
> >In the Darwin storm
> 
> Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in Darwin
> and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess there
> are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the storm
> or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> supercell.
> 
> >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear the
> >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a draft on
> >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very interesting
> >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite system
> >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I believe
> >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage of
> >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at the
> >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> 
> We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the extended
> scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as they
> really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> feedback.
> 
> Regards,
> Jimmy Deguara
>
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Hi Jimmy,

Are you suggesting that no storm outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar
can be classified as a supercell even if it does show rotation that can
be observed with the naked eye?

Cheers,

Jane


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fyi BOM Links

Average annual thunder per day map (avg 1990 to 1999):
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Australian Rain Radar Archive (if you missed a radar image):
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Morning Jimmy, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>you as yet haven't answered my question 
in the last email, which was</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>&gt;Are you suggesting that no storm 
outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar<BR>&gt;can be classified as a supercell 
even if it does show rotation that can<BR>&gt;be observed with the naked 
eye?.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">What are your thoughts on this?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>..but in response to this from an earlier 
email from you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">&gt;Ones that produce significant 
<BR>&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a 
tornado <BR>&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high 
on the <BR>&gt;confidence level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">If you are considering this aspect, then 
Katamatite rates very high on the confidence level as you could see it rotating 
with the naked eye. Timelapse, as you admitted yourself when you watched Paul 
Graham's timelapse imagery at the ASWA Conference in 2002, certainly can be most 
impressive!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  ONeill</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North &amp; 
  Katamatite Supercell report</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Morning Jimmy, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>you as yet haven't answered my question 
  in the last email, which was</FONT></DIV>
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  outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar<BR>&gt;can be classified as a 
  supercell even if it does show rotation that can<BR>&gt;be observed with the 
  naked eye?.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">What are your thoughts on this?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>..but in response to this from an 
  earlier email from you,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">&gt;Ones that produce significant 
  <BR>&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a 
  tornado <BR>&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high 
  on the <BR>&gt;confidence level.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">If you are considering this aspect, then 
  Katamatite rates very high on the confidence level as you could see it 
  rotating with the naked eye. Timelapse, as you admitted yourself when you 
  watched Paul Graham's timelapse imagery at the ASWA Conference in 2002, 
  certainly can be most impressive!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Jane</FONT></DIV>
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G'day All,     I have to agree with Anthony.   I haven't personally bothered
to read Mr Deguaras posts for quite some time. Inevitably they become a
diatribe of  self proclaimed expertise. Which is a shame. I am on this list
to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.

Damien Howes


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> Hi Jimmy,
>
> Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your own
> posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most likely
> you are questioning:
>
> a) Whether the storm actually split
> b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not
>
> However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
> anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
> Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
> local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of us
> meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
> possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
> people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time they
> suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
> are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!
>
> Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
> sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.
> As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider other
> people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection and
> thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
> misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
> known quote in communication is the following:
>
> "The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
> impossible to be misunderstood."
>
> A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
> "frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
> react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the so
> called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that you
> pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
> average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.
> They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek to
> share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
> and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
> what was actually witnessed.
>
> Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something if
> you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
> ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.  Wake
> up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
> authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
> well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the way
> you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
> once!
>
> AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying
>
> Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Hi Clyve,
> >
> > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it
was
> > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
answer
> > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
split
> > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> >
> > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi Jimmy.
> > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split
from
> > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
although
> > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that
of a
> > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
noticed
> > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however
there
> > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
appeared
> > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
curving. I
> > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order
of 20
> > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
minutes and
> > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
definite
> > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
appears
> > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy
and
> > >so on,
> >
> > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
identifying
> > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells
(ie
> > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods
be
> > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the
best
> > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
supercell,
> > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to
the
> > scientists with their available data
> >
> > >In the Darwin storm
> >
> > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
Darwin
> > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess
there
> > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the
storm
> > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > supercell.
> >
> > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear
the
> > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
draft on
> > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
interesting
> > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
system
> > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
believe
> > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage
of
> > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at
the
> > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> >
> > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
extended
> > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as
they
> > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > feedback.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
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Hi Clyve,

Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it was 
not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to answer 
it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving split 
and anticyclonic behaviour.

At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy.
>Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
>video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split from
>a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system although
>connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
>stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that of a
>strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i noticed
>rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
>period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however there
>seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation appeared
>to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow curving. I
>tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
>rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order of 20
>to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
>multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15 minutes and
>sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by definite
>outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate appears
>to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
>observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
>intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy and
>so on,

This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose 
years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in identifying 
supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells (ie 
have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods be 
at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect 
analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the best 
method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the 
evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a supercell, 
or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to the 
scientists with their available data


>In the Darwin storm

Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in Darwin 
and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess there 
are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a 
supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the storm 
or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite 
supercell.


>I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
>to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear the
>Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
>report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a draft on
>both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very interesting
>best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite system
>in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I believe
>unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
>however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage of
>existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at the
>time and of coarse many other factors as well.


We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the extended 
scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as they 
really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good 
feedback.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

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>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:31 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Clyve,
> >
> > I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not a
> > problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October 2003
>when
> > the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the north
> > coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left mover
> > I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger
>bigger
> > of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the larger
> > hail and was a larger storm.
> >
> > In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover has
> > clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation. This is
> > the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite storm
>it
> > is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left - right
> > moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left moving
> > anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from the
> > photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and taking
> > inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and cow
> > catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again more
> > consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing part.
> > What happened one would need to see the video as you say.
> >
> > Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation that
> > seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a
> > supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can get
> > verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from
> > doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest this. In
> > fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and the
> > storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.
> >
> > Take a look at this picture:
> >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg
> >
> > In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates
> > anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so it was
>a
> > supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell status? Was
> > severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not that we
> > experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20 minutes.
> > But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of the
> > so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the rotation
> > from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw on the
> > Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi Jimmy.
> > >I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite storm I
>have
> > >been in the process of editing and putting together three separate video
> > >sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which shows the
> > >splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm complete
>with
> > >time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you or
>show
> > >you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying
>supercells
> > >it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms  move
>along
> > >before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and large
> > >supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance of
> > >supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters and
> > >personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here in
>Aus
> > >the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system I
>have
> > >seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but at the
> > >storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking about
> > >this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime and have
>a
> > >good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Jane et al,
> > > >
> > > > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other radars
> > > > though I am not an expert in this.
> > > >
> > > > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
> > >supercells,
> > > > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
>turned on
> > > > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode which
>was
> > > > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have seen
>many
> > >times:
> > > >
> > > >
>http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> > > >
> > > > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is a
>rating
> > > > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
>occurred.
> > >One
> > > > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell and
>then
> > > > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then suggested
>with
> > > > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
> > >definition.
> > > >
> > > > I am referring to this storm:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> > > >
> > > > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left moving -
>I
> > > > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the normal
>term
> > > > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think this
>split
> > > > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from the
> > > > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left moving
>left
> > > > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style of
> > > > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size hail
>was
> > > > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
>reading
> > > > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> > > >
> > > > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells and
> > > > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
>"possible" or
> > > > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds and
> > > > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
> > >mis-reported
> > > > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means others
>are
> > > > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such and
>the
> > > > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an unbiased
> > > > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate reporting.
>That
> > >is
> > > > what I call healthy science.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > >
> > > > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi David and all,
> > > > >
> > > > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they operate at a
> > > > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in Australia?
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >Jane
> > > > >--------------------------------
> > > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > > > >
> > > > >Australian Sky and Weather
> > > > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > >
> > > > >ASWA - Victoria
> > > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > >
> > > > >***The journey is the reward.***
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Hi again Jimmy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">same answer about the Darwin supercell as to the 
Katamatite supercell........great rotation - but you had to be there to see it - 
it was a real pity that you couldn't&nbsp; have been in Darwin with everyone 
else&nbsp;during November!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">btw, </FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">what was 
the answer to my question about the Doppler?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Jane</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">--------------------------------<BR>Jane ONeill 
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Sky &amp; Weather<BR><A 
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<BR>&nbsp;<BR>***The journey is the 
reward***<BR>--------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com 
  href="mailto:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com">Jimmy Deguara</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 January 2004 3:55</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North 
  &amp; Katamatite Supercell report</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Excellent Jane can't wait to see the footage.<BR><BR>The same 
  was said with the Darwin "storm". How does it rate on your confidence 
  scale.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Jimmy Deguara<BR><BR>At 07:48 AM 1/7/04 +1100, 
  you wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>Morning Jimmy, 
    </FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>you as yet 
    haven't answered my question in the last email, which was</FONT><BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>&gt;Are you suggesting that no storm 
    outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar<BR>&gt;can be classified as a 
    supercell even if it does show rotation that can<BR>&gt;be observed with the 
    naked eye?.</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">What are 
    your thoughts on this?</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>..but in response to this from an 
    earlier email from you,</FONT><BR><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" 
    size=2>&gt;Ones that produce significant <BR>&gt;rotation that does not even 
    require timelapse or those that spawn a tornado <BR>&gt;from a rapidly 
    rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high on the <BR>&gt;confidence 
    level.</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>If you 
    are considering this aspect, then Katamatite rates very high on the 
    confidence level as you could see it rotating with the naked eye. Timelapse, 
    as you admitted yourself when you watched Paul Graham's timelapse imagery at 
    the ASWA Conference in 2002, certainly can be most 
    impressive!!</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>Cheers,</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" 
    size=2>Jane</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>--------------------------------<BR>Jane 
    ONeill - Melbourne<BR><A 
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<DIV>Hi Brett,</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I'm trying to find out some information 
about Dopplers..can you help me out here - I gather you know a bit 
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Thanks for your help.</FONT></DIV>
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8:38</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: Yabba North &amp; 
  Katamatite Supercell report</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope this mailing list would be about weather, 
  not politics and ego's</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=aussky at iprimus.com.au href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">.Jane 
    ONeill</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 7:48 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North &amp; 
    Katamatite Supercell report</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Morning Jimmy, </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>you as yet haven't answered my 
    question in the last email, which was</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>&gt;Are you suggesting that no storm 
    outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar<BR>&gt;can be classified as a 
    supercell even if it does show rotation that can<BR>&gt;be observed with the 
    naked eye?.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">What are your thoughts on this?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>..but in response to this from an 
    earlier email from you,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">&gt;Ones that produce 
    significant <BR>&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those 
    that spawn a tornado <BR>&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps 
    going rate high on the <BR>&gt;confidence level.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">If you are considering this aspect, then 
    Katamatite rates very high on the confidence level as you could see it 
    rotating with the naked eye. Timelapse, as you admitted yourself when you 
    watched Paul Graham's timelapse imagery at the ASWA Conference in 2002, 
    certainly can be most impressive!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Jane</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Hi Jimmy,&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Darwin and the Top End was more than just a 
great holiday - we also learnt an enormous amount about tropical meteorology 
(although we have seriously only just begun to scratch the surface of our 
knowledge) as well as getting some absolutely stunning storms (as well as 
landing in the outflow from the storm that caused damage in Palmerston on the 
26th November - that gave us the opportunity to study&nbsp;downbursts up close 
and personal!!)&nbsp;- would you like me to send you copies of the articles and 
abstracts that we have been able to source from various people and places around 
the world, as most aren't readily available on the internet (it helps knowing 
the right people in the right places &lt;g&gt;).&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">I can certainly recommend anyone who wants to 
expand their knowledge of all things meteorological, to take a trip to Darwin in 
November - early December or late Feb - March!!&nbsp; and we now have a number 
of contacts at the BoM in Darwin, including Greg Browning, one of the inaugural 
Victorian ASWA members up there.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Btw,&nbsp; I don't have&nbsp;the answer to the 
Doppler question on this computer atm, so if you could just remind me so that I 
can make some sense of what has been discussed previously it would be most kind 
of you.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Thanks </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">Jane</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif">--------------------------------<BR>Jane ONeill 
- Melbourne<BR></FONT><A href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au"><FONT 
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  href="mailto:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com">Jimmy Deguara</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
  href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 January 2004 4:39</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North 
  &amp; Katamatite Supercell report</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Jane,<BR><BR>At 09:25 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">Hi again Jimmy,</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">same answer about the Darwin supercell as to 
    the Katamatite supercell........great rotation - but you had to be there to 
    see it - it was a real pity that you couldn't&nbsp; have been in Darwin with 
    everyone else during November!!</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I heard anyone that 
  went to Darwin had a great holiday. Fantastic! Others enjoyed their stay here 
  catching some impressive storms.<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">btw, what was the answer to my question about 
    the Doppler?</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I have answered the question 
  twice.<BR><BR>Jimmy<BR><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">Jane</FONT><BR><FONT 
    face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">--------------------------------<BR>Jane ONeill 
    - Melbourne<BR><A 
    href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">aussky at iprimus.com.au</A><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Australian 
    Sky &amp; Weather<BR><A 
    href="http://www.australianskynweather.com">http://www.australianskynweather.com</A><BR>&nbsp;<BR>Australian 
    Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)<BR><A 
    href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au">http://www.severeweather.asn.au</A> 
    <BR>&nbsp;<BR>***The journey is the 
    reward***<BR>--------------------------------</FONT><BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp; 
    <DL>
      <DD>----- Original Message ----- 
      <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com">Jimmy 
      Deguara</A> 
      <DD>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</A> 

      <DD>Sent:</B> Thursday, 8 January 2004 3:55 
      <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North &amp; Katamatite Supercell 
      report<BR><BR>
      <DD>Excellent Jane can't wait to see the footage.<BR><BR>
      <DD>The same was said with the Darwin "storm". How does it rate on your 
      confidence scale.<BR><BR>
      <DD>Regards,<BR><BR>
      <DD>Jimmy Deguara<BR><BR>
      <DD>At 07:48 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:
      <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT 
        face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
        <DD>Morning Jimmy, </FONT>
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>you as yet haven't answered my question in the last email, which 
        was</FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>&gt;Are you suggesting that no storm outside 150km radius of a 
        Doppler radar 
        <DD>&gt;can be classified as a supercell even if it does show rotation 
        that can 
        <DD>&gt;be observed with the naked eye?.</FONT> 
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva"> 
        <DD>What are your thoughts on this?</FONT> 
        <DD> 
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>..but in response to this from an earlier email from 
        you,</FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>&gt;Ones that produce significant 
        <DD>&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that 
        spawn a tornado 
        <DD>&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high 
        on the 
        <DD>&gt;confidence level.</FONT> 
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>If you are considering this aspect, then Katamatite rates very high 
        on the confidence level as you could see it rotating with the naked eye. 
        Timelapse, as you admitted yourself when you watched Paul Graham's 
        timelapse imagery at the ASWA Conference in 2002, certainly can be most 
        impressive!!</FONT> 
        <DD> 
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>Cheers,</FONT> 
        <DD><FONT face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2> 
        <DD>Jane</FONT> 
        <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>-------------------------------- 
        <DD>Jane ONeill - Melbourne 
        <DD><A href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">aussky at iprimus.com.au</A> 
        <DD> 
        <DD>Australian Sky &amp; Weather 
        <DD><A 
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        <DD> 
        <DD>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA) 
        <DD><A 
        href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au">http://www.severeweather.asn.au</A> 

        <DD> 
        <DD>***The journey is the reward*** 
        <DD>-------------------------------- 
        <DD> 
        <DD> 
        <DD><BR><BR>&nbsp;
        <DD>&nbsp;</DD></BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DD>----------------------------------------- 
      <DD>Jimmy Deguara 
      <DD>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher 
      <DD>Mob: 0408020468<BR><BR>
      <DD>Australian Severe Weather Home Page 
      <DD><A href="http://www.australiasevereweather.com/" 
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Hi Anthony:

I am astonished at your post. Where did all that come from? Your post was 
directed at Jimmy but, in writing around me, you broadside me for good 
measure! Jimmy and I are not a tag team. I agree with him on one point in 
particular.

If the points I was trying to get across has been lost in my several short 
e-mails, they are:

(i) BoM 'confirmation' to me has nothing to do with doubting anyone's 
oppinion at all. Rather, it would suggest that the BoM have made some sort 
of qualitative or quantitative measurement, and that the storm met certain 
criteria. For the bulk of Australia that is not possible, from what i 
understand. I think any reasonably experienced observer knows what kinda 
storm they are dealing with, and I have seldon questioned others 
classification of storms. In what appear to be dubious calls I have 
occasionally. Point is, if the Bom have a means of confirm one's own field 
classification then I'd like to know, well at the least it would be 
gratifying.

(ii) To me the Katamatite storm is one that quite simply looks like a 
supercell. I thought Macca's report and chase were beaut!

(iii) In agreement with what Jimmy posted, from what I see in the photos and 
given the conditions, I cant imagine that such a long-lived powerful storm 
was anti-cyclonic. That is no way to say it isn't, but, if so, quite 
remarkable that's all - really!


I find it dissapointing, the fact that you have bundled my posts with 
Jimmy's and labelled the two of us arrogant. Not at all because I want to 
distance myself from Jimmy's posts, but simply because you know that we run 
Tours together. We also attend ASC meetings which you perceive to be a 
threat to ASWA. You accuse me of being a bully in the few posts that I have 
made on this issue -- I leave others to decide on that. Why dont you snip 
out the bits of my e-mails that you find to be bullying.

Brett was spot on with the ego comment - yours Anthony. This is nothing but 
you lnyching Jimmy and I. You have simply taken advantage of your 'status' 
as aswa President and used this opportunity to group the two of us and write 
'the group' off as being arrogant! Your aim is that all the members and  
'newbies'  will all adopt your own attitude -- assume that you must be 
right. As evidenced already, in many cases perhaps that will be the case - 
more power to you Anthony! You have earnt respect for your good knowledge of 
general weather and in helping others learn as well - which is great. It is 
just a shame that you use that respect to hurt others where you feel a 
threat. Jimmy is obviously public enemy number one to you because it is fair 
to say he takes storm chasing to an almost spiritual level and, as a chaser, 
he is more skilled and successful than anyone else in this country - yet he 
is no longer formally associated with ASWA. He established AMOS Weather 
Watch and one of the ASWA founders as well. "What gives" people must be 
thinking, "why is this guy not involved with ASWA" (well you could enlighten 
people!)! You cant exactly say he is lousy at sniffing out a storm, so your 
only option is to make him out to be an arrogant jerk. To you I am just an 
accessory of his so I must be a jerk too! And same goes for all the others 
who dont patronise you. Unlike you, I dont have the time to cruise the 
Australian weather social circuit, IRC etc. In otherwords, I am not there to 
wash the mud off that perhaps might be thrown my way by people like you.

Finally, though it doesn't affect me directly, I really do find this sort of 
personal attack to be really quite low (I assume directed to Jimmy).

>Quit with the "everyone
>misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
>information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
>that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.


The subtlety of written English can make all the difference, and you know 
for Jimmy it his second language. Of the people who know Jimmy well in 
person, I doubt there would be one who would find him arrogant.

Anyway, sorry to other listers, --  however, when one goes public with a 
personal attack the victims should have the right of reply.


and now, back to more discussion.

regards,


David


>From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
>Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:46:54 +1000
>
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your own
>posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most likely
>you are questioning:
>
>a) Whether the storm actually split
>b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not
>
>However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
>anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
>Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
>local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of us
>meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
>possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
>people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time they
>suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
>are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!
>
>Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
>sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.
>As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider other
>people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection and
>thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
>misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
>information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
>that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
>known quote in communication is the following:
>
>"The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
>impossible to be misunderstood."
>
>A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
>"frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
>react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the so
>called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that you
>pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
>average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.
>They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek to
>share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
>and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
>what was actually witnessed.
>
>Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something if
>you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
>ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.  Wake
>up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
>authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
>well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the way
>you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
>once!
>
>AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying
>
>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Hi Clyve,
> >
> > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it 
>was
> > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to 
>answer
> > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving 
>split
> > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> >
> > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi Jimmy.
> > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split 
>from
> > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system 
>although
> > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that 
>of a
> > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i 
>noticed
> > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however 
>there
> > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation 
>appeared
> > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow 
>curving. I
> > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order 
>of 20
> > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15 
>minutes and
> > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by 
>definite
> > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate 
>appears
> > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy 
>and
> > >so on,
> >
> > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in 
>identifying
> > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells 
>(ie
> > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods 
>be
> > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the 
>best
> > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a 
>supercell,
> > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to 
>the
> > scientists with their available data
> >
> > >In the Darwin storm
> >
> > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in 
>Darwin
> > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess 
>there
> > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the 
>storm
> > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > supercell.
> >
> > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear 
>the
> > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a 
>draft on
> > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very 
>interesting
> > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite 
>system
> > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I 
>believe
> > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage 
>of
> > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at 
>the
> > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> >
> > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the 
>extended
> > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as 
>they
> > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > feedback.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
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Hi every1,

I've resisted (vainly) the urge to have my two cents worth on this rather 
heated *debate* but feel I may as well contribute some thoughts....

My observations (rightly or wrongly)....and I'll preface these remarks with 
the comment that I am NOT a member of any chasing or weather association of 
any sort...

[1] David Croan and Jimmy Deguara have demonstrated considerable expertise 
in both finding and documenting severe storms in Aus over many years and 
have considerable credibility in my mind.

[2] Anthony, Jane, Macca, Chris and Clyve have similarly demonstrated an 
almost psychic ability to seek out and capture awesome weather in this 
country and have similar credibility to me.

[3] It becomes problematic (in my opinion) however, when *vested* interests 
start to dominate the reasoning behind debates...be it organising and 
running tours, or running profit-making weather businesses of other kinds. 
Then the spectre of credibility-one-upmanship (whether deliberate or 
otherwise) can so easily rear its ugly head. A query about weather may so 
easily be interpreted as a query about the chaser's credibility - which 
would be seriously damaging to a chaser's business should it turn out that 
one side was *wrong* and another *right*. In my opinion (as basically an 
armchair chaser these days and hence one with very little streed-cred) there 
is very little black and white about either weather or opinions about it. 
This to me is what has made being a weather enthusiast so much more fun and 
interesting than say, stamp-collecting. (No offense to philatelists...still 
one myself) <g>

[4] Having said that...I believe supercells are waaayyy over-reported in 
Australia...but when people who I have great respect for report one I will 
believe them until I hear otherwise...(the number of *possible* supercells 
I've seen would be counted on one hand btw..) It is not news to regulars 
here that I have slightly alternative opinions re the dynamics of Australian 
supercells compared with their US counterparts...<g>

[5] The exposure of weather-enthusiasts to the media here in Australia is at 
an unprecedented level...and oddly...I now find this to be an almost 
self-destructive occurrence...as it has *forced* many chasers into 
competition with each other (wanted or unwanted).

[6] I cannot (and do not) expect people who may earn income from 
weather-related activities to be able to totally divorce themselves from 
these endeavours or the inevitable ego-boosting that will occur (and would 
be totally unnatural if it didn't!) when discussing weather...all I ask is 
that the *debate* be limited to observation, theory and *reasoned* 
discussion. I find it vaguely offensive when people start confusing an 
*event* with a *person*.

[7] Weather is such a dynamic and interesting phenomenon that there will 
always be disagreement about causes, structure and interpretation of 
effects...education of spotters/chasers etc. is imperative (as Bussy and 
others have expressed desire to have) but it'll be a very sad day indeed 
when people who chase storms think they have nothing left to learn...not 
only will they almost certainly be wrong...but their enjoyment of weather 
events will diminish.

Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but I find the schismatic nature of 
weather organisations in Australia at the moment to be a bit 
depressing...part of the reason I never joined one.

Good weather to all in 2004 (whatever your definition of *good*)

Cheers,
Kevin from Wycheproof.

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Thanks Simon

I was very interested in the Thunder Day map.
It is  derived from Bom observers so it has hot spots where they are
located. I would love to compare this map with one derived by a
lightning tracker system.

Chas
Bedourie Qld


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fyi BOM Links

Average annual thunder per day map (avg 1990 to 1999):
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/thunder.shtml


Australian Rain Radar Archive (if you missed a radar image):
http://www.bom.gov.au/nmoc/archives/Radar/


Rain Readings (Color Maps:

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<div class=Section1><pre><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>A squall warning was issued for Port Phillip and </span></font><st1:place><st1:PlaceName><font
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  face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'>Port</span></font></st1:PlaceType></st1:place><font
face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'> today as a </span></font><st1:place><font
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face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'> wind changed approached the </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font
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face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana'> area. As it approached my vantage point approx 40km east of the CBD, a gust front was evident but as it tracked further east it lost much of this structure, however preceding the change at approx 1300hrs I experienced strong winds from the north at around 25kts, gusting 35-40kts. I was captivated by the way this squall line changed its form as it approached me, and hope to time-lapse the line as I filmed <span
class=GramE>it&#8217;s</span> approach. I&#8217;ll post a link when done. Meanwhile, here&#8217;s a selection of the images I took, perhaps not one of the most photogenic event, but I was more interested in observing &amp; for the experience, I am more than pleased!<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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From: "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 15:57:02 +1100
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Hi all.
As at 1400hrs this afternoon no part of Victoria has a mean sea level
pressure greater than 998hpa, ranging from 989 Wilson Prom to 997.8
Mildura.. Also not a bad looking cold air field spreading over most of Vic
either with the coldest air to come later today and tonight.....even cold
air showers getting into the northwest of the state ...regards Clyve H.

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Hi Chas.
I recall an article from a few years ago (internal BOM Mag) of the problems
relating to thunderstorm frequency reporting from remote areas, often done
by volunteers. The main problem of the data was storms were only reported
by some either at 0900 or 1500 when normal measurements were taken if no
thunder was heard at these   times it was not recorded! and so on. There is
a satellite however that does tally up lightning activity on the planet and
occasionally I have been able to see its very impressive data display mapped
out globally....Australia is very active, although lightning activity over
equatorial Africa is an eye opener...regards Clyve H.
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> Thanks Simon
>
> I was very interested in the Thunder Day map.
> It is  derived from Bom observers so it has hot spots where they are
> located. I would love to compare this map with one derived by a
> lightning tracker system.
>
> Chas
> Bedourie Qld
>
>
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> fyi BOM Links
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Hi Clyve & all - Geelong's was 990.2hPa at 10am today.  Still about 992
(5.20pm)

Lindsay Smail
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Hi all.
As at 1400hrs this afternoon no part of Victoria has a mean sea level
pressure greater than 998hpa, ranging from 989 Wilson Prom to 997.8
Mildura.. Also not a bad looking cold air field spreading over most of
Vic
either with the coldest air to come later today and tonight.....even
cold
air showers getting into the northwest of the state ...regards Clyve H.

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> Hi Clyve & all - Geelong's was 990.2hPa at 10am today.  Still about 992
> (5.20pm)

994.8 and dropping at 1.2 per hour here at present (Rutherglen)


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At 03:13 PM 7/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:


>A squall warning was issued for Port Phillip and Western Port today as a 
>Westerly wind changed approached the Melbourne area. As it approached my 
>vantage point approx 40km east of the CBD, a gust front was evident but as 
>it tracked further east it lost much of this structure, however preceding 
>the change at approx 1300hrs I experienced strong winds from the north at 
>around 25kts, gusting 35-40kts. I was captivated by the way this squall 
>line changed its form as it approached me, and hope to time-lapse the line 
>as I filmed its approach. Ill post a link when done. Meanwhile, heres a 
>selection of the images I took, perhaps not one of the most photogenic 
>event, but I was more interested in observing & for the experience, I am 
>more than pleased!

Some nice photos.  I saw it approaching the city, but my vantage point is 
not suitable for watching stuff roll in.  Too low down and the view is 
obscured. :(
Some nice shots there.

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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Hi Tony, yes I'm fortunate to have an excellent elevated position near here for anything approaching from</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">SW through</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">W</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">est to</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">N</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">orth</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I have done the time lapse videos</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">from today,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> </SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/squall070104.htm"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">they can be found here</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> </SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Cheers</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">David Simpson</FONT></SPAN></A></P>

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From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [<A HREF="mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com">mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com</A>] On Behalf Of Tony Langdon, VK3JED<BR>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">At 03:13 PM 7/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<BR>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;A squall warning was issued for Port Phillip and Western Port today as a </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;Westerly wind changed approached the Melbourne area. As it approached my </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;vantage point approx 40km east of the CBD, a gust front was evident but as </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;it tracked further east it lost much of this structure, however preceding </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;the change at approx 1300hrs I experienced strong winds from the north at </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;around 25kts, gusting 35-40kts. I was captivated by the way this squall </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;line changed its form as it approached me, and hope to time-lapse the line </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;as I filmed its approach. Ill post a link when done. Meanwhile, heres a </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;selection of the images I took, perhaps not one of the most photogenic </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;event, but I was more interested in observing &amp; for the experience, I am </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">&gt;more than pleased!</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Some nice photos.&nbsp; I saw it approaching the city, but my vantage point is </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">not suitable for watching stuff roll in.&nbsp; Too low down and the view is </FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">obscured. :(</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Some nice shots there.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">73 de VK3JED</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"><A HREF="http://vkradio.com">http://vkradio.com</A></FONT></SPAN></P>

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Hi Anthony,

Welcome aboard. Wow!!! What an e-mail though too predictable Anthony:)

I certainly hope you have not designed this e-mail to try and undermine my 
right to question? That would be disappointing. I won't buy into any 
bullying tactics - haven't got the time nor the inclination. Let's get back 
on task and talk science than waste time on one's insecurity.

What chance have others to question their understanding and give their 
opinions with e-mails like this lurking around? One knows full well that 
very few will even dare to question reports with irresponsible e-mails such 
as these. I personally welcome anyone to question details in my reports - 
not a problem. Even David and I have discussed our own reports and debated 
often - I am sure people see this as a positive way to learn. In ASC 
(Australian Storm Chasers) meetings, all members are encouraged to portray 
the real concepts at a level they themselves can understand without 
worrying about being bullied.


At 05:46 PM 1/6/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your own
>posts several times

This has been in my own opinion your unfortunate problem. E-mails can 
easily get misinterpreted if you decide to take them negatively. 
Misinterpreting them deliberately is another story.

>  and now have come to the conclusion that most likely
>you are questioning:
>
>a) Whether the storm actually split
>b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not

Yes why wasn't the question answered. It is a valid and important question 
and I am sure Clyve or Andrew certainly have the experience and knowledge 
to answer the question. This e-mail is therefore irrelevant. The delete 
button was included on the keyboard for good reason.

>However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
>anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
>Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
>local "bullies" -

Who is the bully here? The misinterpretation here is not my doing.

>  the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of us
>meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
>possibly even know what a supercell is.


I thought accuracy in reporting rather than trying to prove to everyone 
that one is a great chaser is science Anthony. I suppose one would rather 
David and I go away and not question. We are both too thick skinned to bale 
out to such pressures and encourage others to do the same if they see fit.

On the contrary - I think it is e-mails like these that try and dominate 
the right of other people to learn about the "real" science, proper 
terminology and proper reporting procedures. I hope other people can see 
through this and keep it positive as we have tried to do. I simply asked a 
few questions and they were not fully attended to.

>Enough is enough already, people are tired of constantly being put on 
>trial every single time they
>suggest or label something as a supercell.

We at Australian Severe Weather website have received several e-mails and 
excellent feedback from others in regards to the positive scientific 
methods being encouraged. So something must be going right.

>  Yet the moment the tables
>are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!

When have the tables been turned Anthony? I have not suggested at any time 
that others don't have the right to discuss anyone's reports including my 
own. In fact I encourage it.

>Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
>sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.

Absolutely - I am glad you agree. Would not have it any other way. But 
please quit the competitive nature and the need to outperform in the 
process. This is what gives rise for the need to exaggerate.

>As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider other
>people's feelings when you make posts.

I haven't been attacked by you in a while so I think I have done well..:) 
Strangely enough, it seems mostly you who has tried to use this sort of 
e-mail attack ever since I was out of the so called ASWA President 
position. Seriously Anthony, I am a teacher and if I did not know how to 
get along with people, then teaching would not work. I have made many 
friends both on this list, other forums and all over. But don't worry - it 
has not and will never work.

>A little self introspection and
>thought in words can go a long way.

Perhaps practice what you preach. Anger management is also available 
Anthony. The comment here is somewhat disappointing in that you know who I 
am and where I come from. I have not changed since I have joined the list 
and nor should I need to change to perhaps satisfy one's standards. There 
has not been a negative e-mail like this for some time which is a shame. As 
I said let's get back to business.

>Quit with the "everyone
>misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
>information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
>that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
>known quote in communication is the following:
>
>"The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
>impossible to be misunderstood."
>
>A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
>"frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
>react when you post things.

I am not the one complaining here. I hope you are not frustrated by my lack 
of frustration.

>Quit the bullying of other people in the so
>called "name of science."

Who is the real bully here Anthony?

>   No one here (and certainly not those that you
>pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
>average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.

Actually I think some are but I won't go into that.

>They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek to
>share this experience with other people.

Excellent Anthony. 100% agreed.

>  Remember, they were there -
>and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
>what was actually witnessed.

Absolutely and this has happened recently myself.


>Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something

Your assumption really. Have had a great season thus far and it is great to 
see others have done the same.

>  if
>you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report*

I have not done every single report due to responses such as these.


>to
>ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.  Wake
>up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
>authority."

Nobody claims to be the overuling "supercell authority."

>  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
>well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the way
>you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
>once!

Yes Anthony perhaps having approached this e-mail in a far better manner 
would have kept the thread on task. I think it may now be ruined.

With best intentions,

Jimmy Deguara








>AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying




>Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> >
> > Hi Clyve,
> >
> > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it was
> > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to answer
> > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving split
> > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> >
> > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > >Hi Jimmy.
> > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially 
> split from
> > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system although
> > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was 
> that of a
> > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i noticed
> > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however 
> there
> > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation 
> appeared
> > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow 
> curving. I
> > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order 
> of 20
> > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15 
> minutes and
> > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by definite
> > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate appears
> > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy and
> > >so on,
> >
> > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in identifying
> > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells (ie
> > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods be
> > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the best
> > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a supercell,
> > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to the
> > scientists with their available data
> >
> > >In the Darwin storm
> >
> > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in Darwin
> > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess there
> > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the storm
> > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > supercell.
> >
> > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear the
> > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a 
> draft on
> > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very interesting
> > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite system
> > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I believe
> > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage of
> > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at the
> > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> >
> > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the extended
> > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as they
> > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > feedback.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
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Dear Clyve,

Thanks for the e-mail.

At 04:28 PM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
>To: "M.S.C" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Jimmy I was not aware of an argument as You suggest? however The
> > Katamatite storm was a left mover and it did rotate
>anticyclonically....

Yep and this has been acknowledged.

>your
> > opinion then would suggest that the only way to identify a supercell or
> > confirm a supercell is with the Doppler method does that then mean that
>all
> > supercells in NSW at a distance of greater than 150 kilometres cannot be
> > confirmed  and does that mean that all supercells that you report in
>country
> > NSW at distances of more than 150 kilometres from Sydney are
>suspect......

Well I thought that would be obvious. Ones that produce significant 
rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a tornado 
from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high on the 
confidence level.

>I
> > for one never dispute your analysis of what you see on your chases

As I said in the e-mail to Anthony, everyone has the right and should be 
encouraged to comment on reports including mine. Who is to say mine are 
correct?

>but
>what
> > you are telling me here  in respect to the Katamitite SUPERCELL OR TRYING
>TO
> > QUESTION ITS EXISTENCE is EXTRAORDINARY....Clyve Herbert.....


You suggested you will be writing a report. I think that is fair enough at 
this point in time. But in the meanwhile, I will have to do some research 
that explains the left moving left flank supercell concept with 
anticyclonic behaviour. I am serious Clyve, please lead me to an article in 
the literature so I can read up on how this can exist.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> >
> >
> > > Hi Clyve,
> > >
> > > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it
> > was
> > > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
>answer
> > > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
>split
> > > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> > >
> > > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split
> > from
> > > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
>although
> > > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that
> > of a
> > > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
> > noticed
> > > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however
> > there
> > > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
> > appeared
> > > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
>curving.
> > I
> > > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order
>of
> > 20
> > > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
>minutes
> > and
> > > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
> > definite
> > > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
> > appears
> > > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy
> > and
> > > >so on,
> > >
> > > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
>identifying
> > > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells
>(ie
> > > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods
>be
> > > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the
> > best
> > > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
>supercell,
> > > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to
>the
> > > scientists with their available data
> > >
> > >
> > > >In the Darwin storm
> > >
> > > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
> > Darwin
> > > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess
> > there
> > > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the
> > storm
> > > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > > supercell.
> > >
> > >
> > > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear
>the
> > > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
>draft
> > on
> > > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
> > interesting
> > > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
> > system
> > > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
> > believe
> > > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage
> > of
> > > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at
>the
> > > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
>extended
> > > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as
> > they
> > > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:31 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Clyve,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not
>a
> > > > > problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October
>2003
> > > >when
> > > > > the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the
> > north
> > > > > coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left
> > mover
> > > > > I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger
> > > >bigger
> > > > > of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the
> > larger
> > > > > hail and was a larger storm.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover
>has
> > > > > clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation.
>This
> > is
> > > > > the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite
> > storm
> > > >it
> > > > > is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left -
>right
> > > > > moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left
> > moving
> > > > > anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from
>the
> > > > > photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and
> > taking
> > > > > inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and
> > cow
> > > > > catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again
>more
> > > > > consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing
> > part.
> > > > > What happened one would need to see the video as you say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation
> > that
> > > > > seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a
> > > > > supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can
>get
> > > > > verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from
> > > > > doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest
>this.
> > In
> > > > > fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and
> > the
> > > > > storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take a look at this picture:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates
> > > > > anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so
>it
> > was
> > > >a
> > > > > supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell
>status?
> > Was
> > > > > severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not
>that
> > we
> > > > > experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20
> > minutes.
> > > > > But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of
> > the
> > > > > so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the
> > rotation
> > > > > from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw
>on
> > the
> > > > > Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > > > >I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite
>storm
> > I
> > > >have
> > > > > >been in the process of editing and putting together three separate
> > video
> > > > > >sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which
>shows
> > the
> > > > > >splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm
>complete
> > > >with
> > > > > >time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you
>or
> > > >show
> > > > > >you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying
> > > >supercells
> > > > > >it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms
> > move
> > > >along
> > > > > >before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and
> > large
> > > > > >supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance
>of
> > > > > >supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters
> > and
> > > > > >personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here
> > in
> > > >Aus
> > > > > >the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system
>I
> > > >have
> > > > > >seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but
>at
> > the
> > > > > >storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking
> > about
> > > > > >this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime
>and
> > have
> > > >a
> > > > > >good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Jane et al,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other
> > radars
> > > > > > > though I am not an expert in this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
> > > > > >supercells,
> > > > > > > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
> > > >turned on
> > > > > > > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode
> > which
> > > >was
> > > > > > > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have
> > seen
> > > >many
> > > > > >times:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is
>a
> > > >rating
> > > > > > > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
> > > >occurred.
> > > > > >One
> > > > > > > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell
> > and
> > > >then
> > > > > > > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then
> > suggested
> > > >with
> > > > > > > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
> > > > > >definition.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am referring to this storm:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left
> > moving -
> > > >I
> > > > > > > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the
> > normal
> > > >term
> > > > > > > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think
>this
> > > >split
> > > > > > > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from
>the
> > > > > > > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left
> > moving
> > > >left
> > > > > > > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style
>of
> > > > > > > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size
> > hail
> > > >was
> > > > > > > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
> > > >reading
> > > > > > > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells
> > and
> > > > > > > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
> > > >"possible" or
> > > > > > > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds
> > and
> > > > > > > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
> > > > > >mis-reported
> > > > > > > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means
> > others
> > > >are
> > > > > > > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such
> > and
> > > >the
> > > > > > > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an
> > unbiased
> > > > > > > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate
> > reporting.
> > > >That
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > what I call healthy science.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >Hi David and all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they
>operate
> > at a
> > > > > > > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in
> > Australia?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Jane
> > > > > > > >--------------------------------
> > > > > > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > > > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Australian Sky and Weather
> > > > > > > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > > > >
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to see your air pressure 
cruising to 1038hpa incidentally do you recall your highest and lowest air 
pressure at Mena?. Here in Victoria a deep low over the southern Ocean has just 
dropped my pressure to 991hpa! not bad for summer although we do experience 
occasional southern Ocean low pressure during summer..regards Clyve 
H.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to ALL My Awesome Friends in 
  Aus:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd give ya'll some contrast to your 
  warm temps/low baro readings.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just called the AWS at Mena Airport and 
  currently at 1:17 A.M. on Wed., Jan 7th), we have clear skies; a temp of 
  19F(-7.2C) and a Barometer reading of 30.65"(1038 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Ole' Man Winter" &nbsp;finally dropped in on us, 
  blowing through (Canadian cold front) early A.M. on Sunday and our max Monday 
  (with clouds and brutally cold and gusty NW winds) was 29F(-1.6C). So the high 
  baros mean that we are under tons (tonnes) of frigid airmass. I sort of like 
  this time of year due to the fact that I like to see just how high our baro 
  readings can get.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the weatherunderground site, I've seen some 
  locales in Mongolia with baro readings above 31.00"(1050+hPa)!!!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would just like to congratulate Everyone on all 
  of the wx info that I've learned so much from and from the Awesome weather 
  pics (makes me sort of wish the terrain around here was a little more 
  flat....but I really like looking at our beautiful mountains).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks For Everything!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GO AUS! GO US!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yours~~~David 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings Clyve and all:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, Clyve, I've no idea what the max/min baro 
readings for Mena are. I usually only check the baro readings (AWS at Mena 
Airport) just before we are to get a doozy of a storm or when a heavy mass of 
Arctic air is upon us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can tell you this for high and low 
readings:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nov 23, 2001: Just before a good T-storm, the AWS 
at Mena Airport (at 9:30 P.M.) Temp 70F(21.1C--unseasonably warm), Winds from 
180(South) at 18mph(28.9kph) peak gusts of 29mph(46.6kph) and a Baro reading of 
29.45"(997.3 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jan 2, 2001: In the grips of an Arctic airmass: the 
AWS at Mena Airport (at 11:44 A.M.) Temp 25F(-3.8C) and a Baro reading of 
30.71"(1039.9hPa)!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Usually, around here, when the Baro starts dropping 
below 29.80"(~1009hPa) we know theres probably a storm approaching.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our highest Baros are the result of an outbreak of 
Arctic air.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry I couldn't be of more help.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take Care!<BR>Yours~~~David Powell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. I'm wondering: What would be the rec high/low 
Baro readings for AUS?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to see your air pressure 
  cruising to 1038hpa incidentally do you recall your highest and lowest air 
  pressure at Mena?. Here in Victoria a deep low over the southern Ocean has 
  just dropped my pressure to 991hpa! not bad for summer although we do 
  experience occasional southern Ocean low pressure during summer..regards Clyve 
  H.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:32 
    PM</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to ALL My Awesome Friends in 
    Aus:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd give ya'll some contrast to 
    your warm temps/low baro readings.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just called the AWS at Mena Airport and 
    currently at 1:17 A.M. on Wed., Jan 7th), we have clear skies; a temp of 
    19F(-7.2C) and a Barometer reading of 30.65"(1038 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Ole' Man Winter" &nbsp;finally dropped in on 
    us, blowing through (Canadian cold front) early A.M. on Sunday and our max 
    Monday (with clouds and brutally cold and gusty NW winds) was 29F(-1.6C). So 
    the high baros mean that we are under tons (tonnes) of frigid airmass. I 
    sort of like this time of year due to the fact that I like to see just how 
    high our baro readings can get.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the weatherunderground site, I've seen some 
    locales in Mongolia with baro readings above 
31.00"(1050+hPa)!!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would just like to congratulate Everyone on 
    all of the wx info that I've learned so much from and from the Awesome 
    weather pics (makes me sort of wish the terrain around here was a little 
    more flat....but I really like looking at our beautiful 
    mountains).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks For Everything!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GO AUS! GO US!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yours~~~David 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That same low pressure has given me a 
low barometer of 990.0 today, the 3rd lowest in 27 years of data and a 1 in 24 
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  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to see your air pressure 
  cruising to 1038hpa incidentally do you recall your highest and lowest air 
  pressure at Mena?. Here in Victoria a deep low over the southern Ocean has 
  just dropped my pressure to 991hpa! not bad for summer although we do 
  experience occasional southern Ocean low pressure during summer..regards Clyve 
  H.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 6:32 
    PM</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to ALL My Awesome Friends in 
    Aus:</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd give ya'll some contrast to 
    your warm temps/low baro readings.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just called the AWS at Mena Airport and 
    currently at 1:17 A.M. on Wed., Jan 7th), we have clear skies; a temp of 
    19F(-7.2C) and a Barometer reading of 30.65"(1038 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Ole' Man Winter" &nbsp;finally dropped in on 
    us, blowing through (Canadian cold front) early A.M. on Sunday and our max 
    Monday (with clouds and brutally cold and gusty NW winds) was 29F(-1.6C). So 
    the high baros mean that we are under tons (tonnes) of frigid airmass. I 
    sort of like this time of year due to the fact that I like to see just how 
    high our baro readings can get.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the weatherunderground site, I've seen some 
    locales in Mongolia with baro readings above 
31.00"(1050+hPa)!!!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would just like to congratulate Everyone on 
    all of the wx info that I've learned so much from and from the Awesome 
    weather pics (makes me sort of wish the terrain around here was a little 
    more flat....but I really like looking at our beautiful 
    mountains).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks For Everything!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GO AUS! GO US!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yours~~~David 
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At 06:15 PM 7/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:

>Hi Tony, yes I'm fortunate to have an excellent elevated position near 
>here for anything approaching from SW through West to North. I have done 
>the time lapse videos from today, 
><http://www.stormplanet.com/squall070104.htm>they can be found here.

I have a good view to the SW at home, but not in the office. :(

The good news is come February, I'll have a lot of time for observing and 
chasing. :)

Had a look at the videos, but for some reason, they played very jerky, 
which killed the effect of motion :(

FYI, running Media Player 9 under Win2000 on an Athalon XP 1600+

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I believe the highest air pressure 
ever reached was 1083 hPa in Siberia.</FONT></DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings Clyve and all:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, Clyve, I've no idea what the max/min baro 
  readings for Mena are. I usually only check the baro readings (AWS at Mena 
  Airport) just before we are to get a doozy of a storm or when a heavy mass of 
  Arctic air is upon us.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can tell you this for high and low 
  readings:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nov 23, 2001: Just before a good T-storm, the AWS 
  at Mena Airport (at 9:30 P.M.) Temp 70F(21.1C--unseasonably warm), Winds from 
  180(South) at 18mph(28.9kph) peak gusts of 29mph(46.6kph) and a Baro reading 
  of 29.45"(997.3 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jan 2, 2001: In the grips of an Arctic airmass: 
  the AWS at Mena Airport (at 11:44 A.M.) Temp 25F(-3.8C) and a Baro reading of 
  30.71"(1039.9hPa)!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Usually, around here, when the Baro starts 
  dropping below 29.80"(~1009hPa) we know theres probably a storm 
  approaching.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our highest Baros are the result of an outbreak 
  of Arctic air.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry I couldn't be of more help.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take Care!<BR>Yours~~~David Powell</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. I'm wondering: What would be the rec 
  high/low Baro readings for AUS?</FONT></DIV>
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    href="mailto:mesof6 at iprimus.com.au">G8.106</A> </DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to see your air pressure 
    cruising to 1038hpa incidentally do you recall your highest and lowest air 
    pressure at Mena?. Here in Victoria a deep low over the southern Ocean has 
    just dropped my pressure to 991hpa! not bad for summer although we do 
    experience occasional southern Ocean low pressure during summer..regards 
    Clyve H.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Contrast</DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to ALL My Awesome Friends in 
      Aus:</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd give ya'll some contrast to 
      your warm temps/low baro readings.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just called the AWS at Mena Airport and 
      currently at 1:17 A.M. on Wed., Jan 7th), we have clear skies; a temp of 
      19F(-7.2C) and a Barometer reading of 30.65"(1038 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Ole' Man Winter" &nbsp;finally dropped in on 
      us, blowing through (Canadian cold front) early A.M. on Sunday and our max 
      Monday (with clouds and brutally cold and gusty NW winds) was 29F(-1.6C). 
      So the high baros mean that we are under tons (tonnes) of frigid airmass. 
      I sort of like this time of year due to the fact that I like to see just 
      how high our baro readings can get.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the weatherunderground site, I've seen 
      some locales in Mongolia with baro readings above 
      31.00"(1050+hPa)!!!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would just like to congratulate Everyone on 
      all of the wx info that I've learned so much from and from the Awesome 
      weather pics (makes me sort of wish the terrain around here was a little 
      more flat....but I really like looking at our beautiful 
      mountains).</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks For Everything!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GO AUS! GO US!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yours~~~David 
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<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Here in Victoria the highest pressure I 
have seen is 1042hpa and this is close to about the highest pressure for settled 
areas of southern Australia (I think June 2000). On average the highest annual 
pressure usually approaches 1030hpa at least once of twice each year mainly in 
the winter half (May to Sep). the lowest pressure I have seen in Victoria is 
979hpa but I think record lows are close to 976hpa, usually air pressure will 
approach 990hpa at least twice each year and can occur in any month. As for the 
rest of Australia I do recall seeing a high pressure cell in the Great 
Australian Bight as high as 1048hpa. Very low pressure is occasionally recorded 
over tropical coastal areas of northern Australia including the sub tropics of 
north west Australia and the east coast of Aus associated with tropical cyclones 
when pressure may fall below 950hpa, some TC's off the coasts of northwest Aus 
have fallen to below 920hpa, not dissimilar to the hurricanes that affect the 
tropical and sub tropical areas of USA. regards Clyve H.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=dajapo at voltage.net href="mailto:dajapo at voltage.net">arky dave</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 7:29 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greetings Clyve and all:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, Clyve, I've no idea what the max/min baro 
  readings for Mena are. I usually only check the baro readings (AWS at Mena 
  Airport) just before we are to get a doozy of a storm or when a heavy mass of 
  Arctic air is upon us.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can tell you this for high and low 
  readings:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nov 23, 2001: Just before a good T-storm, the AWS 
  at Mena Airport (at 9:30 P.M.) Temp 70F(21.1C--unseasonably warm), Winds from 
  180(South) at 18mph(28.9kph) peak gusts of 29mph(46.6kph) and a Baro reading 
  of 29.45"(997.3 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jan 2, 2001: In the grips of an Arctic airmass: 
  the AWS at Mena Airport (at 11:44 A.M.) Temp 25F(-3.8C) and a Baro reading of 
  30.71"(1039.9hPa)!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Usually, around here, when the Baro starts 
  dropping below 29.80"(~1009hPa) we know theres probably a storm 
  approaching.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our highest Baros are the result of an outbreak 
  of Arctic air.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry I couldn't be of more help.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take Care!<BR>Yours~~~David Powell</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>P.S. I'm wondering: What would be the rec 
  high/low Baro readings for AUS?</FONT></DIV>
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    <A title=mesof6 at iprimus.com.au 
    href="mailto:mesof6 at iprimus.com.au">G8.106</A> </DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:58 
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    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Hi Arky.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Interesting to see your air pressure 
    cruising to 1038hpa incidentally do you recall your highest and lowest air 
    pressure at Mena?. Here in Victoria a deep low over the southern Ocean has 
    just dropped my pressure to 991hpa! not bad for summer although we do 
    experience occasional southern Ocean low pressure during summer..regards 
    Clyve H.</FONT></DIV>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 07, 2004 
      6:32 PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Contrast</DIV>
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      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello to ALL My Awesome Friends in 
      Aus:</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just thought I'd give ya'll some contrast to 
      your warm temps/low baro readings.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just called the AWS at Mena Airport and 
      currently at 1:17 A.M. on Wed., Jan 7th), we have clear skies; a temp of 
      19F(-7.2C) and a Barometer reading of 30.65"(1038 hPa).</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"Ole' Man Winter" &nbsp;finally dropped in on 
      us, blowing through (Canadian cold front) early A.M. on Sunday and our max 
      Monday (with clouds and brutally cold and gusty NW winds) was 29F(-1.6C). 
      So the high baros mean that we are under tons (tonnes) of frigid airmass. 
      I sort of like this time of year due to the fact that I like to see just 
      how high our baro readings can get.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the weatherunderground site, I've seen 
      some locales in Mongolia with baro readings above 
      31.00"(1050+hPa)!!!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would just like to congratulate Everyone on 
      all of the wx info that I've learned so much from and from the Awesome 
      weather pics (makes me sort of wish the terrain around here was a little 
      more flat....but I really like looking at our beautiful 
      mountains).</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks For Everything!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>GO AUS! GO US!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yours~~~David 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Again All:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just a note to say that this Arctic invasion has 
caused quite a temp contrast across the US. According to the weather.com High 
temp/Low temp map of the US: For Tuesday, Jan 6. the min temps ranged from 
-29F(-33.8C) at Scottsbluff, Nebraska to 66F(18.8C) in Miami, Florida; the max 
temps ranged from -5F(-20.5C) at Butte, Montana to 82F(27.7C) in Orlando, 
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From: "Richard Modistach" <hambone at dodo.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


and so says the one with the features of a well worn ugg boot,
rot like most other things is in the eye of the beholder,
<<<Welcome aboard. Wow!!! What an e-mail though too predictable Anthony:)>>>
this patronising, condesending, yellow gutted,spineless
garbage is more than enough to make one want to
deposit ones lunch onto the floor in front of oneself.
the wisdom of travel and experience hath manifested itself as
a self serving stool with no tongue, the wolfenstien agressor
within betrays the sheepish innocence of your vocation.
 <<<"The key to good communication is not to be understood,
but to be impossible to be misunderstood.">>> AC
profound words of wisdom from a person 10x your stature
and according to the above you have failed miserably,
in a similar league to steve irwin and michael jackson.
you blame others for whats occurred on the list and as usual
your an innocent bystander, all this "rot" would not have
occurred if you had not been the root cause of the problem
to start with, stuck up comes to mind from a previous post
and is being enhanced as time goes on, some will come
to your defence but is of no relavance, even the most
brutal of murders have advocates who will stand up
and defend them to the end.

<<<I am on this list
to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.
Damien Howes>>>

<<<I hope this mailing list would be about weather, not politics and ego's.
brett>>>

not a butt ugly chance in hell of that happening, don't get pissed off,
join in the fun and have a flaming good time.
if this is what it takes to activate the list after months if sparse posts
then so be it. maybe it will spur some of the more infrequentent
posters, me included to report more on weather as it happens.

RM







----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


> Damien, it is the rot from an e-mail such as this and Anthony's that
should
> be off this list. Anyone on this list read what they feel, delete what
they
> want.
>
> Back to the science as Brett suggested.
>
> Regards,
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> At 07:56 AM 1/7/04 +1000, you wrote:
> >G'day All,     I have to agree with Anthony.   I haven't personally
bothered
> >to read Mr Deguaras posts for quite some time. Inevitably they become a
> >diatribe of  self proclaimed expertise. Which is a shame. I am on this
list
> >to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
> >interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.
> >
> >Damien Howes
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:46 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> >
> >
> > > Hi Jimmy,
> > >
> > > Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your
own
> > > posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most
likely
> > > you are questioning:
> > >
> > > a) Whether the storm actually split
> > > b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not
> > >
> > > However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
> > > anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
> > > Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become
the
> > > local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of
us
> > > meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
> > > possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
> > > people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time
they
> > > suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
> > > are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!
> > >
> > > Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
> > > sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.
> > > As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider
other
> > > people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection
and
> > > thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
> > > misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> > > information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> > > that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
> > > known quote in communication is the following:
> > >
> > > "The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
> > > impossible to be misunderstood."
> > >
> > > A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
> > > "frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
> > > react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the
so
> > > called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that
you
> > > pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
> > > average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.
> > > They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek
to
> > > share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
> > > and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
> > > what was actually witnessed.
> > >
> > > Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something
if
> > > you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
> > > ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.
Wake
> > > up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
> > > authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
> > > well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the
way
> > > you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
> > > once!
> > >
> > > AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying
> > >
> > > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Clyve,
> > > >
> > > > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel
it
> >was
> > > > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
> >answer
> > > > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
> >split
> > > > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> > > >
> > > > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing
the
> > > > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially
split
> >from
> > > > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
> >although
> > > > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level
glaciated
> > > > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was
that
> >of a
> > > > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
> >noticed
> > > > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during
this
> > > > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained
however
> >there
> > > > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
> >appeared
> > > > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
> >curving. I
> > > > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth
pulse
> > > > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the
order
> >of 20
> > > > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > > > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
> >minutes and
> > > > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
> >definite
> > > > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
> >appears
> > > > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > > > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > > > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus
canopy
> >and
> > > > >so on,
> > > >
> > > > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I
suppose
> > > > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
> >identifying
> > > > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not
supercells
> >(ie
> > > > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual
methods
> >be
> > > > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > > > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is,
the
> >best
> > > > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > > > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
> >supercell,
> > > > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest
to
> >the
> > > > scientists with their available data
> > > >
> > > > >In the Darwin storm
> > > >
> > > > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
> >Darwin
> > > > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I
guess
> >there
> > > > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it
isn't a
> > > > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen
the
> >storm
> > > > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a
definite
> > > > supercell.
> > > >
> > > > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > > > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional
shear
> >the
> > > > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been
preparing a
> > > > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
> >draft on
> > > > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
> >interesting
> > > > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
> >system
> > > > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
> >believe
> > > > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of
Oklahoma
> > > > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take
advantage
> >of
> > > > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating
at
> >the
> > > > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> > > >
> > > > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
> >extended
> > > > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell)
as
> >they
> > > > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you
good
> > > > feedback.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > >
> > >
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From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: The Ingebyra Storm - 2nd January


Evening all,

Have loaded a report on the Ingebyra Pulse Storm (that got everyone's
attention that evening) of the SE corner of New South Wales on the 2nd
January.

Analysis and discussion by Clyve Herbert, stunning images provided by
Robert Alexander of Wodonga.  Many thanks to both for the time and
effort they put into the production of the report.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/02_01_04.htm

Enjoy!

Jane

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From: "Tina Jones" <bjones14 at postoffice.csu.edu.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Ingebyra Storm - 2nd January


That's pretty interesting stuff, I live in Jindabyne and was here that
day!!!

We got a bit of a storm here in Jindy, but you could tell the worst of it
went over the Cascades and down towards the Snowy.

I've certainly had some worse storms here, that is for sure!!!!  3rd of
December had a brief funnel cloud over Kalkite, sorry I didn't have my
camera.  A friend was in it and said the rain was the heaviest she had ever
seen!!!  (near East Jindabyne).

What is the "Pulse" bit of it????

Cheers

Tina.

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Subject: aus-wx: The Ingebyra Storm - 2nd January


Evening all,

Have loaded a report on the Ingebyra Pulse Storm (that got everyone's
attention that evening) of the SE corner of New South Wales on the 2nd
January.

Analysis and discussion by Clyve Herbert, stunning images provided by
Robert Alexander of Wodonga.  Many thanks to both for the time and
effort they put into the production of the report.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/02_01_04.htm

Enjoy!

Jane

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Hi Jane.
Great Report.. I also got the same photo of the storm and im in Wagga 
so it was a long way but my camera`s zoom was put to the test and it 
didn`t do a good job. :(
(2/January/2004)
http://www.weatherwatching.net/gallery/view_album.php?
set_albumName=album45

Quote from the Weatherzone Glossary
http://www.weatherzone.com.au/misc/glossary.jsp?letter=P
-----------------
Pulse storm  A thunderstorm within which a brief period (pulse) of 
strong updraft occurs, during and immediately after which the storm 
produces a short episode of severe weather. These storms generally are 
not tornado producers, but often produce large hail and/or damaging 
winds. See air mass thunderstorm, cyclic storm.  
---------------------
> That's pretty interesting stuff, I live in Jindabyne and was here 
that
> day!!!
> 
> We got a bit of a storm here in Jindy, but you could tell the worst 
of it
> went over the Cascades and down towards the Snowy.
> 
> I've certainly had some worse storms here, that is for sure!!!!  3rd 
of
> December had a brief funnel cloud over Kalkite, sorry I didn't have 
my
> camera.  A friend was in it and said the rain was the heaviest she 
had ever
> seen!!!  (near East Jindabyne).
> 
> What is the "Pulse" bit of it????
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tina.
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2004 10:26 PM
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> 
> 
> Evening all,
> 
> Have loaded a report on the Ingebyra Pulse Storm (that got everyone's
> attention that evening) of the SE corner of New South Wales on the 
2nd
> January.
> 
> Analysis and discussion by Clyve Herbert, stunning images provided by
> Robert Alexander of Wodonga.  Many thanks to both for the time and
> effort they put into the production of the report.
> 
> http://www.stormchasers.au.com/02_01_04.htm
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Jane
> 
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Hi Chas,

Have a look here...
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/tdays_light.shtml

Regs, Paul.
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> Thanks Simon
>
> I was very interested in the Thunder Day map.
> It is  derived from Bom observers so it has hot spots where they are
> located. I would love to compare this map with one derived by a
> lightning tracker system.
>
> Chas
> Bedourie Qld


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Hi Jane,

How much rotation Jane? That is the key.

Refer to this comment I wrote to Clyve:

"Well I thought that would be obvious. Ones that produce significant 
rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a tornado 
from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high on the 
confidence level."

Which part of this statement involving observation of the naked eye did you 
not understand? When one watches the US videos, they get to really see the 
rate of rotation that spawns even weak tornadoes from mesocyclones. Very 
few storms/supercells here exhibit this sort of behaviour. Of course, the 
closer you are, the better but even from several kilometres distance, 
significant rotation of a wall cloud is obvious. No requirement to use 
timelapse. This sort of behaviour would certainly indicate supercell 
behaviour. When distance from the supercell increases and/ observed 
rotation decreases, surely the confidence level decreases. This is not to 
say the storm is not a supercell but one should attach the word "probable", 
"possible" or whatever. Of course it the storm produces a significant 
tornado, then of course your confidence level goes up. Classic situation 
was 13th October 2002 near Niangala. We suspected that the storm should be 
supercellular but from our angle and the angle of other chasers, it was not 
obvious beyond reasonable doubt. We did suspect it though. Confirmation 
came from the tornado that was verified. Another photograph from another 
angle sent to me also shows better observational perspective of the storm. 
I hope this explains it better.

By the way, you were on the cell Jane - what did you experience from your 
angle? Stills? Photographs?

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

At 12:13 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>Are you suggesting that no storm outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar
>can be classified as a supercell even if it does show rotation that can
>be observed with the naked eye?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jane
>
>
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Thanks Paul

Chas
Bedourie Qld


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Hi Chas,

Have a look here...
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/climatology/thunder/tdays_light.s
html

Regs, Paul.
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> Thanks Simon
>
> I was very interested in the Thunder Day map.
> It is  derived from Bom observers so it has hot spots where they are
> located. I would love to compare this map with one derived by a
> lightning tracker system.
>
> Chas
> Bedourie Qld


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Excellent Jane can't wait to see the footage.<br><br>
The same was said with the Darwin &quot;storm&quot;. How does it rate on
your confidence scale.<br><br>
Regards,<br><br>
Jimmy Deguara<br><br>
At 07:48 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>Morning
Jimmy, </font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>you as yet haven't answered my
question in the last email, which was</font><br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>&gt;Are you suggesting that no
storm outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar<br>
&gt;can be classified as a supercell even if it does show rotation that
can<br>
&gt;be observed with the naked eye?.</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">What are your thoughts on
this?</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>..but in response to this from
an earlier email from you,</font><br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>&gt;Ones that produce
significant <br>
&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a
tornado <br>
&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high on the
<br>
&gt;confidence level.</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>If you are considering this
aspect, then Katamatite rates very high on the confidence level as you
could see it rotating with the naked eye. Timelapse, as you admitted
yourself when you watched Paul Graham's timelapse imagery at the ASWA
Conference in 2002, certainly can be most impressive!!</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>Cheers,</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>Jane</font><br>
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Damien, it is the rot from an e-mail such as this and Anthony's that should 
be off this list. Anyone on this list read what they feel, delete what they 
want.

Back to the science as Brett suggested.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

At 07:56 AM 1/7/04 +1000, you wrote:
>G'day All,     I have to agree with Anthony.   I haven't personally bothered
>to read Mr Deguaras posts for quite some time. Inevitably they become a
>diatribe of  self proclaimed expertise. Which is a shame. I am on this list
>to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
>interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.
>
>Damien Howes
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:46 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Jimmy,
> >
> > Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your own
> > posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most likely
> > you are questioning:
> >
> > a) Whether the storm actually split
> > b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not
> >
> > However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
> > anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
> > Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
> > local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of us
> > meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
> > possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
> > people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time they
> > suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
> > are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!
> >
> > Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
> > sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.
> > As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider other
> > people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection and
> > thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
> > misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> > information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> > that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
> > known quote in communication is the following:
> >
> > "The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
> > impossible to be misunderstood."
> >
> > A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
> > "frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
> > react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the so
> > called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that you
> > pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
> > average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.
> > They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek to
> > share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
> > and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
> > what was actually witnessed.
> >
> > Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something if
> > you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
> > ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.  Wake
> > up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
> > authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
> > well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the way
> > you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
> > once!
> >
> > AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying
> >
> > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Clyve,
> > >
> > > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it
>was
> > > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
>answer
> > > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
>split
> > > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> > >
> > > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split
>from
> > > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
>although
> > > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that
>of a
> > > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
>noticed
> > > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however
>there
> > > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
>appeared
> > > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
>curving. I
> > > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order
>of 20
> > > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
>minutes and
> > > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
>definite
> > > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
>appears
> > > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy
>and
> > > >so on,
> > >
> > > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
>identifying
> > > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells
>(ie
> > > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods
>be
> > > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the
>best
> > > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
>supercell,
> > > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to
>the
> > > scientists with their available data
> > >
> > > >In the Darwin storm
> > >
> > > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
>Darwin
> > > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess
>there
> > > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the
>storm
> > > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > > supercell.
> > >
> > > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear
>the
> > > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
>draft on
> > > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
>interesting
> > > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
>system
> > > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
>believe
> > > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage
>of
> > > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at
>the
> > > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> > >
> > > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
>extended
> > > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as
>they
> > > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jimmy Deguara
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Hi Jane,<br><br>
At 09:25 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">Hi
again Jimmy,</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">same answer about the Darwin supercell
as to the Katamatite supercell........great rotation - but you had to be
there to see it - it was a real pity that you couldn't&nbsp; have been in
Darwin with everyone else during November!!</font></blockquote><br>
I heard anyone that went to Darwin had a great holiday. Fantastic! Others
enjoyed their stay here catching some impressive storms.<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">btw, what was the answer to my
question about the Doppler?</font></blockquote><br>
I have answered the question twice.<br><br>
Jimmy<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>&nbsp;<br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">Jane</font><br>
<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">--------------------------------<br>
Jane ONeill - Melbourne<br>
<a href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">aussky at iprimus.com.au</a><br>
&nbsp;<br>
Australian Sky &amp; Weather<br>
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&nbsp;<br>
Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)<br>
<a href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au">http://www.severeweather.asn.au</a>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
***The journey is the reward***<br>
--------------------------------</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;
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<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com">Jimmy Deguara</a> 
<dd>To:</b> <a href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com">aussie-weather at world.std.com</a> 
<dd>Sent:</b> Thursday, 8 January 2004 3:55
<dd>Subject:</b> Re: Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North &amp; Katamatite Supercell report<br><br>

<dd>Excellent Jane can't wait to see the footage.<br><br>

<dd>The same was said with the Darwin &quot;storm&quot;. How does it rate on your confidence scale.<br><br>

<dd>Regards,<br><br>

<dd>Jimmy Deguara<br><br>

<dd>At 07:48 AM 1/7/04 +1100, you wrote:<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>Morning Jimmy, </font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>you as yet haven't answered my question in the last email, which was</font><font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>&gt;Are you suggesting that no storm outside 150km radius of a Doppler radar
<dd>&gt;can be classified as a supercell even if it does show rotation that can
<dd>&gt;be observed with the naked eye?.</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva">
<dd>What are your thoughts on this?</font>
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>..but in response to this from an earlier email from you,</font><font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>&gt;Ones that produce significant 
<dd>&gt;rotation that does not even require timelapse or those that spawn a tornado 
<dd>&gt;from a rapidly rotating wall cloud are perhaps going rate high on the 
<dd>&gt;confidence level.</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>If you are considering this aspect, then Katamatite rates very high on the confidence level as you could see it rotating with the naked eye. Timelapse, as you admitted yourself when you watched Paul Graham's timelapse imagery at the ASWA Conference in 2002, certainly can be most impressive!!</font>
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>Cheers,</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<font face="MS Sans Serif, Geneva" size=2>
<dd>Jane</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br><br>

<dd>--------------------------------
<dd>Jane ONeill - Melbourne
<dd><a href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">aussky at iprimus.com.au</a>
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>Australian Sky &amp; Weather
<dd><a href="http://www.australianskynweather.com">http://www.australianskynweather.com</a>
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
<dd><a href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au">http://www.severeweather.asn.au</a> 
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>***The journey is the reward***
<dd>--------------------------------
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>&nbsp;
<dd>&nbsp;<br><br>

<dd>&nbsp;</blockquote>
<dd>-----------------------------------------
<dd>Jimmy Deguara
<dd>Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
<dd>Mob: 0408020468<br><br>

<dd>Australian Severe Weather Home Page
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Subject: aus-wx: Australian Storm Chasers meeting 17th January 2004


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Hi,

The January 17th 2004 meeting agenda for the Australian Storm Chasers. 
Membership and past/present newsletters are completely free - ask for 
further details.

This meeting should provide an excellent variety for those in attendance. 
Knowledge is not required for these meetings as we explain things to you.

The BBQ will begin just before 5pm. (JUST A REMINDER - OCCASIONALLY IF 
THERE IS A STORM CHASE ON THE MEETING AND BBQ MAY BE DELAYED. PLEASE CHECK 
NOTICES AS TO THE MEETING DEFINITELY GOING AHEAD - only distant chases 
cancel meetings). Call 0408020468 - keep this number handy :) Anyone who 
attends the meeting, feel free to help yourself to a cup of coffee and drinks.

Being a BBQ meeting, the BBQ will begin by 5pm and the meeting / 
presentations 6:30pm. If you cannot make the BBQ or the start of the 
meeting, feel free to come along whatever time you can make it. The 
presentations are well worth attending and will last until 10:30pm mark.

The meeting program for the evening:

Presentation 1)

Matthew Piper will present a program for a discussion on atmospheric 
soundings and how to understand them. In his presentations, Matthew will 
slowly go through the important aspects, features and definitions of 
soundings. This has been pitched at a basic level.


Presentation 2)

Nick Moir has offered to do a slide presentation on recent storms and more 
from his extensive collection of bushfire pictures.

Presentation 3)

Jeff Brislane and Matthew Piper will lead a discussion supported by video 
on the recent chases including a squall line that engulfs Mt Cannobolis 
near Orange as well as other recent chases. More edited video - sit back 
and relax. Jeff may have developed slides of the lightning that few know 
about in Sydney's west 4th January 2004.

Presentation 4)

Jimmy Deguara will present development and important features of the 
supercell with beaver tail near Coff Harbour 5th November 
2000. 
http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/thumbs/2000/1105jd30.jpg

Presentation 5)

Brett Vilnis will present the 1994 bushfires. This documentary footage of 
the violent bushfire outbreaks of 1994 is from a professional videographer. 
If you have watched only footage on the news of bushfires, it doesn't 
always portray the reality of being up close and personal. I am sure those 
on this forum who were affected by bushfires in recent years know the reality.

The venue:

Level 2 245 George Street
WINDSOR, NSW 2756

http://australiasevereweather.com/temp/maps/mapwindsor.gif

Please contact Brett Vilnis to register interest in attending 
manager at myisp.net.au

On that evening, you can phone 0408020468 as we need to let people in the 
security door.


Future meetings preview:

Still need to prepare for a feature presentation on the 23rd March 1997 
severe storm outbreak. The model information, photographs and video of the 
event.

Postponed due to presentations list above.

Surprise presentation on a tornadic event. Again the following meeting as 
we have gone over the quota.

All interested people are welcome to attend.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

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Jimmy Deguara
Storm Chaser and Mathematics Teacher
Mob: 0408020468

Australian Severe Weather Home Page
http://www.australiasevereweather.com

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Jimmy Deguara
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Hi David,

My email was directed at the way I perceive (and judging by comments
from other people), how others perceive both yours and Jimmy's posts.  I
did highlight that most of this was directed towards Jimmy - perhaps you
missed it:

>Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
>local "bullies"

It was not a personal attack, rather the hope for an eye-opener.  I have
tried many times to try and resolve things but emails and messages get
ignored, so obviously there is no intention by anyone to resolve things,
either that or people are choking on their pride!  Things have become so
silly, it's a shame that we can't just move on and get on with things. 
My thoughts on this matter do not reflect what I believe, but do reflect
my actions.  Perhaps in the future when people are willing to swallow
their pride and stop holding grudges, then these petty factions and
divisions in  the weather community will be bridged.

Also, I did not involve the associations that you belong to in respect
for those in it.  My thoughts lie with you and Jimmy, not TBT or ASC -
nor do I hold anything against employees of TBT or members of ASC (I
have friends in both!)  If you have a gripe with me - then by all means
take it out on me, but don't try and involve the associations I belong
to!  I have extended this courtesy to you and hold your opinions and
actions as your own and not associations that you belong to and would
appreciate the same courtesy in return.  

I honestly don't understand why you keep coming back with things like
"Jimmy is the best stormchaser" etc - who cares?  Who cares who gets
what, how they get it and when they get it so long as they get what they
want!!!  And what they want is different to what other people want -
everyone enjoys weather on different levels, it does not mean some one
is better, more passionate or more successful than other people. 
Success and failure are relative to individuals only, they are not
applicable to everyone in the same way.  My motto has always been the
same:  I don't care who gets it, so long as they get it so we can all
enjoy the photos, videos and the stories.

You have my opinion and perceptions of your behaviour and have received
independent responses from other people.  What you do with it is up to
you.  For the record, I have many friends and family who are ESLs just
like Jimmy - yet their communication method is perfectly fine because
they take the time to consider how other people might respond or react
to it.  I certainly don't believe that Jimmy is unintelligent and see no
reason why Jimmy cannot do the same.  How you say something often means
more than what you say.

If you would like to continue this discussion through private email or
by other means, I'd be more than happy if it gave the possibility of
trying to seek even so much as an understanding.  I make no apologies if
this "conflict" helps seek an understand and a pathway to
resolution...even if it does seem like a paradox!

AC

David Croan wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony:
> 
> I am astonished at your post. Where did all that come from? Your post was
> directed at Jimmy but, in writing around me, you broadside me for good
> measure! Jimmy and I are not a tag team. I agree with him on one point in
> particular.
> 
> If the points I was trying to get across has been lost in my several short
> e-mails, they are:
> 
> (i) BoM 'confirmation' to me has nothing to do with doubting anyone's
> oppinion at all. Rather, it would suggest that the BoM have made some sort
> of qualitative or quantitative measurement, and that the storm met certain
> criteria. For the bulk of Australia that is not possible, from what i
> understand. I think any reasonably experienced observer knows what kinda
> storm they are dealing with, and I have seldon questioned others
> classification of storms. In what appear to be dubious calls I have
> occasionally. Point is, if the Bom have a means of confirm one's own field
> classification then I'd like to know, well at the least it would be
> gratifying.
> 
> (ii) To me the Katamatite storm is one that quite simply looks like a
> supercell. I thought Macca's report and chase were beaut!
> 
> (iii) In agreement with what Jimmy posted, from what I see in the photos and
> given the conditions, I cant imagine that such a long-lived powerful storm
> was anti-cyclonic. That is no way to say it isn't, but, if so, quite
> remarkable that's all - really!
> 
> I find it dissapointing, the fact that you have bundled my posts with
> Jimmy's and labelled the two of us arrogant. Not at all because I want to
> distance myself from Jimmy's posts, but simply because you know that we run
> Tours together. We also attend ASC meetings which you perceive to be a
> threat to ASWA. You accuse me of being a bully in the few posts that I have
> made on this issue -- I leave others to decide on that. Why dont you snip
> out the bits of my e-mails that you find to be bullying.
> 
> Brett was spot on with the ego comment - yours Anthony. This is nothing but
> you lnyching Jimmy and I. You have simply taken advantage of your 'status'
> as aswa President and used this opportunity to group the two of us and write
> 'the group' off as being arrogant! Your aim is that all the members and
> 'newbies'  will all adopt your own attitude -- assume that you must be
> right. As evidenced already, in many cases perhaps that will be the case -
> more power to you Anthony! You have earnt respect for your good knowledge of
> general weather and in helping others learn as well - which is great. It is
> just a shame that you use that respect to hurt others where you feel a
> threat. Jimmy is obviously public enemy number one to you because it is fair
> to say he takes storm chasing to an almost spiritual level and, as a chaser,
> he is more skilled and successful than anyone else in this country - yet he
> is no longer formally associated with ASWA. He established AMOS Weather
> Watch and one of the ASWA founders as well. "What gives" people must be
> thinking, "why is this guy not involved with ASWA" (well you could enlighten
> people!)! You cant exactly say he is lousy at sniffing out a storm, so your
> only option is to make him out to be an arrogant jerk. To you I am just an
> accessory of his so I must be a jerk too! And same goes for all the others
> who dont patronise you. Unlike you, I dont have the time to cruise the
> Australian weather social circuit, IRC etc. In otherwords, I am not there to
> wash the mud off that perhaps might be thrown my way by people like you.
> 
> Finally, though it doesn't affect me directly, I really do find this sort of
> personal attack to be really quite low (I assume directed to Jimmy).
> 
> >Quit with the "everyone
> >misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> >information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> >that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.
> 
> The subtlety of written English can make all the difference, and you know
> for Jimmy it his second language. Of the people who know Jimmy well in
> person, I doubt there would be one who would find him arrogant.
> 
> Anyway, sorry to other listers, --  however, when one goes public with a
> personal attack the victims should have the right of reply.
> 
> and now, back to more discussion.
> 
> regards,
> 
> David
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Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:37:44 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


Anthony Cornelius wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> My email was directed at the way I perceive (and judging by comments
> from other people), how others perceive both yours and Jimmy's posts.  I
> did highlight that most of this was directed towards Jimmy - perhaps you
> missed it:
> 
> >Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become the
> >local "bullies"
> 
> It was not a personal attack, rather the hope for an eye-opener.  I have
> tried many times to try and resolve things but emails and messages get
> ignored, so obviously there is no intention by anyone to resolve things,
> either that or people are choking on their pride!  Things have become so
> silly, it's a shame that we can't just move on and get on with things.
> My thoughts on this matter do not reflect what I believe, but do reflect
> my actions.  Perhaps in the future when people are willing to swallow
> their pride and stop holding grudges, then these petty factions and
> divisions in  the weather community will be bridged.
> 
> Also, I did not involve the associations that you belong to in respect
> for those in it.  My thoughts lie with you and Jimmy, not TBT or ASC -
> nor do I hold anything against employees of TBT or members of ASC (I
> have friends in both!)  If you have a gripe with me - then by all means
> take it out on me, but don't try and involve the associations I belong
> to!  I have extended this courtesy to you and hold your opinions and
> actions as your own and not associations that you belong to and would
> appreciate the same courtesy in return.
> 
> I honestly don't understand why you keep coming back with things like
> "Jimmy is the best stormchaser" etc - who cares?  Who cares who gets
> what, how they get it and when they get it so long as they get what they
> want!!!  And what they want is different to what other people want -
> everyone enjoys weather on different levels, it does not mean some one
> is better, more passionate or more successful than other people.
> Success and failure are relative to individuals only, they are not
> applicable to everyone in the same way.  My motto has always been the
> same:  I don't care who gets it, so long as they get it so we can all
> enjoy the photos, videos and the stories.
> 
> You have my opinion and perceptions of your behaviour and have received
> independent responses from other people.  What you do with it is up to
> you.  For the record, I have many friends and family who are ESLs just
> like Jimmy - yet their communication method is perfectly fine because
> they take the time to consider how other people might respond or react
> to it.  I certainly don't believe that Jimmy is unintelligent and see no
> reason why Jimmy cannot do the same.  How you say something often means
> more than what you say.
> 
> If you would like to continue this discussion through private email or
> by other means, I'd be more than happy if it gave the possibility of
> trying to seek even so much as an understanding.  I make no apologies if
> this "conflict" helps seek an understand and a pathway to
> resolution...even if it does seem like a paradox!
> 
> AC
> 
> David Croan wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anthony:
> >
> > I am astonished at your post. Where did all that come from? Your post was
> > directed at Jimmy but, in writing around me, you broadside me for good
> > measure! Jimmy and I are not a tag team. I agree with him on one point in
> > particular.
> >
> > If the points I was trying to get across has been lost in my several short
> > e-mails, they are:
> >
> > (i) BoM 'confirmation' to me has nothing to do with doubting anyone's
> > oppinion at all. Rather, it would suggest that the BoM have made some sort
> > of qualitative or quantitative measurement, and that the storm met certain
> > criteria. For the bulk of Australia that is not possible, from what i
> > understand. I think any reasonably experienced observer knows what kinda
> > storm they are dealing with, and I have seldon questioned others
> > classification of storms. In what appear to be dubious calls I have
> > occasionally. Point is, if the Bom have a means of confirm one's own field
> > classification then I'd like to know, well at the least it would be
> > gratifying.
> >
> > (ii) To me the Katamatite storm is one that quite simply looks like a
> > supercell. I thought Macca's report and chase were beaut!
> >
> > (iii) In agreement with what Jimmy posted, from what I see in the photos and
> > given the conditions, I cant imagine that such a long-lived powerful storm
> > was anti-cyclonic. That is no way to say it isn't, but, if so, quite
> > remarkable that's all - really!
> >
> > I find it dissapointing, the fact that you have bundled my posts with
> > Jimmy's and labelled the two of us arrogant. Not at all because I want to
> > distance myself from Jimmy's posts, but simply because you know that we run
> > Tours together. We also attend ASC meetings which you perceive to be a
> > threat to ASWA. You accuse me of being a bully in the few posts that I have
> > made on this issue -- I leave others to decide on that. Why dont you snip
> > out the bits of my e-mails that you find to be bullying.
> >
> > Brett was spot on with the ego comment - yours Anthony. This is nothing but
> > you lnyching Jimmy and I. You have simply taken advantage of your 'status'
> > as aswa President and used this opportunity to group the two of us and write
> > 'the group' off as being arrogant! Your aim is that all the members and
> > 'newbies'  will all adopt your own attitude -- assume that you must be
> > right. As evidenced already, in many cases perhaps that will be the case -
> > more power to you Anthony! You have earnt respect for your good knowledge of
> > general weather and in helping others learn as well - which is great. It is
> > just a shame that you use that respect to hurt others where you feel a
> > threat. Jimmy is obviously public enemy number one to you because it is fair
> > to say he takes storm chasing to an almost spiritual level and, as a chaser,
> > he is more skilled and successful than anyone else in this country - yet he
> > is no longer formally associated with ASWA. He established AMOS Weather
> > Watch and one of the ASWA founders as well. "What gives" people must be
> > thinking, "why is this guy not involved with ASWA" (well you could enlighten
> > people!)! You cant exactly say he is lousy at sniffing out a storm, so your
> > only option is to make him out to be an arrogant jerk. To you I am just an
> > accessory of his so I must be a jerk too! And same goes for all the others
> > who dont patronise you. Unlike you, I dont have the time to cruise the
> > Australian weather social circuit, IRC etc. In otherwords, I am not there to
> > wash the mud off that perhaps might be thrown my way by people like you.
> >
> > Finally, though it doesn't affect me directly, I really do find this sort of
> > personal attack to be really quite low (I assume directed to Jimmy).
> >
> > >Quit with the "everyone
> > >misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> > >information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> > >that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.
> >
> > The subtlety of written English can make all the difference, and you know
> > for Jimmy it his second language. Of the people who know Jimmy well in
> > person, I doubt there would be one who would find him arrogant.
> >
> > Anyway, sorry to other listers, --  however, when one goes public with a
> > personal attack the victims should have the right of reply.
> >
> > and now, back to more discussion.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > David
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OK guys, time out.

As an "outsider" in all this, but a fellow traveller of sorts for a few years, I have been reading
some of these posts with increasing dismay.

Time for a little sermon on the mount from a 50 year old, part time, very inactive weather follower,
who, has over the years, gained considerable knowledge and enjoyment from the posts, chases, photos
and web sites, of some of the more active and prominent members of this "community".  Note
"community".

<SERMON>
May I just point out, that public brawls are detrimental to all concerned, and to weather
enthusiasts in general.

The media have in recent times made some use of community resources, mostly positively.  If this
brawl keeps up, sooner or later they will sniff a different story, and then their full wrath, ie,
their penchant for sensation, scandal, feud, etc, you know the media, may be incurred.

Do you want to get "media tagged" the way chasers are in the US media ?

All take a deep breath, and think about it.

If you want to continue the brawl, do it off list.
</SERMON>

Regards all,
PC
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: The Ingebyra Storm - 2nd January


Just read the report, an excellent read, thanks!

David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com

 

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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Jane ONeill
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Subject: aus-wx: The Ingebyra Storm - 2nd January

Evening all,

Have loaded a report on the Ingebyra Pulse Storm (that got everyone's
attention that evening) of the SE corner of New South Wales on the 2nd
January.

Analysis and discussion by Clyve Herbert, stunning images provided by
Robert Alexander of Wodonga.  Many thanks to both for the time and
effort they put into the production of the report.

http://www.stormchasers.au.com/02_01_04.htm

Enjoy!

Jane

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Australian Sky & Weather
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Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
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Subject: aus-wx:  Sydney Wind and Now Smoke


Hi everyone,

After  the wind, now comes the fire.  We can see smoke to the west of Mona
Vale.  Does anyone know where the bushfire is?

Judy Mayo

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From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: Re: Fw: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report


>The Shepparton convection evolved out of a storm that moved through
>Bendigo hours beforehand, which coincides with an assertion made in
>Weisman (JAS 1993) that the formation of a mid-level rear inflow jet
and attendant bookend vortices occur later in
>the lifetime of a convective system

The BoM confirmed that the Bendigo storm had moved away to the southeast
before this.

and

>The Yarrawonga radar loop on Macca's web page
>suggests to me that this storm was probably an embedded HP supercell
>marking the NW end of a NE travelling bow echo.

So Harald is suggesting here that one (or both) of these cells were
supercells?

Cheers,

Jane

PS: it would probably also help if Harald had all of the emails
forwarded to him so that he had all of information rather than just one
of the emails which is only part of the information that had been
discussed prior to this point.
PPS: could you reproduce the entire email from Harald about this event
rather than cutting and pasting only some bits out of it - it makes it
incredibly hard to follow logically.

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
aussky at iprimus.com.au

Australian Sky & Weather
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Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
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From: "Craig Arthur" <carthur at theweather.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx:  Sydney Wind and Now Smoke


Channel Ten news mentioned Akuna Bay as the site of the fire in the metro
area's north. Fires are also reported near Cranebrook and between Wilton
and Appin in the south. The Wilton/Appin fire is reportedly giving the most
concern (according to Ch10).

Craig

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Hi everyone,

After  the wind, now comes the fire.  We can see smoke to the west of Mona
Vale.  Does anyone know where the bushfire is?

Judy Mayo

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From: "Peter Konnecke" <konno at optusnet.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx:  Sydney Wind and Now Smoke


Judy,

I was driving along Chiltern Road Ingleside and saw the smoke. The fire
is approx half way between Cottage Point and Akuna Bay. The wind up along
Minkara Road was howling along about that time (17:10).

According to the Rural Fires Service press release at 1700, there were also
six more ignitions along the Bobbin Head / Kuringai chase Roads in the
vicinity
of the Kalkari Visitors Centre.

Sounds like another fire starter has been out for the day.

Peter

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Hi everyone,

After  the wind, now comes the fire.  We can see smoke to the west of Mona
Vale.  Does anyone know where the bushfire is?

Judy Mayo

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Apparently around Akuna Bay somewhere


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> Hi everyone,
>
> After  the wind, now comes the fire.  We can see smoke to the west of Mona
> Vale.  Does anyone know where the bushfire is?
>
> Judy Mayo
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From: "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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<DIV>Hi Jimmy.<BR>As I have said,&nbsp; I am in the process of preparing a paper 
on the Katamatite storm which will include discussion on (hypothesis) How, Why 
and Conclusion. It appears that this paper will be lengthy judging by the keen 
interest this storm has generated and I am looking forward to releasing it to 
the public and scientific fraternity for analysis as I do with all of my papers, 
reports and publications. The report will include dozens of Photographs some of 
very high resolution and significant video analysis,including discussion by 
qualified senior Meteorologists, all of this will take time as I am also in the 
process of writing other reports and papers as well( On behalf of ASWA Victoria 
and nationally). It would be very difficult to discuss this event in broken 
emails and bits and pieces it is not fair to anybody.....However, I will be 
happy at the completion of the report..Titled KATAMATITE A CASE OF AN 
ANTICYCLONICALLY ROTATING MESO LOW AND ASSOCIATED SUPERCELL BEHAVIOUR. North 
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At 12:37 PM 8/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:

>All take a deep breath, and think about it.
>
>If you want to continue the brawl, do it off list.


Agreed Peter.  Let's get back to the weather :)

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Richard,

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and it shows in your 
e-mail below. You need some lessons from Anthony:

  <<<"The key to good communication is not to be understood,
but to be impossible to be misunderstood.">>> AC

Cheers and my apologies to others who have bothered to read either of these 
pair of e-mails. What a waste of bandwidth.

Jimmy Deguara


At 09:29 PM 1/7/04 +1030, you wrote:
>and so says the one with the features of a well worn ugg boot,
>rot like most other things is in the eye of the beholder,
><<<Welcome aboard. Wow!!! What an e-mail though too predictable Anthony:)>>>
>this patronising, condesending, yellow gutted,spineless
>garbage is more than enough to make one want to
>deposit ones lunch onto the floor in front of oneself.
>the wisdom of travel and experience hath manifested itself as
>a self serving stool with no tongue, the wolfenstien agressor
>within betrays the sheepish innocence of your vocation.
>  <<<"The key to good communication is not to be understood,
>but to be impossible to be misunderstood.">>> AC
>profound words of wisdom from a person 10x your stature
>and according to the above you have failed miserably,
>in a similar league to steve irwin and michael jackson.
>you blame others for whats occurred on the list and as usual
>your an innocent bystander, all this "rot" would not have
>occurred if you had not been the root cause of the problem
>to start with, stuck up comes to mind from a previous post
>and is being enhanced as time goes on, some will come
>to your defence but is of no relavance, even the most
>brutal of murders have advocates who will stand up
>and defend them to the end.
>
><<<I am on this list
>to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
>interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.
>Damien Howes>>>
>
><<<I hope this mailing list would be about weather, not politics and ego's.
>brett>>>
>
>not a butt ugly chance in hell of that happening, don't get pissed off,
>join in the fun and have a flaming good time.
>if this is what it takes to activate the list after months if sparse posts
>then so be it. maybe it will spur some of the more infrequentent
>posters, me included to report more on weather as it happens.
>
>RM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:41 AM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Damien, it is the rot from an e-mail such as this and Anthony's that
>should
> > be off this list. Anyone on this list read what they feel, delete what
>they
> > want.
> >
> > Back to the science as Brett suggested.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > At 07:56 AM 1/7/04 +1000, you wrote:
> > >G'day All,     I have to agree with Anthony.   I haven't personally
>bothered
> > >to read Mr Deguaras posts for quite some time. Inevitably they become a
> > >diatribe of  self proclaimed expertise. Which is a shame. I am on this
>list
> > >to be informed - not to be subjected to this rot every time something of
> > >interest occurs.  Mr Deguara could you please keep this in mind.
> > >
> > >Damien Howes
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 5:46 PM
> > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Jimmy,
> > > >
> > > > Exactly what are you trying to achieve?  I've re-read David and your
>own
> > > > posts several times and now have come to the conclusion that most
>likely
> > > > you are questioning:
> > > >
> > > > a) Whether the storm actually split
> > > > b) Whether the leftmover exhibited anti-cyclonic rotation or not
> > > >
> > > > However this message appears to be lost in your relentless
> > > > anti-supercellular campaign that has been going on for far too long.
> > > > Both you and (admittedly to a much lesser extent) David have become
>the
> > > > local "bullies" - the vigil anties trying to improve the knowledge of
>us
> > > > meager amateurs who are obviously too inexperienced and uneducated to
> > > > possibly even know what a supercell is.  Enough is enough already,
> > > > people are tired of constantly being put on trial every single time
>they
> > > > suggest or label something as a supercell.  Yet the moment the tables
> > > > are turned, then that is being disrespectful.  How hypocritical!
> > > >
> > > > Good science is more than about accuracy, it's also about good
> > > > sportsmanship - we all enjoy storms and we're all out there to learn.
> > > > As foreign a concept as this is to you, it's time to also consider
>other
> > > > people's feelings when you make posts.  A little self introspection
>and
> > > > thought in words can go a long way.  Quit with the "everyone
> > > > misunderstands me" nonsense - it is up to the conveyor to ensure that
> > > > information and communication is delivered and presented in such a way
> > > > that its intended meaning is conveyed across to other people.  A well
> > > > known quote in communication is the following:
> > > >
> > > > "The key to good communication is not to be understood, but to be
> > > > impossible to be misunderstood."
> > > >
> > > > A little more care in your delivery may actually prevent all of the
> > > > "frustration" that you profess to experience because of the way people
> > > > react when you post things.  Quit the bullying of other people in the
>so
> > > > called "name of science."  No one here (and certainly not those that
>you
> > > > pick on, ie those who seem to be a little more experienced than the
> > > > average amateur), is out there to raise eyebrows and impress everyone.
> > > > They're out there because they love storms and weather, and only seek
>to
> > > > share this experience with other people.  Remember, they were there -
> > > > and you weren't.  What we see in pictures is often quite different to
> > > > what was actually witnessed.
> > > >
> > > > Honestly - you guys must be bored with the storm season or something
>if
> > > > you have nothing better to do than monitor *every single report* to
> > > > ensure whether or not it was "correctly" labelled as a supercell.
>Wake
> > > > up and get a reality check - you guys are not the overuling "supercell
> > > > authority."  And while your aspirations of "accurate science" may be
> > > > well intentioned, there are much better ways to go about it then the
>way
> > > > you go by them.  Lead by example and remove your double standards for
> > > > once!
> > > >
> > > > AC - one of the many frustrated by your bullying
> > > >
> > > > Jimmy Deguara wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Clyve,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel
>it
> > >was
> > > > > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
> > >answer
> > > > > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
> > >split
> > > > > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> > > > >
> > > > > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > > > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing
>the
> > > > > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially
>split
> > >from
> > > > > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
> > >although
> > > > > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level
>glaciated
> > > > > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was
>that
> > >of a
> > > > > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
> > >noticed
> > > > > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during
>this
> > > > > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained
>however
> > >there
> > > > > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
> > >appeared
> > > > > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
> > >curving. I
> > > > > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth
>pulse
> > > > > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the
>order
> > >of 20
> > > > > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > > > > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
> > >minutes and
> > > > > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
> > >definite
> > > > > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
> > >appears
> > > > > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > > > > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > > > > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus
>canopy
> > >and
> > > > > >so on,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I
>suppose
> > > > > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
> > >identifying
> > > > > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not
>supercells
> > >(ie
> > > > > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual
>methods
> > >be
> > > > > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > > > > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is,
>the
> > >best
> > > > > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > > > > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
> > >supercell,
> > > > > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest
>to
> > >the
> > > > > scientists with their available data
> > > > >
> > > > > >In the Darwin storm
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
> > >Darwin
> > > > > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I
>guess
> > >there
> > > > > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it
>isn't a
> > > > > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen
>the
> > >storm
> > > > > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a
>definite
> > > > > supercell.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > > > > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional
>shear
> > >the
> > > > > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been
>preparing a
> > > > > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
> > >draft on
> > > > > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
> > >interesting
> > > > > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
> > >system
> > > > > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
> > >believe
> > > > > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of
>Oklahoma
> > > > > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take
>advantage
> > >of
> > > > > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating
>at
> > >the
> > > > > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
> > >extended
> > > > > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell)
>as
> > >they
> > > > > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you
>good
> > > > > feedback.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > >
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Hi Clyve et al,

I have asked for outside help in deciphering the complex situation and 
learned something in the process. I have included Harald Richter's comment 
below at the appropriate section of this e-mail:
(he has given me permission to post this).

At 04:28 PM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
>To: "M.S.C" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 4:23 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
>
>
> > Hi Jimmy I was not aware of an argument as You suggest? however The
> > Katamatite storm was a left mover and it did rotate
>anticyclonically....

"...A clean case of a splitting supercell should lead to left/right deviant
motion w.r.t. to the _shear vector_.  I seem to recall that the mid-level
shear vector over N VIC on 18 Dec 2003 was NW-SE oriented.  This should, 
ideally,
lead to a S moving right-mover and an E moving left-mover.  The multi-cored
Shepparton storm(s) moved SW-NE, suggesting to me that cold pool dynamics (an
alternative source for deviant motion) are at work here.
Also, splitting usually occurs to young cells before the cold pool dynamics 
mess
things up.  The Shepparton convection evolved out of a storm that moved 
through
Bendigo hours beforehand, which coincides with an assertion made in
Weisman (JAS 1993) that the formation
of a mid-level rear inflow jet and attendant bookend vortices occur later in
the lifetime of a convective system. ..."

In summary, the storm is "probably" an example of a "book-end vortex"  not 
a left moving supercell. The deviant motion referred to here is probably in 
reference to the system moving north east as compared to other cells well 
ahead moving southeast.

And this:

"...The whole system is dominated by outflow dynamics and becomes quite
irreverent of the ambient shear, IMO.... "

and the following

"..The Yarrawonga radar loop on Macca's web page
suggests to me that this storm was probably an embedded HP supercell
marking the NW end of a NE travelling bow echo.  The cell might be
constitute a 'bookend vortex' which you would expect to rotate
counter-clockwise."

which makes more sense imo.

In a separate message, Macca referred to this system being similar to the 
Narrandera "probable" supercell. I think the dynamics at play here are 
slightly different as the storm remained left moving for a long period of 
time in the Narrandera case. Perhaps they were similar in that a squall 
line and outflow dominance came into play just before the storm hit my region.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara


>your
> > opinion then would suggest that the only way to identify a supercell or
> > confirm a supercell is with the Doppler method does that then mean that
>all
> > supercells in NSW at a distance of greater than 150 kilometres cannot be
> > confirmed  and does that mean that all supercells that you report in
>country
> > NSW at distances of more than 150 kilometres from Sydney are
>suspect......I
> > for one never dispute your analysis of what you see on your chases but
>what
> > you are telling me here  in respect to the Katamitite SUPERCELL OR TRYING
>TO
> > QUESTION ITS EXISTENCE is EXTRAORDINARY....Clyve Herbert.....
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> >
> >
> > > Hi Clyve,
> > >
> > > Gees what a response to a small simple question I asked:) And I feel it
> > was
> > > not answered thus far - perhaps a Bureau representative may want to
>answer
> > > it or someone in the know how. That is, my comment about left moving
>split
> > > and anticyclonic behaviour.
> > >
> > > At 10:26 AM 1/6/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > >Standing in a field and watching the Katamatite storm and reviewing the
> > > >video there are two definite observations. A) The storm initially split
> > from
> > > >a line north of Shepparton and became a near stand alone system
>although
> > > >connected to its southern split storm by a band of mid level glaciated
> > > >stratiform light rain band. in the early stages its appearance was that
> > of a
> > > >strong muulticell with flanking line and was inflow dominant. B) i
> > noticed
> > > >rotation at about 1950hrs or so and this was anticyclonic, during this
> > > >period from 1950 to about 2035 the anticyclonic meso remained however
> > there
> > > >seems to be distinct pulses of inflow forcing and at times rotation
> > appeared
> > > >to affect the west and southern sides only with an arc of inflow
>curving.
> > I
> > > >tend to classify the identification of supercells with its growth pulse
> > > >rate, I.E. In normal multucells the updraft pulse rate is in the order
>of
> > 20
> > > >to 30 minutes, however in well formed and steady state type severe
> > > >multicells the updraft pulse rate increases to between 10 and 15
>minutes
> > and
> > > >sometimes the spreading of the anvil may show the pulse surges by
> > definite
> > > >outflow bands in the cirrus canopy....In Supercells the pulse rate
> > appears
> > > >to blend in a single and sustained updraft...but there are subtle
> > > >observation to be made these are a pulse rate of less than 5 minute
> > > >intervals within the updraft and a ribbing affect in the cirrus canopy
> > and
> > > >so on,
> > >
> > > This is the first I have heard of this alternative approach. I suppose
> > > years of experience has lead to a pretty good success rate in
>identifying
> > > supercells. However, if the identified supercells were not supercells
>(ie
> > > have not been confirmed as supercells or not), can these visual methods
>be
> > > at times incorrect? If so these methods can reinforce more incorrect
> > > analyses even if they are few and far between. The bottom line is, the
> > best
> > > method to confirm supercell is using doppler. Otherwise, provide the
> > > evidence and support your argument that you believe it to be a
>supercell,
> > > or use the words possible or probable in the report. Leave the rest to
>the
> > > scientists with their available data
> > >
> > >
> > > >In the Darwin storm
> > >
> > > Yes I agree. I have already come across 2 or more people who were in
> > Darwin
> > > and don't believe the storm to be nothing but a shower!!! But I guess
> > there
> > > are differences of opinions. My problem with this is that if it isn't a
> > > supercell then all those people who have seen the timelapse, seen the
> > storm
> > > or read the threads on it have pictured this in their mind as a definite
> > > supercell.
> > >
> > >
> > > >I believe rotation developed 'mechanically' due
> > > >to rather weak speed shear but an almost 360 degree directional shear
>the
> > > >Darwin sounding is very interesting indeed.....I have been preparing a
> > > >report on both the Darwin and Katamatite storms and will forward a
>draft
> > on
> > > >both events to you if you wish I think you will find them very
> > interesting
> > > >best regards Clyve H.  PS. The interesting aspect of the Katamatite
> > system
> > > >in in fact being a left mover with anticyclonic rotation this is I
> > believe
> > > >unusual and the storm would have been at home on the plains of Oklahoma
> > > >however these storms operate in an environment that will take advantage
> > of
> > > >existing bias towards the inflow outflow characteristics operating at
>the
> > > >time and of coarse many other factors as well.
> > >
> > >
> > > We'll see the report I suppose. Please submit that report to the
>extended
> > > scientific community (the likes of Harald Richter or Chuck Doswell) as
> > they
> > > really are experienced in such analyses and certainly will give you good
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Jimmy Deguara
> > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 6:31 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Clyve,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have observed a few anticyclonic supercells myself so that is not
>a
> > > > > problem - nothing unusual in that. Last time was the 26th October
>2003
> > > >when
> > > > > the we had two supercells split into left and right movers on the
> > north
> > > > > coast of NSW. The right southern mover was anticyclonic and the left
> > mover
> > > > > I cannot tell but from structure one would assume being the stronger
> > > >bigger
> > > > > of the two storms had the cyclonic form of structure. It had the
> > larger
> > > > > hail and was a larger storm.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the southern hemisphere and northern hemisphere, the left mover
>has
> > > > > clockwise rotation and the right mover counterclockwise rotation.
>This
> > is
> > > > > the case when splitting pairs occur. In the case of the Katamatite
> > storm
> > > >it
> > > > > is suggested left moving and anticyclonic contradicting a left -
>right
> > > > > moving split pair. Of course splitting from a squall line - left
> > moving
> > > > > anticyclonic I would assume is not impossible but I just felt from
>the
> > > > > photography it seemed the storm was indicative of a left mover and
> > taking
> > > > > inflow cyclonically from right to left as supercells normally do and
> > cow
> > > > > catcher woudl take inflow from near the precipitation core again
>more
> > > > > consistent with a push for cyclonic flow. That is the only confusing
> > part.
> > > > > What happened one would need to see the video as you say.
> > > > >
> > > > > Darwin no comment. I saw the video and saw narrow areas of rotation
> > that
> > > > > seemed to totally contradict the low level base rotation. If it is a
> > > > > supercell storm, I must have missed something but of course we can
>get
> > > > > verification from Darwin's doppler radar. Did the BUreau verify from
> > > > > doppler radar on this particular one? I have had nobody suggest
>this.
> > In
> > > > > fact from the video I saw, I failed to see an anvil on the storm and
> > the
> > > > > storm was back building SSW from what I could gather.
> > > > >
> > > > > Take a look at this picture:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/photography/photos/2003/1201jd08.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > > In timelapse, it moves slowly south (right moving??) and rotates
> > > > > anticyclonically. But was there sufficient rotation to indicate so
>it
> > was
> > > >a
> > > > > supercell. Was the "size" of rotation indictative of supercell
>status?
> > Was
> > > > > severe weather reported? Yes was the hail > 5cm in diameter. Not
>that
> > we
> > > > > experienced anyway. Was it long lived? It went for more than 20
> > minutes.
> > > > > But who knows. Confidence level based on rotation speed and size of
> > the
> > > > > so-called "mesocyclone" was a little down. The persistence of the
> > rotation
> > > > > from base up including small inflow band was better than what I saw
>on
> > the
> > > > > Darwin and far more organised. Just my thoughts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > >
> > > > > At 08:29 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi Jimmy.
> > > > > >I think your reply is a good one, in the case of the Katamatite
>storm
> > I
> > > >have
> > > > > >been in the process of editing and putting together three separate
> > video
> > > > > >sources taken of the evolution of this interesting storm which
>shows
> > the
> > > > > >splitting process then a gradually evolving Katamatite storm
>complete
> > > >with
> > > > > >time lapse and definite anticyclonic rotation and will forward you
>or
> > > >show
> > > > > >you a copy at some future date........In respect to identifying
> > > >supercells
> > > > > >it is indeed a very fine line and a lot of grey area that storms
> > move
> > > >along
> > > > > >before one can categorise it as a supercell I have seen small and
> > large
> > > > > >supercells and even severe multi cells can take on the appearance
>of
> > > > > >supercell for short periods. Like you I am aware of the parameters
> > and
> > > > > >personally very careful to make an assumption...but that aside here
> > in
> > > >Aus
> > > > > >the Katamatite storm is the third anticyclonic rotating meso system
>I
> > > >have
> > > > > >seen including the amazing Darwin storm in late November 2003 but
>at
> > the
> > > > > >storm scale the coriolis affect is negligible we could go on taking
> > about
> > > > > >this possibly for ages so I look forward to catching up sometime
>and
> > have
> > > >a
> > > > > >good chinwag best regards Clyve Herbert.
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "Jimmy Deguara" <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> > > > > >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 3:06 PM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Yabba North & Katamatite Supercell report
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Jane et al,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess doppler radars are not too dissimilar in range to other
> > radars
> > > > > > > though I am not an expert in this.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On the point David was suggesting in regards to verification of
> > > > > >supercells,
> > > > > > > dopplers are the best in determining this. However, they must be
> > > >turned on
> > > > > > > in doppler wind detection mode rather than hail intensity mode
> > which
> > > >was
> > > > > > > the case with the Camden LP supercell. This storm as most have
> > seen
> > > >many
> > > > > >times:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2003/docs/200302-01.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another point in regards to BoM identification of supercells is
>a
> > > >rating
> > > > > > > system that was in effect at the time the March 9th Supercell
> > > >occurred.
> > > > > >One
> > > > > > > meteorologist who will remain nameless suggested not a supercell
> > and
> > > >then
> > > > > > > another came in - saw my pics noticed a wall cloud and then
> > suggested
> > > >with
> > > > > > > certain confidence level that it was a supercell - based on the
> > > > > >definition.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am referring to this storm:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > http://www.australiasevereweather.com/storm_news/2000/docs/0003-01.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yabba North & Katamatite HP... Anticyclonic rotation and left
> > moving -
> > > >I
> > > > > > > will have to look that one up. And if it was a "split" in the
> > normal
> > > >term
> > > > > > > (left and right mover) even more the confusion though I think
>this
> > > >split
> > > > > > > from a band of storms - perhaps a small squall line. Just from
>the
> > > > > > > orientation and structure it was more consistent with a left
> > moving
> > > >left
> > > > > > > flank structure but not consistent with the anticyclonic style
>of
> > > > > > > structure. Of course this is from the picture itself. What size
> > hail
> > > >was
> > > > > > > reported with the Yabba North & Katamatite storm? I don't recall
> > > >reading
> > > > > > > this in the report - I may have missed it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What we must be careful is making calls in regards to supercells
> > and
> > > > > > > non-supercells too easily. It sometimes is better to suggest
> > > >"possible" or
> > > > > > > "probable" supercell rather than definite supercell. Wall clouds
> > and
> > > > > > > funnels are other features I have observed even recently being
> > > > > >mis-reported
> > > > > > > perhaps not deliberately but this is quite serious. It means
> > others
> > > >are
> > > > > > > comparing their pictures with those that are claimed to be such
> > and
> > > >the
> > > > > > > disease spreads. I think better to check with others for an
> > unbiased
> > > > > > > opinion. It should not be viewed as failure but accurate
> > reporting.
> > > >That
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > what I call healthy science.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jimmy Deguara
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > At 06:01 PM 1/5/04 +1100, you wrote:
> > > > > > > >Hi David and all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >what is the workable range of the Doppler radar? do they
>operate
> > at a
> > > > > > > >similar elevation as the radar that is currently used in
> > Australia?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Cheers,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Jane
> > > > > > > >--------------------------------
> > > > > > > >Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > > > > > > >aussky at iprimus.com.au
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Australian Sky and Weather
> > > > > > > >www.stormchasers.au.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >ASWA - Victoria
> > > > > > > >http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> > > > > > > >
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Hi all,

Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C and
26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.  You
would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from the
west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost nothing
worth mentioning.

However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day, with
this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane western
suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg

But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C, the
first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
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Go the AirCon.

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Hello All,
As some of you have most likely seen on the TV news, the fires in this area
are getting worse.  We have 9 helicopters working at water bombing.  The
fire is now apparantly heading towards Terry Hills.

Peter if you read this, they are ordering crews to patrol the Nursing Home
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Thanks, Judy ... am listening to Warringah firecon now .... 

The visibility on Mona Vale Road was down to about 150 metres
at about 4pm when I came through.

Pete

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Hello All,
As some of you have most likely seen on the TV news, the fires in this area
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Hi John.....Just to set a contrast, here at Woodend central Vic this morning
I recorded a min of +1.3c! and a grass min of -1.1c at 0555hrs, there was a
good frost cover, all gone by 0630, according to local records there has
never been a frost in this district in the first two weeks of January.
(based on 100 year data)regards Clyve H.
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> Hi all,
>
> Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
and
> 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.  You
> would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
the
> west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost nothing
> worth mentioning.
>
> However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day, with
> this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane western
> suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
>
> But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C, the
> first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
> thinking about.
>
> Go the AirCon.
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:44:46 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
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Hi John,

The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the aircon
had a real struggle!

That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best examples
I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset also, which I
guess was a consolation:

http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg

Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as their
maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to have an
average temperature over a week which is 1C off your overall monthly
record is pretty considerable!

AC

John Woodbridge wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C and
> 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.  You
> would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from the
> west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost nothing
> worth mentioning.
> 
> However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day, with
> this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane western
> suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> 
> But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C, the
> first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
> thinking about.
> 
> Go the AirCon.
> 
> John.
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Hi John......Forgot to mention .....the photo is a beauty is it yours?
regards Clyve H.
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> Hi all,
>
> Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
and
> 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.  You
> would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
the
> west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost nothing
> worth mentioning.
>
> However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day, with
> this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane western
> suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
>
> But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C, the
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and on the same night, Christchurch(NZ) recorded a record high minimum
temperature of 24C.   The trough deviding the hot moist air from the cold
gave some big rainfall totals last night to South island west coast.
200-300mm through the ranges with storms.

That photo John is interesting. nice cloud burst.

Cheers

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> Hi John.....Just to set a contrast, here at Woodend central Vic this
morning
> I recorded a min of +1.3c! and a grass min of -1.1c at 0555hrs, there was
a
> good frost cover, all gone by 0630, according to local records there has
> never been a frost in this district in the first two weeks of January.
> (based on 100 year data)regards Clyve H.
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>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
> and
> > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.
You
> > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
> the
> > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost
nothing
> > worth mentioning.
> >
> > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day,
with
> > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane
western
> > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> >
> > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C,
the
> > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
> > thinking about.
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Hi Clyve

I'm curious about the 100 years of data for Woodend. The Bureau has 3
rainfall stations listed for Woodend, only one of which is current, and that
has records back to (I think) 1895. But no climate obs. Is the data you
mention privately held? The reason for my interest is that I have a client
that requires regular data for Woodend, but I have had to provide Ballarat
data as the nearest reliable substitute.

Your regular papers on severe events are a joy to read. Keep up the good
work!

Laurier


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> Hi John.....Just to set a contrast, here at Woodend central Vic
> this morning
> I recorded a min of +1.3c! and a grass min of -1.1c at 0555hrs,
> there was a
> good frost cover, all gone by 0630, according to local records there has
> never been a frost in this district in the first two weeks of January.
> (based on 100 year data)regards Clyve H.
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> >
> > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
> and
> > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very
> unpleasant.  You
> > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
> the
> > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually
> almost nothing
> > worth mentioning.
> >
> > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in
> the day, with
> > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the
> Brisbane western
> > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> >
> > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days
> at 49C, the
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> >
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ


Hi Laurier....Thanks......After the low minimum this morning I checked with
a close friend at Trentham (20 kilometers west 700m) who has spent his whole
life compiling data for the central ranges region of Victoria and he has at
least 100 years of climate obs (40 of his own) and together with official
rainfall records dating back 135 years, I have seen his remarkable met obs
( a whole wall of climate data with hand written notes of each day!!!)
collection based at Trentham and I will be happy to discuss on  a private
email other details........In respect to today's low min we could find no
record of frost (official) in the first two weeks of January, there appears
to have been a light  frost recorded in late January at some locations but
not at Trentham until the first week of February, according to this climate
data this morning appears to have been  the earliest frost in the district.
(Bendigo had 3c)..best regards Clyve Herbert.
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From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ


> Hi Clyve
>
> I'm curious about the 100 years of data for Woodend. The Bureau has 3
> rainfall stations listed for Woodend, only one of which is current, and
that
> has records back to (I think) 1895. But no climate obs. Is the data you
> mention privately held? The reason for my interest is that I have a client
> that requires regular data for Woodend, but I have had to provide Ballarat
> data as the nearest reliable substitute.
>
> Your regular papers on severe events are a joy to read. Keep up the good
> work!
>
> Laurier
>
>
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> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of G8.106
> > Sent: Friday, 09 January, 2004 08:34
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ
> >
> >
> > Hi John.....Just to set a contrast, here at Woodend central Vic
> > this morning
> > I recorded a min of +1.3c! and a grass min of -1.1c at 0555hrs,
> > there was a
> > good frost cover, all gone by 0630, according to local records there has
> > never been a frost in this district in the first two weeks of January.
> > (based on 100 year data)regards Clyve H.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:53 PM
> > Subject: RE: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3
&
> > > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between
22C
> > and
> > > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very
> > unpleasant.  You
> > > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough
from
> > the
> > > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually
> > almost nothing
> > > worth mentioning.
> > >
> > > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in
> > the day, with
> > > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the
> > Brisbane western
> > > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> > >
> > > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days
> > at 49C, the
> > > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not
bear
> > > thinking about.
> > >
> > > Go the AirCon.
> > >
> > > John.
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ


Hi Clyve,

This photo is one of a series showing the microburst travelling down, then
spreading out and dissipating, taken with my Xmas present to myself (lol) a
Pentax Optio 555.  You have inspired me to put the full set up which may now
be found at the link below.  These are reduced to 1/8 of original size for
Internet consumption.  A 1/4 original size of the previously referenced
photo is included also.  Now that I am digitally enabled, I hope to become a
bit more active in the contributions dept!

www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/08Jan04

Regards,
John.

p.s. Nice sunset AC.

>snip

Hi John......Forgot to mention .....the photo is a beauty is it yours?
regards Clyve H.

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ


here are the   weather observation from my station in the western suburbs of
brisbane . on moggill road , in pinjarra hills

headings   date       TA100906  TS100913  BP100089  RG500219  SR200270
AN2A0462  WD200410  HU100388  LS300005  ET000000  SI000000  DP000000
      dd/mm/yy    1     °C  2     °C  3    hPa  4     mm  5   W/m˛  6   km/h
7    deg 8%  9 strike  :  mm/da  ;  stres  =     °C



monday  05-01-2004
      5/01/2004   maximum 31.584 26.304 1011.27 6.5 1357.8 16.42 359.99
95.58 13733 38.33 88.09 30.724
      5/01/2004   minimum 22.652 24.78 1006.78 0 13.9 0 0.06 54.65 360 -0.01
69.03 13.032


tuesday -6-01-2004

      6/01/2004   maximum 36.55 28.312 1008.16 0 1220 15.95 359.92 91 13733
36.3 95.8 34.792
      6/01/2004   minimum 22.346 25.574 1000.88 0 14 0 0.14 41.65 488 -0.01
67.59 8.71

wednesday -7-01-2004
      7/01/2004   maximum 38.414 29.812 1003.01 0 1389.9 28.92 359.99 89.66
13733 42.23 98.66 36.4
      7/01/2004   minimum 23.882 27.344 996.38 0 13.9 0 0.03 36.66
2954 -0.01 68.99 8.192


thursday  08-01-04
      8/01/2004   maximum 39.43 30.608 1004.76 6.5 1490 23.6 359.78 76.55
13733 45.68 97.1 34.502
      8/01/2004   minimum 26.186 28.744 998.03 1.5 13.4 0 0.22 30.25
19767 -0.01 70.92 7.364


storm on thursday -08-01-2004
        date      time    TA100906  TS100913  BP100089  RG500219  SR200270
AN2A0462  WD200410  HU100388  LS300005  ET000000  SI000000  DP000000
      dd/mm/yy  hh:mm:ss  1     °C  2     °C  3    hPa  4     mm  5   W/m˛
6   km/h  7    deg 8%  9 strike  :  mm/da  ;  stres  =     °C

      8/01/2004  12:50:00 36.334 28.904 999.39 0 503.7 9.87 299.11 38.45 14
14.62 83.9 19.92
      8/01/2004  13:00:00 37.112 28.93 999.18 0 664.3 7.89 275.23 38.15 19
19.59 84.75 20.522
      8/01/2004  13:10:00 37.35 28.964 998.9 0 258.3 4.99 299.27 36.94 27
7.28 84.76 20.208
      8/01/2004  13:20:00 38.64 28.998 998.9 0 948.8 9.84 321.66 35.79 42
28.73 85.99 20.806
      8/01/2004  13:30:00 38.188 29.04 998.87 0 856.3 4.8 270.16 33.63 46
25.79 84.95 19.404
      8/01/2004  13:40:00 38.314 29.082 998.87 0 472.9 1.95 238.2 33.43 68
14.05 85.05 19.418
      8/01/2004  13:50:00 38.764 29.124 998.62 0 868.3 10.93 287.92 32.14
116 26.27 85.24 19.166
      8/01/2004  14:00:00 38.084 29.166 998.94 0 550.1 2.8 275.28 31.89 146
16.38 84.42 18.49
      8/01/2004  14:10:00 36.452 29.208 998.69 0 651 1.71 191.38 37.54 159
19.08 83.84 19.644
      8/01/2004  14:20:00 37.174 29.254 998.73 0 303.9 3.54 241.02 35.77 161
8.66 84.28 19.518
      8/01/2004  14:30:00 37.136 29.304 998.69 0 292.4 2.35 217.8 36.34 236
8.31 84.37 19.742
      8/01/2004  14:40:00 37.638 29.354 998.52 0 815.1 1.39 276.45 37.09 255
24.41 85.13 20.528
      8/01/2004  14:50:00 38.296 29.402 998.69 0 267.7 6.37 250.89 35.51 242
7.75 85.52 20.392
      8/01/2004  15:00:00 37.982 29.448 998.59 0 335.8 1.52 277.67 35.65 212
9.8 85.19 20.188
      8/01/2004  15:10:00 39.158 29.498 998.48 0 554 5.09 280.23 33.29 420
16.65 85.97 20.084
      8/01/2004  15:20:00 38.844 29.544 998.34 0 141.9 7.1 285.75 33.01 593
3.9 85.54 19.66
      8/01/2004  15:30:00 38.428 29.59 998.34 0 168.1 3.75 273.16 33.11 613
4.69 85.1 19.354
      8/01/2004  15:40:00 39.168 29.636 998.38 0 272.8 5.16 227.67 31.13 565
7.95 85.45 19.008
      8/01/2004  15:50:00 38.908 29.684 998.41 0 295.5 3.17 269.7 31.09 533
8.64 85.15 18.762
      8/01/2004  16:00:00 38.828 29.73 998.27 0 237.1 3.01 251.42 30.62 505
6.83 84.95 18.452
      8/01/2004  16:10:00 39.138 29.772 998.24 0 201.8 4.06 203.29 30.73 601
5.76 85.31 18.782
      8/01/2004  16:20:00 39.028 29.824 998.24 0 271.1 4.62 243.43 32.45 760
7.89 85.61 19.538
      8/01/2004  16:30:00 38.924 29.87 998.13 0 233.1 3.93 215.12 31.56 777
6.72 85.28 19.008
      8/01/2004  16:40:00 37.638 29.914 998.45 0 188.4 0 83.13 33.44 710
5.28 84.28 18.854
      8/01/2004  16:50:00 33.802 29.96 998.38 0 163.9 10.63 22.57 42.71 641
4.15 81.72 19.354
      8/01/2004  17:00:00 33.232 30 998.45 0 153.6 7.41 340.73 44.67 705
3.81 81.4 19.586
      8/01/2004  17:10:00 31.97 30.042 998.34 0 139.5 3.19 347.09 51.54 713
3.26 81.03 20.768
      8/01/2004  17:20:00 31.408 30.086 998.73 0 65.5 8.2 357.77 56.13 778
1.12 81.07 21.602
      8/01/2004  17:30:00 28.444 30.126 998.69 0.5 90 2.04 7.64 66.19 736
1.66 78.44 21.512
      8/01/2004  17:40:00 31.252 30.164 999.04 0 107.7 19.03 319.53 54.18
619 2.33 80.53 20.876
      8/01/2004  17:50:00 30.02 30.204 999.08 0 54.5 15.66 345.64 58.5 725
0.78 79.55 21.01
      8/01/2004  18:00:00 30.14 30.236 999.57 0 49.6 5.09 337.59 58.93 630
0.64 79.79 21.244
      8/01/2004  18:10:00 30.196 30.276 999.96 0 52.3 7.34 4.1 58.85 912
0.72 79.85 21.268
      8/01/2004  18:20:00 30.52 30.314 1000.03 0 66.3 8.26 337.46 57.86 889
1.12 80.14 21.294
      8/01/2004  18:30:00 27.992 30.346 999.92 1 88.8 3.08 0.28 67.57 644
1.61 77.98 21.442
      8/01/2004  18:40:00 27.68 30.382 1000.28 0 62 3.95 0.64 70.68 603 0.87
77.93 21.898
      8/01/2004  18:50:00 28.22 30.414 1000.21 0 31 1.15 309.22 68.87 323
0.01 78.5 21.976
      8/01/2004  19:00:00 28.012 30.446 1000.35 0 30.4 2.09 276.95 67.22 251
0 77.96 21.372
      8/01/2004  19:10:00 27.89 30.478 1000.66 0 13.9 5.09 318.79 67.26
194 -0.01 77.79 21.274
      8/01/2004  19:20:00 27.338 30.5 1000.84 0 13.4 0 149.44 69.75
136 -0.01 77.29 21.34
      8/01/2004  19:30:00 27.06 30.52 1001.34 0 13.4 0 131.36 70.91
124 -0.01 77.02 21.346
      8/01/2004  19:40:00 27.472 30.54 1001.3 0 13.4 0 113.64 71.45
121 -0.01 77.72 21.88
      8/01/2004  19:50:00 27.45 30.556 1001.44 0 13.4 0 77.17 72.98
103 -0.01 77.89 22.206
      8/01/2004  20:00:00 27.534 30.572 1001.51 0 13.4 0 190.98 69.92
109 -0.01 77.61 21.57
      8/01/2004  20:10:00 27.582 30.58 1001.59 0 13.4 0 55.1 71.85 105 -0.01
77.94 22.076
      8/01/2004  20:20:00 27.398 30.588 1001.73 0 13.4 0 20.09 72.77
119 -0.01 77.77 22.12
      8/01/2004  20:30:00 27.38 30.596 1001.94 0 13.4 0.95 352.84 72.08
81 -0.01 77.66 21.938
      8/01/2004  20:40:00 27.658 30.6 1002.08 0 13.4 2.49 348.22 69.84
72 -0.01 77.79 21.67
      8/01/2004  20:50:00 27.428 30.604 1002.23 0 13.4 1.51 318.08 71.84
86 -0.01 77.7 21.92
      8/01/2004  21:00:00 26.83 30.604 1002.37 0 13.4 1.25 296.12 74.01
75 -0.01 77.07 21.828
      8/01/2004  21:10:00 27.2 30.604 1002.51 0 13.4 0 303.02 71.98 67 -0.01
77.38 21.74
      8/01/2004  21:20:00 26.712 30.6 1002.58 0 13.4 0 159.93 74.09
103 -0.01 76.9 21.728
      8/01/2004  21:30:00 26.962 30.592 1002.58 0 13.4 0 223.12 73.5
102 -0.01 77.2 21.85
      8/01/2004  21:40:00 26.544 30.584 1002.65 0 13.4 1.51 298.14 76.24
107 -0.01 76.9 22.034
      8/01/2004  21:50:00 26.598 30.576 1002.87 0 13.4 0 304.57 75.08
110 -0.01 76.83 21.828
      8/01/2004  22:00:00 26.422 30.568 1002.94 0 13.4 0 123.26 76.43
86 -0.01 76.73 21.95
      8/01/2004  22:10:00 26.358 30.556 1003.26 0 13.4 1.38 136.92 75.46
67 -0.01 76.51 21.66
      8/01/2004  22:20:00 26.734 30.548 1003.47 0 13.4 0 174.08 74.49
71 -0.01 76.98 21.844
      8/01/2004  22:30:00 27.25 30.532 1003.4 0 13.4 0 150.32 72.68 77 -0.01
77.54 21.944
      8/01/2004  22:40:00 27.552 30.52 1003.58 0 13.4 0 173.74 70.47
83 -0.01 77.71 21.728
      8/01/2004  22:50:00 28.208 30.504 1003.58 0 13.5 0 201.63 67.92
97 -0.01 78.34 21.728
      8/01/2004  23:00:00 28.544 30.486 1003.62 0 13.5 1.05 216.44 66.47
56 -0.01 78.64 21.676
      8/01/2004  23:10:00 28.03 30.47 1003.94 0 13.5 0 213.48 65.83 96 -0.01
77.8 21.05
      8/01/2004  23:20:00 28.692 30.45 1003.9 0 13.5 0 227.38 64.3 52 -0.01
78.54 21.268
      8/01/2004  23:30:00 28.702 30.434 1004.01 0 13.5 0 180.44 63.59
58 -0.01 78.46 21.094
      8/01/2004  23:40:00 28.564 30.418 1004.33 0 13.5 1.9 141.35 64.04
74 -0.01 78.32 21.082
      8/01/2004  23:50:00 28.9 30.398 1004.69 0 13.5 2.05 139.4 64.57
52 -0.01 78.89 21.552

            9/01/2004  00:00:00 28.436 30.374 1004.73 0 13.5 3.05 129.39
62.67 86 -0.01 77.95 20.62
            9/01/2004  00:10:00 27.986 30.354 1004.8 0 13.5 5.89 109.74
61.51 78 -0.01 77.15 19.906
            9/01/2004  00:20:00 27.548 30.33 1004.94 0 13.5 3.77 150.74
61.43 94 -0.01 76.52 19.474
            9/01/2004  00:30:00 27.224 30.31 1005.02 0 13.5 3.75 145.72
62.39 128 -0.01 76.18 19.424
            9/01/2004  00:40:00 27.012 30.282 1005.05 0 13.5 1.92 135.63
62.92 150 -0.01 75.94 19.362
            9/01/2004  00:50:00 26.802 30.268 1005.2 0 13.5 3.55 139.36
63.26 154 -0.01 75.69 19.24
            9/01/2004  01:00:00 26.594 30.24 1005.34 0 13.5 3.05 128.18
63.57 210 -0.01 75.43 19.12
            9/01/2004  01:10:00 26.364 30.22 1005.38 0 13.5 2.44 151.23
64.13 174 -0.01 75.16 19.036
            9/01/2004  01:20:00 26.276 30.196 1005.27 0 13.5 1.78 144.55
63.68 144 -0.01 74.98 18.84
            9/01/2004  01:30:00 26.01 30.172 1005.45 0 13.5 1.15 128.17
63.84 139 -0.01 74.62 18.634
            9/01/2004  01:40:00 25.952 30.148 1005.41 0 13.5 3.14 155.59
63.38 174 -0.01 74.49 18.46
            9/01/2004  01:50:00 25.806 30.126 1005.41 0 13.5 4.35 146 63.32
175 -0.01 74.27 18.31
            9/01/2004  02:00:00 25.782 30.098 1005.41 0 13.5 1.03 149.37
63.11 176 -0.01 74.21 18.23
            9/01/2004  02:10:00 25.646 30.07 1005.66 0 13.5 5.56 164.02 63.1
182 -0.01 74.02 18.096
            9/01/2004  02:20:00 25.546 30.05 1005.52 0 13.4 5.97 157.27
62.97 164 -0.01 73.86 17.972
            9/01/2004  02:30:00 25.56 30.028 1005.56 0 13.4 2.36 146.24 62.7
195 -0.01 73.85 17.924
            9/01/2004  02:40:00 25.338 30 1005.74 0 13.4 0.65 152.91 63.12
214 -0.01 73.57 17.814
            9/01/2004  02:50:00 25.356 29.976 1005.88 0 13.4 1.57 146.72
63.2 209 -0.01 73.6 17.854
            9/01/2004  03:00:00 25.226 29.944 1005.95 0 13.4 0.35 134.98
63.67 206 -0.01 73.48 17.854
            9/01/2004  03:10:00 25.226 29.922 1006.28 0 13.5 2.65 149.73
63.65 318 -0.01 73.47 17.846
            9/01/2004  03:20:00 25.172 29.898 1006.35 0 13.4 1.94 134.59
63.42 405 -0.01 73.37 17.744
            9/01/2004  03:30:00 24.954 29.866 1006.49 0 13.4 0.3 139.33
64.13 321 -0.01 73.13 17.712
            9/01/2004  03:40:00 24.83 29.84 1006.75 0 13.4 1.96 147.51 64.16
276 -0.01 72.96 17.61
            9/01/2004  03:50:00 24.762 29.816 1006.89 0 13.5 0 144.57 64.18
237 -0.01 72.86 17.548
            9/01/2004  04:00:00 24.706 29.788 1007.25 0 13.5 2.22 131.8
64.32 286 -0.01 72.79 17.524
            9/01/2004  04:10:00 24.578 29.762 1007.36 0 13.5 0 136.83 64.51
238 -0.01 72.63 17.446
            9/01/2004  04:20:00 24.456 29.73 1007.51 0 13.5 0 138.97 65.15
226 -0.01 72.51 17.486
            9/01/2004  04:30:00 24.266 29.706 1007.62 0 13.5 0 124.47 65.64
221 -0.01 72.29 17.422
            9/01/2004  04:40:00 24.35 29.676 1007.87 0 13.5 0 139.67 65.71
267 -0.01 72.42 17.524
            9/01/2004  04:50:00 24.128 29.648 1007.98 0 13.6 0 139.2 65.79
251 -0.01 72.1 17.32
            9/01/2004  05:00:00 23.99 29.622 1008.09 0 14.1 0 164.4 66.4
233 -0.01 71.96 17.344
            9/01/2004  05:10:00 23.764 29.59 1008.13 0 15.5 0 150.58 67.22
219 -0.01 71.7 17.304
            9/01/2004  05:20:00 23.746 29.56 1008.45 0 22.8 0 211.48 67.31
246 -0.01 71.69 17.304
            9/01/2004  05:30:00 23.846 29.536 1008.64 0 32 0 137.25 67.59
203 -0.01 71.86 17.478
            9/01/2004  05:40:00 23.762 29.502 1008.75 0 41.4 0 137.3 67.64
229 0.17 71.74 17.406
            9/01/2004  05:50:00 23.932 29.47 1008.96 0 52.2 0 121.57 67.81
215 0.45 72.01 17.618
            9/01/2004  06:00:00 23.922 29.444 1009.18 0 66.3 0 145.96 67.52
180 0.81 71.97 17.54
            9/01/2004  06:10:00 24.026 29.412 1009.33 0 73.4 0 165.12 67.13
176 1.01 72.09 17.54
            9/01/2004  06:20:00 24.246 29.386 1009.33 0 89.6 0 145.25 67.12
160 1.43 72.41 17.76
            9/01/2004  06:30:00 24.322 29.35 1009.48 0 109.3 0 141.47 68.01
210 1.94 72.6 18.05
            9/01/2004  06:40:00 24.368 29.324 1009.62 0 120.7 1.1 133.21
66.76 133 2.24 72.55 17.798
            9/01/2004  06:50:00 24.592 29.294 1009.59 0 141.2 0 126.65 66.25
132 2.81 72.82 17.894
            9/01/2004  07:00:00 24.672 29.262 1009.59 0 151 1.49 119.64
65.15 141 3.06 72.83 17.696
            9/01/2004  07:10:00 24.92 29.232 1009.73 0 173 2.05 143.65 64.47
111 3.66 73.12 17.776



friday -09-01-2004


      9/01/2004   maximum 31.846 30.374 1011.97 0 1521.7 13.95 359.53 74.91
13733 43.18 84.95 26.852
      9/01/2004   minimum 23.548 28.642 1004.73 0 13.4 0 0.76 36.89
1439 -0.01 68.61 7.964


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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> Hi all,
>
> Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
and
> 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.  You
> would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
the
> west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost nothing
> worth mentioning.
>
> However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day, with
> this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane western
> suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
>
> But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C, the
> first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
> thinking about.
>
> Go the AirCon.
>
> John.
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Hi all- I do still have a look here occasionally :)

Great shot John! I have linked all those pics up into an animation which
shows the movement of the storm quite nicely.

http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/weather/JohnWoodbridge

Cheers

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Hi Clyve,

This photo is one of a series showing the microburst travelling down, then
spreading out and dissipating, taken with my Xmas present to myself (lol) a
Pentax Optio 555.  You have inspired me to put the full set up which may now
be found at the link below.  These are reduced to 1/8 of original size for
Internet consumption.  A 1/4 original size of the previously referenced
photo is included also.  Now that I am digitally enabled, I hope to become a
bit more active in the contributions dept!

www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/08Jan04

Regards,
John.

p.s. Nice sunset AC.

>snip

Hi John......Forgot to mention .....the photo is a beauty is it yours?
regards Clyve H.

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here are some storm pictures from my location in pinjarra hills
on moggil road , looking towards mt cosby , and towards mt cootha , and
brookfield area

http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics

I am still up loading some pics


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Good on you Stephen, nice images, thanks for letting me see them!

Cheers

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here are some storm pictures from my location in pinjarra hills
on moggil road , looking towards mt cosby , and towards mt cootha , and
brookfield area

http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics

I am still up loading some pics


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Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:45:45 +0800
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I agree with David, Stephen, these are a great set of pictures ... you 
can just about hear the distant thunder rolling in as you look at those 
magnificent clouds.
I still have two to look at later as the site "Has exceeded its 
allocated data transfer." (A common problem with Geocities).  You might 
have to trim the photos in size before uploading your future sets to 
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> Good on you Stephen, nice images, thanks for letting me see them!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> David Simpson
> www.stormplanet.com
> 
> 
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> Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2004 12:26 PM
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> Subject: aus-wx: storm picture from my location 
> 
> here are some storm pictures from my location in pinjarra hills
> on moggil road , looking towards mt cosby , and towards mt cootha , and
> brookfield area
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics
> 
> I am still up loading some pics
> 
> 
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Nice one James!

The 6 photo's span a timeframe of 4 and 1/2 minutes.  I'm wishing now that I
had clicked away a bit more rapidly!

John.

>snip
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Hi all- I do still have a look here occasionally :)

Great shot John! I have linked all those pics up into an animation which
shows the movement of the storm quite nicely.

http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/weather/JohnWoodbridge

Cheers

James

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From: "Duncan & Mandy" <duncman at octa4.net.au>
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Hi,
last week Alice Springs 4 days in a row of temps of 45C, or around that
mark, depending on your location. According to the local paper, it's the
hottest start to a new year for thirty years. Not quite sure how that's
measured.
The heat was very dry, with humidity levels around 11%, so although it feels
like an oven, it's pretty bearable, and one can perform everyday tasks. Much
better than Marble Bar at this time of the year. I've heard that the one
local pub there has lost it's only licensee, so therefore no beer can be
served. A few disgruntled locals there at the moment one would think!

A query. Does anyone know how to recalibrate a barometre? I recently bought
my barometre up from my parents house in Adelaide, where it had been working
prefectly well for the last 20 years. It now gives pressure as hovering
between 970 and 980. Maybe in the middle of a cyclone this may be normal,
but definitely not around here!

Cheers,
Duncan Treloar
Alice Springs, N.T.

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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:14 PM
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> Hi John,
>
> The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
> temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the aircon
> had a real struggle!
>
> That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best examples
> I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset also, which I
> guess was a consolation:
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg
>
> Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as their
> maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to have an
> average temperature over a week which is 1C off your overall monthly
> record is pretty considerable!
>
> AC
>
> John Woodbridge wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3 &
> > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between 22C
and
> > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.
You
> > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough from
the
> > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost
nothing
> > worth mentioning.
> >
> > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day,
with
> > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane
western
> > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> >
> > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C,
the
> > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not bear
> > thinking about.
> >
> > Go the AirCon.
> >
> > John.
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Defanetly reduce the photo size.  I think 20cmx20cm is the perfect size.The
picture needs to be viewed easily on the monitor. Cheers.
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> I agree with David, Stephen, these are a great set of pictures ... you
> can just about hear the distant thunder rolling in as you look at those
> magnificent clouds.
> I still have two to look at later as the site "Has exceeded its
> allocated data transfer." (A common problem with Geocities).  You might
> have to trim the photos in size before uploading your future sets to
> overcome this difficulty.
>
> Phil
> <><
>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:11:52 +1100
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>
> > Good on you Stephen, nice images, thanks for letting me see them!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > David Simpson
> > www.stormplanet.com
> >
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> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: storm picture from my location
> >
> > here are some storm pictures from my location in pinjarra hills
> > on moggil road , looking towards mt cosby , and towards mt cootha , and
> > brookfield area
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics
> >
> > I am still up loading some pics
> >
> >
> > pictures are in various sizes
> > but the resolution = 2048 x 1536
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> >
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Hi Duncan/Mandy.
Your barometer is working very well....(they use a special type of barometer
for measuring altitude, they are very accurate), however, when your
barometer was on the wall in Adelaide it was happily measuring air pressure
at near sea level, your trip to Alice Springs took you and your barometer to
an altitude of about 547 meters so with the reduction of air pressure at
different heights your barometer at present thinks its in the middle of
cyclone which for weather people would be very interesting.....On the back
of your barometer there should be at least one hole in the mounting plate
have a look inside there you will see a screw embedded usually inside the
body sometimes on the outside...ring up or look for current barometric
pressure for Alice Springs (adjusted for sea level) then insert a small
screw driver and turn to the right then watch the indicator needle turn in a
clockwise direction until the desired pressure is indicated should be around
1005hpa today....you have now fixed your very reliable barometer.....regards
Clyve H.
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> Hi,
> last week Alice Springs 4 days in a row of temps of 45C, or around that
> mark, depending on your location. According to the local paper, it's the
> hottest start to a new year for thirty years. Not quite sure how that's
> measured.
> The heat was very dry, with humidity levels around 11%, so although it
feels
> like an oven, it's pretty bearable, and one can perform everyday tasks.
Much
> better than Marble Bar at this time of the year. I've heard that the one
> local pub there has lost it's only licensee, so therefore no beer can be
> served. A few disgruntled locals there at the moment one would think!
>
> A query. Does anyone know how to recalibrate a barometre? I recently
bought
> my barometre up from my parents house in Adelaide, where it had been
working
> prefectly well for the last 20 years. It now gives pressure as hovering
> between 970 and 980. Maybe in the middle of a cyclone this may be normal,
> but definitely not around here!
>
> Cheers,
> Duncan Treloar
> Alice Springs, N.T.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ
>
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
> > temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the aircon
> > had a real struggle!
> >
> > That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best examples
> > I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset also, which I
> > guess was a consolation:
> >
> > http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg
> >
> > Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as their
> > maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to have an
> > average temperature over a week which is 1C off your overall monthly
> > record is pretty considerable!
> >
> > AC
> >
> > John Woodbridge wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C, 40.3
&
> > > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between
22C
> and
> > > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.
> You
> > > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough
from
> the
> > > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost
> nothing
> > > worth mentioning.
> > >
> > > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day,
> with
> > > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane
> western
> > > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> > >
> > > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C,
> the
> > > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not
bear
> > > thinking about.
> > >
> > > Go the AirCon.
> > >
> > > John.
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Anthony!  What an incredible sunset!  Thanks for sharing it with us.

Phil
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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:44:46 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ

> Hi John,
> 
> The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
> temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the aircon
> had a real struggle!
> 
> That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best examples
> I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset also, which I
> guess was a consolation:
> 
> http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg
> 
> Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as their
> maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to have an
> average temperature over a week which is 1C off your overall monthly
> record is pretty considerable!
> 
> AC
> 
> John Woodbridge wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C,
> 40.3 &
> > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between
> 22C and
> > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very unpleasant.
>  You
> > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough
> from the
> > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost
> nothing
> > worth mentioning.
> > 
> > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the day,
> with
> > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane
> western
> > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> > 
> > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at 49C,
> the
> > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not
> bear
> > thinking about.
> > 
> > Go the AirCon.
> > 
> > John.
> > 
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Internet resolution is 72dpi(standard).

The goal of posting pics is to make it as easy as possible for the end user
to view the photo at a glance.

Cheers
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 12:02 PM
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> This is all dependant on your resoution - not on the size sent - what is
> ideal for you is not, necessarily, ideal for others.
>
> The sizes posted were a good compromise between screen size and physical
size.
>
> You can (and probably the best way) afjust your browser to automatically
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> you view - they all 'appear' to fit your screen).
>
> At 11/01/2004 03:26 11/01/2004, you wrote:
> >Defanetly reduce the photo size.  I think 20cmx20cm is the perfect
size.The
> >picture needs to be viewed easily on the monitor. Cheers.
>
> RaceTime / RaceNews
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the edited pictures are no on the site
http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics
these picture I do not think are of the same storm , John is talking about
however , while editing the pictures I find that i have photographed , 2 or
more win shear  or down draughts .

the pics are still in the range between mt crosby , ipswich area , to kilcoy
and brisbane , and mt cootha area


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> I agree with David, Stephen, these are a great set of pictures ... you
> can just about hear the distant thunder rolling in as you look at those
> magnificent clouds.
> I still have two to look at later as the site "Has exceeded its
> allocated data transfer." (A common problem with Geocities).  You might
> have to trim the photos in size before uploading your future sets to
> overcome this difficulty.
>
> Phil
> <><
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "David Simpson" <david at stormplanet.com>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:11:52 +1100
> Subject: RE: aus-wx: storm picture  from my location
>
> > Good on you Stephen, nice images, thanks for letting me see them!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > David Simpson
> > www.stormplanet.com
> >
> >
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> > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of sgalow
> > Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2004 12:26 PM
> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: aus-wx: storm picture from my location
> >
> > here are some storm pictures from my location in pinjarra hills
> > on moggil road , looking towards mt cosby , and towards mt cootha , and
> > brookfield area
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics
> >
> > I am still up loading some pics
> >
> >
> > pictures are in various sizes
> > but the resolution = 2048 x 1536
> > with up to 3.0 mb  max per picture
> >
> > Stephen
> >
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Subject: aus-wx: Oct/Nov Photos and Gallery Update


With a bit of free time over the weekend I have scanned some of my SLR
photos into the November 30 chase report and the October 15-16 chase report.
These an be found as follows

http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2003/TDU-1.htm - Nov 30, 2003

http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2003/October15-16.htm - Oct 15 & 16, 2003

As well as those two reports I have also added a number of photos to the
Gallery including this shot taken in SW QLD. It isn't a violent storm photo
but captures the feeling of sitting out in the middle of nowhere watching
nature at its best.
http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/pictures/James/2003/10-16-03-09.JPG

The rest of the photos can be found here
http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/gallery/James/index2.htm

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Hi Stephen,

Your shots directed toward Mt. Cootha capture the same downdraft that I did,
but from a rather different direction (looking East instead of North).  This
photo:
http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics/PIC_0031_edited.JPG
Shows the precip region with remnant lowered updraft to the left.  My first
pic would have been taken shortly after this, when the updraft had decayed
yet further.

Always interesting to get a different angle!

Regards,
John.
>snip
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the edited pictures are no on the site
http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/storm_pics
these picture I do not think are of the same storm , John is talking about
however , while editing the pictures I find that i have photographed , 2 or
more win shear  or down draughts .

the pics are still in the range between mt crosby , ipswich area , to kilcoy
and brisbane , and mt cootha area


Stephen galowski
Stephen Galowski Enterprise

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icq = 22346713
yahoo  = sgfiles2000
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From: "ASWA Victoria" <aswa_victoria at iprimus.com.au>
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<DIV>Spend the afternoon in glorious weather talk, barbequed sausages and 
football......at the next Victorian ASWA meeting with a barbeque to be held 
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look for the red cross on the map south of the freeway near the river)<BR><BR>** 
Time: Saturday&nbsp;7th February&nbsp;starting at 12pm with cricket / frisbee / 
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chefs'&nbsp; </DIV>
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doubt lots of reminiscing about 2003!!<BR><BR>** Please note - there may not be 
formal presentations at this meeting, but if we can find a powerpoint on a 
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Hey all

I came across this article from ABC news:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1021984.htm

I don't recall anything posted on the list here about this....were there
tornadoes, straight-line winds, etc????

BTW - not trying to raise the issue of incorrect terminology used by the
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Hi Rob

It appears the hardest hit areas were in the Hunter along a line
Muswellbrook to Port Stephens

Max
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> Hey all
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> I came across this article from ABC news:
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> http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1021984.htm
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> 
> Hi Laurier....Thanks......After the low minimum this morning I checked with
> a close friend at Trentham (20 kilometers west 700m) who has spent his whole
> life compiling data for the central ranges region of Victoria and he has at
> least 100 years of climate obs (40 of his own) and together with official
> rainfall records dating back 135 years, I have seen his remarkable met obs
> ( a whole wall of climate data with hand written notes of each day!!!)
> collection based at Trentham and I will be happy to discuss on  a private
> email other details........In respect to today's low min we could find no
> record of frost (official) in the first two weeks of January, there appears
> to have been a light  frost recorded in late January at some locations but
> not at Trentham until the first week of February, according to this climate
> data this morning appears to have been  the earliest frost in the district.
> (Bendigo had 3c)..best regards Clyve Herbert.

Just interested - do you know what minimum was reported that day
at Trentham? As you would know, minimum temperatures can be very
sensitive to local topography and a minimum of 1.1 at Woodend 
wouldn't necessarily be comparable with records of frost at Trentham. 

(The absence of any official Bureau stations in the area is a source
of frustration for me, and I suspect many others; a lot of the money
in Victoria for 'new' AWSs (as opposed to replacements for existing
manual sites) comes from aviation and fire interests, so the AWSs 
tend to go in at hilltop sites, like Kilmore Gap and Lookout Hill,
which are good for monitoring winds and free-atmosphere conditions
but distinctly unfavourable for monitoring frosts). 

Incidentally, I'm a little surprised that Trentham had never 
recorded frost in January, given that the now-closed Macedon site
, which is lower than Trentham, went below 2 four times between 
1975 and 1987, including 0.0 on 12 January 1983. This suggests to
me that the Trentham site may not be especially favourable for low
minima. 

Blair
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Hi Blair.
The lowest Min recorded at Trentham in the last I think 30 years is +0.8c I
think the 19th Jan 1987 but will check the exact date. As I have said the
occurrence of a frost at Woodend (ground frost) at such an early date
appears to be a loner. however you are right about locality the central
ranges do have some pretty good frost hollows ,including one at Trentham
where on occasions I have seen frost persist on the ground for up to three
days, indeed remarkable. At my location in Woodend I also have a local frost
hollow adjacent to the cricket ground near to the 7 mile creek which is
almost 10 meters lower than the post office and very flat. I have recorded a
grass min here of -8.8 last winter and frost will remain in the shades until
after noon. Incidentally talking of cold air there are some locals who still
remember snow in the central ranges during Christmas (26th December) I think
1924?. Some of the old timers still talk about a remarkable cold day I
believe Melbourne got a max of 11c on the same day.....regards Clyve H.
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> >
> > Hi Laurier....Thanks......After the low minimum this morning I checked
with
> > a close friend at Trentham (20 kilometers west 700m) who has spent his
whole
> > life compiling data for the central ranges region of Victoria and he has
at
> > least 100 years of climate obs (40 of his own) and together with
official
> > rainfall records dating back 135 years, I have seen his remarkable met
obs
> > ( a whole wall of climate data with hand written notes of each day!!!)
> > collection based at Trentham and I will be happy to discuss on  a
private
> > email other details........In respect to today's low min we could find
no
> > record of frost (official) in the first two weeks of January, there
appears
> > to have been a light  frost recorded in late January at some locations
but
> > not at Trentham until the first week of February, according to this
climate
> > data this morning appears to have been  the earliest frost in the
district.
> > (Bendigo had 3c)..best regards Clyve Herbert.
>
> Just interested - do you know what minimum was reported that day
> at Trentham? As you would know, minimum temperatures can be very
> sensitive to local topography and a minimum of 1.1 at Woodend
> wouldn't necessarily be comparable with records of frost at Trentham.
>
> (The absence of any official Bureau stations in the area is a source
> of frustration for me, and I suspect many others; a lot of the money
> in Victoria for 'new' AWSs (as opposed to replacements for existing
> manual sites) comes from aviation and fire interests, so the AWSs
> tend to go in at hilltop sites, like Kilmore Gap and Lookout Hill,
> which are good for monitoring winds and free-atmosphere conditions
> but distinctly unfavourable for monitoring frosts).
>
> Incidentally, I'm a little surprised that Trentham had never
> recorded frost in January, given that the now-closed Macedon site
> , which is lower than Trentham, went below 2 four times between
> 1975 and 1987, including 0.0 on 12 January 1983. This suggests to
> me that the Trentham site may not be especially favourable for low
> minima.
>
> Blair
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Thanks for your reply on this Clyve. I've found the adjusting screww and
it's done the job. 20 Years ago when i first bought the barometre I vaguely
remember doing something like this - obviously it's worked well since as I'd
completely forgotton the screw existed! And I enjoy reading your weather
observations and forecasts - hopefully there'll be another Tornado in the
Geelong area for your viewing pleasure soon!

As I don't post too often here, I thought I'd may as well make the most of
this one. No rain in sight here in Alice Springs. I've just done my totals
for 2003. We had 296mm, with a highest reading of 72.75mm in December. Of
note was a 71.5mm downpour in 2 hours on February 22nd. I live in the
Larapinta area, about 7kms from the CBD of Alice Springs. The CBD recorded
about 5mm on the same day! Amazing how localized microclimates affect the
weather patterns. Over the 6 years I've lived in Alice, my Larapinta rain
gauge has always had a higher yearly total than both the CBD and the
official BOM site at the airport. The BOM site is actually about 20km south
of the town and in completely different terrain to the metropolitan area.
For interests sake, I have the last 4 years of rainfall in the Larapinta
area: 2000 - 715.5mm; 2001 - 691mm; 2002 - 270.25mm; 2003 - 296mm. So far
we're on 7.75mm for 2004.
Hopefully we're on an upward trend again, and this year'll be a wet one. The
surrounding country has received good rains, but many of the storms seem to
bypass Alice - seems that they follow certain funnels or something.
Hopefully the forecast will change soon. The storms here are very
spectacular and violent when they do arrive. Great contrast to the
surrounding desert colours. One day I'll get organised enough to set up a
web page and put up some digital images.
Cheers,
Duncan
Alice Springs, N.T.

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From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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> Hi Duncan/Mandy.
> Your barometer is working very well....(they use a special type of
barometer
> for measuring altitude, they are very accurate), however, when your
> barometer was on the wall in Adelaide it was happily measuring air
pressure
> at near sea level, your trip to Alice Springs took you and your barometer
to
> an altitude of about 547 meters so with the reduction of air pressure at
> different heights your barometer at present thinks its in the middle of
> cyclone which for weather people would be very interesting.....On the back
> of your barometer there should be at least one hole in the mounting plate
> have a look inside there you will see a screw embedded usually inside the
> body sometimes on the outside...ring up or look for current barometric
> pressure for Alice Springs (adjusted for sea level) then insert a small
> screw driver and turn to the right then watch the indicator needle turn in
a
> clockwise direction until the desired pressure is indicated should be
around
> 1005hpa today....you have now fixed your very reliable
barometer.....regards
> Clyve H.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duncan & Mandy" <duncman at octa4.net.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:43 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat and barometres
>
>
> > Hi,
> > last week Alice Springs 4 days in a row of temps of 45C, or around that
> > mark, depending on your location. According to the local paper, it's the
> > hottest start to a new year for thirty years. Not quite sure how that's
> > measured.
> > The heat was very dry, with humidity levels around 11%, so although it
> feels
> > like an oven, it's pretty bearable, and one can perform everyday tasks.
> Much
> > better than Marble Bar at this time of the year. I've heard that the one
> > local pub there has lost it's only licensee, so therefore no beer can be
> > served. A few disgruntled locals there at the moment one would think!
> >
> > A query. Does anyone know how to recalibrate a barometre? I recently
> bought
> > my barometre up from my parents house in Adelaide, where it had been
> working
> > prefectly well for the last 20 years. It now gives pressure as hovering
> > between 970 and 980. Maybe in the middle of a cyclone this may be
normal,
> > but definitely not around here!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Duncan Treloar
> > Alice Springs, N.T.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ
> >
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
> > > temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the aircon
> > > had a real struggle!
> > >
> > > That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best examples
> > > I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset also, which I
> > > guess was a consolation:
> > >
> > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg
> > >
> > > Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as their
> > > maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to have an
> > > average temperature over a week which is 1C off your overall monthly
> > > record is pretty considerable!
> > >
> > > AC
> > >
> > > John Woodbridge wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of 38.3C,
40.3
> &
> > > > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied between
> 22C
> > and
> > > > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very
unpleasant.
> > You
> > > > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep trough
> from
> > the
> > > > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually almost
> > nothing
> > > > worth mentioning.
> > > >
> > > > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the
day,
> > with
> > > > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the Brisbane
> > western
> > > > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
> > > >
> > > > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after 3
> > > > consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days at
49C,
> > the
> > > > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do not
> bear
> > > > thinking about.
> > > >
> > > > Go the AirCon.
> > > >
> > > > John.
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Hi Duncan

That's an amazing contrast in annual totals for Larapinta, comparing 2000
& 2001 to 2002/2! I'm sure many people would agree with me when I urge you
to get that web site going asap, I'm sure the images would be stunning!!

Cheers
David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com



Duncan & Mandy said:
> Thanks for your reply on this Clyve. I've found the adjusting screww and
> it's done the job. 20 Years ago when i first bought the barometre I
> vaguely remember doing something like this - obviously it's worked well
> since as I'd completely forgotton the screw existed! And I enjoy reading
> your weather observations and forecasts - hopefully there'll be another
> Tornado in the Geelong area for your viewing pleasure soon!
>
> As I don't post too often here, I thought I'd may as well make the most
> of this one. No rain in sight here in Alice Springs. I've just done my
> totals for 2003. We had 296mm, with a highest reading of 72.75mm in
> December. Of note was a 71.5mm downpour in 2 hours on February 22nd. I
> live in the Larapinta area, about 7kms from the CBD of Alice Springs.
> The CBD recorded about 5mm on the same day! Amazing how localized
> microclimates affect the weather patterns. Over the 6 years I've lived
> in Alice, my Larapinta rain gauge has always had a higher yearly total
> than both the CBD and the official BOM site at the airport. The BOM site
> is actually about 20km south of the town and in completely different
> terrain to the metropolitan area. For interests sake, I have the last 4
> years of rainfall in the Larapinta area: 2000 - 715.5mm; 2001 - 691mm;
> 2002 - 270.25mm; 2003 - 296mm. So far we're on 7.75mm for 2004.
> Hopefully we're on an upward trend again, and this year'll be a wet one.
> The surrounding country has received good rains, but many of the storms
> seem to bypass Alice - seems that they follow certain funnels or
> something. Hopefully the forecast will change soon. The storms here are
> very
> spectacular and violent when they do arrive. Great contrast to the
> surrounding desert colours. One day I'll get organised enough to set up
> a web page and put up some digital images.
> Cheers,
> Duncan
> Alice Springs, N.T.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "G8.106" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:13 AM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat and barometres
>
>
>> Hi Duncan/Mandy.
>> Your barometer is working very well....(they use a special type of
> barometer
>> for measuring altitude, they are very accurate), however, when your
>> barometer was on the wall in Adelaide it was happily measuring air
> pressure
>> at near sea level, your trip to Alice Springs took you and your
>> barometer
> to
>> an altitude of about 547 meters so with the reduction of air pressure
>> at different heights your barometer at present thinks its in the
>> middle of cyclone which for weather people would be very
>> interesting.....On the back of your barometer there should be at least
>> one hole in the mounting plate have a look inside there you will see a
>> screw embedded usually inside the body sometimes on the outside...ring
>> up or look for current barometric pressure for Alice Springs (adjusted
>> for sea level) then insert a small screw driver and turn to the right
>> then watch the indicator needle turn in
> a
>> clockwise direction until the desired pressure is indicated should be
> around
>> 1005hpa today....you have now fixed your very reliable
> barometer.....regards
>> Clyve H.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Duncan & Mandy" <duncman at octa4.net.au>
>> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:43 AM
>> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat and barometres
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > last week Alice Springs 4 days in a row of temps of 45C, or around
>> that mark, depending on your location. According to the local paper,
>> it's the hottest start to a new year for thirty years. Not quite
>> sure how that's measured.
>> > The heat was very dry, with humidity levels around 11%, so although
>> it
>> feels
>> > like an oven, it's pretty bearable, and one can perform everyday
>> tasks.
>> Much
>> > better than Marble Bar at this time of the year. I've heard that the
>> one local pub there has lost it's only licensee, so therefore no
>> beer can be served. A few disgruntled locals there at the moment one
>> would think!
>> >
>> > A query. Does anyone know how to recalibrate a barometre? I recently
>> bought
>> > my barometre up from my parents house in Adelaide, where it had been
>> working
>> > prefectly well for the last 20 years. It now gives pressure as
>> hovering between 970 and 980. Maybe in the middle of a cyclone this
>> may be
> normal,
>> > but definitely not around here!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Duncan Treloar
>> > Alice Springs, N.T.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
>> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Heat, thunder and nice little downburst in SEQ
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi John,
>> > >
>> > > The heat was certainly unbearable with such high DPs and the high
>> temperatures...we hit 41C on both days (40.8C and 41.4C)...the
>> aircon had a real struggle!
>> > >
>> > > That's a great shot of a microburst there!  One of the best
>> examples I've seen actually with the curl.  We had a nice sunset
>> also, which I guess was a consolation:
>> > >
>> > > http://www.downunderchase.com/photos/08-01-04-04.jpg
>> > >
>> > > Birdsville averaged 47C between the 1st and the 7th of Jan as
>> their maximum temperature!  Their record Jan max was 48C, so to
>> have an average temperature over a week which is 1C off your
>> overall monthly record is pretty considerable!
>> > >
>> > > AC
>> > >
>> > > John Woodbridge wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hi all,
>> > > >
>> > > > Has been a tad warm at Mt. Crosby this week with 3 days of
>> 38.3C,
> 40.3
>> &
>> > > > 40.3 respectively.  Rather more impressively the DP's varied
>> between
>> 22C
>> > and
>> > > > 26C the entire time, which is on a par with Darwin.  Very
> unpleasant.
>> > You
>> > > > would think that with 40C and 25C DP and an approaching deep
>> trough
>> from
>> > the
>> > > > west, some decent thunderstorms might develop, but actually
>> almost
>> > nothing
>> > > > worth mentioning.
>> > > >
>> > > > However, yesterday did produce some thundery showers late in the
> day,
>> > with
>> > > > this rather photogenic little downburst captured over the
>> Brisbane
>> > western
>> > > > suburbs: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/080104b.jpg
>> > > >
>> > > > But spare a thought for the folks in Birdsville in SW QLD, after
>> 3 consecutive days of max temps around 47C, they managed 2 days
>> at
> 49C,
>> > the
>> > > > first of which was apparently a January record.  Such temps do
>> not
>> bear
>> > > > thinking about.
>> > > >
>> > > > Go the AirCon.
>> > > >
>> > > > John.
>> > > >
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Hi Jimmy,

In case you were not aware, we actually have had that facility via
http://www.bsch.au.com/
for as long as I can remember :)  (and Thankyou Ben!!)

John.
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Hi all,

Brett Vilnis has updated the www.stormchasing.com.au website. That site is
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Ive never come across this site before, but am I safe in assuming that
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have personal names and trading names ie names by which you sell but aren't 
covered by an ACN or ABN - that's how I got my RaceNews domain - isn't a 
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main site since around 1990.

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>
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Matt,

www.stormchasing.com.au is part of www.weatherdownunder.net /
www.weatherdownunder.net.au ( Weather Down Under Pty Ltd) . WDU also runs
storm chasing tours and hold a meeting once a month for those who want to
learn about weather ( ASC: Australian Storm Chasers ) hence
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Ltd ( www.myisp.net.au ) which is also a Domain Name Register so I do know
the laws on Domain Name very well and all is legal.

Cheers,

Brett
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>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Goo</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">d</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> stuff Kevin, I found it very interesting.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I have only kept records here since Nov 2002 but have graphed some of the more interesting data, which is found</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> </SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/wxgraphs.htm"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">here.</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Cheers</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">David Simpson</FONT></SPAN></A></P>

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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-us"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">-----Original Message-----<BR>
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com [<A HREF="mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com">mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com</A>] On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland<BR>
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Subject: aus-wx: Wycheproof Rainfall 2003</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Hi every1,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">The following link shows my rainfall records for 2003:</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"><A HREF="http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg">http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Kevin from Wycheproof.</FONT></SPAN></P>

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  <A title=david at stormplanet.com href="mailto:david at stormplanet.com">David 
  Simpson</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 14, 2004 6:11 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: aus-wx: Wycheproof Rainfall 
  2003</DIV>
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  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Goo</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>d</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2> stuff 
  Kevin, I found it very interesting.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au> <FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2>I have only kept records here since Nov 2002 but 
  have graphed some of the more interesting data, which is 
  found</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au> </SPAN><A 
  href="http://www.stormplanet.com/wxgraphs.htm"><SPAN lang=en-au><U><FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>here.</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN 
  lang=en-au></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN><A name=""><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2>David Simpson</FONT></SPAN></A></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A 
  href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</A></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>-----Original 
  Message-----<BR>From: <A 
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  [<A 
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  On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland<BR>Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 2:55 PM<BR>To: 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR>Subject: aus-wx: Wycheproof Rainfall 
  2003</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Hi 
  every1,</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The following 
  link shows my rainfall records for 2003:</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A 
  href="http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg">http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Kevin from 
  Wycheproof.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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From: "Duncan & Mandy" <duncman at octa4.net.au>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Geez, I thought here has been dry lately! But 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: aus-wx: Wycheproof Rainfall 
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  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Goo</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>d</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2> stuff 
  Kevin, I found it very interesting.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au> <FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2>I have only kept records here since Nov 2002 but 
  have graphed some of the more interesting data, which is 
  found</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au> </SPAN><A 
  href="http://www.stormplanet.com/wxgraphs.htm"><SPAN lang=en-au><U><FONT 
  face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>here.</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN 
  lang=en-au></SPAN></A><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Cheers</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN><A name=""><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT 
  face="Courier New" size=2>David Simpson</FONT></SPAN></A></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A 
  href="http://www.stormplanet.com">www.stormplanet.com</A></FONT></SPAN></P>
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  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>-----Original 
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  On Behalf Of Kevin Phyland<BR>Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 2:55 PM<BR>To: 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR>Subject: aus-wx: Wycheproof Rainfall 
  2003</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=en-au></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Hi 
  every1,</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>The following 
  link shows my rainfall records for 2003:</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><A 
  href="http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg">http://kendall.50g.com/wycheproof2003.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" 
  size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></P>
  <P align=left><SPAN lang=en-au><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Kevin from 
  Wycheproof.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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No objection, but a location would obviously help!

At 14/01/2004 19:07 14/01/2004, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>
>
>Weather Down Under, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = 
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Australia's largest online 
>weather shop is currently looking for a new Business Unit Leader. This 
>position will involve the day to day management of phone and internet 
>sales, technical support in addition to development of new markets and 
>product lines.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = 
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
>
>  Applicants for this position should have knowledge of weather or weather 
> products. The successful applicant will be a self starter who is computer 
> and internet literate. Good communication skills are essential for this 
> position as the successful applicant will be working closely with the 
> business principals and an expanding client base. Sales and marketing 
> experience, administration skills and business acumen would be an advantage.
>
>If you are interested in this position 
>email  <mailto:brett at weatherdownunder.net>brett at weatherdownunder.net  with 
>a copy of your resume or phone me on 4577 8699.
>
>
>
>I Hope nobody minds this being posted here, I'm try to get some body that 
>has a passion for weather rather than somebody that just needs a job.
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Brett

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Thanks Stephen,

That may help, our office is at Windsor in NSW near Richmond RAAF Air Base.

Cheers,

Brett
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> No objection, but a location would obviously help!
>
> At 14/01/2004 19:07 14/01/2004, you wrote:
> >Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> >Weather Down Under, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Australia's largest online
> >weather shop is currently looking for a new Business Unit Leader. This
> >position will involve the day to day management of phone and internet
> >sales, technical support in addition to development of new markets and
> >product lines.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> >
> >  Applicants for this position should have knowledge of weather or
weather
> > products. The successful applicant will be a self starter who is
computer
> > and internet literate. Good communication skills are essential for this
> > position as the successful applicant will be working closely with the
> > business principals and an expanding client base. Sales and marketing
> > experience, administration skills and business acumen would be an
advantage.
> >
> >If you are interested in this position
> >email  <mailto:brett at weatherdownunder.net>brett at weatherdownunder.net
with
> >a copy of your resume or phone me on 4577 8699.
> >
> >
> >
> >I Hope nobody minds this being posted here, I'm try to get some body that
> >has a passion for weather rather than somebody that just needs a job.
> >
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Brett
>
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No problem - recognised the 45 code - but then realised - thats a BIG area :)

Bummer it's in NSW though :(

At 14/01/2004 21:18 14/01/2004, you wrote:
>Thanks Stephen,
>
>That may help, our office is at Windsor in NSW near Richmond RAAF Air Base.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Brett

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Hi all,

Brett Vilnis has updated the www.stormchasing.com.au website. That site is 
coming along fine. I particularly like the way the album is so flexible in 
allowing people's images to be displayed free!!

The meeting this Saturday 17th January 2004 should be back to the regular 
action packed BBQ meeting with some excellent current weather videos, 
slides and informative severe weather educational presentations. Jeff 
Brislane and Matt Piper will have edited video and slides of some excellent 
recent storm action. They have really got around this season. Nick Moir has 
confirmed that he will be presenting his slides and this will include the 
recent Terry Hills fires with Brett's presentation.

Should be great!!

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

-----------------------------------------
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At 01:45 PM 1/14/04 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi Jimmy,
>
>In case you were not aware, we actually have had that facility via
>http://www.bsch.au.com/
>for as long as I can remember :)  (and Thankyou Ben!!)

Excellent. I suppose this gives options of where people can submit their 
photographs. We also have a submission area on Australian Severe 
Weather  website        www.australiasevereweather.com       as well. Of 
course myself and Michael Bath do it manually on our website using the 
naming convention. We prefer to do it manually.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara


>John.
> >snip
>
>Hi all,
>
>Brett Vilnis has updated the www.stormchasing.com.au website. That site is
>coming along fine. I particularly like the way the album is so flexible in
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Brett,
Sounds interesting but as I am in Canberra unless we can operate through the 
internet and my home Office I would have to count my self out..Is that so?
Gavin
Gilmore Canberra
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>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:18:39 +1100
>
>Thanks Stephen,
>
>That may help, our office is at Windsor in NSW near Richmond RAAF Air Base.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Brett
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>From: "Stephen Rowe" <racetime at racetime.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:40 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Work
>
>
> > No objection, but a location would obviously help!
> >
> > At 14/01/2004 19:07 14/01/2004, you wrote:
> > >Hello all,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Weather Down Under, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
> > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Australia's largest 
>online
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> > >sales, technical support in addition to development of new markets and
> > >product lines.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> > >
> > >  Applicants for this position should have knowledge of weather or
>weather
> > > products. The successful applicant will be a self starter who is
>computer
> > > and internet literate. Good communication skills are essential for 
>this
> > > position as the successful applicant will be working closely with the
> > > business principals and an expanding client base. Sales and marketing
> > > experience, administration skills and business acumen would be an
>advantage.
> > >
> > >If you are interested in this position
> > >email  <mailto:brett at weatherdownunder.net>brett at weatherdownunder.net
>with
> > >a copy of your resume or phone me on 4577 8699.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I Hope nobody minds this being posted here, I'm try to get some body 
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> > >has a passion for weather rather than somebody that just needs a job.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >Brett
> >
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> > Melbourne Australia
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Hi Brett

Thanks for that! WDU holds storm chasing tours as well? good stuff, hope it all
goes well!

Matt Smith

Brett Vilnis wrote:

> Matt,
>
> www.stormchasing.com.au is part of www.weatherdownunder.net /
> www.weatherdownunder.net.au ( Weather Down Under Pty Ltd) . WDU also runs
> storm chasing tours and hold a meeting once a month for those who want to
> learn about weather ( ASC: Australian Storm Chasers ) hence
> www.stormchasing.com.au . One of my other business's is MyISP Australia Pty
> Ltd ( www.myisp.net.au ) which is also a Domain Name Register so I do know
> the laws on Domain Name very well and all is legal.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brett
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Smith" <tornado at idx.com.au>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:04 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: website
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Ive never come across this site before, but am I safe in assuming that
> > the words "storm chasing" are registered as a business name in Australia
> > now this website is up?
> > To my knowledge only business's could get .com.au domain names
> >
> > Matt Smith
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Hi Stephen,

Not my first option but I will keep it in mine.

Cheers,

Brett
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>
>
> Brett,
> Sounds interesting but as I am in Canberra unless we can operate through
the
> internet and my home Office I would have to count my self out..Is that so?
> Gavin
> Gilmore Canberra
> >From: "Brett Vilnis" <brett at weatherdownunder.net>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Work
> >Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:18:39 +1100
> >
> >Thanks Stephen,
> >
> >That may help, our office is at Windsor in NSW near Richmond RAAF Air
Base.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Brett
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stephen Rowe" <racetime at racetime.com.au>
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: aus-wx: Weather Work
> >
> >
> > > No objection, but a location would obviously help!
> > >
> > > At 14/01/2004 19:07 14/01/2004, you wrote:
> > > >Hello all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Weather Down Under, <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns =
> > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Australia's largest
> >online
> > > >weather shop is currently looking for a new Business Unit Leader.
This
> > > >position will involve the day to day management of phone and internet
> > > >sales, technical support in addition to development of new markets
and
> > > >product lines.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns =
> > > >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
> > > >
> > > >  Applicants for this position should have knowledge of weather or
> >weather
> > > > products. The successful applicant will be a self starter who is
> >computer
> > > > and internet literate. Good communication skills are essential for
> >this
> > > > position as the successful applicant will be working closely with
the
> > > > business principals and an expanding client base. Sales and
marketing
> > > > experience, administration skills and business acumen would be an
> >advantage.
> > > >
> > > >If you are interested in this position
> > > >email  <mailto:brett at weatherdownunder.net>brett at weatherdownunder.net
> >with
> > > >a copy of your resume or phone me on 4577 8699.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I Hope nobody minds this being posted here, I'm try to get some body
> >that
> > > >has a passion for weather rather than somebody that just needs a job.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Brett
> > >
> > > RaceTime / RaceNews
> > > Melbourne Australia
> > > web  : http://www.racetime.com.au
> > > email: racetime at racetime.com.au
> > > news: www.racenews.com.au
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Hi Matt,

Thanks mate, yes it's been a great season for us and the USA is looking even
better.

Cheers,

Brett
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> Hi Brett
>
> Thanks for that! WDU holds storm chasing tours as well? good stuff, hope
it all
> goes well!
>
> Matt Smith
>
> Brett Vilnis wrote:
>
> > Matt,
> >
> > www.stormchasing.com.au is part of www.weatherdownunder.net /
> > www.weatherdownunder.net.au ( Weather Down Under Pty Ltd) . WDU also
runs
> > storm chasing tours and hold a meeting once a month for those who want
to
> > learn about weather ( ASC: Australian Storm Chasers ) hence
> > www.stormchasing.com.au . One of my other business's is MyISP Australia
Pty
> > Ltd ( www.myisp.net.au ) which is also a Domain Name Register so I do
know
> > the laws on Domain Name very well and all is legal.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Brett
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matt Smith" <tornado at idx.com.au>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 3:04 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: website
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Ive never come across this site before, but am I safe in assuming that
> > > the words "storm chasing" are registered as a business name in
Australia
> > > now this website is up?
> > > To my knowledge only business's could get .com.au domain names
> > >
> > > Matt Smith
> > >
> > >
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Hi all tropos.

A grand looking tropical low over west Queensland edging southward so who's
for a wish forecast? and hope it continues to move to the south through NSW
and Victoria!.regards Clyve H.

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Clyve and all,
I been watching this T.D. since it developed over the N.T. with the same 
hopes as you,  but its quite some time since one of these headed through 
Western N.S.W. into Vic. They usually get caught up in the westerlies over 
northern N.S.W. and swept out into the Tasman Sea.While I have a function  
here on Saturday, I would not mind a bit of what Mount Isa has been having! 
Still lts still worth watching.
Gavin
SSWW Gilmore  Canberra


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>Hi all tropos.
>
>A grand looking tropical low over west Queensland edging southward so who's
>for a wish forecast? and hope it continues to move to the south through NSW
>and Victoria!.regards Clyve H.
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Hi Gavin and all.
Its been  a very interesting and long lived feature it brings back memories
of a similar although larger tropical low that broke the 1982/83 drought in
March 83. It appears in this case that your analysis of the upper westerlies
appears dominant in dissipating the moisture plume towards NZ.  Another
aspect of Australia at the moment is the singularity of the TD system with
not much else occurring over the remainder of the continent, .there is a
huge dry wedge extending from Victoria through SA to the west Kimberly
associated with a strong upper ridge.....regards Clyve H
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> Clyve and all,
> I been watching this T.D. since it developed over the N.T. with the same
> hopes as you,  but its quite some time since one of these headed through
> Western N.S.W. into Vic. They usually get caught up in the westerlies over
> northern N.S.W. and swept out into the Tasman Sea.While I have a function
> here on Saturday, I would not mind a bit of what Mount Isa has been
having!
> Still lts still worth watching.
> Gavin
> SSWW Gilmore  Canberra
>
>
> >From: "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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> >Subject: aus-wx: Queensland tropical low
> >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:13:10 +1100
> >
> >Hi all tropos.
> >
> >A grand looking tropical low over west Queensland edging southward so
who's
> >for a wish forecast? and hope it continues to move to the south through
NSW
> >and Victoria!.regards Clyve H.
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That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various parts of the state.
Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am and 7pm this evening
approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of that in the last couple of
hours which has caused the dams surrounding to flood and the creek running
through my acerage to flow, cutting off our driveway with knee deep water.

A few images are here just to gague the amount actually fallen this
afternoon.  Incredible stuff!

http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg
through to _0007

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Those are great shots Dale. I wish it 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I bet Springbrook's going to get a 
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  low</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various parts of 
  the state.<BR>Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am and 7pm this 
  evening<BR>approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of that in the last 
  couple of<BR>hours which has caused the dams surrounding to flood and the 
  creek running<BR>through my acerage to flow, cutting off our driveway with 
  knee deep water.<BR><BR>A few images are here just to gague the amount 
  actually fallen this<BR>afternoon.&nbsp; Incredible stuff!<BR><BR><A 
  href="http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg">http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg</A><BR>through 
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<DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I wish 
it would do that here at Mt. Crosby SEQ, only 15mm for the same period, after a 
total of 18mm yesterday&nbsp;:(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But 
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size=2>Strangely, we have noted in the past 2 weeks or so, ant invasions in the 
upper storey of our house.&nbsp; I woke 2 days ago to find ants having a nibble 
on me in bed, which was a first (little tiny black buggers), and most 
unpleasant.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Those are great shots Dale. I wish 
  it would do that in Sydney!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I bet Springbrook's going to get a 
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    <DIV><BR></DIV>That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various parts 
    of the state.<BR>Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am and 7pm 
    this evening<BR>approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of that in the 
    last couple of<BR>hours which has caused the dams surrounding to flood and 
    the creek running<BR>through my acerage to flow, cutting off our driveway 
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    actually fallen this<BR>afternoon.&nbsp; Incredible stuff!<BR><BR><A 
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:29:17 +0800
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Those are great pictures, Dale.
Thanks for sharing them with us.
No floods in Everton Park but my wife says on the phone tonight that the 
garden's growing like crazy.  She reckons you can nearly see the tomato 
plants rising after all that rain!

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Queensland tropical low

> That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various parts of the
> state.
> Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am and 7pm this evening
> approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of that in the last couple
> of
> hours which has caused the dams surrounding to flood and the creek
> running
> through my acerage to flow, cutting off our driveway with knee deep
> water.
> 
> A few images are here just to gague the amount actually fallen this
> afternoon.  Incredible stuff!
> 
> http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg
> through to _0007
> 
> Cheers
> *Dale*
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That's some awesome rainfall. To think that here it takes all year to get
600mm and you get nearly a quarter of that in a few hours!
Nice picture. You could ease the flooding a bit though by opening that gate
and letting the water out :-))
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> That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various parts of the state.
> Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am and 7pm this evening
> approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of that in the last couple of
> hours which has caused the dams surrounding to flood and the creek running
> through my acerage to flow, cutting off our driveway with knee deep water.
>
> A few images are here just to gague the amount actually fallen this
> afternoon.  Incredible stuff!
>
> http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg
> through to _0007
>
> Cheers
> *Dale*
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<DIV><SPAN class=741405901-16012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
would say extremely probable based on the damage survey, and in particular, 
debris thown into the prevailing wind direction.&nbsp; Even a small downburst 
would have generated a much wider damage path with many trees randonly scattered 
along the line showing damage, and it would have been strongly 
oriented&nbsp;downwind IMO.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=741405901-16012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>John.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  Smail<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, 16 January 2004 9:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 
  aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Inverleigh 
  Tornado?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi all, Thanks to the kind 
  co-operation of Jane O’Neill, I have just finished my report on this suspected 
  tornadic event on 21-12-03, now at:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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  style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’d be interested to know what 
  others think.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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From: "sgalow" <sgalow at ihug.com.au>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:36:30 +1000
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>whell here in Pinjarra Hills area , we have 
had&nbsp; over 40 mm of rain each for the past&nbsp; 2 days , this is recorded 
on&nbsp; the house roof , at 0.5 mm / reading </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and calculated from 9 am to 9 am for a 24 hour 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>stephen </FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=jrw at pixelcom.net href="mailto:jrw at pixelcom.net">John Woodbridge</A> 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 16, 2004 12:00 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: aus-wx: Queensland tropical 
  low</DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
  wish it would do that here at Mt. Crosby SEQ, only 15mm for the same period, 
  after a total of 18mm yesterday&nbsp;:(</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>But 
  there has been quite a bit of rain since 8:00pm so, here's hoping for a decent 
  dump...&nbsp; Sure got a good setup for it and the&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
  class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>frogs are going 
  ballistic.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Strangely, we have noted in the past 2 weeks or so, ant invasions in 
  the upper storey of our house.&nbsp; I woke 2 days ago to find ants having a 
  nibble on me in bed, which was a first (little tiny black buggers), and most 
  unpleasant.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=228235313-15012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>John.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com 
    [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Keith 
    Barnett<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, 15 January 2004 8:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
    aussie-weather at world.std.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: Queensland 
    tropical low<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Those are great shots Dale. I 
    wish it would do that in Sydney!</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I bet Springbrook's going to get 
    a decent soaking...it usually does with tropical influences.</FONT></DIV>
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      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A title=x4y2z5c1v4b7x at overflow.net.au 
      href="mailto:x4y2z5c1v4b7x at overflow.net.au">Dale Small</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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      </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:59 
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: Queensland 
      tropical low</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>That low is sure bringing some welcome rain to various 
      parts of the state.<BR>Here in Jimboomba, south of Brisbane, between 9am 
      and 7pm this evening<BR>approx. 130mm of rain has fallen, over half of 
      that in the last couple of<BR>hours which has caused the dams surrounding 
      to flood and the creek running<BR>through my acerage to flow, cutting off 
      our driveway with knee deep water.<BR><BR>A few images are here just to 
      gague the amount actually fallen this<BR>afternoon.&nbsp; Incredible 
      stuff!<BR><BR><A 
      href="http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg">http://www.overflow.net.au/~x4y2z5c1v4b7x/wx/flooding/150104_0001.jpg</A><BR>through 
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:14:29 -0600
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Again, Wonderful Friends:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The brutal conditions atop Mt. Washington, N.H. (as 
of 9:53 P.M. ET, Thursday, Jan 15) Fog, Visibility: 0.1mi(160M), 
Temp.:-41F(-40.5C), Wind Chill: -91F(-68.3C=the lowest wind chill that I've ever 
seen). Wind: WNW at 76mph(122+kph) gusting to 86mph(138+kph).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Their max yesterday (Wed the 14th) was 
-23F(-30.5C), their min* was -45F(-42.7C).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>*=this is a record low for the date (old record was 
-38F[-38.8C] in 1965).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Their avg. temps for Jan 14 are a max of 
14F(-10.0C) with a min of -4F(-20.0C).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Several towns in the NE US have broken (smashed) 
record lows for the date and record low maximums for the date. Quite a few of 
the records are very old; Boston, Ma., broke records for low maximums set in 
1875.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many areas in the NE are under a Wind-Chill 
Warning.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Makes me glad that I'm a little further 
South!</FONT></DIV>
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A company I do work for occasionally will be involved in a film shoot in 
either Sydney or Melbourne in February. For insurance purposes they will 
be required to have a weather observer on location to keep a detailed 
log of the weather. The probable dates are 13th-17th Feb and 20th-22nd 
Feb and the location, as I said, will be either Sydney or Melbourne.

If anyone is interested in taking on this work, or knows anyone who 
might be, please e-mail me with a brief c.v. and details of the fee you 
would charge.

I have no personal involvement in this project. I am merely making this 
enquiry on behalf of a client.

Regards to all from a cool and breezy UK.

Norman Lynagh
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Norman Lynagh Weather Consultancy
Chalfont St Giles
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colder in NE USA than mars when the rover landed the other day.
Needless to say i was impressed

Les


At 10:14 PM 15/01/2004 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello Again, Wonderful Friends:
>
>The brutal conditions atop Mt. Washington, N.H. (as of 9:53 P.M. ET, 
>Thursday, Jan 15) Fog, Visibility: 0.1mi(160M), Temp.:-41F(-40.5C), Wind 
>Chill: -91F(-68.3C=the lowest wind chill that I've ever seen). Wind: WNW 
>at 76mph(122+kph) gusting to 86mph(138+kph).
>Their max yesterday (Wed the 14th) was -23F(-30.5C), their min* was 
>-45F(-42.7C).
>*=this is a record low for the date (old record was -38F[-38.8C] in 1965).
>Their avg. temps for Jan 14 are a max of 14F(-10.0C) with a min of 
>-4F(-20.0C).
>
>Several towns in the NE US have broken (smashed) record lows for the date 
>and record low maximums for the date. Quite a few of the records are very 
>old; Boston, Ma., broke records for low maximums set in 1875.
>Many areas in the NE are under a Wind-Chill Warning.
>
>Makes me glad that I'm a little further South!
>Currently, cloudy, (rain on the way) and 45F(7.2F).
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Lindsay I found the report most
interesting. I was chasing in the Western Districts that weekend and had a few
encounters with the thunderstorm line as it moved through the state on the
Sunday, thanks for putting the report together.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Month="1" Day="16" Year="2004"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> aussie-weather at world.std.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> aus-wx: Inverleigh
Tornado?</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi all, Thanks to the kind
co-operation of Jane O&#8217;Neill, I have just finished my report on this
suspected tornadic event on </span></font><st1:date Month="12" Day="21"
Year="2003"><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
 Arial'>21-12-03</span></font></st1:date><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, now at:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>and click on front page.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I&#8217;d be interested to know what
others think.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoAutoSig style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
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At 04:13 p.m. 15/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hi all tropos.<br><br>
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From: "Rhett Blanch" <rhettaj at ozemail.com.au>
To: "Aussie-Weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 12:38:31 +1100
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Subject: aus-wx: Major Flooding Peel River (Tamworth)



Hi all,
With significant rainfall in the Tamworth region overnight (105.2mm to 9am
at Tamworth Airport AWS) combined with rain earlier in the week,  the Peel
is heading for a major flood today. Its a dramatic shift from the dry spell
that has been experienced through much of summer.  It looks like the flood
will peak at a similar level to the November 2000 event (6.22m)
(http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/20001119_tamworth.htm).  It certainly
has sent the country music fans scurrying
(http://www.abc.net.au/newengland/stories/s1027053.htm) and brings back
memories of the 1984 event which occurred at a similar time
(http://www.wilgatree.com/reporting/19840131_tamworth.htm).

Regards
Rhett

Flood warning:
IDN36622
RENEWED MAJOR
FLOOD WARNING FOR THE PEEL RIVER AT TAMWORTH
AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT
BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY
NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL OFFICE
Issued at 9:56am on Saturday the 17th of January 2004

Flood Warning Number : 3

In the Peel River Valley, an average 100 millimetres of rain has fallen
during
the past 24 hours to 9am this morning. During the past 3 hours an average of
20
millimetres of rain has been recorded.

River levels continue to rise rapidly at Tamworth. MAJOR flooding is
expected in
Tamworth today.

At this stage it is not possible to predict the flood peak because of the
uncertainty of how much more rain will fall.


For emergency assistance contact the State Emergency Service on telephone
number
13 2500.

River Height Predictions

Tamworth Road Bridge Exceed 6.3 metres around this afternoon
with Major Flooding.


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From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=616330723-16012004>105.2mm of rain in 
24hrs at Tamworth overnoght <A 
href="http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml">http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN65092/IDN65092.95762.shtml</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=616330723-16012004>Major Flooding 
predicted today during the country music festival.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=616330723-16012004>Im off to get some 
photos for you all, back soon.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
class=616330723-16012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=616330723-16012004>In total we (at 
home) have had 171mm of rain in&nbsp;6 days.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=616330723-16012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>IDN36622<BR>RENEWED&nbsp; MAJOR<BR>FLOOD WARNING&nbsp; FOR THE PEEL RIVER 
AT TAMWORTH<BR>AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT<BR>BUREAU OF METEOROLOGY<BR>NEW SOUTH WALES 
REGIONAL OFFICE<BR>Issued at 9:56am on Saturday the 17th of January 2004<SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
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Warning Number : 3&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR><BR>In the Peel River 
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hours to 9am this morning. During the past 3 hours an average of 
20<BR>millimetres of rain has been recorded.<BR><BR>River levels continue to 
rise rapidly at Tamworth. MAJOR flooding is expected in<BR>Tamworth 
today.<BR><BR>At this stage it is not possible to predict the flood peak because 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are the piccies from Jan 17th 
11AM.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Emergency Night Time Evacuation of thousands of 
country music campers occurred last night along the camping/sporting grounds 
(Opposite the CBD).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paradise Bridge Camping Ground (First bridge along 
the Peel): <BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First Major bend after Paradise Bridge: 
<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Tamworth Bridge: <BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Country Music Festival Camping Ground: 
<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.j<SPAN 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tamworth Lookout (11AM): <BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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color=#0000ff size=2>Error in First Pictures Large Image, It sould be<FONT 
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color=#0000ff size=2><FONT color=#000000>Paradise Bridge Camping Ground (First 
bridge along the Peel): </FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Simon Fearby [mailto:simon at fearby.com] 
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, 17 January 2004 1:12 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 
'aussie-weather at world.std.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Flooding piccies of 
Tamworth<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are the piccies from Jan 17th 
11AM.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Emergency Night Time Evacuation of thousands of 
country music campers occurred last night along the camping/sporting grounds 
(Opposite the CBD).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paradise Bridge Camping Ground (First bridge along 
the Peel): <BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First Major bend after Paradise Bridge: 
<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Tamworth Bridge: <BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Country Music Festival Camping Ground: 
<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.j<SPAN 
class=415481002-17012004>pg</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tamworth Lookout (11AM): <BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 16:27:53 +1030
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>At 04:13 p.m. 15/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Hi all tropos.<BR><BR>A grand 
    looking tropical low over west Queensland edging southward so who's<BR>for a 
    wish forecast? and hope it continues to move to the south through NSW<BR>and 
    Victoria!.regards Clyve H.<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><I>...so who's for a wish 
  forecast<BR><BR></I>I am. I wish it would move more so over our direction 
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At 01:12 p.m. 17/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2>Here are
the piccies from Jan 17th 11AM.</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Emergency Night Time Evacuation of thousands of
country music campers occurred last night along the camping/sporting
grounds (Opposite the CBD).</font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Paradise Bridge Camping Ground (First bridge
along the Peel): <br>
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg</a><br>
Large Image 500+k:&nbsp;
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg</a></font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>First Major bend after Paradise Bridge: <br>
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg</a></font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp;
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge.jpg</a></font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Main Tamworth Bridge: <br>
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg</a></font><br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp;
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge.jpg</a></font><br>
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<font face="arial" size=2>Main Country Music Festival Camping Ground:
<br>
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg</a></font><br>
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<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg</a></font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
<font face="arial" size=2>Tamworth Lookout (11AM): <br>
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg</a><br>
Large Image 500+k:&nbsp;
<a href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout.jpg</a></font><br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;</blockquote><br><br>
I wish I could of sent you photos of the Rakaia and Rangitata River
sending down volumes of water when the rest of the provence of Canterbury
is in drought.<br>
There should be some sort of river enhancement to use some of that water
for watering the dry paddox that the rivers flow by and out to sea!<br>
Watse!<br><br>
JohnGaul<br>
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<DIV><BR>Country Music Campers along the river bank dont want to move away from 
their good camp sites:</DIV>
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<DIV>Larger Photo 1,500k: <A 
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<DIV>2 movie(s) looking up river from this bridge:</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>This movie shows the water flow coming under the paradise bridge 
(3.3MB):<BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_01_up_river.mov]paradise_bridge_01_up_river.mov">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_01_up_river.mov]paradise_bridge_01_up_river.mov</A> 
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<DIV>This movie shows the water flow coming under the paradise bridge (pans 
left, 5.1MB):<BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_02_up_river.mov]paradise_bridge_02_up_river.mov">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_02_up_river.mov]paradise_bridge_02_up_river.mov</A> 
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<DIV>This photo looks south of the photo above but shows the water dropping 
around a bend:</DIV>
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href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_1PM_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_1PM_sm.jpg</A></DIV>
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<DIV>Larger Photo 1,200k: 
[URL=http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_1PM.jpg</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>This movie shows the water looking down river, 4.6MB):<BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_02_down_river.mov]paradise_bridge_02_down_river.mov">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/paradise_bridge_02_down_river.mov]paradise_bridge_02_down_river.mov</A> 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>This photo is just around the bend of the two photos above (notice the 
flood water in the distance):</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/river_look_like_a_lake_in_distance_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/river_look_like_a_lake_in_distance_sm.jpg</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Larger Photo 720k: 
[URL=http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/river_look_like_a_lake_in_distance.jpg</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>360 spin on the george fielder bridge (5.3MB):<BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/george_fielder_bridge_CBD.mov]george_fielder_bridge_CBD.mov">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/george_fielder_bridge_CBD.mov]george_fielder_bridge_CBD.mov</A> 
</DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>This photo looks back over towards Tamworth's hills over the sporting 
grounds (The water is now much deeper):</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/sporting_fields_cbd_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/sporting_fields_cbd_sm.jpg</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Large Photo 800k: 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I will upload more photos after the peak of the flood (expected at 
6PM)</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:26:35 +1100
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Great pics Simon. Wow, you got some serious water 
problems there at present. And how appropriate with the music festival on the 
doorstep. Mate of mine is going from here and I'm keeping him 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Flooding piccies of 
  Tamworth</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are the piccies from Jan 17th 
  11AM.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Emergency Night Time Evacuation of thousands of 
  country music campers occurred last night along the camping/sporting grounds 
  (Opposite the CBD).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paradise Bridge Camping Ground (First bridge 
  along the Peel): <BR><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/king_george_bridge_campers_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>First Major bend after Paradise Bridge: 
  <BR></FONT><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/paradise_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Tamworth Bridge: <BR></FONT><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
  face=Arial 
  size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/main_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Country Music Festival Camping Ground: 
  <BR></FONT><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg"><FONT 
  face=Arial 
  size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground_sm.jpg</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>Large Image 500+k:&nbsp; </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.jpg]http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/festival_camping_ground.j<SPAN 
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tamworth Lookout (11AM): <BR><A 
  href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/tamworth_lookout_sm.jpg</A><BR>Large 
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>Here are the final pictures of 
todays Floods in Tamworth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paradise Bridge at the floods peak looking down 
river (6PM):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Paradise Bridge at the floods peak looking up river 
(6PM):<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_paradise_bridge_02_sm.jpg"><FONT 
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size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_paradise_bridge_02_sm.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Main Bridge at the floods peak looking down river 
(6:30PM):<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_main_bridge_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_main_bridge_sm.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Video of the main river 3,400kb: </FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_main_river_at_cbd.mov"><FONT 
face=Arial 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Views from the Jewry Street Bridge (Lower end of 
Tamworth Flood Plains):<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_street_bridge_01_sm.jpg"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_street_bridge_01_sm.jpg</FONT></A></DIV>
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</FONT></SPAN><A 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Flooded Sporting/ Country Music Festival camping 
grounds:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_stsporting_grounds_sm.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_stsporting_grounds_sm.jpg</A></FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT 
face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Video of the water rushing 
under the Jewry Street Bridge (3,615kb): <BR><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_st_bridge_looking_south.mov">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_st_bridge_looking_south.mov</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>360 view of the flooded sporting/country music 
festival camping grounds (6,745kb): <BR><A 
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Clyve,
The edge of the cloud band reached us  yesterday  PM (Friday)  with a narrow 
but very heavy rain band giving us 12 mm in 50 mins between 1510 and 1600 
yet the Tuggeranong AWS only about 3 km further west of us and Canberra A/P 
about 10 km north of us had no rain!. We have a 1,ooo gallon rain water tank 
up the back and the runoff  off our Garage and back verandah roofs  added 
about 300 gallons! There was even some local flash flooding . We had a few 
more mm last night but strong warm N.W winds  gusting to 75 km/hr probably 
negated the effect on gardens today.
Gavin


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>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:49:39 +1100
>
>Hi Gavin and all.
>Its been  a very interesting and long lived feature it brings back memories
>of a similar although larger tropical low that broke the 1982/83 drought in
>March 83. It appears in this case that your analysis of the upper 
>westerlies
>appears dominant in dissipating the moisture plume towards NZ.  Another
>aspect of Australia at the moment is the singularity of the TD system with
>not much else occurring over the remainder of the continent, .there is a
>huge dry wedge extending from Victoria through SA to the west Kimberly
>associated with a strong upper ridge.....regards Clyve H
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>Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:37 PM
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>
>
> > Clyve and all,
> > I been watching this T.D. since it developed over the N.T. with the same
> > hopes as you,  but its quite some time since one of these headed through
> > Western N.S.W. into Vic. They usually get caught up in the westerlies 
>over
> > northern N.S.W. and swept out into the Tasman Sea.While I have a 
>function
> > here on Saturday, I would not mind a bit of what Mount Isa has been
>having!
> > Still lts still worth watching.
> > Gavin
> > SSWW Gilmore  Canberra
> >
> >
> > >From: "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > >To: "aussie weather" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > >Subject: aus-wx: Queensland tropical low
> > >Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:13:10 +1100
> > >
> > >Hi all tropos.
> > >
> > >A grand looking tropical low over west Queensland edging southward so
>who's
> > >for a wish forecast? and hope it continues to move to the south through
>NSW
> > >and Victoria!.regards Clyve H.
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Thanks for the pics Simon
,I know Tamworth well and remeber a similar fate hit the Country Music 
Festival back in 1980, I think it was,  as I almost didn't make it to UNE 
Armidale..
Gavin
SSWW Canberra


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>Subject: aus-wx: Here are the final pictures of todays Floods in Tamworth.
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>Here are the final pictures of todays Floods in Tamworth.
>
>Paradise Bridge at the floods peak looking down river (6PM):
>
>
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>Paradise Bridge at the floods peak looking up river (6PM):
>
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>Views from the Jewry Street Bridge (Lower end of Tamworth Flood Plains):
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>Flooded Sporting/ Country Music Festival camping grounds:
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>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/17th/floods/pm/6pm_jewry_st_bridge_
>looking_south.mov
>
>360 view of the flooded sporting/country music festival camping grounds
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Stephen had trouble posting a while ago so I'll have a go.
Check out http://www.geocities.com/sgfiles2000/sunset/ for some great 
photos of sunlit cirrus after the storms in Brisbane this arvo.
Thanks Stephen for posting them.

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Typical British BBC news service, always on the ball with the very LATEST
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Hey everyone,


Couple of pictures from last nights lightning show.

http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm

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Some nice shots there Paul!! Keep up the good work :)

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Thanks a lot - you've made the wife remind me that we have to get up that 
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Good photos - btw - a few dead links from your main page (Misc etc

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Hi Paul,

Very nice Paul. Good to see something of a difference.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

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Wow!  Those are certainly excellent pictures.
We are waiting eagerly on your promise of "More to come!"

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> 
> 
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A few more website updates.....

Firstly a report on the Inverleigh tornado of 21st December (west of
Geelong, Victoria) supplied courtesy of Lindsay Smail (Geelong Weather
Services www.geelongweatherservices.com ) linked here
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/itornado2.htm

Report on downbursts & flashflooding in the Bendigo area on the 30th
December is provided courtesy of Clyve Herbert
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/30_12_03.htm

A couple of image reports from a snowchase on the 27th September
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/27_09_03.htm and

a gentle 700km afternoon drive with a late night cattle herding exercise
on the way home (for me) with images from me going in one direction and
Macca going in the other through northern Victoria......
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/05_10_03.htm

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Hi Paul...keep em coming! Those storms were serious 'leg out bed' lightning
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> Wow!  Those are certainly excellent pictures.
> We are waiting eagerly on your promise of "More to come!"
>
> Phil
> <><
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Hey all,

Some more piccies added now. Can't seem to get the timelapse link to work
but those who are clever should be able to download it anyway.

http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm

Rgds, Paul.
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Hi Paul...keep em coming! Those storms were serious 'leg out bed' lightning
displays! regards Clyve H
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> Wow!  Those are certainly excellent pictures.
> We are waiting eagerly on your promise of "More to come!"
>
> Phil
> <><
>
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You've captured some stunning images from that storm Paul - just
wonderful!!

Cheers,

Jane

--------------------------------
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Hey all,

Some more piccies added now. Can't seem to get the timelapse link to
work
but those who are clever should be able to download it anyway.

http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm

Rgds, Paul.

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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04


More magnificent photos and the time-lapses are terrific.  For those who 
didn't get the time-lapses, just add the folder "images" before the 
filename for each like this:
http://www.crosstravel.com.au/images/17012004.wmv
http://www.crosstravel.com.au/images/17012004-2.wmv
You have packed a night's watching excitement into a pair of brief 
videos ... well done!
Phil
<><

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:09:49 +0930
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04

> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Some more piccies added now. Can't seem to get the timelapse link to
> work
> but those who are clever should be able to download it anyway.
> 
> http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm
> 
> Rgds, Paul.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
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> Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2004 4:40 PM
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> 
> Hi Paul...keep em coming! Those storms were serious 'leg out bed'
> lightning
> displays! regards Clyve H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:26 PM
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> 
> 
> > Wow!  Those are certainly excellent pictures.
> > We are waiting eagerly on your promise of "More to come!"
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> >
> > Phil Smith
> > IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> > International Christian School, Hong Kong
> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:32:53 +0930
> > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04
> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > Couple of pictures from last nights lightning show.
> > >
> > > http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm
> > >
> > > More to come! Enjoy. :)
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From: "Clyve Herbert" <mesof6 at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Another cold morn Vic


Hi all. Looks like there will be some big temp ranges here in Victoria
today, at 0630 recorded a temp of +0.8c and a grass min of -1.8c (Woodend
central ranges) with a good ground frost, not bad for January and the second
ground frost this month. regards Clyve H.

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From: "Margy" <astrogen at tpg.com.au>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04


Hello Paul,
Great to see you added more images, some very nice structure too with that
storm.
Tried to get the timelapses to work, though failed miserably.
very nicely done Paul.
Margy
----- Original Message ----- 
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>
> Hey all,
>
> Some more piccies added now. Can't seem to get the timelapse link to work
> but those who are clever should be able to download it anyway.
>
> http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm
>
> Rgds, Paul.
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Hi Paul...keep em coming! Those storms were serious 'leg out bed'
lightning
> displays! regards Clyve H
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
> To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:26 PM
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04
>
>
> > Wow!  Those are certainly excellent pictures.
> > We are waiting eagerly on your promise of "More to come!"
> >
> > Phil
> > <><
> >
> > Phil Smith
> > IT Teacher - Elementary campus
> > International Christian School, Hong Kong
> > International Christian School E-mail: SmithP at ics.edu.hk
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> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Paul Mossman" <ntstorms at bigpond.com>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:32:53 +0930
> > Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04
> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >
> > > Couple of pictures from last nights lightning show.
> > >
> > > http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm
> > >
> > > More to come! Enjoy. :)
> > >
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<x-flowed>
Hi Clyve,
We had a cool one but not as low as yours- We recordrd 6.9 at 5.08 am at 
Gilmore and 8.9 at 6.05 at Bonython which was a suprise as they are lower 
and usually cooler than us!
Gavin SSWW Gilmore Canberra


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>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:31:40 +1100
>
>Hi all. Looks like there will be some big temp ranges here in Victoria
>today, at 0630 recorded a temp of +0.8c and a grass min of -1.8c (Woodend
>central ranges) with a good ground frost, not bad for January and the 
>second
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From: "Stargazer" <stargazer at picknowl.com.au>
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oi,
ya got yaself a virus there matey ya spreading all over da place ...  :(((

Norton AntiVirus removed the attachment: kbvpqt.exe.
The attachment was infected with the W32.Beagle.A at mm virus. 

Regs, Paul.
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> Test =)
> wohubmdhqro
> --
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From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


Evening all,

if you get an email with the header Hi it most probably has the virus
attached - I've been getting them all day at work - however, they are
not originating from where it seems that they are.  I very much doubt
that Don has the virus on his computer.

How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus from
addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only coming
into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the other
email addresses that run through the same account are getting
them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email address
belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a website or
two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another email
address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do it.

This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't be
blamed for its spread.

Cheers,

Jane

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From: "Doug's Electronics" <dougselectronics at iinet.net.au>
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Yer ive got about 7 of these emails today.
Iv'e got NAV 2003 but it seems that it didn't detect them and delelte them.
I got a message saying a have one of the W32 viruses and that NAV won't
delelte it.
My system has been restarting all day and i wonder if its got something to
do with it


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:23 PM
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> Evening all,
>
> if you get an email with the header Hi it most probably has the virus
> attached - I've been getting them all day at work - however, they are
> not originating from where it seems that they are.  I very much doubt
> that Don has the virus on his computer.
>
> How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus from
> addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only coming
> into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the other
> email addresses that run through the same account are getting
> them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email address
> belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a website or
> two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another email
> address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do it.
>
> This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't be
> blamed for its spread.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jane
>
> --------------------------------
> Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> aussky at iprimus.com.au
>
> Australian Sky & Weather
> http://www.australianskynweather.com
>
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> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
>
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From: "Steven Williams" <nzstorm at ihug.co.nz>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04



Absolutely outstanding pictures.  We see so many good storm photos on this
list but
those are possibly the best lightning photos yet.  What i like is you can
appreciate the scale of the cloud producing the lightning.  I am guessing
that cb is about 30km distant.

Cheers


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Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04


> Hey everyone,
>
>
> Couple of pictures from last nights lightning show.
>
> http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm
>
> More to come! Enjoy. :)
>
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From: "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Subject: aus-wx: Hi virus stopper and its free !!!


Have you updated your virus definitions? Don't mean to sound a smartie.

I use mailwasher. I have seen the "Hi" message many times and mailwasher
picks it up. Mailwasher stops all the crap Spam messages and grabs most
viruses, although I do run Norton as well.
www.mailwasher.net



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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:34 PM
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> Yer ive got about 7 of these emails today.
> Iv'e got NAV 2003 but it seems that it didn't detect them and delelte
them.
> I got a message saying a have one of the W32 viruses and that NAV won't
> delelte it.
> My system has been restarting all day and i wonder if its got something to
> do with it
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
> To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:23 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'
>
>
> > Evening all,
> >
> > if you get an email with the header Hi it most probably has the virus
> > attached - I've been getting them all day at work - however, they are
> > not originating from where it seems that they are.  I very much doubt
> > that Don has the virus on his computer.
> >
> > How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus from
> > addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only coming
> > into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the other
> > email addresses that run through the same account are getting
> > them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email address
> > belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a website or
> > two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another email
> > address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do it.
> >
> > This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't be
> > blamed for its spread.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > aussky at iprimus.com.au
> >
> > Australian Sky & Weather
> > http://www.australianskynweather.com
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
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> > --------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
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From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:52:38 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


If you feel that your system has picked this virus up - this one is
called Bagle-A, go to this site
http://www.sophos.com.au/virusinfo/analyses/w32baglea.html for more
information and a cleaning method.  This site is very reliable and a
sizeable proportion of the computer types out there working with other
people's systems and networks use it religiously.

If you are concerned about any other viruses that might have got through
your defences, this page will give you everything you need to know, and
can use http://www.sophos.com.au/

NOTE from Sophos: "Note that W32/Bagle-A will not activate if the system
date is 28 January 2004 or later."

Cheers,

"computer nerd for a day" Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
aussky at iprimus.com.au

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.australianskynweather.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

***The journey is the reward***
--------------------------------





----- Original Message -----
From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


Evening all,

if you get an email with the header Hi it most probably has the virus
attached - I've been getting them all day at work - however, they are
not originating from where it seems that they are.  I very much doubt
that Don has the virus on his computer.

How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus from
addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only coming
into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the other
email addresses that run through the same account are getting
them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email address
belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a website or
two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another email
address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do it.

This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't be
blamed for its spread.

Cheers,

Jane

--------------------------------
Jane ONeill - Melbourne
aussky at iprimus.com.au

Australian Sky & Weather
http://www.australianskynweather.com

Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
http://www.severeweather.asn.au

***The journey is the reward***
--------------------------------





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From: "Keith Barnett" <kbarnett at bigpond.net.au>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:57:08 +1100
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>When I received Don's email and saw 
the attachment I knew it was a virus so I deleted the message without opening 
the executable.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Jane is correct; the virus has 
attached itself without Don's knowledge. Individuals must not be blamed for 
something they can't help. I say that for the purpose of trying to help 
eliminate these viruses, not because anyone here has 'laid blame', but people 
don't always understand what happens, that's all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>My NAV 2003 didn't intercept and 
quarantine it, which is a worry. And I have been downloading updates every day 
(but not today so far!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Best thing is delete the file without 
opening or executing the attachment, do a scan, get an update for the anti-virus 
program you run (or SHOULD be running!), and if there's still an infection, 
contact the anti-virus program manufacturer.</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=aussky at iprimus.com.au href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">Jane 
  ONeill</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Evening all,<BR><BR>if you get an email with the header Hi it 
  most probably has the virus<BR>attached - I've been getting them all day at 
  work - however, they are<BR>not originating from where it seems that they 
  are.&nbsp; I very much doubt<BR>that Don has the virus on his 
  computer.<BR><BR>How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus 
  from<BR>addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only 
  coming<BR>into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the 
  other<BR>email addresses that run through the same account are 
  getting<BR>them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email 
  address<BR>belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a 
  website or<BR>two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another 
  email<BR>address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do 
  it.<BR><BR>This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't 
  be<BR>blamed for its 
  spread.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Jane<BR><BR>--------------------------------<BR>Jane 
  ONeill - Melbourne<BR><A 
  href="mailto:aussky at iprimus.com.au">aussky at iprimus.com.au</A><BR><BR>Australian 
  Sky &amp; Weather<BR><A 
  href="http://www.australianskynweather.com">http://www.australianskynweather.com</A><BR><BR>Australian 
  Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)<BR><A 
  href="http://www.severeweather.asn.au">http://www.severeweather.asn.au</A><BR><BR>***The 
  journey is the 
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<x-flowed>
Spyware and viruses are on the rise... its a way of life, especially for 
those who run the evidently insecure microsoft OS platforms... (windows, 95 
98 XP etc)

Best to keep up to date from a reputable online scanner, not a software 
package, but an authorised external scan.. (like panda software scanner) and 
then download any removal tools you need from the www.sarc.com site.. Easy 
as that !

Most of the real time virus 'prevention' software packages serve as nothing 
but a bother, and when they eventually expire or crash out, its a load of 
fun trying to remove all the old Dll's so your system can run smoothly 
again..

The bliss of the modern age, Ill stick to looking at the sky..  ;)


Jacob G.
www.stormcapital.id.au

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From: "David Simpson" <david at stormplanet.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hi virus stopper and its free !!!


I also endorse the Mailwasher, I have used it for a couple of years and
find it an essential tool.

David Simpson
www.stormplanet.com


-----Original Message-----
From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Bussy
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2004 6:50 PM
To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
Subject: aus-wx: Hi virus stopper and its free !!!

Have you updated your virus definitions? Don't mean to sound a smartie.

I use mailwasher. I have seen the "Hi" message many times and mailwasher
picks it up. Mailwasher stops all the crap Spam messages and grabs most
viruses, although I do run Norton as well.
www.mailwasher.net



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug's Electronics" <dougselectronics at iinet.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


> Yer ive got about 7 of these emails today.
> Iv'e got NAV 2003 but it seems that it didn't detect them and delelte
them.
> I got a message saying a have one of the W32 viruses and that NAV
won't
> delelte it.
> My system has been restarting all day and i wonder if its got
something to
> do with it
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jane ONeill" <aussky at iprimus.com.au>
> To: "Aussie-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:23 PM
> Subject: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'
>
>
> > Evening all,
> >
> > if you get an email with the header Hi it most probably has the
virus
> > attached - I've been getting them all day at work - however, they
are
> > not originating from where it seems that they are.  I very much
doubt
> > that Don has the virus on his computer.
> >
> > How do I know this? All day I have been getting this virus from
> > addresses that I have never sent addresses to and they are only
coming
> > into the address that is used on the website at work - none of the
other
> > email addresses that run through the same account are getting
> > them......and then, this afternoon I got an email from an email
address
> > belonging to me that I don't use but which happens to be on a
website or
> > two around the place - this email sent me the virus to another email
> > address that I do use - and I didn't lift a finger to do it.
> >
> > This is another of the 'clever viruses' and individuals shouldn't be
> > blamed for its spread.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jane
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > Jane ONeill - Melbourne
> > aussky at iprimus.com.au
> >
> > Australian Sky & Weather
> > http://www.australianskynweather.com
> >
> > Australian Severe Weather Assocn (ASWA)
> > http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >
> > ***The journey is the reward***
> > --------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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At 07:31 PM 19/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:

>I also endorse the Mailwasher, I have used it for a couple of years and
>find it an essential tool.

It only grabs a limited range of viruses.  For a full virus scanner, grab 
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From: "Bussy" <bussie at netc.net.au>
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Didn't mean to dis-lead anyone there. It's NOT a virus checker. It will stop
the common ones but not all. And only if you let it. You MUST have a virus
checker of your own. It will stop lots of Spam though.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" <vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Hi virus stopper and its free !!!


> At 07:31 PM 19/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:
>
> >I also endorse the Mailwasher, I have used it for a couple of years and
> >find it an essential tool.
>
> It only grabs a limited range of viruses.  For a full virus scanner, grab
> AVG Free Edition from http://www.grisoft.com
>
> 73 de VK3JED
> http://vkradio.com
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From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04


Paul

Please feel free to upload higher resolution images for desktop wallpapers.

Excellent work.

Simon

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[mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mossman
Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2004 12:03 PM
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Subject: aus-wx: Lightning Show Darwin 17 Jan 04

Hey everyone,


Couple of pictures from last nights lightning show.

http://www.crosstravel.com.au/17012004.htm

More to come! Enjoy. :)


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From: David Hart <dhart at theworld.com>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Re: the virus that says 'hi'


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004, Jane ONeill wrote:

> If you feel that your system has picked this virus up - this one is
> called Bagle-A, go to this site
> http://www.sophos.com.au/virusinfo/analyses/w32baglea.html for more
> information and a cleaning method.  This site is very reliable and a
> sizeable proportion of the computer types out there working with other
> people's systems and networks use it religiously.
>
> If you are concerned about any other viruses that might have got through
> your defences, this page will give you everything you need to know, and
> can use http://www.sophos.com.au/
>
> NOTE from Sophos: "Note that W32/Bagle-A will not activate if the system
> date is 28 January 2004 or later."
>
> Cheers,


Funny you should mention it, Jane, I work for Sophos now :-)


The good news is that Bagle is pretty easy to remove, even without
anti-virus software. The current variant, W32/Bagle-A:

1. Ends up in your System folder in a file called "bbeagle.exe".2. Shows up
in Task Manager under Windows under the name "bbeagle".

So, you can pop up Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del on Windows 98/Me, or
Ctrl-Shift-Esc on Windows 2000/XP) and look for a process called "bbeagle".
If you see it, shut it down ("End Task" on Windows 98/Me, or "End Process"
on Windows 2000/XP). Now use Windows Explorer to search for the file
"bbeagle.exe". If a copy of this turns up in your System folder, you can
delete it. (If you don't like deleting files just because someone told you
to, then you can rename it to "bbeagle.eee" instead. This means it won't
run again by itself.)

That being said, I still stongly urge that everyone has a good Anti-Virus
program on their computer (either Sophos or some other product), and keep
it up to date.

Anti-Spam products are not enough (and we make those too!) Many of the
viruses around today are network aware viruses that can scan around to
other computers on the internet to infect. These don't come in through
e-mail, so anti-spam wont help.

Online scanning is fine, but it doesnt give you constant in the
back-ground scanning for infected files. It will only only show you what
viruses have already infected your computer when you remember to scan it.


David Hart
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Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chasing...


<x-flowed>
For those interested, during the Darwin 'build up' (period of intense 
convective activity preceeding the monsoon arrival) congregated chasers from 
all over Australia..  The 7:30 report was there to follow us all around, and 
did a great job of making the sport of storm chasing appear safe, and 
responsible, which has been in the past, a concern of many (external 
perspectives).

The report was nicely done, a touch of humor, and some nice shots! and gives 
a great insight into the chaser routine...  It should encourage you to join 
your local club! ASC/ASWA or any others available!



The link is here

http://www.stormplanet.com/seven30rep.wmv

and thanks to David Simpson for hosting the file, which is 11mb...


Regards,
Jacob G.
www.stormcapital.id.au

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Hi virus stopper and its free !!!


I also use Mailwasher here for that very reason - Spam. Bounce it back to
the buggers I say!
Just watch the email address they use though. Sometimes they use your email
as a return address - you don't want to put yourself on your own blacklist
with out knowing about it ;)

Regs, Paul.
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Excellent - well done to the guys there & to The 7:30 Report... and I didn't
hear the "M" word once. Fantastic!  ;)

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Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chasing...


> For those interested, during the Darwin 'build up' (period of intense
> convective activity preceeding the monsoon arrival) congregated chasers
from
> all over Australia..  The 7:30 report was there to follow us all around,
and
> did a great job of making the sport of storm chasing appear safe, and
> responsible, which has been in the past, a concern of many (external
> perspectives).
>
> The report was nicely done, a touch of humor, and some nice shots! and
gives
> a great insight into the chaser routine...  It should encourage you to
join
> your local club! ASC/ASWA or any others available!
>
>
>
> The link is here
>
> http://www.stormplanet.com/seven30rep.wmv
>
> and thanks to David Simpson for hosting the file, which is 11mb...
>
>
> Regards,
> Jacob G.
> www.stormcapital.id.au
>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 06:30:26 +0800
From: "Phil Smith" <SmithP at ics.edu.hk>
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Thanks for posting it and thanks to the 7:30 Report for doing a great 
job.  The whole story was very positive and seemed to call out to the 
viewer: "This is great; come out and join us."
There was not the slightest hint of the "lunatic fringe" kind of 
reporting which one has come to associate with some reports out of the 
US.  Just told it like it was.
Thanks again.

Phil
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Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:55:00 +0930
Subject: aus-wx: Storm Chasing...

> For those interested, during the Darwin 'build up' (period of intense 
> convective activity preceeding the monsoon arrival) congregated chasers
> from 
> all over Australia..  The 7:30 report was there to follow us all
> around, and 
> did a great job of making the sport of storm chasing appear safe, and 
> responsible, which has been in the past, a concern of many (external 
> perspectives).
> 
> The report was nicely done, a touch of humor, and some nice shots! and
> gives 
> a great insight into the chaser routine...  It should encourage you to
> join 
> your local club! ASC/ASWA or any others available!
> 
> 
> 
> The link is here
> 
> http://www.stormplanet.com/seven30rep.wmv
> 
> and thanks to David Simpson for hosting the file, which is 11mb...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Jacob G.
> www.stormcapital.id.au
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:40:09 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Photogenic Rotating Storm - January 18


Hi everyone!

Had a nice storm on Sunday, was quite photogenic with the high humidity
and recent rain...

Report is here:

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html

Will try and add radar soon...was quite large on radar.

Happy storm hunting to all!
-- 
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From: "Simon Angell" <simon at canberra-wx.com>
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Awesome stuff AC!!!! and i agree with JD on the fact that SE QLD seems to
have many Guster/Shelfy storms - awesome!!!!

Simon

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> Hi everyone!
>
> Had a nice storm on Sunday, was quite photogenic with the high humidity
> and recent rain...
>
> Report is here:
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html
>
> Will try and add radar soon...was quite large on radar.
>
> Happy storm hunting to all!
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> 0417 759 304
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 15:44:01 +1100 (EST)
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Very nice thunderstorm and shelf cloud Anthony. There seems to be so many
in SE Qld. Well done.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

> Hi everyone!
>
> Had a nice storm on Sunday, was quite photogenic with the high humidity
> and recent rain...
>
> Report is here:
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html
>
> Will try and add radar soon...was quite large on radar.
>
> Happy storm hunting to all!
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:12:48 +1000
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Thanks guys!

Gustfronts and the "scuddy features" tend to be more so a function of
moisture than anything else...although they do occur from severity (ie
defined boundary of strong outflow winds/air ahead), but if there's
moisture you're more likely to get a nicer gustfront!

Just in regards to a few comments...I should have made this clear...I
called this a rotating storm not because of recent events, but I had no
idea what else to call it.  The storm went through two periods of
rotation...both around 10mins...so not really sustained rotation...hence
I didn't label it supercellular, as it clearly went through 2 prominent
stages.

AC

Simon Angell wrote:
> 
> Awesome stuff AC!!!! and i agree with JD on the fact that SE QLD seems to
> have many Guster/Shelfy storms - awesome!!!!
> 
> Simon
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Aus-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:40 AM
> Subject: aus-wx: Photogenic Rotating Storm - January 18
> 
> > Hi everyone!
> >
> > Had a nice storm on Sunday, was quite photogenic with the high humidity
> > and recent rain...
> >
> > Report is here:
> >
> > http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html
> >
> > Will try and add radar soon...was quite large on radar.
> >
> > Happy storm hunting to all!
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Excellent reports/pics! Believe it or not, I suffer from SDS, as it is
Wintertime here and we don't usually get storms or thunder/lightning with
our Winter rains. When we do get thunder/lightning,(this time of year) it is
usually a doozy of a cold front w/possible severe weather.
Have A Great One, Ya'll! Yours~~~David Powell
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> Hi everyone!
>
> Had a nice storm on Sunday, was quite photogenic with the high humidity
> and recent rain...
>
> Report is here:
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html
>
> Will try and add radar soon...was quite large on radar.
>
> Happy storm hunting to all!
> --
> Anthony Cornelius
> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
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> 0417 759 304
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From: "Dennis Cottle" <dencot1 at optusnet.com.au>
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Great to see a sensible report on storm chasers .I was a member of aswa
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be able to put a few faces and voices to what were had been to me only email
addresses . Thanks .

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> For those interested, during the Darwin 'build up' (period of intense
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Hey all

I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:

http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1


Cheers

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)


Talking about tornadoes...
I had a guy at work tell me today (first day back at work for the new year)
that while he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a
tornado (?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.
I asked him if it could have been straight line winds (& then explained to
him what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too narrow
for that.

Anybody hear anything about this?

I'll try & find out more tomorrow

Regs, Paul.
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>
> Hey all
>
> I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
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>
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>
>
> Cheers
>
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Woah!! thats awesome...  how big would that tornado have been??

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>
> Hey all
>
> I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
>
>
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>
>
> Cheers
>
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Keith,
I had a quick look, Congrats on a job well done.
Gavin SSWW Canberra

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Hi Robert,

Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path for a
tornado.

John.

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Hey all

I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:

http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&categor
y=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1


Cheers

--
Robert A. Goler

Meteorologisches Institut München
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> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path for a
> tornado.

Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
downburst.  Would be good if the picture was larger though!


R.

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Indeed, very hard to tell from this.  I wonder if we could get hold of the
source photo?

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> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path for
a
> tornado.

Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
downburst.  Would be good if the picture was larger though!


R.

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Was thinking the same. Looks like misty cloud to me. Maybe I'm just a
sceptic.
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> Hi Robert,
>
> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path for
a
> tornado.
>
> John.
>
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>
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> Hey all
>
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>
>
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> y=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1
>
>
> Cheers
>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air


Beat me to it and it is another example of the misconception of tornadoes
in this country. It is understandable though since the damage was extreme -
 similar to violent winds experienced in a violent microburst near Grafton
in the late 1990's November 1997 I think - Michael Thompson was there near
Yamba. Supercells are known for producing extreme straight line winds.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

>
>> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path
>> for a tornado.
>
> Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
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I agree. The shape of the area, and its apparent complete denudation seem
surprising. Why are the trees surrounding the denuded area white?

Laurier


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> > Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic
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> > tornado.
>
> Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)


Paul, any details such as date, time and place?

Laurier

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>
>
> Talking about tornadoes...
> I had a guy at work tell me today (first day back at work for the
> new year)
> that while he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a
> tornado (?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.
> I asked him if it could have been straight line winds (& then explained to
> him what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too narrow
> for that.
>
> Anybody hear anything about this?
>
> I'll try & find out more tomorrow
>
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
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>
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> Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air
>
>
> >
> > Hey all
> >
> > I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
> >
> >
> http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=loc
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>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
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Link I recieved about the "Mildura" tornado

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html

Thanks Robert  ;)

Regs, Paul.
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:21 PM
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> Paul, any details such as date, time and place?
>
> Laurier
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
> >
> >
> > Talking about tornadoes...
> > I had a guy at work tell me today (first day back at work for the
> > new year)
> > that while he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a
> > tornado (?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.
> > I asked him if it could have been straight line winds (& then explained
to
> > him what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too
narrow
> > for that.
> >
> > Anybody hear anything about this?
> >
> > I'll try & find out more tomorrow
> >
> > Regs, Paul.
> > (Stargazer)
> > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Goler" <robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de>
> > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 PM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hey all
> > >
> > > I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
> > >
> > >
> > http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=loc
> al&category=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --
> > Robert A. Goler
> >
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>im a little suspect of it being a 
tornado...espcially from this quote...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Local Elders 
Insurance manager Peter Wise said $1 million was a conservative estimate for the 
storm's damage bill.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"It (the tornado) was only 35km long and 5km 
wide but it just devastated everything in its way," he said.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and this... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Ken 
Dickenson said the severe thunderstorms predicted for the north-west might have 
developed into a tornado.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Firstly, a 5km wide damage track is extremly wide, 
more likely a microburst.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Secondly, Thunderstorms do not "develop" into 
tornado's.. this may be a typo seeing it is a BoM senior staff, tho i would 
think to get the real story you'll need to talk to BoM svr wx section, and not 
the forecast office. I suspect the reporter phoned the office and spoke to the 
duty forecaster at the time for some kind of quick confirmation to get the story 
into the paper.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my thoughts..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Stargazer" &lt;</FONT><A 
href="mailto:stargazer at picknowl.com.au"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>stargazer at picknowl.com.au</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado 
(?)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Link I recieved about the "Mildura" tornado<BR><BR></FONT><A 
href="http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Thanks Robert&nbsp; ;)<BR><BR>Regs, 
Paul.<BR>(Stargazer)<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer</FONT></A><BR><BR><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Laurier Williams" 
&lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:wbc at ozemail.com.au"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>wbc at ozemail.com.au</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;<BR>To: 
&lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<BR>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:21 PM<BR>Subject: RE: aus-wx: 
Mildura Tornado (?)<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Paul, any details such as date, time and 
place?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Laurier<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original 
Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: </FONT><A 
href="mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt; &gt; [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of 
Stargazer<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2004 12:53<BR>&gt; &gt; To: 
</FONT><A href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; 
&gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Talking about tornadoes...<BR>&gt; &gt; I had a guy at work tell me today 
(first day back at work for the<BR>&gt; &gt; new year)<BR>&gt; &gt; that while 
he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a<BR>&gt; &gt; tornado 
(?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.<BR>&gt; &gt; I asked him if it 
could have been straight line winds (&amp; then explained<BR>to<BR>&gt; &gt; him 
what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too<BR>narrow<BR>&gt; 
&gt; for that.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Anybody hear anything about 
this?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I'll try &amp; find out more tomorrow<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Regs, Paul.<BR>&gt; &gt; (Stargazer)<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; 
&gt; From: "Robert Goler" &lt;</FONT><A 
href="mailto:robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; To: &lt;</FONT><A 
href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey all<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
&gt; I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:<BR>&gt; 
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&amp;subclass=loc"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&amp;subclass=loc</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>&gt; 
al&amp;category=general%20news&amp;story_id=279696&amp;y=2004&amp;m=1<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Cheers<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; --<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Robert A. Goler<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Meteorologisches Institut 
München<BR>&gt; &gt; Theresienstr. 37<BR>&gt; &gt; D-80333 München<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387<BR>&gt; &gt; Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; </FONT><A href="http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/"><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>im a little suspect of it being a 
tornado...espcially from this quote...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Local Elders 
Insurance manager Peter Wise said $1 million was a conservative estimate for the 
storm's damage bill.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"It (the tornado) was only 35km long and 5km 
wide but it just devastated everything in its way," he said.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and this... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Ken 
Dickenson said the severe thunderstorms predicted for the north-west might have 
developed into a tornado.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Firstly, a 5km wide damage track is extremly wide, 
more likely a microburst.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Secondly, Thunderstorms do not "develop" into 
tornado's.. this may be a typo seeing it is a BoM senior staff, tho i would 
think to get the real story you'll need to talk to BoM svr wx section, and not 
the forecast office. I suspect the reporter phoned the office and spoke to the 
duty forecaster at the time for some kind of quick confirmation to get the story 
into the paper.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Just my thoughts..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Simon</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Stargazer" &lt;</FONT><A 
href="mailto:stargazer at picknowl.com.au"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>stargazer at picknowl.com.au</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado 
(?)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Link I recieved about the "Mildura" tornado<BR><BR></FONT><A 
href="http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%5E1702,00.html"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>Thanks Robert&nbsp; ;)<BR><BR>Regs, 
Paul.<BR>(Stargazer)<BR></FONT><A 
href="http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer</FONT></A><BR><BR><BR><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Laurier Williams" 
&lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:wbc at ozemail.com.au"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>wbc at ozemail.com.au</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;<BR>To: 
&lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<BR>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:21 PM<BR>Subject: RE: aus-wx: 
Mildura Tornado (?)<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Paul, any details such as date, time and 
place?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Laurier<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original 
Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: </FONT><A 
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</FONT><A href="mailto:aussie-weather at world.std.com"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt; 
&gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Talking about tornadoes...<BR>&gt; &gt; I had a guy at work tell me today 
(first day back at work for the<BR>&gt; &gt; new year)<BR>&gt; &gt; that while 
he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a<BR>&gt; &gt; tornado 
(?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.<BR>&gt; &gt; I asked him if it 
could have been straight line winds (&amp; then explained<BR>to<BR>&gt; &gt; him 
what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too<BR>narrow<BR>&gt; 
&gt; for that.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Anybody hear anything about 
this?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; I'll try &amp; find out more tomorrow<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Regs, Paul.<BR>&gt; &gt; (Stargazer)<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer</FONT></A><BR><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; 
&gt; From: "Robert Goler" &lt;</FONT><A 
href="mailto:robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de"><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
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size=2>aussie-weather at world.std.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Hey all<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
&gt; I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:<BR>&gt; 
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A 
href="http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&amp;subclass=loc"><FONT 
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&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Cheers<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; --<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Robert A. Goler<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Meteorologisches Institut 
München<BR>&gt; &gt; Theresienstr. 37<BR>&gt; &gt; D-80333 München<BR>&gt; &gt; 
Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387<BR>&gt; &gt; Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
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Jimmy I also agree with that .
Gavin
SSWW Canberra


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>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:26:47 +1100 (EST)
>
>Beat me to it and it is another example of the misconception of tornadoes
>in this country. It is understandable though since the damage was extreme -
>  similar to violent winds experienced in a violent microburst near Grafton
>in the late 1990's November 1997 I think - Michael Thompson was there near
>Yamba. Supercells are known for producing extreme straight line winds.
>
>Regards,
>Jimmy Deguara
>
> >
> >> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path
> >> for a tornado.
> >
> > Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh and just to add to my previous post, some of the 
descriptions provided also are becoming of a extreme wind/microburst event not a 
tornado... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>RSL caravan park manager Rhonda Hards said it 
was lucky no one was hurt during the mini-tornado and hailstorm lasting 30 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"The yacht club was demolished – it was like a 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Typical uninformed public hype, but not one 
description of a funnel like object, Only describes the wind and damage. 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If a&nbsp;few people were affected, then surely one 
of them would have seen "<EM>the cloud was touching the ground with things 
flying through tha air&nbsp;and there was a roaring noise from the intense 
winds" </EM></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>or "it was like something you see 
in doco's from US storms"</EM> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>not&nbsp; 
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<EM>She said three primary school groups staying 
in the lakeside caravan park hall watched as their canoes were swept away in the 
strong winds." </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"</FONT><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Link I recieved about the "Mildura" 
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&gt; Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; Talking about tornadoes...<BR>&gt; &gt; I had a guy at work tell me today 
(first day back at work for the<BR>&gt; &gt; new year)<BR>&gt; &gt; that while 
he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a<BR>&gt; &gt; tornado 
(?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.<BR>&gt; &gt; I asked him if it 
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Simon,
While tornadoes are more comon in Aus.  than most people realise, I agree 
with you but we really need more more info.
Did you enjoy last nights storms? We clocked a Gust at 69 km/hr  from the 
South at 7.19 pm as a cell stalled near Tharwa and moved to our south across 
the Banks area.I noted that the cells seemed to make a right turn as they 
came into the Valley off the Brindabellas  and instead of the Tharwa stom we 
had one that came across Tidbinbilla and the Kambah area.The second set of 
storms seemed more intense rainfall wise but not much wind.I went up the 
hill behind us and took some video after the first storm moved away towards 
the coast , just got to the house as the second storm moved across from the 
Kambah area.WE had a dead tree hit in the first stom on the hill-blew it to 
bits! A good flash and bang!The BOM Radar was very very useful!!
Gavin SSWW Gilmore


>From: "Simon Angell" <simon at canberra-wx.com>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 17:20:37 +1100
>
>im a little suspect of it being a tornado...espcially from this quote...
>Local Elders Insurance manager Peter Wise said $1 million was a 
>conservative estimate for the storm's damage bill.
>
>"It (the tornado) was only 35km long and 5km wide but it just devastated 
>everything in its way," he said.
>
>and this...
>Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Ken Dickenson said the severe 
>thunderstorms predicted for the north-west might have developed into a 
>tornado.
>
>Firstly, a 5km wide damage track is extremly wide, more likely a 
>microburst.
>
>Secondly, Thunderstorms do not "develop" into tornado's.. this may be a 
>typo seeing it is a BoM senior staff, tho i would think to get the real 
>story you'll need to talk to BoM svr wx section, and not the forecast 
>office. I suspect the reporter phoned the office and spoke to the duty 
>forecaster at the time for some kind of quick confirmation to get the story 
>into the paper.
>
>Just my thoughts..
>
>Simon
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:58 PM
>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
>
>
>Link I recieved about the "Mildura" tornado
>
>http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html
>
>Thanks Robert  ;)
>
>Regs, Paul.
>(Stargazer)
>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:21 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
>
>
> > Paul, any details such as date, time and place?
> >
> > Laurier
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Stargazer
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2004 12:53
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Talking about tornadoes...
> > > I had a guy at work tell me today (first day back at work for the
> > > new year)
> > > that while he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a
> > > tornado (?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.
> > > I asked him if it could have been straight line winds (& then 
>explained
>to
> > > him what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too
>narrow
> > > for that.
> > >
> > > Anybody hear anything about this?
> > >
> > > I'll try & find out more tomorrow
> > >
> > > Regs, Paul.
> > > (Stargazer)
> > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Goler" <robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey all
> > > >
> > > > I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=loc
> > al&category=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > --
> > > Robert A. Goler
> > >
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> > > D-80333 München
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> > > Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182
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>im a little suspect of it being a tornado...espcially from this quote...
>Local Elders Insurance manager Peter Wise said $1 million was a 
>conservative estimate for the storm's damage bill.
>
>"It (the tornado) was only 35km long and 5km wide but it just devastated 
>everything in its way," he said.
>
>and this...
>Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Ken Dickenson said the severe 
>thunderstorms predicted for the north-west might have developed into a 
>tornado.
>
>Firstly, a 5km wide damage track is extremly wide, more likely a 
>microburst.
>
>Secondly, Thunderstorms do not "develop" into tornado's.. this may be a 
>typo seeing it is a BoM senior staff, tho i would think to get the real 
>story you'll need to talk to BoM svr wx section, and not the forecast 
>office. I suspect the reporter phoned the office and spoke to the duty 
>forecaster at the time for some kind of quick confirmation to get the story 
>into the paper.
>
>Just my thoughts..
>
>Simon
>
>
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>Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
>
>
>Link I recieved about the "Mildura" tornado
>
>http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7923441%255E1702,00.html
>
>Thanks Robert  ;)
>
>Regs, Paul.
>(Stargazer)
>http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Laurier Williams" <wbc at ozemail.com.au>
>To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:21 PM
>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
>
>
> > Paul, any details such as date, time and place?
> >
> > Laurier
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com
> > > [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com]On Behalf Of Stargazer
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2004 12:53
> > > To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> > > Subject: Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado (?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Talking about tornadoes...
> > > I had a guy at work tell me today (first day back at work for the
> > > new year)
> > > that while he was in Mildura during the Christmas holidays there was a
> > > tornado (?) that destroyed three sheds outside of town.
> > > I asked him if it could have been straight line winds (& then 
>explained
>to
> > > him what that was) but he said that the area of damage was way too
>narrow
> > > for that.
> > >
> > > Anybody hear anything about this?
> > >
> > > I'll try & find out more tomorrow
> > >
> > > Regs, Paul.
> > > (Stargazer)
> > > http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robert Goler" <robert at meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de>
> > > To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:24 PM
> > > Subject: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey all
> > > >
> > > > I came across this article linked from "WeatherMatrix" website:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > http://stawell.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=loc
> > al&category=general%20news&story_id=279696&y=2004&m=1
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > --
> > > Robert A. Goler
> > >
> > > Meteorologisches Institut München
> > > Theresienstr. 37
> > > D-80333 München
> > > Tel.: +49 89 2180 4387
> > > Fax.: +49 89 2180 4182
> > >
> > > http://www.meteo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~robert/
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Simon, </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Could you restrain yourself from using all this profanity? 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"RSL caravan park manager Rhonda Hards said it 
was lucky no one was hurt during the</EM> <FONT 
size=3>*blank*</FONT><EM>-tornado and hailstorm lasting 30 
minutes."</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>lol&nbsp;&nbsp; ;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial>Regs, Paul.<BR>(Stargazer)<BR></FONT><A 
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  <A title=simon at canberra-wx.com href="mailto:simon at canberra-wx.com">Simon 
  Angell</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aussie-weather at world.std.com 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, 2004 4:59 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: aus-wx: Mildura Tornado 
  (?)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh and just to add to my previous post, some of 
  the descriptions provided also are becoming of a extreme wind/microburst event 
  not a tornado... </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>RSL caravan park manager Rhonda Hards said it 
  was lucky no one was hurt during the mini-tornado and hailstorm lasting 30 
  minutes.</EM></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><EM></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>"The yacht club was demolished – it was like 
  a cyclone had hit it," Ms Hards said.</EM></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Typical uninformed public hype, but not one 
  description of a funnel like object, Only describes the wind and damage. 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If a&nbsp;few people were affected, then surely 
  one of them would have seen "<EM>the cloud was touching the ground with things 
  flying through tha air&nbsp;and there was a roaring noise from the intense 
  winds" </EM></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>or "it was like something you 
  see in doco's from US storms"</EM> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>not&nbsp; 
  </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<EM>She said three primary school groups 
  staying in the lakeside caravan park hall watched as their canoes were swept 
  away in the strong winds." </EM></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>"</FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial size=2><EM>My husband was in the caravan park when it hit ... it 
  was pretty scary"</EM></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  PM</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>Simon, </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  size=3>*blank*</FONT><EM>-tornado and hailstorm lasting 30 
  minutes."</EM></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV><FONT 
  face=Arial></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial>lol&nbsp;&nbsp; ;)</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Oh and just to add to my previous post, some of 
    the descriptions provided also are becoming of a extreme wind/microburst 
    event not a tornado... </FONT></DIV>
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    it was lucky no one was hurt during the mini-tornado and hailstorm lasting 
    30 minutes.</EM></FONT></DIV>
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    </FONT></DIV>
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    one of them would have seen "<EM>the cloud was touching the ground with 
    things flying through tha air&nbsp;and there was a roaring noise from the 
    intense winds" </EM></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>or "it was like 
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At 09:06 PM 22/01/2004 +1300, you wrote:

>Anybody on this list heard of ice chunks falling off planes.  A 5kg lump 
>of ice smashed a hole clean through the roof of an Auckland residence 
>yesterday.  The suburb is not on the approach to the airport but could 
>this have been icing, falling off a plane.
>Coincidently the meteorological service mentioned the risk of large hail 
>in the forecast yesterday....but there was no hail.
>Weather was fair.

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Hi all

Have some pretty major storms occurring around Narromine, Cobar, Hermidale
areas. Alot of heavy rains have made reaching faults impossible. Many areas
without power for sometime. Storms reaching Dubbo now.

Again this afternoon Lake Carg, Condobolin getting battered by lightning,
rain and high winds. Many power lines reported down. ALot of work to be
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From: "Adam Mayo" <oyam at ihug.com.au>
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Mona Vale   21.20pm Thurs. 22.01.04

We have had the best display of lightning and thunder for a while here at
Mona Vale.  Certainly shook the house.  Also some heavy rain but not for too
long.  The trouble is the humidity has now increased and the temperature has
not fallen at all.

If you read this David, do you know what is happening at Wellington.  The
rest of our Caravan Club are gathering out there for the long Weekend.
Looks as though there is a rather large rain and or storm happening right
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:48:38 +1000
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I had some one email me with some flooding photos and reports from this
storm, one area received 125mm in 40mins!!!  I've uploaded the flooding
pics along with a radar loop at:

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/18_01_04ac.html

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:52:25 +1000
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I've uploaded a collection of images from showers/storms/sunsets etc
over the week when the monsoon low trekked south into Queensland...they
can be found at:

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/08-16_01_04ac.html

Most days had 1 or 2 nice images, but not enough for a full report so I
thought I'd roll all the days up into one report!
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: 5kg lump of ice from the sky


Yes, I am with Tony on this one.  I recall several times in the last 30 
years or so reading of huge chunks of ice falling from aircraft 
including one that was the size of a refrigerator and made matchwood of 
half of a house in the US many years ago.
If I get time during these holidays I might do a search and see if I can 
find something on the Internet about it, because I think I have read at 
least one report online sometime or other.

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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:40:28 +1100
Subject: Re: aus-wx: 5kg lump of ice from the sky

> At 09:06 PM 22/01/2004 +1300, you wrote:
> 
> >Anybody on this list heard of ice chunks falling off planes.  A 5kg
> lump 
> >of ice smashed a hole clean through the roof of an Auckland residence 
> >yesterday.  The suburb is not on the approach to the airport but could
> >this have been icing, falling off a plane.
> >Coincidently the meteorological service mentioned the risk of large
> hail 
> >in the forecast yesterday....but there was no hail.
> >Weather was fair.
> 
> I do recall a couple of similar incidents which were traced to 
> aircraft.  Can't recall the specifics though. :(
> 
> 73 de VK3JED
> http://vkradio.com
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: 5kg lump of ice from the sky


As promised I did a Google search using "ice falls from sky" which 
turned up 335,000 pages which I didn't have time to finish reading 
through!
The fifteen or so I did read discussed causes from belching pelicans to 
waterspouts to comets to meteorites.
Here are some references ranging from LOL to ROFL with some of the 
weirdest "scientific" explanations I have ever seen.  The first is the 
report of the incident which started this thread (you might need to 
paste the URL back together, depending on your browser).  If you are in 
need of a good laugh, check out some of these:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?
storyID=3544936&thesection=news&thesubsection=general
http://www.ijsklompen.net/divers.htm
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf043/sf043p17.htm
http://www.blather.net/shitegeist/000193.htm
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=1180
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/updates/2000/feb/m10-015.shtml
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03344/249503.stm
http://www.recordsearchlight.com/news/national/past/20031211nat022.shtml
http://www.research.umbc.edu/~frizzell/ice.html
http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/themindofjamesdonahue/id345.html
http://freespace.virgin.net/brian.goodwin/skyfalls.htm
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: 5kg lump of ice from the sky

> Yes, I am with Tony on this one.  I recall several times in the last 30
> years or so reading of huge chunks of ice falling from aircraft 
> including one that was the size of a refrigerator and made matchwood of
> half of a house in the US many years ago.
> If I get time during these holidays I might do a search and see if I
> can 
> find something on the Internet about it, because I think I have read at
> least one report online sometime or other.
> 
> Phil
> <><
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Tony Langdon, VK3JED" <vk3jed-1 at optusnet.com.au>
> To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:40:28 +1100
> Subject: Re: aus-wx: 5kg lump of ice from the sky
> 
> > At 09:06 PM 22/01/2004 +1300, you wrote:
> > 
> > >Anybody on this list heard of ice chunks falling off planes.  A 5kg
> > lump 
> > >of ice smashed a hole clean through the roof of an Auckland
> residence 
> > >yesterday.  The suburb is not on the approach to the airport but
> could
> > >this have been icing, falling off a plane.
> > >Coincidently the meteorological service mentioned the risk of large
> > hail 
> > >in the forecast yesterday....but there was no hail.
> > >Weather was fair.
> > 
> > I do recall a couple of similar incidents which were traced to 
> > aircraft.  Can't recall the specifics though. :(
> > 
> > 73 de VK3JED
> > http://vkradio.com
> > 
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Hello Everyone,
Tonight is another great night at Mona Vale,  NSW.  Although the storm is
passing by us to the west, the lightning display is exceptional once again.

Of course by the time the storm was looking at its best it was too dark for
the camera.  However there was a lovely greenish tinge towards Terry Hills
and St. Ives.

Perhaps just as good as living in Darwin.
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Subject: aus-wx: Maasive fire in Perths Hills


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A huge blaze is currently in perths Ne hills in the 
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Same here in the Hunter Valley.  Was a fantastic display last night, and
has not long started again tonight.

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Hello Everyone,
Tonight is another great night at Mona Vale,  NSW.  Although the storm
is passing by us to the west, the lightning display is exceptional once
again.

Of course by the time the storm was looking at its best it was too dark
for the camera.  However there was a lovely greenish tinge towards Terry
Hills and St. Ives.

Perhaps just as good as living in Darwin.
Judy Mayo

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From: "Deanne McCrea" <deanne at ennaeddesign.com.au>
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We had the most amazing lightning from yesterday's storm.

Things started to break loose around 4pm and it was after 6pm before it
quietened down. The amazing thing was the amount of lightning and the
duration. A couple of overhead ones were absolutely deafening and frightened
a horse next door enough to have it jump the fence and end up in our place.

Definitely better than anything I have seen before :) No photos,
unfortunately as we have so many trees it's hard to get a shot and I wasn't
about to venture out into open space.

One other awesome thing was we had one episode of pulsing lightning. It
cracked as normal and then hung in the sky and you could see it clearly
pulsing. The subsequent thunder sounded like a machine gun riccocheting. I
was leaning against the door jam and could feel it vibrating the house.

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air


Looks a lot like an Illawarra Escarpment Fognado, you back the next day and
through some process the trees have grown back. Science has still to explain
this interesting phenomenon. Further to the subject a renowned Bunyip, Yowie
and Tasmania tiger hunter has taken up the case of the Fognado. " This is
another case where science ridicules but cannot explain, for example every
winter several snowfalls are observed in Sydney by ordinary people, yet due
to so called 'lack of scientific evidence' these genuine claims are
discounted ".


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> Jimmy I also agree with that .
> Gavin
> SSWW Canberra
>
>
> >From: <jdeguara at australiasevereweather.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> >Subject: RE: aus-wx: Australian Tornado Damage from the air
> >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:26:47 +1100 (EST)
> >
> >Beat me to it and it is another example of the misconception of tornadoes
> >in this country. It is understandable though since the damage was
extreme -
> >  similar to violent winds experienced in a violent microburst near
Grafton
> >in the late 1990's November 1997 I think - Michael Thompson was there
near
> >Yamba. Supercells are known for producing extreme straight line winds.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jimmy Deguara
> >
> > >
> > >> Can't help but observe that it is a very uncharacteristic damage path
> > >> for a tornado.
> > >
> > > Actually, I was thinking the same thing....probably more likely a
> > > downburst.  Would be good if the picture was larger though!
> > >
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Hi Deanne,

Excellent to see that you experienced and enjoyed this lightning fest. It
certainly looks as though there will be more storms in the forseeable
future.
We actually were heading to the squall line on the southern tablelands and
was distracted (luckily) by a cell that suddenyl developed rapidly to the
southwest of Camden. It was hard to make out but the side anvil was
indicative of a powerful updraught pulse.

Thsi cell produced some impressive structure with a "vault region" or
perhaps a cavity. I will check the video again today to try and work out
whether there was some rotation. Hard to tell from the angle I was at but
it could well have been the cavity of a shelf cloud. There were some
impressive and pulsating bolts. It is amazing what happens when you get
high CAPE environments and at least moderate wind shear. The storms also
went high up yesterday.

We experienced more storms on the mtns after this and almost s..t
ourselves when a stray powerful bolt hit a tree within a few hundred
metres away!! It made a loud scary shot gun noise.  We then headed east of
the system to escape the rain though the rain followed us. Some excellent
anvil crawlers as well as some internal close cg's inside the core as it
passed over. Hail was reported though for Matt and I personally perhaps up
to a centimetre. It was excellent to watch a 360 view of lightning from
the top of Rooty Hill. Don't really have time to post images at the
moment - too much video editing backlog at this stage.

Regards,

Jimmy Deguara

> We had the most amazing lightning from yesterday's storm.
>
> Things started to break loose around 4pm and it was after 6pm before it
> quietened down. The amazing thing was the amount of lightning and the
> duration. A couple of overhead ones were absolutely deafening and
> frightened a horse next door enough to have it jump the fence and end
> up in our place.
>
> Definitely better than anything I have seen before :) No photos,
> unfortunately as we have so many trees it's hard to get a shot and I
> wasn't about to venture out into open space.
>
> One other awesome thing was we had one episode of pulsing lightning. It
> cracked as normal and then hung in the sky and you could see it clearly
> pulsing. The subsequent thunder sounded like a machine gun
> riccocheting. I was leaning against the door jam and could feel it
> vibrating the house.
>
> Deanne
> Colo Vale - Southern Highlands NSW 640m ASL
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From: "Phill" <pbones at datafast.net.au>
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http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/23jan04/struc01.jpg <-- bit hard to
see but going towards the parramatta area there was some interesting
structure. Awesome lightning though, many cg's, anvil crawlers and so forth.
I ended up chasing towards mona vale area (Bilgola head and also a headland
near Mona Vale hospital) and watching some of the lightning off the coast..
was quite nice!!

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> Hi Deanne,
>
> Excellent to see that you experienced and enjoyed this lightning fest. It
> certainly looks as though there will be more storms in the forseeable
> future.
> We actually were heading to the squall line on the southern tablelands and
> was distracted (luckily) by a cell that suddenyl developed rapidly to the
> southwest of Camden. It was hard to make out but the side anvil was
> indicative of a powerful updraught pulse.
>
> Thsi cell produced some impressive structure with a "vault region" or
> perhaps a cavity. I will check the video again today to try and work out
> whether there was some rotation. Hard to tell from the angle I was at but
> it could well have been the cavity of a shelf cloud. There were some
> impressive and pulsating bolts. It is amazing what happens when you get
> high CAPE environments and at least moderate wind shear. The storms also
> went high up yesterday.
>
> We experienced more storms on the mtns after this and almost s..t
> ourselves when a stray powerful bolt hit a tree within a few hundred
> metres away!! It made a loud scary shot gun noise.  We then headed east of
> the system to escape the rain though the rain followed us. Some excellent
> anvil crawlers as well as some internal close cg's inside the core as it
> passed over. Hail was reported though for Matt and I personally perhaps up
> to a centimetre. It was excellent to watch a 360 view of lightning from
> the top of Rooty Hill. Don't really have time to post images at the
> moment - too much video editing backlog at this stage.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> > We had the most amazing lightning from yesterday's storm.
> >
> > Things started to break loose around 4pm and it was after 6pm before it
> > quietened down. The amazing thing was the amount of lightning and the
> > duration. A couple of overhead ones were absolutely deafening and
> > frightened a horse next door enough to have it jump the fence and end
> > up in our place.
> >
> > Definitely better than anything I have seen before :) No photos,
> > unfortunately as we have so many trees it's hard to get a shot and I
> > wasn't about to venture out into open space.
> >
> > One other awesome thing was we had one episode of pulsing lightning. It
> > cracked as normal and then hung in the sky and you could see it clearly
> > pulsing. The subsequent thunder sounded like a machine gun
> > riccocheting. I was leaning against the door jam and could feel it
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> > Deanne
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It appears that we will have another entertaining evening tonight.
Phil if you come over to the coast again, also look at Mona Vale headland,
on Hillcrest St Mona Vale. [A torch may be handy, we take one]  If we are
out there we will be in a dark green Outback with ASWA stickers on the back
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Peter,
You are missing out at home right now.  There has been constant thunder from
the direction of Beacon Hill for almost an hour.  The best of the
afternoon's storms went way south of Mona Vale.

Today's storms are nothing like last night.  Although it was too dark for
the camera, the storm structure was magnificent as it came over the hills
behind Mona Vale.  Today we went to Brookvale and noticed signs that drains
had overflowed around Collaroy.  Lots of rubbish had been scooped out of
several and left piled up on the footpath.  We only had 5mm of rain to 9am
today, I would be interested to know if you or anyone else can tell me what
happened between Mona Vale and Manly.

This afternoon we were at Mona Vale near the hospital, then later at Mona
Vale Headland.  From the park near the hospital we counted five separate
storms with anvil like clouds.

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Hey all..

Some nice activity here over the past few days, some nice rotation as well.. 
(there is the 'r' word again ;) )  these pictures were taken a few minutes 
apart, I wasnt able to get time lapse (although most have seen time lapse of 
rotating storms up here...)


Was hoping for a waterspout/tornado, as they are common from this type of 
cell up here (esp with the level of rotation..) ... not this time.. but 
conditions look set to continue... Ill keep my camera on !!!



http://bsch.au.com/jacob/january/darwinstrm2.JPG

a few mins later....

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Judy,
Up here on central coast right now. I thought last night was big in Beacon H ill but in the last 20 mins here weve had multiple CGs all around us. It really went off. Were heading up to Heddon Greta tonight to the drive in to see the Lord of the Rings Return of the King .... heres hoping for the return of the supercell and some nightime skyshows too.

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At 02:01 p.m. 24/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:
>It appears that we will have another entertaining evening tonight.
>Phil if you come over to the coast again, also look at Mona Vale headland,
>on Hillcrest St Mona Vale. [A torch may be handy, we take one]  If we are
>out there we will be in a dark green Outback with ASWA stickers on the back
>window.  Come and talk to us if we are around.
>Actually going up there right now.
>Judy Mayo.


Sounds as though you are enjoying a great lightning show
Sattelite pics from here look very good here from NZ
Hope some of those CB's drift east over the SI of NZ in the coming week!!?

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Hi all,

The combination of approaching storms and a setting sun made for some great
photo opportunities around Brisbane this evening:
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The storm line was very lightning active, resulting in some 2 hours of
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:36:48 +1000
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Subject: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04


Hi Everyone!

Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens of
trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we tried
cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel letterbox
has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most other
people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't at
home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as the
line moved up!

 http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg


http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.jpg

Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...

http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html

Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD should do
well again, but shear looks better further S.
-- 
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From: "Chris Daley" <jindivik at optusnet.com.au>
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Great photo's Anthony.

A mate of mine up in Ipswich rang me right in the middle of the storms that
went through there, just listening over the phone I could tell the wind was
fierce.

Look forward to reading your report.

Chris

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Subject: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04


> Hi Everyone!
>
> Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
> hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens of
> trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we tried
> cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel letterbox
> has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most other
> people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't at
> home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as the
> line moved up!
>
>  http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg
>
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.jpg
>
> Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...
>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html
>
> Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD should do
> well again, but shear looks better further S.
> -- 
> Anthony Cornelius
> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> 0417 759 304
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I have never seen a tornado in a warning before until now, they must seem
very confident or have a damn reliable source to put it in an STW..

Go QLD!
*Dale*






TOP PRIORITY - Updated
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
at 4:30pm EST on Sunday the 25th of January 2004

For the Southeast Coast District.

Severe Thunderstorms are developing over the district

A severe thunderstorm with possible destructive wind squalls, large hail and
heavy rain  in the Boonah to Ipswich area was moving eastnortheast at 35
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on 25/01/2004 11:52, Chris Daley at jindivik at optusnet.com.au wrote:

> Great photo's Anthony.
> 
> A mate of mine up in Ipswich rang me right in the middle of the storms that
> went through there, just listening over the phone I could tell the wind was
> fierce.
> 
> Look forward to reading your report.
> 
> Chris
> 
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> 
> 
>> Hi Everyone!
>> 
>> Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
>> hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens of
>> trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we tried
>> cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel letterbox
>> has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most other
>> people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't at
>> home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as the
>> line moved up!
>> 
>> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.jpg
>> 
>> Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...
>> 
>> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html
>> 
>> Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD should do
>> well again, but shear looks better further S.
>> -- 
>> Anthony Cornelius
>> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
>> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
>> 0417 759 304
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BoM issued a number of them in the late 1970's and 1980's including one for 
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Hi all.
Looks like Tamworth should get some sought of award for weather, another
79mm today! the country and western fans must be scratching their heads and
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We had 3 storms roll by earlier today then in the arvo we had a string of
storms slide over us from west to east at 4PM

Dark storm front with rippled cloud.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_02.jpg

Blue storm front from the west.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_02.jpg

Another green storm front from the south.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_02.jpg

Webcam view of the darkening storm front.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/122025thJan.JPG


Photos from behind the middday storm.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_02.jpg

View of the 4pm storm front
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/4pm.jpg

The radar looks goof for about 4 storms this arvo.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/Moree_Radar_4-30PM_Radar.gif

Large panorama of the 9am front.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_large_panorama.jpg

We have been so lucky with storms over the last month. We have had almost
300mm.

Simon

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Hi all.
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I have seen references in this list over the years to tornado warnings 
from BoM and I know of many more from previous years going way back.  
Maybe as much as once or twice in a year.
It seems to me that whenever BoM receives a reliable report of a 
tornado, they mention it in their warnings.
That makes sense to me; it's part of their job.
The fact is that most tornados have been and gone before the BoM hears 
about them, so then of course, if the tornado no longer exists and the 
storm is weakening, to issue a tornado warning would be like shutting 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Small <x4y2z5c1v4b7x at overflow.net.au>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:16:41 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04 
(and tornado? 25th)

> I have never seen a tornado in a warning before until now, they must
> seem
> very confident or have a damn reliable source to put it in an STW..
> 
> Go QLD!
> *Dale*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TOP PRIORITY - Updated
> SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
> Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
> at 4:30pm EST on Sunday the 25th of January 2004
> 
> For the Southeast Coast District.
> 
> Severe Thunderstorms are developing over the district
> 
> A severe thunderstorm with possible destructive wind squalls, large
> hail and
> heavy rain  in the Boonah to Ipswich area was moving eastnortheast at
> 35
> km/hr.
> This thunderstorm will affect the Ipswich area, Southern Brisbane and
> Moreton
> Bay in the next 1 to 2 hours.
> A tornado has been reported in the Bundamba area.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 25/01/2004 11:52, Chris Daley at jindivik at optusnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> > Great photo's Anthony.
> > 
> > A mate of mine up in Ipswich rang me right in the middle of the
> storms that
> > went through there, just listening over the phone I could tell the
> wind was
> > fierce.
> > 
> > Look forward to reading your report.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> > To: "Aus-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:36 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04
> > 
> > 
> >> Hi Everyone!
> >> 
> >> Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
> >> hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens
> of
> >> trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we
> tried
> >> cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel
> letterbox
> >> has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most
> other
> >> people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't
> at
> >> home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as
> the
> >> line moved up!
> >> 
> >> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.j
> pg
> >> 
> >> Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...
> >> 
> >> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html
> >> 
> >> Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD
> should do
> >> well again, but shear looks better further S.
> >> -- 
> >> Anthony Cornelius
> >> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> >> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> >> 0417 759 304
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Great report Anthony, and, as usual, excellent photos!

Thanks,

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Cornelius <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
To: Aus-wx <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:36:48 +1000
Subject: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04

> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
> hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens of
> trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we tried
> cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel letterbox
> has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most other
> people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't at
> home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as the
> line moved up!
> 
>  http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg
> 
> 
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.j
> pg
> 
> Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...
> 
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html
> 
> Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD should
> do
> well again, but shear looks better further S.
> -- 
> Anthony Cornelius
> President & Queensland Coordinator of the 
> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> 0417 759 304
> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04 (andtornado? 25th)


Hmmm,

Having watched this storm from a vantage point this afternoon as it
approached Bundamba, I can certainly say that while it was a massive storm,
(1) it was not a Supercell and (2) no tornado was observed by me.  Now,
yesterday may have been another story.  An awful lot of damage was done in a
line from Bumdamba to Karallee, but this occurred pretty much after dark, so
last nights report of a 'mini' tornado in this area may be credible, but is
at least questionable.  How that translated to a warning for the same suburb
today is something of a mystery!

As for today's storm, a classic guster, here is a snap of the storm less
than 5 minutes out from Bundamba looking in that general direction...
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104j.jpg

The photo is taken looking SSW from Barne's Hill Mt. Crosby in the general
direction of Ipswich (Bundamba is a suburb of Ipswich to the far left in the
photo).  There was observable horizontal sheer along the gust front with
foreground cloud moving right to left correponding to the NNE inflow, while
the scud just in front of the rain curtain was moving left to right.  This
could have been easily mistaken for rotation, but in fact no.

More pic's to follow!

John.
>snip

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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04
(andtornado? 25th)


I have seen references in this list over the years to tornado warnings
from BoM and I know of many more from previous years going way back.
Maybe as much as once or twice in a year.
It seems to me that whenever BoM receives a reliable report of a
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That makes sense to me; it's part of their job.
The fact is that most tornados have been and gone before the BoM hears
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Phil
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Small <x4y2z5c1v4b7x at overflow.net.au>
To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:16:41 +1000
Subject: Re: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04
(and tornado? 25th)

> I have never seen a tornado in a warning before until now, they must
> seem
> very confident or have a damn reliable source to put it in an STW..
>
> Go QLD!
> *Dale*
>
>
>
>
>
>
> TOP PRIORITY - Updated
> SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
> Issued by the Bureau of Meteorology, Brisbane
> at 4:30pm EST on Sunday the 25th of January 2004
>
> For the Southeast Coast District.
>
> Severe Thunderstorms are developing over the district
>
> A severe thunderstorm with possible destructive wind squalls, large
> hail and
> heavy rain  in the Boonah to Ipswich area was moving eastnortheast at
> 35
> km/hr.
> This thunderstorm will affect the Ipswich area, Southern Brisbane and
> Moreton
> Bay in the next 1 to 2 hours.
> A tornado has been reported in the Bundamba area.
>
>
>
>
> on 25/01/2004 11:52, Chris Daley at jindivik at optusnet.com.au wrote:
>
> > Great photo's Anthony.
> >
> > A mate of mine up in Ipswich rang me right in the middle of the
> storms that
> > went through there, just listening over the phone I could tell the
> wind was
> > fierce.
> >
> > Look forward to reading your report.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Cornelius" <cyclonewx at bigpond.com>
> > To: "Aus-wx" <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:36 AM
> > Subject: aus-wx: Spectacular Gustfront & Storms in SE QLD, 24/01/04
> >
> >
> >> Hi Everyone!
> >>
> >> Wow, awesome storms in SE QLD yesterday!!!  My place copped golfball
> >> hail and winds what appears to be around the 130km/h mark...dozens
> of
> >> trees on our property have been snapped in half or uprooted, we
> tried
> >> cleaning some of it up but it'll take days.  Even our steel
> letterbox
> >> has hail dents!  Probably should consider ourselves lucky as most
> other
> >> people seem to have lost theirs (and can't find it lol).  I wasn't
> at
> >> home at the time...but got an awesome gustfront on Moreton Bay as
> the
> >> line moved up!
> >>
> >> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24010408.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/240104/24-01-04-pan3.j
> pg
> >>
> >> Full report here, but I'll add some damage photos later...
> >>
> >> http://www.downunderchase.com/stormchasing/03-04/24_01_04ac.html
> >>
> >> Today looks good again!  I might target the NR region...SE QLD
> should do
> >> well again, but shear looks better further S.
> >> --
> >> Anthony Cornelius
> >> President & Queensland Coordinator of the
> >> Australian Severe Weather Association (ASWA)
> >> 0417 759 304
> >> http://www.severeweather.asn.au
> >>
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi all,

Today's storm at Mt. Crosby was the complete antithesis of yesterday.
Yesterday we had a lot of wind, a fantastic strobe light show but very few
CG's and only 13mm of rain (However I should mention that 5km away, Bundamba
scored 83mm, and 3km at Riverview Dve, Karallee, every house in the street
suffered structural damage from falling trees).  Today we got very little
wind, untold CG's everywhere and a drenching of 56mm of rain in less than 30
mins.  Today's power outage was only 10 mins compared to 6 hours yesterday.

For those of you with patience and interest, the following series records
the build up and organisation of the storm into a classic guster, passage
and after effect...

Build up, showing convection ahead of the main storm, located somewhere near
Cunningham's Gap:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104a.jpg

Flanking line to the NW and Anvil:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104b.jpg

Starting to get organised:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104c.jpg

And that tell tale green tinge indicating hail appears:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104d.jpg

View looking up showing midlevel jet inflow to the storm, always a sign of
severity:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104e.jpg

Banding along the gust front develops, with well defined precip curtain:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104f.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104g.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104h.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104i.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104j.jpg

Leading North end of gustfront (shelf cloud) approaching Mt. Crosby:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104k.jpg

A curious notch in the banding:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104l.jpg

Under the shelf cloud in the updraft region:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104m.jpg

Shelf cloud passes over my backyard:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104n.jpg

The drenching (I must clean the gutters out, LOL):
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104o.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104p.jpg

Turbulent cloud base at the rear of the storm:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104q.jpg

This wheelbarrow was empty before the storm:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104r.jpg

Enjoy
John.


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Shelf cloud passes over my backyard:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104n.jpg

Hmm ... nice looking back yard ya got there John ...
... storm's not looking too bad either ;)

Great photos! Thanks for that (can you send some of it down SA's way please,
we're a little parched down here atm).
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From: "Rhett Blanch" <rhettaj at ozemail.com.au>
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Call me paranoid but I reckon these storms happened because I didn't go home
for the festival for only about the 3rd time in 30 years!

Regards
Rhett

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Subject: Tamworth Storm Piccies - RE: aus-wx: Tamworth again!!.


We had 3 storms roll by earlier today then in the arvo we had a string of
storms slide over us from west to east at 4PM

Dark storm front with rippled cloud.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_02.jpg

Blue storm front from the west.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_02.jpg

Another green storm front from the south.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_02.jpg

Webcam view of the darkening storm front.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/122025thJan.JPG


Photos from behind the middday storm.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_01.jpg
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_02.jpg

View of the 4pm storm front
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/4pm.jpg

The radar looks goof for about 4 storms this arvo.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/Moree_Radar_4-30PM_Radar.gif

Large panorama of the 9am front.
 http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_large_panorama.jpg

We have been so lucky with storms over the last month. We have had almost
300mm.

Simon

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Hi all.
Looks like Tamworth should get some sought of award for weather, another
79mm today! the country and western fans must be scratching their heads and
it looks as if they will need all the 10 gallon hats they can find to keep
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Thanks John for another set of great photos.
Keep 'em coming all you guys who are getting these storms!

Meanwhile, here in Hong Kong, the Cold Weather Warning has been hoisted 
now for the longest period ever.  The previous record of 163 hours was 
set when the warning was hoisted at 16:30 on 24th February 2000 and not 
lowered until 11:30 on 2nd March 2000.  The warning currently in effect 
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:33:07 +1000
Subject: RE: aus-wx: Another day, another guster (25/01/04)

> Hi all,
> 
> Today's storm at Mt. Crosby was the complete antithesis of yesterday.
> Yesterday we had a lot of wind, a fantastic strobe light show but very
> few
> CG's and only 13mm of rain (However I should mention that 5km away,
> Bundamba
> scored 83mm, and 3km at Riverview Dve, Karallee, every house in the
> street
> suffered structural damage from falling trees).  Today we got very
> little
> wind, untold CG's everywhere and a drenching of 56mm of rain in less
> than 30
> mins.  Today's power outage was only 10 mins compared to 6 hours
> yesterday.
> 
> For those of you with patience and interest, the following series
> records
> the build up and organisation of the storm into a classic guster,
> passage
> and after effect...
> 
> Build up, showing convection ahead of the main storm, located somewhere
> near
> Cunningham's Gap:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104a.jpg
> 
> Flanking line to the NW and Anvil:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104b.jpg
> 
> Starting to get organised:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104c.jpg
> 
> And that tell tale green tinge indicating hail appears:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104d.jpg
> 
> View looking up showing midlevel jet inflow to the storm, always a sign
> of
> severity:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104e.jpg
> 
> Banding along the gust front develops, with well defined precip
> curtain:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104f.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104g.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104h.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104i.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104j.jpg
> 
> Leading North end of gustfront (shelf cloud) approaching Mt. Crosby:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104k.jpg
> 
> A curious notch in the banding:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104l.jpg
> 
> Under the shelf cloud in the updraft region:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104m.jpg
> 
> Shelf cloud passes over my backyard:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104n.jpg
> 
> The drenching (I must clean the gutters out, LOL):
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104o.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104p.jpg
> 
> Turbulent cloud base at the rear of the storm:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104q.jpg
> 
> This wheelbarrow was empty before the storm:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104r.jpg
> 
> Enjoy
> John.
> 
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Thanks, Simon for an excellent bunch of pictures.  Tamworth area still 
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:01:12 +1100
Subject: Tamworth Storm Piccies - RE: aus-wx: Tamworth again!!.

> We had 3 storms roll by earlier today then in the arvo we had a string
> of
> storms slide over us from west to east at 4PM
> 
> Dark storm front with rippled cloud.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_02.jpg
> 
> Blue storm front from the west.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_02.jpg
> 
> Another green storm front from the south.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_02.jpg
> 
> Webcam view of the darkening storm front.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/122025thJan.JPG
> 
> 
> Photos from behind the middday storm.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_02.jpg
> 
> View of the 4pm storm front
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/4pm.jpg
> 
> The radar looks goof for about 4 storms this arvo.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/Moree_Radar_4-30PM_Radar
> .gif
> 
> Large panorama of the 9am front.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_large_panorama.jpg
> 
> We have been so lucky with storms over the last month. We have had
> almost
> 300mm.
> 
> Simon
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:aussie-weather-approval at world.std.com] On Behalf Of Clyve
> Herbert
> Sent: Sunday, 25 January 2004 10:56 PM
> To: aussie weather
> Subject: aus-wx: Tamworth again!!.
> 
> Hi all.
> Looks like Tamworth should get some sought of award for weather,
> another
> 79mm today! the country and western fans must be scratching their heads
> and
> it looks as if they will need all the 10 gallon hats they can find to
> keep
> this much rain off their heads...regards Clyve H.
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A couple of incidents during the storms in Australia over the past few days.

Lightning strikes police car
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8481620%5E1702,00.html

South-east Queensland man struck by lightning
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1031346.htm


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Great pictures Simon, it makes we wish that we had a lovely wide sky view
from our house.  How I miss the opportunities of my childhood days at
Doonside, with views all the way to the Blue Mts.
Judy Mayo.
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Subject: Tamworth Storm Piccies - RE: aus-wx: Tamworth again!!.


> We had 3 storms roll by earlier today then in the arvo we had a string of
> storms slide over us from west to east at 4PM
>
> Dark storm front with rippled cloud.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_02.jpg
>
> Blue storm front from the west.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/10am_02.jpg
>
> Another green storm front from the south.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/11am_02.jpg
>
> Webcam view of the darkening storm front.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/122025thJan.JPG
>
>
> Photos from behind the middday storm.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_01.jpg
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/3pm_02.jpg
>
> View of the 4pm storm front
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/4pm.jpg
>
> The radar looks goof for about 4 storms this arvo.
>
http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/Moree_Radar_4-30PM_Radar.gif
>
> Large panorama of the 9am front.
>  http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/25th/9am_large_panorama.jpg
>
> We have been so lucky with storms over the last month. We have had almost
> 300mm.
>
> Simon
>
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> Subject: aus-wx: Tamworth again!!.
>
> Hi all.
> Looks like Tamworth should get some sought of award for weather, another
> 79mm today! the country and western fans must be scratching their heads
and
> it looks as if they will need all the 10 gallon hats they can find to keep
> this much rain off their heads...regards Clyve H.
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The photos are great John.  Thanks for sharing them with us all.
Judy Mayo
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> Hi all,
>
> Today's storm at Mt. Crosby was the complete antithesis of yesterday.
> Yesterday we had a lot of wind, a fantastic strobe light show but very few
> CG's and only 13mm of rain (However I should mention that 5km away,
Bundamba
> scored 83mm, and 3km at Riverview Dve, Karallee, every house in the street
> suffered structural damage from falling trees).  Today we got very little
> wind, untold CG's everywhere and a drenching of 56mm of rain in less than
30
> mins.  Today's power outage was only 10 mins compared to 6 hours
yesterday.
>
> For those of you with patience and interest, the following series records
> the build up and organisation of the storm into a classic guster, passage
> and after effect...
>
> Build up, showing convection ahead of the main storm, located somewhere
near
> Cunningham's Gap:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104a.jpg
>
> Flanking line to the NW and Anvil:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104b.jpg
>
> Starting to get organised:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104c.jpg
>
> And that tell tale green tinge indicating hail appears:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104d.jpg
>
> View looking up showing midlevel jet inflow to the storm, always a sign of
> severity:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104e.jpg
>
> Banding along the gust front develops, with well defined precip curtain:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104f.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104g.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104h.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104i.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104j.jpg
>
> Leading North end of gustfront (shelf cloud) approaching Mt. Crosby:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104k.jpg
>
> A curious notch in the banding:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104l.jpg
>
> Under the shelf cloud in the updraft region:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104m.jpg
>
> Shelf cloud passes over my backyard:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104n.jpg
>
> The drenching (I must clean the gutters out, LOL):
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104o.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104p.jpg
>
> Turbulent cloud base at the rear of the storm:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104q.jpg
>
> This wheelbarrow was empty before the storm:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/25Jan04/250104r.jpg
>
> Enjoy
> John.
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Cant Find the linka at the moment, but recent lightning has also destroyed a 
home in Palmerston, Darwins Southern Suburbs (20km from city)

Lightning bolt wrecks home
By PAUL DYER
23jan04
A family were evacuated and their home severely damaged after a bolt of 
lightning struck the roof yesterday.

The strike hit the home's solar hot water system, causing it to explode and 
flood the house.

Water began pouring through the light fittings, before the ceiling collapsed 
under the weight and crashed to the floor.

Gordon Traill, a soldier at Palmerston's Robertson Barracks, was ironing 
when the lightning bolt hit at about 5.30am.

``There was a huge bang _ I knew it was lightning when I heard it,'' he 
said.

His wife, Shona, was woken by the noise.

``I heard this huge crack and I jumped up in bed,'' she said.

``My heart was racing _ I thought we had been set upon by bombs. I knew it 
wasn't thunder but I didn't know what it was _ I've never heard lightning 
strike anywhere before.''

Neighbour Sam Short, 25, saw the flash as the lightning struck the roof of 
the house in the Palmerston suburb of Durack.

``I happened to be standing outside at the time,'' Mr Short said.

``I was looking in that direction _ it was just a bright flash of light and 
then there were sparks going everywhere off the top of the house.

``And, simultaneously, there was a huge bang _ it was like a tank gun going 
off.''

The kitchen was flooded and many of the home's appliances were soaked.

Ms Traill said: ``We started trying to mop up with towels but it was just so 
much water we couldn't keep up with it.''

The Traill family had only moved into the Defence Housing Authority property 
last week _ many of their belongings were still in boxes.

The DHA evacuated them from the flooded house yesterday morning for safety 
reasons. The power and water has been disconnected. The Traills have been 
relocated to temporary accommodation while the damage is repaired.

Ms Traill said it was lucky their two children _ Melanie, 12, and 
nine-year-old Alice _ were not under the section of roof when it fell.

``Luckily, the cat was the only one who was close by at the time,'' she 
said.

``But it went scurrying like an ice- skater across the wet tiles.''

Surprisingly, the family is upbeat about the situation.

Originally from Victoria, the Top End's spectacular electrical storms were 
considered a drawcard.

``I think it is wonderful _ nothing like this has ever happened to us,'' Ms 
Traill said.

``And I love weather _ I couldn't wait to get up here to see the storms.

``Now we have certainly seen one.''

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<DIV><SPAN class=487453314-26012004><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone seen or 
understand how a storm with an intense but small rain base produces a massive 
moisture updraft (like an anvil but massively oversized) with mammatus clouds 
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<DIV><SPAN class=487453314-26012004><FONT face=Arial size=2>I observed such a 
storm on the 24th and it was clearly pushing 75% of it's moisture into the air 
where the anvil covered a 40km stretch. Under the anvil more clouds were rapidly 
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Hi all,

Well a 3rd day of severe storms around SEQ, the following is today's guster
at Ipswich, for which the BoM had a warning out.  The storm was decaying
quickly by this stage however.  Bundamba scored yet another media report,
this time for hail.

www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/26Jan04/260104a.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/26Jan04/260104b.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/26Jan04/260104c.jpg

Various photogenic opportunities of light shafts, boiling updrafts, etc., in
the setting sun also presented themselves:

www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/26Jan04/260104d.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/26Jan04/260104e.jpg
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Hi all,
      Does anyone know of any software for creating panoramas out of
suitable pics? If so, email me privately (to free up the list) at
pkmatters at bigpond.com.au

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Hi Peter

I use Panorama Factory (http://www.panoramafactory.com/) and have
achieved excellent results. I have referred many others to the program
who are equally satisfied. Here's just a couple of examples for you:

http://www.stormplanet.com/021203pan4.jpg
http://www.stormplanet.com/151003pan6.jpg
http://www.stormplanet.com/181203_pan2.jpg


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Hi all,
      Does anyone know of any software for creating panoramas out of
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From: "Dennis Cottle" <dencot1 at optusnet.com.au>
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If you have a Canon digital camera, there is a utility on its CD called
PhotoStitch. It's also available fro mtheir download section on their site.


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> Hi Peter
>
> I use Panorama Factory (http://www.panoramafactory.com/) and have
> achieved excellent results. I have referred many others to the program
> who are equally satisfied. Here's just a couple of examples for you:
>
> http://www.stormplanet.com/021203pan4.jpg
> http://www.stormplanet.com/151003pan6.jpg
> http://www.stormplanet.com/181203_pan2.jpg
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> Regards
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Subject: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>By the size of the storm over Singleton it looks to be quite massive 
one.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct 
to the north).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=273193309-27012004>Small 
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href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_from_Tamworth_160km_away_small.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_from_Tamworth_160km_away_small.jpg</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT face=Arial size=2>Large 
Resolution:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_from_Tamworth_160km_away.jpg">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_from_Tamworth_160km_away.jpg</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT face=Arial size=2>128km BOM Radar 
8:10pm:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-10PM_128kmRadar.gif">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-10PM_128kmRadar.gif</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT 
face=Arial size=2>256km BOM Radar 8:30pm:</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-30PM_256kmRadar.gif">http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-30PM_256kmRadar.gif</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><SPAN class=273193309-27012004><FONT 
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Subject: aus-wx: Most Intense Storm Since 1989!


G’day All,

After a long quite spell, Devonport received the most intense storm I’ve seen since Feb 8th 1989. There were active cells moving through east of Devonport from around 8pm, then, by mid-night ‘she’ cut loose. For 40 mins there was constant thunder and multiple flashes every couple of seconds until it slowed off. Thunderstorm activity continued to around 4am, so not much sleep was had.

The build up started around mid-day, when large Cb’s started to form in the warm moist NE flow. By 5pm the lovely sunny day turned so black it seemed night had arrived early.

The rain caused flash flooding, and was made worse by the extremely dry ground. I recorded 110mm in my gauge.

It may not be all over yet either, with the low resting over King Island, the NE flow will continue to bring moisture and hopefully feed some more storms.



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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Most Intense Storm Since 1989!


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Andrew , Seems like you were located under the upper cold pool that has been 
moving up from the southwest towards SE Aus. Shuld be interesting to see how 
it goes if it moves further NE towards the mainland.Still thats a lot of 
rain for your area in such a short period.
Gavin SSWW Gilmore Canberra


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>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:55:52 +1100 (EST)
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>G’day All,
>
>After a long quite spell, Devonport received the most intense storm I’ve 
>seen since Feb 8th 1989. There were active cells moving through east of 
>Devonport from around 8pm, then, by mid-night ‘she’ cut loose. For 40 mins 
>there was constant thunder and multiple flashes every couple of seconds 
>until it slowed off. Thunderstorm activity continued to around 4am, so not 
>much sleep was had.
>
>The build up started around mid-day, when large Cb’s started to form in the 
>warm moist NE flow. By 5pm the lovely sunny day turned so black it seemed 
>night had arrived early.
>
>The rain caused flash flooding, and was made worse by the extremely dry 
>ground. I recorded 110mm in my gauge.
>
>It may not be all over yet either, with the low resting over King Island, 
>the NE flow will continue to bring moisture and hopefully feed some more 
>storms.
>
>
>
>Andrew Boskell
>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).


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Simon were where you located in Tamwoth to take this shot? Was it the 
lookout or elsewhere  in town. That was a massive system to be seen at that 
distance!
Gavin
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>Subject: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the 
>north).
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:37:23 +1100
>
>By the size of the storm over Singleton it looks to be quite massive one.
>
>Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).
>
>Small Resolution:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_f
>rom_Tamworth_160km_away_small.jpg
>
>Large Resolution:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_f
>rom_Tamworth_160km_away.jpg
>
>128km BOM Radar 8:10pm:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-
>10PM_128kmRadar.gif
>
>256km BOM Radar 8:30pm:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8-
>30PM_256kmRadar.gif
>
>Simon

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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Most Intense Storm Since 1989!


G'day Gavin,

For some reason the rainfall ob’s on BOM’s web site don’t show what they recorded for Devonport. These ob’s are done at the airport, which is about 8km NE of my place. But there are some good indications of the effects this system is having in the BOM notes from today:

RAINFALL DURING THE 24 HOURS TO 9AM:
Very heavy rainfall in the north, northeast and central Plateau with lighter falls in the remainder. Some flash flooding reported from Devonport and Ulverstone. Thunderstorms yesterday and overnight in the north and northeast. The highest reported fall was 156 millimetres at Western Ck in the Meander catchment, Dunorlan near Elizabeth town recorded 150 mm.

I’m surprised that the storm last night didn’t go ‘severe’, considering the intensity of the lighting activity, it was quite amazing.

Things for the last 12 hours haven’t changed much here, it seems the low NW of Tassie is just staying put for the moment. Not sure if we will get any storms this arvo or tonight at this rate?

Andrew

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 01:23:03 PM, aussie-weather at world.std.com wrote:

> Andrew , Seems like you were located under the upper cold pool that has been 
> moving up from the southwest towards SE Aus. Shuld be interesting to see how 
> it goes if it moves further NE towards the mainland.Still thats a lot of 
> rain for your area in such a short period.
> Gavin SSWW Gilmore Canberra
> 
> 
> >From: "Bostech Studios" <bostech at tasmail.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> >Subject: aus-wx: Most Intense Storm Since 1989!
> >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:55:52 +1100 (EST)
> >
> >G’day All,
> >
> >After a long quite spell, Devonport received the most intense storm I’ve 
> >seen since Feb 8th 1989. There were active cells moving through east of 
> >Devonport from around 8pm, then, by mid-night ‘she’ cut loose. For 40 mins 
> >there was constant thunder and multiple flashes every couple of seconds 
> >until it slowed off. Thunderstorm activity continued to around 4am, so not 
> >much sleep was had.
> >
> >The build up started around mid-day, when large Cb’s started to form in the 
> >warm moist NE flow. By 5pm the lovely sunny day turned so black it seemed 
> >night had arrived early.
> >
> >The rain caused flash flooding, and was made worse by the extremely dry 
> >ground. I recorded 110mm in my gauge.
> >
> >It may not be all over yet either, with the low resting over King Island, 
> >the NE flow will continue to bring moisture and hopefully feed some more 
> >storms.
> >
> >
> >
> >Andrew Boskell
> >
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AI'm surprised that the storm last night didn't go 'severe', considering 
the intensity of the lighting activity, it was quite amazing.

>Things for the last 12 hours haven't changed much here, it seems the low 
>NW of Tassie is just staying put for the moment. Not sure if we will get 
>any storms this arvo or tonight at this rate?

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Just discovered that Devonport exceeded its pervious record for daily rainfall totals for Jan - still not sure what that is yet? Forthside, which is about 5km west of me had 108mm, which is pretty close to my recording of 110mm overnight.

Andrew

On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 04:21:10 PM, aussie-weather at world.std.com wrote:

> G'day Gavin,
> 
> For some reason the rainfall ob’s on BOM’s web site don’t show what they recorded for Devonport. These ob’s are done at the airport, which is about 8km NE of my place. But there are some good indications of the effects this system is having in the BOM notes from today:
> 
> RAINFALL DURING THE 24 HOURS TO 9AM:
> Very heavy rainfall in the north, northeast and central Plateau with lighter falls in the remainder. Some flash flooding reported from Devonport and Ulverstone. Thunderstorms yesterday and overnight in the north and northeast. The highest reported fall was 156 millimetres at Western Ck in the Meander catchment, Dunorlan near Elizabeth town recorded 150 mm.
> 
> I’m surprised that the storm last night didn’t go ‘severe’, considering the intensity of the lighting activity, it was quite amazing.
> 
> Things for the last 12 hours haven’t changed much here, it seems the low NW of Tassie is just staying put for the moment. Not sure if we will get any storms this arvo or tonight at this rate?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On Wednesday, January 28, 2004 at 01:23:03 PM, aussie-weather at world.std.com wrote:
> 
> > Andrew , Seems like you were located under the upper cold pool that has been 
> > moving up from the southwest towards SE Aus. Shuld be interesting to see how 
> > it goes if it moves further NE towards the mainland.Still thats a lot of 
> > rain for your area in such a short period.
> > Gavin SSWW Gilmore Canberra
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "Bostech Studios" <bostech at tasmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
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> > >Subject: aus-wx: Most Intense Storm Since 1989!
> > >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:55:52 +1100 (EST)
> > >
> > >G’day All,
> > >
> > >After a long quite spell, Devonport received the most intense storm I’ve 
> > >seen since Feb 8th 1989. There were active cells moving through east of 
> > >Devonport from around 8pm, then, by mid-night ‘she’ cut loose. For 40 mins 
> > >there was constant thunder and multiple flashes every couple of seconds 
> > >until it slowed off. Thunderstorm activity continued to around 4am, so not 
> > >much sleep was had.
> > >
> > >The build up started around mid-day, when large Cb’s started to form in the 
> > >warm moist NE flow. By 5pm the lovely sunny day turned so black it seemed 
> > >night had arrived early.
> > >
> > >The rain caused flash flooding, and was made worse by the extremely dry 
> > >ground. I recorded 110mm in my gauge.
> > >
> > >It may not be all over yet either, with the low resting over King Island, 
> > >the NE flow will continue to bring moisture and hopefully feed some more 
> > >storms.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Andrew Boskell
> > >
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Hi All,

Fifth day in a row with severe storm warnings out from the BoM for SE
Coastal districts, woohoo!  Recent LI's up around -9C are responsible for
all the activity.  Yesterday's storms produced some very photogenic updrafts
around sundown again, but were not particularly severe.  Today's storms are
looking rather meaner, with hail reports already in.

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Subject: aus-wx: SEQ thunder heard in Hong Kong!


Wow, have you guys got a storm in SEQ at the moment!

I have just been on the phone to my wife at Everton Park and heard some 
loud flangs before she hurriedly hung up.

I also have ABC Coast FM playing here, as I do most days, and heard some 
very loud crashes of thunder drowning out the speech as they were 
interviewing a bloke at Palm Beach.

So the thunder from today's SEQ storm has been clearly heard here in 
Hong Kong!

Phil
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How many discussion group posters does it take to change a lightbulb?
=====================================================================

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
"lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please 
take this discussion to a lightbulb forum

11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where 
to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for 
this technique and what brands are faulty

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including 
all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they 
cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
about light bulbs"

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.

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Subject: aus-wx: Some good sites


Some of these may interest some people. see Mt Dandenong has had 46mm in a
short period of time this arvo.

Some nice pics here as well as a downloadable program.
http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/resource/intro.htm

Sunspots etc
http://www.exploratorium.edu/sunspots/

Sun questions answered
http://www.noacsc.org/mercer/mc/solar/activity5.htm

About sun dials and how to make one
http://cpcug.org/user/jaubert/jsundial.html

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:56:29 +1100
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LOL!

Thats the funniest email Ive read in a while! Thanks for sharing.

Matt Smith

Stargazer wrote:

> How many discussion group posters does it take to change a lightbulb?
> =====================================================================
>
> 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
> changed
>
> 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently
>
> 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
>
> 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb"
>
> 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is
> "lamp"
>
> 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
> bulb" is perfectly correct
>
> 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please
> take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
>
> 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
> bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
>
> 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where
> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for
> this technique and what brands are faulty
>
> 7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
>
> 4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
> corrected URL's
>
> 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
> this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
>
> 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
> all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
>
> 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they
> cannot handle the light bulb controversy
>
> 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
>
> 13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
> about light bulbs"
>
> 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
> start it all over again.
>
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:59:32 +0800
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Some very informative and useful sites there Bussy, I thought you were 
the bus driver, not the teacher!
I shall make use of these when school resumes next week.
Thanks,

Phil
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Subject: aus-wx: Some good sites

> Some of these may interest some people. see Mt Dandenong has had 46mm
> in a
> short period of time this arvo.
> 
> Some nice pics here as well as a downloadable program.
> http://www.sundog.clara.co.uk/resource/intro.htm
> 
> Sunspots etc
> http://www.exploratorium.edu/sunspots/
> 
> Sun questions answered
> http://www.noacsc.org/mercer/mc/solar/activity5.htm
> 
> About sun dials and how to make one
> http://cpcug.org/user/jaubert/jsundial.html
> 
> Bussy (Rutherglen, NE Victoria)
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From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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Hi all,

An incredible 6th day in a row of severe storms in SEQ, and on each day,
significant damage to property, large scale power outages, hail and heavy
rain.  In fact, it is getting hard to find a part of Brisbane now, which
isn't littered with broken bits of tree.  SES has recorded more than 3,000
callouts to damaged homes.

The storms over the last 3 days have tended to occur late in the afternoon
and resulted in great sunset displays.  Here are some snaps from the last 3
days.

Dying storm cell at sundown 27th (Esk region):
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/27Jan04/270104a.jpg

Early afternoon development over the city, 28th:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104a.jpg

Late afternoon development over the border ranges, 28th:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104b.jpg

Not such a severe cell passing through the Western suburbs around 5:00pm,
28th:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104c.jpg

Approaching violent storm Kenmore 5:45pm, 29th (rotating around lowered
updraft):
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104a.jpg

Some resultant damage in Fig Tree pocket Rd. Kenmore (I had driven through
here just as the guster arrived):
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104b.jpg

Sunset pics after the storms, 29th:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104c.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104d.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104e.jpg


And more is forecast for tomorrow!

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From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).


Gavin

>Simon were where you located in Tamwoth to take this shot?

The storm photo was taken from my back yard.  I can see clearly to the south
all around to the north west.

The last time I saw a storm so far away was earlier this month when we were
driving back from coast.  We left Coffs Harbour for Tamworth (250km) and a
large but distant storm over the direction of Tamworth over the great
dividing range.  As the hours went by the clouds got nearer and nearer but
when we reach Tamworth the storm was still another 200km away based on the
BOM Radar readings.

Usually in Tamworth we can see over the ranges and see large storm cells
anywhere from Dubbo to the south west to Portmacquarie to the East and
around to the west near Moree.

Simon

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the north).

Simon were where you located in Tamwoth to take this shot? Was it the
lookout or elsewhere  in town. That was a massive system to be seen at that
distance!
Gavin
Canberra


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>the north).
>Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:37:23 +1100
>
>By the size of the storm over Singleton it looks to be quite massive one.
>
>Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).
>
>Small Resolution:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_
from_Tamworth_160km_away_small.jpg
>
>Large Resolution:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_
from_Tamworth_160km_away.jpg
>
>128km BOM Radar 8:10pm:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8
-10PM_128kmRadar.gif
>
>256km BOM Radar 8:30pm:
>http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8
-30PM_256kmRadar.gif
>
>Simon

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Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:05:48 +0800
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Thanks, John, for sharing yet more magnificent pictures.  Keep 'em 
coming!

Phil
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Subject: RE: aus-wx: And yet more....

> Hi all,
> 
> An incredible 6th day in a row of severe storms in SEQ, and on each
> day,
> significant damage to property, large scale power outages, hail and
> heavy
> rain.  In fact, it is getting hard to find a part of Brisbane now,
> which
> isn't littered with broken bits of tree.  SES has recorded more than
> 3,000
> callouts to damaged homes.
> 
> The storms over the last 3 days have tended to occur late in the
> afternoon
> and resulted in great sunset displays.  Here are some snaps from the
> last 3
> days.
> 
> Dying storm cell at sundown 27th (Esk region):
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/27Jan04/270104a.jpg
> 
> Early afternoon development over the city, 28th:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104a.jpg
> 
> Late afternoon development over the border ranges, 28th:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104b.jpg
> 
> Not such a severe cell passing through the Western suburbs around
> 5:00pm,
> 28th:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104c.jpg
> 
> Approaching violent storm Kenmore 5:45pm, 29th (rotating around lowered
> updraft):
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104a.jpg
> 
> Some resultant damage in Fig Tree pocket Rd. Kenmore (I had driven
> through
> here just as the guster arrived):
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104b.jpg
> 
> Sunset pics after the storms, 29th:
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104c.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104d.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104e.jpg
> 
> 
> And more is forecast for tomorrow!
> 
> John
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Subject: aus-wx: Viruses running amuck (off topic)


Hi there,

I Hope everyone's anti-virus protection is well & truly up to date as there
are a couple nasty viruses on the loose out there atm.

I've lost count on how many copies of "W32.Novarg.A at mm" that have tried
to enter my computer but all have been caught so far by my anti-virus
software.

As far as the other little nasty one out there, "Worm/MyDoom", I haven't as
yet seen a version of that one in my emails.

Must admit that I'm getting used to spotting the suspect emails on my ISP &
deleting them before downloading onto my computer. I'm using the program
"Mailwasher" http://www.mailwasher.net/ as a preview & its proving a very
useful tool. If you haven't tried it before then have a look (free virsion
will only accept one mail account at a time).

Keep sharp everyone...  :)

Regs, Paul.
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Ah well. Everyone's a teacher. My grandpa used to always say that every day
is a school day. Meaning that you'll always learn something.
See that Gray in Tasmania had a 24hr total of 243mm yesterday. That's a
pretty awesome figure.
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> Some very informative and useful sites there Bussy, I thought you were
> the bus driver, not the teacher!
> I shall make use of these when school resumes next week.
> Thanks,
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From: "Brett Vilnis" <brett at weatherdownunder.net>
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Yes this virus is bad on but I'm lucky my ISP has stopped all of them before
they get to me. you can view the stats here
http://www.myisp.net.au/modules.php?name=Virus_Stats&fromts=2003-10-21 .

Brett
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Subject: aus-wx: Viruses running amuck (off topic)


> Hi there,
>
> I Hope everyone's anti-virus protection is well & truly up to date as
there
> are a couple nasty viruses on the loose out there atm.
>
> I've lost count on how many copies of "W32.Novarg.A at mm" that have tried
> to enter my computer but all have been caught so far by my anti-virus
> software.
>
> As far as the other little nasty one out there, "Worm/MyDoom", I haven't
as
> yet seen a version of that one in my emails.
>
> Must admit that I'm getting used to spotting the suspect emails on my ISP
&
> deleting them before downloading onto my computer. I'm using the program
> "Mailwasher" http://www.mailwasher.net/ as a preview & its proving a very
> useful tool. If you haven't tried it before then have a look (free virsion
> will only accept one mail account at a time).
>
> Keep sharp everyone...  :)
>
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
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>
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Subject: Re: aus-wx: Viruses running amuck (off topic)


Actually each of the different Ant-Virus software companies gave this 
virus a different name, so W32.Novarg.A is the same as Worm/Mydoom is 
the same as WORM_MIMAIL.R is the same as WORM_MYDOOM.A and so on.  The 
companies are now changing their descriptions so that they will all call 
it a variant of MYDOOM.
I am checking my e-mail 4 times per day and averaging 100 copies each 
time either of the virus or of notifications from virus programs 
that "your computer appears to be infected" (which it isn't).  What with 
this virus and the ever-present spam, Mailwasher deleted more than 600 
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:21:53 +1030
Subject: aus-wx: Viruses running amuck (off topic)

> Hi there,
> 
> I Hope everyone's anti-virus protection is well & truly up to date as
> there
> are a couple nasty viruses on the loose out there atm.
> 
> I've lost count on how many copies of "W32.Novarg.A at mm" that have
> tried
> to enter my computer but all have been caught so far by my anti-virus
> software.
> 
> As far as the other little nasty one out there, "Worm/MyDoom", I
> haven't as
> yet seen a version of that one in my emails.
> 
> Must admit that I'm getting used to spotting the suspect emails on my
> ISP &
> deleting them before downloading onto my computer. I'm using the
> program
> "Mailwasher" http://www.mailwasher.net/ as a preview & its proving a
> very
> useful tool. If you haven't tried it before then have a look (free
> virsion
> will only accept one mail account at a time).
> 
> Keep sharp everyone...  :)
> 
> Regs, Paul.
> (Stargazer)
> http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/stargazer
> 
> 
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Thanks Simon,
I know that from UNE Armidale we could see Cb tops on the Coastal ranges but 
not as awesome as your photo.We can also see Cb Tops in Canberra 100 km 
eastward (from the top of our hill) when there is coaastal action
While I didn't see it, a lot of people rang the ABC and BoM yesterday 
morning about a big lightning display people  could see early yesterday  
.According to Radar  it was about 180 to 220  km southeast of Canberra!
We just had a brief noisey T'storm but little rain in past half  hour (only 
0.9mm) but its only 13.8 degrees, COLD .!
Seems the eastern suburbs of Melbourne copped it yesterday as did Tassie's 
East Coast.No posts from down there so far though.
Gavin Gilmore Canberra

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>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to 
>the north).
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:38:00 +1100
>
>Gavin
>
> >Simon were where you located in Tamwoth to take this shot?
>
>The storm photo was taken from my back yard.  I can see clearly to the 
>south
>all around to the north west.
>
>The last time I saw a storm so far away was earlier this month when we were
>driving back from coast.  We left Coffs Harbour for Tamworth (250km) and a
>large but distant storm over the direction of Tamworth over the great
>dividing range.  As the hours went by the clouds got nearer and nearer but
>when we reach Tamworth the storm was still another 200km away based on the
>BOM Radar readings.
>
>Usually in Tamworth we can see over the ranges and see large storm cells
>anywhere from Dubbo to the south west to Portmacquarie to the East and
>around to the west near Moree.
>
>Simon
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: RE: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to
>the north).
>
>Simon were where you located in Tamwoth to take this shot? Was it the
>lookout or elsewhere  in town. That was a massive system to be seen at that
>distance!
>Gavin
>Canberra
>
>
> >From: "Simon Fearby" <simon at fearby.com>
> >Reply-To: aussie-weather at world.std.com
> >To: <aussie-weather at world.std.com>
> >Subject: aus-wx: Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to
> >the north).
> >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:37:23 +1100
> >
> >By the size of the storm over Singleton it looks to be quite massive one.
> >
> >Singleton Storm as seen from Tamworth (160km direct to the north).
> >
> >Small Resolution:
> >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_
>from_Tamworth_160km_away_small.jpg
> >
> >Large Resolution:
> >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_Cell_as_Seen_
>from_Tamworth_160km_away.jpg
> >
> >128km BOM Radar 8:10pm:
> >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8
>-10PM_128kmRadar.gif
> >
> >256km BOM Radar 8:30pm:
> >http://simon.fearby.com/weather/2004/Jan/27th/Singleton_Storm_27thJan2004_8
>-30PM_256kmRadar.gif
> >
> >Simon
>
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I see you may have more this PM! What a season!
Gavin Canberra


>From: "John Woodbridge" <jrw at pixelcom.net>
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>Subject: RE: aus-wx: And yet more....
>Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:23:27 +1000
>
>Hi all,
>
>An incredible 6th day in a row of severe storms in SEQ, and on each day,
>significant damage to property, large scale power outages, hail and heavy
>rain.  In fact, it is getting hard to find a part of Brisbane now, which
>isn't littered with broken bits of tree.  SES has recorded more than 3,000
>callouts to damaged homes.
>
>The storms over the last 3 days have tended to occur late in the afternoon
>and resulted in great sunset displays.  Here are some snaps from the last 3
>days.
>
>Dying storm cell at sundown 27th (Esk region):
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/27Jan04/270104a.jpg
>
>Early afternoon development over the city, 28th:
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104a.jpg
>
>Late afternoon development over the border ranges, 28th:
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104b.jpg
>
>Not such a severe cell passing through the Western suburbs around 5:00pm,
>28th:
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/28Jan04/280104c.jpg
>
>Approaching violent storm Kenmore 5:45pm, 29th (rotating around lowered
>updraft):
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104a.jpg
>
>Some resultant damage in Fig Tree pocket Rd. Kenmore (I had driven through
>here just as the guster arrived):
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104b.jpg
>
>Sunset pics after the storms, 29th:
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104c.jpg
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104d.jpg
>www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/29Jan04/290104e.jpg
>
>
>And more is forecast for tomorrow!
>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Heavy rainfall from wrap-around system has brought 80mm to
parts of Geelong overnight (mainly 2am-6am on 30<sup>th</sup>).<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Flash flooding damage occurred but I
think our drainage systems must be better engineered than Melbourne’s. <span
class=GramE>Across the urban area totals varied from 12mm at Avalon to 80 at
Highton, averaging around 50mm.</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoAutoSig><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Had 64mm here including maximum rainfall rate of 153mm/hr at ~ 03:15am

83mm for the month

The cell that was over here (E Bentleigh) at 3am was still over the CBD at 
7:30am

Cheers
Rainlover


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>Hi all -
>Heavy rainfall from wrap-around system has brought 80mm to parts of
>Geelong overnight (mainly 2am-6am on 30th).  Flash flooding damage
>occurred but I think our drainage systems must be better engineered than
>Melbourne’s. Across the urban area totals varied from 12mm at Avalon to
>80 at Highton, averaging around 50mm.
>By the way, have I missed something or what has happened to Weatherzone?
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Hi All,

Severe Stormfest '04 into the 7th day...

Todays action:

Mammatus ahead of the storm:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104a.jpg

And the beast, this is on the NW inflow side of an Eastwood moving cell:
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104b.jpg
www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104c.jpg


Lots of damage again, and a Tornado reported about 30 km south of here with
this storm.

Enjoy...
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Seeing the storms in Victoria and the damage inflicted there and I have 
great sympathy for all involved. Here in S.Aust we have had strong SE/Sw 
winds I believe associated with this system all the past week. We badly 
need rain though. according to BoM Adelaide, we have had the coolest 
January and one of the driest January's for 50 + years. My station has 
gauged 9.4 mm rain this month (6th Inst ) 4.2 mm the wettest day 
recorded at Kurralta Park.

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Some nice storms around today.. Awesome Backshearing monster off the coast!!

Here are some pics :)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/updraft1.jpg (updraft of
first cell, was under rfb area for a while)
http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/updraft2.jpg (updraft
cauliflower top)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/eastupdraft.jpg (as the storm
progressed to the coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/southcell2.jpg (Large cell on
the south coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/scsouth.jpg (Possible
Supercell to the south, was moving north for a while)
http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/scsouth2.jpg (another photo
of it)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/coastupdraft.jpg (very
powerful updraft of cell on the coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/backshearsc.jpg (supercell
off the coast with verylarge backshear that lasted about 5? hours or so)

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Spend the afternoon in glorious weather talk, barbequed sausages and
football......at the next Victorian ASWA meeting with a barbeque to be
held at:

** Location: Bellbird Picnic area - off Yarra Boulevard, Kew (see map -
http://www.stormchasers.au.com/barbeque.htm look for the red cross on
the map south of the freeway near the river)

** Time: Saturday 7th February starting at 12pm with cricket / frisbee /
football til ~4pm

** Menu: a sumptuous catered barbeque cooked by 'expert barbeque chefs'

** Attendees: members, friends, wives, kids, girlfriends, next door
neighbour's cat or dog etc etc

Enjoy this introduction to 2004 with no doubt lots of reminiscing about
2003!!

** Please note - there may not be formal presentations at this meeting,
but if we can find a powerpoint on a gumtree, well......

Please RSVP aswa_victoria at iprimus.com.au by Thursday 5th February, 2004

Best regards,

Clyve Herbert & Andrew McDonald
ASWA Victoria - State reps

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Finally seen a return of the SE steering winds, Ive not seen the sounding as 
of yet, but Im guessing about only 10 - 15 knots  at  700.. Not long till we 
get back to our 30 - 40 knot LLJ situation.. Then we may see some decent 
action, the energy is there (at least -5/-6 lis) and some nice dry slots 
forming..

Of late, the cells have been suicidal pulse storms, stagnant, and ill 
featured (unlike the wall cloud from a few weeks ago).. The city hasnt seen 
a storm in quite a while... Usually by this time we'd have seen at least 9 
or 10 severe storms for the season, but so far, in the city ZERO!  (a few 
STW's but nothing to fruition)

The upper levels show a strong flow (SE around 40-50knots) obviously spurred 
by the TC development to the West....

May we hope for some decent cells.. the atmosphere has been building here 
for a long few weeks, and  conditions are nothing less than oppressive... Im 
going with some decent activity over the weekend and possibly severe towards 
monday/tuesday as the SE'ers  at  700 increase to above 25-35 knots...  This 
time a few years back saw gusts over 128km/hr in the city from squalls, 
widespread blackouts and damage..

We shall sit back and wait...

Jacob.

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Phil,

Nice shots. I got some similar pics earlier in the day from Beacon Hill,
although a much smaller storm.

See http://www.konnecke.com/weather.html

From where I am it looked like this shot ...

http://www.konnecke.com/gallery/photoblog/wea%20-%20200301301340%20002.jpg

... was part of the storm in the Cronulla area mentioned on the radio.

Peter


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Some nice storms around today.. Awesome Backshearing monster off the coast!!

Here are some pics :)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/updraft1.jpg (updraft of
first cell, was under rfb area for a while)
http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/updraft2.jpg (updraft
cauliflower top)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/eastupdraft.jpg (as the storm
progressed to the coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/southcell2.jpg (Large cell on
the south coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/scsouth.jpg (Possible
Supercell to the south, was moving north for a while)
http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/scsouth2.jpg (another photo
of it)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/coastupdraft.jpg (very
powerful updraft of cell on the coast)

http://members.datafast.net.au/~pbones/jan3004/backshearsc.jpg (supercell
off the coast with verylarge backshear that lasted about 5? hours or so)

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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:02:40 +1000
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Richard,
While it seems Adelaide's mean max temp will end up about 
26.0C (average of 28.8C), it is only the coldest January since 
1992 when the mean max was 25.1C. (it would still rank up 
there as ONE of the coldest for the last 50 yrs though)
Probably a more interesting stat is that we have only had 3 
days over 30C!
As for rainfall, I'm not sure where it ranks with the driest 
January's but I doubt it has really been that dry compared to 
some other recent dry years. Adelaide has had 9.8mm, (ave. 
20mm) while I would suggest there has been many years 
where we have struggled for 5mm.
The BOM monthly climate summary should be out early next 
week with more detailed info I'd imagine.

Cheers,
Tim Eckert

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>Hi everyone
>
>Seeing the storms in Victoria and the damage inflicted there 
and I have 
>great sympathy for all involved. Here in S.Aust we have had 
strong SE/Sw 
>winds I believe associated with this system all the past week. 
We badly 
>need rain though. according to BoM Adelaide, we have had the 
coolest 
>January and one of the driest January's for 50 + years. My 
station has 
>gauged 9.4 mm rain this month (6th Inst ) 4.2 mm the wettest 
day 
>recorded at Kurralta Park.
>
>Richard
>
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At 11:14 PM 30/01/2004 +1100, you wrote:

>Spend the afternoon in glorious weather talk, barbequed sausages and
>football......at the next Victorian ASWA meeting with a barbeque to be
>held at:
>
>** Location: Bellbird Picnic area - off Yarra Boulevard, Kew (see map -
>http://www.stormchasers.au.com/barbeque.htm

I can make it, but only until 2:30 at the very latest, as we have to pick 
up friends from the airport on a 3:05 flight.

As for presentations, well, I can do PC based presentations, have enough 
battery capacity to last a day or two! :-)

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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Here is a selection of images I have taken during the past two days down here</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> in Melbourne</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">!</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">As all would know, we have had our fair share of severe weather to keep us busy here too</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> with this upper low</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">! Soon</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> these images</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> plus video</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> will be included in a report for the period, along with video etc.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> </SPAN></P>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">29/1/04 Taken from indoors looking over A</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">l</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">bert Park Lake to the south:</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_4.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_4.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_3.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_3.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_2.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_2.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">29/1/04</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Y</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">arra</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> Glen being engulfed by approaching rain</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">, late afternoon. Quite frequent lightning accompanied this and subsequent cells that moved over the area.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> </SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_1.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/290104_1.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">30/1/04 From Woori Yallock</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_3.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_3.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">30/1/04</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Some nice updrafts taken looking east from Wandin:</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_4.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_4.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_5.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_5.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">30/1/04 Sunset</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">illuminates</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> a cell last night over Kilmore</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_1.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_1.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A HREF="http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_2.jpg"><SPAN LANG="en-au"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://www.stormplanet.com/300104_2.jpg</FONT></U></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></A><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>
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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">NB:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Also note that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">I drove to the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> Hunter Valley</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> over the long weekend and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"></FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">will have a report for</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">this</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New"> coming out soon.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><A NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">David Simpson</FONT></SPAN></A></P>

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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-au"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Yarra Valley, Vic.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-au"></SPAN></P>

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Hi John,

Yes this system I believe is the most active that I have seen since
November 1988 and perhaps this system surpasses it. There are similarities
too in the behaviour. Some incredible storms observed right around eastern
NSW and SE Qld. Well done.

Sorry I have not had time to post stills but obviously storm chasing is
the reason.

Regards,
Jimmy Deguara

> Hi All,
>
> Severe Stormfest '04 into the 7th day...
>
> Todays action:
>
> Mammatus ahead of the storm:
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>
> And the beast, this is on the NW inflow side of an Eastwood moving
> cell: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104b.jpg
> www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104c.jpg
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> Lots of damage again, and a Tornado reported about 30 km south of here
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Yes and what a cell that ripped through Brisbane's eastern suburbs bringing
down widespread trees, branches and damage to homes. Was blacked out until
around 4am this morning, with a lot of areas around Wynnum still blacked out
and reports Kenmore still blacked out. Certainly was a beast this cell with
major greenage!
http://astrogen.org.co.nr/30jan04/30jan04gustwz.jpg
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> Hi John,
>
> Yes this system I believe is the most active that I have seen since
> November 1988 and perhaps this system surpasses it. There are similarities
> too in the behaviour. Some incredible storms observed right around eastern
> NSW and SE Qld. Well done.
>
> Sorry I have not had time to post stills but obviously storm chasing is
> the reason.
>
> Regards,
> Jimmy Deguara
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Severe Stormfest '04 into the 7th day...
> >
> > Todays action:
> >
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> > www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104a.jpg
> >
> > And the beast, this is on the NW inflow side of an Eastwood moving
> > cell: www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104b.jpg
> > www.pixelcom.net/jrw/stormpic/30Jan04/300104c.jpg
> >
> >
> > Lots of damage again, and a Tornado reported about 30 km south of here
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> >
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Hi Weatherians!

Newly added stuff to sydneystormchasers.com -- 

Report for January 21st

http://www.sydneystormchasers.com/2004/jan21.htm

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http://www.sydneystormchasers.com

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According to the news on ABC Coast FM, a tree fell on five people in St 
Lucia and two Korean children are still in hospital.  In Newmarket, a 
three-story block of flats lost its roof which then damaged several 
other properties and blocked two nearby streets.  At one stage 90,000 
people had lost power.  A bloke near Gympie rang in and reported 
hailstones the size of tennis balls had fallen at a little place East of 
Gympie.
It was actually quite interesting to follow the storms on Coast FM as 
they kept crossing to interviews with people affected.

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> Hi haven't posted here for a while.
> 
> Yesterday between approx 4pm to 5:30 pm (earlier for people who live
> further west) a line of storms passed through Brisbane and South East
> Queensland causing significant damage.
> 
> Our SES unit, responsible for the Pine Rivers Shire is responding to
> approximately 50 jobs as a result of last nights storm (these are
> concentrated in a few suburbs in the Southern end of the shire (the
> hills area for those who know it)- a significant number of these being
> trees on roofs.
> 
> I have also heard reports of significant damage in some areas of
> Brisbane including the St Lucia area and the Newmarket area (not sure
> of specifics).
> 
> A big week for storms in South East Queensland !
> 
> Craig
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Awesome stuff Dann and the SSC crew, love the colours with the 21st storms!

Simon
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Hello Everyone

Have just returned from three weeks away. In the last week we traveled
from Townsville to Byron Bay back to Brisbane and home via Winton
because of flooding in Coopers Creek and the Dimantina River (about
4000km in six days). 
We have been treated to Storms every day. The two most memorable, a
storm around 7pm in Brisbane last Sunday as we crossed the Gateway
bridge and one on the last leg about 80km south of Boulia on Thursday at
about 6pm.
This second storm was very interesting as it was moving in a NW
direction with a large inflow band entering the storm in a anti
clockwise direction (My question, is that normal behavior for a storm?).
This storm had gale force winds gusting out the bottom and torrential
rain reducing visibility to less than 30m, this made driving very
interesting on the dirt road. With 4WD keeping us in a straight line we
eventually drove through the storm 20km further south. The road by this
time was almost impassable especially going around corners. The vehicle
wanted to slide sideways down the slope to the apex of the corner and if
we had we would have bogged. After negotiating a particularly bad corner
we came across two fuel semi trailers in the next straight, one who had
slipped to the edge of the road and bogged. His mate who had to stop
behind also bogged in the middle of the road when he tried move after
stopping. They had only 5km to go to drop their load of fuel at Marion
Station but they had to wait 20hours before they could move. After a
short stop to talk about the weather we skated our way past the trucks
and then the driving became a lot easier. The truck wheels had moved the
slop off the top of the road and I could drive in the wheel tracks on a
reasonable hard base. In another 10km we where happily raising dust as
we watched a fantastic sunset.

All roads to Bedourie are now close due to flooding of the Georgina at
Marion Station to the north and King Creek near Cluny Station to the
south.
There is talk of a airlift of provisions next week if they cannot get
provisions in by boat.
I do not know how long the roads will be closed.

Chas
Bedourie Qld


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Hi All,

Fifth day in a row with severe storm warnings out from the BoM for SE
Coastal districts, woohoo!  Recent LI's up around -9C are responsible
for
all the activity.  Yesterday's storms produced some very photogenic
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are
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in total , 121,000 thousand people lost power
some 40,000 are still with out power
crews from nsw are now helping brisbane energex crews to restore power
stephen

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> According to the news on ABC Coast FM, a tree fell on five people in St
> Lucia and two Korean children are still in hospital.  In Newmarket, a
> three-story block of flats lost its roof which then damaged several
> other properties and blocked two nearby streets.  At one stage 90,000
> people had lost power.  A bloke near Gympie rang in and reported
> hailstones the size of tennis balls had fallen at a little place East of
> Gympie.
> It was actually quite interesting to follow the storms on Coast FM as
> they kept crossing to interviews with people affected.
>
> Phil
> <><
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> Subject: aus-wx: Damaging SE Qld storms
>
> > Hi haven't posted here for a while.
> >
> > Yesterday between approx 4pm to 5:30 pm (earlier for people who live
> > further west) a line of storms passed through Brisbane and South East
> > Queensland causing significant damage.
> >
> > Our SES unit, responsible for the Pine Rivers Shire is responding to
> > approximately 50 jobs as a result of last nights storm (these are
> > concentrated in a few suburbs in the Southern end of the shire (the
> > hills area for those who know it)- a significant number of these being
> > trees on roofs.
> >
> > I have also heard reports of significant damage in some areas of
> > Brisbane including the St Lucia area and the Newmarket area (not sure
> > of specifics).
> >
> > A big week for storms in South East Queensland !
> >
> > Craig
> >
>
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